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The Star Wars Saga coming to Blu-Ray in 2011!

Published at: Aug. 14, 2010, 2:12 p.m. CST by quint

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here.

In an interview with the New York Times The Lucas himself announced all 6 Star Wars films are coming to Blu-Ray next year. Don't get all out of breath just yet. This release seems to mirror the DVD releases in that you're getting the 2004 clean-ups of the 1997 Special Editions with a hint that a future release may include the restored original releases. Initially my ire was raised as Lucas said that releasing the original trilogy un-cartoonified was "“kind of an oxymoron because the quality of the original is not very good.” But those cheeky monkeys at the NYT knew what they were doing. My weave was out and my knuckles were cracked. I was screaming out, "lemme at 'im! lemme at 'im" when I read a little further and saw that Lucas wasn't badmouthing the original releases (his usual M.O.), but that there would have to be a big restoration done to get a high def master. And he's also stopped calling the originals "workprints" instead referring to them as the "classic versions." His reasoning at not releasing them at the same time was the time and expense of doing full restorations of the original materials was prohibitive and as such the "recent releases get priority over what we call 'the classic' version of things." If he flat out said he was going to take the SE Star Wars Blu-Ray sales money and feed that right into the high def restorations of the original trilogy that would include a Blu-Ray release that has every option you could ever want (THX or original stereo sound, cleaned up matte lines or original see-through snowspeeders, etc) then put me down for two double-dip copies of the SE Blu. So, bummer, but there's at least a new hope at getting a real version of the Original Trilogy remastered (not the laserdisc transfers from the last round of DVDs). The upcoming Blu release will include never-before-seen footage and massive documentary features. The rest is unclear at this point. Update There was a big unveiling at Star Wars Celebration V of one of the new deleted scenes that will be a part of the Blu-Ray release's special features. Pretty awesome... new moment from the beginning of Return of the Jedi... Luke's original entrance. See it before it's pulled:

IGN.UK has a full report from the event here. There will be deleted scenes you've never seen like the above and they'll be kept out of the cuts, special features only. Thanks to wackybantha and Cobra--Kai in the talkbacks for the heads up! End of Update Since we're still talking about Star Wars, I'd like to point you over to a great article at The Hero Complex blog about original Star Wars and Empire producer Gary Kurtz. The article has Kurtz discussing his split with Lucas and the Return of the Jedi that almost was. You'll learn the original fate of Han Solo and the originally conceived bittersweet ending that sounds, frankly, pretty spectacular. And this is coming from an unrepentant lover of RotJ. -Quint quint@aintitcool.com Follow Me On Twitter



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  • Aug. 14, 2010, 1:48 p.m. CST

    hot diggedy, oh

    by mynamesdan

    well we could have guessed

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Bluray maybe too detailed for the first three Star Wars.

    by Orionsangels

    If they're doing a restoration. They may wanna go back and fix the transparent matte boxes that outline some of the ships in the first three films. They showed up in the 2004 DVDs and you can bet your ass they'll appear in this release, unless Lucas decides to fix it. Oh and he better include those rare deleted scenes, like Han Solo and the alien chick in the Mos Eisley Cantina. The Wampa attack at the Hoth base. The sandstorm scene in ROTJ. If not I won't even bother getting it. Give me some incentive to buy the collection again for the fifteenth time!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Or...

    by kdoc13

    I can be happy with the ones I have, and stop paying Lucas for the same thing over and over again, until he lets Speilberg direct the next three, and brings Kasdan back to write them.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 1:50 p.m. CST

    The Kurtz interview was with the LA Times.

    by Rev. Slappy

    Kurtz talks about how the original trilogy was supposed to end before it got Ewokified. The original ending would have been fantastic,

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 1:52 p.m. CST

    I´ll take the first three

    by Chanoc

    I would specially like to see TESB in Blu-Ray

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 1:53 p.m. CST

    cue pointless Lucas bashing in 3, 2, 1....

    by Gungan Slayer

    It's getting old.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 1:54 p.m. CST

    ROTJ does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    The below is more detailed from http://uk.bluray.ign.com/articles/111/1112481p1.html :<p> Speaking about what will be included, Lucas said, "They'll be different kinds of additional material," adding, "I think you've seen enough behind the scenes [material] for a lifetime. There's some really good material that will be included in there, [including] more deleted scenes that you haven't seen yet." Lucas said these newly released scenes would be kept separate from the film itself. <p> In a surprise appearance, Mark Hamill then joined Lucas and Stewart on stage, to introduce one of the new deleted scenes, which he said was his "original entrance" in Return of the Jedi. Hamill noted the scene was short, but that it was for the UPFs in the audience – the "ultra passionate fans." <p> We were then shown the scene, which would have taken place after Darth Vader arrives on the second Death Star at the beginning of Return of the Jedi. We see Vader walking down a corridor and into an elevator on the Death Star. We then cut to Vader inside his medication chamber, a la Empire Strikes Back. As Vader sits there, the camera moves into a close-up and we hear him reaching out with the Force. "Luke. Luke. Join me in the dark side of the Force. My son. It is the only way." <p> As Vader continues to repeat Luke's name, we cut to a tight close-up of Luke, insinuating he is hearing his father's voice. it's a very ominous shot of Luke, who is wearing his cloak and hood, with the shadows from the hood blocking out his eyes completely - in line with how Darth Sideous' face is mostly hidden. As Vader's voice fades away, the camera pans down to Luke's hands, and we see that he is using a tool to complete work on his new lightsaber. Satisfied, he puts the tool down and holds the lightsaber hilt up, igniting it – in what would have been the first reveal of the green blade.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 1:55 p.m. CST

    LUCAS MADE THE RIGHT DECISIONS ON ROTJ

    by J-Dizzle

    Seriously? Killing off Han Solo midway through the movie AFTER rescuing him from Jabba? Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    More copy and pasting...<p> Lucasfilm's official press release for the Blu-rays. It confirms that all six movies are being released on Blu-ray and that the set is coming out Fall 2011 - so don't line up just yet! We're also told it will include, "documentaries, vintage behind-the-scenes moments, interviews, retrospectives and never-before-seen footage from the Lucasfilm archives."

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Killing Han Solo- not a good idea

    by D.Vader

    Thank goodness they didn't go that route.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 1:59 p.m. CST

    only a mug would buy the first edition of this

    by mynamesdan

    and they'd buy two copies. one for the attic and one for ebay

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2 p.m. CST

    Thank Heaven I Still Have...

    by puto tenax

    ...my laserdiscs. I'll just wait another, what, five years before he releases them. I could actually care less about the "SE" versions and those prozac prequel attempts. I hope he'll have time to do the right thing and make Episodes 7, 8 and 9.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:01 p.m. CST

    I couldn't care less.

    by V'Shael

    The days I give any cash to Lucas are years behind me.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Orionsangels - matte boxes

    by ObiBen

    Matte boxes are mostly due to the difference level and range differences between film and TV signal. Film has way more dynamic range than TV, so this why these matte boxes are less visible when projected in theatres. Apparently, Bluray has a 16 bits color depth, so this should actually attenuate them.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:03 p.m. CST

    ROTJ deleted scene unveiled at SWC:V

    by wackybantha

    This was pretty cool and new to me. Luke constructing his lightsaber. WATCH IT NOW IF YOU DARE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdJ0E7HbTKc&feature=player_embedded

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:04 p.m. CST

    There is a deleted scene up

    by RPLocke

    Luke Skywalker builds his lightsaber before he heads Threepio and Artoo out to Jabba's palace. Pretty awesome.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Wow

    by kwisatzhaderach

    This is the coolest shit i've seen in ages!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:08 p.m. CST

    SW & Empire YES, Jedi.. NO!

    by CeejayNightwing

    The only way I'm ever buying ROTJ again is if included in a box set, the film has been and always will be the point SW went straight down hill. As for the Blu Ray of the originals being the special edition only versions, well I can wait till they finish restoring the originals. Those special editions were far from special. They need to take a look at Adywans "Star Wars Revisited" version of ANH as well as his current work on "The Empire Strikes Back Revisited" in order to get a idea how to do a proper "Special Edition"! The only way I'd spend a penny on those releases is if Lucasfilm/Fox allow a part trade-in for the previous bought DVD's or VHS's. I'm sure we all have enough SW home video versions lying around gathering dust that we don't need! The prequel Trilogy I will buy simply because even though they're terrible movies, they will look good on Blu Ray for the sake of a entertaining spectacle!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:12 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    They definitely should have left that deleted scene in the movie.<p> At it's core ROTJ is about Luke and Vader and that set's up the theme of the movie from the start, rather than the 40 odd minutes of Jabba stuff (which is kinda irrelevant to the central drama).

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Sounds like we need a fan film based on this ending...

    by br1947

    call it "Revenge of the Jedi" just to piss off Lucas :-)

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Great plan - release both versions.

    by kevred

    Release all the latest and greatest for all the people who've become aware of them and enjoyed them since the prequels. Then release the untouched originals for all the people who fell in love with them and helped Lucas build his empire.<p>Everybody wins. The anti-Lucas shouts quiet down. Easy!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:17 p.m. CST

    JDizzle

    by Sicuv Uyall

    Ewoks?? Stupid!Stupid!Stupid!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Excuse me while I

    by Denty420

    wade through the semen that the clip has produced.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Love the deleted scene! Would like to see it in the film.

    by kevred

    Something about the shadowy Luke, almost echoing the Emperor's appearance, then out pops his GREEN saber...love it.<p>Over the years, the whole Jabba part of the film hold less allure for me - too long, almost like the whole pod-racing nonsense. It's the part after their escape that I like the most, and this little scene nicely connects the Jabba bit to that vibe.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:24 p.m. CST

    That should definitely go back in.

    by kwisatzhaderach

    As Cobra says it nicely sets up the theme of the movie. And it works even more knowing the story of the prequels.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Finally

    by rogueleader66

    Now I have an actual reason to buy a Blu Ray player....although first step is getting a HD Tv, don't got that yet either.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:24 p.m. CST

    The ONLY WAY Lucas will get any more money from me is....

    by King Conan

    He does the Heir to the Empire trilogy, ANIMATED ala Beowulf, using the ORIGINAL actors voices who would ALL probably do it because they are all desperate for work and to get back on top of the media spotlight ESPECIALLY Harrison Ford which is why he went back to Indiana in the first place. Do this Lucas, and me my wife and my two kids will be there with popcorn in hand giving you our money.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Great Scene - Would love to see more

    by Alice Cooper Stalker

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Another restoration???

    by Lucidmind

    Surely they must have restored the original material when they did the special editions?

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:27 p.m. CST

    About time

    by DiscreetFighterAlpha

    Include Blackstar Warrior in there as an add on, and be forever cool in my book

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Thoughts

    by Darth Melkor

    That cut scene is simply incredible. Though, I'm not sure if it would have fit well into the film. Still awesome though. And while I like Kurtz's version of Luke walking off into the sunset, killing Han Solo halfway through the movie would've been awful and made the entire rescue mission at Jabba's pointless. Imagine if they went through all that to save Han and he died 30 minutes later in the movie. Lame.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Who gives a shit?

    by SmokingRobot

    Between Greedo shoots first and the unrelenting shit that was the prequels...who cares? I WILL NEVER SPEND ONE FUCKING PENNY ON AN STAR WARS CRAP AGAIN AS LONG AS I LIVE SO HELP ME GOD. As you can see, I'm pretty solid in the 'George fucked up big-time' school of thought.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Empire Strikes Back S.E. was the only decent one

    by MattmanReturns

    The background CG enhanced Cloud City, rather than distracting from it with a bunch of stupid cartoon creatures. Shame the other two films have dinosaurs and a dance number. I also love the tatooine/coruscant/naboo celebration scenes in Jedi... but now that's followed by young Anakin smiling like he just got laid. The S.E.'s are such a mixed bag.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:33 p.m. CST

    "Who gives a shit?"

    by MattmanReturns

    You gave enough of a shit to post a hateful diatribe. If you didn't give a shit, you wouldn't have just given a shit.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Gotta love the Lucas bashers

    by RPLocke

    Yet you know they have a collection Star Wars figures sitting in their closets. Dumbasses.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    ha ha, Lucas is the ultimate milker

    by Nerd Rage

    Nobody milks the fanboys like Lucas.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    That deleted scene...

    by Darth_Tarantino

    Lucas put all the new bullshit into the original films when he had a great little scene like that lying around? Seriously? I despair of the man, I truly do. If he wanted to improve the originals then small FX touch-ups and the re-introduction of nice little moments like that would've been perfect. Instead, Jar Jar Binks is in ROTJ. Fuck's sake...

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    we need the original untouched films on BR

    by Gorgomel

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Some weird comments in here

    by D.Vader

    The SEs of A New Hope and Jedi are unwatchable? Someone will never buy Jedi again bc it's so bad? Lunacy. Absolute lunacy. <p> Some changes may not have been for the better, but to say it ruins a movie, all the fantastically great stuff that has inspired generations of people, well that's just poppycock.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:43 p.m. CST

    when Lucas

    by lead_sharp

    starts calling himself a 'money grabbing old corpse rapist' instead of 'film maker' I'll be happy with Star Wars again. fuck this in the ass.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:44 p.m. CST

    I feel sorry for those people that stick to the DVD

    by RPLocke

    of the unchanged OT. You guys are missing out on fun stuff. Move on people.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:45 p.m. CST

    this is perfect for me

    by Bouncy X

    i'm not a huge "star wars changed my life" fan, i just enjoy the movies. while some moments are stupid (the jedi musical number), the special editions are still 99% the same movies so i dont need the "original originals". sounds like this release will include enough to satisfy me. all 6 movies and some cool extras. and since i only own the original VHS trilogy box, the 2004 dvd box and i've never bought any of the prequels, its not like i'm buying these for the millioneth time. but they say the OT will be the 2004 editions, so what about the PT? will they be redone at all, i'm thinking specifically about the replacement of the Episode 1 puppet Yoda. either way this version is good enough for me. lucas didnt rape my childhood so i'm not all angry about simple movies. plus at least he's warned that another version will come. so those of you who bitch for no reason can avoid buying the 2011 release and wait.....of course eveyone knows they wont. :P

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Bouncy X

    by kwisatzhaderach

    The terrible Phantom Menace Yoda has been replaced, there was a clip it on one of the Making Of's on the DVD's, Episode III maybe?

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Whoa, that deleted scene...

    by D.Vader

    Was pretty damn cool. Like finding a treasure chest of buried favorites. Just when you thought there was nothing new left to see from the old stuff. It kinda makes you giddy and wish there were LOADs of this stuff lying around.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    "Jaws" isn't on Blu-ray? I Just. Don't. Fucking. Understand.

    by jawsfan

    original SW trilogy on Blu-ray? Wake me when it is the original cuts and not the SE's. In the meantime, "Jaws" isn't on Blu-ray and "The Shark Is Still Working" has been released at all. THAT fucking sucks. Lucas and Spielberg can kiss my ass.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:53 p.m. CST

    This is why I will never buy movies again

    by GimpInMyPants

    The constant format changes, re-releases, double dipping, triple dipping--fuck it! I sold my DVD box set of the Star Wars Original Trilogy years ago to a sucker for $40. I'm never spending another dime on DVDs, Blu Ray--everything!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    typo - that should have read "hasn't been released.."

    by jawsfan

    Wish there was a chance to preview posts before submitting. Well, there IS really, but you know what I mean.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    LV_426

    by Darth_Tarantino

    You know what? I Lucas edited down the Jabba sequence in ROTJ and put this deleted scene back in (plus the deleted scene of them reaching the Falcon) then my opinion of him would probably go back up a little. I would rather have those two scenes re-instated and that horrific CGi music number REMOVED.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:55 p.m. CST

    The SE's are the ones i watch most

    by RPLocke

    They fit in with the PT movies. You sad assholes can watch that fucking Adywan shit.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    LV_426 i don't think the general population cares about other c

    by King Conan

    I just mean I think the general public doesn't hold a soft spot for the rest of the star wars universe, old republic, republic commandos, clone wars etc so they will always see it as a cash grab. I do think Lucas should hand the reigns over to another director and let him continue the adventures of luke, leia, han, chewie etc. Those are the only characters we really care about. I think most people continue to support the star wars franchise strictly out of blind love and devotion to those first three great movies. I mean besides knowing what happened to the orignal characters after ROTJ all we ever wanted to know was how Boba Fett became a legendary bounty hunter and Lucas had a chance to explain that with the prequels and he even fucked that up. I would dare to say people watched the prequels more in hopes of finding out more about Boba's background than Vaders.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    fuck Lucas!!!!

    by disfigurehead

    Nuff said.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 2:59 p.m. CST

    jawsfan

    by Quint

    I feel your pain regarding the Jaws Blu-Ray... or lack thereof. Don't go blaming Spielberg for The Shark Is Still Working, though. He saw the finished documentary and gave it his stamp of approval. It's Universal that's holding that one up. Of course, I'm sure if Spielberg really strong-armed the studio we'd have seen it by now, but you can't expect him to do that for a fan documentary. At least I don't.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3 p.m. CST

    the money issue

    by Bouncy X

    one thing that don't make sense is him saying he'll use the money made by this release to help the restoration of the next? the guy is a billionaire, he paid for the prequels out of his own pocket. you're telling me he can't afford to pay for restoring them himself? wow...lol

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Bouncy

    by Quint

    He didn't say he'd use the money from this release. That was me being a smart-ass. But to give Lucas some credit, he did just give away the majority of his fortune to charity: http://tinyurl.com/2g32q63

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:03 p.m. CST

    It's amazing that Star Wars IV is on as we speak..

    by King Conan

    Lol just started on the Spike channel here in the US on the East Coast. Amazing 33 years later and still going strong. The prequels will be forgotten in 33 years or less.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Boba Fett

    by Bouncy X

    so how the hell did he become such a huge fan favorite? he has maybe 5mins of screentime in the originals, probably less. he has line 2 or 3 lines of dialogue so how the hell did he become this awesome fan favorite character?

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Quint's good at being a smartass :P

    by Bouncy X

    ohhhhh.....well i am blonde and canadian so forgive me stupidity. but its funny because i obviously reacted that way because that wouldnt really be a surprise if he had said it. lol

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Bouncy X

    by King Conan

    Who knows...but if you were a true SW you'll know that HE IS a HUGE fan favorite.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:05 p.m. CST

    How much do restorations go for these days?

    by Nerd Rage

    I mean if Lucas can't afford them how the fuck do studios restore movies all the time?

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:05 p.m. CST

    fuck Lucas!!!!

    by disfigurehead

    Nuff said.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:05 p.m. CST

    true fan

    by King Conan

    i meant

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:07 p.m. CST

    LV_426, yeah that Alien Anthology pisses me off

    by MattmanReturns

    I'm not gonna pay for Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection. As for Star Wars... well I'd probably buy all six anyway (I do wanna see Darth Maul in 1080p... and I like Episode III)... but yeah people should have the option to not buy the prequels.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:11 p.m. CST

    I've been waiting 15 years for that scene

    by ndally

    And a few others. Fucking awesome. The pacing would be a bit off it was in the film but damn how i wish they'd give it a shot. ROTS has fucking hours deleted from it. No joke. The first cut ran over like 4 hours.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:11 p.m. CST

    I'd watch ROTS before I'd watch Alien 3 again

    by RPLocke

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:11 p.m. CST

    wow

    by bluebottle

    that scene... more please.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:14 p.m. CST

    cut scene

    by nobbythehappyelf

    fucking awesome. That's it.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Bouncy X

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Can you think of a cooler movie character than Boba Fett?

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:16 p.m. CST

    I can't believe people are willing to buy the non-theatrical ver

    by Nerd Rage

    Yet again. You guys make it too easy for Lucas. He could release the same exact version three times in a row and suckers would still buy it.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Episode III > VI

    by Simpsonian

    I'm probably in the minority here on this. Half a Death Star, Max Rebo band, Boba's anti-climactic, death, Ewoks, mailed in performances. It has it's moments but III has a few more for me, despite all of it's problems...

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    And some blu-rays don't even have special features

    by D.Vader

    So what's the fucking point then?!?

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Sounds Good to Me!

    by Dranem

    Growing up with the originals and still loving the Prequels seems to be the exception, but definitely the group I fall into. Looking forward to this big time, especially with all the new footage they are finding. I have the originals on VHS and on the DVD Laserdisc transfer and am happy with those. My only gripe about the SE is the Jabba and Han scene and the awkward shooting scene with Greedo, everything else is cool.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Is Lucas actually ashamed of the original untouched trilogy?

    by alan_poon

    Does he look down on the fans of them too?

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    LV_426, agreed on Jabba.

    by kevred

    If the silly puppets, silly musical scene, silly pig-guards, and silly Fett death were all removed, I'd like it more. I imagine something more in line with the original Cantina scene and its sense of menace.<p>But you're absolutely right about the Bond comparison, the mini-adventure that gives us resolution to a long-running side plot.<p>There were a lot of terrific things in that part of the film. I think I just get annoyed by the less-than-terrific parts - I wasn't used to a Star Wars film having any less-than-terrific parts!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    what's with the people going apeshit while watching?

    by Ozman X

    Not that exciting.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:23 p.m. CST

    When they come out...

    by BlackBriar

    they better be worth the price, Hopefully!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:23 p.m. CST

    When they come out...

    by BlackBriar

    they better be worth the price, Hopefully!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Ozman X

    by RPLocke

    What the article doesn't mention is that the clip was shown at Star Wars C V with Lucas on stage with Jon Stewart. Mark Hamill came out to introduce the clip, and Carrie Fisher joined later.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:28 p.m. CST

    People don't like the Jabba sequence?

    by D.Vader

    What's wrong with the world today? The Jabba sequence is just aces!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Well, I'll lay it on the line here...

    by rabidfnark

    I loved the OT (oh sure, there are some problems but that's for another day), I enjoyed the Prequels in an "Oh cool, lightsabers!" kind of way, I liked some of the books (didn't read too many, but enough to know that there's some talent in there). I am also enjoying the Clone Wars animated series a lot more than I thought I would. I hold out hope for the live action TV series, and am trying not to dread the sitcom that was talked about. And now that all that's out of the way...That missing lightsaber scene is THE coolest SW related thing I've seen in a loooong time!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Black-R2 does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Yes, watch that ROTJ deleted scene again...<p> http://tinyurl.com/26w8v74 <p> There's a BLACK R2 unit on the Star Destroyer with Vader. Shorty done turned to the dark side.<p> The campaign to put that scene back in the movie begins here...

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST

    What's wrong with the special editions?

    by PinkFloyd7

    I just watched all of them recently, and the only thing I personally object to is Greedo firing first. That scene just looks awkward and stupid.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Nerd Rage, if every talkbacker agreed not to buy these blu-rays

    by MattmanReturns

    It would barely show up as a dent on the sales of this thing. It's cute that you think we could actually make a difference.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Luuuuuuke....LOL.

    by blackmantis

    That scene is awesome but JEJ's last drawn out Luuuuke made me laugh, because it sounded so much like a stereotypical Vader impersonation.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Lucas can keep it

    by PorkChopXpress

    I haven't cared about Star Wars since Jar Jar Binks hit the screen.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    *cough*...where the hell are the PIRANHA 3D reviews?

    by Mike_D

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:36 p.m. CST

    JAWS on Blu-ray

    by blackmantis

    When I had Universal HD more than a year ago they frequently showed a pristine looking HD version of Jaws. I had it on my TIVO until I had to move. The master already exists so I don't know why they haven't burnt it to disc already

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Killing off Han Solo midway through ROTJ...

    by Nic_Cages_Real_Hair

    is the worst idea since Greedo shot first

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    How about restoring Lucas' brain

    by thommcg

    You know...

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    That really looked like the Emperor

    by RPLocke

    It was eerie how much Luke looked like the Emperor there.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Han dying bad...Luke walking off...good!..but Boba dying still b

    by Stormwatcher

    Being old enough to know why Boba was such a fav (I collected and sent away for mine) I remember being so cheated by his death but loving the opening...in fact I only grew to dislike parts of ROTJ when I was older (other than always being pissed about Boba) I do hate the prequels though.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST

    EPISODE 1 DIGITAL YODA PLEASE!

    by GeorgieBoy

    For the love of God, please get rid of that fugly puppet from Episode I!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST

    I told Hayden to his face that his acting ruined the prequels

    by Stormwatcher

    Honest to god, at a bar this past February, he just stared off into space maybe calling upon Midaclorians to choke my windpipe, a few people (drunk guys as well) shook my hands afterwards...so what we are assholes sometimes in life... now I just need to meet the kid from the 1st one and Lucas himself and I'll have closure. No matter what anyone might ever say about me being a dick, it felt....damn....freaking....awesome.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    What's wrong with SE?! Jabba palace dance number

    by Rage_Against_Martin_Sheen

    the horror, the horror

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    GeorgieBoy

    by kwisatzhaderach

    It's gone.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    SCOTTPILGRIMFAN

    by kwisatzhaderach

    FLOP.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Stormwatcher

    by RPLocke

    Wow, great job at not being a fanboy.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:50 p.m. CST

    That deleted scene is

    by NeverTalksBack

    Fuckin awesome!!! Really cool :D I don't have a bluray player, oh well

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST

    aww who fucking cares

    by brock landers baby

    lucas can stick em and the next release and the ones after that up his fat fucking arse

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:52 p.m. CST

    LV_426, have you read the Star Wars: Legacy comics?

    by MattmanReturns

    Those are really great also.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Lucas ain't gonna include SHIT cause he HATES YOU*!!

    by Orionsangels

    He hates your FANDOM, he hates your nitpicky QUIBBLES about the matte boxes, he hates that you KNOW about the scenes that got cut out and most of all, he hates YOU! The worst thing in the world to George Lucas is a Star Wars fan because all you want from him is more more more and he doesn't give a FUCK about you or what you want. You'll be lucky to get the Empire of Dreams propaganda film from the 2004 set, with its lies, untruths and flim-flam. That's all the behind the scenes you need and how dare you - I say again, how goddamn DARE you ask for more than he has already provided, you insignificant PEASANT!! You'll GIVE him your money, oh yes you will! You'll give it to him so he can continue to NOT make the tv series, NOT make other movies and generally NOT reward you for your years of faithful service to the glorious Empire. * and in all instances, by "you" I mean "us" and by "us" I mean "me"

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Why did they cut that scene?

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    I don't get it. Just like I don't understand about the amount of time and expense of doing full restorations of the original materials. That's such a load of bullshit. Lucas has more money than God and can't spare a few hundred thousand to get those cleaned up? There would be film students eager to get the opportunity to do it for FREE.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Special Editions

    by Mr Lucas

    were a failed experiment and should be retconnned out of existence quite frankly(Mr Shankly). Just restore the originals and give us all the deleted scenes. All that bollocks about the time and money needed for restoration just doesn't wash with me.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:57 p.m. CST

    The whole fucking point of the SEs was to salvage those prints

    by JT Kirk

    This is what it means to not let bitterness and resentment haunt you forever. Lucas has become the very Dark-Sider that his Luke Skywalker character was warned about turning into by master Yoda. Originally, the Special Edition project was meant to restore the badly-aging master print of the original Star Wars (ANH specifically) because the assclowns at 20th Century Fox had stuck it in a vault that was rotting it. Lucas went to restore the print, and realized he could finally go back and fix some of the stuff he had resented in his heart for those (at the time) 15 years from the frustrating shoot on ANH. So he starts fucking around with Greedo and Jabba and special effects like the landspeeder floating, and adding shit from ILM's work on Jurassic Park just because he has access to the files. Then he says "well, this is fun and working out well, folks will want to see the other 2 movies when we release this, so we'll release them too" and the master prints to ESB and ROTJ are fine because Lucas owns them and has them stored better, but then he says "wouldn't it be fun if we just kept tweaking shit arbitrarily on the sequels as well? The fans will love that!" so he goes out ON A FUCKING WHIM and starts hacking up ESB and ROTJ despite neither film being directed by him, or even really written by him. Adding a painful musical sequence to ROTJ and a ridiculous beak to the Sarlacc, changing dialogue arbitrarily, tossing in a scene to "better explain" how Vader gets from Cloud City to his Super Star Destroyer. And now the original trilogy is truly lost because those ORIGINAL masters are not available, they've been perverted into Lucas' cheap whims.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Chuck_Chuckwalla

    by thommcg

    They don't have enough merchandisable material in them don't you know ;)

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Fett Love

    by OldDickLemon

    Didn't the Boba Fett love blow up because his original figure (I assume released with Empire) was extremely hard to come by?

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Goddamn even a deleted scene like that gets me high

    by MANNZILLA

    There isnt a thing on this world like the unedited original trilogy, even the sort of shitty ROTJ. You really want to get a star wars boner. Read the original script for ROTJ. Totally different than the film.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Are they going to

    by funkylovemonkey

    un-pinkafy Vader's light saber? Please?

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST

    More thrilling than all three prequels combined!

    by Calastir

    That short scene was more thrilling than all three prequels combined. Luke constructing his lightsaber. Just WOW!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:19 p.m. CST

    And why wasn't that scene in the movie??

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    HUH?!?!?

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:19 p.m. CST

    When they showed Luke in that clip did anyone...

    by Sailor Rip

    ...think it was the Emperor? I haven't read the tb's yet so maybe this has been pointed out but it's eerie how much he looks like him.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:20 p.m. CST

    I thought Hamill debunked this recently?

    by CARTMANEZ

    see here:<p> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XczClAxhCEM<p> or if that no work go UTUBE and type "Comic Con 2009 Interview Mark Hamill (Star Wars)"

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Original un-fucked with trilogy is the only star wars

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    I have any desire to watch again. I actually didn't mind the 97 versions that much so its not like I'm a puritanical fan. But those DVD versions really ruined the films for me particularly Hayden Christensen's stupid smirking face at the end of ROTJ<br><br> I cant imagine I will ever watch the prequels again let alone buy them, fair enough to those that enjoy them, but keep that shit out of the original classics.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:23 p.m. CST

    add me to the list..

    by soup74

    of people thinking killing Han off would have been a BAD idea. I was ready to read Kurtz's ideas and have another reason to crucify Lucas, but ewoks aside.. george was right, they needed to end the trilogy on a happy note.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:23 p.m. CST

    I'm lashing out right now..FUCK YOU GEORGE..

    by conspiracy

    Fuck You right in your wealth bloated goiter if you think you are getting another fucking penny out of me.</p><p>See that deleted scene? Quiet...not a lot of fuckery and flying bullshit...but fucking cool. THAT is what the Prequels could have should have been..THAT is what SW originally was before your wife castrated your fucking manhood, the people who made you great abandoned you due to your fucking narcissistic ways, and you started caring more about toy tie in than film making.</p><p>I say again..fuck you George.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:24 p.m. CST

    ROTJ could have been a near masterpiece

    by donchild

    if not for the ewok stuff and the extended Jabba sequence. The central story of Luke was brought to its conclusion just perfectly and the the three way play off in the third act with Luke/Vader/Palpatine, the rebellions attack on the Empire & the battle on Endor was brillant stuff apart from obviously the Endor segment. Its a pity though because what could have been a note perfect finisher to an already classic movie trilogy is sold short by a desire to sell a range of cute lookin teddy bears to pre schoolers.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Han dying would have been awful.

    by RPLocke

    Also a complete rip off of Star Trek II.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST

    "More thrilling than all three prequels combined!"

    by CARTMANEZ

    AMEN Brother!...you are SO fucking right on that one!<p> if only Lucas had thjought 'fuck it i cant be done with all the prequel shit i'll just make Episodes VII, VIII and IX with Hamill and the gang training new jedis (Ford cameo only as i doubt hed have commited to anything more)and oh yeah...i'll make em for adults not kids...then if i can be bugged i'll do I, II, and III sometime in my 70s'

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Why did he delete that scene?

    by KarlKolchak

    It was awesome. George Lucas is a fucking moron.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST

    SkidMarkedUndies...That scene wasn't there because..

    by conspiracy

    George had to keep the running time down and it was either this quiet, well done, piece of filmmaking or cute marketable Ewoks using Storm Trooper Helmets as a Xylophone.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:33 p.m. CST

    The first half of ROJ is so damn good

    by RPLocke

    then we get to Endor and the movie falls to crap. At least the Death Star II stuff was interesting.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:35 p.m. CST

    This deleted scene is great but it was...

    by Sailor Rip

    ...WISE TO NOT HAVE IT IN THE FILM. Luke's entry in Jedi is badass. <p> What, did he tell 3P0 and R2 to enter Jabba's palace and he'll hang out in that cave for a few days? <p> I love seeing scenes I never saw before from the OT but this is not needed and Luke's entrence in Jedi is perfect. No longer a novice but a hard core Jedi and it shows in his actions and attitude.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:36 p.m. CST

    SkidMarkedUndies

    by Sailor Rip

    read my last post. It's unnecessary.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:36 p.m. CST

    DELETED SCENE WAS WIZARD!!!!!!!

    by Annie The Pod Racer

    Too bad about 10 minutes later you'll have to listen to "Jedi Rocks". Lapti Nek was the real banger, you know it be TrUe!!!!!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:36 p.m. CST

    DELETED SCENE WAS WIZARD!!!!!!!

    by Annie The Pod Racer

    Too bad about 10 minutes later you'll have to listen to "Jedi Rocks". Lapti Nek was the real banger, you know it be TrUe!!!!!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:37 p.m. CST

    PREQUELS WOULDVE BEEN BETTER IF

    by CARTMANEZ

    Lucas had : - made Anakin an adult in Ep 1 and cast a better actor than 'Mannequin' Skywalker Hayden - e.g. Christian Bale <p> (or have had AOTC as Ep I and had Ep II as The Clone Wars and had Phantom Menace as backstory/flashbacks etc)<p> - no jar jar...3PO and R2 were enough comic relief <p> - had someone else write the scripts like he did with the OT <p> - again like the OT, get different directors for Eps 2 and 3 (e.g Spielberg for 2...Cameron or Scott or Jackson for 3)...Spielberg was supposed to direct Return of the Jedi but couldnt due to some problem with the directors guild...but he was itching to direct a prequel (i believe Lucas intended him to direct Ep II b4 he decided to direct them all)....and the others wouldve jumped at the chance to direct a SW as they've all said the original film pretty much got them into directing in the first place. It would’ve been a calling - like ‘star wars needs you’ <p>

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Quint, thanks for posting that link.

    by Toilet_Terror

    I can forgive Lucas now for the culminative damage to cinema wrought by his prequels. Shitty Hollywood movies have to take a hit for education? Okay.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    I agree with D. Vader the Jabba sequence is perfect

    by Nerd Rage

    I love every minute of it.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:43 p.m. CST

    The OT needs more KITSTER!!

    by RPLocke

    What happened to him? Did Tusken Raiders get him? Did he fall into a canyon?

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:46 p.m. CST

    James Earl Jones tries to use the ' my son ' spiel on Conan

    by alan_poon

    at the end of Conan the Barbarian. unfortuately for him it only works on the weak minded and thus his head was severed from his shouldrs

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:48 p.m. CST

    one 50 second scene POWN's 7 hours of prequels!!

    by CARTMANEZ

    just tellin it like it is dawgs<p> in Harry speak that one scene would be like 5 minutes fucking Pammy Anderson circa 1993 as opposed to a full nights passion with Rosie O'Donnell

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Killing Han would have been fucking stupid

    by BP_drills_america_a_new_asshole

    I wouldn't have minded if Lando bit it in a blaze of glory (that would have felt more apt) but Han? You would have had a generation of ten year olds traumatised for life. The rebellion in tatters and Luke walking off into the sunset like Clint Eastwood would have just fucking sucked. Lucas was right to change it.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:48 p.m. CST

    I also agree with whoever said the Jedi in the prequels

    by Nerd Rage

    should've been more like Luke in ROTJ. At least some of them. Instead they're all wearing fucking brown robes. Are they all trying to hide on Tatooine? Fucking Lucas. To paraphrase Homer Simpson: he's the cause and solution to all of Star Wars' problems.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Lucas is an arse

    by The_Motorcycle_Boy

    Maybe I'm dense, but why would they need to rescan the entire negatives again? Couldn't they just rescan the bits he's changed and reinsert them? What a bogus excuse. "It's too expensive." Yes, because it's not like it will pay for itself. I think I'll be picking up Empire, but sticking with my DVDs for the rest.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST

    The only other change they need to make to the OT is...

    by Sailor Rip

    ...Chewbacca needs to get a medal at the end of ANH.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Lucas is going to release the theatrical versions on dvd

    by Nerd Rage

    After he milks you suckers with the SE version another 5 more times. Haha!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST

    I'll say it again, Kurtz' ending isn't great

    by D.Vader

    Killing Han Solo- Bad idea. <p> Luke walking off into the sunset? Great imagery, but it doesn't really gel with his character. I wouldn't have liked that idea. <p> And really, how the hell would that have affected toy sales? Gary Kurtz is starting to sound a bit like a whiner nowadays. Just sayin'. Killing Solo isn't going to kill the rest of the toy sales.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Most of the people who worked with Lucas

    by RPLocke

    have turned into bitter old coots.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    LV_426 - Sgt Candy

    by CARTMANEZ

    The Candy scene $hits all over the mystery of the Arnold terminator...<p> I always figured that the T101 Arnold model looked the way it did due to it having to cover the massive endolskeleton..and it was kinda like Skynets idea of what a perfect humanoid would look like - the atlas thing..and that it was developed as a way to infiltrate humans after the crappy T600s with rubber skin..plus it had arnolds face as thats just what a T800 model 101s skull happens to look like when you put skin on its head <p> where as in that stupid T3 scene suddenly it was all based on Sgt Candy as early as 2003?! <p> thankfully it was only a deleted scene (its almost comical in tone - almost like a gag reel) and there was no indication in T4 the T800 is based on any captured soilder or anything - thus retaining the mystery of it<p> anyway the whole Darth Baby in TPM was the same kind of shitty thing as Sgt Candy - Lucas should NEVER have shown us Darth as a stupid little kid!!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:03 p.m. CST

    PHANTOM MENACE 1993

    by CARTMANEZ

    if SW prequels had started being released 10 years after Jedi in 1993 and wrapped up when TPM actually did come out in 99 (and had Anakin as an adult from the start, oh and had someone else to write the scripts....and Lucas only directing Ep 1, Spielberg directing Ep 2 for 96 and Cameron or R Scott for Ep 3 in 99)<P> Obi Wan - Kenneth Branagh <P> Anakin - Johnny Depp (Bale would’ve been too young then)<P> Padme - winona ryder<P> Mace Windu - Denzel Washington<P> Qui Gonn - Christopher Reeve (or Liam neenon )<P> Jar Jar - no one

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:07 p.m. CST

    actually Qui Gonn - Charlton Heston

    by CARTMANEZ

    Thatd have been better

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Kurtz pretty much mirrors my feelings about it.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:11 p.m. CST

    looks fishy

    by sbassen

    Why do I get the feeling that Hamil was correct, in saying he never filmed said scene? You never see his face, so it could be a stunt actor. The clips of Vader look recycled from ESB and ROTJ. The whole thing just feels off, like Lucas just threw it together and called up James and had him record a couple lines...

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:12 p.m. CST

    The prequels should have started with Ep III

    by Sailor Rip

    Grown Anikin, already knows Obi-Wan, they're attacking an enemy ship, take it from there...

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Prequels were destined to disappoint

    by donchild

    They are so deeply ingrained in the psyche of longtime fans that any attempts to make real the movies we've made in our own heads was always gonna leave the faithful feeling sorely letdown. That doesn't mean that they still couldn't have been really strong movies. Lucas's basic story arc for Anakin I felt was on target, the political manouvering of Palpatine, the forbidden love between Anakin & Padme, Sidious, Maul, Anakins turn to the dark side motivated out of fear of losing padme combined with his crumbling ability to distinguish between the good of the jedi and the evil of the sith's use of the force. All great story and plot material, the problems lie with the complete lack of feeling, the lifeless dialogue, pedestrian pacing, flat acting, the miscasting of Hayden Christensen in what should have been one of the best roles in movie history. Ep 3 while easily the best of the three (how could it not have been)is painfully let down by all of the above. If only Lucas had of hired somebody else to direct using his story outlines, but with better dialogue somebody else as Anakin we could have had something a lot stronger even if not as good as the movies we had in our own heads.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:14 p.m. CST

    disappointment of the prequels - responsible for all the wars in

    by CARTMANEZ

    im pretty certain of that...<p>

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:17 p.m. CST

    after i saw PM, i showered, then cried myself to sleep

    by CARTMANEZ

    i was crying in the shower as well though..<p> i did think about going to the police but what was the point they wouldnt do nuthin

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Lucas was supposed to direct Apocalypse Now

    by RPLocke

    But he was too busy planning Empire.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Kurtz is wrong

    by JacksBloatedPayroll

    Jedi ended just the way it was supposed to, minus the goofy musical number. And as far as killing Han Solo after you rescue him, that's basically like how they killed off Newt in Alien3. I'm with Quint, Jedi is a solid film, and it includes some of my personal favorite moments of the Trilogy.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:21 p.m. CST

    I don't care how cheap the orginal f/x shots are in the unedited

    by alan_poon

    I'll always love it the way it was. Tewaking these films is like some sort of time travel cheating. He did the best he could with what he had available at the time and should have left it at that. Would Orson Welles go back to Citizen Kane and retouch it if he were alive today or even James Whale with Frankenstein?

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:22 p.m. CST

    could any one movie be as Disappointing as PM ever again?

    by CARTMANEZ

    some might say thats already happened with Indy 4 but i think thats BS - i actually liked Indy 4<p> i guess it also happened with Matrix sequels<p> anyway could the 'Phantom' level of sheer disappointment ever happen again? like if Lucas made Episode VII and it was another let down ? (although we would be kind of prepared what with the disappointment of the Prequels)<p>

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:25 p.m. CST

    A happy ending was the right thing for Jedi.

    by rev_skarekroe

    A bittersweet ending is a terrible idea. It's Star Wars, not the freaking Godfather. That said, the SE closing song is way better than the original Yub Yub song.<p>Also, the theatrical introduction of Luke (and especially the green lightsaber reveal) is way better in the finished film. It's neat to see this moment, but good that they cut it.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Lucas gave me the OT.

    by Sailor Rip

    Something that can never be taken away. I find it hard to talk shit about him.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:27 p.m. CST

    LV_426 - AGREED there should be another trilogy

    by CARTMANEZ

    or maybe just another SW movie..then if its good and succesful make others..<p> Lucas in the background but others scripting and directing - maybe even have Hamill in there in the mentor role...(set it post Jedi - no more prequel BS)

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Good Things from the SEs

    by JacksBloatedPayroll

    The missing vasoline smear under the landspeeder. That's about it.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:28 p.m. CST

    YEAH! GROWN MEN SCREAMING OVER LAZER SWORDZ

    by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World

    Fucking embarassing

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    ROTJ "Original" Ending sounds too much

    by JacksBloatedPayroll

    like the Godfather 3 ending. Actually, it sounds exactly like that whole movie. I'll stick with the "final" cut.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:30 p.m. CST

    And is Celebration going to reveal anything...

    by rev_skarekroe

    ...about the live-action TV show? Didn't they announce that thing about 5 years ago now?

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Wookies would have been better,

    by JacksBloatedPayroll

    But I understand how the cost thing might have gotten in the way. Once you looked at Mcquarries original concept drawings for Kashyyk, would have been near impossible in 82.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:34 p.m. CST

    WHO THE FUCK CARES?

    by REPSMAN

    The Only BluRay I want is Aliens, Jaws and Pulp Fiction. Well, maybe Mr. Holland's Opus (so sue me) and Glenngarry Glen Ross — Always Be Closin'!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:37 p.m. CST

    CARTMANEZ

    by umbral_shadow_

    You asked if any one movie was as disappointing as Phantom Menace. Yes. Avatar.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:40 p.m. CST

    CARTMANEZ

    by RPLocke

    worships his shrine to The Matrix.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 5:48 p.m. CST

    How bout a remastered Phantom Menace instead?

    by dailysportspages

    Remove as much Jar Jar as possible, or since he is CGI anyway... completely redo his character to be less retarded. <br> Hell, maybe just hire a new actor to dub in a less retarded voice and dialog. <br> Instead of making him Jamaican you could give him a slight cockney accent or maybe a little cajun.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Wow!! I'm watching TESB on Spike HD right now

    by Carolinamaestro

    The picture quality of this film holds up better than any of the other films, no doubt. I always wondered why Empire looks better than Jedi. The effects on TESB was amazing, especially in HD! I wouldn't mind seeing that film on Blu-Ray at some point.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST

    More deleted scenes please!

    by TheMarineBiologist

    Especially Qui-gon's spirit in EpIII. It is always GRATING to watch that scene with Yoda communing with NO ONE when you have knowledge that Liam Neeson's side of the scene was filmed.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 6:05 p.m. CST

    There's only one thing I would add to the OT

    by ObiBen

    STORMTROOPETTES!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 6:40 p.m. CST

    ROTJ Deleted Lightsaber being built Scene>>>>Prequels

    by Thanos0145

    This scene is very simple, yet very powerful with Vader continuing to tempt Luke to the Dark Side.<p>Still, this scene deserved to be cut from ROTJ. Luke's entrance into Jabba's Palace force-choking the two Gammorean Guards is better.<p>Hearing the crowd go nuts when Luke turns on his lightsaber reminded me of being eight years old again in 1983 seeing ROTJ.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST

    STAR WARS SUCKS BALLS

    by PRESIDENT BALTAR

    THAT IS ALL

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Seamless Branching for Original-Special Edition

    by hornig

    hi, for me Seamless Branching is a must have, so I can switch between the original and the special edition via remote controll. Therefore both editions, or better 1 full edition and the differing scenes, must me on one disc. but blu-ray should be big enogh for this feature

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Adywan's Revisited is the only Star Wars...

    by RockHardTobascoSlimJim

    That I watch now. Before that it was the Classic Edition put out by OCPMovie. ADigitalMan's edits rock as well. His ROTS is aces. <p> Seriously, when it comes to Star Wars flicks at this point, I go with fan edits every time. (The GOOD ones, mind you.) Bring on Ady's Empire and Jedi. If you haven't seen Star Wars Revisited, you are simply missing the fuck out, kids.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 7:17 p.m. CST

    That scene is not authentic at all, Lucas has duped the fanboys

    by CeejayNightwing

    Not only has Mark Hamill stated he never shot that scene before. But the Vader shots we see of him walking and then entering the elevator are stock footage shots as opposed to the one of him sitting in his meditation chamber with the sharper meaner helmet design from Revenge of Sith as opposed to the old design fro teh OT with the larger eyes and rounder back that covered his neck. Clearly this meditation scene shot is make-shifted and unlike the other shots of the chamber in the other films that establish the background setting of the chamber, this not so cleverly diguised series of wipes from one stock footage shot to another simply opens with a close up chamber that has no background. Worse still is that the construction of Lukes lightsaber took place in Ben Kenobi's old home, not in a cave! The reason they never shot it was becasue it wasn't cost worthy to rebuild that setting from ANH so they wrote it into the novelization and also in that crappy Shadows of the Empire book. This mock up scene they've constructed to generate the same old wild imagination that fanboys let loose every time Lucas announces another SW project or home video release is another classic Lucas fabrication in the long line of Lucas lies and fabrications. And NO, that's not Mark Hamill under the hood and its not even his hands! And the stock footage of 3PO in the background is simply digitally superimposed.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 7:20 p.m. CST

    And Adywans Star Wars Revisited..

    by CeejayNightwing

    is miles better than Lucas's million dollar attempt and he did it all with his own time and money! Shame on you Lucas!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Prayed for fixes:

    by deelzbub

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 7:46 p.m. CST

    My prayed for fixes:

    by deelzbub

    1. Han shoots first 2. Restore Anchorhead scene 3. Put Lapti nek back 4. Let Han die in ROTJ, badass-style 5. Mos Eisley stilt monster 6. Show Boba Fett escaping in post-credits epilogue after ROTJ 7. Put Jar Jar back in blackface, the way he was intended 8. Keep that Luke rebuilding lightsaber scene 9. No Ewoks, just Wookies, thank you 10. Bring back the sandstorm 11. Have Luke ride off Eastwood-style into the sunset 12. More Tusken Raiders - they're hillbillies in space! 13. Han and the Mos Eisley hooker 14. Wampa attack!

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST

    I don't think I can fully explain how happy I am.

    by Yelsaeb

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST

    LV-426, about the sitcom...

    by rabidfnark

    Yeah. I heard some noise about it on this site a while back. Something about it taking place after Jedi (I think) and Seth Green(e?)'s involvement (again, I SUPPOSE it's possible I hallucinated the whole thing, but I haven't been on drugs THAT strong in a while). It all may have gone awry since I last heard, but that's it in a nutshell.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 8 p.m. CST

    Yes, shame on Lucas. A kid in his basement

    by RPLocke

    reworked Star Wars should be king. Lol, what an argument.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST

    How the hell did that scene not make it in?

    by Dolmes

    Nobody would care about Ewoks. (btw I like the Ewoks and fuck you)

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST

    The FX look old because THEY ARE OLD.

    by Toilet_Terror

    STAR WARS is a goddamn old movie.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 8:13 p.m. CST

    He'll never be able to improve TPM

    by quantize

    Because there's almost nothing redeeming about it..

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Kind of get the feeling this was thrown together...

    by SK229

    I don't know. Maybe you could see it at the screening, but Luke's face is obscured enough for that to not even be him. The Vader stuff could have been taken from elsewhere. And the elevator stuff I remember seeing in an ROTJ trailer when the movie was released. I do think it's cool, though... I actually think it frames the entire movie and improves it, if even just a little bit. <p>As for movies I want on blu-ray: Barry Lyndon, Lawrence of Arabia (an absolute travesty it's not on BD yet, fuck you Sony), Star Wars Trilogy, Jaws, and Apocalypse Now.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 8:39 p.m. CST

    "I have altered the films...."

    by Amazing Maurice

    "...pray I do not alter them further."

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Redeemed Darth Vader

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Dumb idea

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Nevver believe Gary Kurtz

    by Odkin

    Going to read the article now but feel like mentioning that I worked for a collection agency in the 80's and let's just say I had a lot of dealings with Mr Kurtz and his BS "poor Gary is broke" accountants.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 8:57 p.m. CST

    (btw I like the Ewoks and fuck you)

    by rabidfnark

    Bravo, and well said, Dolmes. Not so much because I agree with the sentiment, but because that line made me smile. I get the Ewok hate. I do. But they are...well...kind of adorable. They don't fit well into the film. They feel forced, strange, and more than a little annoying but I'll be damned if, every fucking time, when that one dies and the other goes to see if he's okay, realizes he's not, and begins to wail, I don't feel very sad. Maybe it's a hold over from when I was wee.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST

    I'll Buy The Originals Unaltered On Bluray

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    that's about it...so I have a while to wait

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 9:50 p.m. CST

    to be Luke or not

    by Bouncy X

    Hamill says he doesnt remmeber shooting that and his face is covered so you cant even tell who it is. not hard to imagine it was just done with a double, it happens all the time in movies.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 9:56 p.m. CST

    That introduction of Luke was amazing!

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    I mean that was bad-ass! The shadow of the hood just hits all the right beats. Could you imagine if they had played up Luke's temptation towards the dark side? Yes, there's Ewoks and singing aliens, but ROTJ has the great emotional payoff of Vader redeeming himself. It would have played even stronger had they amped up Luke's temptation. I hope they go whole hog with the deleted scenes. It would be awesome for fans to make their own cuts from the material. That would be the definitive film school in a box that Lucas used to talk about. He really used to care about using Star Wars as an educational tool, then he got way too protective when he should have embraced people making their own cuts. It would be the ultimate flattery. Many people want to improve or put their own touch on something that they enjoy; this ideal should be embraced.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Time and expense prohibitive?

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    That sounds almost as plausible as Hitler's intentions of only border readjustments. Seriously they can re-release them countless times but a full restoration is impossible with all the money he has? Sure

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 10:30 p.m. CST

    i already have these version in 1080p

    by TheJudger

    cant wait to compare them to the wookiegroomer 1080p german broadcast versions. I've been watching this series in 1080p for over 3 years now. Lucas is late to the party so hopefully theres tons of new shit and somehow I dont know how a better transfer. See for me what i hate the most about the special eddtions dvd and bluray is the punched up fucking colors. They added tons of digital color gel effects and skin tones and, well everything is always fucked up and off colorwise. Hopefully lucas will atleast fix that. have to keep an eye on DVD beaver for info when it comes out. Wrath of Kahn got color raped when it came out on bluray as well. Less educated fans for that film so no one really spoke out about it. too much orange and red digital gel filter effect in Kahhhhhhhhhhnnnnn!!! Why fuck with perfect. Keep the color timing as it was. I guess the pink vader saber will change in the very least.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 10:41 p.m. CST

    I got 1080P too

    by Kontarsky

    Only reason I'd buy is for cut scenes of original trilogy. blu rays of prequels? unnecessary.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 10:48 p.m. CST

    they were very illusive when I got them.

    by TheJudger

    You had to know someone who knew someone to get this group. Not from a torrent, but from a usenet group, and that ment paying for it through a service that let you download large files from usenet groups. I'd imagine they are easy as piss to find now through places like demonoid. Each one was created in Window Media HD, and sized around 8.5 gigs, so they would fit on a DVD9 disc. <P> Yeah I'm fucking happy I downloaded them instead of waiting like an abused fan.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 10:51 p.m. CST

    I've spent more money on star wars

    by TheJudger

    than anything else. theres no way in the world I will ever feel bad for doing this. I would buy the blurays to watch only for the features at this point and to have them on a movie disc format that will last longer than a burnt disc or a harddrive, and thats the only reason. So GL better hurry the hell up and make the 3d version and the OT superset.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 11:14 p.m. CST

    All of this about the "original" prints being lost...

    by kevred

    ...wouldn't every second of the first film have to have been reproduced and completely cleaned up in preparation for the new effects when the SE version was first created back in the 90s? It seems ludicrous to think that the first step in making that version wouldn't be to create a pristine copy of the original film, end to end, to use as the new canvas. Is there more to the story I'm missing?

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 11:18 p.m. CST

    This nonsense about "old-looking" effects

    by kevred

    Name me one single special effect from the last 5 years that anyone cares about as much as those "dated" effects from Star Wars.<p>Fools who focus on the technical perfection of an effect are losing sight of the purpose of effects - to help tell the story - and also overlook the fact that the original SW effects have a *style* and *artistry* that has simply not been exceeded.<p>There are probably tens of thousands of artists in the world today who are more technically proficient than Van Gogh or Hendrix were. But who cares? Who made the ART? That is the only question that counts.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 11:27 p.m. CST

    "improve or put their own touch on something that they enjoy"

    by kevred

    "Many people want to improve or put their own touch on something that they enjoy."<p>Pathetic. If Lucas had aimed that low, there never would have been a Star Wars. Technology has made it too easy to be a pretender.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 11:30 p.m. CST

    kevred - original prints

    by ObiBen

    Have you noticed that in the Empire of Dreams documentary, all the OT snippets, of pristine quality, come from the original versions and not the special editions? It's almost as if they chose the scenes on purpose.

  • Aug. 14, 2010, 11:39 p.m. CST

    Old FX

    by ObiBen

    The opening star destroyer shot from Star Wars still blows all the prequel spaceship shots out of the water. Even the version they recreated for the Imax documentary didn't look as good (no thanks to stupid visible shields bubbles, à la Star Trek the Holiday Inn Generation)

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Oh man

    by Tacoloft

    There goes more of my money. That short clip was sweet.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 12:28 a.m. CST

    xbox kiddies?

    by waltztothemoon

    heh starwars on bluray makes 360 kiddies cry

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 1:23 a.m. CST

    kevred

    by catlettuce4

    Yes, you are missing the fact that Lucas basically destroyed the original negatives AFTER cleaning them up in order to create the special editions. Here's a detailed explanation for you... incidentally, everyone with an interest in the original versions may want to read this: http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/savingstarwars.html (take out the spaces naturally)

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 1:24 a.m. CST

    Sure the effects look a tad dated today...

    by conspiracy

    but for some odd reason they hold up much better than most CGI from the last 15 years or so. That opening sequence in Star Wars still is the benchmark...and a thing of beauty.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 1:25 a.m. CST

    Killing Han Solo

    by catlettuce4

    It's a bad idea because kids (me included at the time) would have absolutely hated it. And simply killing him in the version they did make would have been bad. But in the grand scheme of things, a version of Jedi where Han died saving them all at the end (I'm thinking piloting his own ship against the Death Star) would have worked very well. It would not have been "happy" but would have fit the story and been resonant.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 1:58 a.m. CST

    Phantom Menace is ironically the best prequel

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    the other two feel so schizoid, at least with TPM you feel one sole vision throughout.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 3:31 a.m. CST

    Need a deleted scene of Three-pio

    by Dennis_Moore

    having his giant dick from the trading card returned to him, and of Luke hard-X fucking the shit of of Leia between ESB and ROTJ (fuck Shadows of the Empire) one drunken evening reminiscing over Han.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 3:35 a.m. CST

    Seriously, though I was born in '73

    by Dennis_Moore

    and Star Wars (or ANH or whatever the fuck I'm supposed to call it now) was the first movie I recall consiciously seeing in the theater. I was still a kid when Ewoks came on the scene and our course I was charmed by them, but I totally understand now the irritation or outright loathing. Still like them, though. As poorly executed as it was, they do sorta represent the danger of the Empire to innocents. I had that making of book from the time that had some weird concept sketches of proto-Ewoks with long spindly legs. Though the later spider-y or alien proportion aliens of the prequels seem out of place considering the originals established that most of the aliens were in anthropomorphic proportions.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 3:38 a.m. CST

    Oh, and how the heck does one download

    by Dennis_Moore

    files off Usenet? Never been able to figure it out, given my lack of computer mastery. Torrents are relatively easy for general public, but what is an easy method for Usenet? Thanks in advance for the help if it were offered.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 4:10 a.m. CST

    So Kurtz went on to do The Dark Crystal with

    by Dennis_Moore

    Henson? That explains things. Cool movie, and Henson was an all-time genius, but TDC is entirely too gloom and doom. Henson later said so himself. Why I prefer Labyrinth. It may be part fruity, but I've fruity tastes, often.<p>I think the lesson learned is that Kurtz and Lucas has what the other needs - Kurtz his grit and integrity and Lucas his candy-coated cheeriness and business acumen. Amalgamated they soften each other's edges. Yin and Yang. Sort of like those joined urSkeks beings in The Dark Crystal. It's like Moz and Marr after the split.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 5:46 a.m. CST

    TheJudger -

    by kabookieslap

    "Wrath of Kahn got color raped when it came out on bluray as well. Less educated fans for that film so no one really spoke out about it. too much orange and red digital gel filter effect in Kahhhhhhhhhhnnnnn!!!" No they didn't. i saw it when it opened in the first tun theater in 1982, and then saw it about 4 more times at the second run theaters a few months later. They did not do anything to it color wise. That is exactly how it was when released. Previous video and DVD versions are no way to match it as they did not have the DP's overseeing the color timing during transfer. The only thing they had to do with Kahn was to make an IP as the film was deteriorating, which is what Lucas had to do to A New Hope. It is softer as it is another generation removed from the final IN used to make the prints, but that is it. That is how the film looked upon release.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 7:05 a.m. CST

    fucking sweet

    by The_Crimson_King

    THESE are the kind of movies I want to see coming to blu ray, not "Santa Claus: the Movie", now just give me Indiana Jones (I'm happy SW is coming to blu, but now I'm afraid we wont get Indy till 2012, given the choice I'd rather have Indy on blu first) and Jurassic Park and I'll be happy (well I'll truly be happy if you give me every Spielberg movie ever on blu)

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 7:09 a.m. CST

    by the way

    by The_Crimson_King

    I have not seen the original Star Wars trilogy since 2002 when Attack of The Clones came out and that was on fucking VHS, seeing them in HD after so many years will probably make me jizz my pants

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST

    a bit late yes?

    by DioxholsterReturns

    this is awesome but i wouldve liked it alot more 3 years ago.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Not Buying This

    by LaserPants

    I've already given Luca$h enough of my money.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 9:53 a.m. CST

    People of a certain age...

    by Arteska

    Say..anyone older their late 30's bitching about not having access to the Pre-Special Edition versions in any number of home format(s) is a complete moron. You literally passed up about 20 opportunities (or more perhaps) to have them in your hands. Also people that are unfamiliar with the image and effects quality of the movies before the Special Edition restorations (and they were restorations not just added CGI) would scarcely recognize the movies and most of today's ikids would literally LOL and mock and ridicule some (particularly effects) sequences. And as long as there is AICN I guess there will be a place to flay Lucas. I swear the writers here believe they have to make a jab on a scheduled basis to keep oxygen pumped in.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Agree with the guy who said....

    by grendel69

    He hasnt cared abotu Star Wars since Jar Jar hit the screen. Lucas obviously lost his mind a long time ago, well before the PT - which some of his changed to the OT. I will always love Star Wars and Empire, but could really care less about the rest.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Arteska, YOU are correct my friend!

    by ZodNotGod

    All you assholes who constantly bash Lucas and can't wait to get your crybaby bromides out for the world to hear make me sick. It's the same old tune and you are always dead-fucking wrong! Greedo shooting first is no longer accurate. It DOES NOT EXIST, except on the VHS versions! Han and Greedo now shoot simultaneously! And the Special Editions are actually superior so shut your gobs. AICN, for once I would love to read a story that didn't involve your constant editorializing and negative attitudes.Real reporters/Journalists report the news unbiasedly and without agenda or opinion, try it sometime, you might find your readership increase. Zzzzzzzzz...you hate Lucas for making money, (as all slimy Liberals do) and TPM raped you...blah blah blah. It's your problem, not Lucas'. As for Kurtz, he was fired because he didn't do his FUCKING JOB! He did not walk away, he was canned. A lesson to the kids, don't spend other peoples money in wasteful ways and expect them not to get pissed. If he would stop bad-mouthing Lucas in the press sounding like a bitter old cunt, maybe he'd get a job offer again.Where the hell is 5-25-77 ?

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 10:43 a.m. CST

    .....

    by ZodNotGod

    And stop with the, 'he won't get my money again,' YES he will. This bitching about double-dipped or whatever is no different than the LOTR horseshit. I have SW on VHS two times and once on DVD, all are different versions, so fucking what?

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 10:45 a.m. CST

    grendel69

    by ZodNotGod

    A complete dumbass if you only like two out of the six films! YOU are not a fan so stop posting and acting like you know what you are talking about. True fans only.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST

    ZodNotGod

    by ObiBen

    You sound like a Trekkie who forgot his medication.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, noon CST

    IO

    by dumbpeoplesuck

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Adywan's Star Wars revisted

    by JAGUART

    Is pure quality.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    so these arent the "Final Archival Editions"

    by darthwaz1

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    YYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY

    by JDanielP

    I only wanted to add that I am very happy about this. And I really want the original trilogy, as originally shot. (Back in the day, I picked it up for over 100 bucks on VHS and it was worth EVERY PENNY!)

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 12:20 p.m. CST

    I’ll say it again

    by dumbpeoplesuck

    Not sure what happened in that last post…I’d just started typing and for some reason, BAM! It posted my first two characters. *ahem* ANYHOW…the ewoks were necessary. Like how they look or not, they were too primitive for the Emperor’s vision. He could not see them interrupting his carefully laid out plans, and they were the Hobbits in the Star Wars galaxy. They changed the course of the battle in such an unexpected way that our heroes were able to win out against the empire. Wookies would have been too far advanced a species, and the Emperor would have anticipated them. They would have figured into his vision. I agree, though, the SE ending was far superior to the original yub yub dance. Far more poignant. To me, that new ending music and the cutaways made the special editions worth it. Now, if Greedo still shoots first in these forthcoming releases, I’d really, really appreciate some young fanboy with far more time on his hands than I have to swap out that horride scene from A New Hope with the original and far superior Han shooting first scene. That would save me them time it takes to swap out the disc. I refuse to watch that bad dream at all. I typically watch the original version up to that point, and swap out the disc after Han flips the barkeep his Sorry about the mess coin. The SE Death Star battle sequence plays much better than the original, and that makes A New Hope’s SE worth it for me. Oh, and George? I like the SE DVD treatment of Luke’s dive away from Vader into Cloud City much better than it was in the theater in 1997. Please DO NOT reinstate the sissy yell. That’s not at all Jedi-like. George taught us all what it was to be a Jedi, but he fell too close to the dark side for a long time. Here’s hoping Luke turns him back to the good side.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 1:07 p.m. CST

    I've seen scenes for un-messed with hd empire

    by UltraTron

    and the blue matte edges around the superstardestroyer's windows glowed with the deep blue energy of matte-line window forcefields

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Basically Lucas failed us all. That's his legacy.

    by UltraTron

    Failed promise. Could have been different. I really can't see how you could have screwed up more than he did. But then the original cut of starwars did reveal him for the idiot he was. What we got was the work of several people creating something much greater

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Lucas can't afford to restore theatrical version?

    by HughJass

    Is anyone supposed to believe that?

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 1:59 p.m. CST

    I don't care if Lucas corrects technical limitation

    by SithMenace

    mistakes from the 80's, like matte lines. Hell, he can even leave that awesome digital sunset when it wipes to R2 on Tatooine in ANH, but leave the structure of the films alone. No new scenes. <p>In fact, with Blu Ray, isn't it possible to have a choice between films? Touched and untouched? I think Blu-Ray's capacity is plenty big enough to contain two versions of one film on each disc. But then how would Lucas sell two different sets of Blu-Rays? <p>I for one will be waiting, unless they restore the Jabba's palace sequence to exactly what it was in the original, and remove that ridiculous Sarlaac snake face. Leave a little mystery for fuck's sake. I want the old Ewok celebration song back too. It was cheesy, but it's part of my childhood film going experience.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST

    JAGUART

    by RPLocke

    Pure quality my ass. His Death Star battle is so cartoony it made me laugh through the whole thing.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Kurtz should have been in charge

    by DeadAtRecess

    “We had an outline and George changed everything in it," Kurtz said. “Instead of bittersweet and poignant he wanted a euphoric ending with everybody happy. The original idea was that they would recover [the kidnapped] Han Solo in the early part of the story and that he would then die in the middle part of the film in a raid on an Imperial base. George then decided he didn’t want any of the principals killed. By that time there were really big toy sales and that was a reason.”

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Oh you Kurtz lovers

    by RPLocke

    People didn't even know who he was at the Star Wars con. Laughable.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 6:32 p.m. CST

    I prefer the "Han shoots early" cut on YouTube.

    by Dennis_Moore

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Revisionist History+Greedo Shooting First=...

    by DatoMan413

    Figured I'd get into this one, being careful not to go into the prequels, cause that just makes my ass hurt. Some of the improvements made to the originals were just adding more texture to the universe; Cloud City, Mos Isley, and so on. And if the changes stopped there, no problem. Greedo shooting first to make Han look like less of a rogue, that's just revisionist history per George. In other words, Revisionist History+Greedo Shooting First=BULLSHIT.<BR><BR>Having said that, IT'S GEORGE'S BULLSHIT. As much as I and most of us bitch and moan, George doesn't care because he knows the majority will snap up the Blu-Rays the moment it comes out. As for me, I'll probably wait.<BR><BR>By the way, there were a couple scenes, which escape me right now, but I was like "They chose to fix the Han/Greedo with with god-awful animation but they didn't fix (insert scene here)?WTF?!

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 6:41 p.m. CST

    That's because most of the people at the con

    by SithMenace

    are ADD prequel retards. Aka Pretards. How can you claim to be a Star Wars fan and not know who Gary Kurtz is? <p>It's no coincidence that, while still good, ROTJ is the weakest film of the OT. Some of that was Marquand, and the rest most likely was the lack of involvement from Gary Kurtz. It's a shame Lucas was unable to hire Spielberg, like he originally wanted. 1983 Spielberg directing an original trilogy SW film? I think the Earth would have exploded from the sheer awesomeness.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 7:31 p.m. CST

    WHERE THE FUCK IS THE LIVE ACTION SERIES NEWS LUCAS

    by []D[][]V[][]D

    Also the original theatrical editions were released in 2006 in letterboxed format as "bonus-discs" sourced from Laser Disc masters. Much better than your fan-edited "anamorphic" Laser Disc to DVD encodes. On that note this BLURay release will be the final nail of your fan edited Star Wars, where the the colours and contrast are boosted. Fan-editors always post screenshots from 2004 DVD and compare them to their edit-sourced from the 2006 HD TV Broadcast and go "see how much better my version looks!!!". I can boost colours and contrast on my own thanks. seriously, thanks Jon Stewart for not asking the question everyone is asking "why aren't you getting up off your diabetic ass vis-a-vis the Star Wars Live Action TV Series". It's been SIX FUCKING YEARS since it was announced ...ironically when the SD-DVDS were released in 2004.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 7:31 p.m. CST

    WHERE THE FUCK IS THE LIVE ACTION SERIES NEWS LUCAS

    by []D[][]V[][]D

    Also the original theatrical editions were released in 2006 in letterboxed format as "bonus-discs" sourced from Laser Disc masters. Much better than your fan-edited "anamorphic" Laser Disc to DVD encodes. On that note this BLURay release will be the final nail of your fan edited Star Wars, where the the colours and contrast are boosted. Fan-editors always post screenshots from 2004 DVD and compare them to their edit-sourced from the 2006 HD TV Broadcast and go "see how much better my version looks!!!". I can boost colours and contrast on my own thanks. seriously, thanks Jon Stewart for not asking the question everyone is asking "why aren't you getting up off your diabetic ass vis-a-vis the Star Wars Live Action TV Series". It's been SIX FUCKING YEARS since it was announced ...ironically when the SD-DVDS were released in 2004.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Kurtz is WRONG. The ending he envisioned would NOT have

    by Coughlins Laws

    been better. I could make a case for Han dying at the beginning of the third act, but to not have Luke decisively win, really? In theory, a little darker would've been cool. But that's just too far and too emotionally unsatisfying...

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Ahem.

    by ZodNotGod

    And you sound like a bitter asshole who didn't get his way like Mommie promised. Han die at the end? Why? So dumb. Granted Han's arc is a little dull once he gets in the forest, but to kill him off would have been all kinds of foolish- a real downer in the worst, unsatisfying way.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Stop making shit up just to bitch about it!

    by ZodNotGod

    You people are bitching about things that NO LONGER EXIST! On the DVDs now: there is NO Greedo shooting first. There is no scream when Luke falls in Cloud City, (the scream in the 97 edition was how it was originally shot, but not put into the theatrical versions until the re-releases). And the endings to the SE are vastly superior, at least Jedi with the Galaxy wide celebration and the cool new, music.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Oh you Kurtz lovers by RPLocke Aug 15th, 2010 06:19:00 PM People

    by ZodNotGod

    HAW! YES!

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Wait, so the latest SE dvd's have Han shooting

    by SithMenace

    first again? As in, it's back to how it originally was in '77?

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 9:01 p.m. CST

    ROTJ changes I'd like to see...

    by Obiwankedabi

    If I could have just 2 visual effects changes to this blu ray version of Jedi, it would be to redo the shot of the droids being lifted out of the sand and the the star destroyer crashing into the death star. Both those looked subpar even in 1983.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 9:05 p.m. CST

    SithMenace - Latest DVDs

    by ObiBen

    I went looking on Amazon, and all of this is confusing as hell. I think the DVDs are the same as in 2005, it's just that they are screwing with the packaging and bonus material.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Yeah obiben, that's what I have, the 2005 dvd's

    by SithMenace

    Even if they changed that one scene on the new release, it's still not justification enough to double dip, but it does make me hold out hope that the ridiculous parts will be corrected on the Blu-Ray.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Lightsaber reveal scene

    by Campion

    I don't know, I liked the saber being revealed on the sail barge. Up until then no one had even seen a green lightsaber, and the moment he lit it up was so damn cool to me as a kid. It's ok to see a scene that was filmed and cut out, but I don't really need it in ROTJ.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 11:10 p.m. CST

    SithMenace - I had forgotten

    by ObiBen

    There was a release in 2006 including the untouched versions as bonus material. Apparently the transfer from the laserdisk dubs weren't very good. Anyways, the same story will repeat itself with HD, then soon enough with 2K-4K formats and on and on. Lucas seems to have found a way to stick a moisture vaporator up the proverbial cow's ass, 'cos we're way past powdered milk stage by now.

  • Aug. 15, 2010, 11:44 p.m. CST

    I posted this in the other SW thread...

    by DeadAtRecess

    ...but there are two SW threads on here posting about the same things. Ok so I'm a copy and paste it here...post starts now...The ending wouldn't have been a downer, it would have been poignant. Even Hank Ford said that he thought that Han should have died. I at least think that they should have killed Lando in the Falcon while trying to escape from the Death Star before it exploded. The ending of ROTJ is WAY too upbeat. It's like there was no sacrifice. Sure Darth finally came around and bitch slapped his boss to save his kid, but he was a villain for 99% of the trilogy. They needed to show sacrifice from the good guys. Not just random pilots of varying ethnicity blowing up in space. Did they even show any of the Rebel commandos die on the moon of Endor? Wow, I don't think that they did. What a stark contrast to the first 5 minutes of ANH, where like a billion Stormtroopers massacre like 30 Rebel dudes in a hallway on Princess Leia's Corellian Corvette (or Blockade Runner if you prefer). ANH and ESB set the tone for the story. The bad guys were BAD. There was violence and bleakness in this galaxy that the story took place in. There was darkness. Even look at the Mos Eisley cantina, that good 'ol "wretched hive of scum and villainy"...Luke was accosted and they would have killed him had Ben not been there...and none of the other patrons would have batted an eye. Then we get to ROTJ, and I'm sorry but the ending does not fit the tone of the other two films. Even the beginning of Jedi at Jabba's palace when he mercilessly kills Oola by feeding her to the Rancor. That was some harsh shit. The ending just does not fit AT ALL with the tone set up by the first 2 films and the beginning of the 3rd. I'm talking about the original ending. The "special ed-edition" ending is wickedly stupid. So they show all of these places erupting in joyous celebration after the Emperor dies? Like everybody in the galaxy KNEW that he was dead when he died at a SECRET LOCATION? And did all the other Imperial troops just turn to dust like they were some sort of fucking magical spell? To me ROTJ gets a lot more flack than it deserves. Yeah I hate the Tarzan yell and the saccharine sweet ending, but Luke and Darth have a badass fight and Luke is a total hero in the end the way he stands up to Palpatine and says "Fuck you". I also like that the Rebel fleet is just convinced they are fucked so they give it their all. Just wanted to be clear that I don't hate ROTJ (I hate all of the special editions and all of the prequels, and the Holiday Special, which was better than all the prequels combined), but I hate the ENDING of ROTJ. It should have been grittier and with some sort of sacrifice on the part of the Rebels. This was called Star WARS after all.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 1:14 a.m. CST

    Kurtz and Lucas tell so many stories...

    by Chief Joseph

    I've heard that Lando was supposed to die in ROTJ. Kurtz said that Luke was supposed to die in one interview. Now he's saying it was Han. I'm starting to think neither Lucas nor Kurtz had anything planned out at all.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 1:19 a.m. CST

    The Tarzan yell

    by Chief Joseph

    When I was a kid I thought that it was an Ewok making the Tarzan yell and I had no problem with it. Years later, it was pointed out to me it was actually CHEWBACCA yelling and now that scene annoys me every time. I hope Adywan does away with it or pitches it up to sound like an Ewok.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 1:38 a.m. CST

    Kurtz is a doofus

    by darthvedder81

    He's mopes around giving interviews chock full of his sour grapes and then milks the Saga for all it's worth by showing up at conventions. People who say he and Kershner were some sort of film geniuses forget the fact that neither of those two guys did anything before or after their involvement with Star Wars that was worth a shit. I thank them for their contributions to the Saga but let's not get carried away. Oh and Kurtz's ending would have been horrible. After the downer that was ESB Star Wars needed to end on an upbeat note of resolution (especially in light of Ep. 1-3). Kurtz didn't get that and GL (you know that guy who invented the whole thing??) did.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 3:15 a.m. CST

    darthvedder81

    by DeadAtRecess

    You are a total FUCKING IDIOT to say that Kurtz and Kirshner did'nt do anything that was worth a shit. What are you, 12???? Do you sleep in Jar Jar sheets? RED LETTER MEDIA. You're scared to watch them. You're scared of the TRUTH. "I started watching them, but I couldn't stand his voice/tone"...but you could tolerate FUCKING JAR JAR??????

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 6:09 a.m. CST

    I couldn't care less how good the SEs look on bluray...

    by Cervantes

    ...considering how much some of the ill-thought-out crap 'additions' managed to ruin the pace of things.<P>I'll certainly be sticking with Adywan's STAR WARS:REVISITED for the likes of Han shooting first!

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Good clip, but glad they cut it

    by Abominable Snowcone

    It explains nothing and didn't need to be in the movie. That said, any BluRay of the OT should have bonus material with all deleted scenes included

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Why kill Han off?

    by Abominable Snowcone

    All that time rescuing him after the traumatic carbon freezing, and they were gonna kill him? Fuuuuhh

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 3:05 p.m. CST

    C'mon Lucas....

    by cooper2000

    Are we going to get the unaltered movies??

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 4:31 p.m. CST

    I would rather have a worn-out VHS copy

    by Bronx Cheer

    of Star Wars than have to watch the new shit. And it's not EP4 or A New Hope. It's called Star Wars. Take your revisionist ret-con bullshit and leave me alone. And get off my lawn while you're at it.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Don't have a Blu-Ray

    by HapaPapa72

    But that scene was pretty cool. It may or may have not have fit in the OT release but damn, it was cool to see Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight one more time.

  • Aug. 16, 2010, 5:45 p.m. CST

    These aren't the blurays your looking for.

    by Tikidonkeypunch

  • Aug. 18, 2010, 4:46 a.m. CST

    Hmmm...

    by woodcutter1973

    Anyone else think this was filmed last weekend and suddenly "discovered" in the Lucasfilm archives? I dunno, smells like something Jar Jar stepped in to me.

  • Aug. 19, 2010, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Wait, so the latest SE dvd's have Han shooting by SithMenace

    by ZodNotGod

    YES, sort of. They shoot simultaneously, which is not as cool, but still better than the other way. So anyone who tells you it's not fixed, is a fucking liar. The Greedo shooting first has is only on the SE VHS versions, the 2004 DVDs have the preferable change.