Aug. 17, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST
than tickets to the actual movie. Zing!
Aug. 17, 2010, 9:38 a.m. CST
And you think Scott Pilgrim will sell less tickets? I know you're only joking to make yourself appear 'amusing', but that still makes you a fucking idiot.
Aug. 17, 2010, 9:39 a.m. CST
but I'm not a fan of this poster. I usually like what Mondo does, but this one isn't grabbing me. And I'm a big fan of the movie.
Aug. 17, 2010, 9:41 a.m. CST
Have a nice day.
Aug. 17, 2010, 9:50 a.m. CST
Aug. 17, 2010, 9:51 a.m. CST
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
You know, the one with real men on it.
Aug. 17, 2010, 9:55 a.m. CST
No need to get defensive. The movie looks interesting.
Aug. 17, 2010, 9:57 a.m. CST
not so hot on the variant though.
Aug. 17, 2010, 9:57 a.m. CST
Since you're only competing with around 5 people.
Aug. 17, 2010, 9:59 a.m. CST
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:01 a.m. CST
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:02 a.m. CST
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST
Umm. No I don'd. His stuff is shit.
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST
by mr teaspoon
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:15 a.m. CST
He looks like a zombie or soemthing.
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST
hey, how's it going buddy, how do you feel? everything ok? how was the weekend? good? great! ok man see you around then, later
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:17 a.m. CST
YOUR MOVIE SUCKED THE BALLS!
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST
I just like the variant one because it is ORANGE :) I like the poster, have not seen the movie, nor read the graphic novels ... but the poster is kinda cool If i win, i'd be willing to share. Don;t need 2 posters ...
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:23 a.m. CST
"Hipsters are the friends who sneer when you cop to liking Coldplay. They're the people who wear t-shirts silk-screened with quotes from movies you've never heard of and the only ones in America who still think Pabst Blue Ribbon is a good beer. They sport cowboy hats and berets and think Kanye West stole their sunglasses. Everything about them is exactingly constructed to give off the vibe that they just don't care." — Time, July 2009
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:25 a.m. CST
by Sailor Rip
I fit none of that except damn I like me some PBR.
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:29 a.m. CST
by Righteous Brother
made more money than Scott Pilgrim and Kick Ass combined.
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:30 a.m. CST
in the second poster, you haven't seen the movie.
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:33 a.m. CST
nothing like cheap wine (and cheaper women!)
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:37 a.m. CST
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:38 a.m. CST
them Aussie's love that PBR!
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST
that's a real rock 'n' roll band!
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:49 a.m. CST
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Aug. 17, 2010, 11:02 a.m. CST
by Righteous Brother
The problem with Scott Pilgrim, is that it looks too much like its trying to be a cult film. And us real geeks don't like that sort of thing, we can see we're being targeted a mile off, and we rebel. We're the ones who decide if something is cool or worthy of our attention or not, not the fucking studios. I love Shaun of the Dead, and I loved Spaced - but this Scott Pilgrm just leaves me cold. And I'm so Scott Pilgrim fan - you just come across as tragic.
Aug. 17, 2010, 11:07 a.m. CST
I was gonna see it last weekend, but after expendables rocked my world and scott pilgrim made like 40 bucks opening day, i kinda lost interest. But i might see it this friday...or maybe i'll go check out piranha 3d instead?
Aug. 17, 2010, 11:20 a.m. CST
to the theaters playing Scott Pilgrim, tumble weeds and shame pour out.
Aug. 17, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST
by Sailor Rip
I'll check the link when I get home. No You-tube or any video access here at work. I'm assuming it's Hopper but if it is or isn't don't tell me.
Aug. 17, 2010, 11:51 a.m. CST
by Sailor Rip
...made close to or even more money next weekend. Word of mouth might do it. I didn't see it so I can't say if it's actually good but people who have seem to like it. Scream opened with 6 mil and grossed over 100.
Aug. 17, 2010, 11:52 a.m. CST
Who gives a flying FUCK what the box office success or failure is of this film, outside of those invested in it? You dumb mother fuckers prattle on and on here about it "being a flop". Get a fucking life. If you like the film, great, if you don't, too bad and move onto the next film. The assembled lot of these forums is the lowest of the low and I pray to baby-come-teenage Jesus™ every night that Darwin comes for most of you. And to the cunt who tried to lump "us real geeks" together with your bullshit call to action on what is worthy of cult status? GO fuck a house cat. You sound as pathetic as the emo kids trying to rebel against the system. Pay no attention to the advertising and simply see a film for what it is, make a decision on whether you like it or not and that is that. It's REAL easy to ignore the hype and talking heads.
Aug. 17, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST
I know it's no longer funny, but I still love saying it.
Aug. 17, 2010, 12:15 p.m. CST
Thanks for asking though.
Aug. 17, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST
Aug. 17, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST
The target audience for "Scott Pilgrim" is downloading the film for free. Fact!
Aug. 17, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST
I'm going to see pilgrim later, IT BETTER BE GOOD SCOTTPILGRIMFAN!
Aug. 17, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST
Expendables will likely see a big drop but probabaly bring in at least 10 million, Piranha 3D is going to surprise I think and likely win the weekend with 25-30 million. But scott Pilgrim is going to fade away pretty fast, it will likely have a MacGruber like box office run, all but forgoten in under a month, except Macgruber only cost 10 mil, Pilgrim was like a 60 mil budget making it a big bob-omb for universal and hopefully Marvel realises that edgar wright should not be directing and hands ant-man to someone else
Aug. 17, 2010, 12:41 p.m. CST
by Abominable Snowcone
from Mondo's Iron Man 2? Send me them.
Aug. 17, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST
...like two months ago I said Harry was going to turn his readers against Scott Pilgrim by shoving it down our throats and that's pretty much exactly what's happened, by the looks of things. Do you guys who run the site not notice this happen each time a new film you decide everybody must love comes out? It's cool that you're friends with Edgar Wright and love shrines to geekiness and all, but even half of the articles you ran on Scott Pilgrim would have been overkill. <br> <br> That said the movie itself is good, and funny, and full of comic book and video game references, so unless you're absolutely allergic to twentysomething "hipsters" then you'd probably like it. However, that Struzan-esque poster doesn't match the tone of the film at all.
Aug. 17, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST
They sure work hard at it
Aug. 17, 2010, 12:55 p.m. CST
Love Edgar Wright. He has excellent taste in movies, a great sense of humour and his first two flicks were amazing. Scott Pilgrim just doesn't excite me: like everything else about Toronto, SP just tries way too hard.
Aug. 17, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST
Wasn't surprised this flick went into the toilet. If you read this site, however, you would think it was the next 'Avatar'. There has to be a sponsorship deal. Always thought some reviews here were studio-driven. Probably the majority. Weak.
Aug. 17, 2010, 1:24 p.m. CST
Box Office numbers help and hurt a movie. Shitty opening weekend, no one wants to give it a try. Monster weekend, people will check it out. For better or worse.<br><br>And I would say the BO is a good gauge of how great a movie is. Check out the top 20 highest grossing movies of all time. Tell me some of your favorite flicks aren't on there. <br><br>Personally, I could give a shit how a movie does. I skipped Pilgrim because it looks fucking stupid. The fact it bombed makes me think I'm not alone. For those who dig it, rock on. Buy the DVD so the studio can try and break even. Get it from Amazon via the AICN link so they can make money too.
Aug. 17, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST
Casting Mike sara in the role was a mistep, he's proven in the past that he can't carry a film on his own and frankly people are sick of his schtick.
Aug. 17, 2010, 1:45 p.m. CST
Say what you will, but at least Mondo routinely puts up swag for Ain't It Cool News to dish out! Thanks Mondo and thanks Aint It Cool News!
Aug. 17, 2010, 2 p.m. CST
by Arcadian Del Sol
But Jason Schwartzman did another fine job. This guy should be getting a LOT more work, and its a shame he isn't. He was absolutely BRILLIANT in Marie Antoinette.
Aug. 17, 2010, 2:09 p.m. CST
by Six Demon Bag
box office means shit..look at how much money that film made. scott pilgrim was ingenious
Aug. 17, 2010, 2:14 p.m. CST
by Star Hump
in AICN coverage. 11, maybe 12, threads? Well, you have to give teenage girls and the twinks something to enjoy too. Keeps things balanced.
Aug. 17, 2010, 2:17 p.m. CST
by Arcadian Del Sol
THAT SCOTT PILGRIM WILL BE A CRAP MOVIE.<p> .<p> .<p> oh wait, wrong date. Sorry - I meant to show up in January.<p> nevermind.
Aug. 17, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST
never heard of him
Aug. 17, 2010, 2:44 p.m. CST
And have to ACTUALLY like something or take some sort of stand on ANYTHING and actually mean it? Oh! Right! It's called GROWING UP. Well, that's inevitable, right? Well, how about ACTUALLY CREATING SOMETHING OF SUBSTANCE? How about GENERATING A DISCERNABLE IDEA OR AESTHETIC YOU HAVEN'T RIPPED OFF and DEFANGED FOR EASE OF CONSUMPTION. I FUCKING! HATE! HIPSTERS! HATE THEM! They are THE WORST GENERATION. <br><br>Seriously, there's always been annoying scenesters, but Hipsters (tm) are THE WORST wannabe subculture of all time. OF ALL TIME! At least in the 80s (and somewhat in the 90s; that's when the worm started to turn) the underground music scene was REAL and populated with cool people making cool stuff just for the sake of it and maybe making some friends. You fucking douchebag millenials don't have that; you have some sad pose of that in which you endlessly devour each other, and yourselves, in neverending feedback loop of boring, bland, creatively bankrupt self-obsession. You haven't created ONE standout thing. Not ONE! It's AMAZING! You cannibalize other stuff, remove any of the cool context that made it cool, and then jerk off to it as if you made something new. It's a SAD, lame state of affairs when the OLDEHEADS are COOLER than the kids. I mean, really. You should all commit suicide now.
Aug. 17, 2010, 2:46 p.m. CST
Why are hipster movies so damn boring?
Aug. 17, 2010, 2:48 p.m. CST
Seriously, THE WORST GENERATION.
Aug. 17, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST
I've found the term is completely useless. It's too big a tent. If you are young and you live, once lived, or aspire to one day live near a city (any city, doesn't even have to be a city) then someone probably thinks you're a hipster. If you own a bicycle, you're a hipster. If you own a new model car, you're a hipster. If you own an old model car you're trying to fix up, you're a hipster. If you use a skateboard, you're a hipster. If you drink bottled water, you're a hipster. If you don't drink bottled water because it's stupid to pay for bottled water, you're a hipster. If you have ever planned on entering a Starbucks, you're a hipster. If you like a new band, you're a hipster. If you only like old bands, you're a hipster. If you're in a band, you're a hipster. If you hate all bands, you're a hipster. If you like comic books, hate comic books, like movies, hate movies, call movies "films", are directing a movie, shower twice a day, haven't showered in a month, part your hair, shaved your head, grown a beard, shaved your beard, owned a dog, hate dogs, eat cats, live on the moon, fly your pet emu to work, or listen to the Arcade Fire, then you indeed, are a hipster. There's just too much overlap into too many other subcultures for it to even be a subculture. I hate them all the same, but the term has just lost all meaning. We should all just go back to labeling douchey people douchebags and call it a day.
Aug. 17, 2010, 3:23 p.m. CST
by I am_NOTREAL
Its failure is no cause for either triumph or dismay for me. But it's easy to see why it failed - no one, outside of fans of the original material, COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FUCK IT WAS ABOUT. That + the fact that Michael Cera is not leading man material = bomb.
Aug. 17, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST
by Sailor Rip
I said it was, and I am still not sure what a hipster is, and someone said it wasn't. If he would have said it was I might have this whole "hipster" thing in my sights. Is it?
Aug. 17, 2010, 3:43 p.m. CST
Aug. 17, 2010, 4:06 p.m. CST
Remember when we used to call you gayboy and you'd get all mad?
Aug. 17, 2010, 4:09 p.m. CST
he's been the big hold out because he's such a "big star" well after pilgrim bombed he'll probabaly play geroge micheal for 10 bucks and a free lunch
Aug. 17, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST
Your fucking out, I'm fucking in!
Aug. 17, 2010, 4:46 p.m. CST
"I would say the BO is a good gauge of how great a movie is. Check out the top 20 highest grossing movies of all time."<br><br> Did you seriously fucking say that? You mean the Top 20 that includes Spider-Man 3, The Phantom Menace, Pirates Of The Caribbean 2, Shrek 2, Transformers 2, the new Alice In Wonderland, The Passion Of The Christ, Revenge Of The Sith and fucking Titanic? Half that list is GARBAGE NONSENSE. People eat up shit all the time, and the times when they go for something with any quality at all, its because the movie can pass through their stupid fucking brains with very little effort. The less they have to think, the better. Most of the good movies in the top 20 could be understood by a 4 year old. Hell, most of that list is films made for children. Give me a fucking break with "The Box Office says a lot about a film's quality." Do you realize how many of the greatest films ever made were box office underperformers, if not downright flops? Are you even a fan of cinema? Wow, I have to stop myself, cause I don't think I want the answer to that question.
Aug. 17, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST
by Viewer 3
Aug. 17, 2010, 5:44 p.m. CST
suck it fag/fanboys
Aug. 17, 2010, 5:48 p.m. CST
Soft-spoken, androgynous, he never ages and he has the muscle mass of a veal calf. ELOI!
Aug. 17, 2010, 5:50 p.m. CST
because I heard good things about it from several people who only bitch about films when there is a reason.
Michael_Jacksons_Ghost, you're head and shoulders better than that other MJ guy.
He's not fit to lick your boots. Although his height makes him tailor made to do so.
Aug. 17, 2010, 6:12 p.m. CST
"What Will Hipsters Do When They Run Out Of Irony And have to ACTUALLY like something or take some sort of stand on ANYTHING and actually mean it?"<p> It seems readily apparent that they took a stand on SCOTT PILGRIM...they stayed away in droves.
Aug. 17, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST
How's suckin dick workin' out for ya?
Aug. 17, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST
Aug. 17, 2010, 7:12 p.m. CST
It was fun. You know, fun? Remember that? Ahh, whatever. I saw it, I liked it, I told others to see it and they liked it too. All this talk about box office and hipsters and target audiences and irony and geeks means squat to me. When I decide what movie I want to see, I decide based only on my own opinions and instincts and not those of others. Sure, I've been optimistic and gotten burned (MacGruber), but I've found plenty of movies that I liked a lot among movies that didn't top the box office or faded unfortunately quickly from theatres. I'm glad I trusted my instincts this time and saw a movie I enjoyed, not because I fell into a target demographic or because a bunch of guys on a website told me it was good.
Aug. 17, 2010, 7:29 p.m. CST
Aug. 17, 2010, 8:29 p.m. CST
Went to see it opening day. I liked it, but it wasn't anything to "NUT" over. And honestly, Cera reminded me of a robot the whole film...he was the only fucking one in the whole film that I personally thought was a fuck up on Edgar's part. Shit if you made Cera your leading role, I am wondering who he was up against for the role, Norm MacDonald?! Anywho, I love comics, but not "emo" enough to buy the SP books. So, I guess that would explain why I didn't jizz in the theater like others did. Atleast that would explain for the sticky floor.
Aug. 17, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST
I totally enjoyed this thing. Sure it has some weak points but it's got way too much going for it. The fact that it's being rejected now is merely a setup for it's inevitable cult status a'la Tron.
Aug. 17, 2010, 8:46 p.m. CST
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:09 p.m. CST
by Ye Not Guilty
I believe it was screened for critics. I have been curious what Ebert would think about it. Seems he skipped it, though.
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:13 p.m. CST
But actually the constant barrage of references and stories and obnoxious talk-backers completely turned me off from seeing the film.<P> Again I'm sure it's cool & entertaining, but I feel zero urge to see it in the movies (not that I really did before mind you) but in the back of my mind every online cunt touting the movie as the NEXT BIG THING killed the flick for me and everyone I know. <P>Now it'll just be a solid netflix rental in a few months.
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:22 p.m. CST
"I'm sick of unoriginal movies and re-boots and re-makes. Give me something original and fresh and fun and exciting. Something that the suits haven't gotten their mitts on and ruined with the typical Hollywood money grab mentality. I want someone to really take a chance with something fresh and new." Well there is this movie out called Scott Pilgrim vs. the World. It is really fun and new and original and exciting and just a real blast. You should see that. "Ah, that hipster video-game movie that the guys at AICN got paid off to promote the hell out of and pumped up like it was the second coming of Star Wars? Nah, I'll stay away and check out some re-hashed formula movie instead. In the meantime, I'll bitch and moan about the lack of original movies coming out of Hollywood." And there you have it. I thought SPVTW was great.
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:35 p.m. CST
Exaggerate much?<P> It's a very broad assumption to claim people who didn't see SPVTW did so in favor of checking out some "re-hashed formula movie" instead. <P> I guess those are THE ONLY OPTION RIGHT? This movie or something re-hashed. <P>Being put off by idiots online or an overabundance of advertising is only part of the equation simply brought up for the purposes of discussion.<P> Instead of getting pissy and sarcastic about it try acting like an adult and simply state why you feel the film is "great". <P>That would prove more useful than a paragraph loaded with argument fallacies and crap.
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:55 p.m. CST
@ Tenenbaum ... while expendables was floating around online by Saturday, a cam version of Scott P. still has to show up. So far nothing ...
Aug. 17, 2010, 10:56 p.m. CST
Sarcasm lost on you much? Of course I was making a point by being pretty broad and all, and no, a re-hash isn't the ONLY option. BUT... My point is that I constantly hear people complain about the lack of something original and then when something original DOES come out, people stay away in droves. Remember all the bitching about the horror re-makes and the cry for something new? Well all the re-makes hit the number one spot at the box office and an original movie like Splice is forgotten in a week. And it took some guts for someone to push Splice to get a wide release. My point is that unless we reward those that take some chances, we will keep getting the remakes and formula movies. SPVTW was fresh. It took some chances. It was just fun and new. It isn't going to change the world and it won't break records all over the world, but just because it was a bit overhyped (and it was on here to be honest) doesn't mean it isn't good.
Aug. 17, 2010, 11:06 p.m. CST
I agree man.
Aug. 17, 2010, 11:11 p.m. CST
Aug. 17, 2010, 11:38 p.m. CST
by Viewer 3
Aug. 17, 2010, 11:42 p.m. CST
Thanks man. Isn't this how we should all behave? How we can all "get along?" Keep dreamin'
Aug. 17, 2010, 11:53 p.m. CST
Aug. 17, 2010, 11:57 p.m. CST
Hugs as well. lol
Aug. 18, 2010, 4:59 a.m. CST
I'm not 19 anymore, so this Scott Pilgrim thing isn't in my orbit at all. It sounds vaguely familar. I'll ask my 17 year old cousin, maybe he knows. Or one of his friends.
Aug. 18, 2010, 6:24 a.m. CST
Aug. 18, 2010, 6:26 a.m. CST
and you know this... When you make a shitty movie put some tits in it add some blood and guts and then 3d it, instant win. I'm so there dude. Tits, Gore, Really bad 3d. Pilgrim failed. I guess these means no Them/Theylive remake.
Aug. 18, 2010, 6:28 a.m. CST
I saw you get the rock and terry crews in that mother fucker. Mickey Rourke for the cheese dipface from 1957.
Aug. 18, 2010, 8:47 a.m. CST
by John Maddening
We didn't get a chance to see it until Sunday, but it was a lot of fun the whole way through.
Aug. 18, 2010, 9:31 a.m. CST
if you didn't like it, you're probably too old or curmudgeonly for me to talk to you. or you're just an aicn talkbacker, in which case no one ever talks to you in real life anyway, so it's no big loss.
Aug. 18, 2010, 11:53 a.m. CST
Poor Laserpants. He lives in a world that doesn't exist anymore. Back in my day we had a real underground scene, we made things that were REAL, and MEANT something, and CHANGED the WORLD. WE liked things that were WORTH being liked. WAH WAH . Oldeheads are cool than the kids. LAME state of AFFAIRS. The OLD HEADS are COOLER than the KIDS, those HIPSTERS, those HIPSTERS aren't as cool as us OLD HEADS. WE know what is COOL.The OLD HEADS, know what is COOL and REAL. WE, the OLD HEADS, would CONSUME things that were REAL and were of SUBSTANCE. NOW THE AFFAIRS ARE SAD BECAUSE AICN IS THE ONLY PLACE WHERE I CAN FIND SOMEONE TO LISTEN TO ME AND TELL ME MY IDEAS ARE REALLY COOL AND CORRECT TO HELP ME GET THROUGH MY LONG DAYS WHILE THE UNDERSERVING HIPSTER GENERATION GETS BLOWN BY HOT 19 YEAR OLD HIPSTER GIRLS.LASERPANTS. I AM RELIC. LASER PANTS as the REAL, COOL, RELIC. LASER PANTS, a RELIC, that MEANS something IMPORTANT.
Aug. 18, 2010, 12:59 p.m. CST
Good job Wright. A little too cutesy for my taste though, and Cera's fighting face is goofy. Bring on the 3rd chapter of the blood and ice cream trilogy.
Aug. 18, 2010, 1 p.m. CST
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Aug. 18, 2010, 5:17 p.m. CST
"Check out the top 20 highest grossing movies of all time." I might have talked out of my ass on that one.<br><br>I was thinking more along the lines of Star Wars, E.T., maybe The Dark Knight. Wasn't taking into account all the turds that made it on the top 20 all-time list. You're right, point taken. Maybe I'm trying to forget that 'Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen' is the 10th highest grossing. <br><br>The simple fact is, more often that not, shitty movies flop in the B.O. Do I need to suffer through 'The Last Airbender' to know it sucks, or can I go by pittance it generated? It is a good gauge. Do I only go to movies that debut #1? Fuck no. By no stretch do only 'great' films make it on the all-time list. <br><br>I am a fan of cinema. I'm also a fan of not tossing cash at a flick that looks lame and makes no money. Truth be told, Pilgrim could have made a ton of cash, still wouldn't have checked it out.
Aug. 18, 2010, 5:24 p.m. CST
...not 'The Last Airbender.' I think that flick actually did alright.
Aug. 19, 2010, 1 p.m. CST
...but then again, i thought it was an 18th century period piece about the struggles of the earliest American settlers. Boy was I wrong!
Aug. 21, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST
this is Rocky. You the man Quint! You totally just made my summer! Thank you and the guys at mondo! These definitely have a space on my wall. Scott Pilgrim was my personal favorite flick of this year! Wow man, I couldn't be happier right now. Me and the wife are gonna toast to you and aicn tonight!
Aug. 27, 2010, 4:19 p.m. CST
Aug. 31, 2010, 2:58 a.m. CST
I can't even sell them on Ebay. No one wants posters from this bomb of a movie.
Sept. 2, 2010, 5:57 a.m. CST
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Sept. 3, 2010, 9:48 a.m. CST
Doh. Only saw the movie last weekend...twice :-D
Sept. 17, 2010, 6:47 a.m. CST
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Sept. 25, 2010, 10:22 p.m. CST
Why would I want a poster to such a crap "geekbait" (did I mention CRAP) movie that no one but losers and troubled loners embraced....?