July 23, 2010, 11:15 a.m. CST
July 23, 2010, 11:15 a.m. CST
wicked trailer music.
July 23, 2010, 11:16 a.m. CST
of the "official" soundtrack floating around, but I'm pretty sure its all shit.
These are clips lifted from the official Tron Legacy website that just got revamped yesterday. Mystery solved. They are the real deal.
July 23, 2010, 11:20 a.m. CST
<p>Is what that sounds like. Themes trimmed down to trailer-sized chunks. Hopefully their ideas will be expanded -- and much more dynamic -- in the film itself.</p> <p>I miss the many, many colors Carlos brought to the score of the original.</p>
July 23, 2010, 11:32 a.m. CST
July 23, 2010, 11:35 a.m. CST
Some moody pads? One mild build-up? I love Daft Punk, but I can't say I'm hearing anything but basic "mood sounds" -- certainly nothing worth pushing out there as some great achievement by Daft Punk . . .
July 23, 2010, 11:35 a.m. CST
..the best I've heard from Daft Punk. <P>
July 23, 2010, 11:36 a.m. CST
...made a tinyurl of the official site to link in the other TRONBACK.<p>Love the samples. I may be as excited for the soundtrack as I am the movie. And the game, which looks kick ass.<p>Man, I can't remember the last time I've been so jazzed for a film and all it's ancillary products. It just gets me.
July 23, 2010, 11:38 a.m. CST
Nothing that touches WCW's score with a 20-foot pole. I can whistle her score right now -- this sounds like a white noise sleep machine
July 23, 2010, 11:39 a.m. CST
I thought i pointed them out to it....oh well
July 23, 2010, 11:41 a.m. CST
Any word on a daft punk tour to tron?
July 23, 2010, 11:42 a.m. CST
And I really wish those loud-ass lightcycles would stop cutting through the tracks...
July 23, 2010, 11:43 a.m. CST
It's been announced. Mostholy, you can turn off FX sounds in the bottom left, but it doesn't help much. How the fuck did they make Bridges look so young? That trailer looks fat as shit.
July 23, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST
by Axl Z
That would have been amazing.. Really looking forward to this, as soon as it was announced Daft Pink were involved I knew I'd end up buying it!
July 23, 2010, 11:51 a.m. CST
by Axl Z
Damn speller checker!
July 23, 2010, 11:52 a.m. CST
Olivia Wilde is rocking Alice Glass's (of CC) hairstyle, and that was clearly intentional, so why not?
July 23, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST
Yeah, this definitely is nowhere neat as good as Wendy Carlos' soundtrack.
July 23, 2010, 11:58 a.m. CST
S/he was named Walter Carlos until "her" reassignment surgery in 1972. True story!
July 23, 2010, 12:11 p.m. CST
July 23, 2010, 12:13 p.m. CST
Do you seriously think that there is anybody on here who doesn't know that Wendy Carlos used to be Walter Carlos? Jesus. Next you'll be posting that Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father.
July 23, 2010, 12:14 p.m. CST
July 23, 2010, 12:21 p.m. CST
Cool as this is, doesn't hold a candle to Carlos' original score. Let's hope they are saving the good stuff for closer to release.
July 23, 2010, 12:22 p.m. CST
July 23, 2010, 12:36 p.m. CST
Whoah! Misdirected anger, much? I don't know what people here know or don't know; I was just throwing it out there. Lighten the fuck up, chuckles.
July 23, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST
by VNV Nation.
July 23, 2010, 12:44 p.m. CST
And I had two of her non-Tron albums. You learn something new every day. Where, exactly, would I have gleaned that, if not for here?
July 23, 2010, 12:48 p.m. CST
All I'm saying. Hearing nothing of the original cues yet. Doesn't have to have them everywhere, but here and there . . . When the Tron machine turns on in Flynn's arcade? Somewhere.
July 23, 2010, 12:48 p.m. CST
:p @ kwizatzhaderach
July 23, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST
"Her" soundtrack for TRON is SOOO good. Actually, all of her soundtracks are cool. I picked up a collection of hers a while back called "Rediscovering Lost Scores: Vol. 1"; it has the AWESOME "Clockworks (Bloody Elevator)" music from THE SHINING trailer and this neat polymoog improv track, unused, from THE SHINING. Love all that stuff she did for A Clockwork Orange too. Really awesome stuff.
July 23, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST
I'm no music critic, but none of these feels like a "theme" yet. I'm guessing the key Tron overture has yet to make its appearance? I'm not against this stuff, as it sounds somewhat dark and muddy like the visuals, but it isn't something people will remember that strongly as they leave the theater. Perhaps that's the point.
July 23, 2010, 1:07 p.m. CST
by Ozman X
Around the world around the world, around the world around the world,around the SHUT UP!
July 23, 2010, 1:14 p.m. CST
Though I think the score is sounding promising, I think people should remember that the clips on the website are 1)loops - just the same thing repeated to make up a track and 2) Daft Punks' trailer music for the film. I don't think we've heard a cue from the film itself yet.
July 23, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST
...Mass Effect soundtrack in my Dark Knight soundtrack and called it Tron Legacy!
July 23, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST
I'm sure its most likely music from 2ron, but this isn't Daft Punk. I'll bet dollars to donuts radio dude got a garbled subspace transmission. And we'll soon find out that DP created 1 single track for the movie that probably plays at the end credits.
July 23, 2010, 1:18 p.m. CST
It's confirmed on the official site that Daft Punk are doing the whole score. The music clips also originate from the official site.
July 23, 2010, 1:24 p.m. CST
I am dying to hear more of this
July 23, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST
That is not a good thing.
July 23, 2010, 2:03 p.m. CST
I don't have any problems with the "creepy dead-eyed Jeff Bridges version of CLU", as from what I can tell, it looks like CLU is the villain of the story...like Khan in Trek II, maybe he blames Flynn for abandoning him, just as his flesh-and-blood son does. That's the vibe I'm getting from the trailers. CLU is the bad guy, shares the same issues as Flynn's son, both are on a quest to find and reunite with Flynn.
July 23, 2010, 2:04 p.m. CST
Why would you hire Daft Punk and ask them to do an orchestral score?(something that isn't geared toward their strengths)I'm not saying the work they've done is bad: I went back and rewathed the March Trailer and it sounds great. But it doesn't sound like Daft Punk.And if the soundtrack doesn't carry that easily identifiable name recognition, like when you hear a track you've never heard before and just KNOW its a NIN song or know its a Daft Punk song... What was the fucking point? <p> Again man, I'm not hatin'. Its just the way o' the world. You ask Stephen King to write a romance and you get Christine. What the hell happened here...
July 23, 2010, 2:13 p.m. CST
July 23, 2010, 2:20 p.m. CST
Amon Tobin would be great. I'm skeptical about Daft Punk doing the score, they were like a hipster's band a few years ago and I stopped liking them because of the annoying fans. Not Tool fan level of annoying, but still irritating. But hey, better than having a butt-rock score like most movies do these days with crap like Days of the New or Nickelback, or that godawful song you hear Avril Levigne singing at the end of Burton's Alice in Wonderland.
July 23, 2010, 2:22 p.m. CST
I love it! Perfect for this movie!
July 23, 2010, 2:24 p.m. CST
Yeah, I agree Aphex or Ae film scores for the right film would be amazing. There have been rumors for many years that those guys and Chris Cunningham would collaborate on a Neuromancer film. That's too perfect to happen in this universe, but maybe in time those guys will do some music for SOMETHING on the silver screen.
July 23, 2010, 2:43 p.m. CST
Clearly this is incedental music and not any of the main themes. Also, this isn't Daft Punk's movie - they are hired to do the job. It's not going to sound like I5555 or any of their albums. That's like telling me you're bumed out that the RZA didn't sound like Wu Tang on Kill Bill.
July 23, 2010, 2:44 p.m. CST
Nothing particularly exciting about those tracks. I'm sure it matches the darker less "fun" mood of this new Tron movie, but I am also kinda' sad that we won't be hearing something more like the great themes of the original movie. In fact, much about this new one feels "off".. like they are purposely avoiding many of the things that make Tron "Tron" in the first place. All the little touches we loved in the first and seemed so cool and unique to that "world" seem to have been replaced by more typical dark, realistic-looking stuff. I am still hoping the movie is really good, but it will also be quite different from what Tron was all about.
July 23, 2010, 2:45 p.m. CST
Well, it's better than Danny Elfman
July 23, 2010, 2:46 p.m. CST
Granted, the light cycles zooming through is distracting enough to piss you off at a point, and I'm not sure to the extent these snippets range. But it's oddly bereft of playfulness, energy and innovation. To be sure, I'm only a casual fan of Daft Punk, so this won't kill it for me, just disappointing when you know an artist could possibly hit it out of the park, but goes for a bunt instead.
July 23, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST
At least the movie looks cool, even for a non Tron guy. I mean, don't get me wrong, I appreciate it for it's 80's cheesiness, but that's all. It's no Raiders or Empire.
July 23, 2010, 3 p.m. CST
Perfectly captures the essence of a machine world, more so than say Don Davis' work on the matrix films.
July 23, 2010, 3 p.m. CST
And let the record reflect:Ive been around long enough to know that if you've got incidental music in your trailer, you're doing something wrong.
July 23, 2010, 3:17 p.m. CST
Its very likely the incidental is the only music that is ready yet... or at the very least all that they are ready to reveal. If any of these things said something like "CLU's Theme" you might have a reason to worry. As far as what music is used in the trailer goes... uh most trailers don't even use their own music. If its snowing, use Edward Sissorhands, if you need heroic, Her Magisty's Secret Service. That doesn't really work here because... well... nothing sounds like Tron except Tron. You could use the old score (probably a consideration), but that sets expectations off and I'm sure the original themes will be used... but I'd expect that would be something better suited to reveal in the context of the movie itself. Or at the very least a non-teaser trailer. Nothing about this movie makes me think that the score will be considered sub-par when it is all said and done. So far everything about this movie has seemed to have been done with love and respect to the original, without contraining itself to its conventions.
July 23, 2010, 3:19 p.m. CST
Very intriguing. F*** McG
July 23, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST
July 23, 2010, 3:28 p.m. CST
by Fixthe Fernback
YES! Your spot on. I too would love to see some of the Warp big guns score a movie, unfortunately in Aphex's case, he tried it with Chris Cunningham and Rubber Johnny, but bailed as he said he couldn't do it as it felt too much like work, so Chris ended up doing the music himself (remixing afx237 v7.)<P> Saying that though a good many years have gone by since then so maybe he'll be up for the challenge again?<P> I agree about Mass Effect, I also felt Tron had a bit of an influence on Mass Effect 2 in regards to the updated styling of the shields.<P>As regards to the new Tron Soundtrack I personally feel Daft Punk are overrated, and listening to the clips there's nothing I've heard so far that any other composer could have done. Though I won;t judge until the film comes out.<P>Anyway the long and short of it is, we need more electronic soundtracks!
July 23, 2010, 3:30 p.m. CST
I'm not trying to imply the score is sub par. As I said , what we've heard so far is pretty damn good. But it just doesn't have that sound in your ear thats instantly reminiscent of Daft Punk. <I'm gonna stfu now because when I see my name in a TB more than once it makes me feel all greasy.
July 23, 2010, 4:09 p.m. CST
That would be awesome! I love those guys. IDM masters.
July 23, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST
If he did stuff like he did on Generation Star Wars and Low On Ice.
July 23, 2010, 4:13 p.m. CST
Youtube has had a lot of this for at least a month as long as you have the patience to dig through everyone's shitty remixes with FL Studio or Ableton.
July 23, 2010, 4:25 p.m. CST
by Snake Foreskin
Or I, Robot. Junky, uninteresting music for sure. The original theme was way more interesting. This is repetitive and craptastic!
July 23, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST
July 23, 2010, 4:27 p.m. CST
...are a bit of a cop out. The pure Daft Punk stuff, however, sounds great. On the subject of electronica artists composing film scores, I feel I have to mention Plaid's score for Tekkonkinreet. Not really sci-fi but definitely worth mentioning. That opening theme gives me goosebumps every time.
July 23, 2010, 4:35 p.m. CST
Which is not to say that it is not enjoyable. It sounds compelling so far.
July 23, 2010, 4:38 p.m. CST
Did someone forget to write a melody? A theme? Something that's memorable? I'm not expecting Daft Punk to crib Wendy Carlos's famous Tron theme but c'mon, write a goddamn melody! The problem with today's soundtracks is the total absence of melody. It's all atmospheric mood music. Theme and variation are no where to be found. These clips from DP sound too much like a typical Hans Zimmer score. They could easily be Inception or Dark Night cues. It's a shame DP chose the safe route instead of doing something groundbreaking as Wendy Carlos did for the original Tron soundtrack. Her infectious melodies and combination of synth and orchestra created a unique soundtrack that helped define the visual world of Tron. Unless Disney is holding back a lot of the soundtrack, or DP is still scoring it, I'm afraid this soundtrack is another boring, Zimmeresque mood piece. I hope I'm wrong.
July 23, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST
<p>My gut feeling is that this is pretty representative of what DP have turned in for the score. I love ambient / drone music, but for a story like TRON I prefer the melodies and angular sounds of Carlos' original.</p> <p>But therein lies the rub-- the TRON: Legacy trailers looks like it's not going to BE a "story like TRON". The visuals match the music-- brooding and flat.</p>
July 23, 2010, 5:39 p.m. CST
July 23, 2010, 5:39 p.m. CST
...a lot different to the original in terms of tone anyway, then this stuff that Daft Punk has come up with suits it pretty well I reckon. Even if it's a little derivitive of a lot of other scores.<P>Reminds me that I'd always wished that Jean Michel Jarr had been given a crack at an 'electronica' Sci-Fi score years ago...
July 23, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST
July 23, 2010, 5:45 p.m. CST
Daft Punk was supposed to release a new album last year. Wendy Carlos was supposed to come out of retirement and make the score of her lifetime. So those FUCKERS got Daft Punk to do some of the most boring, Effman-meets-Glass piece of bland production music soundtrack with bits and pieces of something vaguely elecronic. If this is what Daft Punk releases to their audience, then they are DEAD to me. FUCKING. DEAD.
July 23, 2010, 6:20 p.m. CST
Zimmer's Inception score runs circles around this. Also, this HAS to be old news... because I'm positive I heard this playing in my chiropractor's waiting room last week.
July 23, 2010, 7:27 p.m. CST
...but I sure wish he'd got a crack at the big screen. Thanks for that info. though KilliK.
July 23, 2010, 7:30 p.m. CST
this is heartbreakingly bad. I'm a huge Daft Punk nerd and have always defended pretty much everything they've ever done. Even the slightly lacklustre 'Human After All' LP had it's selling points, but this is a unfathomable disappointment. These clips could have been recorded by any number of hack composers; there is nothing special about them at all.
July 23, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST
July 23, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST
and when it doesn't sound like what they imagined. Daft Punk sucks to them.
July 23, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST
<p>Thanks for the link, Orionsangels. Time to readjust my expectations for this. I really think the curved, glossy "iPod" production design in this is much less interesting than the way the original TRON looked. To the extent that I think they botched the look of this new movie.</p>
July 23, 2010, 11:46 p.m. CST
by Mr Incredible
They could have probably done a better job. This electro-droning music wasn't doing it for me. Would have fit just fine in The Dark Knight. The light cycle game on the Tron website was a nice time waster, though.
July 23, 2010, 11:47 p.m. CST
SCOTTPILGRIM SUCKS MY BALLS!
July 24, 2010, 12:20 a.m. CST
...and I'm not impressed. I was hoping for something that sounded more like Daft Punk writing a Tron movie score. Those samples could be from any number of unspectacular composers. Very bland.
July 24, 2010, 12:22 a.m. CST
I love their music and if the entire score sounds like this it won't do a damn thing towards changing that opinion. I'm just disappointed with the samples I've heard thus far because they don't stand out as anything original, or related to Daft Punk (to my ears). I'm hoping they work better in the film, though.
July 24, 2010, 1:16 a.m. CST
Several months before their release. I think forming an opinion about a film months in advance befor you even see it is an exercise in aesthetic masturbation. You're pretty much going to overanalyze what little information you've got into the ground, and you'll head into that theatre completely unable to simply watch the film for what it is, rather than what you wish it to be.
July 24, 2010, 1:16 a.m. CST
I like Kraftwerk and Larry Fast (Synergy). Maybe Morton Subotnick's Silver Apples of the Moon would've been too weird for the movie, though.
July 24, 2010, 1:59 a.m. CST
1. Some movies are obvously DOA. Tron is not one of them. Scott Pilgrim will be mildly successful, but relative to the buzz everyone is trying to make? It wont hit that high. But we all know Captain America and Thor are not going to be the next Iron Man. Green Lantern looks like a maybe. Green Hornet will be good for a laugh, but not the treatment it deserved. Should be a period piece. I dont understand why everything needs to be "updated"...see Sherlock Holmes. I consider that POS DOA. It made cash, but no one really cared about the movie. <p>Daft punk is going to make a cool soundtrackm but not a score. Then again, the trailer only has trailer level music, and I have liked that so far.
July 24, 2010, 3:15 a.m. CST
As has been said, these are looped pieces taken from the website. They could just be for the website, just be for the trailers, just be from the videogame, just be pieces of the better score when you hear it. And scoring a film is not about making some great piece of music that you can dance to in a club, it's about complimenting whatever scene it's playing behind. It's to be invisible for the most part. As typical of most people today to get bent out of shape at the littlest thing, we haven't really heard anything yet. So just hang on there before you consider anyone dead or finished or whatever. Sheesh! The idiocy!!! But then again this eneration is the sort that judges entire movies from a screencap or a trailer... So I guess advertising does matter more for today's audience than anything of actual substance and merit. Yeah these little music bits thus far aren't that exciting, but c'mon...! No need to commit suicide yet.
July 24, 2010, 7:14 a.m. CST
Also hearing some Steam Machine and Aerodynamic like samples. Can't wait till they tour so they can add this album to VS with their old stuff, should be beyond epic.
July 24, 2010, 8:04 a.m. CST
That's what I would prefer this soundtrack to be...
July 24, 2010, 8:26 a.m. CST
Mix those two and that's what this sounds like.
July 24, 2010, 10:23 a.m. CST
Daft Punk is doing the score for what will be the best 3d film of all time.
July 24, 2010, 11:20 a.m. CST
Check Human After All for proof.
July 24, 2010, 12:01 p.m. CST
<P>Not liking to much what I have heard of Daft Punk's Tron: Legacy theme up to this point.</P> <P>It's almost ambient (ever wonder where the name 'Ambien,' the sleep aid, comes from? Now you know). It seems to almost fade into the background, and if those samples are any indicator, it doesn't even come close to the masterwork that was Wendy Carlos' original Tron theme.</P> <P>Is it a dealbreaker? Of course not, but I actually listen to the theme to Tron this day and am disappointed that Wendy Carlos will not be back.</P>
July 24, 2010, 12:03 p.m. CST
I always thought that Human After All wasn't nearly as bad as everyone said it was; it just had way too much filler on it. They should have just released the 3 or 4 stand out tracks as an EP and left it at that.
July 24, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST
sounds like they've been sidelined by an orchestrator who's drawn from a TDK temp track and some very 'stock' sounding symphonic beds. Was hoping for a more heavy electronic/sample bias with the kind of infectious grooves, synth textures and quirkiness associated with the Punk's past output. The Tron Theme that was used to promote the initial junkets had the majority of geeks stoked, so what happened? Carlo's score was seminal, currently this falls way short of the mark.
July 24, 2010, 12:54 p.m. CST
July 24, 2010, 1:03 p.m. CST
<P>While I admit that I haven't heard too much of what Daft Punk is bring to Tron: Legacy, what I have heard doesn't hold a handle to Wendy Carlos' work.</P> <P>I mean it isn't even close. It isn't as dramatic. It doesn't seem to evoke a sense of wonder, of grandeur, like Wendy Carlos' score did.</P> I mean from 'Birth of Tron' to the last track, her score is so great that it barely needs the film</P> <P>In fact, if truth be told the visuals of Tron are what drew me to it in the first place, though it's the music that I most remember.</P>
July 24, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST
Last night, I listened a few times to the end theme from TRON and Journey's Only Solutions on my computer. I bought the soundtrack on vinyl but I think I gave it away with my other records years ago. I also like Suzanne Ciani's music. I think her "Seven Waves" album is nice, although a bit different. She did the music for the old Xenon pinball machine.
July 24, 2010, 3:17 p.m. CST
by Motoko Kusanagi
July 24, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST
Froese seems to have gotten his muse back in recent years.
July 24, 2010, 7:30 p.m. CST
...a Tron sequel featuring little to none of the original film's themes. That's a bad, bad storytelling choice. The musical continuity is as important as the world/character continuity.
July 24, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST
by the Green Gargantua
serious this is crap. Tron already has music remix it you electroHACKs!
July 24, 2010, 9:21 p.m. CST
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July 25, 2010, 1:50 p.m. CST
Hey I'm 45 years old. I had Wendy Carlos' original TRON album and listened to it all the time. It's a classic. That said, Her score would not fit this film. It's a darker film than the first. I think it fits perfectly. All the old guys need to stop being so nostalgic...
July 25, 2010, 6:19 p.m. CST
<P>that these droning, colorless music clips match the brooding tone of the footage.</P> <P>My feeling is that the film-makers botched fundamentally making Legacy this brooding. "Dark TRON" could be done well, but the clips I've seen so far is just by the numbers "edgy".</P> <P>The 4 "hot" programs that prepare Flynn Jr. for the games.. and the way things are shot in this.. Puh-lease. It appears to have about 1/10th the creativity and sense-of-wonder the original did.</P> <P>And I'm not hating.. I'll be there, probably on opening day. Just observing..</P>
July 26, 2010, 5:45 p.m. CST
right when Sam Flynn saw the machine. I just jizzgasmed. Especially at the glitch drum-break near the end. Needs more of that shit, less of this crappy Blade Runner wannabe ambience.