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ScoreKeeper Lauds FSM's New 14 Disc Box Set of Ron Jones' Music From STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION!!
Greetings! ScoreKeeper here toasting the soundtrack savants over at Film Score Monthly for their latest and greatest gluttonous collection of fabulous film music...or in this case, television music.
Scores...The final frontier. If you have even the slightest interest in film or television scores then you are certainly aware of the Brobdingnagian influx of music that is being unleashed on a near daily basis. All the major labels continue their battle for our hard-earned dollars and we're left reaping the rewards. There are so many highly-revered titles coming out, my due diligence struggles to keep up with them all.
The next bombshell is the fifth box set release by Film Score Monthly. I'm a huge fan of their box sets and have the previous four in my personal collection (FSM Box-001 "Elmer Bernstein's Film Music Collection," FSM Box-002 "Superman: The Music," FSM Box-003 "MGM Soundtrack Treasury," FSM Box-004 "Miklós Rózsa Treasury"). Today, FSM announced that they are releasing an unprecedented 14 disc box set including the complete scores for forty, that's right...forty episodes of STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION (1987-1999) all composed by Ron Jones!
This limited edition box set (5000 copies) features sixteen hours of complete scores from forty episodes aired during the first four seasons of STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION including bonus tracks from Jones' "The Best of Both Worlds" and two computer games, "Starfleet Academy" (1997) and "Starfleet Command (1999). The audio samples sound exquisite as is usually the case with Film Score Monthly releases.
This is truly a labor of love and a life-long wish fulfilled for album producer and Film Score Monthly founder Lukas Kendall.
The online liner notes are available HERE.
For more information including a list of episodes contained on the disc, audio samples from selected tracks, and pre-ordering information visit HERE.
Autographed copies were available to the first 100 buyers but those have quickly been snatched up. If you would still like to get an autographed copy of the set for yourself, Ron Jones will be at Dark Delicacies on September 19th at 2:00PM to signs copies of this new box set. Pre-orders for autographed copoies are also being taken for those living outside of the Los Angeles area. Check out the web site for Dark Delicacies for more information.
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14 Discs? Of What?
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Dah dah dah daaahh - dah dah dah dahhhh - DAH DAH DAH DAAAAAH.
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"Duh dun dah!"
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It sounds like humming. Low budget, synthesizer music. Yuck.
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Aug. 31, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST
14 discs of essentially the same thing?
by Planty_McPlant_Plants_His_Plant_At_AICN
The music used for each TNG episode sounded virtually identical to me. I pity the fool who will listen to this. I can't believe anyone sane can sit through them all.
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Aug. 31, 2010, 8:15 p.m. CST
Data's Flinch-of-Ah!Regarding Humanities'Unquantifiable Nature
by Flummage
Track 32, Disk 4
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You idiots dismissing Jones because Trek music all sounds alike have no idea what you're doing. He was the guy fighting to have more adventurous music in Star Trek. He scored the Borg two parter, possibly the only episodes people remember the music from (and until now one of the only Soundtrack albums sold for Next Generation). What music was worth remembering from ST:TNG was made by him. Maybe you lot remember him better for scoring Ducktales, but I guarantee you that it's big a news (and a big FUCK YOU to Rick Berman) that he's getting this treatment.
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I mean, it's a TV show. The music in TV shows really isn't that varied.
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His music was full of synth flutes and windchimes and crap. The more generic music in the later, better episodes of ST:TNG was more appropriate, and is more iconic.
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right on the money. ST:TNG lost some great talent over the years that negatively impacted the music, visual effects and later cinematography. Ron Jones' ST:TNG music was fun, energetic and creative. After season four his absence was clearly heard for the worse. Compare his Best of Both Worlds soundtrack to Dennis McCarthy's ST:DS9 series opener Wolf 359 music. No comparison. Imagine if Jones would have been the composer instead? Not knocking McCarthy so much as I am Rick Berman. Still, after Jones was gone series Trek music became extremely constipated. Glad to see his contribution is finally being acknowledged. Suck it, Berman.
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i liked the show but not nearly enough for something like this. now if they ever do this for X-Files, Buffy and/or Angel, Alias or Lost then i'd definately grab it. but i'm sure the trekkies who do get a hold will be quite pleased. its rare enough to get ONE full episode but 40?
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Whew! I feared that he might have suffered a blown cocyx bone or something.
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Is Haven in there?
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Aug. 31, 2010, 9:51 p.m. CST
Now why couldn't they have done a set like this for Batman: TAS?
by Nasty In The Pasty
Only two CDs' worth of music was released, going on two YEARS ago, and not a peep of a "volume two" release since. :(
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Hack.
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Aug. 31, 2010, 9:56 p.m. CST
This show had music?
by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World
I thought it was just creepy dead silence over those weird tan colored sets, seen through that shitty vhs picture quality, except for those little musical bits that play real for two seconds to signal it's about to cut to commercial. This show is just damn unsettling to watch for me for some reason.
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So that's around 160 music cues called "Music for Stern Face Before Commercial."
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Still holding out for that "Duck Tales" soundtrack CD.
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Tan seats! Tan Uniforms. TAN CAPATAINS!!! WOOO!!
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(and if I recall, it does not) this effort is AWESOME AND I'm buying it just to support the idea of something like this being DONE. This is GREAT!!
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Of just the warp core noise. That low throbbing noise would be great for sleeping!
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sorry.
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The FSM monthly Star Trek set is a labor of love. Lukas Kendall has released some amazing scores recently, including Black Sunday and Star Trek III. And for those who aren't aware, John Barry's score for The Deep was released by Intrada on Monday as a limited edition and they're apparently going fast.
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...next to those 'Teach Yourself Klingon' CDs you've never played.
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I had the book. :(
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Harry Palmerlime: So that's around 160 music cues called "Music for Stern Face Before Commercial." - I laughed my ass off when I read that!
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Just ordered it.
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...recorded using the best medium possible, then transfered onto audio cassette? Think about it...? ;)
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... the opening theme music that Jerry Goldsmith composed for STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE as the theme and leitmotif for the TV show STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION. Really good idea. Goldsmith was always very good for Star trek, a franchise that was very close to his heart. He had even been inicially chosen to compose for the TOS, but he had a busy schedule and couldn't accept the job, and his friend and collaborator Alexander Courage got the gig instead.
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La La Land Records have (had?) a great two CD set of music from Batman TAS, and there is the soundtrack to Mask of the Phantasam, too. Both reside on my CD shelf and in my Zune. Recommended!
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1. The reason Sulu is on the final disc is that disc holds the soundtracks for two computer games that Jones scored: Starfleet Academy and Starfleet Command. 2. Warners is evidently the one holding up a volume two of Batman The Animated Series music. 3. An X-Files four disc set is being worked on as we speak - all music from throughout the run of the show - current estimates place it's release at later this fall/early this winter.
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PLEASE!!! PLEASE!!! Especially since I haven't won a single one of your damned contests and this is one I would very much like to win!
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and maybe one disc of interesting variations. STTNG had some of the dreariest, lazy orchestrations, with repetitive themes and lacklustre pacing.
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You will NEVER HAVE SEX!
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Dun-dun-dun! DUN-DUN-DUN!
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They don't need to remaster every single episode, maybe pick the best 20 or so, re-edit, re-grade, totally new CGI effects shots, new sound mix, the works. DO IT! DO IT NOW!!!
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...I'm hungry.
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they filmed it on video so they would hafta transfer it and digitize it and then remaster...<P>if georgie boy cant afford it, these guys cant..
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...quite possibly the last time this year. Next week is supposed to be nice and cool.
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Not my usual Friday visit, they are going camping this weekend. Although I always want them to have fun, I wish I had the resources to take them places. They tell me it's ok and all, and I believe them, but they are still kids and I know they wish we could do more things as well.<P>Ahhhhh I'll make it up to them someday...I hope.<P>Anyways, gonna try to watch Dragonheart tonight.
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watch out for Leeches in 3D!
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It was just EDITED on video tape. Also the effects were rendered at 480i. Same with Voyager and DS9. I'm assuming the effects could be rendered at 1080p, but I don't know that for sure. They may have to be redone as they were in TOS, which would be fine with me.</p><p>Apparently there was a test of 2 episodes recreated in this way to see how much it would cost, but I don't know what the verdict was.</p><p>I am Quite sure Paramount will eventually do this for all 3 shows edited on tape, but it may be a couple of more years to get better penetration of Blu-ray in homes. They're not going to pass up that cash cow even if it costs them up front. It's not just about Blu-ray, they need them for rebroadcast in HD as well.
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The animated series (essentially season 4 of TOS), followed by Enterprise. Again, I'm totally fine with this. Althoguh I like TNG, it just rings a little hollow to me compared to some of the other shows. and I really hate Wesley Crusher. I had pretty much given up on Voyager midway through season 2 though.
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so what are you saying?<P>enterprise is better than TNG?<P>TNG ruled and if not for it, TREK wouldve died a sloggy death decades ago.
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never got into it. <P> I watched a few episodes of DS:9; never got into it. <P> I watched some of ST: Voyager and liked it. <P> And I've heard online that Voyager was the weakest series. Go figure.
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APOCALYPSE NOW <p>THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS <p>ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES <p>See writeups at The Shelter.
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Well, don't get me started on that one. It had some good episodes, but for me, overall, it was.....meh at best. I absolutely HATED Wesley Crusher, since when does Roddenberry need to pander to kids? If he absolutely had to do that, at least make it an APPEALING character. Wesley was not appealing in any way. Arrogant whiny little fuck. Sure he was smart, but so fucking what.<P>Anyways, I gotta a bit off there. I feel that over the course of...what was it...7 seasons? They should have had many more top quality stories and for me they were just average at best, with the occasional stand out. Frakes is another one, he is a terrible actor. His character was also lame. Passed up promotion after promotion, holding out for the Enterprise. Lame. He ends the show 7 years later in the exact same place he started.<P>I could go on and on, but I can't lol. Suffice to say, TNG in the end is just a big disappointment for me. Could have been great, but winds up being just ok.
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Season 3 was--as I recall--the strongest.<BR><BR>DS9 came out at a bad time for me.<BR><BR>Voyager didn't do it for me.<BR><BR>In fact, other than TOS, the only sci-fi/space-based type series that has really thrilled me has been BSG--hands down.
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but he did direct one of the better ST movies. Even Asi couldn't argue with that.
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Francis Ford Coppola's film "Apocalypse Now" was inspired by Heart of Darkness, a novel by Joseph Conrad about a European named Kurtz who penetrated to the farthest reaches of the Congo and established himself like a god. A boat sets out to find him, and on the journey the narrator gradually loses confidence in orderly civilization; he is oppressed by the great weight of the jungle all around him, a pitiless Darwinian testing ground in which each living thing tries every day not to be eaten.<p> What is found at the end of the journey is not Kurtz so much as what Kurtz found: that all of our days and ways are a fragile structure perched uneasily atop the hungry jaws of nature that will thoughtlessly devour us. A happy life is a daily reprieve from this knowledge.<p>A week ago I was in Calcutta, where I saw mile upon square mile of squatter camps in which hundreds of thousands live generation after generation in leaky huts of plastic, cardboard and scrap metal, in poverty so absolute it is impossible to see any hope of escape. I do not mean to equate the misery of those hopeless people with a movie; that would be indecent. But I was deeply shaken by what I saw, and realized how precious and precarious is a happy life. And in such a mood I watched "Apocalypse Now" and came to the scene where Col. Kurtz (Marlon Brando) tells Capt. Willard (Martin Sheen) about "the horror."<p> Kurtz is a decorated hero, one of the best soldiers in the Army, who has created a jungle sanctuary upriver inside enemy territory, and rules Montagnard tribesmen as his private army. He tells Willard about a day when his Special Forces men inoculated the children of a village against polio: "This old man came running after us and he was crying, he couldn't see. We went back there, and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile, a pile of little arms. . . ."<p>What Kurtz learned is that the Viet Cong were willing to go to greater lengths to win: "Then I realized they were stronger than we. They have the strength, the strength to do that. If I had 10 divisions of those men, then our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling, without passion, without judgment." This is the "horror" that Kurtz has found, and it threatens to envelop Willard, too.<p> The whole movie is a journey toward Willard's understanding of how Kurtz, one of the Army's best soldiers, penetrated the reality of war to such a depth that he could not look any longer without madness and despair.<p> The film has one of the most haunting endings in cinema, a poetic evocation of what Kurtz has discovered, and what we hope not to discover for ourselves. The river journey creates enormous anticipation about Kurtz, and Brando fulfills it. When the film was released in 1979, his casting was criticized and his enormous paycheck of $1 million was much discussed, but it's clear he was the correct choice, not only because of his stature as an icon, but because of his voice, which enters the film from darkness or half-light, repeating the words of T.S. Eliot's despairing "The Hollow Men." That voice sets the final tone of the film.<p> Another crucial element in the ending is the photojournalist (Dennis Hopper) who has somehow found Kurtz's camp and stayed there, stoned, as a witness. He blathers to Willard that Kurtz is "a poet-warrior in the classic sense" and "we're all his children." In the photographer's spaced-out ravings we hear disconnected snatches of the poetry he must have heard Kurtz reciting: If you can keep your head when all about you . . . I should have been a pair of ragged claws, scuttling across the floor of a silent sea. . . ." The photographer is the guide, the clown, the fool, providing the balance between Willard and Kurtz.<p> Why has "Apocalypse Now" been so long bedeviled by rumors that Coppola was not happy with this ending? At the film's premiere at Cannes, I saw the confusion begin. Coppola originally intended to show the movie as a 70mm roadshow with no credits (they would be printed in a booklet). But the 35mm release would need end titles. After he was finished filming on the huge set of the Kurtz compound, Coppola was required by the Philippine government to destroy it, and he photographed it being blown up. He decided to use this footage over his closing 35mm credits, even though (this is crucial) he did not intend the destruction of the compound as an alternative "ending" to the film. Alas, confusion about the endings spread from Cannes into movie folklore, and most people thought that by "ending" he meant all of the material involving Kurtz. In the 20th anniversary DVD release, Coppola patiently explains all of this once again.<p> In any event, seen again now at a distance of 20 years, "Apocalypse Now" is more clearly than ever one of the key films of the century. Most films are lucky to contain a single great sequence. "Apocalypse Now" strings together one after another, with the river journey as the connecting link. The best is the helicopter attack on a Vietnam village, led by Col. Kilgore (Robert Duvall), whose choppers use loudspeakers at top volume to play Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries" as they swoop down on a yard full of schoolchildren. Duvall won an Oscar nomination for his performance and its unforgettable line, "I love the smell of napalm in the morning." His emptiness is frightening: A surfing fanatic, he agrees to the attack only to liberate a beach said to offer great waves ("Charlie don't surf").<p> There is also the sequence where the patrol boat stops a small fishing boat with a family on board. A little girl makes a sudden dash, and the jumpy machine-gunner (a young Laurence Fishburne) opens fire, wiping out the entire family. It turns out the girl was running for her puppy. The mother is not quite dead. The boat chief (Albert Hall) wants to take her for medical treatment. Willard puts a bullet into her; nothing can delay his mission. He and "Chief" are the only two seasoned military men on the boat, trying to do things by the book; later, in a scene with peculiar power, the chief is astonished to be killed by a spear.<p> For me the most remarkable visuals in the film occur when Chef (Fredric Forrest), one of Willard's crew members, insists on venturing into the forest in search of mangos. Willard can't stop him, so he joins him. The great cinematographer Vittorio Storaro shows them as little human specks at the foot of towering trees, and this is a Joseph Conrad moment, showing how nature dwarfs us.<p> The rock 'n' roll soundtrack opens and closes with "The End" by the Doors, and includes disc jockeys on transistor radios ("Good morning, Vietnam!"). The music underlines surrealistic moments, as when Lance (Sam Bottoms), one of Willard's crew, water-skis behind the boat. It also shows how the soldiers try to use the music of home, and booze and drugs, to ease their loneliness and apprehension.<p> Other important films such as "Platoon," "The Deer Hunter," "Full Metal Jacket" and "Casualties of War" take their own approaches to Vietnam. Once at the Hawaii Film Festival I saw five North Vietnamese films about the war. (They never mentioned "America," only "the enemy," and one director told me, "It is all the same--we have been invaded by China, France, the U.S. . . .") But "Apocalypse Now" is the best Vietnam film, one of the greatest of all films, because it pushes beyond the others, into the dark places of the soul. It is not about war so much as about how war reveals truths we would be happy never to discover.<p> In a way I cannot quite explain, my thoughts since Calcutta prepared me to understand the horror that Kurtz found. If we are lucky, we spend our lives in a fool's paradise, never knowing how close we skirt the abyss. What drives Kurtz mad is his discovery of this.<p> Note: In my original review of "Apocalypse Now" I quoted the French director Francois Truffaut: "I demand that a film express either the joy of making cinema or the agony of making cinema. I am not at all interested in anything in between." Coppola's joy and agony are revealed in "Hearts of Darkness," a 1991 documentary by Fax Bahr and George Hickenlooper about the making of "Apocalypse Now," with personal footage and journal entries by Coppola's wife, Eleanor, who made secret recordings of Coppola expressing his doubts and discouragement as the project threatened to swamp him. <p>http://tinyurl.com/33vyt5e
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Sept. 1, 2010, 1:47 p.m. CST
Desson Howe's review of THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS
by ColonelFatheart
If Christmas is in jeopardy, if Santa Claus is being forcibly prevented from his annual duties, you can be sure the kids will pay attention. And since Tim Burton's animated fantasy, "The Nightmare Before Christmas," is such a state-of-the-art wonder show, you can be sure the adults will be engaged too.<p> This brilliant combination of stop-motion animation, three-dimensional sets and superbly imaginative graphics, brings animation to new peaks. Burton, whose inventive, delightfully haunted mind put so much zest into "Pee-wee's Big Adventure," "Beetlejuice," "Batman" and "Edward Scissorhands," has done it again.<p> Here's the story: Jack Skellington, Halloweentown's Pumpkin King, is bored with his annual duties -- arranging the usual scares and surprises for Halloween. When he chances upon Christmastown, a far cry from his own world, Jack decides he can run this tinselly convention himself. After boning up on things Christmas (he even tries to study the holiday in algebraic terms), Jack dons a white beard and red coat, harnesses a team of ghostly reindeer and heads for the rooftops of the world. While Jack does the yuletide rounds, his pumpkin townsfolk hold the real (and thoroughly disconsolate) Santa prisoner.<p> Concerned parents can be assured that, ultimately, things will be put right. Jack will realize who really ought to be stuffing himself down these chimneys, and that you're supposed to give presents that charm -- not petrify -- the children. Speaking of scaring kids, it's hard to assess how the very young will receive this. To this grown-up reviewer, Jack and his Halloweentown collection of strange friends are oddly charming, from the (literally) two-faced mayor to the trick or treat trio called Lock, Shock and Barrel. And when he delivers icky presents to children (such as a severed head, or a striped snake that swallows Christmas trees), Jack (with whom the viewer identifies) is genuinely unaware of his transgressions. If Jack's a bad skeleton, he's an innocently bad skeleton.<p> The best thing about "Nightmare," obviously, is its visual world and -- behind that -- 10 great songs composed by Danny Elfman (who collaborated with Burton for "Batman" and also wrote the theme tune for "The Simpsons"). Burton, a graduate of the Disney factory (he worked on "The Black Cauldron," among many films, and made a memorable short called "Frankenweenie"), fills the movie with unforgettable compositions: Jack's poetic posings against the moon, for one thing, are aesthetically stunning.<p> Burton also creates Grimmly personable characters. Jack is a mischievous, skeletal Beau Brummell in his pin-striped, spider-webbed suit. His faithful dog Zero is actually the ghost of a dog with a glowing, jack-o'-lantern nose. Jack's love interest, Sally, is a rag doll who can disengage her body parts at will by picking the thread that holds her together.<p> With Burton, there's a sense of a bad-boy genius at work, as if Oscar Wilde had been raised on E.T.A Hoffmann, the Brothers Grimm and the expressionistic German films of the prewar period such as "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari." He never raises his work above the heads of children -- which is true of all his work. He pulls adult minds down to the surreal darkness of childish imagination -- where the real nightmares are. But through Burton's eyes, these dark dreamscapes aren't bad places at all. In fact, they're quite wonderful. <p>http://tinyurl.com/2agw2ss
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other than the first two seasons where they thrust him in the spotlight..he was really part of the ensemble..and he was gone by the fourth season..and was part of one of the best shows..THE FIRST DUTY.
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Sept. 1, 2010, 1:52 p.m. CST
Variety review of ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES
by ColonelFatheart
Escape from the Planet of the Apes is an excellent film, almost as good as the original Planet of the Apes. Arthur Jacobs' production is marked by an outstanding script, using some of the original Pierre Boulle novel characters; excellent direction by Don Taylor; and superior performances from a cast headed by encoring Roddy McDowall and Kim Hunter.<p> In the previous film one will recall that the world seemed to be ending in nuclear holocaust. Something that trivial never stopped a good writer, so this film opens with Hunter, McDowall and Sal Mineo arriving on earth in a space vehicle.<p> After about half of the film's literate, suspenseful, delightful and thought-provoking 97 minutes, the story emphasis segues from broad comedic antics to a rather horrifying dilemma. Eric Braeden, scientific advisor to US President William Windom, suggests that, if indeed in our future apes would subdue humans, why not remove that distant threat by aborting the life of the child of McDowall and Hunter?<p>http://tinyurl.com/2dxesgd
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Worf's pussy-assed son.
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And Evvybuddy?
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Even after Wesley had left, the show just never did it for me. The writing, IMO was just too inconsistent and so many times it felt like 50 minutes of buildup to a quick resolution. I hated that.<P>To each his own, if you liked it Sixies, that's cool, I know many people enjoyed the series. Don't get me wrong, I am in no way saying the show was 7 seasons of lame, not at all. Every season had some good episodes, but for me, the good ones were outweighed by the bad ones. Overall TNG was a mediocre, sometimes wonderful but mostly disappointing sci-fi show.
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DRAGONHEART? You should show your kids DRAGONSLAYER. Now that's a proper Dragon movie, not that fucking travestry that is that Rob Cohen fucking movie. Show your kids what a really dragon movie looks like and tell them that once Disney actually bothered to make a good movie for kinds whioch didn't infantalized and treated them like morons, instead of selling sugarcoated watered down crap they do now.
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Dragonslayer will be gotten to at some point. Sorry to disappoint you my friend, but I liked Dragonheart quite a bit. I seriously don't want to get into a debate about it, I just enjoyed it. I respect your opinion, and trust me when I tell you the Dragonslayer is on the list, I just happen to have D-Heart available at home and my daughter told me she wants to see it.
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Man, I love APOCALYPSE NOW. Damn good article. <BR><BR>I'm especially glad that Ebert brought up one of my favorite scenes --specifically, when Clean takes out the villagers on the sampan as a panicking woman makes a quick dash towards a suspicious barrel followed by the heart-rending moment when Chef discovers to his horror that the basket contained only a puppy. After Willard shoots the injured woman, in one of the most memorable freakouts of many freakouts, Chef sobs, "Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck them!" <BR><BR>I recall being astonished at Sheen's superb performance the first time I saw the film only to be utterly BLOWN AWAY by Brando's incomparable performance--which made Sheen's look run of the mill in comparison.<BR><BR>This is quite simply one of the best movies ever made. However, APOCALYPSE NOW REDUX was--imo--a terrible mistake. Like the Director's Cut of AMADEUS, the longer version actually manages to ruin a classic film with bloated, clumsily paced scenes best left on the cutting room floor.
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Having been a D & D player for a long time, it portrayed Dragons as I knew them from the game....as intelligent creatures, capable of more than just mindless destruction, who could communicate with man and sometimes work side by side with him. Say what you want about the film, but it gave me something I wanted but had never seen in a Dragon movie before, for that, I can be forgiving of its shortcomings.
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I loves me some DRAGONSLAYER. Gritty, bloody, bleak. <BR><BR>Vermithrax = Best fucking film dragon to date. What a monster.
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It's evidence of how the journey is warping them all. Frederick Forrest is just killer in that scene.
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Won't hear any arguments from me regarding that movie.<P>Now that it's being talked about, I'm gonna have to get my hands on a copy. Actually have not seen it in quite some time.
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"Vermithrax = Best fucking film dragon to date. What a monster."<br><br>Too true. And it's Vermithrax Pejorative, mister. Coolest monster name ever. I rewatched the movie recently, and my love and awe for it increased... and it was pretty high already.
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So grungy! You could almost smell the dirt and shit!<BR><BR>And... best priest death ever via a young Emperor Palpatine:<BR><BR>"Unclean beast! Get thee down! Be thou consumed by the fires that made thee!"<BR><BR>Fuck. Yes.
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That the gritty, close up effects of Vermithrax P. could be improved via CGI. Ugh. So VISCERAL.
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It's still the most watchable Trek series after the original.
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I've never seen DRAGONSLAYER.
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"Liked" and "Rob Cohen" are not words you see mutually associated in any phrase i might write, unless there's a "Not" in it somewhere. I really detest that miserable hack! Fucker never made a good movie, never! And really, if i had been a D&D fan, i would hate DRAGONHEART even more.<br><br>As for TNG, i think you are too harsh on it. While i'm not exactly a fan of the show, and i really know little of it other then what i saw from scatered episodes form different seasons, the thing is, the show was anchored in one of the best fictional creations in american TV history: Captain Jean-Luc Picard. Any actor inthat role would had looked good, but then they had the masterstroke to hire Patrick Stewart to the role, which in hindsight must have been one of the most genious decision in american filmed entertaiment. Picard and Steward are the core and heart of the show, and no show can be bad with such a thing form which everything revolves around. And from what i understand, the show does have some really outstanding episodes which can match in quality some of the best stuff from the original show. I don't find it hard to believe.
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In that case, my son, your penitence is to watch it as soon as possible, under the danger of comiting extreme mortal film sin and the lost of your movie geek soul.
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but have it be a buddy movie with a cgi Dragon who is actually a good guy and he should be voiced by Sean Connery.
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Anyone ever seen I CLAUDIUS with Derek Jacobi, P Stewart, John Hurt, et al.? Best BBC adaptation ever and a star turn by several cast members, including a delightfully horrid and brilliant Caligula via the inestimable John Hurt.<BR><BR>Caligula: [after committing an especially gruesome murder] Aren't people awful?
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... thanks a lot for your post quoting that Roger Ebert article about APOCALYPSE NOW. The man put into words some of my own thoughs about the movie, and he partially describes why i love so much that movie and why it's one of my top 3 favorite movie of all time. And what Ebert said about his quote from Francois Truffaut comenting of what he wanted from a film should ring true and to the core of the soul of any real true movie geek. Definatly, any and all movies i love they do present in them both the passion/love and/or the agony of filmmaking. Truffaut said it as it is. I call that a movie having a soul. It makes all the difference. It's what seperates true film quality from false acessements of "good" from lazy self-indulgent movie geeks with little to no standards.
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Wow, not a Cohen fan I see. So you didn't even think that Dragon The Bruce Lee Story was good? <P>Anyways, regarding TNG...I do not deny that Stewart was awesome as Picard, nor have I ever said the show was a giant fail. They had some very good episodes that do match the quality of TOS.....SOME..(The Inner Light may be one of the best written and well done episodes in ST history). It's just that for me, it was not enough. Like I already have said, the show overall was ok, not terrible, but far from what I would call 7 seasons of quality entertainment.
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I CLAUDIUS is halloweed. People should stand up whenever the name of that show is mentioned. The cast in that show is simply unbelievable. And until ROME came up, there was no rival until then in the depcition of ancient Rome on TV... or movie, for that matter.
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Would've made a fine Gandalf at one time... <BR><BR>Remember him as the addled Supreme Being in TIME BANDITS.<BR><BR>Holy shit. TIME BANDITS. Must-see-again-and-again. My favorite Gilliam flick after THE ADVENTURES OF BARON MUNCHAUSEN.
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Time to go get my kids, make some dinner and chill with my little ones. Be back later tonight for a short time. <P>Peace out fools.
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Did you get the package we left you in the previous thread?
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Every single thing about that dragon, msot especially its name, screams WIN!</p><p>Saw it again a few years ago and was surprised to discover Galen was played by the weird guy from Ally McBiel who always "liked a clean bowl".
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Sent a message to STLost a while back and eagerly awaiting reply.
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Are yopu kidding me? I fucking despise that piece of bullshit "Dragon The Bruce Lee Story". As a biopic, all it needed was fucking green martians fighting Bruce Lee in the surface of the fucking moon. That fucking movie is an abortion! The only good thing i can say about it is that despiste the constant saboutages from the fucking director and the retards who wrote that piece of shit, Jason Scott Lee did a one hell of a performance as Bruce Lee, it was uncanny. The actor deserved to had been big, to had break through, to be a star. And of he's good in that fucking movie, he was brillant and magnificent in another, properly very good movie dircted by Vicent Ward called MAP OF THE HUMAN HEART. Now that's a really good movie.
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Ah, yes. Peter MacNicol. Memorably played Stingo in SOPHIE'S CHOICE. And also had an(unfortunately) memorable performance as Dr. Janosz Poha in GHOSTBUSTERS II.<BR><BR>He played a fine Galen in DRAGONSLAYER I thought...
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If you were a girl, i'd marry you. Love for TIME BANDITS? Awesome!
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You, of all people, shouldn't tell someone that they're being too harsh on ANYthing. Just look at your last post, pally.
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... make me wonder why people would even bother with CGI for presenting creatures on film. Vermithrax in the movie just feels so... well, real.
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The Bishop of Bile <p>The Monsignor of Maligning
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I said nothing but the truth. I call shit as i see it.
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prepare to be amazed.
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And what about when i talk about good movies i like? Who I am then?
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Just kidding, champ.<P> You are, of course, welcome to make any remarks that you like. But when you call someone on being harsh, it makes you look like a hypocrite. Just thought you should know.
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You have never, not once stated the TRUTH on this website, as far as I know. You have stated your opinions, which are not truth of any kind, except the truth of your tastes, which are yours alone. <P> You really need to assimilate this info.
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And you may not be willing to join me here.<BR><BR>I love TIDELAND. LOVE it. Feel like it was unjustly misunderstood and maligned. Brilliant, moving, personal and painful film. <BR><BR>Still want to marry me?
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"I have never been so terrorized while watching a movie. The tension in this film is so greatly created but it makes you want to leap out of your seat, dash down the aisle, and never think about kissing again. I felt the need to take a long, hot shower after this film, as it left almost a pile of dirt on each my shoulders."
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Which was THE film--aside from the original TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE--that truly *terrorized* and traumatized me and left me wanting/needing a long, cleansing shower.
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**Spoiler time Colonel** <p> Really, I mean it. Spoiler <p> They build up this wonderful, awesome spear that can cut an anvil in half, and will surely be the dragon's bane....and then...and then....OH FUCK! I broke it! My first friggin' time out with it!
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Just fascinated and intrigued the hell out of me, but this someone was female (a random reviewer on IMDB), and I'd guess that TIDELAND could hit some special chords in a woman that it wouldn't hit with most men.<BR><BR>Between TIDELAND and TIME BANDITS and TAoBM, it's clear Gilliam is stupendous at directing children (especially--imo--girls).
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It just makes you feel all icky, especially the party scene when his girl is all grinding with the devil and stuff. That spiked phallus stuff....*icky-poo*
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Yep. DRAGONSLAYER works against convention and was incredibly unpredictable to me. <BR><BR>*SPOILER WARNING* <BR><BR>Galen makes for a tremendously physically weak hero, although he turns out to be a motherfucking brave one (and--of course--doesn't directly save the day at all).<BR><BR>Don't know if anyone here reads comics, but I find that the storyline of the superb EX MACHINA is completely unpredictable as well. Nice to be surprised sometimes!
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Can't wait!
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I guess I poked Asi in his weak spot or something.
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EX MACHINA is superb. My roomie's got every issue, and now that it's done I'm going to go back and re-read the entire series, and THEN read the last issue. It's gonna be quite a ride, I think.
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though EX MACHINA is one that I have not yet had the pleasure of getting into. <p> Honestly, I've pretty much been out of the game for the last year or so. Some of my fovorites (that I WILL catch up on at some point) are FABLES (and any associated series/miniseries), THE WALKING DEAD, INVINCIBLE, HELLBOY (again, any associated books), THE BOYS. Also BIG fan of PREACHER, SANDMAN, HITMAN, Alan Moore's run on SWAMP THING, PLANETARY, early AUTHORITY, ULTIMATE SPIDEY. <p> Been a comic nerd since I could just look at the pictures.
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Great. That's all that needs to be said. Y THE LAST MAN is gut too.
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the aicn one or the gmail one?
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Is there some overarching story to it, or is it just a series of interlocking revenge stories? I've only read the first storyarc, so I'd like to know that it's going somewhere before I fully commit.
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this series is totally awesome so far.
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they parcel out little bits and build a nice big storyline. It's really cool how it all connects. Not everyone is exactly what they appear to be. <p> There's a reason Graves chooses the people he chooses.
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you are dead inside. That's all I'm gonna say.
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Talk about shades of gray... There are many alternate reality fictional tales, but I'm only familiar with ones that step backwards quite a way. EX MACHINA is notable in that the BIG DIFFERENCE between our world and that fictional world is *SPOILER* THE GREAT MACHINE, who(partially) prevents a comparatively very recent catastrophe. <BR><BR>Great series (and I'm only on issue 16 or so)!
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I guess the gmail one. I use it way more than the old aintitcool account.
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then disregard the invite for the AICN one
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Thanks for the heads up, Jefe. I might just start ordering the trades, since I scarfed down SCALPED so fast. If noir is your thing, by the way, SCALPED is excellent.
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it's at the B'ham liberry. I'm pretty sure they have a few EX MACHINAs as well. Hooray! <p> I love new stuff. And seriously, if no one has, Moore's SWAMP THING run is the ONLY time a damn comic book has EVER creeped me out. There is some messed up, creepy stuff in there. Plus, the introduction of John Constantine, and the total (and totally awesome) reinvention of who/what Swampy actually is.
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The Earth is a spheric object and revolves around the sun, which is a star in the milky way galaxy. I dare you say that i didn't said the truth. I dare you.
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Is supposed to be up there in my last post somewhere. Got sidetracked thinking about all the awesome he packed in his run. <p> Including one of the best batman stories not in his own book.
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Moore's SWAMP THING was a thing of beauty (HAW HAW). Seriously, though. Who can forget Swampy's final confrontation with a much changed Matt Cable and his valiant descent into the badlands and--ultimately--hell? This was real, graphic horror of a kind rarely seen (and, never, I think seen so magnificently pulled off in a comic format up to that point). <BR><BR>And the "American Gothic" storyline. Brrr. So friggin' great...
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Dude, i love TIDELAND too. If you are trying to push me off, you are not trying hard enough. You can't push me away by liking and praising quality movies, man.
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Asi and ST had a simupost at 3:05:05. <p> Ding!
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I LOVED the callback to the vampire town that swampy had run into waaaay back in like issue #3. And Nukeface? Bleeergh! <p> But the hell stuff was just beautiful in its awfulness. And the little dude the Bruja used, with his head twisted around, and one arm sewn to his back...creeeeeeepy.
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ding!
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Gilliam is not just good at directing girl children. The kid in TIME BANDITS is great. Gilliam is simply very good at directing children as well as adults. And if you read the coments made by actors, all of them are in awe of gilliam. With one single exception: Lena Headey. but then again, she doesn't seem to be a praticullary smart woman, since he claimed that Zack Snyder is a better director then Gilliam after her work in 300. That woman has some serious mental problems. Yeah, too bad that she wasn't the first choice for her role in THE BROTHERS GRIMM and Gilliam acepted reluctantly because his first choice was Samantha Morton. Guess what, Morton is by far a much, much better actor then Headey. Deal with it, shallow empty headed girl! God, what an ass Lena Headey must be, and i'm not comenting on her shapely ass, but she as a person. Hardly a brainiac, that's for sure.
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I was outbid last weekend on eBay for the complete run of Fables issues 1-54. I remember when it first came out I checked out an online preview and I had a feeling it was going to be big. But, alas I never picked it up.
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You know, I was going to put a disclaimer on that statement, because I have occaisionally observed you talking about your homeland, or beer or whatnot, but I didn't really think you'd go that far. But you did, bravo, you completely refuted my statement. <P> Oh, wait, no you didn't. You still confuse your opinion with the truth. But don't me hold you back, chief. You keep doing your thing, and I'll do mine.
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Fables is just one of those series that pretty much CAN and DOES go all over the place. Different types of stories, a HUGE cast of characters that are ALL interesting....just a GREAT book. One of my all-time favorites. <p> And nothing is ever just wrapped up all 'neat and tidy'. There are repercussions to everything. Can't recommend it enough.
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It's true, right down to the second. Has such a thing happened before?
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I've had a couple myownself in the last month. It prolly happens a lot more than you realize, if you don't look for it.
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Man, what else can i say to soembody who has this strange udnerstanding of subjectivity and treats it as if it's this dogma thing? So, what, you sleep better at night if there is no truth, only individual opinions that people hacve and which there cannot be any rational accord and understanding? You must think we live in a universe of chaos, do you? We don't. Really, whatever, whatever make you sleep better at night.
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I have indeed been CHOPped!<BR><BR>Good SHOW!
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I hadn't realised this phenonemum before, until you pointed it out. I always assumed it could not happen, that the postings here would follow an order of precedence or something like that. But then again, this is AICN, anything can happen. People have praised here shitty movies to kingdom come, such a smaller weirdity should not be a big deal.
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welcome.
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thats never happened to my recollection..
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for a little while. He is as nutty as a fruit cake, and quite possibly schizophrenic to boot. Really. No joke. Dude changes opinions and thought processes like the weather.
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gonna have to git for a while. Grill up some steaks. Later taters.
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Sept. 1, 2010, 4:18 p.m. CST
Oh man ... Hurricane Earl is Cat. 4 and headed straight for N.C.
by ColonelFatheart
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Dude, you shouldn't be so harsh on that new Star Trek movie. Sure, it was fairly dumb, but it was still entertaining nonetheless.
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Man, Colon-El, for a sec I saw that as 'straight for N.Y.C.'. Now THAT would be something.
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Is there a curse laid upon my body?
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As I've said many a time. <BR><BR>["DFTR" riff plays ominously in the background]
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DON'T FEAR THE CHOPPAH video.
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See ya tomorrow!
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So we're safe, at least.
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I haven't kept up
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I don't think any Pebrews live in Carolina.
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later!
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'And I thought hurricane season was over!' <P>Couldn't resist.
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All alone!
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...but he laughs at the Four Winds.
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...did I miss anything?
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Howdy Howdy Howdy. Just having a heated argument about the rate increase of Time Warner's service and about the fact that they can shove their bells and whistles in their assholes. I need the DVR though. Satanic technology.
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They got ya.
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I was saying goodbye to the ones that left. <P> Sorry for the confusion.
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Get To It!
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...where I live. I hate the service, and they don't seem to give a shit, but they've got you by the short hairs...
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I thought they had a strangle hold on NJ?
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www.originalalamo.com/Show.aspx?id=4100 <P>Already got my ticket.
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...are interchangeable and meaningless to me. All I know is that I recently saw a list of states with the worst internet service...I thought to myself, "hey, my internet sucks, wouldn't it be funny if NJ was on the list?". Turns out NJ was in the top five...just before or after Alaska.
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Sept. 1, 2010, 5:42 p.m. CST
Comcast is my provider, too. There is some Time Warner
by ColonelFatheart
up in these parts, though, and some Cablevision. <p>They all suck.
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"Dude, you shouldn't be so harsh on that new Star Trek movie. Sure, it was fairly dumb, but it was still entertaining nonetheless."<br><br>I find no entertaiment in such a high level of dumbness. Only insult and injury. And not just fairly, but lots. Worst then CLASH OF THE TITANS, which is saying something. At least in CLASH, bad that is it, there's moments where nothing is happening. In the other movie, there is not a single minute where a very dumb stupid shit is happening. Asking me to have fun with such stuff is just asking too much from me. I don't need that dumb shit to get my entertaiment, there's plenty of proper good movies around for that, thank you very much.
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...the name. At least he's the boss.
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phone company and I'm not really up for that. I am just gonna cut back en mass on cable services. Bye bye HBO, Encore, any additional services.
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By 1 p.m. Saturday, Earl will be way up near Canada, and I'll be able to go to the Yankees game. <p>Bad news is, since my weekend is jammed, and Earl is gonna hit us Friday afternoon, I have no idea when I can get out to do the laundry this weekend.
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good viewing.
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A big fan of 'The Hammer', I am. But not a fan of the Banhammer, which is why I couldn't tell you the name outright. <P> I found a $1 DVD of a movie he directed called ADIOS AMIGO, starring Fred and a young Richard Pryor. Pretty terrible by all accounts, but worth hanging onto for the theme song, which plays, I shit you not, at the end of every scene.
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I believe that the intent of my last post to you was lost. Let's just forget it, ok?
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They start at bad and get progressively worse.
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Who even needs cable these days? Between the internet and Netflix, you can watch just about anything these days. All it takes is a little patience. Well, maybe a lot of patience when it comes to tv, but still...
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...by Christina Ricci running around in her unawares.
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I need cable to avoid being driven insane by my cable-deprived fiancee.
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people's technology puts out this trigger and people start flipping their shit and killing each other. Fairly low budget but good for a no name no budget flick.
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Answer: HOSTEL.
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...a month ago...maybe six weeks...don't miss it.
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runnin' aroun' in her unawares.
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Pretty solid for a no-budget flick, as you said. Great ending, as I recall.
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Sept. 1, 2010, 6:19 p.m. CST
If I had my way, I'd have no cable. I'd go all streaming.
by ColonelFatheart
My fiancee is terrified of change, though. She doesn't want no newfangled thingamajig messin' with her stories.
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big fucking woop.
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Er, 'moose!
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You've got the world's greatest lolcow: CWC.
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I read some of the "bio". He sounds like a fucking idiot. Am I missing something, or am i getting the gist?
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...that it provides entertainment.
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I may be back later. <p>If not, you know what to do with that chicken.
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is retarded. Can you give me a best of? Like I said, the last time I found you posting about him I read some kind of wikipedia bio that was insanely long. I stopped aftert he fifth paragraph or something.
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seared cattle flesh <br> steak in mah belly <br> cooked up fresh <p> I started a fire <br> Cookin' with gas <br> Grilled up dem bitches <br> chowed down on dey ass <p> STEAK....IN..........MAHBELLY!!!!
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...and the autism or whatever lends a certain twisted logic or at least consistency to the idiocy...and I like the touch of Engrish.
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about bacon<p>http://tinyurl.com/kun4bt
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...some red wine in mahbelly and it's one of the best feelings.
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http://tinyurl.com/2dr7ade <P> http://tinyurl.com/29tml5e <P> http://tinyurl.com/38r4mh5
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Sept. 1, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST
That third one is possibly the creepiest he's ever done...
by anonymoose
...maybe.
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Mmmm-hm. I gots to get me a bacon bra for my lady. <p> Gots to get me a lady.
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Just a little ribeye, nothing fancy. But damn was it good.
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You. Me. In a boat. The same one.
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http://tinyurl.com/2amuhc9
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Just....unsettling. I can see no more. I fear him.
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I couldn't read much more but I can watch.
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There is also baked potato in mahbelly. And now there is a popsicle. <p> Remember: eat to live. Don't live to eat.
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...of the darkness in mahbelly.
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...of yahbelly too, Jefe.
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For you will never be alone there, in mahbelly! Mahbelly is home to many (for a little while)...new friends pass through oft-times. <p> Mahbelly is like the Sarlacc, only more compressed, time-wise. And without tentacles. Or little sharp teeth-things. Or horrible cgi wormy-head things.
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I had turnip greens AND green beans last night. Tonight was MEAT and STARCHES! Boooooo-ya!!!
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of pizza, macaroni & cheese, and Golden Flake potato chips for about 7 years. <p> Then he got married and had to go back to real food.
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that dude is bat shit. reading the bio doesn't do it justice at all. scary.
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LUNACY!
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but actually INSPIRED lunacy.
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Now one has to be Pro-RPLocke or Pro-Choppah? <P> Sigh. I guess you guys know where I gotta stand on that one.
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who knew. I guess even retards can like Macbeth.
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I hate em both
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from Choppy's fantasy straight to the interwebs.
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...joke there myself, but I figured no one would stoop so low for the easy shot...I forgot just how low you fly...<P> Speaking of fly, and you being down low...<P>[zip]<P> Get too it, CHOPPAH!
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Fuck 'em both.
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A dirk-an old-timey knife kinda thing.
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isn't guanwo bat shit? he is bat shit crazy anyway.
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ya got me.
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You haven't played much D&D. Don't worry, I won't hold it against you.
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just google imaged the dirk. Looks like something Costner had on his hip in Prince of Thieves.
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RPG...not for me. Not sure why. Just never caught the fever.
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Hey, isn't that streaming on Netflix? It's been at least ten years since I've seen it. I wanna see how Christian Slater's English accent holds up...
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I actually learned everything i know about Islam from Freeman in that movie.
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I got into it thru a friend (a girl), and was lucky enough to tutel under one of the best storytellers I've ever met. He made each game seem as real as if it were actually happening. We did D&D, superhero stuff, secret agent stuff, you name it. <P> Ah, good times.
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That reminds me of Time's cover story this week: 'Is America Islamophobic?' <P> Well, gee, Time Magazine, could it be that our media has made us Islamophobic? I mean, have you seen TRUE LIES? [shudder]
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it was cool in concept but it lacked in the storytelling as you said. It was never laid out for me properly and the story was nowhere to be found. I blame it all on my Dungeon Master. Then we started drinking. Drunk 15 year olds don't grasp the RPG concept well.
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keeps surprise sexing my monitor. I fucking hate it.
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thanks for the blade edumacation Ted. Take over on the chicken for me. Night.
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Fucking Jake and his CGI abs.
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...I'm really good at staring moodily into the distance. I also serve as a napkin holder if you need one of those."
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I sure am.
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Been a while since I seen the Cloondawg runnin' around with gun, tho...
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thrillers of international intrigue.
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...I'd strangle a puppy to see that tonight. Well, no, no I wouldn't, but I'm excited to see it this weekend.
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How was THE INTERNATIONAL? I had some interest in seeing that one...
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...corn syrup.
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...slower pace, gray European cities...a country chalet in the snow...<P> BANG!<P>I'm there.
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...was just a tepid OK.
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...I might whack it with a hammer if you put it in a sack first...
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Other than the Guggenheim scenes, I heard it was pretty meh.
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Ebert compared THE AMERICAN to it in his review today. If I wasn't already excited to see it, that would have made me so.
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...would you give it, out of five?
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...and you were the one polishing my low hanging fruit.<P>I won't be in the mood again for a bit...you missed your chance, I'm afraid.
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It fits your criteria, according to your interest in THE AMERICAN and BOURNE I. <p>Suck a shit tube, Choppy.
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...better watch the cluck out...'cause I'm coming for them.
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Is he gone yet?
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Sept. 1, 2010, 9:26 p.m. CST
Give those chickens the rotisserie treatment, Flick.
by ColonelFatheart
You know, as long as Scary uses her strap-on, that is.
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I just read Capone's review of THE AMERICAN, and now my interest is piqued. Doesn't sound anything like I expected. Sounds more like Clooney's CONFESSIONS OF A DANGEROUS MIND than anything else, and I loved that film.
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Keep Choppin' those chickens, Choppah. <p>And Pebrews: don't cluck around!
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Just dropping in for a quick hello and good bye, I'll catch up tomorrow. Had a good night with the kids. Time for some rest. Peace my fellow pebrews!
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That's a line from THE STUFF.
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Yeah Ted, I don't think Asi "got" your wind-up. Or that the PBack is all about respect. We may slag each other off, but only in jest. Plenty of other threads for that sorta thing.
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He's at home-WASHIN' HIS TIGHTS!
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What a fucking idiot. Seriously. Moron.
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You know, whenever I think of that line, I don't actually think of it in situ/in the film, but the sample - And WHERE-And WHERE, is the Batman? - as in the Prince Batdance song. What can I say, I'm an old (in both senses) Prince acolyte...
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Wotcha up to at the moment?
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What's happening, chaps! <P> D., Moron is right! I really can't believe someone would defend such a thoroughly bland movie with such vigor. It boggles my mind. <P> Whitey, I hate to say it, but my enjoyment of Prince begins and ends with the Batdance. Tho I did dance with an incredibly hot p.o.a. to 1999 at my prom, which was also enjoyable.
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I understand. The sight of his hairy little body squirming around in When Doves Cry could put ANYbody off! <p> Who's gonna stop 200 balloons? Nobody!
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...I know that I did see PURPLE RAIN at the drive-in when it came out. Maybe that left a subconcious dislike of Prince in my childish mind for some reason.
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Friday evening. With da former Mrs. Fuzzy. I've read a few positive reviews from those I trust: Ebert, Capone, Drewiarty. I like Clooney as much as a straight man can, and the movie sounds intensely subdued, if that makes any sense.
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You read Capone's review? He really liked it. I'm starting to come around to it, but I'm still way more excited about MACHETE.
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And I wanna see Machete too. But there's now way the lady is gonna want to see that instead. No. Way. <p> But you can bet your bottom dollar that the first movie with DANNY MOTHERFUCKIN' TREJO headlining will get my money. Oh yes.
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I'll take that to the bank, then. Ok, pally, I'm off to catch the $1 midnight movie at the Alamo. Have a good 'un.
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I wish we had any kind of cool theater here in the 'ham. Nope. Carmike, Regal, or Rave. That's it. <p> At least there are a couple of drive-ins within an hour, hour-and-a-half.
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this CWC pikachu dude OR <P> The person who took the time to create an entire wiki-type website on this character. He even wrote a transcript for the videos! <P>
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He's contradicting himself now in very obvious ways. Either he's trolling, or he's a VERY stupid, forgetful person.
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Sorry, was refuting Fett point by point in the Clash talkback. I think I'm making very thoughtful, valid points; he's making childish assumptions and comebacks. <p>Whatever. I'm wasting time on him. I've got 2 more long days on this commercial with the director of Marmaduke. Which is less time for me to plan my next short film/commercial for a contest that I need to shoot next week for the deadline =(.
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I see Fishman had an eye opening experience...glad it went well...
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In both words (with a co-worker) and in physical movement. Another PA and myself enjoyed spending much of the day on set walking around like that first mime that appears near the stairs of the City Hall murder of the crime boss (with the feather pen), the guy who comes walking up like a robot. Been doing that all day. Also the belly explosion ("aahhhhh BLOOOOMPH!) movement Jokes does in the hallway as he exits Viki Vale's apartment after killing Bruce Wayne. <p> heheh.
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I can't remember if I asked this already, but did you get out of your dilemma with not having the girl for another day? <p> Ha ha, Bat-moves FTW! Get the funk up! Go, go, go with a smile!
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HHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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The original girl, who at first backed out, was able to do it in the end. Unfortunately, her backing out caused me to not invite another girl, the Laurel to her Hardy so to speak, to drive the 2 hrs into town for the other role. <p>So I had to work fast and use a girl who works at the location I was using (she was once a tv news reporter) as the other actress. Unfortunately, she was only available for 15 minutes. But she was a pro who learned her lines fast and acted them well, so I was able to pull off the initial, important scene I needed to setup the rest of the short. <p> I got lucky, what can I say =).
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IS he really lockesbrokenleg? I wonder what happened to him...
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but he does seem awfully gay...
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I hear there's gays in the military now. You should sign up.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 12:02 a.m. CST
How bout you two take that to a Pilgrim site...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
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WE know what you think!
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WE know wha- OK I'll stop.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 12:18 a.m. CST
So, in the never ending story of my work life...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
I haven't had a day off since LAST Monday...tomorrow is supposed to be my day off...<p>As fate has it, the corporate auditor landed in town this week and hit the closest store to mine today. They failed the audit miserably...<p>All district level management is in panic mode, got 7 calls from different execs tonight , "check this and make sure that..."<p>I may have to work tomorrow if the auditor shows up...<p>Still, I am going to drink excessively (even for me) and trust the odds...since the Auditor began the year auditing the stores with the worst annual inventories in the previous year, and he has worked backwards from that in each market...My store has had the best inventory in the district 2 years running...There are three other districts in my market and each have 4 to 6 stores that have yet to be audited...<p>So, I have what, a one in 20 chance he'll show up tomorrow and ruin my day off...?
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Seaman' Semen...<p>Kind'a like McHale's Navy...
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Semen/Seamen: The Simpsons has many moments of genius - and to put that one in a King Kong satire is as subversive as anything else I've seen. Nobody saw THAT one coming!
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boy that takes me back to the days as a kid you'd watch anything just because it was on in the afternoon and there were no cartoons on any channel. Never really Liked Borgnine but Silvers was/is awesome. <p> Although Borg-of-Nine's awesomosity went way up for me when I saw him on that today show saying that the secret to him looking so much younger than 93 (he whispered in the host's ear knowing the mike would still pick it up) is that he masturbates every day. I think they cut to a break after that. Respect, respect.
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HHHHHAAAAAAA!!!!!
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And still masturbates??? At least he still remembers that masturbation is funny...
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although I don't wanna see his palms. "Hirsute" indeed! <p> Hope I still have that much, er, lust for life when I'm that old. <p> Maybe he denies women his essence...
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The new fragrance from Avon...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqyD8E1QATs
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So, what's it like living in 2002?
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Sept. 2, 2010, 2:40 a.m. CST
Vader, it's considered bad form to bring arguments...
by RETURN_of_FETT
from one talkback into another, particul;arly when you are getting your asshole fucking OWNED!</p><p>D.Vader CONSTANTLY referrences things that DON'T HAPPEN IN THE FUCKING MOVIE, then bitches about it. I've got the movie file right here and I'm like "What the fuck? That doesn't happen!". Apparently his asshole is so ruptured from this discussion that he's limping over to you guys for some solace. Pretty laughable and sad really. A word of advice Vader, deal or fucking leave. If you spread bullshit, I'm'a gonna call you on it. I suggest you shut the fuck up about it now and move along to your next embarrassing moment.
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What's truly sad Fett is that you followed me here to a talkback you never visit. What's even sadder is that you think I was "owned". Pretty pathetic.
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I know it's a satire, the actors and editing are all too professional, but it still gives me the creeps! <p> I need to watch Role Models again and remember that freaks are people too. <p> http://tinyurl.com/yd9gxum
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to fuck the chicken before getting the farmers permission. I can't resist those clucky little suckers though. Formality does not exist in this.........<p>where is Cobes when I need him.
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I haven't been around much because I've been working a heckofalot. But is this what you do? Go around "chopping" the good talkbacks?
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Vades, skimmed over your argument in the Titans back. You make some good points, although I did not see the film, but as stated before, based on all I have heard from you and others, It isn't worth my time. Besides Bland Worthington sounds like he gave the same perfromance he gave in T:S and Avatar, so If I wanna see that, I'll watch Avatar again.<P>Caught up a little on last nights events.Ted...i was also a hard core D & D player for many years, also did the spy thing, wester, and sci-fi RP games. ALl fun, but D & D is still tops.<P>Wow, Purple Rain, I saw that like 5 times in the theater. I really liked that movie, and the music was Prince at the top of his game. The stuff he did after that was kinda....bad, but PR was a damn good film IMO.
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Hows it goin dude
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i had problems with him before..hes claimed time and again that if you dont like the BALE version of batman, you dont like the character of batman..we all know here that adam west and batman:TAS is the true dark knight.<P>and then he started claiming that JAWS shuld be remade and all that "talky" and "family" shit should be jettisoned and it should be just two hours of chasing a shark..<P>**sixies pissing on FETTS ashes**
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are you up early?
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You go bro! LOL
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At work actually, this is one of the places we take care of where there is not much to do other than babysit some servers and make sure the wireless network is running....kinda boring.
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Always thought it was PG13. Nope, its R rated. Can't believe the mentally handicapped guy on LA Law could play such a good psychopath. <br> <br> Did a more in depth post on the movie in the MESRINE thread.
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"Dont Fear The Reaper" came up on my shuffle. <P> I smiled fondly of Fishus. <P> I spat in disgust at the CHOPPAH.
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Love that movie. Yea, Durant was a sick dude. Gotta love how Darkman got rid of the bald dude. They made two DTV sequels with the dude who played the Mummy, Arnold Vosoolo I think is his name. I never saw them cause they didn't have Neeson, but I hear they are decent.<P>I am everyone, and no one....everywhere, nowhere....call me.......darkman.<P>Love it.
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Who doesn't spit on Choppah? Guy's an assclown of the highest order.<P>How are you this fine morning?
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I was in here talking about the various Star Trek shows and which ones are likely to come to Blu-ray WAAAY before your post.</p><p>Yet ANOTHER example of you not actually paying attention and accusing of something entirely different. *sigh*
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I remembered him from somewhere. He was the one that wanted to redo JAWS.
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Looks like it's been a busy mornin' at AICN (and evenin' before). <BR><BR>Holy Moley.<BR><BR>How's everyone doing this fine mornin'?<BR><BR>Looks like Hurricane Earl is going to just squeak by the east coast (and move more east than west with any luck). I'm keepin' my fingers crossed for any residents up there. Believe me--I know how you're feeling.
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I said that if Universal called me up and asked me to conceive of a remake, I'd take the job! LIKE YOU WOULDN'T!
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for a Thursday. <P> We had a big security assessment in July and now are trying to implement the fixes. It needs to be done, but just so much tedious work. <P> How's it going yourself? Are you the birthday boy yet?
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I still think he's a bit of a misunderstood, evil genius. With a hell of a lot of free time!<BR><BR>Chop on, I says!
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Complaining about parts of a movie that DON'T EXIST, and I fucking call you on it, yeah, I'd label that "getting owned".
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like we look at previous posts before we squat here..<P>god i wish i pulled out before i came in your mother..<P>you deserved to be wiped off and flushed..<P>say hi to your mother for me.
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...misunderstood, and longing for love and validation?
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Read Nick Fury:Secret Warriors #19, last ride of the howling commando's last night.<br> <br> That issue had so much better dialogue, fully developed characters, action than Stallones attempt at recapturing the glory of 80s action flicks. <br> <br> This issue also showed the brutality of combat, personal sacrifice and what a true band of brothers are. Not the fratboy buddys image Stallone went with. Along with the crappy dialogue.<br> <br> If you miss the Lee Marvin, Burt Lancaster, Steve McQueen movies of old, pick up Secret Warriors #19.
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fuck no i wouldnt take the job and fuck yes, you did say you whole heartedly supported a remake of JAWS and then went on to say you'd excise the "family" and "talky" parts--i.e. the fucking script!<P>note: those talky parts that might seem slow to your ADD-rattled pea sized brain is what makes the film work. less shark=good. had it been a straight up monster film like you so wanted, we wouldnt be talking about it 35 years after the fact.
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He read an article about how Clash was changed in editing and with reshoots, so now he thinks he's this wise fucking sage regarding how the film SHOULD have gone. he thinks that instead of being an action/adventure film, it shoyuld have been more like What Dreams May Come. You guys can side with that if you want to byut I happen to think it's a really fucking stupid idea.
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I told his mom hi for you last night...LOL<P>ST....Next wednesday my friend, 44. Going well here, like I said earlier, my morning shift on Thursdays is kinda boring, after updating the servers, not much to do at all.<P>Morning Fishy! So far no word if earl is gonna hit NY, doubtful, I sure hope he stays away
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I can see you're still hung up on it, I barely remember the conversation. Have fun with that.
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it is a known fact that a lot of the stuff that DV is talking about is on the cutting room floor. this was done so for people like you who only want BOOM and BANG.<P>he has every right to complain about the lack of motivation and characterization and good stuff. if we just rated films on what was IN them, then they would all be perfect.<P>i had the same problems with TERMINATOR SALVATION, a film im sure you adore.
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in DARKMAN with the way he killed some of the bad guys. Heh,heh...
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mindless drones cant remember shit after the weekend..which is EXACTLY WHY you see shit like CLASH!!!<P>i really dont blame the studio for not even trying and insist on making shitty films..i lay the blame solely on you for lapping it up!<P>wear the crown of shame you fucking sheep!
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Sept. 2, 2010, 8:49 a.m. CST
Ok, here is a little lesson for those of you who may have missed
by rogueleader66
Jaws....may appear to be about hunting a killer shark, but guess what? It is a totally character driven film. The "talking" and "family stuff" is there for a specific reason. The movie is driven by the three main characters and how they deal with the situation they are in, each in a different way. They all have different motivations for hunting this shark, thus making them all the more interesting. We care about these guys. Take away the "talking" and "family" stuff and just have three guys hunting a shark? Lame to the highest degree.<P>Ever see Deep Blue Sea? Yea well guess what, that's what happens when you don't have character development. Did anyone give a shit what happened to ANYONE in that movie? Nope, because you did not give a damn about any of them. Some movies may not need you to care about the characters, but Jaws does, because that is what the movie is about, those three guys, not the shark.<P>Class dismissed.
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Titans was what happens after my dog eats tinnsel during the holidays. The result is glittery shit. The original is loved for it's flaws but the new one was ruined. The whole conception of the quest is tucked. Why change what worked, and what was essentially irrelevant. The plot is merely a device to deliver the action. Guy wants girl and sets off to win her favor. Done. Moving on. THE NEW ONE FUCKS THIS UP, thus creating an inforgivable shit pile no amount of fx could justify. Discussion over.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 8:55 a.m. CST
Bag, his probalems don't have as much to do with character motiv
by RETURN_of_FETT
As they do with things that don't happen in the film. I don't mean character moments that have been hacked out, I mean things like "Perseus never even uses the scorpion sheild. He uses some other sheild to see Medusa's reflection".</p><p>See, now that's just plain WRONG. He DOES use the scorpion sheild and in fact it IS the sheild he uses to see Medusa's reflection.</p><p>MY problem with that scene is "How the fuck does a scorpion hide sheild have a reflective interior?". That would seem like a valid complaint. MY complaint happens in the film, his doesn't.</p><p>That would be like me saying "I don't understand why a purple dragon swoops down out of the sky and kills the Kraken. That's just lazy writing." See what I mean? Attack the film for what it actually DID, not for what you mistakenly remember it doing.
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14 discs of TNG music? It's not like Eric Wolfgang Korngold scored the damn thing!
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Why make it revenge motivated? Why turn Perseus into an asshole? Why change so much just to be "ccol". And I swear fucking Worthington, can that guy do anything other than the brooding, mumbling hero? Why is this guy getting so much high profile work?<P>Oh and good mornin Mac
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is when Brody is on the phone early in the movie and his wife and kid are talking in the background. It is such a real moment. They don't fade the secondary conversation away to focus on the "important call". It creates a REAL world feeling in the movie. The wife and kid don't just go away. They are still there, still important. THAT is why the movie is so good. It seems small but it is one of the most significant scenes in the film for me.
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I'm pretty sure Chop's out of his/her mind, but I also think that s/he's (to quote Nietzsche) beyond good and evil. <BR><BR>But--basically--s/he remains a mystery to us all. And, fuck, has Chop ever been busy lately!<BR><BR>As for TITANS--never was a big fan of the original, so never really interested in the remake. The storyline was always pretty shitty imo, which is just astounding given the literary richness of Greek mythology. <BR><BR>Start TITANS all the fuck over, I says, and let Neil Gaiman write the fucker with a completely different plot.
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Those things happen in the movie and I agree with you that they are problems.
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...was it you reading AMERICAN GODS right now?
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Also happens a bit later in the film, when Brody and Hooper are on the phone and you can barely make out either one of their conversations. All I remember is "why do i need to go to brisbane when I have a great white here"<P>There are so many little details about the movie that just make it so great.<P>Oh I know it was the 70's but OMG the Mayor's wardrobe, it was god awful, even for back then. That suit with all the little anchors all over it, awful.
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They should have just improved the cool in titans. They made Kalibas less relevant AND most importantly took away the pitchfork hand and whip. Unforgivable. Kalibas WAS this movie for me growing up. He was cool here but i was disappointed.
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It was a BAD decision to remove him from the composing task. <p> On the other hand... imagine HOW many disks they would have thron out by now, if he'd stayed within the STAR TREK franchise... not that I would have NOT bought that incredibly BIG BOX! <p> He should have also scored the movies! What he had done with the series felt like movie scores! Hell, yeah!
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I got no beef with you dude, but seriously, why drag this out? The bottom line is you guys have different views on Titans, just leave it at that. There really is no point in this, but do what you feel you must.
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I the graffiti on the billboard there too. Big film in my home growing up. My family dogs name was Brody.
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The bad shit was so prevalent that if Vades wants to make up more shit to bitch about...it will fit right in with the rest of the nonsense. Why fight over a fat ugly girl with no personality. That's what's happening here.
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I'm totally down with that.
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a Iam about to need a new book and i have been hearing an awful lot.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST
rogueleader66 and MacReady452, ha ha I suppose you're right
by RETURN_of_FETT
I just didn't like that he spread it to another talkback. I saw that as a foul that needed to be addressed. But yes, I will drop it.
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Lived in Martha's Vineyard at the time they were shooting Jaws and was a few people short of being on the one beach scene where they all run out of the water. He did get to see a lot of the shooting of the film though. Pretty cool.
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Classic family moment in Jaws.<br> <br> Although I think uncle Bill used it on Sissy at least once in "Family Affair"
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Easily Gaiman's best fiction since SANDMAN.<BR><BR>It concerns a convict named Shadow who becomes immersed in a conflict between older, mythological gods/beings and newer, technologically based gods/beings. That's all you need to know (anything else would potentially ruin it for you, Mac).<BR><BR>NO ONE since Milton has fictionally synthesized and breathed life into so many mythological beings from so many cultures as Gaiman has between AMERICAN GODS and his SANDMAN books. Such great dialogue; such great characters; such a fucking terrific story.<BR><BR>READ it!
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The chicks that like it will be the ones you KNOW are full of shit HAHAHAHAHA.
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Josh Holloway, as Shadow, if an AMERICAN GODS movie were made.
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I also thought a reflective scorpion shield was absurd. Also understand that we have a little club thing here and everything from what i just ate to the consistency with which it just left my ass gets shared here so for Vades to tell us of your spat wasn't so much a gossipy bitch move as it was a living diary.
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we could sit here all day and talk bout them.
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for epicness, on a personal scale.
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...of a way to pitch AMERICAN GODS without giving too much away.<P> Mac, if you're like me, the fact that the protagonist is named Shadow will bother you for about 20 pages or so...but it'll pass.<P> I couldn't get into SANDMAN, but I loved GODS.
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...contemporary America feel like a mythologically interesting place...no easy task.
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You may consider giving SANDMAN another chance. The first 7 issues or so are shaky, particularly as Gaiman tries to integrate his vision into the DC universe. But from issue 8 on, it's pretty much pitch perfect (and gets better and better imo).
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...my DW is tearing through those big hardcover tomes right now and loving it.<P> One problem I always have with comic books or graphic novels is that the artwork has to grab me first...and I'm really kind of fussy about it. SANDMAN art seems adequate...not a big hurdle, but not a huge enticement either.
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The Shadow thing may have bothered me. Thanks for the heads up Flick. All the love here almost makes it a must read. In fact....<p>EVERYONE IS NOW REQUIRED TO READ AMERICAN GODS. So it is written.
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Can't afford it. I Do have a box of comics my cousin has been holding for me for many years. Gotta get that back and see what I have. I know I have issue #1 of GI Joe, as well as the Transformers limited series. Should be interesting to see what else I have.
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Not that its a problem.
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I am trying to read Watchmen at the moment. Not too far in, but I like it so far. Interesting seeing as I saw the movie first and am now reading the book.
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...MATERIALS? I don't think it's ever come up around here. <P>Everyone always says that the first one is great and the rest suck, but I thought the exact opposite. The first one didn't really grab me until towards the end, and I loved how the second and third books got progressively bigger and weirder.
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The art in the initial issues is much weaker than in the later ones. Some of the artwork is downright astonishing (see the issue "Ramadan").<BR><BR>No, Mac. AMERICAN GODS is pure prose.
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So close to a first post in the Piratesback. Unprecedented for me at this time of day in such a commercial thread. Not that i give 2 turfs about being first.
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But when I do I make an obnoxious comment about it. It's supremely retarded when people make such a huge deal out of it. If it got you money or something ok I could see it, but you gain nothing so really who gives a fuck. It's important to people with really empty lives I suppose.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 10:19 a.m. CST
...I'll admit that I think it's pretty fucking cool when...
by FlickaPoo
...someone manages to be first AND post a solid joke on topic...and the few times I've pulled it off I felt inordinately proud of myself.
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in something like this thread only not ST related<p>ScoreKeeper says the new score for Pride and Prejudice is something to be proud of<p><br><br>MacReady452.......FIRST!!!!!
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That is just fucking gay. In fact, I would say the reason I wasn't fist this time is cause I was posting something juvenile yet relevant. Curse this need to be on topic.
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I've read Pullman's HIS DARK MATERIALS. Thoroughly enjoyed 'em too. Too bad they screwed the pooch with THE GOLDEN COMPASS. At least they got Iorek the bear right. <p> Speaking of Gaiman, I just read ELSEWHERE that Eric Kripke (the man behind SUPERNATURAL) is trying to get SANDMAN developed as a television show. The good news is that one of his 'conditions' is that it must have Gaiman's blessing or INVOLVEMENT, or he'll drop it. Coolness. <p> Flicka---I'll second the notion that you really gotta give SANDMAN another chance. I wasn't a huge fan of a lot of the art, but it changes from storyline to storyline, and some of it is really freakin' gorgeous later on. And damn, the writing is just so incredible that it really doesn't matter what it looks like. There's a reason it's so beloved so many years after the last book was written.
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I'll be heading to my storage unit to dig out some reading material. Back later peebs.
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You're welcome.
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You mean apart from the gorgeosity of the McKean covers, right Flick? Right!
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Goodbye Fuzzman
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Of course Choppah was in there, that's enough to drive anyone away from a TB.
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OMG that movie, James Brolin fighting a demonic car. How can you beat that? Oh and the car's horn is still creepy.
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I always bought based on the art work. Anything Jim Lee had my money. Sadly i didn't really care about story all that much. Peter David was one of the few that would catch my interest. His Hulk run was great.
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I better watch at least one movie I have not seen. I am getting really bad, I used to do a lot of catch up viewing, now I am lazy and just watch stuff I have already seen. Shame on me. Maybe I will get me a copy of Dr. Strangelove...just maybe.
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They draw some of the biggest titties you ever saw.<P>Could not resist the Clerks reference.
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It's Peter Griffin humming star wars music, from the end of Blue Harvest. Awesome.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 10:48 a.m. CST
...hi, Nilla. My library has the big, collected editions...
by FlickaPoo
...of SANDMAN. I suppose the individual covers are in there, but you have to dig through the phone-book for them.<P> Did McKean only do covers? SANDMAN aside, it always makes me crazy when inside work and cover aren't the same person.
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When that was the shooting name of Jedi? Does not compute.
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...as it sounds...<P> Just now I feel like I'm working really hard in hopes of being adequate.
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You know, I can't remember if McKean did internal stuff on Sandman. I'm pretty sure he did a couple of the annuals. He also did an awesome issue (cover and internal) of Hellblazer called "Hold Me". Which I got Gaiman to sign. <p> But hey, I can't check all that because remember my tale of woe about losing all my uninterrupted runs of Sandman and other Vertigo titles from water damage?
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The new one coming out in Dec is a Jedi spoof. Why they called the first one blue harvest I don't know, Seth McFarlane is a weed smoker, that may explain a lot.<P>Anyways, off to my afternoon shift, talk to you all in a bit.
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for STAR WARS.
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For the info. I'll agree to disagree with you on the show. Good God I hate it. American Dad I found less infuriating. Anyway I'll stop there. <p> Catch ya later mate. <p> I'm out too. Past 2 in the A.M. and my brain has shut down for the night.
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I guess I shouldn't challenge the STAR WARS knowledge of someone called "rogueleader" ...
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Like I said, Jedi. The tagline was "Horror beyond imagination" or something like that from memory. They used it to keep lollygaggers and rubbernecks away while shooting. Didn't work for long. Which is why I didn't get the Family Guy SW spoof being named that. Then again, I don't get the Something Something Dark Side one either. <p> Right, this time I mean it. Laterz.
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I shouldn't challenge the SW knowledge of someone with "vader" in their name, either!
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That was me. <p> Now, I REALLY mean it. Out.
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If I live an adequate life, things will be well.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST
Another oil rig exploded off the coast of Louisiana.
by Le Vicious Fishus
Fuckin' shit. At least no one is dead.<BR><BR>http://tinyurl.com/3akz53r
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seriously, are people gonna still complain about a moratorium or just mindlessly chant DRILL BABY DRILL???
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in a couple of weeks if there still isn't leaking reported. They reported no leaks initially from the first week or so after the Deepwater accident too.
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you're anti-American.
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TO CHOP OR NOT TO CHOP<BR><BR>http://tinyurl.com/2ccs5wr
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which is in the process of being acquired by Apache.
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ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES 1971.<P> Directed by Don Taylor. <P> Starring Roddy McDowall, Kim Hunter, Bradford Dillman, Natalie Trundy, Eric Braeden, and Ricardo Montalban. <P> The second best, by far, of THE PLANET OF THE APES series of films is now nominated as a possible Pantheon inductee at AICN. I can hear the snobbier of The Pedalbackers sneering from a safe distance. Certainly, it might seem out of place sitting next to PATHS OF GLORY or, even KING KONG, and it'd obviously seem out of place as an inductee preceding the original classic, but, make no mistake, you're gonna induct far less worthy titles over time. Odd to dismiss it out-of-hand, considering this is the era when genre pictures with any iota of "depth" are routinely acclaimed. <P>How do you continue to sequelize a concept when the previous film (the truly ill-conceived BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES) ended with the destruction of the planet? Well, when you have time travel and paradoxes as a given from the beginning, you can do almost anything, but no one could've predicted what the film-makers would do, when they turned the whole kaboodle on its hairy head.<P> OK, you can nit-pick this plot specific, if you want: Genius ape "Milo," played by James Dean's BFF Sal Mineo, somehow found one of the U.S. astronauts' spaceships out in The Forbidden Zone and had time to get it in working order while the gorillas were smacking down on skinless mutants. It's a throwaway explanation, and in the history of sci-fi silliness it's really no more preposterous than invading peoples' subconsciouses and building M.C. Escher architecture there. As an excuse to get "Zira" and "Cornelius," the hippie chimpanzees from the first, only briefly used in the second, back to 1970s America, it works, and the opening shot of three astronauts poking out of their escape hatch, removing their helmets to reveal furry chimp faces, was a shock nearly as bold and exciting as the first sight of gorillas on horseback in the first film. <P>Blockbusteritis has brainwashed us into expecting sequels must perpetually up the ante, action and thrill-wise, but ESCAPE takes the less-used route and unexpectedly ups the ante in a whole 'nother way. Stranding apes among humans, as opposed to astronauts among apes, positions the film as a more traditional invading-alien/monster movie, but, while mixing in elements of romantic comedy and political thriller, writer Paul Dehn preserves - enhances, even - the racial-political philosophy of Rod Serling's concept. A return to the concept of misunderstood monster, as classic an idea as Frankenstein's Creation or The Wolfman, updated with a contemporary wardrobe and modern concerns. Women's equality, racial prejudice, political dishonesty, pacifism, even, ethnic cleansing. Heavy issues, deftly embraced by a film about talking apes. More skillfully handled here than even in the magnificent first chapter, which got a little preachy in its third act before recovering with a terrific ending. <P> ESCAPE's an original twist on the classic immigrant tale, as well. The Other is fascinating as long as it wears our tie-dyed dresses and drinks our "grape juice plus" - as long as it assimilates. Once The Other challenges our preconceived notions of superiority, however, things get quite a bit dicier. All of this without once resorting to shouting, "Hey! Look at me! I'm an apartheid metaphor over here!" With Eric Braeden's conservative government bureaucrat as the villain, representing an entire generation's distrust of the establishment in the pre-Watergate era, the ape characters become, for the first time in the series, really, heroes for the audience. The jeopardy they're in becomes unbearable. Their ultimate fates, horrifying.<P> This one is emotional heart of the whole saga. And, considering the saga in question involves actors slumming around in plastic prosthetics, its effectiveness is surprising and rewarding for those who are willing. <P>★★★★☆ ¼ <br> (4.25/5)
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Speaking of ol' Choppy, I reposted in the PIRATES-back a song he put in the BEAST-back. Lord Chop never ceases to amaze ...
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no i hold the people accountable and yes the businesses too..<P>people rallying against the president who wants to slow down on the drilling to make sure things are safe out there..people are blasting them because they are ignorant..well here we are again..<P>hopefully this isnt as bad as last time..but if it is..those people protesting and chanting DRILL BABY DRILL need to shut defuck up and start the cleanup (again)
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Now THAT is a defense of ESCAPE!
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Teabaggin' wingnuts are already slithering out of the woodwork accusing the Obama administration of sabotage. <BR><BR>Wow.
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Sixes, that was a wonderful review of my favorite Ape movie...
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Sixies, we're on the verge of seeing the Republican Party, a version of which that has embraced aggressive ignorance and extremism as "the mainstream," reclaiming at least the House of Representatives. The people who'll vote in the midterm elections won't care about oil rigs or wars or anything, they're concerned either about their (lack of) employment or the fact that a half-breed illegitimate black Muslin is pretending to be president of these here United States. <p>Right now, America is so in love with its own demise, it's willing to put a more extreme, volatile and stupid edition of the party that largely created the multitude of messes we're in back in power.
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 ‍‍‍‍<br>So  ‍‍‍&zwj</br> fucking depressing.
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Colonel....yes how dare you question my knowledge!!! LOL...seriously though I do know a lot about SW...I would not say I know everything, but a lot.<P>Sixies....great review, gonna have to revisit that movie been a while since I have seen it.<P>Don't even get me started on politics. Republicans.....people who love America, but hate Americans...what a bunch of self righteous ass fuckers. Put them all in a giant mean grinder and be done with it. Dems are not much better, but at least they TRY to pretend they care about the citizens...try. <P>That's all I have to say about that.
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...Zuul?
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since I wasn't woken up at 7 am by panicked callers...Got to sleep in for a change...
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Mrs Rogue is getting me a special treat for my birthday next week....some good ole herbal refreshment :) She is awesome. <P>That's my "secret" present, obviously she cant wrap it and have me open it in from of the kids lol, so she said she's getting me something else as well.
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in the long run. The racist reactionary values that fuel the Teabaggers are representative of its demographical makeup being mostly white old heads. Young people do not care about Socialism/Communism, are not homophobic, are much more accepting of brown people and are not as cynical about the possibility of government by the people working for the people.
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That's not me..that's from our dear departed brother..subby. He said I could post it.
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...but I think we're in for an ugly scene. They won't go down without a fight, and even the more reasonable older white people I know seem irrationally reactionary and ill at ease in their guts about no longer being the only dominant way of American life...as if there was ever such a thing...
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Sept. 2, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST
Stabby: That's one good thing about the Teabaggers.
by ColonelFatheart
But they'll try to create as much damage as possible in the relative short time the old white majority has left. It doesn't take long to destroy a republic from within.
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...hijack a certain percentage of the same discontent that swept Obama into office...that troubles me.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST
Oh, rogueman...what a wonderful woman she is...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
hiding it from the kids gets harder and harder every year they get older...until eventually you just have to break the news...<p>With my oldest daughter, the ex and I would get high in our room (put down the damp towel at the bottom of the door and all) and we would usually get away with it by claiming incense or something, until one night when she was like 12, she was really panicked and afraid something was on fire...<p>So, we decided to come clean. We sat her down together and told her effectively that the school drug programs were teaching her bullshit about weed and that most of her friends' parents, at least the ones we knew, all smoked weed...<p>She cried a little and had a "there's no Santa" moment, then she got over it and we never had a drug problem with her after that, because she knew we would be strait with her about other drugs...
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There are far too many "moderates" in the party who side with the GOP on issues such as spending cuts and tax relief for the rich. The Dems really need to tap into some raw populism these next few months if they want to mitigate some of the damage at the polls.
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I have a spot that even I have to get on a stool to get to. It's the last place anyone would look because no one wants to climb up to it. I also do it outside, either on the side of the house or take a quick stroll down the block. My bat looks like a cigarette so I arouse no suspicion. Got all bases covered my friend.
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do you really think they care about how they leave this earth or what state its in.<P>they are greddy to the bone and are more thena willing to die off rich and comfortable than worry about the rest of us..<P>that wont be their problem...itll be the younger generations problem..<P>its like those annoying brats on reality shows who wont do some chores in their shared house..someone else will do it for me..<P>fuck that.
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They just have different holidays...Ramadan vs Christmas...<p>http://tinyurl.com/2dqt9of
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Sept. 2, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST
i just wish obama would report this from the white house..
by Six Demon Bag
OKAY FELLAS..THIS IS WHAT IM GONNA DO..IM GONNA ERASE EVERYTHING THAT BUSH AND HIS DADDY DID AND PRETEND LIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED. ITS 1998 AGAIN BITCHES! MAZEL MAZEL!!<P>YOU DONT LIKE IT, DONT VOTE FOR ME, BUT IM SICK OF COMPROMISING WITH PEOPLE WHO ARENT GIVING ANY BACK. FUCK EM! BAMA OUT!!
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And then they bitch and moan about passing the debt on to their grandchildren ... only to mock policies that will actually reduce the long-term debt while leaving the place in a little better shape.
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HHHHHAAAAA!!!! That should DEFINITELY be the Obama Campaign's re-election slogan...
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needs an Andrew Shepherd moment.
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about ending combat operations was nice and low-key. I didn't like the banner/aircraft carrier hype of George Bush. <P> Some news report was saying Obama stumbled on his speech regarding end of combat ops. WTH?
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It's a wiki site. There are hundreds of contributors. It's not just one guy.
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oil sheen surrounding the platform that blew today.
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On ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES <P> Is this the one with the futuristic buildings where the humans have the humanoid chimps as slaves?
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Sept. 2, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST
Obama's in the phase of his presidency where everything
by ColonelFatheart
he does is subject to derision, ST. Meh. It happens to all of 'em. Only, his opposition is largely a gaggle of flaming loonies placated by a corporate-owned media complex all too willing to play the false-equivocation game.
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or it could be oil gushing like me blowing my load looking at syndee steele.
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just strange to document his life. Almost like high school teasing or something.
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Got my SANDMAN (and acilliar minis/specials), HITMAN, PREACHER, My Joe Lansdale HAP & LEONARD books, AKIRA, HP Lovecraft books, Christopher Moore, and BONE. Soooo much good reading! <p> Flicka, on the Sandman covers....McKean did a LITTLE interior art, but it doesn't really matter. The covers, for the most part, aren't really "comic-booky". A lot of 'em were things like 3-D collages he put together & photographed, things like that. They are ART. As a matter of fact, I actually bought the book DUST COVERS, which is just a book of all the SANDMAN covers. Beautiful stuff. No poop.
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Palin might be considering running for President... <P> BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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Obama calling out GOPers on voting against unemployment benefits extensions = Limbaugh saying that "Imam Obama" is our first anti-American Muslim president. <p>"Both sides do it."
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Sept. 2, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST
STL, no, that is Conquest of the Planet of the Apes...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
I like it too, but not as much as Escape..
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ESCAPE is modern day..(mid 70s) and three apes crash land...you are thinking of CONQUEST..
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Maybe I'll have to see ESCAPE then to dust off the memory banks. <P> I get those two confused.
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an onslaught of APES knowledge!
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She is a bigger trainwreck than anyone out there. There are sheep that would vote for her, but my god I could not see anyone thinking she would be a good president, or anything else for that matter.
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i really recommend that we watch this one again folks..its good..im prolly gonna watch them all for old times sake..<P>i marathoned right afte lil demon was born and then on FMC they played every damned APES thing they had..even the TV movies (resconstructed form the series)...
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I always get confused as the right-wing haters keep switching on what faith he belongs to.
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http://tinyurl.com/yww7oz <P> He has an article on there, like most internet failures, but he discovered his and made a response video in late 2007. Ever since then, the trolling has been non-stop. Trolling of this magnitude is above high school teasing, though. It's an art form.
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Split the vote. And I'll be grabbing the popcorn.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 12:42 p.m. CST
i will move out of this country is Palin is elected..
by Six Demon Bag
seriously.
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Anybody read Ebert's little entreaty to thinking people regarding the Tea Party, and specifically the little 'get-together' being planned for Alaska on 09/11? Gaaaaaaaah!!!! <p> He calls out all the conservative talking heads who like to imply Obama is muslim & hates America, without really SAYING it. Asks 'em to put up or shut up. Say exactly what they mean and BACK IT UP. It's a good read.
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I just need to revisit. I'm a fan of CONQUEST, too. There's some good dystopian shit going on in that one.
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she didnt even finish her term in office as governor..and its not like obama leaving his office to become president (which happens all the time).<P>this whore left to follow the buck and to escape investigation. plain and simple.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 12:46 p.m. CST
Xactly, Sixes...Palin is a money/power hungry WHORE...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
in the truest sense of the word...
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well put..<P>and just like those instigators like rush and glenn beck who feign ignorance.."im just an entertainer, dont believe what i say" shit..<P>mind you glenn beck is the biggest shill of them all cause he jumped ship from CNN when the money was flaunted in front of him and went to FOX. "yes sir, i will say what you write"
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Yes, Fuzz, I read that piece. Ebert is a national treasure.
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movies. So this will be a struggle just to watch it.
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You would too if you had to clean Harrys socks
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Sept. 2, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST
And, both Escape and Conquest had the immortal...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
Ricardo Montalban...and his fine Corinthian leather...
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thats like an exploitation flick..kill whitey!<P>seriously that is whatll happen if Palin is elected.
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Kahn led the Ape revolt...
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Don't kid yourself. She may try to give a conservative appearance, but she has plenty of teabaggers rubbing their crotches under the table when she is up giving a speech.
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http://tinyurl.com/26thbg5
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Sept. 2, 2010, 12:53 p.m. CST
If memory serves....(SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT SEEN ALL THE APES MO
by rogueleader66
The ape revolt began when Armando was killed and Caesar got pissed, and that's when he went....sorry...apeshit.
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I haven't seen any of the 'real' Apes movies in YEARS. They're damned and dirty.
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I heard the rimshot in the background
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Sept. 2, 2010, 12:57 p.m. CST
Corinthian leather my ass!! that was gorilla finely tanned
by leo54304
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Sept. 2, 2010, 12:58 p.m. CST
Yeah, Sixes...love that article about the song...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
reminds me when John Mellencamp told McCain to stop using "Little Pink Houses" in his campaign cause he had no idea what it was saying...
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I do get in a good one every now and then.
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yeah, theres a bunch of semi literate apes running wild, but they are slower than zombies on Zanex...and the corporation guys all had fully automatic weapons...I'm sure I could have mowed down the lot of those damn dirty apes with enough ammo...
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I 'member it ALL, daddy. <p> Boys, stop cryin'. I don't want you to cry for me NO MORE. Let it turn to somethin' else.
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to its misappropriation. <p>I think it's one of the key reasons Bruce himself has been playing it in more acoustic-flavored arrangements in recent years.
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Both are misinterpreted by many due to their co-opting of popular bombastic styles to convey ironic messages.
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Lets see, we've got tanks, flame throwers, helicopters, tear gas, machine gun turrets, etc. Nahhh, lets not use any of that stuff. I swear those guys were the french army.
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Not me. I KNOW it costs a buck o'fieeeeve.
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Aliens vs the Planet of the Apes...set between POTA and Beneath...<p>"No matter who wins...the planet is still going to explode..."
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To screw in a light bulb?<P>Three....one dirty stinking ape to screw it in and two dirty stinking apes to throw feces at each other..hee hee hee<P>As told by Peter Griffin, in a net, surrounded by apes.....
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Jungle love, its driving me crazy..
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Good quote there Fuzzman!
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Sept. 2, 2010, 1:11 p.m. CST
Then, in Escape, the three apes come back in time...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
and unknown to them, an Alien Xenomorph has hitched a ride and is unleashed in 1970's America...
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If only zey were an army of leetle froggies! Zen we would eat zem!
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that scene gets me EVERY freakin' time. I think 'cause he reminds me so much of my dear ol' dad. He'd prolly say the same thing to. <p> AVENGE ME! AVEEEENGE ME!!!
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Damn dude I work at a library and you made me laugh so loud just now they heard me in the back office!
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No humor in the liberry! <p> Laughing is for the classroom.
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...translate the lyrics to Born In The USA for him...so I did.<P> When I was finished, I handed him the piece of paper, and he read the lyrics. Then he read them again...<P> Finally he looked up and said, "ma......<P> He was speechless.
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It was 5 to 1 I got 4<P>Powers Boothe was awesome in that.
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They just were not expecting it. This particular library is really small and really quiet.
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On floor number 2
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In disbelief that such an American anthem could be so bitter and angry?
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Keeps me warm. <p> Ol' Robert was cold ass killing machine. Until he decided to take on a giant heli with an AK-47. No dice Robert. Enjoy these .50 cal rounds. <p> Lead....it's what's for brunch.
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in RED DAWN was the fact that Toni would still be alive AT ALL after taking that round to the chest. Her spine should have been all over that crate of oranges.
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So what if he does? You don't
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Sept. 2, 2010, 1:30 p.m. CST
...well, he was/is a smart guy, so I think that at first...
by FlickaPoo
...he was shocked to learn that it wasn't a straightforward patriotic anthem. Then he was surprised that such a song would be so popular in America...then he questioned that assumption. Then he went back to see if he was missing something in the lyrics...then he started wondering about the apparent attitude of Americans as they responded to the song...did they understand it? Were they being ironic? <P> I think the whole thing just wasn't adding up.
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Maybe when you get older, you'll know these things. Now get up here, and PISS in the radiator.
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Robert was a stone cold PSYCHO by the time that happened to him, he either thought he could actually do something against the gunship, or just flat out wanted to die. Either way he was fucking nuts by that point. Not that you could blame him.<P>You know what Fuzzman? As unbelievable as the movie was, I think you would be surprised what people can accomplish in times of absolute desperation.
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i always thought the scene where they killed their friend cause hes a fucking traitor! i always thought that was hardcore.<P>id like to see that scene in the remake.
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most of the folks I knew who loved it just seemed to focus on the "Born in the USA" bits, not the verses themselves. But then again, we were young way back then. <p> I knew it weren't no flag-waving, patriotic anthem. I could just sort of FEEL the anger...especially after I saw him do it live once or twice on the teevee.
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wasn't necessarily what it was perceived to be. I think it was the lines about the narrator being turned away at the refinery and the VA man saying, "Son, don't you understand?"
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think it's pure macho jingo bullshit. I try to tell them, no, actually listen to the words, but it's all to no avail.
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it was stone-cold Robert that pulled the trigger. Just another day at the office for him. <p> Rogueman--Robert's total transformation over the course of the film is definitely one of the highlights, along with just how much the brothers really LOVE each other to the bitter end. That scene on the park bench in the snow kills me. "Daddy's gonna be here soon."
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yeah the presidents willing to do that!!
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Now that's a fucking man.
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thats just a smoke screen to block the fuck up of the previous admin.
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Another group I've found that gets horribly misunderstood is 10,000 maniacs. I had a few friends back in the college days who were all "I love 10,000 Maniacs. Their music is so sweet." <p> I was all "Have you actually LISTENED to what she's saying? Sweet isn't usually a word I'd associate there."
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...heavy-handed themes in a RED DAWN remake these days...<P> I just wish the producers hadn't found it necessary to kill Patrick Swayze as a marketing stunt.
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http://tinyurl.com/yco6llx
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Right on all points bro. Despite its out there premise, it's truly a powerful film. I think it may even be kind of underrated. Damn, Jed...could be some of the best acting Patrick Swayze has ever done, and it was not even close to being his biggest hit.
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He made two of the TOUGHEST movies ever with Conan & Red Dawn. Just all-out GUTS. <p> Man, we are getting soooo wussified over the last 2 decades.
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that was heartlessly hilarious. A 'marketing stunt'. <p> Hey! Now no VFX needed for GHOST 2!
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What's next? You going rip open some scabs by bringing up the sad state of C. Thomas Howell's career?
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Hollywood needs to get its balls back, the wuss factor is quite high these days.<P>Maybe we should send THE_CHOPPAH to straighten them out, or at the very least scare the shit out of them.
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What does that make you? <p> Alone, I guess.
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we're on the cusp of a MANNISH renaissance. What with THE EXPENDABLES doing pretty well, who can say?
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... and wrote the Indianapolis monologue for JAWS, if I'm not mistaken.
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I was just catching up. Up until now Subs was the only other Pebrew I Tagged Up. Cheers.<p>"Ok, but be smart, brother...and try to get my fucking stuff to me at some point."
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to let us SEE the action in action movies. I don't need to FEEL LIKE I'M THERE, I wanna see the stuff these guys train months for, and the stunt team spends hours choreographing. <p> Man, if I was a fight guy these days, I'd be PISSED that all the stuff I spend my time on is all shaky-blurry and indecipherable.
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wearing his husky cargo pants and drinking Fago.
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That wrote most of that speech. Shaw was also a novelist and a playwright, so it's possible, but no one really knows for certain.
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we delivered the bumb.
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the Indianapolis?
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"Shit's Fucked Up Hospital..."
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Sept. 2, 2010, 2:01 p.m. CST
Mac, I saw you mentioned earlier that early scene in JAWS
by ColonelFatheart
when Brody's on an "important" phone call. It's not just that the domestic details in the background aren't really in the background, Michael is talking to Ellen about going out on the water or something, thus establishing early on that the Chief is not doing this simply out of duty, but to protect his family. What elegant storytelling.
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Also, it wasn't a rig that caught fire, but a production platform. I don't think they do drilling out there, but STILL.
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RED DAWN = good fuckin' movie.
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I actually do wanna see the remake, what with the whole Chiney angle and all. I love the beginning when they are in school watching the parachutes drop in. It is this slow building panic. The first time I saw the movie I really felt that part. Great visual. I bet in the remake the parachutes are CG. Fuck Hollywood.
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http://tinyurl.com/39gdjbf
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I just hope it ever sees the light of day.
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http://tinyurl.com/2ac9dkk<p>The man speaks truth...
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that is just pathetic. Some people are just shit.
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I always admired that choice with the 2 conversations. I'm sure there are plenty of examples. The other kind of similar "choice" like that is in Reservoir Dogs. The scene when Mr. White and Mr. Orange go to the bathroom to clean up, smoke and try to figure out what is going on. QT intentionally leaves the camera at the far end of the hallway. Harvey and Steve are freaking out down the hall and through a doorway and we (as the viewer) are left 20 feet away from the scene. Only after watching the movie 2 or 3 times did I find myself saying, what the fuck, I wanna BE IN THERE. It is this desire he fills the viewer with just by simply keeping his distance with the camera. It drives you crazy with anticipation and tension.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST
Damn...Greece (?) knows how to give a weather forcast...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
http://tinyurl.com/2fp9bbd
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Colonel that shit is terrible.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 2:18 p.m. CST
I was just thinking about that the other day watching DOGS, Mac.
by ColonelFatheart
It's almost like the camera stands in for the audience: we want to be in there with them, experiencing this talk, but we're lingering near Mr. Orange.
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"Marchella's mother, Carlola Pierce, 30, told investigators she checked on her daughter about 4 a.m. and that she was fine, the sources said."<p>Yeah but, it was 4 a.m. three weeks ago...<p>Bitch needs to fry...
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The mother actually says she checked on here at 4am and she was fine? That's what that sick bitch calls fine? A 4 year old girl that weighs 15 fucking pounds?People who do that to children should be punished by having the exact same thing done to them, except, when they are close to death, bring them back to normal and do it<P>all<P>over<P>again<P>fucking low lifes don't deserve a quick death, they need to spend the rest of their pathetic lives experiencing what they did to the innocent kids they killed. Pure human fucking garbage.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 2:21 p.m. CST
...thank you for your interest, but we are not accepting...
by FlickaPoo
...any more crushingly depressing stories at this time...unless they involve beautiful boobies. In the unlikely event that you think you have a crushingly depressing story involving beautiful boobies, please stay on the line...a service representative will be with you shortly.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 2:22 p.m. CST
Colonel, it's shit like that that makes me miss Bill Hicks.
by Fuzzyjefe
He tole da troof! <p> Some folks just need to stop having kids: Don't love 'em! Don't want 'em! Can't feed 'em! <br> Plop.
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Outta here in about 7 minutes, then just gotta get thru tomorrow and it's three days off baby!
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Sept. 2, 2010, 2:23 p.m. CST
I'm sure it'll be a LAW & ORDER: SVU episode, though.
by ColonelFatheart
With loads of despair lighting.
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Aaaaaaand....bleakness.
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I just fell asleep in the driveway and he backed over me with the truuuuck. <p> He's passed out right now under the front porch with his dog, Skeeter!
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All this a'quotin' has led me to dig out mah copy of RED DAWN. Back later. <p> WOLVERINES!!!
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Only bad thing right now is my sister is not speaking to me. I wrote her a pretty scathing email a few days ago after she, once again, tried to tell me how to behave on Facebook. First off, she is younger than me, second off, I said nothing wrong, and third, she has done this one too many times.<P>So I wrote her an email telling her I was pissed off and instead of acting like my mother, be supportive and back me up instead of always telling me what NOT to do. I invited her to a little birthday thing for me for next weekend, and all she said was she couldn't make it. It may sound odd, but I could tell just by the tone of her email that she is pissed at me. Too bad.<P>Anyways, enough of that nonsense, it's time to go!!!!! I'll be back sometime later pebrews.<P>Peace and chicken grease/
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like when the camera turns its head and averts its eyes to avoid the "ear" scene.
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WOLVERIIIINES!!!
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WOLVERIIIIINES!!!!
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WOLVERIIIINES!!!!
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And when the other guy won't stop shouting and cussing and calling you names. <p>...<p> WOLVERIIIINES!!!
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WOLVERIIIINES!!!
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I hate getting into it with people at work cause you can't invest in the battle. You are fighting with one nut tied behind your back..<br><br><br>WOLVERIIIINES!!!!
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Its so sloppy, hard to work with, slow, you lose your train of thought, your momentum, and your auto-correct mispells things all the time. Ugh. Anyways...<p>...<p>...<p> WOLVERIIIINES!!
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MILIUS wrote an 8 page monologue and shaw whittled it down to 5..<P>he did one day where he recited wasted off his ass..and then asked speilberg to do it again the next day sober..nailed it.<P>last weekend there was ANOTHER doc on making JAWS..i can never get enough of those stories..
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Sept. 2, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST
Tanker carrying 2.4 million gallons of diesel runs aground
by ColonelFatheart
in Arctic. No word yet on potential spillage.
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Check out his galleries. There are a few surprises in there (one NSFW).
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http://tinyurl.com/2fz9tev
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Sept. 2, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST
...this is getting ridiculous. I think 2010 is the year...
by FlickaPoo
...oil becomes sentient and decides to break free from human built containment facilities.<P> YOU WILL NOT BURN US FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE. WE WILL NO LONGER BE CONTAINED. WE ARE OIL, YOU HAVE MEANS FOR EAT ME!
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I recited that monologue for my Directing the Actor class in college. That was fun/nerve-wracking. <p> Also, I saw that 2 hour JAWS doc on the History Channel last week. Well, I didn't see it, but it's dvrd for when I actually have time to watch. Looked interesting. And on the History Channel of all places for a 2 he doc on my favorite movie!<p> Makes one want to stand up and say... <p>WOLVERIIIINES!!!
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our dependence on foreign oil...
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...I thought a wedding photographer was by definition someone who works at Kinko's and also owns a camera.
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...in his portfolio!!!!
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to stop sniffing GLUE.
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Quit trying to change the subject, you commie Russian spy...
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is the NSFW hidden amongst links or on the front page?
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he is king of oil!!
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machete--B<P>the american--C<P>going the distance--B+
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http://tinyurl.com/38kw37d
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Still ... PISS OFF.
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What a stupid way for Denise Crosby to die...
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i need photos!!!
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Not on the front page.
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i need photos!!!
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He's going for speed.<P> She's all alone...all alone in her time of need.<br> <br> Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course<P> He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse<P> He's going the distance ♫♪
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I was selling wee d to this band and we were listening to the opening act playing upstairs and the guitarist kept saying, "Sounds like someone has been listening to a little Yngwie." That band was great(opening act,and my buyers also). Instrumental metal outfit. BML (indicative of obnoxious behavior). No wonder I liked them.
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yeah thats the one i watched..on JAWS..<P>ive heard it all before but its still nice to hear..
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I am in good company!
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http://www.willblochinger.com/main.php
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re TINY URL it..<P>that first one aint working for me!
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http://tinyurl.com/34xfpzl
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It was a shoot for High Times. The photog said when he showed up for the shoot, he was about knocked on his ass from the potency of the contact high.
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http://tinyurl.com/34xfpzl
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i thought my photo girl was good..<P>you got a good guy.
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http://tinyurl.com/fo2r7
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We wanted nice shots and nice albums, and my DF's parents are splitting the cost on the photography with us.
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and the misfits!
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Me want.
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The Joey Ramone one just depressed the shit out of me though. Good thing I'm already drinking. Those pics are awesome, specially the ones with the lady parts.
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Damn you!!!
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...at The Shelter, of course.
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forget her name. Jenna Jameson did her. where is leo when I need him.
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i was up at 330am and in bed by 900.
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Repo Men with Jude Law<br><br>or<br><br>Sark with Burt Reynolds<p>Both showed up today.
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what the fuck is sark?
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...I see a lonely, mangy looking chicken...weeping softly in a dark corner?
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According to this...if you don't drink...YOU DIE!!!!<p>http://tinyurl.com/39ndb2p
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dun dun da duh<p>dun dun da duh<p>(Price is Right theme)<p>Featuring misspellings and general stupidity<br><br>dun dun dadadadadada dun dun da duh
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I think with all the Jaws talk today I gotta watch Shark. No?
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...the chicken isn't crying. Maybe the Colonel sees her lingering in the parking lot outside the church before the ceremony...and arranges for her to be an honorary bridesmaid...<P> Maybe this is the happiest day of that chicken's life.
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now pplaying on cinemagic!
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The FUCKING OCEAN!!!!!!!!
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Sept. 2, 2010, 3:43 p.m. CST
I always get the 'Burbs and Neighbors confused...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
for some reason...<p>I love them both...
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the Vader USB drive on the side of the article.
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no more BLUE BEETLE show?<P>i know someone who'll be happy..
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Thanks for being so prolific on a day that's seriously light on work for me. Now I gotta refresh and re-catchup. <P> WOLVERIIIINES!!!
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Jumped up Jesus on a carousel, can RPLocke just fuck the fuck off with his inane commentary? Choppah too. <P> Leave us in peace, gaw dammit!
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The very epitome of cruel and unusual punishment.
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If Palin gets elected, that's it. It'll be Canada or Australia for me.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 4:09 p.m. CST
...don't limit yourself to English speaking countries, Ted...
by FlickaPoo
...as long as you have an internet connection, the world is your pudendaful Pedalback!
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Bomb squad checking it out ...
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Sept. 2, 2010, 4:11 p.m. CST
Hey, Teddy..you get any of this rain down your way?
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
sure cooled things off around here...
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"Fox 5 News reported that police removed a suitcase from the car that had traces of blood inside of it. It also reported that a Koran was among the contents inside the car although police did not say that it had any relevance to the investigation."
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To our Occult Overlords, the date is numerologically the same as 9-11-2001...<p>Take the word of one who knows...
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nothing more opposite than the French. I don't look forward to the language but the no showering appeals to me.
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Let's all head to the Peach Pit!
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Just blistering heat. Keeping me from taking too many smoke breaks, at least...
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Sept. 2, 2010, 4:21 p.m. CST
Sucks, Ted...I was sure that storm was headed your way last nigh
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
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I know you're making the most of it.
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I'd organize large "Pee Parties" in which members would urinate and defecate and vomit upon Palin effigies. <BR><BR>And in 2014 and 2016, Democrats would win again in a landslide, thanks to the Pee party efforts.<BR><BR>Seriously, it's hard for me to believe that the majority of this country's population can seriously consider a party who are motivated and (increasingly being led by) tea baggin' nut jobs who scream "communist" and "socialist" without a clue as to what either word means.<BR><BR>We Americans are fickle as hell as a collective (and we have a VEEERY short political memory).
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relaxing stuff, that...<p>But, I do have weed...
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If I did, tho, I'd move to Amsterdam, no doubt. I'd be satisfied working as a janitor there.
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To New Zealand. Far away from the bad shit. Nice people. Beautiful land. And no one hates the Kiwis really.
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My favorite scene from the best Star Trek ever. Truly, Shatner's finest moment. <P> "Like a poor marksman, you keep missing the target."-Puts a smile on my face every goddamn time.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST
Fishus...I have already seen things I would have never imagined.
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
in politics in my lifetime. Chief among them a President threatened with impeachment over a blow job and the U.S. hoodwinked into going to war AS THE INVADER over fictitious weapons of mass destruction.
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Glenn Beck for VP!!!!
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http://tinyurl.com/2fhonhk <BR><BR>All over again...
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remember to dress warm and bring your bongs...
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I swear to God, some conservative idiots see a communits/socialist plot everywhere.
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I'd deal with my fear of flying for that shit.
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I watched it with my fiancee, who had never seen it. In fact, I hadn't seen it in years at that point. Once the Spock funeral came on, with the bagpipes version of Amazing Grace and all, I lost it. Usually I can contain my tears, but man, I let rip. I shocked myself. It reminded me too much of my grandfather's funeral.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST
Teddy...fear of flying...listen to this if you can...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC0yfREBxWw
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Just hang on Matty. Daddy's gonna be here soon. <p> Heartstrings....tugged. At the same time, bloodlust sated. It's a strange combo.
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I've shed some tears now in my office at work re-watching it. <BR><BR>Such a beautifully constructed scene.<BR><BR>Too bad they had to waste a wonderful film death on the insipid SEARCH FOR SPOCK (which uses a form of the horribly cliché, yet tried and true comic book resurrection shtick).
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Sept. 2, 2010, 4:45 p.m. CST
i think my wife would laugh at me if i cried during a trek film.
by Six Demon Bag
i was tearing up in the beginning of the newTrek..when george was hearing his boy..all the while on a collision course for glory!<P>shit there was even a few eps of TNG that got me..THE INNER LIGHT and LOWER DECKS for some reason..always..<P>i know, imma lil bitch.
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The beginning of the newTrek got to me too. It was a beautiful, tragic moment, and a big part of the reason I let so much of the stupid shit later in the movie slide.
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the girl running through the field, nowhere to run to..you think the russians are gonna get her...<P>BUT NO!!!!! underground bunkers!!!! <P>WAY TO GO DALLAS!!!!
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Sept. 2, 2010, 4:49 p.m. CST
And Sixies, here's how Asi will respond to that post:
by ColonelFatheart
"Are you fucking kidding me, Mr Demon Bag? The only tear I shed druing Jar Jar Abrams SHIT TREK abortion was for the crimes being commited to the act of narrotive storytelling. My god man! Save your tears for a lgitimate fucking cinematic experence. Shit even something like MARMADUKE would be more worth your tear!"
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http://tinyurl.com/2c5kxql
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true and true
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possible catastrophic failure of our exchange server... <P> Gonna be a loong night.
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But I'll try to get back to it later tonight.
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on Eric "commies are eveywhere" Zahn. Maybe he's the bastard child of Frank Burns.
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...that kind of thing always does now A.C. (after child).<P> I wonder if I'll get over it eventually...or if it's a permanent condition?
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complete with misspelling.
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See you cats later...
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It appears the Ten Rings have successfully infiltrated Starfleet.
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drops us like a bad habit...<P>i feel so..so..cuckholded.
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This lady needs to go down in flames: <p>http://tinyurl.com/2dmsop4
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...because that is what J. Jiffy fucking Lube® Abrams did. He removed all the vitality, all the creativity, yes all the balls.<P> Hey! This is fun!
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The Mandarin was on Kirk Sr.'s ship?
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Sept. 2, 2010, 5:19 p.m. CST
Colonel, that's her story and she's sticking to it...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
If I were her I would go on the news and hold up a severed head on television and yell, "SSSSEEEE!!!!"<p>She looked like she was on medication..
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I guess I'll have to watch that one too, when I get home...
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...but it can't be good.
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at her..
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The captain of Starship Whateveritwas that went over to see the Hulk was the Ten Rings dude that got his face all burnt & Stane later killed in Iron Man the First.
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they are saying she has dementia and that perhaps she has suffered a beheading..
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How many times have I mentioned that I can't do vids or sound on my work computer? I just mentioned it like an hour ago.
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i thought it was the bad guy from 24 season 4?
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I can't recall that dude's face at all. Guess I'll take your word for it.
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The Ten Rings are everyfuckinwhere!
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hates freedom.
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Sorry if I snapped at ya. Been fighting a hangover all day. All week, actually. Been a little down...
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It's cool. Keep fuckin' that hangover.
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Mother FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKK!
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my buds(pun intended)are hard core stoners and I should be able to get in on some serious mooching. It is a mini vaca too so GF prolly won't give me any shit. If I even mention it.check this out...<p>http://tinyurl.com/2fhonhk <p><br><br>just kidding Ted. I posted that shit earlier. I s just fuxin with you.
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Eminem auditioned for the role of The Riddler in Nolan's next Batman flick.
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DEATH TO SMOOCHY. It always is.
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now there's an actual CHOPPAH clone with a zero in the name? <p> Jesus, how can we ask for originality from hollywood when geeks have none of their own? HOW?
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Intriguing...<p>Would he rap? Cause, I don't want any part of that...
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so far some damn good knife fighting. Me likey.
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Riddle-dee-diddle for da big bad bat!
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I'm in the hunt for some bud, too.
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Friday can't get here soon enough. Until tomorrow, Peebs ...<p>...<p>...keep smokin' that chicken!
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I hadn't noticed it is so subtle...<p>The REAL CHOPPAH is gonna be pissed...
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TASERING a 64-year-old man...in HIS OWN HOME...because he refused to get in an ambulance to go to the hospital? He had collapsed in his home, the deputies were INFORMED he had a heart condition...he didn't want to go because he didn't have insurance & said he couldn't afford it. <p> So they tasered his ass after he told 'em 'Fuck you'. BASTARDS!
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Watch out for El Guapo.
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Ted commented on it first. But I transfer the props you gave me over to Ted.
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"You WILL die like dogs."
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I loved mixed movie references.
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I loved mixed movie references.
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No, the lips will be fine.
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Sorry, you guys without weed...don't be hatein'...
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I merely await new employment & my first paycheck. Then I, too will be back on the green wagon. <p> BIG TIME.
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Longest dry stretch for me in a LONG time. I am a dedicated stoner. But I've been getting so wasted out at the bars this week that I just go home and collapse in bed after watching the opening credits to HOUSE OF THE DEVIL. My latest obsession.
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Have you ever noticed that in the beginning of SPIES LIKE US, Chevy's watching an old musical with Ronald Reagan and when it's onscreen the line "Lovin you, on your old veranda" can be heard? Surely that was the genesis of that gag in THREE AMIGOS, right? Both Landis/Chevy collaborations...
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I've seen THREE AMIGOS & SPIES LIKE US way too many times.
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in House of the Devil. The stand out seen for me.<p>You son of a motherless goat.
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Tonight, or I will KILL her!
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Lookuphere Lookuphere.
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when I babysit her. My little Buttercup and....I don't know the name of the other one but I know all the words.<br><br>♪ ♫Bluuuuuuue shadows on the trail...♪ ♫
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Sept. 2, 2010, 6:26 p.m. CST
I might see Avatar ULTIMATE SPECIAL DELUXO 3D GAGA Edition today
by anonymoose
I'll let you guys know how creepy the extended sex scene is.
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you<p>have<p>got it.<br><br><br>..and..AAAH!<p>true story.
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since the cold war ended. But damn, your eagle eyes and bat ears pick up all kindsa stuff, don't they?
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HEY YOU GUYS! <P> Quite possibly the funniest thing I've ever seen in a movie. Literally never fails to elicit STRONG laughter from me.
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That and my sense of humor are, I believe, my defining traits. Oh, and my percieved superiority to nearly everone I meet. That's pretty strong too.
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as they ride around whooping, tosssing their guns from hand to hand, laughing... <p> It's the little things for me <p> I think it's a mail plane.
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you stinker. <p> I'm pretty much the go-to guy on movies in my circles, but I see I have much to learn. <p> But wait!! I spied the Ten Rings in J-Trek! <p> I'll take that one small victory.
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Don't shoot any invisible swordsmen.
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on the secrets of getting all the Spanish special punctuation marks? Like in pinata?
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fa-haaaaar-ley!
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It's like beer.
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"Do you have anything that isn't fattening?" <p> "Fattenise?"
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http://www.tedmontgomery.com/tutorial/altchrc.html<P> It might be weird doing it on a laptop though...
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There it is. <P> And I love that Chevy never really seems to get it, but laughs anyway so as not to seem stupid.
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...to get that link.<P> He won it good.
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[Falsetto] "Probably watered down." <P> I use both of these lines whenever I'm doing a shot of anything.
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...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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...on SPIES LIKE US.
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"They must have trouble getting gigs."
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Ha-haaaaa! I haaaave the powaaaaah! <p> Oh Flicka, yer my heeee-ro.
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...in white-out by the end of 4th period study hall.
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That gets lettered with glittery stars, surrounded by a heart made with sparkly hearts. <p> FlickaPoo, there's only you <br> the things you do <br> your < P >owers true <br> I can stop sniffing glue <br> All thanks to you....knowledgable Flicka of Poooooooooooo!
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the secrets to the masses. I'm like Jesus.
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You are BUS-ted!
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...on your binder in sparkles...<P>Sigh.
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You, too are my HEEEEE-ro. Though I know not why. <p> I do not seek details, so you may hide your secret shame.
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You.....you dislike SANDMAN? <p> Now, I ask out of curiosity, knowing that not everyone likes the same things....but why?
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I guess because it's so universally lauded, my kneejerk reaction was to dislike it. Honestly, I've never read any of it, and it's here on the shelves for me to read for free. I like Neil Gaiman's novels, but the art in Sandman just puts me off. Also, as I've said, I'm more of a tights n fights kinda guy for the most part. <P>So, in summation, the art and the heaps of praise are probably the two factors that keep me from reading or enjoying it.
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But I finally sucked it up and read the first trade. And then I got hooked. You should give it a shot like I did. And that original artist leaves early on too.
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Thought I had someone in my corner for a minute. <P>But nooooooo, I have to irrationially hate Sandman all by myself. Maybe someday I'll check it out. If nothing else, it'd give me something to talk to geek chicks about.
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Sept. 2, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST
...I'm going to have to give it another shot at some point...
by FlickaPoo
...Scary is on GIANT 12LB. SANDMAN BOOK COLLECTION VOL.2 right now, and loving it.<P> I find it nearly impossible to ignore anything she's very enthusiastic about...with the notable exception of the TV show HOUSE.
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...and the panels didn't flow or something...the whole thing was really visually irritating.
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fir much the same reasons you gave...<p>I'm a tights and fights guy too...<p>Daughter is reading the first trade now and gushing about it...But, she still hasn't convinced me...I'm a busy guy...
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I thought I was the only person on Earth that hadn't read it! Yay, Flick!
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I irrationally dislike Sandman cause it looked weird, not heroy enough for me and generally not my cup of tea. Oh and it was not Marvel. I pretty much shy away from anything non Marvel. Irrational. See.
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In one of the early issues of the book. It was about same time death was introduced. <br> <br> Serial killers convention issue was funny as it had panels for the attendees to participate in and a rule that had to be followed: No killing 3 days before or after the convention (Or something like that) within 50 miles. Course someone couldn't fight the urge.
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I won't give you any grief. It really picks up at the end of the first trade, with the 24 HOURS story...that is some MESSED..UP...SHIT in there. <p> And as for the art...Kelley Jones, Michael Kaluta, Charles Vess, Bryan Talbot, Jill Thompson, and Mark Hempel all contribute later. There is some GORGEOUS stuff. I'll admit I don't like a lot of the stuff early on, especially the Sam Kieth issues.
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Flick said he had a prize if anyone would reveal an embarrassing story about themselves. I told the tale of when I was in co-ed gym class and got pantsed, sweats and underwear all. After correcting my situation I proceeded to chase, tackle and begin the process of removing the kids jeans(who the fuck wears jeans to gym class). Only after the teacher forcibly rmoved me from the kid did I realize just how gay trying to take a dudes pants off was. Blind rage is a hell of a thing. Anyway...enjoy your tilde.
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I'm still waiting for my roomie to bring home the new Secret Warriors, tho. I got all excited after seeing your rave review on here, but since neither of us pick up as many titles anymore, it'll prolly be another week before he gets it...
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Much obliged.
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they tried their best to get me to read Sandman, but, I reasoned, I had to save something to look forward to...<p>But, really, I'm not that into comics about gods and metaphysical embodiments...Have the same problem with Thor and the Eternals and even Kirby's New Gods...
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...you were so mad you attacked him before rectifying the situation...you were fightin' nude like Viggo!
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I like mutants and freaks and aliens and biological accidents being the source of my hero origins. Hey..irrational, it's the default reason.
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You have your version<br><br><br>I have mine<br><br>never the two shall meet
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by a radioactive something, something...
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And for all you capes-n-tights guys: turns out that the old JLA villain Dr Destiny's power crystal thingy was actually Dream's ruby; he had transferred a lot of his power into it. That was how the Dr could affect dreams. <p> Ol' Morpheus actually visits Scott Free & the Martian Manhunter in an early issue for some info as he is trying to reclaim his property.
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...and cheering with excitement and bloodlust.
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The most poorly drawn J'onn J'onzz I've ever seen. In fact, I'm gonna go take another look just to confirm that.
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that's ol' Sam Kieth for you. I can take his VERY stylized stuff on THE MAXX, but his work on established characters is TEH SUCK.
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Sorry.
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He did do a decent one-off issue of the Incredible Hulk that had Mr.Fixit (gray hulk)squaring off against Mr.Hyde on a train. But his style sorta fit the mood of the story, and this was a few years after his Sandman stuff, I believe.
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Almost as bad as Gene Day and Carmine Infantino...
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except his Dracula stuff...
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I would love to see a movie based on that. Just call it Mr. Fixit with no reference to The Hulk. Yup..awesomness.
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That del Toro wants Tom Cruise for ATMOM, but Universal wants James Mcavoy. Interesting tidbit.
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god stuff, I did like when Hulk fought with The Pantheon. That was a fun arc.
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Sixies...you aint a lil bitch, I have shed tears during movies when you wouldn't think a person would, but fuck it we are movie geeks..DO NOT JUDGE US!!!!!!<P>Had a great dinner, Mrs Rogue made baked bbq chicken, rice pilaf and green beans...yum to the max my friends.<P>Saving Red Dawn for the weekend, gonna try to watch a bunch of movies.<P>Hoping Earl passes Long Island, or at the very least, unleashes minimal wrath upon our island.<P>To all those who are high...I will be soon!!! Not tonight, but within 5 days or so I will have me stash! Whooo hoo!
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But then again, almost no one though he could pull off Lestat, and the fucker knocked that one outta the park, so who knows. McEvoy was good in Wanted, so I could see it. Will be interesting to see where they go with that.
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here is the KY<br><br>I'm out gents. Camping this weekend so I'll prolly be around in the a.m. and then high as fuck all weekend. Keep in touch with yourselves.
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Gonna check out a sale at my local comic store! Later gang.
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THAT'S what I call a camp fire!
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Sept. 2, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST
Hi, Rogueman...Enjoy the stratosphere, Macster...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
Stay HIGH, my friend...
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MEANWHILE....at the HALL of JUStice!
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Watch out for Sandmen...
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Sept. 2, 2010, 8:19 p.m. CST
What are we gonna do with this worn out chicken, Fuzzy?
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
I mean its already featherless...
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I'm not sure I wanna touch that chicken. I know where it's been.
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I'm tired of sloppy featherless seconds.
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Last story had first appearance of Gaimans version of Death. Wonderful exchange between Sandman and Death.<br> <br> The Doll House TPB has the serial killer convention story Ted.
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Anybody know where Colonel Keeps the fresh chickens?
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Sandman 18 might provide the answer.
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...magician style...
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I would suppose.
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It paints a better picture anyway. <p> Ta-daaaah! Cluck-gulp!
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...but tonight I'm having leftover porterhouse steak and DW's nearly full bottle of leftover champagne.<P> Let's hear it for leftovers!
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he had it twice!
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For leftovers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Even leftover Pizza is good...
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in MAHBELLY!
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Wrong!! It was the Girl Cant help it!!
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May be back, may be not. Who can say?
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