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Fox Wants Bruce Willis To Play Ben Grimm In Its Latest FANTASTIC FOUR??
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ComicBookMovie.com says its Fox sources indicate the studio wants to pursue Bruce Willis to play The Thing in its 2012 “Fantastic Four” reboot.
If that sounds like an enormous star-power upgrade, it is only being entertained because the current plan is reportedly to give Ben Grimm the Hulk treatment and turn him to computer graphics. So no super-suit for Willis (who also went tights-free for “Unbreakable”).
I deem this a wily move. Recall that Willis was willing to do voice-over work on the first two “Look Who’s Talking” movies between his “Die Hard” about two decades ago.
The CGI guarantees that we’ll finally get a movie Thing taller than the Invisible Girl.
Others reportedly being mulled for roles include Alice Eve (“She’s Out Of My League”) as Sue Storm, Jonathan Rhys Meyers (“The Tudors”) as Reed Richards, Kevin Pennington (“90210”) as Johnny Storm and Stephen Moyer (“True Blood”) as Victor Von Doom.
As previously indicated, ComicBook.com indicates James McTeigue (“Ninja Assassin”), Joe Carnahan (“The A-Team”), and David Yates (the last two and next two Harry Potter movies) are being considered to direct.
I can’t imagine any of them doing a worse job than Tim Story did on the last two “Four” films.
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its clobberin' time!
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sorry but the practical effects sucked
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Yipppie-Ki-Yancy Street!
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lets see it it gets removed.
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Provided the character is still from Easter Europe I'm all for it. Moyers already has that whole gothic thing down.
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HAHAHA MY FIRST COMMENT GOT TOTALLY DELETED!!! HAHAHA AICN YOU MAKE ME LAUGH YOU CANT DO THAT FOREVER
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would make grown men and boys weep and worship at her feet. She's a pure natural--only does yoga--so she's never been buffed up to look like the modern incarnation of Sue Storm. This has *real* potential.
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Continue the stories, forget about a total reboot at this point. For cryin' out loud there are plenty of great story lines to organically follow.
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i dont appreciate my first amendment rights being taken away like that. read the constitution herc, it says "thou shall not delete comments for that is womanly" im off to another site that likes to not delete me.
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or brainless hack casting?
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EVER MAKES AGAIN EVER EVER IF THEY CAST THAT MOOOCHING TALENTLESS FAGGOT JONATHAN RHYS MEYERS AS REED RICHARDS. JEEZ HOW MANY COCKS DID THAT GUY SUCK TO GET AN ACTING CAREER?!?!
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If they'll be showing the F4 before they become fantastic, then he'll need to appear on screen as the normal Ben Grimm.
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but I am down for Willis as the Thing.
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That way Bruce can still play the role.
They should do the same for any future incarnations on the hulk. If they use my idea I want 1 meeeeeelion dollars. -
Willis as Grimm & voice of Thing works (and I was pimping that years ago)... everything else sounds like uninspired DTV casting
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Wow they're so brazen! How MARVELous, dar har har.
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...Mole Man, Kree, Skrulls or maybe the Frightful Four. (Okay, this is Fox... no way are we gonna see Galactus again.) I'm just happy the Thing won't be composed of orangey rubber this time. Hope they make him really rock-like (But orange rocks! He has to be orange!) And dammit, give us some insane Kirby-tech this time. All Reeds gizmos in Tim Story's shitty movies looked like he bought it at fuckin' Brookstone.
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Just use the comic version. What's so hard about that?
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Willis would have the right voice for Ben. Get Brad Bird to direct this instead of MI4.
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bruce willis clearly modeled his schtick on ben grimm anyway, so its perfect. I have to defend that Story was great on Barbershop, brought some of that to his 4 for ben and johnny, but obviously ruined sue, reed, and victor... because the latter 3 would never be in a barbershop? idk. cloud galactus is a sin. its unforgiveable. hopefully willis being involved will help browbeat whatever clueless female producer tries paintin pink nipples on rubber suits who never read a fucken comic and thinks all heroes look like dirtbike racers. fuckers. no disrespect to lauren schuler donner who knows more about x-men than anyone else working at fox (fuck brian singer's spoiled usc punk ass). again... willis good.
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Aug 30, 2010 6:54:13 PM CDT
I have mixed feelings about Story's first FF movie, though...
by harryknowlesnonexistentinceptionreview
My father, who died of complications from Alzheimer's last year bought me my first FF comic when I was a kid and even explained to me who all the characters were ("Who's this rock man Daddy?" "Well, he's called the Thing, son. He's really strong and I know he looks scary, but he's a good guy") So anyway, my Mom and Dad visited me in '05, it was the last time Dad was able to travel and we went to see the Fantastic Four. It was about the last time Dad was able to enjoy a movie in a theatre, and enjoy it he did. So, yeah, mixed feelings. And of course I was just happy to see a movie with Dad one last time. However, I'll attribute the enjoyment we had more to the brilliant creations of Jack Kirby than to anything Tim Story did, of course.
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Aug 30, 2010 6:56:03 PM CDT
hey yo can we just petition lauren schuler donner to direct it?
by jrkerr
man that'd fix a whole heap of problems right there. she reads man. she is one of us.
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We bitch about the use of it, but a good portion of comic book characters and stories need it to actually be plausible. That love of man in suit shit has gotta go.
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Vic is gonna be pissed! Now he is stuck pushing paper for ICE.
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Aug 30, 2010 7:01:31 PM CDT
Really hope this Bruce Willis as the Thing deal happens...
by harryknowlesnonexistentinceptionreview
...props to Bruce. Sure he's been in a lot of shit... but a lot of great stuff, too. He'll even do goofball stunts like appearing in a Gorillaz video. Man's an icon, just like Eastwood, Ahnuldt, etc.
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Aug 30, 2010 7:01:41 PM CDT
Can this just be a kinda-sequel and not another origin movie?
by tall_boy66
Just kick off with "Fantastic Four in the Baxter Building. Dr. Doom in Latveria trying to fuck shit up". This is not complicated to pull off, people.
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...that's a solid cast and solid directing talent. I'm 90% sold.
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...While the CG Hulk has never worked, a CG Thing would be a perfect use of the tech. A rubber Thing, no matter how well-designed the suit (granted the one in the Story FF flicks was pretty piss-poor) has now been proven to be lame.
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I know almost nothing about these characters, but from my outsider's perspective, Christoph Waltz would be perfect. Wouldn't he?
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Aug 30, 2010 7:06:40 PM CDT
Of course a Sue Storm in lacey bra and panties...
by harryknowlesnonexistentinceptionreview
...re-visiblizing(?) accidentally is still a good idea! (Or maybe I'm just a perv?)
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I always loved the Clooney idea from almost a decade ago
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No need to redo the origin, and no need to really explain any changes, but also don't do a direct continuation of the prior films. Again, stuff like "The Incredibles" didn't bother giving an origin for the character's powers. Audiences are past that now.
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Aug 30, 2010 7:09:31 PM CDT
Tim Story deserves to be shot
by planty_mcplant_plants_his_plant_at_aicn
Yeah I know Fox meddles and the scripts weren't up to much, but his films were major suckage. I mean Jessica Alba as Sue Storm? Not only can she not act, she's latino. I've more faith with this reboot. And whoever was bitching about Jonathon Rhys Myers should shut the fuck up. He's damn a good actor.
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Sounds like they might get it right this time around, though I think Amber Heard and Adrian Brody would make an fantastic Mr. and Missus Fantastic.
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Willis is a proper movie star - the others aren't. Doesnt sound like balanced casting to me, if that means anything.
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Aug 30, 2010 7:17:25 PM CDT
Vernon Wells the baseball player... in expendables 2?
by redbull_werewolf
How does that make any sense?
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is bald. Chiklis was great, and Willis could be equally great with this character, but I hope that they aren't casting based on that one characteristic, as it doesn't bode well for the vision that this project needs. Also, yet again, Jackson Publick and Doc Hammer for scripting duties.
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had a scarred face, but I'm splitting hairs. I do however agree that Doom should be played like he was in the original toon from the 60's: with a bombastic voice, and huge pride/arrogance. That whole "NOBODY EXPELS VICTOR VON DOOM [from university" thing slays me every time. Also, the diplomatic immunity concept that Stan Lee is ever so proud of needs to be emphasized.
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1)Great casting. 2)The Thing is only 6 feet tall guys in the comics- he's just really wide and heavy. If you have an expectation that he's supposed to be 7 feet plus like the Hulk, prepare to be disappointed.
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Ben Grimm = Lexington Steel
Reed Richards = Peter North
Johnny Storm = TT Boy
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That is all.
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good idea!
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Aug 30, 2010 7:41:32 PM CDT
Yeah, Kirby always meant for Doom...
by harryknowlesnonexistentinceptionreview
...to have just one tiny, almost unnoticeable scar on his cheek. However, he was so insanely egotistical he couldn't bear to have even the slightest imperfection. Of course Stan Lee had to add in the subplot about Doom having a hot iron mask welded to his face, thereby becoming completely, horribly scarred. Lee was great, but never understood anything about subtle characterization.
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heh...
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talks for Thing?!!
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They take a whole new shot at this and miss completely, AGAIN? Spend the money, you idiots! Get a true, middle-aged leading man for Reed! Quit cutting corners! Argh, these people!
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Moyers doesn't have the voice or the presence to pull off Doom. He's no better than the nip/tuck dude.
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Aug 30, 2010 7:57:39 PM CDT
As much shit the FF movies were, Chris Evans IS The Human Torch
by dharma4
THUMBS IF YOU AGR... oh wait, this isn't YouTube.
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Aug 30, 2010 8:00:41 PM CDT
Michael Chiklis was always the poor man's Bruce Willis.
by the reluctant austinite
So it makes perfect sense.
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were the only good things about the first FF. Chiklis has genuine affection for the character stemming from childhood, so why can't he do the voice?
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You know it'll end up happening, he's the new go-to-guy for these kind of roles.
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I haven't read the comics, but a friend of mine who has always told me what I considered to be the most interesting combo of origins for Dr. Doom. He gets the little scar on his cheek, but his vanity leads him to make a mask to hide it. However, he doesn't let the mask properly cool because he is so eager to cover up his "deformity" that it welds itself to his face. I always thought that was a really great character trait. And my friend said, back in the day, that Jude Law would be an ideal Doom...does that mesh with you readers out there?
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Comicbookmovie.com is a joke. It creates rumors and then links back on itself to fake validation of those rumors. They've been doing it about Superman for months.
Anything and everything coming out of that site should be taken as nonsense. The only valid stories they have are ones that originated on Variety or THR. 95% of the articles are just made up bullshit so Herc and co please stop giving them the time of day. -
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we've seen it, the general public will wonder WTF...do a quicky recap over the credits with the new guys if you must. It's too soon for a full blown reboot...even if the first 2 blew, and i was once, during the Byrne era, a HUGE FF fan. Still love the Kirby era and the Byrne era...plenty to pull from there as far as storylines or jumping off points. -
Quit fucking up these movies in the first place. Can we get movie studios who don't screw these IP in the first place so us fans don't have to sit through more "reboots" a few years later?
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Horrible casting choices. Alice Eve should stay away from the Marvel Properties controlled by FOX. Rothman and Lauren Shuler Donner are fucking clueless.Hopefully that rumor about Marvel Studios wanting to cast her as the Enchantress are true. She would've made a good White Queen though.FUCK FOX!
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Just cast Mickey Rourke, he and Ben share similar lives. Both were once good looking guys, by some twist of fate, ended up as hideous looking monsters who the public loves.
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Make it so! Then start working on a real X-men movie, not this new mutants in the 60s bullshit nobody cares about. We want Wolvie, Cyclops, Phoenix, Cable, Gambit and all the old favorites fighting Magneto, Apocolypse or some other well-known badass. It's not like there's a shortage of villians in that series. Why is this so hard?
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I actually thought they were ok, at least entertaining. I just hated Dr. Doom and thought his character was useless.
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I hope they make the invisible woman sexier, maybe an invisible woman striptease, some stockings. Ooh baby i can see right through you!
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The Hulk, Punisher, now FF. How in the Hell do these movie makers get a studio to pony up the doe for not only one bad version of comic book, but ANOTHER version just a few years after! Make a bad movie? No problem. Just call a "DO OVER!".
I guess as long as their is money to be made, they will remake three year old movies. Except for a new Superman. That thing will never get off the ground (see what I did there?)
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And not something that looks and feels like a made-for-TV movie...from the mid-90's....that aired on FOX. Seriously Tim Story....WTF?
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I had the same exact reaction as you about the Vernon Wells comment, heh. a sad indictment that we both watch too much ESPN? anyway, I agree that there's no need to reboot this series... just start a new story with the established characters. because, A) no one fucking saw Tim Story's movies anyway. and B) the characters aren't popular enough to warrant having people sit through a second incarnation of their origin(fuck, I'm not even sure people are going to be willing to do that for Spider-man). I'm not overwhelmingly familiar with the characters, so none of the casting rumors really move me in either direction... except for Moyer. he seems like a cool guy, but come on. he's a vapid, one-dimensional and poor actor on a kitschy TV show... sound familiar? it probably does, because thats exactly what Julian McMahon was when he got cast as Doom. even though I'm not much of an F4 fan, I still know that Doom is supposed to be arguably the greatest villain in the Marvel spectrum. can't they at least attempt to do him some justice with their casting? To this day, I still wonder how Tim Story got the job in the first place, when Steven Soderbergh was practically lobbying for the job. is Fox really THAT inept?
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He has more acting chops than you'd think. He needs a shot to show us what he can do. He's earned it.
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than the big screen. Sorry but thats the way I feel. The Thing will never look like he's supposed to. Elasticity just looks stupid on the screen and the comics too. Invisiblity doesn't translate well either but force fields do surprislingly. Flame does but is tough. I just have no interest in another FF film. I love the FF and they were in my first comic too: What If 1#: What if spiderman joined the fantastic four?
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An FF movie done right could be the greatest comic book movie of them all.
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... the ever-lovin' blue-eyed Thing. Deal with it.
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Tough calls all the way around.The actors are important and I think that whoever they pick will do fine. It's the script that worries me. I want a good F.F. movie. There are so many wonderful elements to be mined from the small to the large. I am really hoping for the best.
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Seriously, people.
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...for Mr. Fantastic already!
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Cast:
-Reed Richards: Adrien Brody
-Sue Storm: Naomi Watts
-Johnny Storm: Seann William Scott
-Ben Grimm: Motion Capture/CGI James Gandolfini
-Dr. Doom: Johnny Depp, in a role that should win him a goddamned academy award. (even though the pussies in marketing won't want him to cover up his face.) Since you don't have to render Gotham City or Metropolis (just point a camera at New York City) and the Fantastic Four don't need freshly minted blue leather scuba suits or whatever the fuck you like to see them wearing(Sometimes in the comic, they wear simple blue t-shirts with the number 4 printed on them), you can spend the extra production money on a skilled WRITER and DIRECTOR who you could snap up at reasonable prices. Writer: Brad Bird. I'm sure the guy who adapted Iron Giant and wrote The Incredibles can come up with a smart, 3 act, 100 minute Fantastic Four screenplay. Director: Edgar Wright. Use your brain. Move him from Ant Man to The Fantastic Four. For The Four, you need a director who can balance often absurd action/adventure with charming humor and oddball romance but still have teeth. Shaun of the Dead captured this perfectly. (Spaced could make going to the pub seem like a comic adventure) Wright and Simon Pegg can even take a pass at the script if you like.
Instead of making 290 million on your 130 million dollar investment (plus the steep cost of wall to wall planetary summer blockbuster advertising), you could make 600 million on a more modest 110 million dollar investment. Because if you make this, we will take our boyfriends and girlfriends to see it over and over again and buy copies for all our friends on blue ray and whatever format spacemen are watching it on 2035. Because we'll feel intellectually and emotionally satisfied instead of feeling suckered and taken advantage of like when we saw:
-Daredevil
-Hulk
-The Punisher
-Blade: Trinity
-Elektra
-Fantastic Four
-X-men: The Last Stand
-Ghost Rider
-Spiderman 3
-Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
-The Incredible Hulk
-Punisher War Zone
-and X-men Origins: Wolverine.
And a special note to the many, many production VPs who feel like they need to add their faggoty, brainless opinions in order to justify their jobs: ("You know what America wants to see? They want Iron Man as a drunk hip hop DJ firing weapons at a party!") All you have to do is shut up. Just shut up. Let smart, creative people do smart, creative things and just up. Get yourself an executive producer's credit, shut the fuck up and count the piles and piles of money. If you give them a rewarding, creative atmosphere to work in, they'll make more.
Sincerely,
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He has a background in comedy, so I don't doubt he could play the Thing with the proper tone. I do, however, wonder if Willis would really commit to a project like this enough to give a shit. If he accepts but sees it as just a payday not a role, it will be bad. I do hope whoever is making this looks towards the comics (and maybe movies like The Incredibles) to get a few ideas how to do theese characters correctly though. You can't try to make it fully ..realistic or eliminate the fun factor. It's the Fantastic Four!
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'nuff said
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in CGI form and Willis will give in. The whole rebooted franchise will be shit, not any better than the last version.
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I generally agree with what you're saying but there's one thing that needs to be pointed out... you seem to be indicating that you saw the movies on your list. That shows the studios "yes, we will pay to see it no matter what... make anything." I saw two of the films on your list at the theater, two more on DVD (not rented or bought by me.) If it's plainly obvious a movie will suck, like most on your list, don't go... it only encourages them.
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I've been wanting Willis to play the Thing for exactly those reasons for over ten years. Developments like this make me feel ahead of the curve...granted, the reast of my ideal cast ten years ago probably wouldn't cut it now (Bill Pullman, Gillian Anderson and Mark-Paul Gosselar for the rest of the Four), but I still think Liam Neeson would kick ass as Dr. Doom.
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And hire a decent writer. Fuck. Who am I kidding.
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Won't happen but fuck, I had to say it. Willis as Ben is FANTASTIC! I hope that works out.
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I'd normally say it shouldn't dwell on that, but since the previous onscreen origin seemingly was all fucked up, I guess this one will have to be. Or at least, will have to devote a portion of the running time to it. I'm praying for clever writers here.
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I WANNA STICK MY COCK IN IT...."IT" = YOUR MOUTH
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Ultimate Fantastic Four was a great book in the beginning.
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also this movie is going to suck because the source material is the clown shoes of comic books. KRULLS ANYONE?
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Whose name I never learned. Moyer is only average and not menacing. Willis would be good if he'd do it. The whole thing rests on whether a director can get the tone right as Singer did with Xmen. Not that easy really. (See Thor when it comes out. I smell cheese.)
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But bautista is zeus.
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coz none of the actors are hot enough
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Since Fox/Sony don't wanna lose film rights.... could go either way I guess.. Would rather Marvel/Disney cold make these films so that any marvel character is fair game for the Avengers...
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fucking typos!!!
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http://bit.ly/akz7J2
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If they don't get a movie up and going the rites go back to marvel. Damn Fox!
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Jeez. Such a stupid fanboy complaint on my part, but I hate when people like Herc say that Thing is supposed to be Hulk-sized. He's 6-ft. No bigger. No smaller. Even at almost 5'9", Chiklis' costume put him at the right height. Same as Mr. Fantastic. Alba, at about 5'6" was ALSO the right height.
Get over it. Thing is not the Hulk. Those differences are a part of what makes the comic fights between the two so interesting. If Marvel makes Thing 8" or something then it's just going be the studio pandering to chuckleheads who've never read the comic. Just look at that cover on this thread. Not super tall -
should be Reed Richards, he looks the most like him, set in the 60's when we were still actually going into space.
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Aug 31, 2010 12:13:06 AM CDT
George Clooney, Bruce Greenwood? Thank god no one has casting po
by the founder
I like them both and their good actors, but as Reed? For the love of god it's good that some here aren't in a casting position for these comic films. Who in their right mind is gonna cast a 50 something year old actor as Reed? People come on. I don't care for Meyers as Reed cause I don't think he fit the character but I wouldn't be upset because the guy is a fine actor. The rest of the actors mentioned works for me, especially Willis as Ben.
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Aug 31, 2010 12:17:37 AM CDT
Story did the best he could with Fox hanging on his neck
by the founder
People please stop blaming Tim Story. Those films came out better becAuse of Story. Story was hired to direct and nothing more. Those F4 films were nothing more than round table committee made films.
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Fox shoved him and Galactus in their so the rites wouldn't revert back to Marvel.
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Hulk's CG is lifeles, while Avatar's Mo-Cap is alive.
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Gary Sinise would make a fantastic reed richards?
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for the shoddy treatment of Doom and the FF? If you must cast blame, then aim it at the true culprits - THE PRODUCERS AND SCREEN WRITERS...Tim Story was merely a hireling to point and shoot. He had no script or casting approval - So have a care or risk fanning the embers GLOOM'S WRATH!
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For intense graphic violence and language.Damn you, Len Wiseman. Damn you to hell!!!
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WRATH! Dang, y'all got me all upset n' shit, blamin' my man, Tim over some shit he had no say so over.
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oriented.And i love how Marvel has tried several times to make a genocidal god like Galactus into a hero.maybe because he is too similar to the murdering and sadist Yahweh god of its Jews creators.who knows.
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Fantastic Four is probably the most boring comic ever. These characters stink. Why bother making even one film, let alone a third? And why the hell would they bother re-booting it? The Fantastic Four movie (never saw No.2) stunk because the characters suck. I'm not a big fan of Marvel heroes in general, but Fantastic Four has got to be about the worst.
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Aug 31, 2010 1:11:40 AM CDT
Vernon Wells and Patrick Kilpatrick for Expendables 2
by immorganfreeman
And Dolph's in every scene. Find a way to make it happen, Sly.
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he was born to do it!
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... or even post "ideal casting"
Until I see JettL post about his meeting with the producers and seeing a rough draft of a script treatment, I won't believe anything I read.
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And I really don't believe that Willis would touch this with a bargepole.
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I mean that man will act in any and everything. No way he passes up on this EASY MONEY. He'll make millions without ever breaking a sweat.
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I'M fine with it.
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...but you might as well give this back to Roger Corman as Fox clearly don't care about the original material which in the right hands would make a wild movie. Willis is a boring idea but would work, Moyer is simply terrible - a real lightweight. Meyer would be better as Doom than as Reed. It you want to do this right just do the whole thing as a CGI feature, set it in 1965 and get a great voice cast (Clooney et al) and make a real Kirby/Buscema-style movie. That way you can do the Negative Zone properly too.
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something shitty about it, overrated and well shitty, honestly just talking about it makes me feel dirty and i prefer not to talk...about it.
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I kinda enjoyed them. The dynamics between the team members was good and considering the first had an extremely low budget it was okay. Got to agree with all the Doc Doom haters though, he was shit and the entire premise of his origin in the film was shit. I coul;dn't believe they brought him back for the second movie.
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and having all those spidy, hulk, FF, x-men, all of them around just devalues their individuality. oh look i got powers... yeah but my powers are better see... oh no im the coolest...shut the fuck up i can jump building for no reasonz...i can make burn you....hey i can do that too...yeah but i can burn myself too....oh then i cant do that...who want to play hero vs. villian?.... me me me!!!....i want to be the villain this time!....no me plz im so badass...................... and so on.
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so your wrong ganymede3010, bruce does turn down roles...the good ones.
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Search your feelings.
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Jon Stewart as Reed Richards!!!
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thats the only thing i want in life + pussy
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..Right in the pooper.
I think the whole George Clooney as reed thing is something that can be forgotten right off the bat... the only reason I can come up with is because HE'S FUCKING GEORGE CLOONEY..
I like Jom Hamm for Reed, Elizabeth Mitchell (Juliette from LOST) for Sue,I'm kinda flipping a coin between Chris Pine and Ryan Kwanten for Johnny, Jeffrey Dean Morgan for Ben... as for DOOM, well you've gotta get an ACTOR. Its fine for pulling TV and b-league actors, but the Villain has to be someone with serious chops. Someone like Jason Isaacs, Ralph Fiennes, Christoph Waltz, Daniel Craig (its not like he's doing Bond again anytime soon) however, I put Jason Isaacs first not only because he's one of my faveourite actors, but because because the last 3 on this list are have either hit, or are hitting thier straps in terms of hollywood clout and would probably command too much $. What the fuck do we know, we're just fans... we don't get to make these decisions. Still its fun to think about. -
Not being not as bad!
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I wasn't keen on how the A-Team movie was put together. I liked some of the actors in there but it was the direction and editing itself that annoyed me in that film. He doesn't get my vote for the FF movie... course what am I saying, I didn't even watch the Fantastic Four films.
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really now... brucie could do a voice over and that honestly is about it. Michael C. did a damn good job as ben grimm.
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Or, if not Reed, I always thought Daly would make an excellent Cyclops.
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Willis would work too. Clooney as Reed Richards. January Jones as Sue, Zak Efron as Johnny. Oprah Winfrey as Lockjaw, actually id like to see the Inhumans in this. or the Skrulls. Hell maybe a cameo by Ali Larter as Ms MArvel!
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they're not going to show the origin except in the credit sequence so theres no need to show willis
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Why is this so hard? Willis doing The Thing can work wonders. Johnny Storm I don't know. Mojoman,Rourke could do the Ben Grimm in his sleep.
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Couldn't have said it better. You are professional.
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How the hell can LFODH be at like 80% on RT, with DH2 and DHWAV being at 60% and 40%?
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I think she'd be perfect, and maybe James Cavasiel as Reed. I'd also say keep Chiklis as Thing though. How about Paul Walker as the Torch
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John Travolta and Kirstie Alley are The Things parents? maybe wel get a cameo and the thing is a Scientologist lol
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But otherwise I have to say that if they are "going young" with the cast, those are pretty good picks!
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Javier Bardem for Doom!
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He's got that rough, haggard, but loveable voice that would be perfect. Think about it guys, Bruce Willis has kind of a high voice. Think of Look Who's Talking. I don't think it would work quite as well as you might imagine.
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I say actually read a damn FF comic and see who the characters are and what they look like. And please, make this a 60's era adventure.
Reed Richards: I would have said Clooney if he was 10 years younger. Thin, brainy, mid 30's, American, natural leader. How about Aaron Eckhart? Darken his hair and given him the gray patches.
Sue Storm: I actually like January Jones for Sue Storm. Aside from the name iliteration, she's hot and actually looks like Sue.
Ben Grimm: For the few scenes of him as Astronaut Ben Grimm, Willis would work well. I'm not sure that his wise-ass McClain voice could go low enough for The Thing, though.
Johnny Storm: Younger kid brother type, full of himself and hot after the ladies. How about really blonde Anton Yelchin up and make him The Human Torch?
Victor Von Doom: Well, here's the thing...we shouldn't ever see Doom's actual face...he should be a man of mystery, like Darth Vader once was...only a glipse of the carnage beneath the helmet. Moyer has intensity and already has a European accent. Could work.
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Need I say more?
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...visiting the Baxter Building. People already holding action figures and dolls, etc.
A tour guide dressed like a sexy 60s airline hostess tells people about the Fantastic Four and plays an animated movie. (In Kirby-style animation) that shows their origin.
Right then, a huge monster pops up from the earth and the FF defeat it. Cue cheering crowds, and Johnny signs an 8x10 of himself and throws it to some women.
Cue the opening credits...
Also, the plot would be... -
What more do you need? Your character will already be identified as a square and a nerd from day one.
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Yeah, good luck with that. The last thing Willis wants is some t.v. star's sloppy seconds.
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Actually the best actor from the two lame FF movies was Chiklis (and to some extent, Chris evans.)as the guy brought credibility to the films. As for mr. F, well, orghinally I would have picked clooney but same answer as with willis.There's always John Hamm, but he's more of a robust/stoic guy than some brainiac aka Richards. A reboot cant be as bad as tim's past abominations.
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alice eve, super butterface... rhys meyer guy, terrible actor... bill compton, "sooooookie"
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If we're talking CGI and voiceover absofrigginlutely. The Borg is 93 and still kicking strong.
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nuff said
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I thought McMahon did a great job as Doom. When The mask was on he made Doom come alive.
But I think Viggo Mortensen, Gary Oldman or Sean Bean would be the ideal Doom.
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What? Does it make too much sense? Since we're only talking voice here.I can just picture it now. Some studio exec mulls it over then says, "He isn't bald enough. And his voice sounds too... Brooklyn..."::eyeroll::
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I don't give a flying shit what any of you supergeeks say--Tim Story did a good job on his FF films. I'm an older guy and Story definitely captured the flavor of the early Kirby-Lee comics. The only truly fatal flaw was in the handling of Dr. Doom--admittedly a pencil-neck prettyboy with a lame California accent just doesn't cut it as Doom. Every non-geek (meaning a person not retardly prejudiced against the same things as his lame ass peer group for no rational reason other than his seething leftover rejected-by-my-highschool-girlfriend resentment) I spoke to who saw the films liked them. They weren't blown away by them, but they honestly enjoyed them. And those films were not unsuccesful financially, either--both made tens of millions in pure profit. But Marvel is actually only looking for Spider-Man or Iron Man sized bux, and quickly give up on the regular-sized profits of your FFs and your Hulks with quick re-boot stops and starts.
On another subject, I dont tink this True Blood pencilneck would be any better a Doom than the pencilneck from Nip/Tuck was. What they need is someone like Mickey Roarke. Someone with a deep, menancing voice and more than a touch of obsessive craziness. -
Thats kind of a lot of typing only to prove you're still fucking wrong.
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who thought the FF movies were entertaining.It has nothing to do with being a geek, the films were awful. Besides Evans, everything was wrong. Bad acting, poor stories, and very boring movies.
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he should just stick to comedies instead of turning a beloved comic based IP into some slapstick shitfest.
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he'll be wearing a mask 100 percent of the time barring any flashbacks. Rickman would be great. I was thinking Viggo too, but his voice is just too smooth.
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Don't know about the rest of the cast, although they seem like good, attractive actors. Obviously, they are going kind of young. Always thought of Reed as Robert Ryan. Biq question is will this version have Reed's super lab and gadgets, plus the (expensive) galaxy bending FF story?
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Aug 31, 2010 1:01:03 PM CDT
Hollywood milking cool comic book characters for the money.
by crazybubba
What uninspired casting ideas. I love Willis but he is to old for Ben Grimm.
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Story "should just stick to comedies instead of turning a beloved comic based IP into some slapstick shitfest."?
The original FF had lots of humor. That's why I liked Story's take on the material--he was going back to the FF golden age instead of the crappy serious later version after hack morons had ruined the comic's charm. -
"Thats kind of a lot of typing only to prove you're still fucking wrong."
Dude--you used only a few words to not defend your apparant point of view at all! That's what I hate about 99% of fanboys--they're faux-passionate about certain issues, but have no idea why and therefore will never admit that they're just riding the fanboy wave without thinking about it a damn bit. Fanboy=total conformist. -
Is he entering the Has-Been status already? He could start a club with Tom Cruise, Richard Gere, Harrison Ford and Arnold The Governor.
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Reed- Bruce Greenwood
Sue- Malin Ackerman
Ben- Jeffrey Dean Morgan
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Please, if there is a God, cast Doom with someone of some f*cking gravitas!!! Neeson, Fiennes - anyone but another TV cast off. Otherwise - I'll be downloading AGAIN Hollywood :(
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The Thing is not tall. He's shorter than reed, slightly taller than Johnnie.
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Your gripe would be legitimate if Tim Story has a hand in writing the script and producing, but he didn't! He was hired as the DIRECTOR.
Blaming Tim Story for the artistic clusterfuck that was F.F. movie adaptations is like blaming Bret Ratner for the artistic failure of X3. -
Just ask Kevin Smith. So why pay Bruce's salary when he won't even apear onscreen? Unless they ARE doing an origin again, which seems profoundly stupid.
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Why shoudn't you blame Brett Ratner for the fuck up of X-MEN 3? He is just, like, the FUCKING DIRECTOR of the whole bloody thing! Isempt Ratner from that fuck ups of X-MEN 3? THAT'S A LAUGHT!! Hysterical!
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All actors who have already played comic book characters before. That's some imaginative casting you got there, pal! Typecasting much, are we?
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He could pull that shit off!Also, I love the idea of Bruce Greenwood for Reed. Make that shit happen.
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"Why shoudn't you blame Brett Ratner for the fuck up of X-MEN 3? He is just, like, the FUCKING DIRECTOR of the whole bloody thing!"
Are you retarded, or do you just know nothing about how studio films are made? If you'd read any of the trades at the time (or even AICN & Entertainment Weekly) you'd know that Ratner was virtually a last minute replacement as director. He had no say in the casting, screenplay, storyline, effects sequences, costumes, etc. He was simply hired to shoot the screenplay the producers had already decided on with 99% of the creative decisions already made. Singer and Nolan on the other hand had creative control of their superhero pics from day one. If you want to "blame" someone for X3 (and there's really no one to blame because anyone with half a brain of his own can see it's virtually identical to X and X2) then you have to blame the producers--they are the ones who set the project in motion without a clear direction and without the original creative team. -
Rickman would have been spectacular as Doom 10-15 years ago. He's the fucking man, but Doom can't be much older than Reed, right?
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"Is he entering the Has-Been status already? He could start a club with Tom Cruise, Richard Gere, Harrison Ford and Arnold The Governor."
I think that question was answered back when the Willer took a bit part in "Planet Terror."
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According to your logic, I sholdnt blame Micheal Bay for the fuckup that was the past transformers films.Amirite?Asi would know. (0:'Story was hired to helm the film and not as some last minute directing choice.He obviously was not too familiar with the Comic otherwise he would have offered creavtive input instead of all the bullshit shinanigans (did i spell that one right?) that went on throughout the first film. And Alba as Sue was a real shitty casting choice.Even if it wasnt his idea, he could have said something in regards to her getting the part.I guess i'll give Bryan Singer a pass for fucking up Superman Returns.yuuuuppppppp.
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Great casting ideas.Shit, maybe you should be hired for judging the auditions instead of these lame hollywood hacks.
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These comics just have dynamics that do not, will not, can not translate to the film medium.
You cant capture the essence of FF without a Kirby-esque approach and a) that is a 60s style that doesn't fit today's culture and b) it would look ridiculously implausible on screen. Imagine a set the size and scope of Aliens or Bladerunner, and then throw in a stretchy guy and a dude covered in orange rocks.
GL is the same way. You want to satisfy fans you gotta do Oa and Kilowog and giant green boxing gloves. Tell me how anyone not a comic geek that saw Spider-Man or Iron Man goes to see that movie. -
Your beef is with the PRODUCERS AND TOM ROTHMAN, not Tim Story.
By your logic, Tim Story prior to being hired as the director, had MAJOR juice (POWER). Remember, prior to the F.F. he only had the WHASSSUPPP Budweiser commercial and that Nick Cannon movie, DRUMBEAT.
He had no say so in the casting or the script...Your Michael Bay comparison is laughable, due to Bay's (already) proven B.O. track record and Industry power, which Tim Story does not HAVE!
So in closing, I reiterate, your beef is with the Producers, Tom Rothman and the Script writers, not Tim Story! -
In fact, i'm pretty cold to the movie. I can hardly muster an interest about it. If the movie is good, fine, but if it's bad, there's no raping of childhood happening. Unless the movie is so horribly badly made and stupidly dumbed down like Jar Jar Abrams's latest, then i might feel something about it.
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Jack Kirby did go on record as saying that Dr. Doom had only sustained a small scar from the explosion. In fact, Kirby drew a convention sketch for a fan of Doom unmasked revealing the tiny scar. My interpretation of why Doom would subsequently disfigure his entire face by donninghis red-hot iron mask is that he could not bear to look at the scar because it reminded him that Reed was right about his miscalculations, and that he was wrong thus proving Reed Richards' intellectual superiority. Personally, I would love to see an F.F. story pursue the idea that Reed actually came up with his most incredibly advanced inventions and discoveries AFTER his exposure to cosmic rays. Dr. Doom would then attempt to augment his own mental abilities through cosmic ray exposure (perhaps siphoning it off the entire Fantastic Four), since he already considers himself to be smarter than Richards. It could be the basis for an interesting comic book, if not film.
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Aug 31, 2010 5:50:57 PM CDT
If Willis plays BEN GRIM - he won't have to worry about being BA
by jonchambers
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Aug 31, 2010 5:52:52 PM CDT
If he does, it's a step down- being a voice in an Ensemble
by jonchambers
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Aug 31, 2010 9:05:46 PM CDT
If movie FF were tied in with movie Avengers universe...
by immortal_fish
Doom would be getting his arch nemesis groove on through some Asgardian tech. A shame what could have been. Instead, lame Fox will find another way to screw the character again. FF1 at least laid the template out for Doom to really be Doom in FF2, yet they opted to fumble again instead.Count me in on the Viggo train. Although someone above mentioned Clive Owen and I agree he would work well too.
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Very few people care about the Fantastic Four. They seem kinda naff to non-fanboys.
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Aug 31, 2010 10:13:53 PM CDT
Evans & Chikilis were the only reason I enjoyed Foxtastic Fuck
by david_boreanez_cunt_hairz
They had the personality.
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He's really just brushed aside in Iron Man.
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Reed looks like an idiot stretching his arms in short sleeves - maybe in civilian clothes. Didn't hate the last two FF movies as much as other fans, but whatever.
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of January Jones. Beautiful skinny blonds like her always have great looking crotches.
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At least X-Men and Spider-Man have pending filming schedules and some casting!!! Apparently... ( was it LIONSGATE?!?!?! I forgot.??? ) the studio with rights to the Punisher lost them to Marvel/Disney... I bet any studio with any peace of Marvel Cinematic Universe without Marvel/Disney sanction wanna spin stuff madly before they are cut out and we see things sealed in the Disney vault forever like some Disney classics!!!!!
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Just say NO to McTieigue!!!! That guy is a worse hack than Lucas. Has zero skills for making a movie, and would automatically guarantee that this movie would bomb. Hell, RATNER would be a better choice than the guy who gave us the steaming piles known as V for Vendetta and Ninja Assassin!!
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But, as long as we're dream-casting: George Clooney for Mr. Fantastic, Naomi Watts for The Invisible Woman, Justin Timberlake for The Human Torch, and James Earl Jones for the voice of Dr. Doom.
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