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How Do You Stop A TERMINATOR In Its Tracks?? A Cease & Desist Order Is One Way...

Merrick here...
Last Friday, we learned that a company called Hannover House was developing a movie called TERMINATOR 3000 - a $70 million, PG-13, animated theatrical film. In my write-up on the matter, I indicated that T3000 felt like the kind of picture that might not ever come together. Something about the announcement felt fishy, and I couldn't quite put my finger on why. But now we know. Seems Hannover House doesn't have the rights to make a damn TERMINATOR movie, and announced their intention prematurely.
Hannover House CEO Eric Parkinson told me earlier today that he issued the announcement only because one of the potential production partners spoke publicly about it. He said he was awaiting reply from WME, the agency repping the Terminator film rights. [EDIT] Hannover House's Eric Parkinson said that he just got his cease and desist letter, and then told Pacificor's attorneys of his proprietary rights position, and the fact that he's got backers in place to make a movie and deliver a big rights fee to Pacificor. "We've arranged a meeting, we'll show them our money and if the rational brain prevails, they'll take the deal. If not, I can't do it without them. You'll have a followup next week that we are either holding hands, or not doing the film. At least we now have our meeting.
...says Deadline HERE. "At least we now have our meeting." My personal, completely unsubstantiated conjecture is that the project may've been announced in this fashion to ignite some sort of Geek groundswell that the T3000 folks hoped would expedite the attainment/resolution of these pesky rights. I.e. to get attention. Again, that's merely a guess...and only a guess...not an accusation or assertion of any type. More to come as we know more.
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  • Aug. 16, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Is anyone surprised?

    by Jehovahs_Witness

    Terminator is dead in the water.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Parkinson believes he owns the animation rights.

    by NinjaRap

    He claims that animation rights were not included in the sale to Halcyon years ago, who in turn sold their rights to Pacificor. However, if he wants to go theatrical with the release, Parkinson DOES claim that he needs Pacificor's blessing. If these claims are at all true, the cease-and-desist will only be a temporary roadblock. He can easily downsize this to a direct-to-video project... which honestly makes more sense anyway. When was the last time you saw a theatrical animated film with a PG-13 rating hit it big in America? Never.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 10:46 a.m. CST

    hmmm, where did I hear this?

    by matthooper8

    Oh yeah, I posted it two or three days ago in the original story's talkback.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Failure!

    by FreeMonk

    When are these movie execs going to realise that a Terminator movie without Cameron = Failure. T3 & T4 were both poor movies. Leave the francise alone, it's already been butchered twice. Don't butcher it for a third time.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Would never work anyway

    by John_McClanes_Vest

    Flogging a dead horse. Arnold is old, Cameron has moved on and Stan Winston is dead. So is this francise.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Hannover House and Terminator

    by SmokingRobot

    Are done professionally.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Harry? Did Nolan Trash Your Lights???

    by HarryWhereIsYourInceptionReview

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 10:49 a.m. CST

    I'm officially announcing my "Boba Fett: Gun for Hire"

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    TV movie right here on AICN. It's a space spaghetti western set in the Star Wars Universe before "Empire". Production commences this October (assuming we get the Lucasfilm meeting, of course).

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Wasn't AVATAR a PG-13 cartoon?

    by palimpsest

    That seemed to do well enough.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Today is James Cameron's birthday

    by Jehovahs_Witness

    He's only 56 years old. That tiger still has some bite in him.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 10:55 a.m. CST

    11th

    by SuperLoserFish

    ish

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST

    T4 Director's cut is a good movie...

    by darthwaz1

    I really don't understand all the hate.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 10:57 a.m. CST

    hooray!

    by awardgiver

    time to let the Terminator concept just die already.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:01 a.m. CST

    When I think of Terminator I always remember

    by chibnut

    that Guns N Roses video for T2. Pure 90's.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Did no one learn the lesson of Titan AE?

    by SuperLoserFish

    There is no audience for this kind of fare. This $$$ would be better spent on hookers and booze.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:02 a.m. CST

    In that case i'm working on Robocop: Resurrection...

    by Righteous Brother

    Sequel/Reboot of the Robocop franchise, its been 25 years since Robocop last patrolled the streets of Delta City....etc etc...production is starting in Sept(assuming we can get the meeting with whoever holds the rights these days)

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:03 a.m. CST

    HarryWhereIsYourInceptionReview, the person, not the question

    by AKA_Gern_Blanston

    Harry DID finally post his review, for what it was worth. Your lame posts can stop now.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Well, at least...

    by Sodomy_Joe_Shitpants

    ...the "Claymation Terminator" and the "Shoebox Puppet Theatre Terminator" rights are still up for grabs. Perfect opportunity to do a California Raisins reboot/crossover franchise launch. I mean, as long as we're going to fuck this series, we might as well pull its hair too.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Who Would Finance this Shit?

    by Woodrow_Wilson_Smith

    I mean are there a bunch of clueless monkeys who would actually put up 70M to see this produced? <p> Why? <p> I can't get a TSCC movie to close out the series but this utter shit can be financed? WTF!!

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Speaking of projects that tank at the box office

    by SmokingRobot

    Can we please for the love of Christ stop casting Michael Cera in movies?

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST

    That's a brilliant idea, actually.

    by ROBRAM89

    Announcing a project you don't have the rights to so the owners have to negotiate with you about it? That's balls.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST

    I don't have that big a budget...

    by Blue_Demon

    but that won't stop me from doing the Lunch Bag Puppet Terminator! You think thos Fandango Puppets were cool? Sheeeeeiiiiit. Just you wait...

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST

    "thos" = "those" (Goddammit...)

    by Blue_Demon

    >:(

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:30 a.m. CST

    darthwaz1

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Time to study up on the basics of filmmaking then.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones Begins

    by John_McClanes_Vest

    My idea. Spielberg, Lucas and Paramount won't mind.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Scott Pilgrim is box office aids

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    I get a warm feeling inside seeing how badly that movie did. fuck Vampires suck will probabaly make more money haha..awesome

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:42 a.m. CST

    But why?

    by Pigdog

    I know that the movies I have watched and loved over the years wouldn't have happened without financial backing and in some cases long term profit from merchandising. But in many cases this can be subtle and not in your face. This however is just blatant profit seeking and the mind boggles at what conversations may go on about toy lines, burger king promotions, games etc. I know I may be hasty about casting judgment on these guys before anything has even been agreed but i don't think they give two shits about the Terminator being any good. I can just imagine them being inspired by Michael Bay.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:45 a.m. CST

    re: RedBull_Werewolf

    by Holeman

    I know that you have little else to do aside from the internet and occasionally molesting your quadriplegic mother who only wishes she still had the ability to speak if only to ask someone to kill her and end her misery, but I would like to point out that we all know how badly that movie did over the weekend and you can now shut the fuck up about it, because no one cares. Now, if you hurry you might catch your mom in the middle of another kidney pain spasm and as you well know, that's like sticking your tiny cock in a giant vibrator made out of fat! Get on that, pissbag!

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:49 a.m. CST

    This whole franchise needs to e terminated

    by kafka07

    I don't see or feel the need for more terminator films.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 11:57 a.m. CST

    there should have been a cease and desist

    by Stalkeye

    starting with the Third movie; rise of the machines."she'll be back.." go fuck yourself. Sarah's Chronicles had potentual however.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Michael Cera = box office poison

    by Snappy Cumback

    You know it to be true.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 12:09 p.m. CST

    @Holeman

    by Woodrow_Wilson_Smith

    Wow that was just evil. Molest your quadriplegic mother?<p> Fuck I laughed at that.<p> I haven't seen it but I'm rooting for Scott Pilgrim - anything original, please.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 12:16 p.m. CST

    As I said in the last Talkback

    by A G

    This commpany is a listed pinksheets company. This was an attempt to pump up their share price. That is all.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 12:18 p.m. CST

    If Robocop goes this route..

    by Axl Z

    I wouldn't buy that for a dollar!

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST

    here is what cameron should do..

    by emeraldboy

    use his clout as the founder of lightstorm to buy the rights of terminator. personally. but he has nothing to do with this franchise.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 12:35 p.m. CST

    I SO CARE ABOUT THIS

    by BringingSexyBack

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Then they should have said HARD R

    by twogunjames

    because "the fans" are sick and fucking tired of watered down PG-13 nonsense. Let Terminator rest. Lets think up some new ideas already!

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST

    YOU'RE TERMINATED HANNOVER

    by BringingSexyBack

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST

    but like tarantino and the berg..

    by emeraldboy

    if he was to buy terminator rights it would go on to a list of films that he would never get made. he came up with the story, co-wrote the screenplays for the first two films, directed the first two films. but the ownership thing is messy.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 12:44 p.m. CST

    as the rights to terminator are now owned...

    by emeraldboy

    buy other people. cameron will never make another terminator film ever again. not unless the film is made in 3d. his fans are just wishful thinkers that cameron will come back. I really dont see him working on 2d film ever again. those days are over for him......

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 12:51 p.m. CST

    best headline of the day...

    by emeraldboy

    Disney's Epic Mickey!!!! kind of gross. reminds of that wonderful chapter in Joseph O' Connor's secret life of the irish male.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Announcement: ALIENS vs PREDATOR vs COLONIAL MARINES

    by lv_426

    Starring Anton Yelchin as Hicks' younger Colonial Marine brother who is put in charge of working with a mercenary group lead by Chuck Norris.<P>Had to get Chuck on board because, well, he's Chuck Norris and he can add some intimidation factor when I get my "meeting" with Fox.<P>Expect pulse rifles, smart guns, battle mechs, and Chuck taking on multiple aliens and predators all at once.<P>Still trying to figure out how to fit the Delta Force theme music in there as well. Maybe as an electronica version at the Arcturian strip joint where Hicks' meets with Chuck's mercs?

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Thank Goodness

    by RPLocke

    Terrible title. Awful idea.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST

    If they are gonna throw away 70 million...

    by tomimt

    they could as well give it to me. The profit from that would be about the same.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Why is there a "3000" in their Terminator 3000 title?

    by ShabbyBlue

    Does that imply that they want to set this film all the way in the year 3000? Like almost 1000 years after Judgement Day? Lame.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 2:10 p.m. CST

    ShabbyBlue

    by IKilledSuperman

    That´s because I hold the rights to Terminator 4000! ;-)

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST

    If they were hoping for fan support

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    They should have given the fans at least one reason to support it...

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 2:21 p.m. CST

    JettL Terminator 3000 being financed?

    by thommcg

    Whoa, he finally he paydirt with a faux announcement :)

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 2:22 p.m. CST

    hit paydirt, I mean

    by thommcg

    oops

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 2:26 p.m. CST

    I thought these movie execs were smart?

    by Goregazer

    Do they visit sites like this? A decent writer/story and hard R sci-fi gore would be a pretty potent antidote. Every film in the franchise, including the tv show, has it's fans. But everyone always goes back to the original as their favorite. For me, what gave the movie it's punch: the relatability of it taking place in current time, the grime of the city, that ONE RED EYE and all the "life" Cameron put into it...I don't know...the first season of the tv show had some extremely good ideas imo. Little John in high school, trying to deal with a terminator protector as a fellow student--trying to make her seem more human, shit like that..I liked that.. hmm.. I know, I haven't really made any decent suggestions. But I DO know T4 was too tame. After watching the first season of the show I had the feeling I saw something much more badass and hardcore. Besides that I just couldn't separate Bale's voice from that fucking growl-mumble he had as Batman.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    films have to be tame otherwise..

    by emeraldboy

    they dont get a release. the former president bush and his parental lobbyist groups killed off bad language, sex violence and nudity in movies.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 3:11 p.m. CST

    I WISH TO ANNOUNCE I SHALL BE MAKING BATMAN 3

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    It shall be called BATMAN VS THE WORLD and star Yahoots Magoondi (or Brian Thompson as he's also known) as Batman, with Peter Weller reprising his role as Robocop. It will cost $100000000,000000000 and will be made by my own production company.<p>Cease and desist me you motherfuckers!

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Possible reason for "3000" in the title

    by NoHubris

    3000 Terminators make a last stand at the Hot Gates to save civilization from tyranny.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    I'll be back... pending further litigation.

    by WickedJester

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Expect he'll say Arnold is attached to star.

    by kabong

    Grifters trying to suck in investors.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST

    We all knew this several days ago

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    Nothing new here, move along. And I doubt this will happen.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Hey Eric! Read this!

    by catlettuce4

    Eric Parkinson... you actually CAN do this movie without the rights. Make a movie inspired by Terminator, and show them how they SHOULD be handling their property. In the process, you will be creating a valuable and cool property of your own. George Lucas did the same type of thing when he couldn't get the rights to Flash Gordon and made Star Wars. Besides, many fans are sick of Terminator and consider it damaged goods.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 3:56 p.m. CST

    ShabbyBlue

    by catlettuce4

    More likely it has something to do with a robot model number, like the T-1000, etc.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 3:59 p.m. CST

    They ignited geek annoyance instead.

    by V'Shael

    Tough shit.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 4:24 p.m. CST

    NoHubris

    by thommcg

    Haha, crossover potential galore.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Why don't they just do a fan film?

    by RPLocke

    People flock to that crap more than the real shit these days.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Problem with their plan to try and force a negotiation

    by Can_You_Fly_Bobby

    with Pacificor is that no one gives a crap about new Terminator properties anymore. You're certainly not going to get a huge groundswell of support for a PG-13 animated version of this crap. No more Terminator. Finance original ideas please!

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 5:51 p.m. CST

    I think cameron was very wise..

    by emeraldboy

    to walk away from the terminator franchise when he did. he wrote, directed and produced the first two. then moved on.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 5:52 p.m. CST

    james cameron's fans...

    by emeraldboy

    need to stop pining. its over.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 6:45 p.m. CST

    I agree with emeraldboy

    by Goregazer

    Especially since Cameron's true crowning achievement was THE ABYSS

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 7:06 p.m. CST

    How Do You Stop A TERMINATOR In Its Tracks??

    by zooch

    Let McG direct it?

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST

    I hereby claim the rights to a film based entirely

    by gotilk

    on Billy Zane's Floating Head. It will be a 100 million dollar project featuring motion capture and we are hoping to get Mr Zane on board before production begins in November.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST

    You know what a Terminator movie needs?

    by Yelsaeb

    Mr. Cameron and Mr. Schwarzenegger. Get those two back together and it'll be a wet dream.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST

    A plot?

    by RPLocke

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST

    I want To announce i will be making the biggest film of 2011

    by ChocolateJesusMan

    Debbie Does Dallas V..Debbie Does Japan..Debbie & her group of nubile young cheerleaders must defend their world cheer-leading title from a group of up & coming (pun intended) Japanese cheerleaders..Lindsay Lohan is attached to star in it

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  • Aug. 17, 2010, 11:01 a.m. CST

    empire did feature celebrating 20 years of

    by emeraldboy

    terminator. they spoke to cameron and apparently said that arnie said he wouldnt do a third terminator without jim and cameron called arnie and said half jokingly said to arnie quit being so damn loyal if you really want to do a third terminator then go ahead. I then read that arnie had signed to do a third terminator. and I thought I guess he needed the money. I havent seen the third one. but it sounds like a fun popcorn movie. Cameron is not invovlved in the terminator franchise anymore. those days are over. cameron has moved on. he is know along with zemeckis and the berg is involved in 3d technology. the box office and audiences dont like it.

  • Aug. 17, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST

    emeraldboy

    by lv_426

    I think you hit the nail on the head. Terminator 3 is good if you look at it as a fun popcorn flick. Same with Terminator Salvation. The first two are the ones that have more substance and resonance beyond the spectacle.

  • Aug. 17, 2010, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Can_You_Fly_Bobby

    by lv_426

    "No more Terminator. Finance original ideas please!"<P>If they could get the rights to Philip K. Dick's short story Second Variety, they'd have something to work with in similar territory. Actually, you could possibly argue that Second Variety was an inspiration for The Terminator, although Cameron has never mentioned it as such.<P>Problem is the Peter Weller film Screamers was based on Second Variety, but changed a lot of the basic elements. If the original story were revisited and respected a bit more, it could be adapted into a pretty damn good sci-fi/action flick that would make you think.<P>Of course, I'm all for original ideas, but these days that's a pipe dream in terms of mainstream sci-fi movies.

  • Aug. 17, 2010, 1:39 p.m. CST

    if bale handnt been such an asshole..

    by emeraldboy

    during the t4's production i might have enjoyed the film. but I cannot forgive a movie that gave the world that other asshole Sam Worthington.

  • Aug. 18, 2010, 12:56 a.m. CST

    American animated sci-fi = FLOP

    by Chief Joseph

  • Aug. 18, 2010, 1:38 a.m. CST

    It feels like rape

    by TheJudger

    at this point enough with the terminators, no and then! no and then! no and then! no and then. And then...... No. Someone rip the PA box off of this bitch so she'll stop raping this property. There is no more terminator. The day James left. the day some doucher let somneone else become john, and another dlucher recast everyone all over again. Fuck it. I'm done Stan is dead, the film is a mess, and I dont give a fuck anymore, I care that they wanna rape it for more dollars. A cold place in Hell on you all. Terminator sucks after 2.

  • Aug. 18, 2010, 1:48 a.m. CST

    also wow pilgrim got cornholed bigtime

    by TheJudger

    Damn 12 million so far and only 1 million overseas. Bye bye michael wimpy fuck cera, thank god, hopefull that facebook piece of shit crashes too. So Fincher. I like your films and shit, but Facebook and another wimpy fuck faced fuck that you just want to pucnh and shit kick the fuck in. I'm tired of these non man- man movies! We need macho fucks back on the screen.

  • Aug. 18, 2010, 7:49 a.m. CST

    I'm workng on Oceans 14000

    by Tikidonkeypunch