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Nikki Finke at Deadline says Mark Ruffalo (“Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind,” “The Brothers Bloom,” “Zodiac,” “Shutter Island”) is negotiating with Marvel to follow Bill Bixby, Eric Bana and Edward Norton in the exploding shoes of Dr. Bruce Banner.
I was just watching Ruffalo in “You Can Count On Me,” an A-plus film IFC happened to be running again last night. Man, this guy is great. I’m dying to see him in “Margaret,” his 10-years-later reteam with “Count On Me” writer-director Kenneth Lonergan.
To anticipate the question, Ruffalo’s not previously been associated with “Avengers” writer-director Joss Whedon.
The Hollywood Reporter's Heat Vision blog says Whedon and Ruffalo are expected to meet about the role in the next few days.
Find all of Deadline Hollywood’s exclusive on the matter here.
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Jul 14, 2010 1:13:12 PM CDT
Just for 86'ing Norton,I hope THOR,CAPTAIN AMERICA and AVENGERS
by idrinkyourmilkshake
all tank financially! Sides, we all know these 3 films are merely exsisting to wet our appetites for the Truly great film: BATMAN 3
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sounds like it could work.
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As a person who started out finding him way too nebbish I have grown to love Mark Ruffalo. He is a great actor. And Bruce Banner is right in his wheelhouse.
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I'm happy with this.
As much as I loved Norton's take on Banner, Mark Ruffalo is one of my favorite actors, and I'd love to see him get this.
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Could be good, would still prefer Norton thou, he looks like a Bana / Norton hybrid
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Seriously, Zach *IS* Banner.
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If you cut off the pic just below Ruffalo's nose, he looks scarily like Eric Bana!
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why hasn't ruffalo done a stoner film?Picking him is utter rubbish casting
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He is great in everything I've seen him in. His performance in "ZODIAC" was tops. Perfectly underplayed.
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Nothing against, Ruffalo at all, but I thought the whole point in IH was to prep a new cast (well, and pretend Ang Lee's Hulk never happened) for the Avengers? Not happy about another recast. How is that supposed to make Avengers feel like part of the IH universe now? This is sad news. Last I read, Norton was still willing to do Avengers. I guess that changed? =(
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What? Was it wrong to ask if Whedon was official on the project or not?
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Ruffalo is a terrific actor and someone who could pull off being Banner.
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That's what Im talking about.I know he was sort of a stoner in ETERNAL SUNSHINE, but really, what I meant is...he sucks ass.My comic characters are sacred ground.Don't cast some loser actor!
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They'd all kiss and make up and offer it to Norton. The free publicity would be AMAZING.
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Jul 14, 2010 1:26:05 PM CDT
Ruffalo’s not previously been associated with “Avengers” writer-
by slappy magoo
...that we know of...
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I'm going to put down money that someone else is replaced from the cast by the tine shooting starts..
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So he can keep doing other smaller movies he actually cares about.
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He's done some real good work, both in indie flicks, dramas, and a couple romantic comedies, so versatility ain't an issue. I'd be down with it.
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Is She-Hulk in this?
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Thor?? That will probably be the first to tank, it just looks...dodgy
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hahahaha, good actor but damn if it ain't a bothersome things win the do the actor switch-a-roo. Like when Rhodie all a sudden gotta darker complexion in IM2.
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end spoiler!
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I know it's a cliche but it's also true. Ah well, Shadow of the Bat and The Man of Steel will wipe the floor with this anyway.
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I never really warmed up to him as an actor, but I understand that Banner will not have too much screen time anyway, so why not?
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Superman news?
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Jul 14, 2010 1:30:21 PM CDT
CAN'T WAIT for that lame-ass moment in Avengers when Iron-man or
by idrinkyourmilkshake
look over at Bruce Banner and say the mandatory "have you gained weight?" and Ruffalo(banner), responds "must be the new glasses", and then looks dead center at the audience.(shudder)
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I really have little concern for who plays Banner anyway. It's basically a cameo.
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I can see him playing the Banner, but I've never seen him play a violent character to see him as Hulk.
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Sounds like a brand of chips "Ruffle'o's"! bbq!
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That was all the proof I needed that he could do this.
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Marvel took a step backwards on this one. Ruffalo doesnt look the part of a scientist and isnt a good enough actor to show the inner troubles that Bill Bixby and Norton were able to capture.
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Jul 14, 2010 1:33:48 PM CDT
MARVEL FORMULA:any actor + reading glasses =bruce banner
by idrinkyourmilkshake
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cool. shadow of the bat could work both ways. ruffalo as banner. could work if they make him look like the tv show banner. the 2nd film had some of the tv show in it. and I liked the odes to bixby. i was trying think about that tv cartoon. super 8 is ultimate force.
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prime! wait and see.
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He's a great actor in general, but he'd be great as Bruce Banner in particular.
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bring back Norton or else.
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But I fucking hate Mark Ruffalo
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since he's not Captain America. But maybe he's holding out for Superman...
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I vote for Eric Banna to play Tony Stark in Avengers, cause there is no way Robert will be caught dead in this train wreck. THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!
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i was like "boo" to them dissing norton... but i love ruffalo. i gotta say, good for him if he gets it. it's about time he moves up to the "A-List". he has the skills to pay the bills, so maybe avengers won't piss me off so much now.
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Just forget him already if you can't get Norton
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I always thought Banner was supposed to look slight of frame, nerdy, and weak a complete contrast to his green alter ego. Steve Buscemi, Edward Norton,type build. It probably doesn't matter who they pick, they'll end up replacing the actor if an Avengers sequel gets made. Word of advice to Mark Ruffalo, don't treat the material with the upmost respect and get too involved with the project. Just learn the lines they give you, don't question them under any circumstances, hit your marks and you'll be fine. Do not think you can bring something refreshing to the movie and whatever you do, don't piss off Kevin Feige, apparently he likes exercising the power of his big balls around actors.
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Over Joaquin Phoenix, that's for sure! But still, bring back Ed Norton.
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Sam Worthington's charisma and on screen presence ... this guy can't act for shit
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Seriously, fuck that guy who fired Ed Norton.
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I mean, guys! Marvel, the fans want NORTON, not RUFFALO, NORTON! Don't you fucking know how to read when it comes to fans' comments?! Sure, Mark Ruffalo is a really great actor but we want NORTON! No more, no less!
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was cast. Eric Banna would tower over stark- so would norton. This guy is shorter than Reese Witherspoon so we're good. Hollywood likes actors small to save money on sets. They can make everything 3/4 scale
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If it's true then its superb casting.
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He worked so hard on HULK. Can we have no crappy CGI HULK this time?
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Bring back NORTON Marvel!
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I just don't see what you all are seeing in this guy. He seems to be able to possess a fairly large in stature physique, while coming off as a big pussy. Not a good combo. Bana at least had an edge there that made Banner somewhat tough without the Hulk. Norton had what I would think is the perfect combo. I don't quite know how to word it, I just don't like this guy for this role.
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Seriously, aside from SPIDER-MAN 2 (#1),Blade(#2)and Iron-man 1(#3), the INCREDIBLE HULK was the only GOOD marvel film.And now, re-cast? Feige, you are a worthless cocksucker!
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to play the green skinned goliath, Lou Ferringo still in contract to voice 2/3rds of Hulk grunts for new Avengers movie.
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Jul 14, 2010 1:52:31 PM CDT
love ruffalo. hate kevin feige's treatment of norton.
by helveticaconspiracy
the whole movie is tainted now. lost all interest.
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actually looks like banner and gives him a chance to redeem himself for venom.
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...I would have preferred Billy Crudup. But if they're saving money and grabbing people Joss Whedon knows personally (like Nathon Fillion rumoured as Hank Pym) then it will probably be Sean Maher (Dr Simon Tam - Firefly / Serenity) or Dr Horrible himself - Neil Patrick Harris.
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Bat3 doesn't have a name yet. That "Shadow of the Bat" thing comes from the comic book of the same name and is pure fanboy hype. Officially, "Man of Steel" isn't the title of the next Superman either - although I've always thought that was the coolest of the rumoured titles.
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Way better than Joaquin Phoenix, not as cool as Steve Buscemi.
I hope they make a multi picture deal, so there's no more recasting nonsense.
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Ruffallo is solid, great choice Marvel.
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This could actually work. Nice bit of casting if it comes to be.
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ruff's okay though.
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Fuck you Edward. Your hulk sucked.
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...there's never enough hulk in them.
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how much money could Marvel be saving?
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I think this might be better than Norton.
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...nothing personal Mark Ruffalo,
but no. Ruffalo gave away Shutter Island's main plot twist by the the 3rd scene! In fairness, he was good in the Brother's Bloom...but no. Follow through with what you've established MARVEL...at
least consult with your other lead actors on this? Whedon doesn't seem to have an issue with Ed? This "ego/difficult to work
with BS" is a two way street, and clearly the stink is on you now.
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Jul 14, 2010 2:02:39 PM CDT
This just in - Ruffalo to be replaced in Incredible Hulk 2
by bettercallsaul
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You've already got probably like, 9 heroes & villains that need screen time in the Avengers movie. Just bring out the CGI Hulk for the first or last action piece. One scene to place him in the Avengers universe, another to bring him out to smash some shit. Unless, of course, they're worried about what to do for a trilogy of Avengers movies, which is likely the case. Gotta have a Banner in there somewhere. Ugh, Hollywood.
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He's got my vote.
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No,I'm not satisfied with this at all. Pick someone else please.
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I've marvelled at Ruffalo's talent ever since I saw YOU CAN COUNT ON ME back in 2000.
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I never cared for Norton..he wasn't bad or good...he was just there, he brought nothing to the role IMO. I didn't buy him as banner.. I think Ruffalo could pull it off.
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I never cared for Norton..he wasn't bad or good...he was just there, he brought nothing to the role IMO. I didn't buy him as banner.. I think Ruffalo could pull it off.
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For my money, Ruffalo knocks the socks off either Bana or Norton in the role. Perfect choice.
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Good actor. Bad casting.
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Bullet dodged.
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I would watch Ruffalo do anything.
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It sure would save a lot of screen-test and audition time! Or, just cast Ryan Reynolds. He's in every other comic book movie right now.
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But Feck Off! He's blonde!
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90 days. And still Hollywood fails to cast hulk as good as my original Billy Crudup casting for the first movie. Crudup looks like a scientist. He looks like hulk in the face so it makes sense that he would scale up and turn green.
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Or Shia LeBeouf.
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Get over it, seriously. Every superhero will eventually be recast. They can't make movies with the same actors forever. People age, they lose interest, they are a bitch to work with coughNORTONcough. RDJ will not be Tony Stark forever. It's a not a big deal (although I love Downey as Stark.) Do you all bitch and cry every time the artist changes and so does the look of a character in a comic series FFS??
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Jul 14, 2010 2:18:21 PM CDT
Ruffalo always seems like he just got beaned by something.
by snake foreskin
Genetic Scientist? Yeah, and Denise Richards was great as Christmas Jones.
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So they replaced one immensley talented actor who never had the career equal his promise as an actor with another. Ruffalo may not be the egomanical control freak Norton is, but the guy has never lived up to his promise in terms of a career. Both Norton and Ruffalo should be major stars, but for different reasons neither get choice rolls in bigger movies.
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It's good casting if it works out.
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Mark Ruffalo was superb as the tragic underdog detective in COLLATERAL and that worked for me 100%. No Ed Norton? Dick move, but fine. Marvel Studios show the fans you mean business by signing Mark Ruffalo to a 2-picture deal at the minimum!
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Marky Mark Walberg as The Hulk! Just dip him in green paint and have at it!
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OK, now, for once we get some good casting news from the new and improved Disney Marvel on the cheap. This choice is inspired and commendable, coming from the indie world, no less. Hmmmm...
Samuel Jackson
Robert Downey Jr
Don Cheadle
Chris Hemsworth
Mark Ruffalo
Chris Evans
Scarlett Johansson
Fuck it, that casting does sound pretty cool.
ASSEMBLE!
T.'.
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Ruffalo is great, but the whole Norton thing is really leaving a bad taste in my mouth.
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I so want to be mad about this but I really like Mark Ruffalo. I'm still bitter about them cutting Norton loose but Mark Ruffalo could really pull this off.
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Because the Hulk is the focal point of the Avengers movie. The main plot is that all these heroes unite to take down a rampaging Hulk. At some point the Hulk will be subdued and will revert back to Banner. This will lead to the reveal of the true villian of the film.
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And I like the choice for him to play Banner in The Avengers but I might have some reservations in his ability to play the lead if they decide to make another Hulk movie. He has the sort of presence that works wonderfully in an ensemble or in a supporting role but he may not have the star power to pull everyone (and a larger than life superhero story) along as the lead.
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Out of left field but WOW. Ruffalo is a PERFECT bruce banner. Marvel is on a roll.
And for anyone who gripes about continuity with norton -- you do realize that norton was already a replacement for bana, right? Ruffalo is a much better actor than norton, has an honesty to him that suits banner, and will play nice with the cast and crew. Expect epicness with the Avengers.
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Jul 14, 2010 2:34:12 PM CDT
Tom Cruise is The Incredible Hulk. Robert Downey Jr. is Ironman
by ultratron
Avengers Assemble. We need a gigantic motherfucking superstar to be hulk. Someone as huge as cruise used to be. But cruise can do mighty-mite, napoleonic rage pretty good and I'd buy him as Scientology guy. I mean a scientist.
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Ruffalo is a good choice; Phoenix is another good choice with they do cast him; Both would be a great Banner.
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You completelky miss the point of the whole Avengers saga that Marvel has been setting up and carefully laying down the pieces for over the last few years. The whole reason for having Sammeul L. Jackson as Nick Fury pop up in all these films, and having other SHEILD characters around, is so they would all converge their seperate storylines into one giant awesome Avengers film that would hearald a new era of comic-book movie continuity. From 2007 until now, we have been told that Marvel's ultimate goal was to keep the same actors in the same roles for multiple films, and that all the actors would converged as a team in the Avengers. Yes, sometimes things don't go according to plan, and if say Robert Downey Jr got arrested or Chris Evans died before the start of filming, then Marvel would have no choice but to recast. That is NOT what has happened with Norton, who from all accounts was extremely willing and eager to reprise his role and work with Joss Whedon. The problem seems to come from the Marvel end, who should absolutley no better then to treat their viewers in this way. They have been too careful up until this point to not let petty things like this derail their plans, and it just shows how they still don't have their stuff completely together. Yes, in the future, they will absolutely reboot these characters and storylines and make all new movies, like the are doing now for some strange reason wityh Spiderman (maybe they hope to mix the new Spidey into the Avengers Marvel Universe as well). For the next few years, however, we have been promised these characters with the actors currently playing them as THE ONLY versions they will focus on, at least as far as the Avengers is concerned.
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I like it - a lot. He's a classy actor, always interesting to watch. Norton will be missed but, Ruffalo will knock it out of the park
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In case you guys haven't heard it is rumoured that Joaquin Phoenix is in negotiations as well. It doesn't matter who takes over the Hulk role. It's gonna suck anyway.
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Better hit Asi with the tranq dart before he breaks something. I like this casting choice, but it's not really an improvement over Norton. They must have really hated Norton to do him like that. Too bad, it sounds like he got a bad rap for wanting to make IH a better movie. Seems like Feige has trained with Avi Arad in the art of interfereing with and screwing up comic book movie adaptations. -
but I am ok with this. My only hope is that the Avengers movie has TONS of action and a world shattering supervillan and not just some bullshit Hulk chase.
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I like this. I love the dweeb look from Eternal Sunshine
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I like this. I love the dweeb look from Eternal Sunshine
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Bring Norton Back
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That dude is BATSHIT crazy and I love when he gets quiet and angry. I can see that being Banner. Really Banner should be a bit guy with anger issues and tries really hard to keep it under control.
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and after the townspeople hear Barney sing, they begin chanting, "Barney forever, wiggum never!"
Anyone remember that scene from The Simpsons episode, "Homer's Barbershop Quartet?" That's what this talkback reminds me of. Everyone kicking up a fuss that Norton wasn't asked back, and once they name-drop Mark Ruffalo, suddenly, all is okay again and Edward Norton becomes, Edward Who? -
I hate this recasting shit.
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but I do agree with some of you that Joaquin Phoenix is unusually perfect for the role.
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Norton ftw
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I like it. Mark is an amazing actor, always a step to short of making it big. Would i rather have Norton as Hulk for continuity? Yes i Would, but The could have gone a lot worse than with Ruffalo, i really like the casting...
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Jul 14, 2010 2:53:22 PM CDT
Mark Ruffalo Is A Pedestrian Actor (I Say Matt Damon!!!)
by media messiah
Matt Damon would make a truly great Bruce Banner.
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Sad.
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the three actors have, one. died. two. been broken by the experience of with the director. three. have been asked not to come back.
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I still would've preferred Norton though, for visual continuity.
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ahahahahaha haha.someday you will wake up nerds,someday..
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I like Mark. He is handsome and talented.
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I understand some people will hate this. But I'm on board. I really, really like the guy. he was fucking fantastic in both Zodiac and Shutter Island.
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I thought Marvel was saying they wanted to cast an unknown actor, for the Banner/Hulk role. Ruffalo is hardly an unknown.
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little girl, for someone who spouts off about continuity, you sure are way off with spider-man, the movie rights are not owned by marvel, moron, and for sony to continue holding them they have to make more movies, it was their decision to reboot. SpawnofAchilles is right, banner is going to be a small role and i love how everyone has jumped on the norton band wagon, if he was on this and say decide to walk becaus he wasn't happy with no one letting him rewrite anything what would have happened then...bitchy little girls siding with bitchy little girls
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Now if they can just change the way Thor is looking.
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..........an inspired choice. Much better than Joaquin Phoenix. It's a shame I'll skip this film anyway b/c of the Norton fiasco (among other shitty Marvel moves). But if he gets the role that's a step in the right direction. In fact I like Mark so much that if the roles were reversed and he was in IM and got shafted and now we were getting Norton....I'd be pissed just the same.
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...if he was in IH and got shafted and now we were getting Norton....I'd be pissed just the same. And to add to that, I'd hate to get invested in another solid actor like this only to have Mark recast for yet another Hulk reboot or Avengers 2 down the line.
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It creates an air of "Batman Forever/Batman and Robin" about the Avengers project. Line up enough single appearance Bruce Banners and pretty soon it starts looking like Val Kilmer or George Clooney might take a shot at playing the part. What's Joel Schumacher doing these days? If we give it a little time we could maybe squeeze another villain in. Hold off filming until Arnold finishes his governor gig and he could play some bad guy. He was terrific as Mr. Freeze right? They need to bring Norton back as Banner. If they don't then they might as well just replace RDJ with Benjamin Bratt and save some more money.
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He plays Bill Compton on True Blood. I think he'd be really good. And I always imagine Banner being quite thin, which Moyer definitely is. Ruffalo seems to be getting a little round lately. If he can lose that, I could accept him in the role.
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i don't get why i've read the comment: "DC Needs to follow Marvel's example." I don't get it. a) Everything but Xmen is b-list comments as far as the non-comic book fans, and b) even the xmen movies were boring as fuck and have zero replay value... c) captain american and thor converted 3d? Awful. the country is aware of Flash, Superman and Batman and Green Lantern is going to blow everyone's minds because green lantern has been the best comic book for like forever now... The average joe has no idea what the Avengers is. DC has the icons.
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Mark Ruffalo is not a leading man, and he will not be able to build a blockbuster film franchise. Matt Damon, on the other hand, is just a great, and weighty actor, someone who has proven himself to be a franchise star. He brings a sense of power to his roles, a sense of purpose, and great pathos--a sense of soul that his audiences relate to. His characters, as he portrays them, reflect all the rich peaks and valleys of the human experience. Really, he is the greatest working actor of his generation, bar-none. He would make the best choice for the Hulk if Marvel intends to relaunch the character into his own film franchise, using The Avengers, as they are, as a platform to do so.
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Very well articulated
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Mark Ruffalo replaced by quivering, quasi-sentient blob of spineless, musousoid, bottomless need who still looks good under the lights. Just the way Hollywood likes it.
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Jul 14, 2010 3:24:59 PM CDT
Don Cheadle recast as Rulk, Terrence Howard recast as HulkDog
by donkingkong
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He's done too many rom-coms to be taken seriously, methinks.
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So let's say that Marvel decided to work with Ed Norton. Sure, he's willing to work on the movie and is excited about it, but while on the set he's difficult to work with. He wants to make changes to the script. Him and the director are bumping heads and not getting along. Then, if Norton doesn't like the finished product like he did with The Incredible Hulk, will he refuse to promote the movie? Will he refuse to go to the comic conventions and the premier? I would have liked if Ed Norton was in the movie, but at the end of the day this is still a business and even if Marvel wants to please the fans they have to do what's right for them.
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…would be a good Banner. But still, fuck Marvel for shafting Norton like this. Seriously wondering whether to bother with any more Marvel films, since they've consistently lowballed the talents' salaries and then trashed them in public when they don't suck it up (cf: Norton and Howard).
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Maybe if Ruffalo loses about thirty or forty pounds, to look haggard and tormented and like a man on the run...
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i can't take this relationship anymore Marvel. i haven't even gotten over Ed yet. you pricks.
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This is really great casting, if it happens. He's a much better fit for the part than Bana or Norton were. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just being spiteful.
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wow it is rare people who understand the real world come on here and make sense and live outside of a pathetic fanboy wet dream, you are so right, edward norton (who i love as an actor) could have fucked it up big time, too much money at stake if they felt he wasn't a team player
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Give it up already. He was good, but when you have a rep for being difficult to work with, you aren't really going to fit in with an ensemble cast.
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he doesn't seem right for Bruce Banner. My vote is for Steve Buscemi
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Did I really say that?
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Ruffalo is recognizable, but not so much that it will be distracting (like Norton was). Norton was far from the biggest problem with Incredible Hulk, but he was a problem.
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Was never big on this guy, not even in SHUTTER ISLAND.
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Why Not? I'm not going to pay to watch this $hit I'll download the movie via torrent - as is legal here in Canada
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to do some of the shit I'm seeing here. Matt Damon...jesus fucking christ...
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Well said and I concur, but, unfortunately, you're fighting a battle in a war that's over. Let's just all agree to hate Feige and move on. The Norton thing was a bad call and Feige's press release was extremely unprofessional (especially when one considers Norton's Facebook response to being dropped).All that having been said, I don't hate the Ruffalo casting.
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...I stand corrected. Mark is not a bad choice at all. I don't like all the re-tooling, but at least they found a way to keep the freakin' character in the story, and giving a quality actor the part. He was great in "Collateral."
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But I think it's good someone did. Good for him. I can buy him as Banner. But unless they find some other body builder, paint him green, and WETA-ize his height a la Gandalf, then I still can't give too much of a shit about yet another CGI Hulk. Shit, Ferrigno's still in okay shape, right? Just get him a new wig.
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Jul 14, 2010 3:41:44 PM CDT
Godhatesusall - God hates only you, you worthless dumbass
by prestigeworldwide
Seriously, godhatesusall, what is your trip? You are a true POS and a need to take your head out of your a$$. The main reason Sony is rebooting Spiderman is because they don't want to pay all the prinicpals from the last three movies $30 million each, which is what Raimi, Maguire, and maybe even Dunst would be expecting to come back for a 4th film in a multi-billion dollar franchise. Couple that with the critcal drubbing the thrid film recieved, and the fact that they originally wanted a younger high-school version of Peter Parker, and that is why they have rebooted the Spiderman series. As far as any "bandwagon" I have jumped unto, it its the continuity that Marvel PROMISED us that they are now messing up that has me and others like me upset. They choose to place the Norton version of Banner in the Avengers universe (rememner the RDJr. as Tony Stark cameo at the end of the Incredible Hulk?), and THAT is why this is a big deal. But for YOU to start spouting off like a jerk-off and being a wiseenheimer about 'Oh, Norton's just mad because he's a baby who they wouldn't let re-write the script" just shows how stupid you are. You have just been schooled, and I'm sure you are rubbing your ass in pain from the pounding I just gave you. Learn to respect your betters, you tool.
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Marvel got Joss in there to direct because he gets the geek/genre franchise material, and after Fox broke his spirit by cancelling all his shows, Joss is on thin enough ice, professionally, that even the bush-league bean-counters at Marvel can keep him on a short creative leash. After butting heads with Norton on the final edit of Incredible Hulk, Marvel is probably wary of bringing him back again because they're afraid he would either inspire Joss to flex his nuts and buck Marvel's micromanagement of the franchise, or he would just bully Joss into doing things Norton's way, rather than Marvel's. But after this third time of hearing grousing about having to pay for real actors, I have to believe it's Marvel being tightwad control freaks that is causing static on their movies. Any studio that could lowball a pro-bono actor like Sam Jackson must be seriously stingy. -
bitchy little girl
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Joss Whedon has no nuts. He is a complete man-girl.
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oh marvel you promised me sniff sniff, now i am so sad that my salty tears stain my spiderman underoos while i jerk off to what might have been, and the only ass pounding is from when i fist your mom
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Norton is an actor's actor and Ruffalo is dull as dishwater. Don't get how he keeps getting work. A one-note actor for sure. Fail.
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Jul 14, 2010 3:48:01 PM CDT
Bicycle Sharer - You are dead on! DonKingKong and Killik - THANK
by prestigeworldwide
I appreicate that there are at least SOME good folks in this fourm who know truth when they read it! Though I must say, if I had my choice for Banner, I eould have to go with David Tennant, though in all honesty, I would choose his for ANY role. Ruffalo would be acceptable, but not much, as he simply lacks the pressence as many have already said to pull off a comic book movie role like this.
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"they originally wanted a younger high-school version of Peter Parker"
which is why they cast someone older than Tobey was at the time
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Say you were running Marvel Studios and your primary purpose in life was pissing off fanboys. You've just decided to replace all the major parts (Iron Man, Hulk/Banner, Thor, and Captain America) in one fell swoop. Nobody will say no to you. Who do you go with? I'm casting Benjamin Bratt as Tony Stark, Matt Damon as Steve Rogers/Captain America, Crispin Glover as Bruce Banner, and Hulk Hogan as Thor (kids love him!). What would you do?
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Jul 14, 2010 3:53:03 PM CDT
seagrass - And to all you people who keep screaming "Norton!"
by fat_rancor_keeper
...."when you have a rep for being difficult to work with, you aren't really going to fit in with an ensemble cast." Norton didn't get his bad rep 2 seconds into shooting IH. It was always there. However Marvel had clearly defined plans already in motion to create a series of films uniting the onscreen universe....so I'm baffled why they would bring on Norton to begin with when they knew full that he might not "fit in with an ensemble cast." For the record I don't think Norton's rep is half as bad as people claim. I think the man is just passionate about his work, he doesn't take kindly to bullshit and he has a backbone. His not being in Avengers is bullshit. The fact that he showed more class in his statement than Marvel or Feige did with their insulting passive aggressive spin proves that he is the better man. It also shows that he's far from the asshole that REAL assholes make him out to be through school-girlish gossip.
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Mark needs to keep his weight in check, which constantly seems to be in flux as he gets older. We don't want him to go the D'Onofrio route, especially when Banner has always been a "puny" little weakling.
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Especially since Zodiac.
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Tony Stark = Seth Rogen
Thor = Nicholas Cage
Steve Rogers = Brian Bosworth
Nik Fury = Laurence Fishburne
Black Widow = Lindsay Lohan
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Call bullshit all you want, I will get it on Nextflix
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Not just in looks but I think he could channel Bixby's humble, intelligent nature that he brought to the character. And that's good because Bill Bixby was the F'n MAN!
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They're just someone else's. And they're in his mouth.
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But I'd buy that cast for a dollar! Also, I agree, Joss has been beaten and abused into nutlessness, but Marvel doesn't want them growing back on their set. And they definitely don't want Norton there to play William Wallace to Whedon's Robert the Bruce.
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...NOBODY! CG Banner FTW
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Continuity is extremely important, because that is the key to creating classic movies for years to come. Otherwise you're just making disposable movies.
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Every single time he gets into a major confrontation and has to move on, he visits some mad doctor of a plastic surgeon.
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He's running the Marvel films division like a 3rd world dictator. The only thing he's done right was help get Marvel VS Capcom 3 made.
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He possesses all the qualities required to pull the role off. I think he's a great, non-starry choice. If this news is true, well done Marvel (though I would personally have liked to see Steve Buschemi in the role).
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He possesses all the qualities required to pull the role off. I think he's a great, non-starry choice. If this news is true, well done Marvel (though I would personally have liked to see Steve Buschemi in the role).
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This is what failure number 3?
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I never even considered Ruffalo, but I could definitely seem him as Banner.
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is one of the more talented and likeable actors working today. From Chuck in "Shutter Island" to Toschi in "Zodiac" to Stan in "Eternal Sunshine", he is constantly good. I have no doubt he will great as Banner. Still, Marvel set up a new universe and managed to fuck it up. C'est la vie.
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Jul 14, 2010 4:22:40 PM CDT
if Norton is difficult to work with then wtf did they hired him
by killik
in the first place? especially when its about a long-term project.
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I thought the whole idea behind the Avengers movie was to build it up with each character having his own movie and keeping the continuity going by having THE SAME ACTORS UNDER CONTRACT FOR THE AVENGERS! Norton bing replaced isnt as big a deal as replacing someone else like Robert D. Jr. or Sam Jackson ... but it almost is. I thought Norton did a great job. I was looking forward to seeing him and Robert D. Jr and Sam Jackson cram their superhero egos on the same screen. I think the Avengers can still be a good movie ..... but not as good if they could have just held it together.
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Is General Ross in the Avengers at all? Robert D. Jr. had a cameo with him at the end of the Incredible Hulk. They could at least keep some sort of continuity going by having Ross pop up somewhere. Maybe Liv Tyler or something. Of course the Avengers biggest test is waiting to see if Kenneth B. can pull off a convincing Thor movie. A real challenge considering the source material.
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Ruffalo is great, but that 1st pic looks JUST like Bobcat.
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No need for "nutless Whedon" conspiracy theories. Marvel plays financial hardball - that's why Terence Howard got canned as Rhodes, that's why Jackson almost didn't get his long-term deal as Fury, and that's why Rourke was on-again off-again for months on IM2 before it became official. Norton's rep released a statement last week saying that he believed Marvel's decision was motivated by money, and, based on their history, it isn't difficult to believe that at all. Norton probably wanted to get paid like Downey, Marvel wanted to pay him like a member of an ensemble, and a deal couldn't be reached. And frankly, if that's indeed what happened, Marvel was right - Incredible Hulk wasn't a great success either creatively or financially. No one outside of the geek community gives a shit who plays the Hulk's human alter ego, so why let Norton take you to the cleaners? Hell, how many people who don't check this website even remember that Norton played the Hulk? Great move by Marvel, only Downey gets to be bigger than the ensemble because the success of Iron Man has made it so. Ruffalo is a fantastic actor and he'll knock this one out of the park.
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Ruffalo is like Bana ... not right for Banner. He's not skinny and nerdy like Banner is suppose to be like Norton is. He's suppose to be the exact opposite of the Hulk. Buscemi in his day would have been fine. Norton was picture perfect. Ruffalo is as random as can be and there should be casting up the wazoo like there was for the Hulk (unless it's a no-brainer like Norton was). Ruffalo is a dumbass choice for Banner. Dumb. Random. And a complete knee-jerk choice to replace Norton.
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Hulk needs a casting call. Knee-jerk picks like Ruffalo are terrible.
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problem solved
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Too bad I'm boycotting the movie over the d-bag producer...
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i've liked him since You Can Count On Me and I always have been in every film i've seen him in. great call following the dumbest call since letting McG direct a Terminator movie.
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How much screentime will any of the superhero characters really get in their secret identities? In a 120 page script, Bruce Banner will probably have about three scenes of dialogue when he's not the Hulk.
Replacing Norton would have been a much bigger deal if The Incredible Hulk had been more tightly integrated with the Avengers universe. We didn't see Norton having any on-screen chemistry with Tony Stark, Nick Fury or Steve Rogers, so what difference does it make to continuity? It's not like they established Banner's relationship with the other characters in such a way that Ruffalo's casting will fundamentally alter anything. -
Jul 14, 2010 4:57:08 PM CDT
What was this Sh!T I was hearing about Norton being unreplacable
by the founder
Just like I said you whining ass bitche$. There are quite a few good actors that can fill the role. Although someone beat me to it I mentioned Ruffalo as a solid replacement as well as a few others and oh by the way F-UCK Edward fuck!ng Norton. When in the he'll this guy become pure actor gold all of a sudden where he is so damn great he can't be replaced once he plays a character. All u lame as moos going on and on and on and on about Norton this and Norton that and Marvel should bend over and take what ever sh!t he shoves up their ass to get him back. Please, after all this sickening lovefest over Norton I'm glad his ass is gone.
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at least in my opinion. those guys are too A type personality. even Bana who tried to hide it. Mark is solid B type and that's Banner. and that's Hulk. Hulk is a B type personality.
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Fuck Norton. And Bana was a frickin' bore.
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Yes just a great movie..very moving but not mauldlin at all. Ruffalo is very likable and a good actor and could see him as Banner for sure.
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I don't know what the guy was asking for salary wise but for some to say it was stupid for Marvel not to pay him what he wanted is asinine. Norton is a good actor no doubt but a box office draw he's not. I don't know if it's true he wanted RDJ level compensation but if he did and I was in marvel's shoes I too would've moved on to another actor. As for this situation with both Jackson and Rourke and Marvel not wanting to pay them all I can say is they too were probably asking for a lot but the difference is these guys had history and enough accomplishments where the could demand more then what Marvel was willing to pay. Jackson has had a solid career for quite a number of years so he is understandable. Rourke had success a number of years ago and established himself as a solid lead and although his career seemed to have stalled the fact that he came back and won an Oscar(did he win) or was nominated and was getting a lot of critical praise gave him a good position. Norton wasn't in the position as those two.
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the kind of guy other guys kick sand on at that beachruffalo is too cute and doesnt play neurotic well
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...actor, but he lacks...what do they call it...presence?
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about this guy. He's not a bad actor, not at all.... infact I remember in that Meg Ryan's Tits film he was good too.... but 13 going on 30.
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screwed up their own continuity worse than multiple studios ever could have.
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equivalent of Benjamin Bratt. I never pictured Banner as the schlubby type, so if he ends up in the role I expect it'll be so minimal that people will forget he's there compared to the CGI presence of the Hulk himself.
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the best chick flick i've ever had to sit through.
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Norton being out - and I'm sure Marvel are just as pissed about it as we are.... but if Norton really was as much of an asshole as it seems he was then I'd rather replace him and get some decent movies, than keep him, keep continuity and have him fuck up the movies. It's a shame that that is the choice, but if it is then Marvel have made the right choice.
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How can can you fail to understand why others may be upset about Norton not being in the movie? It's not a "sickening lovefest" if you think about it at all. FIRST, many fans clearly felt Norton did a good job so why replace him? SECOND, it seems like he's being replaced for possibly wrong & bullshit reasons. THIRD, Feige came off as a total douche in his statement. FOURTH, (and worst of all) by recasting Norton you lose continuity and we end up with a third take on Bruce Banner. FIFTH, by recasting Banner after having also recast Howard (and notable having issues with Sam Jackson, Rourke & Favrou) it's starting to look like it's pointless getting invested in any Marvel properties or the actors that play key roles because odds are after one movie your favorite - will be gone.....The list goes on......
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Bring back Norton, otherwise the setting up the universe premise doesn't work.
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If Norton was as much of an asshole as people claim and gossip about he would never have gotten the Hulk part in the first place. Also he would have responded to that shitty insulting statement by Kevin Feige with a lot more venom as opposed to being totally classy and respectable. He was a million times more professional than Marvel or Feige have been on the issue...and he's the guy who is out of a job while these assholes are still sitting behind their desks.
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That is All
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Ruffalo is such a no-impact actor. What a fucking downgrade. Eat my ass, Marvel. Bring back Norton now.
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own this part. He's got serious acting chops, and I've pretty much liked him in everything he does. Between Garners beauty and his great line delivery, it's the only reason I can stand 13 going on 30. Yeah, I said it.
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Jul 14, 2010 6:09:48 PM CDT
And in the next film, Bruce Banner will be played by...
by the_floating_skull_of_robert_loggia
The dude who plays the ambiguously gay warehouse worker on The Office. In the film after that, Banner will be portrayed by my nextdoor neighbor. And after that, a cardboard cutout from a liquor store...
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Jul 14, 2010 6:13:43 PM CDT
Incredibly Lame - what the hell happened to inspired casting?
by battleangel29a
This guy ruined Eternal Sunshine for me. He couldn't have possibly been less obvious in giving away the twist in Shutter Island.
I've been trying, very diligently, to getting into what Ruffalo is about, but I just can't stop thinking that he's like the genetic splice of the worst parts of Benjamin Bratt and Vincent D'Onofrio... there's something about him that just *pisses me off*. He seems like such a pussy, I could never imagine him getting angry enough to become The Hulk.
This is seriously the most uninspired, default casting I've heard about in a while. Phoenix is probably all kinds of wrong for the part, but that's an inspired choice!
And while we're talking about uninspired choices... get a load of how fucking *awful* that Thor screen snap looks. Can it get much shittier looking than that? Is Marvel just trying to hand D.C. the bad ass award? WTF......... how the hell did they pass on Alexander Skarsgard in favor of Chris Hemmeroid? The dude looks like he travels at all times with baby wipes and baby powder for those little "oopsy" moments where he plops out a single, tiny, hard pebble of poop. And Loki?? WTF...
Back to Mark Ruffalo. No. No, Mark Ruffalo, you cannot play Bruce Banner. Bruce Banner is officially in hibernation (at best). Ed Norton (who I also have lots of problems with) was Bruce Banner- when someone of that caliber accepts a role in a super hero movie and puts his artistry behind it, he owns the role. That's why Punisher War Zone doesn't really exist (although it does)... Tom Jane isn't playing the Punisher.
Was Tom Jane the obvious choice for Frank Castle? hellllllll no. But he stepped up and really took it on as his own. That's a dude who clearly lived and breathed that role, was as psyched about that role as can be. And because of that, he owns the role. It's his now. Just like The Joker belongs legitimately to both Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger, who both completely owned the characters.
That's what this is about. Good actors OWNING their stupid ass super hero role, and making it REAL. RDJ did this, Ed Norton did this, Tom Jayne did this...... Alex Skarsgard would have absolutely brought Thor to life. Matt Damon arguably did this with Borne (marred by a horrible director and his loyalty to said director). Above all, Michael Caine *thoroughly owns* as Alfred.
Toby McGuire did *not* do this. Whatever his name, Rhodey1, did not do this. Chris Hemmeroid is not going to do it. Mark Ruffalo is the last person on the planet who could possibly do it. The dude is just absolutely lame.
Sharlto/Buscemi/Phoenix - make a deal. Get someone with some balls, some insanity, who knows how to dive into a part and invest real life, real vitality. Someone who, even though Banner will likely not matter in the end, will make those few moments exceptionally memorable.
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Forget the haters, Ruffalo is a great actor and will bring good chemistry to the role. I like it, and he's a good guy, too, from all accounts. I hope it happens.
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F*cking Awesome.
A theatrically trained artist who puts craft before ego and ALWAYS seems to enhance the value of the productions he is in. An ultimate utility player. PERFECT CASTING. BRAVO. -
GOING TO SUCK!Good thing Batman3 is coming out in the summer of 2012.
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If people thought Erik Bana did not emote enough, how about Ruffalo! Terrible choice! We need someone with at least some emotion.
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or gets a massive overhaul, Batman 3 is going to be a tragic parody of the first 2...J.D. or no J.D.
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He may have to shed a few pounds to look the part though. You know, Banner is supposed to be the skinny nerd. Rufalo is not skinny...and doesn't resemble a stereotypical nerd in the least!
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Nothing against Mark Ruffalo, but I've never seen the appeal which is in my opinion the same reason he's never "broken out" despite many opportunities. He's a final character actor, and I'm sure he'll do a competent job, but this is a "safe," uninteresting choice.
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Okay, I'm tired. He's a "fine character actor," but he's boring.
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Right, I totally agree. It's possible that Ruffalo will surprise us and deliver on all the hype, but I doubt it. I would describe his performances as "as competent as they are forgettable."
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Wow, an actor who actually takes direction and adapts to the vision of the film he is in. We don't need an actor who projects the whole "Watch me as actor X portray a guy as he melodramatically changes into the HULK!!!!" Eff that. Downey is awesome because he IS Stark. Ruffalo will become Banner.
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funniest retort of the week, agree or no. FUNNY SH!T!
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God, the suggestions from a few days ago were way better
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I'm not an Iron Man buff, but I know from watching Downey's other films that there is a hell of a lot of Robert Downey in that role. Cocky, playful, devilish..."it." I agree that this is not the right persona for Banner, but we need something. Quirky (Cage), Stoic/Gentle/Bixby (okay, I'm coming around on Matthew Fox), geeky (Colbert), geeky eccentric (Buscemi, but I still say he's too old). Ruffalo's not going to have enough lines to slowly marinate into his role, stake out his territory, etc. We need someone with more magnetism and/or quirkiness.
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Not my first choice, but not a deal breaker either.
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He is the best choice out there!
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Your particular simile kinda makes me want to barf, but I'm in basic agreement. Not a deal-breaker, but certainly not inspired either. Still, unless Ruffalo and Hulk are absolutely magical in this, I see any future stand-alone Ruffalo/Hulk pic as attracting even less of an audience than the first two.
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Someone suggested Matt Damon. I gotta tell you, I am in full Matt Damon burnout mode. Unless he plays it straight geeky, kinda like Tom Ripley but without the homocidal/homoerotic stuff.
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Hes ok, but sure as hell no Norton. I wish they would cast people that look older than 30 in movies.
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...I'll have to break out the "Marvel Can Suck My Cock" t-shirt I got from Hart Fisher back in 95 for the next geek shindig I go to.
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WILD CARD, BITCHES!!!
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Look man I respect your opinions as well as others with credible comments but at some point you gotta say enough already. This tb has gone way overboard concerning Norton. I like the guy as an actor and I didn't have a problem at all with his Hulk film but I can accept a change. Now do i want continuity? Sure but Norton is no RDJ. Norton's Hulk performed mediocre, which in terms gives the guy no leverage to demand an RDJ level salary( don't know if he ever did) some amount of creative control and what ever the hell else he wanted. All most can say about Norton is that he is indeed an awesome actor but he doesn't have a successful track record box office wise as a leading man or top biller. Norton's rep as being difficult to work with is a hindrance to his career. If the dude was Wiil Smith level successful in terms of box office then studios and directors would put up with him cause he can plant asses is seats but he's not. Norton major success at the box office was do in part to the source material then people wanting to see him. I would love to have seen Norton on board but I'm not gonna go on and on and on and on about his departure. Ruffalo is a more then suitable. My concerns about this film is in other areas such as Joss Whedon at the helm and Zak Penn as writer last I checked then being focused on Ed Norton staying on
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Skani - agreed. Ruffalo/Hulk solo pic is impossible. The dude has all the personality of a plunger. That said, I think a Hulk solo pic in general would be very hard to do at this point. Hulk *is* an awesome ensemble character, he's great to base a story around. The Ultimate Hulk vs. Wolverine is an awesome, awesome read. Hulk/banner get some face time, as does Wolvie, but it's really how they play off eachother that make them both bad asses. The Hulk would be a great character to keep as a foil for more classic, leading characters. Future solo Hulk films would have to have other Marvel character appearances in order to work.
The only dude who could pull off a solo Hulk film at this point is Sharlto Copley. That is seriously insanely inspired casting - it's really quite perfect. I don't even care if he has the same accent from District 9. There is something very comfortable about knowing that's the guy inside the Hulk. And his banter with RDJ (if ever a scene like that was allowed) would just be beyond priceless. You need someone who can banter. Ed Norton/RDJ would have been hilarious and actually believably tense.
I know the ship has sailed on Ed, but man, this kind of backstory is PERFECT for the character. He would literally be on the verge of holding back his inner self the entire time. It would make for some palpably vital drama and would probably be the kind of acting x-factor (no pun) that would elevate this film to the kind of thing IM1 was.
I'm holding out hope they'll cast literally *anyone* other than boring ass Mark Ruffalo. Mark Ruffalo has *never* become a part. He's been boring, lame, "why the hell do you have a career? oh it's because people think you look like benjamin bratt" actor in every single movie I've seen from him.
The Dark Knight *didn't* have Crispin Glover, Paul Bettany or any of the obvious choices. And because they went with pretty boy Heath Ledger, they got someone who literally owned their role. That is how movies should be casted.
The moment people say "ah, whatever, Bruce will be in it for 10 minutes tops, who cares" is the moment you give Hollywood mooks to cut corners and punch the clock on every aspect of a film that DOES matter. It's how a film maker/studio respects the smallest details that lets you know how the important flagship details we be treated. Every artist I've ever known who had *real* vision has always reveled in the details.... where the devil is. -
Seriously this guy may look closer to banner as depicted in comics but his acting is so so and he's been the same character in all ive seen him in including That 70's show.
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What I said.
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-Norton may have been great in this, but nothing about IH warrants that prediction
-I think this movie has a lot of inherent problems just based on the diversity and sheer number of characters and alter egos. The best of the superhero movies find a way to make it plausible that this person could actually exist. When you started trying to weave all of these mythologies together, it gets dicey fast. And with movies, you even have different sensibilities as to cinematography and lighting, different milieus (think Gotham vs. LA in Iron Man). Beyond that is just the fact that it gets bloated, because you've got scenes that mostly exist for the purpose of re-introducing characters, having them meet one another, etc. In that situation, it's hard to have something that is really driven by a good plot when you've got all of these other issues to deal with. And if you don't make those introductions satisfactorily, then that's not satisfying either, because what are all these people doing together (one of those lame prefatory paragraphs is not going to cut it)...so it's kind of a rock and hard place. -
I think Bradley Cooper, at one point at least, could have pulled it off. Cillian Murphy would be another good choice, Casey Affleck, etc... I don't know.
I would imagine the studio would want to cast someone who could actually spearhead another Hulk movie if it came down to it, as well as elevate this movie. I think Sharlto Copley is the only guy who could headline a hulk feature and also reallllly elevate the Avengers. We all know that Thor is going to be a diarrhea-guzzling suck fest, so you can count out any cool factor from that.
Let's be honest here, the only thing that put Marvel on the map is RDJ - if these guys were smart, they would find a few other actors who could repeat the trick and continue the legacy for the studio of having great casts with people who will dream about ways to make their movie better. RDJ ain't going to be around forever, and when he leaves (or if he's barely in Avengers), you can close the case on the Marvel Studios experiment unless you keep the spark alive. Very, very curious to see how Captain America does. I think that could be another shocker of a fun film - Thor is going to just straight up gobble nuts. It's going to be the greediest ass eater of a film imaginable, just eating asshole left and right. ::shudder:: -
Ed who now?
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I think that towards the end of IM2, the filmmakers became very clever about how to wink at the audience about the insanity of what is to come. The lines like "you can't afford me," etc. - if they can play up the absurdity of the situation while also packing the film full of gutbusting, breathtaking action, that's all that's necessary to make this one a success. I think it's eminently doable.
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Seriously, I understand the complaint that not casting ruins continuity. And I even accept that this is much worse than Howard/Cheadle, because Banner is much more central to the universe. But my think is that the Hulk/Hulk world they created in IH does not deserve to be part of Avengers. IH was lame. It's not worth fighting for. I would rather see Marvel correct their mistake and give us a better Hulk than have them keep throwing good money/effort/screen time after bad by including the IH version of Hulk (and don't get me started on William Hurt as Ross) in Avengers. That said, I don't think this new Hulk is going to be any better than the old. Bottom line is that I want Marvel to keep making Hulk films, and I want every single one of them to be a reboot until they get the effing thing right.
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Yeah, I was saying in an earlier post that I think they actually did a good job w/ Freddy vs. Jason (I know, wrong genre, wrong set of geeks). That movie did a good job of weaving together the two worlds and sensibilities and making something that could be fun for fans of either genre. That may sound easy given the obvious highbrow tastes of slasher fans, but it really is difficult, and I had every expectation that they would get it wrong and it would just be depressing. Still, even Freddy vs. Jason was ultimately pretty forgettable. I had a lot of fun and so did the whole theater, but I've only re-watched it once and probably won't watch it again.
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Great choice. Loved him in "Blindness" and "Eternal Sunshine..."
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Jul 14, 2010 7:32:34 PM CDT
I like it, I wanna see it, Ed Norton didnt look the part
by dioxholsterreturns
this guy feels hulkish without being green
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feels like he has a disdain for the audience.
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Well of course the thing was mostly unforgettable because it wasn't Freddie Vs. Jason Vs. Ash ;) I agree. TIH is far, far from an ideal Hulk film. I actually think Steve Buscemi would be an amazing pick- why can't Betty/Bruce be more mature in age? RDJ ain't a spring chicken and frankly neither is Gwyneth Paltrow. How cool would Steve Buscemi/Sharlto Copley and Charlotte Gainsbourg be?? Or fuck it... can we just do away with the Betty character and not be constantly going all King Kong with this character?
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It's all about the moneyyyyyy! Replacing Tobey Maguire with whatshisname is the difference between however many millions Tobey was getting and the $500,000 the new guy is getting. I'm sure Norton wasn't the problem at all, his reputation is what they used to save big bucks. Now the movie is ruined somewhat. Who wasn't looking forward to the big names joining together? Oh yeah we live in a time when young and younger rules the theaters. Sucks because the older guys can act circles around these Twilight wannabes. Next up Robert Downey Jr is replaced by Chris Evans who will be pulling triple duty when they decide to have him play the new Iron Man, Captain America and Human Torch in a guest appearance. Saves money, why not? Marvel is getting cheap. Wait until the results come in, oh forget that if two crappy BAYformers movies do hundreds of millions we are all doomed to mediocrity when Avengers is utter crap and pulls in a billion. Changing continuity by recasting worked for Iron Man 2 and The Dark Knight but this has to hurt in some way. Ed Norton is a great actor! Now we won't get to see Norton's Banner play against Downey's Stark. This sucks big-time.
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always cranky and bitchy as the detective, what an asshole.
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Idiots! Banner is a wuss and a nerd, not a Hollywood hunk. Fuck you all.
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Do people really give a shit who plays puny Banner? In the Avengers movie, it'll be all about Hulk smash!
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It's more about the Hulk, than Banner, so they could have got Justin T-Lake, I wouldn't care. Or just made a cgi Banner, as long as they get the Hulk right!
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I wouldn't play it geeky, if I were him--no, he should play it the way Bill Bixby did...as an average joe, but one with above average intelligence, and tremendous determination to defeat the beast within him. Bixby's Hulk/Banner was thrust into a story that was very much like The Fugitive, and thus, the character had great pathos. Such a film needs someone like Matt Damon who is smart and commanding as an actor. He fades into a character, and yes, he will be very much like Ripley in that the Hulk is a riff on Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde...and it is Damon that can play such a complicated, involving, and evolving role (a dangerous and unpredictable character), and make you like him in the end. Ruffalo, no.
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...if he can do a good American accent. Otherwise Duchovny would be great. Or just make up with Norton, he made that last HULK movie worth watching! I saw it twice and wasn't bored.
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Really. Hollywood Reporter / Bleeding cool sez that Ruffalo was offered and Whedon had zero say in it. Glad to see he's standing up for directorial vision. Bring back Norton!
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Several things:
Norton winning the title role in the Incredible Hulk was no real prize when it comes to the film world. The first Hulk was a disapointment and considered a failure. You weren't going to get any A list star to take on the role of Bruce Banner at that point. Most stars with a strong career will not jump into a franchise midstream replacing the lead role. The only time I can think of it happening is Jack Ryan movies.
Second, I think he got the role in the first place because he was probably the biggest name they could get who lended some legitimacy for the project. After Ang Lee's Hulk turned off a lot of the viewing public, they couldn't go with a complete unknown in the title role. Norton does have a good reputation as a great actor even if he isn't a box office draw which was a better gamble than paying an unknown for the movie.
Third, as The Founder said, The Incredible Hulk was a disapointment at the box office. It didn't make back it's money domestically. That is a strong indication that most of the movie viewing public don't really care if Norton returns. The people on this board represent a very small portion of the viewing audience of a major summer blockbuster. Also, a decent segment of this board would go see it if they replaced Ed Norton with Paulie Shore.
Fourth, Marvel already had problems with Norton in the editing and promotion of The Incredible Hulk. Whether if Norton's idea of how the film should be cut was right or wrong, it is a pattern for him to cause problems when things are not his way. His return was alway not great to begin with and he was going to have to win over the director and agree to certain things which he may or not have.
Fifth, as for how things played out in the public the last week or so, I say kudos to Norton's PR manager and shame on you to Marvel's. Virtually no actor issues a statement that is written by themselves. They have PR companies to write these things to put them in the best light. Norton shuns the press to begin with, but do agree that his PR manager seems very classy based on what he/she wrote. Marvel's PR manager should take some lessons. -
...do you know ANYthing about Banner or the Hulk? Banner is supposed to be a geek/wimp/nerd, not someone who looks like superhero.
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That guy is a wicked harmonica player.
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I like Ruffalo a lot and everything, but keep Norton for continuity's sake and that's the whole reason for this Avengers movie to begin with. Norton was the perfect Banner. :*(**
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I like Ruffalo a lot and everything, but keep Norton for continuity's sake and that's the whole reason for this Avengers movie to begin with. Norton was the perfect Banner. :*(**
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Literally
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He's already done three man-on-the-run films with Bourne trilogy. Obviously, it's not exactly the same thing, but I think it would be too reminiscent of Bourne to have him evading cops and special ops guys, moving from city to city, not forming relationships because he's always on the run. Too much Bourne deja vu baggage.
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Ruffalo, you don't need this role. Your destiny is Lt.Columbo.
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Although Alexander Skarsgard would have made a good Thor, he would be a terrible Superman.
I do however believe the next Superman IS on True Blood, the werewolf Alcide, played by Joe Manganiello.
That dude totally looks the part, is big, could get bigger, is italian (Superman, written by Mario Puzo, father played by Marlon Brando, black slicked back hair with greasy front curl, etc.) I see Superman all over that guys face everytime I watch that fucking show, and he would look more the part than any actor to date.
"But Jack Slater part 4, what about his big nose?"
Foolish underling, it's no bigger than Brandon Routh's nose, and he has the strong jaw to compensate, it's not like it's Adrien "Big Nose" Brody levels.
On topic, Mark Ruffalo was really good in Shutter Island and looks like the Hulk, which I like.
Please Marvel, Please Disney, let the actor who plays Banner perform the mocap as HULK. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stop dropping that ball. -
if/when Thor bombs?
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since news of Norton being dropped I've been all "dude Nortons the man get him back! get him back!"
Ruffalo's name comes along and I'm thinking.
PERFECT! he would rock at Banner. My only concern would be if they have the Hulk as the bad guy in the film ala' Ultimates. Ruffalo might come across as too nice a guy. -
...is that he would only work in an ensemble movie like the Avengers where his back story and personal life are trivialized or completely ignored. Think about it. If The Avengers is a big enough hit to inspire Marvel to give the Hulk another go in a standalone picture, who would you cast as Betty Ross opposite Buscemi? Hollywood being Hollywood, the chances of them making a movie without at least one significant female role (read "love interest") is pretty much non-existent. That being the case, what bankable female star would you cast who would be believable as Steve Buscemi's girlfriend? Jennifer Connelly or Liv Tyler? I don't think so, even if Buscemi was 20 years younger. Maybe it's because I'm an old-school Hulk fan, but I never bought the retconned "Bruce Banner is a wuss" idea. To me, the only reason he's the Hulk is BECAUSE he had the courage to risk his life to save a stupid kid. The Hulk is capable of being a hero because Banner always had it in him. That's the one trait that Norton brought to Banner that I hope they don't lose.
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Ryan Kwanten, who plays Jason Stackhouse, for The Flash.
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Ryan Kwanten, who plays Jason Stackhouse, for The Flash.
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I'm actually really positive about Ruffalo joining the group as puny Banner. I looked at the top photo and immediately thought of the tv series' "Lonely Man Theme". I could see Ruffalo getting his science on as super smarty Banner and then changing into Hulk. I mean, Norton for continuity sake would be cool, but Kevin Feige pretty much publicly screwed that particular pooch. No, I think Ruffalo has a vulnerable quality to him...peaceful, calm, sedate...then boom!
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sign that fucker up for Frank Castle
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I know he's a sackless pushover pussy tween girl, but he really should insist, or at least ask executive producer Jon Favreau to talk to the "scary executives" on his behalf.
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...is that he would only work in an ensemble movie like the Avengers where his back story and personal life are trivialized or completely ignored. Think about it. If The Avengers is a big enough hit to inspire Marvel to give the Hulk another go in a standalone picture, who would you cast as Betty Ross opposite Buscemi? Hollywood being Hollywood, the chances of them making a movie without at least one significant female role (read "love interest") is pretty much non-existent. That being the case, what bankable female star would you cast who would be believable as Steve Buscemi's girlfriend? Jennifer Connelly or Liv Tyler? I don't think so, even if Buscemi was 20 years younger. Maybe it's because I'm an old-school Hulk fan, but I never bought the retconned "Bruce Banner is a wuss" idea. To me, the only reason he's the Hulk is BECAUSE he had the courage to risk his life to save a stupid kid. The Hulk is capable of being a hero because Banner always had it in him. That's the one trait that Norton brought to Banner that I hope they don't lose.
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Fuck that. I want Norton. Fuck the avengers now.
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And Daddy Smith is to replace Samuel L Jackson
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Darko - I've been pretty drunk while writing these responses... but your big mammoth post takes the cake for "drunk sounding" rambling that still 100% makes sense and is unarguably brilliant.
Jack Slater-
You are also completely correct about your Superman/Frank Castle casting. That dude is completely, completely perfect the more that I think about it. That's what I'm talking about, inspired casting!!! I'll also take Jason Stackhouse for the flash. Also, NativeGanjin, I think Charlotte Gainsbourg would be a perfect Betty for Steve Buscemi. Hey, she already fucked Willem Defoe on screen. Someone like that, an edgy "I'd bone a crazy looking skinny older weirdo scientist because I'm obsessed with his beautiful soul and mine" chick, would totally work. The problem with Hulk is they haven't gone freako enough! I think Ang Lee was right to try to make it a bit of an art house flick - he just compleeeetely botched the job. The Hulk is a very strange character and deserves a *very* strange movie to go along with it. Mating The Hulk with standard formula = fail. But giving The Hulk a movie that is coherent, exciting, and absolutely cult-classic-level bizarre = amazing. I really don't understand why they can't get better Hulk FX... But they have to make it a freako movie. Romantic hollywood types, no. Engaging, somewhat attractive for their weirdness indie movie types = yes. Imagine Charlotte Gainsbourg and Ed Norton/Sharlto/Steve Buscemi. It's the ultimate geek love. A hot girl who convincingly would love someone, even if they looked like a total lunatic.... Mark Ruffalo should just play Jeremy Piven's younger brother in something and then retire. There is absolutely no gravitas to that guy. Man, the Steve Buscemi call is *so* good. I would literally go nuts to see that guy give the "you wouldn't like me when I'm angry" spiel. The movie you could create w/ Steve Buscemi as The Hulk is really amazingly priceless and classic. -
the movie you would create w/ Steve Buscemi is the movie they should have made with Ed Norton. I guess that really is what it comes down to - for all his fussing, Ed Norton wasn't able to make a good Hulk flick. Dude should have turned it into the 5X crazier version of Fight Club. A Hulk movie should be a classic, "how the fuck did they get that approved" movie that gets referenced again and again. It should be the Fear and Loathing of big comic book films. Smash and grab Hulk doesn't work on the big screen in the same way Punisher doesn't work on the big screen... it's King Kong and Death Wish -> comic books -> back to the screen and it doesn't work. You have to really cleverly re-cinematize this stuff in a way that sets its own bar, doesn't just ape classic pre-existing stuff.
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my $0.02
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i think he's an excellent choice
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Cuz that would suck, I can see the character being amazing.
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Agreed, Norton was great in IH, but shite happens and we don't know the actual story behind, so let's move on.
In Shutter Island, I was only convinced that Dicaprio was a mental patient when Ruffalo came in as his doctor. Great performance, great actor.
I still support Marvel Studios. Original or replacement, always with QUALITY choices. Now, get the X-characters back and give us the X-Factor and New Mutants TV shows ASAP, heh.
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RDJ. if he cancels or quits this picture the whole thing will wind up being cancelled watch, they better give RDJ a producer credit.
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Mark Ruffalo is B-O-R-I-N-G!!!! Get somebody with some personality!
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Kirby's Banner , Buscema's Banner, Byrne's Banner (looks like no other Banner ever), whoever was drawing Peter David's arc... Every artist drew him a little different. Height, weight, hair type, size of glasses... Hell, didn't Byrne give him MS and put him in a wheelchair?It's a shame that Marvel isn't following the gameplan and keeping the same actors to realistically set up their own movie universe. And it will come as a weird shock to casual moviegoers to see someone else (yet again) as Banner. But Ruffalo is a good choice. He's given nothing but interesting, realistic performances in everything I've seen. Sure, he hasn't played a brainy twerp with rage issues, but there's nothing in his resume to show that he can't.Ideally, it should have been Norton all along, Ang Lee movie included. Ideally, Norton should have behaved himself. Shit, ideally, that Frank Oz movie with Brando, deNiro and Norton should have been better than it was. The whole situation is fucked, and they're trying to fix it as best they can. Under those circumstances, I welcome Ruffalo, and whatever he brings to the role. Let's just hope it turns out instead of rooting for it to fail.
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With his friends and Whedonites.
Patton Oswalt as Captain America (CGI will make him look tall, good looking and muscular)
Nathan Fillion as Ant Man, Tony Stark, Nick Fury and Loki
Summer Glau as Thor (Loki has turned Thor into a girl)
Alexis Denisof as Bruce Banner
Nicholas Brendon as the Wasp (transvestite)
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Santa Claus from Warhammer 40000AD is in the new Thor movie. MARVEL FUCKING SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS.
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So is "that said" Harry's version of "but"? Is "that said" a liberal woodstock hippie's attempt to sound sophisticated and learn-ed?
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Even Iron Man.
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seriously, this sucks. Bring back Norton! Come on Marvel, you have one of the greatest actors of our times wanting to come back and play this character, and yet you decide he's not good enough for you? I was so stoked for this movie, and now I just don't care. Have fun without me, fascists!!!!
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as THOR!!!! YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE!!!!!!!!!! :)
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then Ruffalo's a solid replacement
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Starting with "You can count on me." But my initial visceral reaction to him as Banner is as posted above: "NO, GOD NO!
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As a Marvel fan since the early 80’s I am thrilled these properties are making the big screen all these years later no doubt. However it’s these last two – Thor and Cap – that have me shaking my head. These two iconic characters are absolutely essential to the Avengers AND THAT IS THE ONLY REASON THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BACKSTORY MOVIES. Back story moves. IMO that’s all the Thor and Cap movies are being made to set up the Avengers, that's it. And the quality will suffer for it just as Iron Man 2 did.
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It's over and best to move on. Norton is gone get over it. I've said phuck Norton but truth in point I think he's a great actor and is probably a nice guy but like someone mentioned already he is a very smart guy that take his work as an actor serious, maybe too serious. The guy has a rep pure and simple off being difficult to work with, probably due in part to the tons of hackery and foolishness that is in Hollywood. Unfortunately as good an actor that Norton is he has no clout in Hollywood because he isn't a Will Smith. Smith could be the nastiest sob and worst actor to work with in
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Jul 15, 2010 2:20:57 AM CDT
"Is that said" a liberal woodstock hippie's attempt...
by the bicycle sharer
"To sound sophisticated and learn-ed?"
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Jul 15, 2010 2:21:39 AM CDT
"Is 'that said a liberal woodstock hippie's attempt...
by the bicycle sharer
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Jul 15, 2010 2:25:34 AM CDT
"Is 'that said' a liberal woodstock hippie's attempt..."
by the bicycle sharer
"To sound sophisticated and learn-ed?" No, probably not. I say it pretty often, along with "that having been said," and I am pretty much the furthest thing that you'll ever find from a "liberal woodstock hippie." Well, certainly it's not in me. Maybe it is in Harry, but I kinda doubt it. Sometimes we just pick things up. Ever paid attention to how much the word "clearly" gets used when it could be omitted or "obviously" or "plainly" could be used instead? How 'bout "amazing?" Or "no worries?" Or "all set?"
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suggested Adrien Brody? I mean, it SUCKS that Marvel got rid of Norton 'cuz he did a much better job of channeling Bixby than Bana did, but if he's out, then why not Brody? He's the right nerdy-type & he just played a scientist in SPLICE.
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It's possible that they may have this guy in the Avengers movie, and then either do a Hulk movie or stick him in Iron-Man 3 or something so they can then sweep Norton's Hulk under the carpet and conveniently 'forget' to include it when they release the box set.
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but anyway...no Ed and Robert, probably not going to see this theatrically now.
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...should be played by Rudy Reyes of Generation Kill.
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It just goes to show you can't be too careful
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that comic book movies always seem to bring out the armchair casting agents.....
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a team player. that is why he is being replaced.
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equivalent of Benjamin Bratt" LOLWhen was the last fucking time Benjamin Bratt was relevant? Miss Congeniality?Yeah you're a fucking idiot. Bratt has NOTHING on Ruffalo.
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Bratt eclipses him in talent entirely. Glad you see the light.
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its just not 1960-1980 anymore,so gay....oh and Ruffalo is a terrible choice for Banner (so, he'l get the part then)
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This guy never looks alike twice in two different movies. This guy is a true chameleon, a shape-shifter. Damn talented too. Good casting choice, absolutly no complains from me.
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Don't think I've ever actually seen that name in these talkbacks before. Wierd. Possibly didn't get my point, which is that different creative teams have completely different takes on these characters. Banner's look is not consistent from artist to artist. That's never hindered the comic book audience from relating to the character. It appears these movies are doing the same thing. Don't think I ever suggested that the movies should be pen & ink. That would be absurd, defy the purpose of a live action version, and anyone who got that out of my post has severe reading comprehension issues, is putting their own thoughts into it, or is just trolling for a flame war. I was saying more that this will be the third iteration of Bruce Banner in the movies (Fourth live action including Bill Bixby). Each version is somewhat similar to *some* version of the comic, some take on Banner (tho I'm really not impressed by Bana at all). If you can't make room for another take, by a talented actor, in a big budget action sci-fi fantasy movie based on a medium where visuals, style, and characterization shift with every new creative team, just about every three years or so (which just so happens to be the approximate time between the release of these movies) then the problem lies with you. Is that clear enough for everybody?
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working on effects films are difficult. actors act. but it takes a huge creative leap for them to work with nothing. norton is a writer, actor and producer. before becoming bruce banner he possibly never had any experience working on an effects film. it may well be that norton doesnt want to to do it again. anytime soon. marvel didnt want him back after all the creative control issues that were stirred up.
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he'll be fine.
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he'll be fine.
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Yo Adrian. They didn't do it Adrian. It should have been you!!!!
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Hilarious
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I still want Norton in the role.
It's odd how quickly Marvel will dump a high profile actor when they think they can get away with hiring someone cheaper. It's not like the good old days of classic comics where you could dump the writer and kids wouldn't really notice. -
Harry should be Hulk
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Green lanterns suit is looking good...Compared to that which is Thor... http://codecrackx15.wordpress. com/2010/07/15/new-power-range rs-nope-its-thor/
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Jul 15, 2010 9:44:06 AM CDT
If you're looking to replace Norton, then I say...GREAT CHOICE.
by jdanielp
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the greatness that AVENGERS can be.
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And then I saw 'Mark Ruffalo'
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He's just all wrong for Banner. He doesn't have the geeky type of presence that Banner should have. I think I agree with others who have mentioned Adrian Brody. He's got the right mix of geek and inner rage needed. Ruffalo just doesn't have that and he comes off as a genuinely nice guy. This casting is way off.
Now I'm starting to think that that The Avengers is gonna be a very corny movie. codecrackx15 mentioned that DC was starting to rise and Marvel is sliding and I'm starting to agree with that. They started off excellent with Iron Man. The Incredible Hulk was good but not great and Iron Man 2 was not very good.With Chris Nolan making the Batman movies and now helping with Superman the quality will be better then Marvels. Marvel only seems to be going for disposable junk food movies. Here's hoping Captain America and/or Thor prove me wrong. The problem is that after seeing Thor's horrible costume I have huge doubts on that one already. -
More than any other actor working today he has the nerdy thing going for him in spades. Also, anyone that has seen his work in The Office or The Hangover knows that he can also channel that frightening inner rage needed for the part.
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ED HELMS!!!
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I'm only half joking. I don't think Ed Helms is any worse a choice than some of the other actors suggested, except for Zack Galifanapogus Islands. The Hulk was my favorite comic growing up and at this point I am just jaded as to Hollywood's treatment of the character. I'm in the camp that thinks that they should just leave Banner out and only use Hulk.
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You Can Count On Me is his best performance by far. Such a great little film. Didn't even know about Margaret. Thanks for the good news, Herc.
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You are 100% correct, Norton, God love him, is a control freak. He wants in on the script, the editing, direction and promotion. If he does not like what he sees he refuses to promote. He should seriously get into directing if he wants that type of control. I LOVE him as an actor..but he is not a team player.
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Ruffallo does look like Jar Jar Abrams in that photo, indeed! I also thought the same thing.
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They can make a Hulk prequel later that explains how Banner came to control the Hulk. I must admit I am ignorant when it comes to The Avengers. Why did Nick Fury recruit the Hulk anyway when he cannot be controlled. Wouldn't he be a detriment to every mission. I know he did fight Thor a lot. Seems stupid to me for Hulk to be an Avenger until Banner gained control.
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by far the best choice yet made casting hulk.
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Thor is going to tank. You all know this, right? Same goes for Captain America. Too bad Marvel didn't invest their energies into making a good Iron Man sequel. I'd rather they produced a good Iron Man 3 than put out Thor, Cap, and Avengers combined.
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I'm not a big fan of this. I'd rather see someone more skimpy. Someone like Edwa-- oops! Damn!!! Thanks Marvel you really MADE MINE!!!!
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Zachery Levi as Superman makes more sense than this guy as Bruce Banner. Ed Norton was great and captured much of what Bill Bixby brought to the role. Personally, I prefer the David Tennant as Banner rumor.
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If Hulk is portyaed as the bad guy as in The Ultimates line it's no big deal. Hulk was the "villain" in Avengers #1 way back in 1963. Loki tricked Hulk into destroying a train track to lure Thor into a fight with Hulk. Loki's plan failed when the other heroes responded to the Hulks rampage and learned that Loki was behind the whole mess. The Avengers are then formed as a result. So, it's no big deal if they follow either the traditional Marvel Universe or The Ultimates using Hulk as the bad guy.
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and also much opportunity for comic relief. If as kname says, Hulk was first a bad guy in Avengers #1 then the movies have already went in a different direction having Stark visit Banner at the end of Incredible Hulk. Obviously, Stark knows the deal with Banner/Hulk.
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And I don't care how much they pull her zipper down. She doesn't belong in the movie. Ms Marvel would be nice is well suited for the big screen. Basically shes just a female superman w/o the cape so just use the same tricks they do in the supes movie.
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Seeing Banner being a rival for Stark in smarts, achievements, academics and attitude would bring some draman. And an intelligent hulk "Mr Fix it" persona would do the same with Thor.
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Some of you are really grasping at straws. There isn't going to be another Hulk film unless it many years away. Two films have been and both underperformed. I think in the second outing they had the shot and failed. I felt the IH was good but it just didn't connect with the mainstream enough.
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Jul 15, 2010 1:36:08 PM CDT
Who exactly is on the team? The Vision or Wonder Man could work
by the founder
I saw War Machine somewhere being listed. Is this true? Nor sure if they need two IMs on the team. Black Widow is cool but they need another female character. It' should be Wasp. Also Wonder Man and Vision would be cool.
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Avengers is going to be thrown into disarray after Captain America and Thor tank. I doubt they will do better than IH.
Copley or Norton as Banner
Brad Pitt as Thor
RDJ as Stark
Matt Damon as Captain America?
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He's going to be the biggest star in the world after Scott Pilgrim comes out so Marvel should make a deal with him now if they've got any sense.
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Fuck you. Jealous much?
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"Form of a Douche Nozzle..."
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Fuck you. It's obvious that you're jealous of Michael Cera.
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Thank you, you do the same. ;0P
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Nice come back bitch.
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It's ok. There's nothing wrong with that. Either that or your actually... Duhn... Duhn... Duhn... (Wait for it!) ...actually Michael Cera himself posting here. Which would be sad.
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Go to the Thor Talkback and you will see ScottPilgrimLover is throwing that slur around willy nilly. See, I said "willy nilly." I'm not afraid of my feminine side.
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Are we all agreed?
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Still makes me shudder.
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Back in the 80s I remember an article in wizard magazine where they can up with the cast for an avengers movie. Heres who I remember: Timothy Dalton as Tony Stark due to his role in the rocketeer: Fabio as Thor; Howie Long as CA; Judd Nelson as Hawkeye: Peter Weller as Vision (due to his role as robocop). Can't remember who they had for the wasp or scarlet witch. For villains it was Dolph Lungren as Baron Zemo, Pamela Anderson as the enchantress, the russian fighter from the street fighter movie. They also had a role for the radioactive man, again don't know who. The list was made from the wizard staff. Thought it'd fun to share it you guys. Anyone else remember this article?
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shit's cringing...he was alright in shutter island and collateral though. the last castle though bwahahahahhahaha
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Nah, you're the bitch. well atleast Michael's bitch, in the menatime go bow to his bellend.
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Please no...
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Tony stark to be played by gay Patterson vampire fag.
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I guess I am in the minority in that I rather enjoyed The Incredible Hulk. I thought Norton and Bill Hurt were great in it. Norton would've been fantastic in this ensemble. I don't care how much of a dick he is on set...let him have input on the fucking script, and let him go to work.
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is going to be such a crappy film... it's going to be unbelievably crappy... I can't wait to miss it.
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