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Harry says - THE EXPENDABLES is a testicular masterpiece of manish awesomery!!!
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After watching DEMOLITION MAN, I COME IN PEACE & DIE HARD... I actually feel THE EXPENDABLES is actually the cheery on top of this amazing evening of all things MAN.
Let's face it, that's what this is all about. These are the action icons of our lives - spanning OLD SPICE ads to some of the greatest action films ever made. The three key names missing from the mixture for me, are Kurt Russell & Harrison Ford & Mel Gibson. But honestly - had they been in it... my sack would suddenly have a third ball floating along with my cherished pair.
THE EXPENDABLES is a capper. A party film. A movie to get giddy for. When the first key act of violence takes place moments after it starts and involves a man being blown in half and his top part flying backwards... well, that's INSANE and it's the Sam Fuller of the movie. Sam always was reported to say, "Start with an explosion and build!" - well here, beginning with this kind of crazy awesome... You expect the film to just go nuts immediately - but it doesn't.
In fact the over all structure of the film was a bit more insane than I was expecting. After the opening Pirates showdown, the team returns back to their base of operations in New Orleans... Now I can't even pretend to know what mercenaries are like. I've never met a Merc. I have known a few Navy SEALs in my life, and most of them come across a bit like Jason Statham in this film. But older badass soldiers turned killer for hires? Well, we haven't had a terrible lot of films exploring this group of professionals. In fact, that's probably the very best merc film, THE PROFESSIONALS... it takes place in the Old West and is all about the the trip to the mission, everything going crazy and a brilliant chase at the end. I love THE PROFESSIONALS - and I think in my little monkey brain I was expecting that.
But after the opening fight... we have these scenes that establish a little bit for all the characters. We get to know a bit about everyone - and I loved this. These aren't people like us Film Geeks. They don't speak Tarantino. They're Men that have trouble with expressing emotion. However, they're boiling over with it. It comes in the tales they tell - their histories together. In a way, it reminds me of my group of friends when we talk about my Bachelor Party... only... if there had been blood & guts & horrible scarring moments that haunt a soul. And the man most haunted? Mickey Rourke - which is perfect, because as an actor - that man has so much soul, so much emotional self-castigation that - gosh. I just love the guy.
However, the key to Mickey's scenes is the resonance that the stories have upon Stallone. Stallone gave Mickey the exposition that would explain what he was feeling. Because Mickey is playing the best old friend in Stallone's life. There's no doubt that there aren't very many that have been with him as long as Mickey - and you get the idea that perhaps Mickey might've once led THE EXPENDABLES. Whatever the history may be, the scene specifically reminded me of conversations with my father, when I go to him for advice and I really know what it is I'm going to do, I just want to hear his story about something similar in his life. That's the soul of this scene. The power of a long time best friend. The exchange that Men that have known each other for a very long time can share. Technically it is a human thing, but here Sly nails it and he gives himself the best actor of the film to bounce with. Their scenes are character highlights in a film of character highlights.
Dolph Lundgren has probably been with Sly's Barney the next longest. Lundgren is a force in this movie. He's grown BORED with the routine of killing, so he's taken to making it interesting for himself. Like, shooting a weapon that blows people in half. Like hanging a pirate. Like... well, you'll see. Dolph pulls of some of the best work of his career and that's really a love letter from Stallone. Sly shoots Dolph beautifully. He does this with everyone evenly. It isn't like ROCKY II's addiction to close-ups... it is just Sly has an intuitive sense of how to shoot action and men to just deliver that John Ford sense of WAYNE. Sly also shoots men in action, the way Ford shot horses charging - you see full muscle extension, full speed even if it is slow motion, because you can see the intensity of the movement.
Nowhere is this more evident than in the Steve Austin vs Sly and the Jet Li vs Dolph fights... and I have to say - I'm dying to see if there was more to the Randy Couture vs Steve Austin fight. I wanted to hold on that one longer.
I really have no idea how long that end action sequence was - but there are SO MANY UNBELIEVABLY AWESOME highlights - that I can't even begin to recall them all. At COMIC CON, we showed a sequence of Terry Crews with a fully automatic shotgun with explosive rounds that just sounds like the DOOM OF MEN and the only disappointment that I think some folks might have is with some of the CG gore. Now I loved it because it enabled full on HOLY SHIT speed in terms of real time human disentigration and ginsu mayhem death Iron Chef fashion - and I love that. LOVE IT. It is about the movement. If Stallone has room to improve, it is in getting stronger CG work with what he's doing.
That said, man... just watching some of the insanity - like that Jet Li & Jason Statham two-teaming finishing move on that one poor fuck... if your face isn't an O-Face with the best violence produced Orgasm scream of ecstacy... I'm not real sure that your cock can rock. Check into Viagra, because if you can't hold an erection for 45 minutes straight via non-stop action woah... take the blue pill and you can pretend to be the man for which this film was built.
Me. I'm afraid I was eating fresh Hummus and pita bread during this. Not sure why I went Vegan on this film - I just think that had I actually had RED MEAT or anything crazy manly... like a rack of ribs to eat - or a Turkey Leg... my god. You might as well masturbate too. I was trying to hold back, but I love this movie. I love the concept of it, the build for it, my experiences with the film and finally this crazy fucking night of action upon action upon action upon THE EXPENDABLES.
The most dialed down of all the actors in this was probably Eric Roberts, and if I have a key disappointment it was him and the General. But specifically Eric. He can just go so much further than he did here. I suppose Sly didn't want him to cartoon it, which Eric has done a few times, but I really wanted Eric to just be a character I could hate more. Same with all the bad guys. After JOHN RAMBO, I kinda expected the bad guys to be alot more aggressively evil than what I got from them, but... and this is a big BUT... Everybody in this film, when it comes to ACTION is in Top Form.
Jet Li & Jason Statham do some of their best work. In particular, Jet did really really good with being the short guy that uses his shortness in a self-deprecating manner. I've a friend that would make Jet look like Dolph if he stood next to Jet - and he acts EXACTLY like Jet in this film - except he really is pathetically height challenged, but he has a great attitude about it, though he usually has to use a step-ladder to feel great. Jason's romantic woes are probably going to be something that some folks may pick at, but given the amount of friends I've seen break up with their girls this year... it just seems like a continuation of a life theme.
Now - I know... you want to know what I thought about Bruce, Arnie, Sly.
This is where I have a shameful admittance. I was in the bathroom. I know. You don't have to say it, though many of you will, I was a complete filly - I had to pee. I was bursting and I tried to hold on as long as I could - but I had to go, and when you have to go, sometimes ya gotta go.
But I'm fine with it. I'll be seeing the film again this Tuesday - and I will see the Holy Trinity in their Church of Testosterone.
How much did I love the film?
Well, I came home... sat down and pounded out this review as fast as I could. Not because I'm worried about others writing first, but because I have to write about it. My brain won't settle until I get out of me what this film does.
We've seen a lot of action in theaters recently. The best action of the summer has probably been hung upon the shoulders of INCEPTION - but frankly, while beautifully shot - the action never felt vital to me. Here, I always felt like someone was about to die. I just did. I prefer this action.
Why?
Cuz I believe everything that everybody does can be done by the people doing it. I don't see wire work, I don't see lazy gravity or an overage of Slow-motion. In fact, almost all of it is at full speed. These men are hitting solid surfaces and you'll see them bleed blood in this film as they scrape themselves up.
Also, everyone has their own style of fighting, without it seeming cartoonishly absurd. Watching Dolph and Jet is just a joy, but so is Austin & Sly, Jet & the guy in the tunnel, Statham playing basketball, Terry & his cannon, Couture vs Steve, Sly & the Rapists and then... just... giggle... ya know how in BUTCH CASSIDY & THE SUNDANCE KID and THE WILD BUNCH they have that terrible situation of being holed up in an impossible situation and they have to come out and fight an army? JUST WAIT till you see how THE EXPENDABLES handle that particular scenario. It is the most gratuitously intense action sequences since the trio battle at the end of RETURN OF THE JEDI (Endor, Space Battle and Luke/Vader/Emperor) - but imagine pieces of man meat and marinara flying like Bats from maw of Carlsbad Caverns.
Is it a perfect film? No, this isn't DIE HARD. This is just a great fucking time. This is whooping and hollaring and being excited. This is cheering for action exclamations - and Sly treats those Exclamations like AICN does in our headlines. There's always a bit much, and that's what takes you from just gripping your seat to possibly grabbing the sides of your head, breathing into your hands, smiling ear to ear and then just giggling from how much is actually being done here.
Sly handles action the way George Lucas did the Cantina in the original STAR WARS. Any given bit would be a highlight in the other action films of the summer. In THE EXPENDABLES - it is all about excitedly recalling each others' favorite moments and you can do that for a long time.
This is just what I was in the mood for. Something lighter than JOHN RAMBO and ROCKY BALBOA. Something that harnesses the outrageousness of a COBRA, the mayhem of JOHN RAMBO, the manitude of the first 30 minutes of PREDATOR all with a bit of soul, friendship and fist-pumping that I adore from this type of film.
Go into this as many of you are wanting to... with a desire to just see this cast have fun having fun. That's exactly what you get.
Now it is time to go to sleep. Good morning everyone...
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This is what movies are supposed to be. Nerds are not action heroes. Yeah Scott Pilgrim I'm talking about you. Society has emasculated the Y chromosone. It's time for real men to step up again.
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how badly you want to keep Stallone coming back to this website... He's cool, I get it, but Jesus, this movie is a steaming pile of animal stink. One of those movies where you go in thinking, "Hey, remember how cool those cheesetastic 80's b action flicks like Cobra and American Ninja were?" Then you sit through this movie and remember they were actually garbage and you were ten at the time and didn't care.
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I hate to say it, but you have embarrassed yourself with this review
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You mean you love the movie starring, written by, and directed by you're e-mail buddy? That's a shocker. Next thing you know Harry will be praising every crappy horror movie that he has a cameo in or review on the poster. The Expendables will still be good anyway.
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just sayin
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The question is, which one do I see first?
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You know - if you go back and you look at those 80s movies - and if you were one of the pricks in the bathroom talking about being miserable with your pals as y'all pissed together during DIE HARD, and griping about suffering through these movies - FUCK OFF. Seriously. Why the fuck were you in the theater? This is a love letter to 80s action.
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You are a waste of fucking life and should die as soon as possible. Can't wait to see this fucking movie!!!
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.......you liked it?
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Are actually Kurt Russell, Van Damme, and Norris. The similarities being that they were all in multiple cheesy fun action movies of the time. Not just cool male actors who happen to be in a couple of actiony movies (Lethal Weapon is NOT in the same category as the Stallone / Schwarzenegger action movies).
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Whenever Harry slobbers all over a film, it usually sucks. It's 42 percent at RT.
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See Scott Pilgrim first. Otherwise you will see The Expendables first, watch Scott Pilgrim, and say "gee this movie sucks." Actually, see Expendables first. Then you will finally realize as I said earlier that nerds are not action heroes.
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I don't have high hopes for this. Harry is in BJ mode and it's obvious.
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Aug 07, 2010 10:22:15 AM CDT
I was just at a bachelor party in Atlantic City last week
by sailor rip
and there WERE moments of extreme violence, blood, sex, debauchery, and over all chaos.
Plus I met a 25 year old girl there who drove to my condo last night but she only let me suck on her tits. "Next time. Next time." is what she kept saying when I tried to close the deal. She drove an hour anf a half to come here and that's it? Whatever. Boobies are nice to suck on but it gets old fast. -
Aug 07, 2010 10:24:21 AM CDT
"Despite decent choreography and plenty of mayhem...."
by jehovahs_witness
"...the poor camerawork is so distracting and confounding that it transforms even the most straightforward hand-to-hand combat into a mess of rough edits and 'Greengrass-lite' handicam coverage." -IGN movies That's kind of what I worried about from the trailer.
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"The best action of the summer has probably been hung upon the shoulders of INCEPTION - but frankly, while beautifully shot - the action never felt vital to me."
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I call plant with the glowing review.
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Why's everyone so desperate to hear Harry's Inception review? Surely you've seen it yourself, you know if you like it or not. What difference will Harry's opinion make? You nerds are weird.
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I knew as soon as I saw the headline that it would be an unmitigated gush fest. Love Stallone- and I WILL see this movie because I believe that it will do what it says on the tin, and that's all I'm looking for with it. But I disbelieve ANYTHING said by Harry Knowles. He is a corporate prostitute with zero credibility.
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Joel is right. There's just NO WAY that this film is that good. I don't even think it's a quarter as good as you say. I think it's probably an awful film and you just like it because you have a soft spot for these kinds of films (FINE), but also because you want to make Stallone happy by praising his latest film. The first reason is OK, but the second reason is just corrupt. What you forget is that, most people here (myself NOT included) are going to go see this and know for themselves that this movie is a turd. So, you're not fooling anyone in the long run. It's just that you're getting people to go spend their hard earned money on it. So, maybe in the long run, you ARE fooling some people.
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Robin Hood, a movie I enjoyed Immensely, who give's a flying fuck what the RT score is on a movie?
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That said, where's the DVD column, Harry? Road to Perdition, Breakfast Club, Bull Durham, Escape From New York, Kick Ass, Blood Simple, the Ghost Writer, Kalifornia, A Prophet, Piranha, and James and the Giant Peach all landed on blu ray, and thet's not looking at what hit DVD. How can you skip a week like that?
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Holy fuck people, it's really very simple. You come to the site. You see "EXPENDABLES" in any title. You've already made up your mind that it sucks for WHATEVER fucking reason (other than actually SEEING it, of course), so why even click on the link? Really--you hate '80s action, fine, that's your right--what about the marketing or the cast for this film told you it would be about anything OTHER than '80s action?
Maybe I'm just old, but I cannot believe how many people , here and on other sites, about this film and others just have to spew their bullshit for no apparent valid reason other than the fact that they have an internet connection. I see a link for "Eat,Pray,Love", I'm not even fucking going there, because I've already made my mind up.Why anyone with a life would actually go in there and post "How can you watch this shit, it sucks" is beyond me. So--this is an EXPENDABLES talkback--if you have no interest or you hate Stallone, or you are more into Scott Pilgrim or whatever, fine, just stay the fuck out and stop wasting space with your horseshit. If you are someone who was actually interested in this film, but actually SAW it and was very disappointed or vice versa, then, fine, let's discuss. But if your mind was made up coming in and all you want to do is leave yet another dropping on another talkback,pleaase spare everyone who's actually interested in the film, good , bad or indifferent.
All that said, Harry--ya think , next time, you could leave out some of the overly detailed descriptions of the cooler action sequences so the rest of us can actually be awed by them the theater instead of knowing ahead of time. I mean I know you're all excited and shit, but for fuck's sake, man, I feel like l already "saw" half the film... -
Alot of people are pissed off with Knowles because he promised an Inception review, said it would be along soon but then failed to deliver. It's their way of reminding him.
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I don't care if Harry reviews Inception. My comment was directed at those who do.
Still, on of the biggest movies of the summer, from a great director, three weeks in a row on top of the BO.....this is a movie web site and it's kind of his job.
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or fuck off motherfucker. That in essence is the review. As for Harry's "review" of Inception: ["The best action of the summer has probably been hung upon the shoulders of INCEPTION - but frankly, while beautifully shot - the action never felt vital to me."] FUCK OFF. Seriously. Why the fuck were you in the theater?
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Was there ever a chance in hell Harry was not going to pen a love letter to this flick?
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This movie will be terrible, but certainly not as terrible as this review. Go see Scott Pilgrim instead. I didn't expect much from it, but it's the real deal. I'll pass on some geriatric action stars pretending to be relevant.
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No - not a plant. Just someone that went to the theater to have fun tonight, with a bunch of folks that went to celebrate the release of this movie in the most ridiculous way. I mean, before I left to see the fest of action tonight, I rewatched JOHN RAMBO director's cut with Dad - and the previous night I watched ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK & THE FUGITIVE & MACHINE GUN MCCAIN. I'm in an action state of mind. Oh - and before that I watched INCEPTION, which is clearly a far superior film to THE EXPENDABLES, I just don't think it's fun at all. INCEPTION is a contemplative film, an attentive experience. THE EXPENDABLES will reward those that watch closely. But frankly, this isn't a CRITIC MOVIE - it is a film for those of us that watch every film all these guys have made. I'm pretty sure I've seen them all. I love action films. I do. I can actually describe in excruciatingly loving detail things from even the most obscure of these guys' films. Of course, I am a movie Junkie. I mean, I did come home from an all night movie marathon and put in the Shaw Brothers' BROTHERS FIVE on Blu and I really am digging it.
As for my INCEPTION review and missing DVD COLUMN - I will attend to those when I wake up. I've never felt an urgent rush on discussing INCEPTION - as I feel it is a movie one should experience a multitude of times to just fully experience the depth of the film. -
The Get Carter remake with Stallone was on last night and...what an insult to the original. I love Stallone and Rambo was great but christ...I can't believe after reading the script that Caine even made a cameo in it.
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....not be vital to him????? What the fuck did he want???? Tom Hardy KICKED FUCKING ASS in that movie! There was gunfire, hand to hand combat with people fighting for their lives. Jesus! What a piss poor excuse if there ever was one. Knowles- you have lost your fucking way, brother!!!!
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I've never felt an urgent rush on discussing INCEPTION - as I feel it is a movie one should experience a multitude of times to just fully experience the depth of the film. What???? How many times do you have to see the fucking movie before you decide to discuss it????? How many pieces do you really need to nit pick out before you decide its time to tell the world your point of view??? I'm sorry, but its jusy lazy ass reporting and I dont buy any of it.
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I visit this site every day but it's mostly for the talkbackers.
Harry I know it's hard to remain objective when you have friends in the industry and I don't doubt for a second that you like this movie but the truth comes first in journalism, politics last. -
I've seen some bad ones in my time, but this is right up. Jesus.
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I'm taking a 200 mile roadtrip to see this with my best friend, since we used to go see films like Lethal Weapon 2, Die Hard 2, Total Recall, Robocop 2, Darkman, Predator 2, Marked for Death, Double Impact, Aliens, Tango & Cash and No Holds Fucking Barred together. Can't wait.
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the endless excuses for not making the review. Surprise, the two are not the same thing. I do believe we will get far more of the latter than the former (if ever). It's obvious Harry wants the whole Inception thing to just go away. Now. Because movies are supposed to be fun, fun, fun! Like a steady diet of chocolate-covered cherries. This Summer Inception sure broke the mold. And you know what, far more people will see Inception than Expendables and Scott Pilgram combined. Look at the ratings on IMDB. Something is happening, Mr. Knowles, but you don't know what it is. Nor do you care.
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of yours is pointless even if its your most sincerest,from the moment that Sly and you are close buddies.Not that this matters to me,i am going to watch the movie in the cinema even if it is the worst movie ever made,but dont get annoyed if we dont trust your opinion at least about this movie.(and the movies Del Toro,QT,Rodriguez make.ha)
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Sounds like some of the people here need to take a trip to their local mall. Maybe they can find a sale on "non-bunchable" panties!
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"what a hate filled, bitchy talk back" Stay tuned- its about to get alot worse!!!!
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its a good flick but it is the "coca cola lite" version of the Expendables.A-Team probably lies somewhere between.But i am curious to see how Expendables goes in the BO,since both A-team and Losers were flops.Is there still an audience for the 80s old school action and heroes? we'll find out next thurdsay.
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lIke I said, I didn't even read the fucking thing- not one word of it. I will trust my own judgement and that of others who aren't a corporate stooge.
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Harrt I watched that last week with my father for the first time.Great,great western.
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Easy. Its a dream. And while the action is stunningly and beautifully shot and composed, that is what it feels like. It feels composed. There's something about the no-holds barred holy fuck of what Sly puts together that is more hardwired into my brain.
as for this generational war I'm seeing develop in this talk back... really? I'm crowing as loudly for SCOTT PILGRIM as I am for THE EXPENDABLES. You do know... it isn't a race. There's nothing to be gained by any of us if either of these films goes crazy or dies at the box office.
For the record, I expect SCOTT PILGRIM to be the best film of the summer. Can't believe I haven't seen it yet, but I'm drunk in love with every scrap that i see. And I love how little I know about it still, been avoiding spoilers like that plague. Which is hard, when nearly every friend I have has seen it and gone daffy for it.
EXPENDABLES is a fun fucking time. I refuse to believe that's even debatable. I'm writing this review for folks out there like AB KING. He burns the torch for this film. And the reason I'm so fond of AB is that I'm very much the same as them. For me, for my youth - ROCKY and STAR WARS were side by side as tenants of my childhood. Along with all the other things I was surrounded by. The only film in the line up tonight that was better than THE EXPENDABLES was DIE HARD... and the margin of victory is pretty gargantuan. But that's because that film is one of the top ten action films of all time. Personally I prefer ROAD WARRIOR, PREDATOR, ALIENS, ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD, STAGECOACH... but that's probably just me. -
Yeah, this will be one for the history books.
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....$42m US domestic. I have a feeling that it might overpower that due to the (fading) star power in it. There are a couple of names that might spark interest.
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The 80s are gone. As much as I love nostalgia we all just gotta move on and enjoy the classics on DVD.
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But that meant putting down his hummis sammich?
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What a bunch of crap from some of the talk backers. If Harry liked it, he liked it. HE is the person who created this site and HE is the person who runs it. If you detest him so much, go elsewhere. The rest of us will be that much happier without having to read your whining.
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Just an observation. This has to be the most pointless film to review ever. Because 90% of the people reading this are going to see it. I know I will. I just don't think I'll be taking a box of tissues with me. Which I suspect is why Harry needed to go to the toilet to 'pee'....
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If you can't stand his writing and opinions, if you think he's a "lazy" reporter (looking at you, Sam Jaskcon), then why do you bother coming to this site? Seriously, if you don't like what the head honcho is putting out on HIS site, then go somewhere else, because, frankly, all this pointless bitching is tiresome. It's one thing to be upset because of a missing review on one of the best films of the summer (though beating the point to death is a tad much) or question the whereabouts on Saturday of a column that was scheduled for the previous Tuesday, but it's a whole other thing to bitch about Harry's writing itself and continue coming to Harry's site. Now if you want to complain about the shitastic writing of other writers on the site, go ahead, as Harry decides who gets to write for the site, and sometimes those decisions seem to be more friend-based than quality-based (i.e. a certain reality-loving, Whedon-blowing TV reporter who rarely reports anything other than what he can cut and paste from real journalists reviews). If you want to complain about that kind of hercy-jerky writing, more power to you. If enough people point out said reviewer's shortcomings, perhaps Harry will FINALLY be conviced to put a real writer in charge of the TV section. But complaining about Harry's writing, well, it's his site and therefore a reflection of him. That's what you come here for. As for complaining about the sites design being stuck in 1998, well there's no use complaining about that, as I'm sure if Harry's thinking about site design it's for Famous Monsters. Though AICN COULD use an update reeeal bad.
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expendables is gonna be SHIT.
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Who the hell cares if Harry didn't review it? You guys are guilty of what Harry is doing here. Loving a movie before he saw it, and loving it more after seeing it because it didn't let you down. We get it, you guys have a boner for "Inception", it is a good movie, but some of you are acting like its the most groundbreaking, thought provoking, most original and awesome movie in the history of modern cinema. In my opinion, it's a well done film. But I don't feel a need to revisit it at all. There is simply no need to. Everything is meticulously explained, and the end is executed in a way that in watching it twice I would find myself fast forwarding through all the exposition to get to the action. Which was not really vital. The end sequence in the snow was so James Bond-esque with the shaky cam of a Bourne film and some of you still won't pull Nolan's dick out your mouth. Either way, who cares if he reviews it or not? Most of you already love it and your opinions aren't going to change. Finally making this into a Scott Pilgrim vs Expendables is dumb. They both appeal to two different audiences, and guess what, most Americans grew up watching crazy 80's action. Guess which movie will win next week... Not the one with the video game nerd...
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Apparently, you promised these nerds an Inception review. They haven't got one so toys are coming out of the pram. Just tell them whether you liked it or not - it'll give them something else to bitch about for ten minutes.
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didn't seem to have a problem talking about my disappointment with PREDATORS. Didn't give me pause for a second to trash the fuck out of CLASH OF THE TITANS, even if I was producing a film with the man behind that film. This film isn't better than JOHN RAMBO or ROCKY BALBOA... mainly because those were extremely focused single character driven pieces. That automatically sets the film up as being more introspective, emotional and powerful. THIS is a let-it-go-boom-bigger 80's Action celebration. Corny dialogue rife with one liners.
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But you can't say that the action wasn't vital just because it was a dream and stylised. It might not have the raw explosiveness of Expendables, but you can't deny that the characters in Inception were fighting for their lives in a universe where ANYTHING could happen- and that alone makes it edge of your seat stuff!!! The rules can change depending on who is dreaming! That's the beauty! It doesn't have to conform and its totally fucking vital and INTEGRAL to the entire plot! As for Predator- one of my top 10 movies of all time! Adventures of Robin hood is awesome- Basil Rathbone and Claude Raines steal that movie from Flynn!!!
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I'll be pleased. No market for 80's like action movies? Fuck that noise. If you made a movie today with the action, humor, character, of Die Hard if it's not a hit it should be.
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You can argue about it or you can agree to disagree and carry on with your life...
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Was a bit sexual wasn't it? I got a semi just reading it.
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I am MUCH more looking forward to the expendables than Scott Pilgrim. It may be Edgar Wright, but that gets canceled out by Michael "tha snooze" Cera. And from the adverts for it, it looks like its intent is to pull money from the wallets of the emo kids that Twilight couldn't. Just looks pompous and horrible. I could be wrong, but with the marketing I've seen for it, and the ridiculousness of ticket prices these days, I'll wait til video to find out.
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most people come here for the talkbacks. I like the site but I love the talkbacks.
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Aug 07, 2010 11:13:42 AM CDT
You wrote this review for people like ABKing?
by sierratangofoxtrotuniform
You mean your fellow biased friends who lap up anything you sloppily slap down and call a review? That guy is almost worse than you in his single-mindedness about things and his refusal to see his bias. Well, ok, he IS worse, not to mention completely certifiable. And your "reason" for not reviewing Inception is nothing more than a pretty pathetic excuse, and it's sad you would even try to throw that out there as a legitimate reason. Seriously, how stupid do you think we are? Of course, with the way you're ran this site [into the ground] it's quite obvious your opinion of us.
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Disagree. As head honcho Harry should be leading the way with his reviews and his opinions, and also back them the fuck up!
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I want to see The Expendables AND Scott Pilgrim. That's right! Both, maybe on the same day. Know why? Know why? Cos I love movies! It's why I come here - that and to laugh at all you nerds constantly bitching about absolutely everything. "Harry promised us an Inception review, Waaaah, waaah." Priceless.
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So, in closing, Harry's not aloud to just not go crazy for Inception without a 10,000 word essay on why it didn't make him spurt all over the screen. There are other movie site you can go to, you know?
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It's much more fun arguing about it. And I will carry on with my life just fine, thank you very much ;)
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So do I, but a lot of the talkbacks seem to get ruined by people with a singular focus of pissing and moaning (scottpilgrimfan, choppah, asimovlives, and right now, samjacksonswig come to mind). There's a difference between bitching on a particular thread about a particular piece of entertainment, and bitching on a thread for the sake of bitching or because your balls were hurt by a movie (asimov's ridiculously played out Jar Jar Abrams bullshit, for example). I know no amount of my (or anyone else's) saying so will ever stop it, but damn it's getting out of control, and it's making even the TB's less enjoyable. Then again, I do see the irony in me bitching about the bitching.
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No- he can like or dislike what he wants to, but the reasons he gives AS A MOVIE CRITIC do matter to alot of people. To brush shit off with one sentence is just not good enough.
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Harry's not GOING to argue about it, he has better things to do. But, hey, keep hitting refresh all evening, you might get lucky.
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Harry might be a lot of things but a wordsmith sure as hell isn't one of them and his grasp of the English language is appalling at best.
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IS ABOUT TO EXPLODE.
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Aug 07, 2010 11:20:14 AM CDT
Lemure bitching (constantly) about the bitchers
by sierratangofoxtrotuniform
That not hypocritical at all!
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"... I am for THE EXPENDABLES." - Harry Knowles, Aint It Cool News. They should put that in the commercials for both the Expendables and Scott Pilgrim vs. The World.
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There are thousands of movie critics in this world who have already given their opinions. And who says Harry's opinion is going to be any more professional? Did he study film, or is he just a guy that loves film and then writes what he thinks? I think you need to move on - Harry's happily married.
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I'll get this out of the way now. I will se the Expendables and I will enjoy the Expendables because its my kind of movie. Don't compare me to ScottPilgrimFan, Choppah or anyone like that as my debate has a point to it, and I disagreed with the answer. I will get over it as I am a big boy, but I don't like piss poor answers with no back up. I am not trolling. I just want my questions answered properly. Is that okay with you?
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THIS WEEK ABKING IS KING OF THE WORLD!!!
The King boys got a question answered personally by Sly. They got name-checked by Harry. And most importantly, they saw the release of THE EXPENDABLES - Sly & Arnie sharing the screen.
GOD SAVE THE (AB) KING! -
because he was too busy blowing Sly.
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Just wait till someone bitches about me - then we'll have people bitching about people who bitch about those who bitch. What fun!
I only do it because: 1, you whiny nerds are easy prey, and 2, because I love movies and get bored of seeing bitching in EVERY SINGLE talkback. But, don't let that stop you. -
can be done by the people doing it."
Dude, Harry. My head just asploded...Austin Community College has English classes for like $5/credit hour. Get some grammar lessons.
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....he should invite the AbKing boys to come, too (they will pay their own travel expenses of course). Then post a picture of the meeting here on AICN, with the boys flanked on either side of Stallone, him with his arms around them, and them with raging boners.
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THE EXPENDABLES sounds to me like an 8 outta 10 movie rather than a perfect 10...
But with rewatchability. Something very few Oscar winners have (i'd rather clean the toilet bowl than bother watching THERE WILL BE BLOOD again). Rewatchability is a much under-rated commodity. Cheesy, quotable, rewatchable - sounds great! -
sounds like next friday is going to be epic.
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Plese tell me you're not a John Cena fan.....
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You're right, putting you in the same category as choppah, socttpilgrimfan, and asimovlives was probably a bit harsh. And I understand your frustration in seeing the head honcho not really impressed enough by Inception to cover it. HOWEVER, there is the rotting smell of a dead horse called inception in the TB's lately, and right now you're beating it. Again, sorry for the comparison, I'm just getting tired of every talkback being nothing but people whining lately. It seems for some that that's all they come here for anymore. (they certainly don't comer here for the spotty, shitty TV coverage and it's worthless writer).
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HARRY CHOOSES SCOTT PILGRIM AS FILM OF THE YEAR ALREADY AND HERE'S WHY...
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If you are a Cena fan, don't admit to it. A man loses all respect in the real world once he admits he likes wrestling.
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I have no doubts that the movie will kick major fucking ass! love that kind of shit! And I can't wait to see Jet Li knock Dolphs head from his shoulders!!!
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I aint a troll like others, and it was a perfect excus to ask him questions whilst he was here! And I even got a response. Not one that I was happy with, but hey-ho.
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Aug 07, 2010 11:42:54 AM CDT
CG BLOOD? That's fucking stupid. If so, I'll boycott.
by stereotypical evil archer
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I want to see that fight so bad!!! I can't wait!!!
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Aug 07, 2010 11:44:23 AM CDT
CG BLOOD? Color me disappointed... in pixels. WEAK.
by stereotypical evil archer
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guaranteed
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Aug 07, 2010 11:47:41 AM CDT
Why the monkeyfuck would I like John Cena?
by sierratangofoxtrotuniform
Only John Cena fans would accuse me of being a John Cena Fan.
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A masterpiece?? come on!! Stallone is to be commended for organizing and bringing together an amazing cast, but the movie was just okay. The Expendables is a masterpiece in casting, but not a masterpiece in filmmaking.
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How many people will see this simply for their 5 minute scene and are only interested in it? I know I could care less about the rest of the people in this film. They are the only two actors still relavent in this film.
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Harry, I know Sly is your friend, but I don't think you liked it as much as you wanted to. It's obvious in your writing, man, the excuse that's not Die Hard but a good time is a telling line - in other words drop your expectations.
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I agree. Blood packets (squibs) are cheaper look better and....they look better.
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Depending on what the actors are wearing.
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I see the SAME people coming to this site and doing nothing but complain about the same shit. If you don't trust Harry's reviews, STOP READING THEM. Jesus Christ, it's that simple. My God, you're worse than a bunch of teenage girls. The fact that you keep bitching about the same shit over and over says more about you than it does about this site. Go fucking cry somewhere else.
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Aug 07, 2010 12:04:55 PM CDT
So we expect a luke warn Inception review?
by bp_drills_america_a_new_asshole
Harry has taken two swipes already - the action is not "vital" and he expects Scott Pilgrim to be the best film of the summer. I guess until Chris Nolan unzips his pants and lets Harry deep throat him, his films won't get any Harry love.
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Aug 07, 2010 12:05:47 PM CDT
CG BLOOD? If you can't use squibs, use some fucking editing.
by stereotypical evil archer
Not every violent death is bloody. Clever editing would be FAR more effective.
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Aug 07, 2010 12:07:27 PM CDT
BG BLOOD? Use CG abs instead of HGH. HA HA HA
by stereotypical evil archer
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but I think Harry is right about the action, that was the weakest element for me, but it didn't matter because the film was still fantastic.
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If you don't know the difference, just go and let Chuck Norris roundkick your head off.
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Does Harry HAVE to LOVE Inception then, is that it? He's not allowed to say something like "it's well written, but not really my thing". He has to worship it. Okay, just checking.
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Harry thinks Scott Pilgrim is the best film of the summer. You all disagree even though you haven't seen it yet. I think I'm starting to understand how you whiny nerds think. Harry is ALLOWED to think Inception is the best film of the summer, but he's not allowed to enjoy the Expendables or Scott Pilgrim because you all THINK they will be rubbish. You all hang on his every word so long as he agrees with you. Got it!
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And dont come back.
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hater's gonna hate.
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Harry, while I’m your fan, it comes off like you were disappointed and now you’ll stump for the film a second time after seeing the money shot, the reunion of the PLANET HOLLYWOOD troika. This is a BYO movie wherein the good time you’re going to have seems to be about what you bring as opposed to what you’re seeing. It sounds like the reaction to the first STAR TREK movie where they got something they wanted so bad, it was impossible to say the truth about it. I loved RAMBO, but I didn’t want a movie that was less considering the build up and cast. Reading between the lines, I feel letdown and that expectations were too high. We wanted THE DIRTY DOZEN and THE WILD BUNCH we’re getting SPACE COWBOYS.
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So stop fucking disussing spoilers idiots.
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So I'm probably going to like this one.
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This review said "This is not a finely crafted film. I had fun watching it with my brain off. Watch it with your brains on, and you probably won't like it." Conjecture about WHY Harry wrote that review is silly. I will say this though, I understand what you're saying about the fights in Inception vs Expendables, but I think you could have chosen a better example. That revolving hallway shot is a marvel of well timed and perfectly performed choreography and should be getting praise at every turn.
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action movies where the camera moves alot during fist fights. I know that sound stupid, but during the A-Team when Nite Owl and Qui-Gon where fighting the camera was moving so much and I didn't know what the frick was going on. I hope Mr.Stallone doesn't rely on the movement of the camera to make a scene seem more action packed. And Harry, ignore all these douches. Its your opinion and they have no right to insult it.
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Aug 07, 2010 12:25:49 PM CDT
thatfilmlover, I'm not a hater. CG BLOOD goes against Sly's "pra
by stereotypical evil archer
If I want CG BLOOD, I'll watch STAR TREK VI.
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Just shut up and type that review for kick ass and inception. Are you still under an embargo or something??? Or were they
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This and Scott Pilgrim together won't hit 100 million. Probably good movies, but still.
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I was expecting outrageous levels of bile and malice. Up your game sirs.
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Aug 07, 2010 12:27:26 PM CDT
MANZILLA, didn't you know Inception was a dream?
by stereotypical evil archer
It's all over the trailers and TV ads. What is there to spoil?
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Aug 07, 2010 12:30:52 PM CDT
CG BLOOD goes against Sly's "practical effects" statements.
by stereotypical evil archer
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You make me laugh. But hey, welcome to the "I need to hear Harry's review so I can have something else to bitch about" club. Coffee's on the side, help yourself to doughnuts. Or scroll back and catch up.
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Aug 07, 2010 12:33:12 PM CDT
Harry, just a suggestion: Do a Halloween Horror DVD review
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column! That would be sweet. Like maybe a "These are the Horror Movies I Watch During Halloween" type thing?
Spice it up.
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Does harry feel ashamed after being whored out (again) or is there some dillusion that it was consenual? I just picture doin a walk of shame out the theater of course with fatter pockets
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I don't care aout the content
of his reviews..I just expect that he posts them when he says he will. And after a year or so of gushing over inception and Nolan and kick ass
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Arnie, Stallone and Willis together on the big screen.... and Harry... goes for a piss and misses it. I don't know which is worse... that such a momentous occasion lasted for so short a time that 'having a piss' would blot it out, or that HARRY WENT FOR A PISS WHEN BRUCE WILIS, SLY AND SCHWARZENEGGER WERE ON TOGETHER. Shame on you, Harry.
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Are you guys gonna trash him too? Seriously, no one's expecting this to be Oscar material here, they just want a high body count, and shit getting blown up... and judging from the reviews, that's exactly what it delivers.
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But nothing bein shown has kept up my excitement... oh well Losers AND ATeam was pretty damn good
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It's been awhile and I expected you to drool over it and/or rant, and I was looking forward to it.
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i will see this at some point but reviews thus far have been decidely mixed. Total film gave it 2 stars, Empire gave it 3, empire always gives 3 stars to shit films, empire is way too generous in its reviews. their review mentions loads of faults and then it gets a "good" rating. when it comes to reviewing the dvd release of expendables empire will no doubt drop a star bcos "it's flaws are more apparent on dvd" empire gave 3 stars to Predators. thats right, empire thought predators was good. haha.
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See..if you had taken all those millions offered you to sell your site back in the 90's you could have afforded a chair with a piss bag.Typical Harry review of something he can't see but through childhood eyes...still...sounds like stupid fun, so I'll throw my old rose colored specs on and go see it.And I agree...with the level of Talent in this TB the hate and humor should be at critical mass by now. Step up
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... and even those this was the one film I was really looking forward to this and I got a look at Stallone, Lundgren and Statham from just a few yards away this is - sadly - not the film we all have been hoping for. What pains me the most is that Sly seems to have lost his writing chops, which was already evident in Rambo. It's a simple straightforward story, but it always feels like it was made up while being shot, all the characters are more than cardboard, the dialogue is stilted and even the action looked better in those making-of-clips Sly posted on itunes Except for that Albatros sequence there isn't really one memorable or really exciting moment in the film, there's no emotion to carry the action and when you realize the expendables are so much expendable but invincible that whole men-on-a-mission feeling goes right out of the window.
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Tube up, Knowles.
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Aug 07, 2010 1:12:24 PM CDT
I resent the notion that action films are allowed to be dumb ...
by jackgraham
Die hard is the ultimate example of how great an action film can be. If you watch die hard today it may not have the best action, but as a whole movie, it is unbeatable. everything from the characterisations, the script, the lighting, the performances, it all works to create a hugely satisfying whole. those who say that this film is not meant to be high art, that it has explosions and deaths etc and does what it says on the tin. well, that for me is ambition on the lowest scale. why not up the ante and deliver the rest of what makes a film great. why just make something that has action but no heart. hollywood needs to aim higher bcos it seems there are many out there that settle for the mediocre. this rant is not a reflection on expendables as i havnt seen it yet.
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http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/46037#comment_3488203
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I'll go see this film and hopefully like it. It's not my usual fare, since I'm not generally into big stupid action movies, but I like the group of guys Sly pulled together for this one.
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He posts about the uselessness of complaining yet he is devoting a large chunk of his obviously valuable time defending Harry, who does indeed owe his readers a LOT more than what they've been getting. For people like Lemure, like me spell it out as simply as possible: without us, Harry wouldn't be sitting nearly as high as he is. We came and clicked the ads and drove up hits and got him popular, and he doesn't even hardly do reviews anymore. He doesn't address legitimate complains and instead only continues to ignore the site worse each day it seems. For chrissakes, how many times have people asked for a new talkback that at least looks like it belongs in this decade.
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saw it last night and i nearly peed myself laughing, it's the best buddy cop movies in years and it's one of the funniest movies of the year
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you're opinion of the film is what i feared it would be. having read many reviews, the general consensus seems to be in agreement with you, a wasted opportunity. cgi blood and gore???
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Die Hard 5 directed by Stallone. drool....
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they're just taking the piss because they're bitter and ignorant. We truly did grow up in a golden age of action movies and The Expendables sounds like it'll fit right in. It's all about having fun in the theater, and that ain't a bad thing.
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Harry missed the scene that this entire movie was written around to go to the bathroom and then incorporated it into his review. bizarre.
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The whiners are always going to whine, fuck'em. I always enjoy your reviews even when I completely disagree with them, which is rare. I honestly don't understand why a lot of you people come to this site and read the man's reviews if A. you don't trust him B. you don't think he's a good writer C. you don't respect him. They should just start calling this Whinebacks.
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i went to the bathroom when Walkin and Hopper had their "talking scene".BORIIIING.
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Talk about BJing a movie, you sure love that Inception, huh? I liked it enough, but it struck me as one of those Hitchcock movies that is technically superb but is just not as interesting as Psycho or Birds or Rear Window. I would say Inception is a major work by Nolan, a lot of technical brilliance, but its lack of a human element and its fairly mundane action direction left me kidn of "meh." But obviously anyone who doesn't think Inception is the new Citizen Kane might as well give up their movie hobby, eh? Eat a dick.
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for the US goverment to create a perfect clone of a younter John Carpenter
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i went the bathroom during the pacino/ deniro heat scene.
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so i whipped it out and whizzed all over the teenagers in front of me cause there was NO WAY I was gonna miss Arnie, Sly and Willis.The kids got pissed...then Kurt Russell laughed so it was ok.
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Are you out of your cunting tiny litte shrivelled up mind you fucking dozy ponce? Scroll back through EVERY post I have made on this fucking TB and you will find that the reason for my rant was because I got a shit answer to my question! Also, without reading his "review" I knew that Harry would sing the praises of the expendables. Inception is NOT the new Citizen Kane, far from it. If you were a movie fan instead of such a fucking spineless dozy whore cunt of a TWAT you wouldn't even put them in the same sentence together. Eat a dick? You stupid fucking ass wipe. The world is filled with dozy bastards like you- fucking keyboard warriors you stupid fucking prick! People are entitled to LIKE WHAT THEY WANT TO- but when they can't be arsed to answer a fucking question correctly, then....oh why am I having this conversation with a stupid fucking moron with the IQ of a turnip? And feel free to call me what you want. Just remember that YOU ARE A FUCKING JOKE you daft cunt. Go and die in a fucking corner somewhere.
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You made me laugh
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You made me laugh
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was actually in the scene, he was just in the bathroom.
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People are disagreeing with Harry saying Scott pilgrim hyperbollically is the best film of the summer without seeing it..it's because we've heard this schtick before..kickass is gonna be awesome, I can't wait so and
so to come out cause it's gonna rock!!!yeah, what the fuck ever
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Oh man! People like that really get my fucking goat! They don't fucking read things properly and sit in their rented rat infested shitholes eating chips and watching kiddie porn....
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ten internet points.
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...because he had to pee during EXPENDABLES and missed the Holy Trinity scene.
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Sly was interviewed in Aug issue of Total Film in which he says the following .......... "i asked Kurt for the Expendables, actually, i was taken aback when i was told to put the request in writing and send it to his agent. i was called back by the agent after refusing to send a letter and he said Kurt Russell is not interested in ensemble acting at this time.
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Dude has diabetes....that'll make you need to piss like mad crazy yo.
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Tango and Cash 2: Dancing for Dollars
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It isn't good enough.
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I don't defend Harry, I just feel sorry for him having you nerds hanging on his coat-tails. I've been coming to this site since it started. I don't always agree with Harry, but I also don't care if he does or doesn't review a certain movie because loads of other people do (google them sometime!). Harry owes you shit. Nobody forced you to come on this site or click on the links, and there are plenty of reviews by other critics on here. Bottom line is, you don't like it, fuck off.
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dude has to have a contingency plan.
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any good?
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If you are partial to somewhat cheesy 80's action/sci-fi and like Dolph Lundgren then it is pretty tight. I am a fan
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You mean to say Harry is getting excited about a film coming out? How dare he! Imagine if everybody did that and thought that a film was going to be amazing before seeing it. What a horrible, depressing world that would be. Thanks for clueing me in.
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Aug 07, 2010 1:52:11 PM CDT
But if you're the guy sitting next to Harry in a theater....
by jehovahs_witness
....would you rather the dude was wearing a diaper...or that he left the theater to go to the bathroom so that you don't have to smell that shit...pun intended?
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Aug 07, 2010 1:54:01 PM CDT
ahhh it's an alternative title to Dark Angel, which i've seen
by jackgraham
and like.
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Aliens gathering drugs only found in the brain and scrapping with Big Dolph. That's I come In Peace- quality cheese!!!!! Check it out!!
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It's a 2 for 1 deal: release some gas while emptying his bladder. Do you really want him in the theater while he does that? I mean, even if you don't live in Austin, wouldn't you feel sorry for the Austinites?
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debate ... and curse.
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No I was just countering the blasting you were giving the talkbackers who were doubting harrys word of Scott pilgrim being the best film of the summer, even though as you said they haven't seen it. neither has Harry.I just want Harry after
gushing over a film all year to let
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"With a Vengeance" Jeremy Irons overly chews the scenery as Hans Grubers brother........Sam Jackson plays Sam Jackson (minus the wig...). Oddly enough, when it was released in England on DVD it was cut to pieces. I had to buy it from the States to ensure that it was intact (as a box set along with the fantatic 1, and the let down 2.)
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What journalist do you know that constantly critiques his own craft via incessant open apologies to the public?
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Instead of just durin one of the action "sequences"...worst movie evar!
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Best Mercenary film - though The Professionals is also awesome, as is the Seven Samurai and Magnificent Seven.I make no comment but what seems to me to be quite a distinction is that the films above all had ensembles of accomplished actors of range in them. I'm not really sure that The Expendables can compete in the acting chops.To be honest I might be tainted by a general dislike of 80's action films like Commando, Red Heat, Rambo's 2 and 3 and Cobra. They all seemed to be the then modern equivalent of a late era Randolph Scott western. I love Die Hard and First Blood (which were quality throughout) but the films that this seem to emulate have no real emotional kick for me.
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GI Joe worst movie ever? Close, but can't top Gigli.....or swept away.
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"Has Harry ever said he fucked up and backed the wrong horse? Of course not."
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Aug 07, 2010 2:11:13 PM CDT
I'm not hearing other critics gushing over films either
by six demon bag
Pre release. And the ones I do hear at /film will definitely tell you if the film sucks upon actually viewing it, after high hopes. That's how you keep you credibility.
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Come on people. It's obvious. Scott Pilgrim Vs The World is clearly going to be the biggest film of the year. Stallone and his fellow dinosaurs don't stand a chance against Edgar Wright's cinematic tour de force.
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Commando was Arnies "fuck you Sly, I can do better" movie- and if you switch off all rational thought it actually works. Hated Red Heat because I can't stand James Belushi. He is one of the most unfunny men the world has ever produced. The shift in tone from First Blood to Rambo was huge! I went in expecting more of the same, and felt battered around the head and neck by what was on offer. Still liked it though- Martin Kove getting p'wned- awesome!!!
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Fuck off.
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Chuck Norris declined to be in this movie because he had to use the bathroom, he subsequently took a shit on this movie by not being in it.
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i had the annoyingly edited version of with a veangance for years too. why it was cut i have no idea bcos it still had a 15 cert. phrases such as "fuck you joe" and "what the fuck" were replaced with "go away joe" and "what the hell is that" a travesty. also, the elevator scene was cut and edited to the point of nausea. like you i now own the cinema version, but i have to say, the film in my opinion is still a bit choppy. why is the mcclane/targo fight scene on the boat so badly shot and edited. it aint no john vs karl. and the effects when mcclane and zeus jump off the ship as it explodes, pretty bad. and the ending. it felt like an afterthought. i dont want a die hard villian to die by a lampost wire falling onto his helicopter. and jermey irons was no alan rickman. come to think of it, i'm not a big with a veangance fan at all beyond the first 30/45 mins. the least said about part 4 the better.
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Fuck you, you fucking troll.
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He hasn't been in a movie since God knows when.
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To be honest the times I've watched Commando as I've grown older I've probably enjoyed it more than at the time - once I saw it as being a bit of a parody I appreciated it more.Rambo 2 and 3 - I don't know if it was not having any historical or emotional attachment to Vietnam being British or something but it felt like watching Doctor No and then The Spy Who Loved Me being the immediate sequel. Never really appreciated them. Though Rambo 4 - apart from the fact it ended way to soon and not enough was made of the other characters - the ensemble mercenaries - I actually enjoyed.
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You'll soon realize that Scott Pilgrim Vs The World is a phenomenon. Everyone who is anyone is tweeting about it. It's the biggest cinematic event of the year.
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Some good scenes in there as well as the bad. The explosion at the start, I HATE N...erm EVERYBODY, The water chase in the wagon, "But a kid might..," the lift scene, the train wreck.... much better than number 2 (very apt, that)which unfortunately bored me. (not a date movie, jeez!)
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Do you really have nothing else to do?
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Seriously. Other reviews are all saying that Dolph was by far the weakest link in this film. And that the character history was nonexistent or just badly explained. Etc. etc. etc.That's not to say that all of the other reviews are right, but... well, when this review says that all these things are a high point when everyone else says they're low points, I have my suspicions. Maybe your viewpoint is warped from spending time with Stallone and being so informed about the film (note: I said "warped", not "biased"; I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're not just kissing buttocks to your buddy by saying you liked something that you didn't). But either way, it's difficult to think that your viewpoint is that of the "average fan", no matter how much you attempted to "neutralize your opinions" before watching. I just don't think the average fan will enjoy this (yes, even the ones that will ONLY go to see this for the cast-- which was exactly the mindset of some of the reviews I've read, all of which STILL came away disappointed).
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Aug 07, 2010 2:23:27 PM CDT
kurt russells last film was The strongest man in the world
by jackgraham
wayyyyyyy back in 75.
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Troll? Look in the mirror you fucking dunce wanker. Go and fuck your sister and your mother you brain dead cunt. Just go and fucking die wanking to Scott Pilgrim graphic novels you piss stain. Fuck the fuck off trolling bastard cunt head.
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Hypothetically let's just say this: suppose for the last two years Harry was gushing and pimping the hell out of JONAH HEX and with each news bit released he exclaims like a girl that he can't wait for this film to open and he's gonna see it numerous times!! And as the release date gets closer his dick gets harder and harder cause he ready to blow!! He's so excited. Harry even gets to see the film
before anyone else does cause he's awesome. He tells us about it in passing but a review will be up later cause he's superbusy and doesn't wanna go off half cocked.then the release comes. No review. Then the release goes. Nothing. By this time you know from other sources the film sucked but you would still like to hear an opinion from Harry and why HE was so excited about it. Is he still? of course not, cause you see he's already moved on to the supposed next big thing..SCOTT PILGRIM and he gushes all over that...as I've stated, here's to hoping for a kick ass or inception
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Inception comes in third place.
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What? Not enjoy myself on a talk back? Tonight no I don't. However, tomorrow I will be at work. And isn't this the point of talkbacks- to talk back? To talk with others? Or do you post once in while because you are emotionally flacid? tut tut.
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Aug 07, 2010 2:28:45 PM CDT
Harry's reviews are amongst the worst in history- we know this.
by ultratron
The man simply hasn't the stamina to even hold the job. I would fire an editor for this review. An editor. If you told me you were peeing during the most critical moment of this film you would be fired immediately. When you look at this guy's track record of scattershot, screwed-pooch viewings of seminal films like Avatar and Inception- not to mention he didn't like Matrix 2. Well it's easy to see it's time to for him to hang it up. We get it. You're queer for Errol Flynn. He looks as gay as can be in that movie. You are stuck in that happy moment and cannot accept such high-concept material as matrix 2 and inception, as to do so, would ask too much of your physiology. You are too weak to think. You need ginko perhaps. I want to hear what a well rested, vitamin-filled man who replenishes his body and mind with proper nutrition has to say about film- not the incoherent ramblings of this half-ling, malcontent from Ireland.
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THE EXPENDABLES IS SOUL ASYLUM.
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Commando is exactly that- a complete parody of action movies and doesn't take itself seriously at all!!! Enjoy!!
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.. I thought the action wasn't top notch either. But for that matter no movie since Rambo has had decent visceral action, well that and casino royale. The Expendables better bring it.
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You mean the poker playing right?
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So, in other words, this movie is a homoerotic experience?
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Your kidding right? Out of all the action set pieces in casino royale, you only remember the poker playing? Fuck off.
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Now you will face the wrath of the blackboxes...after Harry welcomed you into the fold by mentioning you in an article, you have bitten that hand, and you will pay dearly for that.
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i have to disagree. i prefer die hard 2 to with a veangance. i know i'm probably in the minority here, but that's ok, einstein was in the minority. die hard 2, for all it's flaws, is better than die hard with too many flaws veangance. Die hard 2 had a very similar tone to the original which i wanted. die hard 3 felt like it could have been any action film, it doesnt feel like a die hard film to me. i prefered McClane in tight surroundings, and although his running around an airport isnt exactly tight, it's alot smaller than the whole of New York. I also think Bruce Willis, along with his hair, lost sight of the character after part 2. he wasnt the same guy after part 2, and i wliked him the way he was. a smart, adept, fast talking forward thinking cop with an attitude, not a jelly belly drunk who struggles to jog the streets of new york.
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Excellent work. Well done.
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Thank you master.
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...why you are afraid of the dark. Now you will learn why you fear the night.
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the opening 15 mins when bond is chasing that olympic gold gymnist was fantastic. one of the best foot chases ever. the 2nd is the foot/truck chase at the airport, culminating in the bad guy blowing himself up. ooops.
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No worries, mate. The world would be a piss poor place if we all liked the same things. Die Hrd 2 wasn't a stinker of a movie, I just had withdrawl symptoms after the first one (which is fucking excellent)and it was a huge letdown for me. (plus my date who sat moaning all the way through- as I said, NOT a date movie). Franco Nero did exactly what he did in Force Ten from Navarone and wasn't a convincing bad guy. The stting of snow=peril was anti-climatical with what was going on INSIDE the airport and failed to add much to the tension (who believed that Mrs McClane's plane would crash? Not me...)but for all that Willis shone in the role (AS per usual...)
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And some building sinking. And I remember Bond flipping his car.
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It's been a long time coming but you nailed this review. Hope you can keep the passion going in forthcoming reviews.
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About the Inception review. We all know it was a fantastic movie and Harry has even stated how he feels about it. This repeated hassling about it just looks like you need something to complain about. You damn right I am complaining about the complainers. You guys annoy me. Just like the fact that no matter what Harry says, because Sly was nice enough to answer the questions here (which I enjoyed more than almost anything on this site recently), you are going to assume that Harry will push this movie for his friend and to kiss ass. That is such bullshit. I've been coming to this site since it first opened and he has always liked these kind of movies. I have not agreed with him about movies all the time, especially the last few years, but it is his opinion and his fucking web site. If you don't like it, you can always go to Yahoo and read a review by some fucking moron who doesn't even know how to have fun. Seriously, why are you here? Dissenting opinions are great, but being a constant asshole over it doesn't impress anyone.
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he creates, sets up a film website, when these things were new and fresh. but as is the norm, harry's website has stayed the same, unchanged, for 15 years. people have come and gone. other websites have come and gone. the two best coming attractions, which is went away for a while, came back better then ever and dark horizons is now the best film site on the web.Garth franklin started out doing it himself. but then he got his friends and family involved in the running of the company. think his dad had accountancy firm. he worked with him for a while to see how you run a company. while at same keeping his website uptodate. and he went to college to study joutnalism, learned how to edit, write, and interview skills. and got some work expierence. and you can tell, he has put all of that experience back into dark horizons. aicn seems stale by comparisons. no change, and his reviews are terribly written. I would have thought that harry whose parents were in the rigging business would have learned in the business world before embarking on this website and studied journalism. to write proper, english. its his website but after 15 years. what has harry really accomplished bar the taking over of a second website......famousmonsters.com?
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i think bruce has delivered the goods performance wise in all but the last die hard movie. he appeared to be sleepwalking through part 4. shame really. the reason why his first outing as mcclane was so good was bcos his entire movie career depended on it. not the case anymore. he can afford to wing it nowadays. bruce is either a great liar or a very deluded man, because ive lost count of the times he has said to the media "die hard 4 is as good if not better than the original" at least we are agreed that part 4 stinks. you do agree on that dont ya. thus far you have remained silent on part 4. speak!
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What the fuck would your collectivist bitch ass know about being man or fighting?
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If you don't remember the action in Casino Royale it was because you were too busy licking your mom's vag and gulping on her menopausal pussy juices.
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Sly's Botox filled head is waaayyyy up your ass, Harry.
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...and reads this blasphemy, the pillars of AICN will shake. Many of you will be roasted in a fire, and eaten...with BBQ sauce.
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..screaming in terror. Fires will burn brightly in the night, and Harry will roar. His thunderous footsteps will echo through the night while talkbackers scurry. Those who trip or fall will be vanquished...devoured...eaten by Harry...and will slither out of his rectum 24 hours later.
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You would know.
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"I haven't reviewed Inception because I feel one needs to see it many many times before I can review it." So I guess everyone else who has reviewed it is just a fucking idiot for going with what their gut and brain said the first time they saw it? You're just giving out excuses Harry. Just say Inception didn't wow you and didn't instill any passion in you to write a review, or say you've been too lazy or too tired. Don't try to pass off your lack of review as being because you need to see it a multitude of times. That's just about an insult to everyone here.
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You had no choice but to LOVE this pile of crap. I saw it too (at a screening). It's bad no matter how much you pretend it isn't. It's not a "tribute to the 80's" - The film "looks that way" because that's the decade where Sly's skills as a film maker peaked.... and Not so deep down, he knows this. I respect what you had to do but this "film" is D-level crap.
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Like lambs braying gleefully before the slaughter, not knowing what lies in wait. The beast is coming. Large and orange, you will know it by its smell.
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That you needed to go home and "pound out" a review for that movie before Inception and your DVD column too?
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whatever it is it's quite funny. are you refering to Harry when you say "large and orange, you will know it by its smell"
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gi joe is the WORST. Bored by action, humor, effects, and plot. Best part of movie was the kid. Fight! Wtf! And gigli was NOT that bad (unless you follow movie hatin fads). In fact I might rewatch it ondemand. Never saw swept away however
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is that a good thing? im confused.
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Seriously, does this fat red-headed piece of shit do anything but sit on his fat ass all day with his mail order Korean bride watching movies? There's such an interesting world out there, filled with so many interesting people. It must be horrible to be a basement dwelling, mouth breathing nerd...
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is that a good thing?
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watch my INCEPTION SPOOF at http://tinyurl.com/2a7v3q3! Hopefully harry reviews it heheh
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That is the question.
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The fact that Harry did, shows he is a poor human being and not worthy of...well...anything. He probably went out for a piss just as Vader said "Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father"
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"mainly because those were extremely focused single character driven pieces. That automatically sets the film up as being more introspective, emotional and powerful. THIS is a let-it-go-boom-bigger 80's Action celebration. Corny dialogue rife with one liners. " come on now harry, surely even you demand more from your films..this is my problem with criticism today. You peaople will hide behind legit striving for art film arguments when you hate a film ie. michael bays ilk but then see and champion the rational behind cinema when you have fun at a "shit" film. it's not fair and you all know it. what you feel for this 80's revist is what thousands of ppl feel for transformers films yet they are all made to feel stupid for it and it's ok.
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The end battle is gratuitous? Wrong adjective methinks. "I do not think it means what you think it means."
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and his ilk troll on these talkbalks consitantly.. it is only now you step and call it for what it is...pretty childish..
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He's too dumb to get it. No, really. Inception isn't that high brow a movie but going by way Harry reviews movies, he lacks the brains. He just isn't smart enough to make sense of anything that is presented as a puzzle.
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Is pretty fucking bad too. He handles action the way Lucas handles the Cantina scene? WTF does that even mean?! MADNESS!!
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Aug 07, 2010 3:22:26 PM CDT
Basically if you hate 80's action, you will hate this film.
by stuntcock mike
It also means you're a fucking idiot.
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Just don't bother at this point. Its too late.
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Game, set and action match.
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on my local tv.
Great fun.
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Not sure of the title, but it features the daughter of lawrence fishburne
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"Searching for Baby Fishburne's Punanee".
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the fight on the moon is by far the best fight scene ever filmed, followed closely by the fight to stay awake.
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"Event Whore-izon".
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I'm not trolling. How many times do I have to explain that? Do NOT put me in the same categories as those idiots who argue for no reason. In saying what you are saying, you're trolling, not me.....
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Die Hard 4= a load of wank. Oh how much I detested it. Timothy Oliphant just SUCKED. Willis phoned it in. Kevin Smith needed to stay behind the camera. Just really terrible.
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If you can't understand why followers of AICN would be pissed off that the head writer for AICN still hasn't reviewed one of the biggest movies of the summer three weeks after its been released and after promising everyone it would come up soon, after writing reviews for two other movies, and after watching multitudes of movies he's seen countless times before (instead of taking the time to write the columns and reviews people come to his site to read)- if you can't understand why that would piss people off, then you're just clueless man. Stop ridiculing everyone who is trying to hold Harry accountable to his word and his profession.
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the expendables.
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ya could did "csi (cum scene investigations)","the MATRICKS", "What's Love Got to do wit porn", or "peewee fun house (full of hoes)"
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"Bottom line is, you don't like it, fuck off." Listen to yourself and take your own advice, buddy.
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And if you agree that everything said on these TBs is gospel and have no objection to any of it (would that make you a troll???)then you are fucking lying! I dont hate Sly or the Expendables- infact I am looking forward to seeing it; but you call me a troll for asking pertinent questions from a man who has consistently dodged the answers not just me, but others seek. I am not a hater. But I will not accept shit from someone who should know better. If you do, then shame on you.
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I watched "Out For Justice" and "Get Carter" the other night and for all of the faults I love those movies. Segal is an ass..plain and simple,but I liked watching him roll around brooklyn beating the shit out of fake mob guys. I enjoyed whole heartedly watching Stallone as a mob enforcer beat the shit out of rapists and website porn guys. I will go see The Expendables atleast two or three times because most modern action movies are pure shit. Just one fuckers opinion. While i'm dishing my opinion's out, if you hate The Expendables go put on your skinny jeans and anime t-shirt,tell your fat emo girlfriend to put on her pink wig and stand in line to see Scott Pilgrim.
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...but I'm going jogging. Keep hope alive!
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a friend of mine said Transformers 2 was better and had better action.
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They were fawning all over themselves thinking they could finally tell the public to go see it. Hey, the public went anyway.
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it may grow more on me after repeat viewings but on the basis of one viewing i didnt think it was amazing at all. for long periods i found it to be very boring.
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Are officially the dumbest ass hole ever. Don't have kids because that would seriously damage the next generation. Ugh.
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can I get that review signed notorized "before" I pay to see the movie ?
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SUDDEN DEATH. Partly for being unofficial, partly for obeying the DIE HARD rules, partly for the cinematography, partly for Powers Fucking Boothe, partly for a neat sense of the ridiculous. Van Damme versus a Redshirt in a Penguin Outfit, anyone?
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So I'm guessing somewhere in that rambling incoherent comment is a point... though difficult to figure it out. Nice to see they hold such a high intellectual standard here at aicn... and what does die hard have to do with anything?? That classic and pathetic ego stroking puke like expendables don't even breathe the same air.
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never seen it but my gf recommends i see it. what do you guys think?
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Great Die Hard-esque action flick. Van Damme is cool and likable and Powers Boothe is a fantastic villain. Love it!
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Aug 07, 2010 3:52:07 PM CDT
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GET A HARD ON DURING ACTION UNLESS YOURE
by ejkousc
Not saying you're gay Harry but you're coming off a little out of the loop that dudes dont claim to get hard-ons when watching men essentially wrestle. You get hardons during charlies angels or kill bill or a Sucker Punch trailer. Not the Expendables. Get it?
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Maybe someone else mentioned this already, but that word is meant to apply to qualities in the feminine or juvenile that give an appearance of maleness, as in "That woman has a mannish jawline", or "For only fourteen years old, that boy has a mannish voice." Is that what you were trying to say about The Expendables?
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when the chopper very slowly falls to the ground, with powers boothe still inside it, staring at Van Damme as the chopper passes by him on the roof of the stadium. hilariously executed.
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You just turned into the Lowest Common Denominator. That had to be one the most idiotic, juvenile reviews I've ever read. Its a sad day when Wyrm's reviews trump yours in quality in every way I swear this review was written by a 17 year old with tourretts.
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In describing sporty lesbians, or in the first half of Muddy Waters song titles.
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Its good. Watch it.
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for sporty lesbians playing electric blues.
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"I love Stallone"
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Personally I think the film looks like shite. But, if Harry liked it, he liked it. Big deal. I have no gripe with that. I may disagree with his taste but I don't think he's grabbing his ankles for Sliza.
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You won't be disappointed. It's a great action flick.
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aka total bullshit and unreliable. Yes, we all have our own tastes in film, but this is so obviously biased it might as well have been posted on the FOX news website.
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Wow, those are tall words coming from a guy in a scooter Harry
He's lucky to have a friend like you
And did anyone honestly believe that Harry wouldn't like the movie after those Stallone chats (which were actually pretty good)
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Aug 07, 2010 4:05:03 PM CDT
Not complaining, but come on! Like you were gonna say anything b
by brody77
...about this film.
You did NOT "pound out this review" as soon as you got in.
Like fuck.
You cracked one off.
But you know what, I don't give a shit, as long as you're not just bullshitting us to keep up your wee love affair with Stallone.
I WANT this film to rock hard.
My only worry is who doesn't make it to the end credits for the possible sequel.
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and screw you Harry. Your dick suckery is on a whole new level after this review.
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That was too easy =P. Sorry, I haven't seen it in years but I remember enjoying it quite a bit when I did. Just remember Jurassic Park and the Itchy ad Scratchy Land episode of The Simpsons. And watch out for Yul Breyner's glowing robot eyes.
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harry wasn't "expecting" shakespere
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it can't be any worse than big brother.
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Three weeks at number one..that's rare these days if you're not afamily oriented film not based on a franchise or a sequel. And not having the box office receipts padded with IMAX 3D either, I think inception should have been reviewed, definitely afterball the hype from harrys gaping maw
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Aug 07, 2010 4:12:28 PM CDT
I’VE TALKED TO HARRY AND HERE’S MY IMPRESSION……
by christianterroristmilitia
He’s like that kid you knew in grade school who was a spoiled little puke that LOVED wrestling and didn’t seem to have all his dogs barking. You could talk with him but there was something missing in his personality. A lack of depth. Harry Knowles is nothing but raw id which is described as such; “The id (concept originated by Sigmund Freud) comprises the unorganized part of the personality structure that contains the basic drives. The id acts according to the "pleasure principle", seeking to avoid pain or unpleasure aroused by increases in instinctual tension”. The “Pleasure Principle” is “a psychoanalytic concept, originated by Sigmund Freud. The pleasure principle states that people seek pleasure and avoid pain, i.e., people seek to satisfy biological and psychological needs.” This basically states that Harry has always been a psychologically damaged person in evidence of the fact that he has always been a morbidly obese fat bastard. This is probably as a result of his upbringing by parents who allowed their child to live in a fantasy dream world where he was able to indulge in movies and food in place of real goals that require actual effort such as academics and physical fitness. This is because he never developed a Reality Principle which is “is a psychoanalytic concept (also originated by Sigmund Freud) that compels one to defer instant gratification when necessary because of the obstacles of reality. It is the governing principle of the ego and stands in opposition to the pleasure principle of the id.” Furthermore, “The id rules early life, but as one matures, one begins to learn the need sometimes to endure pain and to defer gratification because of the exigencies and obstacles of reality. In Freud's words, ‘an ego thus educated has become reasonable; it no longer lets itself be governed by the pleasure principle, but obeys the reality principle, which also at bottom seeks to obtain pleasure, but pleasure which is assured through taking account of reality, even though it is pleasure postponed and diminished’". This analysis perfectly describes why Knowles hasn’t reviewed Inception while giving Stallone a blowjob over The Expendables, besides Harry’s obvious corruptibility which helps feed his id as it provides him with the instant gratification of pweasants, freebies and free screenings. Inception is a movie that forces you to work. It makes you think where as The Expendables is cinematic junk food and thus the reason why Harry gobbles it up like the greedy man-child he is while shunning the mental treadmill of Inception.” I would have thought that his recent near death experience would have , maybe, matured Knowles but it’s obvious that he has learned nothing, will learn nothing and is doomed to live out the rest of his (probably short) life indulging himself as he always has. Harry lacks the self-awareness to realize that, although he may have fed his immediate appetites, he has denied himself a truly satisfying life of pleasures that are all the more sweeter because they are hard earned.
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I still have my doubts though. I've seen nothing in the trailers that i liked and my gut feeling is while it's an aweseome cast. The movie will be a letdown.
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Aug 07, 2010 4:16:08 PM CDT
I've been saying since day one this would suck, 42% on RT!
by ganymede3010
As for Harry, what else did you expect him to say?
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It reinvigorated my love for movies
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60 minutes of mind-numbing bollocks followed 20 minutes of exploding body parts? Whoop-de-cunting-doop.
I'm still hoping Sly redeems himself with Expendables, though. Let's be honest, it can't be any fucking worse than his last flick.
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On twitter sine it came out. Now I know most of you hate twitter (like anythin else "cool") but I think that speaks volumes. I mean, gaga, bieber, and other irrelevant stuff trends, but I have hope in the world now just because they wanna keep discussin a msterpiece (which either harry hated or despises because he gets nothing out of it...no money, set visit, or a artic warfare cobb action figure). Twitter baby!
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Watch it. It's right up there with Silent Running and The Omega Man. If you get bored you can always do the nasty in front of Yul and James Brolin.
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Burn motherfucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 we are not whores!!!!!!!!!
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Another dreadful, rambly load of kak. I love this site, but by Christ I wish you didn't write for it, Harry.
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No emo fags, no 90 lb women killing a roomful of guys, no endless barrages of cgi and wirefu bullshit!THANK YOU, STALLONE! THANK YOU!
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Aug 07, 2010 4:24:35 PM CDT
"artic warfare cobb action figure" --- LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by dioxholsterreturns
haha harry would love to have that in his room next to his barbie collection!
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Aug 07, 2010 4:25:39 PM CDT
it's got 90% on RT, i don't think ill need to do the nasty.
by jackgraham
mt gf took care of that earlier .... twice ;)
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Cobol dont like the movie at all, represents them in a bad way and they got Harry in their pocket as usual. actually everyone got Harry in their pockets.
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Aug 07, 2010 4:27:08 PM CDT
It would be cool if this turns out to be the hit of the summer
by rplocke
There's only been three big movies this summer, Iron Man 2, Toy Story 3. Inception is croaking along.
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Well, I still think that's Harry's best review because it came from his heart/pants. Once again, here, we see the true value of the man. Fuck da critics - if you love a film for any reason that moves you, say so. It's an opinion and therefore still valid. You don't have to take any notice or continue coming to the site.
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Stallone looks like Liza Minnelli playing a pirate. I don't think the CGI in this one can be any worse than it was in Rambo where he had his wrinkles smeared out. It's painfully obvious in hi-def. Sucka, yeah.
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Aug 07, 2010 4:29:10 PM CDT
that friend of mine thinks Inception wouldve been better with lo
by dioxholsterreturns
he said Inception's lack of CGI and crazy dream CGI stuff is the main flaw. I told him hes crazy and that he is a dumb CGI whore. Not kidding, he wanted Inception to be like 2012 movie! crazy right?
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cant believe people liked it. it was meh
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Does it live up to its spiritual predecessor Top Gun in anyway Harry?
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3 gallon tub of popcorn...$20 80 ounce pepsi...$10 Having to piss during the Sly/Arnie/Bruce scene...PRICELESS.
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Arnold, Bruce, Dolph are barely in it. Stone Cold and whateverthefuck other wrestler arent actors, Statham is a 2000s star, Li is a 90s star, only Sly is the only 80s star. A fucking nobody badguy, unlike every 80s action movie who had a star badguy actor. Fuck this movie up its ass and fuck Sly and his candidness and self-depracation.
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this review is a big FUCK YOU to all the readers who demand an Inception review, and a ballsy public act of fellatio on Stallone knowing full well that he will be strongly derided for it by his readers. I guess the message here is "this is my sight, go fuck youself if you don't like it." ok fine. but you know what, fuck this stupid movie. at least soon it will be over with and we can all forget about it, presumably the instant we leave the theater.
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WTF was that movie about anyway?
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how weird. is he really that vain? and why is he doing the publicity rounds wearing johnny depp style blue lensed glasses, indoors! see Letterman interview! He's always struck me as the vain type but c g i'ing out wrinkles? that's on a whole new level. What would Clint Eastwood think?
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No kidding.
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the plot was indeed very simple. I enjoyed it a lot but it's fucking overrated as a piece of cinema. yeah it's brilliant in many categories, but really lacking in a couple key attributes that typically categorize a perfect or near-perfect film.
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Yep, have a look at the river boat scene where he whacks out the pirates. On BR, you can see it nice and clear. In Rambo he killed pirates, in Expendables he looks like Liza playing one. Yak'da-yak'da-yak'da.
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wax work of himself.
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Did anybody understood anything said in this review? Hell if i undestood this review. Harry has been acused of doing this "stream of conscience" reviews, but this, he took it to the top level. This review is beyond surreal! Fuck if i know what he said. Yeah, i got the idea that he liked the movie. But hell if i know why.
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A man, willing to stay with a crazy chick because the sex is that good. The last scen with Cobol, it was deep and moving but at the same time HILARrious! I just wanted Leo to call her a crazy bitch just once
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Sly has a wonderful hair helmet. It's made by 3M I believe. Waterproof and indestructable for all your action film needs.
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because sly's worth it.
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Bar none. The corridor fight scene where the two characters fight on the walls and ceilings, gravity all nonsense. Nothing this year will top that, nothing. Anybody who couldn't enjoy that sequence better give up on movies right now.
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INCEPTION is underrated. 20 years from now people will still talk about it, and the young geeks of the future will look back and be admired that there were people who put down or underrated it. INCEPTION is for keepers.
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I really wish this movie is good, because i'm loving the new career of Sly Stallone. But Harry's review is not giving me much confidence now. Yeah, his positive rieview is the kind that makes one concerned and scared.
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I'd rather a love letter to 70s thrillers or war movies.
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anyways, what was the relevance of the spinwheel in Scarecrow's safe at the end?
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The whole snow 'action' sequence (the third dream level, yes); was so poorly choreographed, edited, shot and paced. It was so bland and unexciting it threw me out of the movie a bit. Nolan is incapable of doing proper action scenes. Yes the short zero gravity fight sequence was exciting, probably the best part of the movie IMO, but you can credit the FX-people and second unit crew for that
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Aug 07, 2010 5:15:18 PM CDT
dude harry...Inception's last 40 minutes is groundbreaking
by thedark0knight
in terms of its action. I'm sure The Expendables is a great action film, but Inception is the best action movie since The Matrix.
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Aug 07, 2010 5:16:50 PM CDT
Nolan doesn't use a second unit crew to shoot anything
by thedark0knight
Phister & Nolan shoot it all.
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Have to agree with you, the whole snow action sequence wasn't quite that great, best snow action scene goes to Goldeneye. And parts of Cliffhanger. I liked inception but I still think Insomnia is his best movie.
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i've had more excitement playing snow ball fights with the little shits around my neighborhood. but yes, the corridor scene was good. i just don't think Nolan is a master of action. throughout all his films since batman begins that has been the most coomon complaint, particularly in his batman movies.
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refresh my memory?
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that snow scene took me out of the movie.
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What a fucking bore. Hey Nolan, guess what, I already saw Paprika. Thanks tho. Gimme Expendables anyday!
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Something about Mary, dumb n dumber, half baked, and of course, batman and robin
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then then any scene in the A-team, the fight scene with War meachine and Ironman, Any scene action or other wise in Legion or Daybreakers,THe wolf fight scene in Wolfman, or last fight scene in Predators.
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this is nolans second film with a weakish ending.
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I agree sir, I agree.
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Marion Cotillard = Cameron Diaz, same character, same plot. Christopher Nolan is far from a genius. He's a tad bit above average.
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Aug 07, 2010 5:34:20 PM CDT
i want a love letter to 80's 90's joe eszterhas erotica ...
by jackgraham
jagged edge, basic instinct, jade, sliver, showgirls and erm An Alan Smithee film:Burn hollywood burn.
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JAck falls asleep when he dies then he washes up on shore
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can't be any worse than Shutter Island.
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he's so serious about his "art"
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but this movie has my pocket money
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http://www.aintitcool.com/talk back_display/46037#comment_348 8203
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Debra Winger and Jessica Lange, uh-uh.
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Aug 07, 2010 6:03:01 PM CDT
Harry went to take a piss during the Arnie/Bruce scene?
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
Well, considering that was the most awaited scene of the film and what everyone wanted to hear about, you should be ashamed. Makes this 'review' fucking useless. I agree with that guy who described Harry's psychological problems above. Movie reviewing ain't exactly rocket science, and Harry can't even do that properly. A tip - don't bring a 5 gallon drum of full fat coke into the theater with you, Harry. Then you won't have to take a whizz. And then you won't be feeding your chronic obesity and diabetes, either.
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The Expendables is currently sitting with 46%. I'm in geek-love with Rambo IV. Therefore, judging by the so-called rev's, I have pre-confidence in Sly's latest. Also, there's no need to knock Harry for loving what he loves. It's all rather subjective, once you think about it.
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Which Nolan was clearly trying to emulate and utterly failed at, bested by an over 40 year old movie. I liked parts of Inception, but Nolan cannot do big budget action. He should go back to lean lower-budget psychological thrillers like Memento and Insomnia.
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gay for Sly.
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everyone looking forward to this film (i am too!) just remember one thing. the mindset you put yourself into when you go see this...should be the mindset you put on when you go see a Bay film. not oscar bait, not a horror film, not a romance, not high art, not a comedy, no inception...just big fun macho cool action.
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is all kinds of awesome. Sly directed both. I believe the same could/will be said for his latest effort. For this type of flick, all I personally ask is that it looks and sounds that good. Hence, R-IVx2. Add Stallone, Li, Lundgren, Roberts, etc to that positively-potent mix, and I suppose you could say: we're cooking with gas!
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It's called "Man having Sex with Ladies". It's about this man from Ohio who is a bit of a drifter, and he goes from one place to another and he tends to meet a different lady each place he goes. The first lady he meets takes a liking to him right away - they meet at an empty coffee shop. After some small talk, he begins kissing this lady passionately. They both remove their clothing, and then he inserts his penis into her vagina. He pulls it back and forth in her vagina while making a screwface, she makes one, too, and eventually he squirts his baby making fluids on her stomach. This tends to be the trend with most of the women he meets, the locations and women change, but this is constant. It's a dramatic look at America during a recession, and one man's search for meaning within this capitalist country, and within his empty life. It's a wonderful film, and the DP filmed one of the Ernest ("Hey Vern") movies. Check it out if you get the chance.
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This film will blow our minds. In other news, Other Guys was so-so...the best part were the first 15 minutes with the Rock and Samuel L. Jackson cap duo's adventures.
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Back in the 1980s, I'm pretty sure John McTiernan and George Miller and Renny Harlan and George P. Comatose weren't setting out to make "cheesy, fun, popcorn, put-your-brain-on-hold, etc." movies. More likely, they were trying to make the BEST movie that they could, from the BEST script that they could get, with the BEST actors the production could afford.
I'm all in favor of having a good time at the movies, but, unless the ticket price is two dollars, I'm not ready to cheerfully accept "cheese." Especially if it's purposeful cheese, or if "it's supposed to be cheesy fun" is an excuse to cover for incompetent or lackadaisical filmmaking.
It's perfectly fine to have a personal love for a less-than-accomplished movie, but films like COBRA or UNIVERSAL SOLDIER are nothing to aspire to. Much smarter to aspire to DIE HARD or STAGECOACH or THE ROAD WARRIOR, and hope that your film sinks no lower than the first two examples.
I'm not prejudging THE EXPENDABLES, which I'm actually looking forward to. But I think a celebration of crappy cinema would take a real cinematic genius to successfully pull off, and I don't know that anyone has ever accused Stallone of being that. -
Suppressed homoerotic rage.
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Incpetion breaks the Hollywood mold like few other movies have in the last decade, Harry can't be arsed to even grace it with a review. Expendables, with his best fweind fowever Stallone comes out, and he's spooging all over the internet about it.
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that keeps me coming back here day after day. There is real quality hate in this mother..and a lot of seriously funny and talented people. As I have said...most of you are missing your calling...you guys should be writers.Carry on...
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Guys bitching about a movie made for us, guys?!They fall over themselves for shit like Twilight, TF, SATC movies, and endless Angeline Jolie flick, yet Stallones gives us a throwback and some bitch about!?!WTF, is wrong with you, guys!?Damn, I blame too many Lifetime movies of the week, women cutting the balls off men, the degrading quality of good music, reality tv, and emo fags ruling tv!Someone stated they saw Bloodsport on tv today, well I did too and it was still excellent!Someone stated how Sudden Death was the unofficial sequel to Die Hard and they could be right...in a weird way! Whatever it was a good action flick!Men, gather whats left of your dignity and support this movie so Stallone and the studios know we're out there and wanna see more!
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Go testicles!
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Harry shouldn't have reviewed this. Kind of a conflict of interest to review the movie of a guy who has been featured on your site so much recently. It'd be impossible to write a review without being biased. Still want to see it, but it's impossible to know if the movie is worth watching when the person saying it's great is friends with the director.
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That shit is so runny and watery it doesn't even taste like coke.
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anyone????
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Someone who is getting it for free.
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Should have put Massawyrm on the Sylvester Stallone nonsense (or masterpiece as some would call it) and have allowed the red-haired fella to say something about the most anticipated sci-fi actioner of the year.
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eat hummus, let alone eat it during the watching of a film. That's REALLY good stuff!
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I really wonder what Stallone thinks of this review. Can you imagine feeding someone inside scoops for that long and even going as far as answering questions for a web community just to end up with this type of drivel? Yes, as others have pointed out, this may be the worst review in history. Way to go Knowles.
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...Mr. Jack Burton. But otherwise I'm looking forward to seeing it.
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who are you Harry; Zohan?
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What is it made out of Shiner Bock and Pinto beans?
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Michael Pare, I would have gone to see it. I'll wait until it hits Netflix.
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which made both AvP films seem well directed and written, that's how easy he took it.
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You and i have the same opinion regarding Inception so maybe we have similar movie tastes. Westworld is a good flick, inspired a sequel and a very short almost completely forgotten about tv series of the same name. Watch it.
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At the premiere, the consensus was that this was a waste of a lot of time and talent. Maybe 10-20 minutes of decent material in the whole thing. Fight scenes badly choreographed. Non-existent plot. Bad acting and accents with the majority of the movie is various characters playing bickering odd couple pairs, spouting bad one-liners in indecipherable accents.There is honestly more testosterone in SALT then there is in Expendables. A severe disappointment. Not even Jet Li or Statham's best film, and that says a lot.
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That's exactly how I feel about Die Hard With a Vengence. Could have been any action movie, and not a very good one at that.
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Who even says the word pop?
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He's already chosen enough shitty projects in the last few years to last a lifetime.
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Gayer words were never said.
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Harry will admit that during the opening trailers he had to be wheeled out because of vicious mexican runs from eating at Acuna Boys' earlier that afternoon with Josh Hartnett and a more famous guy than Josh Hartnett whose name he can't say because they are working on a "huge thing" and it's a secret. But he'll let you know when its completely fallen through.
He'll get reseated after wrecking the drafthouse bathroom and being hosed off by his nurse. But it will be the greatest movie in the history of movies.
And for you doubters... Acuna Boys' wasn't physically real in our world until QT willed it into existence for Harry because they both know they are the greatest enchiladas in the universe. Hartnett agrees.
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Probably from the Midwest. My guess, Minnesota or Wisconsin.
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and I say soda.
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Great name. "I want a lawyer, I have rights..."
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Aug 07, 2010 9:05:18 PM CDT
"after wrecking the drafthouse bathroom and being hosed off by h
by sailor rip
lol. I fucking love you guys.
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I love ya too man. You know I'm just evil for the sake of Satan's glorious name. I'll tell you what though. I am fucking ready for this shit. This will be inhaled. Btw- nobody probably saw when I mentioned it earlier but they are filming ALL of Pixar's changes. Yup. They are trying to make the movie better.
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I wonder if that's more established in any particular part of the U.S.?
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but it'll never happen. I'm pretty sure they have a special-made stall for the ginger-wheeler in the drafthouse. It's called The Harry-Housin'. Vacuum sealed for YOUR protection.
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here in the South, it's all 'a coke'. Then they say "Is Pepsi alright?" To which you reply: "Whatever your regular coke is."
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Aug 07, 2010 9:28:35 PM CDT
" I expect SCOTT PILGRIM to be the best film of the summer"
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
And with that, the last shreds of Harry's integrity are cast to the wind. Harry's unbridled fellatio of Edgar Wright's upcoming dog's breakfast made this a foregone conclusion. Harry trashed the ending of the excellent Toy Story 3 for utterly laughable reasons, and he's clearly intent on ignoring Inception all together. Thus transparently clearing the decks to anoint a minor dork film that I'd wager about 90% of the readership couldn't care less about.
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I'm actually really looking forward to this movie and have been for a long time. Just being cheeky! (And yes, I know you're not a plant.)
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Is from the photo Murphy leaves on his father's bedside table.I could go on, but it would be spoilerific.
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I think this movie will be fun.
Yes Harry is not very credible with his butt kissing to his hollywood "friends"* still there is no doubt in my mind that he enjoyed it as will most of us who see it.
*"friends" just means they need to be nice to him and make him feel special as he owns one of the most influencial movie sites on the web. If the moment comes that the site loses all credibility and no one uses it, he will suddenly find that his calls do not get returned and he will fade into oblivion as a film geek like everyone else -
that is why we all hate him
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they are both good flicks.go watch them.and i think there is a remake of Westworld coming,at least thats what imdb says.
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Sausage Fest 2010! YAAAAAHHH. From the same people who gave us, Sausage Fest 2009, and Sausage fest 2008. This set includes Sausage Fest: Jingle Bells Edition and Sausage Fest: Balls of Fury, and a shaker weight for you wife.
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...is so delayed, because nolan turned down a request harry made for an interview or something along those lines. based off some of the things harry has said, i'm totally wondering if there is more to it than simply 'i need to wake up'. nolan is beloved by our kind, and harry sees himself as kind of a representative of our group, and i bet harry reached out & did not get the response he wanted. just a theory, but i bet there is more to it than harry's letting on.
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Kick Ass is already out on DVD and it was in theaters in May, lol.
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Aug 07, 2010 10:55:48 PM CDT
Is there a scene in the movie where Bruce, Sly and Arnie unite
by eyeforgivemelgibson
HASTA LA KIYAY BABY FUCKER ADRIAAAAANNN!!!!!!!!!
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I believe one of them, possibly to appear on the DVD, will be the scene where the expendables give each other golden showers. You know, for luck.
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You know it will. Better opening weekend and way better legs.
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Did anyone think Harry would give the movie an honest review after the all the interaction with Stallone? For crying out loud, Harry, have a little distance.
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I think you're on to something. Inception has been the biggest movie of the summer by far, yet Harry is silent. But I bet the Scott Pilgrim review is out right away.
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Is that an Oprah book?
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It reminds me of Glenn Beck's double chin.
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Seriously. Come one, come all. Come fuck some cats like Rush Limbaugh fucks underaged Dominican boys with other people's Viagra.
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Most geeks move from one to the other...still geeks but PRIMARILY FILM makers...Harry is a fanboy, and therefore the best he can hope to be is a publicist..and that's the context his reviews should be taken in. I hope Expendables is good..the trailer before Predators i saw got an decisive SIGH of boredom from the audience..however we weren't quite ready for how flat predators would be either.
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Harry,
Been a long time reader of your site. It-along with Vern, has inspired me to my own blogsite of film reviews that's doing pretty well, but I have to say, you really need to answer all of these talkbackers who are basically calling you a "stooge" for giving these and other films that seem to give AICN preferential treatment (interviews, Q&As and the lot)
I don't know if you've ever responded to it, but I think you have to, at least to maintain your integrity. I think you simply need to explain how you separate say, Sly calling you and speaking with you to giving a review that's not biased. Or if it is, to admit it. Just think you should respond to it once and for all and have done with it. -
Aug 07, 2010 11:54:50 PM CDT
Colonel Activity fucks Obama look-a-likes....
by mjs_cold_dead_pale_corpse
with a strap on, because like most Dems he lacks male genitals
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LEOG needs advertising dollars!!!!
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I don't know about you dudes...but Here in Cali we call it "Beer".
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Aug 08, 2010 12:10:29 AM CDT
Colonel Activity...Whats wrong with using other peoples Viagra?
by conspiracy
Personally I'd go for the Chicks...but being a classic liberal...I won't judge... whatever floats your boat. And I say Bully for Rush, spreading the dough around in the third world...how else those miserable little fucks gonna earn money in the DR...besides it teaches a valuable lesson everyone should learn; "If you want to make a decent buck you gotta be ready to take a fuckin now and then."
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..ok, plastic cups. Was happy that after we left the movie marathon (alongside Harry) this morning, I was pleased to see a review before I went to work in the evening. Is it perfect? No, but it was fun. That's all I wanted from it, and that's what I got. I am a Kurt Russell fangirl, and would have loved to see him in it too. Ah well..
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Far too much vitriol expended on a just-for-fun movie. Movies are art and/or entertainment, both are subjective, different strokes, yadda-fuckin'-yadda. Nothing new under the sun. Let's go throw a frisbee around.
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Unless it's a euphemism, in which case said boner may potentially come in handy.
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No real comment...you just reminded me of Scarlett's breast milk, by which I mean breasts. And that made we wonder...why are we debating The Expendables when Scarlett's tits are far more deserving of dialogue?
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But i tend to avoid their forms of entertainment, lady gaga, queer eye, shit like that, it's nbot a phobia it's just not interesting or entertaining to me, that said. This scott pilgrim movie looks very gay. I know it's about a boy meet girl relationship where he has to defeat her 7 evil x boyfreinds. But it looks gay I'm thinking the guy who made it is probably gay as well. So I will avoid this movie. It should be a hit with the teenaged girls, and I guess the expendable is the reward for us pussy fuckers who have to suffer a sit through of SP. I know the guy who made it made shaun of the dead, yeah that was a good film. This one I'm not digging it at all. So enjoy SP defenders. Who cares if it wins the boxoffice. I don't.
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Well-played with the username-conversion-to-sex-organ, sir.
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Why do you judge so, TheJudger?
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A bet, or a personal cinematic fantasy?
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Now I finally understand the collective bitching of a thousand fanboys for an edit button.
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to care for your uvula...Saturday Night Live, 1977...
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Well done, and well remembered. Back when SNL had balls.
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Aug 08, 2010 12:53:14 AM CDT
Well said telemarketer, cheers! ;) Everyone fuck off...... NOW!
by nevertalksback
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Aug 08, 2010 12:54:15 AM CDT
Kubrick's 2001 is far more manly than Sly's work and it's rated
by stereotypical evil archer
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I must put use to it. Edgar is not gay. He's only nearly gay. I'm sorry. I can admit to being wrong and a prick. I like hot fuzz as well, so I like his stuff, but damn the concept of this movie and the funny fucking color play is very annoying to me. I know some people like that.
I judged it, I judge everything. I judged it all. It cant be unjudged only rejudged by you. Thus says "The Judger/Talkbacker for a day" whos finger points at all including himself. Sorry Ed, I just aint feeling it man. I could be wrong I'm only human, but for me for my pops, this expendables is the movie to go see. Everyone who has a dad, which film is your film. Some sappy teenybop romance/adventure pic wit lots of winks at pop culture/video games, or the expendables 80's action men on a mission flick. -
You have a point. Films in the 60's and 70's had a...rawness...to them that made them more organic, and "manly" than what we have now. Kubrick included. But it's an apples to oranges thing...Stallone is looking to recreate the nostalgia of the 80's action era. Kubrick was all about the aesthetic vs. the psyche.
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I'm from the east coast where we say soda. Last year I moved to the west coast, and have gone on several roadtrips across the country. I'd say from about the midwest on westward it's all pop or soda pop. I find it to be kinda cute. I can't speak on the South "soda pop lingo" having only been a couple of times.
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Aug 08, 2010 1:04:16 AM CDT
2001 also has an intermission, so Harry can pee and still see.
by stereotypical evil archer
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CA - We say Pepsi, Coke, etc. Brand names are king. If I want "pop" I'm looking for a bj.
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Aug 08, 2010 1:06:29 AM CDT
alluvialfan, I take oranges over apples, but those Fugi apples a
by stereotypical evil archer
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I was trying to be funny, man...didn't mean to be an ass!
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Sorry about the cut off.
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They really are. I don't know what your geo location is, but if you ever get out to CA, go to Tehachapi off the I-5. Best fucking Fugi apples ever.
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...I left my dorm room one evening but I forgot to put on deodorant. So I went back to put some on, and I found my roommate having sex with another dude while listening to "Close to Me" by The Cure. I asked, "What the hell are you doing?!" He said, "You were supposed to be gone all evening!" Then the two of them started beating the shit out of me. I didn't mind getting the shit beat out of me, though, because I was just praying to God saying "Please don't let them rape me," and they didn't. God is great!!!
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Dude, you could have had your ass raped by God's chosen! What the fuck is wrong with you?
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It means I was smart enough to be coming to AICN since or near it's inception (:p) and reading reviews, articles, spoilers and talkbacks without the desire to dive in to the ridiculous arguments in the talkbacks... until about 6 months ago. Then I got a username and have probably gotten dumber with every comment I've posted since. I think that's what it means. You want to know the stupid reason why I decided to start talking back. Herc had an article on all the premiere dates for TV shows in the spring and failed to mention one of my favorite cartoon show's return date, Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Yeah, I finally got a username so I could post the premiere date of ATHF. Yes I am aware I am retarded, i am ok with that ;)
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Aug 08, 2010 1:16:01 AM CDT
@alluvialfan, California, I'm a long ways away.
by stereotypical evil archer
I'm about as far from an ocean that one can get in North America. Winter is going to be a bitch this year.
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Well I'm up in Washington just outside Portland Oregon, I guess the pop rules are different in Cali... good rule though! :D
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I was actually just kidding, making an ironic comment out of your username. Which I now regret, realizing that six million idiots have probably made the same comment. So, joke's on me and my lack of originality. I apologize.
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Heh, no it's cool, no offense taken. Actually no one's ever commented before, generally me & my opinion are roundly ignored here :)
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Fair enough. To be quite honest, I just created an account (after viewing the site for a decade) about ten minutes ago. I guess the overeagerness took over. Fair call on your part.
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Mid-market rum + sandwich = (what the kids refer to as) WIN.
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Gotcha. Nuff said.
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... you are trying too hard to justify liking it, and gives the impression that it is a horrible film that you are trying to push as good. I'm sure that is not your intention, but it is actually putting me off the film a bit. I'll definitely be going to see it regardless.
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Aug 08, 2010 1:31:59 AM CDT
Hey! Harry! Here's some vital information for you!
by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights
Instead of writing a review straight onto the internet, how about opening up a word processor (such as Microsoft Word) and writing it in there first? Word processors usually have a nifty function called a 'spelling checker' which prevents massive errors in what you're writing. That way, you can then cut and paste the review onto the internet after you've made it readable.And then, people like me who get to "cheery on the top" in the first line of your review, won't give up there and then whilst thinking the rest is obviously going to be virtually unreadable.You're welcome, buddy!
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I luv you man, but given how ambitious Inception was, it at least deserves a review. You reviewed Twilight!
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And that movie was fucking awesome. So whats the point in bickering on a website before the movie has come out yet. Harry has seen it, he might actually be right, who knows...
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Is it me or have you yet to mention THE TYPE of sandwhich you are eating? Did I miss it? Are you building a mystery? :p
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Like a sandwich where, you had a date with Anne Heche, and you were like, bah, it's Anne Heche, but then she shows up all nymph-like, and she's got great post-lesbian tits, and you're like, fuck it, let's rock-and-roll like it's - and here's the kicker - like it's 1202?
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...a post-modernist sandwich. with no tits.
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Harry's review emphatically states that Sly pulled off exactly what he set out to accomplish ... and here come the "of course you rave about it; he's your buddy!"
so wtf ... he NOT supposed to be happy Sly did it?
"stooge", "sell out", yaddayaddayadda ... lemme get this straight: you all honestly believe that Harry is the ONLY movie critic who has friends in the industry? ... who reviews his friends' works?
Hey Harry, prove me right: review "Paradise Alley"; "Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot"; and "Rhinestone"
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Suppose his "integrity" is for sale. It's [ostensibly] been for sale for a long time. And, apparently, it's had no impact. So, why change?
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That was strangely...poetic...um...are you going to try to kill yourself with nonsensical strings?
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Aug 08, 2010 2:19:28 AM CDT
Hey Harry-Learn to use SPELLCHEK."Cheery" is spelled cherry . .
by jonchambers
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Aug 08, 2010 2:21:32 AM CDT
Harry - I will NEVER masturbate you!! GET OUT OF MY WORLD!!!!
by jonchambers
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With The Bonus Of Couture Vs. Stone Cold = Thats A Fight.Fair Play For The Toliet Break Confession,I Must Say That Was Tremendous Timing Sir,But Boy When You Gotta Go Etc.....Best Regards.
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Aug 08, 2010 2:46:40 AM CDT
Clearly I shouldn't have inquired about the contents of that san
by nevertalksback
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by saying the action scenes in Inception weren't vital, while praising the action scenes in Expendables, I'm now pretty confident I'm going to hate this movie. I'll give it a shot anyway, but now I'm really worried.
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Fuck the ASSHOLES who don't get the love you can have for an 80's action movie, there are millions of us who understand.
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Aug 08, 2010 3:34:38 AM CDT
This Review Was The Cheery On Harry's Spelling Cake!
by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights
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Harry's a boob.
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A whola lotta gutta!
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"INCEPTION is full of cinematic mastery. It reinvigorated my love for movies."Exactly.
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two ... two ... two things in one.
you can have the "art" action, like "V for Vendetta"
you can the "entertainment" action, like "Transporter"
some like the former; some like the latter; some like them both; some hate them both.
... but here's the most important part: EVERYONE IS RIGHT.
so stfu
ps: I may have a bias against anything Wachowski after they fisted The Matrix trilogy, but I didn't like "V" ... well ... not including Natalie in that little costume in that dude's bedroom (hubba, hubba) -
Hey brother, how are you? I read your coment about COMMANDo, and i ahve to disagree with you when you say the mvoie is deliberarly a parody of the action genre. Well, it might read like that today, in this era where there's movies which are made deliberatly parodic and self-referencially to the past. but truth is, COMMANDO is not a parody, evne if it looks one. COMMANDO is just a very badly made movie. there's no deliberate cheese, other then the oneliners, and even those were not done to look deliberatly silly but to look cool. COMMANDO as a movie is one of those that tries to compete directly with RAMBO 2, it's a clone of that movie, and it tries to suprass in coolness and bodycount. But what might had looked cool back in the day now look ridiculous and stupid beyond belief. This notiont that COMMANDO was deliberatly parodic is nonsense. The movie completly lacks any sense of self-awareness. It's just an exercise in trying to be the type of cool in acting movies that existed back then. And alike all slaves of fashion, they became fashion victims. COMMANDO is not a parody, it's just bad. It's it's badness that makes us laugh at, not any deliberate post-modern act from the movie. You know what was the first action moie form the 80s/90s that deliberatly went the parodic route of the genre? THE LAST ACTION HERO. And the action movie nerds hated it for exactly that.
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i also believe it takes itself 100% seriously, but it's still one of the most entertaining Arnie flicks out there, despite the opening father/daughter montage where arnie gets tickled, feeds bambie, eats ice cream and gets said ice cream shoved in his nose and teaches said daughter how to elbow punch.
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conversation during a healthy snack of a sandwich which "we don't wanna know" what's in it. looked tasty though. his daughter went on to star in the ground breaking sequel to Poison Ivy entitled poison Ivy 2.
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Aug 08, 2010 6:13:44 AM CDT
sorry guys but if you didnt like inception then...
by dioxholsterreturns
...you wont like anything else. better quite movies and stick to whatever else turns you on; video games, comics, porn, AICN TBs, etc.
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Comparing Sly's directing to John Ford's was the single greatest moment of this review.
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Aug 08, 2010 6:19:50 AM CDT
I really hope this is as good as it could be...
by that_girl_from_the_lowes_commercials_gar
But after the absolute SHITFEST known as "Rambo" got fellated all over this website... i fear this may be "Rambo" part deux.
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I agree with you about Inception... but weren't you the 'tard that used to troll the LOST talkback talking up STARGATE, the Television series, as if it was the GREATEST THING TO EVER APPEAR ON TELEVISION? I'd say your credibility, well, on ANYTHING, has been permanently revoked.
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Aug 08, 2010 6:25:28 AM CDT
Im partial to Nolan's action sequences ever since Batman begins
by dioxholsterreturns
ever since Batman Begins, I love the way he frames it and cuts between angles, it also has a fast beat to it but without shaky cam. Nolan's action seems to be more about conveying the "feel" of it rather than showing you. So to me the snow level wasnt boring at all, especially considering the stakes involved. If you thought the snow level was the weakest then it maybe because there was so much going on already on all 3 levels at the same time. Its very rare that we get this much action in an intellectual movie such as this one; only the Matrix did that before. So I thing there was something for everyone in this movie if Im not wrong.
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Aug 08, 2010 6:32:22 AM CDT
GARGANTUAN----Stargate TV shows are a diamond in the rough
by dioxholsterreturns
I dont expect you to like stargate because it also took me awhile to appreciate it. Inception is completely different however.
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and snow.
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debate. and curse aplenty.
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Great as i went to see A-team last week and loved every minute of it, but read reviews that slated it for poor editing and a bad script, it pissed me off even though i dont care what other people thought so i am now looking forward to this.
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Consider the source, friendos...
Obviously many are taken aback - WAY aback - about Harry's scrumdiddlyumptious comments about this film, of which he seems to be sucking the CORK on...for a film that is little more than a glorified last hurrah for all these 80s action heroes (well, most of them anyway), while including a couple of recent ones to keep things fresh with the younger audiences who don't give a damn about the 80s Action Movies.
From what I gathered, this was Stallone's intention all along...
We all know Stallone's BEST is Rocky Balboa. That needs no introduction.
But for what its worth, Harry does have the unfortunate luck of being caught in the game of Bias with this review - or anything that Stallone produces...
Its not his fault the two are buddies, so just take the review for what it is, watch it for yourselves, and make your own decision....
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When it comes to directing action scenes. Compare the bike chase scene in T2 to the armored care scene in the dark knight...
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Well, shit. What you said about Inception is SPOT-ON, as well as your remark about The Matrix... so there is apparently SOME good in you ;-) But i'm not sure if i totally buy your precious Stargate. Just seems way to cheesy/nerdy/fanboyish for me, like Xena: Warrior Princess, Buffy, Sea Quest, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, etc. Shit maybe i'm wrong, and it really is a great show, like Firefly or something. That is the one show i went into going "Yeah, i am gonna absolutely HATE his shit..." and boy, was i WRONG.
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and this TB is still going strong. Most Professional. Alright...off to the gym...I can't afford HGH like Sly.
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....Bruce Willis now shills his bald head to sell a brand of Polish Vodka that no one will ever buy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xL0MOIgtig&feature=player_embedded
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Harry: "So ... you're married."
Summer: "Yeah. Crazy, huh?"
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Hey brother, how you been? Well, i hope. Well, i'm going to disagree with you on the subject of though guys in INCEPTION, because nobody in that movie poses as one. They operate in dreamworlds, not in real world where they actually have to shoot people for real. Remember how Cobb was having a hell of a hard time shaking his tails until Sato saved him? Also, remember, in the movie the team almost panics when they realise how harder the usual the protective projections of the mark is, so much so that they know that they wouldn't last much in the first dream level and they had to go to a futher down level to seep things up. They were supposed to be a week in their dream world, but they so speed up proceduals considerably. They are not though guys acting though, they are professionals. They are like the impossible Mission team of the old TV show, when MI was supposed to be a thriller and not an over-the-top action movie to satisfy Tom Cruise's inflated ego.
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That's how you present team work in a movie about a team doing their thing. Even though Cobb is the de facto start and everythign turns around him, still the movie presents everythign as a teamwork where everybody is essencial. In fact the two major action scenes in the movie are not about Cobb himself, nor is Cobb involved, but it's performed by Joseph Gordon-Hewitt and Tom Hardy. That's teamwork! Tom cruise and the assclowns involved in his Mission Impossible movies would had much to learn with INCEPTION.
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And yet Cameron admires and respects Nolan and personally congratulated Nolan for his movie INCEPTION. How about that, hem? You funboys trying to putdown Nolan by pulling out Cameron is just too desperate and wrong. Cameron likes Nolan, that's it, deal with it.
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He was on set all the time it seems, is gonna be one the behind the scnenes doc, was with them on stage at comic con and is BFF's with Sly. This movie could have been terrible (and most other reviews make it sound like it is) and Harry would still give it the best review ever. I stoped taking your reviews seriously a long, long time ago Harry.
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SUPERMAN RETURNS = good but flawed. Could had been much better. But hardly the terrible shit that many in here make it out to be. The way many go against it here is out of proportion.
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I am disappointeded that this kind of assfuckery is still being made today. We live in a world of Nolan now and in Nolan we trust. Movies should be cereberal and thats what this movie is missing. Cereberal! Stallone is fast becoming the new Jar Jar Abrams and that is a BAD THING. Geekry shouldn't have to stand for it but then they stood for Emo Trek didnt they?Respect!
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In Stallone we do not. Hem?Respect!
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I don't think anybody takes Harry's reviews anymore (which is why so many are suprised when he occasionaly does a more thoughful and rational review). But we read Harry's review because we are interested in what he has to say, even if we don't take him seriously, we find his stream of conscious type reviews entertaining (when they aren't deliberate dick sucking jobs), and because it is his job, to provide reviews. He has to provide reviews, that's what he does, or what he should.
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Man without a life of his own, why do you even bother, zombie-boy? Isn't there some internet porn you should be watching right now? This movie stuff is way beyond your capacity.
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Just brilliant.
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who goes to these movies? Tom Cruise ruined it when he decided to have long hair, climb a mountain for some spy sunglass self-destruct thing and have a car race over a cliff for no apparent reason. And IM3, judging from the trailers, looked stale storywise and had very uninspired action. The last good tom cruise movie was Minority Report, it was also the last good Spielberg movie; good concept, good execution, horrible ending. it also does have one big plothole but it doesnt matter much.
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What...In...The...Hell
"Me. I'm afraid I was eating fresh Hummus and pita bread during this. Not sure why I went Vegan on this film - I just think that had I actually had RED MEAT or anything crazy manly... like a rack of ribs to eat - or a Turkey Leg... my god. You might as well masturbate too. I was trying to hold back, but I love this movie."
Harry, I know you wanted to "pound this out" as quickly as you could, but come on! I know I'm just dreaming that you might proofread one day or make sure that your analogies are logical. I know you have always painted this site (I've been following since almost the beginning) as not your normal movie review site. I understand that this is for those who get unbridled joy in movies, not for those who want stuffy, academic analysis. But to be simply unreadable and impossible to understand is too much. The ghost of Moriarty is spinning in his Drew McWeeny grave. -
I hope it lives up to your review. I love all these guys and it would be fun to see a Cannon or Golan-Globus type homage with real tough guys instead of turds like Tom Cruise trying to act tough, which is laughable. Maybe this will spawn a new generation of action films that are entertaining and not shit like Max Payne and Hitman.
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VALKYRIE was very good too, but the movie is helped that Cruise is surroundee by some of the best british and german actors alive, not to mention that talented dutch hottie Carice Van Houten.
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Stop with your assfuckery. You are living in a dream world if you think this movie is on the same cereberal level as Nolan's moviess. You are no more than the Jar Jar Abrams of the talkbacks here.IN NOLAN WE TRUST.Respect, brother!
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The problem for me about MINORITY REPORT is the ending. It's so tackled, so forced, so happy-ending hammered, so completly out of tune with the rest of the movie, and in the end, so cowardly and disapointing. The ending prevents MINORITY REPORT to achieve greatness. It could had been so much better. Because until the ending, for the most part the movie is cinematic bliss. Spielberg gained a terrible problem in ending his movies. Of his recent movies, the only movie he made where the end is as it is and he ended his ovie exactly as it should was MUNICH, which works as an exceptional exception, pardon the pleonasm.
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Whatever.
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Is a great action flick...and when people review an film based on a trailer, well its fucking stupid. Although MI2 was pretty crap.
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He's a competent filmmaker but that's about it. BB and TDK and Inception were edited poorly and had a number of flaws. He's just not that skilled of a CRAFTSMAN when it comes to making movies. It matters to me even if it doesn't matter to you.
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Nolans makes cerebral movies for a cerebral audience like me. His movies engage your brain! There is no assfuckery like with Jar Jar Abrams. We need more movies caterring to a cereberal audience and less like The Expendables which is made for the AsimovLives type of audience member who doesnt like the cerebral>,p>Respect brother!In NOLAN we TRUST!
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Does Frank Stallone wail, I mean sing, anything for this film? It would be...special if he did.
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all are better for a number of things, chief of which is guys die. You never knew when someone was someone was going to die and that made the movies better. Course Stallone is going back to his playground of 80s cartoon action flicks (one liners, bad explosions, bad acting, etc). Wish Stallone had decided to emulate the above movies and then the expendables would be of interest to me. Throw in the Dogs of War as another movie would emulating.
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the problem I have with it is that its one of those political commentary movies like syriana and they end up being forgettable no matter how good they are. Spielberg sure had lousy endings, AI being probably the most unfortunate, recent ones like War of the Worlds and Indy5 also had sucky endings. I remember him saying that he shoots two endings and decides which to choose after editing. and that he likes to work on two movie projects at the same time. if you ask me, these are the reasons his endings suck. when are we gonna see that Carice Van Houten again? I have this Dorian Gray quality where I fancy hot female actors whi can actually act over lifeless models or masked adult stars.
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But for decades american stars have selling all sorts of crap overseas for years. But yeah, that vodka really looks nasty.
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well i wasnt gonna spend my money on another FAIL from tom cruise. All i had to see was JJ abrams getting excited over some tom cruise tossed to the ground and thats it. LIKE YEAH WE FINALLY GET TO SEE TOM CRUISE TOSSED TO THE GROUND BY BACKGROUND EXPLOSION! YEAH!
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Isn't that sort a semi regular method to shoot movies in the business? Course depends on the type of movie being shot. As you mentioned Spielberg does that but I was under the assumption that others do it too.
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that your opinion but you cant go on to label Nolan as over-rated or something, because right about now I dont know any other director who made movies recently who is at Nolan's level. Everytime and again he manages to impress us no matter how much hype is behind his movies. I bet James Cameron right now is regretting the decision to stupify AVATAR, that 6 years in the making movie had the depth of a Disney Wall-E kinda story. No doubt hes making massive changes to AVATAR 2 based on audiences' reaction to Inception.
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That's why i worship @ the temple of the choppah, for the truth!
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SCOTTPILGRIMFAN SUCKS MY BALLS!
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Cameron is making changes to his in-process story of Avatar2 but not because of Inception,but because of his recent experience with the natives of the Amazon.
The King himself says so in his interview,he gave 2 days ago:
http://bit.ly/aMRP50
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hey we gotta put our booze somewhere,
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what the fuck do you care?
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I didnt say he was gonna make it about dreams instead. Directors influence each other more than you can imagine. and JC really fucked up with AVATAR in my opinion, you cant watch that movie again without cringing.
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I cant really say for sure. All I know that writers are told to know the exact ending before pitching the premise. Not knowing how to end a story at the early stages can be a problem. Because any ending you come up with later will feel out of place. maybe alot of directors shot different endings but Im not sure if they do different ones for cinematography purposes or story changes. I know some movies that screened different endings to test which one works better before release.
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...incoherent mess of a dribble from the ginger fool.
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a chance to reply to the "Commando is a parody" comment.We have discussed it about this in another talkback,and i will give you the same answer and argument: Commando is not trying to be a parody,its not trying to ridicule its movie genre deliberately in a very obvious and humorous way like Naked Gun or Hot Shots are doing.What Commando is doing is not to take itself very serious because it acknowledges its cheesiness but it also understands that it is the selling point for the movie.
The arguments? Its an Arnie movie and Arnie's movies were always about selling their chessiness,it was what the 80s audience wanted and expected from him: Big extraordinary fights,one liners,cool,ultra macho,bigger than life attitude and presence from his part,one-dimensional baddies going down because the justice in the 80s was always being served by ass-kicking and all these things that made the 80s action genre so lovable in its time.
Commando is the epitome of Arnie's 80s cheesy action genre,its the Magnum Opus of the 80s cheesy action genre.
Compare Commando with Rambo2 which is a movie which was trying to be serious in a political and dramatic way.Look the differences.The baddies in Commando are caricatures of your typical generic Latin dictatorship country.In Rambo2 the baddies are Vietnamese thus they have a political definition,they are sadists and inhumane,taking their role very seriously and having joy in exploiting the Vietnam prisoners and torturing Rambo.
In Commando Arnie's daughter is kidnapped but we dont get anywhere any dramatic scene where Anie's showcases his inner emotional of agony and pain and pain for trying to find his kidnapped daughter.The audience doesn care about this,because it is an Arnie movie and Arnie is going to kill everyone for taking his daughter as he clearly says so in the beginning of the movie.and the movie delivers exactly THAT.
But with Rambo2 we do get scenes with dramatic tension: The killing of that Vietnamese hottie (which had a character development in the discussion scenes with Rambo,in opposition of Chong's character in Commando which was pure comic relief) and Rambo getting revenge for it,when the CIA agent abandons Rambo with the prisoner he was carrying,and finally when Rambo saves the prisoners but one dies in the helicopter and then Rambo says to Truman to give the metal to the prisoner because they are heroes.All that american drama-patriotic bullshit but the point that all these things were done very seriously.
And ofc the most obvious argument that Commando acknowledges its ridiculousness,is in the Hotel sequence when Arnie is fighting Billy Duke and they burst into the next room where the naked couple is (after Duke had shoot his gun several times) and Chong says: "These people are in the next room and they didnt hear the shotguns?.They must eat too much read meat"
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Aug 08, 2010 11:34:31 AM CDT
"Thank You For The Check, Mr. Stallone!" Said The Obese Ginger M
by laserpants
"You're movie's SO great!"
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and i have watched Avatar 100 times and no cringing at all.so you are wrong again.
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Duh.
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to me and thats what I was confusing. The changing of the ending after it getting a bad response from a test audience. Thanks. You sure know you have a strong movie background.
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"For the record, I expect SCOTT PILGRIM to be the best film of the summer" Harry Knowles.
Just saw TOY STORY 3 yesterday. For me, a 5 outta 5 movie. Fantastic. I'd also give INCEPTION 5 stars on the Dojo scale.
I'd be pleasantly suprised, nay flabbergasted, if SCOTT PILGRIM exceeds either of them and turns out to be THE BEST MOVIE OF THE SUMMER. But also, how ridiculous for a critic to name his 'best film' as one he hasn't even seen yet (and by his own admission knows little about). -
Aug 08, 2010 12:27:51 PM CDT
i liked inception better when it had a green tint
by oksanas_chipped_tooth
and was called the matrix.
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Seriously, did anyone expect a negative review of this film after Sly's Q&A?
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Can anyone explain why Stallone's face and bone structure look so waxy/rubbery? Is that steroids, plastic surgery or just being old as dirt?
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I like action as much as the next guy, when it's rooted in story and the characters are going somewhere. But most 'action' films are just pornography - titillation for the brain-dead. 'Look, we can blow a guy in half, cool'. People need to grow up.
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Think it steroids because doesn't body normally lose muscle mass, skin tone and healthy look naturally and Stallones taking stuff back in the day only make it worse than what a guy his age should look.
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The moment those guys appear together on screen in the sequel, cinemas around the world will explode, because it is not possible to contain such sheer awesomeness in one frame. The trailers for the movie will have to show these guys separately or else no one will be able to make it alive to see the movie
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are bashing stallone and his wrinkles/aging/bringing back 80's action. When that 64 year man could snap off any off any of your skinny geek necks with ease.
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and I'm in. Although Russells Big Trouble in Little China is a guilty pleasure. Soldier was bad but enjoyable bad.
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...when fucking Oksana, he wouldn't have most of the troubles he has now. Likewise, if he had just urged her to abort the baby. Unfortunately for him, he's Catholic. That must cause a lot of inner turmoil for the guy. The religion which is supposedly the center of his universe is now the root of many of his problems. Then again, if he wasn't a nutcake, he wouldn't have these problems to begin with.
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Aug 08, 2010 1:10:38 PM CDT
Jehovas witness I want more of you're obscure ramblings ...
by jackgraham
like the one where you said something about slivering out of harrys rectum.
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Mel's too busy making art films like Edge of Darkness. He has no time for tired, cliched action films.
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I hate to say this, bocos so many reccomended I watch it, but I never wayched it. It was on very late, but I have added it to my rental list on Love Film.Com, and will see it soon.
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mel gave a decent performance but it's really nothing we havn't seen him do before. the film ended so abruptly too. if all he had to do was enter the bad guys mansion and shoot em all the film could have been cut by 60 mins. and what was with that ending where dead mel and dead daughter walk out the hospital ward together. weird and out of place for an action thriller.
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It's not going anywhere.
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is the first stage of nu-64 goldeneye. I just hope none of you nerds missed that or I'd have to kill you all. It was nolans favorite game
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I didn't even watch the whole thing. Was in a hotel room, and got bored and went to sleep. Mel also looked like he was pissed drunk during the filming of it, and not as part of any method acting. I was looking forward to it because the trailer looked like a return to angry Mel...but it was more like disintegrating Mel.
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...the snow scene from the Bond classic "For Your Eyes Only". Roger Moore on skis. Doesn't get much better than that.
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Love Film.Com always send the oldies before the new releases. I recently received Nighthawks and Extreme Prejudice, two 80's films i had never seen before. I found Prejudice to be a bit crap beyond the shootouts, and despite Nighthawks being rather dated, I enjoyed it more, despite laughing at Sly in a wig at the end.
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Mel's balding scalp and cigarette creased face gave the best performance. The film was a completely useless, soul killing waste of time.
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...during the Roger Moore snow scene...automatically makes that the best snow scene ever. Ever.
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They should have used the original title--Serpico, Part II.
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I thought the snow scene was a tribute to CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE. The girder bridge that the car falls off is also identical to one of the COD levels.
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...for you youngsters who missed it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qdIBJ97W6g
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Let's not forget the wonderful opening action scene in True Lies where apparently a large Bavarian stunt man in a wool wig doubled for Arnold.
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unlike the opening of moores a view to a kill, in which he ski's to the tunes of the beach boys and looks like a 100 years old.
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A Part of it is aging. I know. I'm 56 and these things happen.Also, although not a real boxer etc, Stallone has taken quite a beating in his films, and has usually done most of his own stnuts. However, It's has been ALLEGED that he used growth hormone (HGH). Unlike steroids, which were mentioned, HGH causes growth--it is the hormone that makes you grow. It is not tissue specific (steroids are--specific to muscle tissue, for the most part). HGH can cause bone growth--but if you are fully grown, what bones can now grow, since the plates of all the normal "growth (height) bones are closed? The fingers and facial bones and tissue--an extreme side effect of HGH overdose is Acromegaly or Giantism, and a lantern like jaw and "Frankenstein" forehead are two of the most obvious symptoms (think Tom "Lurch" Cassidy or Richard "Jaws" Keil, both of whom had the condition). Now, Stallone MAY have a mild case of this from that IF HE ACTUALLY USED IT. It is, it should be mentioned, a legitimate form of HRT for a man over 50, so there are more than a few men out there who have legally indulged in this.All that being said, the man is in UNBELIEVABLE condition. As MANZILLA said above,he puts those of you who are one third his age to shame, since we are discussing appearance here.And whether or not the speculation I mentioned is true is irrelevant. By 64, anything he's taking (if he is) is just having the same affect as what's in a 20 something's body naturally, so all you youngin's--no excuses. The man's you're grandpa, and he can kick your ass--badly.
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Maybe it's a great action movie, maybe not; I haven't seen it, but plan to eventually; it's got a load of great action heroes doing action-movie stuff. So, of course I'll see it eventually. (Though I'll probably wait for the DVD or the OnDemand showing.)
What I find amusing -- and Harry demonstrated some this in his review -- is the whole "Yeeeeah, grrr, I'm a manly masculine MANLINESS man!" phenomenon that seems pervasive in our modern culture, the need--nay, hunger-- that men seem to have to directly and exclusively equate their existential identity with their sexuality and masculinity. It makes more sense to equate your identity with your intellect, yet the whole "let's be manly men!" craze seems to be decidedly anti-intellectual in nature. What, are these macho manly man so bereft of any brains that they have to equate their essential selves with the size of their cock and balls?
For Christ sakes, give it a rest. We get it, you're macho, now get the fuck over it and grow the fuck up. Yeah, Bruno, you're a real man's man, but you're dumb as a goddamned brick. Congratulations, Bruno, you've entered the land of intellectual inferiority ... What? What's that? Oh, sure ... I *would* like fries with that. -
that one day doing while doing weights as a youngster in high school, think it was bench pressing and the weights fell on his face. that is the story that i heard a long time ago.
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Aug 08, 2010 1:45:10 PM CDT
alanmoore, I think it could be described as armchair manliness
by jehovahs_witness
Fatties with breasts bigger than Pamela Anderson and more estrogen than Oprah needing to watch this film in order to feel like a man.
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Aug 08, 2010 1:49:31 PM CDT
For Those of You Bitching About "The Expendables..."
by read and shut up
...put your sister's dress on, drink a cherry-tini and drag your pansy ass to "Eat, Pray, Love." And then go home and watch your entire "Sex and The City" DVD collection. Oh, and then fuck off.
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I want to see Stallone and Seagal make a buddy comedy where, instead of trading bodies, they trade wigs. Wackiness ensues!
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Sailor Rip said: "I visit this site every day but it's mostly for the talkbackers."That says it all, Sailor Rip. I used to come here for news to satisfy the geek side of me. Now, I only come for the talkbackers... I will say, though--at least Harry has a clear passion for all things movies--regardless of his biases or motivations... The pathetic part of this site belongs to Coax and Herc. He uses Coax to scam money from the talkbackers he loathes by promoting what we can buy on amazon and its no secret he gets a cut. He refuses to give great shows a chance and is just spiteful of the talkbackers. He loves to say 'well then go elsewhere' but doesn't understand that there really isn't another site that has the kind of talkbackers this place does. Herc is a grade a douche and I would give my right nut to beat the shit out of him in person--probably by luring him to, i don't know, the docks or something, by promising Whedon will be present--ready and willing to let Herc suck his dick.
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for it's that time. the time when one talkbacker aka me, asks you, what is, the best, film, ever, made?
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Gotta be Rhinestone.
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I couldn't resist. My sarcasm is endless.
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flawed but good,a lot better than the rest of the crapfest that Hollywood produces.
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I mean, I have twitter now so I can get ANY TYPE OF UPDATE from that by followin the right people instead of going to several different sites to get the same news. And with aicn, everythig I loved about it has been bought off by amazon, eli roth, and whatever the hell is austin s...but the tbers, you guys are some assholes who likes the same things as me (or hate in most situations) so that makes you cool peoples with me...BUT I hate first time posters, long time lurkers...stay lurkers, you usually add nothing but "I just joined just to say..."...no one cares. Keep up the good work the hardworking TBers!
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but it does contain Stallone singing a song called 'Drinking-stein'. And lets not forget 'The Day my Baby Died'....'There was blood on the corn, and brains on the hay...a-haaaaaay!'
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Sorry but I dunno anything else could say...maybe Dark Knight?
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Some guy at the top felt the need to tell us how he got to suck on some titties last night. I love it here.
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Aug 08, 2010 2:20:25 PM CDT
The Rhinestone director also directed Porky's 1 and 2
by jehovahs_witness
And oddly enough, A Christmas Story.
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And The Warriors. Two faves which never really got the recognition they deserved when they came out. Remo was supposed to be a series of films like the Bond series, but that was some awesomeness that never came to light. And The Warriors was actually pulled from theaters because gang members were killing each other, so movie chains got nervous.
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Manzilla wrote that cameron directs better action than nolan does (very true) It may be that Cameron respects Nola and likes inception, but the fact of the matter is Cameron is a master of directing action scenes, I can list many scenes but im sure you know the ones of which I talk. I didn't think nolan could direct coherehent action before inception and nothing has changed with inception.
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SlyAndTheFamilyStallone said: "Some guy at the top felt the need to tell us how he got to suck on some titties last night. I love it here."That was funny. I lived in a frat house at USC for three years and got my more than fair share, but the one common thing that all the closers had in common was that they never talked about it--everyone knew who was getting the job done--and to add to it, nobody ever felt the need to go online and tell people about their conquests... its just pointless and not the sign of a real closer. I come to this site for the geek in me, and I live my real life for the guy in me. Talking about your sex life just shows that you're too proud of it, and being too proud of it means (most of the time) that you're not getting it done on a regular basis. Even in real life, if someone feels the need to talk about hooking up, they're either lying or greatly exaggerating as well as compensating.
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Despite his terrible later films, Black Christmas is a classic.
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Sex drive, repo man, ateam, losers, rules of attraction, hook, tf 1 and 2, faculty, from dusk til dawn, big hit, xmen 3, spiderman 3, southland tales (yea I said it!), and of course inception...cmon on fellas, show these movies love!
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BOUAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAH AHAHAAHHAHAHA
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With the exception of Repo Man and Inception.
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The snow scenes in INCEPTION are an hommage to ON HER MAGESTY'S SECRET SERVICE, and we know this because Nolan said so in interviews, he calls it his favorite Bond movie and one of the best. Which i also think it is, one of the top best Bond ever mad,e and fortunatly, it's now getting some of the recognition it deserves. About bloody time!
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I can enjoy genre movies for what they are meaning if I see a xmen movie, I wanna see battles with powers with a lot of mutants. Sure there was a lot of deaths, ut I'm sure characters routinely die in the funnybooks like a asshole contributor to aicn coaxial would say
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Duce, are you kidding? REPO MAN is a genre classic and much beloved by geeks and critics alike since the day it was released. And onlt general audiences and stuopud geeks dislike RULES OF ATTRACTION, the movie got a very good acceptance by the critic community as well.
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i saw it recently and its edited so quickly, especially during its hand to hand fight scenes, its edited so that it appears they are fighting in fast forward. quite funny, and very dated looking.
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BLACK CHRISTMAS is indeed very good. I saw the remake forst, but after i saw the original i don't even remember the remake anymore. Of course it helps liking the originakl movie because it stars Olivia Hussey at the height of her beauty. God, she was gorgeaus beyond belief!
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But good to hear people like em...makes me feel less weird rewatchin RoA everytime it comes on
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Nolan has said so in his interviews and OHMSS is indeed one of the best JB movies.it was under-appreciated when it was released but fortunately it is becoming a cult classic among the JB fans now.btw Moby has made a great remix of the excellent music theme from that movie (which is one of Barry's best music themes),tube might have it.
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They did do that back then, they did speed up the images in the fight and car chases sequences for a long time, into the 80s. You can see that in the two first Mad Max movies, for instance. It fell in disuse in the80s when editors started using slow motion to disguise the lack of real fast movements from a star and stunts in fights and action shootouts and chases. But if that speed up stuff in ON HER MAGESTY'S SECRET SERVICE bothers you (and in that movie is used very, very subtly and very restrained in comparison to the fashion of the day), then you better never watch THUNDERBOLT, because that's the bond movie that sins the most in that regard. The reason why, editingwise ON HER MAGESTY'S SECRET SERVICE is so clearly put together and with such a spphisticated editing for a Bond movie of that time is because director Peter Hunt was a director himself. also the movie is claimed to have the best dressed James Bond in the saga, andthe director attributes that to himself, because he was a very sharp dresser and made Bond dress like himself. And i believe him, because he certainly was quite a dandy. He even has a Hitchcockian cameo right at the start of the movie in a reflection on a plaque.
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Too right about what you said about the music of OHMSS. also, notiuce that the movie doesn't feature the traditional Bond theme in the action scenes, but it's replaced by the movie's recurent leitmotif theme. It helps that it's such a brillant composition. And i also really like the uniqueness in OKMSS in that it's the only Beond movie that opens without a theme song. I love that. OHMSS is also the most realistic of the Bond movies, there's nothing that happens in it that one couldn't see or know form happening in real life. Hell, remember that scene when Bond had to break in a safe? It takes him hours even with the aid of an electronic device, so long he has time to have some tea, eat biscuits and read a magazine. And again it's realistic, because an electronic device that could crack a safe code would take that long. How i love that movie.
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erm. thanks man, i'm gonna appreciate its editing style now bcos now i know its the sharpest dressed bond film. ;)
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Tell us about your last sexual encounter, in detail. What she looked like naked, whether you sucked on her titties, what it felt like. You know...guy stuff.
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The sharp dressing stuff was just trivia, man. I love to know this kind of stuff, besides the director said so in his audio comentary.
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... is that parts of the film were shot and set in my country Portugal, inclusing tthe final scene, which was shot in the Serra da Arrabida, about 25 kilometters from where i live.
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... is that parts of the film were shot and set in my country Portugal, including the final scene, which was shot in the Serra da Arrabida, about 25 kilometters from where i live.
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As for COMMANDO, yougive that movie too much credit. you think the so-called parody elements were deliberate put into the movie and it was made on porpose as a smart-alec coment on the action genre of the time? Thing is, the action movies as we now call the 80s action movies were just begining right aboutn that time. The 80s Action Movies didn't started at January 1st 1980. In fact, it al started specifically with RAMBO II. that was the first of them all, the first action movie ever made where the action sequence no longer where there to support and advance the plot, but they were there for their own sake. actionfor action sake. When action sequences became over-stretched and where nothing regarding story and characterization was done to inform us about anything aboutt he story and characters that could only he told through action. The main important characteristic of an 80s Action Movie is that, action for action sake. muck like in pornography there's sex for it's own sake, and the rest is just filler. The 80s Action movie started about 1984 and ended at around the early 90s, when more glossy production values, bigger budgets and actors with recognizable acting abilities started to command action movie vehicles in lieu of the old beekcakes. The mvoie COMMANDO was made merely one year after the whole 80s Action movie shabang starte,d so that movie had no distancing enough to make puns and parody on a genre that had barely started. What you think is deliberate parodic welements in the movie is just bad writing done on the spot. COMMANDO has a script that's little more then a filmed first draft. That movie was done in a hurry. Writen on the fly, very short pre-production, made by a producer who was starting his carrer on his own after he had left the shadow of his mentor Lawrence Gordon, and they used a hired gun director. and mroe importantly, they used Arnold as the lead. Now, Arnold bakc then was not the Arnold we know today, the mega-star. Back then Arnold was a soemwhat recognizable big muscle guy, better know still as the body-builder who played Conan and the villain in The Terminator. But he was untested as a leading man on a modern day action movie where he was to play a hero. Arnold back then was a poor's man Sylvester Stallone. He was a bargain basement Sly, the guy with muscle you would get on the cheap if you could get the much expensive mega-star Stallone. So, with all those things in consideration, the last thing that was in the minds ofthe people who made COMMANDop was to waste time to put ironic satirical remarks about the action genre of the day. The movie is as goofy as it is because it was done on the quick and tried it's hardest to surpass in cool whatever Sly had done before, but on a budget. If COMMANDO has something, it's an incredible lack of self-consciousness. The movie is not satirical, it's just daft, very daft.
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His review of the the film or the reaction of said review....
But I do know this much.....
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Started at 5 this morning and finished at 8.30 this evening. Greatest film ever made- The Searchers with John Wayne. Truly a thing of beauty and excellence. Asi- so all of these years I have harboured the incorrect impression that Commando was smarter than it is? Bah! If I watch it again I will never be able to look at it in the same light, just for what it is- a poorly acted big balls action movie. Erm, what's not to like about that????
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This is the Fanboy problem, and it relates to a lot of cultural issues in our country currently. We fall in love with a memory, or an ideal, some kind of image, an illusion, which was not, is not, and never will be real. Now, I know movies are about dreams, etc., etc., but this review barely touched on the film itself, instead going on and on about what the filmmakers were "aiming for" or "trying to achieve". That is not art, that is the motive behind it, which has now almost become more important than the work. One last bit of advice -- Harry, if you want to appreciate and criticize film better, step back from them. For like, a year or two. Do some LIVING for awhile.
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Harry's "review" of Middle Men was almost entirely about how he remembered the mid nineties and what it was like to have a website back then and next to nothing about the film itself. The grade school level grammar and spelling mistakes are inexcusable for a grown up who's not mentally challenged. Then there's the shameless shilling...
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Because I like to look at a girl's face during sex...I guess I'm a romantic like that. Not a big fan of doggie style because one time this one girl had a tuft of hair coming out of her anus like she was hiding a troll doll in there. I felt like I was going to vomit.
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because frankly you have misread everything that i have written there.
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No matter how much you shoot your goo when writing a review, be coherent. Rambling on about meaningless shit that only you care about and trying to be a hip, obscure "hey look at me I'm a film geek like QT" phrase turner gets us nowhere. Nor does referring to your past as a foundation for why a film is good. Bullocks.
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Olivia Hussey was indeed as tasty as candied yams.
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Your a douche bag..Nobody cares about your shit site.
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what do you do that requires you to work such horrendous hours? Ive never seen The Searchers.
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i think i'm laughing so hard bcos i can relate to the follwoing comment made by jehova ...."one time this one girl had a tuft of hair coming out of her anus"
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Aug 08, 2010 4:57:46 PM CDT
So there IS gonna be an Inception review?
by harryknowlesnonexistentinceptionreview
I'm holding you to that! Once it appears, I'll even drop this handle and go back to my original one... promise. Now get your 16 hours of sleep and get on that review, Big Guy!
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Aug 08, 2010 5:03:58 PM CDT
I like that Harry hasn't reviewed Endless Exposition Dream Movie
by flip63hole
It was a fucking joke. I honestly walked out during the exposition dream sequence in Hoth. Guess what: people shooting at each other, having discussions, laying their heads on railroad tracks IN DREAMS has NO DRAMATIC EFFECT.
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i like OHMSS alot. it's one of the best bond films. i wish george lazenby had made more. i thought he was a great bond. he even looked like a true scotsman in a kilt. my favourite bond film out of all would be From Russia with love, with OHMSS second and Casino Royale 3rd.
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Aug 08, 2010 5:14:54 PM CDT
I must be getting old: I was playing solitaire on my iPhone
by flip63hole
during the Matrixy no-gravity sequence in Inception. Who was fighting who and why was I supposed to care? Hard to call a dream crime movie where people shoot dream bullets at generic dream characters as being an action film. Kick Ass > Inception. Last Chris Nolan movie I bother seeing...
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i love roger moores eyebrows. and his smirk whenever he faces jaws. and i love his humour, even though his james bond is often considered the weakest. i like that he didnt take it too seriously, it suited him. he often made me laugh and he was the bond i grew up with. i will always have a soft spot for old roger. even if he did share a bed with man lady grace jones when he was 120 years old.
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But I think Inception packed a bit of an emotional punch, largely through DiCaprio's performance. I mean, it's no (500) Days of Summer, but then again what is, but for a Nolan flick it was aiite.
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I haven't seen Inception yet but I still declare it an "Oscar-calibre-tour-de-force." I can't wait for the sequel, Conception. After I see Inception I plan to buy the soundtrack and the novelization and the poster, which will make me an expert. The world will then have to defer to me.
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I don't think this is SNAKES ON A PLANE time, as the movie is tracking huge, but Harry's review does sound like it will guarantee that he stays on Sly's Christmas card list.
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you're not alone. i was thinking about what to have for dinner throughout alot of Inception, and then it dawned on me ... steak and fries.
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i know how you feel buddy. so did you make another sandwich?
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i know how you feel buddy. so did you make another sandwich?
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my eyes were wetting up when Cobb finally saw his kids faces, but that well earned melodramatic moment was instantly raped by Nolan's final shot, leaving us all, forever, in limbo.
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Total film gave it two out of five, Empire gave it three but said you'd be disappointed....
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So Cameron is making massive changes to Avatar 2 based on Inception's plot, eh? Aside from the two films being apples and oranges, why the fuck would he be doing that when Avatar is likely to cross $3 billion dollars next month and received equal critical acclaim? Avatar 2 was always intended to be more complex once the original had laid the groundwork.P.S. You can't be an irritating troll expounding about the virtues of that Stargate Universe vomit for years on end, and then suddenly switch to 'normal' posts, expecting to be taken seriously. Ya fucking dip.
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Cameron has updated on producing At the Mountains of Madness, the Avatar novel, shooting Avatar 2 and 3 back-to-back, and what will be contained in the upcoming special edition. This news has been over every major website for two days, but you can expect Merrick to post a half-hearted blurb tomorrow. Along with the missing Inception review, and the relentless shilling of Pilgrim in place of actual cool news that people give a shit about, this site really is an absolute joke these days. The talkbacks are the only reason to visit, and have been since about 2002, but then we all knew that anyway.
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what are we to do with you? I am looking forward to the Expendables, have been since I heard about it, ignored most reviews for it so far but decided to read yours, OK you liked it but for the love of god Harry, Please stop with the masturbating talk, it makes you sound like a right twat (with weird sexual kicks)
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"Avatar 2 was always intended to be more complex once the original had laid the groundwork"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA That's hilarious.
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Aug 08, 2010 5:55:49 PM CDT
I thought Avatar was a 2 1/2 star movie but....
by mjs_cold_dead_pale_corpse
Trannyformers_Apologist is a 5 star Pedophile.
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Cameron in my reply to Dioxs' comments about Inception and Avatar.
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Aug 08, 2010 5:56:49 PM CDT
He has his own personal stable of Catamites
by mjs_cold_dead_pale_corpse
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wazup troll? how is life in your basement? moisty and dark as always? i heard that this year your summer vacation will be a bit more bold and crazy than last year: you are actually going to visit the first floor of your parents house,not just the ground floor.!! you are indeed living the life to your limits pal. anyway have a nice summer time mate,until ofc Avatar's August re-release which i suppose we will have the delight of having you then back.cheerio.
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Aug 08, 2010 6:08:30 PM CDT
AsimovLives, you're way off about Commando
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
And also the popular belief that it was a rip off of Rambo 2. Commando was in production before that movie even came out. And no, it was not a winking parody like Last Action Hero, but it definitely has a fully intentional tongue-in-cheek quality, quite different to the po-faced seriousness of Stallone's movie. It was always so with Arnold, always the most self-reflexive and self-mocking of action stars, and the key quality that separated him from Sly. This was his popular persona even then, because many people knew him as a cult star from the bodybuilding documentary Pumping Iron, years before his filmmaking career took off. And in that documentary, he displays much of that mischievous wit and charisma for which he was later known. He brought those qualities into his persona in this movie for the first time. Commando is a thoroughly stupid movie, but its apparent to anyone with any kind of intuition that it was made to be humorous (NOT the same thing as ironic self-reflexion on the action genre) and entertaining, a completely different tone from the utterly humorless jingoism and earnestness of Rambo 2, which was definitely meant to be taken seriously. Arnold even took pot shots at Stallone at the time which revealed this, saying (paraphrase): "All that flag waving is a load of bull; we kill more people in Commando but we don't justify it by patriotism. This is just enetertainment" and even poking fun at Sly's stoic persona in Twins, when Arnold's character laughs at the Rambo 3 poster. Commando is most definitely self-aware, if far too early in the genre to be a full blown parody.
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Is life any better for you these days? No, I guess not...not with the myriad of exciting recent news concerning the future of that masterpiece Avatar. Oh well, there's always a bottle of cyanide with your name on it, old chum. Be a good lad and drink up, chin chin!
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Aug 08, 2010 6:14:06 PM CDT
KilliK, but you shouldn't have to do Harry's work for him....
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
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Aug 08, 2010 6:16:27 PM CDT
Scott Pilgrim is the most over-rated movie of all time
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
Already, even before release. Closely followed by JJ's Monkey Trek.
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"actually going to visit the first floor of your parents house" - that shit was funny.
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Harry watches and likes films the way he eats food. It's all candy and no sustance. Expendables was good 'to him' because thinking wasn't involved. I haven't seen Expendables, nor will I, not interested, in the story or the actors. Sly Stallone for me = cheaply written, cheaply made, C level filmmaking at best. His facial features are distorted, I'm just not interested in anything he has to say on film any more. Period. Frankly, Harry has had ZERO credibility for some time now. Whether it's his compulsive name dropping on who he's friends with, or his poorly written reviews, his theatrical musings don't appeal to me. I come to this site for Massa and the others. Harry likes poorly made candy, and the worst part of it is, he tries to come with ways to defend it as sustenance.
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Damn straight.
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That was me. Harry said something about a bachelor party he went to so I mentioned I went to one in AC last week. Met a girl and she drove down on friday and...the rest is in my post.
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That was me. Harry said something about a bachelor party he went to so I mentioned I went to one in AC last week. Met a girl and she drove down on friday and...the rest is in my post.
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as if this review means ANYTHING.
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Harry, for the love of all things Hollywood, please purge the raft of swinish trolls that litter the boards with nothing but hate for everything and everybody. I used to come here enjoy talking about movies, now most of the time it's some idiot trashing you or making scatological comments. I can't handle it anymore.
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Let's all sing Peace in Our Life by Frank Stallone. That will make it all okay again. Hope. Change. Frank Stallone. Think about it.
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If you haven't seen this yet u have got to watch it now! Stallone smashes and blows shit up on YouTube, so great - http://bit.ly/agQnqq
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wrapping and they are about to begin pre-production. Will Ferral and Steve Bushimi are in talks. I can guess who they'll play. I have no idea who to cast as the monster. Boyle was a huge guy
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Aug 08, 2010 8:37:57 PM CDT
Ultratron....Chris Walken needs to be in that remake
by jehovahs_witness
I don't care who he plays, but he is made for that film.
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Aug 08, 2010 8:52:59 PM CDT
First Blood is actually the first one man army movie that starte
by manzilla
And yet at the same time it was a superb movie as well. Stallone then took the template of first blood stripped it of all its humanity and made Rambo II, which is still very entertaining when you turn off your brain.
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there's more scat in harry's reviews than on the talkbacks.
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And the gleeful excitement being expressed here in regards to how awesome the men on men action in this movie is leads me to suspect that many, if not most, if not ALL the guys excited to see this are a little light in the loafers.
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Anyone remeber that Rambo was beaten out by that Awful Meet the Spartans as underage kids were buying those tix to sneak into the hard R Rambo? Same thing will happen with the awful scott Pilgrim. You can Guarantee that. I'll be checking out Expendables...fuck Scott Pilgrim. Go Sly.
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i'll see inception for the third time instead of watching this. God did this summer blow..
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think that just because you have a talkback name on aintitcool.com means you have so much knowledge about film, especially films you haven't seen like the expendables
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...but I'm still gonna see the movie.
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Alex Jones is a moron. Just in case no one has told you. That's okay, you can thank me later.
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been watching too many emmerich movies?
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didn't harry guarantee an inception review today...
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Aug 08, 2010 10:53:22 PM CDT
Harry didn't like INCEPTION. That's all there is to it.
by colonelfatheart
But he'll write a review about how he's come to "appreciate" it over multiple viewings, etc. etc.
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you have the balls to call anyone on here a troll??!! After you spent months spamming/trolling the talkbacks telling us all how Avatar would be the biggest bomb ever, and then insulted anyone that disagreed with you. Fuck you, you fucking coward. You have yet to cop to how flat out wrong you were you dumb fuck shit. Quick, Tranny, im still waiting for you to tell me the winning lottery numbers, or predict the future of film for us given your astounding powers of future prediction....
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all with a straight face take anything you have to say about Avatar 2 seriously, because you are 100% sure to completely wrong again....
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If that is indeed the case. More than a few movies I've watched once or twice, didn't get all the fuss, but still revisited to the point of admiration or love. As a fan of this site, though, I'd have loved to see his initial reaction to what's become the movie event of this otherwise dreary summer.
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first time i wasn't blown away, due to the fact that it was more ambitious than i expected. i actually had to think about the movie after it was over, which is rare these days. That being said it deserves a review; especially if harry reviewed Twilight. Btw, seeing it again solidifies my belief that Hollywood won't see another movie like this for sometime. Without a doubt the best of the year
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During the film? All these years of moviegoing and you haven't learned to drain the lizard before the movie starts?Either that, or you purchased a drink, which is *always* a mistake.Anyway, as hyperbolic as this review was it pretty much confirms everything I was expecting the film to be. Except for Eric Roberts dialling it down. I don't think I've ever seen that man *not* overact.
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It sounded good until, you compared it to Inception. Let's dont kid ourselves.
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You guys are too scared to admit it for some strange reason. I hope harry doesn't decide to write a review full of praise to appease you talkbackers screaming it's masterfulness.... Inception is anything but a masterfully made film. time will not be good to it.
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star in The Lunchables. Mmm Good.
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The word "testicular" attracted him here. I'm beginning to suspect you're not American from you use of the word "daft." Only fairies and/or Euro-trash use that word.
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Arnold was never the poor mans stallone - wtf mate? Rambo II was a sequel made in the realm of empire strikes back. Stallone was having success with Rocky and it's sequels - Rambo was a gamble -- a different direction. It was an exciting sell. A glorious time for hollywood films. Arnold was having his own success with Terminator and conan. He was never in competition with stalone anymore than Star trek was with star wars. Terminator 2 was, again, a sequel of inspiration. And again, it was exciting (but that was the 90's - and brought on by the fact that Arnald was no longer a 'bad guy' - he was a megastar) poor mans stallone. Fucking wanker
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Shatner Nimoy and Stewart were there.
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But I will admit that I think you are gobbler of cocks. To everyone here that thinks that Inception sucks, go on and be proud of your contrarianism. You ARE smarter than 80% of the rest of the world. And your judgement is the most correct, clear-sighted, enlightened opinions out there. Who does Nolan think he's fooling?
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Never seen the Searchers???? That's something you need to rectify almost instantly. It's one of John Waynes greatest movies, and one that proved when he was given the right material he was more than a one trick pony (Also Red River- what a performance he gave! True Grit, although good was just a give him an oscar before he dies...)OHMSS had some good moments in it- crawling across the ski lift wires, seducing the women with the best Bond one liner EVER "Are you alright, Mr Bond?" "I can just feel a slight stiffness coming on.." (after his leg is written on in lipstick) And although I don't like to talk about it much, medical doctor and I was on call yesterday. Horrid horrid horrid day.
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Agree with you that they weren't in competition with each other. They actually planned to make a movie together way back when until Schwarzenegger said something about Stallone opening a men only club (fnar fnar)where they all sat around and smoked cigars (oo-er). Stallone got pissed and the movie was off. Bridges were built and they began ribbing each other in their movies. That was about the only competition there was, to see who could provide the "dig" In my opinion that was in Last Action Hero where Stallone is put as being in the Terminator 2 ("He wuz fintastic in zat muhvie....")
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Reading comments on AICN talkbacks is like trudging through a river made up of feces, dead rats and decapitated skulls, floating in stinking, pitch black water - it's that fucking revolting.
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You forgot "Emesis" and "Voiding" but we'll let you off....
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Aug 09, 2010 4:17:21 AM CDT
Harry, learn to write, then we'll take your reviews seriously.
by unfunnydude
Jesus...
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I hope i will like this movie, as i gained a new respect for Sly. But Harry's review is robbing me of much confidence. Harry's review is one of those occasions when a positive review causes the exact opposite effect of what ws intended. Usually it's Massawyrm that does that.
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Pray tell me what i misread in your posts, so that we can understand each other, friend.
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What i like about COMMANDO is the few moments when the jokes were deliberatly made to be jokes, and they are indeed very funny. "'Do you have any luggage, sir?' Only him'". "Please don't disturbe my friend, he's dead tired", "I like you Scully, i'll kill you last", "i had to let him go". All that stuff is indeed very funny, and deliberatly done to be funny. But the movie is also funny, if not funnier, for the goofy stuff it has which were intended to either play as cool or dramatic and came off totally silly and goofy. COMNANDO is a movie that does it's damn best to try to out-do RAMBO II in every department, specially on the violence, and the coolness of the hero in his abilities as a killing machine, not to mention the fetishism of his muscles. And all this, deliberatly intended to play as cool, comes off as extremely goofy and silly and funny. And it's not just today that the movie looks as stup+id and goofy, evne bakc then the movie was stupid and goofy. I remember when me and my mates saw it in VHS back in the 80s, we all rolled in the floor laughing. It was a laugh riot. And much more often we were laughing AT the movie then with the movie. And by the way, the only wayt to watch that movie today is to know already what to see and jump ahead to those scenes, because to see the whole movie from start to finish is an immesnse bore. Yes, out of those selected scenes, COMMANDO is a very boring movie. The pacing of that movie is just bad.
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"Nolan failed to connect the audience with the characters and action emotionally"Speak for yourself. One of the great things abolut INCEPTION is that it's thankfully blissfully de oid of melodramatic bullshit. Nolan used drama in lieu of melodrama, and for that i think him, accusations of coldness be damned.
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Are you telling me that at the very least the corridor fight in INCEPTION didn't impressed you? For real! No, really, for real? And you know what? I love the action stuff in Nolan's movies. I prefer what he does as opposed to what many so-called action directors do, like Michelle "Incompetente Shit" Bay. And i'm not going to put Cameron against Nolan, i like both in the way they present action in their movies. I like both. They are not the filmakers i would pit agaisnt each other. Cameron Vs Bay or Nolan Vs Bay, that's another matter.
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Well put bro. Inception was easily Nolan's most polished work to date.
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"Because I like to look at a girl's face during sex...I guess I'm a romantic like that. Not a big fan of doggie style because one time this one girl had a tuft of hair coming out of her anus like she was hiding a troll doll in there. I felt like I was going to vomit." Fucking awesome. You made me "lol" pretty good there man ;-)
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spammers. my account has been hacked. yahoo arent doing anything about it.
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I will add The Searchers to my must see list. there are actually many films I havn't seen that are regarded as the best ever, Citizen Kane, Gone with the wind, Lawrence of arabia, 2001, Mac and me. i must get round to seeing them. Did you know the Coen Bros are remaking True Grit with Jeff Bridges? A doctor? It's so unusual to have a talkbacker who is not only in employment but in such highly regarded employment. bravo.
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I also grew up with Roger Moore as James Bond (i suspect we must be both of about the same age) and he was James bond as far i was concerned, but the moment that THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS was made and timothy Dalton stepped in, i completly turned my back on Moore. Dalton was a revelation for me. In a more limited scope and embition, THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS was the day's CASINO ROYALE. Where Bond got more gritty, and where they toned down the gadgets and Bond showed a greater capacity to use smarts and the enviroment around him to his advantage. Sure, there's the car with the lazer on the wheels and the missiles, but that's the extention of elaborate outlandish gadgets in the movie, which looks tame and restrained in comparison to the usual Bond movie done in the days of Moore.But for me the best thing about THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS was Timothy Dalton as Bond. For the first time i could believe he was an government sanctioned assassin, for the first time i could understand the concept of the license to kill and to what kind of a person it would be issued to. Timothy Dalton is an accomplished shakespearean theater actor, and he acted the hell out of the Bond character in ways that not even the much beloved Connery could. Dalton totally sold the cold blooded assassin side of Bond that nobody before either could or dared. With Dalton i could believe without a shadow of a doubt this Bond could put a cap on your head just for looking at him the wrong way and he would then drink a vodka-martini as if nothing happened. The intensity and dedication Dalton played the part was not only refreshing but enlightning. When i saw THE LIVING DAYLIHGTS, it was as if i was seeing the James Bond movie saga for the first time. And by then i was already a 5 Bond movie veteran.One of the good things of today is that not only ON HER MAGESTY'S SECRET SERVICE and George Lazemby are getting their just recognition, but so are Timothy Dalton and THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS. This two actors and their Bond movies are no longer puns but they are getting their just recognition and a place at the top of the Bond franchise position, where they should. Time can indeed rectify many injustices and bring recognition and justice to those which deserve.
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And was called TRON.
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Are you asking what are the movies i think are the best ever made, or what are my favorite movies which i think are truly very good? Because many people make the mistake of confusing the two.What i'm going to say next will sound like a tired cliché, but it is indeed my deep conviction, but i think CITIZEN KANE is the best movie ever made, if i have to name just one. There's a good few others which also live in such stratospheric heights, but if one has to be singled out, it has to be CITIZEN KANE, because i truly believe it's the most influencial movie ever made in the wole history of cinema. 95% of the movies made today are direct or indirect influenced by it for a miriad of reasons.As for my own favorite movies which i see them as excelent movies of the highest cinematic quality, those are BLADE RUNNER, 2001: A SPACE ODDYSSEY and APOCALYPSE NOW (this does denounce my SF fan nature). I can say i have a slight tiny preference for BLADE RUNNER over the two aforementioned, but that's just because it was the first of the holy trinity i say, but i love those 3 movies equaly. Were i a filmmaker, those would be the 3 movies that would always be in my mind and would direct or indirectly influence my all filmmaking choices. And CITIZEN KANE too, of course.
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Mac n Me......hahahahaha, very very good! Citizen Kane, 2001, Lawrence of Arabia you NEED to see. It is an insult to cinema not to view these masterpieces. All true classics. As for this site, love it (although I do bitch and moan from time to time, but who doesn't here?)and have an absolute PASSION for cinema since seeing Disneys Peter Pan as a kid at the cinema. All kinds of movies and genres appeal to me. Sounds corny, but after my family and my job it is my one true love. As for the job, I always knew what I wanted to be since I was 6. Oddly enough, it was the medical Carry On movies that piqued my interest, as I thought doctors just run around chasing nurses and having a laugh all day. WHO wouldn't want some of that? Sadly, the truth is somewhat completely different! Anyway, it's how I met my wife (same profession, but MUCH smarter and infinitely more sexy than I am- bitch!) She earns the big bucks while I work part time and look after our two kids. Totally agree about Daltons Bond- for my wife it's Bronsnan (oh dear) but for me Dalton brought an entirely new feel to the role, and injected much needed grit. License To Kill was the first Bond movie (and only if I recall correctly) to be slapped with a 15 certificate. I went to a special screening of it and was blown away by the change in Bond.
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understand the fanboy love for Tron. I never saw it in the early 80s because I was Too young, actually I only saw it about three years ago for the first time. And while I really liked the designs, and theres no question the film was way ahead of its time in terms of cencepts,and the way it was made (really predicting the use f a virtual studio that is in such common usage these days imho). But the difference between the Matrix and Tron is simply that The Matrix had one of the best sci-fi/action scripts ever written, and good characters, while Tron's characters are quite bland, and the script simply isnt very good.
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understand the fanboy love for Tron. I never saw it in the early 80s because I was Too young, actually I only saw it about three years ago for the first time. And while I really liked the designs, and theres no question the film was way ahead of its time in terms of cencepts,and the way it was made (really predicting the use f a virtual studio that is in such common usage these days imho). But the difference between the Matrix and Tron is simply that The Matrix had one of the best sci-fi/action scripts ever written, and good characters, while Tron's characters are quite bland, and the script simply isnt very good.
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mostly on nostalgia (as so many things from the 80s are) and the awsome Tron toys and computer games of the time...
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Inception is rated the 3rd highest movie ever at this point. Higher than ESB and Raiders. I look at the top 250 on that list and some of those picks makes me want to cry. In no way does it reflect the opinions of the general public because only rabid fanboys take the time to vote on that site.
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Good man how are you?
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Although split by 3 years, the Black Hole all but destroyed my love for SyFy. (although happily it has been re-invigorated by a slew of classics!)
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The design looks great. It's got computer overtones. I never saw it. I don't know anyone who loves Tron. The film was a flop on release despite nothing looking like it then and since.
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Portugeul? Its so fucking hot and humid here in Korea, easily the worst Summer I have ever had here. Just uncomfortably hot. And thank you Asimov for being one of the sane people here that realizes that we dont need to compare two awsome directors like Cameron and Nolan, and thats its actually possible to love things about two different directors for completely different reasons. And appreciate different things about the way they make their films, and film action scenes/set pieces...
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I thhink that in INCEPTION there is all the background there is needed for the drama about Cobb's character. i didn't need anymore to feel and understand his predictment and what made him tick. I also praise INCEPTION for the dramatic and storytelling economy that it presents in that regard. too many movies to over-extend the melodrama stuff to the point that it not only over-stays it's welcome but gallops into total boring clicheddom, but in INCEPTION is was just right.
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What have the Wachowskis been up to? Man have they been quit.
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....not be vital to him????? What the fuck did he want???? Tom Hardy KICKED FUCKING ASS in that movie!
There was gunfire, hand to hand combat with people fighting for their lives. Jesus! What a piss poor excuse if there ever was one.
YES! BUT EVERY FUCKIN BAD GUY IN THE MOVIE IS JUST MADE UP(DREAM SECURITY)...LIKE IN...NOT REAL!! WHO THE FUCK CARE IF THE DIE!
ITS NOT VERY EXCITING TO WATCH A BAD GUY DIE WHEN YOU KNOW 10 MORE COULD POP UP IN THE NEXT MINUTE...SINCE THEY ARE NOOOOOT REAL!
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of the Korean Summer. Btw dude, have you seen that Cameron told MTV that he is seriously considering filming Avatar 2and 3 back to back?
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The Wachowskis have not done very much since speedracer tanked. They are apparently writing a screenplay for a movie called CN9. Don't have a clue what it is about.
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was that Portugal was not made part of the united kingdom of Spain?
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gat relationship between two male soldiers during the Iraq war told backwards from the future. I am seriously not making this up...
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Am done with discussing Inception now, my friend. Got an answer from Mr Knowles, which although I disagree with, is all I am going to get. Case closed. And the movie ROCKS.
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nship"
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Oh......dear. That will have them queuing outside cinemas, wont it? Another "brave" choice.
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im not sure I could sit through a gay romance as it were....
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financing, and something tells me they may be looking for a while. It seems they are really looking to go as non-commercial as they can. Because as you say, I dont see many lining up to see this....
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Is it impossible to write a review without spoilers? Now I can't read what you have to say about the film. Wank.
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never met anyone that actually like Tron, or has even seen it/heard of it.
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Seen both, and you know what? I liked the Expendables more. I was actually more invested in the characters in a fucking 80's throwback movie! Scott Pilgim will be a LOT of peoples favourite movie of all time. I thought it was a visually inventive wank. Expendables has heaps of HOLY SHIT action and cunts do not turn to coins afterwards, they turn to bloody mush!
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Where did you see them, my friend? Expendables opens 15th here and Pilgrim on 25th.
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...about Commando. Maybe it's because you aren't a U.S. native? I was 18 when it came out and both I and my friends were howling with laughter both WITH and AT the film, as well as cheering. I know I shouldn't be surprised that you can't grasp that a disposable American pop culture film can be more than one thing at the same time, which you have demonstrated in talkback numerous times, but the steamrolling you back your two-dimensional up with is mindboggling. Have you no shame?
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clearly people on here like to bash things just to push peoples buttons. Those people who say they absolutely hate this movie either haven't seen it or just like trying to sound cool to themselves...I doubt that even if the acting is horrible, the dialog is bad, and the movie isn't plotted well...well...that was the 80s...
You even said in your review that this is more fun than Rocky or Rambo but not as good by far as Die Hard...that says everything I need to know. If you said it was the perfect movie I would join the people who say the review was a giant ass kissing, but u make the point of saying that all this movie is, is a fun time, and that's what Sly wanted.
Especially from the fantastic Comic Con panel, it just looked like these guys had a blast. Stone Cold was great in The Condemned even if the movie wasn't...so the panel was, for me, a way to see Randy, Stone Cold, and Terry around the bigger named stars and they all made me anxious to see them. What put it over the top was your posting of the Sly questions...the man is a genius.
now as for Scott Pilgrim....I will not be seeing it for the very reason Sly said: action stars these days sparkle in sunlight, weigh less than I did in junior high, and are the least macho people in movies. they appeal to women and nerds. Every action hero right now seems like they are written to be Peter Parker.
The most manly scene in any movie imo is in Predator...Arnold has set up all the traps, in covered in mud, lights the torch, pumps himself up, and let's out the best scream in history...in gives me goosebumps every time and there hasn't been a more manly moment since then.
that is what I am looking for in The Expendables...I want a truck flipping while the batpod does a 180 on a building, a red laser slicing through dozens of deadly robots, a spinning hallway anti-gravity fight, a falling/flying tank battle with drones, etc....and I want it done by the masters of my childhood inner action hero...and preferably someone who weighs more than my gf...well Jet Li gets a handicap....cuz he's small. -
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You guys didn't expect anything else did you? This will be an action packed mess. I'm sure people will need to check their brains at the door for this one. No problem with that. I'll wait for this on Netflix in 6 months. Scott Pilgrim does not interest me at all because I'm an over 25 hetero male. What's really funny is that both of these movies will lose at the box office to Eat Pray Love. LOL.
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Can't wait to see The Expendables...it's gonna rock big time.
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around. Was a bit worried about you after our last discussion dude.
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around. Was a bit worried about you after our last discussion dude.
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around. Was a bit worried about you after our last discussion dude.
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around. Was a bit worried about you after our last discussion dude.
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Well things actually got a bit worse, but I am making it through just fine my friend. Just get tired of the struggle you know? Tired of hearing "have patience things will improve" Fuck that been waiting years for that and it has not happened. Anyways....still hot in your neck of the woods huh? Yea pretty much here too, some days have been cooler, but still unbearable for the most part. Though the beach is quite a feast for the eyes I must say!
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SP is for alt-hipster-geek kids in their teens and early 20s. Lots of introverted geeks / nerds, emos, indie-kids, both boys and girls, both hetero and homo, will show up for Scott Pilgrim. It'll probably do well as a cult movie. Expendables is for gay guys who don't know they're gay. Guys who go to the gym and stare at the other men. I mean, seriously, go through this tb, from GINGER MANBABY's unrestrained masturbation to it on through to the end. All of this breathless talk of sweaty man-on-man action is SUPER GAY. And I mean, there's nothin' wrong with that, obviously, but it's G-A-Y. Oh, also, the entire crowd at Expendables is going to be dudes. So, dudes sitting together in the dark watching a bunch of other sweaty, shirtless dudes manhandle each other and 'splode? You can't get any gayer than that. It's nearly approaching 300 / Top Gun level gay.
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Hello my friend! How are you? Sounds a bit iffy from your last post. I hope that things are good for you. Enjoying the beach? I live directly opposite a beach, and the tourists are driving me up the wall! Thank god for double glazing! Blots out the damn noise!
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Well, yeah, it's very hot in here too, as it must be in the northern hemisphere everywhere. But i don't complay. Sure, it's disconfortable, but it's summer, it's supposed to be hot. Big d'uhhh. But it looks i'm made for heat, it's the cold that kicks my ass. Also, consider that in the middle ages global temperatures were higher, and which is why there were trees growing in the south of Greenland, and why the first crusade lost almost half the marmy to heat and sunstroke related fatalities, to add to plague and combat (only one in 3 survived the jorney to Jerusalém).Thanks for the kind words, and that's me, i have no truck in comparing two good filmmakers with one another so to "prove" one is bad. That's complete nonsense. It's like when people use Uwe Boll to try to make an argument for Michael Bay as a good filmmaker, when both are terrible shitty filmmakers. I despise that type of loaded dice argumentation tactics.The reason Portugal is not part of the United Kingdom Of Spain is because we fought for our independence. Literally. And 3 times in our history. The thing is, Spain had their chance at having Portugal as part of their kingdom, and they blew it.. In 1585, because a dumb ass Portuguese king called Don Sebastião decided to go on a crusade in Morrocco without thinking in leaving behind an heir and securing the perpectuation of his lineage, and then getting himself killed in the Battle of Alcacer Quibir (= Battle of Ksar El Kebir), the kingdom of Spain inhereted the crown of Portugal. And things worked well during the reign of King Philip II of Spain, he was even called the friend of Portugal. Things made a turn for the very worst with the next two kings, Philip II and III of Spain. You remember about the Invenicble Armada, a fleet the spanish came up with to try to invade and subjugate England back into papal catholicism? Well, 1/3rd of the ships were portuguese, and as we all know, and if you seen the movie ELIZABETH: THE GOLDEN AGE, the whole spasinsh fleet was destroyed, and with it so was the portuguese. To make matters worst, it ment that we the portuguese also gained the enemies of spain as well, the english, the frernch and the dutch. And that was very costly to our territories we lost in Asia and Africa (we retained the territories in Brazil much due to the efforts of the local colonials who mananged to kick back the dutch onslaught. For example, people take for granted that the dutch were in the eastern indies and Ceilon (Sri Lanka), and the english in India, but much of those inicial positions were conquered from the portuguese during our period as part of spain. So the portuguese decided this was enough already and in 1620 we declard independence form spain and fought for it, sucessfully and definitly. After that, it has been total political independence from Spain. It was the 3rd and last time we the portuguese fought against another iberian power to gain or regain autonomy. So, yeah, the portuguese and the spanish have butted heads a few times throughout history.
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What's up my brotha! Always a pleasure to talk with you. Yea, hot as hell here, but at least the eye candy is nice and scantily clad.Long story short...just having financial problems, I have since I got divorced, they just don't seem to go away. Without fail, every time things start going good, something comes along and brings me right down to the bottom. Most of it is not my fault....some yes, but most not. I'm in debt to so many people I know because I always have to borrow from people and I hate that. Anyways, like I said, tired of waiting, of being patient. I just want to live...right now I am (barely) surviving, all I want is to be able to just live. Seems like that's too much to ask. But I digress, how are you bro?
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Of course you were in the bathroom, Harry, of course you were.
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Oh man that sucks. I wont patronise you by saying that I know what you're going through because I don't, but I know of other people in your situation. Just a thought, but there are people who you can talk to about this kind of thing. Having seen it in action I can fully endorse that kind of action, but hey- it's your life my friend and you don't want to come here to hear me preach. As for me, I'm absolutely fine thank you very much. No work until Thursday, when I will be working all weekend, but vacation for 2 weeks starts on Monday and I can't wait!
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Good for you bro, doing anything on your vacation? To whom are you referring, as in people to talk to? If you are waxing religious on me it's gonna fall on deaf ears LOL. Otherwise, please, enlighten me my friend. I do thank you for not patronizing me, I get that from my family way too much , they have no idea what I am going through and tell me to be patient....easy for someone who has a comfy life to say that.Anyways, enough of my bellyaching. We have Choppah to deal with....ehhhhhh
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Let just hope your old van doesn't bring any more suprises, hem?And no Criterion DVDs and Blu-Rays in the near future. I know hurts, but man, that's life. Of course, it's easy for me to say this shit, right?
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As far as owing people money; I don't know the specifics of your situation (and they are private as far as I am concerened)but speaking from personal experience nothing beats my youngest brother. There are 4 of us, my other brother has his own business, my sister is a nurse and my youngest brother is an alcoholic coke head with no job and owes EVERYONE around him money. He borrowed £8k from me several years back, supposedly to buy a car to enable him to work, and to put down a deposit on an apartment and to furnish it. None of it materialised, and guess what? Never got the money back. I have 2 very expensive cats, and he even tried to sell them behind my back. Needless to say we do not correspond anymore. I have not seen or heard from him in over a year. Just a little family history to share with you. (and everyone who visits this TB....)
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All hail the choppah! Rogue, no not religeous (I am one of the biggest athiests on the planet. Too much of what I have seen has killed any belief in a god.)But professional psychiatric help from those who understand and are able to put you on the right path mentally and emotionally. It doesn't mean you're mad or anything demeaning, but it means that you have an outlet to express yourself and a sounding board to help you help yourself. Just my 2 cents.
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Choppah why the fuck are you copying and pasting my posts again??? You did this shit before and now you have really sunk to a new low. That was from another TB, WTF you freaking tool????
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The Defender-has Jerry Springer as the prez, pretty hard to top that. The Peacekeeper-So bad its good, Roy Schreider is the prez. Man, in Dolphs world anyone can be prez. Last, I come in Peace-Dolph as a cop taking on a drug dealing alien with a decapitatng boomerang disc. I shit you not. Missionary Man-Dolph doing the Billy Jack bit. All of them good, dumb fun. Recently some thieves broke into Dolphs home in Spain. Soon as they figured out who it belonged to, left the place without taking anything.
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Vacation- staying in the Savoy Sharm, Sharm El Shiekh. First time to Egypt. 7 nights. Should be fun. Second week touring the UK and visiting as many pubs as I can.
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Have an awesome time bro! I need a vacation, and soon LOL.
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Should be the new excuse reviewers should use to justify they not getting a movie and thus put down a good smart movie, or by deliberatly missing a scene that would damned the whole movie and thus justify a possitive review of a really bad movie. "I was in the toilet". "I was in the bog". "I was powdering my nose".
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To save this TB from the lameness it has become!!!!!!! ALL HAIL THE CHOPPAH!!!!!
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are you from the UK, as you mentioned that Licence to kill got a 15 certificate? i love Licence to kill, and find it infinetely more entertaining that Living Daylights. I like that it's the only bond that when released as you said got a 15 cert rather than a PG. Nowadays i'm sure it would get a 12A because it's not that more violent or intense than Daniel Craigs outings. Licence to kill was a failure at the box office, go figure! i think many bond fans complaints with Licence to kill would be that it deviated somewhat from the traditional bond formula, instead opting for a bond on the run storyline, bond going rouge, licence revoked as i think it was called in the states. I also think it was trying to compete with the action films of the day, because Licence to kill definately has a die hard feel to it. the music is by michael kamen, who did Die Hard, and it even stars agent Johnson, robert davi, from Die hard. it's also bloodier and more intense than any previous bond and i personally loved the shift in tone. couple that with two of the most gorgeous ever bond girls, particularly Carey Lowell, and Licence to kill would be in my top 5 bonds. Interestingly,and i'm not one to gossip, but i will today, Timothy Dalton has a child with Oksana Grigoreiva, Mad Mels russian ex.
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One of my favorite Bond films, I wish Dalton had done at least one more film, I loved his portrayal of the character.
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That's why i ended my posts as i did, with that pun. Basically, the joke was on me.
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It was always gonna be a rave. I haven't seen it, and hope its awesome, but again, I didn't even bother reading the review.
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Piss off
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You contribute nothing to the TB's, you are just a jerk off trying to get attention.
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Interesting choices ... you're aware of my thoughts on Blade Runner, and I havnt seen 2001 or Citizen Kane, but i will, I'm 30 Asi. You sound like you have alot of love for Living Daylights, but what about Licence to kill, a far more entertaining and gritty Dalton outing. Peoples favourite movies cannot be judged as weak choices because it's subjective isnt it, someone could say their favourite film is Transformers 2 and that's fine. maybe it's their favourite film because they played with transformers as a kid and found transformers 2 to be a reminder of their youth. we can't nit pick their choices because often it comes from an emotional level rather than a technical level. My favourite film is The Shawshank Redemption because that film spoke to me on so many levels. for me it's 2 hours of movie perfection. Goodfellas is another, for different reasons. that movie just never gets dull, it's a tour de force and i absolutely love it, and thirdly i've always loved Dances with wolves. I know that may be regarded as a weird choice, but Dances with wolves never fails to get be bawling my eyes out. and its also the film where one character is me personified, Timmons, the farting belching foul mouthed guide played by Robert Pastorelli. "put that in yer book" lol
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I'm the other way around, i prefer THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS to LICENSE TO KILL.But it was fun to see Benicio Del Toro in one of his very early roles. Though i only noticed it was him very recently when i saw a doc about the Bond movies that showed scenes from Bond's fight against Del Toro's thug. But Del Toro must had impressed John Glenn because he cast him in his next movie, that Christopher Columbus he did back in 1992. That was the movie i first noticed Del Toro, as he did had much more to work with, even dialogue, and he made the most of it and was quite impressive, even tole the scenes he was in. Then came THE USUAL SUSPECTS and the rest is history.
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I am not wasting my time with someone who trolls TB's and reposts other people's shit....fucking loser.
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Easily one of the top 5 Bonds.
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with my rocky cobra in hand.
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IS OHMSS your favorite Bond film? If not what is?
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i'd say it's a tossed salad between Diamonds are forever, A view to a kill and Die another day. i thought sean connery looked ridiculous and too old in DAF, and i hated those two fag villians Mr wint and mr kidd, and the whole film was just crap, except plenty o toole, who looked hot in giant 70's panties. a view to a kill was a bond too far for moore, who looked like a tired old war horse. and clearly used a stunt double for even the simplest stunts like jogging. it was also a stupid bond film, beach boys in the soundtrack, comedic policemen, and a weak story. Die another day was just a stupid CGI fest that went way too far, invisible cars, halle berry diving into water 100000 feet below, water surfing etc, terrible.
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screw off, loser. arnie sly and bruce are what some pieces of our curiosity are wrapped around. ugh.
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I don't think that any opinion is beyond scrutiny. an di do make a point in establishing a difference between an opinion and a preference. It's preferences that go into the realm of the personal and subjective (for the lack of a beter word), and even the logic behind those can be debated.It's with opinions that all bets are off. To try to justify an opinion merely because it's our own is a no-argument. It's nothing. There has to be a reason, and a good reason, behind an opinion, it can't just be based on some spur of the moment thing that was the first thing that popoed on our head at a moment. An opinion is a much more imp+ortant, and i dare say, serious thing that that. There is such a thing as a difference between having an opinion and being opiniated. Many don't see it and many don't even care... or want.
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i was hoping you'd just tell me what your least favourite bond movies are dude ;)
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I have to say, 2005's CASINO ROYALE is my favorite bond movie, because for me it not only works as a bond movie, but as a movei on it's own. OHMSS cames a very close second, though. With such movies as THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS, THE SPY WHO LOVE ME (the only extravagant Bond movie i do have something of a love for), GOLDFINGER. I do am a bit particular to FOR YOUR EYES ONLY because i'm in love with Carole Bouquette in that movie. She is for me the most beautiful Bond Girl ever, which is saying something considering the high level of quality through the saga.
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Good choices there my friend, all quality. I am not even sure I can pick a favorite Bond film, but right off I'd have to say Goldfinger, Tomorrow Never Dies, & Casino Royale are among my faves.
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My least favorite Bond movie? That's an unusual question. It has to be either THUNDERBOLT or MOONRAKER. Generally speaking i think very poorly of the Moore's Bond movies, with the exception of THE SPY WHO LOVED ME and FOR YOUR EYES ONLY.
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Yes, I'm from and live in the UK. Oddly enough, my friend and I are looking to buy a villa in Portugal (sounds flash, but it is all true.) I love it there- it's a beautiful country. Hired a villa last year and had a great time! The violence in LTK and its tone ensured that it unfortunately tanked. The world just wasn't ready for that kind of Bond back then. Shame- Dalton could have done so much more than the cartoony stuff of Brosnan. However, I must admit to loving the reboot from Craig, and hating Quantum so much I threw the DVD in the bin. I am serious. It was bought as a gift and I didn't even unwrap it. It went straight in the bin. Daniela Bianchi- from russia with love is my ultimate bond girl. I just fucking love her. The things I would have done to her don't bear talking about..
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from jungle scene in Octopussy, i wanna watch it now it's so funny.
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TOMORROW NEVER DIES is a movie that starts very well, and there's some really sharp dialogue at the begining. But the movie then progresses into a banal action movie by the end. Brosnan and Michelle Yong do make a great screen couple and she kicks ungodly amounts of ass. By the way, maybe you ar enot aware of this, but the original choice to play the woman whom bond almost gave up his spy life (at least as portaited in that movie) was not Terry Hatchet. She was a later minute replacement (which futher brough complications because she then got pregnant). No, the original choice of actress was non other then Monica Bellucci. Now, terry is a pretty woman, no doubt, but she is not on the same level of La Monica. Monica is a goddess. It's completly plausible for me that a goddess like La Monica would make even such a shameless philander like James Bond give up not only on his job but on the rest of womankind. Terry, not so much. Terry on the bong girl level is, well, banal.
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My man, don't you mean Thunderball? My worst has to be A View To A Kill. Not even Walken could save that shit.
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i wanna hear what you would have done to her lol ... what part of the U.K? Is it pissing down with rain where you are? I think Asimov is from Portugal. I didnt like Quantum either. It's often a trend with bond to have one good, and then one bad and so on. was def the case with roger moore.
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For me is Die Another Day....stupid cartoon action, invisible fucking car? Please....nothing could save that movie, even if Halle Berry had shown her tits, it still would have been an epic fail. It actually started off good, the whole Bond being captured and imprisoned, but god it went downhill faster than a runaway train.
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helps to explain a persons favorite Bond. It was in EW and the author thinks its usually the first Bond you saw. To me, it made sense as my favorite Bond was Moore. Why? First Bond I saw was Man with Golden Gun and I thought he was sooo cool. Course now that I'm a lot older my tastes have changed at least twice. But its an interesting idea.
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I liked it...not the best but god it was far from the worst IMO. I hope Craig can do another one, I know MGM is in ruins right now, but I hope somehow another Bond with Craig gets done, they guy is all kinds of awesome as Bond.
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My brother in law openly admits to finding her rape scene in Irreversible a huge turn on! is that wrong? Sam, agree about a view to a kill, its crap. worsr bond = Die another day.
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Can i ask you where in Portugal that villa is situated? Because if the villa is in Alentejo, then the name we give to those in here is "monte". "Monte alentejano". And really, if you ever go to live here we have to met.
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See? That's how much I dislike that movie that i can't even bother to get he title straight. Thunderball, thunderbolt, same difference to me.
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Ahhhh saw her for the first time in Brotherhood Of The Wolf....yum. Beautiful woman. Even dirty grimy and sweaty like she was in Tears Of The Sun she was still smokin.
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The one scene with Bambi and Thumper (the 2 lesbians) fighting Bond and doing those floor gymnastics shit, whoa!! Even as a kid I got hard. That and Jill St John almost make it watchable. Almost.
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it would signal the start of the apocalypse. Not that anybodys asking but I went on Holiday in Portugal last year, Faro, Lagos and Sagres. Glad to see some love for Tomorrow Never Dies here. Its an underrated Bond.
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Mixed bag on that. With some ok with how it turned out and others angry.
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I call nonsense to that theory. The first Bond movie i saw was OCTOPUSSY, and is now of the Bond movies ones i most dislike. And i rate Moore as the worst Bond. That theory doesn't hold sway, i'm affraid.
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I think it is worth getting. I saw it in the theaters! Me and a buddy of mine were one of about 10 people there. Glad I saw it on a big screen. That was back when I could actually afford to go to the movies whenever I wanted to.
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BROTHERHOOD OF THE WOLF kicks ungodly amounts of ass, and not only is it a great action movie, it's aslo pretty smart and clever. And it has female nudity, cortesy of a very naked Monica Bellucci. She is not the only pretty hot babe in the movie, though. But is the one that gets constantly naked. Does this suffice for your possible interest in the movie?
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It amazes me some people seem surprised Harry gave a glowing review for Expendables. This was a given since the project was announced.
Harry's reviewing credibility was destroyed years ago when he posted two opposite reviews for Armageddon. No-one's expected an honest & unbiased review since..nor have we got one lol.
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Have not seen the DC of Brotherhood....how much extra stuff is in it?
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Now that I've had time to remember more, the writer also did a lunch interview with Moore at the time and broached him with the idea. Course the writer said Moore was his favorite Bond. Octopussy was bad but it had a decent opening escape with the mini plane and the song "All time high" was good. Louis Jourdan as a villain? Weak. He was better in "Swamp Thing" hamming it up as the bad guy.
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Lana (Natalie's little sis gives me)Wood, and the gayest hitmen in the history of cinema. Yes, being early '70s, their homosexuality was played for cheap, easy laughs but it's Crispin Glover's Dad! And you see where he got it from! It's all there in its Glover-ness.
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it amazes me what you learn on here.
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But it doesn't hold the allure it does for others. Maybe because I'v seen movies like Dirty Dozen, Dogs of War, Wild Bunch, etc where in that business your buddies die. Wish that at least someone would kick the bucket. Remember the movie "Wild Geese"? You could see what was going to happen at the end but still was cool.
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It's in a place called Viana Do Castelo, outside of Ponte De Lima on the A27. Absolutely beautiful. Just fell in love with the place. JackGraham, what I would have done to her? Put it this way, she would have a hard time walking, talking, chewing and shitting for a while.
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...about halfway through. I felt like I was reading a review of a gay porno.
Im still seeing it though, don't get me wrong.
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I still remember most of it after all these years: Its your fight, your country, remember: Kimba,kick his ass!
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It's about 20 more minutes of extra stuff, which whole new sequences. It makes much more clear some of the stuff that happens in the movie and which, in the theatrical cut, looked like it happened with no apparent reason. I suspect the only reason those 20 minutes were cut was merely time constrains, as the movie is 150 minutes in the theatrical version already. But the added 20 minutes of the DC in nothing affects the pacing of the movie, it even makes it feel more complete.
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Itr's not my area, as i live fither south in Almada, on the other side of the River Tagus form lisbon. But yeah, it's a very beautiful zone, near the Serra da Estrela. Truly well chosen zone. and really, whenever you settle down, tell me, i'll pay you a visit. It's no more then one hour by car from where i live, traveling by the A27.
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Hey, if she can walk I don't know my business.
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What were the Mad Max and Leathal Weapon movies then? Movies about people sipping tea?
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Much forgotten cult classic, it's good to see that some of the new guys are gaining a new love and appreciation for it.
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what gives?
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Looking for another franchise now that MI is done?
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The title cames from Shakespeare's play Julius Caesar: "Cry, 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war!" Kick ass!
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What gives? Well, the fact that on average portuguese salaries are 1/3rd of those in Britain. It would take me a while to get enough finances to do vacations on such an expensive place as the UK.
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Was just sooo real about the merc business. And Walken played the perfect merc. Learned so much about the merc business and the men themselvs. Have the book with one of those great 70s covers. The book was perfect reading for the time back when 3d world nations had cold war conflicts, rich guys trying to take over those governments either with mercs or buying them outright. And no GPS or computers. If you were out in the bush you were by yourself except for radio or walkie talkie. The world sure has gotten smaller hasn't it thanks to technology.
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There is talks of a 4th MI movie, with Brad Bird as direcgor and Tom Ego Cruise and Jar Jar Abrams as producers, with the two clowns Orci and Kurtzman as writers.
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Think I got it mixed up with the Bond franchise. MI3 wasn't bad but the other two, ehhhh.
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Not just talk, it's actually happening. Cruise has had his salary slashed as his box office appeal and draw have diminished. He is working for scale with a tidy back end deal if it breaks even. As for visiting- no worries. You might find us erm....stuck up slightly (it's a money thing unfortunately, and also what we do for a living)but you're welcome to visit when we get there. I am down to earth, but my wife and kids are erm....very designer. Oh well, my wife is a great shag so I find it's ok. Oh I hate saying what I just said (not about the shag) but it's the truth. I'm very honest- it's one of my major drawbacks. Now I sound like a complete cock head.
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Aug 09, 2010 11:47:47 AM CDT
This movie also missed Seagal. Vern must be crushed...
by greatwhitenoise
...but at least he made it into Machete. I'll see both.
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You must admit, though, that nobody delivers that Julius Caesar line quite like General Chang in Undiscovered Country. Even if it ain't in the original Klingon when he does.
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Don't insult yourself, you are good people bro, a gentleman and a scholar...except when it comes to Bay LOL.
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That's what came to mind when I saw that quote, Chang in Trek VI, he was awesome.
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does your wife read your posts? also, can we hear more about how great a shag she is please? and since your so honest, what are her measurements? ;)
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I haven't seen that for eons, the last time on HBO. Love to see it again not just for Stallone and Billy Dee, but for a pre-Blade Runner Rutger Hauer. Seem to remember it being a pretty decent cop flick, not cartoony.
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its available on LoveFilm.com, I just saw it last week, i thought it was quite good, obviously very dated, and sly looks like pacino in serpico, and sly in a wig is unintentionally very funny. there are no late fees with LoveFilm.com so you could rent it and never return it!
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Teen sex film. Tom and his high school buddies head down to Tiajauna in early 60s to lose their virginity. Shelly Long and Jackie Earl Haley is in it. For decades the face was famiiar but couldn't put a name to it. Anyway, Jackie is the horniest of them all and likes to emulate Frank Sinatra right down to the hat. He is so funny when he explains to some mexican boys he's looking to fuck a senorita. He even acts it out. God, I watched it on betamax. Thats how long ago it was.
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does your wife read your posts? Oh god , no. Thank goodness. Measurements? I will only say the following- size 8, big tits, brunette, long hair, green eyes, totally smart, massive IQ, career woman who I can't believe I landed. (Oh she would kill me!)And a great shag. Marvelous infact. Rogue- thank you.
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You sound like a very alright guy, you sound like my kinda guy, so, i think we would get along just fine. I mean, two movie geeks with similiar tastes, and i do speak the language, your language (hope you will try learn bit of ours, it would look great to the portugueses you would interact with. The day is gone when we used top put up with supeior complexes form the brits, this is the 21th century now). And really, you sound like you married with Victoria Bechkam.
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Can we please get a new animation?
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You can't properly understand Shakespeare until you hear it in it's original klingon.
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...except for Spy Who Loved Me...is and will always be the worst...followed by ohmss and then the last two brosnan films, then Connery's last two (including never say never again)...frwl, cr, Thunderball, goldfinger, goldeneye, and Dr no are all the best.
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Behare of what NIGHTHAWKS you are getting, there is another movie called that that'd about a bunch of ugly english blokes going nightclubbing.
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Its sad that I know a phrase in Klingon.....I really have no life LOL.
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Gotta love General Chang
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Don't put yourself down so much. you know how Roland D. moore started his career on TV? By being the klingon expert in THE NEXT GENERATION. He's not doing too bad himself as of the moment.
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on dvd twice. the dvd was faulty and I had send it back as rental. saw it again. all the way through. the movie becomes a convulted mess towards the end, story wise. and there is a lots sweeping shots of the french countryside and slowed down sweeping shots of long flowing capes. shots of french decadance. and its a monster movie.
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Don't put yourself down so much. you know how Ronald D. Moore started his career on TV? By being the klingon expert in THE NEXT GENERATION. He even helped a lot developing the language. He's not doing too bad himself as of the moment.
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Jack Graham, I'll have to check it out.
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It dlosn0'tbecame a convulted mess by the end, it becames smarter and more ambitious, you have to pay attention. Yeah, an action movie where you have to think while watching, fancy that!
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you fat ginger piece of shit.
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You could say that the MI4 movie has run into trouble, since it's in the fetid hands of Jar Jar Abrams, Orci and Kurtzman.
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Although I am not doing quite so well as Mr. Moore.But yea, I wear my geekdom proudly. When my friends want to know a Huttese quote (language of the Hutts in Star Wars for the one or two people who don't know that LOL) IN THE LANGUAGE, they just ask me. My step daughter just looked dumbfounded as I was watching Star Wars one day and was reciting Greedo's lines verbatim.
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Still funny though.
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My wife has about 2 million billion times the brains victoria beckham has, but I wish we were as flush. She is very beautiful, but I would say that. Most men find her over powering, but that is a side effect of who she is and what she has accomplished. My youngest daughter takes after her (and looks like her)so much it's spooky. My eldest looks and acts like me- she is determined to become a dentist, and has complete tunnel vision- she will get it or else.
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bad form, peter!
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Aug 09, 2010 12:41:18 PM CDT
Tom Cruise in Losin it: it's before his cheekbone implants
by ultratron
You can easily see Tom's face change dramatically from that film. His cheekbone implants are definately well done. I think he might have pec implants as well. I'm the only person to ever point out Tom cruise's cheekbone implants first brought to my attention by his hairdresser. She could see the implant scars under his hairline. Anyways it's night and day. He's got em. Looks like a completely different guy in losin it
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My kids all seem to take after me for the most part. Looks wise they are all my side of the family. My oldest son (10yrs old) is a carbon copy of me, my daughter (also 10) looks very much like my sister, and my youngest (boy, 8) looks like me and maybe a tiny bit like the ex's brother, but that's as much as they get from her. Seeing the kind of kid the ex made with her new husband, it's crystal clear where they get their genes. So while the ex may have gotten everything in the divorce, I have my revenge in the fact that every day she has 3 living breathing reminders of me, no matter how much she tries to pretend they are not mine, she can never deny that they are.Fuck, she even has my kids calling their stepfather "dad" which pisses me off to no end. I have voiced my objections, but of course it falls on deaf ears. She just doesn't want people to know hers is a broken family, she must maintain an image of perfection. It really got to me when at my son's little league game one day his coach referring to his "dad" and I was standing right there...making it clear the bitch introduces her new spouse as the father of MY kids. One day things are going to get real ugly, I can tell, it's heading in that direction.Again I am ranting about my life...oh well LOL
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Isn't that something Hollywood studios have always done. Get someone new that has moneymaking potential under contract and quietly have some nip-tuck done. Hey, if hollywood could pay for Judy Garlands abortions and pill habit, they'd do Cruises cheekbones without a second thougt. Thanks for the info.
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(which has got to take about ten minutes, considering the logistics) during this...and you call yourself a reviewer? Granted the Willis-Arnold-Stallone scene IS more of a stunt than story telling, but you missed the entire scene?
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Thanks Harry - I did want to see this movie but due to this homo erotic review you posted I just can't bear the thought of you pleasuring your self because your man crushes are all on the screen together.
Did you run this one by anyone for some feedback? Anyone would have told you to go easy on the GAY bro - you took a pretty manly flick and reduced it to some some pretty bad internet fan written erotica.
Even if sly is your "buddy" he is probably a little dispointed with this drivvel your wrote pimping out his movie - and I mean literally pimping it out... -
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I'll be he dozed off into a dream-within-a-dream-within-a dream...of testicular awesome manish masterpieces before feeling the "kick" of a full bladder compelling him to the restroom
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Yeah...if you wanna talk about spanking it to a movie then review porn. This is a movie about men with guns. Please don't talk about jerking off throughout any future reviews. And also, I remember that you liked Phantom Menace and Armageddon, so I will wait for The Expendables to be on cable to watch it as you have zero credibility. Sorry dude, but it's the truth.
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Maybe Harry watched the extendables. You know 80s male porn stars with huge dicks reuniting for one last porn movie.
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and then on the demand of my gf, hoovered them up from the floor. has anyone ever had an ingrown toe nail on either of the two large toes? i had once and it was a killer. i'm fine now. my gf says ive got the weirdest toe nails ever. they are really sharp and tough, and i dont file the edges cos i cant be arsed doing that, so at night when im tossing and turning in bed i often accidentally stab her legs with my tallons. she says my toe nails are like daggers. does anyone else have toenail issues? as this is a film site i better say something related. i love die hard.
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in no partuclar order: Diamonds are Forever; The Man with the Golden Gun; A View to a Kill; Die Another Day; and Tomorrow Never Dies.AsimovLives, shame on you for relegating the excellent Thunderball to the bottom of the pack. Aside from some poor pacing, it has Connery at the very top of his game, a great villainess, some amazing production values and action scenes, and a serious and gritty tone (as do all the first 4)that would soon start to erode with the next movie in the series on. Moonraker is ridiculous but thoroughly enjoyable as excessive 70's high camp, if not a credible Bond movie. The true worst are dumb AND tedious.The worst Bond is also Pierce Brosnan. He wasn't bad per se, but brought nothing new to the role whatsoever. He was a store front mannequin or video game simulacrum of the 'ideal' James Bond, a greatest hits of the qualities of the past actors. Moore was a silly Bond, but unique and enjoyable on his own terms. Lazenby was barely an actor and only had the great fortune to be in one of the best in the series, thus making him look better than he actually was. Connery, Dalton and Craig are all terrific in various aspects.
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That I actually enjoyed The Man With The Golden Gun....I don't know why, it is really weak as a Bond film goes, but I own it and still watch it on occasion. At a loss to explain that one.
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i agree with your list. For all its dumb excess moonraker is enjoyable, if for nothing else jaws getting the girl, jaws and bond fighting on a cable car and the total bad assness of drax, who conveys his evilism by eating cucumber sandwiches.
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Yes, I have had bad ingrown toenails on my big toes. In high school, it was murder. I was playing basketball and someone stepped on my foot coming down from a jump. I screamed in pain and limped off the playing field. My sock had blood on it. I've had an entire big toenail pulled out twice in a procedure and the 2nd time, the nail bed was disturbed and it didn't grow back normally afterwards.
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Never Say Never Again.
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Theres no shame in admitting that you enjoy a shitty bond film and the man with the golden gun is no exception because ... Christopher lee is one of bonds best foes, miss goodnight is so stupid it almost requires repeat viewings to laugh at her, nic nac was the verne troyer of his day, the finale in which bond and scarymother face off in what appears to be a theme park is cool, there is some classic shitty 70's martial arts action and of course that stunt where the car goes ... wooooooo ..... wooooooooo. oh and lets not forget sherriff j.w pepper of louisianna "lets go get em boy"
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Remeber on the space station when Moonraker told Jaws his GF would have to die. And the camera for a moment focused on her looking like Bambi with big tits, then Jaws lashing out at the henchmen. Yeah that moment rocked!! Stupid cheeziness but man that was funny.
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only thing missing was "Kung Fu Fighting" in the background.
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He's a decent actor but Dracula with bad teeth I never understood. And if you're the worlds most expensive assassin you think he could afford a decent dental plan.
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off my keyboard
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Third nipple.
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That could be because Chang was played by Christoher Plummer--a GREAT Shakespearian actor who played Marc Antony several times onstage (it's his line)--as well as Hamlet and Lear and the rest, along with that god-forsaken "Eidelweisse" schlock...
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Bond was being held in a tv studio and had to fight his way to freedom. Used props, basic boxing techniques and dodging items thrown at him. One of Britains deadliest secret agents, I think not.
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Aug 09, 2010 2:02:45 PM CDT
Moonraker also has the awesome moment where
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
Bond shoots a sniper out of a tree on Drax's estate while pheasnat shooting. "You missed, Mr. Bond" Roger (arched eyebrow): "...did I?" That, and a pigeon doing a double take, one of the stupidest things I've ever seen in a movie.I used to hate Monnraker, but it makes me laugh so I can't hate it anymore. I really came around to it. I think it also has Bond's highest lay count in any of the movies (except maybe OHMSS where he was serial bed hopping), including a Brazilian chick that Moore urges to disrobe a bare two minutes after meeting her, with the mere cosmic power of his eyebrows.
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Who knows how he might describe it.
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the power of moores eyebrows eh. sheer magnetism darling.
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What was the main girl's name in Moonraker? She was one of my faves.
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ouch! i hope you dont mind but i laughed at your scenario. i often laugh at other peoples pains. for example, if a guy got kicked in the nuts, id laugh. cyberskunk whats your thoughts on roger moores eyebrows?
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Holly Goodhead played by Lois Chiles I believe.
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yes thats right ... goodhead.
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And was it Bach in Spy Who Loved Me? She was yummy, too
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They were none too subtle with the innuendoes by the time they got to the Moore films!
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You know the movie poster looks pretty good.
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yup barbara bach.
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and him as his own agent, think Moore and his movies would get a lot more love.
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til Goldeneye. Believe it or not. Its on wikipedia under Moonraker.
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moonraker has the highest gross.
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phil mitchell acting all drugged up. very amusing. for all the americans and other parts of the world eastenders is a british soap that has no happy people in it or sunshine. its a depressing medley of rough alcoholics and chavs whp work in laundrettes. its pretty good. as this is a film site i better say something related ... I love Drew Barrymore In Doppelganger.
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That wasn't a surprise at the time; they wanted to capitalize on the Star Wars / space popularity and succeeded
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That's the way...make them wait for that Inception review. It 's a smart way to keep them yearning for it. Oh wait, you're just being a lazy fat bastard. Oh, NEVERMIND!
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Aug 09, 2010 2:32:18 PM CDT
Thunderball is the biggest grosser when adjusted for inflation..
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
Bond was a phenomena of the swinging sixties. But yeah, Moonraker was one of the biggest...And Licence to Kill one of the lowest. There wasa lot of competition taht summer - Batman, Indy 3, Lethal Weapon 2, etc. That was also the last time Bond was released as a summer blockbuster.
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Was ridiculously yummy in TSWLM...many a teenage fantasy starred her. Ringo got to tap that piece of ass in her prime....lucky bastard
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I don't mind your laughing at my description. It must seem somewhat remote. Regarding Roger Moore's eyebrows, I do not think I have much of an opinion. The closest I could come to one would be to say I did not like him particularly as Bond, although that's not what you asked.
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He is back....like a fucking disease he won't go away.
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whats the biggest grosser ever after inflation .... Young Guns?
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Aug 09, 2010 2:38:54 PM CDT
Even adjusted for inflation Avatar (and Titanic)
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
sit inside the top 15 of all time, the only 2 movies of the last 25 years to do so. Inflation is also an inaccurate judge of box office popularity. Gone with the Wind was released about 10 times and there were little other forms of competing entertainment in those days. I was only making a point.
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you're story was quite funny, mainly bcos i can imagine the pain you must have felt. I trust your toe is fine now? where are you from cyber?
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Aug 09, 2010 2:40:48 PM CDT
Rick Moranis; what the fuck are you talking about?
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
What the hell has Honey I Shrunk the Kids got to do with anything?
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but until Goldeneye, Moonraker was highest. Goldeneye then got bumped by Casino Royale.
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Lol.
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SW, made money the fastest in those days, Gone with the Wind took years to make it's money back.
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If you didn't copy and paste other people's posts, you would be slightly more tolerable. But only slightly.
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sold. Inflation screws everything up. Recall in terms of tickets sold Gone with Wind was 1#. But that was about 15 years ago. If you look up highest grossing movies on wikipedia theres a section on the effects of inflation.
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When you think of 1989 do you think of HISTK? NO. Well, I don't anyway. Timothy Dalton > Rick Moranis.
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Is still tops in tickets sold.
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gives adjusted gross for all the films. That should answer any questions.
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Aug 09, 2010 2:52:32 PM CDT
Number of tickets isn't that accurate, either...
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
Too many incalculable varaiables. The best way to judge success is against a movie's nearest competitors, ie. other films of the day.
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sneak into another? That just sounds so stupid. Like you forgot what you were gonna see. Dumbasses.
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Don't plan to either.
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Aug 09, 2010 2:58:24 PM CDT
Look Brothers and Sisters...Harry is NOT a Movie Critic...
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he is a 12yr old Cheerleader, and that is how I have come to read his reviews.
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Long live John McClane
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And I bet Trannyformers Apologist will see it again 10 times.
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Saw it once, just to see it. It was good. Don't know If I would chose to watch it again. My lady loves it, so i may wind up watching it again some day, since I make her watch a lot of movies I love.
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Q: I believe he's attempting reentry
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Aug 09, 2010 3:03:47 PM CDT
If MGM fuck up Daniel Craig's run, it will be a disgrace...
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
The sooner Barbara Broccoli and Michael G Wilson turn over the reigns to someone else the better; they have fucked the Bond series over, and MGM's problems aren't helping. First thing to change - let auteur directors do Bonds. Sam Mendes was on track for doing one, and Christopher Nolan wants to. Spielberg, Tarantino, and even Peter Jackson are all huge Bond fans and have expressed interest in doing one over the years. Let them, and give them complete control.
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They finally stopped Mr. Bond.
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by the time the legal issues and sale of MGM are resolved.
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Gone with the Wind HAS to be #1.
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No one cares about anything you say douchebag. Fucking idiot.
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Better than I expected, but one long ass movie. Clark Gable bangs a hot but high maintenance chick and treats her like crap. What's not for most of you TBers to like? Scarlett shoots a soldier in the face! War! Carnage! Rhett Butler's cracks about simple minded darkies!
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came on and yelled at me. I still hate it.
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Historically accurate, solid acting, script first rate, pacing is good, relationship between Scarlett and Rhett is believeable and real, cinematography whew!! music score. Just a perfect movie with no dead space. Plus Rhett as a lover, husband and father is as good a performance by a strong man as you can get. And Scarlett as the spoiled belle thinking love is a game til its too late. Wind is what movies are supposed to be like.
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Just like I repect the work that went into AVATARS CGI...but it in my mind is still far less than the sum of its parts.Sure it is "Epic", sure it is impressive and loaded with talent...but it is just not that fucking entertaining to me and the script and acting really date it. But again...my opinion
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Two men who gave their hearts to women only to have them break them. Dames.
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one of the few Bond movies to flop at the box office?
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No problem.
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My toe's pretty much fine now, thanks, except for the weird growth of the nail. I'm in San Diego, California.
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Perfect in every way
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Wow, thats a drop off.
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yes i knew that, although it still made its money back, it was just a flop by the standars set by previous bonds. licence to kill flopped big time. i think that was the worst flop of the franchise. did something like 30/40 mill in the states compared to the normal 100/ 200 mill.
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With what they did to make him work along is worth our respect. But the movie itself stands the test of time. Not to mention the beauty and beast aspect.
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how shitty.
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Dalton should have had at least three attempts. Hs third film was suppose dto be called The Property of a Lady and was set in Shanghai, involving robots. Sounds abit goofy, but still. He was also considered for an early incarnation of Goldeneye, and you can still see some of Dalton's gritty style in that one, before Brosnan's Michael Bay 90's action style completely took over in TND.
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Not for liking the movie, I'm sure it's good fun. It's just that you have no impartiality... you're not the first journalist to write a review to please a star or a studio... but you do it with so much geeky gay abandon. Have a little class that's all I ask and try using real words.
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where are you getting your figures from regarding box office gross for live and let die? box office mojo says live and let die made 35 mill stateside.
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You want EPic...That is fucking epic. And holds up surprisingly well even today.
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I think it was huge for the first weekend, but it's one of the Bond Brosnan movies to make the least money.
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The totals are using inflationary figures. Sorry, should mentioned it.
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Lawrence of Arabia.I checked to see if there is a hd of it to download,but i only found HDTV releases.great.i bet they havent released Citizen Kane and the 3rd Man either.let me check.
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that studios won't get behind today I don't think. Back in the day, studios weren't afraid to do big epics. Just every shot made you feel like you were there with Lawrence in the desert.
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it huge for 1st weekend but fell a lot in the second week.
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Box office mojo.com is the best site online for box office figures. you can't go wrong there. The site has The world is not enough at a worldwide total gross of 361 million. The fact is all of Brosnans bond outings did excellent businness and were amongst the highest grossing of the entire series. Goldeneye did 352 million, Tommorow never dies did 333 millions and Die another day did 431 million, which was the biggest ever bond until Casino royale which took over 500 million. Altogether Brosnans outings made over 1.4 billion dollars. he was bond box office gold.
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it was not a flop. it did great business and made over 120 million dollars stateside and over 200 mill overseas. therfor it made more money than goldeneye. that is not a failure.
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Right about the Brosnan stint, reliable numbers. Which party wanted to get rid of him? I mean he wanted to keep the role and he was money in the bank.
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i think the producers saw how daft die another day was and wanted to return the series to a more gritty style, and bourne was of course popular at the time, so i guess they felt brosnan had his run and he wasnt getting any younger.
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But even in the 80s Moore's movies made more money. Compare that to Die Another Day which did excellent business next to Lord of the Rings.
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Aug 09, 2010 4:03:36 PM CDT
On THAT I think we can agree...Movies suffer for lack of Locatio
by conspiracy
I do not care how photorealistic CGI gets...the human eye can detect the fakery. I'd love to see films go on location again..and not just BS second Unit shit..but take the fucking production to some hell hole and make a film..."Put them in the Shit". And it isn't just the scenery either..location shooting helps bring out good acting...and give the entire crew ideas that only a physical location can. Sure it is expensive in this day of 20 page riders and mandatory on set Day Spas....but wouldn't you LOVE to see a REAL OLD SCHOOL EPIC made with todays shooting styles and equipment. My God..it would be beautiful.
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Ironically Brosnan was running into the same problem Connery did toward the end of his run. Which was an overreliance on gadgets. He also wasn't too happy with number of product placements in the last movies. Thanks for all the info. Chat with you guys later.
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Avatar yeah its cool but you know its fake. Lawrence you know its real.
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Yes I did actually love the hallway fight sequence, not for the action persay but for the way the gravity ties into the whole choreography of the fight sequence. ie. when the van is falling it shifts the perspective of the fight. And I only mentioned the comparisons to cameron because someone mentioned cameron's action scenes to nolan's. But I will always say I prefer insomnia over any of nolan's films.
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And then Batman Begins. His other ones are just too weird.
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There are no alien rainforest with 1000 foor trees and bizarre flora and fauna on earth. There is no other way to create the environment of something like Avatar other than CGI. Not so with Lawrence, which takes place in the real world.And no, I call bullshit if you could tell the environs of Avatar were fake, unless you were privy to that knowledge befoehand - that forest looked 100% realistic. Many people were fooled and could not believe it was an all CG environment. There absolutely comes a point when CG becomes indestinguisable from the eye, and studies of he optics would congirm it. It will only increase as CGI gets ever better. A lot of this 'what looks real and what doesn't' is romanticism and comes from behing the scenes knowledge of film geeks, and them retro-actively mapping it onto the films. A casual audience doesn't know.Still, we are talking about sci fi/fantasy films - that's a different kettle of fish from period epics like GWTW and LOA.
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I don't even have to see it now, I KNOW it'll be good.
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Not weird at al, just a well done film with a great cast, great cinematography and a great storyline.
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from all the James Bond movies is the mini-camera view on sunglasses gadget in True Lies which ofc is a JB movie that Cameron always wanted to do but never had the chance.The spy has literally eyes behind his back and he can use it to see if he is being followed or gain view access in areas where he cant be when something is happening,as nicely was demonstrated in the movie.
Second best gadget should go to Brosnan's x-ray glasses for the obvious reasons.
The 80s Mission Impossible series had some nice gadgets but the problem was that they were too futuristic and solved a lot of problems which otherwise would need the wits and muscles of the spies themselves.They were the equivalent of the deus-ex-machina particles in the ST:TNG series.
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that oozed out acid so you could escape from jail cells.
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Even if you are only going solo. Let's get that mother over $3 billion. James Cameron gotta eat!!
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Most movies filmed on location in jungles still look fake. Take a look at the Sci Fi movies, or Predators. Even Jedi looks like it was filmed in someones back yard.
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Aug 09, 2010 4:42:39 PM CDT
Jedi and Predators look like what they are...
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
movies filmed in naional parks, passed off as alien worlds. So much for 'photo-realism'.
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it could cut iron bars like butter.heh.
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Remember in OHMSS where Q had the radioactive lint?
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Good on ya sir... http://tinyurl.com/26vg8xr
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i understand why it was a flop,too much blood and gory death in there for a mainstream entertainment franchise.but i like the movie and Dalton's incarnation of the Bond character which is a predecessor to Craig's Bond.and it was nice that Davi was not your typical "bad guy wants to rule the world" villain,the guy was only a latin a drug lord who wanted to make some bucks.
favorite dialoge:
right hand assistant of the drag lord: Oh great,your stupid idea just cost us 80m more.
drag lord: then we should start cutting the expenses.
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http://www.zuguide.com/image/Robert-Davi-Licence-to-Kill.5.jpg
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Look at any old school location shot...you can almost smell the decay, dust, sweat. Look at the Preqels, or AVATAR, or even Indy 4...and you just KNOW there is nothing real there...pretty or not. The human eye can detect fakery no matter how well done..it lacks weight, it lacks dirt, air has never touched it and we somehow can detect that.There is a place for CGI...and that place is enhancing the "real". Not only that..but there has yet to be a believable performance in front of a screen CGI set. When the actors don't believe in it...how can the audience. I have yet to see Inception...perhaps that will change my mind..but right now..I am not a fan of the way Hollywood currently makes films..I much prefer REAL sets and Locations as much as is possible.
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The planet of Avatar was not meant to be real world. It's a fantasy movie. You just hate CG.
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But bashes them endlessly makes me chuckle.
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You there?
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You know it.
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Aug 09, 2010 5:05:17 PM CDT
Conspiracy, you just shot yourself in the foot.
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
You do know that Avatar was 60% CGI, and 40% live action, right, and that even the terrible Indy 4 and SW prequels had a massive amount of model work and live action elements, contrary to popular belief? So much for just 'knowing' there is nothing real there. If I were to get out a pointer and instruct you pick out which elements in any given frame of these films was CG and which was real, I positively guarantee you would have about a 50% success rate or thereabouts.As for great performances in front of green screens, LOTR, Avatar and many others prove you wrong - particularly since advanced technology now provides on-set simulations to show actors what they are looking at.
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Just checking.
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yet, it doesn't get bashed. Wonder why?
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Of course he's here. He's the king of AICN.
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How's it going, brother?
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What's going on guys?
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Aug 09, 2010 5:19:06 PM CDT
It would not surprise me if Harry had created all these
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
Scott Pilgrim sock puppet accounts to shill that execrable piece of bilge.
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Can't complain.
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Seriously, you either get this movie or you don't. I get it...I'm watching it, and I'm sure I'll love it. Kudos to Sly for bringing back the 80's action hero!
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Does anyone else gotten tired of Harry praising a movie based on his urge to masturbate?
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The usual.
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He was just plain awful.
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It had live action elements in there regardless, and it all blended seamlessly and looked indistinguishable and organic. That was the point.
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thats not coincedental or anything?
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Scott Pilgrim Vs The World is going to be the biggest film of the year. It's all anyone is tweeting about right now!
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You know it's true.
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Looked like he walked off the set of an H.R. Pufnstuf episode.
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it talked as slow too
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He is the greatest director working today.
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He has incredible comic timing.
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fake CGI and non-existent acting,i simply post this pic which is my favorite moment in the entire movie:
http://bit.ly/cdHk62
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Welcome to the revolution...
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damn they started bleeding again.
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Maybe better way to compare them is that both are the best so far for the worlds they present to the audience.
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as with myself he is too busy working and scribling in between phone calls, customers and odds and ends to worry about the spelling and grammatic minutia that only a repressed secretary would care about;...that however doesn't mean he is a bad doctor or his opinions are not worth listening too. But I degress,....I don't hate CG...I just see it as a crutch..a lazy way to make a film, that often delivers a subpar experience and detracts from the film as a whole. Sure CG has it's place in simplistic visual driven populist crap like AVATAR...but you can not tell me that a film like that has near the feel of one of the Epic classics. Even the dirt in Avatar seems clean...the dust in Raiders...it almost choked you.
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If you don't think about Mary Elizabeth Winstead all the time... you are gay.
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HE IS AICN.
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I am your master.
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in View to a Kill. Or did he?
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scratch
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'Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World' is the future of movies. The world will never be the same again...
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Real dirt doesn't glow in the dark. WHAT WERE YOU THINKING CAMERON!!!
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I'm a girly girl and I fucking love these 80s-style action movies. Love Lundgren and love Sly. This will be awesome.
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Aug 09, 2010 5:47:59 PM CDT
SCARLETT, so you had an erection with "Phantom Menace"?
by nic_cages_real_hair
You must be easy to please
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... Are jealous of Edgar Wright. He is the best director in the world, and he is cooler than all of you.
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Edgar Wright is a genius.
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Take your lady to Scott Pilgrim, sneak in some Colt 45 and you my young jedi warrior just might get lucky with your Princess Leia - Billy D Williams
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"The taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems is in dispute"
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'Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World' is going to have a record-breaking opening weekend. It looks like it's going to be the biggest film of all time.
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Who's your friend when things get rough?
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...the entertainment industry's greatest auteur. Can't do a little 'cause he can't do enough.
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The fact that you diss Avatar, Citizen Kane and 2001, while praising GI Joe and Transformers, proves you have the brain of a gnat.P.S. Remember to buy a ticket (or three) for Avatar: Special Edition on August 27th!
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...isn't expendable. He doesn't have to be against the world. The world loves him. Treebeard would love HR Pufnstuf if they ever met. HR Pufnstuf knows what the real unobtanium is. Mary Elizabeth Winstead is in love with HR Pufnstuf. Edgar Winter and Hilary Clinton agree that HR Pufnstuf is the world's greatest political filmmaker. Kubrick wanted HR Pufnstuf to direct AI but HR Pufnstuf let Spielberg do it because he still felt sorry that Spielberg lost his magic flute. Billy Dee says HR Pufnstuf works every time. Jar Jar Binks was HR Pufnstuf's inside joke. Oh yeah, and I am pretty jazzed about seeing the Expendables. I'll be spending some time with HR Pufnstuf right before I go.
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Aug 09, 2010 6:33:31 PM CDT
"Simplistic, populist crap like Avatar"
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
Or maybe idiotic, ill-thought out anti-CGI rants, eh?So Avatar DIDN'T have dirt, weight, lighting, movement and substance in its CGI? I wonder what film you were watching, since it was abundantly clear that the visual effects artist had specifically addressed these problems, hence why Avatar was one of the first heavy CG films to feel utterly epic, tangible and most importantly...warm. This is pretty much inarguable. Anyone critiquing Avatar on a technical level is a buffoon. You're backtracking and contradicting yourself because you know you're wrong.
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There really should be a big-screen version of HR Pufnstuf.
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Oh, and they should give free joints along with the tickets.
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yeah this is from the scene in dirty harry when harry has to run all over San fran while taking scorpios calls.
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Now I've read everything.
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I want a big-screen version of Bigfoot & Wildboy. Nothing could match that for sheer hallucinogenic genius.
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Aug 09, 2010 7:00:07 PM CDT
What's this SHIT on "Pilgrim"?? This columns on EXPENDABLES!!!
by jonchambers
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Aug 09, 2010 7:00:28 PM CDT
What's this SHIT on "Pilgrim"?? This column's on the EXPENDABLES
by jonchambers
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Aug 09, 2010 7:01:36 PM CDT
Will Harry want to masturbate to SCOTT PILGRIM?? Oh No!!!!!!!!!!
by jonchambers
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Because it's cheesy and over the top intentionally which comes off like a bad Mad TV skit from a deluded by now nearly 70 year old action star who is sad he came at #2 in the 80s action star rank and his delusions increased from the whatever muscle growing drugs he's injected in his body. 80s action movies are great because the filmmakers believed in them and did it with a straight face kind of like Ed Wood did his movies which makes it beautiful. Bennett from Commando wasn't looked at as gay in his musctache and chainmail vest and leather chaps, that was seen as badass and cool back in 1985.
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Aug 09, 2010 7:03:33 PM CDT
If Harry gets a woody from PILGRIM-I'm going to Latino Review Mo
by jonchambers
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What, I'm supposed to prefer Inception becuase a cadre of earnest fanboys has anointed it as one of the greatest artistic achievements of all time, when it was in fact anything but? Inception was hideously overrated. It was a good movie, but not even near Nolan's best. Avatar had more emotion and engaging characters...and incalculably better action. Inception bests Avatar only as far as convoluted plot mechancs are concerned. It was uncinematically flat and unengaging, though certainly a cut above the usual summer fare.
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Aug 09, 2010 7:05:01 PM CDT
Does CGI GORE give Harry a boner?? Uh-Oh!! EXPENDABLES!!!!!!!!!
by jonchambers
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Aug 09, 2010 7:05:50 PM CDT
You insult Stephen Lang's kick-ass performance
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
and equate him to Cobra Commander? Fuck you. Shut up and pre-order a ticket for Avatar: Special Edition.
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Scott Pilgrim is going to wow us like nothing since Rick Springfield showed us all that "Love is hard to find" in Hard to Hold.
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becuase it had tits and rape in it. I doubt a fool like you would have grasped its deeper meanings. Watch Kubrick movies; you might just learn something. Doubtful, but heh? Stop polluting your brain with Sommers/ Bay garbage. If you want great entertainment, watch Avatar!
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Aug 09, 2010 7:15:57 PM CDT
Inception was derivative, you fucking turnip...
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
Paprika. Dark City. The Matrix. The Bourne movies. Dreamscape. The 13th Floor. And MANY others. Do not be selective in your reasoning, chimp.As for Avatar being predictable - did you know going in that Sigourney Weaver would die, or that Worthington's body would die and his conscience be permanently transferred? That the biological ecosystem of the planet would come to the heroes aid? Twit.
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hates Avatar, but praises GI JOE. That's all you need to know right there.
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were Sands of Iwo Jima and the Cowboys. Why? He died!! The duke getting killed. Both times from behind. It was unexpected and was important part of the movie. Whereas with the expendables, no one going to die. No suspense, no they actually killed so-and-so moment. And that takes away from the thrill of a movie like this.
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"These are the action icons of our lives - spanning OLD SPICE ads to some of the greatest action films ever made." WTF? Yeah...we know you hurried to write this. It's like your brain threw up on your keyboard and you didn't bother to clean up. Harry's writing is normally borderline awful, but this review is...sadistic in its badness.
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guess I'm shit out of luck!
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admit it.
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The movie was very straight forward and linear despite his mountains of exposition.The things you describe as 'predictable' in Avatar could be said of hundreds of movies. Those are necessary story beats for a particular kind of movie.And once again, fuckhead - Unobtanium is a real life engineer's term for rare or theoretical problem solving material for a given application. You clearly do not even like, or understand Inception, either, using it only in your ignorance to try and bash Avatar. Go back to watching GI Joe, or preferably - just fucking end it all.
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FUCKING YOUR EYEBALLS, AUGUST 27TH!!
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Aug 09, 2010 7:50:53 PM CDT
One thing different from Dances with Wolves
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
Yes, I can clearly remember the part in DWW where Kevin Costner transferred his consciousness into the body of a Native American to infiltrate their tribe on orders from his superior.
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Costner bores the hell out of me.
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Aug 09, 2010 7:59:09 PM CDT
My Inception review is the best on this site...
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
I laid out my opinions with reasoning and without bias. Harry, meanwhile, couldn't even be bothered to write one, let alone a good one. I deserve to be running AICN...I guarantee there would be 24/7 Avatar coverage.
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Aug 09, 2010 8:01:41 PM CDT
The presupposition inherent in that statement was that
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
you had an IQ above 70! That's the part you missed.
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Aug 09, 2010 8:02:40 PM CDT
Thus, Inception is too complicated for YOU
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
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Reading comprehension!
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Scott Pilgrim is going to be the coolest thing since a permed Al Pacino cut the funk in Cruising.
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Aug 09, 2010 8:10:21 PM CDT
The material was not literally called Unobtanium
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
That's a joke name, a colloquialism coined by the inhabitants of Pandora.And its property undisclosed. Why? Because it's a McGuffin! It's not necessary to spell it all out explicitly and its irrelevant to the narrative anyway. Though clearly, in your case, Cameron greatly underestimated the lack of intelligence of his audience."The script element that Fox had initially objected to was Cameron's failure to explain unobtanium, the precious resource that sends humans to Pandora to strip-mine the planet ruinously. "Unobtanium" is a joke term engineers have used for decades to describe any needed mineral that is rare, costly, or difficult to obtain. "Unobtanium is beaver pelts in French-colonial Canada," Cameron explains. "It's diamonds in South Africa. It's tea to the nineteenth-century British. It's oil to twentieth-century America. It's just another in a long list of substances that cause one group of people to get into ships and go kick the *beep* out of another group of people to take what is growing on or buried under their ancestral lands."
For Cameron, the specificity of unobtanium is not important. He likens it to the precious briefcase John Travolta and Samuel L. Jackson retrieve in Pulp Fiction--you don't need to know what's in it, just that people are going to die for it. Despite Fox's objections, he never explains in the movie what makes unobtanium worth the trouble of interstellar travel. But the answer to that question is that the substance's room-temperature superconducting properties make it the key to cheap power generation back on Earth, where all the oil has run out. Unobtanium is crucial to running ships like ISV Venture Star, which delivers the humans to Pandora. The unfortunate irony is that the more unobtanium humans mine on Pandora, the more they will be be able to travel there." -
Meanwhile, people lap up Vampire movies and don't question where they come from.
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Aug 09, 2010 8:16:34 PM CDT
There is nothing that Avatar's critics can throw at it
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
That cannot be justified or explained. Your kind are only exposing your own stupidity.As illustrated above, Cameron sometimes writes accesible, simple (though not simplistic) stories, but never condescends to his audience, like Mikey Bay does. Unfortunately, the Scarlett Titty Milks of this world make the Fox execs' urgings to spell it all out so that EVERYBODY GETS IT look not entirely unreasonable. Fucks like you are why studios make movies for dummies!
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Aug 09, 2010 8:19:06 PM CDT
I guess Kubrick should have explained all 2001 as well
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
And Nolan should have limited the levels of dream reality (and their escalating relations to each other) to only one.IDIOT!!
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It would lose its archetypal and metaphorical power if it did. Its not necessary to know what unobtanium is to understand the plot, and if idiots want to make fun of it because they are uneducated then so be it. Cameron obviously didn't give a fuck; he doubtless knew that there would be idiots who would, and simply didn't care. Good on him, I say! It was a cool nod to the sci fi literary classics he read growing up and that inspired the movie, and was cool to the geeks in the know. Sorry you don't read and watch shitty reality shows and shovel junk food into your gaping hole all day!
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Aug 09, 2010 8:28:48 PM CDT
They should have been given visible 10 inch cocks
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
like Doctor Manhattan in Watchmen, just so Breast Milk can jerk off to his heart's content.
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(aside from simply looking cool and being anice contrast to the green forest) is a nod to Hindu deities like Vishnu, which are alwats depicted as blue, hence tying into the term 'Avatar'. Your choices of black and grey are banal, just like the urge to make every superhero costume black leather. You are akin to Jon Peters who declared Superman's costume 'too faggy'.They also had an early idea to make the forest vegetation all blue and purple, even during the day. They tested it and it didn't play well to the eyes. Looked too unreal, and would take the audience out of the believability of the world. Sci fi can be fantastical but there is a limit; it must always be grounded. Next!
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There's a reason why they are blue and why they have yellow eyes.
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The Navi should have been blue-leather clad canibals who were queer for mother earth and took to poking holes in muddy creek banks and giving it the old in/out when they weren't gnawing on some bloke's ribcage. Cameron would have had his second Oscar then, but hey what do I know right Jim?
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Never heard of it.
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Turn off the computer, have a beer or some junkfood and relax. Scarlett and Turd you two have been going at pretty good, call it a night please. I don't think anyone will think less of either of you if you take the rest of the night off.
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and thats what I had to do. Please.
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Cannibals.
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If anyone on these talkbacks takes them deadly seriously they should get a life.
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i cant take it anymore.I almost died by the laughs while you kept savagely pawning the sorry ass of that moronic troll Scarlett_. haha ;).
yo Scarlett,here a word of advice: stick to Transformers and Gijoe and My Little Pony,since your intelligence is sufficient only to comprehend basic things like the shape and color of turds,rather than cinematic masterpieces.it will protect you from needless (but infinitely funny)pathetic amount of pawning by true and high intelligent people like Turd. -
The Haters talk about it all the time. That is the definition of success.
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But your advice to Scarlett's Breast Milk will fall on deaf ears. You might as well be advising an amoeba. And of course, he will doubtless go and see Avatar's re-release, no matter how much he professes to hate it, then come back and continue bitching about it here. In fact, like most trolls, he's probably already seen Avatar more times than either of us combined!
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And I hate and I hate and I hate.
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Take your cheap purses and discount shoes and ram 'em up your ass sideways.
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but I can't take your movie reviews seriously. They're just packed with hyperbole.
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btw Scarlett South Park takes on Avatar too.you can use that too,since you are incapable of supporting your hate with logical and comprehensible arguments.check Family Guy,maybe something to use over there too.scratch.
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Or a girlfriend.
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Aug 09, 2010 11:45:35 PM CDT
If Endless Exposition had 7 dream layers = a smarter movie?
by flip63hole
I'm starting to get the feeling that if the next Transformers movie has more robots it will be equally "intelligent". Maybe if the next Hostel movie takes place in a multilevel dreamland where generic characters explain everything to the audience it will be the smartest torture porn flick ever.
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lets see:
Avatar in RT http://bit.ly/60RpiX
Critics meter: 83%
Top Critics: 95%
Community: 92%
Verdict: FRESH
Scarlett_ is a stupid cunt: 100%
ladies and gentlemen i present you Scarlett_ the troll who is so retarded that his arguments which he presents in order to support his statement,are actually supporting the opposite side.you can laugh now. -
It must be the mustasche.
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cripes people.
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this is the biggest tb so i might as well ask it here.
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Miko Lee- only liked her for her can-do anything attitude, sad about her sewered tits though.
Adriana Sage- pretty cool pornsonality
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Cause it sucks.
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Aug 10, 2010 3:25:37 AM CDT
Scarlett's Titty Milk, why did you waste your time
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
posting an inconsequential review from a no-life fanboy fuckhead? Do you think it actually proves anything?How about I post a review from a credible, professional reviewer who actually matters and isn't an over-emotional fanboy virgin with daddy issues, like, you know...Roger Ebert?AVATAR
BY ROGER EBERT / December 11, 2009
"Watching "Avatar," I felt sort of the same as when I saw "Star Wars" in 1977. That was another movie I walked into with uncertain expectations. James Cameron's film has been the subject of relentlessly dubious advance buzz, just as his "Titanic" was. Once again, he has silenced the doubters by simply delivering an extraordinary film. There is still at least one man in Hollywood who knows how to spend $250 million, or was it $300 million, wisely.
"Avatar" is not simply a sensational entertainment, although it is that. It's a technical breakthrough. It has a flat-out Green and anti-war message. It is predestined to launch a cult. It contains such visual detailing that it would reward repeating viewings. It invents a new language, Na'vi, as "Lord of the Rings" did, although mercifully I doubt this one can be spoken by humans, even teenage humans. It creates new movie stars. It is an Event, one of those films you feel you must see to keep up with the conversation.
The story, set in the year 2154, involves a mission by U. S. Armed Forces to an earth-sized moon in orbit around a massive star. This new world, Pandora, is a rich source of a mineral Earth desperately needs. Pandora represents not even a remote threat to Earth, but we nevertheless send in ex-military mercenaries to attack and conquer them. Gung-ho warriors employ machine guns and pilot armored hover ships on bombing runs. You are free to find this an allegory about contemporary politics. Cameron obviously does.
Pandora harbors a planetary forest inhabited peacefully by the Na'vi, a blue-skinned, golden-eyed race of slender giants, each one perhaps 12 feet tall. The atmosphere is not breathable by humans, and the landscape makes us pygmies. To venture out of our landing craft, we use avatars--Na'vi lookalikes grown organically and mind-controlled by humans who remain wired up in a trance-like state on the ship. While acting as avatars, they see, fear, taste and feel like Na'vi, and have all the same physical adeptness.
This last quality is liberating for the hero, Jake Sully (Sam Worthington), who is a paraplegic. He's been recruited because he's a genetic match for a dead identical twin, who an expensive avatar was created for. In avatar state he can walk again, and as his payment for this duty he will be given a very expensive operation to restore movement to his legs. In theory he's in no danger, because if his avatar is destroyed, his human form remains untouched. In theory.
On Pandora, Jake begins as a good soldier and then goes native after his life is saved by the lithe and brave Neytiri (Zoe Saldana). He finds it is indeed true, as the aggressive Col. Miles Quaritch (Stephen Lang) briefed them, that nearly every species of life here wants him for lunch. (Avatars are not be made of Na'vi flesh, but try explaining that to a charging 30-ton rhino with a snout like a hammerhead shark).
The Na'vi survive on this planet by knowing it well, living in harmony with nature, and being wise about the creatures they share with. In this and countless other ways they resemble Native Americans. Like them, they tame another species to carry them around--not horses, but graceful flying dragon-like creatures. The scene involving Jake capturing and taming one of these great beasts is one of the film's greats sequences.
Like "Star Wars" and "LOTR," "Avatar" employs a new generation of special effects. Cameron said it would, and many doubted him. It does. Pandora is very largely CGI. The Na'vi are embodied through motion capture techniques, convincingly. They look like specific, persuasive individuals, yet sidestep the eerie Uncanny Valley effect. And Cameron and his artists succeed at the difficult challenge of making Neytiri a blue-skinned giantess with golden eyes and a long, supple tail, and yet--I'll be damned. Sexy.
At 163 minutes, the film doesn't feel too long. It contains so much. The human stories. The Na'vi stories, for the Na'vi are also developed as individuals. The complexity of the planet, which harbors a global secret. The ultimate warfare, with Jake joining the resistance against his former comrades. Small graceful details like a floating creature that looks like a cross between a blowing dandelion seed and a drifting jellyfish, and embodies goodness. Or astonishing floating cloud-islands.
I've complained that many recent films abandon story telling in their third acts and go for wall-to-wall action. Cameron essentially does that here, but has invested well in establishing his characters so that it matters what they do in battle and how they do it. There are issues at stake greater than simply which side wins.
Cameron promised he'd unveil the next generation of 3-D in "Avatar." I'm a notorious skeptic about this process, a needless distraction from the perfect realism of movies in 2-D. Cameron's iteration is the best I've seen -- and more importantly, one of the most carefully-employed. The film never uses 3-D simply because it has it, and doesn't promiscuously violate the fourth wall. He also seems quite aware of 3-D's weakness for dimming the picture, and even with a film set largely in interiors and a rain forest, there's sufficient light. I saw the film in 3-D on a good screen at the AMC River East and was impressed. I might be awesome in True IMAX. Good luck in getting a ticket before February.
It takes a hell of a lot of nerve for a man to stand up at the Oscarcast and proclaim himself King of the World. James Cameron just got re-elected." I think you and that other cunt reviewer (was it that bell-end, Mr. Plinkett?) just got owned. Again.
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4 stars out of 4.
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Numerous reviewers did not say that Avatar' story was weak. Many praised it's story, message, and emotion, and Ebert's review is only the tip of the iceberg. If you'd actually read most of the reviews you'd know that, but like all disingenuous trolls you must resort to lies to slam the film. In fact, a chap over at the IMDB posted a link to a page where there was gathered numerous quotes from dozens upon dozens of major reviews to prove to trolling, lying idiots that the claim that Avatar was only praised for visuals and not story was utterly false.Buy a ticket for Avatar: Special Edition! Join the party!
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Aug 10, 2010 3:36:52 AM CDT
Rotten Tomatoes...where Star Trek is rated 94%
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
Ahead of Inception, Avatar and D9, due to the utterly arbitrary way they calculate 'fresh' reviews. Real credible. You stupid, stupid cunt.There is NOTHING you can say to bash Avatar in any credible manner. The movie was an unimaginable, unimpeachable success, and it drives you trolls utterly BATSHIT....much to my eternal glee.
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Ebert was right. Try reading a few books instead of wasting your already miniscule amount of brain cells on that rot. Then you may learn a few things...like the fact that 'Unobtanium' is an engineering term!
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Aug 10, 2010 3:52:37 AM CDT
Here's a fansite review to balance things
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
out with Ebert's professional critic one.REVIEW: AVATAR
By Nick Nunziata Published 12/11/2009
Masterpiece
Pronunciation: \ˈmas-tər-ˌpēs\
Function: noun
Date: 1600
1 : a work done with extraordinary skill; especially : a supreme intellectual or artistic achievement
If you want to go by the definition above at its most cut and dry, Avatar could be considered James Cameron's masterpiece. It's the culmination of his career's work, carries many of the signature throughlines and trademarks the director is known for, and seems to be a punctuation mark on a career filled with substantial genre milestones. Cameron's a serious talent whose attention to detail and militant approach to his work has been a divisive and vital part of his work and Avatar represents the man exorcizing seemingly every creative demon in his being with almost pinpoint accuracy. This is the work of a man possessed, a vision and execution so singular that it's hard not to be awestruck by the depth of it. From the effort devoted to the flora and fauna of the film's world of Pandora to the intrinsic technical detail bestowed on the human aspect of the movie to the sheer force of will and near lunacy it took to create the equipment to make and project the film there is no doubt that Avatar is a work done with extraordinary skill and a supreme intellectual and artistic achievement. The word masterpiece may be too strong or it may be the only word to properly describe Avatar.
More than The Lord of the Rings was an extension of its auteur and more than The Matrix was psychically linked to its duo of filmmakers, Avatar is hardwired to its creator in a way films of this size simply cannot be due to reality and the nature of the business. But it is. That's why the film took so long to reach screens. That's why it apparently may be one of the costliest films ever made if not the costliest. That's why on many levels this is an impossible dream of a film, something that could never meet expectations or justify its own existence under the weight of its ambitions.
But it does and make no mistake, this is a film worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as The Matrix and The Lord of the Rings. It's epic, visionary, breathtaking, and as immersive as any tentpole film in recent memory.
And no trailer, teaser, or sizzle reel can do it justice until you see it living and breathing on a very big screen in 3-D. As I sat in the theater my doubts, suspension of disbelief, and cynicism melted away as Pandora came to life and took me in her arms.
Avatar is not the future of storytelling or the reinvention of the wheel. It's pulp, but pulp done with the best toolbox Hollywood can offer and pulp created by someone who knows and loves pulp like very few others. It has as much in common with Edgar Rice Burroughs as it does with Dances with Wolves. It has elements of the work Frank Herbert, Hayao Miyazaki, George Lucas, David Lean, and William Wyler yet is unmistakably James Cameron.
The plot is a familiar one. An indiginous species has something of deep spiritual value to them. An invading species sees monetary value in that thing and will take it by force. An invader becomes close to the indiginous species and sees the purity in their way and tries to defend it, but not before much is lost and many lessons are learned.
Its plot is the least impressive part of Avatar. It's a formula that has been tried and tested and worked but it'll never set the world on fire in terms of creativity. The plot is one of the very few areas that the cynics will find faultlines in what is a resoundingly complete experience. The dialogue and execution of the plot is excellent, however.
Sam Worthington is Jake Sully, a Marine who lost the use of his legs in combat whose identical twin brother was part of a massive program linking human beings to the alien race known as the N'avi at the genetic level. His brother was to have donned an 'Avatar', walking in the body of the large blue creatures in order to survive in Pandora's atmosphere and interact with its people. When his brother is killed before able to participate, Jake literally and figuratively steps into his shoes since he shares the same genetic code. No fan of planning, research, and tact, the malleable and untrained Jake represents a man caught between worlds. To Grace (Sigourney Weaver), the project leader and peace-loving liason to the N'avi he represents a clumsy distraction to her mission and to Colonel Quaritch (Stephen Lang) he represents a Trojan Horse to plant amidst the N'avi to gain intel for a messy and resolute endgame.
In actuality, the Avatar program allows Jake to walk again. To run. To have nearly superhuman abilities when compared to his shattered and seemingly useless human form. He doesn't care about the N'avi. He doesn't care about the substance [here called unobtanium, which caused snickers from people in the audience who don't realize that's a moniker often given to things which defy classification] whose value has brought humans this far into space to mine for. He doesn't care about much, aside from having something to do and the ability to perform again.
Avatar is sort of a cypher until Jake begins to explore the world of Pandora because everything feels right. There's a sense of 'when is he going to drop the ball?' to the early moments because it almost feels like a follow-up to Cameron's Aliens. The tech of the human military is incredible, world-worn, and functional rather than showy. This handicapped man as your tour guide [or should I say audience avatar] through this cold and busy new world of man. It's all engaging and interesting and so very much Cameron [elements of The Abyss and Aliens course through much of this film, something this reviewer considers extremely good qualities to posess]. The x-factor is and always was whether or not these odd cat-like blue creatures are interesting enough and effective enough to sustain such a massive undertaking.
The N'avi are fantastic. They are fantastic as a technical achievement and as characters. The level of expression is considerably better than one is accustomed to seeing in the digital world and there's a life to them, that fire behind their eyes. Though their movements do at times have that weightless feel to them, a lot can be attributed to the size, proportions, and otherworldly nature to the creatures. This could also be considered apologizing.
Since a large portion of the film is digital and the performances delivered through the painstaking motion capture process, so much rides both on the work of the fine folks at Stan Winston Studios and Weta Digital and the actors themselves. It may not be seamless, but it's close. The 'hero' N'Avi characters as essayed by Worthington, Weaver, Zoe Saldaña, Joel David Moore, Wes Studi, and [the one and only] CCH Pounder are articulate, believable, and deliver excellent performances. They aren't showy but somewhat invisible once the film gets cranking. The biggest hurdle of the film creatively was to create living, breathing creatures we've never seen that coax an audience under their spell and that hurdle is leapt rather early on. From then on it's a cascade of action, spectacle, and surprisingly moving moments where the spiritual and natural underbelly of Pandora comes into play.
Cameron has made very cold movies and movies that embrace raw emotion and Avatar truly does feel like the marriage of those worlds. The Abyss did it well. This does it better. This feels genuine. It may sometimes border on familiar [the Dances with Wolves comparison is a fair one, but on the same note so are Dune, The Lord of the Rings, and Princess Mononoke] and we've seen the "Corporations and military are the ultimate evil" vibe before, in fact quite effectively in previous Cameron films.
It just works. A lot of that is due to the technical work and theme park aspect to watching a gigantic epic [and this is epic, no doubt] film in 3-D but it's moreso due to the great performances across the board, Cameron's very tight scripting, and the fact they just don't make 'em like this anymore. It works. It just requires a little bit of that wonder that made many of us such avid readers and consumers of celluloid.
And the best thing about the film, the absolutely engaging and unforgettable gritty epicenter to what makes this thing not only manna for geeks but something everyone will get a kick out of?
Stephen Lang.
There should be a special Oscar for the man for one-upping nearly every hardass military guy we've seen onscreen and chewing scenery in the most appealing and iconic way possible. Every moment the man is onscreen we are seeing an entire career of amazing character work oozing through one focused and delightful performance. He could have easily been the mustache-twirling villain and he embraces that villainy with aplomb but his work is so sublime that you almost want him to win. Almost want him to escape unscathed. I could watch this guy play this character forever.
And there's a moment late in the film involving him and a little value added aspect to his mech suit that, if you don't get what kind of movie Avatar is then, you never will nor deserve to.
There are flaws. But in the grand scheme, they're dust in the wind. I could have done with a few less primal screams from the N'avi but it's a common trait amongst the tribal and deeply spiritual and animalistic races and there's no denying Cameron's attention to detail. He and his craftsmen have created machines, weapons, plant life, enviroments, and creatures that look and act cool but never at the expense of logic. You can believe a world like the one sprung from his imagination could exist. If nothing else Cameron is a perfectionist. His work is far from perfect, but his process and discipline reeks of attention to detail and the man has the ability to explain every screw, muscle, and physical trait's reason for existence and it's hard not to fall in line with the sheer vision involved.
The film is gorgeous, the relationships are effective, you actually feel for these collections of pixels and polygons, and I left the theater energized and entertained in a manner in which rarely happens. What you will get from Avatar resides in how much of a sense of wonder you still carry to the movie theater with you. If you are willing to fall prey to the magical escapism of movies and love the idea that true science fiction and true pulp adventure is alive and kicking in the theatrical world, you like me, will eat this film up.
If not, I'm sorry for you. This is what The Phantom Menace should have been. It's proof that all that buzz about Sam Worthington is legit. It's proof that the only downside to Avatar is how it allowed us to forget what a powerhouse James Cameron is.
I love this movie. Is it perfect? No. Is it immersive, entertaining, and breathtaking? Yes. Is it a masterpiece?
If you go by the definition above, I think it just may be.
9.2 out of 10Fail again. Shall I continue posting, or have you already wilted under my relentless barrage?
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home of the clown Devin Faraci who had a thinly-veiled vendetta against Avatar...still his partner gave it a rave.
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Why do you keep using it? Star Trek is better than D9, Monn, Avatar and Inception? Hahaha. What a joke.Next you'll be telling me Inception is better than Citizen Kane, The Seven Samurai, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Casablanca, etc., because on the IMDB rating system 1000's of 14 year olds have posted over and over again all day every day, awarding Inception a perfect 10. Fuck, you are naive. No wonder you believe in Alex Jones' crackpot conspiracies! What a lemon you are.
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I bet you're one of the plums who thought Avatar was ripping off Halo. Video games are derivative monkey vomit. Avatar's digital artists put more blood, sweat and artistry into a single frame of Avatar than the entire game of Bioshock.
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Aug 10, 2010 4:18:35 AM CDT
The story and acting in Avatar were top notch
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
The fact that you slammed the awesome performance of Stephen Lang, the best bad guy in the last 10 years of cinema along with Ledger's Joker, reveals your limited intelligence. Perhaps that is why you went into a coma. They should not have revived you.Wouldn't that be awesome? Avatar - a film so good it kills you! You can't buy that kind of publicity.
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Aug 10, 2010 4:50:54 AM CDT
Lang was the man, the script laid the groundwork
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
for that, fool. Ask the cast if they think 'the script turned them into cheesy stereotypes with laughable scenes'. Everyone is raring to come back for a sequel. Worthington was great; the only two other major films he's been in were garbage and didn't showcase his charm; Avatar did.Cartoon character? You actually think Joker is on a level acting wise with Marlon fucking Brando? Joker is a cartoon character in a popcorn genre film, you cunt - a good one!When are you going to end it all and stop stealing our precious oxygen?
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INCEPTION was shot on many real locations (even many set in the dream worlds), one of the reasons the movie ended up costing 160 millions. The same happened for TDK.
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Aug 10, 2010 5:21:38 AM CDT
Lang was widely praised, you human fart
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
Stop dredging up obscure, unsourced garbage from the very dregs of the internet. Roger Ebert does not agree! Ebert and I are qualified critics; you are a haemorrhoid with legs. Away with you!
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"Stephen Lang. There should be a special Oscar for the man for one-upping nearly every hardass military guy we've seen onscreen and chewing scenery in the most appealing and iconic way possible. Every moment the man is onscreen we are seeing an entire career of amazing character work oozing through one focused and delightful performance. He could have easily been the mustache-twirling villain and he embraces that villainy with aplomb but his work is so sublime that you almost want him to win. Almost want him to escape unscathed. I could watch this guy play this character forever."
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"And the best thing about the film, the absolutely engaging and unforgettable gritty epicenter to what makes this thing not only manna for geeks but something everyone will get a kick out of? Stephen Lang."Boo hoo, Breast Milk. I own you. KilliK owns you. Roger Ebert owns you. Colonel Quaritch owns you. James Cameron owns you. Avatar owns you!!
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GARBAGE
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I'm having a hard time understanding if you really think if INCEPTION is an inferior movie or if you are crossed that a guy who professes love for GI JOE and TRANSFORMERS is using INCEPTION was a weapon to bash AVATAR. If this is so, allow me to offer this thought to you: two good movies do not a bad movie make. You do not need to put down INCEPTION to praise up AVATAR. Personally i'm far more particular to INCEPTION, which i loved, while there's elements in AVATAR that i can't help but to see as flaws worth criticism. But i understand and even partially agree with you about many of the merits of AVATAR, so i understand why anybody loves it. But you have fallen into an argumentation fallacy trap, which is, someone thrown at you a really good movie to try to bash another good movie you liked, and you fell for it. We use bad movies to compare and elevate good movies, not use two good movies agaisnt each other. If you ask me, the Scarlett guy doesn't even really like INCEPTION, he's just screwing with your mind. Don't fall for his trick and turn it arroud, use his beloved GI JOE and TRANSFORMERS and compare and contrast them with AVATAR. You know what i mean? Two good do not a bad make.
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Aug 10, 2010 5:33:17 AM CDT
Why are you so upset that I criticized your precious
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
video games? Only basement dwelling obese virgins play video games.
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What about strategy games like ROME: TOTAL WAR and EMPIRE: TOTAL WAR? You can't play them with an ADD attitude and mindset, you have to have pacience and be attentitive. I have always been particular about strategy game like the TOTAL WAR games since very early. I find them far more stimulating then the shoot 'em up stuff. Well, that said, i do love the GTA games.
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Where have I used Inception as a weapon against Breast Milk? As I said, I enjoyed the movie just fine; it was a good movie, but with flaws. I would say much the same about it as you say about Avatar: good, but with reservations.No, what I took exception to, was this clown using RT and disingenuous online rating systems to justify a movie's worth. By that standard, JJ Trek is the top sci fi of the decade, and Inception, Avatar, D9, et al. are average. And I'm sure I know how you feel about that...As for strategy games/ RPGS - he doesn't play those kinds of things. He just likes the games that go boom, with loads of blood and 'spolsions.
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Has been slated in practially every single review I've read...apart from this one. probably going to wait until Christmas 2013 when it will be on network TV.
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it's covered everything from Sly's CGI wrinkle decrease, to Bonds best and worst, to the merits of Inception and Avatar, from Sam Jacksons wigs wife, to my toe nails, and now computer games. what in the name of moses will we be talking about next? Judge Judy?
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Please dont waste your time arguing with that mental midget Scarletswhatever...He has truly shown himself to be the current most obnoxious, childish, whiny, cry babay internet fanboy cliche. Just look at the hissy fits he throws because he cant actually handle and deal with the fact that some people like something he does nt. He has been so completely owned by anyone that argues with him, because argueing with him is like argueing with a 5 year old child. The very fact that he likes Gijoe and Transformers alone give anyone complete reason to disregard whatever garbage he spews....
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interesting. If I can ever return the favour re info about Korea or South Africa, let me know....
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and the news that its likely that Avatar 2 and 3 will be filmed back to back is that Avatar will be back in theatres to give him sleepless nights, and there will be two more Avatar films (and all the following expansion media)to piss him off even more, and drive him into even more funny bouts of ranting and raving about how much he hates Avatar lol.....Cant wait. God bless Cameron for making a film that can piss of man child afflicted, whiny internet fanboy crybabies.....
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No no, it was HE who used INCEPTION against you, against your love for AVATAR. That was the fallacy i was trying to warn you about. INCEPTION and AVATAR are good movies, one should not allow ourselves to fall for such traps.Well, as for your coment about "By that standard, JJ Trek is the top sci fi of the decade, and Inception, Avatar, D9, et al. are average", well, even those who say that are on a losing argument. To wit:INCEPTION is a SF movie (people going into each others dreams through use of technology, d'uhh) and in 3 and half weeks it has outperformed by about 100 millions the entire theatrical run of JJTrek, and it's still going strong. With both movies having similiar budgets, least we forget. And as a curiosity, 52% of the box office results of INCEPTION are foreigner, against only 33% for JJTrek.As for the JJTrek against DISTRICT 9 box office, even in that the JJHeads are on the losing side, because if we compare the box office results against the budget of the movies, we see things also run not too happy for the JJheads: JJTrek budget was 150 millions and the box office result was $385,500,000, which means a ratio of $2,75 of box office for each $1 of budget. DISTRICT 9 had a 30 million dollars budget and a box office run of $210,800,00, which means a ratio of $7.02 dollars of box office for each $1 of budget. So, even in this, JJTrek loses against DISTRICT 9. DISTRICT 9 proves to be 2.5 more sucessful then JJTrek in the box office/budget ratio. So there is no way whatsoever that a JJHead can ever claim that their beloved JJTrek is the most sucessful Sf movie of the decade. It wasn't even of the year 2009.I hate to use box office arguments in talking about movies, because they are no real indication of a movie's quality at all. but sometimes i do like the use the devil's own weapons against him, and in this case, the JJHeads and their dumb salacious fallacious dogmatic nonsense "arguments", their strongest always being the box office numbers in lieu of proper intelligent arguments.
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How's everyone this morning
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Just because the movie came down to a race that lived in a non-dustrial society was fighting for its survival against an invading industrialized one, doesn't mean it had an eviormental message. The story was one of the oldest in hollywood: all powerful bad guy and his army want to wipe out/conquer small group/community/society standing in their way. Its been done in westerns, samurai, gang, kung fu movies. As Alan Moore said, theres only so many types of stories to tell.
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The kid in me thrilled to the idea of a race that lived on the ground/trees/air and rode animals of all types, had bodies that could do things I never could is something that made the movie feel like real escapism. Plus the planet seemed so real made it that much better.
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coming out in sept. Looks like he's some sort of secret agent or assassin. Anyone have more info?
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Obviously you never meet THE_CHOPPAH. You do not know trollsih bullshit until you see him do his thing.I'm not exactly oblivious of South Africa's history, from the first time an european passed by your shores (a portuguese, of course, the sea explorer Bartolomeu Dias), to the dutch coloniation of Cape Hope, to the boer War, to apartheid and and your post-apartheid times, and your atempt to rule the world by turning everybody's brains into mud with the bloody vouvuzelas.
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Not too bad, thank you for asking. And how are you, my heartbroken friend?
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didnt succeed at our attempt to rule the world...heh heh. Actually I hate the fucking things myself. And there are small Porttuguese communitites all over SA. I guess a lot from Mozambique and Angola when your rule there ended..
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from Medeira, I have to assume it used to be a real shithole or something..
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Korea, so I gues I have to say good evening to you. How are you doing? I hope things start to look up fir you soon buddy.
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inane man-child. Btw Turd, what are your thoughts on the news that Cameron is seriously considering shooting 2 Avatar sequals back to back?
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if any of you are Spidy fans, and what your thoughts are on Raimi's films, and the current "reboot" by Marc Webb? What would you like to see done differently in a new Spidy flick...
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THE AMERICAN? It's a fish out of water story about an american hitman in rural Italy. There's a certain 70s vibe to the movie, which is a good thing.
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Yes, from the island of Madeira, exactly. Most of them are grocers, i believe, and into such related business.
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and are other Portuguese communitites in other parts of the world also from Maderia? For example the Portugeuse communities on America's North East Coast?
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how hot do you guys think Monica Bellucci is? Girls can reply too specially if you go lesbianly luscious.
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I think i hear Cameron say somehting to that effect if the first movie had done well enough at the box office even before it's release. Well, the first movie did well, to put it midly.
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I think i hear Cameron say somehting to that effect if the first movie had done well enough at the box office even before it's release. Well, the first movie did well, to put it mildly.
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SAG...doin ok, things are....stable, I guess at the moment, but that always changes, but I try just to keep my head up...and Asimov is right, you don't know trolling til you encounter the choppah, there is nothing sacred to that tool. Concerning your Spidey question....I loved 1 & 2, Raimi dropped the ball on 3, although i did not HATE it, it should have been way better, but I partially blame Sony Pictures for that, and applaud him for walking away when they tried pulling another power play on him. The reboot....ehhhh I dunno. Webb is a good director and all, but for Spidey? And rebooting only a few years removed from the 3rd film? I am sure I will see it, but honestly my hopes are not high.Asimov...Monica is crazy hot, that is one hell of a woman, she even looked hot in Tears Of The Sun, she was dirty and sweaty the whole movie but still had it.
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Well, Cameron initially said back in 2006 that he would shoot Avatar 2 and 3 back to back, and also Battle Angel 2 and 3; this was when he was planning a trilogy of each series. He sort of wavered from the idea a bit, but now seems to have gone back to his original plan. It's a good thing in my opinion, because it will mean we will get both movies sooner rather than later. Otherwise we'd be waiting decades, lol. BA must not fall by the way side though; we need that movie. And hopefully rated R - he now has the clout to do it. Or he could release an R rated version to IMAX and a 'clean' version to regular theaters, since with digital work you could easily add in or remove body parts or change the blood from red to blue. My thoughts on Spider-Man are that it's not Cameron's Spider-Man! I will forever rue that missed opportunity. Raimi's films are fine but Cameron's would have been the definitive take. I don't see any real need for this premature reboot, either. Spider-man 3 was botched by the studio's insistence on including Venom, not Raimi's incompetence. That series could easily have progressed to a 4th if he'd been allowed full control. Who knows what this Webb guy will do? Two things that could be improved from the latter films - give Spider-Man a sense of humor and wisecracks like he had in the comic, and a hotter Mary Jane please. She's supposed to be a supermodel. I never found Dunst attractive at all.And tying swiftly into that - AsimovLives: Monica Belluci. Very hot I'd say. Probably give her an 8 or 9 - now. Terrific for a women in her forties. 15 years ago she may have scored a perfect 10.
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sexy, sex on a stick buddy. And dont get me started on those delicious looking tits of hers. Anyway...Asi, Cameron did state long before Avatar came out that he was looking at making a trilogy, but this is the first time any mention has been made of two sequals being made back to back. Imho its interesting because its been done only a few times (BTTF, POTC, and the Matrix) and the results are at least always interesting because basically what seems to happen is that one long really ambitious, epic film gets made with a giant blast of imagination ala the Matrix sequals and the POTC sequals...(obviously its up to each individual wether you think this or a good or bad thing)
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sequals (personally I think that making them back to back will allow for Cameron to get a total blanck cheuqe from Fox, and thus be able to go totally ape shit with the Avatar sequals in terms of imagination seeing as many things were not done due to, believe it or not, budget limitations, such as the Medusa, the slinger. Those that have read the scriptment will know what im talking about) Much like how Verbinski was able to really let his imagination go wild with the POTC sequals due to the huge resources Disney gave him imho. And absolutely, Battle Angel Alita must not be forgotten. That film absolutely needs to get made. The Manga is so damn awsome...
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my friend. You can only have hope, and try your best.
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When Cameron wa stalking about the back to back entries before, he specifically stated that each movie would stand on its own, with a definitive ending, and not be akin to one super long movie split in two, with an underwhelming cliffhanger at the end of part 2, a la The Matrix and Pirates. He said: "I don't feel you should run an audience off a cliff like that." I agree; I hated those stupid cliffhangers, almost as if the filmmakers where taunting you to come back and pay again to see the rest of the movie. Not good for dramatic structure, I think. I remember seeing The Matrix Reloaded, and when Smith's real world surrogate was lying on the table and that stupid dum-dum-dum suspense music came up, cutting to black like a cheap Scooby Doo mystery, the audience collectively groaned.
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Raimi did a great job, but he got screwed by Arad and the studio on 3. Like you Turd, I would have loved to have seen the Cameron version since I really liked the scriptment he wrote. Interestingly its a much more adult, and real world take on Spiderman , ala Nolan's Batman films. Im hoping thats what Webb does with Spidey. I liked Raimis first two very much, but I think this new one needs to very different, and does indeed need to have a truly hot Mary Jane (shes supposed to be Monica Belluci hot for fucks sake), and Spidy needs to actually wise crack...
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in terms of them being one long story necessarily, but certainly linked, and being two parts of a larger whole. It can be done in such a way as for each one to stand alone, while still being very connected, no?
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wish as Marc Webb has stated that he intends to consult with Cameron about the new Spidy. I would nt be suprised if hes read Cameron's old scriptment, and is thinking of something along those lines. And we all know Cameron is a huge Spidy geek, so I dont think he would pass up the chance to have some impact on a Spidy film imho..
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Avatar sequals back to back, good or bad idea? And why?
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Aug 10, 2010 9:14:57 AM CDT
There's going to be a through line, definitely...
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
and a progression and a greater narrative arc throughout all the films. But each sequel will work as a stand alone like the first. Or that's the plan anyway. There will definitely be links: the travel to other moons will be set up in Avatar 2 and then will flower in the third movie.
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films. 500 Days of Summer, any good? What type of film maker is he?
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Aug 10, 2010 9:18:41 AM CDT
Cameron should be the mentor for the new Spider-Man
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
just as Nolan is shepherding Superman into existence, even though not actually directing.Yes, sequels back to back is a good idea; both for time and logistics and as you say, for demanding a HUGE budget to go absolutely ape shit. But there may be more than even a trilogy for Avatar, though whether Cameron will direct past that or just produce, is anyone's guess.
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Turd. I want to see the Medusa and the Slinger (easily two of the coolest things about the old scriptment).
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with Webbs filmography Turd?
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scriptment gets looked at for inspiratio
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from borrowing a number of elements, and even a whole scene from Cameron's old scriptment lol
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and that's the only film he's done, I think. That Bringing Sexy Back guy never stops going on about it. But it's supposedly a cynical rom com/drama - what they saw in it that made Webb suitable for Spidey I haven't a clue.
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One of Clooneys first films and JLo just before she really became popular. Her striptease scene with a nighttime chicago skyline is sexy and funny. But why was she wearing granny pants? The horror. Anyway its smart, funny and just a well done Leonard Elmore film.
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Does anyone think the fishies did that to create a buffet of any people caught inside? If so, whoa!! That quick scene of the girls fingernails digging into the dock as they're dragged backward was scary.
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ive noticed many TB'S are wishing you well. may i ask what the problem is? i'm a qualified nosy bastard.
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... Cameron's SPIDER-MAN movie. For everything cool and interesting he had, he had another weird and bad call. And if people think bad of Raimi's movie portait of Peter Parker, that was nothing compared to the absolute obnoxious shit that he was in Cameron's version. For all it's flaws, at least Raimi never forgot that the two most informative characteristic of Parker is his good nature and his humble and childlike innocence. In Cameron's story, Parker was an unsufferable arrogant ass. He was like all the bad faults in the portait of John Conner as a teen in T2 without any of the qualities. One could even say that his Peter Parker was like a teen version of the portait of James Cameron as painted by his most harsher enemies and detractors. And then there was a scene when Spidey uses an american flag as a parachute. It was cringing beyond belief! That's the kind of shit that's barely tolerable in a Superman or Captain America movie, it has absolutly nothing to do in a Spider-Man movie at all. I think we not getting a Cameron's Spider-Man movie was a good thing. The idea in theory sounds great, but i think he was the wrong man for the job.
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Aug 10, 2010 9:55:45 AM CDT
AsimovLives, I hope you read the right version
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
Because there's two Spidey scripts with Cameron's name on it online, but only one is genuine. I say that because I don't remember any parachute with an American flag in the genuine Cameron script. There is a script written by Menahelm Golam for Canon films back in the 80's, and that has Cameron's name erroneously attributed as writer even though he had nothing to do with it whatsoever. The old hack Golam must have done that to try and win a legal battle. But anyway...
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....arrives...out of breath, late to the party!....
FYI, the ship in disaster movie average-fest "The Core" was also made out of an imaginary alloy that gains tensile strength and rigidity the more pressure it is placed under, and they called that alloy "Unobtanium" in the movie.
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have you seen Shutter Island and A single man with Colin Firth? Ive received both from LoveFilm.com and i'd like your thoughts please. Also I need to add a few more titles to my LoveFilm list as they are currently less than 10 and they reccomend more than 10, ive just added Old boy and Audition, neither of these i've seen. good choices? and finally Asimov, are you still listening to the Inception soundtrack?
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Just in a very bad way financially, between the ex, my significant others ex, child support, a bunch of other shit, I am having an extremely difficult time getting by. Have had to borrow money from anyone who could spare it, had $1000 car repair bill that a friend put up for me, at one point I had to do all my shopping (yea even some food) at the local Dollar store. It's been like this going on 4 years now. Without fail, when things start getting better, something comes along and brings everything back down to the bottom. I also tire of my family telling me to tough it out, things will get better, blah blah blah. Easy for them to talk when they live comfortably. I am surviving, barely. I'm tired of just surviving, tired of having nothing, and tired of being told to be patient, just want things to go right for once and stay that way.So that's it, I hate sounding like a bitch, but after a while shit gets to you, but I try to keep positive, as hard as that is. It's ok if your nosy, LOL, I don't mind sharing.
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Aug 10, 2010 10:00:29 AM CDT
Yes, and the term 'unobtanium' is decades old...
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
The Core didn't invent it. Not to mention, it appears in Cameron's scriptment written in 1995...
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I and i'm sure others on here know exactly how you're feeling. If it makes you feel any better i and my partner are in a similar situation financially. both of us are up to our necks in debt and there seems little light at the end of the tunnell except the faint hope of winning the fucking lottery every week. both of us have borrowed money from family, banks, credit cards etc just to get by. I currently have a grand total of nothng in my bank account. i am spending the banks money, commonly known as an over draft, and i have about 40p (cents) left of that. I am currently sitting near the phone awaiting a call from my parents who are going to transfer more money into my bank account. i am 30 years old, no kids, no owned property, no car, no job and no pension. i also have a constant light testicle ache on the left side and its bothering the shit outta me. my salvation lies in the following, my gf, who keeps me moderatley sane and doesnt mind when i occasionally want to wank to internet porn, the cat that keeps coming into our apartment to sleep and eat despite us not being its owner and good movies that remind me that as long as i try to retain a sense of humour despite all the shit in my life, im gonna be ok, especially the speech sly gives to his kid outside his restaurant in Rocky Balbo. it never fails to keep me inspired. thank you very much, now where's my oscar?
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I was agreeing with you Turd, it just made my little ears perk up when I heard the phrase on the TV in that movie, and your debate with Tit-Scarlett reminded me of the random and useless factoid I just shared with you!
Hey Rogue, I know exactly where you are right now as I was there not too many years ago. It really, really does get better. Actually, it get's better than that because the enforced austerity 1) Makes you start to appreciate the value of money when you begin to accumulate it so you are less inclined to just spunk it on pointless shit and 2) It makes you really appreciate the stuff you do buy with it.
Stick with it, really do. And it helps to write down all your monthly ins and outs for a few months to get an idea where it is all going, you'll be surprised what you can claw back. Decent recipes with cheaper ingredients for people on a budget help. Saved my ass!
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the Cameron Spidermasn scriptment. As Turd has said there is more than one with his name floating around out htere, but only one genuine. I know I have it (and having read all Cameron's scripts I can easily identify his writing, nevermind that you can also easily recognize all the things that were used in Raimis's films), and read it recently, and I can promise you there is no such scene that you described Asimov. Also, Peter is not like you mention either. Do yourself a favour and read the real scriptment Asi, but bear in mind its just a scriptment, a rough outline more than anything else. Plus keep in mind that Cameron intended Leo Di Caprio to play Spiderman, and you can say what you want but there is no way Peter would have ben played the way you describe by him, that fucker has too much charm...
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question? What educational background do you have my friend? As in did you complete university? Because if so dude, you may want to consider coming to Asia.
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hear that. What is going on with our generation? I know that things are bad job wise thanks to this endless financial crisis, but I know a lot of people are really hurting. Jackgraham, are things generally that bad in the UK?
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The reason why there are so many portuguese from Madeira immigrants in your country is simple: they were escaping poverty. Madeira was a very poor place, with endemic poverty. And by poverty i mean real misery. The island's beautiful landscape hide a harsh social reality, the general poverty of the people living there. Which only recently things have gotten beter thanks to investments from EU's money. People from Madeira were quite literally running away from dark misery, and they mostly went to your country but also Venezuela (in the 50s and 60s that country was experiencing an economic boom and presented as a land of oportunity). In the other portuguese atlantic archipelago, The Azores, the people there, who also suffered from endemic poverty much like in Madeira, only they chosed to go prefenrencially to Canada, with smaller numbers to the east coast of USA. In the movie MYSTIC PIZZA, Julia Roberts, Lili Taylor and Annabelle Gish play portuguese-americans in a small town in the east coast populated by portuguese imigrants from Azores and also the continental province of Algarve.This emigration movement was not just from the insular portugueses, the continetal portugueses who lived in rural areas also tried their luck outside the country, many times in great danger because they exited illegally, they were too poor to pay for visas. Those continental portugueses emigrated preferencially to France. They were so many there, that there was one million portugueses registed in Paris! This makes Paris the second city with the highest portuguese population after Lisboa.On a personal note, i have a friend, also called Carlos like me, who emigrated to London 20 years ago, and he now has his whole life there, married with a fine portuguese girl and they had a child born in UK, little Matilda. And as for myself, my parents got this close to emigrate to USA, because they had personal friends who had and lived in New Jersey, in the town of Harrison 20 miles away from New York City. Had life turned differently, i would had been born in USA myself, in the east coast. I would had been a jersey boy or a newyorker!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z5OookwOoY
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The scriptment i read had the organic webshooters. That was a Cameron inovation.
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I mean they should take that guy and stick him in the warehouse at the end of Raiders. Still shudder at the movies he did Superman IV, Capt America, Delta Force. Wouldn't be surprised if he had a hand in Batman and Robin.
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it's interesting you mention our generation. i dont know how old you are but i'm 30 and i grew up in the 80's and 90's. the 90's is commonly refered to as "the slacker generation, meaning lazy, misdirected, unambitious and generally lost. I'm not blaming my generation for my current troubles, I believe you must take responsibilty for your lot in life, but there is definately alot of people from my generation who are truly lost in the real world, and far worse off than me. I don't drink, smoke or do drugs and many people in my area do because they say it gets them through life. The U.K i'm sure is in no worse turmoil than any other country effected by the recession but the area I live in (North of Scotland, Inverness area) is severly lacking in new job opportunities. the average job advertisement in the newspaper or job centre will be for a dry cleaning assistant or a waiter or a bar man. mediocre jobs paying minimum wage. there are many people out there who would rather remain on benefits because financially they are better off than taking one of these shitty jobs. I don't even claim benefits because my girlfriend earns a substantial income and the benefits agency wont pay out to couples when one of the couple is working and earning a certain amount of money. anyway, yes times are tough here in the U.K for many people, we have the highest number of unemployment ever. my partner and i are thinking hard about moving to the London area where more opportunities exist job wise and career wise.
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exactly what you re talking about.
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The American flag shenanigans is indeed from the fake script, and it's an absolutely terrible script at that. If you've read any of Cameron's scripts his writing style and prose description are quite distinctive. I read it years ago and knew something was off; later I found out it was an earlier script penned by the Goram/Globus turd factory as outlined above - the purveyors of Chuck Norris, cut-price Superman, and sundry other atrocities - complete with a fake publication date and Cameron's name to make it look like the real deal. Similar stunts have been pulled with various other scripts, including many fakes of indiana jones 4. I'm not surprised you thought it was shit if you read this version. Cameron's true version is terrific. No cheesy bullshit in it.
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Don't let the horror stories over property prices scare you. There are plenty of cheaper options and house shares. Also, you can commute in from Kent / Essex etc. in under an hour stright to the City or the West End depending on what you do. If you / your girlfriend have any desire to work in financial services or the creative industries then, I am afraid, it is the only place to work. Worried you would miss the space? Then live outside the M25 and commute.
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interesting. Weird to think of how life could have turned out eh? Anyway, also, as Cameron's scriptment is just a scriptment, theres very little actual dialouge, just descriptions of scenes etc.., so you cant really attribute much characteristics to Peter, either good or bad. The scriptment really just presents a "feel" more than anything else. And its really short too (like 40 pages)And as I said there a lot of scripts out there with Cameron's name on it (and which copied ideas like the organic web shooters), so you need to check that its actually the old scriptment you have read
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knew that horrible sounding scene with the flag was not in Cameron's script. But fuck me Turd, there are some bad Spidy scripts that were written over the years Spiderman was in development hell. We are damn lucky we ended up getting anything as good as Raimi's Spiderman imho..
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Great line from the movie Used Cars. 1980 comedy with Kurt Russell and Jack Warden. Both play sleazy car salesmen. Directed by Robert Zemeckis and produced by Spielberg and John Milus. And when the main characters name is Fuchs, you know its got a broad sense of humor. Anyone remember this movie?
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I gave INCEPTION score a bit of a pause, so don't get fed up with it, you know?I saw SHUTTER ISLAND and surpassed my expectations. i really dig it. As for A SINGLE MAN, havne't seen it yet, but it looks good. Colin Firth is a one hell of an actor.
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My gf is from Horsham originally, although she spent most of her adult life living in Brighton, which is where most of her friends live. she moved up here in Scotland to be with me but as i said we are thinking to move south. She likes Brighton and its a consideration, but the last time we went there on a break, I got hit on by a guy in a club, who proceeded to kiss the back of my neck from behind. i ran out at this point. Anyway, we are both creative minded people so living in the heart of London is maybe the best option. my gf's sister is a film producer, she's just finished producing the new Toby Kebbell film in London called "The Veteran" I wanna see if maybe she'll take us onboard as her coffee maker or other such slaving duties. it would be worth it just to be involved in the film industry, then someone might spot me and make me a big star :)
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Aug 10, 2010 11:06:32 AM CDT
If Cannon had had their way we would have gotten
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
someting akin to Albert Pyun's Captain America movie or Roger Corman's Fantastic Four. Unwatchable garbage produced on a budget of about $10. Remember when superhero movies were treated with no respect? In fact, wasn't there a crappy set of Spider-Man TV movies in the 70's? I think they were released theatrically in Europe. Raimi's version had its faults, but was still respectable.
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do you guys work? if so what do you do? Do you need an assitant to make you coffee and give you foot massages?
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what line of work are you in, what agegroup are you in. are you of the slacker generation too?
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Thing is, the wcriptment actually describes the personality of Peter Parker, which says he's one of those shy kids but with a lot of swagger and know-it-all attitude. Cameron did described the character's personality. And he didn't went with the peter Parker as we know and love, he went and he did HIS Peter Parker. And turned him into an asshole.And this is something i have noticed in many filmmakers who have little or no skills in dealing with characterization, they make their main characters into assholes. And it's not a case of a movie portaiting an anti-hero with questionable morals as the lead, like in John Boorman's POINT BLANK. No, i'm talking about asshole characters which are supposed to be the hero, the audience's identificatoon figur,e the guy we are supposed to root for. This is quite common to find in movies directed by directors with lesser skills in characterization, like in the movies of Tony Scott, James Cameron, Michael Bay and Jar Jar Abrams. And no, i'm not comparing Cameron's talent with the other 3 hacks, but Cameron is hardly a master of characterization like, say a Coppola, Scorsese or James Ivory, is he?
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and cap had a tv action movie. Christopher Lee was the villain that movie was bad. But as a grade schooler watching the spidey show it was cool. One villain controlled people with some sort of mind control chip, another was a Mr White. You knew he was a real bad guy cuz spidey had to travel to california to take him down. Thanks for the memory trip Turd.
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Thanks for enlighting me on that subject. You actually lift a weight from my whoulders. it was quite depressing the idea that Cameron had been responsible for such a bad scriptment full of bullshit. Thanks, buddy.
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For the words of encouragement,it does help.Jack...I see we are kindred spirits LOL, both on our asses.....sucks but I am surprised how good my attitude is most of the time, being down just makes it worse.Tabs....I hear ya bro,I already appreciate it when I have a little extra, I don't think I will ever piss my money away again....ok maybe a little, but never again like I used to.SAG...relocation is not an option for me, as hard as it is here for me, I cannot be away from my children. The mere though of it upsets me. It's actually a good idea, and were I not so close to my kids I might actually consider it. But I can't, they need me, and I need them.Jack...yea I work,I am a PC tech for an outsourcing firm. The job is good but the money is not, I was forced to take an entry level position even though I have 4 years experience. But it's a job, which I was not able to get for almost 2 years so I am grateful to have it. The money will slowly get better, but it's gonna take time as it is a small company. But I am sticking with it.Well if I missed anyone my apologies, I gotta eat my bargain lunch now LOL
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You forgot me, fucker!!! DIE!!!!So, did you listen to INCEPTION's score? It's great, you should listen to it when you have the chance, amigo. Check it out, buddy.
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How could I for get you my friend??? I shall bathe in razor blades to atone for my sins!!!!!!!I will check it out, I love film scores....I may not always love the movies they are from, but good music is good music
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Ypou don't need to go to such extreme as razor blades. Barbed wire would suffice.
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That was.....adequate....lol....some frozen lunch thing a relative dropped off for me...supplemented with a bag of chips otherwise i'd still be hungry LOL...I can't wait til I can actually splurge on some fast food once in a while....god that is pathetic, when fast food is a treat...FML...LOL
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are too spectacle heavy? As you mentioned Asimov, Cameron isnt a hack but because his last movie were top heavy on the visuals that he had to cut effort or screen time on character development? Take Terminator which was a nice little film that allowed some character development and ended with Sarah Conner changing from a woman dealing with a "serial killer" stalking her to finding the strength to do what was necessary to beat the terminator. Same with Aliens and Ripley discovering a maternal instinct. I do wish he'd try a small film with no grand ambition ala titanic or avatar. Just a small pet project he's always wanted to try. With more emphasis on characters and less action.
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I was saving that to use on the ex and her new bitch...I mean husband LOL.
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I second that notion, seems Cameron is more spectacle now than he ever was. Sure he is good at it, but he's also good at less ambitious things as well.
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You should live in ehre then. With as much as 8 bucks you cna have full meals and they taste great. Portuguese cuisine is just great. Foreigners love this place because of that, good food at low reasonable prices.
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Sounds awesome, that's one thing about NY, everything is overpriced. Ehhhhhh.....I'll get back to a comfortable state, just gonna take time.
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The Choppah? Have not seen that tool since yesterday. Fucker pisses me off, been copying my posts since he got on here. That's a troll for ya huh?
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He almost did that, in the early 90s, for a movie called THE CROWDED ROOM. It was a character piece about a serial killer who had 20 different personalities in him. It was supposed to star John Cusack. The movie was to have a budget no bigger then 5 to 10 million dollars, and was supposed to be set only in the prision and was basically an extented set of interviews with the Cusack character in different personalities. It was one of the most interesting projects Cameron was ever involved and nothing came out of it.
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That would have been cool especially if you lived in or near NYC as there are so many events,independent cinemas,Comic Conventions and the array of Women from various backgrounds and cultures. (Yummy!)No doubt you would have a good time here, as long as you can endure the hustle and bustle of City life and avoid the Jersey Shore as it has been "Snookiefied" as of late.
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And I think at the time, Cameron was looking to try new ideas and get away from action heavy movies. He was in the coveted position of having commercial success and could do something that his audience wasn't used to. Would have liked to see Cusack in a multiple personality role. He did a wonderful comedy Gross Pointe Blank. Hitman attends his high school reunion. Great concept, soundtrack and Joan Cusack as his sister. When they do the song pressure in the movie its so sweet. Yes, I used the word and its appropriate for the scene its played in.
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It was lame, but as a seven year old I checked it out and dug it. Spider-Man on The Electric Company in the early 70s was just as good. Plus, they had MORGAN FREEMAN baby
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Wore a jane outfit with the jungel helmet. Spidey would should show up, "shoot" some fake webs that flew and you'd see bad guys stuck in webbing. 70s kids shows. Oh, remember the "Brocoli, how we hate you brocoli" song? Ok, I'll stop now.
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Have him back in the 30s with a new lead? Won't happen but thats the only way to revive the franchise to me.
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i too consider a McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Pizza or an Indian a treat. the good news is we won't get fat on or diets of soup and crackers.
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True bro, true. Actually I don't eat all that bad, the future Mrs. Rogue works and together we get by, food is one thing we try not to skimp on too much. We do, especially the last two weeks, but normally i'd have to say food wise it could be much worse. I have a tiny breakfast, a skimpy lunch but always a good dinner. So there are compromises, but it balances out a bit in the end. There is a lot to be said about Dollar store food, some of it is just as good as anything name brand, you'd be surprised. I did go out to lunch with the boss man last week and I had an Angus burger at McD's, alas, I did not pay but still I felt like a king.....sad, very sad.
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When I was a child, I used to have a subscription to Electric Company Magazine my parents got me and had a vinyl abum for the show. When the Bakshi version of Lord of the Rings came out, there was an article about it in the magazine. I recall being asked by a teacher where I read about it but I did not want to be mocked by my fellow elementary school students, so I didn't provide the magazine name.
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You will find this place full of fans of GROSSE POINT BLANK, myself included.
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Do you realise that "Rouge" is red in french?
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You two are breaking my heart with your stories of budget eating. I weep for you two. Really, it's so sad and depressing. If i could i would send you two guys a CHOURIÇO, so that you guys could understand what is really tasty food and for very cheap prices as practiced here. My heart bleeds and my stomach aches for you guys. I have the rest of the day ruined now!
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In 3d grade during class public knowledge quiz, teacher asked where is superman found. I was the only one who knew and one of the smartasses said I should cuz I still read comics. Course I had to fight him at recess, matter of honor. Like kids fights back in the day, it was a lot of wrestiling and weak punches before the teacher broke it up and we got detention. And I do remember having those subscriptions and occasionally they'd include a 45.
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Side salad, unsweetened tea, some shredded store cheese and a packet of tuna on top. Do that twice a day and helps a lot with the budget. But I hear ya guys everything is tight. Work 2 jobs myself and I'm lucky to have them.
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Seriously dude, like I said earlier, I always eat a good dinner, the rest of the meals are just a bit on the lean side. It's not that I don't eat, I just don't have enough to have 3 good meals in a day, so i have 2 so so ones and one good one. So be it, this is how it is at the moment. I have gone through worse believe it or not. It will get better in time, no worries my friend.Chourico,are you referring to the sausage? If so I love it, have had it many times. Always get it at the Hispanic delis around here, won't get store bought.
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Saw it once on tv back in the 70s. Was edited but still was good movie. Was the scene with Roger Moore on run from british mob and has 2 grenades in his coat. Must be a british thing.
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Got that right! $1 menu is awesome. Been thinking about a 2nd job myself...don't want to but may not have a choice...we'll see.
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...your lips to God's ear, my friend. Because the economic signs for the next couple of years are really scary, even before you factor in the damage to the world economy our rather interesting summer of 2010 is doing. I grew up just about as poor as you can in America. I don't want my kids to get even a whiff of that.
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don't worry my friend, i'm not starving. Much like rouge i eat rather well considering my budget. having said that, Chourico sounds lovely and if you wish to send me a shipment of the stuff i wouldnt say no. asimov, could you also send me fries with that?
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my brother used to work in a london restaurant called Cafe Rouge. he made me a delicious steak and mustard baguette with fries, on the house. i must call him!!
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I want some too!!!!!!!
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As much as I complain about my ex, the one thing that I am grateful for is that with the salary she makes, my kids do not go without stuff. I cannot give them much at all and It breaks my heart, but at least I know they are taken care of....for the most part.They know when they come to see me on the weekends that we wont be going to the movies or out to eat, or whatever. We go to the free community pool when it's hot out, do stuff outside, sometimes we go to the beach, but most of the time it's just home. Good thing they have friends in my neighborhood, so they are not totally bored all the time. But the thing is they understand, they know my situation, and they don't care about money, just being with me is enough for them. They are only 10, 10 and 8 but they are more understanding and sympathetic to my situation then their mother is, she could learn a thing or two form her kids.
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i'm from the UK, so we don't have dollar stores but we have something very similar, its called rummaging through our neighbors gargabe bins at night. some good deals too. seriously though, we have a chain of stores called Farmfoods, in which everything is cheap and frozen. we also have poundland in which everything costs a pound. what part of the world are you from Rouge?
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U.S., New York, Long Island specifically. Poundland sounds like your equivalent of our dollar stores.
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having just read your post to Red Ned, your situation sounds very similar to Robin Wiliams character in Mrs Doubtfire. just reading your post was like reading the synopsis of that movie, with the exception of you dressing like a scottish nanny of course. in that movie, you may recall robin williams has seperated from his wife, and she has custody of the kids, and they visit at weekends and eat chinese take out and play in the park and stuff. if my life was a movie it would be Down and out in beverly hills!!
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for you guys which means more Colt 45 for me, Billy and the ladyeees.
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please do come along. i spare no expense when guests arrive (not that any ever arrive) on the menu is canned tuna on crackers, a bottle of my finest tap water and for dessert, poundlands own branded yoghurt. please ... bring friends.
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Never thought of it that way but you are right. Although I don't remember the last time I had Chinese food...months. We do make good meals for them though, they can't complain there, and my house is where they watch movies, they know Daddy always gets the goods for them.
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new york ha. wow, iconic place, seen in many news stories and movies but never personally visited bcos ive never won the lottery. i live in scotland, not too far from loch ness. maybe ill go fishing in the loch and try reel the monster in. all that meat will last at least a year. hey asimov, if you send me some that chico sausage, ill send you some nessie meat. deal?
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having split from your ex, are you now happy with another woman?
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its 9.05pm here in UK. Passenger 57 has just come on, another die hard clone albeit a fairly cheesy entertaining one. john cutter eh. always bet on black. oh credits are rolling and bruce greenwood and tom sizemore are in it. forgot about that. i didnt forget liz hurley was in it tho. this title music is awful.
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Tell William Wallace I said hello! LOLYes I am with another woman and quite happy. She is awesome. She has some kids of her own as well, one of them lives with us, her daughter. Great kid. I am a lucky man in that respect, now if the money would get itself right all would be well in rogueland. LOLP57...good cheesy DH knockoff, definitely fun. It is 4:10 pm on Tuesday here, and time for me to go home!! Will be back later!
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...excellent to hear. My young ones are twelve (in three days) and eight. Here's hoping for a better place for the kids.
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how old are your kids? do you let them watch r rated horrors and such? when i was a kid my parents always allowed me and my sister to watch whatever they wanted.Nightmare on elm street, hellraiser, psycho, mac and me! irresponsible or open minded? who knows. but you know what i think i turned out ok, despite not having a nickle to my name. or a job. or a car. or any property or future hopes outside of winning the lottery....... hmmmm.
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TPs on me guys. Gotta go. Bye.
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...in the suburban Midwestern climes where I have fled from the west coast. Home from the day job with a particularly nasty summer ick that has given me the dead, red, nearly swollen shut eyes of a zombie and too fevery to do much of anything constructive writing. Good part about it is my wife stayed home with me because I seemed so awful, so aside from being occasionally dizzy, constantly having my eyes mat up and being wracked with coughs that make my entire chest feel like it's going to explode, it's been all right.
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I was eight years old when my dad took my family (mom, too) to "The Gauntlet." I remember VIVIDLY my mom standing up in the middle of Sandra Locke's rape scene on the train and screaming, "I can't believe you brought the kids to this this!!!"And speaking of Sandra Locke and rape, what the fuck was Clint's deal with her and rape scenes? Fetish much? Outlaw Josey Wales, The Gauntlet, Sudden Impact - it was like some kinda voyeur/exhibistionist/rape thing was going on with those two.
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"...can't believe you brought the kids to this SHIT!!!"
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suburban midwestern climes. is that in the USA? sorry man, if only you said a state.
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thats funny man. i cant top that. although i recall when i was about 15 my step father came into my room and asked for the tape recording i made of basic instinct when my mom left the house to go to bingo. pervert!
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Aug 10, 2010 3:28:37 PM CDT
its 9.30pm here, im in the future guys. its the same shit.
by jackgraham
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...were not careful with what I watched. In fact, they took me to drive-ins where in addition to the Euro-horrors that played as the second and third features another screen would be showing X-rated movies with only actual penetration shots removed. And yet, the two movies that bothered me the most were The Wizard of Oz and Suddenly Last Summer. So go figure. I thought I'd be really loose with my own kids, but...well, I'm more permissive about what I let them see than any of my child rearing friends...but for R rated films I don't get close to Fulcis or Romeros or Argentos. I let them see Halloween last Halloween, and my daughter (the almost 12 year old) successfully lobbied for Scanners because one of the characters shares her name. But Trick-R-Treat is about as tough as I've let them go.
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french horrors inside or martyrs, thats another story.
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...Independence Missouri, suburb of Kansas City, where you can buy a pretty good house for next to nothing (because, yeah, Missouri). For me it was coming back home. I grew up in Kansas City, which back in the day was actually one of the worst metropolitan areas in the country and still boasts public schools that have been unaccredited for more than two decades. Independence has great schools, is very safe and boasts friendly Mormons of the non-Salt Lake variety who still think the place is The Garden of Eden. It isn't but compare to Los Angeles...king of close.
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That would be on their 16 plus list.
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Michael Douglas film Falling Down completely changed my perception og L.A. Before that i thought it was all disney land and movie stars.
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...even. Plus, home of the only man to ever drop an atomic weapon on anyone, who, ironically, lost his job in large part for standing up to a nut that wanted to drop a bunch of them on China.
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...not that scary, really. Unless you go to the very worst places you can. I lived in West Hollywood for a pretty long time and although I didn't like stepping over homeless people to get to my apartment I never felt as threatened as I did in parts of Wyandotte County Kansas (Kansas City straddles Missouri and Kansas) and if you're a Missouri boy that's about the stupidest place you could be. Los Angeles is stupidly expensive (my mortgage for a brand new house in Independence is less than half what I paid for a one bedroom apartment with a tiny deck in Los Angeles, despairingly hard to get around in, icky to look at and (especially bad for a kid who grew up with seasons like fall and spring and days that either stayed hot or cold) climatically challenging. On the other hand, you're driving distance from mountains and beaches and all sorts of beautiful places. Good seafood, good restaurants, always something going on. And contrary to most folks perceptions I found people in Los Angeles, on average, more friendly and helpful than those anywhere else I've lived.
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I mentioned a single incident of rudeness to someone I know and this person started talking about how people in California tend to be rude and I forget what-all, and that it was due to limited resources, and she was glad to leave it. Living here as I do, I found this offensive, although I would find such a blanket statement about state to be not worthwhile.
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Oops, meant "about any state" not "about state".
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Never had the oportunity to watch WILD GUEESE. You recomend? As for that thing you mentioned, well, it does sound like a brit mob thing, why pack a pistol when you can carry two handgrenades? I mean, you ever saw GET CARTER? And i mean the proper Get Carter, not the Stallone travestry. In it, the only packs a pistol by the end, and he barely uses it. When he's about his business, he does it on a more personal, direct, and coldhearted fashion. Hell, he kills a guy with a shotgun in a way it wasn't designed for. If you haven't seen it yet, i urge you to watch GET CARTER, it's what a proper thriller should look like. Damn fine movie.
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...haven't crossed paths in a while. Always glad to agree with you on a movie.
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So californians are usually nice people? I know anamerican who visited LA and found himself less then impressed with it, he said it's less a city and more a collection of towns, without a true identity of it's own, like Chicago or New York City.
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It happens more often then you think (agreeing about movies, that is).
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...and I will second that absolutely. Los Angeles is a collection of small cities, separated by faulty infrastructure and poor city planning. I knew people in Culver City I saw less frequently than friends from Chicago. And that's really only a slight exaggeration. But I did find the people there pretty nice. I guess I don't tend to bring out the meanest in people, so I might not be the best witness, but I could provide a couple dozen anecdotes of strangers there who did me solids.
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About the CHOURIÇO... in portuguese we say chouriço, notice the letter Ç in word. The spanish call it the more english language friendly word "chourizo". Anyway, we the portuguese don't see "chouriço" and sausages as the same thing, we differenciate them, to such an extent that nobody thinks of chouriço as a type of sausage. We rather call it an "enchido" to seperate from sausages. In english there is no such differenciation, thus you guys call it all sausages. Basically, all enchidos are bigger then sausages, and the meat is spiced with papikra, wine, salt and it's dried over smoke, a process we call "smoking". And it's not to boast on my own country's stuff, but our chouriços, they do taste better then the spanish chourizo. Sorry to lay in thick on the national cousine pride, but if you knew you would understand.
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In portuguese, someone doing you solids means somebody is shitting on you (solid waste, you see?). It's funny how an expression can mean such a different thing from country to country.
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obvious you wrote that pathetic review before you even saw the movie...what a crock of shit. I was looking forward to it until I saw the shitty previews - what a bunch of fucking gay black berets - looks like they just raided the local army/navy store - no worn out/old gear they've been using for years? Come on Harry this is the shit/detail we expect from what has become your ass sucking completely worthless reviews. The movie could not have been that good -and no spoilers?? you can't tell us that Dolph gets his ass kicked by by tiny little Jet Li and that Steve Austin gets impailed on something by Couture? I'm guessing here harry - am I right? And Jason Statham - the most unintimidating "action star" out there. Takeaway his cockney accent and he's another balding medium size schmo in the weight room with security issues....oooooohh he works out with a Navy SEAL - he must be tough - you fucking losers, that SEAL probably goes home and says "what a fucking pussy statham is...but the little limey fuck sure does pay me well - hahahahhardeefuckinghar" statham looks more like a junior rotc member - and the basketball seen was totally gay - statham sucks - let him fight scott pilgrim in the next movie. Just fucking admit it.
Your reviews are so fucking bad it makes me want to puke - FUCK YOU HARRY!!!
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I couldn't say anything at all about the average disposition of Californians because conditions vary so much from area to area. Is city X stressful or not stressful? Is town X stressful or not really? And variability from person to person. It's such so different in various regions that I couldn't say anything meaningful.
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That movie ruined my disposition for a whole week! Damn good movie, though. It's like the 2001 of the torture porn. Though i would be exitant to call it torture porn, because MARTYRS is like that type of movies that were called dangerous in VIDEODROME: because they have a philosophy. MARTYRS is no cheap torture porn thrills, the movie has a point to make. And a damn scary one! MARTYRS is disturbing not only for what it shows, but also because of the implications of what it shows and tells.
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I hear you.
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...and as an American who has crossed the big...shudder...40...my slang is now a sad melange of 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s. Even some 60s, probably, since I have a sister more than a decade older than me.
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I didn't watched RAMBO in the theater because i was expecting it to be a ehole pile of shit, in tune to all the Rambo movies made after the first. And when i did finaly watched it (due to my infinite curiosity then anything else), i was suprised at how effective and even good the damn thing was. By far the best Rambo sequel ever made, and a true companion to the damn fine movie that is FIRST BLOOD. I found myself on the side of the supporters, not a fan but a supporter nontheless.As for THE EXPENDABLES, i do want to like it. Not because i have any nostalgy for the 80s action movies, i do hate them 80s action movies, i have the idea and the attitude that went in making them, and the reactionary politics that came associated with that crap. But more in that i'm really digging the new director that Sly's career is taking, him now being is onw man and all. And i have lots of sympathy for many of the actors in the movie, specially Mickey Rourke, and even ol' Dolph, who in real life sounds a far more interesting person then his onscreen creations!
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Thats right I'm the big bad wolf by Michael Caines character? Esquire magazine did a pictorial of the clothing style of the movie that was impressive. You know theres a lot of good brit mob movies that have been made. Think maybe its the romanticized ideal of the mob I have. Not the ugly side of it. But those mobsters in movies, they got fashion style.
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I'll cross the big 4 next year myself, so i know what you must be feeling, brother. My only consolation is that i'm getting better lookin with age, i always tend to look younger then my age, i'm probably one of those who will reach my peak in the mid/late 40s.
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and look smashing in old age.
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On the testing side. They do everything from appearance, tear faction, flushibility, even smell. Why the smell of a toilet paper is important I don't know. I mean you're putting into the nastiest part of your body. Ah well, its a full time job and I spend about 25% of my work day with you guys so I don't mind.
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What you got to understand about english gangsters is that they were really dandies. Michael Caine, who grew up in a though working class neighbourhood, he based his character on the looks and way the gangsters he saw in his place when he grew as a lad. You could always tell a gansgter because they would always be the best dressed people. Those guys took their grooming very, very seriously. They had an immaculated sense of fashion and dressing. always well dressed and manicured. And then they smashed heads. So, Caine as Carter in Get Carter is a very actual description of what was a english gangster back in the day, and even until the 90s. Nowdays they must all dress like chavs or some shit like that.
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Thebest known quote from GET CARTER is: "Now, you are a big man, but you are out of shape. Me, it's a full time job, so behave". It's one of the most badass lines in the history of gangster movies, made even better by Michael Caine's unmistakenly delivery. Caine has another great loneliner in his latest movie HARRY BROWN: "You failed to maintain your weapon, sir". It seques into a fantastic monologue by Caine where he tells a gangster he just shot a very deep personal thing that he didn't even told anybody, even his wife of 50 years. HARRY BROWN is a movie that can, even despiste it's soddy politics.
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But more interesting if they did a tip to merc movies of yesterday. Go to wikipedia and type "mercenaries in popular culture". Fantastic list of movies including: the professionals, dark of the sun, man who would be king or even Ronin. Guess I'm more of a gritty, dark merc movie buff than what expendables wants to be. Still going to see and try to have fun.
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Comedy, drama, action, he can do it all. You can tell when he's angry: he voice lowers, his eyes flare and he talks like a drill sergeant dressing you down. Oh that line Asimov!! Hilarious!! Its definitely on my xmas list. Thanks.
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...Dogs of War on there? I loved that when I saw it as a little kid. But...it's maybe not so good. And damn but I do love The Professionals. I'm a sucker for Lancaster and Marvin and if he'd been born twenty years later Woody Strode would have been a real leading man. Throw in Robert Ryan and Jack Palance and there was so much badass in that movie it could cause an overdose.
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...damn I love Rod Taylor.
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and included how the style of the mobsters really set them apart from the income of kids his age. Love you line about how well dressed they were--then they smashed heads.As far as style, why they gave up on the classic look don't know. Things change as you know and not always for the best.
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...one little line, from one of the first movies he made, Zulu. "Did think of that." Just a throwaway, but I can hear it in my head right now with every nuance and inflection. He made that little sentence into an encyclopedia.
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They included the cast, story and other notes of interest in the section. Really worth spending time reading.
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...do you want to have some nightmares? An American remake of Martyrs... ...starring... ...wait for it... ...wait for it... Kristen Stewart!!! Aiming for a 2013 release. Kind of makes you hope that 2012 thing wasn't just a load of hooey, doesn't it?
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the slacker soldier sucking it up, the big sergeant with the kaiser mustache, Caine just being Caine, the desperation of the soldiers as the safety zone keeps shrinking. Now that hi-adventure movie making.
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the slacker soldier sucking it up, the big sergeant with the kaiser mustache, Caine just being Caine, the desperation of the soldiers as the safety zone keeps shrinking. Now that hi-adventure movie making.
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A friend of mine watched THE PROFESSIONALS and never shuts up on how awesome it is. It was even nominated for like 4 oscars, should count for something. And the cast reads like a who's whos of 60s badasses. Need to check it out soemtime.
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Remake of MARTYRS??? For real? They will completly pussify that shit, no pun intended. This will be full of fail, man!
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...my only real hope is that a lot of things could happen between now and the release date. Of course, who knows, maybe they'll also cast Dakota Fanning and Fanning and Stewart can become some sort of plague dog version of Hope and Crosby for the 21st century, murdering cinema wherever they go.
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God, knows they got enough of them. As for Dogs should still be good:The opening scene, Walken in country, gathering the unit, getting equipped, training the rebels, Walkens speech, the action, the unexpected **spoiler**. So I think it should hold up well still.
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...for last stand movies. Zulu, Khartoum, and plenty of not nearly so historically accurate movies as well, like Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean. Plus the flat out fictional ones like The Wild Bunch. Wish they'd make one about the Battle of Cameroon sometime. When the French Foreign Legion marches a guy's wooden arm up and down the ranks once a year you know some shit went down.
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Sieges of Rhodes. I think Guy Ritchie was supposed to make one a few years back but it never ended up happening. Not sad he didn't but it would sure be cool if someone did.
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GET CARTER for me is what a thrillr/gangster movie should aspire about, it's the top of the game, it's the best that can get. sorry for the hyperbole, i might just be ruining the movie for you. but for me, that's what a gangster/thriller/revenge movie is all about. I do tend to prefer my this type of movies form the 70s, it's when this type of filmmaking reached it's heights, and afterwards, the good mvoies try and emulate them well, and the bad ones don't even know they exists. My favorite aspect of the 70s arevenge/gangster movies is that they not only dwelt on the moral marass of the deeds of the anti-hero, but the mvoie didn't sided with hinm. Bad shit was done by the anti-hero of the story, and the movie pointed the finger at him as well they would the perpetrators of the evil deed the kickstarted the story. Came the 80s and the shit begins. Revenge became sanitized, desirable, even admired, and fuck with due process, shooting undesirables ends all problems in life. Fuck how i hate the 80s action movies. The good ones where the exceptional exception, and when they were good it's because sometimes they DELIBERATLY parodied the very excesses of 80s action, like ROBOCOP. But then again that movie was made by a dutchmen from a script writen as a revenge fantasy against high ranking studio executives from Paramount.
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You should like EL CID then, the movie also ends with a last stand scene. For the longest time the movie was criticised, but when i saw it recently i found it full of win and badassery. It migth help the fact i'm portuguese and the story is set in the peninsula iberia in the 10th century, with a great intelligent script and extremely well directed by Anthony Mann.
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Speaking of the French, did you know that France is the country with the most battle wins in the history of warfare? Makes all those accusations of being quitters really stupid and silly. Maybe the french do know something about picking the right wars to fight that the english forgot and the americans are yet to learn (coughIraqcough).
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...oh wait, that would be a big spoiler to anyone who hasn't seen it. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, plus Sophia Loren, and Chuck, who...I know...but I've always sort of loved. Met him twice right after he made that prospector movie with Kim Basinger. I was just a kid and he was so...big. And his voice was so...big. Probably the only movie star I ever met who was more impressive in person than he was on screen.
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...bigger bastards. (understanding, of course, that the world was a more savage place when they held the whip hand). Remember, the US Marines' motto "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out" originated during the Albigensian crusade during the French massacre of Beziers when a papal legate said "Kill them all, God will know his own". (I know the quote is probably apocryphal, but if it is this is a case of myth trumping history; and they certainly did kill them all).
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Did you asked him to say his famous last line in PLANET OF THE APES?As for Sofia Loren, she was the Monica Bellucci of the day. What's with Italy and their super-bombshells?
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...they were all up in supressing the Templars. Speaking of which, have you ever visited the Castle of Tomar? I would give a knuckle from my little finger to see that place.
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...I asked him "may i please have my picture taken with you, sir?" in a very tiny, nervous voice...and there was something about how I loved him in...geez...Omega Man. Heston was in Ben Hur, Khartoum, Will Penny, Major Dundee (one of my favorite movies), 55 Days at Peking, Caesar and Touch of Evil, The Ten Commandments, not even counting Soylent Green and Planet of the Apes and I tell him I loved him in Omega Man. Like I said, I was a kid.
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No, i don't think it's apocryphal, i think it's a real direct quote. Though as in all things middle ages, it's dubious to know if one part were complete victims and the other total bastards. Many people like to paint the Albigensian heretics as this sort of protestants avant la letre, but reality is not that simple. In fact, the Albigensian were a bunch of extemists, and evne if soem of their beliefs sound reasonable and humane (they beleived in equality of sexes) still they had a strange attitude toward life, as in, totally despires the material world as merely a the working of satan, and so, when we consider not only their absolute intransigence but even despise for all other forms of christianism, the Albigensian crusade doesn't look such the actions of evil men anymore. Today soembody saying "kill them all and let god sort this own" reads like the height of hypocrisy, but back then it was actually an act of piety, with that the bishop basically gave everybody among the Albigensian their last rites and sacraments (which means, the absolvition of sins and a right path to heaven). Always the danger about dealing with the middle ages is the problem of projecting our modern thinking into those times, whichis wrong. Do that and we can't understand what really was going on back then. The past is not the present backtracked. One reason why i have movies where they put modern nowday people acting and talking in the distant past, like FUCKING TROY, and why i admire and enjoy movies that do the effort to prsent a good portait of the past as it were, like the unjustly maligned ALEXANDER and the kick ass TV show ROME.
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I'm ashamed to say i haven't gone to Tomar yet. And yeah, it's a great place, everybody i know who went there testify to that. And soemthjing tells me that Heston must had been proud of OMEGA MAN, even though it's a silly movie, it was the 3rd of his SF Message Trilogy movies he made between 1968 and 1972.
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...Cathars in Beziers. And you know as well as me that for the French it was all about a land grab. But I'll certainly agree with you about Rome, and conditionally about Alexander. I loved what Kilmer did in the flashbacks but I thought Farrell just didn't create a convincing Alexander. To be fair, I kind of have a thing about Farrell, though, so I might not be an absolutely objective observer on this one.
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You know what, Farrell played a very restrained Alexander in the movie, because the real Alexander acted muich more extrme and flamboyant. In everything he did. He was no man to act half-assed. Farrell, if anything, plays a pretty tamed and audience friendly version of the big man. Where the movie to portait Alexander as he really was, 90% of the audiences wouldn't stand watching a minute of the movie. The movie does actually help and soft-pedals things for modern audiences in ways most can't even dream. And even with those considerations they bitched. If only they knew!
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Aug 10, 2010 6:32:36 PM CDT
If you watch this movie and have an erection for 4 hours straigh
by mrmysteryguest
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...Troy.
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it's 00:32 here and my brain as turned to mush, and tomorrow is another working day. See you fine gentlemen tomorrow. Tchau.
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...have a point there. But if you can't trust Oliver Stone to go big...shit. And you know, he did the same thing with W. Huh.
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they couldn't be taken seriously because the heroes were all ripped and buff. Lets not go into directing, script, acting, etc. Every action movie had to have a girl, cartoony main villains and violence. 70s movie were just gritty, average guys fed up with the system (Bronson) or the wrong professional (Caine) to piss off. Another reason 70s flicks were superior is a lot of action takes place in semi-lit alleys, bars and street. It just an aura of darkness both physical and spiritual. 80s were like the opposite: loud and gaudy. Stallones Rambo is what I consider a good action movie with heart. Rambo doesn't want trouble, has no future and is a lost soul. Plus it came out during Reagans presidency and for some reason it strikes me as "poetic"? 2d movie of him going back to Nam made sense but the tone changed from a grim one to cartoony 80s mess.
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Note: Don't ever go drinking with Alexander. Bad things happen.
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Brand Pitt as Achilles... jesus.I dont have any problem with Hollywood raping our Greek Mythology,but couldnt they have used some other blond celeb for this role? Ledger would have been a perfect choice,but alas he wasnt in the same a-star caliber as Pitt then.
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Jennifer Aniston was against Alexander role because of the implied homosexuality in some of Alexanders scenes. Pitt went with the Achilles role.
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but the battle between Ajax and Achilles was well choreographed. Can't believe they let Orlando Bloom live.
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But i suppose that was not explored in the movie,so his choice was safer.still he sucked,he would have better as Alexander.
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as you know homosexuality was part of their society including men and boys relationships.
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it reminds me a small joke we have here in Greece about the 300 Spartans in the Thermopylae Battle.it was not 300 Spartans that fought,but 150 couples.heh.
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So Jennifer Aniston is to blame? The bitch was holding Brad Pitt down! She is also the reason Pitt didn't do THE FOUNTAIN. In everything i read about Aniston, she reads as a very shallow dumb witted girl. Say what you will about Angelina Jolie, but she does have a brain in her pretty head.
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... the worst that fucking shit looks. The movie reads like "Ancient Greece For Morons & Retards". I remember the general laughter that went through the theater when Achiles says that Parocles is his cousin. Yeah, cousin, right! I didn't knew that cousin was now an euphemism for "fuck buddy". Did TROY jumped the shark! What a fucking mess of a dumbed down movie for the slackjaws of middlewest biblebelt illiterate redneck america!
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so ive seen it rather alot lately and i find it to be wholly emtertaining. I don't know enough about greek mythology to know if the film is accurate or not, but i can say it's one of the most entertaining swords and sandals flick that have appeared in the last decade. i like brad pitts arrogance in the role, i think he played that side well. i bought into the notion that he was the best soldier around from the opening 5 mins when he leaps onto that big guys neck with his sword. i don't know anyone that doesnt like the pitt/bana duel, very tense, extremely well edited, i know the outcome yet i want bana to live, i really felt sorry for bana in this movie bcos he dies bcos his brother cant keep his cock in his pants. orlando bloom was the weakest link in this for me, his acting is laughable, even my gf who loves him in LOTR says she finds orlandos acting in troy bad, the way he says his lines like he's reading them from a prompter, the way he gazes to the sky when delivering impassioned speeches, his cowardice when skimpering away from certain death at the hands of Gleeson. onbe other thinbg i don't like is at the start when Brian Cox delivers the line "of all the warlords loved by the gods, I hate him the most" i hate the delivery of that line because theres no subtlety to it, the audience must know he hates achilles so lets just have him say it outright and save ourselves a ton of exposition. it just feels forced. love the music to troy too.
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sorry man, i thought that was a joke about your work, it read like you were joking, nothing wrong with it of course, my worst job was working in a pet store and my job consisted of one thing, clean the fish tanks, while the fish and water are still in them. what a joke that was. hey any vacancies in your work, i'm currently a bum? leo you mentioned that 25% of your work day is spent here. do you mean you can go on this site when you're at work? how do you manage that?
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The last 200 or so posts on here will go down as the nicest, most courteous and generally pleasant Talkback in the history of AICN. What went wrong! :)
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I was away, that's what went wrong.
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Morning Jack, Tabs, Asimov.Jack, I too enjoyed Troy for what it was. I also did not read any of the material it's based on, I just found it entertaining. Historical details? Don't care. If accuracy is what they were going for then I guess they dropped the ball, but I don't think accuracy was the intention. I did know that Achillies was a dude lover, but I also understand why they changed that. Good or bad, like it or not, A lot of people could not look at Achillies as a bad ass warrior if he was a homo. Is that right? Of course not, but it is a fact. Again, not a stickler for absolute accuracy so I was fine with it.
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Know it sounded it like a joke, escpecially coming from me. But the company is Proctor and Gamble who make a lot of paper products. I do data entry work of test results and have access to the internet. No supervision really so I can hop between work and posting here. Someone comes in, quick minimum size website I'm on.
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I mean when they first showed him, it was like, Whoa!! I mean he was ripped. I enjoyed Troy for what is was: Harmless fun. Better than Predators, A-Team as summer fun. Fight scene between Ajax/Achilles was top notch, the big battles were cool, couldnt get over O'Tooles bad teeth, Bloom I just wanted to kill, Bana really stole every scene he was in. The outfits and cinematography were excellent. It was as I said good summer fun. Better than anything for 2010 summer movies thats for sure.
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Mountains of madness, GL, Thor, Ca and looks like Bats to be released as well. Get ready for some popcorn fun!! Only one I worry about is CA.
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Away Asi? Well I hope you had a good break.
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in 2d Austin Powers movie. He was explaining time travel to Powers and it was pretty stupid. Powers wasnt buying it, finally York turned to the audience and said something like: sometimes you've got to stop thinking and just go with it. For me, some movies I use my brain to enjoy the movie and others I turn off because its so dumb but sometimes are fun.
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But the trojan horse scene where they went thru and started slaughtering people in the darkish red light was pretty good. With Troy, the fight scenes were good, anything with Bana was good but the rest was ehhh. Although Pitt did have some moments especially first scene and fight he was in. THAT was cool.
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..and as someone who has actually read the Illiad (as opposed to most people who just pretend to)I've got to say that with the exception of the gods and the way Agememnon and a couple of other characters meet their end, it's pretty close to Homer. Don't remember a sea-monster though, is that the extended version? As for the whole Patroclus thing, there is actually no mention of he and Achilles having a romantic relationship. It's simply assumed that they did because it was such a prevalent practice in ancient greece.
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Whoever did it, really deserves to take a bow. So well done. Plus it has Diana Rigg in all her Emma Peel glory as the Black Widow.
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is that fact that there are no clear winners or losers, people were expecting a clean, by-the-numbers ending. But that's not the way Greek Literature, war, or life for that matter---works.
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when it appeared invading force left and city elders were at seashore debating wheter it a trick or if they really left. Cities oracle wandered off by himself along shores edge. Found proof (floating wood sticks) on water indicating the baddies hadn't left. Just before he could warn the elders a medium sized sea creature lept out of the water and ate him. Maybe it was a tentacle creature but I remember a sea monster got him.
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That definitely occurs in the original text, but are you sure you may not have also seen the "Odyssey" with Armand Assante, or the "Troy" tv movie? Both of those depict that scene. Maybe you've confused the two??
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The ending seemed a bit rushed to me good as the sacking of the city at the end was. Pitts death was like, oh shit, we gotta kill Achilles?! How did he die?! Ok someone quick shoot an arrow at his achilles heel. Just seemed phony to me.
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Both of them occurred awhile ago.But yeah I think you're right now that you mention it. The whole Troy movie was non fantastical whereas the Odyssey mini was. Really liked the Odyssey. Everything about it was first rate.
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...especially considering that it was an NBC t.v movie. Great cast too!
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Let's face it. Ain't It Cool talkbacks have been a sperm bank since '96. Only problem is, not many of the donors are completely viable.
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Just pure beautiful? I don't mean hot but just the reason the word beautiful was created. When she was talking to Odyesuss at sea the first night and she gave him that smile, wow. Hard to believe one of the major makeup companies fired her the same year because she looked too old.
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Yeah, massive confusion here re: Wolfgang Petersen's version (Pitt, Bana, Bloom, Gleeson, Cox etc. etc.) and the TV miniseries, plus the direct to DVD rip off attempt.
Petersen's version had no monsters and no supernatural / mythological content except for the occasional mention of the Gods.
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..but it was outside of the gates of Troy (he was dead by the time the "Horse" was crafted) and he was later avenged by his son Neoptolemus. Leo, I don't know if that was a special effect or not, but Isabella's eyes and face were absolutely radiant. Loved to "hate" Eric Roberts as chief suitor, too. One of my absolute favorite t.v movies---hands down!
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I'm a bit of an history buff, and added to that my movie eekness, this means i do have a particular interest for historical movies. I do have quite an interest in the time depicted in the movie TROY, the mycenaean civilization of ancient greek. But when i see a movie that pretends to be in the historical genre but treats history with complete gay abandon, i see that as a coup out, as trying to have the cake and eat it too. It just doesn't work. It's slouching and lazy and even disrespectful, mostly to audiences.If a movie goes easy on historiography, or changes historical facts, then it has to replace it with interesting stuff like good drama, just like KINGDOM OF HEAVEN or the TV show ROME did. for each they they depart form known history or change elements, then something good has to be there as replacement. TROY doesn't do this.TROY does the exact opposite, TROY for all it's abandon of know history thewy replace it it inane melodrama, mindboggling erratic and bad characterization, and a complete desinterest and even disrespect for anything that could be about the times it supposedly depicts. A movie that opens with a subtitle that puts us in a specific historical year - 1350 BC - and then presents anything but how things were then, that's dishonesty. The movie gets everything, every single thing wrong, with only the most superficial production design as something kinda alike those times, and even that is very dubious.And don't even mention me characters using steel sword DURING THE BRONZE AGE!!Everything in the movie is just one goof after the other, a parade of mindboggling goofs. 150 million dollars and this is the result? Where they spent it? Cocaine? Sure doesn't look they spent much of a buck on historical research. Anybody can can find more historical information with wikipedia then what the production team did for tha tmovie with millions to spend.. Adn what about the scenery surrounding Troy? A sand desert with sand dune??? Troy is set in the turkish province of anatalia, and you know how that looks like? Like South California in the area where the orange and olive trees grow. They didn't evne had to leave too far from LA to find a place that would match the real geography of where Troy once stood.And here's is the thing, if they had been a bit more honest and faithful to the homeric tale, if they had been more faithful to the real archeological knowledge about that era, the movie would had been much more interesting and beautiful to look at. All it would took was a bit mor eimagination, then the complete dearth of imagination that's on display in the movie.Most people coment on how bad James Horner score for the movie is. It's the score that movie deserves. Bad souless cliché music for a bad souless cliché movie.
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The final scene where Roberts and the other suitors were trapped and wiped out was such bloody good fun.
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TROY is close to Homer's tales? In what possible way could that be? They got some of the names right? Big deal! Because it's quite the opposite situation, they got NOTHING RIGHT! Nothing, neither from the legends nor from the known archeological knowledge of the era. The movie is a complete total bust. Your edition of The Illiad must be substantially different from mine, to say the least.
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Ones like Holocaust, Winds of War, Roots, etc are gone forever because of money. But with cable, we can count on getting good period set series (Rome, Tudors, Spartacus) which I think are superior because the FCC regualtions don't apply. Plenty of skin, beheadings and torture on Tudors!! Bloody good fun!!
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i know i know, it was released like 100 years ago. i thought it was good overall but not vintage scorsese, i'd place it in the same bracket as Bringing out the dead. I thought the mid section really dragged in places. I thought that could have been snipped down a bit. i was starting to be quite bored watching leo's halucinations over and over again. Having said that, the ending wrapped in the lighthouse wrapped things up nicely. i was expecting a "what the fuck is going on" type ending but it was quite clear and easily understandable. I just have one nagging feeling though. Right at the end when Leo is sitting on the step with his shrink/partner, Leo goes back to his old ways, he has reverted back to being insane as ben kingsley said happended previously, but then leo says "would i rather live a monster or die a good man" and i'm thinking, has he really reverted back to being insane or "wink wink" does he simply want to be lobotomised bcos he cant cope with his new found reality. did anyone else have this thought? also what was the significance of the plaster that was on Leos head throughout the whole movie. i was expecting it to have the no 67 on his head (his patient number) but when his plaster was gone near the end i only saw a red smudge.
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ughh, sure I'm wasting my time here but--one of the central themes of the Illiad is the enmity between Achilles and Agemmenon, and they absolutley nailed it. Now if you're referring to the fantastical side of the story, than you get no argument from me. But the basic character profiles of every player are pretty much in tact.
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I still liked it. I looked at is as entertainment, and it entertained me. Call me non demanding, whatever. Sometimes I just want to be entertained and don't give a shit if something is totally accurate. Braveheart took lots of liberties with history but it was still a kick ass movie in every way. Just my opinion.
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paris does indeed kill Achilles, the legends tell, by shooting him with an arrow. Some later legends does claim it was an wound to the heel, which then give rise to the expression "Achilles' Heel" to mean a person's frailty. But the legend itself provides a rational for why would Achilles dies from an arrow shot to the heel: Paris used poisoned arrows.
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i hear what you're saying about historical accuracy. if i felt so strongly about history being correctly depicted in movies then perhaps i would also disregard Troy in the same way you do. I know you disregard Braveheart for much the same reasons. However i am the kind of movie lover who does not mind if a film is historically inaccurate. it really doesnt bother me. the only thing that bothers me is if a film is shit. i found troy to be anything but shit. for me it was a very entertaning 2 hours and so much better than most of the shit i've seen this year. I know not to always expect historical accuracy in movies because if i did then perhaps my ability to enjoy them would be hampered with my need for accuracy. i don't want to feel that way about film. i get my history from books, internet research and grandparents. if a movie wants to be historically accurate then great. i'm all for it. it means i can add movies to my list of research tools. but if a film skimps on accuracy then i don't really care as long as the film i'm watching in a bloody good one. you could say an unaccurate film is being irresponsible with facts and the protagonosts the film is portraying (william wallace for example) but as i said, moviea re not my number 1 source for history. it is my no 1 source for entertainment. and i love james horners score for troy. Now Asimov, Have you sent me your famous chico smoked sausage yet cos they sound damn fine?
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Even to this day, an achilles tendon injury is one of the things a sportsman or anyone with a physical role fears the most. A friend of mine snapped his achilles tendon playing soccer (changed direction too quickly on soft ground with studs on boots) in a friendly match and nearly missed his own wedding! A shot through the heel that snapped the tendon would have rendered even the mightiest warrior immobile and nothing but target practice for others on the battlefield.
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Show how nasty the weapons of the past were on dummies filled with blood or pig carcasses. Amazing how deadly weapons were even in the bronze age.
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Even taking out the whole historiography business, the movie is still a failure as story and entertaiment. It's filled with bad dialogue, bad characterization, silly plotting, and a complete misunderstanding of what it wants to be. It shoots all over the place to try to hit soemthing, anything, and aims at nothing in particular. It is a movie without a point. The only value we can find in the movie is the scene where priam asks Achilles his son Hektor's body back, and that's because it's the only moment where the movie actually remembers it's an adaptation of the illiad and does a direct adaptation form the story, and because Peter O'Tool is a monster of an actor who can make reading the phone directory interesting.And the idea of "yeah the movie is bad but i still had fun" is just a completly alien concept for me. I'm not desperate for entertaiment that i should stick to a bad movie. If TROY is a bad movie, i'll get my fun elsewhere.
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"chico smoked sausage"? That's hysterical, you have no idea how funny that sounds for a portuguese. It's as if you are talking about a brand, because the word Chico is a short form of the name Francisco. You mean to say the "Chouriços", the famous portuguese sausages. Well, i'm not sure i could send you through the mail, on account of Food Contraband laws. But i would love to make you known the wonders of portuguese cuisine.
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I hear you. I know what's like to be kicked in the heels, thanks to our childhood playing football (INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL, not that weird ass sports you have in USA strangely and weirdly called football). But nobody dies instantly of being hit with an arrow in the heel. Unless ypou ar eshot with a poisoned arrow, which was the of Achilles. and unlike in the fuclking movie TROY, Achilles was shot because he was distracted admiring the hot body of his latest killed enemy, the amazon queen Penthesilea. Yeah, Achilles got killed because he got distracted with necrophiliac thoughs on a dead woman he just killed.
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The confliect of Briseis, Patroclus donning Achille's armor, the duel with Hector, Achille's refusing to fight--all directly adapted from the Illiad. Funny how many people read Bulfinch or Coolidge and think they know Homer--not the same folks.
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one of the dumbest films ever with some of the worst dialouge ever is 80's action flick Road House, and i love it. A movie can still have an abundance of flaws and still be hugely entertaining. it is often refered to as a guilty pleasure, althogh i personally don't see it as a guilty anything. All movies don't have to have a point. Road house was about the best bouncer in the business who kicks alot of ass and takes out the trash, and its great. its point, i dont know if it had one beyond entertaining the audience and trying to get more people to be bouncers.
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The bronze age weapons had to do the most with the fact that they were made with bronze, a metal more brittle and soft then iron. So, they had to be pretty clever in how they designed and made those weapons. And clever they were. Oje reason why the real most used weapon back then was the spear is that it's easier to use bronze to make short spear tips, it's small side overcome the faults of bronze as a metal. This is why evne kings used spears in war. Swords were mostly cerimonial. Evne the swords used in war had to take into account the problems that bronze presents. The greeks invented a Faucalta type sword which took advantace of it's curved blade so that it presented a smaller surface of impact, thus minimize the problem of impact. The german tribes of the North of Europe adopted another clever way, they deliberatly made their weapons easily bendable. their logic was that it was preferable to have a sword that bends so you can right it on the spot by stepping on it then to have a sword that would break and thus became disarmed.The only moment in TROY that game me some pleasure was the inicial moments of the fight between Achilles and Hektor, when they still used spears and shields. The moment the fight goes with swords, the movie returns to it's usual lame ass retardness. What a wasted oportunity that whole movie is!
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i love food and could talk about it all day. i have worked as a chef in the past and i enjoy cooking at home but on our menu this evening is nothing to shout about. we are having a grilled southern fried chicken breast in a burger bun wish lashings of lettuce and mayo, served with crispy fries and side salad. its what we call our "homemade chicken royale" because its basically burger kings famous and delicious chicken royale but made fresh and healthier at home. Is this Chourico sausage similar to what we call here in the UK chorizzo. it is like a sausage but much nicer in flavour and is often used in spanish paella dishes. what are you having for dinner tonight Asimov? do you like to cook? can you send me food please/ i don't care how you do it, just please feed me portuguese cuisine. thank you.
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Directly taken from the Illiad? More like directly taken from a bad editon of the cliff notes pilled up by a drunken editor. A mockery of the illiad you meant to say. total bad melodrama that can't evne provide a glimpse of who the people form the homeric legends are. all i saw in that bloody movie was a bunch of modern day people talking and acting liek modenr people without evne bothering to try to pretend they are playing characters form a time different then 21th century californian. Even the british and australian actors acted like they were a bunch of californians. Don't insult the people who did read the illiad and critcise this movie as if they had just known the story from some comic book version for kids, because this reads the exact opposite, it's the people who praise this shit up liek it's some clever movie that seem to know the Illiad from some dumbed down version for illiterate kids with Alzeimer.
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Oh, and fuck Lindelof and Cuse too.
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I think that you are confusing some of the pre or post Homeric legends of Troy with the Illiad. In fact I'm almost certain of it based on some of your descriptions of the story. I encourage you to look at some of Homer's original prose and you'll see that excluding the interaction with the Olympians, much of the movie is pretty faithful, even down to the choice Achilles makes between longevity and fame.
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The portuguese chouriço is very much like the spanish chourizo, only it tasts better. Portuguese, due to our history of voyages and contacts with Africa and Asia, we mastered a type of cousine which expertedly uses spice and other condiments to spide our food up, and thus, with richer flavours then you can find even in neighbour countries like Spain. The portuguese chouriço is much more flavoured then the spanish chourizo. And thus tastes better.
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I know the Illiad as i also known the stuff from the remain of the Heroic Cycle, and what's in the movie TROY is a complete pissing on Homer's work. The movie might as well had been about showing the entire cast pissing on a makeshift tomb of Homer while laughing and counting their money.
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no rush. just sooner rather than later please.
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I'm going simple on the diner today, to compensate from the week's excess. So, i'll grill some fresh sausages with curry rice. And then open a good nice bottle of portuguese wine to go with it.I understand why you can talk about food and maybe even wine for hours. You would really love visit my country for that.
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all i did on my recent trip to Santorini Island, Greece, was eat, drink and lie down. oh and i smoked alot too. i gave up years ago but hey i was on a sunshine holiday for 2 weeks, i stopped again as soon as i came home. anyway, the food there was mmm mmm mmmm delicious. i gained 1/2 stone in 2 weeks. i particularly enjoyed their club sandwiches which isnt very greek but loved em anyway. their mousakka was yum too. didnt have a bad meal once. ouzo was complimentary after every meal. you know ouzo asimov? a nice shot of alcohol, tastes like anaseed. i will make portugal my next holiday destination because asimov, you sir have convinced me to visit by talking about your famous chico spicy smoked sausage alone.
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apart from baboons bums. speaking of monkeys i find this particular you tube video hilarious ....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zni4jy07p2g
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdA-y6J-KnY
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DBuk91phkI
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Leo was cured but he couldnt live anymore with his guilt,so he faked that he returned back to his mental illness state,so that they would lobotomize him and turn him into a plant.that was his hint to the doctor using that line.
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Its like the commisary food fight scene in Blazing Saddles. Stuff just being thrown back and forth, left and right. Crazy.
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Think my IQ has gone being on this thread.
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I have heard of ouzo, the drink is described as a real mule kick. Sounds awesome, i wish i could had tasted it already. Can't be found here, i'm affraid. And i have heard that greek cuisine is very good also, so the way i figure, greece, italy and portugal have the best mediterranean cuisine.I'd love that you visist my country, and we could even meet up. i'm planing in buying a new car next yeear, and if things go well, next summer i might be able to cruise around in a new Alfa Romeo Giullieta. Here's to hoping and good fortunes.
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The first time I heard about Bruce, Arnie, and Sly (Holy Trinity) it reminded me of the episode of Duckman "Dammit, Hollywood" where the three were in an action movie together.
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I didn't get that at all. I just took it on its face, that Leo had NOT been cured, and now he was gonna get it, like Mac in Coocoo's Nest, or Cliff Robertson in Charly
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thanks for clearing that up. i think he was definately faking his illness now and wanted to be lobotomized. i've just rewatched the final scene and it's quite clear he was just faking it.
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Then how you account for Mark Ruffalo's reaction after Leo says that last words? He was faking it alright, the weight of guilt nad sadness for his tragedy was just too big to bear anymore.
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And the tragedy of his decision is that he had actually been cured and he helped set back psychiatry 20 years.
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For some reason 70-80s have more guilty pleasure movies for me than the last 2 decades. Roadhouse did have some kickass bar scenes. Kelly Lynch (hot)and Sam Elliott to round out the cast. Thats a good chips'n'beer movie on a hot summer night.
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have you had your sausages and curry rice with fine red wine yet? ive had my chicken, fries and corn. i liked shutter island although it did drag in pace a few times in the mid section. i'm going to watch it again soon. i am not too interested in cars asimov, never have been, i don't own a car presently. 4 years ago i was stupid enough to drink and drive and i lost my license for 18 months. i havnt driven since but im sure when i win the lottery i will buy a nice car.
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... was the score. Not since THE DESCENT i had been so impressed with a score. and i had to wait until INCEPTION to be impressed again. Truly, this days film scores are in deep crisis. I never seen anything like this before.
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the score was very minimul wasnt it. unlike inception, which if i recall had music in almost every scene, shutter island uses its music sparingly, even in dramatic scenes. i was thinking this as i watched it today, how hardly any music was used throughout the movie but when it did the score reminded me of the trailer music for Inception.
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I'll have my dinner in two hours time. Already opened the wine bottle, though. Yummy!I really love movies what have the pacing like SHUTTER ISLAND, so i had absolutly no problem with that. Remember, i'm really into 70s movies, and SHUTTER ISLAND is done in that style and fashion.I wasn't into cars until 3 years ago, when i finally decided to get my driving license. I was 36. But as soon i bought my first car (which is the one i still own), i instantly became a car afficionado. By the way, one of my tall time favorite TV shows is TOP GEAR. Can't eget enough of it. James May, Richard Hammond and Jeremy "Jezza" Clarkson are unbelievable, and funnier then most professional comedians. The show is awesome.
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did you see tom cruise and cameron diaz on Top Gear recently? top gear were proud to have 2 big stars on its show. they both performed the fastest circuit competition and tom cruise is top of the leader board. forgive me now, my dinner wishes to escape me allready. be right back.
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You can tell that Nolan uses music in his movies is very influenced by his favorite movie, BLADE RUNNER. That movie has wall to wall use of music from start to finish, and Nolan emulates that in all his movies. This is one of the reasons why Nolan says he uses BLADE RUNNER as inspiration to all his movies even in things which are not directly aparent.I do agree that movies could use a little bit less of music nowdays. It's funny, but it's composers now that try to convince directors that there should be less use of music in movies, when it used to be the other way around. I do think that many times the absence of music and the use of silence can be more effective a in film then a music track. For instance, i think AVATAR could be made into a better movie if it didn't had a score at all, if they had gone NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN route and whatever music would be extremely subtle and non-intrusive, saving all for the end credits.
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Yeah, that was the 5th episode of season 15.
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i think i should maybe take a shower after that! Asimov, have you seen Frech horror Inside? have you seen this Human Centipede movie? i'm a big fan of "good" horror. the human centipede looks perverted yet interesting, the idea of stitching 3 people together ass to mouth and creating one long shit funnell. id hate to be the middle and third guy. they have to eat the shit of no 1.
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The thing is my friend, YOU consider Troy a bad movie, I do not, so I am not using the "It's stupid/bad but fun" thing. I don't see the film as you see it, hence, different opinions.
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Hope all is well with you my friend.
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i'm good thanks, hows you today? rouge i think i gave a pretty decent post regarding the merit of Troy earlier. i was quite proud of that post. i consider it to be one of my more intelligent posts, if i do say so. unlike recent posts where i've been posting links to monkeys mating/monkeys pissing and monkeys farting. their worth a look rouge trust me on that, funny shit.
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sorry man, completely don't know how i missed that.
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It's all good. I saw your post regarding Troy, very good bro. Asimov is very passionate and very demanding of movies, that's cool, hey we all have our own set of standards, and that's what makes us individuals. If we all thought the same, it would be a mundane society. I respect what Asi says even though I may not agree with him, that's why we get along and can have civil conversations.
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Piss off
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i really love that you come on here and act all manly and shit, insulting people you've never met over the internet. i'd like to see you try that shit face to face but i somehow think you havnt got the courage of your convictions. i think you're just a frustrated little boy who gets little attention from anyone. you come on here acting all tough hoping to get a rise out of us bcos it's the only way you will get any kind of attention. well guess what shit head, you've succeeded. congratulations. i've given you some attention. will you fuck off now you limp dick loser.
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Whats AICN coming too?
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Think it'll be more fun than expendables. Serious. Animation, voice acting, action sequence, dialogue all excellent. Plus get plenty of extras.
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TROY isd a stupid moviem and a mockery and insult to the illiad. I could barely accept the type of ineptitude of TROY it ist was some peblum low budget italian movie from the 50s staring 3rd rate american actors and dubbed italian actors as sidekicks and shot on two weeks. TROY is a 130 million dollars mega-budget super-production. they had all the means in Holywood to make it, and thus, there's no excuse whatsoever for the shit they puleld out. The movie is stupud, is dumb, is poorly made, and it's a mockery and an atrrocity to the tales it's supposed to be based on. It is shit.TROY is a dumb bad movie. that is what it is. Just because you have tolerance for crappy dumb movies, all for the sake of this "entertaiment" notion that you can faind even in bad movies, deosn't mean i have to abide to that as well. i do not like bad stupid movies. nothing will ever make me change on that. The bnest way to make me reject a movie is to make it stupid and dumb. TROY is one such. No entertaiment in that shit for me. stupid is stupid, not fun. I find no fun in stupidity, specially if i wasted my hard won money on it. Peter O'Tool himself said the director didn't knew what he was doing, and it's shows. He didn't spent a single minute defending the movie even when he was contractually obliged to do so during it's release. That alone should say a lot. The movie is stupid. Stupid is bad. End of.
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Well, the old insults would suffice for The_Choppah, don't you think? He changed nothing, anyway.
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who's Choppah?
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Calm down, who ever said you had to abide by anything? Certainly not me. I said you and I look at the movie differently. You see it as stupid and dumb and bad. I do not. Because you find it stupid does not mean I am tolerant of stupid bad movies, because I don't see it as that.You are getting dangerously close to arrogance my friend, just because you think it is stupid and dumb does not mean that anyone who likes it is stupid or dumb or tolerant of bad movies. Its a difference of opinion, and no one's opinion is the defining one, not mine, not yours....dig?If I go and read The Illiad and still like Troy, what does that make me then?Dude, I respect you, you know that, but sometimes your rants about movies you hate feel insulting to me, like you see me as a lesser person because I like what you consider to be a dumb bad movie.
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Sorry if my last post to you sound angry, which it is, but you know me, i get all upset and angry when i see anybody eqauting stupid with fun or good or whatever. There's nothing of merit in a stupid dumb movie, like TROY is. and truly, i'd like that you would one day realise that if you rejected stupid dumb movies, you wouldn't lose anything. There's nothing to lose in turning your back to dumb stupid movies. You lose absolutly nothing. Because there's plenty of proper good movies which can fill the entertaiment quota, without you needing to stupidify yourself.And no, i'm not very demanding of movie, and that's the whole point. It's you guys who have set the bar pretty low. You can't put the bar low and then complain others have impossible standards. And speaking of standards, if a movie has a budget of 130 million dollars or more, there is absolutly no excuse whatsoever for being stupid. So, if said movies are stupid, they deserve all the critcism they get. nothing excuses floppiness and laziness and stupidity at such high level of filmmaking. nothing! The very least a big budget can buy is a good script. The very least. Big budget movies don't need to be brainiac stuff like INCEPTION to be good. Being like IRON MAN would suffice very nicely. That's the standard that should be the norm, and not the exception. The only wat TROY could had been more retard is if it was directed by Michael Bay or a similiar hack.
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Well, on the matter of arrogance, i remeber one thing in read in a David Cronenberg interview, in which he admits that he is very arrogant, and it's his arrogance that helps him operate as the creative person he is. The arrogance to know that he is right in thinking and doing as he does. I know exactly what he means. But there is this thing, is it arrogance when you have a strong conviction and you cand efend it in lengh? Is that really arrogance? Becasue of you ask me, real arrogance is when one says and thinks one thing and supports with nothing. Thats' real arrogance if you ask me. Maybe what you call arrogance from me is more truly puzzlement and disbelief.
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guys I think we have stated our thoughts on this film and then some. can we move on to other matters, like, i dunno, Jaws 4 : The revenge. the shark has a grudge and follows the brody family to the bahamas. i mean cmon. are you serious. i think we can all agree thats a dumb movie. one serious dumb movie. and michael caine is in it? Asi don't think any less of me but i still find jaws 4 mildly entertaining. i mean its mario van peebles and michael caine vs a rubber shark. whats not to like ;)
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Well, on the matter of arrogance, i remember one thing in read in a David Cronenberg interview, in which he admits that he is very arrogant, and it's his arrogance that helps him operate as the creative person he is. The arrogance to know that he is right in thinking and doing as he does. I know exactly what he means. But there is this thing, is it arrogance when you have a strong conviction and you cand efend it in lengh? Is that really arrogance? Becasue of you ask me, real arrogance is when one says and thinks one thing and supports with nothing. Thats' real arrogance if you ask me. Maybe what you call arrogance from me is more truly puzzlement and disbelief.Yeah, man, puzzlement and disbelief. Yeah!
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Ye happy fellow who doesn't know who The_Choppah is! He's just the most anoying troll going on about right now. His speciality is copy and paste other people's posts and pass them as his own and generally act liek afucking asshole. He is, in the words of Christian Bale a "fucking ass"!
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"fucks sake he's ammature" but really when i said who is he, i meant he doesnt really exist, ya follow.
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Yeah, i did! Butterfingers me.
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Were they too busy trying to build time machines?
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TROY 2 would be the people who fucked up the Illiad with TROY now fucking up THE ODDYSSEY as a sequel.
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i was briefly discussing that movie in another TB. I love that movie, especially the opening 20 mins or so. the amount of times ive felt like Joe when at work. the annoying boss, the shitty lighting. the dreaded walk to work. the repetitiveness, the mundanity of a shit job, its all there in the first 20 mins. and then he jacks it all in and goes on an adventure to kill himself. what an inspirational movie. also love the music and his dancing on the raft and the way he stands up on the raft when the giant moon appears. one of the best films thats often not refered to as one. im gonna watch it now on you tube. later fellas.
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They were too busy being greedy fucks.
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My guess is that Greek warriors spent so much time traveling that they formed powerful emotional/sexual attachments to their comrades. But when women were available, they tapped that ass. There are enough stories about Greek soldiers cutting a swath through the local females that I find it most plausible that they simply went both ways.
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They did went both ways, both sexually and romantically.
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AL Leong, that's what. The greatest henchman of the 80's needed to be in this. Somewhere, anywhere, even as a walk-on. You guys can read my tribute to Al here:
http://kiaikick.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/tribute-the-greatest-henchman-who-ever-lived/
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Too right. A 80s action knock-off movie that doesn't feature Al Leong feels all wrong. Very well observed, friend.
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Why would anyone listen to a word he says. Im surprised he even had time to write this bullshit review with a hummus sandwich in one hand and slys cock in the other. \
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Why would anyone listen to a word he says. Im surprised he even had time to write this bullshit review with a hummus sandwich in one hand and slys cock in the other. \
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Gayest review ever.
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Gayest review ever.
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For those of you commenting without even seeing it fuck off!!! The movie kicks ass, i loved it as much as harry did and so did everyone in the theatre! Do yourself a favour and before slagging off harry and the review, go see the movie!!!
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I'd rather watch Piranha 3. I know it's gonna be dumb, but it's a PIRANHA MOVIE, DAMMIT!!!!
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I cannot wait for this movie to unload itself upon my gapping senses.
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Go to Corona Coming Attractions, go to the forums and look at the "Expendables is so macho" thread. There is some potential for comedy gold right there.
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Aug 13, 2010 11:53:12 AM CDT
All Kentucky/Indiana AICN readers! Georgetown Drive-In!
by the reluctant austinite
Any AICN readers from the Louisville, Kentucky/Indiana area please join us tonight (Friday, Aug 13) at the historic Georgetown Drive-In. Lots of film fans from the area are getting together to watch a double feature of "Friday the 13th" (2009) and "The Expendables" under the stars. See "The Expendables" in the most retro way possible, at the Drive-In!
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Obviously you polled everyone so that you can say for sure everyone loved it, right?
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You received a lot more lovin' while you were tied to a hospital bed.
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Although with their Star Trek and Toy Story 3 scores, can that site really be trusted?
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Aug 13, 2010 1:58:20 PM CDT
RT be trusted? It's just an average of all critic scores.
by the reluctant austinite
Rotten Tomatoes dosen't just score a movie itself.
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Oh well. I'm not really a fan of Statham either. So him being 2nd banana wasn't that great for me, but I guess it had to be that way. Otherwise it was a lot of fun. Acting-wise lol, come on, but Zayas' accent was pretty funny. Roberts I thought did the best acing in the movie. I kinda thought everyone else was overdoing it a little. I also had a bad theater experience so maybe I was cranky. I'll see it again. :)
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What are you negative fools talking about??
This movie was AWESOME!
FINALLY a movie that delivers!
And I'm not saying it just because I was hyped up for it...I was hyped up for Predators too and came out of that movie disappointed. I'm also not saying it's a masterpiece...just that it DELIVERED.
The theatre crowd was going completely crazy, just as I expected. Reacting to every scene, bursting into "YEAHs!", and walking out smiling. I cant imagine someone experiencing that environment, then going home and bitching about Jet Li needing more character development. WTF.
Are you focusing on the awesomry, or your writing career?
To address some complaints from various reviewers (with merely my opinions, of course.)
1. Characters disappearing - When I told my dad about this movie's cast list (he's Mr. Action Movie Watcher), the first thing he said was "Well it's gonna have to only focus on only a couple of guys. Some guys are gonna be backseat and barely there if it's gonna work. This is not the type of movie that can be too long." And indeed, this was pretty much a Stallone/Statham movie, with Roberts/Austin as the bad guys. That's fine.
2. "Caring" about characters - This is a MAN movie, and the script seems to EXPECT that we know the stars, and watch the UFC. AND INDEED WE DO. So when Randy Couture is battling Steve Austin, its not just some generic mercenary against some one-dimensional thug, its the UFC Heavyweight Champion going up against the WWF Champion! Yes, it's novelty. Yes, you can probably only do it once. But it works! The Stallone/Arnold/Willis scene exists solely for the purpose of the audience knowing and caring who the actors are. Without that, there's no point.
3. The CG - WTF?? You mean the laser pointers at the beginning? Who cares????
4. The shakey cam - This is the part I was worried about. When people started bitching about it I was like "aw shit more clusterfuck editing." But it really wasnt that bad. I could tell you exactly what was going on. Stallone and Austin were at a room to the right, Jet Li was in some kind of centerish room with that nerdy henchman, and Statham was on the side with multiple soldiers. If I watched it I could tell you move by move as the scene progressed. My theater crowd was following it perfectly and cheering at all the big hits. Even the final battle at the end, if I watched it again I could tell you the geography of who was where. It's easy, fool.
How dare you scare me into thinking it had super confusing editing!
I would be willing to compare this to Transformers 2 should the discussion come up.
Expendables was awesome.
(btw, my usage of "fool" is in a joking, pro wrestler way :) )
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This movie was awesome you idiots...
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Aug 14, 2010 1:19:47 AM CDT
I PITY THE FOOLs who say this movie had "slow moments"
by gibsonusa returns
WTF?? WHAT slow moments?
This movie virtually nonstop kickassery! What a great movie!
Need I even run down da list? (SPOILERS)
-You start off when pirates getting their asses kicked.
-Then we meet Rourke,
-Then the audience cheers for Arnold/Willis,
-Then Statham/Stallone go scout and kick ass on escape,
-Then Stallone/Jet car chase, leading to,
-Jet vs Dolph.
Need I even go on? WHAT slow moments?? You got the Jason/girlsfriend stuff mixed in there but thats cool.
I cant think of ONE time this movie grinded to a halt.
What the HECK are these critics talking about??
This movie rules.
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this site can go to hell. no fucking inception review harry. I use to luv this site
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Sorry, this will be my last long post for a while.
(This may contain SPOILERS!!! on which characters survive the first movie)
People have been making Expendables 2 wish lists since Expendables 1 was still filming! (a good sign). As the NFL season begins, here's my KEEP, CUT, and ACQUIRE wish list for E2.
KEEP:
Stallone
Dolph
Statham - his girlfriend returns as well and we see more of their continuing relationship.
Rourke - Character is killed during E2 to make room. His exit sends Sly to get help from Arnold/Bruce!
Crews - Character killed to make room.
CUT:
Jet Li - Love Jet, but he should have been a bad guy. He doesn't fit in in that garage. Can't tell anymore short jokes. His character quietly leaves to start a family.
Couture - Big fan, but he had his fight with Steve Austin. Nothing more for him. Quiet exit.
ACQUIRE:
Bruce Willis - We can dream.
Chow Yun Fat - Good guy, replaces Jet as the "Hong Kong guy".
Antonio Banderas - Bad guy, to fight with Chow.
Kimbo Slice - Bad guy, replaces Couture as the "mma guy".
The Rock - Bad guy, cause we need to beef up the bad guys. replaces Steve Austin as "the WWE guy".
Van Damme & Steven Seagal - Probably more willing to participate when this movie is a blockbuster.
CAMEOS:
Arnold - Brief cameo as he crosses paths while on an unrelated mission.
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...and it stinks. So sad that Millennium apparently couldn't fit A GODDAMN TRIPOD into the budget. Why cut a Cory Yuen choreographed Jet Li fight scene into a million little unrecognizable handheld pieces? What sort of classic action throwback uses these retarded I-don't-know-how-to-properly-shoot-action-so-I'll-wave-the-camera-around-and-cut-a-lot techniques? That shit is wack under any circumstances; in a film like EXPENDABLES, one that's supposed to know how this action thing is meant to be done, it's completely unforgivable. It's exactly what this film was supposed to be a respite from.
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http://www.tailgate365.com/2010/08/the-expendables-pours-on-the-action-but-is-full-of-missed-opportunities/
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crazy crazy action, I didn't want it to end. How any one hated this is beyond me, as an action fan theres nothing not to like in this. Things like "character's dissappearing" of "shaky cam" is just pissy fanboy negativity because while i would have liked the shots to be a little smother i got what sly was going for and in the end it was not bourne shaky cam, not even close to being that bad, it was actually pretty effective. As for the whole characters disapearing thing...did you watch the movie? Everyone was used effectivly, crews big scenes were at the end, so only using him speradically in the beggining was because he's supposed to give you a what the fuck moment at the end, jet li has a huge action scene right in the middle so i don't get how he "dissapeared" Coture was probabaly used the least but he's not an actor, He was hired to be in awesome fist fights not to give a soliloquyIn the end, this moove is amazing, and if you don't like it your either retard, gay or a woman...so fuck off
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I really wanted to LOVE LOVE this film. I have been counting down to it. Following the film's publicist's posts on her website. Waiting to see advanced footage at Comic Con. But while the opening scene was impressive, and the double team neckbreaking execution of one of the goons was fucking awesome, I just couldn't get past the fucking horrible CGI (which is inexcusable at this point, especially given the awesomeness of Rambo's 50 Caliber Action Climax). The action really didn't live up to the expectations set by the last Rambo and the fact that this is supposed to be a love letter to 80s action films. The uber cheese lines and acting were hilarious. I don't remember the acting being this bad in Cobra. The writing was really atrocious for me. I think the only line that I thought was in the vein of 80's action films was when Willis asked Arnold and Sly if they were going to "suck each other's dicks". Honestly, I know what Stallone was trying to do and it felt evident to me that while he tried, he just missed the mark. When you have the All-Stars of action in the film, you think it could be a better movie than Commando or Predator. But the thing missing here is obviously authenticity. It kinda felt a little douchebaggy. Like if everyone in the writing room was rocking Ed Hardy t-shirts. I don't know, I'm just disappointed beyond belief. We definitely needed more of Terry Crew's automatic shotgun and more Mickey Rourke.
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I'd be awesome if Arnold's team of Mercenaries end up being Jackie Chan, Chuck Norris, Wesley Snipes, and Vin Diesel.
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That's more clever than anything in THE EXPENDABLES.
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Aug 15, 2010 1:03:24 AM CDT
That tattoo garage is just asking for a bad guy invasion.
by gibsonusa returns
Kimbo Slice and goons smashing up that garage, destroying all the bikes, and killing Rourke's character.
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"Coture was probabaly used the least but he's not an actor, He was hired to be in awesome fist fights not to give a soliloquy"But Jason Stathem was.
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is this an Expendables talkback or an Avatar vs Inception one?
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I have to say, The Expendables was like a fun-as-hell mix of Rambo, Commando, and my favorite merc flick, The Dogs of War.Anyways, this one surprised me. Much better than Predators too. Speaking of which, it was good to see Arnold onscreen again after all these years, even if for only a couple minutes. Also, kinda sad as he looks pretty old compared to his last couple films. He's way too old now to play the terminator ever again. Damn.
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Gotta love Terry Crews. Dude should be in more action flicks.
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This movie kicked all kinds of ass, Fuck the haters in the face with an automatic shotgun.
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Does anyone know?
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i read 60 million somewhere but I can't find the source now
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I was curious seeing as it was a Lionsgate produced film. I thought the budget would have been between 25 and 30 million. Nothing for nothing but 60 million was ballsy for this type of film. Hindsight is twenty-twenty but I'd have never guessed this would have made 35 million opening weekend.
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We know it won't happen, but how cool would it be to have James Cameron direct, reunited with Arnold and Sly?! (Note: Cameron had writing credit on RAMBO 2)
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...but I do hope for more visual clarity within the action scenes. And don't forget to improve the sound edit and sound effects for the Dolph/Jett fight before this thing hits home video.
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c'mon this movie is really, really, really terrible. Give it up ready. It's not interesting at all. It feels like Sly made this movie half asleep. The Lame action. That's how the movie actually opening?! For real, CG blood and guts and incomprehensible editing. Why was everyone so into this? Sly was amazing in Rambo, Rocky, Tango and Cash, ect but this is a pale comparison. It feels nothing like a throw back at all to the 80s. The fact, that Harry loves this movie and didn't like Inception shows his taste in movies is utter shit. It's a bad movie.
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For those who enjoyed Expendables (I haven't seen it yet) Entertainment Weekly.com reported that Stallone is saying to the Hollywood reporter that he wants to do a sequel
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Screw the haters and the critics! This movie was pure awesome! So many wonderful kick-azz moments! Expendables 2 for sure!
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Dumb, stupid, stilted, unfunny one-liners throughout a mess of a wannabe action extravaganza. Terrible structure, pacing, and editing. Terrible performances from many of the leads, particularly Stallone and Lungdren, who is unintelligible. Just bad, bad, bad. And I'm a guy who considers First Blood and Predator to be masterpieces, and Predator 2 underrated and freaking awesome.
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Aug 16, 2010 12:12:17 AM CDT
Expendables is not 80s action nostalgia, it's a cheap 90s DTV th
by kal reeve
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All of the characters except Stallone's, Statham's, and maybe Rourke's were underwritten.
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So what if he did not want to appear in your ego-fest? Is that a crime?
Stallone talked the same kind of trash about Carl Weathers for wanting to be paid for the use of his footage in Rocky Balboa.
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Aug 16, 2010 12:15:16 AM CDT
Yeah, and I did post the same remarks in the other Expendables..
by kal reeve
thread
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I loved every god-damned minute of it. But 30-45 minutes of big budget hollywood action I have seen in ages. Everyone is in top form, but I disagree with Harry Dolph was wasted in this film, everyone else was pitch perfect.
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Aug 16, 2010 2:45:32 AM CDT
Off tpic but holy smokes some rank cat shit just happene
by takingscorpioscalls
i'm seriously considering leaving the comp for this... . ah ok its going away now.
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wow thats the amount of total dead from ww2.
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with a capital "H".
Made Tango and Cash look like The Wild Bunch.
I think Harry is trying to get a cameo in the sequel. That would explain the positive review.
A fucking embarassment from start to finish.
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Terrible, badly edited, action with no real impact; totally unlike the action in Rambo. Jet Li was wasted, the quick cuts made his real skill pointless, anyone could have done it. The Merc team from Rambo could have kicked the Expendables asses.
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Ooooh Yeah! Diggit!
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If you look at it from the viewpoint of bad 80s action flicks, then the characters and action fit right in. Some of the action scenes were awesome. All the famous actor cameos actually worked pretty well. I was expecting most of these actors to be pretty washed up, but they looked pretty solid in their roles. The big failure on stallone's part is the story. There was nothing interesting about it, which makes this a mediocre movie at best. I definitely wouldn't go out of my way to see it at the theater. Not sure if they'll make an expendables II, but stallone would have to work a miracle on the story for it not to bomb.
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Chow Yun Fat is the new bad guy, accompanied by his squad that includes Donnie Yen and Al Leong (from Lethal Weapon). They don't like Bruce Willis tampering with their affairs. Per advice of Steve Seagal, they crash into the tattoo shop, and kill Rouke and Crews.
Michelle Yeoh goes to Sly for help. Arnold's team of mercenaries includes the brother of Crews, Kimbo Slice, who joins Sly.
Chuck Norris is an outside detective trying to figure it out.
Matches:
Bruce Willis vs. Chow Yun Fat (McClane vs The Killer)
Norris vs. Seagal
Statham vs. Yen
Van Damme cameos as a Louisiana bartender that kicks them all out of his pub.
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Please make more. I wanted MORE of Dolph, I found his off the hinge character so interesting, he was great, and man he looked intimidating as all hell. If I could change one thing, it would be to have a minute more of screen time with each member of the team, just to see them be the badassess that they are.And the only other thing I would change would be way less shakey cut fight editing, I wanted to SEE Jets moves.Would love to see Bruces team since the expendables did their own thing. GO SLY!! and thanks!!!
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Go see the old movie The Mechanic with charles bronson instead
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Go see the old movie The Mechanic with charles bronson instead
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Go see the old movie The Mechanic with charles bronson instead
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"Check into Viagra, because if you can't hold an erection for 45 minutes straight via non-stop action woah... take the blue pill and you can pretend to be the man for which this film was built."
so the man this film was built for gets an erection watching sweaty muscle heads wrestled around and get dirty? maybe that's why he gave inception a bad review. not enough male on male action.
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"Not sure why I went Vegan on this film - I just think that had I actually had RED MEAT or anything crazy manly... like a rack of ribs to eat - or a Turkey Leg... my god. You might as well masturbate too. I was trying to hold back, but I love this movie."
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"I've a friend that would make Jet look like Dolph if he stood next to Jet - and he acts EXACTLY like Jet in this film - except he really is pathetically height challenged, but he has a great attitude about it, though he usually has to use a step-ladder to feel great."
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"This is where I have a shameful admittance. I was in the bathroom. I know. You don't have to say it, though many of you will, I was a complete filly - I had to pee. I was bursting and I tried to hold on as long as I could - but I had to go, and when you have to go, sometimes ya gotta go."
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"but imagine pieces of man meat and marinara flying like Bats from maw of Carlsbad Caverns."
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I have to agree with all the complaints that this movie reserved.It is a very flawed film and not exactly what the more hardcore fans would expect.BUT although it didnt turn out to be a new action movie masterpiece in the level of Die Hard,Dirty Dozen,Predator,hell even Commando,(which is a big shame with such an awesome cast),it is still a very entertaining and enjoyable flick.I really liked it even when i found myself frequently cringing with the bad moments of the film: non-existent story,quick cuts/shaky cam in the action which half of the time took place in very dark enviroments,cgi blood and massacre ffs,no character and in-between chemistry development of the team members which they never felt that they are a team,no equally bad-asses villains,the melee fights,although well-done,didnt hold up to the true magnificent skills of their awesome protagonists and also lot of jokes fell flat and forced.But what outshines all these problems is the charisma and manliness (yeah it sounds gay.fuck off) and the nostalgia that these old-school bad-asses bring to the chemistry.and watching these old dogs kicking ass,well its what counts in the end of the day.My theater was almost packed with all the demo: teens,old guys,boyfriends with their girlfriends,parents with their kids (yes i know its r-rated but here its Greece nobody cares about that) and in the beginning i was afraid that i was going to have one of those terrible movie experiences where the audience laughs at and trashed the movie.but thank god my fears were wrong: everyone was having a blast with the movie,laughing and applauding the whole time,they really had a good time.the biggest applaud came ofc in the Holy Action Trinity scene and in the scenes whenever Crews was splattering everyone with his bad-ass gun (my personal favorite in MW2).so to sum up: good summer action flick,you have to see the old digs even for a last time in the big screen kicking ass and although it didnt turn out to be the magnum opus of the action genre,i do hope that Stallone will have the wisdom to take notices from the fans and fix the mistakes he did in this movie.
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because the antagonists just did not work
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I really had a great time watching this movie. Yes the acting is sub-par and the storyline is very basic. But hell, we were laughing and enjoying ourselves during the action scenes as was the entire theatre. I would have paid money just to see the last 30 minutes. People were standing around afterwards talking about the action sequences and just seemed to really enjoy themselves. Seeing it in a packed theatre was great. I'll see this with a different group of friends again this weekend. Here's hoping for Expendables 2.
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I'm afraid. I wanted to like it, but it's just not very good. Everything felt so amateur; the cinematography made it look incredibly cheap. The characters were so underdeveloped and didn't seem to have much in the way of personality; considering they were all meant to be chums there was no sense of history. Compare to how Predator, for instance, builds up nice idiosyncratic characters using very little screen time. So, as I felt nothing for them, I had nothing invested in the action scenes. The pacing was poor and I was rather bored for the most part to be honest. I did however love Rourke's small role, the action sequence with the plane, and a few of the lines
"Remember this shit at Christmas!". I'm puzzled by its Box Office take... how much was due to the film being advertised as an Arnold/Sly/Willis team up?
I love 80s action films, but this was just a misfire. The best action film this summer (Inception doesn't count, it's so much more...) for me has been 'The Losers'. It was short, punchy, had some fun characters and some nice action scenes. Everything that The Expendables wasn't in my opinion.
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It was just a letdown - and that was without me knowing anything about it other than the cast. There was something more interesting to be developed here, but it didn't emerge. It just felt completely stale and derivative to me. Perhaps a young director might have made something more interesting?
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Best movie Sly has made in many many years (together w Rambo & Rocky), NO its no masterpiece but still a lot of fun, can´t wait for the sequel! Flying over next week to the states (from Sweden) and I will see it a couple of more times to improve the boxoffice! AND this fuckin crying about INCEPTION....please stop! YES its a good film but also at the same time really fuckin overrated. I mean its like Nolans 4th or 5th best movie... MEMENTO that´s the shit!!!
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Just seen it tonight, it opened in the UK yesterday. I enjoyed it immensely, it was a good laugh, and everyone had their fair share of moments onscreen. Has everybody lost the point of what this movie was trying to be?
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Nothing in this movie worked at all. The action, what there was, was good in places very occasionally. Everything else was just terrible. Terrible!This seemed just like a series of random events held together by a storyline that made no sense, and wasn't even interesting.I expected this movie to be many things. I never expected it to be boring. By the time the end sequence kicked in, which involved random expendables fighting random people, I couldn't have cared who won or lost.This was supposed to be a tribute to 80's movies. THe best of those still work today. This completely failed.
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This was supposed to be an ensemble piece, right? If so, how come I didn't have any idea who the expendables actually were, what they were doing, or why?Were they a team? Why did most of them only ever appear for about 3 minutes during the end scene? Why were we suposed to care about Statham's missus?Having seen the movie, I'm not surprised Van Damme and Seagal turned it down.
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Finally saw it and I totally loved it. It brought me back to the classic 80's action type movie I loved as a kid.
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I think Van Dam, Russel, Ford and Norris all lost their invitations in the mail. Gibson had gone too insane and Steven Segal was washing his hair.
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Imagine every shitty straight-to-DVD action film that's come out in the last decade. Now, replace the D-list protagonists with B-list celebrities, dumb down the dialogue, and you have...THE EXPENDABLES. With the exception a single semi-decent action scene (and a slightly effective Mickey Rourke soliloquy) this flick has absolutely nothing to offer. Seriously. ------------ Reading Harry's review is heartbreaking. That much false rationalization is usually reserved for cheating boyfriends. In this case, however, it belongs to someone who got to have a few phone calls with the star and figured a verbal blowjob would be an appropriate "thank you"... So fucking sad.
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Dont know what you haters are smoking. Action was tight, dialog was fine, and seeing someone return at the end was the cherry on the cake. I want a sequel asap.
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I have just seen this. 35 years ago the academy saw fit to hand sly stallone an academy award for his rocky screenplay. 35 years I am thinking that it was a fluke. When you write a screenplay there is a thing called dialoug, characterisation, background story. the expendables has none of the above. You do have give stallone huge balls for assembling this cast and the movie has a couple of good lines in the scene where bruce, arnie and sly meet for the very first time. but that is it. the screen is one dimensional and the action is very old school. the story is lifted straight out of the a-team. team of ex-mercenaries take down a corrupt general only to find that the real villain is cia. who got corrupted. This is the no 1 film in the us? how the hell did that happen and why the hell are there people on this site constantly give out when bay makes his robot movies. and yet those same people on here cheering this utter abomination to hilt. where are the people to say how stupid audiences are for flocking to this. I am more than happy to see an old school action film. one without fast edits. but not like this. the waterboarding scene should have been edited out. I cannot believe sly is making a sequel to see this movie. a fool and his money are soon parted. I went to see this film out curiosity. Oh and sly, the wga and they want their oscar back. atrocious.
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mark
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utterly stupid.
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Stallone has made a really bad drive-in movie. This film lacks story, technical competence, even decent acting or stunts. This is the film Raiders of the Lost Ark might have been, if Indiana Jones used a walker. There is a scene with a close up of Eric Roberts where the cue mark shows up right in the middle of his face. How incompetent do you have to be to do that? The only reason I stayed to the end of the film was because the theater had air conditioning.
This film could have been a new Guns of Navarone or The Dirty Dozen, however it came across as giant circle jerk among the characters. There is no reason for Charisma Carpenter to appear in the film. You are not introduced to the team members until the final fight scene. You get to see characters whine about their lives for 15 minutes with no reason for even beginning to care about those people. Why care if Mickey Rourke was afraid in Serbia if he is not involved in the current fight. The most dangerous thing he does in the film is a tatoo! Everyone except for Stallone, Steve Austin, Eric Roberts, Jason Statham and Jet Li are cameos. Sometimes drawn out story killing cameos. Don't waste your money on this film. -
After 7 years I finally went back to a theater because I had to see this scene on the big screen.
Over in a blink of an eye but the dialogue is about what i would have expected between them.
Willis wasnt really in the scene with them--looks like he was shot on his own.
I agree about the villains-I was expecting over the top caricatures and he went rather PC with it-even Eric Roberts wasnt as ruthless sleazy as I would have expected.
I blame the low budget nature of it--the big studios simply wont give him the type of budget he had when doing Rambo 3 Terminator 3 was like that too).
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I think what the movie really needed was a sadistic ambitious second in command who wants the top job-and a final scene where Eric Roberts or his henchmen--go back to Los Angeles and kidnap Charisma Carpenter-and Mickey Rourke saves the day-or something.
The knife throwing scene at the end seemed a bit too cozy.
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Movies like Batman Beyond or the Dark Knight have no depth--they just shuffle the deck in a way that people get suckered into thinking they have seen something deep.
Actually John Rambo had some surprising depth in one way--straight ol action plot-except Rambo starts out a cynic-the woman an optimist, and in the end they meet half way.
While not revolutionary-its this type of meat and potatoes filmmaking that I really miss. These days its more gimmicky. Nolan uses gimmicks(and while the Expendables action scenes were actually kind of dull-Nolan is a terrible director of action--the fights in BB and DK-crap).
He or his brother also need to ease up on the pretentious dialogue--the tendency for characters to preach and teach was ridiculous in BB(even the gangster was giving Bruce Wayne life lessons) and in DK they couldnt resist having the cross eyed convict do the same.
Stallone is better at dialogue.
He gives it heart! Heart!
The Rourke monologue was classic Stallone toughguy gush talk.
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the less I like it. the most criminal thing about this movie was its lack of story structure. all action movies have a story structure. all this movie was about was slaughter. i know that this movie was international mercenaries. trash bayhem all you want. with the exception of tf2 his movies have story structures.
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who slaughtered innocents civilians and some of his own men and covered it up and was later brought to book. and the tone of the movie was a major war epic. then I might consider see it. but I think stallone is done. Hey maybe happy to count the money he has made on the back of this. I really cant see him doing action movies into his 70's. unless he is a frazzeled old vet or thumthing. as sly would.
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arnie: why dont you give the job to my friend here, he likes playing in the jungle.
sly to bruce: what the fuck is his problem? after arnie leaves
Bruce: says i think he wants to be president.
very good. but after that there is no more decent dialoug. mark. -
If you are saying this movie had 'no story' you have some kind of either anti-action or anti-Stallone agenda. Here, I'll spell it out for you: Mercenary team hired to whack ex-CIA spook and dictator. They recon the setup and realize it's too risky. They meet a brave woman who elects to stay even though she could have left. Merc leader admires that and starts feeling like he's an asshole. His buddy tells him 'Yeah, I regret not helping someone back in the day and it sucks.' Merc leader decides to go try to take out these two pricks because even though he knows he'll die, at least he'll have done something good with his life. His friends decide not to let him face it alone so they all go down there and whup some ass. THERE. THAT WAS THE STORY. Did you not pay attention in the theater? Yeah, I know...you faggots were probably busy criticizing what the guys were wearing or some shit.
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look like they just stepped out of wax works museum. it says an awful lot when the stat is the best actor in the film. balsa wood suppliers must have been happy. after all he has all the acting ability of balsa wood planka. the screenplay is the mapped out version of the story. the most important thing about a screenplay is structure. coherent structure. the expendables had none of that. it was just an excuse for killing, more killing, slaughtering, explosions. and more death at the end.
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And it was still a fucking good time at the movies. Looking around the theatre when we left everyone was smiling and you can tell they had a good time too. I haven't seen a great action movie like that in years. I'm not going to spoil any of them here but the action set pieces were fantastic. What a great time...
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Total Crap. Crappy dialogue and story. 80% of movie takes place in darkness. "Rambo" 100X better.
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are turning a blind eye to spammers.
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Aug 30, 2010 7:38:32 AM CDT
Harry, you do realize you are a latent homosexual, right ?
by corplhicks
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expendables 2:
begin with a prologue. the expendables (led by mickey rourke's tool with sly's barney as his second-in-command; his nickname The Schizo originates here; Van Damme is part of the team too and it's Randy Couture's first mission) are in a real badass bush somewhere and in terrible peril. their ass is bailed out by Schwarzenegger's Trench and his team who are also on the assignment. Van Damme and Sly have a falling out over a strategic/moral decision (a la Crimson Tide), resulting in the former quitting.
back to present. barney learns that church and monroe were in bed together and had a falling out and church himself had vested ulterior interests in the conquest of Vilena. this gets barney real mad. meanwhile, church has employed Trench and his team (including Danny Trejo and Ving Rhames) for a mission in South Africa to control the blood diamond trade. Trench is more of a straight-up mercenary, without the expendables' sense of moral correctness. unbeknowst to everyone, Church has hired another mercenary to take out the expendables altogether. this mercenary is scott adkins. but the expendables survive the attempt on their life and vow revenge. they are also contacted by the top military and intelligence brass (Brian Dennehey, Steven Seagal) for a meeting with the president (wait for it...Chuck Norris!) who personally asks them to take out the now-rogue Church, hiding out in South Africa with national security secrets. so the expendables map out the mission's logistics and strategy, during which they realize the need for a seasoned pro for a vital responsibility. so they seek Van Damme and persuade him to return. the team and plan now in place, the expendables travel to south africa and come head-to-head with Trench. Lots of badass shit goes down. Barney rescues Trench and his men, getting square. Trench and his team allow the expendables access to the base and walk off. Sly and Bruce battle it out in the climax. Bruce chooses to kill himself than be defeated and goes out in a spectacular blaze of glory. Sly liberates yet another oppressed people.
epilogue:
Tool brings to the expendables' attention something. A rogue black-ops navy seal green beret super U.S. soldier is holed up in some warzone and become a kind of col. kurtz like figure and must be terminated with extreme prejudice. His photo is revealed: Wesley Goddamn Snipes. Sly also introduces the team to a new member: Akshay Kumar (indian action superstar, martial arts and stunts expert.) -
I am no Guru of film like Harry and Other Critic's. I am a simple guy who lives in a small West Virginia town.
I myself was a creature of the 80s for was born in 1978.
Bare in mind my grammer will not be the best for was dropped on my head as a child so my learning ability suffered but will try my best to deliver a kick ass review.
When I heard about the expendables i was excited and yet skeptical as most were.
Lets face it the past 2 years after The Dark Knight and Iron Man 1 the movies have really sucked.
This and Iron Man 2 were my hope for a better summer. Along with Robin Hood and Toy Story 3.
Sad to say I think this years films was a drop off to make 2011 and 2012 look amazing.
On to this film. Anyways I think It does what its suppose to. Paying homage to 80s films.
But I think No Offense to Stallone for he's a great film maker and an Icon.
However for the sequel he needs to work on giving his team more screen time so you get to know these people.
The action is great and Statham and my view Austin make great action stars here.
I think script needs work in the story of the team more so.
Sure bring in big 80s stars but give them better stories.
Don't get me wrong it makes Inception and Salt look slow and boring but its not equal to 80's fun.
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Aug 31, 2010 12:28:57 AM CDT
Daytime TV quality; acting, script, music, editing, direction...
by hanyoyo
If this is a man's mans movie, then I'm sorry but I wasn't aware 'real' men loved daytime TV quality acting, daytime TV quality scriptwriting and music, daytime TV quality direction and editing!
The movie is embarrassing to watch. Stallone's performance is matched only by the terrible performances from everyone else. I would say 80s-style action flicks are my favourite type of movie, but this actually manages to be worse than anything produced in the 80s, or 90s for that matter.
The third act is just one big bore! It's all action at the end, but it's utterly boring. It drags on and on. We all know how these films end, we all know from the start that this movie is going down the exact same route probably all movies from this cast list end up; heroes win, bad-guys can't shoot straight and die! But this movie manages to make the cliches utterly dull. A film devoid of any redeeming qualities.
And a final mention of the acting and script, directing, editing and music... when I said they were daytime quality... did I mention daytime quality TV from the kind of country you might take a holiday in!?!? Horrendous, embarrassing, perhaps even sad it's so poor. -
I'd copy & paste the classic Jay rant in "Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back" ... but that's not needed here.
What cracks me up is that there's always the Movie Snob who likes to show his/her superior movie-making knowledge by bashing a popular film.
... but that's not even the case here is it?
The Expendables is MEANT to be mindless eye-candy. It's not MEANT to have deep characters or a complex storyline.
The fact that anyone reviewing this even remotely touches on those, or any other requisite Movie Snob aspect, is cheesier than anything you can find in the movie itself.
Must really chap your asses to know your review is of the "wtfever" variety ... but you also added to the box office receipts of such a terrible movie.
Yo Sly, as the Grandaddy Master of "The Sequel", bring on 2!
... just have more scenes like the one under the palace!
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The Expendables SHOULD do for Dolph what Pulp Fiction did for Travolta ... just not at the mainstream level.
I think of all the characters in the movie, Gunner felt like it had the most thought put into it by Stallone.
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... makes me long for "Rambo 5." To wash the taste of this out of my mouth. Not that it was terrible... it just sold itself way short of its potential and was all over the map. "Rambo" (4) was close to perfection.
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If they had CG blood in the 80's this would be it. It was fun for a matinee price
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a return to the eighties in more of a pastiche way than a loving one. Fist fights/knife action were pretty brutal though.
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