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Learn Who Finke Says Is Close To Hulking Out For Whedon’s AVENGERS!!

I am – Hercules!! Nikki Finke at Deadline says Mark Ruffalo (“Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind,” “The Brothers Bloom,” “Zodiac,” “Shutter Island”) is negotiating with Marvel to follow Bill Bixby, Eric Bana and Edward Norton in the exploding shoes of Dr. Bruce Banner. I was just watching Ruffalo in “You Can Count On Me,” an A-plus film IFC happened to be running again last night. Man, this guy is great. I’m dying to see him in “Margaret,” his 10-years-later reteam with “Count On Me” writer-director Kenneth Lonergan. To anticipate the question, Ruffalo’s not previously been associated with “Avengers” writer-director Joss Whedon. The Hollywood Reporter's Heat Vision blog says Whedon and Ruffalo are expected to meet about the role in the next few days. Find all of Deadline Hollywood’s exclusive on the matter here.
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  • July 14, 2010, 1:12 p.m. CST


    by idrinkyourmilkshake


  • July 14, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Just for 86'ing Norton,I hope THOR,CAPTAIN AMERICA and AVENGERS

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    all tank financially! Sides, we all know these 3 films are merely exsisting to wet our appetites for the Truly great film: BATMAN 3

  • July 14, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST


    by epicac

    sounds like it could work.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST

    I like this

    by CoffeeShopThirtysix

    As a person who started out finding him way too nebbish I have grown to love Mark Ruffalo. He is a great actor. And Bruce Banner is right in his wheelhouse.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST


    by Bvc79

    I'm happy with this. As much as I loved Norton's take on Banner, Mark Ruffalo is one of my favorite actors, and I'd love to see him get this.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Hulk Smash

    by Axl Z

    Could be good, would still prefer Norton thou, he looks like a Bana / Norton hybrid

  • July 14, 2010, 1:18 p.m. CST

    It should have been Zach Galifianakis...

    by LordPorkington

    Seriously, Zach *IS* Banner.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:18 p.m. CST

    You know what's weird

    by DirkD13"

    If you cut off the pic just below Ruffalo's nose, he looks scarily like Eric Bana!

  • July 14, 2010, 1:19 p.m. CST

    "Hulk like SMAHS,bro"

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    why hasn't ruffalo done a stoner film?Picking him is utter rubbish casting

  • July 14, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST

    I like it

    by WeLiveStill...OrNot

    He is great in everything I've seen him in. His performance in "ZODIAC" was tops. Perfectly underplayed.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:21 p.m. CST


    by Kremzeek

    Nothing against, Ruffalo at all, but I thought the whole point in IH was to prep a new cast (well, and pretend Ang Lee's Hulk never happened) for the Avengers? Not happy about another recast. How is that supposed to make Avengers feel like part of the IH universe now? This is sad news. Last I read, Norton was still willing to do Avengers. I guess that changed? =(

  • July 14, 2010, 1:24 p.m. CST

    my post got deleted

    by IAmLegolas

    What? Was it wrong to ask if Whedon was official on the project or not?

  • July 14, 2010, 1:24 p.m. CST

    by VanGoghX

  • July 14, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Great news! Great actor!

    by VanGoghX

    Ruffalo is a terrific actor and someone who could pull off being Banner.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    LOVE THE NEWEST ruffalo pic choice!

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    That's what Im talking about.I know he was sort of a stoner in ETERNAL SUNSHINE, but really, what I meant is...he sucks ass.My comic characters are sacred ground.Don't cast some loser actor!

  • July 14, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    If Marvel was smart

    by SmokingRobot

    They'd all kiss and make up and offer it to Norton. The free publicity would be AMAZING.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Ruffalo’s not previously been associated with “Avengers” writer-

    by slappy magoo

    ...that we know of... mee...yow...

  • July 14, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Hulk Mash!

    by Axl Z

    I'm going to put down money that someone else is replaced from the cast by the tine shooting starts..

  • July 14, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST

    He'll put some money in the bank.

    by SnootyBoots

    So he can keep doing other smaller movies he actually cares about.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST

    I keep forgetting about this dude, but not in a bad way

    by terry1978

    He's done some real good work, both in indie flicks, dramas, and a couple romantic comedies, so versatility ain't an issue. I'd be down with it.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Hulk Gash!

    by Axl Z

    Is She-Hulk in this?

  • July 14, 2010, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Anyone else have bad vibes about

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    Thor?? That will probably be the first to tank, it just looks...dodgy

  • July 14, 2010, 1:28 p.m. CST


    by donkingkong

    hahahaha, good actor but damn if it ain't a bothersome things win the do the actor switch-a-roo. Like when Rhodie all a sudden gotta darker complexion in IM2.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:28 p.m. CST


    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    end spoiler!

  • July 14, 2010, 1:29 p.m. CST


    by UltimaRex

    I know it's a cliche but it's also true. Ah well, Shadow of the Bat and The Man of Steel will wipe the floor with this anyway.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:29 p.m. CST

    top pic yes, bottom pic no.

    by BooBoosDaddy

    I never really warmed up to him as an actor, but I understand that Banner will not have too much screen time anyway, so why not?

  • July 14, 2010, 1:30 p.m. CST

    On that note...

    by UltimaRex

    Superman news?

  • July 14, 2010, 1:30 p.m. CST

    CAN'T WAIT for that lame-ass moment in Avengers when Iron-man or

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    look over at Bruce Banner and say the mandatory "have you gained weight?" and Ruffalo(banner), responds "must be the new glasses", and then looks dead center at the audience.(shudder)

  • July 14, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Works for me.

    by fiester

    I really have little concern for who plays Banner anyway. It's basically a cameo.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Can he be violent?

    by estacado1

    I can see him playing the Banner, but I've never seen him play a violent character to see him as Hulk.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:32 p.m. CST

    just the name on this guy is shitty

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    Sounds like a brand of chips "Ruffle'o's"! bbq!

  • July 14, 2010, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Watch In The Cut

    by terry1978

    That was all the proof I needed that he could do this.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:32 p.m. CST


    by kickyouinthenickels

    Marvel took a step backwards on this one. Ruffalo doesnt look the part of a scientist and isnt a good enough actor to show the inner troubles that Bill Bixby and Norton were able to capture.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST

    MARVEL FORMULA:any actor + reading glasses =bruce banner

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

  • July 14, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Great choice

    by kwisatzhaderach

  • July 14, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST

    i didnt know batman 3 had a name..

    by emeraldboy

    cool. shadow of the bat could work both ways. ruffalo as banner. could work if they make him look like the tv show banner. the 2nd film had some of the tv show in it. and I liked the odes to bixby. i was trying think about that tv cartoon. super 8 is ultimate force.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:35 p.m. CST

    the it in abrams trailer is

    by emeraldboy

    prime! wait and see.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Fuck Norton, Ruffio's PERFECT!

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    He's a great actor in general, but he'd be great as Bruce Banner in particular.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:37 p.m. CST

    fuck this shit

    by Stifler's Mom

    bring back Norton or else.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:38 p.m. CST

    I love Ruffles-o's, fucking amazing chips!

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    But I fucking hate Mark Ruffalo

  • July 14, 2010, 1:38 p.m. CST

    John Hamm would also be a great choice...

    by Somerichs

    since he's not Captain America. But maybe he's holding out for Superman...

  • July 14, 2010, 1:40 p.m. CST


    by 2soon2eat

    I vote for Eric Banna to play Tony Stark in Avengers, cause there is no way Robert will be caught dead in this train wreck. THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!

  • July 14, 2010, 1:40 p.m. CST

    mmmmm...ham-flavored Ruffle-o's(tm)

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

  • July 14, 2010, 1:40 p.m. CST

    you know...

    by tibbar

    i was like "boo" to them dissing norton... but i love ruffalo. i gotta say, good for him if he gets it. it's about time he moves up to the "A-List". he has the skills to pay the bills, so maybe avengers won't piss me off so much now.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Third incarnation of Hulk in seven years

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Just forget him already if you can't get Norton

  • July 14, 2010, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Doesn't Physically Resemble The Comic Book Banner


    I always thought Banner was supposed to look slight of frame, nerdy, and weak a complete contrast to his green alter ego. Steve Buscemi, Edward Norton,type build. It probably doesn't matter who they pick, they'll end up replacing the actor if an Avengers sequel gets made. Word of advice to Mark Ruffalo, don't treat the material with the upmost respect and get too involved with the project. Just learn the lines they give you, don't question them under any circumstances, hit your marks and you'll be fine. Do not think you can bring something refreshing to the movie and whatever you do, don't piss off Kevin Feige, apparently he likes exercising the power of his big balls around actors.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:44 p.m. CST

    I could TOTALLY see this!

    by D.Vader

    Over Joaquin Phoenix, that's for sure! <p> But still, bring back Ed Norton.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:44 p.m. CST

    want to know what Shia labeouf eats for breakfest?

    by frg10

    Sam Worthington's charisma and on screen presence ... this guy can't act for shit

  • July 14, 2010, 1:44 p.m. CST

    That could work.

    by the Green Gargantua

  • July 14, 2010, 1:45 p.m. CST

    I can see. But he's not Ed Norton

    by rev_skarekroe

    Seriously, fuck that guy who fired Ed Norton.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:45 p.m. CST


    by Troy McNamara

    I mean, guys! Marvel, the fans want NORTON, not RUFFALO, NORTON! Don't you fucking know how to read when it comes to fans' comments?! Sure, Mark Ruffalo is a really great actor but we want NORTON! No more, no less!

  • July 14, 2010, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Perfect. He's shorter than downy jr. Same reason cheadle

    by UltraTron

    was cast. Eric Banna would tower over stark- so would norton. This guy is shorter than Reese Witherspoon so we're good. Hollywood likes actors small to save money on sets. They can make everything 3/4 scale

  • July 14, 2010, 1:47 p.m. CST

    I like this a lot.

    by jasper Stillwell

    If it's true then its superb casting.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Marvel apologise to Ed Norton.

    by hallmitchell

    He worked so hard on HULK. Can we have no crappy CGI HULK this time?

  • July 14, 2010, 1:50 p.m. CST


    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    Bring back NORTON Marvel! Kiss and make up and give the fans what they want!!!

  • July 14, 2010, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Hate it

    by Double M

    I just don't see what you all are seeing in this guy. He seems to be able to possess a fairly large in stature physique, while coming off as a big pussy. Not a good combo. Bana at least had an edge there that made Banner somewhat tough without the Hulk. Norton had what I would think is the perfect combo. I don't quite know how to word it, I just don't like this guy for this role.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Goodbye any chance of another decent HULK film

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    Seriously, aside from SPIDER-MAN 2 (#1),Blade(#2)and Iron-man 1(#3), the INCREDIBLE HULK was the only GOOD marvel film.And now, re-cast? Feige, you are a worthless cocksucker!

  • July 14, 2010, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Just in: No CGI Hulk in Avengers, Mel Gibson in talks

    by donkingkong

    to play the green skinned goliath, Lou Ferringo still in contract to voice 2/3rds of Hulk grunts for new Avengers movie.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:52 p.m. CST


    by KinoEscalate

  • July 14, 2010, 1:52 p.m. CST

    love ruffalo. hate kevin feige's treatment of norton.

    by HelveticaConspiracy

    the whole movie is tainted now. lost all interest.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:52 p.m. CST

    my vote is for Topher Grace

    by van_line

    actually looks like banner and gives him a chance to redeem himself for venom. they should be casting a skinny science nerd.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Probably Okay But...

    by RudyVanDesario

    ...I would have preferred Billy Crudup. But if they're saving money and grabbing people Joss Whedon knows personally (like Nathon Fillion rumoured as Hank Pym) then it will probably be Sean Maher (Dr Simon Tam - Firefly / Serenity) or Dr Horrible himself - Neil Patrick Harris.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:54 p.m. CST


    by Kremzeek

    Bat3 doesn't have a name yet. That "Shadow of the Bat" thing comes from the comic book of the same name and is pure fanboy hype. Officially, "Man of Steel" isn't the title of the next Superman either - although I've always thought that was the coolest of the rumoured titles.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Sounds good to me

    by Argentino

    Way better than Joaquin Phoenix, not as cool as Steve Buscemi. I hope they make a multi picture deal, so there's no more recasting nonsense. I'm in.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:55 p.m. CST

    I can live with this choice..

    by ganymede3010

    Ruffallo is solid, great choice Marvel.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST



    This could actually work. Nice bit of casting if it comes to be.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST

    why not Justin Theroux?

    by HypeEndsHere

    ruff's okay though.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST

    This is so awesome casting!

    by Willbraham

    Fuck you Edward. Your hulk sucked.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST

    The problem with all the hulk films is...

    by Reelheed

    ...there's never enough hulk in them.

  • July 14, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST

    He still a well known actor, and not an unknown

    by BetterCallSaul

    how much money could Marvel be saving?

  • July 14, 2010, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Brilliant choice

    by mullymt

    I think this might be better than Norton.

  • July 14, 2010, 2 p.m. CST


    by carlotta_valdes

    ...nothing personal Mark Ruffalo, but no. Ruffalo gave away Shutter Island's main plot twist by the the 3rd scene! In fairness, he was good in the Brother's Bloom...but no. Follow through with what you've established least consult with your other lead actors on this? Whedon doesn't seem to have an issue with Ed? This "ego/difficult to work with BS" is a two way street, and clearly the stink is on you now. Consider carefully...I'm feeling less excited about this project with every recent bit of news...

  • July 14, 2010, 2:02 p.m. CST

    This just in - Ruffalo to be replaced in Incredible Hulk 2

    by BetterCallSaul

  • July 14, 2010, 2:02 p.m. CST


    by the new transported man

    You've already got probably like, 9 heroes & villains that need screen time in the Avengers movie. Just bring out the CGI Hulk for the first or last action piece. One scene to place him in the Avengers universe, another to bring him out to smash some shit. Unless, of course, they're worried about what to do for a trilogy of Avengers movies, which is likely the case. Gotta have a Banner in there somewhere. Ugh, Hollywood.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:03 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    He's got my vote.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:05 p.m. CST

    I had to kill Marvel because they made a mistake...

    by DickJones

    No,I'm not satisfied with this at all. Pick someone else please.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:05 p.m. CST

    I think Ruffalo is an excellent choice.

    by Royston Lodge

    I've marvelled at Ruffalo's talent ever since I saw YOU CAN COUNT ON ME back in 2000.<p> I think he's an inspired choice to play Banner.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Good choice

    by KevinMuller

    I never cared for Norton..he wasn't bad or good...he was just there, he brought nothing to the role IMO. I didn't buy him as banner.. I think Ruffalo could pull it off.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Good choice

    by KevinMuller

    I never cared for Norton..he wasn't bad or good...he was just there, he brought nothing to the role IMO. I didn't buy him as banner.. I think Ruffalo could pull it off.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Fantastic Choice

    by BG7

    For my money, Ruffalo knocks the socks off either Bana or Norton in the role. Perfect choice.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Ruffalo's line delivery doesn't exactly scream SCIENTIST

    by pollaxt

    Good actor. Bad casting.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:10 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Bullet dodged.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Fucking Yes.

    by Doctor_Strangepork

    I would watch Ruffalo do anything.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Why don't they just make Bruce Banner CGI?

    by Snake Foreskin

    It sure would save a lot of screen-test and audition time! Or, just cast Ryan Reynolds. He's in every other comic book movie right now.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Bruce Banner has just been cast! It's Daniel Craig!

    by Snake Foreskin

    But Feck Off! He's blonde!

  • July 14, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Lindsey Lohan plays Red She-Hulk. Filming begins in

    by UltraTron

    90 days. And still Hollywood fails to cast hulk as good as my original Billy Crudup casting for the first movie. Crudup looks like a scientist. He looks like hulk in the face so it makes sense that he would scale up and turn green.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:17 p.m. CST

    If they wait too much longer, it'll be Michael Cera!

    by Snake Foreskin

    Or Shia LeBeouf.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:17 p.m. CST

    I hate people who bitch about recasting

    by SpawnofAchilles

    Get over it, seriously. <p> Every superhero will eventually be recast. They can't make movies with the same actors forever. People age, they lose interest, they are a bitch to work with coughNORTONcough. RDJ will not be Tony Stark forever. It's a not a big deal (although I love Downey as Stark.) Do you all bitch and cry every time the artist changes and so does the look of a character in a comic series FFS??

  • July 14, 2010, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Ruffalo always seems like he just got beaned by something.

    by Snake Foreskin

    Genetic Scientist? Yeah, and Denise Richards was great as Christmas Jones.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Norton for Ruffalo

    by Rob0729

    So they replaced one immensley talented actor who never had the career equal his promise as an actor with another. Ruffalo may not be the egomanical control freak Norton is, but the guy has never lived up to his promise in terms of a career. Both Norton and Ruffalo should be major stars, but for different reasons neither get choice rolls in bigger movies.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Oh and Ruffalo is awesome.

    by SpawnofAchilles

    It's good casting if it works out.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST

    sign Mark Ruffalo to a multi-picture deal

    by Excelciyour

    Mark Ruffalo was superb as the tragic underdog detective in COLLATERAL and that worked for me 100%. No Ed Norton? Dick move, but fine. Marvel Studios show the fans you mean business by signing Mark Ruffalo to a 2-picture deal at the minimum!

  • July 14, 2010, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Hey, I've got it! Donnie Walberg for Bruce Banner...

    by Snake Foreskin

    Marky Mark Walberg as The Hulk! Just dip him in green paint and have at it!

  • July 14, 2010, 2:22 p.m. CST


    by Iahael

    OK, now, for once we get some good casting news from the new and improved Disney Marvel on the cheap. This choice is inspired and commendable, coming from the indie world, no less. Hmmmm... Samuel Jackson Robert Downey Jr Don Cheadle Chris Hemsworth Mark Ruffalo Chris Evans Scarlett Johansson Fuck it, that casting does sound pretty cool. ASSEMBLE! T.'.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Marvel's movie continuity is worth poop.

    by JediRob

    Ruffalo is great, but the whole Norton thing is really leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:26 p.m. CST


    by IceTitan

    I so want to be mad about this but I really like Mark Ruffalo. I'm still bitter about them cutting Norton loose but Mark Ruffalo could really pull this off.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Why cast Banner at all? Here's why...

    by WarrenSmooth

    Because the Hulk is the focal point of the Avengers movie. The main plot is that all these heroes unite to take down a rampaging Hulk. At some point the Hulk will be subdued and will revert back to Banner. This will lead to the reveal of the true villian of the film.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Ruffalo's a solid actor

    by veritasses

    And I like the choice for him to play Banner in The Avengers but I might have some reservations in his ability to play the lead if they decide to make another Hulk movie. He has the sort of presence that works wonderfully in an ensemble or in a supporting role but he may not have the star power to pull everyone (and a larger than life superhero story) along as the lead.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST

    this is awesome casting

    by Grey Ghost

    Out of left field but WOW. Ruffalo is a PERFECT bruce banner. Marvel is on a roll. And for anyone who gripes about continuity with norton -- you do realize that norton was already a replacement for bana, right? Ruffalo is a much better actor than norton, has an honesty to him that suits banner, and will play nice with the cast and crew. Expect epicness with the Avengers.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Tom Cruise is The Incredible Hulk. Robert Downey Jr. is Ironman

    by UltraTron

    Avengers Assemble. We need a gigantic motherfucking superstar to be hulk. Someone as huge as cruise used to be. But cruise can do mighty-mite, napoleonic rage pretty good and I'd buy him as Scientology guy. I mean a scientist.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Good Cast!

    by BlackBriar

    Ruffalo is a good choice; Phoenix is another good choice with they do cast him; Both would be a great Banner.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Ruffalo = good move

    by m_prevette

    I like it - a lot. He's a classy actor, always interesting to watch. Norton will be missed but, Ruffalo will knock it out of the park

  • July 14, 2010, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Joaquin Phoenix is rumoured for the Hulk too

    by brocknroll

    In case you guys haven't heard it is rumoured that Joaquin Phoenix is in negotiations as well. It doesn't matter who takes over the Hulk role. It's gonna suck anyway.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    He looks like JJ Abrams in that top pic.

    by ebonic_plague

    Better hit Asi with the tranq dart before he breaks something. <p> I like this casting choice, but it's not really an improvement over Norton. They must have really hated Norton to do him like that. Too bad, it sounds like he got a bad rap for wanting to make IH a better movie. Seems like Feige has trained with Avi Arad in the art of interfereing with and screwing up comic book movie adaptations.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Loves me Some Norton

    by DangerDave

    but I am ok with this. <P> My only hope is that the Avengers movie has TONS of action and a world shattering supervillan and not just some bullshit Hulk chase.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST

    If they're gonna recast, this is the right direction.

    by George Newman

    I like this. I love the dweeb look from Eternal Sunshine

  • July 14, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST

    If they're gonna recast, this is the right direction.

    by George Newman

    I like this. I love the dweeb look from Eternal Sunshine

  • July 14, 2010, 2:44 p.m. CST

    I've been told I look a bit like Mark Ruffalo

    by D.Vader

  • July 14, 2010, 2:45 p.m. CST

    by Moboada

    Bring Norton Back

  • July 14, 2010, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Joaquin Phoenix Would have been GREAT

    by DangerDave

    That dude is BATSHIT crazy and I love when he gets quiet and angry. I can see that being Banner. Really Banner should be a bit guy with anger issues and tries really hard to keep it under control.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:48 p.m. CST

    "Wiggum forever, Barney never!"

    by HordePrime

    and after the townspeople hear Barney sing, they begin chanting, "Barney forever, wiggum never!" Anyone remember that scene from The Simpsons episode, "Homer's Barbershop Quartet?" That's what this talkback reminds me of. Everyone kicking up a fuss that Norton wasn't asked back, and once they name-drop Mark Ruffalo, suddenly, all is okay again and Edward Norton becomes, Edward Who?

  • July 14, 2010, 2:49 p.m. CST


    by Crestfallen

    I hate this recasting shit.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Both are good actors...

    by ConfusedPanda

    but I do agree with some of you that Joaquin Phoenix is unusually perfect for the role.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Great actor! UHG choice!

    by dead youngling

    Norton ftw

  • July 14, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Ruffalo is an Amazing Actor

    by RpgSama

    I like it. Mark is an amazing actor, always a step to short of making it big. Would i rather have Norton as Hulk for continuity? Yes i Would, but The could have gone a lot worse than with Ruffalo, i really like the casting...

  • July 14, 2010, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Mark Ruffalo Is A Pedestrian Actor (I Say Matt Damon!!!)

    by Media Messiah

    Matt Damon would make a truly great Bruce Banner.

  • July 14, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Good God really?

    by RPLocke


  • July 14, 2010, 3 p.m. CST

    these movies are being recast for a reason..

    by emeraldboy

    the three actors have, one. died. two. been broken by the experience of with the director. three. have been asked not to come back.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Shit, that's actually a good choice

    by MattmanReturns

    I still would've preferred Norton though, for visual continuity.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:03 p.m. CST


    by blackwood

    I like Mark. He is handsome and talented.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Love Me Some Ruffalo

    by Crow3711

    I understand some people will hate this. But I'm on board. I really, really like the guy. he was fucking fantastic in both Zodiac and Shutter Island.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:06 p.m. CST


    by jimmy rabbitte

    I thought Marvel was saying they wanted to cast an unknown actor, for the Banner/Hulk role. Ruffalo is hardly an unknown.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Ruffalo's a great choice

    by TheMcflyFarm

  • July 14, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST

    PrestigeWorldwide you dumb bitchy

    by godhatesusall

    little girl, for someone who spouts off about continuity, you sure are way off with spider-man, the movie rights are not owned by marvel, moron, and for sony to continue holding them they have to make more movies, it was their decision to reboot. SpawnofAchilles is right, banner is going to be a small role and i love how everyone has jumped on the norton band wagon, if he was on this and say decide to walk becaus he wasn't happy with no one letting him rewrite anything what would have happened then...bitchy little girls siding with bitchy little girls

  • July 14, 2010, 3:11 p.m. CST

    This has restored a tiny bit of my excitment

    by OSAMP1

    Now if they can just change the way Thor is looking.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Mark Ruffalo = awesome

    by fat_rancor_keeper inspired choice. Much better than Joaquin Phoenix. It's a shame I'll skip this film anyway b/c of the Norton fiasco (among other shitty Marvel moves). But if he gets the role that's a step in the right direction. <P>In fact I like Mark so much that if the roles were reversed and he was in IM and got shafted and now we were getting Norton....I'd be pissed just the same.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:18 p.m. CST

    correction -

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ...if he was in IH and got shafted and now we were getting Norton....I'd be pissed just the same. <P>And to add to that, I'd hate to get invested in another solid actor like this only to have Mark recast for yet another Hulk reboot or Avengers 2 down the line.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:19 p.m. CST

    I hate people who bitch me bitching about recasting

    by donkingkong

  • July 14, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    You know what the ever-changing Banner casting does?

    by Hervoyel

    It creates an air of "Batman Forever/Batman and Robin" about the Avengers project. Line up enough single appearance Bruce Banners and pretty soon it starts looking like Val Kilmer or George Clooney might take a shot at playing the part. What's Joel Schumacher doing these days? If we give it a little time we could maybe squeeze another villain in. Hold off filming until Arnold finishes his governor gig and he could play some bad guy. He was terrific as Mr. Freeze right? They need to bring Norton back as Banner. If they don't then they might as well just replace RDJ with Benjamin Bratt and save some more money.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Stephen Moyer

    by BrooseTheScharuk

    He plays Bill Compton on True Blood. I think he'd be really good. And I always imagine Banner being quite thin, which Moyer definitely is. Ruffalo seems to be getting a little round lately. If he can lose that, I could accept him in the role.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    i don't get

    by caseymcgehee72

    i don't get why i've read the comment: "DC Needs to follow Marvel's example." I don't get it. a) Everything but Xmen is b-list comments as far as the non-comic book fans, and b) even the xmen movies were boring as fuck and have zero replay value... c) captain american and thor converted 3d? Awful. the country is aware of Flash, Superman and Batman and Green Lantern is going to blow everyone's minds because green lantern has been the best comic book for like forever now... The average joe has no idea what the Avengers is. DC has the icons.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Matt Damon Should Be The Choice

    by Media Messiah

    Mark Ruffalo is not a leading man, and he will not be able to build a blockbuster film franchise. Matt Damon, on the other hand, is just a great, and weighty actor, someone who has proven himself to be a franchise star. He brings a sense of power to his roles, a sense of purpose, and great pathos--a sense of soul that his audiences relate to. His characters, as he portrays them, reflect all the rich peaks and valleys of the human experience. Really, he is the greatest working actor of his generation, bar-none. He would make the best choice for the Hulk if Marvel intends to relaunch the character into his own film franchise, using The Avengers, as they are, as a platform to do so.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Well said PrestigeWorldwide

    by donkingkong

    Very well articulated

  • July 14, 2010, 3:23 p.m. CST


    by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder

    Mark Ruffalo replaced by quivering, quasi-sentient blob of spineless, musousoid, bottomless need who still looks good under the lights. Just the way Hollywood likes it.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Don Cheadle recast as Rulk, Terrence Howard recast as HulkDog

    by donkingkong

  • July 14, 2010, 3:25 p.m. CST

    I buy it. Underrated actor, too

    by palooka_boy

    He's done too many rom-coms to be taken seriously, methinks.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:27 p.m. CST


    by DeusExMachina

    So let's say that Marvel decided to work with Ed Norton. Sure, he's willing to work on the movie and is excited about it, but while on the set he's difficult to work with. He wants to make changes to the script. Him and the director are bumping heads and not getting along. Then, if Norton doesn't like the finished product like he did with The Incredible Hulk, will he refuse to promote the movie? Will he refuse to go to the comic conventions and the premier? I would have liked if Ed Norton was in the movie, but at the end of the day this is still a business and even if Marvel wants to please the fans they have to do what's right for them.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:30 p.m. CST

    David Tennant…

    by 11dayempire

    …would be a good Banner. But still, fuck Marvel for shafting Norton like this. Seriously wondering whether to bother with any more Marvel films, since they've consistently lowballed the talents' salaries and then trashed them in public when they don't suck it up (cf: Norton and Howard).

  • July 14, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST


    by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder

    Maybe if Ruffalo loses about thirty or forty pounds, to look haggard and tormented and like a man on the run...

  • July 14, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    this is all happening so fast.

    by slickerynodes

    i can't take this relationship anymore Marvel. i haven't even gotten over Ed yet. you pricks.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Ruffalo was fantastic in Zodiac

    by seagrass

    This is really great casting, if it happens. He's a much better fit for the part than Bana or Norton were. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just being spiteful.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST


    by godhatesusall

    wow it is rare people who understand the real world come on here and make sense and live outside of a pathetic fanboy wet dream, you are so right, edward norton (who i love as an actor) could have fucked it up big time, too much money at stake if they felt he wasn't a team player

  • July 14, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    And to all you people who keep screaming "Norton!"

    by seagrass

    Give it up already. He was good, but when you have a rep for being difficult to work with, you aren't really going to fit in with an ensemble cast.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    I love Mark Ruffalo in every thing he does, but...

    by beetlegeuse

    he doesn't seem right for Bruce Banner. My vote is for Steve Buscemi

  • July 14, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Too beefcake.

    by Amazing Maurice

    Did I really say that?

  • July 14, 2010, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Great choice

    by tronknotts

    Ruffalo is recognizable, but not so much that it will be distracting (like Norton was). Norton was far from the biggest problem with Incredible Hulk, but he was a problem. For the record, I couldn't get through all of Norton's Hilk movie. It was so incredibly predictable and dull. I really hope that Avengers turns out better than that.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:35 p.m. CST


    by Logan_1973

    Was never big on this guy, not even in SHUTTER ISLAND.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    god I'm glad none of you actually has the power

    by spidercoz

    to do some of the shit I'm seeing here. Matt Damon...jesus fucking christ... <p>I'm fine with replacing Norton, it's unfortunate, but he wouldn't be content with being a supporting character and everyone knows it. Ruffalo is an interesting choice, if it happens I think it'll work out.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST


    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Well said and I concur, but, unfortunately, you're fighting a battle in a war that's over. Let's just all agree to hate Feige and move on. The Norton thing was a bad call and Feige's press release was extremely unprofessional (especially when one considers Norton's Facebook response to being dropped).<p>All that having been said, I don't hate the Ruffalo casting.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:38 p.m. CST

    You know what?

    by kuldan

    ...I stand corrected. Mark is not a bad choice at all. I don't like all the re-tooling, but at least they found a way to keep the freakin' character in the story, and giving a quality actor the part. He was great in "Collateral."

  • July 14, 2010, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Never woulda thought of Ruffalo!

    by HapaPapa72

    But I think it's good someone did. Good for him. I can buy him as Banner. But unless they find some other body builder, paint him green, and WETA-ize his height a la Gandalf, then I still can't give too much of a shit about yet another CGI Hulk. Shit, Ferrigno's still in okay shape, right? Just get him a new wig.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Here's my guess as to why they canned Norton...

    by ebonic_plague

    Marvel got Joss in there to direct because he gets the geek/genre franchise material, and after Fox broke his spirit by cancelling all his shows, Joss is on thin enough ice, professionally, that even the bush-league bean-counters at Marvel can keep him on a short creative leash. After butting heads with Norton on the final edit of Incredible Hulk, Marvel is probably wary of bringing him back again because they're afraid he would either inspire Joss to flex his nuts and buck Marvel's micromanagement of the franchise, or he would just bully Joss into doing things Norton's way, rather than Marvel's. But after this third time of hearing grousing about having to pay for real actors, I have to believe it's Marvel being tightwad control freaks that is causing static on their movies. Any studio that could lowball a pro-bono actor like Sam Jackson must be seriously stingy.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    I just wonder what norton is thinking right now.

    by OSAMP1

  • July 14, 2010, 3:43 p.m. CST


    by godhatesusall

    bitchy little girl

  • July 14, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST


    by godhatesusall

    oh marvel you promised me sniff sniff, now i am so sad that my salty tears stain my spiderman underoos while i jerk off to what might have been, and the only ass pounding is from when i fist your mom

  • July 14, 2010, 3:46 p.m. CST

    From Norton to Ruffalo? What a dive....

    by thot

    Norton is an actor's actor and Ruffalo is dull as dishwater. Don't get how he keeps getting work. A one-note actor for sure. Fail.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST


    by spidercoz

    "they originally wanted a younger high-school version of Peter Parker" <p>which is why they cast someone older than Tobey was at the time <p>dude, get a grip

  • July 14, 2010, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Ok, I'm just curious now.

    by Hervoyel

    Say you were running Marvel Studios and your primary purpose in life was pissing off fanboys. You've just decided to replace all the major parts (Iron Man, Hulk/Banner, Thor, and Captain America) in one fell swoop. Nobody will say no to you. Who do you go with? I'm casting Benjamin Bratt as Tony Stark, Matt Damon as Steve Rogers/Captain America, Crispin Glover as Bruce Banner, and Hulk Hogan as Thor (kids love him!). What would you do?

  • July 14, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST

    seagrass - And to all you people who keep screaming "Norton!"

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ...."when you have a rep for being difficult to work with, you aren't really going to fit in with an ensemble cast." Norton didn't get his bad rep 2 seconds into shooting IH. It was always there. However Marvel had clearly defined plans already in motion to create a series of films uniting the onscreen I'm baffled why they would bring on Norton to begin with when they knew full that he might not "fit in with an ensemble cast." <P> For the record I don't think Norton's rep is half as bad as people claim. I think the man is just passionate about his work, he doesn't take kindly to bullshit and he has a backbone.<P> His not being in Avengers is bullshit. The fact that he showed more class in his statement than Marvel or Feige did with their insulting passive aggressive spin proves that he is the better man. It also shows that he's far from the asshole that REAL assholes make him out to be through school-girlish gossip.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:54 p.m. CST

    I'm fine with this but

    by BillEmic

    Mark needs to keep his weight in check, which constantly seems to be in flux as he gets older. We don't want him to go the D'Onofrio route, especially when Banner has always been a "puny" little weakling.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:56 p.m. CST

    I'm a Ruffalo fan

    by SithMenace

    Especially since Zodiac.

  • July 14, 2010, 3:59 p.m. CST

    BOYCOTTING W/O Norton!!!!

    by darwinmayflower

    Call bullshit all you want, I will get it on Nextflix Bring Norton Back, and I'm in.

  • July 14, 2010, 4 p.m. CST

    He reminds me of Bill Bixby more than the other two

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    Not just in looks but I think he could channel Bixby's humble, intelligent nature that he brought to the character. And that's good because Bill Bixby was the F'n MAN!

  • July 14, 2010, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Woodrow_Wilson_Smith - Joss Whedon has nuts

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    They're just someone else's. And they're in his mouth.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Space fail, W_W_S

    by ebonic_plague

    But I'd buy that cast for a dollar! <p> Also, I agree, Joss has been beaten and abused into nutlessness, but Marvel doesn't want them growing back on their set. And they definitely don't want Norton there to play William Wallace to Whedon's Robert the Bruce.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:04 p.m. CST

    And the answer is...

    by Triple_J_72

    ...NOBODY! CG Banner FTW

  • July 14, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Feige is the new Tom Rothman

    by Yourey

    Continuity is extremely important, because that is the key to creating classic movies for years to come. Otherwise you're just making disposable movies.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST

    That damned Bruce Banner!

    by I Max U Mini

    Every single time he gets into a major confrontation and has to move on, he visits some mad doctor of a plastic surgeon.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Yep, Feige is the new Tom Rothman...

    by ganymede3010

    He's running the Marvel films division like a 3rd world dictator. The only thing he's done right was help get Marvel VS Capcom 3 made.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST

    A great casting choice. Ruffalo will shine as Banner.

    by workshed

    He possesses all the qualities required to pull the role off. I think he's a great, non-starry choice. If this news is true, well done Marvel (though I would personally have liked to see Steve Buschemi in the role).

  • July 14, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST

    A great casting choice. Ruffalo will shine as Banner.

    by workshed

    He possesses all the qualities required to pull the role off. I think he's a great, non-starry choice. If this news is true, well done Marvel (though I would personally have liked to see Steve Buschemi in the role).

  • July 14, 2010, 4:13 p.m. CST


    by btc909

    This is what failure number 3?

  • July 14, 2010, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Great choice

    by elsewhere

    I never even considered Ruffalo, but I could definitely seem him as Banner.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:19 p.m. CST


    by Sgt.Steiner

    is one of the more talented and likeable actors working today. From Chuck in "Shutter Island" to Toschi in "Zodiac" to Stan in "Eternal Sunshine", he is constantly good. I have no doubt he will great as Banner. Still, Marvel set up a new universe and managed to fuck it up. C'est la vie.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:27 p.m. CST


    by rodneyfaile

    I thought the whole idea behind the Avengers movie was to build it up with each character having his own movie and keeping the continuity going by having THE SAME ACTORS UNDER CONTRACT FOR THE AVENGERS! Norton bing replaced isnt as big a deal as replacing someone else like Robert D. Jr. or Sam Jackson ... but it almost is. I thought Norton did a great job. I was looking forward to seeing him and Robert D. Jr and Sam Jackson cram their superhero egos on the same screen. I think the Avengers can still be a good movie ..... but not as good if they could have just held it together.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Thunderbolt Ross

    by rodneyfaile

    Is General Ross in the Avengers at all? Robert D. Jr. had a cameo with him at the end of the Incredible Hulk. They could at least keep some sort of continuity going by having Ross pop up somewhere. Maybe Liv Tyler or something. Of course the Avengers biggest test is waiting to see if Kenneth B. can pull off a convincing Thor movie. A real challenge considering the source material.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:38 p.m. CST


    by vic twenty

    Ruffalo is great, but that 1st pic looks JUST like Bobcat.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Just follow the money

    by maverick2484

    No need for "nutless Whedon" conspiracy theories. Marvel plays financial hardball - that's why Terence Howard got canned as Rhodes, that's why Jackson almost didn't get his long-term deal as Fury, and that's why Rourke was on-again off-again for months on IM2 before it became official. Norton's rep released a statement last week saying that he believed Marvel's decision was motivated by money, and, based on their history, it isn't difficult to believe that at all. Norton probably wanted to get paid like Downey, Marvel wanted to pay him like a member of an ensemble, and a deal couldn't be reached. And frankly, if that's indeed what happened, Marvel was right - Incredible Hulk wasn't a great success either creatively or financially. No one outside of the geek community gives a shit who plays the Hulk's human alter ego, so why let Norton take you to the cleaners? Hell, how many people who don't check this website even remember that Norton played the Hulk? Great move by Marvel, only Downey gets to be bigger than the ensemble because the success of Iron Man has made it so. Ruffalo is a fantastic actor and he'll knock this one out of the park.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:43 p.m. CST

    All these "Great choice" post work for Marvel?

    by riskebiz

    Ruffalo is like Bana ... not right for Banner. He's not skinny and nerdy like Banner is suppose to be like Norton is. He's suppose to be the exact opposite of the Hulk. Buscemi in his day would have been fine. Norton was picture perfect. Ruffalo is as random as can be and there should be casting up the wazoo like there was for the Hulk (unless it's a no-brainer like Norton was). Ruffalo is a dumbass choice for Banner. Dumb. Random. And a complete knee-jerk choice to replace Norton.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Captain America level casting call.

    by riskebiz

    Hulk needs a casting call. Knee-jerk picks like Ruffalo are terrible.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Have a real guy play Hulk, and CGI Banner

    by Crimson Dynamo

    problem solved

  • July 14, 2010, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Great choice with Ruff

    by Flip63Hole

    Too bad I'm boycotting the movie over the d-bag producer...

  • July 14, 2010, 4:54 p.m. CST

    excellent choice!!

    by antonphd

    i've liked him since You Can Count On Me and I always have been in every film i've seen him in. great call following the dumbest call since letting McG direct a Terminator movie.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Banner is a thankless role in the Avengers

    by eg4190

    How much screentime will any of the superhero characters really get in their secret identities? In a 120 page script, Bruce Banner will probably have about three scenes of dialogue when he's not the Hulk. Replacing Norton would have been a much bigger deal if The Incredible Hulk had been more tightly integrated with the Avengers universe. We didn't see Norton having any on-screen chemistry with Tony Stark, Nick Fury or Steve Rogers, so what difference does it make to continuity? It's not like they established Banner's relationship with the other characters in such a way that Ruffalo's casting will fundamentally alter anything.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    What was this Sh!T I was hearing about Norton being unreplacable

    by The Founder

    Just like I said you whining ass bitche$. There are quite a few good actors that can fill the role. Although someone beat me to it I mentioned Ruffalo as a solid replacement as well as a few others and oh by the way F-UCK Edward fuck!ng Norton. When in the he'll this guy become pure actor gold all of a sudden where he is so damn great he can't be replaced once he plays a character. All u lame as moos going on and on and on and on about Norton this and Norton that and Marvel should bend over and take what ever sh!t he shoves up their ass to get him back. Please, after all this sickening lovefest over Norton I'm glad his ass is gone.

  • July 14, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Mark is more Banner than Bana and Norton

    by antonphd

    at least in my opinion. those guys are too A type personality. even Bana who tried to hide it. Mark is solid B type and that's Banner. and that's Hulk. Hulk is a B type personality.

  • July 14, 2010, 5 p.m. CST

    Can someone explain to me why

    by The Founder

  • July 14, 2010, 5:10 p.m. CST


    by slone13

    Fuck Norton. And Bana was a frickin' bore.

  • July 14, 2010, 5:10 p.m. CST

    You Can Count On Me

    by Rupee88

    Yes just a great movie..very moving but not mauldlin at all. Ruffalo is very likable and a good actor and could see him as Banner for sure.

  • July 14, 2010, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Please explain again why Norton is worth so much money

    by The Founder

    I don't know what the guy was asking for salary wise but for some to say it was stupid for Marvel not to pay him what he wanted is asinine. Norton is a good actor no doubt but a box office draw he's not. I don't know if it's true he wanted RDJ level compensation but if he did and I was in marvel's shoes I too would've moved on to another actor. As for this situation with both Jackson and Rourke and Marvel not wanting to pay them all I can say is they too were probably asking for a lot but the difference is these guys had history and enough accomplishments where the could demand more then what Marvel was willing to pay. Jackson has had a solid career for quite a number of years so he is understandable. Rourke had success a number of years ago and established himself as a solid lead and although his career seemed to have stalled the fact that he came back and won an Oscar(did he win) or was nominated and was getting a lot of critical praise gave him a good position. Norton wasn't in the position as those two.

  • July 14, 2010, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Jackie Chan or Christopher Walken would be

    by My best friend

  • July 14, 2010, 5:17 p.m. CST

    perfect as Banner

    by My best friend

  • July 14, 2010, 5:21 p.m. CST

    banner is supposed to be a geek

    by brabon300

    the kind of guy other guys kick sand on at that beach<p>ruffalo is too cute and doesnt play neurotic well

  • July 14, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST

    I'm not crazy about this guy. I'm sure he's a good...

    by FlickaPoo, but he lacks...what do they call it...presence?

  • July 14, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    13 going on 30 is all I have to say

    by Seph_J

    about this guy. <p> He's not a bad actor, not at all.... infact I remember in that Meg Ryan's Tits film he was good too.... but <p> 13 going on 30.

  • July 14, 2010, 5:32 p.m. CST

    It's funny how Marvel Studios has...

    by Linguo_IS_Dead

    screwed up their own continuity worse than multiple studios ever could have.

  • July 14, 2010, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Mark Ruffalo = the poor man's...

    by David_Denmans_Beard

    equivalent of Benjamin Bratt. I never pictured Banner as the schlubby type, so if he ends up in the role I expect it'll be so minimal that people will forget he's there compared to the CGI presence of the Hulk himself.

  • July 14, 2010, 5:40 p.m. CST

    13 going on 30

    by antonphd

    the best chick flick i've ever had to sit through.

  • July 14, 2010, 5:42 p.m. CST

    It is a shame about

    by Seph_J

    Norton being out - and I'm sure Marvel are just as pissed about it as we are.... but if Norton really was as much of an asshole as it seems he was then I'd rather replace him and get some decent movies, than keep him, keep continuity and have him fuck up the movies. <p> It's a shame that that is the choice, but if it is then Marvel have made the right choice. <p> Ruffalo is growing on me actually. I can see that. As long as he changes his acting style a little bit. I mean, the guy is good, but a little... how should I put it.... dreary???

  • July 14, 2010, 5:47 p.m. CST


    by Seph_J

    yes, Buscemi would have been great. <p> infact, probably still would.

  • July 14, 2010, 5:49 p.m. CST

    The Founder.....get a grip.

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    How can can you fail to understand why others may be upset about Norton not being in the movie? <P>It's not a "sickening lovefest" if you think about it at all.<P> FIRST, many fans clearly felt Norton did a good job so why replace him?<P> SECOND, it seems like he's being replaced for possibly wrong & bullshit reasons. <P>THIRD, Feige came off as a total douche in his statement. <P>FOURTH, (and worst of all) by recasting Norton you lose continuity and we end up with a third take on Bruce Banner. <P>FIFTH, by recasting Banner after having also recast Howard (and notable having issues with Sam Jackson, Rourke & Favrou) it's starting to look like it's pointless getting invested in any Marvel properties or the actors that play key roles because odds are after one movie your favorite - will be gone.....The list goes on......

  • July 14, 2010, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Love Ruffalo, but this whole thing stinks

    by barnaby jones

    Bring back Norton, otherwise the setting up the universe premise doesn't work.

  • July 14, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST


    by fat_rancor_keeper

    If Norton was as much of an asshole as people claim and gossip about he would never have gotten the Hulk part in the first place.<P> Also he would have responded to that shitty insulting statement by Kevin Feige with a lot more venom as opposed to being totally classy and respectable. He was a million times more professional than Marvel or Feige have been on the issue...and he's the guy who is out of a job while these assholes are still sitting behind their desks.

  • July 14, 2010, 5:58 p.m. CST

    GTFO Marvel

    by KISSman24

    Ruffalo is such a no-impact actor. What a fucking downgrade. Eat my ass, Marvel. Bring back Norton now.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Ruffalo is gonna

    by brattyben

    own this part. He's got serious acting chops, and I've pretty much liked him in everything he does. Between Garners beauty and his great line delivery, it's the only reason I can stand 13 going on 30. Yeah, I said it.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:09 p.m. CST

    And in the next film, Bruce Banner will be played by...

    by The_Floating_Skull_of_Robert_Loggia

    The dude who plays the ambiguously gay warehouse worker on The Office. In the film after that, Banner will be portrayed by my nextdoor neighbor. And after that, a cardboard cutout from a liquor store...

  • July 14, 2010, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Incredibly Lame - what the hell happened to inspired casting?

    by BattleAngel29A

    This guy ruined Eternal Sunshine for me. He couldn't have possibly been less obvious in giving away the twist in Shutter Island. I've been trying, very diligently, to getting into what Ruffalo is about, but I just can't stop thinking that he's like the genetic splice of the worst parts of Benjamin Bratt and Vincent D'Onofrio... there's something about him that just *pisses me off*. He seems like such a pussy, I could never imagine him getting angry enough to become The Hulk. This is seriously the most uninspired, default casting I've heard about in a while. Phoenix is probably all kinds of wrong for the part, but that's an inspired choice! And while we're talking about uninspired choices... get a load of how fucking *awful* that Thor screen snap looks. Can it get much shittier looking than that? Is Marvel just trying to hand D.C. the bad ass award? WTF......... how the hell did they pass on Alexander Skarsgard in favor of Chris Hemmeroid? The dude looks like he travels at all times with baby wipes and baby powder for those little "oopsy" moments where he plops out a single, tiny, hard pebble of poop. And Loki?? WTF... Back to Mark Ruffalo. No. No, Mark Ruffalo, you cannot play Bruce Banner. Bruce Banner is officially in hibernation (at best). Ed Norton (who I also have lots of problems with) was Bruce Banner- when someone of that caliber accepts a role in a super hero movie and puts his artistry behind it, he owns the role. That's why Punisher War Zone doesn't really exist (although it does)... Tom Jane isn't playing the Punisher. Was Tom Jane the obvious choice for Frank Castle? hellllllll no. But he stepped up and really took it on as his own. That's a dude who clearly lived and breathed that role, was as psyched about that role as can be. And because of that, he owns the role. It's his now. Just like The Joker belongs legitimately to both Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger, who both completely owned the characters. That's what this is about. Good actors OWNING their stupid ass super hero role, and making it REAL. RDJ did this, Ed Norton did this, Tom Jayne did this...... Alex Skarsgard would have absolutely brought Thor to life. Matt Damon arguably did this with Borne (marred by a horrible director and his loyalty to said director). Above all, Michael Caine *thoroughly owns* as Alfred. Toby McGuire did *not* do this. Whatever his name, Rhodey1, did not do this. Chris Hemmeroid is not going to do it. Mark Ruffalo is the last person on the planet who could possibly do it. The dude is just absolutely lame. Sharlto/Buscemi/Phoenix - make a deal. Get someone with some balls, some insanity, who knows how to dive into a part and invest real life, real vitality. Someone who, even though Banner will likely not matter in the end, will make those few moments exceptionally memorable. Please.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Inspired casting

    by TheSplinter

    Forget the haters, Ruffalo is a great actor and will bring good chemistry to the role. I like it, and he's a good guy, too, from all accounts. I hope it happens.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:21 p.m. CST

    I am an incessant (sp?) bitcher but in two words:

    by Boober

    F*cking Awesome. A theatrically trained artist who puts craft before ego and ALWAYS seems to enhance the value of the productions he is in. An ultimate utility player. PERFECT CASTING. BRAVO.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:21 p.m. CST


    by Thanos0145

    GOING TO SUCK!<p>Good thing Batman3 is coming out in the summer of 2012.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:22 p.m. CST


    by chien_sale

    If people thought Erik Bana did not emote enough, how about Ruffalo! Terrible choice! We need someone with at least some emotion.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Unless the Riddler uses SAW-style tactics...

    by Boober

    or gets a massive overhaul, Batman 3 is going to be a tragic parody of the first 2...J.D. or no J.D.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Very cool choice!

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    He may have to shed a few pounds to look the part though. You know, Banner is supposed to be the skinny nerd. Rufalo is not skinny...and doesn't resemble a stereotypical nerd in the least!

  • July 14, 2010, 6:25 p.m. CST


    by skani

    Nothing against Mark Ruffalo, but I've never seen the appeal which is in my opinion the same reason he's never "broken out" despite many opportunities. He's a final character actor, and I'm sure he'll do a competent job, but this is a "safe," uninteresting choice.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:26 p.m. CST

    i mean..

    by skani

    Okay, I'm tired. He's a "fine character actor," but he's boring.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:29 p.m. CST


    by skani

    Right, I totally agree. It's possible that Ruffalo will surprise us and deliver on all the hype, but I doubt it. I would describe his performances as "as competent as they are forgettable."

  • July 14, 2010, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Why are people so confused about Ruffalo?

    by Boober

    Wow, an actor who actually takes direction and adapts to the vision of the film he is in. We don't need an actor who projects the whole "Watch me as actor X portray a guy as he melodramatically changes into the HULK!!!!" Eff that. Downey is awesome because he IS Stark. Ruffalo will become Banner.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:33 p.m. CST

    I vote Floating Skull's post as...

    by Boober

    funniest retort of the week, agree or no. FUNNY SH!T!

  • July 14, 2010, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Shit casting

    by Kontarsky

    God, the suggestions from a few days ago were way better

  • July 14, 2010, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Ruffalo will become Banner

    by skani

    I'm not an Iron Man buff, but I know from watching Downey's other films that there is a hell of a lot of Robert Downey in that role. Cocky, playful, devilish..."it." I agree that this is not the right persona for Banner, but we need something. Quirky (Cage), Stoic/Gentle/Bixby (okay, I'm coming around on Matthew Fox), geeky (Colbert), geeky eccentric (Buscemi, but I still say he's too old). Ruffalo's not going to have enough lines to slowly marinate into his role, stake out his territory, etc. We need someone with more magnetism and/or quirkiness.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Kinda like when my wife brings home a fatty for a 3-way

    by 3D-Man

    Not my first choice, but not a deal breaker either.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Sharlto Copley

    by TheDudeinLA

    He is the best choice out there!

  • July 14, 2010, 6:41 p.m. CST


    by skani

    Your particular simile kinda makes me want to barf, but I'm in basic agreement. Not a deal-breaker, but certainly not inspired either. Still, unless Ruffalo and Hulk are absolutely magical in this, I see any future stand-alone Ruffalo/Hulk pic as attracting even less of an audience than the first two.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:43 p.m. CST

    then it is a sad day for acting

    by skani

  • July 14, 2010, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Matt Damon?

    by skani

    Someone suggested Matt Damon. I gotta tell you, I am in full Matt Damon burnout mode. Unless he plays it straight geeky, kinda like Tom Ripley but without the homocidal/homoerotic stuff.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST


    by redkamel

    Hes ok, but sure as hell no Norton. <p>I wish they would cast people that look older than 30 in movies.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Looks like...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...I'll have to break out the "Marvel Can Suck My Cock" t-shirt I got from Hart Fisher back in 95 for the next geek shindig I go to.

  • July 14, 2010, 6:55 p.m. CST

    I'm waiting for someone to suggest Charlie Day.

    by DiscoGodfather


  • July 14, 2010, 6:55 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper I stand by my comments on Norton

    by The Founder

    Look man I respect your opinions as well as others with credible comments but at some point you gotta say enough already. This tb has gone way overboard concerning Norton. I like the guy as an actor and I didn't have a problem at all with his Hulk film but I can accept a change. Now do i want continuity? Sure but Norton is no RDJ. Norton's Hulk performed mediocre, which in terms gives the guy no leverage to demand an RDJ level salary( don't know if he ever did) some amount of creative control and what ever the hell else he wanted. All most can say about Norton is that he is indeed an awesome actor but he doesn't have a successful track record box office wise as a leading man or top biller. Norton's rep as being difficult to work with is a hindrance to his career. If the dude was Wiil Smith level successful in terms of box office then studios and directors would put up with him cause he can plant asses is seats but he's not. Norton major success at the box office was do in part to the source material then people wanting to see him. I would love to have seen Norton on board but I'm not gonna go on and on and on and on about his departure. Ruffalo is a more then suitable. My concerns about this film is in other areas such as Joss Whedon at the helm and Zak Penn as writer last I checked then being focused on Ed Norton staying on

  • July 14, 2010, 7 p.m. CST

    future solo hulk / better choices

    by BattleAngel29A

    Skani - agreed. Ruffalo/Hulk solo pic is impossible. The dude has all the personality of a plunger. That said, I think a Hulk solo pic in general would be very hard to do at this point. <p> Hulk *is* an awesome ensemble character, he's great to base a story around. The Ultimate Hulk vs. Wolverine is an awesome, awesome read. Hulk/banner get some face time, as does Wolvie, but it's really how they play off eachother that make them both bad asses. The Hulk would be a great character to keep as a foil for more classic, leading characters. Future solo Hulk films would have to have other Marvel character appearances in order to work. <p> The only dude who could pull off a solo Hulk film at this point is Sharlto Copley. That is seriously insanely inspired casting - it's really quite perfect. I don't even care if he has the same accent from District 9. There is something very comfortable about knowing that's the guy inside the Hulk. And his banter with RDJ (if ever a scene like that was allowed) would just be beyond priceless. You need someone who can banter. Ed Norton/RDJ would have been hilarious and actually believably tense. <p> I know the ship has sailed on Ed, but man, this kind of backstory is PERFECT for the character. He would literally be on the verge of holding back his inner self the entire time. It would make for some palpably vital drama and would probably be the kind of acting x-factor (no pun) that would elevate this film to the kind of thing IM1 was. <p> I'm holding out hope they'll cast literally *anyone* other than boring ass Mark Ruffalo. Mark Ruffalo has *never* become a part. He's been boring, lame, "why the hell do you have a career? oh it's because people think you look like benjamin bratt" actor in every single movie I've seen from him. <p> The Dark Knight *didn't* have Crispin Glover, Paul Bettany or any of the obvious choices. And because they went with pretty boy Heath Ledger, they got someone who literally owned their role. That is how movies should be casted. <p> The moment people say "ah, whatever, Bruce will be in it for 10 minutes tops, who cares" is the moment you give Hollywood mooks to cut corners and punch the clock on every aspect of a film that DOES matter. It's how a film maker/studio respects the smallest details that lets you know how the important flagship details we be treated. Every artist I've ever known who had *real* vision has always reveled in the details.... where the devil is.

  • July 14, 2010, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Topher Grace? Thank god none of you have power

    by The Founder

    Seriously this guy may look closer to banner as depicted in comics but his acting is so so and he's been the same character in all ive seen him in including That 70's show.

  • July 14, 2010, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Ruffalo is good.

    by Nocturama

    What I said.

  • July 14, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST


    by skani

    -Norton may have been great in this, but nothing about IH warrants that prediction -I think this movie has a lot of inherent problems just based on the diversity and sheer number of characters and alter egos. The best of the superhero movies find a way to make it plausible that this person could actually exist. When you started trying to weave all of these mythologies together, it gets dicey fast. And with movies, you even have different sensibilities as to cinematography and lighting, different milieus (think Gotham vs. LA in Iron Man). Beyond that is just the fact that it gets bloated, because you've got scenes that mostly exist for the purpose of re-introducing characters, having them meet one another, etc. In that situation, it's hard to have something that is really driven by a good plot when you've got all of these other issues to deal with. And if you don't make those introductions satisfactorily, then that's not satisfying either, because what are all these people doing together (one of those lame prefatory paragraphs is not going to cut it) it's kind of a rock and hard place.

  • July 14, 2010, 7:14 p.m. CST

    by BattleAngel29A

    I think Bradley Cooper, at one point at least, could have pulled it off. Cillian Murphy would be another good choice, Casey Affleck, etc... I don't know.<p> I would imagine the studio would want to cast someone who could actually spearhead another Hulk movie if it came down to it, as well as elevate this movie. I think Sharlto Copley is the only guy who could headline a hulk feature and also reallllly elevate the Avengers. We all know that Thor is going to be a diarrhea-guzzling suck fest, so you can count out any cool factor from that. <p> Let's be honest here, the only thing that put Marvel on the map is RDJ - if these guys were smart, they would find a few other actors who could repeat the trick and continue the legacy for the studio of having great casts with people who will dream about ways to make their movie better. RDJ ain't going to be around forever, and when he leaves (or if he's barely in Avengers), you can close the case on the Marvel Studios experiment unless you keep the spark alive. Very, very curious to see how Captain America does. I think that could be another shocker of a fun film - Thor is going to just straight up gobble nuts. It's going to be the greediest ass eater of a film imaginable, just eating asshole left and right. ::shudder::

  • July 14, 2010, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Fantastic choice

    by Tad Ghostal

    Ed who now?

  • July 14, 2010, 7:18 p.m. CST


    by BattleAngel29A

    I think that towards the end of IM2, the filmmakers became very clever about how to wink at the audience about the insanity of what is to come. The lines like "you can't afford me," etc. - if they can play up the absurdity of the situation while also packing the film full of gutbusting, breathtaking action, that's all that's necessary to make this one a success. I think it's eminently doable.

  • July 14, 2010, 7:21 p.m. CST

    More on continuity...

    by skani

    Seriously, I understand the complaint that not casting ruins continuity. And I even accept that this is much worse than Howard/Cheadle, because Banner is much more central to the universe. But my think is that the Hulk/Hulk world they created in IH does not deserve to be part of Avengers. IH was lame. It's not worth fighting for. I would rather see Marvel correct their mistake and give us a better Hulk than have them keep throwing good money/effort/screen time after bad by including the IH version of Hulk (and don't get me started on William Hurt as Ross) in Avengers. That said, I don't think this new Hulk is going to be any better than the old. Bottom line is that I want Marvel to keep making Hulk films, and I want every single one of them to be a reboot until they get the effing thing right.

  • July 14, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Dull as dishwater. BAD, BAD, BAD choice.

    by JuanSanchez

  • July 14, 2010, 7:25 p.m. CST


    by skani

    Yeah, I was saying in an earlier post that I think they actually did a good job w/ Freddy vs. Jason (I know, wrong genre, wrong set of geeks). That movie did a good job of weaving together the two worlds and sensibilities and making something that could be fun for fans of either genre. That may sound easy given the obvious highbrow tastes of slasher fans, but it really is difficult, and I had every expectation that they would get it wrong and it would just be depressing. Still, even Freddy vs. Jason was ultimately pretty forgettable. I had a lot of fun and so did the whole theater, but I've only re-watched it once and probably won't watch it again.

  • July 14, 2010, 7:27 p.m. CST


    by th3480

    Great choice. Loved him in "Blindness" and "Eternal Sunshine..."

  • July 14, 2010, 7:32 p.m. CST

    I like it, I wanna see it, Ed Norton didnt look the part

    by DioxholsterReturns

    this guy feels hulkish without being green

  • July 14, 2010, 7:34 p.m. CST

    shitty actor

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    feels like he has a disdain for the audience.

  • July 14, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST


    by BattleAngel29A

    Well of course the thing was mostly unforgettable because it wasn't Freddie Vs. Jason Vs. Ash ;) <p> I agree. TIH is far, far from an ideal Hulk film. I actually think Steve Buscemi would be an amazing pick- why can't Betty/Bruce be more mature in age? RDJ ain't a spring chicken and frankly neither is Gwyneth Paltrow. How cool would Steve Buscemi/Sharlto Copley and Charlotte Gainsbourg be?? Or fuck it... can we just do away with the Betty character and not be constantly going all King Kong with this character?

  • July 14, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST

    As Vince McMahon says....

    by Joe Huber

    It's all about the moneyyyyyy! Replacing Tobey Maguire with whatshisname is the difference between however many millions Tobey was getting and the $500,000 the new guy is getting. I'm sure Norton wasn't the problem at all, his reputation is what they used to save big bucks. Now the movie is ruined somewhat. Who wasn't looking forward to the big names joining together? Oh yeah we live in a time when young and younger rules the theaters. Sucks because the older guys can act circles around these Twilight wannabes. Next up Robert Downey Jr is replaced by Chris Evans who will be pulling triple duty when they decide to have him play the new Iron Man, Captain America and Human Torch in a guest appearance. Saves money, why not? Marvel is getting cheap. Wait until the results come in, oh forget that if two crappy BAYformers movies do hundreds of millions we are all doomed to mediocrity when Avengers is utter crap and pulls in a billion. Changing continuity by recasting worked for Iron Man 2 and The Dark Knight but this has to hurt in some way. Ed Norton is a great actor! Now we won't get to see Norton's Banner play against Downey's Stark. This sucks big-time.

  • July 14, 2010, 7:36 p.m. CST

    absolutely sucked in zodiac

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    always cranky and bitchy as the detective, what an asshole.

  • July 14, 2010, 7:37 p.m. CST


    by Uncle Stan

    Idiots! Banner is a wuss and a nerd, not a Hollywood hunk. Fuck you all.

  • July 14, 2010, 7:43 p.m. CST

    LIke it really matters who plays Hulk

    by NHRonin

    Do people really give a shit who plays puny Banner? In the Avengers movie, it'll be all about Hulk smash!

  • July 14, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST

    I liked Norton.. but..

    by jazzylg

    It's more about the Hulk, than Banner, so they could have got Justin T-Lake, I wouldn't care. Or just made a cgi Banner, as long as they get the Hulk right!

  • July 14, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Skani: I Said Matt Damon

    by Media Messiah

    I wouldn't play it geeky, if I were him--no, he should play it the way Bill Bixby an average joe, but one with above average intelligence, and tremendous determination to defeat the beast within him. Bixby's Hulk/Banner was thrust into a story that was very much like The Fugitive, and thus, the character had great pathos. Such a film needs someone like Matt Damon who is smart and commanding as an actor. He fades into a character, and yes, he will be very much like Ripley in that the Hulk is a riff on Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde...and it is Damon that can play such a complicated, involving, and evolving role (a dangerous and unpredictable character), and make you like him in the end. Ruffalo, no.

  • July 14, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Go with Duchovny.

    by JuanSanchez

  • July 14, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST

    I second David Tennant...

    by SnapT

    ...if he can do a good American accent. Otherwise Duchovny would be great. Or just make up with Norton, he made that last HULK movie worth watching! I saw it twice and wasn't bored.

  • July 14, 2010, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Whedon isn't allowed to cast his own movie

    by Tall_Boy66

    Really. Hollywood Reporter / Bleeding cool sez that Ruffalo was offered and Whedon had zero say in it. Glad to see he's standing up for directorial vision. Bring back Norton!

  • July 14, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST


    by Rob0729

    Several things: <br><br> Norton winning the title role in the Incredible Hulk was no real prize when it comes to the film world. The first Hulk was a disapointment and considered a failure. You weren't going to get any A list star to take on the role of Bruce Banner at that point. Most stars with a strong career will not jump into a franchise midstream replacing the lead role. The only time I can think of it happening is Jack Ryan movies. <br><br> Second, I think he got the role in the first place because he was probably the biggest name they could get who lended some legitimacy for the project. After Ang Lee's Hulk turned off a lot of the viewing public, they couldn't go with a complete unknown in the title role. Norton does have a good reputation as a great actor even if he isn't a box office draw which was a better gamble than paying an unknown for the movie.<br><br> Third, as The Founder said, The Incredible Hulk was a disapointment at the box office. It didn't make back it's money domestically. That is a strong indication that most of the movie viewing public don't really care if Norton returns. The people on this board represent a very small portion of the viewing audience of a major summer blockbuster. Also, a decent segment of this board would go see it if they replaced Ed Norton with Paulie Shore. <br><br> Fourth, Marvel already had problems with Norton in the editing and promotion of The Incredible Hulk. Whether if Norton's idea of how the film should be cut was right or wrong, it is a pattern for him to cause problems when things are not his way. His return was alway not great to begin with and he was going to have to win over the director and agree to certain things which he may or not have.<br><br> Fifth, as for how things played out in the public the last week or so, I say kudos to Norton's PR manager and shame on you to Marvel's. Virtually no actor issues a statement that is written by themselves. They have PR companies to write these things to put them in the best light. Norton shuns the press to begin with, but do agree that his PR manager seems very classy based on what he/she wrote. Marvel's PR manager should take some lessons.

  • July 14, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Jon Hamm? Somerichs...

    by OutsideChance you know ANYthing about Banner or the Hulk? Banner is supposed to be a geek/wimp/nerd, not someone who looks like superhero.

  • July 14, 2010, 8:28 p.m. CST

    Norton Ruffalo

    by Morte_Bea_Arthur

    That guy is a wicked harmonica player.

  • July 14, 2010, 9:06 p.m. CST

    PLLEASSEEEE, MARVEL!!! kiss and make up!!

    by T 1000 xp professional

    I like Ruffalo a lot and everything, but keep Norton for continuity's sake and that's the whole reason for this Avengers movie to begin with. Norton was the perfect Banner. :*(**

  • July 14, 2010, 9:06 p.m. CST

    PLLEASSEEEE, MARVEL!!! kiss and make up!!

    by T 1000 xp professional

    I like Ruffalo a lot and everything, but keep Norton for continuity's sake and that's the whole reason for this Avengers movie to begin with. Norton was the perfect Banner. :*(**

  • July 14, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST


    by BuffDaddy


  • July 14, 2010, 9:21 p.m. CST


    by skani

    He's already done three man-on-the-run films with Bourne trilogy. Obviously, it's not exactly the same thing, but I think it would be too reminiscent of Bourne to have him evading cops and special ops guys, moving from city to city, not forming relationships because he's always on the run. Too much Bourne deja vu baggage.

  • July 14, 2010, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Mark my words- Ruffalo will be the new Columbo

    by Carl's hat

    Ruffalo, you don't need this role. Your destiny is Lt.Columbo.

  • July 14, 2010, 9:24 p.m. CST


    by JackSlater4

    Although Alexander Skarsgard would have made a good Thor, he would be a terrible Superman.<P> I do however believe the next Superman IS on True Blood, the werewolf Alcide, played by Joe Manganiello.<P> That dude totally looks the part, is big, could get bigger, is italian (Superman, written by Mario Puzo, father played by Marlon Brando, black slicked back hair with greasy front curl, etc.) I see Superman all over that guys face everytime I watch that fucking show, and he would look more the part than any actor to date.<P> "But Jack Slater part 4, what about his big nose?"<P> Foolish underling, it's no bigger than Brandon Routh's nose, and he has the strong jaw to compensate, it's not like it's Adrien "Big Nose" Brody levels.<P> On topic, Mark Ruffalo was really good in Shutter Island and looks like the Hulk, which I like.<P> Please Marvel, Please Disney, let the actor who plays Banner perform the mocap as HULK. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stop dropping that ball.

  • July 14, 2010, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Will they even go ahead with this movie....

    by jaysin420

    if/when Thor bombs?

  • July 14, 2010, 9:30 p.m. CST

    how quickly things change

    by LemonHeadRon

    since news of Norton being dropped I've been all "dude Nortons the man get him back! get him back!" Ruffalo's name comes along and I'm thinking. PERFECT! he would rock at Banner. My only concern would be if they have the Hulk as the bad guy in the film ala' Ultimates. Ruffalo might come across as too nice a guy.

  • July 14, 2010, 9:32 p.m. CST

    The Trouble With Steve Buscemi as Banner...

    by NativeGaijin that he would only work in an ensemble movie like the Avengers where his back story and personal life are trivialized or completely ignored. Think about it. If The Avengers is a big enough hit to inspire Marvel to give the Hulk another go in a standalone picture, who would you cast as Betty Ross opposite Buscemi? Hollywood being Hollywood, the chances of them making a movie without at least one significant female role (read "love interest") is pretty much non-existent. That being the case, what bankable female star would you cast who would be believable as Steve Buscemi's girlfriend? Jennifer Connelly or Liv Tyler? I don't think so, even if Buscemi was 20 years younger. Maybe it's because I'm an old-school Hulk fan, but I never bought the retconned "Bruce Banner is a wuss" idea. To me, the only reason he's the Hulk is BECAUSE he had the courage to risk his life to save a stupid kid. The Hulk is capable of being a hero because Banner always had it in him. That's the one trait that Norton brought to Banner that I hope they don't lose.

  • July 14, 2010, 9:46 p.m. CST

    my other True Blood pick is

    by JackSlater4

    Ryan Kwanten, who plays Jason Stackhouse, for The Flash.

  • July 14, 2010, 9:46 p.m. CST

    my other True Blood pick is

    by JackSlater4

    Ryan Kwanten, who plays Jason Stackhouse, for The Flash.

  • July 14, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST

    The King Says Yea

    by KingKirby

    I'm actually really positive about Ruffalo joining the group as puny Banner. I looked at the top photo and immediately thought of the tv series' "Lonely Man Theme". I could see Ruffalo getting his science on as super smarty Banner and then changing into Hulk. I mean, Norton for continuity sake would be cool, but Kevin Feige pretty much publicly screwed that particular pooch. No, I think Ruffalo has a vulnerable quality to him...peaceful, calm, sedate...then boom!

  • July 14, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST

    If Manganiello doesn't get Superman

    by JackSlater4

    sign that fucker up for Frank Castle

  • July 14, 2010, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Joss "failure" Whedon better shoot this fucker in 3D

    by JackSlater4

    I know he's a sackless pushover pussy tween girl, but he really should insist, or at least ask executive producer Jon Favreau to talk to the "scary executives" on his behalf.

  • July 14, 2010, 9:54 p.m. CST

    The Trouble With Steve Buscemi as Banner...

    by NativeGaijin that he would only work in an ensemble movie like the Avengers where his back story and personal life are trivialized or completely ignored. Think about it. If The Avengers is a big enough hit to inspire Marvel to give the Hulk another go in a standalone picture, who would you cast as Betty Ross opposite Buscemi? Hollywood being Hollywood, the chances of them making a movie without at least one significant female role (read "love interest") is pretty much non-existent. That being the case, what bankable female star would you cast who would be believable as Steve Buscemi's girlfriend? Jennifer Connelly or Liv Tyler? I don't think so, even if Buscemi was 20 years younger. Maybe it's because I'm an old-school Hulk fan, but I never bought the retconned "Bruce Banner is a wuss" idea. To me, the only reason he's the Hulk is BECAUSE he had the courage to risk his life to save a stupid kid. The Hulk is capable of being a hero because Banner always had it in him. That's the one trait that Norton brought to Banner that I hope they don't lose.

  • July 14, 2010, 10:01 p.m. CST


    by MisterHyde

    Fuck that. I want Norton. Fuck the avengers now.

  • July 14, 2010, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Downey Jr to be replaced by Jaden Smith!!!

    by Tikidonkeypunch

    And Daddy Smith is to replace Samuel L Jackson

  • July 14, 2010, 10:37 p.m. CST


    by BattleAngel29A

    Darko - I've been pretty drunk while writing these responses... but your big mammoth post takes the cake for "drunk sounding" rambling that still 100% makes sense and is unarguably brilliant. <p> Jack Slater- You are also completely correct about your Superman/Frank Castle casting. That dude is completely, completely perfect the more that I think about it. That's what I'm talking about, inspired casting!!! I'll also take Jason Stackhouse for the flash. <p> Also, NativeGanjin, I think Charlotte Gainsbourg would be a perfect Betty for Steve Buscemi. Hey, she already fucked Willem Defoe on screen. Someone like that, an edgy "I'd bone a crazy looking skinny older weirdo scientist because I'm obsessed with his beautiful soul and mine" chick, would totally work. <p> The problem with Hulk is they haven't gone freako enough! I think Ang Lee was right to try to make it a bit of an art house flick - he just compleeeetely botched the job. The Hulk is a very strange character and deserves a *very* strange movie to go along with it. Mating The Hulk with standard formula = fail. But giving The Hulk a movie that is coherent, exciting, and absolutely cult-classic-level bizarre = amazing. I really don't understand why they can't get better Hulk FX... But they have to make it a freako movie. Romantic hollywood types, no. Engaging, somewhat attractive for their weirdness indie movie types = yes. Imagine Charlotte Gainsbourg and Ed Norton/Sharlto/Steve Buscemi. It's the ultimate geek love. A hot girl who convincingly would love someone, even if they looked like a total lunatic.... Mark Ruffalo should just play Jeremy Piven's younger brother in something and then retire. There is absolutely no gravitas to that guy. Man, the Steve Buscemi call is *so* good. I would literally go nuts to see that guy give the "you wouldn't like me when I'm angry" spiel. The movie you could create w/ Steve Buscemi as The Hulk is really amazingly priceless and classic.

  • July 14, 2010, 10:41 p.m. CST


    by BattleAngel29A

    the movie you would create w/ Steve Buscemi is the movie they should have made with Ed Norton. I guess that really is what it comes down to - for all his fussing, Ed Norton wasn't able to make a good Hulk flick. Dude should have turned it into the 5X crazier version of Fight Club. A Hulk movie should be a classic, "how the fuck did they get that approved" movie that gets referenced again and again. It should be the Fear and Loathing of big comic book films. Smash and grab Hulk doesn't work on the big screen in the same way Punisher doesn't work on the big screen... it's King Kong and Death Wish -> comic books -> back to the screen and it doesn't work. You have to really cleverly re-cinematize this stuff in a way that sets its own bar, doesn't just ape classic pre-existing stuff.

  • July 14, 2010, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Ruffalo is OK in general but awful for Banner

    by manifestchaos

    my $0.02

  • July 14, 2010, 11:03 p.m. CST

    don't understand the hate

    by bluetunehead

    i think he's an excellent choice

  • July 14, 2010, 11:07 p.m. CST


    by the Green Gargantua

    Cuz that would suck, I can see the character being amazing.

  • July 14, 2010, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Hooray for Ruffalo

    by _Lizarkeo

    Agreed, Norton was great in IH, but shite happens and we don't know the actual story behind, so let's move on. <p><p> In Shutter Island, I was only convinced that Dicaprio was a mental patient when Ruffalo came in as his doctor. Great performance, great actor. <b><b> I still support Marvel Studios. Original or replacement, always with QUALITY choices. Now, get the X-characters back and give us the X-Factor and New Mutants TV shows ASAP, heh. <p><p> "Talk to the claw!"

  • July 14, 2010, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Mark my words the key to this movie happening is

    by Phategod2

    RDJ. if he cancels or quits this picture the whole thing will wind up being cancelled watch, they better give RDJ a producer credit.

  • July 14, 2010, 11:41 p.m. CST


    by Barrymore

    Mark Ruffalo is B-O-R-I-N-G!!!! Get somebody with some personality!

  • July 14, 2010, 11:46 p.m. CST

    Last I checked, Banner didn't always look the same.

    by mortsleam

    Kirby's Banner , Buscema's Banner, Byrne's Banner (looks like no other Banner ever), whoever was drawing Peter David's arc... Every artist drew him a little different. Height, weight, hair type, size of glasses... Hell, didn't Byrne give him MS and put him in a wheelchair?<p>It's a shame that Marvel isn't following the gameplan and keeping the same actors to realistically set up their own movie universe. And it will come as a weird shock to casual moviegoers to see someone else (yet again) as Banner. But Ruffalo is a good choice. He's given nothing but interesting, realistic performances in everything I've seen. Sure, he hasn't played a brainy twerp with rage issues, but there's nothing in his resume to show that he can't.<p>Ideally, it should have been Norton all along, Ang Lee movie included. Ideally, Norton should have behaved himself. Shit, ideally, that Frank Oz movie with Brando, deNiro and Norton should have been better than it was. The whole situation is fucked, and they're trying to fix it as best they can. Under those circumstances, I welcome Ruffalo, and whatever he brings to the role. Let's just hope it turns out instead of rooting for it to fail.

  • July 14, 2010, 11:58 p.m. CST

    News just in Whedon to replace all the cast

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    With his friends and Whedonites. <p> Patton Oswalt as Captain America (CGI will make him look tall, good looking and muscular)<p> Nathan Fillion as Ant Man, Tony Stark, Nick Fury and Loki<p> Summer Glau as Thor (Loki has turned Thor into a girl)<p> Alexis Denisof as Bruce Banner <p> Nicholas Brendon as the Wasp (transvestite) <p> AICN scribe Herc as Thor's hammer.

  • July 15, 2010, 12:02 a.m. CST

    Did you all see?

    by DigitalBeachWar

    Santa Claus from Warhammer 40000AD is in the new Thor movie. MARVEL FUCKING SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS.

  • July 15, 2010, 12:03 a.m. CST

    is "that said" Harry's way of saying "but"?

    by BillboeFett

    So is "that said" Harry's version of "but"? Is "that said" a liberal woodstock hippie's attempt to sound sophisticated and learn-ed?

  • July 15, 2010, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Slummer Glua to replace everyone.

    by RPLocke

    Even Iron Man.

  • July 15, 2010, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Nathan Fillion to replace Downey

    by RPLocke

  • July 15, 2010, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Boo Hiss!

    by yeah i'm a jerk!

    seriously, this sucks. Bring back Norton! Come on Marvel, you have one of the greatest actors of our times wanting to come back and play this character, and yet you decide he's not good enough for you? I was so stoked for this movie, and now I just don't care. Have fun without me, fascists!!!!

  • July 15, 2010, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Brad Pitt would have been great.........

    by Evangelion217

    as THOR!!!! YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE!!!!!!!!!! :)

  • July 15, 2010, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Awesome, if you can't have Norton

    by ewokstew

    then Ruffalo's a solid replacement

  • July 15, 2010, 1:51 a.m. CST

    NO, GOD NO! I've liked Ruffalo in a lot of stuff...

    by Keblar

    Starting with "You can count on me." But my initial visceral reaction to him as Banner is as posted above: "NO, GOD NO!

  • July 15, 2010, 1:57 a.m. CST

    Brad Pitt even past 40 would've owned as Thor

    by The Founder

  • July 15, 2010, 2:08 a.m. CST

    I have a bad feeling about this

    by Excelciyour

    As a Marvel fan since the early 80’s I am thrilled these properties are making the big screen all these years later no doubt. However it’s these last two – Thor and Cap – that have me shaking my head. These two iconic characters are absolutely essential to the Avengers AND THAT IS THE ONLY REASON THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BACKSTORY MOVIES. Back story moves. IMO that’s all the Thor and Cap movies are being made to set up the Avengers, that's it. And the quality will suffer for it just as Iron Man 2 did.

  • July 15, 2010, 2:09 a.m. CST

    It seems none of us can just let it go. Norton is gone!

    by The Founder

    It's over and best to move on. Norton is gone get over it. I've said phuck Norton but truth in point I think he's a great actor and is probably a nice guy but like someone mentioned already he is a very smart guy that take his work as an actor serious, maybe too serious. The guy has a rep pure and simple off being difficult to work with, probably due in part to the tons of hackery and foolishness that is in Hollywood. Unfortunately as good an actor that Norton is he has no clout in Hollywood because he isn't a Will Smith. Smith could be the nastiest sob and worst actor to work with in Hollywood but because he can pull in the audience Hollywood would put up with his shit. Norton has nothing to back him up save for his craft but sadly it ain't enough.

  • July 15, 2010, 2:20 a.m. CST

    "Is that said" a liberal woodstock hippie's attempt...

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    "To sound sophisticated and learn-ed?"

  • July 15, 2010, 2:21 a.m. CST

    "Is 'that said a liberal woodstock hippie's attempt...

    by The Bicycle Sharer

  • July 15, 2010, 2:25 a.m. CST

    "Is 'that said' a liberal woodstock hippie's attempt..."

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    "To sound sophisticated and learn-ed?" No, probably not. I say it pretty often, along with "that having been said," and I am pretty much the furthest thing that you'll ever find from a "liberal woodstock hippie." Well, certainly it's not in me. Maybe it is in Harry, but I kinda doubt it. Sometimes we just pick things up. Ever paid attention to how much the word "clearly" gets used when it could be omitted or "obviously" or "plainly" could be used instead? How 'bout "amazing?" Or "no worries?" Or "all set?"

  • July 15, 2010, 2:58 a.m. CST

    Yep, I could see that. He's a fine actor.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • July 15, 2010, 3:22 a.m. CST

    Has anyone on here...

    by Master Bruce

    suggested Adrien Brody? I mean, it SUCKS that Marvel got rid of Norton 'cuz he did a much better job of channeling Bixby than Bana did, but if he's out, then why not Brody? He's the right nerdy-type & he just played a scientist in SPLICE.

  • July 15, 2010, 3:26 a.m. CST


    by my liege

    It's possible that they may have this guy in the Avengers movie, and then either do a Hulk movie or stick him in Iron-Man 3 or something so they can then sweep Norton's Hulk under the carpet and conveniently 'forget' to include it when they release the box set.

  • July 15, 2010, 4:14 a.m. CST

    would Rather see Bana really

    by Genre_Baby

    but Ed and Robert, probably not going to see this theatrically now.

  • July 15, 2010, 4:37 a.m. CST


    by 11dayempire

    ...should be played by Rudy Reyes of Generation Kill.

  • July 15, 2010, 5:20 a.m. CST

    Mark Ruffalo?

    by Robert_G_Durrant

    It just goes to show you can't be too careful

  • July 15, 2010, 5:22 a.m. CST

    I am noitcing again...

    by emeraldboy

    that comic book movies always seem to bring out the armchair casting agents.....

  • July 15, 2010, 5:24 a.m. CST

    norton is not repeat, repeat not..

    by emeraldboy

    a team player. that is why he is being replaced.

  • July 15, 2010, 5:44 a.m. CST

    "Mark Ruffalo = the poor man's..."

    by elsewhere

    equivalent of Benjamin Bratt" LOL<p>When was the last fucking time Benjamin Bratt was relevant? Miss Congeniality?<p>Yeah you're a fucking idiot. Bratt has NOTHING on Ruffalo.

  • July 15, 2010, 6:20 a.m. CST

    You're right, elsewhere

    by David_Denmans_Beard

    Bratt eclipses him in talent entirely. Glad you see the light.

  • July 15, 2010, 6:46 a.m. CST

    Superhero teams are so gay

    by 1st and only

    its just not 1960-1980 anymore,so gay....oh and Ruffalo is a terrible choice for Banner (so, he'l get the part then)

  • July 15, 2010, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Mark Ruffalo is a chameleon

    by AsimovLives

    This guy never looks alike twice in two different movies. This guy is a true chameleon, a shape-shifter. Damn talented too. Good casting choice, absolutly no complains from me.

  • July 15, 2010, 7:15 a.m. CST

    Who the hell is Lenny8?

    by mortsleam

    Don't think I've ever actually seen that name in these talkbacks before. Wierd. Possibly didn't get my point, which is that different creative teams have completely different takes on these characters. Banner's look is not consistent from artist to artist. That's never hindered the comic book audience from relating to the character. It appears these movies are doing the same thing. Don't think I ever suggested that the movies should be pen & ink. That would be absurd, defy the purpose of a live action version, and anyone who got that out of my post has severe reading comprehension issues, is putting their own thoughts into it, or is just trolling for a flame war. I was saying more that this will be the third iteration of Bruce Banner in the movies (Fourth live action including Bill Bixby). Each version is somewhat similar to *some* version of the comic, some take on Banner (tho I'm really not impressed by Bana at all). If you can't make room for another take, by a talented actor, in a big budget action sci-fi fantasy movie based on a medium where visuals, style, and characterization shift with every new creative team, just about every three years or so (which just so happens to be the approximate time between the release of these movies) then the problem lies with you. Is that clear enough for everybody?

  • July 15, 2010, 7:27 a.m. CST

    for all actors....

    by emeraldboy

    working on effects films are difficult. actors act. but it takes a huge creative leap for them to work with nothing. norton is a writer, actor and producer. before becoming bruce banner he possibly never had any experience working on an effects film. it may well be that norton doesnt want to to do it again. anytime soon. marvel didnt want him back after all the creative control issues that were stirred up.

  • July 15, 2010, 7:40 a.m. CST


    by FleshMachine

    he'll be fine.

  • July 15, 2010, 7:41 a.m. CST


    by FleshMachine

    he'll be fine.

  • July 15, 2010, 7:41 a.m. CST


    by Napolean Solo

    Yo Adrian. They didn't do it Adrian. It should have been you!!!!

  • July 15, 2010, 7:51 a.m. CST

    Michael Richards and Mel Gibson

    by ricarleite2


  • July 15, 2010, 8:25 a.m. CST


    by photoboy

    I still want Norton in the role.<br><br> It's odd how quickly Marvel will dump a high profile actor when they think they can get away with hiring someone cheaper. It's not like the good old days of classic comics where you could dump the writer and kids wouldn't really notice.

  • July 15, 2010, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Beaks should play Banner

    by spidercoz

    Harry should be Hulk

  • July 15, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Marvel starts to slide as DC starts to rise...

    by codecrackx15

    Green lanterns suit is looking good...Compared to that which is Thor... http://codecrackx15.wordpress. com/2010/07/15/new-power-range rs-nope-its-thor/

  • July 15, 2010, 9:44 a.m. CST

    If you're looking to replace Norton, then I say...GREAT CHOICE.

    by JDanielP

    I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the greatness that AVENGERS can be.

  • July 15, 2010, 9:57 a.m. CST

    I thought it was J.J. Abrams

    by Styrophoamicus

    And then I saw 'Mark Ruffalo'

  • July 15, 2010, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Love Mark Ruffalo as an actor but hate this casting

    by ChiTownsBest

    He's just all wrong for Banner. He doesn't have the geeky type of presence that Banner should have. I think I agree with others who have mentioned Adrian Brody. He's got the right mix of geek and inner rage needed. Ruffalo just doesn't have that and he comes off as a genuinely nice guy. This casting is way off. Now I'm starting to think that that The Avengers is gonna be a very corny movie. codecrackx15 mentioned that DC was starting to rise and Marvel is sliding and I'm starting to agree with that. They started off excellent with Iron Man. The Incredible Hulk was good but not great and Iron Man 2 was not very good.With Chris Nolan making the Batman movies and now helping with Superman the quality will be better then Marvels. Marvel only seems to be going for disposable junk food movies. Here's hoping Captain America and/or Thor prove me wrong. The problem is that after seeing Thor's horrible costume I have huge doubts on that one already.

  • July 15, 2010, 10:19 a.m. CST


    by Stabby

    More than any other actor working today he has the nerdy thing going for him in spades. Also, anyone that has seen his work in The Office or The Hangover knows that he can also channel that frightening inner rage needed for the part.

  • July 15, 2010, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Oh, and give Banner a Fro

    by Stabby

  • July 15, 2010, 10:43 a.m. CST

    I'm bored of Adrien Brody

    by Stabby

    ED HELMS!!!

  • July 15, 2010, 10:58 a.m. CST


    by Stabby

    I'm only half joking. I don't think Ed Helms is any worse a choice than some of the other actors suggested, except for Zack Galifanapogus Islands. The Hulk was my favorite comic growing up and at this point I am just jaded as to Hollywood's treatment of the character. I'm in the camp that thinks that they should just leave Banner out and only use Hulk.

  • July 15, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Gl pic is up

    by yourSTEPDADDY

  • July 15, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Gl pic is up

    by yourSTEPDADDY

  • July 15, 2010, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Ruffalo would make a damn good Bruce Banner.

    by Knuckleduster

    You Can Count On Me is his best performance by far. Such a great little film. Didn't even know about Margaret. Thanks for the good news, Herc.

  • July 15, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST


    by XoanonTORN

    You are 100% correct, Norton, God love him, is a control freak. He wants in on the script, the editing, direction and promotion. If he does not like what he sees he refuses to promote. He should seriously get into directing if he wants that type of control. I LOVE him as an actor..but he is not a team player.

  • July 15, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Ruffallo does look like Jar Jar Abrams in that photo, indeed! I also thought the same thing.

  • July 15, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST

    In Avengers he should be fully in control of Hulk

    by Stabby

    They can make a Hulk prequel later that explains how Banner came to control the Hulk. I must admit I am ignorant when it comes to The Avengers. Why did Nick Fury recruit the Hulk anyway when he cannot be controlled. Wouldn't he be a detriment to every mission. I know he did fight Thor a lot. Seems stupid to me for Hulk to be an Avenger until Banner gained control.

  • July 15, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST

    this is good news

    by mr. smith

    by far the best choice yet made casting hulk.

  • July 15, 2010, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Uh oh...

    by kenobi ghost

    Thor is going to tank. You all know this, right? Same goes for Captain America. Too bad Marvel didn't invest their energies into making a good Iron Man sequel. I'd rather they produced a good Iron Man 3 than put out Thor, Cap, and Avengers combined.

  • July 15, 2010, 12:02 p.m. CST


    by Weapon M

    I'm not a big fan of this. I'd rather see someone more skimpy. Someone like Edwa-- oops! Damn!!! Thanks Marvel you really MADE MINE!!!! Why dont you just call a mulligan and just go with it. And Norton fuck your money, just sign the fucking contract! You can still buy a lot with $2!

  • July 15, 2010, 12:02 p.m. CST

    The guy from "13 Going on 30"? Um, no...

    by The Gipper

    Zachery Levi as Superman makes more sense than this guy as Bruce Banner. Ed Norton was great and captured much of what Bill Bixby brought to the role. Personally, I prefer the David Tennant as Banner rumor.

  • July 15, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    in reference to Hulk as villain posts...

    by kname2

    If Hulk is portyaed as the bad guy as in The Ultimates line it's no big deal. Hulk was the "villain" in Avengers #1 way back in 1963. Loki tricked Hulk into destroying a train track to lure Thor into a fight with Hulk. Loki's plan failed when the other heroes responded to the Hulks rampage and learned that Loki was behind the whole mess. The Avengers are then formed as a result. So, it's no big deal if they follow either the traditional Marvel Universe or The Ultimates using Hulk as the bad guy.

  • July 15, 2010, 1:12 p.m. CST

    It does make for a lot of drama having Hulk in Avengers

    by Stabby

    and also much opportunity for comic relief. If as kname says, Hulk was first a bad guy in Avengers #1 then the movies have already went in a different direction having Stark visit Banner at the end of Incredible Hulk. Obviously, Stark knows the deal with Banner/Hulk.

  • July 15, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Widow to get more than one action scene?

    by leo54304

    And I don't care how much they pull her zipper down. She doesn't belong in the movie. Ms Marvel would be nice is well suited for the big screen. Basically shes just a female superman w/o the cape so just use the same tricks they do in the supes movie.

  • July 15, 2010, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Agree, Banner would be a lot of fun with Stark

    by leo54304

    Seeing Banner being a rival for Stark in smarts, achievements, academics and attitude would bring some draman. And an intelligent hulk "Mr Fix it" persona would do the same with Thor.

  • July 15, 2010, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Give up people on another Hulk film

    by The Founder

    Some of you are really grasping at straws. There isn't going to be another Hulk film unless it many years away. Two films have been and both underperformed. I think in the second outing they had the shot and failed. I felt the IH was good but it just didn't connect with the mainstream enough. No studio is going to sink another 150 mil plus into another standalone Hulk film.

  • July 15, 2010, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Who exactly is on the team? The Vision or Wonder Man could work

    by The Founder

    I saw War Machine somewhere being listed. Is this true? Nor sure if they need two IMs on the team. Black Widow is cool but they need another female character. It' should be Wasp. Also Wonder Man and Vision would be cool.

  • July 15, 2010, 1:49 p.m. CST

    does it even matter

    by redkamel

    Avengers is going to be thrown into disarray after Captain America and Thor tank. I doubt they will do better than IH.<P> Copley or Norton as Banner Brad Pitt as Thor RDJ as Stark Matt Damon as Captain America? <p> Add a bone, and baby, you got yourself a soup!

  • July 15, 2010, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Michael Cera for Jan of the Wonder Twins maybe

    by Stabby

  • July 15, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST

    RE:Michael Cera for Jan

    by Stalkeye

    "Form of a Douche Nozzle..."

  • July 15, 2010, 3:17 p.m. CST


    by Stalkeye

    Thank you, you do the same. ;0P

  • July 15, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST

    SPF, Gay for Michael Cera a little?

    by Stabby

    It's ok. There's nothing wrong with that. Either that or your actually... Duhn... Duhn... Duhn... (Wait for it!) ...actually Michael Cera himself posting here. Which would be sad.

  • July 15, 2010, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Sorry, Darko

    by Stabby

    Go to the Thor Talkback and you will see ScottPilgrimLover is throwing that slur around willy nilly. See, I said "willy nilly." I'm not afraid of my feminine side.

  • July 15, 2010, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Ok... so Sharlto Copley for Hulk

    by Seph_J

    Are we all agreed?

  • July 15, 2010, 7:48 p.m. CST

    Whedon's AVENGERS

    by strosmer

    Still makes me shudder.

  • July 15, 2010, 8:43 p.m. CST


    by TakingScorpiosCalls

  • July 15, 2010, 9:49 p.m. CST

    80s avengers movie line up

    by leo54304

    Back in the 80s I remember an article in wizard magazine where they can up with the cast for an avengers movie. Heres who I remember: Timothy Dalton as Tony Stark due to his role in the rocketeer: Fabio as Thor; Howie Long as CA; Judd Nelson as Hawkeye: Peter Weller as Vision (due to his role as robocop). Can't remember who they had for the wasp or scarlet witch. For villains it was Dolph Lungren as Baron Zemo, Pamela Anderson as the enchantress, the russian fighter from the street fighter movie. They also had a role for the radioactive man, again don't know who. The list was made from the wizard staff. Thought it'd fun to share it you guys. Anyone else remember this article?

  • July 15, 2010, 10:28 p.m. CST

    dude tries way too hard when he's acting

    by Waka_Flocka

    shit's cringing...he was alright in shutter island and collateral though. the last castle though bwahahahahhahaha

  • July 16, 2010, 2:47 a.m. CST


    by Stalkeye

    Nah, you're the bitch. well atleast Michael's bitch, in the menatime go bow to his bellend.

  • July 16, 2010, 2:50 a.m. CST

    Sweet merciful god

    by Drif

    Please no...

  • July 16, 2010, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Ruffalo has ridges!!!!

    by Tikidonkeypunch

    Tony stark to be played by gay Patterson vampire fag.

  • July 16, 2010, 9:01 a.m. CST


    by Darth Busey

    I guess I am in the minority in that I rather enjoyed The Incredible Hulk. I thought Norton and Bill Hurt were great in it. Norton would've been fantastic in this ensemble. I don't care how much of a dick he is on set...let him have input on the fucking script, and let him go to work.

  • July 20, 2010, 2:36 a.m. CST

    Haahahahahah Avengers...

    by SunTzu77

    is going to be such a crappy film... it's going to be unbelievably crappy... I can't wait to miss it.