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Writer: Neal Adams Art: Neal Adams Publisher: DC Comics Reviewer: Professor Challenger

“Prof. Challenger” is actually Texas graphic artist and lifelong reader of comics, Keith Howell. He really digs Green Lantern, most recently completed the cover art for the upcoming book THE WORLDS OF PHILIP JOSÉ FARMER, and has contributed award-winning art, design, and editing to a number of books and magazines. He occasionally updates his website at at and welcomes feedback from readers, both pro and con, but if female please include an attached pic in a tasteful state of undress. Thanks for all the fish.

The ‘Holes Double Team THE BOYS #45

Writer: Garth Ennis Art: Russ Braun Publisher: Dynamite Entertainment Reviewer: Optimous Douche (OD) & Henry Higgins is My Homeboy (HHH)

HHH: Can we see Ennis' version of “Up” now? Please? With THE BOYS, Garth Ennis has created one of the most horrifying, crazed, perverted takes on super heroes ever dreamt up, and for that he has my eternal thanks. THE BOYS' entire run has been a demented hell ride, and it's just now hitting its stride by following up on some lingering plot threads and irrevocably changing up the status quo with this issue.
OD: Quite honestly, after reading this issue, I want to see Ennis on SUPERMAN. I know this series started as an indictment of superheroes, but what it has become is the modern day definition of heroes; people who are fighting for humanity, but like humanity are tragically flawed. I selected Wee Hughie as my Character Of The Year in 2009 for a reason, although it took this issue to truly cement what I was trying to articulate last year. Wee Hughie is the modern day Everyman, and this issue drove that point home for me like a nail gun through my temple. Clark Kent with all of his virtues and aww shuckedness can no longer serve Superman as his conduit to humanity. Clark Kent by his very nature sets him apart from 80% of the people out there. I’ve been to the Midwest; they sell anti-depressants there. Now Wee Hughie, however, is a wee ball of angst and this issue where his long-time gal pal finally fesses up to being part of the Douchetastic Seven brought all of Hughie’s humanity gushing forth.
HHH: I think there's an issue of HITMAN where Ennis actually tried Superman. I hate Superman, and even I liked it. Which is what tends to set Hugie above the other characters here. I don't know if I would go as far as "Best character", but he's certainly up there. That's he's seen all this death and pain and suffering, not just in the world but taken a fair share himself, and yet he can still have a laugh with his girlfriend or defend some thick want to be heroes, that's a fantastic character. The "Everyman" trope, showing the amount of good a person can have in them. Same reason I've liked Starlight's arc as well. This innocent girl next door is taking a lot of hits to her armor, but she still may be the best person out of the lot. Not saying much, no, but still quite impressive. Which leaves us with the other big point of this issue: Homelander.
OD: I never trust anyone that comes across as too good; everyone, and I mean everyone, has some little deviance welling beneath the surface. Learn from Jim Baker and the Catholic Church. The pimple that is Homelander has been swelling with evil on the back of this book since page one, and this issue drew the final line in the sand for Butcher to pop the fucker. The device of the Christian carnival was tops for Homelander's reveal, non?
HHH: That was fantastic. Having the basic cliche church gathering as the background to the Homelander's plan, and the simple fact he's so...fine with it. Not excited, not devious, almost bored. He knows what's going on, he knows he can win, he just wants to make sure he's not the only person still standing afterwards. It seems like Oh Father may be one of the big guns in this universe, and he's terrified by this, and by Homelander. The series is heading towards a major conflict, and it'll be interesting to see who comes out of it.
OD: I wonder if it can survive or if Ennis wants it to. So many long-strung plots are converging at once could the whole damn thing implode?
HHH: I remember reading somewhere Ennis laid out the series, and at its longest it would only hit seventy. We're getting dangerously close to the fifty line. I'm thinking this arc will set up the big conflict, and we've got a super civil war, a proper one. No holding back because of friends, both sides aiming to kill. Homelander's forces siding with Vought, while the other goes against him(probably led by the Sevens's Wonder Woman expy), and The Boys in the middle taking out whoever they can get their hands on. It shouldn't be a surprise if the series ends with no one left. I'm just hoping Butcher and Homelander get a brawl, even if the conclusion is obvious(safe money says that Butcher isn't walking out of this series, which will be a shame. Too many series try to do the anti hero, the black trenchcoat with a heart of gold. Almost universally, they end up "redeemed" or just weren't that dark to begin with. Butcher, you hate for what he's put Hughie into but love for his defense of Momma's Milk). I think Ennis has a plan for the series, and we're starting to head to the end game.
OD: Sad, because this one could have legs. The world is just as real as the characters we’ve been following. And finally the characters are people I’m truly starting to care about – even beyond Hughie. Oh, well…the end isn’t here yet. Great issue, great story and a damn far cry from the arc in Russia that almost made me drop this series. If you were like me, but actually pulled the trigger – come back, this book has matured into one of the most compelling serials going. And don’t worry, for every wee speck o’ heart there are heaping doses of cunt and cock right behind.
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Writer: Harvey Klinger, Inc. Art: Goran Parlov Publisher: Marvel Comics Reviewer: KletusCasady

I will pretty much give anything a chance that involves the Punisher, but I couldn’t help thinking to myself; “Didn’t this happen before?” After reading it I see that there’s a different approach but still very similar. Also didn’t Punisher already fight hordes of Zombie superheroes in the first MARVEL ZOMBIES? I’m not outright saying this book is a rip off of those series but you can kind of tell Mayberry had to dance around many of the obvious similarities to those earlier series, not that that is necessarily a bad thing but I can see a reader avoiding it and saving their $3.99 for something that is newer, seems less like something that already happened or anything written by Bendis (I kid…I kid). I liked this issue but I’m not sure what the point is when there were two previous series that seemed to be combined to make this series (got all that…good…lets continue) but I love Goran Parlov’s PUNISHER so I’ll be buying this entire series.
If any one was wondering, “what’s the deal with the CROSSED--why do they do foul things and beat people to death with animal naughty bits!?!?” well this comic pretty much explains what the crossed are and how they differ from zombies. Allow me to quote Dick Fantastic: “…He can think but his Higher reasoning functions have been disabled. He’s been reduced to a more primitive state. A kind of Cannibalistic predator...” See, not a zombie, a cannibalistic predator…I guess the difference is zombies aren’t predators they’re just…there.
See? All cleared up.
I think anyone with half a brain can figure out the premise of this story: The Punisher vs. cannibalistic predator Marvel heroes. It’s pretty basic but that’s the appeal of Punisher stories: no time travel, no cosmic cubes, no space travel, no Punisher being turned into Frankenstein’s monster…well…scratch that last one, but this is why we read Punisher: to watch him exact brutal vigilante justice with little to no questions asked and this time to see him kill all the heroes you hate. This comic delivers in that area but much like PUNISHER KILLS THE MARVEL UNIVERSE, you begin to ask yourself, “is this possible?” What I mean by that is could Frank Castle actually survive a battle with an uninhibited Thing? I mean didn’t Dake…yeah I won’t bring it up.
Some of the fights hinted at in this issue seem like they’d be the fight of Punisher’s life and we don’t really get to see those battles. Punisher v Thing is a hell of a battle and we don’t get to see any of that. The artwork is awesome as usual and Parlov is one of my favorite Punisher artists. There are others who handle the gory stuff better (Leandro Fernandez) but something about Parlov’s artwork just really resonates with me and I can’t put my finger on it. I wish they would do a PUNISHER MAX cartoon and get him to do the art because I could see his style translated to a cartoon very easily not to mention it would look great without taking the grittiness out of the Punisher. I guess that’s what I like about him: his artwork is very cartoonish with the exaggerated faces and vibrant colors but it also can deliver the grittiness by way of heavy shadowing and lots of blood.
I always end my review and say “if you’re into ‘character x’ then you’ll like this book,” but I really think that’s the first criteria for most readers to even pick up a comic and consider buying it. This is a fun comic and even someone with a minimal interest in the Punisher should find this fun. I think people will be split with the artwork because its really different than the other Punisher artwork which is mostly dark colors with a more realistic feel to them where as this artwork looks more cartoony and exaggerated. It’s like the difference between Ed McGuinness and Mike Deodato with Pavlov being on the McGuinness side of things. Parlov actually puts a couple cool things in the background of a lot of the panels in this issue like a certain four woman morning TV show going CROSSED on the audience and it’s little things like this that add to my like for him as an artist.
This comic is a little talky at points but there’s a lot going on so it makes sense in a first issue to have to get all the ‘splaining out of the way to make room for more killing in later installments. This is a pretty good issue…and YOU, yes you, should check it out. Does anyone else want to see a PUNISHER VS CROSSED comic? Both of these stories kind of take place in same sort of world, both have Ennis somewhat attached to them, both are gory as hell…think about it, all the people that hate CROSSED would get to see the Punisher brutally exterminate the those twisted a-holes…I’m just saying it’d be cool…


Writer: Jai Nitz Art: Nigel Raynor Publisher: Dynamite Entertainment Reviewer: Ambush Bug

All I know of GREEN HORNET is from his crossover with Adam West’s BATMAN series I saw in reruns. I know Bruce Lee played Kato in that and a series that followed that appearance. I know Seth Rogan is playing GREEN HORNET in an upcoming movie. I also have a notion that the hero of GREEN HORNET was always Kato, tackling the tough work while the Green Hornet himself stood around and counted his money and looked cool, but I’m not sure. But that’s about it. The thing is, this miniseries by writer Jai (EL DIABLO) Nitz does a good job of clueing me in to what this Green Hornet guy is all about.
Issue two focuses mainly on Kato, with the diminutive fighter taking on four toughs while Green Hornet sits back and eats some popcorn. This dynamic between the two is played somewhat for comedic effect here, but Green Hornet is given enough to do here to not make the guy look like an @$$ by having him take out the big bad with his gas gun. The interaction between the two is fun and full of potential with Kato playing the unsung hero and Green Hornet getting all of the good press.
The bulk of this issue focuses on Kato’s origin. Nitz has reimagined Kato for the modern age, which may irk some die hard fans, but for this new reader, the decision to make Kato more like a grown up Data from THE GOONIES was both an inventive and entertaining one. Nitz justifies Kato’s innate skill at fighting not through kung fu training, but by having Kato studying everything from kung fu movies to video games. I especially liked the way Kato’s mentor instructs his young pupil by learning the lessons from the foes Segal, Chan, Van Damme, and other action heroes face in movies rather than from the heroes themselves. It makes it more interesting that Kato learned from the folks who are willing to cheat to survive. In the end, Kato’s fighting style is presented in a logical manner given the invention-oriented aspect of the character.
The art by Nigel Raynor is also quite good. Raynor has a fluid style that makes the fight scenes seem vibrant and not posed and stiff. His faces are somewhat cartoonish, but not so much that it becomes a distraction. Raynor’s panels are reminiscent of Joe Madura or Todd Nauck, two very fine artists to be compared to.
GREEN HORNET: PARALLEL LIVES is a fun comic. Nitz gives this book a light tone that achieves that balance between being entertaining enough for adults, but without being overly violent or crude, so kids could enjoy it as well. Reading this book makes me want to check out more GREEN HORNET books and maybe even search out the old TV series. It’s a smart and creative modernization of a property full of potential.
Ambush Bug is Mark L. Miller, original @$$Hole / wordslinger / reviewer / co-editor of AICN Comics for over nine years. Check out his ComicSpace page for his entries in the MUSCLES & FIGHTS VOL.3 & MUSCLES & FRIGHTS VOL.1 anthologies. Bug was interviewed here & here (about AICN Comics) & here & here (on VINCENT PRICE PRESENTS: THE TINGLER #1-2). Bug’s latest comic is VINCENT PRICE PRESENTS #21: WITCHFINDER GENERAL (available in June’s Previews Order # JUN10 0825) on sale in late August. Bug was also interviewed here & here about his upcoming original vampire miniseries NANNY & HANK (available in June's Previews Order #JUN10 0824) due out in late August. Bug also has a 10 pg story in Zenescope’s upcoming WONDERLAND ANNUAL 2010 (in July Previews Order # JUL10 1200). Support a Bug by checking out his comics!


Written by: M.F. Wilson Ilulstrated by: Nathan Fox Colored by: Jeromy Cox Published by: Heavy Metal Reviewed by: superhero

The first thing I have to say about FLUORESCENT BLACK is that it is possibly the most beautifully produced graphic novel so far this year. The book itself is absolutely gorgeous. It’s an oversized, slickly produced volume whose beautiful cover is only outmatched by the fantastic coloring and illustration of its interiors. The edition that I purchased was apparently a limited edition only available at this year’s San Diego and New York Comic-Cons so I can’t speak to what will be available for the mass populace but if you can get your hands on one of the limited editions of this book I would say do so because you’re not going to find a better looking book than this anytime soon.
From what I understand FLUORESCENT BLACK is a story that’s been running through HEAVY METAL magazine in segments for the past several years. If so, then this story alone could give me a solid reason to subscribe to HEAVY METAL. If this is the quality of art and story that the producers of HM are putting out then they could possibly be publishing some of the best comic stuff I’ve seen in years.
FLUORESCENT BLACK tells the story of Singapore in the future. It’s a world that has been segregated into both the genetically pure and unpure and a world where corporate interests judge who will be spliced into what segment of society. It’s a future that I’d just as soon not see occur but one that seems not so far-fetched in our current economic climate. It’s a hard place to live for some and a heaven on earth for others.
Writer M.F. Fox and illustrator Nathan Fox create a world that pays homage to great sci-fi like “Gattaca” and “Blade Runner” but is horrifyingly and frighteningly its own distinct place. It’s a believable landscape of genetic refugees and the powerful elite who make their lives hell and the awful world they both have to share and fight to exist in. FLUORESCENT BLACK stands along with much of the best of what science fiction has to offer in that its world and all the people that exist in it are realistic and extremely bizarre alterations of our present. At the same time it speaks to a future that seems almost ready to engulf us at any minute and yet remains, so far, just a terrifying nightmare away.
While the story and settings themselves are impressive, what really makes FB work, what makes it stand out among the other graphic novels out there, is the stunning combination of Nathan Fox’s art and Jeromy Cox’s colors. Can I just say, “Holeee s#!t???” When I opened this book at Comic Con this year I instantly knew I had to have it. Not only that but I came back a day later and bought one for a friend. Seriously, this book is a visual masterpiece. Every page is just brimming with energy and color. Every panel is a unique and utterly fantastic experience. Every page of this book should be framed and put up in a museum. The art is that good. I do have to admit, though, that when I first saw the book I thought it was Paul Pope who had illustrated it. Fox’s style seems to be a direct descendant of Pope’s but it’s not so similar that you can’t notice a difference between the two upon closer examination. As a matter of fact, I found the art in FLUORESCENT BLACK to be superior to some of Pope’s work in that it’s in full color. In other ways it lacks the clarity of storytelling that Pope is able to manage. But I’m getting too wrapped up in this comparison here…what I mean to say is that if you are a fan of Paul Pope you will most assuredly be a fan of Nathan Fox’s art. Fox’s art is like a neutron bomb of unbridled brushwork and it will make your eyes explode with joy.
Honestly, anything that I say in this review will not do this book justice. It’s comic art and storytelling at its finest and I implore you to find any way you can to get your hands on this book. Beg, borrow, kill, or steal to find this thing. It’s worth the mayhem you’ll cause to get your hands on it because what’s waiting inside is beyond any kind of crazy you’ll be able to think up yourself.
Discovered as a babe in an abandoned comic book storage box and bitten by a radioactive comic fan when he was a teenager, superhero is actually not-so mild mannered sometime designer & cartoonist, Kristian Horn of Los Angeles, California. He's been an @$$hole for three years. Some of his work can be seen at and check out his blog at


Writer: Andy Diggle Art: Billy Tan (pencils), Victor Olazaba (inks) Publisher: Marvel Comics Reviewer: Humphrey Lee

Another year, another Sad Panda impersonation by the protector of Hell’s Kitchen, Daredevil, only this time complete with his Emo Jammies on. It’s not that I’m not enjoying this mini-event on the overall – any time the “street beat” players of the Marvel Universe get a time to shine I’m a happy camper – but it’s fabricated on the same old plot threads that cycle through every run of Daredevil’s own book. Daredevil is overwhelmed and brooding while his friends plead with him to come back to the light; all the while the Kingpin is scheming, and things are looking to get worse before they get better. Stop me if any of that sounds familiar…
But, thing is, there does seem to be at least some stakes being played for here. In the end I’m positive the status quo will prevail; that’s just how these things work. For now though, Bullseye is reported dead – a major event in its own right – and Daredevil is making a play that affects the biggest playground for the capes and tights crowd in the Marvel U, good old NYC. As I said before, the “Street Level” fanboy in me – the guy who gladly hunted down and paid $300 plus for the Claremont/Byrne IRON FIST run a couple years back – is glad to see some mojo working for all of these characters in their natural element, not shuffled into the background of a team book (with Cage’s new leading man role being an exception) and spouting yiddisms.
I guess I’m just a little wish-washy on this because, like any event, I’m not sure what here is going to stick and what is actually going to come of this. That and this issue was a bit more water-treading than I’d like to think would come out just 28 days after one of Marvel’s most notorious villains supposedly bites it. But at least with the Marvel Cosmic events I know that if something major happens, like the death of Thanos something like a half decade ago and just now reversed will stick for a while. And because I know those events set the stage for that particular part of the universe for a while and that leave threads to work with and change characters on a base level and so on and so forth. I’m not sure what ripples an event like this in this part of the Marvel Universe will put forth, if any.
Basically, on one hand, I fully expect Bullseye to be back and everything to be “normal” by the end of this as the “Matt Murdock as Hand leader” angle gets swept under the rug and this to have been a way to finagle $20 out of those who may care. On the other, I really hope the exact opposite happens. But that’s the breaks when you take a chance on these events. Maybe this will be the ANNIHILATION this section of the universe needs to become more relevant, or maybe this will be like, well, what 95% of all events turn out to be. If the next three issues of SHADOWLAND are more like issue one than issue number two here, then we will have ourselves a “winner” though I expect a lot more losing will have to befall these characters to get there.
Humphrey Lee has been an avid comic book reader going on fifteen years now and a contributor to Ain't It Cool comics for quite a few as well. In fact, reading comics is about all he does in his free time and where all the money from his day job wages goes to - funding his comic book habit so he can talk about them to you, our loyal readers (lucky you). He's a bit of a social networking whore, so you can find him all over the Interwebs on sites like Twitter, The MySpaces, Facebookand a Blogger Account where he also mostly talks about comics with his free time because he hasn't the slightest semblance of a life. Sad but true, and he gladly encourages you to add, read, and comment as you will.

NANCY IN HELL #1 (of 4)

Writer: El Torres Art: Juan Jose Ryp & Fran Gamboa Publisher: Image Comics Reviewer: Lyzard

Dante ain’t got nothing on El Torres and Juan Jose Ryp’s hell. After reading this comic, you might straighten up your ways, lest you land in the fiery pit full of demons, braindeads, and hellhounds. There are torture implements straight out of a HELLRAISER movie and no hope of getting out…or is there?
NANCY IN HELL follows Nancy Simmons, who (supposedly) unjustly lands in hell. I say supposedly because according to her she is the “big boobs girl” that survives the 80s horror movie. Problem is I felt that she was drawn and acted like the slut that dies early on in those films, so from the very beginning I’m asking why is Nancy in Hell. In the first page she says that the “bad guy got me instead,” but that does not really answer my question. I’m hoping El Torres will surprises us in the fourth and final issue with the truth of her demise and why she landed in hell and not heaven. Why, you may ask, do I care about Nancy’s life on Earth? Well, it’s hard for me to care about her plight when I think she deserves to be there. That was one of my problems with the comic; characters die without you caring about them. It’s something commonly seen in Hollywood films, where henchman and goons die needlessly, but what Torres does better than Hollywood is have Nancy mourn their deaths or at least notice them.
The first issue sets up the world quite well. A character, named the Philosopher, explains how hell works based on memories, which makes it logical and convenient for, say, a chainsaw to appear when needed. Numerous obstacles are introduced, from the demonic inhabitants of hell to Nancy’s questioning faith.
The writing is full of generic references to 80s horror films and heavy metal videos, bland enough that readers don’t need to know the subject well, but not detailed enough for those that do know the genres to enjoy the shout out. As a horror fan I like all of the scream queen clichés, but feel that they come in and out randomly. As mentioned earlier, our character of Nancy does not seem like the innocent, virginal heroine of an 80s slasher flick, so to have her following these rules seems a bit out of character.
As for Ryp’s artwork, you can get an idea of it from its wrap around cover. For me, it’s over drawn. I can handle the gruesomeness, but there just seems to be too much going on making it hard to know what to concentrate on. Even the cover is so active that the Image logo is hidden. Sure, it’s also misogynistic with plenty of female crotch shots, but this is Hell after all so I can let it go.
Issue One ends with a cliffhanger, of course, along with a break in the 4th wall, something I’d expect from a film not a comic book. Overall, I’m interested to see how, or if, Nancy does escape from hell, along with whether or not she deserves to be there.
Oh, and I have to point it out, because I am an English minor: don’t know if I should blame the letterer or editor, but misspelling stupid makes you, well, stupid.


Writer: Stan Lee & Joe Quesada Art: Joe Quesada & Paolo Manuel Rivera, Marcos Martin, Danny Miki Publisher: Marvel Comics Reviewer: Henry Higgins is My Homeboy

See the first sentence. That essentially sums up this issue. Three words, that's all I need to explain this issue. God fucking damnit. That's it. It's that bad. Oh, you want more? Fine. Just a heads up, I'm doing this one like I did last one, more summary then review. Sorry, but I need to vent.
Picking up where last issue left off, Peter continues telling the story of how he and MJ didn't marry. The art here isn't good, but it's better then some pages from last week. Peter resumes the story, with Spider-Man arriving too late to the wedding. Well, it can't have the demonic satan pigeon in it, so it won't be as bad as last week. Peter listens in on everyone compiling about him outside the church.
"Y'now what? I take it back. He's NOT a loser, He's a BLOW HOLE!"
Sorry, spoke too soon. It can be as bad as last week.
Peter tries calling MJ, and when she doesn't pick up, he speeds off to her flat. She has since moved everything to Peter's place. So, he thinks logically, figures she might have gone to their home, and speeds off to meet he-no, wait, sorry again. My apologies. See, that's what an intelligent person would have done. No, Peter spends the entire day swinging around New York, yelling her name. Because he's thick. I feel like opening up MARVEL ADVENTURES SPIDER-MAN.
"Why does everyone keep forgetting that I'm really smart?"
Spidey, exhausted, finally heads home and sees MJ waiting for him in her dress. Which she's obviously been doing all day. She thinks he bailed on her, but when he takes off his mask, she realizes he was hurt doing his usual Spider-Man duties. MJ asks him to give up being Spider-Man so they can be together, but he sadly refuses. She of course understands his pain, his responsibility, has defended his need to be Spidey in the past, wait, sorry again. She calls him a bastard, tells him to never touch her again, and slams the door on him. I've been drinking a lot more then usual, and it's giving me these delusions of a not shit comic. Another present day moment, where the best art from this part of the story appears, in the form of three panels of the same position.
Cut back to the past, where MJ is being convinced to give Peter another chance by Aunt Anna.
I'll go ahead and repeat that. The woman who in the past has angrily ripped Peter to shreds for possibly cheating on MJ, is now saying "we all make mistakes" and "how special he is". Fuck you comic, fuck you so much. Credit has to be given to this page though for the art, again producing a MJ facial reaction that sums up my feelings on the comic. So, MJ goes to talk to Peter who, being Peter Parker, is a complete wreck. MJ explains what she's always wanted with Peter, a child. Which doesn't work with the history or motivation of MJ even before the marriage, but you know what? I'll let it pass. We see her dream child, who is an unholy abomination. I mean, I've heard of a fourhead and a fivehead, yeah. This child is a fourteenandahalfhead. The two agree to stay together, but not marry. It's the only way this'll work. Fine. It's annoying, but I'll deal.
Back to the present, where Peter and MJ agree it all went wrong when Peter unmasked during CIVIL WAR. And Aunt May got shot. And he punched Iron Man out, because even though the man built a small magnetized reactor in a cave, he can't stop a bullet wound. And Doctor Strange, master of the mystic arts and guardian of the entire universe, can't heal a small bullet wound. I refer you to my first sentence again, repeated a few hundred times.
Here's the point where Mephisto shows up, but in this timeline, he doesn't. Peter accepts it's time for Aunt May to go. She's lived a good life, and there's nothing he can do. Aunt May begins to flatline, and Peter and MJ rush to her bedside, but it's too late. Nothing. Peter reacts in grief, and starts giving Aunt May CPR. But nothing seems to--
No, no.
"Oh my god did it."
If Peter and MJ remember him unmasking, does everyone else? No one else remembers this, because of Mephisto, right? Then why did she get shot? She got shot because Peter was targeted. But if no one knows Peter is Spider-Man, he wouldn't be targeted. IT DOESN'T ADD UP. The Timey Wimey ball doesn't work that way, damnit.
And we needed a reminder of one of the stupidest moments in recent comic history. "Why Peter, I've managed in the past to heal a broken bone with gel, build a small reactor out of useless parts, constructed a suit of armor that defies the laws of physics, imprinted my friend’s mind and very soul into a robotic body, and saved countless lives with my scientific endeavors." "Fantastic to hear, Tony. Now see, my aunt has a gun shot wound to the stomach-" "Oh, wow. Ah. See, yeah, I can't do anything about that." "Maybe freeze her in time? Or that robotic body thing you mentioned? Or how about we go get that X-Men kid, the one who heals any wound?" "I'm sorry Peter, there's nothing we can do." "How about, when she flatlines, I give some quick compressions?" "That might just be crazy enough to work!"
Best Moment - MJ summing up my emotions with one panel.
Worst moment - The rest.
Writing 1/5 - I was sorely tempted to give it a 0. Terrible characterization, stupid heroes, off kilter decisions by characters, extra holes in continuity, just, just wrong. On a lot of levels here.
Art 2/5 - The past story has serviceable art, and the Quesada pencils apart from the HILLS HAVE EYES child are better then last weeks. But nothing magnificent, and nothing nearly good enough to make up for the writing.
Overall 1/5 - I'll say it again. God fucking damnit.


Writer: Conor McCreery and Anthony Del Col Art: Andy Belanger Publisher: IDW Publishing Reviewer: Mr. Pasty

When I tell people I’ve never read anything from William Shakespeare (in its entirety) they either think I’m full of shit or that I didn’t graduate high school. Well, I almost didn’t graduate high school, but that had nothing to do with the Bard. So imagine my trepidation when a copy of KILL SHAKESPEARE # 4 was delivered to the Pasty inbox with one of those smiley faces that is editor speak for “Review this or find another nipple to suck on.”
A quick Google search assured me that even a rudimentary knowledge of Shakespeare is enough to enjoy this latest offering from IDW. Out of respect for the material (and the review) I went back and started from issue numero uno since it’s a relatively new property. I can pick up a Hulk book no matter what timeline they’re in and hit the ground running but not only am I new to Shakespeare, I’m new to the movement to kill him as well. I’m not quite sure how theses Googlites define “rudimentary,” but I went from witty reviewer to Opie from the Pawtucket Brewery in just three pages. Yes, KILL SHAKESPEARE made me feel dumb(er).
My biggest fear in committing to this series was that I would be wading through shallow panels filled with murky Shakespeak about this family screwing around with that family and oh yonder this and pig latin that, etc. Fortunately writers Conor McCreery and Anthony Del Col aren’t trying to prove how adept they are at aping the legendary playwright. Instead, they capture the tone of his work and taxidermy his themes around the mold of a fairly entertaining story. SO WISE SO YOUNG DO LIVE LONG is without a doubt the best issue to date and having started from the beginning and powered through all four issues at once I can see the creative team really begin to settle down, especially Andy Belanger. Aside from a more cohesive feel to the layouts, I think he’s starting to enjoy himself because there’s a bit of flair evident here and it elevates the finished product in issue #4, due largely in part to the heavy amount of action featured here.
McCreery and Del Col continue to walk the dialogue tightrope and not only have they kept their balance, they’ve busted out the unicycle. Dialect is faithful to the source material but trimmed down enough so that it compliments the dialogue when it could have very easily become a distraction to it. The bottom line is that KILL SHAKESPEARE finds its mark not because it succeeds on so many creative levels (it does), but because it understands that first and foremost it is a comic book, and comic books don’t work if they can’t stay true to themselves. I don’t want to have to hit the dictionary every two panels and I sure as heck don’t care about fourteen pages of gaudy pin-ups. What I do want is writers who know how to dream and artists who brush with their souls. To that end, KILL SHAKESPEARE is a smashing success.
By my own admission, I probably could have enjoyed this book more if I understood some of the history of the characters, who do that LAST ACTION HERO thing and pop up as the writers see fit, but KILL SHAKESPEARE did something that no English teacher ever could: It made me want to read the works of William Shakespeare.
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Writer: Brian Michael Bendis Art: Alan Davis & Mark Farmer Publisher: Marvel Comics Reviewer: JNCNDAC in the guise of Vague Man & channeling The Quibbler

AVENGERS PRIME, where do I begin? Ok, let’s start with this: my lovely wife, who I have conveniently converted to comics, told me that if we were superheroes I would be Vague Man & she would be The Quibbler. I think those obvious alter egos speak for themselves, so I think I need to evoke our alter egos and review said title from two points of view, thus I give you AVENGERS PRIME, via the Quibbler & Vague Man. First up The Quibbler.
Y'know My husband is comic book crazy for the triune of triumph, the trinity of tragedy, the big boys of brouhaha, yes I am speaking of the BIG THREE: Captain America, Iron Man & Thor. He is so gaga for those Avengers that all I have heard the last few months is: Tomorrow is just the yesterday of two days from now, but now is all about what you’re doing tonight. Do you know what that means? I sure don't, but all he has been talking about since that Siege thingy is, ooooo the big three are gonna be in a mini! I can’t wait. Well keep waiting! The first issue was promising but after a great exchange between Steve & Tony, the three big boys get sucked thru some rift in space & end up on, what I assume is a different place(s?) on the nine worlds and this issue, which I know he is sooooo hot for is NOT about the Big Three ironing out their issues but about the three in 3 different places getting back to one another. AND don't even get me started with the continuity thing! The big splash page, nay I say, the main thrust of the next issue, revolves around Thor & an antagonist who is in a completely different role in an adventure that takes place, I assume, immediately after this one! Now I don't want to be a Debbie Downer but for the love of Stan, when do we get to the good stuff? When do Thor & Cap beat the crap out of Tony? Or at least rediscover what they like about Tony or I know at least be in the same stinking panel together for more than 2 pages, because it is y’know a comic about the three of them! The only thing that has merit is the Steve Roger section; we get some insight into how he feels about the whole Wanda thing, & his exchanges with the empathy are enjoyable BUT they last all of 2 pages and just when it gets good we cut back & forth & back & forth between the predicaments of Goldilocks & Shellhead. Thor’s section is somewhat tired; Enchantress, yes she hates Thor! Wow what a reveal! (That’s sarcasm kids) Granted there’s a little bit of exposition we do get regarding the big picture ramifications of what Thor’s putting Asgard on earth mean, but again just when it gets good we cut away again and don’t even get me started on Tony being knocked cold by Trolls or whatever they are! Give me a break, like he is going to be sitting around with his helmet off! Needless to say I was unequivocally underwhelmed!
And now a word from Vague Man…
I just love me some old school AVENGERS. I am talking The Big Three: Iron Man, Captain America & Thor. One of my most treasured comics is AVENGERS #93, “This Beachhead Earth”. Just looking at that firstst page; THAT, my friends, is Earth’s Mightiest of the Mighty. I scored this book at a discount store in Kingston NY on a hot summer day about 6 months after it came out, circa 1972. It had its cover cut off & was in the discount bin. I can almost smell the news print & ink & hear that huge ceiling fan whirring above my head. So when I heard about AVENGERS PRIME, the big three being back together since 2007. And in that issue they were still the 3 Amigos. 5 years later, Tony cloned Thor, ugh!, and was primarily responsible for Captain America’s death. Double Ugh! That is a far cry from the 3 mightiest of the mighty. So my hopes were high that this series would bring the boys back to that bygone era in some adventurous way! Aside from a few moments in issue 1, I am still waiting. What makes it even worse is Alan Davis! His art work is fantastic; if he ain’t channeling Neil Adams I don’t know who is. Knowing he was penciling this tome raised my expectations even higher! And you know what they say: Tomorrow is just the yesterday of two days from now, but now is all about what you’re doing tonight. And all I’m doing is wondering when is something cool gonna happen, I don’t know, maybe tomorrow?


Writer: Jesse Blaze Snyder Art: Tanya Roberts Publisher: BOOM! Studios Reviewer: Ambush Bug

I know a lot of folks will pooh pooh this book because it is geared toward kids, but if you do you’re missing out. Just as the TOY STORY movies are so much more than just kiddie flicks, so is this comic. So before you scroll past, think about how you felt about seeing TOY STORY 1 -3 in the theaters and apply those same warm thoughts towards this comic because this book really does compliment the movie series superbly.
Writer Jesse Blaze Snyder does a fantastic job of “getting” each of the characters in the TOY STORY universe. One can almost hear the voices of the stars who portrayed them in the film as one’s eyes flit past the panels of this issue. Not only does Snyder fully represent these characters, he adds in a whole lot of funny to boot. There are genuinely funny moments that would be real guffaw-inducers in the theater if acted out. There’s an especially funny sequence as each of the toys take part in a Flying: Falling with Style competition where each toy in full character does the exact same thing. The variation of voice and the quality of humor truly impressed me in this sequence. Snyder really flexes his writing muscles here as each character comes alive with perfect representation and hilarity.
I don’t know if the artist on this book is the actual Tanya Roberts or someone who is lucky enough to have the 80’s B-movie beauty’s name, but whoever she is, she is very capable with the pen. Her drawings of the cast of TOY STORY are spot on. She even embellishes a bit to add a bit more emotion to these characters, something that should be a no no, but drawn by Roberts, it’s fine with me.
C’mon, you know you have a soft spot for the films. It’s ok to admit it here. We’re all friends here on AICN. If you liked the movies, you’ll love this comic. It’s the perfect compliment to the films and takes the expansive TOY STORY universe in creative and fun directions. Sure it may be kid oriented, but that doesn’t mean it’s not good. Give this book a look through in the story. I’m sure it’ll incite those same feelings the films did.


Writer: David Lapham Art: Javier Barreno Publisher: Avatar Press Reviewer: KletusCasady

Well…shit…I…uh…I can’t recommend this book.
The reason I can’t recommend this book has nothing to do with the writing or the art because both of those aren’t bad. I feel like if I recommend this book, particularly having just read the contents of this issue, I would soon be getting my Maniac Certification Card in the mail complete with 20 or so mini Ziploc bags to collect severed toes, a reservation to the nearest hospital for the criminally insane and I’d also get my registration form for Maniac of the Year not to mention Mama Kletus would disown me and burn my eyes with scalding Holy Water to cleanse the evil from my aura.
Recommending this book is like recommending CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST or I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE but worse. I do actually have at least two maniac friends that I could show this to and they’d be in to it (Dr. Karate Chop & J-Bizness I’m lookin’ at ya’ll). I know I praised the first CROSSED series by Ennis & Burrows but that is like Disneyland compared to the shit that happens in this issue. I wonder if Lapham and Ennis are having some sort of fucked up gross out contest because if so, Lapham has pushed the line so far with this one that Ennis will need a taxi made out of body parts with a trunk full of horse cocks to catch up to him.
Seriously though…look at the cover. If that image is not something that intrigues or entices you (don’t worry it’s not a bad thing) DO NOT even casually flip through this issue. And man do I feel bad for any comic shop owner that gets one of you whistle blower types who picks this issue up off the shelf and flips out at the content. That shop owner will have one a hell of a time defending their reasons for having this comic accessible to the general public.
All that said, I will continue reading this because Ol’ Kletus is far past saving at this point and you will be to if you read this. BEWARE!


Writer: Jonathan Maberry Art: Scott Eaton, Robert Canpanella, & Andy Lanning Publisher: Marvel Comics Reviewer: Henry Higgins is My Homeboy

Not with a bang, but with an embarrassed yelp.
I don't understand why this miniseries didn't get nearly as much attention as it should have. And that applies to myself as well; I just sort of stopped caring. And looking back, I shouldn't have. DOOMWAR was well written, had good art, an always fun premise (Dr. Doom does what he does every night, try to take over the world). Why did it not send ripples down the spine of fans everywhere? Maybe it was the fact that while other events were changing the status quo, this one didn't seem to effect anyone. Maybe people reacted badly to Deadpool sort of just showing up in the previews, and as much as I love the character he is really getting overplayed. I don't know. I don't know. What I do know is this issue, while mostly an enjoyable event book, isn't fantastic.. It's full of great moments and build up, only for it to sort of...end. Just end. No real resolution, the moment has great speed, then just drops to nothing.
Writing - One of the finest points of this story has been from its writing. Maberry writes the two main players - Black Panther and Doctor Doom - perfectly. Black Panther is a good man and king, pushed to the limits by this conflict. Doom once walked out of hell. I know a lot of people who don't enjoy Doctor Doom, but to me, he's one of the principal villains of the medium. He should not work. He should be an overzealous git in a silly costume. But when the right writer comes along, he suddenly becomes the most intimidating player on the board. This is the right writer. Doom becomes the big bad that Marvel wanted us to think Osborn could be, forcing the heroes down roads they never thought they'd have to go. But where the last five issues he had it down to an art form, here Doom sort of loses his relevance. He goes from the calculating bastard to your standard villain, fighting Black Panther one on one. Panther has a similar change. Most of the story has shown him steadily accepting a grey morality to win, but halfway through, he becomes a paragon and talks about the power of love. It was an out of place moment; it just rips you out of the scene.
The supporting cast remains as good as ever (with most of the cast at least getting one solid moment), but underused. This was alright back when Panther and Doom were such stunning leads, but now, the lack starts to stand out. Well, apart from Shuri. The new Panther is a likeable hard ass, and how you do the Templar template correctly.
The other big complaint comes from the feeling lingering feeling of deus ex machina. The final fight goes on for a couple of pages before Panther uses his back up plan. This wouldn't be nearly as bad if it had been addressed maybe an issue or two ago, and suddenly, the fight ends. Big speech, roll credits. The ending disappoints, which is too bad. The story deserved more.
Art - As usual, the art remains strong. Eaton has been on a great on this arc, with fantastic shots, designs, everything. Doom comes off as the kind of character who could demolish an entire country. There are a few facial reactions that seem ...odd, to be put simply, but the issue keeps it's smooth fight sequences and moments.
Best Moment - Shuri, to keep the fight from becoming a full out war, uses an ally of Wakanda as a battleground.
Worst Moment - The ending. And the big "friendship" speech. I've heard it too many times before.
Writing 3/5 - All the great little moments in the world can't stop the ending from being shit.
Art 4/5 - The usual great fights and designs, but with a few missteps here and there.
Overall 3/5 - This series deserved better, in both attention and an ending. The finale has its moments, but lacks.


By Rei Hiroe Released by Viz Media Reviewer: Scott Green

I roll my eyes every time I catch someone do a tiresome "this should be an HBO mini-series" geek-out. That out of the way... got to say... the exotic, broadly exciting BLACK LAGOON would make for a great HBO series adaptation. What works especially well in this set of volumes' specific BLACK LAGOON story is not dissimilar to what's working in the latest season of TRUE BLOOD. Set in a distinctive location, it's offering a shark tank full of very attractive, very dangerous people, most of whom don't or shouldn't trust each other. Here, it's a criminal Galapagos on a Thai pirate port. The Triad, lead by a cop turned gangster Chow Yun Fat clone and the Russian Afghan vets/exiles turned organized criminals are in an uneasy détente. The loli-goth with the stitched up throat and a chainsaw, the Taiwanese knife specialist and the two gun wielding Chinese American in the black sleeveless and short shorts are managing to not kill each other and sort of work together. Yet, rarely have these inhabitants of a sun drenched sea side community been more ill at ease. And now, whispers and implied threats are brought into the arsenals of this collection of ichy trigger finger sufferers. They're all a little extra on edge because an American special forces unit and a FARC rebel turned guardian of a South American oligarch's family chose their turf to settle some differences. While these folks are generally quick to settle matters with sudden eruptions of violence, facing the prospects of American agencies leaning on their bloody escapades, there's substantially more tension than usual.
BLACK LAGOON's El Baile de la Muerte story commenced in the latter third of volume 6 and finally wraps up in volume 9. It'll be the basis for the third BLACK LAGOON anime series, and since there's more manga in this story than either of the previous 13 episode TV series, the transition to a direct to video series should be interesting. Sunao Katabuchi's anime adaptations were quicker to take BLACK LAGOON's characters and their violent lives seriously than the original manga. There's little room for doubt that Rei Hiroe cooked up BLACK LAGOON because he's a geek for guns and hard women. It wasn't that he ignored the implications of what he depicted, but he seemed more inclined to let his heroine "Two Gun" Revy charge into action without peering too closely at the psychology. It was the anime that added the line in which safetyman turned expatriate smuggling facilitator Rokuro Okajima aka Rock watched Revy jump on a speeding boat guns blazing and wondered to himself, what was broken in her being to allow her to act that heedlessly violent, what allowed him to appreciate the action, and by implication, what allowed the anime view to thrill at the spectacle. Eventually, Fujiyama Gangsta Paradise, the longest pre-Baile story - concerning a field trip/home coming to the streets of Japan, did take a hard look at the thinking of BLACK LAGOON's principle pair. In the couple years before the upcoming third series was announced, the story seemed like it was going to be the final send-off for BLACK LAGOON's anime adaptation, and it was kissing its characters off with an appropriately dark emotional gut shot. It was the first case in which the anime and manga matched thoughtfulness in their approach to the material. Hiroe took a breath with Greenback Jane, (moved to before Fujiyama in the anime) a frantic run and gun battle royale that was too blitzed to allow for much introspection. Then, he dove in again for more.
El Baile de la Muerte is by far BLACK LAGOON's most ambitious story. It's ambitious in terms of length, but also in plotting... it hosts a lot of factions with cross agendas and priorities; and it’s ambitious with its handling of characters; rather than simply mechanisms for moving and firing guns, their values and morality effect events. And, with the huge accumulation of by now well established warriors, the action itself is ambitious.
Hiroe has put together an array of striking characters. He's configured them all in an intriguingly combustible stack. He has encouraged the reader to do the "yeah, let's you and you start fighting, " imagining what might happen if various combinations of characters threw down. In prior ventures, the fireworks from smaller payloads have been solid in the manga and exceptional in the anime. How can this one be anything other than overwhelmingly spectacular?
Hiroe deserves heaps of credit for what he's created with these characters and what he's set up with the situation. In the scheme of manga, BLACK LAGOON still stands out, but criticism crops up fo in comparison to what it could have been. From that perspective, Hiroe's ambition outstrips his ability.
BLACK LAGOON mixes a stew of action influences. Hollywood, Hong Hong movies, video games, crime stories, horror flicks... it goes on and on. El Baile de la Muerte uses the ingredients of geo-politics and intrigue, but it comes out like heroic bloodshed. There's a lot of standing, exchanges of hard looks, and expressing philosophies. It's a hunt, but there's also a good about of people with dangerous intent looking each other in the eyes.
It's the curse of getting what you wish for... Hiroe delivers on establishing motivations for his characters. It's interesting. It's provocative in that it encourages consideration of the perspectives of these people and curiosity about how they'll react to the onrushing danger. Unfortunately, it's pacing is a problem. The Baile story went on for about three years in the monthly anthology SUNDAY GX, and there were complains that it was tiresome. Reading it in collected form isn't so patience trying. Instead, it appears crowded. There are too many people with too much personality. Even series star Revy is shoved into the wall. There's no elbow room, and time in this densely packed space is spent listing to people expound on those world views. Maybe Hiroe's approach to talky action would play better in another medium. Here, it's leaden. El Baile de la Muerte jostles and shoves and mean mugs rather than dances. Even when there's a change of scenery from Thailand to Vietnam, the story feels stuck.
It does occasionally explode into action, but that highlights another issue. Hiroe creates awesome characters. They have tremendously dangerous auras to them. Because it's not something that lends itself to the medium, there aren't many manga creators able to handle gun play well. Hiroe does explosive panels, marked by dramatic poses and storms of speed lines. It's coherent, you can always tell what happens, but, dropping heavy spectacles, it's the outline and not the full blue print. There isn't considered panel to panel logic. Attention to how the positions and moments really connect isn't there. As such, a sense of choreography suffers. Though still exciting, it makes for a better framework than it does dynamic fight scenes. While anime that adapts this should be vigorously fantastic, this only looks a bit impressive.
BLACK LAGOON still has the muscle and bite to maintain its position as a top dog among action manga. Though not an audience alienating misstep, El Baile de la Muerte didn't play to its author's strength. It deserves credit for its ambition; trying to do more with this considerable cast of characters. Unfortunately, the muscle bound effort is a bit duller than its composition suggests it should be. Rei Hiroe is evidently still building here. Hopefully next time when he gets around to stacking something with the i
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  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight Strikes Again a disaster?

    by JBouganim1

    You Serious?

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST


    by fiester

    I don't understand what's going on over there at Marvel when it comes to Spidey--and neither do the people writing the books, apparently. <p> It's pretty much universally accepted that "One More Day" is the worst comic book decision in recent memory, yet they keep circling back around to it instead of just moving on already. <p> Maybe Spider-Man is just a broken and unsustainable concept at this late date. Too much water under the bridge to keep the old MJ/Aunt May shenanigans rolling on and on. Maybe it would be best for Peter to move on to something entirely new. I mean, it's only been 50 years.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight Strikes Again was a disaster

    by fiester

    From the story to the artwork, it was a colossal disappointment and not a worthy follow-up to one of the most influential books in comic history.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:19 a.m. CST

    When Is Batman erth One coming out

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    First time in a long time since i've been excited about a one-shot. Also I can't wait for Miller and Lee to finish allstar Batman & Robin, I goddamned loved the first half

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Wouldn't hold my breath...

    by Prof

    ...for EARTH ONE. Looks like DC is trying to quietly pretend they never announced those books and, instead, incorporating aspects of them into the main titles. For example: the "new" Batman costume unveiled this week looks practically identical to the "Earth One" Batman. And dollars to dog nuts says that JMS is also incorporating a lot of the planned stuff for "Earth One" Superman over the next year in the main title.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight Strikes Again

    by optimous_douche

    Was to Dark Knight Returns that Arthur 2 was to Arthur.<p> Yeah, everyone is there, they just don't give a fuck they're there.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:27 a.m. CST


    by barryallen77

    mightve been an okay jla otherverse story if it had no ties to DKR

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:29 a.m. CST

    i mean...

    by barryallen77

    flash powering the east coast on a treadmill? ray palmer trapped in a petri dish? dick grayson as the foil? kinda good ideas....

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Kill Shakes

    by optimous_douche

    I was a theater major in college and hate the bard on untold levels.<b> Very pretty when sat and read in a quiet room, but entertainment?? Ever see 600 eyes glaze over in front of you...I have...three fucking times.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Agreed Barry DKSA

    by optimous_douche

    It was a passable Elseworlds. And Crisis was a good one as well...<p> If they just didn't try to ride the coat tails of nostalgia for marketing mojo the world would be a better place.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Spiderman comics - You should have QUIT after the Mephisto

    by V'Shael

    storyline. Like every other sane person.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:33 a.m. CST

    @Optimus Douche - The fact that you performed in front

    by V'Shael

    of 300 philistines is not a reflection on whether or not Shakespeare is any good.<br /><br />I think the Exorcist is a great movie, but I wouldn't play it at an old folks home.<br /><br />Know your audience, and perform accordingly.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:37 a.m. CST

    The PULL LIST links

    by Squashua

    Bug - use just "#3" instead of "http://aicn...#3" in the anchor tag. Using the entire URL causes the page to reload, when just using the #3 (or whichever number) simply sends you directly to the section on the page.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:39 a.m. CST


    by Prof


  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:45 a.m. CST

    by MikeTheSpike

    Not that I think this "One Moment in Time" is brilliant, but can we please not have 12-year-olds reviewing Spiderman comics?

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:46 a.m. CST

    That sucks if Earth one is canned

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    I was pretty hyped for it, I was even considering picking up superman earth one and i rarely read superman. I have to busy of a schedule and i'm too impatient to pick up the monthlies, so I loved the idea of getting one book every few months. I wish DC did more of that, the trades are nice but they take foever to make it to soft cover, it would be better just to focus on exclusive graphic novels featuring batman as opposed to trade paperbacks that just collect a series of plot lines

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Prof. Challenger

    by MPJedi2

    Equals "You mean I have to READ a comic!?!" Adams is working in a 70's style, I admit, but frankly I like a comic it takes me more than 10 minutes to read.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Prof Challenger Just Wrote The Best Comic Review Of All Time

    by LaserPants

    Brilliant! And I totally and completely agree. Batman is my favorite mainstream American superhero comic character, and this Odyssey book is TERRIBLE. Epicly Awful. All due respect to Neal Adams' work in the past, and his still considerable illustration skills, but he can't write, and this book is easily as bad, if not worse, than Miller's hacktastic ASSBAR.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:53 a.m. CST


    by LaserPants

    I like to read too. I prefer to read characters doing things that are consistent with the character, though. Like, I don't think Batman would take the time to tell a crook he just beat up how to blow up a car the right way next time. I mean, really now.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:54 a.m. CST

    I love READING comics...

    by Prof

    ...a well-written comic.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST

    It's like Adams found oput that fact about hydrogen

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    and he just had to pass it on, so he wrote it into the story

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 10 a.m. CST

    I liked Doomwar for the most part too

    by kungfuhustler84

    but it really fell apart at the ending for me. What was up w/ that scene where T'challa is looking at all the computer screens of all his "friends" saying they can't help him? Most of them show up at the end anyway. and shadow physics? Shut the fuck up. It just reminded me of how absurd the Marvel Universe is, and how inconsequential most of these stories really are. I won't let the ending ruin the journey for me, but that was an incredibly weak finale.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 10:01 a.m. CST

    I'm definitelty going to pick up Odyssey now

    by Righteous Brother

    for the amusement value alone. I think some comic creators just lose it eventually, I'm looking at you Frank Miller and Chris Claremont. Did anyone ever pick up that JLA comic by Claremont and Byrne a few years back, the villain was a camp vampire name Crucifer! Who actually guest reviewed the comics here once.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Spent most of last week reading back issues

    by kungfuhustler84

    after nothing last week really did much for me, except maybe Hellboy. But Hellboy's always great.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST


    by Prof

    ...actually hosted our @$$ie Awards that year! :D

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Henry Higgins is My Homeboy

    by The Penultimate Gunslinger

    I hate to be mean, but I really, really don't like this guy's reviews. Badly-written, incomprehensible rubbish. Makes me nostalgic for The Kid.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST


    by SutterCane

    Regarding the review of ASM: "If Peter and MJ remember him unmasking, does everyone else? No one else remembers this, because of Mephisto, right? Then why did she get shot? She got shot because Peter was targeted. But if no one knows Peter is Spider-Man, he wouldn't be targeted. IT DOESN'T ADD UP. The Timey Wimey ball doesn't work that way, damnit." There's plenty of elements to complain about in O.M.I.T. (the sight of Spidey swinging through the city screaming MJ's name is just goofy) but I believe that it's only after May's recovery that Peter does whatever he does to make the world forget that he's Spider-Man. That means the unmasking did happen and that Aunt May would've been targeted. It's only afterwards that knowledge of Peter's I.D. was wiped from memory. And Mephisto likely wouldn't have been involved in creating this "psychic blind spot" as it wasn't part of his deal. I'm guessing Dr. Strange is the man responsible. I won't defend O.M.I.T. as being a great story - honestly, it gives me a headache and I'm ready for the book to move on from addressing this retcon - but in this case this specific criticism isn't quite warranted.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 10:20 a.m. CST

    I thumbed through Nancy In Hell at the store...

    by rev_skarekroe

    ...because I thought maybe it was about Nancy Spungen. But it was like a long lost Chaos Comics book from the '90s. Crotch shot! Lesbian demons! Crotch shot!

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Batman Odyssey is a painful read.

    by BooBoosDaddy

    I agree with the reviewer. I am buying it purely for the Adams art, and the upcoming Michael Golden issue (MG told me at Comic Con that Adams asked him to do an issue, but Golden is still on the fence about it). There's a line in the book that doesn't make sense, too. I mean, amongst the rest of the out of character lines. Talky Bruce says that he has this bulletproof costume with blood packets in it that he wears "when he's expecting ballistics." Um, shouldn't he ALWAYS be expecting ballistics? I mean, what if he was wearing standard jammies, and someone whipped out a gun? Because criminals don't normally have guns. Would Batman be like, "Oh shit. I left my bulletproof suit at the cave. I...I wasn't expecting bullets when I decided to fight crime on the city streets!" Fucking piss poor writing, Neal.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 10:47 a.m. CST

    And if you're interested in Neal Adams...

    by rev_skarekroe

    ...and his current way of thinking, I highly recommend tracking down a copy of Following Cerebus #9, which is essentially Dave Sim spending an entire day interviewing Adams. It's pretty clear that Adams is the kind of guy who could spend hours yakking about the inflammatory properties of oxygen.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST


    by Squashua

    ... my dong.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 10:52 a.m. CST


    by Joenathan

    Seriously? Don't fucking lie to me about the Boys, because if I go pick it up and its still the lame-ass idiot crap that's ever only been saved from being the worst thing ever because of the garbage that is crossed... there will be hell to pay...

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Optimus Part Deux

    by Joenathan

    I mean it... ONE cookie joke... ONE! And that's it.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 10:55 a.m. CST


    by Joenathan

    I haven't started it yet, but it sounds like it's pretty average. Is that the consensus? I'm not a big Diggle fan, so if this is nothing special, I may jump ship.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST

    I can't believe...

    by Joenathan

    Not only did we get an pparent Dark Knight Strikes Again fan, but an All Star Batman and Robin fan as well... Wow... I guess it's only a matter of time before a Birds of Prey TV show fan wanders in here...

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 10:58 a.m. CST


    by Joenathan

    That Avengers Prime review was unreadable and I'm glad somebody else brought up the fact that Mayberry's Punisher/zombie thing is nothing but a rehash of six different books... WTF

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 11:07 a.m. CST

    The Boys is almost over

    by v1cious

    It said in the recent solicits that Believe is setting things up for the final arc.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 11:17 a.m. CST

    I was a fan of the Birds of Prey TV series...

    by Prof

    ...well...I was a fan of that chick play Oracle...and especially the flashback scenes of her in the Batgirl outfit....mmmmm...excuse me a few minutes...

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Osborne, not Doom as the MU Big Bad

    by OutsideChance

    That was a big problem for me too.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Rex Carsalot

    by The Penultimate Gunslinger

    Amen to that. I know this is AICN, but there needs to be some sort of quality control on some of these so-called reviews. I dunno if there's just a lot of new reviewers or what, but things here have been going downhill fast.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST


    by Prof

    Nobody's holding a gun to your head and making you read AICN Comics. If gonzo-style writing is not your thing...there are plenty of other places to go for your standard review fix. If you come here, you are looking for something different in terms of reviews and that's why no place else in the industry gets the hits that AICN Comics gets. ,,/,,

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Shadowland #2

    by SteadyUP

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Prof, Most Interesting Review I've Seen Here

    by Buzz Maverik

    You all know me. You know what I think about comics. You know what I think about reviews of comics. But THIS is something fun and interesting!

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Here here prof!

    by kungfuhustler84

    Cookie cutter comic reviews are a dime a dozen. Reading the a$$holes' thoughts every week can be refreshing.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 12:20 p.m. CST

    High praise, Buzz...

    by Prof

    ...I thank you sincerely. I thought it best to let Adams' work speak for itself.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 12:22 p.m. CST

    DKSA Was Frank's Middle Finger...

    by Buzz Maverik all of us who made him rich. Yeah, I'd rather see something knew and different. I'd rather see something I wasn't expecting, but it still better work. Opinions, yeah, but mine is DKSA didn't work so the prima donna contempt for the fans can easily be flung 80% back on Frank and 20% back on no-testicle DC editorial at the time for not saying, "Uh, Frank, about this ... uh, shit..."

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Knew & Different

    by Buzz Maverik

    See, this is why you can't get too full of yourself here! Because we don't have an edit feature.<p>"Yeah, this Buzz Mavdick clown rags on Frank but he wants to see something KNEW and different. Who knew?"

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Hey Prof..?

    by Thalya

    Why'dya use the first page twice in your review, huh huh?

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Spider-Man is edited by an IDIOT

    by jericho1368

    Seriously. Stephen Wacker spends all day posting on Comic Book and he has got to be the dumbest F***** on the planet. He posts obsessively with the moderators, fights and argues with readers and has got to be the nastiest, most unprofessional editor in the entire history of comics. Here is a sample of the genius of Stephen Wacker: "Immortal people can stil be killed particularly when magic is involved." No joke. The thread is right here: So, not only is he an oxymoron (an immortal person can be killed -- but its magic) but the dumb @$$ can't spell either. Is it any wonder why Spider-Man comics stink worse than raw sewage in a rotten egg omelette. Is it any wonder why Spider-Man sucks? Spider-Man needs One Moment in Time to flush Quesada and Wacker down the toilet.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 12:53 p.m. CST


    by Prof dear. That is just me, once again, letting Adams' work speak for itself. T'was not I that used the exact same art for 2 pages....that was Adams himself who did that. he added blood in the coloring stage to the costume. Oh...and changed the word balloons. But wait...someone else did the colors and the like Adams thought he was clever. I felt gypped.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 12:54 p.m. CST

    The Genius of Stephen Wacker

    by jericho1368

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Neal Adams is HOMER compared to Joe Quesada

    by jericho1368

    Neal Adams Odyssey looks like Homer's The Illiad compared to Joe Quesada's OMIT.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 1:08 p.m. CST

    by MikeTheSpike

    Jesus Jericho, chill the fuck out.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST

    by jericho1368

    Jesus MikeTheSpike, you post here more than I do.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Henry Higgins, Learn How to Write

    by Jack Shepherd

    Use `than' when making a comparative statement, not `then.' Reading your review was the equivalent of seeing/hearing an interview in which the interviewee says "you know" or "know what I'm sayin'?" at the end of every sentence: I zeroed in on every incorrect `then' and it drove me INSANE.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST

    I've given up on Batman and Spidey

    by davidwebb their current state. I honestly don't think the writers/editors know what they're doing with these characters. Though the same is arguable for almost every property at both Marvel and DC. At least I've got 40+ years of back issues to get through. That and Hellblazer.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST

    It's fun watching the @assholes destroy Marvel comics

    by Star Hump

    in their reviews. Now, Marvel Comics has been publishing a river of garbage since 1985, and when Quesada took over, its output descended to new levels of incompetent dross. Those hack motherfuckers at Marvel couldn't produce a good superhero comic if you put guns to their heads. Well, not to worry. Marvel Comics will die someday. Perhaps not in our lifetimes, but hopefully not long after we fade away. The sooner the better, too. Marvel gives comics a bad name.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Not Fucking w/ You Joen

    by optimous_douche

    But there is still puerile shit abound, don't let me fool you otherwise.<p> But there's also more to it than that and it can all be found in the quiet moments outside the insanity.<p> Dare I say the story becomes almost tragically heroic when viewing Wee Hughie.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 1:52 p.m. CST


    by Joenathan

    We shall see...

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 1:53 p.m. CST


    by Joenathan

    Has anyon else been reading Millar's Ultimate Avengers? It's crazy. I love the team, and he's actually made a logical use of the Punisher.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 1:59 p.m. CST

    No way...

    by Prof can be better than when Punisher headed to Riverdale and met Archie and Jughead. *Simpson's Comic Book Guy Voice* "Worst cross-over EVER!"

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Punisher vs. Archie was the worst bet crossover ever

    by rev_skarekroe

    Or the best worst. It was a brilliant idea, either way.<p>I'm digging Ultimate Avengers, too. Millar's way better when he's doing stuff like this than when he's writing teenagers getting badly beaten or literally giving the finger to his fans.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Shadowlands, Odyssey and the Rest.

    by Homer Sexual

    I knew Shadowlands 2 would be a big letdown after the awesomeness of #1. But what really bugs me is the whole "DD has gone too far, he killed Bullseye!" <p> I know this "no killing" thing comes up a lot in comics, no matter how unrealistic for a character such as Daredevil. What really, really bugs me is that the other characters, including Luke Cage and Shang Chi, are like "you've really crossed the line now, killing Bullseye." That was soo lame! <p> First, because it's the old Batman debate: Is Batman responsible for all the people Joker keeps killing because he won't kill Joker? <p> Worst: Several of these people are/have been on a team with Wolverine. Who kills people. All the time. How come they're fine with Wolverine killing people, but when Daredevil "kills" (God,how I wish he were really dead) Bullseye, they all get self-righteous on him. That really bugs. <p> Why did hairy Bruce Wayne look so gay. He'd be way gayer if he shaved. Apart from that, I looooved that review, it made the whole column this week. so clever, so well done. Is all that dialogue actually real? No Way! Well, that book was clearly terrible so I avoided it. <p> The rest? Not comics I am at all interested in. Oh well. <p> P.S. Does anyone else read Jonah Hex? If so, do you find that there is an alleged damsel in distress who turns out to be eeeeevil in Every. Single. Issue? Thinking time to drop Jonah Hex.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 2:31 p.m. CST

    I'll revise to identify Bruce as...

    by Prof

    ...hairy gay bear love goddess. How's dat?

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST

    DKSA is a good book excluding

    by Monolith_Jones

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST

    I read Ultimate Avengers 2

    by Homer Sexual

    I kind of liked it, I liked the cast, but the end was kinda anti-climactic, and I knew/expected that to happen. What I loved was the two Ghost Riders fighting. <p> Why is Red Wasp listed? She doesn't even appear in the story. Black Widow's main appearance is to somehow have a gun pointed at GR's head but waste a bunch of time yakking so she never gets the shot off. Tyrone the Black Hulk rides GR's bike...which is cool but not that relevant. <p> I did like it, but there wasn't much substance to it. Not much at all.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 2:36 p.m. CST

    DKSA is a good book

    by Monolith_Jones

    Excluding the Dick Grayson stuff. That was a terrible idea. And can we please put this idea that Miller has no editorial restraints to rest? It's simply not true.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 2:46 p.m. CST

    The "Dick Grayson" stuff...

    by Prof

    ...can not be removed from DKSA. Take one turd out of the toilet...and you've still got a steaming pile. Just a little less of it. But that's ok. Even comics need their version of plumbers and proctologists.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Ok fine,

    by Joenathan

    then he has shit editors who do a terrible job... better?

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Quality Control

    by TheComedian77

    I have to agree about these reviews. By the end of the 'review' on Kill Shakespeare I still have NO IDEA what the book is about!!! A general, eensy weensy plot description would be nice, no? Perhaps Mr.Patsy thinks we all know, or that I should simply google the title? But if that's the case, what do I need his overlong review for anyway?

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Ok. Let's talk reviewing philosophy...

    by Prof

    ...Yes. It's true. The general rule is that somewhere in the review should be something that speaks to the "plot" itself. However...there are times when the plot itself is irrelevant. And especially given the fact that most reviews here are done a week or more out from the release date...many of our reviews are written with the understanding that the basic plot is pretty well-known by the comic audience. So...depending upon the point of the review...there may be no need for much, or any, plot review and speak instead to the parts everyone really cares about. That being said...if it's a smaller press comic, something that delivers a brief encapsulation would be appreciated, especially since quite often this is the first time anybody may become aware of the comic. But, that's just my philosophy when approaching a review.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST

    For some reason the Ultimate Avengers recap page...

    by rev_skarekroe

    ...has the lineup from the first arc, with Red Wasp and Nerd Hulk, instead of the lineup for this one with Punisher and black Hulk. I don't get it either.<p>Hope we get an explanation on The Spider in the new arc.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 3:10 p.m. CST the case of BATMAN: ODYSSEY?

    by Prof

    I couldn't identify a coherent plot. :)

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Ultimate Avengers

    by Joenathan

    The Punisher's outfit has kid of grown on me. I like War Machine's design alot.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Adams just keeps getting wackier in his old age...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview happens. Look at Miller. I'm surprised Neal didn't include a Batman-narrated lecture of that kee-razy "inflatable planet Earth" theory he's been pushing for the past 25-30 years. Still a good, but somewhat dated-looking artist though. But, most amateur artists start out by drawing eyes way too large, then, as they gain experience, facial features become more realistic. Adams seems to have reversed this process... or maybe it's just a bad inker? Hilarious review there, btw.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 3:54 p.m. CST

    New @sshole writers...

    by Doctor Manhattan

    Where did you find these clowns? The reviews by JNCNDAC are simply unreadable. They are not funny, clever, or have anything to do with the comic. I gave them the benefit of the doubt, but after a few weeks, they are not getting better. HHH is doing ok, but where the hell are the old-timers?

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Ringling Bros Circus of @$$holes...

    by Prof our farm team.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST

    I Liked Pasty's KILL SHAKESPEARE Review

    by Buzz Maverik

    You want the plot, read the comic. We know what this guy thought about it and why. What? You expect him to read it for you?

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Dug That AVENGERS PRIME Cover

    by Buzz Maverik

    Nice to see a cover that isn't just the main character(s) standing still, posing for a poster. Somebody must have remembered that comics are a still enough medium and that a sense of movement and action can be provided.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 4:35 p.m. CST

    They Said I Could Only Quit The @$$holes...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...if I found a replacement for myself. It was absurdly easy. I just bought a vial of crack, found a crackhead and said he could only smoke it if he read and reviewed a comic book every week. Bonus points for guessing which of the current @$$holes it was.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Prof I'm not trying to change your mind on DKSA

    by Monolith_Jones

    When it first came out I hated it. I still hate parts of it. The first issue has some of the worst coloring, intentional or not. But for some reason I kept feeling the need to read it, or just plain look at it. <p> So now I "get it" and I like a good 75 % of it. I really dig the pop colors and simplified art and I think it looks great in the Absolute. <p> What it comes down to is that I think people look at Miller still as a superhero comics creator, but at this point he's more an indy guy.Truthfully his sensibilities always have been. There's many cool things in DKSA, and I feel if it wasn't MILLER, people would call the guy who created it a crazed genius.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 6:49 p.m. CST

    OF COURSE the good column happens when I have to work!

    by gooseud

    No one is going to read this, but I'll give it a shot: 1) Kill Shakespeare was an interesting idea, but I hated the art. It should be a dark, grimy, mysterious look, not this manga-influenced Saturday Morning Cartoon crap (this same flaw is one of the many problems I have with Incorruptible). The art would be perfect for Flash, but for a dark story like this, it blows, bottom line. 2) My LCS guy, who is as hardcore as hardcore gets, who LOVED the first Crossed, turned pale and just shook his head when discussing the most recent issue. Apparently its literally amongst the most vile things ever published in any medium, and thats not an exaggeration. 3) Can we please stop being surprised that Spider -Man sucks? When was the last time Spider Man was truly awesome, we are talking like top 5 overall series in quality type of awesome? 15 years ago? Ever? Spidey, despite moments of goodness here and there, is over. The character is played. Its the reason writers have to keep delving into increasing outlandish scenarios (Superman decides to randomly not fly, Thomas Wayne is alive, Mephisto screws over Spidey) just to have something to write about. ITS........OVER. 4) The Boys is awesome. Theres no way to sugar coat it, it simply is great. Obviously, this is Ennis, so it could go down the crapper at any moment, and there are occasional clunkers in there (the origin stories by and large sucked), but remember how, in the midst of Preacher, amongst all that gore and perversity, Ennis would hit character moments that would just be perfect? How Jesse, Tulip, and Cass were written so spot-on, you felt like you knew them, literally? No one, NO ONE, writes those character moments like Ennis. You have to sit through 57 different puerile fart jokes to get there, but the payoff is always great. Which brings us to Butcher and Wee Hughie. Wee Hughie, bottom line, is one of the best characters in comics. Hes everything Spidey SHOULD be and USED to be, but has been lost 14 retcons ago. Hughie's stand against Malchemical, and Butcher's ensuing reaction to the result of that confrontation, is one of my favorite comics moments of the year. It so easily could have been overplayed, but Ennis showed such genuine conflict in Butcher....its just a great book, I dont know what else to say.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Oh and......

    by gooseud

    If anything happens to Wee Hughie, which is very possible, Im going to be crushed. Theres only two other times I can say a comic truly made me feel a sense of loss #1, Walking Dead #48, I literally considered dropping that comic after reading that one), #2, when Mr. Hyde destroyed Cap's irreplaceable belongings in the Masters of Evil arc, but if Wee Hughie goes down, that might be time #3.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 6:56 p.m. CST

    One last thing

    by gooseud

    Irredeemable is killin it. I understand why those of you who dropped it did so, but man, that book has been wrecking shop over the past 5 issues or so. The big reveal at the end of last issue was a fantastic "Ohhhh SHIT!" moment, in a good way. Oh, and the Plutonian is truly the biggest douche in comics, what a prick.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Hating Marvel Comics right now...

    by Johnny Ahab

    ...and I'm a longtime Marvel zombie who's suffered through many periods of badness. Spider-Man, which started getting decent again, has taken a nosedive straight into the toilet. And I realize this happens every few years, but I'm just done. Hated O.M.D., but hate O.M.I.T. trying to rationalize O.M.D. even more. HAAAAATED the return of Steve Rogers. LOVED the assassination of Cap and all the sadness & anger that fueled Bucky & Co in Brubaker's run - but Reborn has undone all that. Can't go back and read the run again since it's been undone (Time displacement gun - Jesus Christ.) I like Bucky-Cap in the monthly (but HATED this jammed-down-our-throats crappy Nomad mini.) Hating Iron Man too - Pepper as Iron Mama??? NO NO NO!!! Bailed on the entire X-universe and The Flaccid Four months ago. And had post-Siege crossover fatigue - and the new Avengers titles looked tired. So what's left to buy in the Marvel U? Still tracking the cosmic stuff, which is fun and interesting, and sticking with Daredevil, although I'm getting tired of the "Leader of the Hand" storyline. I guess I should be happy I have more money in my pockets...

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Who in the fuck doesn't like Dark Knight Strikes Again?

    by Tall_Boy66

    That book totally owns. "Aw hell. He caught the head." That is bad comic booking? Are you fucking serious? That rocked so hard! "I'm done talking. Now get out of my cave." It doesn't have as many layers as Dark Knight, true, but it's a way awesome read.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 8:09 p.m. CST

    Crazy Dick Grayson was sweet too

    by Tall_Boy66

    Here's Robin but he's CRAYY-ZAYYY! And He. Caught. The. Head. While screaming "I loved you." I'm supposed to not enjoy that? You're freakin' insane.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 8:10 p.m. CST

    I want to hate on Neal Adams like all the cool kids,

    by Subtitles_Off

    but, there's too much Grant Morrison bullshit going on. I can look at Kevin Smith's and Neal Adams' stuff and chuckle. Stuff it in a file cabinet labeled IGNORE. <P> But you guys all love Dickwad as "Batman," right? So, basically, you're group is wrong on that, so the opposite must be right.<P>Ugh.<P>Batman - after returning from bare-backing dinosaurs, he decides to change his costume, again. Nothing says "Fear Me!," or makes somebody look more like a bat, than &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>PIPING! &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br>The "new" costume looks like Batman's wearing a tin cup over his junk and couch upholstery over the rest of himself.<P> "Um, Master Bruce..."<P> "Yes, Alfred?"<P> "Criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot. You know what will really mess with their heads?"<P> "Rubber muscles?"<P> "No. Seams!"<P> "Brilliant, Al. Sew some up, would ya? Don't tell Dick. Just our little secret."<P> "Right away, sir. And, sir..."<P> "Yeah?"<P> "I thought since you've come back from the past, maybe the yellow oval can come back, too?"<P> "Sure. Whatever. Let's not make a big deal about it, though. Wonder Woman did that and ended up just looking foolish."<P>"Right, sir. And, I must say, welcome back."<P>"Thanks, buddy, but I'm not 'back' back, yet, okay? We've still got a year of my traveling around, playing with the foreigners. franchising, they call it."<P>"Very good, sir. Or, should I say, 'muy bueno'?"<P> "Whatever. But that's not as stupid as my taking my shirt off and breaking the fourth wall, is it?"<P>"Eh. Stupid is relative."<P>"At least I ain't walking across America."<P>"Right? Sweet mother of what defuck!"<P>"Al, we've spoken before about the language."<P>"Oh, sorry, sir."

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST


    by Subtitles_Off

    HA! Been away for a month, but I still haven't lost the ability to typo.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 8:58 p.m. CST

    Oh, and Mephisto wasn't reponsible for the ID erase

    by Tall_Boy66

    The retcon has been retconned. The deal was the marriage for May's life. That's it. Someone else wiped out Peter's id. That reviewer is wrong.

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:05 p.m. CST

    tall boy that is hilarious

    by Monolith_Jones

    As much as I hate it from a plot point of view, that whole scene is really funny. <p> "aw sure you can, bobbin"

  • Aug. 11, 2010, 9:41 p.m. CST


    by kungfuhustler84


  • Aug. 12, 2010, 6:15 a.m. CST

    A few nuts this week

    by Laserhead

    Ahem. DKSA is one of the most awful creations to be shat out the medium since its inception. If you 'get it', it means you 'get' crap.<p>Odyssey is just embarrassing, or should be, for everyone involved: editor, publisher, letterer, etc. Adams' should be mortified, but of course he made this garbage, so he thinks it's aces.<p>If you can't stand the idea of Dick Grayson wearing the Bat-suit for, oh, 20 months or so, then you've missed out on some of the best Bat-stories in decades, and Morrison's overall epic is the best Bat story ever told.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 6:17 a.m. CST

    Secret Warriors

    by Laserhead

    Did I read right that this is cancelled? So wait-- 18 issues of backstory-building and no pay-off? Wait a minute-- has anyone actually SEEN Hickman make all his backstory/foreshadowing issues come together in a rewarding experience? How do we know this isn't all the guy can do-- create mythologies without a dramatic narrative to unify and exploit the ideas?

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 6:56 a.m. CST


    by Monolith_Jones

    If DKSA is the worst comic you've read then I guess you've never read a Kevin Smith comic who somehow.found something else to be terrible at. Or Jeph Loeb. <p> And Grant Morrison? Really? I couldn't get through it. he's wasting his time on Batman, he should be doing his own stuff. <p> Whatever. I'd rather FM try something different and fail than read the continuity masturbation that too many superhero comics have become. Or even worse the 'look! Sex! Ultra violence! We're oh so mature!' crowd.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 7:15 a.m. CST

    Agree on Smith and Loeb, Disagree on Morrison!

    by Laserhead

    Morrison's Batman is definitive. I've gotten through it, and it's fucking great. FM didn't try anything different. There's nothing innovative or different about being awful and undisciplined.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 8:09 a.m. CST

    I can appreciate Morrison's Batman and Robin

    by gooseud

    but I didnt love it. I read the first TPB with Professor Pyg and all that, and I mean, I can appreciate it. I'm not saying it sucks. It just wasnt for me. It had a certain spazzy, undisciplined feel to it that kinda turned me off. I felt like I was watching Morrison slowly fly off the rails as I read it all in one sitting. Thats just me though, I'm sure tons of people have a dissenting opinion, which is cool.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 8:34 a.m. CST

    I still say Morrison's never done better than The Invisibles

    by rev_skarekroe

    If somebody ever asks me "What was the '90s like?" I'm going to hand them a complete collection of The Invisibles.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 9:07 a.m. CST

    laserhead undisciplined isnt really fair

    by Monolith_Jones

    Or accurate. You can say that you don't like the stylistic choices made by Miller but they are deliberate choices. I was surprised myself when seeing the roughs for DKSA,they are more detailed which Miller reduced down to basic shapes for the final product

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Morrison's Batman

    by Laserhead

    Here's why I like it, no need to agree: 1)Bruce is actually a character, and a bad-ass one. He's not a slobbering psycho or fascist-- he's Sherlock Holmes meets James Bond, and much more dimensional than the one note asshole we've been given for so many years. 2)Fantastic new villains. 3)A mega-story that features many, many individual standout moments of drama, but when seen as a whole, it integrates great concepts from the past in a way that deepens Batman's character, without losing what makes him great (Barbathos, for instance, came from a great Peter Milligan three-parter in '89 or '90). 4) I didn't want to like them, didn't expect to like them, but Dick and Damian in Morrison's books has been some first-rate comics, period. 5) Great dialogue, great characterization of supporting players.<p>Think that's it.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST

    By 'undisciplined' I mean--

    by Laserhead

    it took eight months for the final issue of DKSA to come out, and its 'stylistic choices' looked like something drawn on a cocktail napkin by an epileptic that can't hold his booze.<p>Miller has been coasting on fumes since the second Sin City arc. The 'stylistic choices' of 'The Spirit' helped make it a shitty, shitty movie.<p>But beyond the stylistic choices, art-wise, there's the much deeper issue of shallow, terrible writing, an absence of characterization, and a series of obvious, uninspired plot developments.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 10:17 a.m. CST

    See, if I was in a Shakespearean tag-team...

    by stones_throw

    ...I wouldn't feel too confident with Hamlet, Romeo and Juliet and Falstaff on my team. Othello, yes - but Hamlet takes the whole of Shakespeare's longest play to decide whether to kill the guy who murdered his father! Sure, he fought a bunch of pirates and had Rosencrantz and Guildenstern killed, but Macbeth once "unseam'd" a guy from "nave to chops". An agonized soliloquy is no defence. Romeo and Juliet - don't make me laugh! And Falstaff is a notorious coward who played dead rather than fight. What about genuine tough guys like Harry Hotspur, Henry V, Mark Antony or Octavius Caesar? Henry V already has his bad-@$$ catchphrases prepared: "The game's afoot - Follow your spirit, and upon this charge, Cry 'God for Harry, England and St. George!'"; "We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; for he today that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother." Mark Antony's can be adapted: "I come not to praise you, Iago ... but to BURY YOU!" Prospero would be included for his black magic skills, as the Professor X-figure of the team. Caesar, with his natural leadership ability, would take charge on the field. But who wins or loses doesn't really matter: if it's true to the Shakespeare spirit, all the characters will end up dead, tragically prefiguring their own doom.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Morrison's best, 'Invisibles' et al.

    by Laserhead

    I love a lot of The Invisibles-- Entropy in the U.K., the fox-hunting story with the Moon Child, Bloody Hell in America, Time Machine Go... but I also find quite a bit of it tedious, like someone's journal of their fantasy life. You're right-- it IS the 90s, for me too, as much as X-Files or Seinfeld. Even as a creative info-dump, I love it. But I think he's done better in The Filth, Doom Patrol, and Batman and Robin. For me, The Filth is probably his alt-comics masterpiece, and as a single story, it's more satisfying than The Invisibles (again, to me).

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 10:25 a.m. CST

    rev- agreed

    by Monolith_Jones

    That's unfiltered Morrison. Well almost

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Thats actually kind of what I like about Morrison

    by gooseud

    He challenges you. Sometimes its a complete bomb, personally I hated 7 Soldiers. But someone else might really love it, and thats what's cool, its challenging, thought provoking work when it comes to him. No one is ever really wrong with Morrison, which is why I rarely trash the stuff I dont like of his. Whats the point? Someone else might see it on a totally different level and get something totally different out of it. Unless of course we are talking about All Star Supes and Final Crisis. If you dont love the first and hate the second, your wrong, sorry!

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 11:17 a.m. CST

    let me correct myself

    by Monolith_Jones

    As far as long form the Invisibles is pure Morrison. But I agree that The Filth told a simiar story in a better way. The reason why I love the Invisbles is probably why you have problems with it, laser. Its Morrison saying "this is what I'm into" sure it was messy but the ride was fun. <p> short form it would have to be Flex Mentallo. I also really enjoyed the way too short Sebastian O, which had similar themes to the Invisibles and The Filth. <P> laser as far as Miller's Batman, is it just DKSA or everything you dont like? Are you calling his Batman psycho? Just want to be clear before I respectfully disagree Miller's my favorite writer/artist but I'm not blinded by his brilliance. The last essential Sin City book was That Yellow Bastard. The rest have been decent to lame though forgettable. I really like the Martha Washington stuff though. Give Me Libetry is an underrated masterpiece.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST

    I would love to read the scripts for the Invisibles

    by Monolith_Jones

    You there must have been so much the artists couldn't include or just plain didn't unerstand

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST

    was never crazy about Doom Patrole

    by Monolith_Jones

    It always read to me as Morrison trying too hard to be the guy he would eventually become.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Robin catching his own head while crying is crap?

    by Tall_Boy66

    Holy shit, we have way different standards of awesome to crap. Nothing in Morrison's entire Bat run has been as enjoyable as that moment, period.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 12:24 p.m. CST

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  • Aug. 12, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST

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  • Aug. 12, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Is Flex Mentallo ever gonna be reprinted?

    by Laserhead

    Seems like I read something somewhere that the rights disputes had been untangled (?) I remember the first two issues from when I was a kid, but God knows what happened to them.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 12:43 p.m. CST

    I'll do you one better, Tall Boy--

    by Laserhead

    Robin fucking fucks and felches the Joker, while they both weep that Batman won't give them any attention, then Batman shows up and literally blows them to pieces with a Bat-Gatlin Gun. There, I just out-wrote Miller (and Morrison!)

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 2:12 p.m. CST

    We3 and All Star Superman

    by Joenathan

    That's blows Miller out of the water right there. And really, Dark Knight is awesome, but lets be honest here, it's still kind of crappy in all the ways that ALL of Miller's stuff is crappy. Look at what he's done since, it's all the same fake tough guy talk over and over and over again. Look... just take Ennis, right? Take Ennis and all of the usual complaints about Ennis and substitute "semen and butthole jokes" for "over blown machismo". That's what's wrong with Miller. <br><br>I was really with Seven Soldiers until the end, and then... I'm not sure what happened, but that series was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than All Star Batman and Robin. And the Invisibles completely eclipses Sin City, if for no other reason that the Invisibles told different stories instead of the same one again and again. There were better drawn boobs too... <br><br>Bottom line? Morrison over Miller, forever and ever.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Secret Warriors

    by Joenathan

    As far as I've read, they're completing the run. I think it's slated to 30 or 40 something...

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 2:15 p.m. CST

    When was the last time Spider-man was awesome?

    by Joenathan

    Ultimate Spider-man... pretty much every month. And this is from a lifetime Spider-hater... granted, a Bendis-lover too, but this is the book that opened my eyes to both of them. It's consistently the best straight superhero out there.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Goose and the Boys

    by Joenathan

    Point taken on the Jesse, Tulip, and assidy characterization stuff, but here's the thing... <br><br>I don't think I can sit through a billion poop jokes anymore. And here's the other thing... <br><br>It's not like the man offends me (well, sometimes in Crossed, but my hatred for that is not so much that he has offended, but more so because I feel like that is ALL he is trying to do.... offend, and mostly fails. Which is even more stupid... but I digress...) ANYWAY, I'm not offended by what he does in the Boys, I'm just not... surprised... like really, hasn't the gerbil in the butt jokes or the Batman/Robin are gay jokes or the cookie joke... aren't they old yet? I mean, they were old when I was very, very young and yet, it seems like there are entire issues written for that ONE joke and you can just hear him slobbering and chortling as he writes it, like its the funniest, freshest, fucking thing in the world. Which means 1 of 2 things, to me. Either he's a retard or a shut-in, because you can only laugh at the "deeper, deeper" joke so many times... I mean, fuck! Remember when he had a kid being tossed out of an airplane in BOTH books? I realize it's not my sense of humor, but really, even if you do find it funny... Is it funny TWICE in the smae month? Carp, man. It's crap.<br><br>I forget what I was originally ranting about, at this point, so... you know... The Boys and especially Crossed = shit.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 2:24 p.m. CST


    by Joenathan

    "ass-idy"... very Freudian...

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 2:26 p.m. CST


    by Joenathan

    I was gonna say something.... but then I yawned, like so huge... I don't know if that's related, but... well... there you go.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Laserhead is right

    by Joenathan

    about Dark Knight Returns. I didn't expect greatness, but I did expect coherency and a little bit of effort, at least

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    laserhead you just wrote a Kevin Smith comic!

    by Monolith_Jones

    Sad. <p> As for Flex Mentallo I think DC is being cautious by not collecting it in a trade. I don't think there's a judgment either way legally at this point. It's weird because his first appearance is reprinted in one of the Doom Patrol trades. It's really great, Morrison's love letter to the medium. I'd love to have it on my shelf.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Not weird at all...

    by Prof

    ...when you understand distinctions between copyright and trademark law. Very little chance of a trademark infringement if its a one-off appearance buried in a collected works book. But if Flex Mentallo headlines his own book or collection? Claim of trademark infringement becomes plausible, if not, inevitable.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST


    by Monolith_Jones

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 3:02 p.m. CST

    prof its not exactly buried, Flex is on the cover

    by Monolith_Jones

    I get what you're saying though. Could the Charles Atlas people press the issue regarding the Doom Patrol trade?

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 3:19 p.m. CST


    by Prof's like this. DC and Marvel both own characters named "Capt. Marvel". But Marvel owns the trademark on "Capt. Marvel" as a title of a comic book. It's why DC has to publish Capt. Marvel as SHAZAM! Flex Mentallo can appear as a character. He can even show up on the cover. In such an instance, he's just any character. Just like you can throw a dark haired guy in a leopard-skin loin cloth on a cover with no worries from the Burroughs estate. But title the comic book TARZAN and then you're in trouble. Or like the small print at the end of the recent KARATE KID movie that noted acknowledgement to DC Comics for the name "Karate Kid." In other words...$$$$$ exchanged hands so they could use that title simply because DC published that crappy Karate Kid comic in the 70s before the movie franchise existed. Ideally, DC would pay a licensing fee to Charles Atlas and get the Flex Mentallo material back on the market. Outside of that...back issue markets right now are hurting so you can get some really good deals. :)

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    cool thanks.

    by Monolith_Jones

    Grant teased about Flex Mentallo at SDCC <p> "Any chance Flex Mentallo might come back into print? "We hear vague rumors that something may happen," Morrison said. "If anybody asked you guys, we didn't say anything," Sattler added" <p> I hope so.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    But "Flex Mentallo" is an original name-

    by Laserhead

    unlike Tarzan. Charles Atlas' people disputed the character, but they were never calling him 'Charles Atlas', and plainly Mentallo's life wasn't imitative of Atlas', so I don't see the issue either.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Oh, I agree...

    by Prof

    ...I think there's enough original about Flex Mentallo that it would survive a legal challenge. Corporations generally don't look at it that way. The Charles Atlas people have already bogged them down with legal bills, they probably have no interest in re-sparking that battle. That's all. But I think Flex Mentallo survives the originality test much better than...oh...Supreme. Both are parodies of something else, but Mentallo totally went off into somewhere wholly original. a character...had some original concepts in the stories but still was mired inextricably from its own roots as a parody of Superman.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST

    As to Tarzan...

    by Prof

    ...the thing is that names are not copyrightable and now that the first Tarzan novel has lapsed into public domain, the Burroughs estate has to be even more diligent in protecting the trademark or risk diluting the brand. But I still think the Charles Atlas case against Flex Mentallo is protected. It's just DC deciding whether its financially worth it to them to do battle again against those petty little money-grabbers.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST

    My favorite Doom Patrol arc

    by Laserhead

    The secret city beneath the pentagon, the telephone avatar, Flex Mentallo, The Tearoom of Despair, the missing servicemen from the U.S. battleship. That crazy colonel.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 3:56 p.m. CST

    I think maybe the art of DP left me cold

    by Monolith_Jones

    That and I read it after reading many other Morrison books, so he had already matured as a writer.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Yep, the art truly sucked

    by Laserhead

    Richard Case. One of the crappiest artists to ever illustrate, for my money, mostly because I associate his stiff, awkward compositions as marring some of my favorite storytelling. I've wished before that someone at DC would get someone to re-illustrate Morrison's scripts. Some of the guest artists were good. Kelley Jones had a good issue or two.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Rick Leonardi

    by Joenathan

    He was always my least favorite--destroyed the original Genosha storyline in Uncanny way back when. Silvestri shoulders some of the blame for that, of course, for being too lazy to do his job more than three months in a row

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Joenathan I used to HATE Leonardi

    by Monolith_Jones

    Then something clicked and now I enjoy his work.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 5:15 p.m. CST

    and speaking of Silvestri

    by Monolith_Jones

    The Neal Adams review made me think of how some artist's work, like Silvestri and possibly Adams, looks better on the old newsprint paper.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 5:19 p.m. CST

    At this point

    by Joenathan

    the hatred is too set now, it's not even about him anymore, it just comes from a time when Uncanny was the only comic I could get reliablly because it was an old Marvel subscription and I loved Silvestri's art... and then, out of nowhere...poop... I was so pissed.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Haha yeah,

    by Monolith_Jones

    He also did the first Wolverine vs.Sabretooth fight, Maybe Uncanny 211? <p> Then an issue later on after Wolverine was crucified by the Reavers. It was inked by Kent Williams maybe, and it was just bad looking. The inking I mean.

  • Aug. 12, 2010, 7:48 p.m. CST

    Also- Absolute We3 coming

    by Monolith_Jones

    With 10 extra pages. <p> Add to cart.

  • Aug. 13, 2010, 6:33 a.m. CST

    The Earth One books

    by Laserhead

    Superman Earth One is still being solicited on Amazon as a Nov. 2 release, complete with cover art.<p>But, jeez, I didn't even realize that Batman's new costume is identical to Gary Frank's design for his Earth One book with Geoff Johns. Is that book not happening anymore? Shit. I can't think of the last time I was so looking forward to an original, single graphic novel.