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Fox Wants Bruce Willis To Play Ben Grimm In Its Latest FANTASTIC FOUR??

I am – Hercules!! says its Fox sources indicate the studio wants to pursue Bruce Willis to play The Thing in its 2012 “Fantastic Four” reboot. If that sounds like an enormous star-power upgrade, it is only being entertained because the current plan is reportedly to give Ben Grimm the Hulk treatment and turn him to computer graphics. So no super-suit for Willis (who also went tights-free for “Unbreakable”). I deem this a wily move. Recall that Willis was willing to do voice-over work on the first two “Look Who’s Talking” movies between his “Die Hard” about two decades ago. The CGI guarantees that we’ll finally get a movie Thing taller than the Invisible Girl. Others reportedly being mulled for roles include Alice Eve (“She’s Out Of My League”) as Sue Storm, Jonathan Rhys Meyers (“The Tudors”) as Reed Richards, Kevin Pennington (“90210”) as Johnny Storm and Stephen Moyer (“True Blood”) as Victor Von Doom. As previously indicated, indicates James McTeigue (“Ninja Assassin”), Joe Carnahan (“The A-Team”), and David Yates (the last two and next two Harry Potter movies) are being considered to direct. I can’t imagine any of them doing a worse job than Tim Story did on the last two “Four” films. Find all of CBM’s story on the matter here.
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  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Yippie Ka-Yey!

    by nolan bautista

    its clobberin' time!

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Willis would be the shit!



  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:20 p.m. CST

    CG will work better

    by Datascream

    sorry but the practical effects sucked

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Die Hard 5: The Infinity Wifebeater

    by Loosejerk

    Yipppie-Ki-Yancy Street!

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:21 p.m. CST

    im watching this one closely

    by DioxholsterReturns

    lets see it it gets removed.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Where's Colbert?

    by triple-


  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Moyers for Doom

    by drewlicious

    Provided the character is still from Easter Europe I'm all for it. Moyers already has that whole gothic thing down.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:25 p.m. CST


    by DioxholsterReturns


  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Alice Eve, after six months of weight training...

    by zinc_chameleon

    would make grown men and boys weep and worship at her feet. She's a pure natural--only does yoga--so she's never been buffed up to look like the modern incarnation of Sue Storm. This has *real* potential.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Reboot? Why? Just roll with it

    by Teddy Artery

    Continue the stories, forget about a total reboot at this point. For cryin' out loud there are plenty of great story lines to organically follow.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:31 p.m. CST

    screw this thread

    by DioxholsterReturns

    i dont appreciate my first amendment rights being taken away like that. read the constitution herc, it says "thou shall not delete comments for that is womanly" <p> im off to another site that likes to not delete me.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:34 p.m. CST

    inspired casting?

    by Seph_J

    or brainless hack casting?

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Vernon Wells in 'Expendables 2' !!

    by hysfvbsaygvandsv

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:36 p.m. CST

    As long as Doom isn't an American this time.

    by Uncle Stan

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:37 p.m. CST


    by Seph_J


  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:38 p.m. CST

    He'd still have to act in it if they are rebooting

    by ahdvd

    If they'll be showing the F4 before they become fantastic, then he'll need to appear on screen as the normal Ben Grimm.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Reports on other sites say it's just a "wish list"

    by daggor

    but I am down for Willis as the Thing.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Avatar motion capture for thing!

    by poopoohumor

    That way Bruce can still play the role. They should do the same for any future incarnations on the hulk. If they use my idea I want 1 meeeeeelion dollars.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Aweful casting

    by -Halfscan-

    Willis as Grimm & voice of Thing works (and I was pimping that years ago)... everything else sounds like uninspired DTV casting

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Wow they're gonna hire a REAL blonde??

    by kafka07

    Wow they're so brazen! How MARVELous, dar har har.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Fuck Doom this go round...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ...Mole Man, Kree, Skrulls or maybe the Frightful Four. (Okay, this is Fox... no way are we gonna see Galactus again.) I'm just happy the Thing won't be composed of orangey rubber this time. Hope they make him really rock-like (But orange rocks! He has to be orange!) And dammit, give us some insane Kirby-tech this time. All Reeds gizmos in Tim Story's shitty movies looked like he bought it at fuckin' Brookstone.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Get Doom right!

    by fiester

    Just use the comic version. What's so hard about that?

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST

    I approve this.

    by SifoDyasJr.

    Willis would have the right voice for Ben. Get Brad Bird to direct this instead of MI4.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST

    yeah I approve

    by JRKerr

    bruce willis clearly modeled his schtick on ben grimm anyway, so its perfect. I have to defend that Story was great on Barbershop, brought some of that to his 4 for ben and johnny, but obviously ruined sue, reed, and victor... because the latter 3 would never be in a barbershop? idk. cloud galactus is a sin. its unforgiveable. hopefully willis being involved will help browbeat whatever clueless female producer tries paintin pink nipples on rubber suits who never read a fucken comic and thinks all heroes look like dirtbike racers. fuckers. no disrespect to lauren schuler donner who knows more about x-men than anyone else working at fox (fuck brian singer's spoiled usc punk ass). again... willis good.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST

    I have mixed feelings about Story's first FF movie, though...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    My father, who died of complications from Alzheimer's last year bought me my first FF comic when I was a kid and even explained to me who all the characters were ("Who's this rock man Daddy?" "Well, he's called the Thing, son. He's really strong and I know he looks scary, but he's a good guy") So anyway, my Mom and Dad visited me in '05, it was the last time Dad was able to travel and we went to see the Fantastic Four. It was about the last time Dad was able to enjoy a movie in a theatre, and enjoy it he did. So, yeah, mixed feelings. And of course I was just happy to see a movie with Dad one last time. However, I'll attribute the enjoyment we had more to the brilliant creations of Jack Kirby than to anything Tim Story did, of course.

  • man that'd fix a whole heap of problems right there. she reads man. she is one of us.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:56 p.m. CST

    CG is a necessary for some characters

    by terry1978

    We bitch about the use of it, but a good portion of comic book characters and stories need it to actually be plausible. That love of man in suit shit has gotta go.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Vic Mackey

    by GodsRightHandGimp

    Vic is gonna be pissed! Now he is stuck pushing paper for ICE.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Really hope this Bruce Willis as the Thing deal happens...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ...props to Bruce. Sure he's been in a lot of shit... but a lot of great stuff, too. He'll even do goofball stunts like appearing in a Gorillaz video. Man's an icon, just like Eastwood, Ahnuldt, etc.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Can this just be a kinda-sequel and not another origin movie?

    by Tall_Boy66

    Just kick off with "Fantastic Four in the Baxter Building. Dr. Doom in Latveria trying to fuck shit up". This is not complicated to pull off, people.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Other than Skinny Sue #2...

    by ROBRAM89

    ...that's a solid cast and solid directing talent. I'm 90% sold.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:04 p.m. CST

    terry1978, I agree...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ...While the CG Hulk has never worked, a CG Thing would be a perfect use of the tech. A rubber Thing, no matter how well-designed the suit (granted the one in the Story FF flicks was pretty piss-poor) has now been proven to be lame.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Christoph for Dr. Doom

    by CountryBoy

    I know almost nothing about these characters, but from my outsider's perspective, Christoph Waltz would be perfect. Wouldn't he?

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Of course a Sue Storm in lacey bra and panties...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview accidentally is still a good idea! (Or maybe I'm just a perv?)

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Can't we go a little older with Reed?

    by Jor-El23

    I always loved the Clooney idea from almost a decade ago

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Tackle it like they did with the second Hulk...

    by Chewtoy

    No need to redo the origin, and no need to really explain any changes, but also don't do a direct continuation of the prior films. Again, stuff like "The Incredibles" didn't bother giving an origin for the character's powers. Audiences are past that now.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Tim Story deserves to be shot

    by Planty_McPlant_Plants_His_Plant_At_AICN

    Yeah I know Fox meddles and the scripts weren't up to much, but his films were major suckage. I mean Jessica Alba as Sue Storm? Not only can she not act, she's latino. I've more faith with this reboot. And whoever was bitching about Jonathon Rhys Myers should shut the fuck up. He's damn a good actor.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:13 p.m. CST

    It's Clobberin' Time

    by KarlKolchak

    Sounds like they might get it right this time around, though I think Amber Heard and Adrian Brody would make an fantastic Mr. and Missus Fantastic.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:17 p.m. CST


    by John_McClanes_Vest

    Willis is a proper movie star - the others aren't. Doesnt sound like balanced casting to me, if that means anything. It being Fox, maybe this is something to do with Die Hard 5? Willis agrees to do F4 and another Die Hard for X amount??

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Vernon Wells the baseball player... in expendables 2?

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    How does that make any sense?

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Because of Chiklis, they think the character

    by Dennis_Moore

    is bald. Chiklis was great, and Willis could be equally great with this character, but I hope that they aren't casting based on that one characteristic, as it doesn't bode well for the vision that this project needs. Also, yet again, Jackson Publick and Doc Hammer for scripting duties.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Actually, it was always ambiguous whether Doom

    by Dennis_Moore

    had a scarred face, but I'm splitting hairs. I do however agree that Doom should be played like he was in the original toon from the 60's: with a bombastic voice, and huge pride/arrogance. That whole "NOBODY EXPELS VICTOR VON DOOM [from university" thing slays me every time. Also, the diplomatic immunity concept that Stan Lee is ever so proud of needs to be emphasized.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:26 p.m. CST


    by BetaRayBill07

    1)Great casting. 2)The Thing is only 6 feet tall guys in the comics- he's just really wide and heavy. If you have an expectation that he's supposed to be 7 feet plus like the Hulk, prepare to be disappointed.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Motion Capture Tony Soprano

    by Doctor_Strangepork

    That is all.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:36 p.m. CST

    CGI Thing

    by DesasterMaster

    good idea!

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Kirby always meant for Doom...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview have just one tiny, almost unnoticeable scar on his cheek. However, he was so insanely egotistical he couldn't bear to have even the slightest imperfection. Of course Stan Lee had to add in the subplot about Doom having a hot iron mask welded to his face, thereby becoming completely, horribly scarred. Lee was great, but never understood anything about subtle characterization.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:44 p.m. CST

    "It's clobberin' time, Mr. Falcon!"

    by Triple_J_72


  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:45 p.m. CST

    I read somewhere Keifer Sutherland was in the

    by RPLocke

    talks for Thing?!!

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Apart from Willis, that's a terrible, terrible cast

    by kevred

    They take a whole new shot at this and miss completely, AGAIN? Spend the money, you idiots! Get a true, middle-aged leading man for Reed! Quit cutting corners! Argh, these people!

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Clive Owen for Doom

    by Nerd Rage

    Moyers doesn't have the voice or the presence to pull off Doom. He's no better than the nip/tuck dude.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST

    As much shit the FF movies were, Chris Evans IS The Human Torch

    by Dharma4

    THUMBS IF YOU AGR... oh wait, this isn't YouTube.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8 p.m. CST

    Michael Chiklis was always the poor man's Bruce Willis.

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    So it makes perfect sense.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Chiklis and Evans

    by Dark Knight Lite

    were the only good things about the first FF. Chiklis has genuine affection for the character stemming from childhood, so why can't he do the voice?

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Mark Strong will end up as Doom

    by BarryConvex

    You know it'll end up happening, he's the new go-to-guy for these kind of roles.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Dr. Doom

    by DrSherlockHouse

    I haven't read the comics, but a friend of mine who has always told me what I considered to be the most interesting combo of origins for Dr. Doom. He gets the little scar on his cheek, but his vanity leads him to make a mask to hide it. However, he doesn't let the mask properly cool because he is so eager to cover up his "deformity" that it welds itself to his face. I always thought that was a really great character trait. And my friend said, back in the day, that Jude Law would be an ideal Doom...does that mesh with you readers out there?

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST

    STOP citing CBM

    by vadakinX is a joke. It creates rumors and then links back on itself to fake validation of those rumors. They've been doing it about Superman for months. <p> Anything and everything coming out of that site should be taken as nonsense. The only valid stories they have are ones that originated on Variety or THR. 95% of the articles are just made up bullshit so Herc and co please stop giving them the time of day.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Also, Willis for Lex Luthor

    by vadakinX

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST

    skip the fucking origin...

    by skellngtn

    that is all. we've seen it, the general public will wonder a quicky recap over the credits with the new guys if you must. It's too soon for a full blown reboot...even if the first 2 blew, and i was once, during the Byrne era, a HUGE FF fan. Still love the Kirby era and the Byrne era...plenty to pull from there as far as storylines or jumping off points.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Here's an idea...

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    Quit fucking up these movies in the first place. Can we get movie studios who don't screw these IP in the first place so us fans don't have to sit through more "reboots" a few years later?

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST

    Adrian Brody as Mr. Fantastic?Bruce Willis as Thing?

    by Thanos0145

    Horrible casting choices.<P> Alice Eve should stay away from the Marvel Properties controlled by FOX. Rothman and Lauren Shuler Donner are fucking clueless.<p>Hopefully that rumor about Marvel Studios wanting to cast her as the Enchantress are true. She would've made a good White Queen though.<p>FUCK FOX!

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Marv = The Thing

    by BarryConvex

    Just cast Mickey Rourke, he and Ben share similar lives. Both were once good looking guys, by some twist of fate, ended up as hideous looking monsters who the public loves.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Best idea for a FF movie in a while...

    by nostairway

    Make it so! Then start working on a real X-men movie, not this new mutants in the 60s bullshit nobody cares about. We want Wolvie, Cyclops, Phoenix, Cable, Gambit and all the old favorites fighting Magneto, Apocolypse or some other well-known badass. It's not like there's a shortage of villians in that series. Why is this so hard?

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST

    First movies...

    by yubnubrocks

    I actually thought they were ok, at least entertaining. I just hated Dr. Doom and thought his character was useless.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST

    RDJ as The Human Torch.

    by RPLocke

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Oh boy!

    by Orionsangels

    I hope they make the invisible woman sexier, maybe an invisible woman striptease, some stockings. Ooh baby i can see right through you!

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Not Reboot- DO OVER!

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

    The Hulk, Punisher, now FF. How in the Hell do these movie makers get a studio to pony up the doe for not only one bad version of comic book, but ANOTHER version just a few years after! Make a bad movie? No problem. Just call a "DO OVER!". I guess as long as their is money to be made, they will remake three year old movies. Except for a new Superman. That thing will never get off the ground (see what I did there?)

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:35 p.m. CST

    Maybe we'll finally get a FF MOVIE...

    by Jobacca

    And not something that looks and feels like a made-for-TV movie...from the mid-90's....that aired on FOX. Seriously Tim Story....WTF?

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 8:46 p.m. CST


    by Kammich

    I had the same exact reaction as you about the Vernon Wells comment, heh. a sad indictment that we both watch too much ESPN? anyway, I agree that there's no need to reboot this series... just start a new story with the established characters. because, A) no one fucking saw Tim Story's movies anyway. and B) the characters aren't popular enough to warrant having people sit through a second incarnation of their origin(fuck, I'm not even sure people are going to be willing to do that for Spider-man). I'm not overwhelmingly familiar with the characters, so none of the casting rumors really move me in either direction... except for Moyer. he seems like a cool guy, but come on. he's a vapid, one-dimensional and poor actor on a kitschy TV show... sound familiar? it probably does, because thats exactly what Julian McMahon was when he got cast as Doom. even though I'm not much of an F4 fan, I still know that Doom is supposed to be arguably the greatest villain in the Marvel spectrum. can't they at least attempt to do him some justice with their casting? To this day, I still wonder how Tim Story got the job in the first place, when Steven Soderbergh was practically lobbying for the job. is Fox really THAT inept?

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9 p.m. CST

    Jensen Ackles as Reed Richards

    by SmokingRobot

    He has more acting chops than you'd think. He needs a shot to show us what he can do. He's earned it.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:03 p.m. CST

    FF is one of those comics that better on paper

    by leo54304

    than the big screen. Sorry but thats the way I feel. The Thing will never look like he's supposed to. Elasticity just looks stupid on the screen and the comics too. Invisiblity doesn't translate well either but force fields do surprislingly. Flame does but is tough. I just have no interest in another FF film. I love the FF and they were in my first comic too: What If 1#: What if spiderman joined the fantastic four?

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:03 p.m. CST

    That all sounds promising

    by MrEkoLetMeLive

    An FF movie done right could be the greatest comic book movie of them all.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Michael Chiklis IS Benjamin J. Grimm...

    by Pardon_My_Zinger

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Michael Chiklis IS Benjamin J. Grimm...

    by Pardon_My_Zinger

    ... the ever-lovin' blue-eyed Thing. Deal with it.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Interesting choices by some of you.

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    Tough calls all the way around.<p>The actors are important and I think that whoever they pick will do fine. It's the script that worries me. I want a good F.F. movie. There are so many wonderful elements to be mined from the small to the large. I am really hoping for the best.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Give Doom an accent this time!

    by johndillingers20inchseveredcock

    Seriously, people.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:16 p.m. CST

    And cast Jeff Goldblum...

    by johndillingers20inchseveredcock

    ...for Mr. Fantastic already!

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Michael Cera as Kristoff!

    by johndillingers20inchseveredcock

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:22 p.m. CST

    To Hollywood, Who Always Gets It Wrong:

    by Doctor_Strangepork

    Cast: <br> -Reed Richards: Adrien Brody <br> -Sue Storm: Naomi Watts <br> -Johnny Storm: Seann William Scott <br> -Ben Grimm: Motion Capture/CGI James Gandolfini <br> -Dr. Doom: Johnny Depp, in a role that should win him a goddamned academy award. (even though the pussies in marketing won't want him to cover up his face.) <br> <br>Since you don't have to render Gotham City or Metropolis (just point a camera at New York City) and the Fantastic Four don't need freshly minted blue leather scuba suits or whatever the fuck you like to see them wearing(Sometimes in the comic, they wear simple blue t-shirts with the number 4 printed on them), you can spend the extra production money on a skilled WRITER and DIRECTOR who you could snap up at reasonable prices. <br> <br> Writer: Brad Bird. I'm sure the guy who adapted Iron Giant and wrote The Incredibles can come up with a smart, 3 act, 100 minute Fantastic Four screenplay. <br> <br> Director: Edgar Wright. Use your brain. Move him from Ant Man to The Fantastic Four. For The Four, you need a director who can balance often absurd action/adventure with charming humor and oddball romance but still have teeth. Shaun of the Dead captured this perfectly. (Spaced could make going to the pub seem like a comic adventure) Wright and Simon Pegg can even take a pass at the script if you like. <br> <br> Instead of making 290 million on your 130 million dollar investment (plus the steep cost of wall to wall planetary summer blockbuster advertising), you could make 600 million on a more modest 110 million dollar investment. Because if you make this, we will take our boyfriends and girlfriends to see it over and over again and buy copies for all our friends on blue ray and whatever format spacemen are watching it on 2035. Because we'll feel intellectually and emotionally satisfied instead of feeling suckered and taken advantage of like when we saw:<br> -Daredevil <br> -Hulk <br> -The Punisher <br> -Blade: Trinity <br> -Elektra <br> -Fantastic Four <br> -X-men: The Last Stand <br> -Ghost Rider <br> -Spiderman 3 <br> -Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer <br> -The Incredible Hulk <br> -Punisher War Zone <br> -and X-men Origins: Wolverine. <br> <br>And a special note to the many, many production VPs who feel like they need to add their faggoty, brainless opinions in order to justify their jobs: ("You know what America wants to see? They want Iron Man as a drunk hip hop DJ firing weapons at a party!") All you have to do is shut up. Just shut up. Let smart, creative people do smart, creative things and just up. Get yourself an executive producer's credit, shut the fuck up and count the piles and piles of money. If you give them a rewarding, creative atmosphere to work in, they'll make more. <br> <br> Sincerely, Your Target Demographic

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Willis could do it...

    by catlettuce4

    He has a background in comedy, so I don't doubt he could play the Thing with the proper tone. I do, however, wonder if Willis would really commit to a project like this enough to give a shit. If he accepts but sees it as just a payday not a role, it will be bad. I do hope whoever is making this looks towards the comics (and maybe movies like The Incredibles) to get a few ideas how to do theese characters correctly though. You can't try to make it fully ..realistic or eliminate the fun factor. It's the Fantastic Four!

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Bruce Greenwood for Richards

    by thot

    'nuff said

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST

    They will probably also negotiate to use his likeness

    by BetterCallSaul

    in CGI form and Willis will give in. The whole rebooted franchise will be shit, not any better than the last version.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:29 p.m. CST


    by catlettuce4

    I generally agree with what you're saying but there's one thing that needs to be pointed out... you seem to be indicating that you saw the movies on your list. That shows the studios "yes, we will pay to see it no matter what... make anything." I saw two of the films on your list at the theater, two more on DVD (not rented or bought by me.) If it's plainly obvious a movie will suck, like most on your list, don't go... it only encourages them.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Liam Neeson for DOOM!

    by Booster Gold Lives

    I've been wanting Willis to play the Thing for exactly those reasons for over ten years. Developments like this make me feel ahead of the curve...granted, the reast of my ideal cast ten years ago probably wouldn't cut it now (Bill Pullman, Gillian Anderson and Mark-Paul Gosselar for the rest of the Four), but I still think Liam Neeson would kick ass as Dr. Doom.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:31 p.m. CST

    It's not too late for Clooney.

    by Laserbrain

    And hire a decent writer. <p>Fuck. Who am I kidding.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Chris Pine for Human Torch would be awesome.

    by RPLocke

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:37 p.m. CST

    George Clooney as Reed!

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    Won't happen but fuck, I had to say it. Willis as Ben is FANTASTIC! I hope that works out.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Origin story?

    by catlettuce4

    I'd normally say it shouldn't dwell on that, but since the previous onscreen origin seemingly was all fucked up, I guess this one will have to be. Or at least, will have to devote a portion of the running time to it. I'm praying for clever writers here.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Elisabeth Banks for Sue Storm

    by Laserbrain

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 10:04 p.m. CST

    I DON'T KNOW BUT.....

    by MJs_Cold_Dead_Pale_Corpse


  • Aug. 30, 2010, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Go Ultimate!

    by iharlequin

    Ultimate Fantastic Four was a great book in the beginning.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 10:26 p.m. CST


    by Arcadian Del Sol

    also this movie is going to suck because the source material is the clown shoes of comic books. KRULLS ANYONE?

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Stephen Moyer is not an upgrade from that other dude

    by smudgewhat

    Whose name I never learned. Moyer is only average and not menacing. Willis would be good if he'd do it. The whole thing rests on whether a director can get the tone right as Singer did with Xmen. Not that easy really. (See Thor when it comes out. I smell cheese.)

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 10:38 p.m. CST

    vernon wells is a god.....

    by Bright_Boy

    But bautista is zeus. And willis would be good as the thing, but I'm betting its all bullshit.

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Random hot super model for Sue Storm!

    by DioxholsterReturns

    coz none of the actors are hot enough

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Reboots are kinda bothering me

    by darthSaul666

    Since Fox/Sony don't wanna lose film rights.... could go either way I guess.. Would rather Marvel/Disney cold make these films so that any marvel character is fair game for the Avengers...

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 11:24 p.m. CST

    could not cold

    by darthSaul666

    fucking typos!!!

  • Aug. 30, 2010, 11:46 p.m. CST


    by DioxholsterReturns

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:01 a.m. CST

    I know for certain that Fox is gonna do this because...

    by The Founder

    If they don't get a movie up and going the rites go back to marvel. Damn Fox!

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:04 a.m. CST

    For the last time, Thing is NOT huge!

    by cookepuss

    Jeez. Such a stupid fanboy complaint on my part, but I hate when people like Herc say that Thing is supposed to be Hulk-sized. He's 6-ft. No bigger. No smaller. Even at almost 5'9", Chiklis' costume put him at the right height. Same as Mr. Fantastic. Alba, at about 5'6" was ALSO the right height. <p> <p> Get over it. Thing is not the Hulk. Those differences are a part of what makes the comic fights between the two so interesting. If Marvel makes Thing 8" or something then it's just going be the studio pandering to chuckleheads who've never read the comic. Just look at that cover on this thread. Not super tall

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:08 a.m. CST


    by The Founder

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:11 a.m. CST

    james badge dale

    by paulloch

    should be Reed Richards, he looks the most like him, set in the 60's when we were still actually going into space.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:13 a.m. CST

    George Clooney, Bruce Greenwood? Thank god no one has casting po

    by The Founder

    I like them both and their good actors, but as Reed? For the love of god it's good that some here aren't in a casting position for these comic films. Who in their right mind is gonna cast a 50 something year old actor as Reed? People come on. I don't care for Meyers as Reed cause I don't think he fit the character but I wouldn't be upset because the guy is a fine actor. The rest of the actors mentioned works for me, especially Willis as Ben.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Story did the best he could with Fox hanging on his neck

    by The Founder

    People please stop blaming Tim Story. Those films came out better becAuse of Story. Story was hired to direct and nothing more. Those F4 films were nothing more than round table committee made films.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Silver Surfer was only in FF2 because of the rites

    by The Founder

    Fox shoved him and Galactus in their so the rites wouldn't revert back to Marvel.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Don't CG. Mo cap please.

    by Se7en

    Hulk's CG is lifeles, while Avatar's Mo-Cap is alive.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Anyone else think

    by lucky slevin

    Gary Sinise would make a fantastic reed richards?

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Bah! Why are you cretins blaming Tim Story

    by victor_von_gloom

    for the shoddy treatment of Doom and the FF? If you must cast blame, then aim it at the true culprits - THE PRODUCERS AND SCREEN WRITERS...Tim Story was merely a hireling to point and shoot. He had no script or casting approval - So have a care or risk fanning the embers GLOOM'S WRATH!

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:44 a.m. CST

    Willis should do DIE HARD 5 instead. Rated R.

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    For intense graphic violence and language.<p>Damn you, Len Wiseman. Damn you to hell!!!

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:46 a.m. CST

    Ooops! Fanning the embers *of* GLOOM'S

    by victor_von_gloom

    WRATH! Dang, y'all got me all upset n' shit, blamin' my man, Tim over some shit he had no say so over.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 1:06 a.m. CST

    Why bother folks?

    by TheFug

    Fantastic Four is probably the most boring comic ever. These characters stink. Why bother making even one film, let alone a third? And why the hell would they bother re-booting it? The Fantastic Four movie (never saw No.2) stunk because the characters suck. I'm not a big fan of Marvel heroes in general, but Fantastic Four has got to be about the worst.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 1:11 a.m. CST

    Vernon Wells and Patrick Kilpatrick for Expendables 2

    by ImMorganFreeman

    And Dolph's in every scene. Find a way to make it happen, Sly. Oh, while we don't really need another F4 movie, I support Willis in any damn thing he pleases.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 1:21 a.m. CST

    get McG to direct!!!!!!!!!!!

    by DioxholsterReturns

    he was born to do it!

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 1:33 a.m. CST

    I'm not gonna speculate

    by HongKongCavalier

    ... or even post "ideal casting"<p></p> Until I see JettL post about his meeting with the producers and seeing a rough draft of a script treatment, I won't believe anything I read.<p></p> Yes Virginia, that was "sarcasm"

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 1:48 a.m. CST

    Can't see this happening

    by windomearle39

    And I really don't believe that Willis would touch this with a bargepole.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Dude, Bruce Willis never turns down a Paycheck..

    by ganymede3010

    I mean that man will act in any and everything. No way he passes up on this EASY MONEY. He'll make millions without ever breaking a sweat.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 2:57 a.m. CST

    As long as Jon Hamm is Reed Richards

    by chien_sale

    I'M fine with it.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 3:26 a.m. CST

    I've always wanted to see an FF movie...

    by jasper Stillwell

    ...but you might as well give this back to Roger Corman as Fox clearly don't care about the original material which in the right hands would make a wild movie. Willis is a boring idea but would work, Moyer is simply terrible - a real lightweight. Meyer would be better as Doom than as Reed. It you want to do this right just do the whole thing as a CGI feature, set it in 1965 and get a great voice cast (Clooney et al) and make a real Kirby/Buscema-style movie. That way you can do the Negative Zone properly too.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 3:49 a.m. CST

    FF never appealed to me

    by DioxholsterReturns

    something shitty about it, overrated and well shitty, honestly just talking about it makes me feel dirty and i prefer not to talk...about it.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 3:51 a.m. CST

    The FF movies weren't all that bad

    by MikeCSVU

    I kinda enjoyed them. The dynamics between the team members was good and considering the first had an extremely low budget it was okay. Got to agree with all the Doc Doom haters though, he was shit and the entire premise of his origin in the film was shit. I coul;dn't believe they brought him back for the second movie. I have no problem with them recasting but please, not another bloody origin story FFS. If you have to do it, do it in five minutes and get on with the story.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 4 a.m. CST

    Marvel universe sucks pig ass

    by DioxholsterReturns

    and having all those spidy, hulk, FF, x-men, all of them around just devalues their individuality. oh look i got powers... yeah but my powers are better see... oh no im the coolest...shut the fuck up i can jump building for no reasonz...i can make burn you....hey i can do that too...yeah but i can burn myself too....oh then i cant do that...who want to play hero vs. villian?.... me me me!!!....i want to be the villain this time! me plz im so badass...................... and so on.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 4:02 a.m. CST

    Bruce willis turned down Titanic role

    by DioxholsterReturns

    so your wrong ganymede3010, bruce does turn down roles...the good ones.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 4:04 a.m. CST

    STEPHEN COLBERT AS REED RICHARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by ErichZann

    Search your feelings.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 4:11 a.m. CST

    Colbert as Dr. Doom!

    by DioxholsterReturns

    Jon Stewart as Reed Richards!!!

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 4:13 a.m. CST

    when are we gonna get Batman Vs. Wolverine?

    by DioxholsterReturns

    thats the only thing i want in life + pussy

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 4:26 a.m. CST

    The Incredibles FUCKED FF

    by TiPPiDa

    ..Right in the pooper. <P> I think the whole George Clooney as reed thing is something that can be forgotten right off the bat... the only reason I can come up with is because HE'S FUCKING GEORGE CLOONEY.. <P>I like Jom Hamm for Reed, <br>Elizabeth Mitchell (Juliette from LOST) for Sue,<br>I'm kinda flipping a coin between Chris Pine and Ryan Kwanten for Johnny,<br> Jeffrey Dean Morgan for Ben... <P>as for DOOM, well you've gotta get an ACTOR. Its fine for pulling TV and b-league actors, but the Villain has to be someone with serious chops. Someone like Jason Isaacs, Ralph Fiennes, Christoph Waltz, Daniel Craig (its not like he's doing Bond again anytime soon) however, I put Jason Isaacs first not only because he's one of my faveourite actors, but because because the last 3 on this list are have either hit, or are hitting thier straps in terms of hollywood clout and would probably command too much $. What the fuck do we know, we're just fans... we don't get to make these decisions. Still its fun to think about.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 4:40 a.m. CST

    Herc - we want it to kick ass

    by hallmitchell

    Not being not as bad!

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 4:59 a.m. CST

    Re: Joe Carnahan

    by bubcus

    I wasn't keen on how the A-Team movie was put together. I liked some of the actors in there but it was the direction and editing itself that annoyed me in that film. He doesn't get my vote for the FF movie... course what am I saying, I didn't even watch the Fantastic Four films.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 5:15 a.m. CST

    isn't willis 'busy' doing die hard 5

    by theonecalledshoe

    really now... brucie could do a voice over and that honestly is about it. Michael C. did a damn good job as ben grimm.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 5:27 a.m. CST

    How about Tim Daly as Reed?

    by tao_pilot

    Or, if not Reed, I always thought Daly would make an excellent Cyclops.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 5:32 a.m. CST

    that's some superb casting

    by cifra


  • Aug. 31, 2010, 6:14 a.m. CST

    No Limeys!

    by NippleEffect

    American comic, American team and characters, use American actors<p> Quit sending money overseas!

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 6:48 a.m. CST

    I'm just happy he'll be CG.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 7:08 a.m. CST

    Mickey ROurke could be great as the voice of the Thing.

    by mojoman69

    Willis would work too. Clooney as Reed Richards. January Jones as Sue, Zak Efron as Johnny. Oprah Winfrey as Lockjaw, actually id like to see the Inhumans in this. or the Skrulls. Hell maybe a cameo by Ali Larter as Ms MArvel!

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 7:29 a.m. CST

    willis' thing

    by scrapegoat

    they're not going to show the origin except in the credit sequence so theres no need to show willis

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 8:16 a.m. CST

    John Hamm and January Jones as the Richards'

    by SID 8.0

    Why is this so hard? Willis doing The Thing can work wonders. Johnny Storm I don't know. Mojoman,Rourke could do the Ben Grimm in his sleep.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Doctor strangepork

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Couldn't have said it better. You are professional.<p> That's all. I have nothing foul or profane to add at this time.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Speaking of Die Hard

    by Abominable Snowcone

    How the hell can LFODH be at like 80% on RT, with DH2 and DHWAV being at 60% and 40%?<p> Really? More people liked Live Free than they liked DH2?

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST

    January Jones for Sue storm . Agreed !

    by smddoc

    I think she'd be perfect, and maybe James Cavasiel as Reed. I'd also say keep Chiklis as Thing though. How about Paul Walker as the Torch

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 9:38 a.m. CST


    by bourne7855

    John Travolta and Kirstie Alley are The Things parents? maybe wel get a cameo and the thing is a Scientologist lol

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 9:57 a.m. CST

    I'm not sure Alice Eve is quite hot enough....

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    But otherwise I have to say that if they are "going young" with the cast, those are pretty good picks!

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST


    by DaBUU

    Javier Bardem for Doom!

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST

    I really like the idea of Mickey Rourke as Thing

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    He's got that rough, haggard, but loveable voice that would be perfect. Think about it guys, Bruce Willis has kind of a high voice. Think of Look Who's Talking. I don't think it would work quite as well as you might imagine.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Mw two cents...

    by KingKirby

    I say actually read a damn FF comic and see who the characters are and what they look like. And please, make this a 60's era adventure. Reed Richards: I would have said Clooney if he was 10 years younger. Thin, brainy, mid 30's, American, natural leader. How about Aaron Eckhart? Darken his hair and given him the gray patches. Sue Storm: I actually like January Jones for Sue Storm. Aside from the name iliteration, she's hot and actually looks like Sue. Ben Grimm: For the few scenes of him as Astronaut Ben Grimm, Willis would work well. I'm not sure that his wise-ass McClain voice could go low enough for The Thing, though. Johnny Storm: Younger kid brother type, full of himself and hot after the ladies. How about really blonde Anton Yelchin up and make him The Human Torch? Victor Von Doom: Well, here's the thing...we shouldn't ever see Doom's actual face...he should be a man of mystery, like Darth Vader once was...only a glipse of the carnage beneath the helmet. Moyer has intensity and already has a European accent. Could work.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 10:33 a.m. CST


    by Nice Marmot

    Need I say more?

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Start this movie from a tourists' point of view...

    by Spacelab

    ...visiting the Baxter Building. People already holding action figures and dolls, etc. A tour guide dressed like a sexy 60s airline hostess tells people about the Fantastic Four and plays an animated movie. (In Kirby-style animation) that shows their origin. Right then, a huge monster pops up from the earth and the FF defeat it. Cue cheering crowds, and Johnny signs an 8x10 of himself and throws it to some women. Cue the opening credits... Also, the plot would be...

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 10:40 a.m. CST

    JOHN HODGMAN for Reed Richards

    by Spacelab

    What more do you need? Your character will already be identified as a square and a nerd from day one. Plus he would be hilsrious with the science talk..

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Bruce Willis in Fantastic Four? LMAO

    by HenryMcMullen3

    Yeah, good luck with that. The last thing Willis wants is some t.v. star's sloppy seconds.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Willis is too damn old.

    by Stalkeye

    Actually the best actor from the two lame FF movies was Chiklis (and to some extent, Chris evans.)as the guy brought credibility to the films. As for mr. F, well, orghinally I would have picked clooney but same answer as with willis.There's always John Hamm, but he's more of a robust/stoic guy than some brainiac aka Richards. A reboot cant be as bad as tim's past abominations.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 11:02 a.m. CST

    bruce willis super cool

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    alice eve, super butterface... rhys meyer guy, terrible actor... bill compton, "sooooookie"

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Yippee Kay Ay It's Clobberin' Time

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Nice Marmot, Hell Yeah!

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    If we're talking CGI and voiceover absofrigginlutely. The Borg is 93 and still kicking strong.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 11:29 a.m. CST

    great choice

    by lettersoftransit

    nuff said

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Whats Wrong With Julian.

    by Skeletor2010

    I thought McMahon did a great job as Doom. When The mask was on he made Doom come alive. But I think Viggo Mortensen, Gary Oldman or Sean Bean would be the ideal Doom. A pity Alan Rickman looks alot older now for he'd be great too.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 11:40 a.m. CST

    James Gandolfini

    by Immortal_Fish

    What? Does it make too much sense? Since we're only talking voice here.<P>I can just picture it now. Some studio exec mulls it over then says, "He isn't bald enough. And his voice sounds too... Brooklyn..."<P>::eyeroll::

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Story's FF movies DID NOT SUCK

    by curtis3martin

    I don't give a flying shit what any of you supergeeks say--Tim Story did a good job on his FF films. I'm an older guy and Story definitely captured the flavor of the early Kirby-Lee comics. The only truly fatal flaw was in the handling of Dr. Doom--admittedly a pencil-neck prettyboy with a lame California accent just doesn't cut it as Doom. Every non-geek (meaning a person not retardly prejudiced against the same things as his lame ass peer group for no rational reason other than his seething leftover rejected-by-my-highschool-girlfriend resentment) I spoke to who saw the films liked them. They weren't blown away by them, but they honestly enjoyed them. And those films were not unsuccesful financially, either--both made tens of millions in pure profit. But Marvel is actually only looking for Spider-Man or Iron Man sized bux, and quickly give up on the regular-sized profits of your FFs and your Hulks with quick re-boot stops and starts. On another subject, I dont tink this True Blood pencilneck would be any better a Doom than the pencilneck from Nip/Tuck was. What they need is someone like Mickey Roarke. Someone with a deep, menancing voice and more than a touch of obsessive craziness.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, noon CST

    Bah! James Marsters was born to play DOOM!

    by victor_von_gloom

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:02 p.m. CST


    by Nice Marmot

    Thats kind of a lot of typing only to prove you're still fucking wrong.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:06 p.m. CST

    besides Frankie Marmoset, I know of NO ONE

    by just pillow talk

    who thought the FF movies were entertaining.<p>It has nothing to do with being a geek, the films were awful. Besides Evans, everything was wrong. Bad acting, poor stories, and very boring movies.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Story did suck.

    by Stalkeye

    he should just stick to comedies instead of turning a beloved comic based IP into some slapstick shitfest.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Well Skeletor2010 if they follow the comic

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    he'll be wearing a mask 100 percent of the time barring any flashbacks. Rickman would be great. I was thinking Viggo too, but his voice is just too smooth.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Bruce Willis is good

    by matineer

    Don't know about the rest of the cast, although they seem like good, attractive actors. Obviously, they are going kind of young. Always thought of Reed as Robert Ryan. Biq question is will this version have Reed's super lab and gadgets, plus the (expensive) galaxy bending FF story?

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Hollywood milking cool comic book characters for the money.

    by crazybubba

    What uninspired casting ideas. I love Willis but he is to old for Ben Grimm.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Story slapstick?

    by curtis3martin

    Story "should just stick to comedies instead of turning a beloved comic based IP into some slapstick shitfest."? The original FF had lots of humor. That's why I liked Story's take on the material--he was going back to the FF golden age instead of the crappy serious later version after hack morons had ruined the comic's charm.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 1:08 p.m. CST


    by curtis3martin

    "Thats kind of a lot of typing only to prove you're still fucking wrong." Dude--you used only a few words to not defend your apparant point of view at all! That's what I hate about 99% of fanboys--they're faux-passionate about certain issues, but have no idea why and therefore will never admit that they're just riding the fanboy wave without thinking about it a damn bit. Fanboy=total conformist.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST

    So Bruce Willis is now cheap to get?

    by AsimovLives

    Is he entering the Has-Been status already? He could start a club with Tom Cruise, Richard Gere, Harrison Ford and Arnold The Governor.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST

    by krabklaw

    Reed- Bruce Greenwood Sue- Malin Ackerman Ben- Jeffrey Dean Morgan Johnny-some unknown teenager

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 1:45 p.m. CST


    by marineboy

    Please, if there is a God, cast Doom with someone of some f*cking gravitas!!! Neeson, Fiennes - anyone but another TV cast off. Otherwise - I'll be downloading AGAIN Hollywood :(

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 1:46 p.m. CST

    rsanta74 is correct

    by Toonol

    The Thing is not tall. He's shorter than reed, slightly taller than Johnnie.<p> Now, he's as WIDE as three men, but that's a different matter.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Stalkeye, what the fuck are you talking about?

    by glodene

    Your gripe would be legitimate if Tim Story has a hand in writing the script and producing, but he didn't! He was hired as the DIRECTOR. <P> Blaming Tim Story for the artistic clusterfuck that was F.F. movie adaptations is like blaming Bret Ratner for the artistic failure of X3.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 2:10 p.m. CST

    It's not like signing Willis=Instant hit

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    Just ask Kevin Smith. So why pay Bruce's salary when he won't even apear onscreen? Unless they ARE doing an origin again, which seems profoundly stupid.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 2:27 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Why shoudn't you blame Brett Ratner for the fuck up of X-MEN 3? He is just, like, the FUCKING DIRECTOR of the whole bloody thing! Isempt Ratner from that fuck ups of X-MEN 3? THAT'S A LAUGHT!! Hysterical!

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 2:29 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    All actors who have already played comic book characters before. That's some imaginative casting you got there, pal! Typecasting much, are we?

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Fuck yeah, Neeson for Doom

    by Lamerz

    He could pull that shit off!<P>Also, I love the idea of Bruce Greenwood for Reed. Make that shit happen.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 2:41 p.m. CST


    by curtis3martin

    "Why shoudn't you blame Brett Ratner for the fuck up of X-MEN 3? He is just, like, the FUCKING DIRECTOR of the whole bloody thing!" Are you retarded, or do you just know nothing about how studio films are made? If you'd read any of the trades at the time (or even AICN & Entertainment Weekly) you'd know that Ratner was virtually a last minute replacement as director. He had no say in the casting, screenplay, storyline, effects sequences, costumes, etc. He was simply hired to shoot the screenplay the producers had already decided on with 99% of the creative decisions already made. Singer and Nolan on the other hand had creative control of their superhero pics from day one. If you want to "blame" someone for X3 (and there's really no one to blame because anyone with half a brain of his own can see it's virtually identical to X and X2) then you have to blame the producers--they are the ones who set the project in motion without a clear direction and without the original creative team.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Viggo would probably be good for Doom

    by Lamerz

    Rickman would have been spectacular as Doom 10-15 years ago. He's the fucking man, but Doom can't be much older than Reed, right?

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 2:44 p.m. CST

    re: So Bruce Willis is now cheap to get?

    by curtis3martin

    "Is he entering the Has-Been status already? He could start a club with Tom Cruise, Richard Gere, Harrison Ford and Arnold The Governor." I think that question was answered back when the Willer took a bit part in "Planet Terror." (in other words, "yes")

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST


    by Stalkeye

    According to your logic, I sholdnt blame Micheal Bay for the fuckup that was the past transformers films.Amirite?<p>Asi would know. (0:'<p>Story was hired to helm the film and not as some last minute directing choice.He obviously was not too familiar with the Comic otherwise he would have offered creavtive input instead of all the bullshit shinanigans (did i spell that one right?) that went on throughout the first film. And Alba as Sue was a real shitty casting choice.Even if it wasnt his idea, he could have said something in regards to her getting the part.<p>I guess i'll give Bryan Singer a pass for fucking up Superman Returns.yuuuuppppppp.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 2:56 p.m. CST

    krabklaw for the win!

    by Stalkeye

    Great casting ideas.Shit, maybe you should be hired for judging the auditions instead of these lame hollywood hacks.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 3 p.m. CST

    FF and GL...comic movies destined to fail

    by Chewbacca_Khan

    These comics just have dynamics that do not, will not, can not translate to the film medium. <br><br> You cant capture the essence of FF without a Kirby-esque approach and a) that is a 60s style that doesn't fit today's culture and b) it would look ridiculously implausible on screen. Imagine a set the size and scope of Aliens or Bladerunner, and then throw in a stretchy guy and a dude covered in orange rocks. <br><br> GL is the same way. You want to satisfy fans you gotta do Oa and Kilowog and giant green boxing gloves. Tell me how anyone not a comic geek that saw Spider-Man or Iron Man goes to see that movie.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 3:43 p.m. CST


    by glodene

    Your beef is with the PRODUCERS AND TOM ROTHMAN, not Tim Story. <p> By your logic, Tim Story prior to being hired as the director, had MAJOR juice (POWER). Remember, prior to the F.F. he only had the WHASSSUPPP Budweiser commercial and that Nick Cannon movie, DRUMBEAT. <p> He had no say so in the casting or the script...Your Michael Bay comparison is laughable, due to Bay's (already) proven B.O. track record and Industry power, which Tim Story does not HAVE! <P> So in closing, I reiterate, your beef is with the Producers, Tom Rothman and the Script writers, not Tim Story!

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Unlike many, i don't geekasm on this Avengers movie

    by AsimovLives

    In fact, i'm pretty cold to the movie. I can hardly muster an interest about it. If the movie is good, fine, but if it's bad, there's no raping of childhood happening. Unless the movie is so horribly badly made and stupidly dumbed down like Jar Jar Abrams's latest, then i might feel something about it.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 4 p.m. CST

    Doom's Scar

    by Ivan_Mtl

    Jack Kirby did go on record as saying that Dr. Doom had only sustained a small scar from the explosion. In fact, Kirby drew a convention sketch for a fan of Doom unmasked revealing the tiny scar. My interpretation of why Doom would subsequently disfigure his entire face by donninghis red-hot iron mask is that he could not bear to look at the scar because it reminded him that Reed was right about his miscalculations, and that he was wrong thus proving Reed Richards' intellectual superiority. Personally, I would love to see an F.F. story pursue the idea that Reed actually came up with his most incredibly advanced inventions and discoveries AFTER his exposure to cosmic rays. Dr. Doom would then attempt to augment his own mental abilities through cosmic ray exposure (perhaps siphoning it off the entire Fantastic Four), since he already considers himself to be smarter than Richards. It could be the basis for an interesting comic book, if not film.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 5:50 p.m. CST

    If Willis plays BEN GRIM - he won't have to worry about being BA

    by JonChambers

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 5:52 p.m. CST

    If he does, it's a step down- being a voice in an Ensemble

    by JonChambers

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Dear lord...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ..." "...

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 6:07 p.m. CST

    "Yippie-Ki-Yay, Aunt Petunia!"

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 9:05 p.m. CST

    If movie FF were tied in with movie Avengers universe...

    by Immortal_Fish

    Doom would be getting his arch nemesis groove on through some Asgardian tech. A shame what could have been. Instead, lame Fox will find another way to screw the character again. FF1 at least laid the template out for Doom to really be Doom in FF2, yet they opted to fumble again instead.<P>Count me in on the Viggo train. Although someone above mentioned Clive Owen and I agree he would work well too.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 9:10 p.m. CST

    One problem with the FF franchise:

    by Kaitain

    Very few people care about the Fantastic Four. They seem kinda naff to non-fanboys.

  • Aug. 31, 2010, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Evans & Chikilis were the only reason I enjoyed Foxtastic Fuck

    by david_boreanez_cunt_hairz

    They had the personality.

  • Sept. 1, 2010, 12:35 a.m. CST

    Stan Lee has the best cameos in these movies

    by RPLocke

    He's really just brushed aside in Iron Man.

  • Sept. 1, 2010, 1:11 a.m. CST

    Uggh, had to use the short-sleeve FF uniform pic

    by njscribe44

    Reed looks like an idiot stretching his arms in short sleeves - maybe in civilian clothes. Didn't hate the last two FF movies as much as other fans, but whatever.

  • Sept. 1, 2010, 1:38 a.m. CST

    Start this movie with a spread eagle shot

    by Dennis_Moore

    of January Jones. Beautiful skinny blonds like her always have great looking crotches.

  • Sept. 1, 2010, 2:46 a.m. CST

    This sounds really rumory !?!??!?

    by darthSaul666

    At least X-Men and Spider-Man have pending filming schedules and some casting!!! Apparently... ( was it LIONSGATE?!?!?! I forgot.??? ) the studio with rights to the Punisher lost them to Marvel/Disney... I bet any studio with any peace of Marvel Cinematic Universe without Marvel/Disney sanction wanna spin stuff madly before they are cut out and we see things sealed in the Disney vault forever like some Disney classics!!!!!

  • Sept. 1, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST


    by Big_Daddy_Nero

    Just say NO to McTieigue!!!! That guy is a worse hack than Lucas. Has zero skills for making a movie, and would automatically guarantee that this movie would bomb. Hell, RATNER would be a better choice than the guy who gave us the steaming piles known as V for Vendetta and Ninja Assassin!!

  • Sept. 1, 2010, 12:06 p.m. CST

    I think this is a great idea

    by animatronicmojo

    But, as long as we're dream-casting: George Clooney for Mr. Fantastic, Naomi Watts for The Invisible Woman, Justin Timberlake for The Human Torch, and James Earl Jones for the voice of Dr. Doom.