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Capone has fun with the flawed PREDATORS, while having a evil blast with DESPICABLE ME!!!

Hey, everyone. Capone in Chicago here. Due to a slightly overwhelming travel schedule and work load this week, I've had next to no time to devote to keeping you informed about what films are worth checking out and which aren't. And so I'm going to resort to something I haven't done in well over a year, possibly closer to two: a mini-round-up. Just a few paragraphs per review. I'm not a fan of these, but I don't really have a choice. A lot opens this weekend, so let's get to it... PREDATORS I thought this fairly faithful sequel to the original PREDATOR got the job done, and I had a blast watching a group of seriously talented and fun actors get put through the paces on a game preserve planet being hunted by a handful of predator creatures. I rewatched the original film, starring the current governor or California, and I was surprised how much dead space there actually is in that movie. That said, I still enjoyed watching it. Coming in at about the same running time as the original, PREDATORS follows a bunch of military-trained, murderous humans all snatched from Earth and deposited on a jungle planet to both act as prey for the predators and get used to hone the skills of the aliens so they can hunt and kill more effectively. It's a great idea that plays off a very b-movie story and amps it up with extreme violence, loads of gore, and more compromised morals than I've seen in one movie in quite some time. Director Nimrod Antal (ARMORED; KONTROL) and producer Robert Rodriguez have crafted a great looking movie loaded with performers that take the story seriously and add a great deal of gravity to their characters when they easily could have been played for laughs. Leading the team is a mercenary played by Adrian Brody (you see, he's the American, so he's in charge), followed by Alice Braga, Oleg Takarov as the Russian, Danny Trejo as a Mexican kidnapper, Louis Ozawa Changchien as a Yakuza (named Hanzo, no less), Mahershalalhashbaz Ali as an African soldier, the scene-stealing Walton Goggins as a death row inmate, and Topher Grace as a doctor. Wait, what? Showing up at the halfway point is Laurence Fishburne; I won't spoil who he is exactly, but I liked his performance quite a lot. I also liked the new varieties of predators we are introduced to here, while still paying tribute to the original guy who freaked us out in the first film. Antal is without a doubt a talented filmmaker with a strong sense of pacing and one upping himself with each new action sequence. My only complaint was that I would have liked a few more surprises in terms of who lives and dies. It's pretty clear from the first 10 minutes who's going to make it to the end of the film and perhaps live to fight more predators in a possible sequel. No, I don't think this movie will make my best of the year list, and I'm not even that driven to see it again any time soon, but I was thoroughly pulled into this story and this world, and I think PREDATORS is worth checking out.
DESPICABLE ME Probably the week's best mainstream release, the 3-D animated DESPICABLE ME takes a rather bold approach to its storytelling by making its lead character--the Charles Addams-esque Gru (voiced in a vague Eastern European accent by Steve Carell--a bad guy... or at least a guy who thinks he's bad. In this world, villains are very much a part of everyday existence. They steal precious artifacts, destroy national treasures, and use a freeze gun on everyone in line in front of them at the local coffee rather than politely waiting their turn. Cads! When a new, younger villain named Vector (Jason Segel) starts besting Gru's best efforts, Gru devises a plot to commit the ultimate heist by stealing the moon with the help of a shrink ray and a rocket. The only problem is that Vector has the world's only shrink ray, so Gru must plot a way to steal it from him. Deciding that using little girls selling scout cookies would be enough to distract Vector, Gru adopts three cute girl orphans and tricks them into becoming a part of his scheme. Naturally their sweetness has an impact on Gru, who was treated quite awfully by his critical mother (Julie Andrews), and he starts to become attached to his new family. Carell adopts a lower-key persona than he has in the past for playing Gru, but by doing so, the jokes seem to resonate more and are much funnier. I liked the supporting voice work from Will Arnett, Kristen Wiig, Jack McBrayer, Danny McBride and Mindy Kaling, but I have to give a great deal of credit to Russell Brand as Gru's partner in science and crime, the elderly Dr. Nefario. Brand puts on a voice that I frankly didn't recognize as his. He's a real treat and a welcome surprise. And I certainly can't leave out the supporting work by Gru's dozens of little, yellow, goggled minions (who have been front and center in the film's ad campaign), who act as worker bees for his dastardly deeds. They are very funny and operate as a collective Greek chorus, commenting and criticizing Gru's work. Predictable? Yes, but it's a film aimed at youngsters. What do you expect? The truth is, I was occasionally blown away by the film's visuals and its novel approach related to the portrayal of bad guys. Apparently, there is a difference between a villains and a bad guy. I also was impressed by the 3-D, which usually stays in check but sometimes loses its damn mind and nearly pokes you in the eye with sharp objects. Perhaps the only downside to DESPICABLE ME is that it's coming out on the heels of the vastly superior TOY STORY 3. But there's plenty of room in the landscape for two solid animated features, so let's applaud the efforts of both rather than feel like we have to choose. I think you and the kids will get a kick out of this movie.
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  • July 9, 2010, 1:32 a.m. CST

    Can't wait for Predators...

    by SingingConan

    but nothing can top the original!

  • July 9, 2010, 1:33 a.m. CST

    I had to kill Predators......

    by DickJones only question is how long does Walton Goggins survive?

  • July 9, 2010, 1:37 a.m. CST


    by NippleEffect

    Brody noses them to death

  • July 9, 2010, 1:37 a.m. CST

    I don't get DESPICABLE ME

    by RPLocke

    What are those things anyway? They look like game pegs or something.

  • July 9, 2010, 1:39 a.m. CST

    re: I don't get

    by NippleEffect

    to me they look like uplifted guinea pigs

  • July 9, 2010, 1:40 a.m. CST

    "you see, he's the American, so he's in charge"

    by aceattorney


  • July 9, 2010, 1:43 a.m. CST

    Predators was great IMO

    by MJDeViant

    It pays a ton of homage to the original (some might say too much), the characters are good enough and Brody is great as sort of an anti-hero. The endind was a little weak, but we all know how everyone wants sequels. Honestly, I LOVED the movie up to the part where you *SPOILER IF YOU HAVENT SEEN THE INTERNATIONAL TRAILER* see that guy from Africa die *SPOILER OVER* and the first time you kind of see the Predators. After that I just liked it. A worthy sequel, good summer flick, and will be nice against my Predator 1 and 2 collection.

  • July 9, 2010, 1:45 a.m. CST

    C'mon, the original Predator's survivors weren't surprising...

    by RedEgiraahgnal

    ...either. Of course only Schwarzenegger and the girl make it through.

  • July 9, 2010, 1:45 a.m. CST


    by My friends call me Killjoy

    Leans too heavily on the original. I thought it was an effective enough riff, but nothing more.

  • July 9, 2010, 1:56 a.m. CST

    I'll check it out on DVD

    by Sardonic

    But there's still just something badass about the last half-hour or so of Schwarzenegger and the predator going mano-a-mano

  • July 9, 2010, 1:58 a.m. CST

    All these positive reviews, and yet...

    by kevred

    ...when they list out what's good & bad about the film, it all sounds bad, derivative, and predictable, and they seem to have trouble actually coming up with anything that's really good about it. Still waiting for one positive review that actually is positive.<p>I suspect people really want to like the film, really want that original buzz back, and are convincing themselves it's greater than the sum of its parts. But the reviews I've read are all strikingly unenthused and flat.<p>As for the "dead space" in the original...sheesh. How feeble our attentions spans have become. Films don't breathe anymore.

  • July 9, 2010, 1:58 a.m. CST

    I think DESPICABLE ME is gonna bomb

    by 3D-Man

    Big time

  • July 9, 2010, 1:58 a.m. CST

    DVD? That is SO 2005.

    by DickJones

    I'll be seeing this either on Blu ray or less-than-legal-digital-download.

  • July 9, 2010, 1:59 a.m. CST

    They both sound average.

    by RPLocke

    And yet the Inception reviews are full to bursting with praise.

  • July 9, 2010, 2:03 a.m. CST


    by BadMrWonka

    are you kidding? Despicable Me only cost like $70 million to make, which isn't all that much for a big summer animated feature. with the 3D upcharge? come on. it'll make like $35 million this weekend at least, which is plenty, since animated films that are pretty well reviewed have a lot of legs. <p>Predators on the other hand? well. I like to think it'll make $25 million this weekend, but that might be pushing it. I say $40 million for Despicable me, $23 million for Predators. <p>and if I'm right on the nose, I get free ice cream from everyone.

  • July 9, 2010, 2:24 a.m. CST

    I am having a evil blast

    by StarryNight

    While talking like a 4-year-old

  • July 9, 2010, 2:27 a.m. CST


    by StarryNight

    I like how almost the entire review for Despicable Me is contained within an unclosed parenthesis. Since I'm doing lots of editing work for this site, why not put me on the payroll?

  • July 9, 2010, 2:28 a.m. CST

    Kevred, you're on to something...

    by Ponfarr

    But I actually think all these positive reviews all trying to be critical of the movie. They don't want to seem like fanboys, drooling all over it. So they bring out a list of complaints, to prove they didn't just give the movie a pass.<P>People seem to think they have to be overly critical of things in order to give their criticism weight. It's a fun ride, not even dumb fun necessarily, just fun.<P>Also, agree you %100 on the attention span issue. A good movie, like a good wine or rum, needs to breathe to really be enjoyed.

  • July 9, 2010, 2:30 a.m. CST

    So, you're having a blast, BUT...

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    ...was Kurt Russell laughing?

  • July 9, 2010, 2:45 a.m. CST

    Look, nobody enjoys

    by papabendi

    killing Predators; but if you have to kill Predators you might as well enjoy it!

  • July 9, 2010, 2:47 a.m. CST

    Dr Horrible

    by The Ringwraith

    Surprised no-one seems to mention just how similar in concept and tone this seems to be to Dr Horribles Sing-Along Blog. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but I'm still surprised no-one seems to be bringing it up. Until now.

  • July 9, 2010, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Dead space in Predator?

    by catlettuce4


  • July 9, 2010, 3:25 a.m. CST

    Predators Sucks.

    by hanselsgig

    I saw Predators yesterday and thought it completely sucked. Hardly any tension, suspense. Characters miscast. No athmosphere and proper landscape for an alien planet (world). The plot was so bad and predictable. The dialogue was imbarrassing. What on earth was Lawrence Fisbourne doing in this film. A waste of talent. I know Aint it Cool folk are friends of the so called Robert Rodrigez, he promised a good film, and didn't deliver. He should be embarrassed for making this mess. The last decent film he made was Dusk Till Dawn and that was only because Quentin was involved. This could of been a truly amazing film but turned into a mess. I even found myself liking AVP1 + 2 better than this crap. Robert Rodriguez and his director chum aren't a patch on McTieran's original. And why would you want to even pay homage to an original. Be original!

  • July 9, 2010, 4:04 a.m. CST


    by Scalvador

    So many points of retardation in your post I don't know where to begin. 'The dialogue was imbarrassing'...first of all,it's 'embarrassing', probably not a great choice of word to misspell. 'The so-called Robert Rodrigez' - what other name does he go by? Also, he produced, so your comment about FDTD and Taratino's involvement is completely redundant. I really couldn't care less about Predators, but your comments make you sound like Mongaloid Mike's retarded younger brother.

  • July 9, 2010, 4:07 a.m. CST


    by omgwtfbbqsauce

    It's so fluffy, I'm gonna die!

  • July 9, 2010, 4:12 a.m. CST

    Twilight Bitches!!!!

    by Bodacious_Crumb

    This place needs more Tween defenders. Not.

  • July 9, 2010, 4:15 a.m. CST

    Aint It Capone News

    by Bob of the Shire

    Are you the only one who does any work around here? Seriously, you better be getting paid fat stacks, or whatever the kids call it these days.

  • July 9, 2010, 4:20 a.m. CST

    PREDATOR? Dead space?

    by caruso_stalker217

    There isn't a wasted frame in that motherfucker.

  • July 9, 2010, 4:53 a.m. CST

    heh... that aint a spoiler MJDeviant

    by ClaireRedfield

    This is an action/horror film. The guy was from Africa. We all know that his chances of surviving were pretty slim.

  • July 9, 2010, 5:11 a.m. CST

    No dead space in Predator

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    It's perfectly building up tension, and making us fucks wait for our dinner.

  • July 9, 2010, 5:16 a.m. CST

    Hanselsgig, thanks for giving me an idea...

    by Cervantes

    ...of just how bad this has turned out. I can just about forgive the miscasting, lack of atmosphere and lack of proper alien-looking world...but if there's hardly any tension or suspense throughout, then that's just UN-forgivable!<p>The fact that you reckon you liked AVP1 + 2 better than this, REALLY makes me worry...<P>I personally found your comments of interest, whereas 'typo'-Nazis like Scalvador can't see past a few spelling errors...

  • July 9, 2010, 5:29 a.m. CST

    Dead Space? Get a fuckin clue...its called SUSPENSE u LOSER

    by quantize

    sheesh...not cool AT ALL

  • July 9, 2010, 5:38 a.m. CST

    Dead Space?

    by gingerella

    You start your review of NA/RR's reboot by having an oh so gentle pop at the original? That way, you can spare one of this site's alumni the kicking he deserves for making a pointless sequel to a film 23 years on. Esentially, "This film's not great but the original wasn't all that so let's cut the guy some slack." Spare me the kid gloves instead. Secondly, what's with the fashionable bullshit that 3D should only be used to enhance the ambience and NEVER point or throw things at the audience for fun cheap thrills? Why says who? James Cameron? Fuck him! Who made him Jesus? If I see a kids' film in 3D I want shit coming at me. End of. What the fuck is wrong with you people all singing from the same handed out bullshit hymn sheet? "3D is fabulous as long as they don't point stuff at you." I've read 50 reviews on this site spouting the same garbage. What ever happened to individual opinion? And rest.

  • July 9, 2010, 5:44 a.m. CST

    You liked Laurence Fishburne's performance a lot?

    by Sam Raimi's Car

    That's it, I'm swapping to Latino Review.

  • July 9, 2010, 5:58 a.m. CST

    Couldnt disagree more about Predators ...

    by JackGraham

    saw it last night and i was very dissapointed. I'm, like most people a big fan of the original, to me it's one of those films that can be watched again and again and never get bored of it. it stands up so well. there are literally dozens of things that predator gets right that predators does not. As soon as the actors began talking i began sinking further into my seat at the theatre. dont expect a great script filled with quotable dialouge. the script is bland, really bland, filled with exposition for the first hour that really tests your patience. the best lines are given to the death row convict, and Adrien brody has one or two as well. the acting in this film isnt that great. it doesnt help of course that the script is fairly poor. even adrien brody struggles with some of his delivery here. you get the sense that brody wanted to ne in this bcos he's a fan, not bcos the script was a doozy. the actors never echo the realistic edge of the original. for the first hour it was as if i was watching a tv show, in the vein of Lost. midway through morpheus himself shows up in a cameo not too dissimilar to tim robbins in war of the worlds. its pointless and goes nowwhere fast and he's gone after 10 mins. his performance isnt good. its embarrassing. what is he doing!! I cant really recall one memorable death in this movie apart from the deaths of the predators themselves. the humans have no memorable moments, you dont get to know them, they just walk from a to b and chat about whats going on and how do they get out of here etc ... the most character development here is one of the guys showing a photo of his kids, thats it, we're supposed to care about him now cos we know he's got kids. it didnt work. i couldnt care less when he died. adrioen brody isnt right for this part. he does his best but his character isnt even very likebale. he's a loner, who doesnt value human life, therfor he is just as happy to let one of his fellow humans die if it means he will live. and he's the hero of the film. hmmm. nobody knows his name throughout the film until the very end, when he announces it to the female sniper. we're supposed to think "ahhh he's a changed man now bcos he's opened up and told someone his name" LAME!!!! the predators themselves have none of the movement or character of kevin peter halls predator. they are now just guys in suits, a real shame cos the original predator felt like a character, just like say c3p0 was a character or bigfoot ;) these predators are just giant hulks of walking threat, yawn!!! the action is often incomprehensible and unsatisfying. the sword fight between the yakuzza and the predator is over in 1 minute and is choreographed poorly. is there anything positive i can say. well the music is a welcome return to the originals themes, and the opening first minute gives you hope as brody falls from the sky and thuds to the ground with the predators caption blasted on the screen in large font. one or two of the action moments are good, if not great. the bad outweighs the good however. the ending is very sudden and anti climactic, is that it kinda deal! there is no extended ending where brody sets traps. piles on the mud, faces off the predator over a 30 min period, which worked so great in the original. what we have here is a 5 minute final face off where brody uses his fast pace to run at the predator and hit him repeatedly with a stick, and then decapitates it. theres no horror, no suspense, just walking, talking and action. i hate to say it but predator 2 was better than this, and id place this in the same bracket as Alien vs predator. a big dissapointment. what a nimrod!!!!

  • July 9, 2010, 6:12 a.m. CST

    ^ You Made My Brain Hurt

    by I_Only_Fill_Out_Subject_Lines

  • July 9, 2010, 6:19 a.m. CST

    I can't get my return key to work :)

    by JackGraham

  • July 9, 2010, 6:23 a.m. CST

    What's this I've read somewhere about Predator venom?

    by I_Only_Fill_Out_Subject_Lines

  • July 9, 2010, 6:31 a.m. CST

    I'll explain ......

    by JackGraham

    don't read my posts people if you want to watch Predators without knowing why it completely sucks ... otherwise read on ... its not venom from the predators, its a venom substance that emits from the plant life on the planet. at one stage one of our human heroes gets infected with it and is paralysed from it, which means she can barely move and cant talk. but conveniently when adrien brody saves the day, said infected person is suddenly feeling better and asks "is it dead" he should have replied with " the predator or the franchise"?

  • July 9, 2010, 6:33 a.m. CST



    He likes Predators! Break his legs!

  • July 9, 2010, 6:48 a.m. CST

    I already Netflixed queued it. I hope it streams so I don't hav

    by I_Only_Fill_Out_Subject_Lines

  • July 9, 2010, 6:49 a.m. CST

    e to deal with disc returns. This is a dumb gimmick username.

    by I_Only_Fill_Out_Subject_Lines

  • July 9, 2010, 6:53 a.m. CST

    Dead space

    by UrbanSamurai

    Capone I usually like your reviews, but “dead space“ in the original Predator?? Serious about this? I re-watched it just yesterday (hyping up for a trip to the cinema next week) and GODDAMN!! It is macho, it is eighties, sometimes it is even pretty dumb, but it is absolutely flawless. There is no dead space. The pacing is absolutely perfect!! Sorry, but if you refer to the scenes of eerie silence (except for jungle sounds and those awesome drums on the soundtrack) as “dead space“ ... quite frankly I do not have a “then“, because I don't get it. The scene where the tracker is just staring at the jungle, sensing the Predator, while being watched by him, still gets to my nerves every time. Dead space?? Serious?? When these rough and tough warriors discover the skinned bodies and just stand there in shock and disbelief. Dead space?? Really?? But then, IMO Predator is the perfect example of a “mood“ movie. If you are in the right state of mind you will have a blast like no other movie (“Aliens“, maybe) can give you. If you are not in the right mood, it actually can bore you to tears. Had the experience once myself. Give it another try, maybe a few months in the future, when you are in the right state of mind, you will not regret it!!

  • July 9, 2010, 6:57 a.m. CST

    DESPICABLE ME- i don't get it either.


    i think it was advertised poorly...the early 'silent' style trailers with the unoriginal music (that little old ditty from some 60's movie) certainly didn't help. The styling is totally unattractive and doesn't even fit within its own universe. Seems like it doesn't know what it wants to be....and yeah- what ARE the yellow things- in a cartoon world based on villany existing in a fairly realistic world, they don't seem to fit at all. it's like someone said 'we need the equivalent of the Toy Story Martian- something cute that all the kds will want to buy as a toy and that all the simpletons with not enough attention span for the story will get relief from every time the little yellow guys talk...

  • July 9, 2010, 6:58 a.m. CST

    Enough of Steve Carrell.

    by Bodacious_Crumb

  • July 9, 2010, 6:59 a.m. CST

    Enough of Steve Carrell.

    by Bodacious_Crumb

    I can't believe he's leaving The Office to make more bad movies. Fuck him.

  • July 9, 2010, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Capone is dead space

    by BP_drills_america_a_new_asshole

    Dead space in Predator? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON, CAPONE? It's called ramping up tension. You may as well say the first hour of Aliens is also dead space. Thank god most reviewers never get to make films because they would be the suckiest films ever. Come to think of it, NO reviewer I've heard of ever went on to make films. Wonder why.

  • July 9, 2010, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Large and in charge...

    by JamesT

    I think he's in charge, because he's the "star" of the movie.

  • July 9, 2010, 7:17 a.m. CST

    claireredfields right: If you ain't Danny Glover

    by leo54304

    and you're black guy in a Predator movie, got one thing to say: dead man walking.

  • July 9, 2010, 7:18 a.m. CST

    one question about PREDATORS


    do all the preds at some point take their masks off- or all the only faces we see the 'classic' predator and the super predator-crab-face one? just wondering if some of them die without ever being seen? that would be a waste. curious to see if nimrod and crew totally fucked up the faces like AVP did, or if there is enough similarities with differences to explain why none of them ever look quite the same (other than hollywood can't duplicate stan winston's greatness anymore, or they think we all need different predators to be able to tell them apart- their armor style is usually clue enough for me)

  • July 9, 2010, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Saw Predators last night

    by Shpadoinkle

    and it's easily as good as Predator 2, if not better. Fast paced, very violent and slick B-movie that is solid as a rock if not spectacular. Anyone who likes the AVPs more than this must have shit for brains, they were family friendly/too dark to see uber-shite. This one has spinal columns being ripped out (which got a massive yelp of glee from the audience) and good interplay between characters. Only thing that anoyed me was Brody knowing the answer to fucking everything, but it feels like a true sequel to the first. I can't remember what is was (or if we're showed) what that tied up Predator had done to deserve it though.

  • July 9, 2010, 7:22 a.m. CST

    Solomon Grundy wants boobies!!

    by leo54304

    Sorry, loved the Challenge of Super Friends especially when Grundy would talk like the Hulk. Always wanted to know what he'd sound like as a drunken, horny muck monster with a foul mouth. Besides its Fridaaayyy!! Now give Solomon Grundy some blue pills, Solomn Grundy got date with Giganta!!

  • July 9, 2010, 7:31 a.m. CST

    We know theres going to be a body count

    by leo54304

    For me the fun is: order of who gets killed, what part of the movie and type of death. I hope this film does just well enough financially to make another one but not enough to bring the same director.

  • July 9, 2010, 7:32 a.m. CST

    Wait, Capone- WHAT??

    by D.Vader

    The Predators drop the humans off on their planet so that the humans can hone their skills and learn how to kill the aliens more effectively? Huh? Doesn't that seem a bit... counter-intuitive? I'm not sure what you're trying to convey there. <p> "humans all snatched from Earth and deposited on a jungle planet to both act as prey for the predators and get used to hone the skills of the aliens so they can hunt and kill more effectively. " == Confusing.

  • July 9, 2010, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Despicable Me has a rather terrible ad campaign

    by D.Vader

    Nothing about it looks interesting to me. Its a very bizarre campaign they've got going on, one that conveys absolutely nothing about the plot of the film, other than a main character that talks funny, kids, weird weapons, and little yellow minions.

  • July 9, 2010, 7:50 a.m. CST

    D.Vader it's Perfectly Clear

    by FlashRogers

    "humans all snatched from Earth and deposited on a jungle planet to both act as prey for the predators and get used to hone the skills of the aliens so they can hunt and kill more effectively." and nowhere does it suggest "that the humans can hone their skills and learn how to kill the aliens more effectively" Your confusing yourself!

  • July 9, 2010, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Oh I see Landravager... its the "get used" part

    by D.Vader

    That confused me. I thought he was trying to say the humans are supposed to "get used to HONING the skills of the aliens so they can hunt and kill more effectively," as if the humans were learning skills (which they are) to survive. <p> But now I see the intent was the humans are *being* used.

  • July 9, 2010, 7:53 a.m. CST


    by blackwood

    I want a DEAD SPACE movie. Nao.

  • July 9, 2010, 7:55 a.m. CST

    DESPICABLE's minions...

    by blackwood

    I like the RAVING RABBIDS much better.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Surprised at dead space?????

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Poor Capone has been Bayified. He's needs an explosion every ten second. Yeah, look at all the dead space from the time Jesse and his buddy launched the mortar, to the time they had to duck before it exploded. I guess Jesse did have time to bleed with all that dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:08 a.m. CST

    Okay, now that I've read the other comments it's clear

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Anyone with a brain realizes there is no dead space. Capone has seriously dropped the ball with these sort of commments. As a friend's wife put it they could release that movie today, and wouldn't have to change a single thing.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Used to work in a bookstore...

    by Dingbatty

    and even in the worst of economic times, people always buy a shit ton of kid's books because today's parents spoil the unholy fuck out of their spawn; this is why today's kids are insufferable, brainless brats. Same goes for whatever latest crapbomb of a CG cartoon movie with celebrity voices comes down the sewage pipe. Unsurprising, the second most popular books are from the self-help/psychology section, for obvious reasons.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:12 a.m. CST

    I hope they do Predator Cubed next

    by rev_skarekroe

    In which they kill off most of the characters from Predators that we developed an emotional investment in.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:15 a.m. CST

    "Dead space in the original Predator"...

    by That_Girl_From_The_Lowes_Commercials_GARGANTUAN_FOREHEAD

    Capone = Worst. AICN Reviewer. Ever. <P> LMAO <P> How the FUCK did he get a job here?!?

  • July 9, 2010, 8:16 a.m. CST

    like a chorus of monkeyfied lemmings

    by Bouncy X

    so he says something negative about a movie so many of you think is awesome and you all jump him. its just hilarious. how dare he actually have an opinion that doesn't match yours...give back your geek card or whatever they call it these days Capone, you've dared to think for yourself. :P

  • July 9, 2010, 8:16 a.m. CST

    Dingbatty, yeah when was the last time a kid

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    read an E.B. White book. Mine because I've had enough of the crap at these school book sales. I let my kids read what they want for one book, then I pick the next. That mean White, Judy Blume, and Laura Ingalls Wilder. Guess what? My kids have literally thanked me for it.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:17 a.m. CST

    I will see Predators for one reason alone

    by Prisoner_Zero

    and that is Walt Goggins, easily one of the best actors working in America today. Otherwise, this movie would get the same treatment as those shitty AvP films - complete denial of it's existence.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:19 a.m. CST

    So which old TV episode did "Predators" rip off?

    by James_Camera_On

    If you said The Outer Limits, episode "Fun and Games," you win! If you also said that episode, along with corresponding episodes in Star Trek, Blakes 7 and no doubt others, was "derived" from the Frederick Brown story "Arena" you get -- absolutely nothing. Because Hollywood steals anything it wants whenever it wants (Alien, for example, was "based/inspired" by the short story "Dark Destroyer" by A.E. van Vogt.) Fortunately, nobody reads these stories any more. Even more fortunately, nobody cares.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Also, yes, "dead space"`

    by Prisoner_Zero

    Add my name to the fast expanding list of people who read that and immediately lost major respect for Capone's supposed talents as a reviewer.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:21 a.m. CST

    the planet that they're on

    by durhay

    Is it the Predator homeworld or a "game preserve" planet?

  • July 9, 2010, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Predators does not even rate its own review?

    by fiester

    But has to share a review with a cartoon kiddie flick, huh?

  • July 9, 2010, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Wait, the Predator bomb ticked too slow

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    there's your dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:25 a.m. CST

    The chopper ride was too long

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    There's your dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Weathers looking at papers instead of killing

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    There's your dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Billy waiting on the log bridge instead of

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    running up to the Predator. There's your dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:27 a.m. CST

    I think he means the dead space

    by son_of_ebert

    right before "Just like me."<p>probably..

  • July 9, 2010, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Bouncy X

    by That_Girl_From_The_Lowes_Commercials_GARGANTUAN_FOREHEAD

    Oh Please kindly FUCK OFF with that cliched, IGNORANT retort about "all opinons are valid"..."Film is subjective!" nonsense. Jeebus... It's not like people can't have differing opinions, but there are certain filmic "truths"... and one of them would be that Predator is a fuckin' classic. And there are certain little things you can critique that film for, but "dead space" ain't one of 'em... lol That "dead space" Capone knocks it for, would be referred to, by other, more SENSIBLE film critiquers, as "Character Development"... or "Building of Tension"... These things are NOT subjective. And calling these very important aspects of film-making: "Dead Space", just goes to show you how "ignorant" someone is at judging a film critically/objectively. It would be like saying "Saving Private Ryan" is a great film... except it drags a lot between each battle sequence, with all the "talking and stuff"... (this person would be classified as a FUCKING IDIOT) Comprende senor???

  • July 9, 2010, 8:28 a.m. CST

    The gang waiting for the Predator to enter the trap

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    There's your dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:29 a.m. CST

    Bill Duke killing a boar barehanded instead of

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    killing the Predator barehanded. There's your dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:30 a.m. CST


    by HoboCode

    Say that 5 times fast. Hell I'll give kudos to anyone that can do it once.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Killing a scorpion instead of killing the Predator

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    There's your dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:30 a.m. CST

    The Predator removing his mask at the end, instead of

    by That_Girl_From_The_Lowes_Commercials_GARGANTUAN_FOREHEAD

    just beating the FUCK out of Arnold. There's your dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Remember that time when the

    by son_of_ebert

    mini-gun ran out of bullets?<p>Dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:31 a.m. CST

    THE OPENING CREDITS, instead of

    by That_Girl_From_The_Lowes_Commercials_GARGANTUAN_FOREHEAD

    The Predator FUCKING EVERYONE'S SHIT UP. There's your dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:32 a.m. CST

    The first 87 MINUTES OF THE MOVIE...

    by That_Girl_From_The_Lowes_Commercials_GARGANTUAN_FOREHEAD

    There's your dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Dammit Grammaton Cleric Binks...

    by That_Girl_From_The_Lowes_Commercials_GARGANTUAN_FOREHEAD

    Look at what you started! <P> ;-)

  • July 9, 2010, 8:35 a.m. CST

    All this sounds great but...

    by HobGoblin

    ...still bummed out about Kevin Williamson getting fired from Scream 4. I know it's off topic. I know hoping for a great Part 4 was dumb to start with. But I'm crushed. Jesus, I need a new life...

  • July 9, 2010, 8:35 a.m. CST

    "Dead space" = "a little slow"

    by HoboCode

    You remember Merrick's son's review right?

  • July 9, 2010, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Jebus you are a critical lot

    by brute101

    Before you all bash a film like 'Despicable Me' wait to see it. All of you who say you 'dont' get it' haven't even seen it yet - you're just posting on here to see your name on the page. Go see it and then offer your opinion... As for the yellow minions, they don't have to be anything real you over-critical vats of monkey bile. I'm sorry you are having a hard time getting what they are or aren't.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:36 a.m. CST

    there are no "filmic truths"

    by Bouncy X

    what one person considers a classic, others think is shit.i never said all opinions are valid, i just said everyone has their own and to actually get upset because someone doesn't share yours is just hilariously pathetic. but thats the "geek community" for you, they all pat each other on the back for liking/disliking the same things but the second someone thinks differently well....99% of the arguments on this site alone wouldnt exist if people understood the concept of opinion.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:36 a.m. CST


    by That_Girl_From_The_Lowes_Commercials_GARGANTUAN_FOREHEAD

    Yes. <P> Yes, you do. <P> ;-p

  • July 9, 2010, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Bouncy X

    by That_Girl_From_The_Lowes_Commercials_GARGANTUAN_FOREHEAD

    Wow. Nice way to GENERALIZE there champ! I never fuckin' said that "anyone who disagrees with me is a fuckin' moron". FUCK. Two words for you bro: Reading. Comprehension. <P> Sorry bud, but reality doesn't work that way. If someone calls "Lawrence of Arabia" SHIT, and states that their favorite film of all time is "Resident Evil: Apocalypse" cuz xombies are kooool... than they are in fact, either less than 12 years of age, or they are a FUCKING RETARD. Do you disagree with this? And obviously Capone's "critique" of Predator isn't quite the same level of stupid... but it's still an ignorant statement. <P> "The Godfather" is a boring mess of a film. There. Is that a "valid" opinion, Mr. X?

  • July 9, 2010, 8:49 a.m. CST

    And furthermore...

    by That_Girl_From_The_Lowes_Commercials_GARGANTUAN_FOREHEAD

    Of course everyone can have a different opinion. HOWEVER, they aren't all equally valid. It's how you ARRIVE at said opinion. People can have DUMB, uneducated opinions. The REASON, or CAUSE for the differing opinions are generally based on lack of intelligence... poor taste... superficial thinking... lacking the ability to think critically, etc... I don't accept those opinions as "equal" or "valid". It's that simple. However, if you DO arrive at your opinion by using: insight/critical thought/objectivity, etc. than your "differing opinion" is completely acceptable. Is that more clear?

  • July 9, 2010, 8:52 a.m. CST

    The dead space...

    by KubricksBellEnd between Capone's ears... I than' you...

  • July 9, 2010, 8:55 a.m. CST

    yes i disagree

    by Bouncy X

    because if that person honestly feels that way then they do. they aren't wrong or retarded, its just their opinion. of course people who share the opposing view will disagree but they aren't any more right or wrong because its just their opinion as well. as for Godfather, its not a mess but it is indeed boring. oh no, now you really think little of me, hope i survive. but its okay since its just my opinion so you'll live. ;)

  • July 9, 2010, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Bouncy X...

    by That_Girl_From_The_Lowes_Commercials_GARGANTUAN_FOREHEAD

    And again i'm not attacking YOU, or your taste (more specifically)... i'm attacking your "attitude". Your defense of poor taste. That's it. You may have extremely good taste for all i know... however, your blind defense, or your "crusade" on defending everyone's opinions being equally valid is just... well, silly. No hard feelings ;-)

  • July 9, 2010, 9:03 a.m. CST

    There is not one wasted second in Predator

    by slone13

    Not one. That movie is nigh perfect.

  • July 9, 2010, 9:04 a.m. CST


    by Bouncy X

    i know you aren't attacking me, dont worry i'm not taking anything personally, even if you were. lol and i'm sorry if i'm just coming off that way but i dont think all opinions are valid. i just dont get why people get all upset and even sometimes attack others for having that different opinion. let's stick to this whole particular case of Capone, all he said is he felt the movie has dead space and look what happened. people jumping and attacking him, claiming they lost respect. if they all think he's wrong then fine but geez, overreaction much. and sadly this happens all too often here, some people do have civil discussions over their differing ideas and opinions but most of the time its "you're a moron because you like/dont like such and such" and thats the attitude i dont understand.

  • July 9, 2010, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Billy from Predator

    by Bodacious_Crumb

    When I was a young lad, I always thought he would've made a perfect Wolverine although my friends laughed at me because he was too tall. Then Hugh Jackoff was cast years later.

  • July 9, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Well Bouncy X...

    by That_Girl_From_The_Lowes_Commercials_GARGANTUAN_FOREHEAD

    I can see there's no getting through to you... lol But i really encourage you to reflect on your philosophy about these things, and life in general. That philosophy you go by, as many others do, is really quite simplistic and unrealistic. And it's actually reather harmful. It encourages laziness, and it discourages QUALITY and even introspection... If they just react, based on ignorance, saying they liked or disliked a film or whatever... without really EXAMINING their feelings, and why they think a certain way... if that is accepted, then that will generally lead to "poor taste", lack of personal growth, etc... It encourages shitty films like "joe dirt", and "Aliens vs. Predator" to be made. Films with NO ARTISTIC MERIT WHATSOEVER. THAT, my friend, is just a shame. If people demanded BETTER, than we would get BETTER. Got it? Anyway, getting to philosophical i think... time for bed lol

  • July 9, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST

    and i actually agree with your last post

    by That_Girl_From_The_Lowes_Commercials_GARGANTUAN_FOREHEAD

    about "you're a moron because you like/dont like such and such"... I can't stand that either. But what we're doing in THIS situation with capone isn't as simplistic as that... i think we really have an argument here... it's THAT obvious lol Anyway, i'm out ;-)

  • July 9, 2010, 9:14 a.m. CST

    over-analyzing capone's use of "dead space"

    by son_of_ebert

    dead space

  • July 9, 2010, 9:17 a.m. CST


    by Bouncy X

    its friday, everyone's probably just tired. and i'm not sure about their neck of the woods but the heat and humidty isnt helping. :p

  • July 9, 2010, 9:25 a.m. CST

    I enjoyed Desipicable Me more then Toy Story3

    by The Founder

    I did. I agree the movie was fun. Yeah it's predictable but it's the tried and true formula that works and some studios get right. Not to knock TS3 but lord knows it's the same situation each film. How many times must they rehash the same plot about unwanted toys, despite that it's still a well made and good animated film.

  • July 9, 2010, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Predator is a damn fine movie

    by freerangecelt

    and probably Arnold's best film. I can't see any dead space either. Arnold goes from modern black-ops soldier to primal man in the space of a few moments, just him, the jungle, and the thing hunting him. R.E. Howard could have written that sequence. I guess nowadays we have to have all our films tied up quickly, and keep an extra character around to talk to or for exposition. I'll keep Predator exactly the way it is, thanks.

  • July 9, 2010, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Jesse spitting tobacco at Weathers

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    instead of the Predator. There's your dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Predator removing bullet instead of sucking it up

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    There's your dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Arnold shaking hand with Weathers

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    instead of ripping it off then and there and saving the Predator the trouble. There's your dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 9:41 a.m. CST

    The team pulling up the log instead of

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Arnold lifting it himself. There's you dead space.

  • July 9, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    RE: So which old TV episode did "Predators" rip off?

    by Crimson Dynamo

    The episode of Gilligan's Island where Jonathan Kincaid is hunting Gilligan for sport

  • July 9, 2010, 9:58 a.m. CST

    If the predator killed Arnie would you be ok with it?

    by leo54304

    I think it would have been interesting twist. Arnie was in his prime (physically and in popularity) and to have him die in hand to hand combat would have been a shocker.

  • July 9, 2010, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Too bad Jesse died so early in the movie

    by leo54304

    would have been fun to see him lose it like Duke did.

  • July 9, 2010, 10:05 a.m. CST

    True, but at least we saw him again in

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Running Man.

  • July 9, 2010, 10:23 a.m. CST

    I liked the acting Jesse did in Running Man

    by leo54304

    Played a fighter who saw the "sport" he fought in corrupted by suits and refused to play the game they wanted it to be played.

  • July 9, 2010, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Yeah, Cap's wrong...

    by Billyeveryteen

    Not sure if he actually watched Predator, or left it on while he did other things(he so busy, you know).<p>Still it's pretty stupid. I remember enjoying the modern Dirty Dozen, then some whacked out alien, righteously fucks them up.

  • July 9, 2010, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Ned Beatty was offered a role in Predators

    by leo54304

    But once he found out it involved a forest, piglike creatures and being stalked, he said no.

  • July 9, 2010, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Is... Despicable Me... funny?

    by daggor

    The ads don't tell me it is. "Not FART gun!" and "Itty bitty toilet (Yikes It's squirting me!)" do not suggest it's funny. Kids seem to have picked up on the "It's so fluffy!' line, which is cute. But... is that the best it has to offer?

  • July 9, 2010, 11 a.m. CST

    Dead Space..

    by Bloo

    really!?! I'm amazed and know not what to say. Predator is a classic of suspense and tension by just giving us hints and glimpses at the Predator but never really showing us what we're dealing with.

  • July 9, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Original director of Predator was available

    by leo54304

    John McTiernan, why didn't they choose him? Think he would have enjoyed chance to do another one.

  • July 9, 2010, 11:20 a.m. CST

    If Lee Marvin was still alive

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    when they filmed Predator (I don't think he was) I would have liked to see him have a cameo as the general. That's not dead space is it Capone?

  • July 9, 2010, 11:21 a.m. CST

    leo54304, ha good stuff.

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Funny thing is as a kid my first taste of Ned Beatty like most my age was Superman. I figured he was this Otis-goofball until I grew up. Bolander, nuff said.

  • July 9, 2010, 11:38 a.m. CST

    I hope Capone answers...

    by catlettuce4

    I really want to know where he saw the dead space. By the way, anyone ever see an old Marc Singer B-movie called Dead Space? If you haven't, don't, it's terrible. Oh, and another thing... if Rodriguez was such a big fan of the original Predator, why didn't he ask Shane Black back to help write? I'm certain that's what gave us all the great dialogue we remember from Predator.

  • July 9, 2010, 11:55 a.m. CST

    If he doesn't then the "dead space"

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    is between his legs.

  • July 9, 2010, 11:59 a.m. CST

    and leo54304 I agree with you on Jesse in

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    The Running Man. He didn't need to die or anything to make his point. He just had to fight. The swallowing the alka-seltzer while looking at the old posters says it all.

  • July 9, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST

    predators is shit, really really icky wet shit.

    by JackGraham

    rodriguez and Nimrod, you're offically hacks. go fuck yourselves. you've failed to make a great, even good predator movie, no wonder fox havent gone full steam ahead with the marketing campaign, their saving their money. i love predator and i wanted to at least like this. i didnt, and i drove 20 miles back home really fucking grumpy as a result, and i argued with my Girlfriend who says she quite liked it. my girl liked it more than me. thats how fucked up your film is. one jungle, 8 heroes and predators, how can you fuck this up? ive got no idea but i know you did. it was like watching an episode of Lost!!! Arnie will be laughing, glover will be laughing. i'm just pissed.

  • July 9, 2010, 12:53 p.m. CST


    by Phildo

    Predator is a fucking masterpiece!

  • July 9, 2010, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Alka Selzter scene in Running Man hits home

    by leo54304

    now that I think about it and the Predators movie. If it turns out bad, I'll think about the original and the franchise is now (In suits hands)and pull a Jesse. But going in with open mind and hope for best. Thanks grammaton.

  • July 9, 2010, 1:02 p.m. CST

    I have Running Man on old school VHS

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    I should pop it in this weekend.

  • July 9, 2010, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Lee Marvin perfect merc type

    by leo54304

    Tough, intimidating, cool and if you got on his bad side look out. Just about any of his movies are good ones except Paint your wagon. Too bad physically he couldn't do a Predator type movie. He'd be perfect as a merc. You're right grammaton, it'd would have been a great cameo as the general at the end of Predator. Or Sam Elliott, another tough guy I like.

  • July 9, 2010, 1:42 p.m. CST

    If they used tough guys from 60s in Predators

    by leo54304

    and they made the movie back then with todays technology, heres the the guys I'd chose: Lee Marvin, Jim Brown, Ernest Borgnine, Steve McQueen, Clint Eastwood, Telly Salvalas or Yul Brenner. Throw in for a chick Racquel Welch cuz well, shes Racquel Welch and her in a hot,steamy jungle cooling off under a waterfall even the predator would stop and enjoy the view . Am I leaving some out? Sure but couldn't include everyone, I went with guys that could handle the physical stuff like John Wayne. Sorry Duke. Be fun to Savalas play a psycho like he did in the Dirty Dozen. He was great as Big Joe in KELLYS HEROES-BUY THE DVD. Borgnine could do a sadistic guard in his sleep. Hey, I can dream can't I?

  • July 9, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    SHAME does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    CAPONE'S WEEK OF SHAME.<p> Monday - 'I'll gladly forget PREDATOR 2'<p> Wednesday - Shows amazement that a Predator might be able to mimic a human voice. Wtf?<p> Friday - Sees the original PREDATOR (probably) for the first time. Declares it full of 'dead space'.<p> What. A. Joke.

  • July 9, 2010, 4:02 p.m. CST

    i like the 60's guy storyline


    and the reason why raquel welch would have been dropped on the planet with them would be to distract the men and keep them in-fighting to make the Predator's hunt a little more fun.

  • July 9, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Saw original Predator in theater...had no idea...

    by Darth Macchio

    ..what I was in for. Since then, I've seen it hundreds if not thousands of times and yet I can still watch it like I can still listen to favorite songs. It simply is one of the most, if not the most, re-watchable film in all of cinema.<p>I think only perspective or outright dislike of the 'sci-fi' or 'action' genre is the only way you can have, for the most part, "valid" negative opinions about Predator.<p>While I'm not a reviewer nor a filmmaker (writing and music for me, please) I'd have to disagree about as much as humanly possible that Predator has any "dead space".<p>My brother and I practically shit ourselves with the sheer fucking beauty of Predator onscreen.<p>What is a valid critique? Maybe that it's a bit too "good guys never miss, bad guys can't shoot for shit" when they attack the guerilla camp. The "stick around" one liner has a slight cheese to it...and it just seems like there's hundreds of guerilla fighters standing around waiting to get shot at...but this is like 3 minutes worth of film of madhouse action and it's not even over the top. Not to mention if you're paying attention up to that point, it's a plain old vengeance ass whooping without equal. Arnie even says it earlier, "We're a rescue team. Not assassins." so it makes it all the more satisfying when they totally fucking kill everybody at that camp! (I just cringe at one-liners; once upon a time, lines of script *became* one-liners where, now, screenwriters specifically write them in for effect...that's stupid to me).<p>But that whole scene could only ever be considered cheesey or sucking it if that was the whole movie and there wasn't anything else. If they skipped the begining and end and just had the camp-attack scene. It's almost as if there's a few minutes of the best parts of "Commando" in that scene...whereas the rest of the movie is about as perfect as an action movie can get. Perfectly paced and shot. Scenes perfectly written and directed. Acting good across the board (McTiernan manages to pull good performances out of not very talented actors..not unlike Millius a few years earlier with Arnie in 'Conan the Barbarian').<p>I think if Capone actually believes there is dead-space in this movie, it can only be the guerilla camp attack scene as while, to me, its not at all boring or stupid, is the most conventional scene in the entire movie insofar as action movies go.<p>Perhaps that is this mysterious "dead space" of which people speak?<p>And, for the love of God...can we get a good quality Blu of Predator!?!?!?!? Of all the Blus I want, this is the most important and I'd like to have something that isn't marginally better than the SD-dvd nor do I want the waxen-skin of hyper-DNR processing!! Why it is not enough or too much!?!?!?! Ever hear of the middle! You know, the best part of of a jelley donut? The place you want to be if Olga Kuryenko and Elizabeth Banks decide to have a 3 way?

  • July 9, 2010, 4:46 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Darth Macchio, preach brother preach.<p> Capone - you're a pussy for not explaining your 'dead space' case. Total cowardly bottle job.

  • July 9, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Darth Macchio

    by slone13

    <p>"It simply is one of the most, if not the most, re-watchable film in all of cinema." A-fucking-men brother.</p> <p>My Dad took me to see this opening day the summer of 87. I was 14 and we had a blast. Still to this day one of my favorite father-son memories.</p>

  • July 9, 2010, 6:07 p.m. CST

    I warped my VHS


    i was making a predator costume one year for halloween, and i watched and rewatched predator 1 and 2 so much that my VHS copies began to get all kinds of funky every time the predator was on screen in detail, from the constant pausing, rewinding, etc.... The beauty of predator 1 was they only showed the predator itself in relatively fast, cropped, close shots. beautiful details of the skull necklace, the spotting on the skin, the dreadlocks and beadery, glimpses of his was such a cocktease...but i loved every second of it. Nothing beats the reveal when he finally removes his mask and his mouth opens up. that's the mystery and magic that no other predator sequel will be able to duplicate, unfortunately. I would say the total design was stan winston's crowning achievement, even better than the alien queen, for sheer attention to detail and realism.

  • July 9, 2010, 6:08 p.m. CST

    dead space?


    maybe the awesome silence after ol' painless runs out of bullets and the jungle is destroyed?

  • July 9, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST

    'fast cropped shots'


    i take that back, by today's standards the predator tease shots were all pretty lengthy and clear- they just were never long ENOUGH, which left you wanting to see so much more of the creature. McT certainly knew how to pull you in, show you JUST enough- like Scott did in the original ALIEN.

  • July 9, 2010, 6:20 p.m. CST

    predators vs cowboys


    part 3 should in the old west- cowboys vs predators and some indian/mexican mythos would be awesome....and since we know predators have been doing this for centuries (at least) we have all of time to tell stories.

  • July 9, 2010, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Predators/Despicable Me

    by DefyThis

    Predators, I thought, was fine. Had more to say on it in Massa's thread. I liked it, and oddly, my biggest complaint was something Capone enjoyed - Fishburne. <p> As for Despicable Me... this movie will be #1 at the box office this weekend based on the turnout I saw today. A billion kids with their stay-at-home moms. Also, a lot of older single/dating folks I know seem interested in it, because they like the "bad guy" angle.

  • July 9, 2010, 6:38 p.m. CST

    zombot, remember the line:always leave em wanting more

    by leo54304

    and thats what the first movie did as you noted. Even the promo poster showed Arnie in the crosshairs of what(?) to tease us.

  • July 9, 2010, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Pedator vs Raptors

    by leo54304

    Lone predator crashes in prehistoric earth. Wounded and with only his javelin, claws and discus he must survive an alien world just as dangerous as he. Picking up his blood trail are a pack of raptors eager to taste the flesh of a new type of prey. The hunt is on.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST

    The Doc and Con

    by BeastOfGevaudan

    I felt both characters were useless. Neither did much and serial killers don't really work on the same levels as gangsters and soldiers, in my opinion. Walter Goggins should've been something like a bail bondsman, they could've kept the white trash aspects with that. And Topher Grace's twist at the end was stupid, I was thinking he would turn out to be a slave of the Predators, there either to help track the humans or keep them alive so the hunt is more difficult.

  • July 9, 2010, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Doc and Con pt 2

    by leo54304

    Beast is right about serial killers not working out in a movie like this. To survive they need to be loners and not trust anyone. And on this world to survive trust is essential. A better choice would have been a survivalist from the deep south hunted by the govt after killing some feds who came on his property. His idea of doc as someone working for the predators I liked and would have been better than what they came up with. Topher Grace I'll always dislike anyway. Better choice for a doc would have been the actor who played scarecrow from Batman Begins. Don't remember his name. Sorry.

  • July 9, 2010, 9:10 p.m. CST

    I bet Capone also hated Sergio Leone's movies

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    Because of all that "Dead space" of people just staring and no one saying anything too much of people just wandering around etc. Idiot.

  • July 10, 2010, 12:15 a.m. CST

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  • July 10, 2010, 4:22 a.m. CST

    It's So Fluffy!!!!

    by roypar

    Wow, can you people be any more out of touch or what. Only two positive responses for Despicable Me. This movie is going to make over 60 million this weekend, and no, it wasn't the minions that created a huge buzz for the movie it was that little girls tagline. The first time I heard it, I laughed my ass off and knew the movie was going to be big. The trailer hit the right note with kids and their parents. I swear sometimes these talkbacks really do seem like it's only populated with teenage boys and 40 year old virgin geeks.

  • July 10, 2010, 5:14 a.m. CST

    the scene-stealing Walton Goggins

    by HeisenbergsBlueSky

    he stole that fucking movie he got the biggest laughs out of the audience.i thought that was the worst role of fishburnes career and i'm a huge fan of his deep cover is in my top 25 films.but it was pointless and embarassing his role and acting.this being arizona trejo's spanish cursing got lots of laughs.if i was to rate it i'd give a 6.5/10.watching the original this week took me right back to being 7 and grandma taking me to see this. with some relatives who were from out of town.they were concerned about me seeing it due to my age.grandma said hell no he loves Schwarzenegger movies.was i the only kid who ran around my grandma's house in a conan sheild with a sword and a spaghetti strainer on my head

  • July 10, 2010, 7:12 a.m. CST

    Jim Brown doing the 50 yard dash with Predator bombs

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Dirty Dozen vs. Nazi Predators. Hell yeah. Oh wait, prison interviews equal dead space. Bad idea.

  • July 10, 2010, 7:14 a.m. CST

    I think we need to get a petition going for a

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    re-release of Predator on the big screen. At least Harry could have a party in Austin. Arnold and Jesse can come. Capone can get on his knees and beg for forgiveness.

  • July 10, 2010, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Dirty dozen interviews

    by leo54304

    quickly got you up to speed on each of the characters using their own words. Plus Lee Marvin assessing each one of them w/o them knowing it. Fucking brillant. Screw predators think I'll watch Dirty Dozen again. God, so many great scenes in that movie.

  • July 10, 2010, 8:29 a.m. CST

    The original Predator has a very specific pacing...

    by tailhook

    and was rather deliberate in its setup.. something you don't see in movies today, especially this most current one. Critical reviewers, some might call them idiots, might interpret this as 'dead space'. It took time to tell its story, I guess every AICN reviewer has a childhood injury, Capone's is ADD.

  • July 10, 2010, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Walton Goggins

    by tailhook

    I like the guy.. but man is his acting range small.

  • July 10, 2010, 8:36 a.m. CST

    What did you see Sgt?

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    I saw the major attacked and forced to defend himself SIR.

  • July 10, 2010, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Jim Brown with Billys knife charging at Predator

    by leo54304

    dodging Preds blasters as ground around Jim gets chopped up but jim keeps coming. Barrels into predator, knocking him over. Pinning the predator to the ground, Jim raises knife into air and stakes it deep into predators chest.

  • July 10, 2010, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Between The Shield, Justified, this, and

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    playing a killer on CSI you'd think so, but he did a decent job years ago playing Almanzo Wilder in the Little House remake.

  • July 10, 2010, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Lee Marvin could todays mgt a thing or two

    by leo54304

    Remember how Marvin told the guys how hard they were working and deserved a reward? Then he opens the door and in come hookers along with some bottles of booze. Talk about an original incentive plan.

  • July 10, 2010, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Simple Math: Dirty Dozen + Magnificent Seven

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    + Clint + The Duke = The original old school badasses.

  • July 10, 2010, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Libary DVD sale: Dirty Dozen for $3

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Sold suckers.

  • July 10, 2010, 9:03 a.m. CST

    So many scenes and greatness in DD

    by leo54304

    The "What did you see sgt?", the bathroom fight, the ugly hookers, Jim Browns death, the prison interviews, the mess hall fight where everybody piles on Jim Brown, the training exercise segment, Telly Savalas just being plain crazy the whole movie,Lee Marvins FU attitude toward the chain of command, Ernest Borgnine, Robert Ryan as the asshole officer, Donald Sutherland the dimwitted one, John Cassavettes as Franko, Richard Jaekel as the sgt (He killed in that role). Now thats a movie with action, character development (Or dead space as some would call it). That movie was pretty violent for its time. I mean trapping those germans in the tunnels and pouring gasoline on them is pretty nasty. And Savalas wanting to kill the german girl is still scary.

  • July 10, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST

    You forgot the war games where they evade

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    live rounds in a game just to get to their objective. Pure badass.

  • July 10, 2010, 9:09 a.m. CST

    This is why Quint's AMAD was the golden age

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    of reviews. He would cover all levels and genres. Capone is the court jester while Quint is the king.

  • July 10, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST

    And when they stick to that jerk Ryan

    by leo54304

    by capturing him in his war game HQ. Genius!! Was on and they a movie poster for DD, gotta see if I can get it. Someone posted "Now that is what I call 12 angry men" funny!!

  • July 10, 2010, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Plus there was nostalgia in Small Soldier

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Jim Brown as Butch Meathook et al.

  • July 10, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    no shit Kilik?!

    by leo54304

    I can imagine the military doing that after all if you get convicted of something and don't wnat to do prison time join the military. And in war, why waste a good soldier in prison when he can be on the battlefield.

  • July 10, 2010, 9:34 a.m. CST

    The gentleman from the south had a question

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    regarding seating. They're discussing place settings now.

  • July 10, 2010, 9:36 a.m. CST

    That "niggahs" comment fit the character

    by leo54304

    a southern redneck racist played by Savalas and fit the attitude at the time of America. But ain't no way that'd be in todays movies. Didn't use stunts? hmmm I think back then for simple roughhousing like that and these guys being tough guys that the stuntguys were told to take a coffee break.

  • July 10, 2010, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Those hookers in the movie were uggggly

    by leo54304

    Reminds of days back in Army. Just got done with basic and doing AIT (Advanced Individual Training). After dismissal were free for rest of night unless on guard duty. But could go to enlisted bar which had a corner strip pole. The gals they had there were ugggly. They had stretch marks, c-section scars, missing teeth, saggy tits, asses big enough you could stick your arm into, to find her wet spot you'd need 2 flour bags. These gals made Kirstey Ally look hot. Man, still can't those gals out of my head and its been like about 20 years.

  • July 10, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Just checked the image out Kilik,

    by leo54304

    Wow!! Imagine the nazis reaction to seeing that warpaint. I mean the germans back then only had some b/w movies from before the war showing indians with warpaint. Then seeing it on the battlefield, whoa. Cool article thanks. Gotta get that 2 disc version of DD now.

  • July 10, 2010, 2:33 p.m. CST

    This has got to stop...

    by dacanesta

    I had a big rant in my head but now i cant be bothered....but i suppose thats the problem. If someone could be bothered we could start some sort of 'stop making shit films please' movement. Im really tired of it now. Its not a fad, and could in fact get worse. I actually screamed at the screen after this film (im in small town america at the moment so it was only in front of a few people so im not that insane).....i dont fully remember but i think i was shouting something about taking me back to the 80s because ive had enough of this rubbish. My friend said after 'well what did you expect?', and i thought that myself when i realised after 30 minutes or so that i wasnt enjoying it, but then i got angry: why cant i expect a good sequel to a fantastic film? We're starting to accept it is the worst thing. I say 'we' but i guess i mean people who dont come on websites like this. There were 4 guys in front of me and they were on their iphones most of the way through, and im not saying this as a mark of how interesting the film was, im saying it as a mark of todays attention spans. People have to do 2/3 things at once....we might as well start putting 2 normal paced movies on side by side, that might help the easily distracted. Anyway.....I didnt like predators but its unfair to use this movie to make this point coz there are far worse. But man......blockbusters USED to have brains too.....Back to the Future, Jaws, Star Wars, Raiders, Ghostbusters.....i know im using lots of 80s movies but theyre kind of my frame of reference. I honestly cant think of a really smart, CLASSIC blockbuster movie from the past decade, one where you say to someone 'have you seen such and such? YOU HAVENT! OH MY GOD!!!'. Imagine doing that with Predators in 20 years as i do with the original? Why dont people try and make outstanding films any more , as opposed to 'just getting the job done' type films? Im sure The Matrix was the last good blockbuster....and that was 1999. Im sure im forgetting one but then i shouldnt be should i? Please, someone else tell me theyve had enough and we can meet outside some major studios and protest! Im absolutely sick of this and where we're heading. Ill get off my high horse now....

  • July 10, 2010, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Goggins might not have a lot of range

    by liljuniorbrown

    But he's fucking golden in my book. Boyd Crowder is this shit! Fishburne doesn't have a lot of range either....come to think of it neither does Topher Grace (whiny nerd) or Danny Trejo (mexican bad ass). And i'm still going to pay to see this movie. Why? cause just like A TEAM it looks like some shit I would watch and have a good time doing so.

  • July 10, 2010, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Its ok, dacanesta this generation

    by leo54304

    as you mentioned is just so ADS, not all of course but theres no shortage of them. And if the audience Hollywood wants and can make the most profit from doesn't care about plot/characters/etc, why worry about it? If boys just want things that go boom and TA w/o anything meaty with it why put it in a movie? I like stuff like that too but not all the time. For girls, I'll just say "Twilight". You mentioned "Matrix", put its original release this year and we'll go crazy over it but most of the teens probally would have hard time getting it.

  • July 10, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST


    by dacanesta

    I agree with everything you say....but how scary is that?!?!? Today is my 1 non-cynical day of the week and im gonna say 'maybe we dont give people enough credit'.....maybe shove a movie with plot, characters etc in front of said audience and maybe they WILL go for it. I wont be thinking this tomorrow....ill be back to thinking 'fuck it.....and fuck everyone'.

  • July 10, 2010, 4:23 p.m. CST

    At least we got to see

    by leo54304

    those classics the way they should be seen:on the big screen, with a big audience getting just as much a kick out of it as us. They may take our moeny, they may remake our classics but they'll never take our memories!! Bad imitation of Mel Gibson. Just trying to cheer you up.

  • July 10, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    it cheered me up .......

    by JackGraham

    but if you wanna immitate mel gibson try threatening a lady with violence, preferably one with a child.

  • July 10, 2010, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Ouch JackGraham!! but don't forget

    by leo54304

    "Ransom". Mels classic line: Gimme back my son!! Jim Rome will sometimes play that clip in quick succession like a machinegun making it very funny.

  • July 10, 2010, 5:40 p.m. CST

    just heard Mel Gibsons tel rant on ...

    by JackGraham

    ohhhh boy. the man just keeps digging a hole for himself. in fairness to mel it is a private conversation between two ppl going through a break up, but still, Mel does not come off as a good guy in this.

  • July 10, 2010, 7:21 p.m. CST

    And still no word from Capone.

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks


  • July 10, 2010, 7:56 p.m. CST

    leo54304, don't go all PC. He was racist and he

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    used the word nigger. Spike Lee uses it. Quentin Tarantino uses it. Even Mel Brooks used it. Blazing Saddles is a classic. I'm not saying it's not racist. I'm not advocating calling blacks niggers. I'm just saying don't change history because the PC police think this word is too bad to utter. If so why not blacklist (no pun nor racism intended, this is a real word) all the rappers who use it. I'm glad Maggot got a beat down from Jefferson for calling him a nigger. Furthermore he got his in the end.

  • July 10, 2010, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Capone you are an idiot.....dead space

    by Waka_Flocka

    what a joke.

  • July 10, 2010, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Grammaton-I think the word nigger

    by leo54304

    is a part of our cultural history for both black and white. It still does when making movies which we're discussing. Savalas' had to use that word because it was part of upbringing. If they used some weaker term to describe how he felt about blacks would be a cop out. Now I think studios are more cautious when making mainstream movies and try not to use the word nigger. Independent and non blockbuster movie have more leeway with this word for example because not as much money is riding on the success of their movie. I remember Chris Rocks rant on niggers for his special Bring on the Pain. Was an honest and humorous view of one man and his race. Buy it, its got a lot of funny stuff. Last, first time I heard the word "nigger" was Blazing Saddles which my folks took me to when I was in like 2d grade. Didn't know what it meant at the time but once I did and saw the movie, laughed my ass off. Mel did it in such a way that it didn't offend anyone. Helped that rednecks in movie were idiots and the blacks weren't.

  • July 10, 2010, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Yoooooooooooooooou Son of a Bitch!

    by DigitalBeachWar

    What's the matter? The CIA got you pushing too many pencils?

  • July 11, 2010, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Exactly, and the black actor was the one using

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    it most of the time. Cleavon Little made the white folks look like a bunch of morons. The thing is though everything Chris Rock said is the truth. But, if a white dude said that he'd be ostracized.

  • July 11, 2010, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Darn, out of the top ten. Now this talkback will

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    fade away, and Capone hopes with it will go his ridiculous coments.

  • July 11, 2010, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Chris Rocks CD did a bit on a white guy

    by leo54304

    saying the nigger word and it played just like you said Grammaton. White guy said it after hearing black guys in the crowd he was in and did he get in trouble. Chris Rock said the truth on that one as your mentioned. He tells the truth a lot and most of it is aimed at his own race. Not because he does it just for laughs but because he wants his race to do better. Thats why he cracks on the deadbeat dads, people who quit school or shoot guns in clubs because he hates them. They're the ones that give the hard working blacks the bad rep. Keep it up Chris, you're a good man who cares.

  • July 11, 2010, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Yeah Chris was bashing on guys bragging that

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    they haven't been in jail, and he was like you're not supposed to be in jail dummy. I believe his exact words were "nigger want a cookie." referring to that fact you're nothing special if you don't go to jail.

  • July 12, 2010, 6:56 a.m. CST

    you aint supposed to go to jail, dumb MF!!

    by leo54304

    Chris is good when on the stage and having a live audience to work off of. Too bad his material isn't as good onscreen that he has to work with.

  • July 12, 2010, 9:54 a.m. CST

    True he's a better stage performer than on the

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    big screen.

  • July 12, 2010, 9:54 p.m. CST


    by MainMan2001

    the new movie is bad. C'mon, let's face it. The first 20mins were cool. the opening and everything but it lost it's appeal after that. And why was everything taken from Aliens and the original predator movie? Did anyone notice that?

  • July 12, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST


    by MainMan2001

  • July 13, 2010, 2:05 a.m. CST


    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    i think a case can be made that AVP might actually be better than Predators which is just bungshit wacky.

  • July 13, 2010, 12:58 p.m. CST

    i dont accept that its ok for kids films to be predictable.

    by Obscura

    using the "its just for kids" excuse for lack of good filmmaking is no goo.d Do you think Pixar make incredible films time after time by just saying "its ok its only for kids" everytime they're feeling lazy?

  • July 14, 2010, 1:21 a.m. CST

    To catch a Predator

    by Tikidonkeypunch

    My first memory was in 1st grade. On a rainy morning we all had to stay in the cafeteria as opposed to playing in the rain. All we had was a little tv, 30 inches at most. Playing was one of the most badass action flicks of all time. As for Capone, only one thing left to say "that's a real nasty habit you got there"