July 30, 2010, 10:02 a.m. CST
July 30, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST
I think I speak for almost everyone when I say we didn't even need ONE review of this flaming pile of shit in a pretty bag. And yet its almost impossible to get multiple reviews or opinions of Inception, Salt, or a large supply of other movies that might actually fall into the "aintitcool" category.
July 30, 2010, 10:12 a.m. CST
July 30, 2010, 10:19 a.m. CST
by Troy McNamara
Chances are that a bunch of the pretty boys are going to be revered and respected at some point when they do take daring roles. Like you already mentioned Brad Pitt, Heath Ledger, Johnny Depp, and Johnny Depp along with Efron. I hated Zac Efron until I saw 17 Again and then I started to agree with your predictions (as always, we are so alike). With the right project, Efron will become the next Brad Pitt, I see it in him. People just hate Efron and Shia LaBeouf just because they're so called "pretty boys". I would even say that Robert Pattinson is in that group because I thought he was great in Goblet of Fire but then his career went downhill from there. But, people have every right to hate "actors" like Taylor Lautner. Then again, he's like my worst enemy when it comes to actors.
July 30, 2010, 10:20 a.m. CST
The Charlie St. Cloud trailer totally abuses the "synth chimes" scene transition effect. Go ahead. Watch it. Count how many times they force the synthetic chimes: <br> <br> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzgOvvMi8Lg <br> <br> No. 1: 45 seconds. <br> No. 2: 56 seconds. <br> No. 3: 1 minutes 46 seconds. <br> No. 4: 2 minutes 10 seconds. <br> No. 5: 2 minutes 21 seconds. <br> <br> I'm sure I missed a few. <br> <br> The synth chimes are to bad drama trailers as the "record scratch" effect is to bad comedies. <br> <br> Excellent breakdown as always, Massa.
July 30, 2010, 10:21 a.m. CST
by Troy McNamara
I meant Leonardo DiCaprio and Johnny Depp sorry.
July 30, 2010, 10:26 a.m. CST
Or a rapist junkie. That will be the "risky role" that will give him credibility. Whether that would go down well with his legions of female fans is another matter. The vibe I get from Efron is he's going to play it safe for the rest of his career. He's not a risk taker like DiCaprio or Ledger.
July 30, 2010, 10:34 a.m. CST
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July 30, 2010, 10:42 a.m. CST
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July 30, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST
I just checked it out on imdb (***spoilers, if anyone really gives a shit****), it almost seems like the same twist from that piece of shit Reese Witherspoon/Mark Ruffalo movie. "He is seeing her ghost, but she's actually just in a coma somewhere so now he has to go find her body somewhere". I'm not too sure what movie Massa was referencing (I don't even know who else is in this), but apparently that's how shit went down in the book.
July 30, 2010, 10:51 a.m. CST
Two brothers, Charlie (15) and Sam (12) decide to go to watch a baseball game. They "borrow" their neighbor's car and drive to the stadium. On the way back, however, Sam is killed. Thirteen years later, Charlie has grown up and is working at the Marblehead cemetery. Every evening at dusk he goes to a little nearby forest where he plays with Sam; Charlie has the gift of seeing ghosts. This also serves him well as an undertaker, because he can talk with the deceased. In the town lives Tess Carroll, a yachtswoman who wants to make a round-the-world trip. A week prior to her departure, she directs her yacht in to a storm to test it, but in an accident, Tess and the yacht are lost. Tess appears at the cemetery. She meets Charlie and they go on a date. The next day Tess realizes that people ignore her and the proof that something is wrong comes when she cannot see her reflection in water. What is more, she can play with Sam St. Cloud, the boy who died 13 years ago. Charlie is shocked at the thought that Tess could be dead. In the meantime everyone in the town in possession of a boat, including Charlie, explores the bay to find Tess's body. He has to admit that he hasn't seen the real Tess, only her spirit. Everyone gives up the search, but then Charlie feels that there is one place he has to go. With Sam's help he finds Tess's body. Tess is transported to a hospital where they stabilize her in a deep coma. A few months later, Charlie decides to quit his job and move on. During his last visit at the hospital Tess wakes up and after talking to him for a while she begins to recollect her memories as a ghost.
July 30, 2010, 10:51 a.m. CST
And I just heard that Charlie from Always Sunny is sexier than Depp to women...huh?
July 30, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST
He's a ghost like his brother? His brother is still alive and he's the ghost? He's dreaming the whole thing? The girl is a ghost and ends up with his ghost brother?
July 30, 2010, 11:10 a.m. CST
July 30, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST
I think he is a terrible grown man actor. Anytime he plays a man, its terrible. Watched inception, shutter island, and revolutionary road, and man, he sucks to me. Instead of acting its like he just scream dialogues. I don't hate "pretty" actors, I find pitt great, cruise great, but leo is distractin. But he was good in beach and romeo+juliet
July 30, 2010, 11:13 a.m. CST
July 30, 2010, 11:14 a.m. CST
See comment two steps above you. Also, that sounds like a pretty cool twist.
July 30, 2010, 11:14 a.m. CST
What AIC reader out there wanted two reviews of this movie?
July 30, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST
All the reviews can't be on a bunch of Marvel films!
July 30, 2010, 11:42 a.m. CST
Ur people here are keen to have your thoughts.
July 30, 2010, 11:51 a.m. CST
pay off. Sometimes staying with your perceived niche might be better in the long run. Just ask Elizabeth Berkley. Then again, as much as her career didn't take off, at least she's not doing stand-up in pizza joints like Screech, so maybe it was the best move for her after all.
July 30, 2010, 12:03 p.m. CST
...a late review of Inception by Harry than two reviews of Charlie St. Cloud. Seriously, who on this site is considering seeing that movie? I'm wondering if Harry is just stumped on how to approach a review of Inception.
July 30, 2010, 12:09 p.m. CST
by Quake II
I haven't read jack shit about the 2010 SDCC Tron Legacy panel and new trailer on here. Did I miss it or did AICN drop the ball? In fact I've had to check out other sites to read about comicon this year. Coverage on here this year is shit. But a movie no one on here will see gets 2 reviews (3 more to follow I'm guessing).
July 30, 2010, 12:11 p.m. CST
Not super hot, but she's bangable after seeing her in Sex Drive
July 30, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST
by Quake II
I mean seriously? Two reviews for this turd and I haven't read a single sentence about Salt (a movie I was kinda curious about). I had to go to rottentomatoes to read some Salt reviews. Even if it's shit, why no reviews for a summer action film?
July 30, 2010, 12:14 p.m. CST
by Quake II
Anyhow. Let's get a dozen more reviews for Charlie St Cloud and less comicon news. Please! :)
July 30, 2010, 12:16 p.m. CST
by Troy McNamara
...we fucking get it! Leo DiCpario looks like a little kid. Jesus Christ, I'm so sick and tired of hearing it...it's gotten so old.
July 30, 2010, 12:22 p.m. CST
No mention of Lawrence Fisbhurnes daughter doing porn in the tbs?
July 30, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST
July 30, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST
July 30, 2010, 12:44 p.m. CST
Is Bruce Willis in this?
July 30, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST
by Royston Lodge
...who NEVER visits Ain't It Cool News!<p> Ya might as well post another review of Sex And The City II...
July 30, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST
July 30, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST
by Royston Lodge
Never, no way, no how.
July 30, 2010, 12:50 p.m. CST
July 30, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST
Some things you can tell are shit just by seeing 3 seconds of the trailer. This is one of those things. Maybe Massa took some chick to see this and is trying to impress her. (Don't get upset, Massa, just a wild guess to explain this disturbing turn of events.)
July 30, 2010, 12:58 p.m. CST
'Cause thats the ONLY thing that would get me into the theatre to see this POS.
July 30, 2010, 1:02 p.m. CST
The chick and the brother are still alive, they were just coma-ghosts, not full-fledged dead-people-ghosts. To celebrate, they take a trip to New York City to visit Charlie's estranged father and make amends. While the chick and the kid wait in the lobby, Charlie has a heart-to-heart with dad, but whats's that sudden roaring noise outside? Fade to black... final shot of clouds of debris and smoke as a newspaper flutters by, zoom in to extreme closeup on the paper, the date at the top is (G-GULP!) September 11, 2001!
July 30, 2010, 1:12 p.m. CST
that's the reese witherspoon/mark ruffalo film massawyrm is referencing. both films have donal logue in them.
July 30, 2010, 1:52 p.m. CST
But I don't think anybody's surprised
July 30, 2010, 2:04 p.m. CST
and i laughed my ass off...seriously it was just sappy ridiculous...toward the end of the trailer it shows charlie having to make a decision to go out and rescue his potential new GF cuz the girl's in trouble and the Coast Guard is unable to get out to her...which means only Charlie can save her but at the price of losing ghost little brother..honestly it just looked like utter pathetic and predictable crap.
July 30, 2010, 2:05 p.m. CST
Depp, Ledger, Dicaprio RIGHT OUT OF THE FUCKING GATE were incredibly talented dudes, who CLEARLY had gravitas and pathos. Especially Dicaprio, who had already been nominated for an Oscar by the time Titanic came out and made Romeo and Juliet and The Basketball Diaries and been brilliant in both. Depp had more edge in his little finger than Efron could ever have in his darkest most heroin addicted day, and Ledger had a natural vulnerability that Efron couldn't possibly hope to achieve by widening his eyes and looking pensive. Ledger was also a lot more rugged than the twee Efron. I mean Jesus Christ can you imagine Efron playing the time tortured Ennis Del Mar, if you can, fuck you you're lying to yourself. The fact that you cannot differenciate between any of this shows why you'll never be a good commentator of film. And for every guy you mention, there's a David Cassidy or, to be incredible generous to Efron, a Rob Lowe, who isn't terribly interesting when he's young, but gains just enough inner life to be a solid TV actor.
July 30, 2010, 2:07 p.m. CST
that he gets blown off the screen by another actor who only "arguably" has a more interesting role. This after going on one of the most absurd and hyperbolic defenses of an actor I've ever seen. Jackass.
July 30, 2010, 2:43 p.m. CST
all the way back in 1993. Anyone who thought either of those was eye candy, especially Decaprio in that film, just wasn't paying attention. Doesn't add much to your credibility to admit you were one of those fools.
July 30, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST
I'm divided. I thought he carried a cliche and poorly written "17 Again" and was very solid in "Me and Orson Welles." OTOH, he takes no risks and with everything handed to him I wonder if he focuses enough on honing the craft.<p>I definitely agree that Hollywood pushes him because he's a "safe" product and that is bothersome.
July 30, 2010, 3:10 p.m. CST
A) why is this movie even being reviewed? I doubt someone who reads AICN was planning on seeing it, or thought it was anything besides sugary crap <p> B) Why are there two reviews? <p> C) Why can't we be told the twist, even with spoilers? This isnt fucking Iron Man III, no one here will see it. I just wikipediad that shit. <p> D) Why is this being reviewed but not Inception, a discussion on Inception, Salt, Dinner for Schmucks, or Despicable Me...movies that could be good or bad, movies AICN crown might see? Surely a 10 dollar movie ticket is worth a few thousand hits and dignity. <p> E) Zac Efron sucks. Might as well debate if the guy from Twilight has acting chops.
July 30, 2010, 3:35 p.m. CST
that massa's reviews couldn't get any gayer...
July 30, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST
If he was the voice in someones head saying "YOU SURE FUCKKKKKED UP BOB" <p> Seriously - in terms of analogies Massa, those three films you cited weren't breakout roles for anybody. Efron needs now to tell his agent just to say no to '17 Again' type movies for the next ten years. The problem is though, Efron is a plastic perfect mannequin who can't act for shit. Look at Ledger in '10 Things I Hate About You'. Sure he had the looks to pull off the charmer, but he had the depth to give the character a vulnerability far more than it deserved. <p> Feck why are we even talking about this shit? Two reviews about this horsecrap when a mountain of cooler stuff waltzes on by. I'm off to watch 12 Monkeys and pray Efron doesn't nab someone to remake it with during his lunchbreak.
July 30, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST
So the twist is the same as in the anime Kanon? That's kinda lame, but I did love it in the anime.
July 30, 2010, 5:57 p.m. CST
If he had a role like Bale in American Pyshco. Remember Leo turned that one down for "The Beach". You can't blame the guy for playing it safe at the moment,He's working towards a larger goal.Turning down the FootLoose remake was a big step in the right direction. I think he could have pulled off playing the new Spiderman. Don't be a hater. I wasn't a Ledger fan until he started doing the edgier stuff. Remember, before the Dark Knight there was A Knights Tale...
July 30, 2010, 5:59 p.m. CST
was that annoying kid on a stupid fucking alien sitcom (in my dumb opinion) until I saw him in Kill Shot.That movie is under rated.
July 30, 2010, 7:32 p.m. CST
You ran out of credibility. I'm not even going to waste my time reading your review.
July 30, 2010, 7:37 p.m. CST
I remember after Star Wars seeing Mark Hamill as a background character in the war movie "The Big Red One" and looking at Zac Efron's pic in the newspaper (never seen one of his films), I'd think he'd make a great character in a WW2 film (along the lines of Saving Private Ryan, etc as just one of the boys in battle). <BR><BR>I think good things will come of this kid and we'll see where he's at in the forthcoming years.
July 30, 2010, 8:13 p.m. CST
unless your date is as lame as you...Massa, you only saw it because you wanted to review it, I would assume.
July 30, 2010, 8:35 p.m. CST
Girls like the sensitive shit.Even fan girls. I'd rather take a chick to see this than any of that Twilight shit. Take one to see this and next time you go you get to see The Expendables. All Massa is saying is there is a lot worse shit out there and this guy is not a bad actor. I'm with him on this opinion,there is a lot worse shit to see with a girl on a date. I'm guessing Ginger Mcfatass Harry will be telling us to go see StepUp 3D if we want to get laid.
July 30, 2010, 9:10 p.m. CST
i don't think heath ledger was ever considered a typical "pretty boy." sure, he was a romantic lead in a teen comedy but the guy had a lot of weird tattoos and he embraced his receding hairline AND did drugs. Point is, Efron has embraced his Disney-like cleanliness for far too long. Neither the fans nor the studios would ever take him seriously in a movie like the Dark Knight for fear of being laughed out of the audience. At best this guy is going to have a Warren Beatty career. One, maybe two memorable films and a lifetime of nothing much else.
July 30, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST
If Talented Mr. Ripley hadn't been remade so recently, he could have done that role. Not the way Damon did it, but how Delon played it in Purple Noon, just gliding from murder to murder. A role like that might work. Hell, if I were Efron's agent I'd just send him a DVD of Delon's work, and say "do this."
July 30, 2010, 11:01 p.m. CST
July 31, 2010, 12:54 a.m. CST
compared to what? knees to the groin? this was pedestrian at best. mediocre, tolerable, forgettable. This should have been on Hallmark Channel.
July 31, 2010, 1:03 a.m. CST
July 31, 2010, 1:05 a.m. CST
Isn't it weird that AICN would run two posts about Charlie St. Cloud; a movie that pretty much no one reading this site would care about? And isn't it even weirder that while both these posts acknowledge that the movie isn't great the authors hammer home the point that Zac Efron sure has the potential to be a big name actor someday! What's more likely; that two AICN contributors were so inspired by Efron in Charlie St. Cloud that they felt the need to extol his wonderfulness or that someone paid to get these pro-Zac Efron posts written in the hopes that maybe we movie geek-types will think of Efron as less of an annoying pretty boy and more as the next Johnny Depp?
July 31, 2010, 7:06 a.m. CST
Efron has been living off it 4-5 years strong? He's gonna need to play a junkie or half-retard
July 31, 2010, 8:05 a.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
Yes, Doctor_Strangepork, I fucking HATE that trailer cliche. As soon as I hear that "WHISSSSSSSHHHHHHHHH", I know for certain that the movie in question being advertised is gonna be a piece of sentimental tripe (also used in the trailer for that Harrison Ford/Brendan Fraser doctor movie from January).
July 31, 2010, 8:23 a.m. CST
July 31, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST
by Alice Cooper Stalker
Efron can't stick to safe, nearly identical movies if he wants to grow. He also can't pull an Elizabeth Berkley and go from Disney flicks to near X-Rated movies. There needs to be a progression that allows him to continue to stretch his skills and for his audience to grow with him and get used to him in a different light. Time will tell. I'm not knocking him (except to say that I think he should have done Footloose as a stepping stone) yet.
July 31, 2010, 1:49 p.m. CST
This will color my perception of everything else he ever writes.
July 31, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST
Iron Man 2 seems like AGES ago, and Inception was the only one worth seeing in the theater. All these ones I can wait for DVD.
July 31, 2010, 5:03 p.m. CST
That's a 4 gold stars in my book.
July 31, 2010, 9:01 p.m. CST
Seriously, where the fuck are the comic con scoops and trailers, etc?? I need to find another movie site methinks...
July 31, 2010, 9:36 p.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
Like Iron Man 2 was any good?
July 31, 2010, 9:43 p.m. CST
I enjoyed Iron Man 2, but it was average compared to the first one. all that hype for THAT piece of shit?
Aug. 1, 2010, 1:34 a.m. CST
I get the distinct impression comic-con was weak this year. No site is making a big fuss.
Aug. 1, 2010, 6:58 a.m. CST
I thought Leonardo Di Caprio was an unproved powerhouse of talent when he bounched off Johnny Depp in Whats Eating Gilbert Grape (a truly brilliant movie) - Inception and Body of Evidence (not to mention the Aviator) prove my point!! Brad Pitt was low in my books until Fight Club and Snatch; Heck even Farrah Fawcett was fallow until the Burning Bed and Extremities (both brilliant movies - SEE THEM!!). Zac Ephron has only to prove his point, and everyone should give him his chance.
Aug. 1, 2010, 8:36 a.m. CST
Thanks, Massa. Good review. After reading it, however, I can't help but think this film will be a load of simplistic shlock.<p> If they had made the twist that he wasn't actually talking to his dead brother, but thought he was, that might've been interesting.<p> But as is... nah. Thanks anyway.
Aug. 1, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST
Aug. 1, 2010, 5:03 p.m. CST
It was BODY OF LIES ... BODY OF EVIDENCE was that shit with Madonna and William Dafoe , come on man. Big fan of Leo. One of few actors that you can rely on. I trused Bale once, but then he did Terminator 4 and his presence from now on doesn't secure me in not seeing shit.
Aug. 1, 2010, 5:28 p.m. CST
You're right, I mixed them up (and with that horrid Madonna film - ugh!!). Sorry, that was a screw up. Still, the point was there.
Aug. 3, 2010, 3:48 a.m. CST
And all those pretty boys aforementioned, they had to bust their balls and ass to prove their worth and quality, to the poin they had to send off their pretty boyish looks, even when they were very young and at the height of their youthful good looks, to be taken seriously. And it is as it should.