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Guillermo Del Toro To Direct AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS In 3-D For Universal! James Cameron To Produce!

Beaks here...

The Elder Things are ready for their close up. Michael Fleming of Deadline New York is reporting that Guillermo del Toro's next film will be his long-awaited adaptation of H.P. Lovecraft's "At the Mountains of Madness" - with James Cameron joining Don Murphy and Susan Montford as producers. And it's going to be shot in 3-D. I first heard this was a possibility last week at Comic Con, but when del Toro's DON'T BE AFRAID OF THE DARK panel came and went without an announcement, I figured there was still work to be done with regards to securing the necessary financing from Universal. Interestingly, Fleming's article avoids any mention of budget or rating, both of which are integral to properly transferring Lovecraft's short story to the big screen. My understanding is that the film will be big (probably with a budget in the neighborhood of $100 million), but I've got nothing reliable as to whether it will be an R or PG-13 rating. I know Guillermo has always dreamed about doing AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS as an R-rated tentpole horror film in the tradition of THE THING or THE EXORCIST; it's my hope that Cameron's involvement will persuade Universal to give del Toro free, terrifying rein on a movie I believe he was born to make. Please don't hold this guy back. Now that the cat's out of the bag (perhaps prematurely), I hope to hear more from del Toro, Murphy and Montford on how they plan to realize Lovecraft's horrifying vision. If done right, this could be one of the scariest movies ever made.

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  • July 28, 2010, 10:11 p.m. CST

    eh

    by BillboeFett

    5th?!

  • July 28, 2010, 10:11 p.m. CST

    2nd!!

    by BillboeFett

    wow, people are asleep all over the world

  • July 28, 2010, 10:13 p.m. CST

    holy shit.

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    bout fuckin time

  • July 28, 2010, 10:13 p.m. CST

    3rd?

    by BillboeFett

  • July 28, 2010, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Anyone ever heard Wayne June

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    narrate Lovecraft audiobooks? Creeepy!

  • July 28, 2010, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Gory R-rated...

    by catlettuce4

    Lovecraftian film. Yeah... I'm hoping for PG-13 myself. Lovecraft's brand of horror was all about the fragile human mind, not explicit gore like every other modern horror film. IT's part of why they can't get his works translated right. But I'm betting Guillermo knows that and will treat this right, given a chance.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:14 p.m. CST

    CUE DON MURPHY SCREAMING AT TALKBACKERS

    by BillboeFett

    like he did in the Transformers TB and others

  • July 28, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST

    $100 million would seem to cue a PG-13 rating.

    by Captain Happy

    Unfortunately. But prove me wrong Guillermo!

  • July 28, 2010, 10:17 p.m. CST

    9th

    by BEYONDTHUNDERDOME2GIRLS1CUPBILLCOSBY

  • July 28, 2010, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Great

    by Iahael

    Before anyone starts hating, this is great news, Del Toro will do Lovecraft in big budget, groundbreaking justice. T.'.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Holy shit is right

    by Clabog592

    its about damn time there was some truly geek worthy news to get completely excited for. I'm going to remain optimistic and hope this doesnt fall through

  • July 28, 2010, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Holy shit, fuck yes

    by CrunchyMilk

    This is literally the only movie in existence I wanted him to do more than the Hobbit, so I guess this is a win.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:19 p.m. CST

    I still don't believe it, but its real, isn't it?

    by BillboeFett

    I never thought this day would come. Me being first, not the delay on Mountains of Madness.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Would it need to be R?

    by terry1978

    Granted, I have read the story and other incarnations of the story, but it's more of a mindfuck thing as opposed to a gorefest.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    yes.

    by stellanskarsgaard

    This makes me happy.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST

    This is seriously cool news, sure

    by Jackie Boy

    But Harry, you gotta lay off the Del Toro headlines a bit. I know he's a friend and talented and geek friendly but it's getting out of hand! It's almost to the point where I'm getting tired of reading his name on the site- too much overexposure is what makes people turn on even the greatest works.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:26 p.m. CST

    Now THAT'S what I'm fucking TALKING ABOUT!

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    None of this retarded-assed Haunted Mansion bullshit!

  • July 28, 2010, 10:26 p.m. CST

    It's official - Del Toro is the new Whedon

    by RPLocke

  • July 28, 2010, 10:27 p.m. CST

    It's too bad that Don Murphy has anything to do with this.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Just because.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:28 p.m. CST

    I could see R even without gore

    by Jackie Boy

    If he does the story justice, and it is truly "one of the scariest films ever made," the MPAA could probably give it an R for how unsettling and disturbing it is.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:30 p.m. CST

    The best news.............

    by RoarsLoudly

    Out of Comic Con

  • July 28, 2010, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Holly Shit!

    by FlamingNipples

    The World is coming to an end... This has to be the most awesome news in a while.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Needs to be an R rated movie but also an Entirely adult film

    by Willbraham

    Theres no need or room for cliches on this project

  • July 28, 2010, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Fuck 3D.

    by GrandMuffTarkin

    Fuck it in the ass with a Chinese monkey.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Finally!!!

    by Mikey_Likes_It

    This will be his legacy!!!

  • July 28, 2010, 10:34 p.m. CST

    Good.

    by MaxTheSilent

    It'd make up for the giant, high, curly shit he took on his fans by announcing that bullshit HAUNTED MANSION sack of shit.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:34 p.m. CST

    Although, 3D sucks a fat cock.

    by MaxTheSilent

    Forget that, Guillermo. It's bullshit.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Suck it 3d haters.

    by gotilk

    Shove it up your one empty eyehole.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:39 p.m. CST

    RP Locke

    by Dharma4

    Wrong. Very wrong. Del Toro is a far more superior director and write than Whedon will ever be.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Not against 3D

    by FlamingNipples

    3D in the right hands can enhance a movie... The lame ass job of post conversion is what sucks.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:40 p.m. CST

    "Can I play with Madness?"

    by ToMonicker

    "He said your blind... Too blind to see..." In 3D!

  • July 28, 2010, 10:41 p.m. CST

    3D makes sense for this...

    by DoctorWho?

    ...especially if it's done with the same care and understanding Cameron used.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:45 p.m. CST

    The Cameron haters can say what they want

    by southafricanguy

    , but you have to give the man his due, he backs stuff like this (and Soderberghs Solaris) when he cpuld be backing any old shit that would make money. But instead hes going to be the 1000 pound gorilla in Del Toro's corner, and you better believe that means no-one will be fucking with him.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:48 p.m. CST

    I really don't think any post

    by Fuzzyjefe

    could convey the AWESOME I feel about this. I think my brain is broken with happy.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:50 p.m. CST

    And Beaks....there is no question that its

    by southafricanguy

    Cameron's involvement here that has secured a big budget from Universal, I suspect that without Cameron producing, we may not be seeing this film, or at least not at the level it now can be done...

  • July 28, 2010, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Had to check the calendar to make sure...

    by Stryder

    ...that it's not April 1st. This is pretty amazing news. Even if it does get the PG-13 treatment, I think it could still be extremely frightening. After all, Lovecraft has always been about what you *can't* see...

  • July 28, 2010, 10:56 p.m. CST

    It will ultimately disappoint...

    by conspiracy

    I just don't see how any Lovecraft novella can transition to film and keep the impact. Your imagination can scare you far better than any CGI thing put to film.</p><p>Will it be Cool? Probably...will it be as weird and twisted as what you thought of when you read Lovecraft? Probably not.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Holy... Mother...

    by Johnny T Williams

    Are you sure? Are you sure? Is this real? Wow... just wow... I.. I didn't think I'd live to see this day.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:59 p.m. CST

    lets place bets now, I say because its 3D, its pg-13

    by BillboeFett

    who wants to take my bet?

  • July 28, 2010, 11 p.m. CST

    There is a God, and His name is Cthulhu.

    by robogeek.com

    All hail Hypnotoad!

  • July 28, 2010, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Lovecraft is all about imagination

    by DinoBass

    and Mountains isn't much of a story (and is more a mood piece), but I guess that gives Del Toro lots of room to be creative. If it's a darker Hellboy on a cosmic scale, it could be fantastic.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Del Toro is...

    by LuminousBeing

    Overrated. Especially by this site. I'm sorry, but it's true. I'm not just hating. I've been reading AICN for nearly 10 years, and it's becoming REALLY biased, especially towards guys that the editors have personal relationships with. I was NEVER excited about Del Toro directing The Hobbit because the feel of his movies have a very "high budget SyFy movie"-feel to them. Feel free to tell me if I'm wrong.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Saaaweeeet! And I don't care about the rating.

    by Jaka

    Nor do I understand why so many people make such a big deal of it. If it's a great film it's a great film, doesn't matter if it's rated G or NC17.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:06 p.m. CST

    NOW WE'RE TALKIN'!...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...this just shot to the top of my most anticipated list.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:07 p.m. CST

    because pg-13 means artistic compromise and somehow R doesn't?

    by WickedJacob

  • July 28, 2010, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Oh, how I wish I was Future-Fuzzy

    by Fuzzyjefe

    I would have seen this already. <p> Future-Fuzzy is a lucky bastard. I hate him.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Just read it

    by bee152

    I just read it last year for the first time. I also read The thing from outer space right after. I always thought there was a connection between the two. Both are fantastic. Gonna be good.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Why 3D?

    by Yelsaeb

    At the Mountain of Madness didn't seem like a 3D thing to me. And I hope they go with an R rating, just because.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:13 p.m. CST

    WickedJacob, but that's just it - it doesn't!

    by Jaka

    Not at all. It means no full frontal nudity for long periods of time and no extreme graphic hardcore violence. But there is so much that can be done in a PG13 movie these days. Plus, I don't want a Saw movie, or a slasher flick. I want to be SCARED, which really has nothing to do with gore. Don't get me wrong, R rated, fine! But I don't base my opinion of a movie or decide what I'm going to see by a rating. That just makes no sense to me.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:14 p.m. CST

    DID SOMEBODY SAY CTHULHU?!?!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Awww yeah! After a long hiatus, it's back, muthafuckas! Taking you back to those CLOVERFIELD days, here's the meme to end all memes...it's the CTHULHU DANCE!!!<P>C, c, c, c<br>T, t, t, t<br>H, h, h, h<br>U, u, u, u<br>L, l, l, l<br>H, h, h, h<br>U, u, u, u<P>CTHULHU!!!<P>We can dance like Cthulhu<br>We can answer to his call<br>Watch him kick Lady Liberty's head<br>down the road like a soccer ball<P>Say, we can dance like Cthulhu<br>Live it up while the livin's good<br>Cause once he awakens, the world starts shakin'<br>and there goes the neighborhood<P>Say, we can dance, we can dance<br>Great Old Ones are in control<br>We can dance, we can dance<br>Hear them callin' the call<br>We can dance, we can dance<br>Terror makes you go in a trance<br>We can dance, we can dance<br>Everybody's shitting their p-a-a-nts<P>The Cthulhu Dance<br>The Cthulhu Dance<br>The<br>Cthulhu Dance<br>YEAH!<P>It's the CTHULHU DANCE!!!

  • July 28, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST

    It would be awesome if the right hand of doom pops up

    by MrEkoLetMeLive

    As a statue or something in the ancient city that lies beyond the mountains. Oh man could Del Toro maybe get Mignola to do concept sketches? Thank God James Cameron is in on this to keep Don Murphy at bay. Truly his works are far more terrifying than anything that spilled from the mind of Lovecraft.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST

    On opening night,...

    by foonacha

    Isn't the world supposed to end during the premiere screening? 3D projecting the Elder Gods back into our dimension & cue the screaming!....R Rating FTW

  • July 28, 2010, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Oh I am SOOOO happy

    by Briannicus

    Now we won't hear any more bitching about this movie not being made.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Audiences all over the world

    by Fuzzyjefe

    going all Sam Neill like In the Mouth of Madness.... <p> Plague of lunatics! Lost islands erupting from the oceans! Cats and dogs, LIVING TOGETHER!

  • July 28, 2010, 11:22 p.m. CST

    I read the script

    by shmu65

    Pretty effin' awesome. Good news to hear

  • July 28, 2010, 11:25 p.m. CST

    FUCK YEAH!

    by Neosamurai85

    Nuff said.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:25 p.m. CST

    FUCK. YES.

    by blakindigo

  • July 28, 2010, 11:32 p.m. CST

    So Del Toro is using the Pace/Cameron Fusion Camera System?

    by blakindigo

    I'm in.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Fuck the Hobbit right in it's ear, sideways, bitches!!

    by Tall_Boy66

    Now this is a movie you drop taking Peter Jackson's leftovers for. Rot in Hell, Hobbit, bring on the horror! The horror!

  • July 28, 2010, 11:40 p.m. CST

    Mr. Del Toro....

    by Jdigz

    I would totally go down on you right now.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Nice Gayus Has Personal Issues

    by CharlesThomasMathewsMom

    Gayus what is your problem? Don Murphy is the air you breathe. He is the food on your plate. Don Murphy is the spring in your step. You used to sell pencils by the freeway and now you have a job cleaning public toilets thanks to Don. One day he may even give you a brush. Stop being a bitch.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you CharlesThomasMathewsMom.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Otherwise known as Don Murphy...or Cunty Two-Chins. Take your pick.<P>But never mind that now. Just know that he is a man-child who patrols internet messageboards in a sad, never-ending quest to silence his detractors...as if it were actually possible.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:58 p.m. CST

    MR. NICE GAIUS AND CHARLESTHOMASMATHEWSMOM.........

    by gruemanlives

    I DONT LIKE EITHER OF YOU. SARAH PALIN 4 PREZ 2012 YA'LL!!!!! Also, the yogi bear movie looks hillarious! Can't wait to see it....IN 3-D! I am also glad they are remaking LET THE RIGHT ONE IN. It soooooo screamed for a makeover.

  • July 28, 2010, 11:58 p.m. CST

    Gayus Tries to Match his Betters

    by CharlesThomasMathewsMom

    I do not wish to silence you. You post in this cesspool faaar more than I ever do. I just feel sad. Why not call Don up instead of obsessing for him here?

  • July 28, 2010, 11:59 p.m. CST

    ...I prefer Cunty Two-Chins...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...I'm going to be laughing about that all night.

  • July 29, 2010, midnight CST

    ...Mr. Nice Gaius, your song needed a few of these...

    by FlickaPoo

    ♫♪♪♫♫♪♫♫♪♫

  • July 29, 2010, 12:02 a.m. CST

    gruemanlives

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I pity you.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:08 a.m. CST

    "...Tries to Match his Betters."

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Yeah, you've already used that one a number of times, Chuck. You need new material if you're going to wade around in this so-called "cesspool".<P>Call Don up, eh? Is that your attempt to claim you're not him?

  • July 29, 2010, 12:09 a.m. CST

    FlickaPoo

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Ha! Just sing along to the tune of "Safety Dance" and it will all fall into place.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:09 a.m. CST

    CHARLESTHOMASMATHEWSMOM is Don Murphy?

    by Toilet_Terror

    Really? I can really tell Don Murphy that his collective contribution to this species' existence is like the pot-holes in an AIDS victim's face? <p> Great!

  • July 29, 2010, 12:10 a.m. CST

    LuminousBeing,

    by Captain Happy

    you're wrong.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:13 a.m. CST

    don't have a clue what this is about, will have to read up on it

    by Waka_Flocka

  • July 29, 2010, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Finally!

    by cheekerpot

    Side project this, project that. Del toro has had years to flesh this movie out in his mind, it will be spectagorelacular!

  • July 29, 2010, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Gayus Whiffs Again

    by CharlesThomasMathewsMom

    Gayus what can I say? Your sad infatuation with a much more successful man makes you a true figure of Tragedy. Yer Mama? Is that the handle you picked freely? How proud your own mama must be of her loser boy.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:30 a.m. CST

    As much as I love Lovecraft

    by SmokingRobot

    I'm not sure this story will translate well to film. It's very literary. I really don't see it working as a movie.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Did someone say Don "Fucknut2chins" Murphy

    by Phategod2

    You lost my money right there pal. Don Murphy is a fucking prick, personal experience bro, his sycophants are pricks, he's a prick and the only good thing that came out of transformers is Michael Bay telling Murphy to go Fuck hisself.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:33 a.m. CST

    TONIGHT'S DREAMS...

    by Player01

    ... all over the world tonight, many will share the same dream, of a deathless city, awaking, bursting from the horrid outer realms of the lost Pacific, and a door of strange geomteries opening to reveal - Guillermo's big cheezy grin. I CANNOT FUCKING WAIT!

  • July 29, 2010, 12:35 a.m. CST

    Smoking Robot

    by Player01

    WTF? It is possibly one of the most 'unliterary' stories of Lovecrafts! At least they get the hell away from the Miskatonic! An expedition to the Mountains of Madness? Yes please, I can smell the oil from the old aircraft right now.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:37 a.m. CST

    Guillermo Del Toro can film little bo peep and I'd buy a ticket

    by Anything But Tangerines

    Lovecraft? Any studio numbnut who stands in the way of this project ought to have their eyes replaced with hot coals

  • July 29, 2010, 12:38 a.m. CST

    YES

    by Party_Animal_IV

    Totally excellent!!!

  • July 29, 2010, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Its about time!

    by MonsterKilledThePilot

  • July 29, 2010, 12:53 a.m. CST

    This is truly Amazing News!!

    by BlackBriar

    With Del Toro behind this Project it will be one Fantastic Film! But, give the man complete freedom he wants a hard R. With a big budget it will be tough to get an R from Universal, But this is guaranteed to be a success with a Del Toro and R rating backing this film. Make it happen Universal!!

  • July 29, 2010, 12:56 a.m. CST

    Not a Del Toro fan

    by The Rebel

    Not one of his films ever got to me. Hellboy I&II are absolutely horrible to look at: goofy, cute monsters in goth sewers, all in popping colors. Nope his worlds aren't mine. Praise the Lord he is of the Rings.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:58 a.m. CST

    This is why I come to this site

    by getngoogly

    To read news like this! Cannot wait.

  • July 29, 2010, 1 a.m. CST

    Midnight in the Lonesome October

    by SquireWamba

    would make a great movie...you producers out there...get on it :)

  • July 29, 2010, 1:07 a.m. CST

    impossible geometry in 3D!

    by frank cotton

    and some would rather have had HOBBITS? MADNESS, I SAY, MADNESS!

  • July 29, 2010, 1:14 a.m. CST

    Too good to be true

    by drturing

    Hence, Don Murphy's involvement. Oh well, he's gonna get treated like Johnny Drama so it's ok.

  • July 29, 2010, 1:18 a.m. CST

    a serious question

    by Dollar Bird

    How do you all think this is going to play out as a movie? I just read the novella for the first time a few months ago and it was a lot of fun, but the whole story is: radio says they found this weird thing, radio says they found another weird thing, then they go find another weird thing, then they find another weird thing, then they find a ton of weird things, then a weird thing finds them and they run away. (spoiler!) I think if done in a certain way, it could unfold as some kind of paleontological mystery ("What are these fossils?"), but the narrator kind of spells everything out when he interprets the carvings on the ancient walls. (Which is a fun, pulpy idea, kind of terrifying in that "how much has come before us that we will never know about due to erosion and glaciers and the improbability of something becoming a fossil".) But why would some of you hope this be a hard R? There's no gore, really. A few dead bodies here and there, and half of them are Elder Things. Will the shoggoth be so disturbing that it will warp our minds and demand an R? Or will we see the unfolding of the sublimely ancient, aloof force/universe/being that drives the narrator's companion to near insanity and THAT will demand an R rating? I would love to see someone's visuals for the ancient city buried in ice and the Elder Things, but I'm really curious how this could unfold as a story on film. Honestly, I'd think there would have to be a lot of deviation from the book to make an engrossing feature-length film.

  • July 29, 2010, 1:20 a.m. CST

    "Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fthagn R'lyeh!" Cries DOOM!

    by V. von Doom

    As a worshipper of the Great Old Ones (and game master of an excellent CoC campaign) DOOM is pleased at this development. This is a justifiable reason for Del Toro not working on "The Hobbit".<p>For you fanboys who haven't read the story, DOOM assures you: There are at least three times in MoM where there's gore aplenty. Lovecraft was skilled enough to only hint at the horror -- he did not need to use graphic details.<p>Del Toro will surely take an appropriate approach. Compare the subtlety of the "Dagon" movie's terror to the all-out in-your-face road taken by "H.P. Lovecraft's Necronomicon".<p>Iä! Shub-Niggurath! The Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young!

  • July 29, 2010, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Dollar Bird

    by V. von Doom

    The "few dead bodies" are sliced up in hideous ways -- alien creatures are trying to dissect beings they have no relationship to in a biological sense. There is also a clear indication some of the men and dogs were used as Elder Thing Happy Meals, having been sprinkled with salt.<p>The point is, Lovecraft would never just come out and say "the man's head was cut open perpendicularly to his spine" or such twaddle. He only described the disturbing nature of the bodies's condition indirectly.<p>This is where a good filmmaker needs to stop and think: How does one show how a completely alien creature treats being thrown into a human/Earthly environment. Lovecraft goes into that later in the story himself and creates sympathy for the Elder Things, lost in time and separated from their own race and era, only to discover the shoggoths won in the end.<p>There need not be deviation from the book. Only the careful handling of details the book could not (and should not) describe out loud.

  • July 29, 2010, 1:41 a.m. CST

    frank cotton

    by V. von Doom

    The easiest way to create "impossible geometry" is to make it as a standard film and then convert it to 3D.<p>DOOM had no problems watching "Avatar", which was designed for this technique. Watching "Alice in Wonderland" gave DOOM a headache -- too much crap flying around for no good purpose.<p>If it's done right the idea of seeing a non-Euclidian n-dimensional pyramid translated to 3D makes DOOM's gauntlet blasters tingle.

  • July 29, 2010, 2:09 a.m. CST

    Fantastic. Good luck, Mr. Del Toro. Can't wait!

    by Mr Nicholas

  • July 29, 2010, 2:10 a.m. CST

    Geekgasm

    by Doctor_Strangepork

    I confess, immediately after I came I checked to see if it was April the 1st.

  • July 29, 2010, 2:14 a.m. CST

    Cool. News.

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

  • July 29, 2010, 2:15 a.m. CST

    Hope they keep it faithful

    by Ciderman

    Here's hoping they keep it set in the early 20th century and don't try to update it to now with a bunch off buff young actors as the stars, nor succumb and put actresses in where there aren't any in the story.

  • July 29, 2010, 2:19 a.m. CST

    The US needs a MA15+

    by bestbond

    rating I'm tired of all this PG13(M in Australia)shit. The battle scenes in the LOTR could have been so much better.

  • July 29, 2010, 2:33 a.m. CST

    Thank you

    by Brewtix

    Mexico for giving us Guillermo!

  • July 29, 2010, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Finally some cool news

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Can't wait for this one.

  • July 29, 2010, 2:47 a.m. CST

    Can't wait to see the 'making of' on the DVD

    by kwisatzhaderach

    James Cameron and Del Toro talking intelligently and at length and then Don Murphy coming on...

  • July 29, 2010, 2:49 a.m. CST

    6-foot penguins!

    by judderman

    tic-a-tee-lee! tic-a-tee-lee!

  • July 29, 2010, 3:01 a.m. CST

    An idea of pg-13 lovecraft film...

    by tomimt

    ...is an abomination from the deeps.

  • July 29, 2010, 3:24 a.m. CST

    Del Toro + Lovecraft + 3D

    by UrbanSamurai

    This could seriously become the most terrifying movie ever made!!! If you do not believe me, check out the book, it is scary as hell.

  • July 29, 2010, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Am I excited? Yes. Do I think Del Toro's direction will capture

    by Eliywahoo

    Absolutely not. While he definitely has his own style, I feel he is too epic and not minimal, which is the direction I feel the story needs. It was a very claustrophobic world that requires the director to not use sweeping shots and epic camera angles. I don't get that impression from Del Toro, I hope he doesn't go too over the top. The story is so intimate, I hope he does not lose sight of that.

  • July 29, 2010, 3:49 a.m. CST

    and HORROR will never ever be the same again

    by HEADGEEK

    This is going to be Epic Horror. A genre that does not yet exist. CAN NOT WAIT!

  • July 29, 2010, 3:57 a.m. CST

    Del Toro not intimate??

    by Bootskin

    ...I think you jest sir...

  • July 29, 2010, 4:06 a.m. CST

    The Elder Gods have finally released their Madness

    by bloodawn5

    In other words HOLY SHIT!!!!

  • July 29, 2010, 4:09 a.m. CST

    Ciderman....don't get your hopes up.

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    The novella is a work of genius but while the setting is cinematic, the story isn't. I have no doubts whatsoever that while they may keep it set in it's original time period (if we're lucky) Del Toro most certainly is going to have to make a lot of changes. A female character or two is inevitable, as the least of the changes that are going to be made. I think DT will make a good adaption, but it won't be as faithful as everyone is hoping for.

  • July 29, 2010, 4:10 a.m. CST

    Awesome! 3D might be cool for ...Loss of Sanity!

    by GetAnAxe

    Coolest news I've heard in a while

  • July 29, 2010, 4:10 a.m. CST

    BEST NEWS EVER

    by CuervoJones

  • July 29, 2010, 4:14 a.m. CST

    Praise Cthulhu!

    by Darth Scourge

    Great news. Being freed from Hobbit commitments has finally allowed Del Toro to go ahead with this movie. This could not only be the greatest Lovecraft adaptation so far, but one of the best horror movies EVER.

  • July 29, 2010, 4:18 a.m. CST

    Now...

    by Bruce Leroy

    THAT is cool news.

  • July 29, 2010, 4:18 a.m. CST

    Eliywahoo

    by CuervoJones

    I don´t know, man, buy Kronos and The Devil´s Backbone are quite claustrophobic. And half of the Lovecraft´s novella are descriptions of giant buildings.

  • July 29, 2010, 4:23 a.m. CST

    wow

    by gutshot

    cant really think of anyone who would be a cooler pick for a movie of this kind. someone mentioned that the mind can create much more terrifying imagery than the movie with its CG. most all of guillermos stuff is real(puppets, elaberate costumes, forced perspective hallways, etc.) , with small parts added in post, like fake eyes being made to blink. also, it is going to be the awesome kind of 3D, because cameron is working on it. it will not me lame after the fact bullshit. im sure. perhaps it will even be unparalleled 3d imagery, that would be awesome.

  • July 29, 2010, 4:28 a.m. CST

    yes, please

    by frg10

    may it be true ... but they can always canned it like HALO movie

  • July 29, 2010, 5:05 a.m. CST

    the 3d bubble has burst..

    by emeraldboy

    and it has not eroded failing ticket prices.

  • July 29, 2010, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Tekeli-li

    by CuervoJones

    Tekeli-li

  • July 29, 2010, 5:27 a.m. CST

    Fast track it please...

    by L. Ron Bumquist

    because I can't wait.

  • July 29, 2010, 5:48 a.m. CST

    Del Toro doesn't need $100million to make a...

    by L. Ron Bumquist

    film that looks like it cost $100million. But imagine what he could do with that much.

  • July 29, 2010, 6:18 a.m. CST

    Imagine...

    by HEADGEEK

    A Jim Cameron produced feature film expedition to the Antarctic regions of the planet. Shooting where none have tread. Being directed by the loving soul of horror, Guillermo Del Toro. We will learn what super-sub-zero temperatures will do to Guillermo's nutsack. I guarantee it.

  • July 29, 2010, 6:20 a.m. CST

    Finally...a H.P. Lovecraft film that works?

    by sonnyfern

    Others have come close (In The Mouth Of Madness) but if anyone can pull it off right, Del Toro can. As a Lovecraft freak, I'm beyond excited for this!

  • July 29, 2010, 6:20 a.m. CST

    Please let this be true

    by mychuma

    And let the corporate entity not swallow this and puke it out in the Abandonment cellar next to those poor little hobbits.

  • July 29, 2010, 6:20 a.m. CST

    Thing is, At The Mountains Of Madness, like most Lovecraft

    by V'Shael

    horror, is not that scary in modern terms.<br /><br />And while I love reading Lovecraft, I don't think I've ever been *scared* while reading it.<br /><br />I think it would be a bad idea to start telling people who might not be familiar with the guys work that this will be the SCARIEST MOVIE EVER!! Because it won't.<br /><br />It could be a thrilling awesome spectacle. But it's not going to appease the modern jaded horror-sated audiences.

  • July 29, 2010, 6:22 a.m. CST

    Fuck, I hate RPLocke

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    But I love this news! In the middle of a Lovecraft re-read through right now - The Colour Out of Space, The Shadow Over Innsmouth, The Whisperer In Darkness, The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, and, of course, At the Mountains of Madness. Even my Netflix queue is loaded up with a couple of bios as well as every Lovecraftian adaptation I could find. Can't wait. Can't wait. Can't wait. This is gonna be great!

  • July 29, 2010, 6:26 a.m. CST

    Tekeli-li

    by bah

    ...is actually a Poe invention, from his one novel, "The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket"

  • July 29, 2010, 6:29 a.m. CST

    Great to hear Cameron's involved!!!

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    This means Del Toro will get the money he needs to film ATMOFM as it should be filmed. This will be his OPUS. I. Can. Not. Wait. For. This!!!

  • July 29, 2010, 6:45 a.m. CST

    I finally got around to reading this story about a month ago.

    by rbatty024

    I think it would make a great fit for Guillermo. He might have to increase the gore factor, but the atmosphere of the novella is something he can absolutely capture. In fact, I might be more excited about this than the Hobbit.

  • July 29, 2010, 6:57 a.m. CST

    Could be Del Toro's masterpiece

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Hopefully Cameron's involvement will protect Del Toro from the suits. Number 1 most eagerly anticipated film on my list now.

  • July 29, 2010, 6:58 a.m. CST

    3D "Mountains Of Madness"?!

    by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder

    Well....It might really work to illustrate the "inhuman and impossible architecture" that Lovecraft was always yapping about...I've tried to imagine what that might to look like since I was a kid, and was never happy with what I came up with. Maybe our boy del Toro can figure it out, because "mood" should have so much to do with this movie. Lovecraft was always much better at building dread and tension than he was describing action.

  • July 29, 2010, 7:02 a.m. CST

    Madness s/b done like Spielberg did Jaws

    by leo54304

    The creature(s) should never be fully seen til the right time and then boom!! They're more horrifying then your worst nightmare and you're all alone in a sea of ice and no one can save you. Watch Jaws and you'll how it the perfect way to shoot this movie.

  • July 29, 2010, 7:03 a.m. CST

    Lian Neeson as lead

    by leo54304

    With that voice doing the narrative would really help make the movie even scarier. Plus he just seems the professor type.

  • July 29, 2010, 7:06 a.m. CST

    leo54304

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Good call.

  • July 29, 2010, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Harrison Ford would be an ironic choice

    by leo54304

    Won't happen but if he did, would like the following dialogue. Red shirt intern:So Doc, why did you chose to join the expedition? Ford:To get away from my wife.

  • July 29, 2010, 7:08 a.m. CST

    'bout damn time

    by NippleEffect

    now the real painful waiting begins

  • July 29, 2010, 7:08 a.m. CST

    leo54304

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Holy shit, Ford would be an incredible choice. Doubt he'd do it though.

  • July 29, 2010, 7:11 a.m. CST

    Pans Labryinth proved Del Toro can do Madness

    by leo54304

  • July 29, 2010, 7:19 a.m. CST

    If Del Toro wanted Ford heres his sales pitch:

    by leo54304

    It'll make people forget the Crystal Skull and no CGI monkeys!!

  • July 29, 2010, 7:22 a.m. CST

    Dp's are more important than producers.

    by alienindisguise

    Since they're in charge of what hits our eyeballs. I'm so sick of hearing and seeing " from the producer of" or "the studio that brought you" I mean who really gives a fuck outside of losers who think they're in the know about movies?

  • July 29, 2010, 7:25 a.m. CST

    Still want Neeson though and first scene s/b:

    by leo54304

    Movie opens in a semi dark profs office of Neeson. Typical profs office of the day: shelves of books, papers scattered everywhere, artifacts on the walls, desk a mess and camera pans to Neeson. Sitting at his desk with only one light on, writing in his journal. Camera looks over his shoulder at the words he's writing in his journal which you then hear Neeson begin his narrative. Scene changes to artic and movie begins in earnest.

  • July 29, 2010, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Think they'll have to change look of creatures

    by leo54304

    they initially found? Cuz even I had a hard visually figuring out what they looked like.

  • July 29, 2010, 7:37 a.m. CST

    bah is Right -- SO SAYS DOOM!

    by V. von Doom

    Correct, Poe used "tekeli-li" first in "The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym" to hint at the unknown in the Antarctic.<p>Lovecraft (who worshiped Poe) ran with that and gave it a more monstrous meaning in MoM.<p>To quote the master, Danforth's "shrieks were confined to the repetition of a single, mad word of all too obvious source:<p><b>"'Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li!'"<b>

  • July 29, 2010, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Checking calendar...

    by ATARI

    It's not April 1st.<br> <br> SWEET!!!<br> <br>

  • July 29, 2010, 7:43 a.m. CST

    100 million isn't that much these days

    by James_Camera_On

    So maybe the budget will happen. Other than that, however, I will believe this movie when I see it. The Hobbit, after all, was a slam dunk and a guaranteed money maker, and we all know what happened to it. This is a much dicier proposition in terms of audience acceptance. Maybe Cameron could fund it out of his own pocket that way it would be sure to happen.

  • July 29, 2010, 7:44 a.m. CST

    kong Island s/b part of Cthulu mythos

    by leo54304

    Makes sense heres why: mysterious island in South Pacific, creatures lost in time, ancient ruins, isle of legend. Throw in a savage culture that breeds with and worships Deep Ones and Kong Island would fit nicely into the mythos. Sound like a great place to explore if your doing CoC roleplaying.

  • July 29, 2010, 7:45 a.m. CST

    One of the only scripts I've read...

    by Frat Boy

    where I was sincerely scared to keep reading, but I had to know where it was going. Not the bigget del Toro fan, but this is perfect for him. Great script. Definitely looking forward to this.

  • July 29, 2010, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Walton Goggins at the guy who loses it

    by leo54304

    He showed he can do crazy in "Predators" as the convict. And after that movie he deserves to be in a decent movie like I think this will be.

  • July 29, 2010, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Heh Heh..that would be cool for Cameron to

    by southafricanguy

    just fund it himself, and he could surely do it after earning over 350 mil from Avatar. But either way, its been confirmed on other sites that its absolutely due to Cameron's involvement that its getting such a large budget (and for horror, this is big budget), and I am sure Cameron will protect Del Toro and make sure its Del Toro's vision on screen.

  • July 29, 2010, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Killik...could nt agree more dude, if the haters

    by southafricanguy

    still want to bitch and whine about Cameron, just remember thats its because of him that this film is finally happening...

  • July 29, 2010, 8:05 a.m. CST

    BTW Headgeek.....wheres that update on

    by southafricanguy

    Battle Angel Alita you promised us about emailing Cameron about?

  • July 29, 2010, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Hell. Yes.

    by UltimaRex

    Not Superman news but still... Hell. Yes.

  • July 29, 2010, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Indeed some cool news!

    by Cervantes

    I'd rather this movie from Del Toro (along with HIS version of 'Haunted Mansion'), than 'Hobbit' ones anyway. I always preferred for PJ to tackle those himself too, to begin with.<P>Thank goodness Cameron has helped give this property a kick-start finally.

  • July 29, 2010, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Prepare to be

    by Darksider

    underwhelmed. Again. "And HORROR will never ever be the same again". Seriously?

  • July 29, 2010, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Hell yeah! My head just blew up!

    by letsfightinglove

    Now I need to go re-read Lovecraft.

  • July 29, 2010, 8:27 a.m. CST

    It's a pretty safe bet...

    by Damned if I can login

    ...that the final product will bear little resemblance to the source material. It'll have to be "updated" with the inclusion of females (of which there were *very* few in HPL's work) and other elements and details that are added and/or twisted so that - quote - "the film will appeal to modern movie-going audiences". In other words, it's most likely be dumbed down considerably.<p>But hey, GDT: Prove me wrong, muh-fuh...PROVE ME WRONG.<p>Show us that you have the balls to make the definitive HPL film from the definitive HPL novella. meh...never happen.

  • July 29, 2010, 8:29 a.m. CST

    This is thrilling news!

    by adolfwolfli

    There seems to be a few folks on the talkback who've read the script. Without giving away too much, how closely does it adhere to the novella? I think Del Toro is the only filmmaker on the planet who can pull this off, but I think for it to be a satisfying film, the story definitely needs to be fleshed out from a narrative perspective. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Lovecraft fan, and "Madness" is one of his best stories, but it's really just staged as a series of discoveries or "reveals". Del Toro has a challenge, that's for sure. There's a reason why some of the best Lovecraft movies aren't adaptations at all, but merely movies that classify as distinctly Lovecraftian, such as Carpenter's "The Thing" (which has echoes of both "The Call of Cthulu" and "At the Mountains of Madness") or even Ridley Scott's first "Alien" movie. I thin the reason has to do with the difficulty of translating Lovecraft's stories into the more conventional narrative modes that movies rely upon, given the stories – despite being ingeniously plotted – rely on a good amount of purely literary contrivances such as diary entries and letters within letters, etc. "Hellboy II" was one of the most Lovecraftian movies I've ever seen, especially the depiction of the giant elemental wreaking havoc on the city. I have utmost faith in Del Toro to pull this off....

  • July 29, 2010, 8:29 a.m. CST

    This is incredible.

    by blackwood

    Now that it's all realized hope and wonderful possibility, now that most people are on board with just the idea of the thing, the fact that it exists at all, that it has the backing of mighty Cameron and his two billion dollar machine, that this is Del Toro's passion project, which has been sneaking into every other film his made, like it can't be contained, that it's finally going to happen... I feel heartened about Hollywood for the first time in a long time.<p>Horror is often made on the cheap and brings in tons of profit. Witness SAW, or the microbudget PARANORMAL ACTIVITY. I feel like the existence of this film with this backers is like the universe rewarding horror for being a great place to make a buck on the cheap at the same as being a vital shared cultural experience that, in its way, is one of the most importantly human things we still do. Horror films are sitting in the dark by a flickering light and feeling eyes on the back of your soul.<P>In short, HIGH FIVE, WORLD. Yay. I need more coffee.

  • July 29, 2010, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Bleh.

    by Jeff Dee

    I see no reason to expect that this film will be LOVECRAFT's "Mountains of Madness", as opposed to DEL TORO's "Mountains of Madness". Am I the only person disappointed with the liberties he took on Hellboy? TWICE? And that was with Mignola looking over his shoulder. What chance has poor deal Lovecraft got?

  • July 29, 2010, 8:37 a.m. CST

    New at McDonald's: Elder Thing Happy Meals!

    by letsfightinglove

    Nice Iron Maiden reference, ToMonicker. Will they use Metallica's "Thing That Should Not Be" for the trailer?

  • July 29, 2010, 8:46 a.m. CST

    I've Just Come! Awesome News

    by KillaKane

    Canne wait for this 'un!

  • July 29, 2010, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Just PLEASE don't start using Lovecraft fiction names willy-nill

    by Squashua

    I hate that. Don't start naming people Pickman and Carter because you're trying to be amusing. That's actually stupid.

  • July 29, 2010, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Cameron.

    by MainMan2001

    The reason why Cameron's involved is so the film could be made in the right way. I'm positive it will be an R-Rated movie

  • July 29, 2010, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Creatures used weird piping noise didn't they?

    by leo54304

    Better include that in the movie. LP used that a bit in stories involving dark woods late at night or on a barren, windswept artic plain.

  • July 29, 2010, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Thought this was Marble Madness: The Movie on 3-D

    by Tikidonkeypunch

    Starring Benicio Del Toro

  • July 29, 2010, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Call of Cthulhu

    by godhelpus

    It will be a cool movie with Hellboy type monsters but it won't be scary. Del Toro doesn't have the sophistication as a filmmaker make a truly scary movie like the Exorcist IMO.

  • July 29, 2010, 9:58 a.m. CST

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw3tuiND_xk

    by Cervantes

    Type that in for an awesome mock trailer that's been kicking around for a good while now.<P>It always got me hoping for a proper movie of this story.

  • July 29, 2010, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Go Del Toro go

    by louisse

    Lets hope he never gets skinny like Jackson. No hard feelings towards Peter. Im sure he's gonna rock our asses with the Hobbit but god damnit man. Just make the film already and kick MGM's ass.

  • July 29, 2010, 10:02 a.m. CST

    WALKING DEAD TRAILER

    by Squashua

    http://bit.ly/aXFe9B

  • July 29, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST

    There should be NO spaces in that link though...

    by Cervantes

    ...this damned glitch is the worst thing about this buggy talkback forum. That, and the fact it seems to miss out letters/words at times, making it look like people can't type/spell properly!<P>Time for an overhaul there Harry!!

  • July 29, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST

    "Del Toro doesn't have the sophistication..."

    by blackwood

    Really? Because I thought PAN'S LABYRINTH was, like, incredible.<p>And so was BLADE 2.

  • July 29, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    dechiphering

    by zbend5

    is cthulhu actually in ATMOM? someone please clarify. thanks

  • July 29, 2010, 10:06 a.m. CST

    vauge ending

    by zbend5

    what does danforth see at the end that sends him over the edge? cthulhu?

  • July 29, 2010, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Does this really require an R rating?

    by moorE12

    I have never read the story, but I have read a synopsis and nothing seemed particularly bloody or violent. What happens in the story that requires an R-rating?

  • July 29, 2010, 10:24 a.m. CST

    zbend5 think thats part of the fun of story

    by leo54304

    Readers imagination is left to come up with what drove Danforth mad. Better not show it in movie as it doesnt have same effect. In HB they did same thing with cthulu creatures in sky over the dead earth and it wasnt scary. Impressive yes but horrifying no. Think it was Cthulu though.

  • July 29, 2010, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Don't think it will be R

    by leo54304

    All the mutilated bodies that are discovered by the main party occur after what happened to them but that shouldn't be so bad as to warrant an R rating. No actual carnage is written in the book but when the main party arrives at the forward camp all I can say is holy shit! The examination table with the human body still creeps me out. To be a part of the pary searching the camp, seeing this stuff and knowing what did is still out there would creep me out.

  • July 29, 2010, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Adrien Brody

    by Party_Animal_IV

    Adrien Brody is straight out of a Lovecraft book.

  • July 29, 2010, 10:35 a.m. CST

    @Ciderman

    by Yaroukh

    > Here's hoping they... > ...nor succumb and put actresses in where there aren't any in the story. +1000

  • July 29, 2010, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Will love to see his visuals for the city

    by leo54304

    regarding architecture, statues, size and scope. How he lights it, etc. Needs to be very alien too. Remember how well Alien worked with its corridors, poor lightning and clausterphobic atomsphere? Think that would work well in the city.

  • July 29, 2010, 10:36 a.m. CST

    @Ciderman, take 2

    by Yaroukh

    "Here's hoping they ... nor succumb and put actresses in where there aren't any in the story." +1000

  • July 29, 2010, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Again, Liam Neeson would seal the deal for me

    by leo54304

    as the professor/protagonist.

  • July 29, 2010, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Putting Kurt Russell in the movie

    by leo54304

    would be a nice tip of the hat to John Carpenters "The Thing".

  • July 29, 2010, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Cthulhu

    by godhelpus

    No doubt in my mind that they will include the monster Cthulhu in this, probably in the climax.

  • July 29, 2010, 10:47 a.m. CST

    "Epic horror"

    by ColonelFatheart

    No, this won't be the first one, although it will be the first in a while. If I recall correctly, Newsweek's Jack Kroll called THE SHINING the first "epic horror film," and I tend to agree. http://tinyurl.com/27ycqzq<p>It looks like GDT is aspiring to those heights. I salute him and expect the best! I am anticipating the shit out of this.

  • July 29, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST

    I hope GDT approaches this with the heart-attack

    by ColonelFatheart

    seriousness of PAN'S LABYRINTH and THE DEVIL'S BACKBONE. If so, like THE SHINING and THE EXORCIST, this would warp a whole generation or two of kids' minds.

  • July 29, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST

    KURT

    by louisse

    Bring in the Russell!

  • July 29, 2010, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Bring in Russell and Ford. Fuck it. Why not?

    by ColonelFatheart

  • July 29, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST

    This story isn't HORROR

    by Damned if I can login

    It's science fiction, with elements of suspense.<p>We all know that HPL wrote during a time when the concept of aliens, or prehistoric non-human civilizations were not as readily accepted. Hell...often enough they weren't even a consideration in the minds of the general public. Yeah, there were a few novels such as War of the Worlds, but still a lot of the things that tended to *really* frighten HPL's characters would merely fascinate a person of today's world, where Lovecraftian ideology appears in Spongebob episodes.<p>Lovecraft often described total *horror* from his characters when they discover that aliens existed on this planet before humans. Although these characters never seemed to be the least bit frightened to enter some ancient house, tomb, ancient city, etc.

  • July 29, 2010, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Wow

    by Captain_Arsehole_from_the_Planet_Cunt

    Just made my day! :)

  • July 29, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Bagel13

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Here ya go: http://pursuitist.com/arts/thor-comic-con-trailer-watch/

  • July 29, 2010, 11:38 a.m. CST

    DANCE WITH DRAGONS is out this December!!!!

    by Nice Marmot

    Hey, its April 1st somewhere in the universe . . .

  • July 29, 2010, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Marmot, you fucker!!!!

    by ColonelFatheart

    You had me legitimately blown away.

  • July 29, 2010, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Not that anyone cares, but what does this do

    by ColonelFatheart

    to THE HAUNTED MANSION?

  • July 29, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST

    You right on SF with horror Damned but HP

    by leo54304

    is recognized by the literary world as one the most influential horror writers of the past century. Even Stephen King praised work as one of the best at writing the classic horror tale. So while I don't disagree with your excellent post, I'll side with King on this one. Again, great post.

  • July 29, 2010, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Finally

    by moviemaniac-7

    About time that movie got made...

  • July 29, 2010, 11:51 a.m. CST

    The story itself may not be "horror," but the important

    by ColonelFatheart

    thing is that GDT views it as such, meaning we're going to get a horror movie. Ostensibly, THE THING and ALIEN were science fiction movies, too, but they also qualifies as horror. The two genres are not mutually exclusive.

  • July 29, 2010, 11:54 a.m. CST

    they also *qualify*

    by ColonelFatheart

  • July 29, 2010, noon CST

    Add original Thing from another world

    by leo54304

    to your DVD collection. Still holds up well after 60(?) years but get in BW not color. Snappy dialogue, suspense, unstoppable creature, isolation. Talk about chthulu inspired.

  • July 29, 2010, noon CST

    Fuck yeah fuck yeah fuck yeah!!!!

    by sam jacksons wig

    You just know with his passion for this project that Del Toro will knock this one out of the fucking park!!! I would watch this guy make a movie about writing the phone book, so file this one under "Finally- AICN has some real fucking cool news to report!!!"

  • July 29, 2010, 12:05 p.m. CST

    The story doesn't have to be R, but I think an R-rating....

    by rbatty024

    would benefit the film. Most of the violence of the novella was "off screen," but Lovecraft does describe some mutilated bodies. Of course, I tend to think that stories need to change in order to make the transformation between mediums. So, whatever is in the final product could be slightly different.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Bay better not think about putting Cthulu

    by leo54304

    type monsters in transformers 3. Would ruin the publics idea of what the cthulu mythos is all about.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:08 p.m. CST

    HOLY FUCKING YEEESS!!!!!!!

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    HOLY GOD, this will be glorious! Finally...Now if The Hobbit finally gets rolling, we're really go to see some serious shit in the next couple of years.....

  • July 29, 2010, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Question on the R rating for the mutilated bodies

    by leo54304

    Not sure guidelines are for this. Since the violent act wasn't seen on screen and we only get to a skinned and surgically examined dead body. Will have to wait and see. Didn't predators show skinned bodies and only get a PG13? Speaking of predators, cost was $40 million and has taken in $95 million. Betting on a sequel.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:15 p.m. CST

    by PeanutButterSlut

    The Bloop is the name given to an ultra-low frequency and extremely powerful underwater sound detected by the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) several times during 1997. The source of the sound remains unknown. <p> The sound, traced to somewhere around 50° S 100° W (a remote point in the south Pacific Ocean west of the southern tip of South America, NEAR R'YLEH HP's lost city), was detected repeatedly by the Equatorial Pacific Ocean autonomous hydrophone array,[1] which uses U.S. Navy equipment originally designed to detect Soviet submarines. <p> According to the NOAA description, it "rises rapidly in frequency over about one minute and was of sufficient amplitude to be heard on multiple sensors, at a range of over 5,000 km." The NOAA's Dr. Christopher Fox does not believe its origin is human, such as a submarine or bomb, nor familiar geological events such as volcanoes or earthquakes. While the audio profile of the bloop does resemble that of a living creature, the source is a mystery both because it is different from known sounds and because it was far too loud: it was several times louder than the loudest known biological sound. Five other significant unexplained sounds have been named by NOAA: Julia, Train, Slowdown, Whistle, and Upsweep.<p> Dr. Christopher Fox of the NOAA speculated that the Bloop may be ice calving in Antarctica.[7] A year later Dr. Fox was paraphrased speculating it was likely animal in origin.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:15 p.m. CST

    rbatty, I agree.

    by ColonelFatheart

    I think GDT will have to change the story, or at least how it's told, for it really to pay off with today's audiences.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    This shit is real guys

    by PeanutButterSlut

    cthulhutruthers.net

  • July 29, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Lemuria will rise again!

    by ColonelFatheart

    Commence the lizard-people fucking!

  • July 29, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

    by PeanutButterSlut

  • July 29, 2010, 12:18 p.m. CST

    LATINO REVIEW did a script review for this in 2007!

    by standundermyumbrella

    Folks, off the bat, Guillermo and his writing partner *beep* nailed it! It there is anyone who can adapt Lovecraft and even have a shot of doing it successfully it would be Guillermo. I read ATMOM back in High School and this is the project Guillermo was born to do. It will be his crowning masterpiece. The script has got action, it has got adventure, it has got science fiction, it’s got monsters, and of course it got horror in spades. Unless the callsheet don’t have monsters, Guillermo doesn’t show up. That is what he said on Charlie Rose. The script also has atmosphere. I read this in the dark and it was creeping the *beep* out of me as I read it. A script hasn’t done that to me in a while. This is the script Guillermo needs to do next. If monsters are your thing then this script is for you. Imagine the monsters from John Carpenter’s THE THING, but on steroids. Imagine a nasty shapeshifter sprouting eyes and tentacles from absolutely everywhere. To the studio - Are you guys’ pussies?! Do you realize the blockbuster you are sitting on? Who cares if there is no love story or supposed happy ending?! You got a horror and science fiction masterpiece collecting dust at the studio! Trust me, the horror crowd will come out in droves to see this! All those horror geeks will bring their girlfriends. Use those cartel drug dealer profits that Transformers is going to make at the box office and make this

  • July 29, 2010, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Cthulu is already among us.

    by ColonelFatheart

    He goes by the name of SARAH PALIN.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:19 p.m. CST

    No high-budget horror film has ever worked

    by Knuckleface

    I'm skeptical. <p>The most effective horror films have always been modest productions. Horror always works better when its subtle and suggestive, rather than 'in your face', which is what 3D portends in this case. <p> Be cautious.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST

    "You betcha!" is actually The Call of Cthulhu.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • July 29, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Skepticism noted, Knuckleface.

    by ColonelFatheart

    That's a concern in the back of my mind, too, but I think GDT is one of the directors who can take a big budget and imbue it with "low budget" atmosphere, if you catch my drift. It can be done. Look at THE SHINING. Now, GDT is no Kubrick, but this is a perfect marriage of sensibilities. This could be the LOTR of horror.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Watch the Cthulhu Conspiracy guys

    by PeanutButterSlut

    Was banned from you tube cause those damn democrats are hiding cthulhu shit form us, AMIRITE! or am i rigt........

  • July 29, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST

    by PeanutButterSlut

    cthulhu-info-battles.tv

  • July 29, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST

    blah blah 3D blah

    by mrgray

    Will it also be released standard 2D so that those of us who don't actually like 3D can enjoy it? Or are we getting exclusive with films now?

  • July 29, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST

    The Yog Sothuhuth deception

    by PeanutButterSlut

    Is another good vid. <p> It's all a battle for your mind dudes!

  • July 29, 2010, 12:30 p.m. CST

    The colours out of Cheney

    by PeanutButterSlut

    Also documents the Bush Admistrations purposeful destructive acts towards America, to appease Cthulhu, their lord and master. That actually sounds true. <p> fact-battle.org

  • July 29, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST

    The Shadow Over Crawford

    by ColonelFatheart

  • July 29, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST

    leo...

    by Damned if I can login

    I stand corrected. Having read and re-read most of his published works (I have the hardback 4-volume set, an excellent bargain, highly recommended) much can and must be considered full-on spine tingling horror. Although IMO the novella in question is most definitely more SF than horror, as were many of HPL's writings.<p>For a good horror story I always appreciated Medusa's Coil. The part where the narrator sees the painting still creeps me out. Although many critics bash his final reveal in that story, and I somewhat concur...it may have been more shocking to Lovecraft himself than to citizens of today's world. But my favorite HPL story is by far, The Temple. An excellent short story that is infinitely adaptable in it's pure form. Although too short to be a feature.<p>One day, I swear I'm gonna win the big lottery and I'll fund a 100% faithful screen adadptation of a Lovecraft story. Honest, I swear.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Terror that drives you insane can't be PG-13

    by kevred

    Lovecraftian horror shouldn't just be a special effect. It should be a combination of tone, music, writing, sound, buildup, lighting, and effects to absolutely terrify the audience. To break through the most jaded movie fan and simply scare them.<p>If it's just a monster, even if it's the best monster since Alien, it isn't enough, by the definition of Lovecraft's source material.<p>Del Toro got about 90% of the way there with the big creature in Hellboy, but this isn't a Lovecraft tribute - this is LOVECRAFT. This is it - the real deal.<p>If Del Toro can't put something on screen that is literally terrifying and unsettling, simply by its mere presence and appearance, then it will fail the source material.<p>I'm saying that as a fan of his work, a big fan of Lovecraft, and someone who hopes this will work great.<p>But this is the Unnameable, pal - you have to do something no one's ever done on screen before. Is he up to that? Is anyone?

  • July 29, 2010, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Remeber the snowfall scene in the Shining

    by leo54304

    when the kid is being chased by a crazed Nicholson in that maze? Update the scene to the city in the story. The characters being chased after discovering the secret of the city as snow falls. Taking liberties here but if they could capture the same magic from that scene in the Shining it would be something.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Right on the short story being more sci-fi

    by leo54304

    than horror with HP. Really a talented writer to be able to do both separately but able to bring them together when needed.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Still enjoy Horror of Innsmouth

    by leo54304

    The world and history he created with town just draws you in. His first narrative style really makes the horror/suspense that much more personal. A trademark of him.

  • July 29, 2010, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Damned, thanks for the list of fav's

    by leo54304

    Will give them a read

  • July 29, 2010, 1:40 p.m. CST

    LOL at 3D-haters

    by Yaroukh

    LOL at people who "don't like" 3d and go watch _the same movie_ in 2d. I could understand when someone does not like over-using 3d, but this is hilarious. Do you walk around with one eye covered so you don't get the damned 3d-vision? :P

  • July 29, 2010, 1:42 p.m. CST

    @Damned

    by Yaroukh

    That would be great. If you do that I'd probably... well I would ask someon to give you a B.J. :))

  • July 29, 2010, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Read the Script Here

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    http://tinyurl.com/26mmr3x <BR><BR>I just finished. If this screenplay reaches the screen in anything like this form, I'll be VERY VERY happy. It uses the skeletal structure outline of HPL's story (cosmic horror and all) and fills in the gaps. Terrifying and wonderful. <BR><BR> Seriously. I have chills. This is like an epic version of THE THING. Not perfect--but I'll be damned if it's not close enough!<BR><BR>And--oh yeah--this'll be a hard R.

  • July 29, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST

    I can only hope Del Toro uses more practical effects than CG...

    by Shut the Fuck up Donny

    Amorphous beings, (like in The Thing, The 80's Blob, The creature from The Raft in Creepshow 2), just seem to come across a little more creepy when they're not CG... <p> Also, if you do the effects right with humans, you get that added layer of creepiness that comes from the uncanny valley.

  • July 29, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST

    I agree, STFUD

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    The script as it stands will HAVE to utilize SOME CGI, but--as the screenplay seems to be such an homage to THE THING (which was in turn an homage to ATMoM once removed)--I can only guess that practical effects will be utilized where possible.<BR><BR>Seriously, guys. Read the script (link above). I'm now REALLY glad Del Toro left THE HOBBIT as director! This film could be a true masterpiece in the form the script is in now. There are some character moments/deepening that could be added (especially between Dyer and Danforth) but other than that I'm about as pleased as I could be with the screenplay. No way I could have come even close to writing something better.<BR><BR>It's a good day to be an HPL geek.

  • July 29, 2010, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Le Vicious Fishus

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Your link just takes me back to this thread?

  • July 29, 2010, 3:04 p.m. CST

    It would have been cool if Del Toro had filmed..

    by Stalkeye

    ..the House of The Dead adaptation (The game itself was inspired by Lovecraft's works.)since the guy has a great idea of cinematography not to mention a passion for imaginative Horror.instead we got Uwe Boll-ocks?!?<p>Enjoyed Blade 2 and Pan's laberynth but was very dissapointed by his hellboy films...speaking of which, the Orphanage has been sitting in my Netflix Queue for quite sometime. Gotta check it out before 'flix pull it from their lineup.

  • July 29, 2010, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Boring book

    by Chariowalda_Barbarossa

    Hold your fire, if only for a second. Not saying that it's going to be a bad movie, with Guillermo directing it it'll probably turn out a good one. I just can't understand why everybody's so enthusiastic about the book, I recently read it and found it to be quite boring and bit silly, not scary at all. (SPOILERS AHEAD!) Just some random thought about some things I didn't like about the novel. Maybe it just feels dated because these days we all know how horror stories work. He (Lovecraft and/or his narrator, choose which you prefer) spends ages keeping us wondering what happened at the camp. Hmm.... what could it be....? Then finally we find out those frozen aliens woke up an went amok. Surprise! Who would have guessed? Then there's these endless indications of what terrible revelations might lie ahead... they fail to build up suspense and and then the revelations themselves are not very terrible. And how often exactly do we need to be told that the mountains looked just like in the paintings of Nicholas Roerich? 46? 68? Oh, and big penguins are not very scary. Maybe there's a part for Danny DeVito in this movie? But what bothers me most, but maybe that's because I'm more of a science fiction reader, what bothers me most is the implausibility of how the narrator manages to give us a very detailed account of ancient alien colonization history of the planet earth. All deduced from wandering in (the ruins of) an alien city for about half a day, looking at artwork of a completely alien cultural background. Sorry, but I just couldn't buy it. That's some of the reasons why the Lovecraft omnibus is colllecting dust in my bookshelf. So maybe Lovecraft is just not my cup of tea, or maybe he's terribly overrated, or maybe I just picked the wrong work of his to start with. Any suggestions about which of his works might be worth a second try? And now for something completely different... I hope this news doesn't mean Cameron will be involved in Hellboy 3 in any which way, because he definitely is overrated.

  • July 29, 2010, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Lets stir a stick through this shit shall we

    by TheJudger

    If the film stays true to the book. This is how it will unfold. We open up with a man describing what happened to him and his group in the Antartic to a group of unseen people in room. We open up with 2 group of scholars from Miskatonic University exploring uncharted areas of the Antarctic on a scientific expedition. Group #1 is lead by William Dyer, our main character. They discover a set of ancient ruins shortly before Group #2 finds an underground cave while boring ice cores. Inside the cave is the remains of 14 ancient life forms. These life forms are unidentifiable as either plant or animal. Six of the 14 specimens are very badly damaged. The remaining 8 are in perfect condition, as if they just died hours ago. Their highly evolved features makes it difficult to determine their existence period on geological time scale. One of the scholars on the team notes that they resemble creatures referred to as the "Elder Things" in an ancient book called the Necronomicon. Group 2's radio communication with Group 1 goes dead, so Group 1 heads out to find them. When Dyers and his party arrive at the camp. they find all the men and dogs of Group 2 slaughtered, with one dog and one scholar of group 1 missing. Near the camp is 6 star shaped mounds (think ant hills- only made of snow) Inside these mounds are damaged elder things. The better preserved Edler Things are missing from the camp. Closer examination of the dead members and dogs of group 2 reveals that some sort of dissection experiment was preformed on them. <P> Dyer wants the cave are closed off. Dyer and graduate student named Danforth fly an airplane over the strange mountains they saw just beyond the ruins. Much to their surprise they find out the mountains are not mountains at all but rather large walls. which houses and inner stone city comprised of cones and cubical shaped buildings. Nothing at all like man made architecture. They land and explore the City. Dyer finds a cipher which helps him to decrypt the hieroglyphic murals. These murals explain how the Elder Things first came to earth shortly after the moon was pulled loose from the planet. The glyphs claim that the ancient things are the creators of life on earth, Seeders of Life if you will. The glyphs also say that they built this city with the help of the Shoggoths- things created to preform any task, to assume any form, and reflect any thought (think ray thinking stay-puff and oh no you look what the fuck happened!!!) <P> As Dyer and Danforth explore more buildings they as find out about a war between Star-spawn of Cthulhu and something called a Mi-go. The star shaped burial mounds make sense now. This elder things are the spawn of Cthulhu.<P> The Mi-go is said to have arrived to earth shortly after the Elder Things. The answer behind this conflict are unknown because the murals have been damaged by time or tampering. All that is know is that what ever caused it, it began shortly after the Shoggots gained independence from the Elders and they tried to maintain order. The final area of readable mural mentions some intense evil thing located inside an even larger mountain just beyond the city.<P> Dyer and Danfourth find 2 sledges and the dismembered bodies of the missing scholar and the dog from group 2. They suddenly realize that they are not alone in this city. That the Elder things from Groups 2's camp have obviously come back to life and they are in the city. This doesn't deter them from trying to find out more information about the elders and the city. The two progress further into the city they find a enormous entrance which leads into a tunnel, which they think will leads to the subterranean evil described in the mural. The find the elder thing corpses in what looks like an epic war of sorts. Then they find a bunch of giant 6 foot tall milky eyed blind penguins wandering around. Then a Shoggoth appears. It's described as a black bubbling mass of black goo. They used a diversion to escape with their lives. The Shoggoth eats one of the penguins. They race back for the plane as they take off Danforth looks back. He see's something beyond the larger mountain range where the evil is said to be. He loses his sanity. Dyers waits until the plane is over the wall before he can calm Danforth, he asks Danforth what he saw. Danfourth refuses to tell him. Dyer concludes that the elder thing and their civilization were destroyed by the Shoggoths they created. And this entity the Shoggoth has taken has been surviving in that area inside the tunnel on the large 6 foot tall blind penguins. We cut back to the room in the opening of the film. With the unknown interviewers laying in on Dyer. We find out that these people interviewing him are planned an expedition to go back out there. Dyer begs them stay away from the city, in fear that they may unleash evil upon the earth. ------------------------------- <P> So there you go, where is the R rating???? The dismembered corpses? Give me a break.. This was all set in a time and place when we didn't use obscenities that much when fear begot us. There is no need for this film to seek an R rating. This is not about gore. If I continue to hear R rating I will continue to cry foul!!!!!! This is a suspence film!!!!<P> Very little violence on screen. More about what you don't see, vs what you do. You should not see the great evil behind the last mountain either. Danforth see's it, mabey a hazed impossible to make out reflection of it refracting off of the front window of the plane as they fly away, but nothing you can distinctly make out. If DT shows it. He will ruin the spirit of the damn book.

  • July 29, 2010, 3:16 p.m. CST

    No fucking R

    by TheJudger

    better not. Read that shit and tell me it screams R rating!!!!

  • July 29, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST

    New Del Toro Script Link

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    Sorry guys. Here's the script link:<BR><BR>http://tinyurl.com/2fsmn5j

  • July 29, 2010, 3:25 p.m. CST

    sorry for a few typos

    by TheJudger

    That was a long frigging type-out for me. When I ment group 2. Group 1 stays behind at groups 2 camp while Dyer and Danfourth go investigate the moutains. No one from group 1 is missing. That was a typo.

  • July 29, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Oh, yeah--this movie will an R.

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    A hard R. And--yeah--it's still true to Lovecraft body and soul.<BR><BR>Read the script. You'll see what I mean.<BR><BR>Seriously, you have to drop everything you're doing (hyperbolically speaking) and read this script NOW before it disappears. I'm currently in HPL-geek heaven and may have to reread the damned thing immediately in-between work projects!

  • July 29, 2010, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Excellent post judger

    by leo54304

    The entity shouldn't be shown and let audience create their monster. As I mentioned in an earlier post: if you show the chtulu monsters as Toro did in HB while impressive don't horrify. Thats why the shark in Jaws was so horrifying to the audience: you didn't see him for a long time and your imagination kept making the shark more monstrous. Let the audience go to bed wondering what it was that was so horrible to make a man go mad with one look.

  • July 29, 2010, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Its gone Vicous but thanks for the effort

    by leo54304

  • July 29, 2010, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Nope--the script is still there

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    http://tinyurl.com/2fsmn5j<BR><BR>Just tested it.

  • July 29, 2010, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Len Wiseman directing Total Recall...

    by kwisatzhaderach

    ...from a script by Kurt Wimmer!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaah.

  • July 29, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Le Vicious Fishus

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Brilliant, thanks a lot for the link.

  • July 29, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST

    But it won't be as good as The Unnamable 2

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    The Statement of Randolph Cater... <p>Just kidding.

  • July 29, 2010, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Yes it is will have to read it. Thanks.

    by leo54304

  • July 29, 2010, 3:49 p.m. CST

    No prob, kwisatzhaderach.

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    Again--for newcomers:<BR><BR>The script may be read in its entirety at http://tinyurl.com/2fsmn5j

  • July 29, 2010, 4 p.m. CST

    Holy Shit Le Vicious this is gonna be good!!

    by leo54304

    Del Toro just went to sainthood from what I read. Stopped at pg 9 as I didn't want to go too far. Del Toro really did a nice jobe of "jazzing" up the start of the story and really put the horror and mystery in act 1. Thanks bud, owe you a beer.

  • July 29, 2010, 4:11 p.m. CST

    You're very welcome, leo...

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    Again, folks: <BR><BR>http://tinyurl.com/2fsmn5j<BR><BR>Read that script.<BR><BR>And if you're able to stop reading at page 9, leo, you're a better man than me...

  • July 29, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Cameron's involvement guarantees quality

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    Perhaps something good will come of Del Toro's departure from The Hobbit after all. Cameron is producing a lot of stuff recently -Sanctum, Fantastic Voyage, Nagasaki Deadline, and now this. All good stuff. Better than Spielberg lending his hand to idiots like Bay. Now if only we could get some info on his next move - which will hopefully be shooting Avatar 2 and Battle Angel back to back.<P>...Oh, and it'll amuse me no end if Avatar's re-release next month outgrosses Scott Pilgrim' entire run, after AICN has even co-opted the Sly Stallone Q and A to continue to shill it to us. Is there any level to which they will not stoop?

  • July 29, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Will Critics slam Cameron before the movie

    by RPLocke

    even comes out?

  • July 29, 2010, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Read the Script Here

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    http://tinyurl.com/2fs mn5j

  • July 29, 2010, 4:25 p.m. CST

    http://tinyurl.com/2fsmn5j

    by Le Vicious Fishus

  • July 29, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST

    RPLocke

    by kwisatzhaderach

    No

  • July 29, 2010, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Alot of touches from The Thing

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    in that script, in terms of action and visual descriptions. Not sure about all the buildup before the actual voyage; seems too much of a conventional Hollywood beginning. Would have preferred something more minimalist in terms of representing the opening narration from the original story. I think they show their hand too early in hinting at the horrors to come. Otherwise it is definitely compelling stuff.

  • July 29, 2010, 4:33 p.m. CST

    My problems with the script are minimal...

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    Don't have a problem with the Act I framing device (which owes a lot to HPL's "Call of Cthulhu" rather than Hollywood to my mind), but I would like to see a bit more of a character-arc/deepening throughout (especially between best friends Danforth and Dyer).<BR><BR>Other than that minor quibble I'm about as pleased as I could be with this remarkably tight and polished screenplay draft. Hope Universal doesn't muck it up.<BR><BR>Read it, if you aren't already: http://tinyurl.com/2fsmn5j

  • July 29, 2010, 4:46 p.m. CST

    And yeah, it IS R

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    SLIGHTLY SPOILERY: There is a lot more action depicted in the screenplay than in the original story (not to say the screenplay comes off as a Lovecraftian Aliens), and much of it involves various forms of death and grue.. Whether that is a good thing or bad is another question, although I can see where 90 - 120 minutes of slowly building implications -such as is the original story- may not be viewed by the filmmakers as best for the screen(especially with 100 mil involved).

  • July 29, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST

    I understand now! Hopefully Sam Worthington wont star

    by TheJudger

    I hope Dyer is a realitive unknown. Look how well Sharlto Copley unknown status worked for District 9- Granted he was a long time friend of Neill Blomkamp.

  • July 29, 2010, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Agree there's way too much of "The Thing"

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    in this thing. But they're "retooling" the script now, according to Deadline. With Universal rebooting Thing separately, they can't really include a host of homages in this project, can they? <p> BTW, I think it's safe to say Ron Pearlman IS Larson the Dog Handler.

  • July 29, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    As someone who has read ATMoM many times...

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    and loves/reveres it, I state my own opinion that the basic storyline and the philosophical thrust and cosmic horror of the original is completely intact in the film script draft in question.<BR><BR>Sure, there's mucho violence and the horrors that remain largely off-stage in the novella are bigger than life in the script, but--if THE THING is any indication--a cinematic adaptation that uses ample effects and violence CAN work (whilst remaining truly Lovecraftian). <BR><BR>Yes, the artsy-literary side of me rebels against such a take, but the practical side of me knows that a good film of this kind can only sustain hinted at horrors and off-stage grue so far before it becomes a visual borefest.<BR><BR>IMHO, Del Toro and company succeed magnificently at crafting a script that is exciting and simultaneously as Lovecraftian as any script or script treatment I've ever read (or seen onscreen).<BR><BR>Again, read the script at http://tinyurl.com/2fsmn5j

  • July 29, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Well you all know this is the story that inspired

    by TheJudger

    John W Campbell, Jr's "Who Goes There" which eventually was adapted into The Thing From Another World, and John Carpenters The Thing. This is the Godfather of all those works.

  • July 29, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Ah, but...

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    THE THING is an homage to ATMoM (via "Who Goes There" and Carpenter's love of Lovecraft). In essence, Shoggoths are the original THING. I have no problem with its use here.<BR><BR>Script: http://tinyurl.com/2fsmn5j

  • July 29, 2010, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Toro went with showing a bit of tje horror

    by leo54304

    As a way to hook the audience in right away so the audience wouldn't get bored. The hospital scene was a shocker ala Alien and damn it worked! Only comparison of book to movie for this type of material is Jaws. Spielberg got rid of the clutter of the book and made into a movie designed to one thing: scare the hell out of you. Jaws was savage death up close, bloody and the victim rarely died quickly. Getting the same vibe from Toro that he's got lightning in a bottle. Only thing missing is Hellboy.

  • July 29, 2010, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Except AtMoM didn

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

  • July 29, 2010, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Except AtMoM didn't have a dog-headed thing in it

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    for the entire third act.

  • July 29, 2010, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Shoggoths are the original "Thing" so true

    by leo54304

    Gotta feeling ATMoM has a shot at being a classic like "The Thing". If this movie turns out like I hope, a 3 pk DVD of the original thing, Carpenters version and ATMoM would be a great idea. Along with plenty of extras of course.

  • July 29, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST

    The important thing

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    to me is the audio-visual presentation of the the story. Liberties taken with the source material aren't a deciding factor in whether I see this in the theater. The "right" framing, sound-scape, lighting, etc. can make up for any disagreements I have at the plot level.

  • July 29, 2010, 5:25 p.m. CST

    The Shunned House

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    a simple little Lovecraft tale. To me underrated, but a great example of his ability to create a feeling of dread before anything is revealed.

  • July 29, 2010, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Scarlett, it BS the thor trailer you're posting

    by leo54304

    You did it on the Yogi thread and it leads to a conservative website. Usually I'll read what you say because you do some good stuff sometimes. But save your politics for another site. Thanks.

  • July 29, 2010, 5:47 p.m. CST

    The Terror does have HP feel to it

    by leo54304

    and has gotten good reviews. What makes it so interesting is that back when the Brits were looking for a NW passage this kind of thing happened regularly. Ship gets stuck in winter and has to wait for summer thaws to get moving again. Problem is sometimes the summer thaws didn't happen for 2-5 years. Learned about this in the book OFF the MAP by FERGUS FLEMING. Its an icredible book, look it up on amazon.com for more info.

  • July 29, 2010, 6:08 p.m. CST

    We OWE Cameron a big thank you

    by leo54304

    To get the budget and R rating for this movie. Without him, this movie would not be made. Cameron really showed some class last year with the whole academy award thing. Every interview had at least one question regarding the exwife and he never lost his cool. Like to think he has lost some of the arrogance he seemed to give off earlier in career.

  • July 29, 2010, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Thanks Mr. Nice Gaius

    by Lornsorrow

    for the Cthulhu Dance mix. Loved it! ANNNDDD, this is all truly great new. Break out the rum, or your choice of intoxication. Really hope this is something we are going to see. FINALLY, we could very well have something good here. Good, as in John Carpenter's the Thing good. Let's hope they go all out for this.

  • July 29, 2010, 6:35 p.m. CST

    by leo54304

  • July 29, 2010, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Check web for buried antarctic mountain range

    by leo54304

    existing where one shouldn't at all. Shades of Cthulu

  • July 29, 2010, 6:40 p.m. CST

    'slurp' that's just me drinking the Kool Aid

    by donkingkong

    not giving bj's to Guillermo... Don't know how the hell he translate this book into a movie, but confidant he'll turn it into cinematic gold. Definite fanboy gold. You can thank Mr. Cameron for getting this thing off the ground.

  • July 29, 2010, 6:44 p.m. CST

    The Terror was a fun read...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    And I sincerely hope GdT someday gets around to producing his announced adaptation of Dan Simmon's other novel, "Drood"...

  • July 29, 2010, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Finished the read, and my thought are...

    by TheJudger

    Why rip off the damn poster from The Thing??? The hood coated man is the final symbol of the film and we all know where it's coming from. They ignore the evil thing behind the last mountain at the end. It just does not happen. Dog and people Thing like creatures. I don't like that. Salt Water is the Fire. Again the original book didnt care to give the Elder things a weekness. Too much The Thing in this, sorry but really that's all I can see when I read these parts. The Elder Things Slaves- aka the Sloggoths can be anything. They don't have to absorb shit to become those anythings. That is all liftoff stuff from Carpenters take with the "Who goes there" short story and TTFAW. This screenplay reads like a Thing Prequel, more so than a At The Mountains of Madness adapt. The only thing it did for me was make me wish they would make a sequel to The Thing that takes place on a freighter bound for iceland or something like that. <P> I felt more insulted by the ending, and it ignoring the coolest part of the whole book. That sucked some serious egg. Danforth dies like a bitch....

  • July 29, 2010, 7 p.m. CST

    Shoggoths

    by TheJudger

    Slog- wtf

  • July 29, 2010, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Isn't it in rewrite now?

    by leo54304

    And if original script doesn't have the classic ending I'll be pissed. If its in rewrite they better include the original ending.

  • July 29, 2010, 7:18 p.m. CST

    GDT's aesthetic sucks.

    by Raymar

    There, I said it.

  • July 29, 2010, 7:42 p.m. CST

    TheJudger

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    Each to their own. Me, I pretty much loved it.

  • July 29, 2010, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Oh Wow, I Bet This Is Gonna Be Great!

    by LaserPants

    Know what would be even better though? AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS directed by Alejandro Jodorowsky. (I think that's spelled right.)

  • July 29, 2010, 7:56 p.m. CST

    Yeah Baby

    by Cobbio

    This is extremely cool news. I mean, EXTREMELY. In the biggest way imaginable. James Cameron producing a big-budget film by Guillermo del Toro?<p> Fuck yeah! I'm excited as hell for this.<p> I haven't read a lot of what Lovecraft wrote, but I've read some. It's pretty twisted, otherworldly shit. I can't imagine Del Toro's baby being anything less than "R." Which makes me very happy.<p> Bring it on!

  • July 29, 2010, 8:09 p.m. CST

    WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE 3D?

    by gotilk

    So you'll cry in your sleep, that's why. Boo hoooo!

  • July 29, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST

    will ccthulu appear in movie?

    by zbend5

    well if this works maybe we will get a call of cthulu movie.

  • July 29, 2010, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Read a draft of the script here

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    http://tinyurl.com/2fsmn5j

  • July 29, 2010, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Mountain of madness of Del Torro--

    by dahauk--

    I'm so tired of DT announcing his involvement with future movies that never come to pass..how big is his list of movies now, 20? 30? Don't get me wrong,i've enjoyed all the films of his i've seen, i'm just tired of him tacking his name onto stuff that we may or may not ever see, apparently just to keep his name in the fan press.

  • July 29, 2010, 10:23 p.m. CST

    If they don't the big bad Cthulu in this sucker

    by leo54304

    then it won't be a cthulu movie. Remember how tiny and insectlike man is this mythos? If use the shoggoths as the evil of the madness, well thats just madness. When Spielberg finished shooting Jaws, he made 2 endings. One was the shark finally drowned due to the barrels (anticlimatic and real), the other one he went for the big bang finale. He tested it with a group of oceanographers and showed them both endings. Then he asked them which one they preferred and they all chose the explosive one. Why? Spielberg asked it was so over the top and unrealistic. Yeah but it was the type of ending we felt the movie needed. And what the mountain needs is a Cthulu type monstrosity towering over the city not some guy coming from the mountains in a hooded parka. Go Spielberg on us Toro not Shyamalan cute with the "twist" ending a lot of people are going to hate. I know I will.

  • July 30, 2010, 12:36 a.m. CST

    outf**ingstanding!

    by knifewyng

    I hope the vfx are more on the prosthetic and animatronic puppet side ala Rob bottin vs. CGI. Unless Weta is doing the CGI, then I don't care....the make CGI so seamless and are magnitudes ahead any vfx group here in the states. I hope the lovecraft monsters are purist, but I trust Del Toro...

  • July 30, 2010, 12:52 a.m. CST

    The book is suspence this is just gutteral blood and guts

    by TheJudger

    horror. I'm sorta pissed and had to obviously come back and talk shit. The city has little to no time in the film. It's like they couldnt figure out how to make it entertaining. They changed the ending. They tossed in a quick oh no your woman and baby died and I hide it from you scene to make a conflict with in the group. That leaves Dyer on the fucking boat while everyone else goes over the mountain- WTF!!!!. The Thing rip off shit is beyond acceptable. Is there no other way to make the Shoggoths scary- this tentical porn morph into it's prey is the only solve you guys could muster? Also that scen with the Shoggoth talking shit to it's victim- seriously... The more you show a creature like this the less effect it has over the audiance, and if you humanize it and let it yap the fuck out, well.... You know in the story the Elder Things killed off screen. Dyer and his group find the remains. The Shoggoths don't morph into People or dogs or keep them as hosts, and there is no saltwater kills them plot. All that reminds me of is the fire in JCTT, and Ice in the Blob. Everything in HP telling is suspence and mystery. This shit is all up in your face with lots of rip off shit from The Thing. Don't cite that the thing came from this so it's ok to play around with that plot playout. No this story didn't go there. John invented that host shit from his own mind. The Thing is inspired by a story inspired by this. This should try to rep the original source and not rip from The Thing. The Elders should be shadow creatures that no one see's alive, and really in the book we discover that the Elder things only killed the group to study and examine them and maybe pay respects to the other dead elders corpses by burying them in star shaped mounds. The Shoggoth never did anything to anyone. You only see one Shoggoth at the very end in the tunnel with the giant blind giant penguins. The horror of the story was not knowing what the fuck was going on. It wasn't a torrmenting monster story. This doesnt do that. It goes all Norris Thing right after someone decides to shoot on of the big penguin, which are introduced way to early in the film. That pissed me off as well. The build up to arriving at the mountains was cool. The party was split up the boat was icing over faster than normal, one dude gets his hand stuck on the railing of the boat because it ices over so quick. Everyone has a mysterious weeks worth of growth on their faces after waking up. We find out that time is not the same in this area, and that was a cool idea, 1 minutes is equal to an hour. The dog shedding it's fur anmd running away scared. Then being attacked by something that turns out to be a shoggoth that comes after the two men and showing it all, not fucking scary. You can still kill off the other group. Show nothing, right from this scene forward. have the other group go over the moutain with Dyer, and Danforth, and then end it like the fucking book did. Keep the monster under the crack in the closet, we see just enough to fuck with us but we never see it. I sporta wish it was no moster until the end, and then the group is attacked by a Shoggoth or several and they flee, only two of them make it out. Dyer and Danforth, and they hear something massive behind them Danforth goes ape shit Dyer can't help him since he has to fly up and over the wall of the mountain, when he does get over the wall Danforth color is gone he's dying. Dyers asks him what he saw Danforth refuses to tell him. <P> What ever this is right now. It's way more Thing than Mountains. Have we really become a simp mass of lets redo what we all loved so much because thinking is hard and shit. I seen this fucking movie in 1982. I know I'm in trouble for talking shit. I'm sorry!

  • July 30, 2010, 1:40 a.m. CST

    I cant think

    by MandrakeRoot

    of too many scripts that make it to the screen in first form. I'd recommend for folks to just relax until you actually see some footage, all we can really do is speculate. By all means, speculate away, but it's silly to lose faith in such a cool project. I'd like to think everyone would hope for the best. We all know that James Cameron is just flat out the fuckin man in every way possible. After a film career like his - and coming off the worlds biggest hit ever - he could be a Speilberg-esque brand name and produce utter shit (see: Transformers 1, 2), instead he takes on something like this, working with one of Hollywoods truly fine talents. Not many would do such a thing, although it was cool how Jackson fronted D9, although it's not exactly the same thing.

  • July 30, 2010, 7:45 a.m. CST

    You're correct about rewrites Mandrake

    by leo54304

    but this one needs major work. Biggest reason its not the mountains of madness in almost any way,shape or form. The shoggoths play too big a role, the city so important to pushing the idea of alien presence on earth is shortchanged, the ending, using elders as a shadowy presence missing, etc. Also the ending is going to go above the head of the average viewer. They'll be "huh?" and the chthulu fan will be pissed cuz we didn't get the ending we've been waiting to see on the screen since first reading the story. Hope this was a test script put out to gauge fan reaction and not the final one. Well, Toro here's my reaction: you got a lot of work to do.

  • July 30, 2010, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Le Vicious thanks again for getting us the script

    by leo54304

    But I think we have different views on the script. Still respect your opinion on the script and you personally.

  • July 30, 2010, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Elder Things seen inHB2?

    by leo54304

    Was looking up Mountains of Madness in wikipedia and in the film,theatrical adaptations sections mentioned they were seen in Hellboy 2. Anyone recall seeing them?

  • July 30, 2010, 8:29 a.m. CST

    can't. fucking. wait.

    by blunted666

  • July 30, 2010, 9:36 a.m. CST

    TheJudger & leo (SCRIPT SPOILERS ABOUND)

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    Thanks for sharing your opinions. It’s interesting to see how different they are from mine, but you both do have points that I agree with. <BR><BR> Firstly, a little background on me as an HPL reader: <BR><BR> Even though it didn’t occur until I was 16 or 17 years old (I’m almost 40 now), I’ve got to say that the worldview communicated via H.P. Lovecraft’s fiction as a whole influenced me more profoundly than any individual story or group of stories had before. Previously, my head was filled with religious—specifically Pentecostal Christian—nonsense. Lovecraft’s cosmic materialism—communicated via his tremendous, imaginative prose both in his fiction and his prodigious correspondence—was simply transformative to my teenage psyche and worldview. Here was a man who, while having all the other trappings of an extremely conservative (if eccentric) gentleman, had nothing but rational disdain for organized religion. <BR><BR> On to the script. Judger, you complained in detail about what appears to be one of your most bothersome gripes: that Lovecraft’s shoggoths shouldn’t have a THING-like ability to mimic. Of course, the root of this idea comes directly from HPL’s novella: the shoggoths are natural mimics and are able to form limbs and organs at will. We know they mimicked their masters’ art and voices, taking over the cavern city underneath Antarctica and creating a twisted imitation of the society of their masters. <BR><BR> Also note that Lovecraft’s work is chock full of the “waxen mask and robe that hides” motif – specifically, alien beings in the guise of human beings: see “The Whisperer in Darkness,” “The Thing on the Doorstep,” “Nyarlathotep.”<BR><BR> And speaking of Nyarlathotep, the “The Dark Man” is a brilliant nod to that entity—perhaps the ultimate symbol of a monster in the guise of a man. Take this quote for instance from the aforementioned HPL story, “The Whisperer in Darkness”:<BR><BR> “To Nyarlathotep, Mighty Messenger, must all things be told. And He shall put on the semblance of men, the waxen mask and the robe that hides, and come down from the world of Seven Suns to mock...” <BR><BR>It is this element (in large measure) which makes THE THING the most purely Lovecraftian film ever made. <BR><BR> Ok, now let’s look at the gripes about the script itself (i.e., the assertion that “it’s not [HPL’s] ATMOM in almost any way,shape or form.”<BR><BR> Let’s look at what the plots share in common:<BR><BR> 1. the expedition begins – check<BR> 2. The "corpses" of the Elder Things are found—check<BR> 3. Expedition member killed by the awakened Elder Things—check <BR> 4. Danforth flies to the camp and make their discovery—check (I agree that Dyer should go too)<BR> 5. Exploration of a mere fraction of the city—check (script arguably fleshes this part out visually and conceptually)<BR> 6. Ancient lives of the elder things explained in context and are identified as scientists—check<BR> 7. Humanity identified as originally created by elder thing scientists—check<BR> 8. Mad flight from mountains—check<BR> 9. True understanding of insignificance and ultimate doom of humankind—check<BR><BR> Like it or not, the script holds to the original story’s outline and is true to its ultimate point. It ain’t just blood and guts.<BR><BR> Judger, you complain about the addition of the pregnant wife, but I marvel that the script doesn’t include a woman onboard! Count your blessings. I wouldn’t be surprised if Universal forces there to be an active love story in the midst of the horror movie. Let’s hope not.<BR><BR> After sleeping on it, my main gripe with the script is that it indeed doesn’t have enough about/to do with the elder things. I simply want to see more film time with them and about them. I think Dyer’s (or in this case Lake’s) ultimate pity of them and identification with them is lost in all the shoggoth action: "…Scientists to the last - what had they done that we would not have done in their place? God, what intelligence and persistence! What a facing of the incredible, just as those carven kinsmen and forbears had faced things only a little less incredible! Radiates, vegetables, monstrosities, star spawn -whatever they had been, they were men!"<BR><BR>In spite of these qualms, though, I think Del Toro’s script draft is a magnificent success, and—for all the reasons posted above and in my “several” past posts—represents (by far) the best big-screen Lovecraft adaptation to date.

  • July 30, 2010, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Excellent post, excellent

    by leo54304

    When reviewing what you mentioned about Toro is trying to get across the points of mankind/elder connection, what they did with the corpses no different than what our scientists do are going to get missed by the most of the audience I feel. Either because it'll go over their heads or they'll be too focused on the shoggoth action. Less shoggoth and more city, elder presence and push the elder/human connection while exploring the city. And change the ending. Will not change my position even if Lexi Belle and Georgia Jones (look them up on the web) offer a weekend with them. That ending is one of the best in Cthulu mythos and shouldn't be changed on the big screen. Its one of the main reasons I want to see it, the moment when Danforth loses it and without it the movie is incomplete. Again incredible post.

  • July 30, 2010, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Dark Man would be perfect for Halloween release

    by leo54304

    Glad you mentioned it in your post

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  • July 30, 2010, 10:40 a.m. CST

    The shoggoths remind me of the movie "Phantoms"

    by leo54304

    starring Peter O'Toole. The baddies were these black oozing creatures that could shapeshift. Movie was ok as long as the shapeshifters remained a shadowy presence. Soon as you got full view the menace was gone. Hopefully Toro remembers the old adage less is more especially when it comes to something like this.

  • July 30, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Lovecraft bio on wikipedia worth reading

    by leo54304

  • July 30, 2010, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Arthur Machen was big influence on Lovecraft

    by leo54304

    Is credited for moving HP to the cthulu phase of his writing. A number of HPs cthulu stories are taken from similiar stories by Machen. Has his own interesting bio on wikipedia.

  • July 30, 2010, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Everybody listen to 2 Metallica songs . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    "The Thing That Should Not Be" off of 'Master of Puppets' and then "Call of Ktulu" off of 'Ride the Lightning.' Chills . . .

  • July 30, 2010, 12:50 p.m. CST

    If GDT does not include

    by bobbofatz

    the Cthulhu in the end there could be a backlash like the absent squid. Is there anyway to pronounce cthulhu when describing it to someone? Is it a word which must never be uttered?

  • July 30, 2010, 2:47 p.m. CST

    What Cthulhu Ending? (SPOILER ALERT)

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    In the novella, Danforth looks back and sees something which causes him to lose his sanity, but he never reveals what it was he saw. We do know it's something that the Elder Things themselves feared, but it's unlikely that the Thing (living or not) is Cthulhu. It is more likely--given that we are talking about the Plateau of Leng here--that Danforth saw some avatar of Nyarlathotep (e.g., the Black or Dark Man; the Haunter of the Dark; the High Priest Not to Be Described; etc). Perhaps Danforth saw Nyarlathotep in his uncloaked, sanity-blasting form.<BR><BR>That stated, I'd like Danforth to survive in the script as a raving lunatic just as in the novella. <BR><BR>And, of course--Cthulhu IS in, but if you know your Lovecraftian Mythos you know that Cthulhu is merely a high priest of the Big Bad Outer Gods (of which the Big N--i.e., the Dark Man--is one of the chief members).<BR><BR>Me, I love the ending of this script as it stands, which has a real PRINCE OF DARKNESS, surreal dread to it.

  • July 30, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Del Toro's Script Draft Still Available Here

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    http://tinyurl.com/2fsmn5j

  • July 30, 2010, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Madness beauty in its ending is also its madness

    by leo54304

    we don't know what he saw. And it still drives me crazy. HP never really let on in the story any of the possible suspects. That makes sense as the glyphs obviously wouldn't be that detailed to show such a monstrosity. Don't know if he ever talked about or wrote what it was Danforth saw. Going to reread script and see if my opinion changes.

  • July 30, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    leo

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    Thanks for the good thoughts and conversation, btw, leo. You have given me lots of food for thought.<BR><BR>HPL never revealed what Danforth saw, though a handful of authors have created fictional explanations (most recently in BEYOND THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS. There is speculation that it had something to do with Kadath in the Cold Waste (which is--of course--beyond the Plateau of Leng). <BR><BR>I know it would piss just about EVERYBODY in the audience off, but I'd be most happy with not seeing WHAT Danforth sees but only the results of the sight. As Peter Jackson might say, though, some things are allowed to be done on the page that can't be done on film (not in a blockbuster anyway).

  • July 30, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST

    One Minor Flaw that Needs Correction

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    Just occurred to me...<BR><BR>In HPL's ATMOM, he is scrupulous in his attention to the (southern hemisphere summer) sun never setting. The midnight sun is described as "low" but not gone--which is of course accurate. <BR><BR>The script, OTOH, has multiple NIGHT scenes. It's a pain for the filmmakers, but they're going to have to choose a night or day cycle (and--of course--the expedition would've chosen day). <BR><BR>Of course, because time is running so strangely for them, I suppose there could be day and night cycles, but this would be an element that would need to be explicitly pointed out via dialogue.<BR><BR>Just quibbles really. Easy to fix.

  • July 30, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Tail Ender Talk (SPOILERS)

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    You know, it strikes me: Danforth SHOULD survive as a madman. It should be he--not Dyer--that is locked up (by that point unable to speak except in a smattering of lucid moments and such). Dyer should be--as in the novella--trying to convince the scientific community (via Starkweather) of Antarctica's danger. He might still kill himself, of course. <BR><BR> It strikes me, in fact, that what Danforth saw was a VISION brought on by proximity to Kadath (and Nyarlathotep) much like Lake had in the script. Remember, Dyer reports that Danforth "has whispered disjointed and irresponsible things about 'The black pit,' 'the carven rim,' 'the protoShoggoths,' 'the windowless solids with five dimensions,' 'the nameless cylinder,' 'the elder Pharos,' 'Yog-Sothoth,' 'the primal white jelly,' 'the color out of space,' 'the wings,' the eyes in darkness,' the moon-ladder,' ;the original, the eternal, the undying,'"--most if not all of these things which have to do with the Nyarlathotep or his Outre compatriots. Could you imagine a visual cascade of these horrors brought on by proximity to "The Dark Man" or one of Its avatars. Oooh. Getting chills just thinking about it.

  • July 30, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Del Toro Script Link

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    http://tinyurl.com/2fsmn5j

  • July 30, 2010, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Better opinion 2d time around. Yeah!!

    by leo54304

    Didn't go in with opinion that the movie didn't have to treat the story as gospel and follow it blindly. Problem Watchman followed but won't go there. Movie covered the suspense and horror, naiviete of man and his place in the cosmos, science as a religion (See Lake), the last prayer scene really hit home about our religous belief and the shoggoth mockery of them, shotguns (In the CoC RPG campaigns I've been in, its the gun of choice) and just how alien a race can be (physiology, morales and archititecture). Toro did better job with pacing, cutting between scenes and camera shots then I thought before. Best of all it introduced public in a visually easy way the cthulu look with the city. Could go on but yes I think this is a fine interpetation of the mountains with some additional things thrown in. For some reason Toro focused on the "dark man". Don't know why. The saltwater thing maybe elders built city in arctic to contain shoggoths by surrounding them with saltwater. Good thing shoggoths can't metamorph into having wings!

  • July 30, 2010, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Dark Man maybe HPs subtle jab at boogy man?

    by leo54304

    Dark Man seemed to haunt dreams and appear as physical manifestion so a comparison to the childhood booyman not out of order. Maybe something shoggoths put in our DNA mix when elders not looking? Think Toro emphasized the Dark Man as HP had a period of writing focusing on the dream world which he then included in the cthulu phase. Also with Dark Man, maybe Toro put him in there to give people nightmares? Ever have that dream where its just you and something nasty face-to-face or chasing you? Dark Man falls into that category I think. Well, enough HP for awhile. Time for a beer. PS, I read story while at work doing OT. Scoreboard!! Stay thirsty my friends.

  • July 30, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Danforth s/h been survivor but it was Dyers tale

    by leo54304

    so he was the "lucky" survivor. Last, after Danforths death and he had shoggoth in him, Dyers held him. Why didn't shoggoth move to Dyer as physical contact is all thats needed. Dyer must have assumed Shoggoth was dead but...

  • July 30, 2010, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Script Logic:

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    salt blast enough to kill shoggoth--and cell partially full of salt water which would've finished the job after shot.<BR><BR>Still wish Danforth had survived to scream, "Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li!"<BR><BR>Script Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fsmn5j

  • July 30, 2010, 5:49 p.m. CST

    At least they put in the movie

    by leo54304

  • July 30, 2010, 5:59 p.m. CST

    A few late observations

    by The Bug-Eyed Baron

    Lots of great thoughts above, especially by Fishus. Excellent stuff, LVF! Here's my two cents: <br><br> There’s no denying the JC Thing influence, but I see many of those specific instances of Carpenterian imagery as more of an homage to a great movie, not so much as a rip-off. And Lovecraft himself always encouraged interested parties to freely borrow from his work, and he freely borrowed many things from others himself. ATMoM is a great story, but there are just aspects of it that are not conducive to film. The ending, for instance: how can we expect to film Danforth seeing whatever it is he sees on the plateau beyond the Mountains that sends him over the edge? I love suspense, and I agree that not revealing too much too soon is usually a good thing, but if the plot of the story were followed for a movie, not a lot would seem to happen. It would primarily be a mood & atmospheric piece, with horrors hinted at but seen only in glimpses. Not that that would be a bad thing, but as a big budget film, I don’t think it would be viable. Lovecraft himself wasn’t averse to action & gore. He may not have used it so much in his own stories, but he sure did love Bob Howard’s extremely violent and gory tales. <br><br> For my money, THE THING was one of the most Lovecraftian movies I have ever seen. JC freely admits to being influenced greatly by HPL’s themes, as is obvious by even a casual watch of any of the three films in his ‘Apocalypse Trilogy’. Lovecraft wrote often of beings from Outside who took on the form of men, or donned ‘the waxen mask that hides’. He also wrote of the metamorphic horrors like shoggoths and Tsathoggua’s Formless Spawn: beings that had no shape but could take on myriad shapes at will or need. Why then shouldn’t these two ideas be merged to their logical conclusion, the one reached both in this script and in JCTT? I have no doubt that JC was inspired to create the Thing’s loathsome looks from a surfeit of Lovecraftian monster descriptions. As for the shoggoths speaking and mimicking men: Shoggoths were said to be increasingly intelligent, and capable of speech with their makers. Why shouldn’t they be able to speak to and be scornful to humans? This is a very Lovecraftian idea, and quite unlike JCTT. As for why have the shogs morph into versions of their prey: they are intelligent, and do it to deceive and confuse. They do it to scare us all the more when they are revealed as Other. HPL wrote that even Alhazred considered shoggoths just about the most nightmarish things ever, and feverishly denied that they had ever been bred on earth. What’s so awful about them? They were just a big, bubbly, black, iridescent blob. Fearsome, to be sure, but not quite as awful sounding as the Mad Arab declared. Ah, but they can also change shape... <br><br> If the movie followed the story slavishly we would never get see a mobile Elder One--except possibly in flashback. We would only see a glimpse of a shoggoth in the tunnel—which some folks would probably say this film was ripping off from ItMoM, when the Old Ones are chasing Sam Neill down the tunnel. Wait! This movie must have stolen it’s TITLE from JC, too! To make a viable film, things need to change Especially if it’ll be big budget. Like it or not, people want to SEE monsters. This script delivers that and much more. While obviously not totally faithful in many ways to the source material, it IS faithful to the Lovecraftian themes of inescapable cosmic horror & human insignificance. It does convey the sheer damn antiquity and fabulous history Lovecraft presented in his tale.

  • July 30, 2010, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Camerons fingerprints all over this movie

    by leo54304

    and thats a good thing. **SPOILERS** Look at all the moments in the movie that occur or are similiar in "Aliens": Derelict ship comes out of nowhere and is boarded, lone survivor warns others of horror out there and ignored, individual worships science/corporate greed over life, symbiotic alien horde, desolate place, labryinthic outpost/city, lots of guns firing, first alien encounter majority are wiped out and survivors flee, heroic death using explosives, dissection, asshole scientist/corp suit gets close quarter death, alien queen or worshipped god, gotta blow this place up!! non-combatant learns to kill, Hicks like character, characters remain behind and stay in radio contact with expedition party, guy goes alone in tunnel/ or underwater to help free others. Will be it more action than you find in an HP story? Yeah but lets face it on a big budget for a questionably money maker, they had to keep the audience involved and on the edge of their seats. And I think the movie does this.

  • July 30, 2010, 6:05 p.m. CST

    What came first, the Shoggoth or the Thing?

    by The Bug-Eyed Baron

    How many ways are there to portray a being that is basically a cohesive mass of protoplasm capable of metamorphosing at will into any shape it desires or needs? To go a step further, assume that this being is considered to be among the most horrific and obscene creatures that ever were. Basically, such a being would have two states: <br><br> 1) Relaxed state- basically, this is a blob. It creeps, it seeps, it glides, it slides under the door, across the floor, etc. It’s nasty, it likely smells awful, and it can engulf you or grab you with basic pseudopods. Really, this is a very limited form. <br><br> 2) Metamorphosed, partially or fully- this is any and everything else. It could extrude limbs and/or sensory organs of any sort from its gelatinous bulk. It could transform fully into almost any body shape, for an indefinite span of time. Combined with a talent for mimicry and a vicious bent, this ability has limitless potential. <br><br> So, if this script portrays shoggoths as talented albeit horrifying shapeshifters it is accused of simply aping JCTT. If shoggoths were only shown as the basic blob, the script would be likely disparaged as using outdated, old hat horror tropes.

  • July 30, 2010, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Shoggoths would have to be metamorphs

    by leo54304

    I think for a few reasons. Had to do all the labor of building a city so it had to some basic intelligence and shapeshifting ability. And that intelligence lead them to revolting against their masters. Question I have is if elders created them, why are they worshippers of soemthing else? Only thing I can think of is they were contacted the big evil and granted higher intelligence in exchange for worshipping big evil. Way of making contact with shoggoths? Dreams. HP was big on dreams and this movie includes a dream sequence where a character is visited by the dark man. Dark man is sloggoth communed mind?

  • July 30, 2010, 6:38 p.m. CST

    meta-shogs

    by The Bug-Eyed Baron

    Aside from appearing in ItMoM, HPL uses shogs in "The Shadow Over Innsmouth". In that story, they serve the Deep Ones, and by extension could be said therefore to loosely serve Cthulhu. <br><br> I don't have a problem with them being servitors of a Great Old One in this adaptation. If the Big C feels similarly about them as he does about his human would-be servants, they aren't going to derive many benefits from this association! <br><br> Good thought on the nature of the Dark Man, Leo! I don't doubt this apparition is based on Nyarlathotep, but it certainly could be percieved by the shogs as a collective intellect projection. In fact, Brian Lumley used Nyarlathotep in a similar fashion in his silly Titus Crow stories, if I recall properly.

  • July 30, 2010, 8:09 p.m. CST

    And honestly

    by MandrakeRoot

    The Thing came out almost 30 years ago. We could really use another movie of that quality, similar or not. I don't care if this movie resembles The Thing as long as it's resembles it in quality. I swear people, get out of the past, don't you want new films to be good too?

  • July 30, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Great Posts, BoB!

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    "Do I hear the Baron?"<BR><BR>Del Toro should hire you as a consultant. Seriously. I wish. <BR><BR>More tomorrow.

  • July 30, 2010, 10:06 p.m. CST

    MandrakeRoot

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    Think the objects of your frustration are gone, man. Just us true believers left.

  • Aug. 2, 2010, 1:11 p.m. CST

    AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS Script

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    Last known del Toro/Robbins script draft of ATMOM here: http://tinyurl.com/2fsmn5j

  • Aug. 2, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Read some of the script

    by Eliywahoo

    Too much dialogue, needs more silence and visuals to do the talking.

  • Aug. 3, 2010, 4:54 p.m. CST

    script thoughts (spoilers)

    by cyberskunk

    Personal opinion, subjective etc... I did not like all the Thinginess. I didn't want shoggoths that could look like human beings. I saw an homage scene in the script with the salt-eating. Minor note: The script has a monster saying mankind was created by them and there's no God to help them out. But then the last part of the script has a quote from Revelations to match the event at the movie's end and make it seem like an end of days thing, but then that's suggesting the Christian Bible is prophetic, so the movie seems to be altering the value of the book at different points. Unless the idea is to say that the Revelations quote was accurate but a coincidence. I don't really care about that part as much as I care about the shoggoths as people part, as it's such a departure from the story, for me.

  • Aug. 4, 2010, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Script issues - spoilers

    by TV's Frank

    They need to scale the whole Shoggoth thing way, way back from what they have in this version of the script. The Elder Things need to be the main antagonists here for most of the movie. That way, we can be horrified all over again when we find out that there is something even more terrible than they are (i.e. the Shoggoths) near the end, when learn of their existence and see ONE of them (not morphing into humans like the damn T1000). And then, at the very end, we find out that beyond the mountains there is something even more terrifying than the shoggoths, something that is in fact so unspeakably horrible that we aren't even allowed to know what it is (not "the future," either). This movie should be all about slow-building psychological terror, not this action/gore-fest that we are seeing in this script. The first half is very well done, I think, but once the shoggoths show up (way, way too soon) it all goest to hell. Also, why is Cthulhu in this? The Elder Things had past wars with the Cthulhu spawn, I think, but those are long since over by the time of this story, and I don't think they (or the shoggoths) ever had anything to do with Cthulhu himself. Take him out, please.

  • Aug. 4, 2010, 12:02 p.m. CST

    TV's Frank

    by cyberskunk

    I agree with everything you wrote.

  • Aug. 4, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST

    cyberskunk

    by TV's Frank

    Cool. I liked your post also. Let's hope they majorly overhaul this script in the rewrite that Del Toro and Robbins are apparently working on. Otherwise I think they could be screwing up a potentially great movie. Key word: Restraint.

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

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  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:27 a.m. CST

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  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:28 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

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  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:29 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

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  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:29 a.m. CST

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  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:30 a.m. CST

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  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

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  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

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  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:35 a.m. CST

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  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:36 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

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  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:37 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

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  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:39 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

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  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:40 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;_&nbsp;&nbsp;\<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(-----|&nbsp;&nbsp;|----`/&nbsp;&nbsp;^&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;|_)&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/&nbsp;&nbsp;/_\&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;.-----)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/&nbsp;&nbsp;_____&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;|\&nbsp;&nbsp;\-------.<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|________/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|__|&nbsp;&nbsp;/__/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\__\|&nbsp;_|&nbsp;`.________|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;____&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;__&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;____&nbsp;&nbsp;___&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;.______&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;________.<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;/&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/&nbsp;/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;_&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/&nbsp;/&nbsp;&nbsp;^&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;|_)&nbsp;&nbsp;||&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(-----`<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/&nbsp;/&nbsp;&nbsp;/_\&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/&nbsp;/&nbsp;&nbsp;_____&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;|\&nbsp;&nbsp;\---)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\__/&nbsp;&nbsp;\__/&nbsp;/__/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\__\|__|&nbsp;`._______/

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:41 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; _&nbsp; &nbsp; \<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (-----|&nbsp; &nbsp; |----`/&nbsp; &nbsp; ^&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; |_)&nbsp; &nbsp; |<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; /_\&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; .-----)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; _____&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; |\&nbsp; &nbsp; \-------.<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |________/&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |__|&nbsp; &nbsp; /__/&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \__\|&nbsp; _|&nbsp; `.________|<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ____&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; __&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ____&nbsp; &nbsp; ___&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; .______&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ________.<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; _&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \/&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \/&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; ^&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; |_)&nbsp; &nbsp; ||&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (-----`<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; /_\&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /\&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; _____&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; |\&nbsp; &nbsp; \---)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \__/&nbsp; &nbsp; \__/&nbsp; /__/&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \__\|__|&nbsp; `._______/

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:43 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    ________________. ___ .______ <BR> / | / \ | _ \ <BR> | (-----| |----`/ ^ \ | |_) | <BR> \ \ | | / /_\ \ | / <BR> .-----) | | | / _____ \ | |\ \-------. <BR> |________/ |__| /__/ \__\| _| `.________| <BR> ____ __ ____ ___ .______ ________. <BR> \ \ / \ / / / \ | _ \ / | <BR> \ \/ \/ / / ^ \ | |_) || (-----` <BR> \ / / /_\ \ | / \ \ <BR> \ /\ / / _____ \ | |\ \---) | <BR> \__/ \__/ /__/ \__\|__| `._______/ <BR> <BR>

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:43 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ________________.&nbsp; &nbsp; ___&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; .______&nbsp; &nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; _&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (-----|&nbsp; &nbsp; |----`/&nbsp; &nbsp; ^&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; |_)&nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; /_\&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; .-----)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; _____&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; |\&nbsp; &nbsp; \-------.&nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |________/&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |__|&nbsp; &nbsp; /__/&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \__\|&nbsp; _|&nbsp; `.________|&nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ____&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; __&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ____&nbsp; &nbsp; ___&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; .______&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ________.&nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; _&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \/&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \/&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; ^&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; |_)&nbsp; &nbsp; ||&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (-----`&nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; /_\&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /\&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; _____&nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; |\&nbsp; &nbsp; \---)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \__/&nbsp; &nbsp; \__/&nbsp; /__/&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \__\|__|&nbsp; `._______/&nbsp; <BR> <BR>

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:45 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ________________. &nbsp; &nbsp; ___ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; .______ &nbsp; &nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; _ &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (-----| &nbsp; &nbsp; |----`/ &nbsp; &nbsp; ^ &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; |_) &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; /_\ &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; .-----) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; _____ &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; |\ &nbsp; &nbsp; \-------. &nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |________/ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |__| &nbsp; &nbsp; /__/ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \__\| &nbsp; _| &nbsp; `.________| &nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ____ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; __ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ____ &nbsp; &nbsp; ___ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; .______ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ________. &nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; _ &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \/ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \/ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; ^ &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; |_) &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (-----` &nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; /_\ &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /\ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; _____ &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; |\ &nbsp; &nbsp; \---) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; <BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \__/ &nbsp; &nbsp; \__/ &nbsp; /__/ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \__\|__| &nbsp; `._______/ &nbsp; <BR> <BR>

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ||| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ||| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; __ &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; | |-|_____-----/ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |_| &nbsp; &nbsp; |_| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \-----_____|-| |_|_________{ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; }| &nbsp; &nbsp; (^) &nbsp; |{ &nbsp; &nbsp; }__________|_| &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |_| &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ^ &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; |_| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \| &nbsp; &nbsp; /\ &nbsp; &nbsp; |/ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; |--| &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; = &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; |__| &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = &nbsp; + &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; + &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \/

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:48 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ||| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |||<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; __ &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; |<BR> |-|_____-----/ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |_| &nbsp; &nbsp; |_| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \-----_____|-|<BR> |_|_________{ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; }| &nbsp; &nbsp; (^) &nbsp; |{ &nbsp; &nbsp; }__________|_|<BR> &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |_| &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ^ &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; |_| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ||<BR> &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \| &nbsp; &nbsp; /\ &nbsp; &nbsp; |/ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<BR> &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; |--| &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<BR> &nbsp; = &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; |__| &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =<BR> &nbsp; + &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; / &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \/<BR>

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:49 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |||&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |||<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; __&nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; |<BR> |-|_____-----/&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |_|&nbsp; &nbsp; |_|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \-----_____|-|<BR> |_|_________{&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; }|&nbsp; &nbsp; (^)&nbsp; |{&nbsp; &nbsp; }__________|_|<BR> &nbsp; ||&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |_|&nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ^&nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; |_|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ||<BR> &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \|&nbsp; &nbsp; /\&nbsp; &nbsp; |/&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<BR> &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; |--|&nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<BR> &nbsp; =&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; |__|&nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =<BR> &nbsp; +&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \&nbsp; &nbsp; /<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \/<BR>

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:53 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <^>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ||===I||(-@-)||I===||<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \_/ |<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<BR> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:55 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<^>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;||===I||(-@-)||I===||<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\_/|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 11:58 a.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp |||&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp||| <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp |&nbsp |&nbsp __ &nbsp |&nbsp |<BR>

  • Sept. 9, 2010, noon CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    |'-.--._ _________:<BR> | / | __ __\<BR> | | _ | [\_\= [\_\<BR> | |.' '. \.........|<BR> | ( <) ||: :|_<BR> \ '._.' | :.....: |_(o<BR> '-\_ \ .------./<BR> _ \ ||.---.|| _<BR> / \ '-._|/\n~~\n' | \<BR> (| []=.--[===[()]===[) |<BR> <\_/ \_______/ _.' /_/<BR> /// (_/_/<BR> |\\ [\\<BR> ||:| | I|<BR> |::| | I|<BR> ||:| | I|<BR> ||:| : \:<BR> |\:| \I|<BR> :/\: ([])<BR> ([]) [|<BR> || |\_<BR> _/_\_ [ -'-.__<BR> snd <] \> \_____.><BR> \__/

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 12:01 p.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|'-.--._&nbsp;_________:<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;__&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;__\<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;_&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;[\_\=&nbsp;[\_\<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;|.'&nbsp;'.&nbsp;\.........|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;(&nbsp;<)&nbsp;&nbsp;||:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;:|_<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;'._.'&nbsp;|&nbsp;:.....:&nbsp;|_(o<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;'-\_&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;.------./<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;_&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;||.---.||&nbsp;&nbsp;_<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/&nbsp;\&nbsp;&nbsp;'-._|/\n~~\n'&nbsp;|&nbsp;\<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(|&nbsp;[]=.--[===[()]===[)&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\_/&nbsp;&nbsp;\_______/&nbsp;_.'&nbsp;/_/<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;///&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(_/_/<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|\\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[\\<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;||:|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;I|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|::|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;I|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;||:|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;I|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;||:|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;:&nbsp;\:<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|\:|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\I|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;:/\:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;([])<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;([])&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;||&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|\_<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;_/_\_&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[&nbsp;-'-.__<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;snd&nbsp;<]&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\_____.><BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\__/

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 12:03 p.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<^>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;||===I||(-@-)||I===||<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\_/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|<BR>

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 12:06 p.m. CST

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp|&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp|&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp|&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<^>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp||===I||(-@-)||I===|| &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\_/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp|&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp| &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp| &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp|