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Zack Snyder Is A Madman!! Behold Whatever The Hell This Awesome SUCKER PUNCH Trailer Is Showing Us!!
Merrick here...
A teaser for Zack Snyder's SUCKER PUNCH has gone online over at Apple, in all kinds of Glorious QuickTime.
I don't know what the fuck I just saw but its got guns, swords, something in space, leather girls in trench warfare, musical numbers, battle mech, a Nazi blimp, a dragon, amazing design, fantastic photography and I'm already there.
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another comic book adaptation?
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Oh, wait . . . I mean, . . . uh, it looks underwhelming, like a video game, uninspired, Sky Captain meets Charlie's Angels, horrible, how can anyone like this, only The Dark Knight is good, etc. etc.
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Movie looks like it could be terrible BUT the fact that Zack Snyder was able to drum up studio money to make a movie about Emily Browning, Vanessa Hudgens, and Jena Malone as institutionalized goth chicks in burlesque outfits...that must qualify him as some kind of mad genius. It also puts my ass in the seat for sure.
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be an in-between on this one. It's gonna be love it or hate it, it's gonna be incomprehensible crap or awesome.
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I think the German images (including the blimp, bi-planes and trench warfare) is all WWI era and hence pre-Nazi.
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Seriously, Hollywood, this shit has to stop.
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..That movie is either going to be completely insanely awesome, or absolute nonsense. In other news, people who come to AICN and complain about movies based on Comic book/graphic novel properties are twats.
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..beat me to it.
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Jul 26, 2010 10:12:04 PM CDT
did you guys see that samurai with a mini gun ?!
by t 1000 xp professional
haha that's ridiculously amazing! I hope this is good.
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On the money about the color pallette.
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for once, it's not--it's straight from Snyder's head this time around.
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do people not do research this is an original story by Snyder
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where Emily Browning runs the cash register, I'm the only customer, and she gives me BJs in the dressing room.
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Jul 26, 2010 10:14:07 PM CDT
I also believe it's not a remake/reboot/adaptation/reimagining
by t 1000 xp professional
I'll take it.
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Looks awesome.
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Any one frame from that trailer looks better than 90% of all other comic book movies.
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a samurai with a mini-gun...
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a transformers sized samurai with a machine gun!!!!
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I'll use Youtube.
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There were what...at least 6,000 cell phones in the Hall and NOBODY got any bootleg footage from the Cap and Thor panels? What the hell fanboys????
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looks fucking crazy! I now want to see this.
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I have no want to load the Apple Virus onto my system.
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Jul 26, 2010 10:29:08 PM CDT
Sorry but the Japanese do movies like this all the time!
by hollywoodhellraiser
When you see a chick who tits are a drill than this stuff pales in comparison!
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i like how all the nerds complain about cgi jeff bridges in a fucking classy movie like tron with very original look/feel to it- yet this has retards excited cuz theres got girls swords and samurais with machine guns and dragons.
this movie panders to evry trenchcoat wearing fat ass in a comic book shop. uber garbage with bad late 90's techno. fuck this shit in every way possible. i couldnt be more annoyed with this trailer and the morons into it. why do mvies look so goddamn fake, this shitty sepia toned blue screen garbage, the days of blade runner really do seem over. -
and a Zeppelin. And a fucking dragon. Any nerd with a pulse should be jizzing in their pants right now.
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/07/sucker-punch-trailer-the-most- audacious-movie-at-comiccon.html
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Okay, so they send these girls into an asylum, and use hypnosis/video games/awesome hallucinogens to help them become sane by "slaying their dragons," and fighting their fears. They have to fight their way through all this to become "sane" and "escape." All in all, I dig it. I don't even mind slightly wonky CGI if it's SUPPOSED to look like a video game.
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I don't know what the hell it is that I just watched, but I liked it!
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And if that's NOT what it's about, I want to make that movie. Actually, someone who already makes good movies, steal my idea and throw some cash my way.
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successfully out-awesomed the Machete trailer? It is a close call
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After lurking here for years, i just registered to point out that the soundtrack is Lords of Acid, The Crablouse. Which is amazing! :D
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But he never achieve such greatness!!
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Then the world would make sense...
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Holy shit! Looks like the dirty old man in me was right about her future after seeing her in Lemony Snicket...
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blade runner is a single movie. A movie that was surrounded by much more "inferior movies: (which some were entertaining) ... You just got Inception by a man who adores Blade Runner and now it's time for more voices to be heard and some of them just want to say something a little less thought provoking but entertaining in it's own right.... By the way Tron hasn't come out yet, so you don't know just how classy it is.
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The 1080p .MOV's at that site are great quality, and you don't have to install quicktime to load it. I watch it fine through Media Player Classic x64. Apple.com's 1080p trailers look great
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Just like I knew she would after seeing her in A Series of Unfortunate Events.
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First time for that. Very cool.
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The production details we know so far have been nothing but. And that wonderful trailer...
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For two different movies. Has that happened before with anyone else?
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Because i dont know what hit me...but i like it!
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COMES A MOVIE NOT ABOUT FUCKING OWLS, DON'T WORRY.
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He's not much of a narrative force though. Great eye candy, but that's about it. The man hasn't shown much soul in anything so far.
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...gauzy cinematography. Looks like a cross between KILL BILL, SIN CITY, and a dozen anime flicks. Not to mention the fact that the oh-so-meh dragon reeks of BEOWULF and seems like a lame attempt to steal THE HOBBIT's Smaug-thunder.*** Meh-Troll Grenade has been thrown! ***My work here is done.
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Who's to say that's a bad thing? It's his niche and he's damn good at it.
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in the back lots of Time Warner. Is that too crass of a statement?
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and isn't SUPER JAZZED by that bit of geeky bad-assery needs to leave. And never come back. Really. There's DRAGONS and MACHINE-GUNNING ROBO-SAMURAIS and BEAUTIFUL WOMEN and CARLA GUGINO (who gets her own specific mention) and GUNS and BURLESQUE and MENTAL ILLNESS. It's like a geekasm for your brain-stuff.
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Shit, It came out a week after fucking ET did.
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Jul 26, 2010 10:59:55 PM CDT
I just don't get it. I've lost touch with the geek community.
by juansanchez
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http://tiny.cc/0e6bn
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Trailer is intriguing. They have nearly a year to clean up the special effects.
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Something awesome enough to counter the sheer queerery of Scott Pilgrim and Thor news!
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Looks like some crazy, trashy fun.
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So it must suck.
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Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow thing, with eye candy and dragons and Swords and Samurai's with mini guns....... cOULD BE aWESOME Or, It could be a boring ass piece -O- Shyte
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Snyder should have been in charge of Transformers and a superhero movie or two
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What the Hell George? Really? Sounds like an Aintitool user name ta me
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With a healthy dose of Resident Evil thrown in. Will it be a 3D conversion?
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except much of it looks like a video game...I like Snyder but will wait for the Tomatometer.
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It's gonna be fun playing again!
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search for this on youtube and it is there in hd or close
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"No sir! I didn't see you playing with your dolls again sir!"
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What kind of fool says that?! Youtube has NOTHING on Quicktime.
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to say no to 3D conversion he has nearly a year to convert but still said no
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To rely on tomatometer is pretty ridiculous. I hope you are being sarcastic.
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Jul 26, 2010 11:25:17 PM CDT
If you don't admit that that looks awesome, you're an asshole!
by fuzzy_dunlop
In the voice of Louis CK.
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"Xtreme Bimbo G.I. Joe Dungeons & Dragons" look makes me think no.To everyone saying they are jizzing their pants and "you're an asshole if you don't admit this is awesome": I won't hate on this, I like Zack Snyder's eye even if he belongs in the guilty pleasure box, but all I could think of with the super slo-mo shot of the warrior versus giant mini-gun samurai was two terrible movies: (1) ALEXANDER, when he faces off against the elephant at the end, and (2) whatever the next RESIDENT EVIL movie is -- the trailer is just 120 seconds of mindless over-stylized Matrix rip-off action. If you give in to this crap they lose any incentive to make cerebral movies.
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to slowly scroll through the trailer in QuickTime and look at all the individual shots. There's a lot to look at. Hopefully it's narratively coherent enough to be better than a grab-bag of geek-fueled ideas strung together. Snyder himself said in a recent interview that he basically threw in every cool idea/visual he could come up with. Anyway, Emily Browning seems to have been given a workout filming this movie. There are about a dozen shots in that trailer with her kicking one of her legs up as far as it can go. The movie won't be giving you geeks any more than school-girl outfit tease shots, yet I suppose that's a few months' worth of fapping material for the average geek.
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This looks 100 times more original than the next Resident Evil movie, which is so OBVIOUSLY a rip off of the Matrix series that I begin to wonder if the filmmakers actually approached the material as a parody of the films. Its so fucking shameful but they act as if they have no shame in stealing even the exact same shots from the Wachowskis. Fuck PW Anderson. Snyder has much more talent than that fucking hack.
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Its ORIGINAL and the studio let a filmmaker make a movie based off his own idea, and in this day and age, we should be happy about that regardless of the outcome.
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I haven't watched the trailer. But I'm fucking sick of dreamworlds. Almost every goddamn movie I see has some questionable element of reality to it, where you're just as likely watching the events of a character's imagination. I'm fucking sick of it bitch!
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Seriously, I need that. Like, right now.
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That is all.
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I agree 100% with misterfurly, he nailed it.
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regardless of what anyone thinks of his movies, I have a lot of respect for him. He knows his strengths, and he hasn't made a movie yet that showed evidence of him completing whoring himself out to the Hollywood machine. Like Nolan, he has been able to make movies that are rather ambitious and are not guaranteed box office hits, yet he obviously puts a lot of thought into each one. He hasn't slept at the wheel for an easy paycheck yet. If this movie had instead been the latest Resident Evil movie (based on its Matrix trailer), right now would be the time to worry. I'll give Snyder a shot, even if I'm more of a film geek than a geek geek.
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Isn't this almost the same plot as Pan's Labrynth, only an "action" version? It looks just like Casshern. Either way, I've had my fill of wannabe tough-chick movies. I really liked Watchmen but this looks pretty corny.
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Isn't this almost the same plot as Pan's Labrynth, only an "action" version? It looks just like Casshern. Either way, I've had my fill of wannabe tough-chick movies. I really liked Watchmen but this looks pretty corny.
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It does look awesome.
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this is as good as Speed Racer. Y'know, the movie that was just what a live-action Speed Racer SHOULD have been. I'll never understand the undeserved hate Speed Racer got from so many here. I adore that movie. So much fun! And Christina Ricci has never been as cutie-pie sexy as she was in that film. "Were those ninjas?"
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Its not a remake. Its not a sequel. Its not a feature version of an old tv show. Its not a studio hired job. Its his own idea, which yes might be a hodgepodge of other original ideas thrown together in a soup and might not be very good, BUT... you HAVE to appreciate the fact that a studio told a filmmaker "yes, we will stand behind your OWN idea" rather than give the money to another piece of shit film that fits the above criteria.
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Is the fact that the antagonist is a female and the idea that the "fantasy" elements might be in the girl's head. Its a *very* weak argument.
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The lead chick is a troll, Jena Malone is kinda homely & vanessa hudgens?! Abbie Cornish will be the only thing to save this movie for me. It woulda been awesome if Amanda Seyfreid, Emma Stone & Evan Rachel Wood had stayed in the project. Now those are some babes I can get behind. Now I'm barely interested.
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Hope all the cool scenes he imagined as a film school grad all cramed into one flick will be fun.
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Sorry NYC, you've lost some credibility there.
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Yeah, I get what you're saying. I do appreciate the fact Snyder got to do what he wanted. My problem is that it looks like it came five years too late and thus comes across as corny to me. I don't know. Maybe I'm just being cynical.
As far as the Pan's Labrynth comparison...I'm sticking to my guns on that one. Just throw a few action scenes in PL and you'll have essentially the same movie. Or even Where The Wild Things Are...make the monsters actual monsters and there you go. I'm not saying he "ripped them off", I'm just saying Suckerpunch looks like a different version of those two movies. -
Someone actually said that with a straight case and expected to be taken seriously????
What say you post a photo of your girlfriend and see if we can judge where you're coming from.
Oh wait, that's right, you probably don't have a girlfriend, now do you?
Ass.
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and except for gugino (who has the most luscious boobage in all of hollywood)snyders wife was the hottest chick on the panel...what a lucky guyand does snyder now officially own march for all movie releases?this is gonna be a straight eye candy movie...just like 300...which is what zack is good at and should stick with
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I wouldn't say this film is like those two in that respect so much as that they're all part of a new sub-genre, and its that of the fantastical imagined reality in which the main character escapes in to. Most comparisons I've read thus far have been to Alice in Wonderland. And at least with Pan's Labyrinth (well, with Alice too), I'd argue that there's still a strong possibility that the fantasy was real, and to me, that's indicative of the best kind of story, the kind where there is no definitive "It was all in her head!" or "It was really real!" conclusion. Maybe its 5 years too late, but I'm still very happy to see an original idea come to fruition. I'm glad some producers are willing to take a chance rather than take the chicken shit way out and greenlight another adaptation of proven material.
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Is there such a thing as too much nerd stimulation?
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The guy just doesn't do it for me. He is better then a lot of the turd filmmakers but still, I always feel he is trying to convince me that he is a visionary...of which he is not. Snyder's films have so very little subtlety to them, as much subtlety as a hammer cracking you in the face...which makes his films feel flat out dumb (SEE: Every film he has ever made). ALL STYLE with very little substance. Even with Watchmen, the guy made it feel obvious and like it had very little to say... how is that even friggin possible! - the greatest example of where the story was the glory elevated by the visuals was interpreted by Snyder to be a boring story...CRAP!
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...this is going to bomb.
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and never look back.
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I'm gay you fucking nerd, so I have no interest in "getting with" her. Why does every geek get so mad when someone dares insult a girl that would most likely never give them the time of day? It's called an opinion, dickhead. And for the record, my 'case' is very straight.
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is the use of gray tones. Try again.
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..you have to admit he was right about at least one thing: You don't have a girlfriend. ; )
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To all the fuck-mooks who are saying "fuck quicktime!", and "I don't want the APPLE VIRUS on my computer!"... What the FUCK?! What kind of computers do you boneheads own? What are you running... a fucking "486" or some shit?! With like 2 megs of RAM?? lol Quicktime is fucking CLASS. Nothing else like it. If you have a kick-ass computer, than you cannot help but appreciate the quality of quicktime... Fuckin' "Youtube" it? LMFAO
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Emily Browning isn't THAT hot... c'mon guys. Unless you dig that underdeveloped/pre-pubescent/little-girl-body thing... And her face really isn't all that great either. It's the shape of her eyes. She looks constantly sad. Now Vanessa Hudgens on the other hand... Yowza!! Fuck, i love the latinas ;-)
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Jul 27, 2010 1:34:12 AM CDT
Now as far as the TRAILER goes...
by that_girl_from_the_lowes_commercials_gar
I'm kinda mixed on it. I admire the sheer audacity of it all. All the crazy imagery and concepts and all that... but i cannot really fathom how it's all going to come together to form a strong, coherent whole. It also has that "too clean" feel to the images. Fuckin' CGI... Everything looks so fucking BRIGHT and CLEAN. Ugh... but i guess that's the way films are going to be shot from now on, so i'll just have to get used to it i suppose... But yeah, I'm worried this is gonna end up being like Southland Tales. Remember that garbage? Awesome trailer... unimaginably AWFUL film. Please don't let this be another Southland Tales... C'mon Zack! Also looking forward to "That owl movie". Fuckin' Barn Owls RULE.
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...poor fella was damned if he did, damned if he didn't. With this, no-one gives a fuck. Some beautiful shots in there - I could hang em on the wall no problem.
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I want that much-talked-about shot of the GIANT MECH SAMURAI WITH MINI GUN as my fuckin destop wallpaper lol Make it happen!
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I agree that some people choosing YouTube over QuickTime is a huge mistake. Almost as huge as the Lowe's girl's forehead: http://shegivesmorehead.ytmnd.com/
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Totally agree with you on Speed Racer. I never watched the damn cartoon, hated the trailer, and i expected to walk out of it 10 minutes in... and, to my suprise, i had a fuckin' blast. I couldn't believe it! Definitely one of the most underrated/misunderstood/unfairly maligned films since Alien 3. Fuckin' FANBOYS...
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Jul 27, 2010 1:46:28 AM CDT
I've had enough of trailers telling me I need to prepare!!!
by anything but tangerines
Fuck that shit! I pay the box office, I maybe buy some shit, walk into the theater and sit my ass down... What the FUCK kind of preparation do I need?!?! And Don't say "H"- This isn't a Peter Jackson flick!
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Fuckin' AWESOME ;-)
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I'll check it out.
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You know, the ones that trash 300 over and over? Where are they?
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Who let the crazies in?!? SCARLETT'S BREAST MILK... you sir, are a fuckin ASSHAT. What fucking "viruses" are you babbling on about, in your schizophrenic rant? Please... do tell. And what do you have against Apple? Did they sodomize and rape your mother or something? Fuckin' conspiracy-theorist wack-job...
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Watching it on youtube isn't HIGH-DEF. I hope you realize that, you mongloid. Even when it says "High-def"... it fucking ISN'T! So to those who care about picture QUALITY, and SOUND quality... please, do yourself a favor, and use QUICKTIME :-)
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All these idiots, like SCARLETT, who come on here and talk about these imaginary issues that quicktime causes... like crashing, and viruses, and multiple windows, etc... Fuckin AMATEUR!
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...are you getting thise "installing I-tunes" bullshit?!? Do you know how to use a fucking computer you fucking primate??? lol
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When IDIOTS come on here to post, screaming and using ALL CAPS, bitching about the fact that they don't know how to use a computer?!? 'Cause I SURE FUCKING DO!!
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A real winner this one is... Hey, DUDE. Did you forget your VALIUM/ZANAX/ZOLOFT medicinal cocktail this morning again? You know how you get when you don't take your pills...
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Unless you have a piece of shit computer, it loads right up. GEE that's hard!
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but i'm picturing this "SCARLETT" guy like a... Zach Galifianakis looking motherfucker, wearing a "Cowboy Beebop" shirt, drinking straight out of a 2-liter of mountain dew red, bangin' away at his keyboard all angrily and whatnot... lol
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you did make me chuckle a bit lol I'm gonna go get started on that hammering nails with my forehead now...
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Jul 27, 2010 2:14:40 AM CDT
RPLOCKE can even do it SCARLETT!
by that_girl_from_the_lowes_commercials_gar
If HE can do it... Anyone can ;-)
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Jul 27, 2010 2:16:30 AM CDT
Merrick, did you edit the Wikipedia page for Sucker Punch?
by pingpongbomb
Which, for a brief moment, read: "Sucker Punch participated in the Comic-Con 2010 and showed the first footage of the film. The trailer was released on Monday July 26 on Apple Trailers, at which point the entire human species started simultaneously lactating glee."
It doesn't matter who wrote it really, I live for those brief moments where I can read such things on Wikipedia. -
Just sad this won't be a hard NC-17. I love Malone and Browning. Next up on the future hottie express is the little girl from Burton's Wonka film: AnnaSophia Robb
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Anyone who was in Hall H can tell you that the audience was not anywhere near as pumped for this as they were for 300 or Watchmen (which, it is well-known in the fanboy community, was a complete fuck-up). There was a definite wariness in the audience. There was one point in the panel where Zack, I swear to god, said something like "Sometimes I get shit for being TOO faithful to the source material." I wanted to hit him in the head with a Louisville. That motherfucker butchered Watchmen and Suckerpunch looks like a massive ADD diarreah pile. Anyone who watches that trailer and says "Cool!" is either 12 years old or a virgin. Fuck this retarded shit.
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she makes me want to go back to high school...oh, and I will definitely see this movie.
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...so how do you feel about the current administration? I'm sure you have no opinion on politics, right?
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Is a dipshit. It's clear as day, douchebags.
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giggled and babbled like an idiot. I'd rather curb-stomp her annoying ass than think about her in a sexual way for a nanosecond.
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WOOOOOOOORD. So am i a dirty perv for wackin' it to those leaked nude pics of Vanessa Hudgens? When she was like 15/16 years old? Does the fact that i was not aware that she was underage at the time count for anything? Am i lying about that last part about not knowing she was underage? Hhhmmmm.... ;-)
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Massive Fail... MASSIVE. FAIL.
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Go for it Zack Snyder.
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so who do you think is hot these days? I bet you're drooling over Emily Browning, and perhaps even Mary Elizabeth Winstead, or whatever the fuck her name is from Scott Pilgrim... talk about "meh" lol
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"To take away the virginity (of a woman)."
Also:
"To deprive of virginity, esp by rupturing the hymen through sexual intercourse."
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"to deprive (a woman) of virginity."
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Tina Fey FTW, adolescent bitches.
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my bisexual wife. Yeah. She's pretty hot. Enjoy your hands and your Hudgens, boys.
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What an epic failure that was, huh? lol Man, i remember being fucking PUMPED for that when i saw the teaser trailer... WOOOOOOOW. What a tragic dissapointment. The fuckin' Japanese have NO IDEA how to tell a story. They have some pretty images, and interesting ideas, to be sure... but storytelling? FUCK NO.
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Suckerpunch is going to suck gigantic balls, Zack Snyder is a fucking hack, and Vanessa Hudgens is a worthless piece of clit. News at 11.
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...but is your wife as "hot" as TINA FEY?? ... *snicker*
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Jul 27, 2010 2:33:11 AM CDT
If you honestly think Tina Fey is hot...
by that_girl_from_the_lowes_commercials_gar
...then i really, truly, doubt your taste in females... and i have come to the conclusion that, your "bisexual" wife, is in fact, NOT hot. Not. One. BIT.
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... so you're into the whole tentacle rape/schoolgirl porn thing, eh? Kinky bastard... ;-)
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i don't know, it just seems too realistic to me. Hopefully they will add some special effects in there before they finish it.
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Jul 27, 2010 2:37:33 AM CDT
Yeah Scarlett. I'm thinking more along the lines of...
by that_girl_from_the_lowes_commercials_gar
SUSAN BOYLE or something like that.
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Can't say i've seen any "bug porn" before... Damn, just when i thought i had seen everything there was to see...
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Jul 27, 2010 2:48:15 AM CDT
ok, i'm gonna take you up on this...
by that_girl_from_the_lowes_commercials_gar
"japanese porn worms bugs". SEARCH...
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sorry Zack, too late...
you have defined yourself and I'm not interested in rewarding your trash.
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Jul 27, 2010 2:56:41 AM CDT
Dang, i was hoping to see some awesome japanese bug porn...
by that_girl_from_the_lowes_commercials_gar
but i didn't find any site with any pictures, that NORTON deemed "safe"... oh well lol
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It looks like another Znyder eyeball-rape-fest movie which is great. I think more directors need to add visual flare to their movies but some of the CGI in this trailer looks no beeter than the average videogame intro. Still the huge samurai with the minigun has my inner geek dancing with joy :D
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It just looks like an uninspired thrown together mess of CGI and stunts.
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Now, that is a good film.
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to release trailers exclusively on that abortion of a video format.
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This talkback turned "mentally challenged" so hard and fast, it literally fucked up my computer. Excellent work, fellas! Never take our medication again!
A bit of sanity: 300 was okay; visually interesting, good adaptation, kind of empty, but not bad. Watchmen was okay if you never read the comic; visually interesting, kind of empty, but not too bad (utter bullshit if you're a fan of the comic though, sucked all traces of life out of the story)
This trailer is... interesting. An anime extravaganza. All the stuff we wanted to see in movies when we were 14. Will it be more than just visually interesting though? Who knows? Previous efforts say probably not, but directors grow and mature. Only a-holes refuse to allow for improvement.
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Snyder is an incredible director who has suffered incredible criticism for his adaptation of other's work, no matter how great it was. I know I will enjoy the film, but I'm interested to see the audience and critical reaction to Sucker Punch.
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Absolutely agreed on each and every point. Well done sir :-)
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"Go see "Salt". Now, that is a good film." LMAO Seriously bro?
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Jul 27, 2010 3:44:10 AM CDT
and speaking of video games...
by that_girl_from_the_lowes_commercials_gar
Are we ever gonna get a "Shadow of the Colossus" film? That would be pretty fucking epic. Unless it was done by Paul W.S. Anderson, or Brett Ratner or some douche like that. It should probably be animated too i suppose... If it was done live-action, could you imagine an Alfonso Cuaron directed "Shadow of the Colossus"? Holy. FUCK.
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That kinda seems like a whole bunch of stuff I've seen before. Many times. I'm sure Zack will prove me to be a fool but right now I'm not enthused.
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That's understandable... you should go see "Salt", 'cause Media Messiah says it's fuckin' awesome. And of course with HIS approval, it must be quality stuff!
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Didn't he used to have no space between "Media" and "Messiah"? Is this a fake? I haven't heard him post anything about how he's been re-writing scripts for Nolan or Bay so I'm assuming this isn't the real deal.
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I'm confusing him with JettL93. Or JettL1993. Both of those guys baffle me with their posts.
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In fact, people were cheering at the end of the movie, in the theater where I saw it tonight.
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I never sought to rewrite a Nolan film--specifically, it is TDK that you are referring to? I only pointed-out how its final edit should have, and could have, been handled; and that editional writing should have been done to better define the relationship between Bruce Wayne and Rachel, and its deeper, more intimate, romantic intrigues. In regard to Michael Bay, his Transformers films are written by two lousy writers--and I don't seek to give any further comment about them, or Bay, at all--but I would be remise in not saying the following. Bay isn't concerned about making art, nor an intellectual statement in film--he is only concerned about making a sizable paycheck (which is fine, when you need the money), but at this point...he doesn't need the cash. He couldn't spend his wealth, and endless royalties, in 10 lifetimes, or more. It is only a case of sheer greed on his behalf, nothing else. He is a white collar businessman, and a skilled technical technician, not a true artist; there is a difference.It is all about the big bucks with Bay, not integrity of the arts. Which begs the time honored question, "When is enough money, enough?"
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That's: "and a skilled visual technician."
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"In fact, people were cheering at the end of the movie, in the theater where I saw it tonight." You know, in my experience... people cheering and/or clapping after a movie is a sign that it was a bad fucking movie lol. People don't "Cheer" after Inception, or Children of Men... but people do cheer after Transformers 2, or Pirates of the Carribean... see my point? That "People cheered after the movie" defense is completely worthless i'm afraid... so i'm going to keep assuming that "Salt" is an uninspired/lazy/cliche-ridden/illogical/derivative/hack-job stinker of a movie. Would that be a fair assessment?
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I thought that 300 was idiotic, but maybe that's because the graphic novel is idiotic? As many people have remarked before me, Sparta was one of the least free places to live ever - yet we had Gerard Butler shouting 'fre-e-e-e-edom' and were expected to buy it? At one point I thought things were all going to get Starship Troopers / District 9, and that the 'goodies' would be revealed to be the 'baddies' but it wasn't so. WATCHMEN, though, was I think better than it's given credit for in these pages. It wasn't just eye-popping - the performances were fantastic, the pacing was (I thought) really epic, and some of the complexity of the original was up there on the screen. I've heard it described as 'the best film ever made by a bad director', and that makes me chuckle! Of course, if SUCKER PUNCH is actually good, that may all change...
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Of course you didn't like 300! Why would you? It didn't have any unecessarily nude 13 year old girls in it, like your favorite movie: "Valerie and her week of wonders". Duh!
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Jul 27, 2010 5:41:46 AM CDT
Now go jerk off to Maladolescenza you creepy FUCK!
by that_girl_from_the_lowes_commercials_gar
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How is Snyder a great director? He hasn't done much of anything really. Dawn of the Dead? Meh. 300? Soulless eye candy. Watchmen? Meh. The opening sequence was better than the entire flick. There's his prolific record.
Here is what imdb says: Sucker Punch is a movie about little girl who is trying to hide from the pain caused by her evil stepfather and lobotomy. She ends up in mental institution and while there she starts to imagine alternative reality. She plans to escape from that imaginary world but to do that she needs to steal five objects before she is caught by a vile man. Story is set in 1950's."
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Pretty spot on with that assessment of Zack Snyder. Especially about the opening sequence to Watchmen. How fucking brilliant was that? And yes, sadly that was the best seen in the film... I think he really should stick to animation like "That Owl Movie"... I still can't believe the dumbfucks who type that shit. That's like calling The Secret of Nimh: "That Rat Movie" lol
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That's some mixed up shit right there. Obviously the movie itself is either gonna end up the greatest thing since sliced bread or steaming pile of crap.
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Jul 27, 2010 6:13:45 AM CDT
Another positive about Watchmen...
by that_girl_from_the_lowes_commercials_gar
The use of Philip Glass during the mars sequence... Snyder knows his music, that's for sure! Glass, Dylan, Smashing Pumpkins (from the brilliant teaser)... good shit!
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.....are ever going to do a Justice League/Kingdom Come movie, they should not look any further than Zack Snyder. I mean, he's already pretty much a DC/WB guy with most of his movies having come in their house.
And especially for Kingdom Come, I honestly don't think there's any other director alive, Nolan included, who would be able to capture Alex Ross' Universe on the big screen like this guy potentially could.
OF course, if Marvel were smart, this would have been the guy they should have stolen right from under DC's noses to handle the Avengers movie - but as we've all come to learn over the last couple of months Marvel are not smart.
And for all the crap about how they run a tight ship over there, Feige's bumbling interference would just clash with the creative Freedom that Snyder seems to thrive in.
Between this, their Animated movies, and the DC Universe Online game trailer that they realesed a couple of days ago, DC just might have some people in their house who know how to deal with large scope extensive comic book sagas without pussy-footing around the spirit of the source material.
I hate to say this but once the Nolan brothers right the Superman ship with the next movie, and DC cleverly move ahead and give someone like Snyder the keys to the Kingdom (literally) or even start him up with something like Wonder Woman (which, as we all can remember that "genius" Whedon couldn't handle), they will eventually kick Marvel's butt back to second best.
They just seem to give their directors more freedom to realize their visions over there unlike over at Marvel.
Once the Avenger's movie underwhelms after they release it, their best hope might be to try and get someone like a more (by then) seasoned Neil Blomkamp or Kosinksy (already in Disney) to handle the inevitable sequel, and then step the fuck out of their way and let them get the movie right.
Whedon is just going to bend over and eat a lot of penny-pinching budget-tightening crap from Marvel which is eventually just going to see the whole movie suffer. -
I'll pass. I've seen all of Snyder's films, and I think he peaked with the Dawn of the Dead remake, which was kind of crappy anyway.
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...that are meant to be empowering to women whilst being a blatant fetishistic celebration of misogyny? Looks like it.
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"blatant fetishistic celebration of misogyny"! Yippee!!
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Looks like Snyder us going for broke. Again.
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...Barbarella, Six String Samurai, Fearless Frank, Bloody Mallory, Straight to Hell and the one thousand films from our friends in Japan that do pretty much what this looks like it is trying to. If this movie does it right I would guess I'll love it, too.
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While I agree that Japanese cinema has been championing this look and feel for quite a while now, I'm sure Snyder can bring something new to it. It all has that genuine dreamscape vibe about it, another reality. This is surely the way to go if you want an effective transition from comic to screen. Imagine X-men or the Avengers done like this - you'd have complete creative freedom. No issues over Wolverine's yellow spandex, no issues over Thor being a God. You could do it all. Trying to ground everything in reality has and will continue to stifle comic adaptations.
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Dawn, 300, Watchmen - not a bad triple for a movie maker. I'm interested in seeing what he does next.
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Can't wait for this one
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I hate to disagree w/ all you stuck up intellect-in-my-face types, but I'm saying fuck substance and give me STYLE for this one!
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. . . Justice League, he could also handle The Dark Tower, should they stubbornly decide to go the film route. Although I'm really picturing Hillcoat taking that one on . . .
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Jul 27, 2010 7:55:20 AM CDT
I Applaud Snyder for Something that's not a Reboot/Adaptation
by aquatarkusman
But it's still a bunch of trite, sepia garbage being vomited in that annoying fast-motion-then-slow-motion one-trick-pony thing he does.
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And let's not forget "Hallelujah"! Oh wait, let's.
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. . . seemed kind of uninspired as well to me. I would have used One of These Days by Floyd.
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Reading this makes a little more sense. Wikipedia entry: "In February 2009, Snyder released a short synopsis of Sucker Punch which states: "Set in the 1950s, it tells the story of Baby Doll (Browning), who is trying to hide from the pain caused by her evil stepfather and lobotomy. She ends up in mental institution in Brattleboro, Vermont and while there she starts to imagine alternative reality. She plans to escape from that imaginary world but to do that she needs to steal five objects before she is caught by a vile man. She has 5 days to escape before being lobotomized. In order to cope with the situation, she enters the hyper-real world of her imagination, and the lines between reality and dream begin to blur. She is joined with friends who are inmates from the institution. Lessons learned in the said fantasy world could help the girls escape their real-world fate.""
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Jul 27, 2010 8:08:50 AM CDT
So It's Like Girl, Interrupted Meets South Park's IMaginationlan
by aquatarkusman
Now I know where I've seen that giant samurai before; it must have been borrowed from the prop department at whatever studio made Terry Gilliam's Brazil. Or it's a big computer file.
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now if only the finished film can deliver
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Seriously, because that trailer was all kinds of crazy goodness.
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I mean, just because you can do wonders with CGI, does not mean you mix and match genres and through shite up on the screen and say 'whoa look what I did now pay me! Blowtarded!
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Dang
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And I've gone as far as calling him a master and a true visionary, despite the vast tide of hate directed towards him. This trailer vindicates my faith in this man's artistry. Phenomenal.
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Snyder does it right every time.
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But alas.
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He may have an understanding and innate feel for certain technical elements but he doesn't (yet?) appear to understand how to use those skills to tell a good, rich story. There's probably a market and audience for his films and there's arguably some entertainment value on a very superficial level but for an American made big-budget movie, being able to tell a compelling story is far more important then force-feeding your mind with visual flare. If he could do both... then that might be something worth seeing.
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Every frame is perfect. And his storytelling is unmatched. I would pit Snyder against any of the classical masters any day - Scorcese included.
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I think 300 was a superb yarn, and the dialogue was careful and engaging. I never read the Miller book so I don't know how much is attributable to Snyder, but the final sequences alone, beginning with the faux surrender to the final "To victory!" charge ... that is some epic storytelling.
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If somebody knows BSB's whereabouts, call 911.
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Blown by the winds of hot fanboy breath and /or lust depending on the fanboy! I want to see Snyder direct without using green screen and CGI. Without Slo-mo-cap. Without a slavish devotion to style over substance.
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C'mon. The entire movie looks like a computer game. Enough already. It doesn't look visually interesting. It looks fake.
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I'm far from a fanboy. I haven't stepped foot in a comic shop in years. I don't own busts, maquettes or action figures. I do like good quality movies.
Yes, Snyder has an intense, visual style. I happen to be captivated by it. But it's more than that. He really does know how to tell a story, how to direct his actors, has an ear for good dialogue. His movies are memorable, unlike Bayformers where you forget you watched it 30 minutes after it's over.
I can understand the dislike for his movies. It's art, it's subjective. But it's also undeniable there's a vast talent behind his work. You can tell there's a ton of thought behind every frame. -
SexyBroughtBack - I never thought you was a fanboy. I thought you was mental! BTW I'm just tweaking your cilia - youse a cool cat. Snyder has talent, but say what you will about Bay - he has talent too. He blows shit up gud! Having a narrow focused talent might be ok if you are only trying to appeal to a narrow focus audience. See: Bay - blowing shit up. Snyder - homosexualist influenced, slo-mo-cap-crap with a certain elan. Does not make either of them any good, just means they have a certain talent.
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is ok with me
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if it is a hard R rating..watered down PG13? I will catch it in HBO.
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If these two films were released at the same time and all you'd seen were the respective trailers, which would you see first? Why?
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..in both quality and BO returns. Zack can do no wrong.3 fucking hits in a row? Yeah, i have more faith in this guy compared to the other hacks out there.
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You're cool too despite the cilia tweaking.
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DOTD, 300, Watchmen and now his grand opus to geeks everywhere...Sucker Punch.
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He's not fat. He's good looking. He works out and he makes amazing films. I think if Snyder was fat and unattractive they'd take to him better.
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great setting,premise and design.That being said, the film was somewhat slowed paced and not enough action compared to the classic anime series.The 1995 OVA by umetsu still stands out as the best interpetation of the Tatsunoko "Robo Fighter".Cool intro theme too.
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Kevin Smith is Fat and Ugly and i fucking despise him mainly because he's way overrated and most of his films suck. (Not to mention that comment regarding Kirby.)
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definitely looking forward!
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WTF? I'm 100% in Snyder's corner and all, but your either telling a joke that flew over my head or your commment on his weight is absolutely retarded.
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This is EXACTLY what a live action adaptation of a FINAL FANTASY game should look like.
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Jul 27, 2010 10:17:50 AM CDT
From Snyder's masturbatory fantasies to a movie screen near you!
by darth_von_stroheim
This is a Zack Snyder film, so based on his track record it is definitely going to be at triumph of style over substance. It will no doubt feature that slo-mo action stuff he loves so much. It will feature at least a few scenes of painful, over-the-top narm (unintentionally hilarious displays of emotion, for those of you who don't browse TVtropes). It will feature stilted dialogue and characters who speak without using contractions (e.g. cannot instead of can't, will not instead of won't), because epic action movies always do that for whatever reason (as evidenced in the Matrix movies). It will be loud and completely lacking in any subtlety and nuance, because that's how Zack Snyder rolls! /// On a completely unrelated note, "Inception" rocked!!
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Christopher Nolan is not fat or ugly, and geeks love him.
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"I think 300 was a superb yarn, and the dialogue was careful and engaging."
Really? I thought 300 was silly, over-the-top, historically inaccurate homo-erotic camp set in Conan's Hyborean fantasy world. I'm not saying it wasn't fun. Hell, I own 300, but I don't think it's a great example of storytelling. It's visually interesting but about as subtle as a charging rhino... -
Random geeky stuff strewn together does not a good movie make.
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Zach Snyder is the new Michael Bay.
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Visually nice, but seeing a bunch of skinny girls fighting doesn't interest me. Now, a bunch of porn stars fighting naked? Yes.
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Jul 27, 2010 11:13:21 AM CDT
I've enjoyed all of Snyder's movies.
by ooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuutttttlllllaaaaa
I'm in.
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In high falutin writing- contractions are a non-no. So, my guess is that he an others who eschew the apostrophe are doing so out of a desire to elevate their work from the mere action adventure. BTW you now have made me pay close attention to all the dialogue in action adventure movies from now on - damn you!
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E Browning looks good, V hudgens is good, but J Chung FTW.
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Jul 27, 2010 12:05:25 PM CDT
SOME OF YOU HAVE 300 CONFUSED WITH MEET THE SPARTANS
by bringingsexyback
That's the only explanation. Also, Spartans did not use contractions.
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I will watch ANYTHING that Zack makes. Even that movie with the owls.
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Given
300 was great because of the historical setting and the story.
Watchmen was a failed attempt to adapt an excellent story.
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I definitely liked that trailer. The sheer insanity of it grabbed my attention, plus the stony asylum is in Brattleboro, Vermont. Which isn't that far from where I live.
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Just kidding, actually Snyder's cut of Watchmen is fantastic as far as story is concerned. DoD2004 is a bench mark for modern zombie films. This guy is a genre director who for all his flaws at least has some passion for his work. I'd really like to see him do Justice League.
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but he's growing on me. He at least demonstrates a sense of style, and an eye for cinema, unlike that guy slated to direct Avengers. This looks very cool.
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Sucker Punch has a Nazi costume party, turned orgy story.
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It's kind of like, say, Aliens vs. Predator - it's natural for geekdom to think, "wow, these are both so cool...imagine if we put them together, how cool that would be!" Then, of course, the result is not only remarkably un-cool, but far worse than either part individually, and cared about by only a miniscule fraction of those who cared about the original.Everything about that trailer screams the same phenomenon. It's inevitable that eventually, schoolgirls, dragons, Nazis, samurais, aliens, demons, etc. all get rolled into one film, and that is when we will start to realize that it's not the "oh cool, what if they did *this*?" realm that is the source of the real coolness that inspires us all so much.As usual, hope I'm wrong. But 'diminishing returns' is the theme in Hollywood in recent years.
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All his crap looks the same. Style over substance, a slow motion, CGI, crapfest. Every shot looks like it's a bad airbrush painting on the side of a weirdo's van.
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slow-motion....
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slow-motion....
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But kudos to all involved that they persuaded some studio to give them millions of dollars to make was is quite obviously an excuse for more sad geek cunts to push the price of Kleenex shares through the roof.How did they get proper (ish) actresses for this? "You will be wearing mainly fetish underwear and schoolgirl outfits for most of the movie. During the fight scenes the camera will linger on your slowly bouncing breasts and taut buttocks while the sweating all-male audience puts a crick in their necks trying to catch a glimpse of your barely covered vaginas."
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I used to like Dawn of the Dead, but having watched it a second time recently I could'nt get past the fact that from the moment the zombie baby shows up, it's just a mess plot wise. And 300 is just awful. At least Watchmen had a story that was engaging and the slow motion that was used looked good because it wasn't overboard like in 300. I also liked the fact that it preaty much followed the comic.
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and have no plot?
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And watching 1996 anime.
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Obvious Blue Screen BackgroundsObvious CG CharactersPoor ActingYep it's obviously a Zack Snyder movie! I hated Watchmen but hopefully this won't be the same pretentious mess!!
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One of the most predictable and lazy movies I've seen in a long time.
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Okay, I'm a little excited about the prospect of this flick. It looks badass.
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If you hate Quicktime and Apple's trailers, here are my two suggestions:
1) Download the file to your hard drive. To do this, use a downloader like winwget. Set the User Agent to 'Quicktime'. Add an 'h' to the URL like so:
trailers.apple.com/movies/wb/suckerpunch/suckerpunch-tlr1_480p.mov
... becomes ...
trailers.apple.com/movies/wb/suckerpunch/suckerpunch-tlr1_h480p.mov
2) Watch the downloaded file using VLC or MPlayer.
I don't have Quicktime on my work computer, and I don't have admin priviledges so I cannot install it. I use this method for Apple's trailers and it works just fine. -
... you'd think I'd learn after all this time ...
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I kid... but seriously... Snyder couldn't have thrown one in this, just to mess with us? I'm there for this one, BTW. Snyder pissed me off with his bungled Watchmen, but 300 and DOTD were both well worth the price of admission. I'm intrigued to see what he does with this crazy genre-soup, without having the spectre of adapting a sacred cow hanging over the production. And Emily Browning = good lord! -
I am there! Looks bad ass. Haven't enjoyed a trailer that much in a long time. Even the music worked for me.
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It's a piece of shit!
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I'm sure Bill Gates is sitting in his subterranean lair, brow furrowed in anger, cursing your bold, maverick nature!
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for Monsters..? It's all over the net and yet AICN have no idea!http://monstersthemovie.com/
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and the worst movies. 300 & The Watchmen were two of the most kick-ass trailers I've seen in a while. The movies were nearly unwatchable.
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Well, guess Snyder and I share pretty much the same masturbatory fantasies. Come on, pretty girls in tight leather with big swords and guns takin on huge Samurai dudes with chainguns; that looks freaking awesome! Others stroke their boners to new vids of Stallone flexing his muscles, so to each his (or her) own. But that´s as close to a big time live action-anime you can get! At least until James Cameron comes up with "Battle Angel Alita"; which quite honestly may never happen. :-(
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I'm impressed. It's a big risk, though. It feels like SCOTT PILGRIM for people who like sex.
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Yeah, but that guy's a douche, the one in the DAWN remake.
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but I've got a lot of respect for anyone who can make it in life. Having said that, I don't like Zack Snider movies, I honestly thought Watchmen was complete pretentious nonsense. 300 was just rubbish. The trailer for this SuckerPunch is all over the place. It's almost like he's seen some intro for a game and thought, oh that would make a great movie.Once again though, respect to him for getting shit loads of cash to make the film and to line his pockets!
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...cripple fight.
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I was all fired up for this!
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In this war SCARLETT is Switzerland. Call it cowardice but he's not coming out fighting. He is still offering online banking services for jews with gold tho. At infowars.com no doubt.
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I'm sure it's all at infowars.com, though.
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Jul 27, 2010 6:23:46 PM CDT
UNDER MY UM BA RELLA ELLA ELLA EHH EHHH EHHH EHH EHH
by bringingsexyback
Stay thirsty my friends.
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dont you know I work for the lame as Government I can't DL shit.
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Everyone is talking about it.
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named SCOTTPILGRIMFAN. Good thing Suckerpunch is out next year.
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I'm gonna see Pilgrim myownself. More 'cause it's Edgar Wright than anything else. Plus I like Michael Cera. Y'know, Mr Manager?
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As do fans of his movies.
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Everyone is going to go and see it. It's a phenomenon. The buzz on Twitter proves it.
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Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World will change the way movies are made... Forever. I'm never wrong.
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Are you guys thinking?
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1. This looks fucking TITS!
2. The ending in Watchmen the movie is better than the ending in Watchmen the comic.
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I know my mom's not gonna see it. She's part of everyone. But, oddly enough, she DID like Green Zone. Bear in mind, this is the lady who was hugely entertained by Alvin and the Chipmunks, so...grain of salt amigo.
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That's what they're saying on Twitter, and I must say that I agree with them.
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Looks like SPF and Choppah are on the same team, so I'm guessing SCAR_JO is the one getting spit-roasted?
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Damon's character should've sent the email (though we wouldn't have seen this), then died in that big action scene, and then for the ending we see Amy Ryan's character open the email. That would have been a better ending. You would think 'oh no, he's dead, all hope is gone' but then you'd see the email and be pleased. Plus, throughout the film he should've been way more freaked out by everything that was going on. He seemed to accept that the war was being fought for entirely fake reasons quite easily.
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had it not been based on a book about real events, written by the guy who survived them. But I'm sure you knew that. And with that, I cease engaging the underbridger.
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Pilgrim's Pride... ? Explain.
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I KNOW it wasn't Damon's character. M'kay?
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They can, and did, change stuff you ridiculous clown. You think the CIA guys were real CIA guys do you?
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that's what BASED ON usually means. They take artistic liberty. Aren't there any six-year-olds you can make fun of around? And 'ridiculous clown'? Really? I suppose you save 'fag' for small children then? You are a class act. I'm sorry I ever engaged you at all. I won't make the same mistake twice.
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You really showed me. Good work, genius.
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But how does it relate to me?
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Explain it from the top.
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Spread the word.
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SPF is Maddie Hayesand I'm Agnes DiPesto...cause we met on the waaaaaaaaay
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They mean everything to me. Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World is the most important cinematic event of the year. So I get a little excited. Is that a crime?
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or Curtis Armstrong or whatever his fucking name was on Moonlighting.
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they sneak the horse into the deans office and then it dies of a heart attack when Flounder shoots the gun with blanks in it?Inception is all movies.
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Rick tells Ilsa that if she doesn't get on the plane she will regret it. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow.Inception is all movies.
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Tony pulls out the machine gun with the grenade launcher on it and says,"Say hello to my little friend"Inception is all movies.
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Yo! Pretty ladies around the world,
got a weird thing to show you, so tell all the boys and girls.
Tell your brother, your sister, and your ma-mma too, 'Cause we're about to throw down and you'll know just what to do. Wave your hands in the air like you don't care. Glide by the people as they start to look and stare. Do your dance, do your dance, do your dance quick, Ma-mma, c'mon baby, tell me what's the word? Ah word up! Everybody say, when you hear the call, you've got to get it underway. Word up! It's the code word, no matter where you say it, you'll know that you'll be heard. now all you SUCKER DJ'S who think your fly, there's got to be a reason, and we know the reason why. You try to PUT ON THOSE AIRS and act REAL COOL, but ya got to realize that you're acting like fools. Give us music, we can use it, be FREE to dance. We don't have the time for psychological romance. No romance, no romance, no romance for me, Ma-mma, c'mon baby, tell me what's the word? Ah word up! Everybody say, when you hear the call, you've got to get it underway. Low, dial 'L' for Low. Ahhhh--ahha. Just c'mon all you people sing: W-O-R-D up W-O-R-D up W-O-R-D up W-O-R-D up W-O-R-D up W-O-R-D up... -
Arthur told everyone that Cobb fucked a platypus Inception is all TB's.
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Judge Reinhold and Fred Savage swapped minds?
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Cameo made a cameoOh! Im gooooood
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this flame war has been squashed by my brilliant gambit of comradery.the shark has been jumped. you re all best friends now
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Cobb entered the dream level where the Titanic was sinking and that chick was running around saying "Jack? Jack? Jack? JACK?"...and it turns out she was a Nazi sypathizer. Inception is all movies.
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I admire you.
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He was retarded in a tree? Inception is all movies.
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Cobb took that hit of ecstasy and Michael from Lost did a whole musical number in drag and didn't say "Waaaaaaaalt!" one damn time? Inception is all movies.
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I'd like to apologize to you for getting a bit heated earlier. It's been a rough couple of days & I overreacted. Sorry sir. Inception made me do it.
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Inception does funny things to a man.
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they convince Kevin Costner to build a Baseball field in his corn field?
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Mr. Greenfeld gives Debbie $20 to touch her titties?
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Mr. and Mrs. Hardwicke catch Roberta masturbating with a candle, and she ends up getting fucked by Mr. Hardwicke?
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it was "Full of Stars..."
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Indy just shot the guy with the big sword, instead of bullwhipping him to death...
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Stephen Dorf was bloated up like Jabba the Hut with PMS and Bladely Snipes said "Some motherfuckers are always trying to iceskate uphill"? Inception is all movies.
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they spent 17 hours on the boat with a bunch of assholes no one cared about and we all were thinking "Get to motherfuckin' Skull Island ALREADY!"... Inception is all movies.
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Lee Marvin and Clint Eastwood were fuckin the same woman...and everyone was breaking out in song about their wagon and how it needed to be painted...Inception is all movies.
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Type a line. Space once. but without any spaces, space once...new paragraph.
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Brad Pitt's wife got her head cut off and delivered UPS to him and Morgan Freeman in the middle of the desert...Inception is all movies.
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Anaconda gives you 'Whooooooooo'! Inception is all movies.
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Cobb thought he was Howard Hughes...Inception is all movies.
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...everyone thought Baloo was dead, and they were crying and stuff...but he was really just in a level-3 dream waiting for a kick?
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Cobb was adopted by the Sever Family on Growing Pains...Inception is all movies...and also TV...
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...INCEPTION is all movies. ...is that right? That's right, right? Did I do it right?
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A girl in a little sailor dress armed with a sword was fighting a GIANT SAMURAI-MECHA WITH A MACHINE GUN... Inception is all movies of the future too.
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Inception is all people who just caught up.
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Don't get me wrong. He's not a bad director like say... Uwe Boll. He clearly has an understanding of some technique and there's a purpose to what he does and 300 is undeniably a beautiful picture. But you'd have a hard time convincing me that he's a good storyteller.
Spielberg and the wizards at Pixar are good storytellers. Their primary concern is focused on how they can make the story "work" with the audience. The camera work, script structure, characters, performances, fx, music etc are all used to enhance/maximize the delivery of the story. And after the credits roll, you're touched by the story. That's what you talk about, think about, remember most.
I have no doubt that Snyder wants to tell a story too, but in contrast, his primary concern is more about how he can blow your mind visually from one moment to the next (this should be obvious). Unfortunately, this results in just about everything else taking a back seat. Everything ends up serving the visuals. It's easy to be get sucked in by what you see and fooled/blinded by the impact each frame creates. But a beautiful picture doesn't necessarily equate to great film making. The (good) director's job needs to go well beyond how everything looks. If you break it down, you sort of realize that what you liked was just the superficial layer and there isn't much else there.
Using 300 as an example, the actors can be better described as "posing" instead of acting. Put another way, if I were any one of the actors in the film, I wouldn't want to use my performance in 300 as representing what I'm capable of. The dialog (and it's delivery) is layered thick with melodrama but it's hardly anything that's going to win awards. Characters don't have any depth or significant purpose other than to deliver on some dramatic moment at some point in the movie etc. Again, once you take away the visuals, there's really not a whole lot there.
I hope that made sense. If I can't convince you then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Arnold yelled at the little South American lady to "GAAAOOOO! GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!!!!" Inception is all movies.
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Arnold said..."You're one UGLY Mutterfukka..."And then he died of radiotion poisoning from the exploded alien devices...Inception is all movies...
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Jul 27, 2010 9:39:53 PM CDT
Dawn of the Dead. 300. Watchmen Ultimate Cut. All great.
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That's right. All fucking great.
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John Rambo covered himself all up in mud but it turned out he was just waiting on some Russian douche and not fighting a Predator? Inception is all movies.
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cause it was slow?
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the team was trapped in a weightless closet and some midget psychic was yelling, "DON'T GO INTO THE LIGHT!!!"And a lot of dead Indians who weren't playing baseball in Kevin Costner's back yard...
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the Top Talkbacks. Nothing against Dr. Who. Just sad to see only 3 or so people posting that much in a single talkback. Get out of the house!
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I don't know what it is.
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In all seriousness I feel like Snyder is great visually for action, but I think his movies lack acting heart. He sacrifices story and acting for these Michael Bay-porn action moments, only Snyder doesn't use quick cuts, he uses slo-mo. Money shots are great but you need the love to make great movies.
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Clint Eastwood pulls his gun and is all like, "Well, do you? PUNK?" Inception is all movies.
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Whitney Houston is holding this samurai sword, and Kevin Costner gets up and grabs her scarf, and throws it up in the air so it falls over the blade, which is so sharp it sliced the scarf in half? And then they DO IT?!?!?!? Inception is all movies...
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there's this shot of a pool ball rolling across a bar floor, and Brendan Fraser picks it up and looks up and there's Elizabeth Hurley standing there, in a red dress, all sexy and shit? Inception is all movies.
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The guy had to shoot Ol' Yeller...Inception is all movies.
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Johnny told Ponyboy to stay gold... Inception is *sniff* all movies.
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Richard Gere hired a prostitute and didn't pay her to Gerbil-fist him...Inception is all movies.
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This black dude asked this white guy what did he like to do? What were his pleasures? And the white guy was like, "Oh, I don't know. Play chess. Screw." And the black dude was all like "Let's play chess." Inception is all movies. Even comedies.
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Shut up.
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the Great Owl told Mrs Brisby to move her home to the lee of the stone...the leeee of the stone.... Inception is all movies.
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And Inception is all hijacked talkbacks.
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That guy was yelling out the window..."I'm Mad as Hell...and I'm not taking it anymore!!!!"
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No shit. That's not sarcasm. I really did, I can't wait to see it again. I plan on playing hookey from work to do so in the near future.
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Later amigos.
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Jul 27, 2010 10:42:46 PM CDT
I've seen it twice...Loved it better the second time...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
Inception IS all movies.
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...that guy was all "HEY! I'M WALKIN' HERE!!"...
But really he wasn't. He was in a recliner with an I.V. in his arm?
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That crazy orange-headed lady kept saying 'Leeloo Dallas moolti-pass'... Inception is all movies.
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That's good. I saw it too. Once was enough for me to bypass Leo Dicaprio movies for awhile.
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Red Foreman said 'Bitches leave'... inception is all Clarence Boddickers And the Tigers are playing...TONIGHT!
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Cobb is all like..."You talkin' to me...???YOU TALKIN" TO ME???"
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keep forgetting....
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they decided to nuke the site from orbit 'cause it was the only way to be sure... Inception is all movies.
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we found out a hickey from Kanicky is like a hallmark card... Inception is all musicals.
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...Ed Harris is sinking down, alone, in the dark...a one-way ticket into the abyss...and Cobb zips down past him in an elevator on his way to a ski vacation down on Level-3?
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Viggo kills TWO Russian mafia toughs bare-ass NEKKID... Inception is all movies with big swinging balls.
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Ed Harris was trying out to be a Mercury astronaut....He had all the right stuff...Inception is all movies...
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Morpheus tells Neo about the fields...endless fields....where humans are no longer born; they are GROWN. And then Neo barfs. Inception is all movies.
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It looks like a movie custom made for a trailer. Usually, that kind of stuff made me wary. I thought Wathcman was OK but 300 was a pile of dog vomit. Of course, if you consider the source material, that should not be surprising. Was mildly diverting, but still waiting on some Thor, Captain America and Green Lantern Footage!
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Absolutely. It's kind of an indicator of technical naivete when people think it's a decent video format. Since Real Video (thankfully) died, Quicktime has the crown of the worst and most intrusive video format.
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Neo stopped all those Sentinals in realtime...but, didn't know that Hugo Weaving was asleep in the med lab...<pInception is all movies.
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Jul 27, 2010 11:25:38 PM CDT
That was my favorite part, Bloody Breast Milk...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
Glad you liked it too...
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that snake-head guy was chasing Dennis Quaid and that little kid down that rickety staircase over a black nothing... Inception is all movies.
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that was funny...
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John McClane dropped Snape from the Nokamura building. Looks like the kick didn't set in. Inception is yippy-ki-yay, mother fucker.
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was ultimate Kick...also, every other death in that film...Inception is all movies...
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Samuel L Jackson proclaimed 'Yes I killed him, and I hope he BURNS IN HELL!!!!' Inception is a sweaty Ashley Judd.
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The serial killer Jeff Daniels turned out to be living in the boat right next door? And you were banging your heart donor's sister.
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When Pacino loudly yells "Cause she's got a great ass!" Inception is all movies.
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Jul 28, 2010 12:02:07 AM CDT
Fuzzy, I missed your "Nuke it from Orbit" take...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
on Inception...HHHAAAA!!!
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WHEN YOU DON"T SEE THE TOP FALL? RESPECT THE TOP. IT DID FALL.
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Sean Connery and that Lambert guy (who is probably that Juno chick's dad, due to the same huge noggins) when they were all like, "There can only be ONE!!!"Inception is all movies.
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Some are just more inceptional than others...
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when that'll do pig, that'll do. Inception is all sleepytimes. G'night.
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When Eastwood says "We ALL have it coming kid"
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Jul 28, 2010 12:13:42 AM CDT
Top only falls when Mal wants it to fall, TheTop...
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when the hillbillies told Ned Beatty to "Squeal like a pig...'Inception is all movies...
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when the Colonel says " Hoo Hah".
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Kick = Nuking the Fridge...
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Jul 28, 2010 12:37:46 AM CDT
Arthur is kicking himself for not thinking of it...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
he likes anti-gravity WAY too much...
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Argyle was jamming to some tunes and on his phone in the limo while the terrorists were holding people hostage in the Nakatomi Plaza building?
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Jul 28, 2010 4:02:43 AM CDT
Geeks? Who cares about the F*cking geeks!! We've GOT the f*uck
by lukestarkiller
...the studios want REAL people for that $200 million gross. Once the studios realized that the Geek Brigade have very little $$ power at the box office (see "Kick Ass" and every Kevin Smith movie out there), they stopped caring about you. The above Tom Rothman quote is so true....they've got you...you'll all pay to see these geekbait movies no matter how much you rail against them here. The only reason the studios go to comic con is the geeklosers a simple minded, easy to please audience and the major media cover the show...it's easy to build some buzz there, but you're not a "force" to deal with when selling the movie to the public...they don't care about you, about your precious "canon" when they make their comic book movies or anything else you care about...you're still losers.....
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i dont get it what you guys up to?
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Snyder thinks of himself as a genius visionary. Which he is NOT. But that's actually no bad thing. Howard Hawks was no visionary. John F'n Ford was no visionary. They were both craftsmen. But extremely good craftsmen. Not flashy, not artsy, not wanting to change the view of the world, but self assured, low key craft what is a) seldom to find (who comes to mind in modern cinema?) and b) almost an art in it's own right (just like an Eames chair is almost a work of art). Maybe Snyder will realize that and then will blow us away with a really great feature. Sucker Punch is NOT that feature, though.
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geeks have become foolish in the past years. go play dress up all you want, just makes you look like an idiot.
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best movies in existence and they are totally original not adapted from some comic book and made to film. suck it fanboys but just adapting something perfectly into film will not mean its a great movie.
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Zack whatshisface makes movies with no substance. the trailer tells me its gonna be a wild music video made by Tim Burton's retarded son.
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James Spader got fucked in the ass by an Egyptian Dog headed weightlifter, but Kurt Russell laughed so it was ok.Inception is all movies.that ones for you Doix
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how the fuck is it all movies? its one movie! centered around one characters getting over his wife's death and his desire to go back to his kids. thats not all movies at all.
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Tom went to Summer's roof party with the expectation of getting back together, only to find out she was engaged to another guy? Talk about a kick back to reality.
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Bill Paxton was sorry for his behavior, but only after he was transformed into a talking, steaming, farting pile of feces?
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Kay Parker went into her son's room while he was asleep and as she laid her eyes wistfully upon him, comforted by his presence in her otherwise lonely life after being spurned by her husband - his father - took his penis into her mouth?
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there was a sudden, startlingly loud noise?
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when the Romans ripped the flesh from Jesus' ribcage? INCEPTION is all movies.
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I think we just view Snyder through different lenses. Sure, his primary strength is in his visual style, which to me, no one does better. But he excels at directing actors too. Take 300 and Gerard Butler. I think Butler is one of the most horrible actors around. His last few movies (that I saw, and I did not see most of them) are unwatchable. But in 300, he WAS a king. He was unrecognizable as Butler. And the relationship between him and Queen Gorgo was exceptionally done and most importantly, believable.
It's true that Snyder's world is purely fantastical within a green screened environment. He's not Ang Lee in Brokeback Mountain mode. But within the style he works in, he is a master.
I do think that he is taken less seriously because of the subject matter he works with. Out of curiosity I would love to see him do a movie without EFX. But - that's not his forte. And if as an artist he has no interest in that, it will not be done well. But I do know that as a director with an eye and ear for good performances, he has the skills to do it.
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I thought Zack said the music for the trailer was a Zeppelin song. WTF?
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I gotta put on to go see this motherfucker? March cannot come soon enough.
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You follow Meryl's ass all the way up to Psycho Mantis' office and then goes psycho and you have to slap her unconscious and Mantis is all like, "I can read your mind... so you like to play Castlevania!" And then starts throwing shit at you and you've gotta unplug the controller and plus it into the 2nd port to disrupt the 2nd level dream and get kicked back into reality when the Colonel calls you and tell you to turn the PS2 off right now because you'll spoil your freakin eyes from playing so long???
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Law Abiding Citizen.Although..Unless he is at zero % body fat he looks like a bloated downs child.
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the clues back to where it started. I'll give you a hint. It's all in this thread.
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...Watson was getting out of the shower and Sherlock was waiting with his magnifying glass right on the other side of the curtain. Inception is all movies.
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Cobb told Ringo "I'm your huckleberry".... Inception is all movies.
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Then I heard Emily Browning was in it. I've had a few "When are the Olsen twins gonna be 18" thoughts about her since Unfortunate Events, I'm ashamed to say.
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...totally are taken from Gilliam's Brazil. I'm completely intrigued by this film but I just know it's gonna suck. Why is the car driving up to the metal institution completely fake? Why can't you just shoot that practically? I've shot on green screen many times and the reason was because I have lazy. At least do some model work. Everything looks like a fucking video game anymore.
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I want to see this, like, NOW.
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300 was for gay men. This? This is for us.
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You'll see. I'm never wrong. I am the king of AICN.
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so many of you are getting apparently genuine happiness from this trailer..
But you guys lovin' this now will be the ones shouting loudest when it turns out to be a story-deprived bore-fest.
Yes, flashy amazing action really can bore you if you have no story-reasons to care about the character. Remember the epic 70 minute youtube commentary that guy did on The Phantom Menace? -
you should check out his Attack of the Clones review as well. Just as long. And I thought just as funny. His whole 'kidnapped ladies' interludes are kinda stale though.
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http://tinyurl.com/2a7v3q3
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Cobb told that story about his father hiding his grandfatherfather's watch up his ass so the gooks wouldn't get it?Inception is all movies.
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Cobb hung himself in a shitty little apartment after getting out of jail because he was too institutionalized to survive?Inception is all movies.
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there was only one pregnant woman left in the world and Michael Caine told those guys to pull his finger?Inception is all movies.
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Oh yeah, this will be a big, dumb, loud, piece o' shit. But if this big, dumb, loud piece o' shit features CRAZY HOT imperiled ingenue Emily Browning in a miniskirt, flashing panties as she does backflips in the air whilst chopping giant robot monsters apart with her samurai sword? (Which it does.) It will be THE BESTEST BIG DUMB LOUD PIECE OF SHIT EVAR! (and by "EVAR" I mean in a span of time no shorter than 3 months or until some analog of "hot chicks in fetish wear brandishing swords in a cartoonish landscape" comes along to unseat it).
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Dammit!!! I was really looking forward to this!!! Aronofsky+Robocop=Win
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Yeah, if it featured an actress I thought was crazy hot, I could see the appeal. I just don't go for the murky colors / Moulin Rouge / skinny / mopey chick look.
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Meanwhile, a REAL nerdgasm was the Infinity Gauntlet movie prop that was unveiled at the end of ComicCom.
It's amazing how a couple of small, blurry pics on the internet of a movie prop under glass gives me much more nerd joy than all the chaotic overload of Sucker Punch's monsters, mechs, girls, guns, etc.
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So do tell genius, since you are so knowledgeable (so you claim), what will the box office take be for your gay Scott Pilgrim movie? Come on now, tell us genius, or is your attention span too short to give such things a thought?That's why you go on Twitter, it's for gossip obsessed bitches and small minded attention deficit disorder fools like you.....but come on, share with us, your box office prediction for your gay little movie?Come on now, I know it's tough because mommy wants you to clean your room (all those tissues overflowing from your garbage can must be embarrassing) but surely you can spare us a minute to give your genius prediction?
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It's the fact that the story blows, Bay can't direct a comprehensible (or engaging) action scene to save his fucking life, and it shit all over the source material, which, okay, was really nothing more than a toy commercial to begin with, but a really awesome one. Bayformers is like a REALLY BAD toy commercial. And that doesn't even get into how racist the movie was. I mean, Ghetto Bots? Really? Of course, Sucker Punch will probably also be really dumb, but I bet it will have some sense of cohesion, and for all his leaning on spectacle, Snyder knows how to put together really cool looking CG set-pieces. 300 was a bunch of crap (of course, I woulda LOVED it if I was a gay man), but it looked *really* cool. I think this looks like a big ball of fetishy fun for freaks of all ages. Or maybe not. Maybe it'll blow. Hot blonde in pigtails and miniskirt doing backflips over a Giant Samurai Robot has me thinking it will be just good enough, though, and may even be TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME (and retarded).
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It's too bad I can't go over the movie frame by frame with you. I should be able to convince you that his movies don't quite deserve the high esteem you hold them in. As I've said before, I do think he does certain things well (and I am interested in seeing how he fares with future projects), but it seems you're giving him way too much credit. I suppose though that we'll have to agree to disagree.
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I did liekd his first movie. A american friend of mine, however, he was not amused by the first movie, and he was unto Snyder from day one. I was optimistic about 300, evne when th writing on the wall started to send dire warnings. My friend said "it's going to be stupid and very bad". and lot and behond, 300 was indeed stupid and retard beyond belief. and then came WATCHMEN, the movie that proved beyond a doubt that snyder can't do smart no matter how hard he tries, because he is not a smart intelligent guy. Made an atempt that failed. So, really, even after 300 and WATCHMEN and there are peope, who are expecting good things from Zack The Hack? Where does this unending optimist against evidence cames from? Drugs?
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That was pretty cool, but do you think they're actually going to do honor to those stories? No. You know they're not. They're going to mangle it, compress it, and dumb it down for the masses. *Maybe* the Whedon helmed Avengers will be good, he's usually good, BUUUT, he's also the guy who wrote Alien Resurrection. When I see those Marvel props and cool concept art and the stars all lined up I think, "Wow, I wonder how they're going to hopelessly ruin this... or not ruin it, but make it just "okay", mediocre, which is almost worse than it being REALLY bad. At least that would be funny."
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Zack IS a hack, and he obviously didn't understand Watchmen AT ALL (note to Snyder: an adaptation doesn't mean "shoot the whole thing in the order the frames appeared in the comic as if it were a storyboard", but to bring out the themes, nuance, message, and plot in a unique way) but this is EXACTLY the kind of stuff he's good at. Big Dumb Loud Spectacle... with HOT CHICKS in miniskirts doing backflips over Giant Robot Monster Samurai.
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I can't deny that SUCKER PUNCH seems to play more to his own style, as you said, dumb loud over-stylized stuff that pretends to be cool and slick. But thing is, i read the rpemise of the story, and it's one of those "troubled girl in mental isntitution has to face off both a bad reeality and a dangerous fantasy mental world and overcome obstacles to free herself". Well, so far so good, i mean, one can make either bad or good form that. The problem, you se,e is that the story, the real world stuff, is set in the 1950s. Let me say this again, a girl in 1950 has a rich SF steampunk imagination where she imagines battling giant samurai looking robots and do extreme bushido/ninja/kung-fu stuff. A girl from 1950s Eisenhauer's America. You know, i would even half-buy it if it was like UFOs, at least even girls knew about UFOs back then. Yes, there were always guirls who were 2in-the-closet SF geeks who were afferaid to come out and admit as much,for fear of social ostracization. but the fantasy world depcited in this movie, as partof the midn andimagination of a 1950s girl is just too mcuh to believe. I know this sounds like a strange thing to say, to expect believability in a fantasy story, but man, they did set it in the 1950s. They are inviting this type of scrutiny. This is not like a story set in the 1980s or 1990s, where SF girl geekism became a bit more common. No, really, man, what is going on about this movie? Again, i suspect that ASnyder, in the midfdle of the nerd ninja stuff, will try to pull some serious drama stuff, which meann, run for the hills, badly made melodrama bullshit ahoy! Seems luike Snyder saw CHASSHERN and got a terrible bad case of penis envy. Thing is, CASSHERN did mannaged to be both fantasy insane fantastic and seriously sincerely dramatic. Snyder can't pull that off, he's too much of an under-educated brat kid. Smells like ass to me already.And everything you said about Snyder and WATCHMEN is exactly as it is. You nailed it right in the head. Snyder has no deal to play with adult stuff.
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That's roughly what it sounds like. Eh, I don't mind all the stuff that doesn't make sense -- like a girl from the 50s having the imagination of a girl from the 90s. I'm not looking for a period piece, or even anything "smart", I just want an insanely over-the-top fetish action movie with hot chicks in miniskirts doing backflips over Giant Robot Monsters. How this occurs, or the reasons it occurs, makes no difference to me. Hell, I think they should just dispense with the whole "mental institution" plot and play it all as if it were really happening; just totally dispense with believability altogether and go insane.
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Zack directs Star Trek 2 (Abrams produced edition)!!!
Would you just KILL yourself if this happens???? In public? On the News???
It'd be Hi-LAR-IOUS if you did...
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You and I have had some pleasant back-and-forths, but I gotta say....really? The fact that it's set in the 50's is a sticking point? And by setting it there, they're 'inviting scrutiny'? Now, if it was based on real events and not completely fictional, that may be a valid statement. But sometimes you just gotta take that leap brother. There IS such a thing as 'over-thinking' a piece of entertainment. Please don't take that statement to mean I don't expect internal cohesion in a story. I do. Everything presented needs to make sense in the fiction that is built. But as long as the story itself has a decent structure and isn't some POS like Transformers 2 that was just shit strung between incomprehensible action beats, I'll suspend a little disbelief. Anyway, I know you have high standards in regards to film, but sometimes it's ok to just have fun. It's kinda like all the folks who have problems with the 'nuke the fridge', but seem to forget all about the 'light-based trap' from Raiders, the 'life raft parachute/bobsled' from Temple, and the fact that Indy seemed to get EVERY SINGLE BIT of his personal inspiration over the course of 15 minutes in Crusade. Love ya Asi.....keep on keeping on.
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the nuke the fridge hate is reDICKulous. It's Indiana Jones folks. It's absurd serial adventure.
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There isn't a single hack and terrible movie that you don't like, do you? You are a great mitmus test, if you like some movie made in the last 20 years and it's filmmaker, chances are good that they are total shit.
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Then prepare to live the rest of your life in deep Ingmar movie depression, because it's not going to happen. You killing yourself will come first, that much i assure you.
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Ddue, it was not me who set the movie in the 1950s, was I? It was Snyder Hack boy, he did. And yeah, thinking about stuff is not Zack The Hack strongest virtue, is it? Nobody can aver accuse Zacky boy of over-thinking, because he can't even under-think! Thinking are things of the devil, according to Zack-o-boy!
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... make another movie where even in the concept department the movie has bullshit writen all over it. The older Zack boy gets, the more infantille he becames.
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thanks for the thoughtful response.
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Jul 28, 2010 5:01:38 PM CDT
And those of you who think that Emily Browning is not hot...
by asimovlives
... you better start design clothes for a living, because you are gay. That's a fact, deal with it, come out of the closet already.If there is only one good thing i see about this movie is that it might bring more exposure to Emily Browning, which is deserving. Too bad it has to be from some dumb ass Zack The Hack Snyder movie.
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No, he's a filmmaker with flaws. He's learning. But, he IS a talented filmmaker, with a gorgeous eye, understanding of rhythm and pacing (that is Nolan's major failing, his scenes lacks a musical sense of rhythm) and space. The "Watchmen" movie is much more than it's surface effects. "300" is unfortunately burdened with Frank Miller's jingoism (but extraordinary design sense — which Snyder amplified) and it's failure as drama (not to mention history) start with the book. Although, Snyder deserves some of the scorn attributed to the movie, he made up for it with "Watchmen".
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that's because of the SOURCE MATERIAL by Moore and Gibbons, not Snyder's flat, workmanlike rendering of it. I don't think he understood one lick of what Watchmen was trying to say about fetish, fascism, and fatalism (read: deconstruction of comic book superheroes), but he knew how to string the images together because he had a full-color storyboard and he's good at visuals. I don't think he quite understands what "adaptation" means, though. It doesn't mean "copy these images the way they appear in the storyboard," it means get down into what the story means, the themes, nuances, and plot, and then re-representing those themes in a unique way. Snyder didn't do that with Watchmen; he just put the images in the correct order without any understanding of what is really going on in the story. It would have taken a director of supreme talent and ability (I'm thinking Kubrick level, or at least approaching Kubrick level) to pull it off satisfactorily, and Snyder is NOWHERE NEAR as good as Kubrick. BUT, he is better than Bay, so, there is that. Anyways, something like WATCHMEN was over his head, but something like this? This is where he can excel -- at putting together over-the-top action set-pieces in a cartoonish landscape.
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After he RUINED The Watchmen? Sure, you can LOOK the part Zack, but you should be jealous of puddles because they have more depth.
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LEAVE IT ALONE. YOU CAN'T MAKE IT BETTER. SO STOP IT. Thank fucking god they realized this. And THANK FUCKING GOD A MILLION TIMES that this will keep Darren "Egotistical Hack" Arronovsky away from it. That dude is THE WORST. The VAGINA SPACE TREE MONOLOGUES was FUCKING TERRIBLE. The Wrestler wasn't *too* bad, but it was still WAY overrated. I mean it was actually ridiculous and more than a little cliche and CORNY as all hell, but I enjoyed it despite it's flaws.
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No, you only like shitty movies made by shitty hacks. And one day you will be right about something, but not this decade yet. Maybe the next. Maybe.
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Frankly, i'm also happy that the Robocop remake is now over and out. It all looked like a waste of talent from Darren Aranoski,the man should spend his considerable talent making the stuff he really wants to make, and not kissing studio's ass.
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Ruined Watchmen, exactly! that's exactly what he did. After he fucked up history with the demented deranged stupid shit that was 300.
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No, Zack THe Hack Snyder is not a filmmaker with flaws. Unless all he has is his flaws to cathegorize and describe him. No, what Zack is is a hack that's dumb, crass, uneducated, uncultured, and not 1/10th as smart as he thinks he is. And for his visual flair, i have seen much, much better from filmmakers who have much less active and enthusiastic publicists, and thus, not hailed as "visionaries". Calling Zack The Hack a visionary filmaker is an insult to the all true visuionary filmmakers that ever were, and it makes the very word banal and void of meaning. Visionary bullshit! Only thing visionary about him is how agressive self-publicity can turn hacks into movie rock stars, but even in that he's not the first or the most sucessful in their deceit, Jar Jar Abrams and Michelle Bay arrived first with the idea. Even in the hacks pantheon he's second tier, Zack boy is.
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That's all there is to say about him, really.
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Probably the best of all time will now only be remembered as that one movie with the guy with the blue penis. Thanks, ZacK! Zack with a "K", as in he puts the "K" in sKin-deep.
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... SCARLETT_JOHANSSONS: two people totally dedicated to be wrong about everything.
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Jul 28, 2010 7:20:17 PM CDT
There's nothing Zach does visually that hasn't been done by...
by rbatty024
a million other music video directors. There are few directors who I actively root against. Hopefully after the artistic and commercial failure that is Watchmen, funding for this douche will dry up.
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That was a very retard thing for you to say. Which is something you usually do, right? So now my bashing of Abrams, Snyder and Bay is anti-semitic? Then how the fuck you explain that some of of my top favorite directors are Stanley Kubrick, Steven Spielberg, the Coen Brothers, Darren Aranoski, David Cronenberg, Milos Forman, William Friedkin, Spike Jonze, Fritz Lang, Michael Mann, Sam Mendes, Sam Raimi, Billy Wilder, Robert Wise, to name a few, all of them jews? How do you explain that, fuck face? If all you can come up with to point out my dispise for for the untaltned hacks Bay, Abrams and Snyder is some stupidly perceived antisemitism from me, you can pick that shit and shove it all up in your fucking ass, you cocksucking motherfucker. Eat shit, fuck off and die!
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You said it, brother.
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Not trying to be a dick, just saying, I can't stand Aronovsky's pretentious, hilariously overwrought bullshit. I think he's WAY more the dude who's "not 1/10th as smart as he thinks he is." Snyder is, like, a "bro." You know what I mean? He's not that bright, but he has some cool ideas, maybe you drink a couple of beers with him, smoke a doobie every once and a while, but ultimately, he's kinda the jock side of geek, so you don't totally get along, but, yo, hey, he's really good at putting together those action sequences! But, yeah, giving him WATCHMEN was so far off base and wrong it's not even funny. Someone like Kubrick would've been the ultimate choice, but even contemporary "smart" pop filmmakers like Nolan or Fincher coulda done a better job; see, they know how to direct movies where people talk for extended periods of time in addition to flashes of engaging action or horrors. Snyder's not, nor was he ever that guy. But for something like this? This is EXACTLY the kind of shit he should do. Fuck, I actually bet he woulda done a WAY better TRANSFORMERS movie; it woulda been similar efx, but cooler action scenes, and slavishly attentive to fanboy detail. Shit, he probably woulda done a shot for shot remake of the original cartoon miniseries complete with animation mistakes! It don't matter! TRANSFORMERS wasn't about talkin' and nuance, it's about robots clobbering each other up! How do you fuck that up? Seriously, how? Ask Mikey "Cocaine" Bay!
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Jul 28, 2010 8:10:25 PM CDT
The idea that Snyder "didn't understand" the source is bollocks
by blakindigo
ESPECIALLY
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I think it's only the luxuries of fanboys, who a.) don't know Snyder's educational pedigree and b.) suddenly dismiss that art education as irrelevant, but only when it's convenient for their argument. Snyder IS NOT a simpleton.And, if we compare him with Nolan, for instance (another talented, yet flawed filmmaker) then looking objectively, Snyder has a MUCH better compositional sense and rhythm. He runs rings around Abrams, Asimov. That's a useless comparison. You sound like someone who would've dismissed Alan Parker, Adrien Lynne and Ridley Scott as hacks, because they started in commercials.
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Don't know what I just saw, but I can't wait to see a bit more !!
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Like all of the hack's fanboys, you are stupud and dumb, and all the shit that cames out of your mind just turn back and bite you in the ass. Because you are stupid. Reduce to your own insignificance, troll boy. Fuck off.
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the "Watchmen" movie, although they don't really have the tools to deconstruct it in any meaningful way. It's a shame really, because the film in it's director's cut, really does offer a tremendous amount for more serious examination. Especially in contrast to the book, which has already garnered critical exegisis as text. Looking at the movie as 'meta-text' it offers many brilliant things.
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Why would i dismiss Alan Parker, Adrien Lynne and Ridley Scott as hacks just ebcause they started in commercials? In fac,t the first english directros that came out of comemrcials were pretty good directors, and you know why? Becasue comemrcials made in the 60s and 70s were dependent on narrative as well as visuals. Commercials back then were 30 second long stories used to sell products. Instead of what comemrcials are today which can be called impressionist at best. Don't evne compare the comemrcial directors of the Alan Parker and Ridley Scott generation to the hacks like Bay and Snyder. Those two different type of directors form comemrcials have nothing in common with each other. So that argument is moot. Dude, really, you should know by now that i a bit more knowledgable about this shit then the hack fanboys are, which are, without exception, ignorant fools. I do know a bit of the historical background of this shit. Give me this much, thank you very much.
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... Zack Snyder does not impress me in the slightest. The Sucker thinks he's a visualist? The sucker has nothing on Terence Mallick, and that filmmaker doesn't need stupidly over-abused CGI fake backgrounds to make his movies look gorgeaus. Zack Snyder can shove his "pretty visuals" up his fucking ass. Zack THwe Hack Snyder typer of "visual artistry" (can't evne say that without laughing) is the type of shit that would impress the slackjawed inbreeds who can't fucking understand the very concept of aestetics in function and service of a story, which is the capacity of any human being with two working braincells.
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... up his fucking ass, and his fanboys with him. They could all make a party out of it. Fucking asses!
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why should ANYONE give you any benefit of the doubt after this little quote: 'I a bit more knowledgable about this shit then the hack fanboys are, which are, without exception, ignorant fools'. That's called a generalization, and is the crime you, yourself are accusing fanboys of. I know you aren't an idiot, but I take a little bit of offense at such an asinine statement, as I consider myself a bit of a fanboy. I also consider my tastes and opinions MY TASTES AND OPINIONS, and try not to judge others because they do or do not like the same things I do. It's all subjective. C'mon...saying things like 'Snyder is a hack' is a bit hyperbolic, don't you think? He hasn't made a Citizen Kane or 2001, but with only 3 features under his belt, it's a bit early to make that claim, is it not? I hope you understand I'm not looking for a fight, as I have in the past enjoyed some discussions we've had, but insulting someone based on what they enjoy is a bit prickish, don't you think?
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commercial directors like Tony Kaye or even Tarsem (classmate of Bay and Snyder). They produced brilliant commercials as did David Fincher. Is Snyder as talented as they are? Probably not (definitely not in the case of Kaye and Fincher). But, denying Snyder's talent as a visual craftsmen is false.
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FRANK MILLER'S ID HAS ESCAPED !
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Just a straight solid B. I loved 300 at first, but it's getting more cheesey with time. However, hate all you want, but a lot of the stuff he did in that movie has been aped by other people in movies, tv and advertising. So he gets a little extra bump in the grade for that. Watchmen, I actually think it's NEAR great. ALMOST exactly what I wanted (especially the extended cuts). But the small problems that it does have, like the ending, will never allow it to get higher than that solid B. I am however STILL really forward to Sucker Punch. Actually, I'm looking forward to it MORE than I was yesterday. Looks like something I've never seen and something that I would love at the same time.
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In snyder's movies YOU CAN TELL WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON!!!!!!!! Looks good to me.
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Another AICN TB filled with idiotic rantings and retarded name calling?? OMG I just don't believe it!!!!! God this used to be a fun place to come discuss movies, now it's all about who is right/wrong, who can come up wit the bigger insult and arguments about who knows more about movies....what a load of shit.
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Yeah, it's basically the average day in the life of AICN TBers.Half shocked to see Asi go off in a tanget like this but it's not the first time.I respect his passion for cinema and his tirades are amusing for the most part. but to be honest discussions shouldn't turn into vicous name calling and skirmishes although it was bought on via The choppah's constant trolling.Asi is stubborn and opinionated just like most of us, but I think it's best to agree to disagree instead of some pissing contest.BTW I can tell who's a hack: Roth,Ratner,Shamaylan,(just for being overrated and not living up to his "potentual"))PWSA, (although I did like Event Horizon)Bay and now the 2 Hit wonder that is Bryan Singer.Zac has a solid track record for moviegors looking for thrills while engaging in contemporary storylines.Sucker Punch looks to be a guilty pleasure film as it comes off unapologetic.So no doubt, i'll decide wether this is a hit or miss.Play nice Guys.
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Jul 29, 2010 11:39:39 AM CDT
Yeah, Asi goes off the handle, no doubt. But, Christ,
by colonelfatheart
that fucking troll called him an anti-Semite! Good lord. Asi's rage was warranted in that instance, at least.
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300's dialogue was careful and engaging???
Persian: My arm!
Stelios: It's not yours, anymore.
Captain: They look thirsty!
King Leonidas: Well, let's give them something to drink! To the cliffs!
Spartan King Leonidas: Unless I miss my guess, we're in for one wild night.
King Leonidas: In the end, a Spartan's true strength is the warrior next to him. So give respect and honor to him, and it will be returned to you. First, you fight with your head...
Queen Gorgo: Then you fight with your heart.
King Leonidas: [sees the Captain] What is it?
Queen Gorgo: A Persian messenger awaits you.
King Leonidas: Do not forget today's lesson.
Pleistarchos: Respect and honor.
King Leonidas: Respect and honor.
I've seen more poetic, engaging, and clever dialogue in "Meet the Spartans."
Paris Hilton: I'm a Hilton, I don't bow... but I do bend over.
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I agree bro... damn straight about the commercials of old.
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I'm not sure whether to call you a pu$$y or tell you to get off our high-horse or to just be efficient and tell the pussy to get off his high-horse.
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