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A Few More TRANSFORMERS 3 Filming Pics! + The Supercool TRANSFORMERS: WAR FOR CYBERTRON Game Is On Sale For A Few More Hours...

Published at: July 20, 2010, 3:54 p.m. CST by merrick

Merrick here...
More set pics from TRANSFORMERS 3's Chicago shoot are online over at The Chive (HERE). Pretty much the same thing we've been seeing over the past few days, although this set of images does reveal something about the armored race cars we've seen in previous pics. We've seen only one so far (to the best of my knowledge) but, evidently, it's actually part of a squad...or herd...or gaggle...or whatever groups sentient morphing weaponized vehicles travel in. Click on the racers below to see more shots from the filming. I have no idea how these will work out in the final film, but at face value they're dopey as hell...and kinda cool.
Meanwhile, Amazon has made the recently released TRANSFORMERS: WAR FOR CYBERTRON (XBOX 360, PS3) video game its Gold Box special for today only - its price has been dropped from $56.99 to $42.98. Is the game perfect? Not by a long shot - but it's a helluva lot of fun, easily the best TRANSFORMERS video game ever released, and it's the only title I've played all the way through in the last...four year or so. WAR FOR CYBERTRON is bigger, more hardcore, and more inventive than anything we've seen in any TRANSFORMERS films to date...or anything we're likely to see in the future. 1/2 of the sprawling campaign mode (set above, beneath, and on the surface of Cybertron) is playable as one of multiple Decepticons...the second half of the campaign allows you to choose your Autobot character. You can switch these characters as you go, and even change difficulty levels. There's also a wild and wooly online element. By the way, if you pick up the game, check out its fun closing credits - and be sure to detach those big-ass gun turrets you'll see sitting around. Imagine being a Transformer walking around with the equivalent of the Death Star's anti-aircraft canons...blasting the shit out of enemies who explode, vaporise, and even splatter on your screen. IGN posted another assessment of WAR FOR CYBERTRON HERE. You can find the sale-priced game itself HERE for the next 9 or 10 hours or so.
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  • July 20, 2010, 3:56 p.m. CST

    YES!

    by shartron

    The game is very fun and true to the series. Worth the money.

  • July 20, 2010, 3:57 p.m. CST

    FIRST!!

    by RPLocke

    OH MAN! I LOVE ROBOTS!!

  • July 20, 2010, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Robots in disguise!!

    by iceman199

    Those vehicles are the perfect cover. Nobody would pay ANY attention to cars that looked like that!

  • July 20, 2010, 4:02 p.m. CST

    doubt those race cars are transformers

    by Bouncy X

    probably just "suped" up by the humans to help out or whatnot. although another possibility is that they are transformers who get damaged and cant transform anymore so they have that done to them so they can still fight.

  • July 20, 2010, 4:04 p.m. CST

    bigger and better

    by 2007

    "WAR FOR CYBERTRON is bigger, more hardcore, and more inventive than anything we've seen in any TRANSFORMERS films to date...or anything we're likely to see in the future." Name one comic book film that's had a game made after it that you cannot say that exact same thing about. Games just have more freedom to be hardcore for some reason. That arkham game was actually alot cooler than any batman movie. and lets not get started on wolverine or xmen.

  • July 20, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST

    More likely...

    by Saracen1

    they are transformers in "high-speed" mode or something like that. An intermediate transformation mode.

  • July 20, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST

    For all the shit Bay gets...

    by Edman

    He's doing an awful lot practical and on location as opposed to just green-screening everything. I tend to find most of his stuff to be entertaining eye candy, but even for the haters, you have to admit he does not follow the trend of doing everything CGI. There's a bit of old school in him.

  • July 20, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST

    The racecars are most likely Stunticons

    by seagrass

    and since Silverbolt the Aerialbot is supposed to be in the movie, looks like we might finally get some real gestalt-on-gestalt bot action.

  • July 20, 2010, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Yeah,but in transofrmers 3...is the mind the scene of the crime?

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    If not, who fucking cares!

  • July 20, 2010, 4:09 p.m. CST

    X-Men Origins: Wolverine (the game)

    by seagrass

    was quite fun, and way better than the movie.

  • July 20, 2010, 4:11 p.m. CST

    no thank you

    by Stifler's Mom

    worst series ever.

  • July 20, 2010, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Nascar? I already hate this shit.

    by HoboCode

    Sigh.

  • July 20, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST

    The characterizations in WFC were dead on..

    by ganymede3010

    I mean everything we're clamoring for in Bayformers is present in that game. This is how hardcore this fucking game is.***SPOILER*** There's a boss battle in the Autobot campaign where you get to square off against Soundwave. Just when we're about to kill him he ejects Rumble and he starts talking shit wailing on the ground in front of you with the pile-drivers. Seriuosly, this game will give you epic nerdgasms from beginning to end. Lastly, Megatron was finally done right. I can't understand why none of these movie writers can get his personality correct. The game depicts Megatron as reckless, however, it doesn't forget that he's a masterful tactician and maniacally brilliant; it also reminds us that a lot of Megatrons seemingly brilliant plans are often sighted.

  • July 20, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST

    "groups sentient morphing weaponized vehicles"

    by BadlyDubbedPorn

    I belive it's called a "Flange"

  • July 20, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST

    As long as TF3 doesn't...

    by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder

    ...Harm a hair on Hot Doug's, I don't give a fuck. Personally, I'd like to see them destroy the entire Dan Ryan, so they have to start all over again. I hate that fuckling road. <p>"Fuckling". I LIKE that. Has anybody copyrighted that?

  • July 20, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST

    **short-sighted**

    by ganymede3010

  • July 20, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Nascars, Chase Scene + Michael Bay = EPIC!

    by ganymede3010

    If there's one thing this blowhard can do it's shooting chase scenes. So I'm all for the Nascars, that shit is going to sound bad ass in the IMAX theater!

  • July 20, 2010, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Sorry

    by GeorgeZip

    These movies are just plain dull - and what's-her-face isn't even in this one to keep you interested between the "action"

  • July 20, 2010, 4:33 p.m. CST

    WFC is the best TRANSFORMERS movie we'll get.

    by blackwood

    I lurved it. Repetitive, sure. But the story was great in a TRANSFORMERS way.<p>I know everyone here likes link whoring but you can get WFC cheaper at WalMart. Under 39 I think.

  • July 20, 2010, 4:43 p.m. CST

    LOVE THE MULTIPLAYER DEMO

    by the Green Gargantua

  • July 20, 2010, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Looking at those NASCAR cars reminds me of Iron Man 2

    by RPLocke

    shudder.

  • July 20, 2010, 4:53 p.m. CST

    that war machine maquette up there is so sick!!!

    by ludmir88

    i want one please.

  • July 20, 2010, 5 p.m. CST

    They look like,,,,,,,

    by D o o d

    toy cars made from drink cans.<p>I will reiterate at this point that this movie is really going to suck. How do I know? I go by past track record!

  • July 20, 2010, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Like I said before...

    by Denty420

    ... this holds about as much appeal for me as a knitting needle up the jacksy.

  • July 20, 2010, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Bay-riffic

    by Excelciyour

    This is a great way for Transformers 3 to generate buzz without revealing key plot points. Even as an old-school Transformers fan from the 80's I skipped part 2 but might check this one out.

  • July 20, 2010, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Jr, Jimmie Johnson, and Montoya?

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    Jr sucks...so does Juan Pablo...random choices

  • July 20, 2010, 5:31 p.m. CST

    taking a page from the animated movie.....

    by matchesmalone2380

    my guess is that based on the futuristic look and colors...I think this is Kup, Blur and Hot Rod.

  • July 20, 2010, 5:34 p.m. CST

    The Nascars are Decepticons

    by ganymede3010

    Stunticons most likely. The scene being shot in Chicago is the Autobots and the Military chasing these Nascars through the City.

  • July 20, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Can't 'Robofy' Nascar Stock Cars.

    by professor murder

    It would be way out of hand to have Transformers copy Nascar stock cars. And why would people supe up these cars for the sport? Not to mention that they are in the CITY, not on a track. The only explanation I have is that they got all sparked during a race, transformed up a bit, and sped out of the track, under control of maybe soundwave or another transformer for a mission or something. Who knows though...?

  • July 20, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Good old Harry

    by Lemure_v2

    Wondering if he held back a TF3 pic so he get paid to do a quick plug for Amazon. Here's mine: Want something cheaper than the TF game that lasts longer and is more satisfying? Read Indigo by Marcus Woolcott. It's the best science fiction novel you've never read.

  • July 20, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Reminds me of a scene from "Metropolitan"

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Where they were all like, "Is that the only coat you have? *guffaw* You'll freeze!"

  • July 20, 2010, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Oh goody!

    by I am_NOTREAL

    ANOTHER Transformers TB, and it's only Tuesday? One's cup truly runneth over! (The last one didn't really live up to my expectations, though. It was like a nice burger when I was craving steak. Still completely edible, but it just didn't fully satisfy).

  • July 20, 2010, 5:59 p.m. CST

    I am_NOTREAL

    by D o o d

    I've already said it's going to be shit, what more do you want...?!!

  • July 20, 2010, 5:59 p.m. CST

    I had a dream about Shia

    by Rommel Catuncan

    I saw him on the street and I was like "Shia! Shia!" At first he was nice but then he got annoyed because I kept following him. Then I was like "But I'm from AICN!" He was not impressed.

  • July 20, 2010, 6 p.m. CST

    Merrick and Harry are diff people..

    by oneblood

    You do know that, dontcha Lemure?? Merrick posted this, not Harry. But, yeah, it made for a good product plug.

  • July 20, 2010, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Amazon.com Advert In Disguise!

    by Axl Z

    I brought a transformable DVD of the first film and it was insane I tell ya! Turned into Optimus and then a DVD case!! Wow

  • July 20, 2010, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Axl Z Cool! I rmember during the Transformers auction

    by RPLocke

    I bid on the liscence plate that was on Bumblebee but I lost it.

  • July 20, 2010, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Detach or attach?

    by D.Vader

    Why would I want to detach awesomely huge arm cannons??

  • July 20, 2010, 6:23 p.m. CST

    War For Cybertron is infinitely better

    by MattmanReturns

    than either of the Transformers movies, even for a casual Transformers fan like me. Enjoyed the hell outta that game.

  • July 20, 2010, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Armond White Approves

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    Better than Toy Story 3.

  • July 20, 2010, 6:51 p.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS: WAR FOR CYBERTRON is better than both all three mo

    by Angelus_420

    It had a great story that made sense and actually had that spirit that made Transformers so great in the 80s and the what was lacking that made the first two films and no doubt the third crap. Normally I would never say a film is garbage without seeing it but no matter how many bandages Bay puts on this new film it won't repair the damage done by two completely garbage films.

  • July 20, 2010, 7:08 p.m. CST

    If it's 3D, it's going to be converted.

    by Bronx Cheer

    When I walked by the 'splosions etc last night, I noticed that the Arri 435 on a chase car was all by its lonesome. The significance of this? Well, I have been looking for 3D rigs ever since these folks showed up in my neighborhood, and I have yet to see a proper 3D rig. (For those not in the know, a true 3D shooting rig consists of two camera working in concert to create true 3D -interocular and convergence - and these guys aren't shooting that way.) So this is going to be another 3D bullshit job. Hey, it;s going to be shot anyway: it's Bay, and it's Transformers, and it is a license to print money for the investors, so why would they want to rent twice the gear to make a proper 3D film? Line up at the box office, suckers.

  • July 20, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Corrections for my hasty typos

    by Bronx Cheer

    "Hey, it's going to be SHIT anyway." It felt good to reiterate that anyway.

  • July 20, 2010, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Energon rules!

    by AxeEmAll

    All-Spark sucks big time.

  • July 20, 2010, 7:37 p.m. CST

    @ oneblood

    by Lemure_v2

    Oh, I know but have you ever seen them together? Is Harry actually the sole contributer to the site...? We may never know...

  • July 20, 2010, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Transformers: WFC RULES!

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    Just saying.

  • July 20, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Okay, we get it the video game is good

    by RPLocke

    Too bad I won't spend 50 bucks on it.

  • July 20, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST

    lemure_v2

    by oneblood

    you are far too wise for your own good. It'll be like the ending to "Identity" Capone, Merrick, Quint, Herc, Massa and so on are all in Harry's head.

  • July 20, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST

    my dick transformed as i looked at those pics!

    by DioxholsterReturns

    im soo looking forward to all this!

  • July 20, 2010, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Well at least the action will be good

    by RPLocke

    story? Who knows.

  • July 20, 2010, 9:02 p.m. CST

    converted 3D wouldnt be a surprise

    by Bouncy X

    considering how much Bay said he didnt like it after doing tests and pretty much implied his hand was forced in the decision to use it.

  • July 20, 2010, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Also of note to Transformers fans: the new girl's

    by themikejonas

    ...character's name is CARLY! http://bit.ly/dgL4ND

  • July 20, 2010, 10:37 p.m. CST

    FREE LINDSAY FREE LINDSAY!!

    by RPLocke

  • July 20, 2010, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Damnit that's what the cars should have....

    by thecomedian

    looked like in a balls-to-the-wall REAL DEATHRACE 2000 REMAKE; Super powerful, deadly Nascars. DAMN YOU PAUL ANDERSON!

  • July 21, 2010, 12:26 a.m. CST

    The Game sucks big time

    by onezeroone

    Traded it in for Dead Space.

  • July 21, 2010, 1:16 a.m. CST

    I heard the game was shit too

    by RPLocke

    The trailer for it put me to sleep.

  • July 21, 2010, 1:31 a.m. CST

    If the War for Cybertron trailer put you to sleep

    by Nerd Rage

    maybe Transformers isn't for you. I heard they're working on a new Pokemon game which should be more your speed.

  • July 21, 2010, 2:17 a.m. CST

    There has been more threads on TF3

    by sam jacksons wig

    than any other fucking movie recently. Stop taking pictures of cars and "Bayhem"!!!! WE GET THE POINT! Michael fucking Bay is shooting Transformers 3- it has lots of cars in it. It has lots of things blowing up in it. It has men with guns shooting at things in it. So did the other two worthless pieces of unadulterated shit.

  • July 21, 2010, 2:20 a.m. CST

    the new girl's name is Carly????

    by sam jacksons wig

    It should be "talentless bitch who can't act for toffee (not a pre-requisite for any TF movie by the way)and only got the part because she took Bays miniscule cock in her arse." <br><br> There is NOTHING on Earth or in Heaven that can stop this movie from being seven kinds of crap.....

  • July 21, 2010, 2:22 a.m. CST

    onezeroone

    by sam jacksons wig

    I traded Dead Space in for "Hannah Montana singstar....."

  • July 21, 2010, 2:34 a.m. CST

    I was worming the dog the other day.....

    by sam jacksons wig

    and I thought "I would rather be doing this than watching a movie directed by Michael Fucking Bay..."

  • July 21, 2010, 4:12 a.m. CST

    TOO SOON!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    This series shall rest.

  • July 21, 2010, 4:14 a.m. CST

    micro machines more than meets the eye...

    by theonecalledshoe

    I appreciate some of the bayformers (optimus prime for example) but for some reason I get the feeling for the need of some headmasters or the scraplets (creatures that eat transformers.)

  • July 21, 2010, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Sam jacksons wig! No way!!!

    by onezeroone

    That is exactly what am gonna do next.

  • July 21, 2010, 5:14 a.m. CST

    onezeroone

    by sam jacksons wig

    Then I traded "Hannah Montana singstar" in for " Dead Space..." I realised that it was better.....

  • July 21, 2010, 5:53 a.m. CST

    Are they mixing the Trashfuckmers 3 with the video game...

    by AsimovLives

    ... so that by osmosis some of the good things about the came can leak into the movie? Is this an atempt to make the movie look good? If i were the people responsible for the game, i would feel immensilly insulted.

  • July 21, 2010, 5:54 a.m. CST

    For all the shit Bay gets...

    by AsimovLives

    ... he should get more.

  • July 21, 2010, 6 a.m. CST

    Mickey Bay is indeed making this movies for the NASCAR crowd...

    by AsimovLives

    ... and by that he must be pushing for the George W. Bush twice voters, Fox News addicted, bible fundamentalists, TV evangelist worshipers, Iraq War supporters, xenophobic, inbreed, ignorant illiterate redneck crowd. Basically, his faithful publico!

  • July 21, 2010, 6:47 a.m. CST

    Fucking transformers and Bay!!!!!

    by sam jacksons wig

    It is cock. Pure cock. The mother fucker makes NO apologies for him kicking the audience in the head and calling them "stupid cunts for paying to see my shit movies".<br><br> I aint jealous of the mulleted swine, I just hate no talent bastards who foist shit like he does onto a nodding dog audience who continue to swallow the fetid wank, lick their lips, say thank you and can I have some more.... <br><br> There isn't mountain high enough from which I can shout my contempt of this evil celluloid raping dirt bag piece of mung. <br><br> If he had talent and squandered it, at least it would be something. There is no excuse for what he does. He knows he is making shit. And he knows that the public will keep watching the shit he makes. <br><br> Pretty soon people HAVE to catch on to him; they are already doing it with Jerry Bruckheimer- Prince of Persia and Sorcerors Apprentice both made for around $150m and BOTH fucking US domestic flops!!!! You can't just throw effects at a screen with no cohesive story to bond them and expect to have a hit on your hands. <br><br> BAY!!! People will sniff you out, you FUCKING RAT!!!!!

  • gee I don't know Crank and it's sequel and a number of other films that try their best to "insult" the audience.

  • July 21, 2010, 7:09 a.m. CST

    Bruckheimer

    by 2007

    has anyone noticed how much money bruckheimer makes or rather doesn't make when he doesn't have bay make his films? what does that tell you

  • July 21, 2010, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Does the game have any connection to the movie?

    by JoeD

    Or is it one of those pseudo prequels that takes elements from a bunch of the different iterations over the years? Thanks.

  • July 21, 2010, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Merrick, if you're going to promote video games

    by AmpuleOfLove

    promote Red Dead Redemption, not War for Cybertron.

  • July 21, 2010, 7:44 a.m. CST

    War For Cybertron

    by the new transported man

    As an old-school TF dork, I dig it. Good gameplay, environments, playable characters, & multiplayer. They really should've packed in more non-playable characters from TF lore, though. And I see why it's already on sale after only a month or 2 - I'm on XBox, & the multiplayer lobby rarely has more than 1,000 players in deathmatch. Nobody's playing it, & that's too bad. It's weird, I actually feel good about paying full price for it, like I supported something. Usually I couldn't give 2 shits, gimme that savings or GTFO.

  • July 21, 2010, 7:49 a.m. CST

    JoeD

    by the new transported man

    Yeah, it's one of those pseduo-prequels. A few old characters, a few newer ones, & a story that takes place before the original cartoon series.

  • July 21, 2010, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Thanks transported man

    by JoeD

    Those sorts of things always annoy and confuse me until I realize it's a video game about a cartoon about a line of toys. Some things you have to enjoy it for what it is. I might pick this up when the price comes down a bit. It sounds like a blast.

  • July 21, 2010, 7:57 a.m. CST

    2007

    by sam jacksons wig

    Crank is a completely different movie- It wasn't passed off as "art" or pandered to fanboy wet dreams......it didn't try and insult the audience- the movie was braindead from the start and people knew what they were gtting. <br><br> Not so with transformers...

  • July 21, 2010, 7:57 a.m. CST

    *you have to enjoy for what they are

    by JoeD

    My 5th grade teachers would be ashamed...

  • July 21, 2010, 8:38 a.m. CST

    sam jacksons wig

    by AsimovLives

    You said it as it is.<br><br>Our friend 2007 said somethign to the effect that Bruck's moves have lost money when Bay is not making them. This is not so (sadly). The Pirates movies have made more money for Bruck then any movie Bay ever made for him. In fact, the first Pirate movie was made when Bay still worked for him. The first P*irate and Bab Boys were released the same year. And BB2 underperformed to exptactions, while Pirates overperformed beyond anybody's dreams and predictions. The National Treasure movies, also produced by Bruck, have been pretty sucessful commercial hits as well. Actually, Bruck ends up turning profits every year because he produces two or 3 movies a year, he always has his back covered. Expect this year, where both his movies flopped. Bruck must be beyond puzzled!!

  • July 21, 2010, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Bab Boys = Bad Boys 2

    by AsimovLives

  • July 21, 2010, 8:42 a.m. CST

    The thing that really hurts me about the TRASHFUCKMER movies is.

    by AsimovLives

    ... that Spielberg and Dreamworks are associated with this shit. By all rights, this tripe should had ben a Bruckheimer produced movies. It's Spielberg who should be producing the Pirates and the Sorceror Apprendice's movies. When did this too traded places?

  • July 21, 2010, 10:06 a.m. CST

    so what your saying is

    by 2007

    people don't expect shakespere from the crank movies...ok i see. as for the bruck, I admit he does find a way. that being said this year is looking terrible for him without his pirates franchise. as for when they traded places, (berg and bruck) it happened when the berg decided he wanted to make money whereas the bruck decided he wanted to start losing it.

  • July 21, 2010, 10:36 a.m. CST

    2007

    by sam jacksons wig

    No- what I am saying is that Crank was NOT a tentpole summer movie costing $200m to make, with such high expectations from a rabid fanbase who have followed since the 80's, only to have their dreams CRUSHED TO FUCK by a talentless piece of shit only interested in blowing things up. <br><br> Crank cost tuppence and a pickled egg to make in comparison, never made apologies for what it was and catered to a different audience. It's directors set out to make shameles bollocks.<br><br> Bay, on the other hand, believes that he is making QUALITY movies that are SO SHIT it is unbelievable. The fucker is so far up his own arse he can smell his own shit. Who put him there? People who pay to watch his tripe time and time again. <br><br> Well, fuck that cunt.

  • July 21, 2010, 10:55 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by sam jacksons wig

    "Bruck must be beyond puzzled!!"<br><br> Not so, my friend. All he has to do is look at the quality of the movies he has produced this year and call them for what they are- turgid, souless, popcorn bollocks that have failed to ignite anything in a movie going audience except indifference. <br><br> The mega-blockbuster has its place in cinema, but has to have soul and a story to give it credence. Look at Jaws- that movie INVENTED the summer blockbuster movie. If all other followed that simple premise (great story+great acting+suspense+great directing= fucking iconic HUGE BASTARD OF A MOVIE) the cinema would be a much better experience, apart from the money grabbing franchise waste of time it has become.<br><br> Look at this year! What a fucking waste of time! Quality pieces of cinema like Inception will never hit the dizzy heights of a Transformers movie where box office is concerned, but is a far superior movie by ALL accounts (including CGI and effects.)The rest of the year you can just write off- rescued by animation in the forms of How to Train your Dragon and Toy Story 3... movies that had SOUL and A PLOT and a decent SCRIPT and catered to the AUDIENCE, not the whims of a meniacal MEGALOMANIAC LIKE MICHAEL FUCKING BAY!!!!!!!

  • July 21, 2010, 11:45 a.m. CST

    expectations?

    by 2007

    bay has said himself that he makes his films for nothing more than entertainment to the pop corn audience. It's talk backers that seem to think he's trying to do something more and failing. As for the quality of his films; why is it all the "summer blockbusters" of this very year arn't making transformers money? honestly, is it because bays just happen to speak to the evil in all of us moreso than clash of the titans and the Ateam? give me a break, he does what he does, he makes no illusions about it and he does it well. the fact that you hate his films more then others seems to me to be a matter of sour grapes due to profits and popularity.

  • July 21, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST

    plot?

    by 2007

    curious how many people here even know what the word really means. plot? how many average movie goers can surmise the plot of inception vs the amount of people that can do it for Transformers. Inception didn't even have an ending and we praise that as an accomplishment.

  • July 21, 2010, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Game?

    by Lambchops42

    http://www.toolian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9924&start=45

  • July 21, 2010, 1:21 p.m. CST

    2007

    by AsimovLives

    The difference between what Bay says to cater to teh audiences and what he does is abysmal. He can bitch and scream all he wants about his all his movies are simple enpretentious entertaiment, the fact is, and given the evidence from his own movies, he does think he is making this serious important movies. His own style of self-importance are beyond obvious in his movies. I guess many people think that it's the goffy comedy in his movies that defeats the argument that he doesn't take his movies too seriously. Thing is, what he tries with thwe stupid crass comedy in his movies is to pull a Spielberg, where in the same movie you have serious scenes aliviated with situational and cinrcunstancial comedy relief. The thing is, what constitutes comedy for Bay is just the crassest unfunny shit imaginable. So, he mixes his own deranged self f self-importance and mixes it with the most juvenille type of comedy imaginable. and for the lesser attentiv,e it looks as if Bay is just making light-hearted movies. But he isn't. He does thing his movies are important. The way he makes them shows his misguided intentions and blindless. Nothignis more obviosu then that scene in TRASHFUCKMERS 1 when that yellow robot is captured, and the scene plays with the score playing as if it was a scene from Schindler's List! Nobody claiming they are just makind lighthearted movies would pull that. Bay trhing she is delievering pearls of cinemawhenever he makes a movie. He truly believes he'as god's gift to cinema on earth. The difference between what he believes and what he is couldn't be bigger. You could shove the entire solar system inbetween from the Sun to the Oorth Cloud.

  • July 21, 2010, 1:22 p.m. CST

    2007

    by AsimovLives

    You realsie that ther are more then one type of ending a story, do you? Ever heard of open endings?

  • July 21, 2010, 1:30 p.m. CST

    I wish Rockstar would do a TF game

    by OnO

    I would love Rockstar to put out some DC content where you get to play as Transformer and run havok in Liberty City. All the while Rule 34 is in effect with HOT OIL mode is on. Fuck you Goldberg, Ligner, and Shyster.

  • July 21, 2010, 1:43 p.m. CST

    touching scenes and important messages

    by 2007

    so youre sayting that just by including sense of weight he is infact attempting(and failing) to make a serious and substantial film? Incorrect, the fact is is you remove all of those scenes from the film than he would truly and finally be what you all paint/claim shout he is. His films are silly but they are grounded in good morals...no he's not the devil and he's not trying to turn the children of the world into devils like I've heard somewhere here. He makes funy little films comparable to light hearted comdies. Yes comedies tend to have morals and good intentions, not just films based on novels. something about mary as a random example. well meaning underdog overcomes luckstar world...etc. infact not many comedies don't play on emotional cards look at all of sandlers romps....Point being Armageddon is a fun film for the blue collar everyman to walk into and not feel like an idiot because he didnt' read the English patient in college or cannot break down the concept of a dream past the difference between a nightmere and a wet one. Even in crank the "good" guys win over the "bad" and his girlfriend mourns over his situation in a scene or two, does that mean the crank films are failures at art house movies. ...just last year Harry compared TF2 to the best picture winning Hurt locker? and then weeks later praised GI Joe...give me a break.

  • July 21, 2010, 1:46 p.m. CST

    open ending

    by 2007

    sure I get it...my theater audience moaned when the credits rolled. in my mind that's like pulling a lost and holding out on information in an attempt to confuse the audience into thinking your film is so smart they have to really think to get it. that's not smart, it's gimmicky. Smart is the brilliant story structure of Million Dollar Baby.

  • July 21, 2010, 1:50 p.m. CST

    2007

    by sam jacksons wig

    Sour grapes? Oh fuck off! <br><br> I have no issues at all when movies do well, or should I say movies that deserve to do well do well.<br><br> If a movie maker sets out to make a quality piece of cinema and it gets a) the recognition it deserves and b) the revenue to match it then I am nothing but a happy camper. <br><br> The fact that Bay doesn't even set out to make a decent movie, fills it with mindless car chase after mindless car chase after explosion after crass racist self serving jokes after explosion after shoot em up scene after explosion after run away scene after explosion, THEN belittles his audience by saying that he is just making popcorn trash to pilfer peoples hard earned $$$$- THAT pisses me off!!!! <br><br> The fact that there are more deserving directors out there in need of a break (Neil Marshall, Fernando Meirelles, Richard Linklater and others...)and this hack bastard keeps getting work because his movies make a zillion $ and have all the soul of a child serial killer makes me sick. <br><br> As for the plot of Inception against the plot of Transformers...... what fucking plot for Transformers? All people remember is a fucking truck morphing into a robot in disguise.

  • July 21, 2010, 2:09 p.m. CST

    sam, asi

    by rogueleader66

    You know what the sad part is? It's that Bay doesn't give a rat's as what people think of him, especially people like us. He is sitting in his Lamborghini sipping Cristal, getting blown by models, thinking that all he had to do for this was make loud, expensive, explosion filled movies. Any one of us could walk up to him and tell him what a hack jerk off whatever he is and he wouldn't even care.

  • July 21, 2010, 2:13 p.m. CST

    rogue

    by sam jacksons wig

    It is one of the things I hate about the pompous turd- his complete distain for his audience.

  • July 21, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST

    piece of cinema?

    by 2007

    I find it interesting how people throw that word around as if it's a difinitive adjective. there are many differnt forms of good cinema. the modern idea is how well a director adapted a long novel ala revolution road where as there are people that believe in going to the theater to experience something they can't find in a book. All of sergio leone's films are example of pure cinema imo but the critics of the time called them tripe. bay may not adapt novelas but he and his crew work painstaking hours to craft out what some would ligetimately call cinema. and the fact that some imply that a person with a tripod and a damp basement is possibly more deserving of the revenue earned by the boys at ilm, and bays film crew(some of which risk their lives for your ticket) is just plain stupid. and again don't talk of rasicm and then defend the crank and hangover films without menitoning district 9 and inglorious basterds while clearly ignoring the true perpatrator of BLACK FACE Tropic thuder. all praised on this site.

  • July 21, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    ass

    by 2007

    I love how one person will clearly make up a false hood of what bay does and then another will agree in hating that caricature. stop hating a false image you have created. bay drives a fucking hybrid.

  • July 21, 2010, 2:43 p.m. CST

    2007

    by rogueleader66

    I was not making a false image, I was simply saying in my own way that Bay is a mega millionaire who doesn't seem to care what people like us think of him or his movies, that's all. I don't know the guy, true, but it sure as hell seems as if he doesn't care.

  • July 21, 2010, 3:05 p.m. CST

    fair

    by 2007

    that description fits just about 80% of holloywoods successful filmmakers. Starting with Cameron. if only talkbackers always stated in such a way....I once heard he sniff's crack of such and such's ass. funny to be honest.

  • July 21, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    2007

    by sam jacksons wig

    "there are many differnt forms of good cinema." - I'm not disagreeing with you at all on that point. Cinema should be varied and appeal to all kinds of people. You are missing the point- Michael Bay, no matter how long he works or how many hours he puts in, or how dedicated his team are, or how good ILM are(which are not affiliated with Bay and freelance out to others with greater film making skills, so that is a moot point), can't make movies for toffee. <br><br> Example- all of his movies are the same mindless crap. Admit it. You know its true. You could CGI optimus prime over Will Smith in BB2 and it would fit right in. Same first act, second and third act throughout each, and each less entertaining than the last as the repetetive jokes wear thin and the action just becomes more and more overbearing. There isn't even a decent script to hold the movies together, and the actors employed to look good and beautiful cant deliver the shit dialogue with any trace of conviction. <br><br> And what does Bay do? Rectify the situation after each movie, learning from his mistakes and the outcry from the public? No- he says "fuck you" to the audience, "I know best" and hammers the screen with more mind numbing action set pieces. <br><br> He needs to stop, but wont as he thinks what he is doing is great. I'm sorry, but there is a reason that people hate Bay.

  • July 21, 2010, 4:02 p.m. CST

    reason

    by 2007

    the reason is misconscrewed...so much so that it is inversely represented with his ticket revenue. I could argue that there is a reason people like bay to the tune of $400 mill domestic, not sure how many films have that kinda appeal this year. ILM's work reflects the directors input. It's been stated that not only does bay demand their best work but he contributes to it with his knowledge of photography. The fact is the movies look great even when the transformers aren't on screen. Pearl harbor had some of the most beautiful photography in film but it's ignored cause the script(nothing to do with bay) was poor...or rather cause bay was involved, never mentioning that the script would have been poor without bay but the visuals would have been alot more lame as well. high contrast photography yields strong cgi. see district 9 vs george lucas.

  • July 21, 2010, 4:02 p.m. CST

    by 2007

    like you said, the scripts suck, like many movies but unlike many movies they are successes. that in itself is an accomplishment incapable by someone deemed a hack. if you put optimus in BB2 it would be alot different...I don't have the time to joke about that. lets try this Compare Bad Boys, bays first film to um say Cop Out, smiths' 16th. outclassed in every aspect of buddy cop comedy action and not because will smith is a better actor than bruce willis...or maybe it is.

  • July 21, 2010, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Repeat after me: "MICHAEL BAY MAKES SHITTY MOVIES"...

    by JonChambers

  • July 21, 2010, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Repeat after me: "Michael Bay won't get my $15.00!!!!!"

    by JonChambers

  • July 22, 2010, 6:47 a.m. CST

    2007

    by sam jacksons wig

    Putting Optimus in BB2 was meant figuratevly not literally- it is to re-enforse the point that all of Bays movies are the same, no matter what character appears in them. Even you have to agree with that statement!!! <br><br> I doubt for one second that the script for Pearl Harbour woul have been that bad without Bay. Any decent Director would have looked at the shit on paper and changed it to suit their own stylings. It slike I said- with Bay its fuck the story and plot and script and just throw expensive CGI at the public in the hopes it drowns their senses. That does NOT make for a great director. It makes for a hack who only considers two things, what HE wants and how much MONEY he is going to make.

  • July 22, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    sorry

    by 2007

    sorry dude, I don't agree. Optimus(even in a bay movie by golly) is nothing but noble, that's his character, noble and responsible for problems that aren't really his. Mike Lowrey(bb2) is a care free trust fund bachlor that some people believe is playing cop(wow I know a real characterization, all I had to do was look) will smith infact seems to have a vapid disdan for the lives of the innocent in the second film. I repeat, If you put optimus in that film it would be a different CHARACTER. next. I've seen good scripts and i've seen bad ones. platoon, thin red line, american beauty are good ones...whereas pearl harbor is a bad one, we can argue that a director could have fixed this and that with scripts they are not allowed to write unless they are part of the WGA or we could just mostly agree that there are good scripts and there are bad ones. A great director is someone that can make a great cinematic experience out of a written story, partly due to his resources and partly due to his ability to create film. bay does this in spades no matter how shitty the story is that he's given. Not everyone can do that or have you not seem them all try and fail this summer. You people all seem to complain about story, the one thing directors traditionally have little to do with. But I agree bay could stand to make better choices and still not sell out the audience that brought him his success. I'm sure that will happen at some point.

  • July 23, 2010, 7:49 a.m. CST

    What's wrong with TF 1 and 2?

    by Tikidonkeypunch