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The Avengers Assemble at Comic-Con! First look at the full line-up!

Published at: July 24, 2010, 11:54 p.m. CST by quint

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Right after the Thor panel (coverage coming very soon) Kevin Feige, Marvel movies head honcho, asked us if we wouldn’t mind staying a bit later, that he had something he wanted to run by us. Lights go down and another video plays… it’s Sam Jackson’s voice narrating over a slowly illuminating symbol. Essentially he’s saying there will come a day when Earth’s mightiest heroes will be needed. On that day, we will meet… The Avengers. Samuel L. Jackson is introduced and takes the stage!

Introduces right hand man, Agent Coulson (aka Clark Gregg). “My right hand woman…You know her as Black Widow… Scarlet Johansson! The God of Thunder Chris Hemsworth! The first Avenger, Captain America… Chris Evans!” Tons of cheers. Then “You know him as Tony Stark… Robert Downey Jr.!” and the roof was blown off the place.

Downey takes the mic. “Don’t anybody stab anybody anywhere until I’m done talkin’!” referring to a stabbing incident in the hall earlier in the day. Vintage Downey. No shit. Someone got stabbed.

“I come before you a very humble man, strangely, this evening, to be in this most excellent company. I don’t mean to mention other movies, but did anybody see Inception? I think that was probably just about the most ambitious movie I’ve ever seen. Then I thought, ‘Wait a goddamn second! Marvel Studios is going to take all of their top superheroes and they’re going to put them all together in The Avengers? That’s the most ambitious movie I’ve ever seen!’” Then Downey announced the official casting of both Clint Barton/Hawkeye and Bruce Banner/Hulk. Jeremy Renner, playing Hawkeye, and Mark Ruffalo, playing Bruce Banner, took the stage… along with Joss Whedon.



And then the Avengers were assembled (click the first, longer pic for a bigger version):





The place went ballistic. Highlight of the Con, without a doubt. More in-depth coverage of the Thor Panel, the Cap panel and some catch-up articles coming from me in the near future! Stay tuned! -Quint quint@aintitcool.com Follow Me On Twitter



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  • July 24, 2010, 11:31 p.m. CST

    first

    by nietzschebot

  • July 24, 2010, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Looks like a 10 on one porno, needs scarlet witch

    by nietzschebot

  • July 24, 2010, 11:40 p.m. CST

    sausage fest!

    by oisin5199

    I hope there's gonna be a Wasp in there somewhere! Anyway, love these pics and the experience. Wish I had been there.

  • July 24, 2010, 11:41 p.m. CST

    God Scarlett is HOT!

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    Even the crappy looking pictures can't stop her HOTNESS!

  • July 24, 2010, 11:41 p.m. CST

    God Scarlett is HOT!

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    Even the crappy looking pictures can't stop her HOTNESS!

  • July 24, 2010, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Scarlett for Power Girl.

    by Doctor_Strangepork

    That is all.

  • July 24, 2010, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Joss must have had some pics of someone

    by RPLocke

    How the hell did he get this gig?

  • July 24, 2010, 11:46 p.m. CST

    no blonde hair for Evans...

    by Dolph

    'tis a shame

  • July 24, 2010, 11:46 p.m. CST

    God Scarlett is OVERRATED!

    by Markver1

    She has a very good publicist. Average looking at best.

  • July 24, 2010, 11:48 p.m. CST

    RDJ Jr........

    by lewarcher1949

    Looks like he stepped out of a 70's cop show in these pics. Pretty cool.

  • July 24, 2010, 11:51 p.m. CST

    after seeing this DC will no doubt

    by 2007

    replicate and top this with the infaliable being known as Chris Nolan in "god father" position. jezz if they would only make batman smart again....I love ruffalo, he's nervous cause everyone misses Norton.

  • July 24, 2010, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Markver1

    by NoQuarter

    Saying that Scarlett is "average at best" is literally one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Even if she's not your cup of tea, it's beyond ridiculous to deny that she is quite attractive. Now her acting skills...snipe away.

  • July 24, 2010, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Marvel vs. DC

    by Logan_1973

    Good Lord this is going to get good! This is one war I am happy to be able to watch! Go Joss! Go Nolan!

  • July 24, 2010, 11:54 p.m. CST

    I'm so happy! The Avengers is gonna happen

    by Amadeo Zeller

    and it's in the hands JOSS WHEDON! <p> LIFE'S COMPLETE!

  • July 24, 2010, 11:56 p.m. CST

    is Clark Gregg having a heart attack?

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

  • July 24, 2010, 11:57 p.m. CST

    hey,look its 12 uncomfortable actors on stage!!

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    I DO wanna see this film, but these aren't exactly exciting.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Ruffalo looks the opposite of a nerdy scientist

    by Nerd Rage

    It's ashame, he taints a pretty solid cast.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Let's not all get caught up in a bunch of actors onstage

    by IndustryKiller!

    It would be easy to lose sight, in a moment of hyperbolic nerdly optimism, of exactly how stacked the deck is against this film. Nortons out, Marvel are acting like a bunch of megalomaniacs, Iron Man 2 was terrible, some of these actors are questionable at best in their roles, and we already know from Iron Man 2 Jackson is just playing a bland version of himself and Johanssen is just plain bland. Oh and Joss Whedon is directing and if you liked the jokey dipshits he turned the X-Men into in Astonishing X-Men you just straight up have no idea how to interpret character.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Hawkeye

    by Xerobull

    ...(Renner) may steal the show.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:14 a.m. CST

    I love how Nolan keeps topping Downey, and Downey know it

    by IndustryKiller!

    Second time that Nolan has opened a superior film in the same summer as one of Downeys Iron Man film, and the second time Downey has taken a sort of shot at him for it. Even better, Batman 3 is going to open the same summer as Avengers, and is obviously going to be the vastly superior film. 0 and 3.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Very cool, very cool indeed.

    by Namorita

    This also must put to rest the ant man conjecture, I know Nathan is there but it seems based on this family photo it was just fun and games. Or perhaps that is still a secret with wasp and the such...

  • July 25, 2010, 12:18 a.m. CST

    I think Ruffalo's face looks more like Hulks

    by EastcoastAvenger

    Just saying..

  • July 25, 2010, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Next stop, Ego Central...

    by workshed

    ...and ferfucksake Jackson, lose the beret! Whatever happened to the ice cold muvva who played Jules? Long gone.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:21 a.m. CST

    I never thought of that but he does look a bit Hulkish...

    by Namorita

    ECA...I see it...the Hulk out might even be more intense with that element.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:21 a.m. CST

    It's directors vs. actors now?

    by T 1000 xp professional

    ... anyways I'm sad about that Astonishing comment. I enjoyed the heck out of it. The pacing and action beats were fantastic and things actually felt like they were at stake. Definitely good stuff for a large summer superhero movie.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:22 a.m. CST

    Alexander Skarsgård IS Thor!

    by Napolean Solo

    Nuff said!

  • July 25, 2010, 12:24 a.m. CST

    can't believe i'm seeing this

    by antonphd

    i never thought this would happen. as for Mark, he's the best bruce i think we've had yet. i love ed norton but... thing is... he was cooler than the hulk. Mark i completely buy as smart and kind of wimpy. And i've liked Mark since You Can Count On Me.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Anyways, enjoy this hyperbole

    by T 1000 xp professional

    it's all part of the fun. We all know the stuff stacked up against them..... On a side note, how nice would it be for them to include some aliens into this marvel universe already..Thanos.. Skrulls... now I may sleep :)

  • July 25, 2010, 12:25 a.m. CST

    If by hulkish you mean constipated

    by Nerd Rage

    then yes Ruffalo's face looks more hulkish.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:26 a.m. CST

    T1000, you LIKED the pacing of Astonishing??

    by IndustryKiller!

    The final Ord story had some of the wonkiest most confusing pacing I've ever seen. as it was in the New Brotherhood of Evil Mutants (an lineup no writer should EVER use again) story. And again, he wrote the characters badly, in typical Whedon joke mode. With White Queen nothing more than a standard Sex In the City caricature you couldnt fathom what Scott SUmmers (who was as boringly stoic as ever under Whedon) ever saw in her and Wolverine more wise ass than bad ass. I'll give him Beast though, he wrote a good Beast.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Alexander Skarsgård is more like Loki not Thor

    by antonphd

    when he went all goofy scared in the church in True Blood last season all i could think was 'this guy is a blond doppleganger for Jim Carey!! Go watch the episode and see for yourself! He is a total lanky goof!

  • July 25, 2010, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Whedon also failed to write a SINGLE good villain.

    by IndustryKiller!

    The Danger ROom story was a great idea conceptually, and horribly executed. And what was with that terrible "Michael Bay Transformers" looking character design?? Sheesh. The less said about The Ord the better.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:28 a.m. CST

    Alexander Skarsgård

    by antonphd

    not to say that he isn't awesome, because he is awesome the true person to play thor was the guy who played the beowulf character in 13th Warrior but he's too old now

  • July 25, 2010, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Why would Banner look like the Hulk

    by Nerd Rage

    before transforming into the Hulk? Makes no sense.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:31 a.m. CST

    Yep, Ruffalo will be the best Hulk yet.

    by ganymede3010

    I'm glad they made the change. I still long for Howard as Warmachine though. Speaking of which, where's Don Cheadle, isn't he going to be in this thing?

  • July 25, 2010, 12:35 a.m. CST

    If only DC would stop...

    by EastcoastAvenger

    being so scared to put their Super Heroes together on screen. Why can't Clark Kent talk with Bruce Wayne like he did in one of The Dark Knight comic books? The book kept it's tone just fine whist still having the last son of Krypton making a cameo. Something like a film version of Kingdom Come would be amazing! No need to delve into everyones origin story. The story itself is good enough to keep people entertained. I don't know. I am looking forwards to seeing the Avengers. Beings that they will be the first super hero team up movie I hope they hit it out of the park!

  • July 25, 2010, 12:37 a.m. CST

    idonotseekabanning

    by NoQuarter

    It wasn't the first episode, but it was the first season. The name of the episode is "Somnambulist."

  • July 25, 2010, 12:37 a.m. CST

    Ruffalo is great, but I've never seen him remotely angry.

    by cinemixtape.com

    It will be interesting, to say the least.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Needs More Chicks

    by djr

    Salma Hayek as Tigra would have been nice. Or Emily Blunt as Scarlet Witch. Needs a superheroine on the team. Black Widow is just a chick with a gun. Still. Cool.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Idustrykiller, Ironman was better than TDK..

    by ganymede3010

    Only in your own little world will it end up being 0-3. The Avengers will own Batman 3. The Hulk kicking the shit out of the Hero's will visually top anything we'll see in Batman 3. Nolan can't shoot spectacular action sequences; largely due to the seriousness of his directorial style.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Idustrykiller, Ironman was better than TDK..

    by ganymede3010

    Only in your own little world will it end up being 0-3. The Avengers will own Batman 3. The Hulk kicking the shit out of the Hero's will visually top anything we'll see in Batman 3. Nolan can't shoot spectacular action sequences; largely due to the seriousness of his directorial style.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:52 a.m. CST

    Not to interested...

    by Fletch Gannon

    in seeing an 'Avengers' movie but will probably pay the $10 to see what's up out of curiosity and depending what the trailers show. I thought the first 'Iron Man' was great but the second was mediocre. Good points made by IndustryKiller!, especially about the superior 'Dark Knight' and 'Inception'.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:54 a.m. CST

    @ ganymede3010

    by Fletch Gannon

    Most would disagree with you but you have every right to your opinion. 'Iron Man' is a fun movie no doubt, but the 'Dark Knight' is superior. 'Avengers' and 'Batman 3' we will have to see.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Sorry Ganymede, that aint popular opinion

    by IndustryKiller!

    Which doesn't necessarily make it true, but it does mean Im not in my own little world. I don't remember public outrage when Iron Man wasn't nominated for an Oscar. You may personally find Nolans style austere, but most found The Dark Knight to be an incredibly exciting film, I literally had no idea whatw as going ot happen next. It's firing on so many cylinders thematically and dramatically that the incredibly entertaining and well done Iron Man looks fairly by the numbers, especially given how weak it's third act is. I take it that aesthetic is just more what you prefer, and thats fine, Im not calling yous tupid or anything, I love Iron Man as well, but Dark Knight was a game changer.<P>Now, on the other hand, Iron Man 2 was a shambolic mess of a film that, while not Spider Man 3 franchise killer bad, didnt really succeed on any level.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Need a super powered woman on the team?

    by EastcoastAvenger

    How do you think people would react to Spider Woman? She was on the team for a bit. After all Marvel isn't getting Spiderman back from Sony probably ever!

  • July 25, 2010, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Dear Joss Whedon....

    by Jobacca

    Dont fuck this up.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:01 a.m. CST

    Sad thing is this will do IM2 numbers!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Maybe even less. You can bet Marvel is expecting TDK number especially for an all-star cast!<p>Marvel better start gearing up for some disappointment now but thats something they should be use too!

  • July 25, 2010, 1:05 a.m. CST

    Holy fucking shit. This is really happening.

    by DOGSOUP

  • July 25, 2010, 1:06 a.m. CST

    They all seem so....safe to be larger than life heroes

    by chien_sale

    A bunch of bland people

  • July 25, 2010, 1:08 a.m. CST

    And as far as actions scenes go Ganymede

    by IndustryKiller!

    the only really well directed action scene in Iron Man was the Afghanistan showdown. The cave escape was a wonderful sequence, but more because it had been set up so beautifully with it's rich characters and because the suit looked so god damn awesome. And before you flip out I actually agree with you a bit on Nolan, he's bizarrely inconsistent when it comes to action. He's improved, but some of those shootouts in Inception where really poorly edited, others were just "show good guy shooting, cut to bad guy falling down", and then there were scenes where you had guys shooting at them from like 10 feet away with semi automatic machine guns and somehow not fucking hitting them. WTF?? But then you have the zero grav fight and its like "Where the hell did this BRILLIANT sequence come from?" So I'm not saying Nolan is always spot on with action, but he's amazing at giving little moments a TON of weight, and weaving an incredible plot while balancing a huge cast. And I would argue that the Dent Chase in The Dark Knight is an impeccably directed sequence that had more danger and thrills than anything I saw in Iron Man.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:11 a.m. CST

    Question is

    by Fletch Gannon

    how much steam is the 'Avengers' going to lose if 'Thor' and 'Cap' fail to ignite at the box office? Thus far only the first 'Iron Man' was a colossal success...'Hulk' did well but not to their liking and IM2 while it did well did not excite the public as the first one did. 'Cap' and 'Thor' are really going to have to explode next year otherwise their going to pull the wind out of the sails of 'Avengers' which means they will either pull in IM millions or TDK billions.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:13 a.m. CST

    No one got stabbed...

    by Kirbymanly

    The police report is that someone was "scratched near the eye by a pen" during an argument with a friend over seating-space issues.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Dear RDJ

    by Taragor

    You are friggin awesome but don't let it go to your head in this movie, its an ensemble cast, not IM3

  • July 25, 2010, 1:18 a.m. CST

    Hope they have time to do this right

    by Rupee88

    Iron Man 2 was a rush job..and Favreau admitted that before they even started filming. It sure showed too.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Damn I just came in my stretchy's

    by templar

  • July 25, 2010, 1:27 a.m. CST

    The only guys missing are Superman, Bat Man, & Capt. Marvel!!

    by JonChambers

  • July 25, 2010, 1:27 a.m. CST

    "top" superheros, RDJ?

    by TheHumanBurrito

    Yyyyeeeaaaahhhh.....Thor, Hawkeye, AntMan, Nick Fury, hell until recently Iron Man wasn't a "top" hero so...maybe you meant top of the B or even C squad?

  • July 25, 2010, 1:27 a.m. CST

    Nice pic, cautiously optimistic. The only way a JLA movie...

    by Julius Dithers

    can be more interesting that the Avengers movie goes like this: Superman vs. Batman vs. Aquaman vs. Green Lantern vs. Wonder Woman vs. Flash vs. Martian Manhunter. By virtue of being first, the Avengers will have covered the "let's assemble the big guns" thing covered. DC Entertainment will have to up the stakes. Give us bum wars with superheroes.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:31 a.m. CST

    Dear Joss Whedon....

    by Shermdawg

    WINGS ON CAP.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:32 a.m. CST

    Cap, IM, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye, Black Widow? That's it?

    by The Founder

    The line up is ok, but Earth's Mightiest? Thor is the only one with real power and I know the Hulk is there and he certainly ain't no lightweight, but the Hulk is uncontrollable. Maybe it'll be Hulk with Banner in control. I don't know.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:33 a.m. CST

    (A)ge(NT) coulson (rhymes with MAN)

    by liesandpicturesofalsolies

    you're welcome, internet

  • July 25, 2010, 1:34 a.m. CST

    They better put Wasp or Ms Marvel in this. Love to see Sersi but

    by The Founder

    I know that ain't happening

  • July 25, 2010, 1:35 a.m. CST

    I Was Kind of Hoping There'd Be...

    by MattDomville

    A woman in there. Not just Ninja McBetraysalot. Wasp? Ms. Marvel? I'm not picky.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:36 a.m. CST

    Don't give a fuck

    by NinjaRap

    I was worried the team lineup might be a little wack, and it is pretty wack. But the bigger problem is the lineup of talent, or lack thereof. I wanted some real heavy-hitter A-LIST talent like ROBERT DOWNEY JR. AND EDWARD NORTON. And we have Downey, and absolutely no one else of his caliber or even close. For people who only care about seeing costumes and CG effects, here's your movie. For people who care about the level of talent and about actual continuity within the universe, heh, yeah. No. You're fucked.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:39 a.m. CST

    Scarlett Witch would be the logical choice.

    by The Founder

    Of all the female Avengers I guess Wanda would be the best choice for a movie. Wasp is cool but I wouldn't call her powerful enough. Ms Marvel is cool but based on her powers and the budget her powers would be watered down. Wanda seems to be the best suited in terms of budget. Her power is cerebral and cost effective cause it,ll be fx based. Ahh hell I don't know but Black Widow just isn't impressive enough.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:41 a.m. CST

    This looks cool..

    by Sicuv Uyall

    But we all know Batman is gonna kick all of their asses.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Hemsworth does seem more Thor'ish standing so tall there

    by Saen

  • July 25, 2010, 1:47 a.m. CST

    Got excited looking at the pic and then Joss reminded.....

    by The Founder

    Of how mediocre this is probably going to turn out. Jeez Marvel know they should've put together an awesome reactive team.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:48 a.m. CST

    This is the coolest news EVER

    by sonnyfern

    Coolest news Ain't It Cool has ever covered...EVER.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:48 a.m. CST

    This is the coolest news EVER

    by sonnyfern

    Coolest news Ain't It Cool has ever covered...EVER.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:48 a.m. CST

    So cool I said it twice!

    by sonnyfern

  • July 25, 2010, 1:49 a.m. CST

    caliber of talent

    by EastcoastAvenger

    A-listers are sparse: RDJ, Samuel Jackson. Sir Anthony Hopkins and William Hurt are part of the Marvel Movieverse but who knows if the'll have anything to do with the Avengers Movie. Everyone else is so so. I am surprised that they didn't woo a big name A list guy for the role of Captain America. What a mixed bag. Here's hoping for the best.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:51 a.m. CST

    Joss Whedon & Zak fuck!ng Penn? Are you kidding me

    by The Founder

    Marvel can't seriously think they are going to make major bank with slightly above mediocre director and a screenwriter who wrote mediocre to bland superhero films. I just can't figure out what Marvel is thinking. No way is Avengers gonna rake in 400 mil plus.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:53 a.m. CST

    They don't need all Alisters, the salary alone would be 100 mil

    by The Founder

    It would

  • July 25, 2010, 1:55 a.m. CST

    Better video of the Avengers cast

    by buffywrestling

    Full Whedon comments at the end. <p> http://goo.gl/fb/RwoXx

  • July 25, 2010, 2:01 a.m. CST

    this is GREAT news

    by deelzbub

    maybe they havent cast Wasp yet. Thats why she's not there

  • July 25, 2010, 2:01 a.m. CST

    No Vision... no Scarlet Witch

    by Rocco Curioso

    Those omissions are, IMO, unconscionable. It reminds me of what that puto said to Rutger Hauer at the beginning of "Blind Fury": "Joo got to have some salsa on joor burrito". No Vision and no Scarlet Witch = no salsa on this here burrito.

  • July 25, 2010, 2:03 a.m. CST

    Thor - God of Metal

    by deelzbub

    http://goo.gl/fb/RwoXx

  • July 25, 2010, 2:03 a.m. CST

    I can put the Ant-Man thing to bed beyond the great intro!

    by Namorita

    Here is Nathan himself saying that it is logistically impossible. http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=925hMGAW6YI

  • July 25, 2010, 2:07 a.m. CST

    Honestly, it's way too early to predict Box Office

    by liesandpicturesofalsolies

    Anyone doing so has no basis in reality. It depends a lot on Thor and the Cap movie, what's playing that summer, and what's going on overseas. Still, fuck all the lame Box Office stuff. The fact is that Marvel is trying. They've gone for a director with geek cred (just because you don't like doesn't mean he doesn't have a voice) and gotten a talented cast. The element should give you pause is Zak "fucking" Penn, that guy has not written a good movie since PCU. Still, if you're not even intrigued at the possibility of this being good, I don't want to know about your crazy world.

  • July 25, 2010, 2:07 a.m. CST

    vision and witch

    by deelzbub

    need to show up for 2nd Avengers movie. before and during the Ultron fight. They joined a little later. Then save their unusual romance for the 3rd film!

  • July 25, 2010, 2:10 a.m. CST

    So where's Robert Downey in the photos above?

    by BurnHollywood

    I mean, I'm glad 70s era Harlan Ellison was able to make the scene (or is it Clint Eastwood from THE EIGER SANCTION?), but where's Downey?<p> His outfit has a soundtrack, by the way:<p> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =X2_m4LYAcdI

  • July 25, 2010, 2:21 a.m. CST

    Evans damn well be blonde.

    by Raymar

    He got a pass on Fantastic Four because he was funny but he is effin Cap now. Shape up soldier!

  • July 25, 2010, 2:21 a.m. CST

    JUSTICE LEAGUE...

    by UMAGA

    Would fuck these guys up.

  • July 25, 2010, 2:24 a.m. CST

    Downey, apparently making a Robert Evans biopic

    by IndustryKiller!

    All joking aside the guy has fucking incredible style and the moxie to pull it off.

  • July 25, 2010, 2:31 a.m. CST

    Fuck DC Comics

    by PTSDPete

    Why you lookin' at me like dat ?

  • July 25, 2010, 2:36 a.m. CST

    This would be great if Ed Norton was there!

    by yeah i'm a jerk!

    seriously, this dude playing Banner looks like crap.

  • July 25, 2010, 2:40 a.m. CST

    BATMAN HIMSELF > AVENGERS

    by UMAGA

    I'm serious. I don't know if the general public really views The Avengers as a big deal. I'm still way more excited for Batman 3.

  • July 25, 2010, 3 a.m. CST

    If you look at them based on character,

    by MAD_MIKE

    they are pretty accurately scaled to one another. with both chris's being the tallest. And both have blonde hair. <P> anyway, maybe on film, in costume, they will all look pretty bad assed.

  • July 25, 2010, 3:04 a.m. CST

    2011-2012 & The Franchise Armada

    by Flummage

    2011 -- Thor, Captain America: The First Avenger, Green Lantern, X-Men: First Class, PotC: On Stranger Tides <p> 2012 -- The Avengers, Batman III, Spider-Man: The ReWebbenning, Star Trek II, Superman: Man of Steel <p> Plus, I suppose, all the Harruh Pootles and the Twilabia incarnations, and whatever other sequels, reboots and re-imaginings I'm absolutely bound to be missing. <p> I have no further context to put this in; I just had to type them all out or my brain wouldn't really quite believe the brilliant / frightening / mostly frighting madness of it all.

  • July 25, 2010, 3:06 a.m. CST

    Hank Pym?

    by subfreq

    Great ensemble cast. Hope Ant Man also makes it to the ranks.

  • July 25, 2010, 3:17 a.m. CST

    That's an impressive cast

    by windomearle39

    Ruffalo & Renner are quality additions. Any news on the villain(s)?

  • July 25, 2010, 3:19 a.m. CST

    That was Downey Jr?

    by BenBraddock

    He looks like Stephen King did in the 80s. Anyway, great lineup, this should be huge!! Though it would be even cooler with one more hot chick..

  • July 25, 2010, 3:22 a.m. CST

    yeah butt Joss Whedon

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    New Mutants movie, if he had got X-Men First Class, think he would be ok and maybe stretched a bit as a director, but he is out of his depth here.

  • July 25, 2010, 3:32 a.m. CST

    Downey needs to work with Nolan already

    by cgih8r

    He would make an excellent riddler and he wouldn't have to worry about Nolan completely overshadowing his movie for a change.

  • July 25, 2010, 3:32 a.m. CST

    Justice League Movie

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Will see how Avengers goes, and maybe its a chance. <br />Bats, Supes, Wonder Woman, Flash and Green Lantern would be huge. <br />Think they would add Hawkgirl to add another girl to the mix and maybe Martian Manhunter

  • July 25, 2010, 3:35 a.m. CST

    Nice to finally see the actors assemble.

    by HapaPapa72

    Ruffalo's gonna be awesome, I think. Well, at least his hair is channeling Bill Bixby for me. Now again, all they need to do is actually paint some really tall bodybuilder green and WETA his height up to 7 or 8 feet. Please no more CGI Hulk.

  • July 25, 2010, 3:35 a.m. CST

    WTF was Whedon thinking? "I'm gonna blow it?"

    by BenBraddock

    Did he really say that?

  • July 25, 2010, 3:37 a.m. CST

    Bale should lead the Justice League.

    by UMAGA

    Just to fuck with Downey and force him into retirement.

  • July 25, 2010, 3:48 a.m. CST

    Whedon is talented

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Watch Serenity. Watch JJ's Star Trekwars right afterwards. Realise Serenity is about 1000 times more natural, enjoyable and cinematically honed than Abrams effort.

  • July 25, 2010, 3:59 a.m. CST

    gonna suck!!!

    by conservativeandproud

    This movie is gonna suck!! JOSH WHEADON ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!? The hell with the actors, at the end of the day it all falls on the director and who marvel has chosen is "pure crap". All this guy has done is write crappy comicbooks and create chick flick tv programs and directed a movie that looks like it could ve been on sci fi saturday night feature. I can imagine the movie now with its dawsons creek like dialogue and low budget looking tv style like action, also you know someones coming out of the closet cause that's what hes known for is his feminisation of characters. Alot of people are gonna say but he wrote comicbooks, remember frank miller "a great comic artist" everyone on this site was so excited for "the spirit" and we all know how that turned out, and also dont forget david goyers masterpiece "blade trinity" a masterpiece. For people comparing "batman 3" to "avengers" is like comparing a masterpiece to an incoming turd, SERIOUSLY!! Youre trying to compare a masterful director (nolan) to a hack who peddles junk to tweens (wheadon) are you high if you are I want some cause that is some strong $hit!!! Judging by the talent behind avengers itll be lucky if it pass the 200million mark.

  • July 25, 2010, 4:03 a.m. CST

    What's up with Downey's hair?!

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    He looks like Chairman Kage. Nah, just joking. I'm wondering whatthe Avengers avenge exactly, though. To be an Avenger, there must be something you're avenging.

  • July 25, 2010, 4:20 a.m. CST

    The actors going to walk all over poor Joss!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    I can see the egos of RDJ and SLJ telling Joss how certain scenes should run and how to give them the best angles!<p>Seriously do people think Norton was the only one with an ego?<p>If Joss was an establish director like Nolan or even Jon Favure than maybe they would listen to him but man we're talking about RDJ and SLJ here and a c-list director.<p>WTF, do you expect to happen?

  • July 25, 2010, 4:58 a.m. CST

    Who'd have thought we'd ever see this? Wild.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • July 25, 2010, 5:07 a.m. CST

    @SCOTTPILGRIMFAN

    by conservativeandproud

    LMFAO!!!!

  • July 25, 2010, 5:09 a.m. CST

    Chris Evans Is Just Glad...

    by DutchRudder

    That everyone is so worked up about Ruffalo to remember that he already played The Human Torch. Haha.

  • July 25, 2010, 5:12 a.m. CST

    No Scarlet Witch

    by UtinniPuccini

    Just so we're clear, there's a legal reason Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver can't be in this: they're considered X-Men characters, and Fox currently still has the movie rights to them.

  • July 25, 2010, 5:20 a.m. CST

    Did Anyone "Boo" Ruffalo At The Con?

    by DutchRudder

  • July 25, 2010, 5:22 a.m. CST

    you can tell all the people not excited at this are DC fans

    by spider_neil

    the ambition of the avengers movie is incedible. they are taking the leads of several movies and putting them in one emsemble movie. that is incredible ambition and I for one applaud them for it. oh, I think batman 3 without ledger to carry it will be no where near as good as TDK, but we shall see.

  • July 25, 2010, 5:42 a.m. CST

    Talk about the wrong stuff?

    by RICHRATH

    Downey's on something? Rufalo looks lost? Feige and Whedon love puddings!

  • July 25, 2010, 5:43 a.m. CST

    I'm not that excited

    by UtinniPuccini

    And I'm a Marvel fan. But we have two unproven leads, one who's been replaced (which already ruins the much-anticipated "all-star" draw), and a director who has more fanboy appeal than actual demonstrated talent (and if he gets his hands on the script, you can bet it'll be filled with "witty" overly cutesy dialogue). I'll probably be more excited if the Chrises can pull off their roles in their respective movies. For now, I'm hoping for the best and preparing for the worst.

  • July 25, 2010, 5:43 a.m. CST

    Not exactly an electric ensemble piece?

    by RICHRATH

    This looks like a pie that just got stuffed!

  • July 25, 2010, 5:45 a.m. CST

    Whedon the blandest choice!

    by RICHRATH

    I will have more faith if Norton was attached...least it would feel like an ensemble piece!

  • July 25, 2010, 5:50 a.m. CST

    Just for a laugh.....

    by RICHRATH

    Imagine if RDJ and SLJ said Fuck it and left! Come on fellas, your all trained as actors...tear up those poxy contracts and fuck Feige in the ear!

  • July 25, 2010, 5:51 a.m. CST

    Ruffalo shows his Banner chops in COLLATERAL

    by Excelciyour

    Anyone doubting Ruffalo as Banner needs to watch COLLATERAL again, period.

  • July 25, 2010, 5:52 a.m. CST

    Ruffalo...you should be ashamed

    by RICHRATH

    Just coming off working for Scorsese and walking blindfolded into this unenchanted pube of a movie!!! Come On!

  • July 25, 2010, 5:53 a.m. CST

    Ruffalo is good but even he's worth more than this role!

    by RICHRATH

    Come on serious actors...leave the dumbasses to try and hold this travesty together!

  • July 25, 2010, 5:54 a.m. CST

    Pudding in a cup!

    by RICHRATH

    As Clint would say....the breathmint isn't making it!

  • July 25, 2010, 5:55 a.m. CST

    Feige puts the knob into butter...

    by RICHRATH

    and Whedon is the bitch that licks it!

  • July 25, 2010, 6:12 a.m. CST

    @SCOTTPILGRIMFAN

    by conservativeandproud

    LMFAO!!! ON FIRE!!!

  • July 25, 2010, 7:01 a.m. CST

    the cast couldn't be more mediocre and dissapointing

    by frg10

    Thor dude is one tall mother. Ruffallo acts as he were asleep all the time. The whole movie is on Downey shoulders. NO DIRECTOR (come on - Whedon? buehehe), NO EXCITING CAST and BLAND JACKSON!

  • July 25, 2010, 7:11 a.m. CST

    Movie **NEEDS** Ant-Man & Wasp!

    by -Halfscan-

    Can't stress it enough. Cut Fury and Widow down to a 5min "this is your mission scene" and keep them out of the rest of the flick and make room for Pym and Van Dyne. <p>I'll also add that nobody would be more perfect for Pym than Alan Tudyk

  • July 25, 2010, 7:22 a.m. CST

    What a bunch of whining bitches you lot are

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    So glad none of you nuffnuffs are making movies.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:23 a.m. CST

    when all is said and done

    by frg10

    in each and every action sequence each and everyone from the cast will be replaced by cgi model and all these cgi figures will be fighting mechanical robots in space for the last 25-28 minutes of the movie. Norton saw that and said "Fuck all of you! That's not what Brad Pitt told me to do with my acting life during Fight Club filming! Hell NO!"

  • July 25, 2010, 7:24 a.m. CST

    All of you tossers, come to Comic-Con

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    and say it to their faces. No? You'd rather hide in an AICN talkback and act like whiny little shits. I bet some of you are even the same person with multiple accounts, your desire to fling shit like a chimpanzee is so strong. Wankers.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:25 a.m. CST

    JOSS WHEDON "I WILL WORK FOR FOOD"

    by frg10

  • July 25, 2010, 7:26 a.m. CST

    JOSS WHEDON'S SERENITY RELEASED in 3D

    by frg10

    and used as a weapon of mass destruction against South Korea!

  • July 25, 2010, 7:27 a.m. CST

    JOSS WHEDON'S TALENT "I'm LOST!"

    by frg10

  • July 25, 2010, 7:28 a.m. CST

    JOSS WHEDON should be Red Skull

    by frg10

    with that face

  • July 25, 2010, 7:29 a.m. CST

    JOSS WHEDON - SPOKEPERSON FOR WAISTED LIFE

    by frg10

  • July 25, 2010, 7:30 a.m. CST

    JOSS WHEDON "BUT THEY TOLD ME ..

    by frg10

    ... at AICN that SERENITY was great so why I am to lick these balls for $5 to have for cheese sandwich?"

  • July 25, 2010, 7:31 a.m. CST

    JOSS WHEDON best friend

    by frg10

    ELI ROTH

  • July 25, 2010, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Ruffalo better lose some weight

    by davidwebb

    Not drastically, but the guy looks too buff to be Banner. Still not confident about Wheadon fronting this.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:33 a.m. CST

    THEY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN IT TO BAY

    by frg10

    Michael, at least it would be entertaining. But he wanted more than $10 for the job. Sorry.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:35 a.m. CST

    Downey "I should stay with drugs"

    by frg10

    after reading Avenger script and meeting with Joss Whedon. Nope, sorry - after meeting Whedon he marked his first suicide attempt.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:37 a.m. CST

    Give it to Verheoven!

    by RICHRATH

    Put lotsh of shex and violesch well isnhinit!

  • July 25, 2010, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Lets face it....

    by RICHRATH

    RDJ is doing it for the dollar (70% of his role will be in the Iron Suit) SLJ is doing it for the fans...just like he did for Mace Windu! Whedon's doing it cos' what fucka in Hollywood will give him a job... Gruffalo is doing it for the extra 2 for 1 and Fallafal R' Us

  • July 25, 2010, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Verhoven would be a dream come true

    by frg10

    but all the kids would left the movie damaged!

  • July 25, 2010, 7:43 a.m. CST

    does this mean The Hulk is going to have a Jew-Fro?

    by thatfilmlover

    I'm kidding.... kinda.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Can't wait to buy this film....

    by RICHRATH

    in the 3 for 1 bargain bucket at Kwik Save!

  • July 25, 2010, 7:57 a.m. CST

    To conservativeandproud

    by chiwrtr72

    Wow... so many idiotic comments in so little space. At least it explains your political alignment. Why don't you go listen to a Palin speech and leave this talkback to those with intelligence. Whedon has talent and a respect for the source material. I can't wait to see where this goes.

  • July 25, 2010, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Ruffalo is TOTALLY miscast for Banner!

    by Cervantes

    He's just not weedy enough... While I'm not going to miss Norton too much, I'd definately been hoping for a scrawney replacement to be the alter ego of the Hulk.<P>But then again, they have miscast Captain America too, so it's a mixed bag at best.

  • July 25, 2010, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Oh, and I was never too keen on the casting....

    by Cervantes

    ....of Jackson as Nick Fury either...

  • July 25, 2010, 8:10 a.m. CST

    This movie is a big dick with no cum!

    by RICHRATH

    The only ejaculated satisfaction will be the trailers in the beginning!

  • July 25, 2010, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Chris Nolan could kick Downey's ass

    by fassbinder79

    But seriously folks what is up with Downey's Nolan issues? I think he must suffer from "Nolan Envy." LMAO!!! PS Iron Man is a piece of shit. Inception and Dark Knight rule! PPS Who gives a shit about any of the Marvel flicks coming out when DC/Warner Bros has been mopping the floor with their asses with great work like the new animated Jonah Hex short, Batman Under The Red Hood, Dark Knight, Inception... And soon we will have Nolan's third Batman. The only other films I want to see this year are Tron Legacy (Disney) & Superman/Batman Apocalypse (The new Montgomery DTV effort for the WB). The rest of this shit is just filler. Its Nolan's world and we're just living in it.

  • July 25, 2010, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Jeremy Renner always a sniper?

    by viks

    S.W.A.T., 28 Weeks Later, and now Hawkeye?

  • July 25, 2010, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Forgot to mention The Spectre

    by fassbinder79

    The Warner Bros Spectre short included on the Justice League Crisis of 2 Earths disc is better than anything in Iron Man or any turd flicks Downey has been in recently (i.e. Tropic Thunder). I used to liked Downey as an actor but post Zodiac (his last solid performance) he has gone the way of Johnny Depp (and that isn't a compliment).

  • July 25, 2010, 8:29 a.m. CST

    Kurt Russell was born for FURY

    by RICHRATH

    Instead we get a poor man's Billy Dee Williams 'YYYEEEEE HHHAAAA!'

  • July 25, 2010, 8:33 a.m. CST

    JOSS WHEDON QUESTION

    by frg10

    WHY AM I STILL ALIVE?

  • July 25, 2010, 8:34 a.m. CST

    JOSS WHEDON QUESTION 2

    by frg10

    WHY WAS I EVEN BORN?

  • July 25, 2010, 8:34 a.m. CST

    JOSS WHEDON QUESTION 3

    by frg10

    BUT WHY WAS I BORN WITH THAT FACE?!

  • July 25, 2010, 8:35 a.m. CST

    JOSS WHEDON QUESTION 4

    by frg10

    AND NO TALENT!

  • July 25, 2010, 8:36 a.m. CST

    That new DC Universe Game Trailer

    by davidwebb

    If the Avengers can come anywhere near to that, then they'll have a success on their hands.

  • July 25, 2010, 8:36 a.m. CST

    JOSS WHEDON QUESTION 5

    by frg10

    WHY "MEDIOCRE" IS MOUNT EVEREST OF TALENT FOR ME WHICH I WILL NEVER ACHIVE?!

  • July 25, 2010, 8:39 a.m. CST

    go to Darkhorizons to read Rodriguez

    by frg10

    commentary about PREDATORS (the most dissapointing movie of all times!) sequel when he basicly exlplains why the movie looks like it does, like made in my backyard for my weekly pocket money when I was 12! Another talentless bitch!

  • July 25, 2010, 8:39 a.m. CST

    KEVIN FEIGE QUESTION

    by RICHRATH

    Why put a KEV in the AVENGERS Credits at all?

  • July 25, 2010, 9 a.m. CST

    I really hope this I good, A great Avengers

    by southafricanguy

    film would be amazing, but Im not sold on Whedon yet. Though I do think he is very good at ensemble stuff, and he gets characters very well, but Im worried about his ability to do amazing action set pieces. That being said this really is Whedons chance to step into the big leauges, and play with the big boys (Cameron, Nolan, Jackson, Spielberg etc...) in terms of his exposure as a name to the mainstream, and to getting huge budgets to play with...

  • July 25, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Scottpilgrimfan..dude, please dont take this as

    by southafricanguy

    an insult, and I am really not bagging on Scott Pilgrim as I know fuckall about it, but something being the hot of SDCC means jack and shit mt friend, so too was Kick-ass a year ago, and that didnt exactly set the world b.o on fire (not to say this wont, but it wont have a damn thing to do with SDCC), fanboys just simply dont have the sheer numbers to make a movie a "smash hit", without the mainstrean dialing into what you re selling, it aint gonna happen...

  • July 25, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Richrath, Russell as Hawkeye not bad either

    by leo54304

    but age, hair color against him. Physique, attitude and swagger with him. Could see him hitting the Widow like in the comics. This Hawkeye seems boring. Rewatch Escape from NY and you'll realize that Russell could do either role as Fury or Hawkeye. Agree with you better Fury than Jackson. The novelty has worn off.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Ruffalo is miscast, and that is the truth

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    After Eric Bana and Ed Norton, this is a MAJOR downgrade.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:11 a.m. CST

    One thing to add is that they should have had...

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    the guy who is going to be the villian in the movie appear near the curtains. Announce his name, the charactes name, and have him just stand there. Then leave. Nothing more.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Nobody is talking about Scott Pilgrim jackass

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    didn't viral marketers used to get banned around here? because that is pretty much what you are doing.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST

    I think Whedon will do just fine (and Im no

    by southafricanguy

    Wdedonite), besides as others have pointed out, youre not going to get any big name director to do the Marvel films with the lowball approach they re useing, so they have to rely on taking chances with talented directors with unproven b.o track records, or with action/fx films. Obviously this approach can really work (Favs or Raimi) or it can really fail (Ang Lee).Only time will tell if Whedon pulss this off, but Firefly/Serenity was pretty good, and more importantly, well written, so lets see what the dude can do...

  • July 25, 2010, 9:18 a.m. CST

    I'm not into redheads and Scarlett is a Piece..

    by conspiracy

    I don't care if your fetish runs to Chocolate BBWs...if you don't think, "Hmmm..I bet her Pink is as velvety as her tits are succulent" when looking at Scarlett you are officially fucking dead.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Enough..can someone explain Scott Pilgrim to me?

    by conspiracy

    I play games..I'm into the whole sci-fi,monster,action movie genre and I have NO FUCKING CLUE what Scott Pilgrim is other than an EMO targeted comic book...nor why should I care.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:33 a.m. CST

    industryKiller!

    by T 1000 xp professional

    Dude, you got me. lol I now remember my reaction reading the Danger Room and the idea of it was very interesting but that design was godawful and the Ord just wasn't memorable. Even with those negatives you mentioned about Astonishing as a series I still loved it as the whole was greater than the sum of its parts. The best thing we can all assume is that they're getting an already established villain for the Avengers instead of going with an original and I do hope Mr. Whedon has picked up a thing or two since...Oh, and I liked his Cyclops, I wonder if they'll be any similarities between his character and Cap America's..... I'd love to hear who people think should score this baby. That is one area that these marvel flicks are lacking. I'd love a great Avengers theme! How crazy would it be if Clint Mansell would get this gig!? Scorekeeper should weigh in his thoughts.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Wow, Chris Hemsworth IS pretty big

    by D.Vader

    Thats a good sign, him towering over the cast.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:36 a.m. CST

    The number 1 problem with him directing is

    by T 1000 xp professional

    is the same problem with any other director... This is a big fricking movie...Anyways, back to the score.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:41 a.m. CST

    "I AM GOING TO BLOW IT" WAS MY EXACT REACTION

    by BringingSexyBack

    when I saw Chris Evans in the pic.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Scott Pilgrim movie? Isnt that about

    by leo54304

    a homophobic boy who yearns after Michael Cera while hating himself?

  • July 25, 2010, 9:44 a.m. CST

    SCOTTPILGRIMFAN funny shit about Downey!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    I have to agree that what the geek was doing at Comic-Con! LOL

  • July 25, 2010, 9:50 a.m. CST

    So...with Chris Evans

    by REDD

    playing Cap, I guess there's no way they will bring the Fantastic Four into the mix? Maybe those movies are best left forgotten.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:55 a.m. CST

    The end of the comic book movie

    by raumohir

    This will be where comic book movies finally jump the shark. It has to happen some time. They're basically putting all their eggs into one basket with this one. People will be hoping to get their minds blown by seeing all the superheroes together in one movie. Then when it's not one of the best movies ever made (chances are stacked against that), people will shrug and be ready to move onto other genres. They won't feel the need to see any of these heroes individually again. And that feeling will start to carry over to the other superhero franchises as well. We've already got the epic single-hero movies, and we've got the genre-deconstruction movies like Watchmen and Kick-ass, and with this we'll officially have the "throw everything you've got at it" movie. That completes the box around the genre. And after it, many fans and critics will be saying "so that's the most you can do with superheroes." And while other superhero movies will still be made, the mystery and excitement of them will have past their peak and be on their way back down. You heard it first here.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST

    SCOTTPILGRIMFAN

    by geetar

    He's an ass, but.... That 'Vintage Downey' rant is very good. I don't know why people find RDJ so funny.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST

    AVENGERS RATED X

    by RICHRATH

    Looks like a porno for the Whedonites! This film will suck shaved balls!

  • July 25, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Evans' lack of blonde hair

    by Lemure_v2

    I do understand how you nerds need everything to be just like the comic, BUT if they're going to make a believable WW2 movie, then Evans' is going to look pretty fucking stupid with "Prince Charming" hair. Shaved is much more believable.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Avengers Vs Batman 3

    by Lemure_v2

    Interesting. Nolan beats Whedon as a writer/director, hands down. Batman 3 will look better too. It's all going to come down to villains at the end of the day. Avengers already has 8 big characters. That's a stretch for any movie.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:23 a.m. CST

    the punisher is back at marvel studios

    by ORIONgods

  • July 25, 2010, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Batman 3 versus the Avengers

    by KoolerThanJesus

    We know who will be the bitch in this match-up and it's not the dark, brooding guy in the cape.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Whedon and Penn

    by veritasses

    Given Whedon and Penn's body of work and the mountain of issues to contend with, the odds aren't great that this will be something awesome but I'm still hopeful. And I like the (potential of the) cast. To be fair though it's hard to imagine even the most talented director/writers pulling this off successfully. <BR><BR> No pressure fellas...

  • July 25, 2010, 10:48 a.m. CST

    if both Cap and Thor tank

    by 2007

    and considering the directors, that's a possibility, that would suck for whedon. poor guy always gets shafted.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST

    A lot of you should probably play the lottery

    by beane2099

    You seem so certain how bad something is going to be before the script has even been finished. That's amazing. Is it wrong to be excited by the possibility that this presents? Or has the disspointment of the Star Wars preuels forever colored everyone's view of film forever more? (As Mr Plinkett said, "after you walked out of episode II you learned never to trust your judgement or anyone ever again"). And comparing Whedon's comic writing skills to his directing skills is apples and oranges. Directing a movie is vastly different. Serenity is a great example of his capability and I think that was well done (especially for me as I never watched or cared to see Firefly). And I'm not sure that people have the know-how to distinguish a "good actor" from a "bad actor". They confuse the acting with a character who is badly written. Even RDJ has come off pretty badly in some of his earlier movies. So again all this overly negative or overly positive speculation is a waste of time. But that's just me. I won't impinge on others feelings of self worth if that's how they get their jollies. Now if you'll excuse me I have to go find the Cowboys and Aliens TB cause that is going to suck! Kidding. It's gonna be super awesome. Or not!

  • July 25, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST

    It is kinda weird knowing even against The Avengers...

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Bats will still own the box office and by alot too!<p>I'm willing to bet Nolan doesn't give a shit what Marvel does! He knows that planning and execution is the key and meanwhile he's sipping long islands and chiling!

  • July 25, 2010, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Only cocksuckers will see this movie

    by RICHRATH

    You want an Avengers movie...with pure heroes...go see the EXPENDABLES! Now that's a cast!

  • July 25, 2010, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Kurt Russell

    by scors54

    While I love the guy, he's fucking 60 years old. You guys get all whiney-bitchy in "Expandables" talkbacks about the geriatric hero crew, but then it's OK for Russell to be in this?? WTF, make up your minds--those of you who actually have them.And while we're at it, I see three Oscar nominees and a Tony award winner in that cast-mediocre talent? WTF are you guys smoking? I swear, some people just love to complain becuase they think it makes them seem just SOO cool. It doesn't. It just makes you sound like whiners.

  • July 25, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST

    nolan

    by 2007

    without the joker nolan is going to make another batman begins.

  • July 25, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Everyone has an opinion....

    by RICHRATH

    ...and at the end of the day..you can't teach Whedon to suck eggs...but you can teach him to suck cock...Feige is deluded with such a shoddy cast...the brits think AVENGERS is a joke!

  • July 25, 2010, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Hemsworth should've been Captain America

    by bigkinggorilla

    looking at that shot of the whole group, he's the only one who I can buy leading a squad of superheros because he is so physically imposing, Evans just isn't doing it for me

  • July 25, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

    scors54, Russell is too old for part but

    by leo54304

    would have loved to have him in the role back in his heyday. Should have clarified. Sorry.

  • July 25, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Ruffalo

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Rhymes with Buffalo. Which is where Rick James is from. Thus ...

  • July 25, 2010, 11:45 a.m. CST

    HYPERBOLE.... ASSEMBLE!

    by ISleptWithKathyBatesAndAllThatIGotWasThisStupidTalkbackName

  • July 25, 2010, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Whedon's strength is in ensemble casts

    by rbatty024

    I think he's absolutely the perfect choice to direct this film. I trust him to find the right kind of dynamic between these disparate personalities. The Avengers are in good hands.

  • July 25, 2010, 11:57 a.m. CST

    All those in favour of Whedon - Master Bates

    by RICHRATH

    The Avengers are in the worst wank hands possible...

  • July 25, 2010, 11:58 a.m. CST

    The Vision

    by thx185

    Hercules, and the black female Captain Marvel. Do it.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Movie is cool; But Joss is a big Douche

    by BlackBriar

    Renner and Ruffalo are going to be the best actors in the movie, no one really comes close, they will stand out the most in the Avengers film.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Respect

    by _Lizarkeo

    They did it for us, Marvel fans all over the world. Thanks for the effort. Now, see ya at the theaters in two years. Cheers!

  • July 25, 2010, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Film it in Pan and Scan?

    by RICHRATH

    Straight to TV!

  • July 25, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST

    alright Quint

    by deelzbub

    We east-coasters are ready for good quality promos for Walking Dead, Thor, and Cap!<P> quit bein' stingy!

  • July 25, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST

    FEIGE Haspimped out his 'fans'...

    by RICHRATH

    ...but we all have suckas for muthas if we line up at the box office for this shite!

  • July 25, 2010, 12:48 p.m. CST

    So were any questions asked afterwards?

    by Ribbons

    I'm guessing Feige tacked this onto the end of the Thor panel so there'd be no opportunity to voice their displeasure at Marvel's "firing" tactics. Good thing that the representatives from the movie websites have enough integrity to not just pretend it didn't hap-- oh wait.

  • July 25, 2010, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Evans was chosen for Cap because Marvel is cheap!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    and didn't want to pay for a decent actor! Everybody knows Chris Evan was no way their firs, second, third choice fo Captain America!<p>No fucking way!<p>With the firings of Terrance and Norton over contracts, Marvel is showing the world how cheap they really are!

  • July 25, 2010, 12:58 p.m. CST

    BTW, anyone who believes this is Joss movie has

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    shit for brains!<p>With all the ego on the casts and Marvel being cheap bastards, Joss will be lucky to find a place to jerk in peace!

  • July 25, 2010, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Darn, Marvel sure cut some corners with the movie.

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

  • July 25, 2010, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Whedon is writing it too...

    by Cartman86

    To the people who complain about Zack Penn. Whedon seems to be writing the entire film. Penn appears to be off the project. And you guys think Joss isn't a competent director??? Serenity is not only a good film creatively it is also fantastic technically. Episodes of Buffy like The Body, Once More with Feeling, and Hush are all great examples of his talent. Has he done anything at this magnitude? No, but no neither have Jon Favreau or Kenneth Branagh. Joss has shown he can work with ensembles. There should really be no worried about this other than the usual "Good things never happen to us so somehow this will all fuck up".

  • July 25, 2010, 1:04 p.m. CST

    FUCK THE AVENGERS MOVIE

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    "For people who care about the level of talent and about actual continuity within the universe, heh, yeah. No. You're fucked." <P> I agree...what a lifeless & shitty moment. I like Mark Ruffalo, he's excellent but let's face it - he's taking over for Ed Norton and the circumstances are 100% bullshit. Ed hasn't passed away suddenly or just backed out of the movie - on the contrary he was pumped and ready to go. However because someone at Marvel would rather hold a grudge, pinch pennies or is incapable of simply working things out like an adult Norton and his fans ended up fucked over. <P>The dark cloud cast over this movie by Marvel has dissolved all of my interest in this once highly anticipated project. Marvel fucked over Ed and way too many other talented people and most importantly us fans.<P>For me to blindly continue supporting whatever the fuck they feel like giving to us is ridiculous. <P>Fuck marvel and fuck their Avengers movie.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Cartman86, if you believe Joss will have sole

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    writing credit on this than you fucking lost it!<p>Joss might write something but this is Marvel movie, not Joss!<p>Joss better hope he can actually make it to the starting date before Marvel decides to fire someone else or "change" their minds!

  • July 25, 2010, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Art Adams did a great marvels poster

    by leo54304

    featuring the original marvel heroes on a NYC rooftop. The original x-men, Thor with a long handled hammer, Thing as he looked then. Included in the poster are the original marvel villains:Doom in his original armor, Skull in a green jump suit, Goblin looking really scary. And the enchantress looking like a dead ringer of Scarlett. Worth buying, its title is heroes&villains masterpiece. Look it up on the web and should be able to find it.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Also, Whedon was not a good choice.

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    Sure, he did good work on tv. Buffy was his baby. Great show. But even he faltered with it. Season 7 was terrible. As for Angel he pretty much let others be the showrunner. Firefly was alright. Dollhouse was..well..er..uh.. won't discuss that. <p> Yeah. I think he is a wonderful television director. Some good stuff. Just not a movie director. He should stick to television. Look at James Burrows. The man is constantly directing tv comedies yet you don't see him going for the big screen for a romantic comedy. Serenity looks like something that was made for television.<p> Too bad. I thought the Avengers could have been a good movie.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST

    I've already lost faith in Whedon

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    He has a nice resume....but he's already shown he doesn't have the testicular fortitude to stand up to Marvel.<P> How do you let the studio fuck with your all-star cast and jerk over fans and not say word one about it? <P>Fuck him too. Hollywood (much like most jobs) is full of pussies just watching out for their own ass and their own paychecks.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Mark Ruffalo doesn't look excited...

    by samuraiyao

    He is already in character!!! Wow I really like this guy!!!

  • July 25, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST

    I wonder what actors will have conflict with Whedon first.

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

  • July 25, 2010, 1:22 p.m. CST

    "Mark Ruffalo doesn't look excited..."

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    lol - true...maybe he was thinking some fans were going to give him a hard time.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST

    My bet Samuel Jackson will be the first have conflict with Joss!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    But I wouldn't doubt if its RDJ though!<p>Sad thing is Marvel will back them quicker than Joss because the actors has been bought and paid for!<p>Good luck Joss! Good fucking luck!

  • July 25, 2010, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Just call it "Iron Man and The Avengers"...

    by Thanos0145

    since RDJ knows he alone must carry this movie.<p>What's up with RDJ bringing up Chris Nolan? Perhaps, he would rather work with Nolan and his Batman3 cast than The Avengers one.

  • July 25, 2010, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Sentry would kick all their asses.

    by jimbojones123

    That is all. Oh, and will The Watcher show up?

  • July 25, 2010, 1:45 p.m. CST

    I ALSO AGREE THAT NORTON GOT HOSED

    by Darth Busey

    By all accounts, Norton acted like a primadonna on set of "The Incredible Hulk", and demanded to re-write scenes, etc. Personally, I think he probably saved that film from being worse than it could have been. I guess that kind of behavior isn't tolerated when the movie underperforms. But yeah, he should've been allowed to come back, and he would have made a great villain/character arc in "The Avengers".

  • July 25, 2010, 1:50 p.m. CST

    They mentioned Norton.

    by UMAGA

    Someone asked about him in the Q&A and a report said they quoted Norton's response saying the character was bigger than any actor or something. Fans booed. Sounded awesome.

  • July 25, 2010, 2:06 p.m. CST

    I hope they don't chnge the look of the hulk

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    I loved how he looked in IH, if they change him once again to look like jeff Ruffalo i'll shit my pants in fan anger

  • July 25, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST

    the character was bigger than any actor or something. Fans booed

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    lol - that's awesome. While it may be true that the character is bigger than any actor simply regurgitating Norton's comment as their defense almost demeans the actors currently putting in work. <P>Why not repeat Feige's original insulting & passive aggressive comment about needing an actor passionate for the role and able to work in an ensemble cast??? <P>Oh - because it was twat-like thing to say to begin with.

  • July 25, 2010, 2:13 p.m. CST

    just call it "IRON MAN and b-list actors"

    by frg10

    and hard-on Scarlett ... and borind Jackson

  • July 25, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Why would anyone want Hulk to be the main villain??

    by IndustryKiller!

    They should have exactly ONE Hulk fight, when they find Banner and bring him in, after that he needs to be on board and they need to move on to a real villain. Sure they should deal with his unpredictability in future struggles but I dont want to see a movie made entirely of Hulk fights. How can you people not see how inherently uninteresting and one dimensional that is. Hulk poses nothing but a physical threat, there no intellectual fight there. No deeper subtext. Just big guy trying to smash little guys. THat's a cool sequence, but you can't build a film on it.

  • July 25, 2010, 2:21 p.m. CST

    don't forget about3D

    by frg10

    the pseudo-crappy-we-will-convert-it-greatly 3D. So when they unleash the CGI masturbatory experience probably near the end of the movie, we will get all the cgi superheroes waving their super cgi penises in fron of our noses and poking us in eyes. I don't mind Scarlett.

  • July 25, 2010, 2:27 p.m. CST

    lol fuck this film

    by Kontarsky

    No Norton, no play

  • July 25, 2010, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Darth Busey

    by Ribbons

    From what I understand there was no "prima donna" behavior going on during the Hulk shoot. I don't know why people hear the word "difficult" and automatically make up all these insane stories in their heads, but that just makes Marvel's job easier. Norton got along fine with Leterrier and was ASKED to take a pass at the script before production began; the conflict between him and Marvel arose when it came time to edit the film and they got rid of some twenty minutes of dialogue that he wrote, and Zak Penn demanded sole screenwriting credit from the WGA. Even though final cut was not one of the things Marvel promised Norton in the contract, he was pissed off (understandably) and refused to do as much promotion for the film as they had hoped (less understandably). Several people who have worked with Norton in the past have implied he's difficult to work with at times, but "prima donna behavior" sounds like someone who throws temper tantrums, locks themselves in their trailer and asks for all green M&M's, which just isn't the case here, unless you know something I don't.

  • July 25, 2010, 2:31 p.m. CST

    fuck avengers and fuck Marvel...........fuck!!!!!!!

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    they fucked over Norton, they fucked over Howard...they tried to fuck over Favrau & SLJ, they fucked over fans...and chances are they'll fuck over another actor in the future. You could bet money on that........<P>SO FUCK THIS PROJECT, FUCK THOR, & FUCK CAPT. AMERICA.

  • July 25, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Great post on Norton, Ribbons

    by IndustryKiller!

    Do people just not understand English? No matter how many times you explain to people that rewrites were IN NORTONS CONTRAC, they never seem to care to understand and contimue to make it sound like Norton burst into Feiges office with a gun and demanded a script polish. Has Norotn been difficult int eh past? Sure, just like plenty of other great actors, THATS HOW ART GETS MADE, but in this case its a well documented fact that Marvel screwed him.

  • July 25, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Ribbons it's useless.......

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I agree with everything you said. <P>What you stated makes perfect sense and was presented in a clear and respectful manner....thus every single one of your points will be ignored by typical Norton hating TB'ers.

  • July 25, 2010, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Ruffalo's put on a few.

    by Triple_J_72

    Make no mistake, I'm excited as HELL about the Avengers, but... this casting decision makes no sense to me. Mark Ruffalo doesn't look ANYTHING like Bruce Banner. I just don't get it. Ah, fuck it, I'm so THERE on opening day! AVENGERRRRRRRRS ASSEMMMMMMM... BLLLLLLLLLLE!

  • July 25, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    "Ah, fuck it, I'm so THERE on opening day! AVENGERRRRRRRRS ASSEM

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    "Ah, fuck it, I'm so THERE on opening day! AVENGERRRRRRRRS ASSEMMMMMMM... BLLLLLLLLLLE!" <P> ^^ This is the reason Marvel is fine with fucking over fans. So long as they show up at the theater anyway who gives a shit right?<P> W A C K

  • July 25, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    I will not be seeing Scott Pilgrim....

    by Jobacca

    Because of all the hipster douchebags who have taken to the net to promote it. Seriously...it could be the greatest movie EVER,and because of you mouth-breathing retards I will never see it. I hope it fails horribly and you all go back to crying in your over-priced ironically named imported micro-brewed coffees. FUCK YOU SCOTT PILGRIM FANS!!!!!

  • July 25, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Mark Ruffalo

    by lead_sharp

    Looks lost in the woods, Chris Evans looks like a little boy and Chris Hemsworth looks like he can't be arsed. I can't help feeling that instead of Hawkeye we could have had Giant Man (Ant Man) and Wasp OR Miss Marvel. Or even Tigress, the team needs more female members cause frankly this is (as someone said) looking like the opening to a gangbang.

  • July 25, 2010, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Keep Loeb away from this.

    by skellngtn

    Every Ultimate thing he has touched has turned to shit. Hopefully he'll be too busy with the TV stuff to muck this one up any further. Plot is still secret, but since Cap suddenly has ties to Thor thanks to the sneak peek they gave, is there an Asgardian foe they could team up to fight after they fight the Hulk? Loki? Giants?

  • July 25, 2010, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Mark Ruffalo is a much better actor than Norton

    by reflecto

    Now as long as ScarJo doesn't fuck this up, they got a movie.

  • July 25, 2010, 3:15 p.m. CST

    And yes, the Pyms and Wanda need to be added

    by reflecto

    ASAP

  • July 25, 2010, 3:16 p.m. CST

    RUFFALO SOULJA!!!

    by Nerd Rage

    DREADLOCK RASTA!!!

  • July 25, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    OMG THERE WAS A STABBING AT COMIC-CON?!?!!?!??!?!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Someone check on Contipops!!!!! MJ_Corpse on the loose!!!!! The perps is MJ_Corpse!!!!

  • July 25, 2010, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Watching Serenity right now

    by strosmer

    First time seeing it. Never saw Firefly. 10 minutes in, opening credits just started up, and I'm ready to turn off this acted-shot-scripted-for-TV bullshit. Monochromatic blue cinematography, go away! Bland sets, go away! Ugh, fast forward to an action sequence. Ok, being chased by Reavers in a flying craft on a planet. Not displeasing, but nothing to write home about either. Fast forward to big space battle. Looks like every 3D animation project I saw attempted in college involving giant spaceships. Nothing original here. I know I'm sounding predisposed to hate Serenity, but I'm calling it as I see it. Don't try to convince me that actually sitting through the whole thing will enhance my appreciation for it either. There is TV, and there are movies. This is not a movie!<p>I'm as excited as any Marvel fan to see Avengers, but color me gravely concerned with Whedon at the helm of this project. From what I've seen just now, Joss has leaps and bounds to make as a cinematic director. Ang Lee's Hulk, love it or hate it, had great cinematic quality, including a riveting set piece with brilliantly composed action. I'm not saying hire Ang Lee for Avengers, I'm just pointing out that Whedon has no cinematic eye. God, now I'm just getting depressed. Whedon, step up your game, man. This is your Everest!

  • July 25, 2010, 3:30 p.m. CST

    marvels losing its marvels!!!

    by conservativeandproud

    WTF is wrong with marvel? Why would you hire directors who has less experience than directors of your previous and perspective franchises (i.e. Spiderman and the Avengers). Youre expecting something good to come from this. The new spiderman director only credit include 1 crappy romance movie compared to sam raimis long resume, SERIOUSLY!!! JOSS WHEADON whose a crappy tv director who relies heavily on overly witty pop culture references, with his 90210 like dialogue and crappy scifi channel movie of the week like directing. You guys must be high, who the hells running marvel willie nelson.

  • July 25, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Please work, please work, please work...

    by UltimaRex

    Yeah Shadow of the Bat will be better and do more box office but that's no reason why this can't be awesome. And if it is, we'll get JLA for sure! Please work, please work, please work...

  • July 25, 2010, 3:46 p.m. CST

    SCOTTPILGRIMFAN...

    by UltimaRex

    I am actually hoping you are some kind of plant now. Heaven help the people around you if you are not.

  • July 25, 2010, 3:54 p.m. CST

    strosmer

    by Ribbons

    "I know I'm sounding predisposed to hate Serenity, but I'm calling it as I see it." <br> <br> Well, since the cinematographer of that "shot-for-TV-bullshit" you're referring to was Oscar-winner Jack Green, yes, yes you are. Not that I don't have my own reservations about Whedon, but a little objectivity couldn't hurt.

  • July 25, 2010, 3:56 p.m. CST

    "Mark Ruffalo is a much better actor than Norton"

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    First that is just your opinion - and second what's your point anyway? <P> How about the fact that this is the 3rd recast of Bruce Banner in under a decade? <P> How about the fact that continuity has been tossed out the window?<P> How about the fact that Mark is just as likely to be recast as well as someone else from the team?<P> Would it be cool if another actor arguably "better" than RDJ were to replace him? Denzel Washington for example is better than SLJ in many respects - why not recast him as Nick Fury?

  • July 25, 2010, 4:03 p.m. CST

    THUN-THUNDA-THUNDERCATS OOOOOOAH!!

    by conservativeandproud

  • July 25, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Watching the Hulk on Screen is better than seeing Clowns.

    by ganymede3010

    You ask how can we take an entire movie with the Hulk as the antagonist? The same way we took a movie that showed corny villains with clown painted faces in every action scene. The Hulk is to formidable to taken out in one single encounter. I suspect many failures to apprehend him will be the focus of the story, thus the need to assemble a super-team to reign him under control. Besides, I'm sure the 3rd act of the movie won't involve them taking down the Hulk. Probably some other villain, or minions that Loki sends to fight the Avengers, by then, Hulk should be one of them, fighting along side of them, perfectly setting up the sequel.

  • July 25, 2010, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Denzel Washington should be cast as NICK FURY.

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    C'mon Marvel do it. <P>Denzels' the right age and is a better actor than Sam Jackson. Plus SLG wasn't really in the last 2 IM movies that much anyway. <P>Also Nick Fury is a bigger character than any actor.

  • July 25, 2010, 4:13 p.m. CST

    ED NORTON FOR NICK FURY

    by BringingSexyBack

    He aint got nothing else to do ...

  • July 25, 2010, 4:14 p.m. CST

    JOSS IS A GIRL'S NAME

    by BringingSexyBack

  • July 25, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST

    But the point is ganymede

    by IndustryKiller!

    Each of thsoe encounters, even if they use different strategies, will just involve taking on a giant melee centered beast. You talk about the ridiculousness of The Joker, but what makes him great is that he poses a greater intellectual threat to Batman than physical. Hulk poses no such threat. It's exclusively physical, every. single. time. Nor is Hulk a world threat. It should be someone like The Skrulls or, and this is my inner fanboy talking, Kang.

  • July 25, 2010, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Whedon Is A Great Writer/Director...

    by Media Messiah

    ...however, with Dollhouse, he forgot to give us a hero to cheer for. I think for a time, he was stuck in a phase with that series, where he put art over commerce, however, the smart artist knows that if you can blend the two, and find a balance, you win, and those whom you serve, your bosses, win. Dollhouse failed to be a commercial success because its main character, Echo, didn't have a voice in her circumstances to decide her present and future, or to judge her past, until it was too late for the show? She had no enemy to fight against, no villain for the audience to say, "Hey, that is the bad guy, watch-out Echo!" Further, along those lines, there was no enemy to measure herself, and heroics, if any, against? No, everyone was in a grey area...as per their motives, and reasons for being, and that robbed the show of tension, and rich chances at character development for the ultimate heroes, and villains of the show when they finally did emerge, the show paid for it, as a result--because instead of building an audience with a good vs. evil conflict, and a love story, from the start (the stuff of watercooler banter, for the public to spread the word about the show), we got a mentally impaired Echo, in-between her engagements--she had no conscious will of her own, for nearly two seasons of the show? The structure of the series was flawed from the very beginning, and that killed it. <BR><BR>Whedon should have opened the series with an Echo who was awakening, someone who knew her circumstances, and was silently plotting to free herself and others from their place in this mental slavery ring. <BR><BR>Hopefully, he has learned his lesson, and will not out clever himself with The Avengers, as he did with Dollhouse. I think the structure of Avengers will lend itself to a more poppy and open story, one that moves fast, like Serenity did, a film that is full of great writing, directing, intellect, and emotion. Whedon can write to that dynamic, as he knows how to build tension, and smart twists in plot, and warmth between characters. Dollhouse was a situation where he got overwhelmed with plot, and high-concept, and seemingly forgot about the human element, and became more intrigued by the concept, over character advancement/development, chiefly, with respect to his lead character who was to be the soul and heart of the series--but was emotionally and mentally absent until the final handful of episodes? As a Whedon fan, I still don't know how that happened other than, there where too many cooks in the kitchen. You see, I think that Whedon tried to make Echo his ultimate mystery, ala the island in Lost, or the mysteries surrounding the destination in the new Galactica, and that was his biggest mistake. You see, Echo shouldn't have been the mystery, no, it is the Dollhouse, and the people who created it, that should have been the mystery. Echo should have been our, the audiences, eyes and ears, our entry point character into that world, and the mystery that was hidden within, and without it.<BR><BR>If Whedon makes The Avengers, fast moving, and gets to the central plot points...hard and fast, in service of entertainment, then he will deliver the popcorn film hit (blockbuster)...that Marvel, and the fans, are looking for. Somewhere in there, will be found the opportunity to inject smart dialogue and a smart point of view, in service of art.

  • July 25, 2010, 4:20 p.m. CST

    DynoLAMEomite

    by Spawn0mite

    This movie is gonna suck

  • July 25, 2010, 4:22 p.m. CST

    so how about a reboot of...

    by disfigurehead

    Daredevil. That sucked.

  • July 25, 2010, 4:27 p.m. CST

    wow

    by godhelpus

    if you had told me this was happening when I was a kid in the 80s would have never believed it. mainly becuase the avengers always seemed second-rate in comparison to the X-Men or Fantastic Four. To me, the Avengers included Cap and Hawkeye, but also Vision and Scarlett Witch and Ant Man. The formula they are concocting died out in the late 60s because it didn't work. Now nostalgic revisionism says differently, pinning success on every team in every decade of their runs. Basically, they sould've included the Vision but perhaps we'll see him in subsequent stories. Also, how did they get Mark Ruffalo? He's a great actor, either he's desperate or they had a lot of ca$h. He presence raises the quality level of the movie. Hopefully, he might do his own Hulk movie.

  • July 25, 2010, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Good lord..

    by The War Against Giygas

    Why are there so many fucking trolls on here lately? Geez. Anywho, this movie is going to rule all super hero movies, period. If those pictures don't excite you in the slightest bit, you're an idiot. A complete retard. And you shouldn't be allowed to post on a talkback for said movie anymore.

  • July 25, 2010, 4:37 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper, Norton was a recast himself

    by reflecto

    Who gives a fuck about Louis Leterrier's Incredible Hulk and its cast? Not me and certainly not the majority of the viewing public. It was mediocre crap and it is viewed that way today. Clean slate the Hulk.

  • July 25, 2010, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Bottom line, poor lil Norton couldn't make the movie better

    by reflecto

    Not this one, and not the crappy one he made. Get over it.

  • July 25, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Ribbons

    by strosmer

    Admittedly, I should be more objective concerning the cinematography. I was watching it on a TV screen, and a non-HD one at that. I just don't like monochromatic blue. Regardless, the fact that Jack Green is an Oscar-winner doesn't change the fact that what I watched felt like TV, and not a movie. The new Doctor Who is gorgeously shot, but still views as TV, not a movie. I guess the point I was trying to make is you can't bring a TV mindset to a movie set. That's where my concern lies with Whedon as a movie director.

  • July 25, 2010, 4:49 p.m. CST

    reflecto

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    There's nothing to "get over" as I'm just speaking my mind. No lost sleep on my part. <P>Since I could give a fuck less about this shitty Avengers film I may as well talk about something that's related to it. <P> For the record, plenty of people liked the IH and Norton's protrayal. It's cool if you didn't like it or don't care either way.

  • July 25, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST

    So when do they announce . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    Adrian Brody being cast as Ant-Man?

  • July 25, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Here, have a tissue

    by reflecto

    The bottom line is that IH was not a very good movie and most of the world knows it. Ed Norton did not help it. Nothing helped it. It was a few mil away from SyFy original programming. <p> You are taking this shitty little movie so personally that you are taking it out on Avengers. That's your prerogative, but don't blame me if you're called out for illogical bias in the future as the run-up to the film begins.

  • July 25, 2010, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Oh I'm sorry...

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ...did something I say ruin your Avengers party? <P> "don't blame me if you're called out for illogical bias in the future as the run-up to the film begins.<P> Don't blame you, lol? I have no clue or care who you are. Near as I can tell you are just another internet cunt with low standards waiting in line for whatever Marvel and Hollywood sees fit to shove down your throat. You don't like what I have to say? Too bad ignore it and go about your way.

  • July 25, 2010, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Downey owned by Nolan twice

    by FlyingToupee

    I don't know why he has to continually bring up Nolan, it obviously bothers him that Nolan's TDK and now INCEPTION have outshined his two IRON MAN flicks as the event films of the summer. Too bad, as I like Downey and both IM flicks. But he needs to stop mentioning it. What's he gonna say in 2012 when BATMAN 3 ends up being better than THE AVENGERS?

  • July 25, 2010, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Whoops

    by FlyingToupee

    I see industrykiller made the same points as me much earlier in the thread. Anyway, I'm looking forward to THE AVENGERS and the other Marvel flicks even if Downey and the Marvel guys have a chip on their shoulder about Nolan.

  • July 25, 2010, 5:25 p.m. CST

    This is 90's Batman recast bad

    by Robots In Das Guys

    Mark Ruffalo? I like him, but Norton should have never been replaced. Fuck this shit. And what's with RDJ's constant flaming of Nolan? Did Nolan fuck his dog or something? Seems like he can't get over the fact that THE DARK KNIGHT made IRON MAN it's little bitch 2 years ago. And yeah, I love RDJ and IRON MAN, but he's still butt-hurt. You won't find Nolan playing this bullshit. That man's a class act.

  • July 25, 2010, 5:28 p.m. CST

    it obviously bothers him that Nolan's TDK and now INCEPTION have

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    "it obviously bothers him that Nolan's TDK and now INCEPTION have outshined his two IRON MAN flicks as the event films of the summer."<P> I totally agree...RDJ is awesome but he definitely has a huge ego. For me IM1 was cool...but IM2 flat out sucked. I wish I could get my money back for that one. But however you want it look at it Nolan's Batman Begins & Dark Knight were better films than either IM flick. Inception I don't know if I'd consider b/c it's an unfair comparison to a superhero movie.

  • July 25, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    i think that the hulk is very diffcult film to make..

    by emeraldboy

    here are some reasons as to why.... the fans dont like the tv show they think clunky and any studio who says lets make a remake of the tv show will incur the wrath of the fans who dont like it. so the studios didnt go the tv route. so they said lets make a film where bruce's dad created the hulk. guess what the fans hated that. so the studio said what to do. we will remake the film from scratch and we will put the leader into and the abomination into the mix. but again the fans didnt like and universal thought the film underperformed and put the franchise on ice. but then there is the avengers movie. the hulk gets recast again, norton has his fans and they are pissed off. marvel wanted an actor who would toe the line. and a director who would call all the shots.

  • July 25, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    raumohir

    by FlyingToupee

    You may be correct about AVENGERS being the end of the comic book movire. It either has the potential to be an amazing epic, or it could be the last hurrah. Kinda like Universal throwing all of their characters together in the Monster Rallies HOUSE OF FRANKENSTEIN and HOUSE OF DRACULA. Both were fun flicks and did good business, but they cheapened the brand considerably and ended the second horror cycle. The only thing left were parodies like ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN, which turned out to be better than the "serious" horror films that ended the cycle. If AVENGERS is a joke, maybe we'll get BEN AND JERRY STILLER MEET THE HULK, co-starring Cap, Thor and Iron Man(without Downey, who will have bolted at this point).

  • July 25, 2010, 5:38 p.m. CST

    disfigurehead

    by HapaPapa72

    A Daredevil reboot is a pretty cool idea, actually. I'm surprised Lord Nolan didn't jump at a crack at ol' hornhead rather than Superman.

  • July 25, 2010, 5:42 p.m. CST

    LMAO! "IH was not a very good movie and most of the world knows

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Most of the world? Really? Most of the WORLD?!?!? You're gonna go with that, huh? I thought you were a fucking idiot, but then you topped that lunacy (most of the fucking WORLD?!?!?) with this gem: "It was a few mil away from SyFy original programming." You're obviously insane on top of being an idiot. And talk about bias! Damn.

  • July 25, 2010, 5:49 p.m. CST

    "Whedon Is A Great Writer/Director?"

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    If we could just have a fucking moratorium on sucking Whedon's cock for five fucking minutes around this place, it would be a motherfucking biblical fucking miracle. The kind of shit that they write about and put into fucking clay jars for future generations to discover in fucking caves. That kind of fucking miracle.<p>But it's like some sort of fucking mental disorder with these fucking loons. JCD - Joss Compulsion Disorder, a disease that requires one to constantly bring up Joss Whedon, a decent director and good writer, and tout him as the GREATEST DIRECTOR EVAH and the BEST WRITER IN DA HIST'RY OF DA WORLD!!! I'm starting to see you motherfuckers in the same light as those sad, sad, sad fucks on "Hoarders" and "Intervention."

  • July 25, 2010, 5:50 p.m. CST

    And, yes, I understand Whedon is directing...

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Avengers. That just gives you an excuse to jerk off in public, not a reason.

  • July 25, 2010, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Marvel's new slogan:

    by Al Delvechio

    Make Mine Mediocre!

  • July 25, 2010, 6:11 p.m. CST

    whedon at least knows something about comic books.

    by emeraldboy

    and he has shown that he can do an ensemble pieces both on tv and in the movies. this site loved buffy and angel. and firefly. the first two hulk movies were not ensemble movies and only required a lead actor. norton and bana were getting movies to sell overseas. people knew who they were.

  • July 25, 2010, 6:18 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper

    by RPLocke

    Inception hasn't outshone Iron Man 2 at all. People seem confused by Inception, but they said they enjoyed Iron Man 2. And Iron Man 2 did stellar box office, and we don't know if there will even be an Iron Man 3, so get off your Nolan high horse for a minute.

  • July 25, 2010, 6:46 p.m. CST

    RPLocke - The Bicycle Sharer

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    Ironman 2 was rushed out S H I T....pure and simple. The story was a bore, the pacing was way off, the action was either non-existent or a noisy incoherent mess and Cheedle ended up being a bad choice after all. It had cool moments here and there but that's about it. Nothing about IM2 left me looking forward to Avengers and that was while I still thought Norton was on board. If you would have read what I wrote more carefully I said I wouldn't even compare Inception to any superhero film b/c it doesn't seem fair. It's like apples and oranges.<P> @ The Bicycle Sharer - I totally agree that asshole with his hyperbole and "most of the world knows it" trollish bullshit is just a bitter twat.

  • July 25, 2010, 6:47 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper

    by RPLocke

    Norton was never on board Avengers. Where the hell did you hear that?

  • July 25, 2010, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Jesus Christ...

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ...are you drunk? I'm referring to the period of time where it was thought he might still be on board before the news broke that he was definitely out.

  • July 25, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST

    HOT_WHEELS

    by Spawn0mite

    I hope they make Hot Wheels from these movies so I can look for them every day and then sell them to my fellow Mexican friends.

  • July 25, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Spawn0mite

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    LoL

  • July 25, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST

    I don't know who these people are

    by detectivesoap

    besides RDJ, and I don't care. Close your eyes and just imagine what Norton and RDJ together in this flick would've been like. It's like putting DiCaprio and Depp in the cast of G.I. Joe for an "ensemble cast". Get the fuck out of here. I've been looking forward to this movie my whole life and there's a bunch of little kids next to Downey. Who is Iron Man gonna respect? Baby Cap? How will audiences believe this? Banner isn't supposed to look like the Hulk by the way, you dumb studio fucks; Ruffalo looks like he should be serving me gyros not working in a lab. Oh, and fuck Joss Whedon a million miles away from this film. He's directing because his mind is a wrinkled and dead teenage girl... fucking teenybopper; the studio thinks they can catch all the 13 year olds with this prick. This movie deserves a fucking SPIELBERG. This is one of the greatest institutions in an entire ART FORM NOT A FUCKING EPISODE OF BUFFY YOU CUNTS!!! I will have my complete verdict after I see Thor. It better be fucking Jesus Christ doing trapeze work, though this still won't prevent Gloss Wheezin' from getting his buttshots in later on. Fucking faggots. RDJ and Norton forever, (fuck.. Branagh should have BEEN Thor)...ARRRRRGHGHHH

  • July 25, 2010, 6:55 p.m. CST

    I'm giddy about grown men in tights.

    by Spawn0mite

    OMG those guys are sooo oo o . . hot. Makes me wish I was back in the NAVY before they kicked me out. I loved those men.

  • July 25, 2010, 6:57 p.m. CST

    JLA

    by Spawn0mite

    I remember telling people on the internet that they were going to make a JLA movie. I just love the relationships played between the various strong men in spandex.. . mmm...men. . . love 'em.

  • July 25, 2010, 6:59 p.m. CST

    detectivesoap....u da man.

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    excellent post

  • July 25, 2010, 7:01 p.m. CST

    detectivesoap

    by Spawn0mite

    You suck. Seriously. Nothing but anger from you. It turns me on. Spank me daddy.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Inception hasn't outshone Iron Man 2 at all.

    by FlyingToupee

    Yeah, it has. It's second weekend has around a 30% drop, which means excellent legs and great word of mouth. IM2 had big drops in both weekday grosses and subsequent weekends. INCEPTION will probably end up outgrossing IM2 even though it had a much smaller opening weekend.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:11 p.m. CST

    FlyingToupee

    by Spawn0mite

    Even though I think Leonardo is super dreamy hot, I still like Iron Man 2 better because of WarMachine. Much like a Twinkie, I really enjoyed who filled the suit. . immensely.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:13 p.m. CST

    FlyingToupee

    by RPLocke

    Lol, where did you get those figures? Iron Man 2 made 600 worldWIDE and it's in dollar theaters now. Inception passed 100 mil in a week, that's struggling to me.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:18 p.m. CST

    I'm sure they'll be discussing IM2 in film schools years from no

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ...while Inception will be forgotten because it didn't make as much money.<P>Wait...actually no, box-office aside that's ridiculous because Inception is a thought provoking and memorable psychological thriller and IM2 is a forgettable POS.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:20 p.m. CST

    this off subject but...

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    guys, check out my Inception spoof at www.fumpdibbidy.blogspot.com

  • July 25, 2010, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Iron Man 2 really wasnt that good...

    by Jobacca

    And it pains me to admit that. It was nowhere near as good as the first one. Maybe it was rushed,maybe they just got lazy,but it just didnt work and it made me wary about future Marvel Movies. I expect Thor to be awesome,Captain America to be crap,and The Avengers to be...OK. We shall see....

  • July 25, 2010, 7:25 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper

    by RPLocke

    I'm sure Inception will be discussed, but people will be more interested in talking about Dark Knight, because TDK made more of an impact on film.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:27 p.m. CST

    I think capt. america and thor could go either way

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    they could be okay or crap...avengers though is doomed.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST

    INCEPTION'S STUCTURE IS OLD, CONCEPT IS BRILLIANT

    by MrFacety

    What was the big deal about inception. It was a typical outside-inside chase film. Characters go to a sleep state and enter said inside (alternate) world where they are pursued by an organized threat. They can escape this alternate world by waking up. Wasn't this in Avatar and the Matrix.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:39 p.m. CST

    INCEPTION got it right

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    matrix went really bad after part 1 and avatar while fun had many issues.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Elseworld's Kingdom Come

    by AxeEmAll

    If there is one wild card DC has in this, it is how they end the JLA movie someday. And it has the potential to top anything that Marvel would put out there, including the Avengers.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:49 p.m. CST

    lmao at Joss Whedon haters...

    by MJohnson

    Am I really going to have to listen to your juvenile, barely literate ranting until this movie comes out? Here, I've got an idea that'll save us all a lot of grief. Just shut your moronic, know-nothing pie holes the fuck up now. It's a win-win for all of us.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:50 p.m. CST

    Inception passed 100 mil in a week, that's struggling to me.

    by FlyingToupee

    Um...ok. Let's see. IM2 is a the sequel to a giant hit from two years ago. It was expected to break the record on it's opening weekend, and outgross the original film. What happened? It opened to 128 million dollars, which is great, but nowhere near the record. It had terrible legs, and word of mouth was just ok. It had a second weekend drop off of 60%. It struggled to reach 300 million dollars, and has grossed less money than the first film, even with adjusted ticket prices(and the second film opened on IMAX scrrens throughout the country with the higher ticket price). INCEPTION opened at 62.5 million dollars. This was for a film that is complicated and has no appeal to children. It had tremendous weekday grosses, and now has a second weekend of 43.5 million. It's second weekend drop off was only 30%, which means the word of mouth is tremendous. It now has 143,663 million dollars in domestic grosses. It held off it's main competitor, SALT, which opened at #2. It will continue to have good holdovers and, at the end of it's run, will at least match IM2's gross of 310 Million dollars without a front loaded opening weekend. Only a Marvel fanboy could think IM2 is more popular and better received than INCEPTION, which is proving that good filmmaking and smart scripting will always triumph over empty spectacle.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Whedon

    by OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW

    Whedon knows comics and he knows ensemble casts. I'll give the benefit of the doubt until it sucks.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Oh man, why Scarlett Johansson?

    by FoolishFool

    I mean, I get it, she's very attractive. But her only acting "talent" consists of her staring at things. She has no charisma, and no presence whatsoever. There's no way that she's going to be able to hold her own in Avengers, and it's going to be awkward and embarrassing watching her try. In short, I've got my fingers crossed that she'll be magically replaced before Avengers starts shooting, but there's no way that will happen, which is disappointing.

  • July 25, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Iron Man 2 vs. Inception

    by OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW

    All of you, stop talking about dollars, you nerds. You're making the rest of us nerds look bad. Iron Man 2 sucked. I haven't seen Inception yet. If I see it and it doesn't suck, then it wins. *pushes up glasses*

  • July 25, 2010, 8 p.m. CST

    FlyingToupee well said

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ....though truthfully I don't look at box-office too much either way. sometimes crap does well, sometimes it flops and vice-versa with great movies. Nice to hear Inception is doing well though.

  • July 25, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST

    FlyingToupee

    by RPLocke

    Iron Man 2 made over 600 world wide. Hardly a flop. It's made more than 300 in the US ALONE. What did Inception do the first weekend in the US. It barely made 70 mil.

  • July 25, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Marvel > DC

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    But Inception > Marvel

  • July 25, 2010, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Also, Salt bombed hard.

    by RPLocke

    It's audience is for females who couldn't even sustain Sex in the City 2 for more than a week.

  • July 25, 2010, 8:04 p.m. CST

    The Hulk isn't a stupid character at all...

    by ganymede3010

    <p>The Hulk uses brains and brawn to dispose of his adversaries. Example; when the US Army tried to utilize Stark's repulsor technology against the Hulk he realizes that walking straight into it wasn't going to work, so he uses two large sheets of metal to shield himself until he could get close enough to dispose of the radar-guns.</p> The Hulk also used Brains to take out the Abomination. He also realized that he was no match in a head to head fight with him. That's when he activates his "Hulk-Smash" ability to take the ground underneath him. Then he proceeded to put the chain around his neck so he could choke him out. You're sadly mistaken if you think the Hulk is stupid. The Hulk will be a great villain, he'll be 1000 times more exciting and formidable than the Riddler ever could, or will be.

  • July 25, 2010, 8:04 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper

    by FlyingToupee

    Thanks. I agree that box-office doesn't always tell the whole story.

  • July 25, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST

    I'm Hardly a Marvel fanboy

    by RPLocke

    I thought IM 2 was average, too, but then again, I think Thor and Captain America look hammy.

  • July 25, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST

    RPLocke

    by FlyingToupee

    No one said IM2 is a flop. It did well. I actually enjoyed it for what it is. But there's no question that expectations were for the film to gross around 350-400 Million dollars domestically. It would have if it was received with more enthusiasm. Most people thought it was just ok.

  • July 25, 2010, 8:27 p.m. CST

    thats what I heard about IM 2 also.......

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ...that it was just okay. Even with my expectations lowered I didn't like it though. I'd still be curious where an IM3 would take things though.

  • July 25, 2010, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Comparing Inception to a comicbook franchise is wrong!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    IM2 damn well better gross more tahn Inception considering its a know comic-book character(vs Inception)! And its a franchise meaning sequels!<p>Inception is doing very well and probably in the end will come close to IM2 numbers and thats good considering some thought Salt was going to bury it and it didn't!

  • July 25, 2010, 8:45 p.m. CST

    I am very happy that Thor ...

    by I Max U Mini

    ... is at least taller than everyone else. Fox screwed the pooch when they made Wolverine tall(ish) and Cyclops short(ish).

  • July 25, 2010, 9:04 p.m. CST

    African-American stabbed someone?

    by DioxholsterReturns

    Black Panthers? lol

  • July 25, 2010, 9:05 p.m. CST

    The Infinity Gauntlet in Thor!?

    by EastcoastAvenger

    No joke. Another website has a pic from the con. As Comic-Con comes to an end, the studio decided to reveal a key prop - a secret weapon - from the Thor movie! Before the unveiling, an announcer at the booth asked the crowd to "prepare to witness" the Gauntlet, announcing that it will make an appearance in next summer's Thor.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Very happy right now.

    by Yelsaeb

    Cast is good. Director is good. Most other important stuff is good. I think this might happen. But Rufallo needs to loose some weight and geek up a bit.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Could Thanos be the big bad in Avengers?

    by EastcoastAvenger

    Marvel, Please don't introduce Thanos before properly introducing Silver Surfer to the Marvel movieverse.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:16 p.m. CST

    The Infinity Gauntlet is from The Avengers

    by RPLocke

    Not Thor.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Arthritic, syphilitic, but raped goat with a stutter playing Ban

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Would not bother me at all, why? Because i am paying to see the mother fucking HULK not Banner.So stop the fucking whining.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:36 p.m. CST

    I just wanna know...

    by Detective_Fingerling

    is Hawkeye's costume going to be purple,blue and masked. Or are they just going to skip the history of the character and turn him into Ronin right off the bat so they can make his costume all black?

  • July 25, 2010, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tast es

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    first you are whining about others supposedly whining...which is ridiculous. <P>"i am paying to see the mother fucking HULK not Banner." <P>awesome for you...so have fun paying to see your "mother fucking hulk" - what does that have to do with anyone else expressing opinions or having discussions?<P> Chill.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Great, but where's Harry's Inception review?

    by DJEagles11

  • July 25, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST

    SCARLETT_JOHANSSONS_BREAST_MILK

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    get off my dick you bitch fuck you ass wipe cunt your dick smells like man meat

  • July 25, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Just about what I expected from one of the biggest whiners on this thread. And ScarJo beat me to the point. All you have done is whine like a bitch slapped bitch about Norton. Yeah, great actor, looked awesome in the green makeup. Oh, wait a minute he did not actually play the hulk he played the whining Banner. So yeah, if you want to see the incredible Banner, but all means keep Norton. Those of us who want to see the MOTHER FUCKING HULK could care less if M. Night himself was cast. <p> So Chill.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Justice League

    by Dawhiteguy

    ASSEMBLE!!! I was once a fan of the Marvel movies being made. Now I feel like they are leading up to a Marvel vs Avatar camp fest. I am on the DC side of the cinema future of "you know". HollywoodHellraiser, Inception is comparable to a comic book, but most of all to anime. It just felt so much like an anime movie. Anyways. I can see comic book versions of inception down the road. It is also one of the best ensemble pieces i have seen in awhile. Green Lantern should be bad ass, because I am sure Martin Campbell will not stitch Hal's mouth shut.

  • July 25, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    actually.......

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I've just been messing around with you guys. I can't wait for Avengers. <P>It should be awesome.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Detective-Hope they go with the purple tights

    by leo54304

    Just has a swashbuckler look which Hawkeye is. Ever read the issue where he took on Deathbird solo? Really showed Clints skilsl and cockiness. Forget avengers issue it was in but drawn by Bryne and inked by Green. Really beautiful to look at.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:02 p.m. CST

    AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!!!

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    this<p> movie<p> will<p> R O C K!!!<p>

  • July 25, 2010, 10:08 p.m. CST

    LoL!

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    Can't believe you bought that! <P> FUCK MARVEL & THIS WHOLE DAMN AVENGERS MOVIE - IT IS GOING TO SUCK!!!!!!!!<p><p> NORTON!<p> NORTON!<p> NORTON!<p> NORTON!<p> NORTON!<p> NORTON!<p>

  • July 25, 2010, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Quote from fat rancor the hypocrite troll about himself

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    "...another internet cunt with low standards waiting in line for whatever Marvel and Hollywood sees fit to shove down your throat. You don't like what I have to say? Too bad ignore it and go about your way."<p> Could not have said it better myself<p> Chill

  • July 25, 2010, 10:14 p.m. CST

    2 on 1 eh?

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I like those odds.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Too many character Scarlett will be the downfall

    by leo54304

    Solo hero/villain movies have better track record than ones with multiple participants as far as quality. Besides the avengers you got Sam Jackson eating up screen time. Better to have gone with the big 3: CA/IM/Thor equals more quality time for each action wise and interaction too.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tast es

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I'd copy and paste something you said as a BRILLIANT comeback too but thus far you've said absolutely nothing creative or remotely interesting.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Mystery Men had big cast and it rocked hard

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    One of the best super hero movies that is overlooked by fanboys.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:20 p.m. CST

    leo54304

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I think the team needs a few female heroes too.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:21 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Neither have you. But you did speak the truth about yourself so embrace the words ya back pedaling hypocrite.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:22 p.m. CST

    I have no faith in The Avengers movie

    by DioxholsterReturns

    if iron man 2 was any clue is that those types of movies dont work

  • July 25, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Right about Mystery Men Kobe but

    by leo54304

    That was comedy (and well done I add) but the avengers is to be this big serious movie event so I'd put Mystery Men in a different category. Glad you reminded me of Mystery Men. The auditions in the backyard still make me smile.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Hey_Kobe

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    you failed at the internet tonight and whats sad is you don't even know why.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Rancor, you're right but who?

    by leo54304

    Don't like the widow. Personally I'd like she hulk. You know her origin. Just have Fury introduce her and say shes part of the team.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Ms Marvel is fine too Rancor

    by leo54304

    Origin is a problem. Could go with air force intelligence officer only survivor of an expedition investigating a downed spacecraft in jungles of SA.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Yeah Leo, MM is a great movie

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    But Avengers can easily go one of two ways. A) The X2 route with Downey as the Alpha Dog ala Wolverine. or B) X3 with with a clusterfuck -although that was the directors fault mostly.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:32 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    No, the sad thing is you actually think any of this matters and that someone could succeed or fail on an anonymous talk back. That is sad and pathetic and a total failure on your part.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:32 p.m. CST

    if iron man 2 was any clue is that those types of movies dont wo

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I agree that IM2 was a bad sign.....<P>I actually think that an ensemble team can work in theory, it's just very difficult to pull off. <P>There are so many variables and considerations. For the Avengers film there are going to be clashing styles and tones that mesh well in the comic universe but will be difficult to balance in the world of cinema. The X-Men films arguably functioned well enough on this level because many of the key characters had shared histories and were fundamentally similar in numerous ways.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Asset of Ms Marvel no cape while flying

    by leo54304

    Only time Hollywood got capes right when flying was with Reeves.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:35 p.m. CST

    leo54304

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    she hulk always seemed like a spoof character to me. I like her though for what she is.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Unfortunately Rancor with time limit for movie

    by leo54304

    those clashing styles and personality conflicts will be minimal in screen time for movie to focus on fight scenes. Nice post by the way.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:36 p.m. CST

    MOVIE WILL SUCK FANBOYS

    by Spawn0mite

    I will be first in line when that happens. Obama '12

  • July 25, 2010, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Spoof is right but when in the avengers

    by leo54304

    written by Stern she became more interesting as well as in the FF. It was when Bryne had her speaking to the reader that I lost interest. And the past years havent been good to her either.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Spawn - the World ends in 2012 didn 't you see the movie?

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Aint gonna be no Barry in '12

  • July 25, 2010, 10:39 p.m. CST

    thanks leo54304

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    It's a shame but I don't see it happening. Especially with the absence of Norton. I was really looking forward to this film but the closer it gets the less likely it seems like it'll end up being any good. There are far too many obstacles and things that can go wrong.<P> Even with Norton I'm not sure this project would have worked.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Obama 2012

    by Spawn0mite

    Gonna be a good year. Avengers and MORE of my Obama. I can hardly stand the thought of all the NEW Hot Wheels I will have between now and then. MEXICANS will all be legal too. May need to change the movie to "Los Vengadores" in 2012.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Los Vengadores

    by Spawn0mite

    En el momento en esta película sale, el español será la lengua sólo es aceptable en los Estados Unidos y los idiotas que hablan Inglés tendrá que pagar más para ver a Los Vengadores en subtítulos en Inglés.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Same here with bad vibe

    by leo54304

    Just too much going against this movie and concept. Concept being a live supers team movie. Xmen movies worked because they have similiar origins and carry over well to the screen. Budget and special effects were budget killers either.Avengers is a different beast entirely.

  • July 25, 2010, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Gotta go guys, take care and chat tomorrow

    by leo54304

  • July 25, 2010, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Correction: effects WEREN'T budget killers. Sorry

    by leo54304

  • July 25, 2010, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Didn't realize RDJ was doing a Robert Evans biopic

    by Rob0729

  • July 25, 2010, 10:57 p.m. CST

    who wants to see harry almost cry?

    by brabon300

    http://tinyurl.com/29aa892

  • July 25, 2010, 11:13 p.m. CST

    For those of you still crying about Ed Norton

    by Rob0729

    You should have bought 30 tickets to The Incredible Hulk when it was in theaters. The movie was a box office disapointment which means Marvel wasn't going to put up with his attitude because his involvement or lack there of will not affect the box office of this movie.<br><br> The fact of the matter is most movie goers were or weren't going to see this movie whether Norton was in or not. Only a small handful of the potential audience of this film even cares. And a decent segment of them will see the movie anyway.<br><br> The general movie audience only really care about Robert Downey Jr. since he was the only actor ever involved in this movie to open at least one movie to good numbers with a character in this film. <br><br> I've always liked and respected Norton as an actior, but the guy is one of the most self-destructive actors in Hollywood and I don't doubt his ego played a big role in him getting replaced. I personally will not be swayed to go see this movie either way based on his involvement. It will be based on how good or bad the trailer looks and any buzz. In my lifetime, I have already been through 6 James Bonds, 4 Batmen, and 5 John Connors (if you count the future John in the original Terminator and The Sarah Connor Chronicles TV show). I think I can live through three Bruce Banners (Bill Bixby was David Banner and a totally different backstory so I will ommit him).

  • July 25, 2010, 11:13 p.m. CST

    love the internal worlds you people create

    by oisin5199

    "too much going against this movie"?! In whose head? What's going against it besides what's in your imagination? So there was a dust-up over casting. It happens, movies survive. Idiot fanboys just create this supposed negative hype before a script is even complete. And I can't believe people are already putting Avengers up against Nolan's 3rd Batman film. Two films that aren't even done with their scripts yet! As if Dark Knight and Iron Man were even remotely comparable. Two very different movies in different genres with different styles, with different themes serving two different purposes. But because they both happened to be based on superhero properties from rival comics companies, that's the point of comparison that fanboys stick to. I don't expect Avengers or Batman 3 to have anything to do with each other. I'll enjoy both, I'm sure, for completely different reasons.

  • July 25, 2010, 11:20 p.m. CST

    BTW

    by Rob0729

    I really liked the latest vactorss of at least James Bond and Batman. There is over two billion dollars with of ticket sales backing up that others agree with me on those characters. So saying that character the actor is going to ruin the character and/or movie doesn't hold a lot of water.

  • July 25, 2010, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Sam jackson to be replaced by James Earl Jones

    by RPLocke

  • July 26, 2010, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Infinity Gauntlet pic

    by Monolith_Jones

    http://tinyurl.com/37n7cp5

  • July 26, 2010, 12:23 a.m. CST

    ????

    by brabon300

    i dont get the connection

  • July 26, 2010, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Mark Ruffalo for Hulk?

    by Jaka

    Had that been announced anywhere previously? I don't know - first I've heard of it. But damn, that actually works for me. And I have to admit all of them standing there together looks pretty bad ass. Well, I'm still not sold on Evans. Particularly standing next to what appears to be a giant playing Thor. But I'm more interested than I was before. May even make an effort to see all the characters films leading in to it. Will that even be necessary? Or this going to be it's own thing.

  • July 26, 2010, 1:08 a.m. CST

    wheres the Batman 3 discussion?

    by DioxholsterReturns

    thats the only superhero that matters.

  • July 26, 2010, 1:18 a.m. CST

    avengers = loki/hulk

    by ORIONgods

    avengers 2= thanos avengers 3= skrull

  • July 26, 2010, 1:20 a.m. CST

    SALES OF ASSBEADS SKYROCKET

    by JaimeFoxx

    since the announcement of the Avengers cast! Jewish community in uproar!

  • July 26, 2010, 1:42 a.m. CST

    Saw Scott Pilgrim tonight

    by IndustryKiller!

    Really blew me the fuck away. I was excited about the film at first, but my passion waned as time went on and it seemed to be getting cuter and cuter. Loved it in the end though. Going to see it again Tuesday. Color me shocked.

  • July 26, 2010, 1:53 a.m. CST

    Rob0279

    by Ribbons

    What's with all the numbers talk? Some people say they don't get nerds "crying" about changes to this and that; I say I don't get nerds obsessively quoting financial reports. What does any of what you just said have to do with whether or not people like the decision to replace Norton? "Well, Marvel made sure all their bases were covered fiscally before pulling the trigger on their contract, so I guess I applaud their shrewd business sense?" Fuck that. <br> <br> And for the record, your James Bond analogy is flawed since the entire series was rebooted, not just one actor replaced.

  • July 26, 2010, 2:13 a.m. CST

    Ribbons

    by RPLocke

    Bond didn't need to be rebooted. They've been making the same stories for years. I see Casino Royale as a new Bond with a black and white flashback to show how he got his double o status.

  • July 26, 2010, 2:27 a.m. CST

    RPLocke

    by detectivesoap

    Reboot Royale was about Bond learning to fuck wimmen harder and less lovemakey, according to popular reviews. The next one up (after that awful flashing South American water disaster peice of garbage) will feature "heartless Bond" and be called Goldfingered, and then of course its Thunderballs.

  • July 26, 2010, 2:33 a.m. CST

    I think the Norton question is irrelevant at this juncture

    by detectivesoap

    Lets get back to...whats with all the fucking B listers? You do realize they're planning another GI JOE right? I mean, that's gonna be it. The payoff. Why doesn't everyone demand excellent writers directors editors. I for one am going Kaufmann/Herzog/Schoonmaker on this one. What?

  • July 26, 2010, 2:35 a.m. CST

    Rocco is right on point

    by AntoniusBloc

    No Vision? No vision.

  • July 26, 2010, 3:49 a.m. CST

    RDJ looks like Bill Bixby

    by hallmitchell

    Get him to do both roles. Hulk and Iron man!

  • July 26, 2010, 4:10 a.m. CST

    a couple of things

    by frg10

    Inception had great opening weekend and amazing 2nd weekend despite competition. It stands with $143 at domestic and it will go much futher and you can already call it commercial success in the body of art which doesn't happen very often. iron Man 2 was hyped too much, I think there were even thoughts of it coming near Dark Knight. It did good money when you consider hopes about IM2 coming near TDK or it did very good money if you think about it's worldwide gross and numbers just. I don't see any reason compering both these. IM2 was front loaded though and it's weekly drops were big comparing to the first movie and that's always a sign that something doesn't TICK as it should.

  • July 26, 2010, 4:12 a.m. CST

    Scarlett just staring at things

    by frg10

    someone wrote that and I agree, but I still take hot ass chick who stare at things as acting way to Kirsten Dunst :) that is one ugly skinny bitch!

  • July 26, 2010, 4:34 a.m. CST

    Stan Lee should direct

    by RICHRATH

    Might as well have the geriatric vision as opposed to the whedon penis head vision

  • July 26, 2010, 4:38 a.m. CST

    how will they change the Hulk CGI?

    by Excelciyour

    after the Hulk 2003 backlash (biggest 1st weekend to 2nd weekend earnings drop in cinema history) it was decided to go with a more sinewy, less green and more gray Hulk look in 2008. Now that Mark "I Was Badass In COLLATERAL" Ruffalo is in does that means we see a change in the Hulk CGI as well?

  • July 26, 2010, 4:51 a.m. CST

    It's not the Avengers

    by Hornet

    without Ant-Man/Giant-Man and the Wasp

  • July 26, 2010, 6:24 a.m. CST

    I love how people give Norton shit....

    by Shermdawg

    ....for rewriting Hulk, when RDJ flat-out admitted to doing the same in several interviews for the first Iron Man. He was all like "it was garbage, I didn't want to do it, I balled up the script and did it my way".

  • July 26, 2010, 6:27 a.m. CST

    Inception is one of the greatest movie of the decade

    by DioxholsterReturns

    iron man 2 is one of the greatest disappointments of the decade

  • July 26, 2010, 6:59 a.m. CST

    Considering we're only seven months into the decade...

    by Shermdawg

    ...that's not saying a lot.

  • July 26, 2010, 7:01 a.m. CST

    Whedon as director...

    by KiwiMetal

    It's been interesting reading all the opinions on the Avengers announcement. Wow - some interesting comments. Good and bad. However, they main thing Whedon has got going for him is a) He knows how to handle a Good ensemble cast with top notch back stories/characterization (Think Buffy and Firefly) and B) he has had a few guest gigs writing for various comics so has a decent idea how both mediums work. Being able to give every cast member (and Marvel character) the ability to shine in this movie is going to be the key to success or failure.

  • July 26, 2010, 7:16 a.m. CST

    OUR GUYS AT AICN MUST BE HAVING A GREAT TIME AT COMIC-CON

    by BringingSexyBack

    Cuz they sure as shit ain't working and providing us with tasty updates and cool vids.

  • July 26, 2010, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Would like the Pyms too but

    by leo54304

    How would the audience and team members be able to see and hear them? Thats whats holding those two back from the big screen. My choices for the Pyms if in the movie would be Emily Blunt for the wasp. Hank would be played by David Duchovney. Yes, I know the hair issue but that didnt stop Craig from being a great Bond. Duchovney could do a great Pym I think. He would the total opposite of the driven Stark, just be the laid back scientist type.

  • July 26, 2010, 7:43 a.m. CST

    sexy AICN is having an offsite mgt meeting

    by leo54304

    At the corporate places I've worked that usually meant an afternnon on the golf course following by drinking at the bar. Officially they were "working" but we knew better.

  • July 26, 2010, 8:10 a.m. CST

    It is Strange

    by Aquatarkusman

    I'm semi-nerdy, not much in the comic book vein, and when I think Avengers I think Diana Rigg. It doesn't really have the same resonance as "Justice League of America" (thanks to 70s and 80s cartoons), which means I think downplay the title.

  • July 26, 2010, 8:23 a.m. CST

    I like Ruffalo a lot...

    by Phimseto

    ...I just hate it when they recast roles. I was really looking forward to Norton in this.

  • July 26, 2010, 8:25 a.m. CST

    Avengers without the Pyms?

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Really? No Ant Man or Wasp? Then who ARE all those people in the lineup? Hawkeye, Hulk and WHO else? Shee-it

  • July 26, 2010, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Ribbons

    by Rob0729

    I will reveal a harsh reality to you. Studios do not make $150 million blockbusters to appease a small segment of comic book geeks who obsess over every detail. They make the movie to open the movie with a $100 million weekend. They don't really care about the guy who complains because the X-Men aren't wearing their original costumes or Thor's hammer is too big or Ed Norton isn't in Avengers. If you cannot deal with this harsh reality, stop going to blockbuster movies.<br><br> Another harsh reality is most movie goers don't care that Ed Norton isn't in this movie no matter what they think about him as an actor. Ed Norton has zero boxoffice appeal no matter how good of an actor he is. He has never even had a modest success in a movie that was sold on his name alone. <br><br> Another harsh reality is that Norton has a long history of being difficult. This isn't just made up. He is an ass. It may be for good reasons to make the movie better, but he still is someone that few people want to work with. If he was an A lister who could open a film, then he would work. <br><br> My overall point is that the viewing public has spoken and the general reaction was people didn't care about Ed Norton's Hulk. That means that Marvel wasn't going to put up with his bullshit. If The Incredible Hulk was a boxoffice success, they would have. That is the fact of life.<br><br> As for James Bond, forget Daniel Craig. How about Pierce Brosnan who was a great Bond until the source material got tired? Besides I think the current Bonds are not that much different than most of the other Bond movies as people make them. I would say Daniel Craig's portrayal of Bond is closer to Sean Connery's than most of the other actors who played Bond.

  • July 26, 2010, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Shermdawg

    by Rob0729

    Personally, I have never given Norton shit for rewriting. In fact, the studio allowed him to rewrite the script. I give him shit for acting like a baby and intially refusing to promote the movie because they cut a scene he really wanted in the movie. RDJ never did that. RDJ although had input, would never had caused problems if John Favreau overruled him about a scene in the movie.

  • July 26, 2010, 9:38 a.m. CST

    HOT WHEELS on Avengers

    by Spawn0mite

    Does anyone know if there will be Hot Wheels from the Avengers movies? I sell toys from my folding table at a local toy show. Thanks.

  • July 26, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Yes, but who will play the Hulk after Ruffalo gets the boot?

    by HawtSauce

  • July 26, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Rob is absolutely right. No one IRL cares about IH or Norton.

    by reflecto

    And Inception has just as much of a B or C-list cast - JGL, Ellen Page, Tom Hardy, Watanabe etc while talented actors are all either up and coming or character actors. Doesn't matter because it's a great movie. Same talent level with Avengers, except people want to whine because it's not all A List. All A List was never going to be affordable or feasible realistically, AND Ed Norton hasn't been A List for awhile. That's why he did the lackluster, mediocre, already forgotten by general public Incredible Hulk.

  • July 26, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST

    That whole Brosnan affair was a mess

    by leo54304

    He wanted next movie to rely less on gadgets (Like Connery did who quit over it), promoting items and a say in the stories. Studio said no and dropped him under the pretense of being too old. Difference between Norton and Brosnan as Rob079 nicely detailed is that Norton has no box office clout but Brosnan regarding the Bond franchise did due to his financial success with the role. If I got anything wrong with post feel free to correct me.

  • July 26, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Looks like SMALLVILLE on the big screen.

    by Subtitles_Off

    At least they cast some kids with pectorals. I love the tin-foil Thor helmet. Had one exactly like it, made out of plastic, when I was seven. Robert Downey, Jr., is pointing at something in that photo. Is it his escape route?

  • July 26, 2010, 10:08 a.m. CST

    War Machine?

    by Alkohal

    So what happened I thought Cheadle was signed on to reprise War Machine in the Avengers and yet not even once was he mentioned.

  • July 26, 2010, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Lage cast = mini-missions?

    by kevred

    One way they could make the large cast work would be to do what's occasionally been done in the comics, and have the team split off into pairs, each sent somewhere in the world to handle a specific part of the big crisis. Could make for a lot of good character interaction without the challenge of doing it with a big crowd of heroes. I can't remember the exact storyline where I first saw this, but it was fairly early on. I recall Black Panther and maybe The Vision taking on Ymir. pretty sure I have it in one of my Marvel Essentials collections at home.

  • July 26, 2010, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Thoughts on War Machine

    by kevred

    War Machine always kind of struck me as being like Venom or Carnage - a completely unnecessary invention motivated by some tacked-on desire to make completely classic characters more "badass", which only geeks care about. Cheadle would add a little bit of diversity to the processdings, though (not counting Sam Jackson, who's pretty much a novelty just playing himself, unless he takes it up a notch).

  • July 26, 2010, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Iron Man 2 was unredeemably bad

    by kevred

    Loved the first one, but 2 stunk. RDJ seemed almost desperate in it, and not intentionally. It almost worked for a moment with the Howard Stark bit - almost one moment of actual emotion in the film - but even that ended up silly with the map business. All in all, it got everything wrong the first one got right.

  • July 26, 2010, 10:52 a.m. CST

    They Need a Good WTF Moment in the Avengers

    by Aquatarkusman

    Something to take us out of the dreary reality-based stuff and into giant planet-eating stuff. I think a nice big green CGI dragon with the voice of Chris Tucker could fill the bill.

  • July 26, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST

    No Ant-Man / Yellojacket / Wasp

    by NippleEffect

    so no 2 hrs of *Hank hit Jan* like Marvels been replaying for oh going on 30 years now<p> They had to finally kill Jan to get over it<p> Every couple episodes of The Avengers it'd be brought or or the scene replayed

  • July 26, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST

    How do I get shit for stating Marvel fucked over Norton......

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ......but the same 2-3 people who have been needlessly giving Norton shit since day one get a free pass? "If he was an A lister who could open a film, then he would work."<P> Okay so now Norton isn't an A lister??? <P>Mark Ruffalo however is an A lister though who can open a film right??? LMFAO!<P>First Norton IS an A lister...second stop with the tired "can he open a film argument." I saw IH opening day to a jam packed theater with about 10 friends. People were fucking loving it & cheering. We came out pumped for Avengers, unlike when we left IM2. <p>Okay the movie didn't do as well as Marvel liked but you talk like the movie didn't have a fan in the world. Go to google and you'll see the movie got more critical praise than the first Hulk and is listed as making more money. But again....I have no interest in debating dollars, it's fucking BORING and you are just going to claim your own boring set of numbers. <P>Also - Changing actors for a lead role for the 3rd time is hardly "obsessing over a small detail"...especially considering RDJ appeared at the end of IH to directly link up the franchise. <P> If you guys honestly feel like you are getting a better movie without Norton, and don't give a shit about continuity or the excitement of seeing Ed & Rob together on screen for the first time than whatever - enjoy Avengers whenever the hell it comes out. But don't sit there and deny Norton didn't get fucked over. If Kevin Feige and Marvel cared about continuity and fans they'd have worked out any differences. Clearly Ed was already the bigger man from his commentary and the fact that he was openly ready to start shooting. To deny that Marvel looks like the grudge holding cunts in this makes you a cunt yourself.

  • July 26, 2010, 11:07 a.m. CST

    NORTON IS ONLY REALLY SUITED TO PLAY A PSEUDO-SCHIZOPHRENIC

    by BringingSexyBack

    Every other role he's done has been bland and dismissable. I mean, he was out-acted by Marky Mark in The Italian Job ferchrissake. Granted, I haven't seen Keeping The Faith, but it's not like any of y'all have been bringing it up as his personal The Godfather. LOL <P> Anyway and in summary ... Norton got dicked over, but he wasn't great to begin with as Banner and the movie sucked, it's common knowledge that he's a Naomi Campbell level diva and so his ouster is inconsequential to all but a few. That about sum it up?

  • July 26, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST

    The only thing larger than Scarlett's rack is Chris Evans' arms!

    by Snake Foreskin

    He makes Hemsworth look puny! What the hell?

  • July 26, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST

    OH HOW I LONG TO COME OUT OF A MOVIE PUMPED, RANCOR

    by BringingSexyBack

    I envy you so. Closest in recent memory was (500) Days of Summer, but I was more euphoric than pumped. Methinks Green Lantern, Captain America and Thor shall remedy the situation.

  • July 26, 2010, 11:29 a.m. CST

    CHRIS EVANS SHOULD TITTYFUCK SCARJO WITH HIS ARMS!

    by BringingSexyBack

  • July 26, 2010, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Pym would..

    by subfreq

    Be visually awesome in a film. Would allow the story to go down to the Micro level during battles and the counter point/rivalry with Stark could be awesome depending on the casting.

  • July 26, 2010, 11:30 a.m. CST

    A PROPER AVENGERS MOVIE WOULD COST $1 TRILLION

    by BringingSexyBack

    I fear disappointment lies ahead.

  • July 26, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

    THE_CHOPPAH

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    thanks!

  • July 26, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    Are you female or a ghey dude?

  • July 26, 2010, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Can we Whed-out Joss Whedon?

    by TheMark

    I loved the remark earlier about how he's a fanboy fave with really no proven skills besides making tv shows with 'snappy' dialogue that get cancelled halfway through the season. Whoo! Color me excited!

  • July 26, 2010, 11:37 a.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper

    by Rob0729

    First of all, until we even know how much Bruce Banner is even going to be in the movie, this bitching is useless. What if Norton was only going to be hired to do a cameo? Is the film going to be ruined because it doesn't have 5-10 minutes worth of Norton? <br><br> Second, this is an Avengers movie, not a Hulk movie. It isn't like they are doing a Hulk movie with another actor. Based on the box office of the first two Hulk movies, we won't see a third one unless they go low budget where Norton would be replaced anyway.<br><br> The fact of the matter is The Incredible Hulk did worse box office than Ang Lee's Hulk. Just because your theater was packed opening day and everyone loved it doesn't mean the movie was a success. <br><br> Norton may have gotten fucked over or he may have fucked over himself. To claim you know what really happened is bullshit. Norton could have met with Marvel and Whedon and demanded more screen time, disagreed with the direction of his character, or whatever. To claim he is an innocent victim is too ignore his long history of being an on the set diva (no matter if his intentions were good). <br><br> My overall point stands. Few of the target audience for this movie cares about Norton. That is why Marvel won't be putting up with his attitude this time around. Is he a better actor than Ruffalo? Yes. Will it really ruin the movie if he is not there? Who knows without even seeing a script to see how much Bruce Banner is in the movie?

  • July 26, 2010, 11:39 a.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack, you may be right about budget

    by kevred

    But the sceret weapon may be a long-forgotten tool, virtually unheard of in Hollywood for ages, called...good writing. A good script and good story can overcome a lot of budget issues. Here's hoping they're smart enough to get one, or your prediction may prove true.<p>Your comment reminds me of the old Monty Python sketch, "Mr. Neutron", where the cosmically cataclysmic finale to the story ends up being a breathless narrator describing what could be happening, if they hadn't run out of money and the BBC could afford to film it.

  • July 26, 2010, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Regarding the new Hulk casting?

    by TheMark

    I think I just blew my Mark Ruffaload. Guess who just got their new porn name?

  • July 26, 2010, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Probally no classic avengers mansion

    by leo54304

    Grew up with it in grade school and all the years since. Had such a classic brownstone look to it. Was perfect for a supers team. Remember the maps they had of it in the marvel handbook which made it even more cool.

  • July 26, 2010, 11:49 a.m. CST

    RANCOR - NEITHER

    by BringingSexyBack

    Are you hitting on me?!?!

  • July 26, 2010, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Marvel has jumped the shark if they include

    by leo54304

    DD and Ghost Rider in the next avengers movie. I know they won't but if they do..

  • July 26, 2010, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Rob0729

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredible_Hulk_%28film%29 IH - <P>"The film out grossed its predecessor and received generally positive reviews. Despite this positive reception Marvel chose to put off a possible sequel until after 2012's The Avengers....As of April 6, 2009, the film has grossed $263,427,551 in worldwide box office and it made $58,448,280 in DVD sales, bringing its total film gross to $321,875,831."<P> Anyway - like I said I could give a crap less which movie did better, Ang's version sucked ass regardless.<P> Your point about Norton potentially only being in the film for a short time makes no sense though. If it's such short screen time I'm sure they could have manned up & dealt with the horrible venom spewing, horn sprouting, primadonna devil incarnate from hell for 1 day of shooting right?<P> Anyway - we can agree to disagree - that's cool. I never said Norton was 100% innocent btw...I do however believe Marvel & Kevin Feige are way more at fault and have acted atrociously toward Norton and have been indifferent toward fans. I know you don't think fans care - I think they do. Maybe just some. I happen to be one of them that doesn't like a company shitting on talented people and disregarding their own supporters and fans. "Few of the target audience for this movie cares about Norton." No offense but unless you show me documented research you are just making stuff up. superherohype however had a poll up for several days when this went down and it showed the complete opposite of what you claim - many fans cared. again....we can agree to disagree.

  • July 26, 2010, 11:53 a.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    LoL

  • July 26, 2010, 11:59 a.m. CST

    KEVRED

    by BringingSexyBack

    That's an excellent point, of course. Money alone doesn't make a film great. Surely you need a great script, director, team and cast. Do we have that in this case? I'm not qualified to say. I don't know barely anything about this Josh Wheddon fella. <P> Is the cast stellar? They COULD be. They are all solid actors, Hemsworth well included. But as RDJ proved with the wild differentiation of his performances in IM and IM2, it does boil down to script and direction. But it's a given that the movie will need some great effects and shots to work and that will take money. I don't want it to be another FF. <P>

  • July 26, 2010, 12:05 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper

    by Rob0729

    Why doesn't the cameo for Norton not make sense? Maybe Marvel was willing to put up with him for a week or two, but Norton started to give script notes that expanded the Banner role to make him a focal point. The sticking point may be that Norton was not willing to do a cameo and wanted to be a focal point.<br><br> As for the two Hulk revenues, I should have said domestic grosses. But when you factor in production and marketing budgets, Norton's Hulk barely made money. <br><br> As for people caring about Norton, a movie like this has to have a target audience that includes ids (who probably don't even care if RDJ returns as long as there is a a lot of cool action scenes) and people who know next nothing about the characters. Even many of the "comic book geeks" are divided on this where some think it will ruin the movie and some think it is no big deal. A very large segment average target audience will go to the movie if the trailer looks good. The fact of the matter is people went to see Batman Forever eventhough Val Kilmer replaced Michael Keaton who at the time was thought to be unreplacable. Hannibal did $30 million more domestically than Silence of the Lambs eventhough Julianna Moore replaced Jody Foster as Clarice Starling. Those are two pretty strong pieces of evidence alone that people won't care about Norton.

  • July 26, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Rob and Rancor thanks for acting like adults

    by leo54304

    over your opinions regarding Mr Norton. Others could take a lesson from you two.

  • July 26, 2010, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Right on, kevred.

    by Subtitles_Off

    But I'm afraid IRON MAN II will look like a comparative masterpiece next to CAPTAIN AMERICA and THOR.<P>I love the guy above with his "movie-going public" spiel, RE: Ed Norton and HULK. Mark Ruffalo is a terrific actor, too. He ain't gonna put any asses in seats for a second-rate superhero story.<P>There's only one ensemble superhero movie that would have a hope of playing well to an audience outside of your local comic book store: KINGDOM COME. At least that one comes with iconic characters attached to it. And you don't have to spend twenty minutes on a sub-plot explaining some stupid "Cosmic Cube" or "Infinity Gauntlet" nonsense.

  • July 26, 2010, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Love or hate Whedon

    by leo54304

    gotta give him credit for taking the helm of this big a movie. This challenge is greater than the ST and Bond reboots because a movie like this has never been done. And if it doesn't meet financial expectations another one never will.

  • July 26, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST

    leo54304

    by Rob0729

    You might want to wait until our discussion turns into childish name calling before you commend us. I give it four or five more posts. ;-)

  • July 26, 2010, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Subtitles_Off

    by Rob0729

    Never said Ruffalo would put people in the seats. Personally, I don't even know if Robert Downey Jr. is critical to the box office success or failure of this movie. Ever hear the term in sports "rooting for laundry" where fans root for their team no matter who is playing and how many stars are let go in free agency? I think this a rooting for laundry type of movie where people are going to go to see a ton of superheros and action and the actors are just there. Sorta like Transformers. Do you think people won't go see Transformers 3 because they replaced Megan Fox? Do you think they wouldn't go see it if Shia Lebeouf was replaced?

  • July 26, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Also

    by Rob0729

    The only reason I bring up the box office is only to say that the ticket goers reaction to Norton's Hulk has shown that Ed Norton isn't a deal breaker for this movie. People who saw the movie may have liked him in it, but he wasn't enough to draw enough people in to make that movie a hit.

  • July 26, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Thor will fuck your skulls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by crackerfarmboy

    You know it's true.

  • July 26, 2010, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Have at thee then my friends!!

    by leo54304

    But until the namecalling starts, its been an interesting discussion to follow Robo729.

  • July 26, 2010, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Point well taken, Rob.

    by Subtitles_Off

    For the life of me, I can't think of a single legitimate reason &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>anyone &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br>goes to see TRANSFORMERS, anyway.<P>But, I still think AVENGERS already has three strikes it has to overcome: the three two-hour-each advertisements that will have already been seen and already dispelled any of that "rooting for the laundry." IRON MAN II, the first of the three, was ruined by the addition of all the AVENGERS nonsense, and it didn't have any of its own legs to stand back up on.<P>I could be wrong - we'll all see. I think you over-estimate the desire of people to see a screen full of superheroes. Or, maybe I over-estimate the fatigue that is settling over the idea of seeing any single superhero at the cinema.<P>You have to agree there aren't nearly enough females on that stage at Comic-Con. I'd think, that alone, puts it well out of Joss Whedon's wheelhouse.

  • July 26, 2010, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Team Norton vs Team Marvel, you decide

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Four of those seven review blurbs, Pilgrim,

    by Subtitles_Off

    sound like definite insults.<P>Maybe you shouldn't direct people's attention to Rotten Tomatoes. Only the semi-illiterate let that site influence their own judgment, anyway.

  • July 26, 2010, 12:46 p.m. CST

    The Pyms

    by dahveed1972

    They could introduce Pym as sort of a Q type behind the scenes guy. Strictly secondary character. Maybe a scene or two to show his jealousy of stark and cap and to set up his dysfunctional marriage. He decides to test out a new invention on himself, but a distraught and/or drunk Janet (maybe he cheated on her)uses it on herself. all of this could just be hinted at throughout the movie and left to the sequel. The Wasp can get more time in the 2nd movie and Black Widow could return to SHIELD/IM3 with more screen time.

  • July 26, 2010, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Subs is right

    by MacReady452

    he's always right<p>and hot<p>super hot

  • July 26, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Subtitles_Off

    by Rob0729

    By this point next year, there could very well be a superhero backlash. Hollywood is really watering down the genre producing any comic book hero they can get the rights to.<br><br> The Avengers is Marvel's version of the All Star game. I think that will be enough to make it a box office success. It doesn't guarantee it being a good movie though.

  • July 26, 2010, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Downy has the Robert Evans look down

    by donkingkong

    He needs a Winston dangling in one hand, and a Vodka Gimlet in the other. Boy he does have that swinging 70's cosmopolitan dandy vibe down to a science though don't he. I think he really became Tony Stark by way of Hugh Hefner.

  • July 26, 2010, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Kisses, Mac.

    by Subtitles_Off

    You're only right half the time.<P>I &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>AM &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br>hot.

  • July 26, 2010, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Well thats the important part

    by MacReady452

    David Lee Roth told me so.<p>If you don't look good doing it...<p>...it aint worth doing.

  • July 26, 2010, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Same here, Scott. UHOH has hell froze over?

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Whedon

    by dahveed1972

    He loves to plant little seeds early on that dont pay off til much later, so this might be up his alley. Also, for Hawkeye to be of any use whatsoever, they may need to give him a little something in the superpowers dept. Maybe a touch of the supersoldier serum, since it was also used for Hulk/Abomination. If you hated the Ultimate stuff, this may not be your thing. But a sharpshooter, who uses a freaking bow and arrow, doesnt really belong on the Avengers in this pseudo-reality that Marvel has established.

  • July 26, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST

    OK, Pilgrim. If it's gotta be, it's gotta be.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I'm an Edgar Wright fan, with no rooster in that chicken fight.<P>I'd rather this be The Year of The Pilgrim than The Year of The Expendable.<P>All things considered, I'd rather this be The Year of Anything Else Except Those Two With The Probable Exception of Inception.

  • July 26, 2010, 1 p.m. CST

    SUBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by Six Demon Bag

    good to see you on the boards..

  • July 26, 2010, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Dahveed, partial yes on your ideas

    by leo54304

    Scientist in first movie, hero in a sequel maybe as I don't think Hulk will be in 2d one and Thor, Widow are going to be iffy. Again problem with Pyms is they're insect sized heroes. Works in the comics but not onscreen. My choices for replacements would be Luke Cage and Ms Marvel.

  • July 26, 2010, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Rob0729

    by ColonelFatheart

    "The Avengers is Marvel's version of the All Star game." <p>Excellent way to phrase it. This, though, is the reason why I really can't care about the movie. All-star games usually have moments of flash, sure, but they suck as examples of the sport. I'd rather have the Game 7 of the World Series of superhero movies.

  • July 26, 2010, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Well put, Col.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I'm not surprised. I'm just sayin.'

  • July 26, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Hi yerself, Sixies.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I've been on the boards.

  • July 26, 2010, 1:14 p.m. CST

    you know me subs..

    by Six Demon Bag

    i dont get out much..

  • July 26, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Way Marvel is portraying Banner now

    by leo54304

    I can see a lot of Nortons version of Banner. Bruce now has a bit of chip on his shoulder. More of a bad attitude chess player with regard to dealing with the supers. He doesn't trust them after they tried to get rid of him and I can't blame him. Problem for Banner is the ones who tried to get rid of him are necessary to keep the world safe.

  • July 26, 2010, 1:24 p.m. CST

    i have something to say about all this

    by lostboytexas

    dogfart!

  • July 26, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Yeah. Looks like Marvel blew their wad on the cast

    by MacReady452

    maybe they got these back door shenanigans with multi-picture deals and shit. You know Downey will be in it for like 2 seconds and then it will just be the suit. ScarJo will do...nothing. Glad to see Hawkeye made the cut.

  • July 26, 2010, 1:32 p.m. CST

    discuss

    by lostboytexas

    Kevin Corrigan >Mark Ruffalo

  • July 26, 2010, 1:32 p.m. CST

    I agree with lostboytexass. Sound and fury...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...signifying nothing...and smelling of its own excrement and roadkill. <P> A fresh breeze will easily dissipate the problem, but your good comforter may never be the same.

  • July 26, 2010, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Louis C.K. is directing the Avengers?

    by ebonic_plague

    Maybe there's hope for it after all! <p> All I know is, they need to introduce Pootie Tang as the newest Avenger.

  • July 26, 2010, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Great points, BringingSexyBack & Subtitles_Off

    by kevred

    So very many ways to get films like these all wrong. Here's hoping everyone is a the tops of their games - effects included - on all of these films. The potential for these folks is terrific. But then, so was the potential for, say, the Matrix sequels. :)

  • July 26, 2010, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Edward Norton: A-Lister or not?

    by Blanket-Man

    Of course, the term 'A-lister' is completely subjective, but I have to say if he's not A-list material, he's right on the cusp between A- and B-List. He's like a younger John Malkovich - viewed with respect by movie-goers "in the know," but lacking many major hits to go with the rep. And neither is B-list enough to fall into the dreaded "character actor" category. Norton's certainly a bigger name than Ruffalo, and I was as pissed as anyone when Norton was canned, but I'm starting to see why Marvel let him walk. Norton was apparently a bigger pain-in-the-ass than any potential box office boost could justify putting up with. Kinda sux, and Feige came across as completely petty in his statement, but in the long run it probably won't matter either way in regard to The Avengers' BO...

  • July 26, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Might be good if Avengers fail, then no lame ass JLA

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Green Lantern will be total shit because outside of fanboys who still read it and 70 year olds who may remember it, no one gives a fuck about secondary DC heroes. And GL for all posturing is a second tier hero. I am thinking Daredevil numbers.

  • July 26, 2010, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Paul Giammati - A lister or not

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Is respected more than Norton or Downey - by those in the know, but has never opened a movie big. Still sideways was a hit. Dump Ruffalo hire PG!

  • July 26, 2010, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Joss Whedon = The Fat Ron Howard

    by Stuntcock Mike

    This fucker was doomed from the start.

  • July 26, 2010, 2:06 p.m. CST

    If Ron was directing Clint Howard will play Jarvis's dust rag

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Or ScarJo's rag - he has the range to do both

  • July 26, 2010, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Giamatti = Character Actor!

    by Blanket-Man

    He's too average-to-odd looking to ever be an A-list, above-the-marquee actor! He'd make a good Jarvis, though!

  • July 26, 2010, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Marvel has never hired an A-lister

    by MacReady452

    cause A-listers don't pull tights over their $20 million asses.

  • July 26, 2010, 2:31 p.m. CST

    THE_CHOPPAH preach his word brother!

    by MacReady452

  • July 26, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Its that damn Natalie Portman sucking us in Choppah

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 2:36 p.m. CST

    2d Thor movie s/h executioner and enchantress

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 2:46 p.m. CST

    MacReady666 thats me

    by MacReady452

    there is no God you big silly and if there is he is losing. I'm gonna get in on the ground floor with the winning team. You can't beat the queers and the BP's and the Cheney's and the Osbourne's.<p>Hell is here. Hell is now. You lost and you don't even know it. You poor blind fool. Pathetic.

  • July 26, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Hulk join avengers movie to ogle Black Widow

    by leo54304

    Hulk now find out Widow only around for 10 minutes!! Hulk quit!! give Hulks 15 minutes screen time to walking blue condom!! Hulk join Ed Norton in unemployment line!!

  • July 26, 2010, 2:53 p.m. CST

    haven't you seen Inception Choppy?

    by MacReady452

    You dream within a dream is flying apart like popcorn in a popper. Your totem is spinning with no end. Kick up.

  • July 26, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    ah ha

    by MacReady452

    You feeding the machine. Hypocrites will burn the same as murders and rapist. Set yourself on fire and get it over with.

  • July 26, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST

    If the villain...

    by psSalieri

    is Dr. Horrible, I'm in.

  • July 26, 2010, 3 p.m. CST

    burn like people who don't put " 're" on You

    by MacReady452

  • July 26, 2010, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Men plus men equal AVENGERS

    by Spawn0mite

    So many men in uniform. This really turns me on. I miss the NAVY.

  • July 26, 2010, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Wrong message board turd cutter

    by MacReady452

    You're the one spamming a movie site with fundamentalist propaganda. I'm an idiot? You betrayed yourself in less than 4 posts. Cling to your god you weak minded sheep. Huddle together with the herd and enjoy the smell of ass as you walk off the cliff. Your one load of fertilizer away from being no better than Al Qaeda.<p>You disgust me. You and everyone who looks like you.

  • July 26, 2010, 3:13 p.m. CST

    "it's against God to insult people."

    by MacReady452

    brilliant.

  • July 26, 2010, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Hey Mac. What did you do to get the fundie on your ass?

    by ColonelFatheart

  • July 26, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    LOL@ Pilgim 100% at RT

    by rogueleader66

    & reviews, with many more to come, that number is not going to stay at 100%....oh and go check RT, one of those "fresh" comments is this..."This is a discouragingly limp movie where nothing is at stake" And that is one of the glowing reviews? LOL.....<P>I don't know much about this Scott Pilgrim crap, but honestly, from everything I have seen it looks stupid as hell, and Mike Cera is playing his usual self....so that's one movie I will wait til I can d/l it or better yet, on HBO or something so I don't waste a DVD on it, won't be giving money to that one.

  • July 26, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Woah, is this really happening.

    by rbatty024

    An attempted conversion on a geek movie website. I'm not sure if this is the best place to proselytize. Of course, I don't think any place is a good place to proselytize.

  • July 26, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST

    So ... it's against God to insult people ...

    by ColonelFatheart

    ... but you're calling people idiots? Mmmm. Smells like freshly baked Christian hypocrisy.

  • July 26, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    More glowing praise for Scott Pilgrim

    by rogueleader66

    "An example of attention-deficit filmmaking at both its finest and its most frustrating." Yea, that's "fresh" as well...not exactly high praise....

  • July 26, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST

    rogueleader

    by ColonelFatheart

    Which critic said that about SCOTT PILGRIM? That sentiment certainly doesn't bode well in my book.

  • July 26, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST

    i have a passion and desire

    by MacReady452

    for pussy. Reaching the rapture as a virgin isn't gonna put you at God's right hand. It's gonna keep you in your moms basement with the bluest balls since Avatar. I'm surprised she even lets you near a computer.<p>Your insanity has amused me. I'm off to live a life of gluttony and lust. I'm sure it's more interesting than the chicken pot pie mom just popped in the microwave for you. Life Choppy..... GET TO IT!

  • July 26, 2010, 3:25 p.m. CST

    THE_CHOPPAH

    by Terrmaster

    "Can your SCIENCE explain why it RAINS?!" "Uh...yes. Yes it can."

  • July 26, 2010, 3:25 p.m. CST

    THE_CHOPPAH

    by cyberskunk

    I didn't want to bother saying anything because I had nothing to say. But then I saw you call Inception filth and complained about a lack of God in it, so I finally felt motivated to say something. If you are not make-pretending for the fun of it, then I am surprised at you. I am not a christian, but if I'm really curious, I sometimes go to christiananswers.net to see what they think of a movie, and they actually liked Inception. Not that I think this somehow obligates you to agree with them. But I'm just surprised. I used to go to capalert.com to see what weird analysis they had for whatever recent movie the guy saw. He complained about telepathy in the movie A.I. I figure he was mistaking the beings at the end of the movie for aliens. (and he said there was a drowning bear in The Iron Giant! I think he was referring to a swimming raccoon. But I didn't think of that as drowning. It was meant to be a comedic moment.)

  • July 26, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST

    I didn't do anything Colonel

    by MacReady452

    I told him to preach on and he went off on me about mocking him. Take over for me will ya. I really do have to go.

  • July 26, 2010, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Colonel

    by rogueleader66

    Don't know did not take note of it.<P>Don't get me wrong if you are looking forward to the film, more power to you, it just looks and sounds stupid as hell to me and I won't be wasting my time at the theater with it.

  • July 26, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST

    SCOTTPILGRIMFAN

    by Terrmaster

    Scott Pilgrim was pretty great. But revolutionizes nothing. Wright's best remains Shaun. Your fanaticism over a "good" movie is kind of retarded. But yeah, whatever, I'm sure I just don't "get" it enough.

  • July 26, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Okay, I did a google search and you're joking around.

    by cyberskunk

    Wow, I wonder what Thanos is going to look like when he shows up in whatever movie he's in?

  • July 26, 2010, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Rogueleader

    by ColonelFatheart

    Not really looking forward to it, but I was preparing to give it the benefit of the doubt since Wright's directing it. I'll have to wait for On Demand or something then.

  • July 26, 2010, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Mac, these fundies aren't worth my time.

    by ColonelFatheart

    I'm gonna step away from this one.

  • July 26, 2010, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Choppah is funny sometimes but can OVERDUE it

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Heres an avengers movie everyone should like

    by leo54304

    Liv Tyler (Incredible Hulk), Brit with tits (CA), Natalie Portman (Thor) and Scarlett Johansson (IM) start off in a big pillow fight and take it from there. What, you thought I'd put Paltrow in a fantasy like this?

  • July 26, 2010, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Yes, choppah, overdue books

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 5:08 p.m. CST

    much, MUCH better pic of thr Avengers here:

    by BillboeFett

    with 3 new additions! <p> </BR> <P> http://tinyurl.com/2446ka4

  • July 26, 2010, 5:11 p.m. CST

    HOT WHEELS manlovin

    by Spawn0mite

    I can't wait for 2012. Obama for another four years at least, more Hot Wheels and of course. . . The Avengers. Be still my pink heart.

  • July 26, 2010, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Can we shut the fuck up about Ed Norton already?

    by Jobacca

    Its a non fucking issue. He aint coming back. For what its worth,I wish he were...I enjoyed Hulk and agree that he got screwed out of the role. But its over...you can either let that ruin your goddamn life,or you can try to get some enjoyment from the upcoming Hulk/Marvel movies. Even Ed Norton and Ed Nortons agent arent as butthurt over this as some of you are.

  • July 26, 2010, 5:18 p.m. CST

    This is what happens...

    by EastcoastAvenger

    when the fine folks at AICN take their time in getting their Comic Con news and interviews up. Leaves to much time for the talkbacks to go from reactions to cool news about the Avengers to whatever this talkback is about now.

  • July 26, 2010, 6:18 p.m. CST

    hmmm...

    by shawn_h

    I just dont know now whether or not this movie is going to be awesome or if its just gonna be a really bad case of diarrea

  • July 26, 2010, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Christ you guys love to hate.

    by Sailor Rip

    When's the JLA movie come out?

  • July 26, 2010, 6:22 p.m. CST

    What's going on in here?

    by D.Vader

    Oh... *backs out*

  • July 26, 2010, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Vader was that auto pilot inflation scene from "Airplane

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Hahaha Leo

    by D.Vader

  • July 26, 2010, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Scott Who?

    by OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW

    lol, Pilgrim? Marval = Homo and Cera = Hetero? Huh?

  • July 26, 2010, 6:48 p.m. CST

    @ THE_ CHOPPAH

    by scors54

    Damn--I didn't know that anyone could type that fast with one hand (while the other tries desperately to find that baby bottle nipple masquerading as a penis) and in the dim light of their parents' basementas well-miraculous, indeed. Keep waiting for the rapture, numbnuts-- if and when God actually shows up and wipes you and all the rest of you self important holy rolling assholes off the bottom of his shoe like the sanctimonious dung you are.

  • July 26, 2010, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Hmm, pictures are kind of awkward

    by bravogolfhotel

    I assume this was the first time the entire cast was gathered in one place, though, so that's not a big issue. Good news otherwise, especially since Downey's look seems to suggest we'll soon be enjoying him in THE ROBERT EVANS STORY.

  • July 26, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    if this movie sucks....

    by chompie

    are all the nerds in the world going to self-destruct? The best thing Ruffalo ever did was Safe Men i can't imagine him being all angry though

  • July 26, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST

    I trim.

    by TedKordLives

    I'm not putting a razor down there for any amount of money.

  • July 26, 2010, 7:43 p.m. CST

    There's a new The Phantom movie coming out

    by BEYONDTHUNDERDOME2GIRLS1CUPBILLCOSBY

    http://tinyurl.com/32dju69 unfortunately no billy zane

  • July 26, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST

    2012 American Godzilla Coming 2012

    by BEYONDTHUNDERDOME2GIRLS1CUPBILLCOSBY

  • July 26, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST

    If Moondragon shaves her head does she....

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Scissors are the way to go.

    by D.Vader

  • July 26, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST

    J Ventura: I aint got time to trim

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Dutch: If she trims, we can eat her

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Goldfinger: No Mr Bond, I'm going to BUZZCLIP you

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Adam West as Batman in Lady Gaga music video

    by doctordoublex

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TaSNh0R4cY

  • July 26, 2010, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Deleted lines from Raiders

    by leo54304

    Marion to Indy: You're not the man I used to know Indy:Its not the years, its the trimmings

  • July 26, 2010, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Pubes? We'll nuke it from orbit.

    by D.Vader

    Its the only way to be sure.

  • July 26, 2010, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Brazilian, why did it have to be brazilian?

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Looks like the wrong week to give up trimming

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Hey AICN

    by Nerd Rage

    The Sucker Punch trailer is out. Would be nice to share that with your readers, hmmmm?

  • July 26, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Norton's original quote.........

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    "It seems it won't work out for me to continue playing Bruce Banner for Marvel in 'The Avengers...I sincerely hoped it could happen and be great for everyone, but it hasn't turned out as we all hoped. I know this is disappointing to many people and that makes me sad. But I am very sincerely grateful to Marvel for extending the offer and even more so for giving me the chance to be a par of the Hulk's long and excellent history."<P> I know this is an old quote......but anyone who still claims Norton is a douche should have their head examined.<P> Yeah I know don't bother - here's the part where you repeat the same gossip about his "years worth of being difficult" bla bla bla...........save it.

  • July 26, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Michael Cera is the poor man's Jesse Eisenberg

    by Disco_sucks

    Also, I'm less than overwhelmed with the whole Avengers thing so far. For it to work they'd have to give each of the individual films to a director who's a) A fan and b) Got a unique style, so when they all come together it feels like something significant. So far I'm not getting that vibe.

  • July 26, 2010, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Cant they just get Lou Ferrigno?

    by RPLocke

  • July 26, 2010, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Lou.......

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    rules!

  • July 26, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Lou: Huh? Speak into my other ear. Tank yu

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Sallah notices the dead monkey

    by D.Vader

    "Bad pubes."

  • July 26, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Remeber Lou in tv series wearing painted green sneakers

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 8:39 p.m. CST

    I love Edward Norton

    by D.Vader

    Case closed.

  • July 26, 2010, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Sallah also said: Marion has a nice rack

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Indy to Marion: He's got your looks

    by leo54304

    Marion: And your pubes

  • July 26, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST

    When you think of pubes

    by leo54304

    You think of Indiana Jones

  • July 26, 2010, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Just saw trailer for Pirahna 3D-good summer fun

    by leo54304

    Want it to gross more than Scott Pilgrim. That'd be justice.

  • July 26, 2010, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Spiderman in Avengers

    by UTexLex

    I don't know enough about the mythology, but did Spiderman ever fight alongside the Avengers? Imagine if Sony hadn't bagged Raimi's crew and were generous enough to allow Tobey Maguire to make an appearance in Avengers...If that had happened at the end of Avengers, you can't deny it'd get everyone pumped up. Shame that franchises hit the reboot button too...woulda been epic.

  • July 26, 2010, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Lou Ferrigno is a nice guy

    by RPLocke

    Met him a few times. Always nice.

  • July 26, 2010, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Can I get a Sucker Punch trailer talkback?

    by blunted666

    apple.com/trailers I think it looks pretty sweet. Just sayin'.

  • July 26, 2010, 9:09 p.m. CST

    I remember used to be every summer

    by leo54304

    there was always at least one guilty summer movie pleasure (Meatballs,Fast Times,Beastmaster,etc). Haven't had that yet.

  • July 26, 2010, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Spider-Man WAS an Avenger once or twice

    by D.Vader

    And he's also been a member of the Fantastic Four.

  • July 26, 2010, 9:14 p.m. CST

    You are so right Scarlett. Will catch the sequel.

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Or the next movie Megan Fox is the lead in

    by leo54304

  • July 26, 2010, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Guy to Jonah Hex: What happened to your face?

    by leo54304

    Hex: Cut myself shaving my pubes.

  • July 26, 2010, 9:21 p.m. CST

    LOL@ Scott Pilgrim=The fututre

    by rogueleader66

    LOL If anyone thinks this is going to be some mega hit....stop living in denial, this will not even break 100 million, no one wants to see Mike Cera doing his tired old schtick, no matter who is directing it or what pimply face nerd fantasy comic it's based on, it might make a little bit of money, but it won't be a "hit"....but keep on dreaming loser, little boys like you need some sort of hope, even if it is something as retarded as Scott Pilgrim...hahahahahaha

  • July 26, 2010, 9:33 p.m. CST

    was lou in IH?

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I don't remember.

  • July 26, 2010, 9:34 p.m. CST

    THE_CHOPPAH has to be an act.

    by T 1000 xp professional

    He's giving the rest of us a bad name. I hate to have a house divided, but i can't help but to think he's just putting on a show for all of you ala Borat. That science quote is kind of a give-away to his schtick (I hope). If you're not kidding then, dude, you're not giving the message of hope, love, and success in absolutely the worst way possible. Continue with your antics, but I just had to call you out on your nonsense. Oh yeah, I'm a Christian, and I love this comic book world of make-believe.

  • July 26, 2010, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Fred Flintstone Music Video

    by doctordoublex

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3IIAkeqbeQ

  • July 26, 2010, 9:43 p.m. CST

    leo54304

    by RPLocke

    The A Team was my guilty summer movie. Loved it!

  • July 26, 2010, 9:46 p.m. CST

    lol haha quit it, man

    by T 1000 xp professional

    these guys are buying your act.

  • July 26, 2010, 9:53 p.m. CST

    WOW ed Norton just called me....

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    he said "thanks for having his back but I should chill and just go enjoy the avengers flick and other marvel movies because life's too short."<P> I told him NO WAY MAN! <p> FUCK MARVEL!<p><p> NORTON!<p> NORTON!<p> NORTON!<p> NORTON!<p> ......then he just hung up on me.

  • July 26, 2010, 9:54 p.m. CST

    leo54304

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    rate a-team on a scale of 1-10.

  • July 26, 2010, 10:04 p.m. CST

    The 1970s Avengers would be

    by RPLocke

    Lou Ferrigno. Hah!

  • July 26, 2010, 10:12 p.m. CST

    A-Team about a 7

    by leo54304

    Liam is of course a plus to any movie but the rest of cast didn't thrill me too much. They had a few lines that you had to laugh at. Action scenes weren't bad and some over the top which is what you want. Plot didn't matter for a movie like this just want fun. Will say it was more fun than Predators but thats not saying much. Will it be a movie I'll remember years from now like a few I listed? No but it was a summer fun movie.

  • July 26, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Summers not over: Dinner for schmucks

    by leo54304

    Just don't invite ewoks.

  • July 26, 2010, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Remember League Extraordinary Gentlemen?

    by leo54304

    That had potential to be a guilty pleasure til they did the Venice scene. After that I've mentally blocked out the rest of the movie. It was that bad.

  • July 26, 2010, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Operation End Game

    by leo54304

    2 rival assassin teams take each other on in a corporate office. . Looks stylish and could be bloody fun.

  • July 26, 2010, 10:40 p.m. CST

    SCARLETT_JOHANSSONS_BREAST_MILK

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    Ed also told me you and Kevin Feige are on his shit list.

  • July 26, 2010, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Avengers is going to suck

    by Spawn0mite

    . . and I'm going to be there opening day.

  • July 26, 2010, 11:43 p.m. CST

    Does anyone actually care about this?

    by StarryNight

    It feels so forced and like such a sad attempt to pander to fanboy/nerd culture. How can anyone actually be interested in this?

  • July 26, 2010, 11:51 p.m. CST

    NEEDS More Chicks

    by bauerpowerhour24

    this movie will fail it is a geek fest but no chicks Scarlett is great and hot but man they need more than her in Tights big time

  • July 27, 2010, 12:42 a.m. CST

    I hope these actors and Joss don't read these boards

    by poddie

    All the whining nerdy geeks in here talking big and proclaiming this movie is going to suck are just plain embarressing. I check this site for news and sometimes get distracted and start reading all the hate mongering comments from all the people here that feel the need to insult and villify anyone who has accomplished more than they have (which is, of course, pretty much everyone). It may be cliche, but the image of all you guys sitting in your mother's basement spewing your hatred because you feel scorned by the world can't help but ring true given all the chest puffing and smack talking that goes on. It's just really pathetic and frankly makes me sick. In many ways I believe the world was a better place before the internet.

  • July 27, 2010, 1:39 a.m. CST

    i hope they read the boards

    by DioxholsterReturns

    so they know they are in the process of raping my childhood in a gay superhero custom.

  • July 27, 2010, 4:13 a.m. CST

    "VINTAGE DOWNEY!"

    by Rommel Catuncan

    That's hilarious!

  • July 27, 2010, 6:29 a.m. CST

    Robert Downey Jr

    by Clean_Vageena

    can stuff my lovebox any time.

  • July 27, 2010, 6:43 a.m. CST

    Amazing that that a superhero team movie

    by leo54304

    like the avengres can be made but the Wonder Woman which has been talked about for about 8 years (?) can't. Point is a team movie is more expensive, should be tougher to make with all the problems (see posts) than a solo hero. Unless its Wonder Woman.

  • July 27, 2010, 6:48 a.m. CST

    Buy latest Iron Man annual

    by leo54304

    First annual worth buying in long time. Mandarin kidnaps filmmaker to make biopic of himself. Want to see the world thru a madmans eyes? This story will do that. Is you thought Doom and Osborn had issues with reality, the Mandarin is on a whole different level. Do yourself a favor and buy it. Its one of those comics you'll pull out every once in awhile to read because its that good.

  • July 27, 2010, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Remember physique and hair of Wonder Man

    by leo54304

    back in avengers 150-200? Couple of actors fit that look: George Clooney or Gerard Butler immediately come to mind. Especially the issues Drawn by Bryne or Sal Buscema. By the way, did anyone like the mullet look they gave him for a few years? All you needed to add was a mustache and wondy would have been perfect to do 70s porn.

  • July 27, 2010, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Amy Adams as happy go lucky Hellcat

    by leo54304

    Match in heaven for me as I love Amy and the character. Great costume, personality, skills of catwoman and great signature phrase: cheese and crackers!! Was great in avengers and then defenders. She's the little miss sunshine of the marvel univers

  • July 27, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    This just in the big baddy for Avengers is...

    by OSAMP1

    Feige and Whedon

  • July 27, 2010, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Too soon to tell

    by hst666

    We all know Whedon's a great director and his Amazing X-men was well-written and showed a clear grasp of the characters<p><p>However, I worry about Marvel's influence. Iron Man 2 was coming out May 2, with or without Favreau and that was it. Most blockbuster sequels come out three years apart (unless they were filmed back-to-back in the first place) DC is giving Nolan the time he needs to craft a good story and plan a great film. I will hope for the best.

  • July 27, 2010, 10:21 a.m. CST

    That should read "Astonishing"

    by hst666

  • July 27, 2010, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Not sure about this...

    by WeylandYutani

    With so many "main" characters, there will not be a lot of screen time for any of them. Which lends the film to just a series of action set pieces if Whedon is not careful. Think of those all star WWII films from the 60s. When done right, they were pretty good, like when The Longest Day used a series of established and newer leading actors to tell a major historical event. But A Bridge Too Far or The Battle of Britain were kind of poor in many ways. I guess the difference is, all of the Avengers will have had their own set up films before this project - with the exception of Ruffalo's Hulk I suppose. <P> Anyway it will be interesting to see if this works.

  • July 27, 2010, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Not sure about this...

    by WeylandYutani

    With so many "main" characters, there will not be a lot of screen time for any of them. Which lends the film to just a series of action set pieces if Whedon is not careful. Think of those all star WWII films from the 60s. When done right, they were pretty good, like when The Longest Day used a series of established and newer leading actors to tell a major historical event. But A Bridge Too Far or The Battle of Britain were kind of poor in many ways. I guess the difference is, all of the Avengers will have had their own set up films before this project - with the exception of Ruffalo's Hulk I suppose. <P> Anyway it will be interesting to see if this works.

  • July 27, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST

    oops. sorry

    by WeylandYutani

  • July 27, 2010, noon CST

    Good analogy of the ensemble war movies

    by leo54304

  • July 27, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Ed Norton and Obama

    by Spawn0mite

    These two need to be in The Avengers movie. IT is just meant to be. This movie is screaming "GAY!!"

  • July 27, 2010, 1:39 p.m. CST

    I think they should...

    by OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW

    I agree. They would be much better off with actors that give off heterosexual vibes, like Michael Cera.

  • July 27, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST

    With Renner as Hawkeye no wisecracks

    by leo54304

    Not the Hawkeye I want. Loved him either as the rebel early on in his career or as a graduate of CAs school of leadership from recent years.

  • July 27, 2010, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Watch Life Aquatic

    by AntoniusBloc

    Wes Anderson should be direcing this film

  • July 27, 2010, 2:55 p.m. CST

    and Tom Hardy as Bilbo

    by AntoniusBloc

  • July 27, 2010, 3:36 p.m. CST

    SCOTT PILGRIM=EPIC FAIL

    by rogueleader66

    FACT

  • July 27, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    SCOTT PILGRIM=SAME OLD TIRED MIKE CERA SCHTICK

    by rogueleader66

    FACT

  • July 27, 2010, 3:38 p.m. CST

    SCOTT PILGRIM=GAY FANBOY BULLSHIT FANTASY

    by rogueleader66

    FACT

  • July 27, 2010, 3:39 p.m. CST

    SCOTT PILGRIM FIGHTING EVIL EX-B/F'S=DUMB AS FUCK

    by rogueleader66

    FACT

  • July 27, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST

    SCOTT PILGRIM FAILING AS BOTH A FILM AND AT THE BOX OFFICE

    by rogueleader66

    Fact, and a priceless one at that

  • July 27, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    On that note......

    by rogueleader66

    I'm out but will return later..... just because I am so amused by this gay Scott Pilgrim fanboy bullshit, love seeing the rantings of the delusional.

  • July 27, 2010, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Dogs vs Cats will do better box office than Scott Pilgrim

    by leo54304

    Fact. Pussy Galore says so.

  • July 27, 2010, 4:40 p.m. CST

    It's Hammerhead, not "Momaw Nadon"

    by kevred

    That banner ad's been bugging me. All after-the-fact/extended-universe Star Wars naming is so horrifyingly bad. Lucas named things so stupendously well in the first 3 films. Leave it at that, please. He's not from "Ithor", whatever the hell that is, he's a mysterious creature in the cantina with no official identity. Backstories are so stupid.

  • July 27, 2010, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Marvel show some balls do Incredible Hercules

    by leo54304

    Serious. His character has been so well redone its amazing. From Bob Layton who started thinking of Herc as a fun loving, boozing, womanizing oaf with a big heart. To the current incarnation of a demigod who lives life to the fullest but knows he has a lot to atone for. Do it Marvel, stop being so serious all the time. You need a villain, fine: Hera the uber bitch for a stepmom and Lucy Lawless would be perfect. Just watch Spartacus. And scottpilgrim don't bother with the greeks are gay crap unless you have something originalto say.

  • July 27, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Scarlett could have been Moonstone in IM2

    by leo54304

    Was reading up on Moonstone in wikipedia and it briefly mentioned Scarlett looked at Moonstone as a character. The article on Moonstone also included a link to Scarlett talks Iron Man 2. And I was impressed with the interview she gave. Not a big Scarlett fan but my respect for her has gone up.

  • July 27, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    She also considered the Scarlet WItch

    by leo54304

  • July 27, 2010, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Scott Pilgrim and the Search for Puberty

    by OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW

  • July 27, 2010, 6:23 p.m. CST

    HAHAHAHA

    by rogueleader66

    I don't go on Twitter you tool, it's for short attention span losers like you....tell me genius, what is this holy grail of a movie going to make? Huh? What will be it's box office take? Come on smart guy, because we all know that internet buzz is soooo relevant...go back on Twitter and don't forget to brush your teeth before bed, or mommy will yell at you.<P>You pre-pubescent little boys are really entertaining, please keep it up.

  • July 27, 2010, 6:26 p.m. CST

    I have

    by boogy110

    No interest in this movie whatsoeva! Cap A = Lame / HawkEye= who the fuck cares thor? = Get real

  • July 27, 2010, 7:37 p.m. CST

    i was there and....

    by joevfx

    the place totally exploded, it was awesome gave me geek chills, i was also about 10 seats away from the stabbing.

  • July 28, 2010, 2:07 a.m. CST

    joevfx...

    by FANOFSCOTTPILGRIMFAN

    ...lives to die another day...after seeing Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:21 a.m. CST

    This is harry knowles webiste..

    by emeraldboy

    so the chance of the cast and the director reading this site. is very small.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Thor casting

    by vosborne951

    Brian Dennehy as Odin James Woods as Loki Sigourney Weaver as Sif John Candy as Volstagg Carey Elwes as Fandral Bruce Weitz as Hogun Steve Martin as Balder (gray hair) Heimdall...unknown Thor... unknown..maybe if he could act his way out of a paper bag, Triple H, Paul Levesque.

  • July 28, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Thor casting

    by vosborne951

    A little more legible and easier to read; Brian Dennehy as Odin; James Woods as Loki; Sigourney Weaver as Sif; John Candy as Volstagg; Carey Elwes as Fandral; Bruce Weitz as Hogun; Steve Martin as Balder (gray hair); Heimdall...unknown; Thor... unknown..maybe if he could act his way out of a paper bag, Triple H, Paul Levesque.

  • July 28, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST

    WHY Avengers is GAY and I LOVE it

    by Spawn0mite

    Captain America: Man in uniform. Sex appeal. Thor: Pretty blond hair and spokesman for all superior white people. Iron Man: Hard steal and power tools. . goodness. Ant Man: Just too cute to pass up. Hulk: Huge, rough and angry. . scary yet a real turn on.

  • July 29, 2010, 1:59 p.m. CST

    AND PRESENTING THE NEW HULK..... MARK RUFFALO!!!!!!!!

    by J-Dizzle

    Announcer: Isn't this great everybody?? Who would have thought we could get Mark Ruffalo to play the Hulk!!!!<p> Comic-Con Nerds: Um.... who?

  • July 29, 2010, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Here's one thing I don't get:

    by buffywrestling

    Disregarding the "Joss sux ergo Avengers will sux" noisyness, one legit complaint I hear is that Whedon doesn't have enough experience working with superheroes or in the superhero genre. Most will counter this arguement with Whedon's X-men run. <p> However...you guys realize that Buffy Summers was a Superhero, right? She had an origin story, super strength, had a crew of people that surrounded her with their own powers and saved the world a lot. <p> BtVS had a run on 145 hours. That's like 72.5 Superhero movies. And that's just one gig. <p> He has enough experience.

  • July 30, 2010, 2:54 a.m. CST

    The Budget

    by carraway

    I realize this is going to be a sure fire hit and I'm excited, but the budget is going to have to be somewhere north of 3.4 kazillion dollars. Even if it takes in only a fraction over that amount say 3.6 kazillion dollars that's still .2 kasillion dollars.

  • July 30, 2010, 3:52 a.m. CST

    Whedon's Experience

    by buffywrestling

    Buffy = 145 hours of produced television <p> Angel = 110 hours of produced television <p> Firefly = 13 hours <p> Dollhouse = 26 hours <p> Serenity = 2 hours <p> Dr.Horrible = 2 hours [1 hour for the movie; 1 hour for the commentary] <p> So not including his ghost screenwriting, his actual screenwriting, the comic books that he over sees - he has more screen time than anyone has ever had before taking on the Marvel universe. <p> Ever.

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  • July 30, 2010, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Darkocity, you think Banner might create own team?

    by leo54304

    To counter the avengers? If I were Banner I'd be thinking of it almost as a necessity. His own secret defenders if you would. Members that come to mind include hellcat, nighthawk.

  • July 30, 2010, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Deleted Hulk line from Avengers movie:

    by leo54304

    Banner: If I don't join your group and be a team player, what are you gonna do? Put me in a rocket and shoot me into space?

  • July 30, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    buffy, your post reinforces my belief

    by leo54304

    Whedon is the only choice for the movie. He's got the track record and the balls to pull it off. Good luck Joss.

  • July 31, 2010, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Dr. Doom is a pussy

    by Spawn0mite

    'nuff said

  • Aug. 3, 2010, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Now bring us Heroes For Hire dick weeds.

    by parissun

    Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Misty Knight and Black Cat. Nuff said.

  • Aug. 3, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Someone called SLJ a "poor man's Billy Dee Williams"

    by parissun

    Hell, Billy Dee Williams is a poor man's Billy Dee Williams. Didn't he do Mahogany? LOL.

  • Aug. 3, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Don't expect any T & A shots of ScarJo from Whedon.

    by parissun

    If I didn't know any better I'd say he was born with the soul of a woman.