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William Shatner Has Interviewed The TNG, DS9, VOYAGER And ENTERPRISE Captains For His New Doc!! Is Chris Pine Next??
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We’ve been hearing for a while that William Shatner was directing a documentary called “The Captains” that was going to be about his life. A description of the project from last month:
A feature documentary following the life and career of William Shatner, The Captains will explore Shatner's Montreal roots and his early career in Stratford, Ontario, as well as the extraordinary change in circumstances caused by the serendipitous casting for the role of Captain James T. Kirk. The film will be directed by Shatner, who will also executive produce with David Zappone and Craig Thompson.
Now comes word from London Comic Con that the project may be titled “Six Captains” and that Shatner has completed interviews with the stars of four non-Shatner “Star Trek” series – Patrick Stewart, Avery Brooks, Kate Mulgrew and Scott Bakula – for it. Here’s “Kimbers” with a report that suggests Shatner may be pursuing the new Kirk, Chris Pine, as well:
Hi went to the LFACC at earls court this weekend, as well as seeing the lovely katee sackoff we saw the talk given by bill shatner
He was his usual self he talked about his time on boston legal, his forthcoming shit my dad says and his aftermath show which isnt the post-apocalyptic romp i was hoping for but a show where he follows up victims and perps of infamous news items a few years later, he had a lot top say about this one !
But what really caught my interest was the show hes made called the 6 Captains, he has gone and visited all of his fellow franchise helmers at their homes and asked about their experiences in the captains chair; Mulgrew, Bakula, Brooks, Stewart, and i think he said he wants to do Chris Pine too, he still has to edit it and he got the other captains to interview him, he also said he wants Leonard Nimoy to interview him for it at a big Trek convention in Las Vegas in August
and i forgot Avery Brooks is doing the soundtrack so its all jazz and sax!
cheers
Kimbers
I'm guessing George Takei, who played a captain in "Star Trek VI," will not be pleased.
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He was his usual self he talked about his time on boston legal, his forthcoming shit my dad says and his aftermath show which isnt the post-apocalyptic romp i was hoping for but a show where he follows up victims and perps of infamous news items a few years later, he had a lot top say about this one !
But what really caught my interest was the show hes made called the 6 Captains, he has gone and visited all of his fellow franchise helmers at their homes and asked about their experiences in the captains chair; Mulgrew, Bakula, Brooks, Stewart, and i think he said he wants to do Chris Pine too, he still has to edit it and he got the other captains to interview him, he also said he wants Leonard Nimoy to interview him for it at a big Trek convention in Las Vegas in August
and i forgot Avery Brooks is doing the soundtrack so its all jazz and sax!
cheers
Kimbers
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Though I doubt George Takei will care.
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You gotta hand it to him, he's the bastard you wish you could have a beer with!
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Oh My!
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I bet it's full of all Doctor who and monty Python crap that no one cares about
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Can't wait to see this. Should make for some interesting "Captain's chair" story swapping.
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Her vagina should prepare to be inseminated. Resistance is futile
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I just wished he didn't no show Philly this year, but I hope to see him if he comes around for the other East Coast conventions. Its going to be surreal to see Pine and Shatner together.
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I wonder what fascinating insights Chris Pine will have to share.
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... are all fat, pimply, greasy, basement-dwelling, racist nerdboys too?
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It's not like Will Wheaton is doing much else anyway, put him to work.
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Avery Brooks hasn't spoken much about his tenure has he? i loved him as Sisko.
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"Just like Xena warrior princess, or Captain Janeway!" -Fry
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or he doesn't know how to count to six.
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Not to mention Captain America, Captain Marvel, Sky Captain, Captain Jack Harkness, Captain Morgan, the Captain (minus Tennille), Captain Underpants, Captain Planet, Captain Obvious and Captain Jack Sparrow? All interviewed at a local Captain D's, of course.
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All due respect to Mr. Sulu, but he was *A* captain, not *THE* captain.
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Yep - those are definitely two things that no-one at all cares about.
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first act, perform in Stark Trek.Second act,distance himself from franchise.Third,embrace it fully.His mind has suffered inception
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Oh, and I love Dr. Who.
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He is clearly dealing with people who've been Trek Captains in a serious way. Otherwise, role out Kelsey Grammar and a bunch of guest stars.
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Jul 20, 2010 4:39:35 PM CDT
I know Pine is busy as FUCK right now, but I do hope he does thi
by zillabeast
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'I bet it's full of all Doctor who and monty Python crap that no one cares about' - you mean *YOU* don't care about them, there's a big difference. First you claim that 'no one' cares about the World Cup in an earlier talkback, then you type this pile of shit? You really *are* a stupid fucking cunt, aren't you? Like the very fact a London Comic Con could even exist amazes you. "A Comic Con? In London? Wow, I thought Comic Con was just in America, like everything else is only in America too! Like American sports and American tv shows!" Yes. It's almost as if there actually *is* a world that exists outside of the States. Just wait until you graduate from High School and discover different countries, it'll blow your very tiny mind...
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He brings it up in every talkback, he's probabaly pissed because he's the only one in the world who gives a shit about soccer
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There's a moment in that interview where Shatner, completely straight faced and while making eye contact, tells Stewart that he's never watched TNG. Stewart actually looks stunned and insulted at the same time for just a couple seconds and then manages to pull his shit together and be the true professional that he is. But I lost a tiny bit of respect for the ol' Shat when I saw that. As much as Trek has done for his life he can still be a giant douche if the topic at hand isn't him, specifically. That being the case, it will be interesting to see this documentary. I'm very interested in what angle he's going to play in the editing. I'm guessing there will be a lot of "I was the original, first and best" going on.
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I remember reading at various times after the series ended that he was, and then wasn't, interested in reprising the role in a feature film. But since DS9 has somewhat slipped off the radar for the non-hard core Trekkies, probably five or six years ago, I haven't heard anything from him.
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When he said that i didn't belive him for a second, theres no way he never checked it out, i mean he stared in one of the movies, he must have watched some episodes to understand the feel of TNG. Are we to belive that he never glanced at an episode, even when TNG was at it's height or popularity? I'm almost thinking he's just programed himself to say that because that way nerd fanboys can't ask him questions that compare Kirk and picard. Some virgin asked him if kirk would approve of picards actions in episode 92 and shat just goes "uh..yeah i've never seen an episode of TNG". Years of repeating that might have him belived he never did see an episode
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The actor/actress Harriman and Garret can just get a Weakest Link style rapid fire 20 questions because that's about all their good for, but interview Chris Pine in a movie about Star Trek captains, and he's the newest captain, is pretty much Paramount. Toss in Bruce Greenwood too, he was Captain for the longest part of the movie. Actually, now that I type it, I think Kirk has the most screentime as the Captain in Star Trek.
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why he is so fat?
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...or not. The fact that he would say such a thing directly to Patrick Stewart during an interview by Whoopi Goldberg while Jonathan Frakes and Leonard Nimoy were present is just SOOO majorly douche baggish. It really bummed me out the first time I saw it. I'm quite certain there will be a comment from him somewhere along the line about this documentary "setting things straight". Or something else to that affect. He's just kind of an egomaniacal douche. I still dig the guys work as Kirk and really love his Trek novels. But as a real life person he's definitely NOT my favorite cast member.
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Jul 20, 2010 9:07:51 PM CDT
"'I'm guessing George Takei, who played a captain in "Star Trek
by the constant1
He also played a captain in Voyager.
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"So, why did your shows suck so bad an nearly kill the franchise?"
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George Takei is flying in a race against Scott Bakula and he yells, "WAY TO KILL THE FRANCHISE, BAKULA!!" and smashes Bakula's ship to pieces. Pretty gold.
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A messed up continuity unwanted prequel is what killed the franchise. In fact one of eneterprises strong points was the characters. All of them except maybe the black ensign were very likable and interesting characters and i think if the series was set post voyager it would have been a classic. The problem with enterprise was the timeframe, no one wanted a pre kirk show and especially no one wanted one that would mess with continuity and technology and stuff
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Jul 20, 2010 9:36:07 PM CDT
It wasn't Enterprise's fault overall, it was too much Trek in ge
by tall_boy66
Franchise fatigue is very real. Even if Enterprise was the greatest Trek show ever (like all Star Trek, not every episode of Enterprise is awful. There are great Enterprise and Voyager episodes if you look for 'em) the post TNG boom was just too much. Two Star Trek series running concurrently (DS9/TNG, VOY/DS9) along with TNG movies every 2 years or so for about 7 years straight would do that. If anybody killed the franchise, it was Paramount for greenlighting too much Trek.
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Jul 20, 2010 9:41:09 PM CDT
As for the tech, aside from cloaking devices ENT was solid
by tall_boy66
I always thought Enterprise fit pretty damn well into the pre-TOS it was going for. Only time it bothered me was when the Romulans showed up with cloaking devices, which I thought basically ruined Balance of Terror, one of the pivotal Trek episodes, well, ever. The NX-01 didn't look sleek, it was all exposed piping and corridors and so forth. That's why I think the Kelvin in Star Trek looks very much like a post NX-01 design in between to the NCC-1701. And they only did Warp 5 and everyone thought using the transporter was crazy so they just used the shuttles instead. Everyone says Enterprise destroys Trek continuity but aside from, like, a few minor glitches I think it fits fine with Trek canon.
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Finally. Augment virus. Gotcha. Now whatever happened to the disappearing/reappearing/disappearing Romulan forehead ridges is the next question. (They don't all have them, I guess.)
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...it messes with established beginnings of things like, oh, saaay, the ENTERPRISE. Kirk's was the first. And there's about a thousand things like that in the series. Tons or little things regarding when races were first known, and where they were encountered. Events that had supposedly shaped Starfleet and the Federation were ignored. They just re-wrote them like it wouldn't matter to anybody who had been following along for anywhere from 10 to 30 years. It was insulting. I'm sure it seemed like a great idea when they first thought of it. But if they had really thought it through, instead of just assuming that everyone would blindly follow along, thereby further lining their coffers, you'd think they would have figured out they needed to wait until they could come up with a better idea. Clearly, not the case. Since they basically did the same think with Star Trek 2009. I hate Enterprise, but I wholeheartedly agree that there are good Voyager episodes. Even some great ones. I seem to have become a sort of crusader for that show after a recent re-watch of the entire series. It's just not as bad as people make it out to be. It's pretty solid Trek most of the time. They JUST NEEDED TO BRING THEM HOME SOONER and move on to something else.
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...a while ago and have since been expanded and expounded upon quite a bit. One book in particular told the story of the doctor and the powers responsible for the virus as well as how it was cured.
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They even made the insulting opening better.
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There's the scene in Star Trek: The Motion Picture when Decker is showing the Iliana probe all of the ships called Enterprise in the shuffleboard lounge or something. It wasn't the Federation's Enterprise in ENT, it was the United Earth or something. 200 years in between First Contact and TOS is a lonnnnggggggg time. If Enterprise had made it a few more seasons, they were going to delve into the Romulan/Earth war. There's a lot of fertile ground to mine in Trek history. Instead, they're doing it in the books now.
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Love 'em. Love Titan and Vanguard. Love the current tying together of all the major series. Love that they continue to find new ways to tell great stories in TOS universe. I'm even still buying the Mirror Universe books, even though they sometimes include Enterprise characters. However, I will never read any of the straight Enterprise books. Evidently the Romulan Wars book is quite good, too. But I can't go there. I just refuse to support that mess.I've seen ST:TMP about 40 times and I can't seem to find that scene in my mind. Regardless, I didn't think they had fuck all to do with the Starfleet lineage of the Enterprise. And yeah, I know it's not the Federation in Enterprise... but I ignore Enterprise! lol So I can't really speak too knowledgeably on that. I don't know, I'm probably just blocking all that info out because I hated that series so much. Doesn't change the fact that they did re-write a bunch of established Trek history with that show.I agree with you about the 200 years being a long time. It's a period where they could tell 1000 different ORIGINAL stories. So stop messing with the stuff that people know and love.
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It was a virus that mutated the older Klingons so they formed ridges. The Younger Klingons were immune so they didn't have any.
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I couldn't gdt into the previous franchises but I gave Enterprise a shot because I like Scott Bakula. I love the show and watch it whenever it airs on Syfy. I'm not aware of all the continuity complains since I haven't watched the other show. Alls I know is Captain Archer is one tough motherfucker.
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It's not fair to compare it to the original since how TV is written has changed so much since then. I never caught any huge or glaring continuity errors unless they all happened in Voyager which I never saw, or unless they happened in other media like books (which doesn't count). Besides, Trek has always contradicted itself in every series starting with the original.
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this seems pretty cool. although I can hear him say at the end of each interview "It's still no star trek tos."
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Voyager. Mostly Tom Paris's arc, though.
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Archer, sitting in his chair, all of a sudden we see Al standing behind him, " Time to go Sam " and he leaps...
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like 90 percent of the show was fantastic, people tend to focus on that 10 percent that was awful. Plus we got jerry ryans butt and tits in that skin tight uniform every week in the last few seasons
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Sorry but no. Voyager isnt underrated at all, it was ashockingly bad show that started with a great idead and gave up on it after two seasons. The characters were pure Trek cliche, the storylines were so unoriginal it even started copying itself.
But, Voyager's main attrocity (Neelix aside) was completely ruining the Borg.
The Borg. One cube destroyed almost every starfleet ship at the battle of wolf 359, but in Voyager, a couple of photon torpedoes does the job. They made the Borg nothing more than a standard canon fodder enemy. They used to be scary.
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For a start Pike wasnt the first captain of NCC 1701, There was Captain Robert April for starters.
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All you have to do is watch the last episode of Enterprise to see how much of a moron he is.
Season 3 of Enterprise was amazing. Season 4 was good. You know who was responsible for those? Manny Coto.
Voyager, Insurrection, and Nemesis killed there ever being a chance of a DS9 movie, which sucks because Sisko/Avery Brooks deserved it. Instead of the last two awful TNG movies, there should have been a DS9 one. And Voyager? Go back and watch it again if you think it's good. Yeah, Tom Paris and Ensign Kim are cool, but that's about it. -
DS9 had already found a way to keep the rich universe that Trek had created while also giving uncharted exploration, and even it struggled until it tied in more of that traditional Trek tapestry. The Voyager concept was brand new characters in a brand new universe with the assumption that they'd hit gold again. (Plus the concept didn't really make much sense... For having the fastest ship around and heading in one direction predominantly, they sure did keep running into the same aliens over and over again.) Eventually, they tried to fix their lack of "good" Trek to build off of by ruining both Q and the Borg.
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ENTERPRISE was just STAR TREK existing solely on a life-support machine after all brain functions had ceased.
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that russel watson number was a big mistake
according to the shat avery brooks has been teaching jazz at Harvard lately?
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still dont quite see the relevance of that but he was a big draw
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Granted it was ages ago, but I seem to recall them running from the Borg, only getting into a fight with very damaged or very tiny, shuttle-like Borg vehicles. I don’t recall the Voyager ever taking on a functioning giant cube, like the one that destroyed most of the starfleet
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Maybe I did overexagerate a little but the point still stands, Voyager ruined the Borg. They went up against them dozens of times and had no casualties.
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But it was a total wasted opportunity. Every episode essentially ended with a giant reset button. Thousands of light years from home, minimal crew conflict (outside of the first 5 episodes) and a limitless supply of new shuttles and terrible acting. You can see the seeds of a few great ideas, and there were a few wonderful episodes. My favorites happened to be the Equinox II parter. That story is what Voyager could have been, but that was a story the writers didn't have the balls to tell over the long term.
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Using creatures for fuel is very un-trek.
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Then TNG and a loooooooooong way after that comes the unmitigated shitpile that was Voyager. Don't understand the hate for Enterprise to be honest, I know they retconned a few things but then so did the movies and all the other shows. DS9 was an actual masterpiece, storywise and characterwise. Enterprise was damn good -my only complaint about it was the producers giving in halfway through to the whinging crybabies who shat the bed over the theme song and the lack of the Star Trek name on the credits. How it only got four seasons and yet Voyager, a show fully deserving if everyones wrath, got seven is beyond belief. I do second the comment about Janeway being fully doable. Mulgrew is still a fox now. Janeway may have been a mentally ill incompetant, but she sure could instill a trouser tent faster than Jeri Ryan bending over to pick up a penny.
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I must have missed those Enterprise episodes. So you're saying a virus caused them to grow ridges in time for Enterprise, but their offspring didn't have any so they looked the way they did in TOS, but then somehow the Next Generation of Klingons had them? Wouldn't it make more sense that it was a virus that robbed them of their forehead ridges, making them physically smaller and less aggressive, and more human? The virus hit sometime after Enterprise but was cured by the time Kirk & crew hit the big screen? The DS9/Trouble with Tribbles episode Worf makes mention of how the Klingons look as being a time in their history they don't like to talk about. Just me, but that always made me think that the Klingons tried to make themselves more human around the time of TOS because humans were the cultural bar to which all races aspired to at that time. Humanity thought to be the pinnacle of a successful society. Think Russia under Peter the Great, transforming his country to being more European, specifically France. Since the Klingons in TOS were basically the Russians, it's an easy enough leap to think at some point in their past they rejected their own culture to try and be more human, only to re-embrace their own culture at a later date (probably through a violent revolution).
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The Enterprise episodes tell it like this, the klingons were using human augment (Khan) D.N.A to enhance their soldiers, and in turn it made them human in appearance. And it spread among klingon colonies like a virus, thus rendering a small portion of the klingon population without ridges.
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The virus made Klingons take on human characteristics - no ridges, less strength etc. It was still affecting them by Kirks time, we can assume from TOS but cured by the Motion Picture. The virus was started during Archer's time - prior to that Klingons were the lumpy brutes we came to know in the movies and later shows. The virus, if you take the events of Enterprise as canon, seemed to last for around 100 years or so.
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But I can't hate it. It had the Doctor (The emergency hologram evolving for seven seasons is one of the only concept they have actually followed through and it worked wonderfully) and Seven's ass. Also, Equinox, Bride of Chaotica, Year of hell (even with the reset button) the Scorpion two parter, Living witness, Oblivion... I have only seen these eps once, like ten years ago, but I still remember them vividly. When it was good, it was very good. I liked DS9 more, but I can't really name which episodes were my favorite. It had the better overall story and characters but Voyager had higher peaks.
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Your welcome.
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Plus, like, didn't you already get together with the captains on the blu-ray boxed set?
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...his creds go all the way back to 2 classic TZ episodes and a memorable Columbo appearance. He can do no wrong - this doc sounds fucking awesome. Here's hoping he interviews the new Kirk as well to complete the circle.
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or did Voyager never feel "right" again after they switched the Asian character for his alternate self or something from a parallel universe? Even though it was the same actor and everything I always thought that was bullshit.
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everything herc writes is a reference to the howard stern show because he is a one-note piece of boring, predictible shit.
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Hell, "One Small Step" was one of the best, most emotional in-depth explorations of the sacrifice and danger inherent to space travel, and it's on Freakin' Voyager. There were a bunch mentioned above too, but I am also partial to "Someone to Watch Over Me" which is a small character episode between the Doc & Seven, and Bride of Chaotica! will always remain the best thing that Bryan Fuller ever did. Hell, the 100th episode, Timeless, is a freakin harry kim episode. And Year of Hell has a fantastic guest performance by the always great Kurtwood Smith. And Killing Game had Nazis vs. fucking Klingons. And Message in a Bottle is another great doctor episode that actually ties in quite neatly with DS9's Dominion arc, which is a nice bit of inter-series continuity. The best run of Voyager, much like TNG, was right in that meaty chunk of the curve - season 4-6. Like I said, go through all the Star Trek series you're going to find gold. In general, Star Trek, all of them, was just too good to be awful every week. Are there lonnnnggggg stretches of awful? Yes. But you can find good ones in even the worst seasons. Hell, I still think TNG's "Encounter at Farpoint" is easily the best episode of Season 1, and it's their first one. And as for Enterprise, aside from the rockin' Mirror Universe episodes, I would have to go with the augments episode with Brent Spiner as Data's great great grandfather or something. He was quite the dick in that.
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Looking forward to it. A wonderful way to document one of TV's greatest and beloved franchises. Go Shatner!
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Guy who was basically calling the shots that whole time? Brannon Braga. Man does great high concept, go watch TNG's Frame of Mind for proof. It's just sometimes his scripts lose character or fall completely flat on their turning-into-salamander ass. But, once again, not awful and most of the time he's pretty good. Besides, he co-wrote two of TNG's best: All Good Things and First Contact so that has to count for something
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Voyager was good once they got rid of the blond chick with the weird voice
Nelix's girlfriend with the weird ears
Creepy broad with wildly fluctuating weight
I'd have hated to be the people who had to costume her
People bitch about 7 of 9 and her skin suit
Story wise it's perfect
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I mean the episode in which he dies doesn't hide anything - it clearly tells us that Harry Kim from that episode onward is not the same Harry Kim from before, but why is it is never mentioned again? I know that the Actor who played Harry was in a fight with producers so they never really gave him anything to do in the later years (or even promoted him past ensign) but it would have been nice if the alternate universe Harry plot was somewhat expanded upon. Hell, even alternate future Kes got like 3 episodes over the course of the series and Kes suckedVoyager delt with alternate universe/timelines way too much though, and in the end they always hit the reset button. Some great alternate future stories were told but in the end it was just like they just looked at the camera and said "oops, well that was only what could happen, not what will happen, stay tuned next week for an episode about Chakotay's tattoo"
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Nothing his character does has relevance in the real Trek Universe, so why bother interviewing him as if he played a real Captain.
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Overall it's enjoyable but it's got a major mistake. When the elderly Picard and the crew of the Pasteur arrive at the Devron System and find nothing, they should have actually found a small, shrinking version of the anomaly since it's moving backwards in time. The anomaly should have shrunk all the way into nothingness to the moment the Pasteur began scanning it with reverse tachyons. Instead they found nothing, then came back later to find it existed, which would suggest that it was moving forward in time, not backwards. Major plot goof and it was easily rewritable to make sense. Tarnishes an otherwise great finale to the show.
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Yes, but some of the writers seemed to realize this and played on it. In Living Witness we see this Evil Voyager and we're pretty sure it's from the Mirror Universe, an alternate timeline or something like that. Usual Voyager stuff, yadda yadda yadda... Then the episode turns awesome when we realize that these are faulty retellings of history thousands of years from now. The other great one like this is Destination: Oblivion (had to look up the title) where we see a happier Voyager, where everything turned out pretty great, they have found a shortcut to Earth, sure there will be some time travel fuckery soon... then it turns out these are dying replicas from Demon and they don't even know it. It's like the writing staff worked their asses off once a week, and let the janitor write the rest of the eps.
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I had forgotten about that episode where the future people were piecing together voyager logs and recreating events, that was also primarily a "doctor episode" and those were always the best. Anopther great future episode involved Voyager have been frozen to death and future harry kim and Chakotay had to do something to prevent it, but it meant going against starfleet orders, we also saw Admiral Leforge in that episode if i rmember correctlyVoyager had 170 episodes or something, but if you take away the filler episodes you are likley left with 30-40 amazing stories, like "Year of hell" or that one where the voyager crew is kidnaped and then brainwashed to think they are different people working in a factory on some planet (that episode had great tension and emotion when janeway realises she's in love with a man in a life that isn't hers)
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But if you think of it being too small, and they missed it, it works fine.
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that makes more sense than how I interpreted what RPLocke said.
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I forget how i know this...maybe a book somewhere, but I know it's cannon...
The Klingons we first encounter in TOS are surgically altered in an attempt to make them more easily able to integrate into human society for a possible invasion of the Federation. Only the Klingons at outposts bordering the Federation had the surgery done, the rest were normal and ridged like we know them. This is why the Klingon in the pilot of Enterprise (Zeus Lister) was normal...he wasn't one that had the alteration.
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The real truth is that somewhere between TOS and TMP somebody decided Klingons needed to look more bad-ass, hence the ridges, hence the need to explain the difference, hence the pointless fanboy rantings.
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....I thought he Klingons with ridges thing was explained in Enterprise. It had something to do with a disease or something and some type of bio-medical bullshit. I don't know.
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Man, if I'd thought William Shatners comments were newsworthy I could have sent in this article. Damn!
But seeing the original Captain in person jumping around on stage like a guy half his age, (He's 79!) was pretty awesome.
Funniest moment though, was when at William Shatners talk, I overheard a couple of guys coming over from Mike Tyson's signing session, where apparantly a lot of folk had jumped ship to go to Shatner's talk. This had actually caused Mike Tyson to ask one of the guys what was going on, and where were all the signing folk going to? And apparently when he was told that they were all leaving to go to William Shatners's talk, the look on his face was just priceless! LOL!
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Were always considered non-Canon. The simple reason was at the height of Star Trek book publishing they were publishing a paperback novel a month for the Original Series, TNG, DS9 and Voyager. That's around 48 books a year. It was simply too much to keep in line with each other. So the events that happened, even in some of the better Star Trek novels like Vendetta, Federation, or Best Destiny have all been superseded by later movies or episodes.
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is fine. I liked the new Star Trek movie (shh... don't wake the trolls), but it's my understanding that Shatner was talking to the actors about their unique experience of heading up the franchise. While there are a lot of people who played Captains on Star Trek, there's a big difference between that and being "the" Captain for years on end. The amount of scrutiny placed on you, how much pressure is put on you to hold the show together, the crazed (or dedicated if you prefer) fans. I think it's probably a unique role for anyone to play, at times gratifying and others frustrating. While Chris Pine certainly did a good job he hasn't had that experience.
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It's a better explanation than this stupid "disease/mutation" thing.
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Jul 21, 2010 7:44:50 PM CDT
"I'm guessing George Takei, who played a captain in "Star Trek V
by fa_tass_dinomolester
I would imagine not.
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Does that mean interview him, or, um... ?
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Jul 21, 2010 9:19:45 PM CDT
Eh with the Shat, WHY NO BEAVIS ANd BUTT HEAD TALK BACK???!!!!!
by red43jes
Enough said..."Number one, I order you to take a number two, uh huh huh huh..." Lets see whats up with MTV and the supposed 30 episodes written by Judge...
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The franchise hit a mainstream audience highpoint with First Contact. Then, instead of making the 9th film either be an original story that connected Generations and FC together into some kind of trilogy (ala TWOK, TSFS & TVH), or a followup to plotlines from the TNG series (be they Q or something else) or a franchise-helper by tying into DS9 (do a big Dominion War battle/finale on the big screen, with DS9 characters in supporting roles, leaving the DS9 character arc resolutions for the TV series finale; or even something more subtle that just has a significant impact on the series without ending the war plotline), they instead make a crappy standalone film that does stuff the TV shows already did waaay better (cloaked research blinds on planets, resistance to the relocation of a population, etc) in a comedic way that embarrasses and insults the characters ("Do you boobs feel firmer?", I have never felt sorrier for Gates than having her have to tread through her awful non-role in that film) as well as insults the franchise on a technical level (the Enterprise is flown manually by a microsoft flight stick that rises out of the floor on a cardboard box podium. really? despite the fact we've SEEN how flying a starship manually is done on several occasions in the shows?, the final fight between Picard and the bad guy takes place in a room on a space station that looks like a bluescreen set that they either couldn't afford to do the effects for, or simply forgot to put the effects in, as if it was raw footage). It killed any momentum the franchise had gained with mainstream audiences with First Contact. And after that? Voyager continued to be mediocre, Enterprise didn't excite people until it's final season, and inbetween you had Nemesis, which while not great, was still a watchable flick and nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be- but it doesn't matter if Nemesis had been the best Trek flick ever made- nothing would have performed well after Insurrection, let alone a Trek film RELEASED DAYS BEFORE LOTR: THE TWO TOWERS. Wonder what genius thought of that release date? Hmm, there can't be any crossover in fanbase there, nahhhh.
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Jul 21, 2010 10:24:51 PM CDT
Well i just want to say i'm in the pro-TOS Season 3 camp
by takingscorpioscalls
and all of its increased cast chemistry/naturalism and incraesed familiarity that is not there frmo the earlier seasons. Clantons and Kirok in proto Cloud City ftw.
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Jul 21, 2010 10:36:05 PM CDT
No Love for Capt. Deckker (Stephen Collins) from ST:TMP??
by drunken busboy
He was Capt for over 3 years then over saw the refitting of the original Enterprise. He then sacraficed himself to merge with V-GER saving Earth. SHOW THE LOVE SHAT!!!!!!
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Jul 21, 2010 10:40:31 PM CDT
ENTERPRISE was a failure because it wasn't Retro enough.
by drunken busboy
The ship looked more modern that the other ships in the previous series. It would have been a cooler show if they retro a bit and paid homage to the original series. Hope about some Go Go boots on that Vulcan chick? Round Jefferies Tubes? Big Ass Attenae Dish on the front? RETRO, RETRO, RETRO!! This show was supposed to be before the original series. Shorter Haircuts with the pointy sideburns? Primary Colored Uniforms? Scrap the jumpsuits.
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See the look they were going for in Enterprise was an in between-er of a NASA space-shuttle design and the jumpsuits are basically an outgrowth of what we have now. Once again, I bought it because there are 100 freakin' years in between Enterprise and TOS. It's stylistic choice was a bridge between basically "now" and "TOS". That is a hellova lot of design changes that can happen. Cripes, just look at the number of design changes in between TNG S1 and the end of DS9? (Voyager were stuck out in the Delta Quadrant the whole time) I have no objection to go-go boots on T'Pol, though. Awesome idea.
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Ship designs, uniform colors and Jeffries tubes aren't the thing. It sucked because they didn't know wtf they wanted out of the show, or where to take go. Point blank - period - end of discussion. Look at the impact of Galactica. It took many cues from the Star Trek formula and it was a smash. The issues of the day were what made OG trek a hit. Galactica didnt forget that. Terrorism, suicide bombings , civil rights, torture and fear of being taken down by a force from within. Enterprise for some fucking reason kept coming back to this retarded theme of "Human beings have a right to explore space!" = Stupid
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Tom Paris since he was played by the same actor from TNG who was a similar character may as well have just been the same damn character. It would have been a nice bridge to TNG.
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seasons. BOOM! I think one of the biggest mistakes they made in any of the series was going to all digital graphics. CGI looked nowhere near as realistic or believable as the models in TNG. Also any TNG haters should be shot (barring the first couple of seasons). DS9 was clearly the second best series after TNG, the Dominion War made the show and considering how BSG ended is arguably better than BSG. Another problem with Enterprise was T'Pol - Yes, Jolene Blalock was hot and everything, but she had NO idea how to play a Vulcan: no seriousness etc.
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Read around that they wanted Robert Duncan McNiel to play his character from TNG's First Duty (think that's the episode) but that would mean kicking a few bucks to the writer of the original First Duty episode whenever they used him. So they changed the name to Tom Paris and gave him practically the same backstory. He even kicks off Voyager's first episode in Starfleet prison, where his TNG character would have been. Same deal with T'Pol. She was supposed to be T'Pau from TOS, but that would me royalties or something. Odd thing is T'Pau did eventually pop up on Enterprise.
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Because the ending wasn't bullshit that contradicted the whole series.
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Fuck Patty if he can't hang in a convo with THE SHAT. The Shat always tells it like it is and doesn't fuck around. I LOVED THAT EXTRA IN THE BLURAYS. "The Summit" is brilliant. It's uncomfortable, entertaining and funny. There was great chemistry all around with those guys. Frakes new exactly how to handle The Shat. He didn't let The Shat's awesomeness get to him. Patty needs to just go back to the UK and let The Boy flush his asshole clean again.
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at last years LFACC dominic keating aka malcolm read from enterprise said that jolene blalok was basically a bitch and was the only member of the cast who never socialised with the rest of them, but who cares of she was in gogo boots and a miniskirt
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If you ever get the chance, check out: The Andersonville Trial if it is ever run on cable or offered online to rent. He's good, and then he has this 5-8 minute monologue and he TEARS the stage up.
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to all the male captains. "So, Jolene Blalock or Jeri Ryan. Which would you fuck?"
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Wow, really? Well it's only upwards from there, I guess.
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"Picard... Sisko... Janeway... Archer...THE CAPTAINS!" Next! On BIO.
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When they produced the cop-out ending to get the crew home. Having "old" Janeway conspire with "young" Janeway to commit the genocide of the borg race--just to save five or six favored crew members and shave a few years off the journey home was unexcuseable.
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Starfleet captain heirarchy should be judged by their readiness to punch someone in the face or blow up a strange spinning probe.
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