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Capone talks for 5 minutes to Robert Rodriguez about his bloody show MACHETE!!!

Published at:  Aug 31, 2010 10:37:11 AM CDT


Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here.

Since I just interviewed Robert Rodriguez earlier this year for PREDATORS, it seems silly to reintroduce him to you, since you already know his exceptional body of work. All I would have to add to this fairly short discussion was that it took place at the tail end of a monster party at San Diego Comic-Con, during which uncensored, grotesque footage from MACHETE was unveiled. The reaction was great, and Rodriguez was clearly delighted with the response. The reason our talk was so short was that he was on the verge of hopping in a car to catch a plane, so we didn't have a lot of time. But it was great to see him twice in one year after never having met the man in my 12 years at Ain't It Cool News.

Please enjoy Robert Rodriguez, talking about his good friend Danny Trejo and the little movie they made together called MACHETE…



Capone: So, the last time I talked to you, we didn’t even touch on MACHETE, and I don’t know why we didn’t.

Robert Rodriguez: I probably wasn’t prepared to. I was so busy working on PREDATORS. Can I just say that J.J. Abrams was here watching the footage.

Capone: Really? That's great. We just got here in time to see it.

RR: I had shot MACHETE, but I hadn’t finished editing it. All of my crew was working on PREDATORS, so it was just me and my sister [Rebecca Rodriguez] literally editing this together and only now finishing it. It’s really coming out awesome though.

Capone: Yeah, the footage was so much more over the top that I thought it was going to be, but I don’t know why I’m surprised.

RR: [laughs] It’s not always like that. The tone shifts a lot, and that’s early on and there are some really fantastical stuff. Out of context, you are going to think that it’s like that the whole time. There are some really great moments in the movie.

Capone: Yeah.

RR: To show his resourcefulness and then every time he does something from then on, you’ve got that prehistory, so it’s really cool.

Capone: Danny [Trejo] said that you have actually been talking about this with him for a long time. Tell me about your relationship. You are that director-actor combo now that a lot of filmmakers dream about, and you have got to have that shorthand.

RR: Yeah, we’ve got such a shorthand. I was just doing ADR with him the other day, and I said something and he goes… He told the other guys in the room, “When Robert says we’re done, we’re done.” [laughs] I said, “That’s right.” I forgot I had worked with him on like eight or nine movies. We are so hooked up together by that, but it was always like that. We always had a connection. He really is a great way for me to voice things through him and in this movie especially, he’s his most Clint Eastwood in this movie. He really gets to stand front and center and be this very iconic, doesn’t say much. He's mostly an action-and-not-words-type guy.

Capone: What made you think now was the right time to put him in his own film? Was it the trailer and the reaction to the trailer, or was it even before that?

RR: Well, we had always talked about it, even after DESPERADO. I always thought he had that presence, because I saw people respond to him so much. Whenever we made a movie, anywhere we would go together, people would flock to him, even if they didn’t know he was in a movie before, they would flock to him. There was something about this aura he has. You wish you could find that in people, because if you expand that on a big screen, it only just screams out at you. So, I had always wanted to do that. I never thought that we would get around to it. I thought once we did the trailer, and it got such a big response that that was it, that that was the catharsis of the project, and we probably would never make a movie to top that, but people wanted it so much.

More than SIN CITY 2, people would ask me “Are you ever going to make MACHETE?” to the point that I realized that if that ever happens to you as a filmmaker, it’s a complete blessing, especially in this world of remakes and reboots and stuff. So to have an original character that suddenly gets snapped from you in a way, because it belongs to them now. They have taken it and they want it, it’s no longer yours, you have to make it for them. [laughs]


Capone: Well maybe they thought, because you had already shot a little bit of it, that it was more a fill-in-the-blanks job for you.

RR: We started it; they enjoyed it; they want the rest of it, so I wanted to make it. I realized I wanted to see that movie too, and the time was right. I saw that the response to Danny in the lead was so great that it was proof of concept in a way that he could pull it off.

Capone: Yeah, and you have that iconic shot in the trailer of him opening his jacket and it’s like an angel of death with those knives. You have to put that in a movie.

RR: That’s what was so fun about the movie, I had to reverse engineer the whole picture, because I had the trailer, and I wanted to include all of the shots of the trailer, so fans of the trailer would see all the shots.

Capone: So you do have all of those shots? That’s great.

RR: Yeah, so I had to work backwards as a writer and go “Okay, how did he get to the waterfall with the two naked girls?”

[Both Laugh]

RR: And how can I put a twist on it, so that it surprises them how he got there, and he’s doing it for a clever reason, not just for being in the waterfall with two girls. So it was a great creative exercise, too. It was really fun.

Capone: Cool. Looks like they're wrapping me up here. Thanks a lot, man.

RR: Thanks so much for your help. Good to see you again.



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  • Aug 31, 2010 11:05:13 AM CDT

    It's this simple to ask THE question:

    by big_ern_mccracken

    Hey, Robert. Any chances there will be a Sin City 2 in the near future?

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  • Aug 31, 2010 11:27:50 AM CDT

    Danny Trejo gotta eat!

    by 2for2true

    I am so ready for this movie.

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  • Aug 31, 2010 11:40:59 AM CDT

    Punisher: War Zone is a great Grindhouse film

    by quake ii

    Machete looks like good, dumb fun but the timing is REALLY bad for this movie if it pushes a political agenda for 90 minutes. America is bankrupt and we really can't "spread the wealth" right now like we have in the past. Promoting illigal immigration via a campy movie may backfire. I'll see it anyhow but Rodrigues is truly an average filmmaker. He should learn a thing or two from his muse Tarantino who knows how to make great films that LAST more than an opening weekend and become cult classics.

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  • Aug 31, 2010 11:55:48 AM CDT

    So is Machete killed in Desperado?

    by spectrebeeyatch

    I mean he traded down machete's for cross shaped throwing knives, but maybe he became religious. So is that how Machete goes down? Killed by Antonio Banderas? Actually that works for me. Quake II is right Punisher: War Zone is a great Grindhouse movie.

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  • Aug 31, 2010 12:00:19 PM CDT

    THE_CHOPPAH...Ha ha

    by quake ii

    So you agree with everything I posted except the Tarantino part? Rodriguez and Tarantino are best buds though. You would think some of the talent would rub off but Rodriguez has ADD and is in love with shitty green screen kiddie movies.

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  • Aug 31, 2010 12:21:10 PM CDT

    I was looking forward to this movie for THREE YEARS...

    by 3d-man

    ...and now that we're THREE DAYS away I somehow just don't care anymore. Same thing happened with WATCHMEN. Hoped for a film version for TWO DECADES, and then when the film was a week away from release, I didn't care anymore. What's wrong with me? Seriously, I'm asking.

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  • Aug 31, 2010 12:47:19 PM CDT

    Promoting Illegal Immigration?

    by sodomy redux

    A resourceful ethnic dude kicking the shit out of whitey is like an American action tradition since the 70s, man. The illegal immigration thing is all in your head, not to mention nonsense. PS: if you want to blame someone for illegal immigration, blame all of the companies that hire them for cheap construction and general shitwork. Including my lily-white parents, who bitch about the problem and then go down to Home Depot every month and rent a human being for 50 dollars to do their shitwork that no one else would do for less than 100.

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  • Aug 31, 2010 1:02:42 PM CDT

    I was looking forward to this until

    by cherryvalance

    I realized it was going to be pro-illegals. I'm not so I don't know if it's for me.

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  • Aug 31, 2010 1:34:33 PM CDT

    Sodomy Redux.....Unemployment

    by quake ii

    The current condition of the US economy has changed the game a bit. Guarantee you that a lot of unemployed US citizens (forget ethnicity) would do all sorts of manual labor jobs right now that they wouldn't have a year ago just keep afloat. With 10% (14% in Nevada) unemployment it's hard for you to say who won't do what for 50 bucks a day. That's not even getting into health care and social benefits that we can barely afford for US citizens right now, much less another countries citizens. And yeah, I live in Arizona where the effect is seen all the time.

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  • Aug 31, 2010 1:43:35 PM CDT

    Politics aside, Rodriguez is an average director.

    by quake ii

    I'm still seeing Machete because the cast is so off the wall I can't miss it. And I have always liked Trejo for some reason. But I don't expect anything worth owning. Rodriguez makes disposable, instantly forgettable movies that sometimes entertain.

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  • Aug 31, 2010 2:14:37 PM CDT

    removing my comments has become common practice

    by dioxholsterreturns

    too bad AICN doesnt know who i really am.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Aug 31, 2010 2:29:48 PM CDT

    Robert name dropping J.J. Abrams?

    by stuntcock mike

    Buddy, you don't need to do that. That guy ain't a zit on your ass.

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  • Aug 31, 2010 3:50:22 PM CDT

    All that chopping and nobody cuts Jessica Alba's bra strap.

    by gun_will_travel

    Casting note: When the part calls for a stripper, hooker, or any hot looking girl for that matter, get one that will drop her top.

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  • Aug 31, 2010 4:01:42 PM CDT

    I call him!..wait for it!...Bobriguez!

    by doober187

  • Aug 31, 2010 5:12:47 PM CDT

    In those 5 minutes he could written a movie

    by supermarch

    I think thats about how long he takes on them anymore right?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Aug 31, 2010 5:14:24 PM CDT

    could have...sorry

    by supermarch

    Excuse my poor English. I'm Canadian.

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  • Aug 31, 2010 6:30:31 PM CDT

    Edited by his sister…

    by rxse7en

    …the ballet dancer? Hmmm.

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  • Sep 01, 2010 2:18:35 AM CDT

    The timing of this movie is going to make it a success

    by gimpinmypants

    All Bill O'Reilly has to do is bitch about it and Rodriquez will have another success on his hands. Also, calling Rodriquez an average filmmaker isn't fair. He's made a lot of good movies. The past few years he's made a lot of shit for kids but Sin City redeemed him and Machete looks like he's getting back the nitty gritty.

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  • Sep 01, 2010 1:14:18 PM CDT

    A LOT of good movies. I disagree

    by quake ii

    Sin City is the only example anyone ever gives and it was co-directed by Frank Miller I believe). Yeah, Sin City was cool but I don't feel the need to ever own it. The El Mariachi movies went from good to worse and From Dusk Till Dawn (a movie I really like) had Tarantino on set every day making suggestions. I can't name one Rodriguez film that even comes close to an Inglorious Basterds or Pulp Fiction or even a Jackie Brown (I use Tarantino movies as an example because of their longtime friendship). I know if Rodriguez tried he could make a great film but I don't think he gives a shit. Planet Terror was ok but I think Death Proof is a much better film overall.

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