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Capone sets his sights on PREDATORS director Nimrod Antal!!!

Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here. Director Nimrod Antal has made a small handful of great films that very few people have seen, and that's a shame. I feel confident that's about to change with the release this Friday of the Robert Rodriguez-produced PREDATORS, a film Rodriguez considers the true and proper sequel to the 1987 PREDATOR (in other words, you can forget PREDATOR 2 and the ALIEN VS. PREDATOR movies. I'm guessing most of you will do so gladly. Antal was born in Los Angeles, but spent many of his formative years in his parents native Hungary, where he went to film school and made his first movie KONTROL, which I have a vivid memory of seeing at the Chicago Film Festival in 2003, where it won the top prize Golden Hugo. His first American film was the suitably creepy VACANCY, followed by two years later by ARMORED, a film that mistakingly held from critical eyes before its release--a shame since I would have heaped a great deal of praise upon it if they'd shown it to us. But thankfully PREDATORS is previewing for critics (although as of this writing, I haven't seen it yet). I sat down with Antal last March at the SXSW Film Festival to discuss PREDATORS, clips of which had been shown to select attendees the night before at a special opening night event. Antal had a really terrible chest cold for his time at the festival, but he carried on like a trooper. Hey, if the guys in his latest movie can take on a planet filled with Predator creatures, Antal can risk getting bronchitis or pneumonia. He's an absolutely great guy and a full-fledged, long-time film geek who has a deep affection for John McTiernan's original work. His work ethic on PREDATORS seems to bet that if he could do any effect shot practically, he would. You have to love that. Please enjoy Nimrod Antal, and look for my exclusive sit down with Rodriguez (conducted the following day) very soon.
Capone: The first script that you saw for this was Robert [Rodriguez]’s original script? He said last night you worked very closely with the other writers [Alex Litvak & Michael Finch]. Tell me what you liked about Robert's script, and what about it you thought, “Well, I have another idea for that.” Nimrod Antal: Yeah. He immediately established a lot of great key points that we kept, and we stayed faithful too and his script had introduced this wonderful concept of this safari planet, which I thought immediately was intriguing, introducing the other set of tribes--another set of predators--was again something very special. And then the whole MOST DANGEROUS GAME tone that was in place of hunters being hunted by something, by a hunter, that again was something that was very appealing, so those were all elements that were the core of what we started to work off of, and I think my job at that point was really just to streamline the script. The script he had written was written 15 years earlier, if not more, so a lot of the elements and a lot of the beats had been done since or incorporated in a similar fashion or familiar things have been done since, you know. So we wanted to make sure it was still fresh and again it was finding a balance of appeasing the original fans with respect to what had worked in the original, but at the same time interjecting something new that would expand the mythology even further. Capone: On a project like this, you are “under the geek microscope” as it were. They are really paying attention, and I think for the most part--maybe because of Robert’s involvement--there doesn’t seem to be as much pushback as some reboots or sequels. Are you aware of that? Are you acutely aware? Look at how many people show up to an event just to show a trailer and one scene. NA: Yes, I’m very aware of them, because I am one of them. I was one of the kids in my school who would ditch school to go see the BACK TO THE FUTURE marathon, you know, so I am completely aware and I am one of them. So I think I put more pressure on myself than any online forum good put on me. Capone: If there was ever a question of which direction to go, did you just trust that teenager in your head? NA: I did, and it’s interesting that you should say that, because it was that teenager who responded to the original film and it was the teenager in me that would keep on reminding me, “No. That ain’t going to work.” Capone: Tell me, I love that idea that you guys were talking about last night about this new tribe of predators and how maybe more so than the predator we know, the look of each new creature is a representation of the ability and the skill set. Can you talk a little bit about what you came up with? Maybe give me an example, without giving too much away, of how you did that? NA: Well, if I could approach it from a different angle… Capone: Sure. NA: A lot of the trophies and a lot of the things they wore on themselves even in the original film was just taken to another level, just expanded where now it’s almost being implemented into their armor. As far as the actual styles, I’m a little bit apprehensive to do so, because I’m worried that I’m revealing too much you know. I’m sorry if I…I’m not trying to be elusive in anyway. Capone: Just go ahead. I'm sure Robert wouldn’t care! [Both Laugh] NA: I think Fox would, though. [Laughs] Everything about their look, there was a streamline look to the new predators, but at the same time it was about finding that balance, and it was this balance that we struggled with and were conscious of from the get go, and that is if you take it too far, it’s no longer a predator. If you don’t take it far enough, then you haven’t improved upon it in any way, you know? There was definitely that struggle of trying to figure out what worked and what didn’t, but, for instance, one of the predators has a singular long blade and that is implemented in the film for a specific reason, and as they are trying to train themselves to be better killers, they implement things that they see from us. There’s a great sword moment in the film that is just absolutely mind-blowing. Capone: I also like the idea that it’s not just humans that have been brought to the safari planet. I don’t remember hearing that before yesterday. NA: Yes, there are multiple species, because it ain’t just the predators and us, there’s a whole universe of other weirdness out there. Capone: But you have actually added all of this extra design work on those poor guys with such a tight window. It basically took you all a year to do this entire movie. Did you think that actually helped in a lot of ways, that pressure? NA: It did and it’s very intuitive of you to say that, because that madness of trying to prepare this film in the time that we were given--it could have been done; it was just a question of doing it elegantly and doing it well.That frenetic energy, that madness, definitely translates to the film, and it’s intangible. It’s not something you could put your finger on, but you can feel it you know and it’s there, so the process in this case certainly did influence the actual final product in a very odd way, but in a way that I think is going to be really cool. Capone: Let me take it another level, you have basically made a film based on instinct; you didn’t have time to second guess a lot of the first choices that you make. The idea of just going and going and relying on your instinct, that seems very much like what we are dealing with in the film's story too--all of these trained people who have these instinctive ways of tracking and killing. NA: You are very perceptive, brother, and like you said, it does translate. Someone asked us "What made the first film great?", and you know, you would bottle that if you knew what made it great, but I think in part it is what translates on the set, those intangible energies. Capone: I love that you’ve now got "your guy" already--you have Lawrence Fishburne believing in you enough to make two films with you. He’s like your good luck charm. It seems like every director’s wish to have this one actor that will always want to work with them--that guy that is going to make the film better, and now you’ve got that. NA: When Laurence and I finished the last movie [ARMORED]…. I generally gather the crew together to give them a farewell and to express my gratitude, and Lawrence has been the only actor who has turned that around on me. I gathered everybody together and I was about to say “Ladies and gentlemen, to work with someone of his caliber and to be such a fan of his is one thing, but…” All of a sudden, he turned it around on me and he started to speak to the crew about me and I was like “Wait wait wait, no no no.” At the end of that day he wrote me a beautifully letter, a little note, and he said, “I can’t wait until we play again.” Capone: You said that when he came on the set for PREDATORS that he referenced that note. NA: He said, “We are playing again!” It was so bitchin’. And being a young guy starting out and just trying to make a name for myself and having someone of his caliber believe in me and be willing to come again and again to play with me is a huge boost of confidence for someone like me, because I am--much like any other artist you are ever going to meet--self-conscious and worried. And you’re level of confidence isn’t always where it has to be or should be, so it’s great. Capone: I love that more and more genre films are getting what you called “real actors.” It’s not about filling a demographic, it’s just about getting the most capable actor, and it really does elevate the material. And if there are places in the script that don’t quite work, they will fill in those gaps. NA: It’s funny. It’s so angering. It really angers me when executives are basing casting decisions on “imdb Star Meter.” [Both laugh] You laugh, but it’s true. For some of them, it’s that simple, and to dismiss talent as the most important quality for an actor is absurd. As a filmmaker, you are only as good as the people you surround yourself with, and I'm sure I could take any reality show start, who I’m sure has an imdb Star Meter right now that’s over the moon. Will they be able to do what Adrien Brody does? Never. So yeah, you really want to be able to surround yourself with actors of that caliber and I was lucky in this regard that so far almost everything I’ve done, I’ve had these really wonderful actors to work with. Capone: Well, ARMORED has a B-movie plot with these terrific actors in it. And forgive me for not remembering his name, but the main actor… NA: Columbus Short. Capone: Yes. I think he actually came to Chicago and I wasn’t in town to interview him, but he is fantastic and I don’t remember seeing him before that film, but I thought he was terrific. NA: He’s going to be huge. He’s very grounded and very smart and very humble, so I think its guys like that you want to work with. Capone: Yeah, you mentioned the one predator's sword, which I assume will be used in some sort of elaborate kill sequence. How much time did you spend coming up with these unbelievable kills and unbelievable ways to die? NA: It’s interesting, some of them we had going into it. When we were writing the script, we had some pretty great ones. We have a nod or two as well, but there was one moment I remember where I turned to the team upstairs at Troublemaker, and I said “Guys, we have a bout two more kills left and we are running out of ideas here. We have got to come up with something that’s going to work and be interesting.” Chris Olivier, one of our designers at Troublemaker, came up with this really fantastic idea. It’s probably going to be one of the most original kills in the film. I can’t give you what it is, because it’s going to ruin it. Capone: Those designs that we saw--and I understand those were from early in the design process--but there were images of eviscerated bodies just ripped, pulled, and hung upside down or pinned up for display. It looks pretty gruesome. NA: It is, and there are some gnarly ones. There are some really gnarly ones in it. Capone: I also like the idea that you've taken the idea from the original--that it’s a group of guys that all have been trained the same way and they all know each other--to this new group and none of them know each other, and they either have to work together or they will be knocked off very quickly. NA: That was one, a challenge initially, and it was also kind of a gift. The challenge of it was when they are referencing films like the original PREDATOR or when they are referencing films like ALIENS, you have a well-oiled machine going into these situations together in all of these films, and there’s a familiarity where these characters are familiar with one another; there’s a short hand. And we didn’t have that luxury with this. We had these strangers thrown into a mix, strangers who would probably kill each other quicker than they would look at each other. So that was an immediate challenge, but it was also I think something fun and interesting and different, because you haven’t really seen this dynamic before. You've generally seen a group that is in tune, whereas this is not a well-oiled machine on any level. Some of them are trying to kill each other upon meeting each other, so it’s interesting. Capone: You told a really funny story about meeting Robert for the first time and how it was completely terrifying. The whole way that he seems very determined to turn the experience of each new film into a film school scenario, I love that approach. And he always seems to want to connect with up-and-coming filmmakers on a certain level. Tell me about meeting him for the first time and what that was like for you. NA: It was intimidating, clearly being a fan of SIN CITY and being a fan of DESPERADO, being a fan of EL MARIACHI, and recognizing what he has achieved as a filmmaker. Having your own studio, your own production, your own soundstages, that’s incredible. That is truly incredible. So that was nerve-racking. Of course, the process gets started and you get to work and you have to take care of business and it was a blessing, because I think being a filmmaker himself, he immediately understood a lot of the nuances that some producers will never understand. A filmmaker need a little freedom. A filmmaker needs to be able to be able to make the material his own. A filmmaker needs room to dance, you know, and he gave me that, and I’m very grateful, because he could have been overbearing. He could have jumped on me and been controlling, and it could have been a suffocating experience, but it wasn’t that. It was quite the opposite. It was very warm. Any time I ran into trouble, I also had the luxury of turning to a master filmmaker if I had any concerns with something, so it was a wonderful dynamic and a great opportunity for me. Capone: Guillermo Del Toro told me about his style of producing. He said, “A good producer is never there when you don’t need them, and always there when you need him.” It’s important, too, for the crew to know who is in charge of the film. NA: Surely and even in our initial conversations, we would talk about that, and I certainly didn’t want to be a figure head; I wanted to do the job that I was hired to do and I wanted to be able to be proud at the end of the day that I directed this film, and he gave me all of that. So I’m grateful to him, and by the way, I wouldn’t be here if wasn’t for him, so I’m very grateful. Capone: Thank you so much. It was great to meet you. NA: Thank you, sir. Capone: Hope we get to talk again. NA: Keep killing it man, I love you guys.
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  • July 5, 2010, 11:05 p.m. CST


    by C3_POsCockoil

  • July 5, 2010, 11:05 p.m. CST


    by C3_POsCockoil

  • July 5, 2010, 11:19 p.m. CST

    It's hard for me to get excited about this...

    by ScaryWaitress

    ...when such horrifyingly bad, bad, BAD shit has already been greenlit under this franchise. I don't trust anyone who's putting money into anything with PREDATORS in it anymore. Not even Lance Henriksen could make this cool. <P> Will wait for Netflix, thank you.

  • July 5, 2010, 11:27 p.m. CST

    2 new positive PREDATORS reviews at Rotten


    "Predators is well paced with a good build up and the right degree of character development you need to care about the fate of the human characters. There are also a few genuine surprises and twists." and "For the most part Predators is B-grade fun in the best possible way." Fun B-grade film in the best possible way? Sign me up!!!

  • July 5, 2010, 11:29 p.m. CST


    by ltgalloway

    Don't loose heart man. Everything I've seen of this film so far looks like its aiming in the right direction. What would have happened if we all gave up on the Batman franchise before Chris Nolan? Not saying this will be the same, but if you don't take chances you'll never allow yourself the opportunity to be surprised, and whats the fun in that?

  • July 5, 2010, 11:30 p.m. CST

    I want to believe, ltgalloway.

    by ScaryWaitress

    It's just so hard... *sniff* after what they made Lance do in AVP...

  • July 5, 2010, 11:33 p.m. CST

    This won't be previewed.

    by RPLocke

    I bet a pizza this doesn't get previewed.

  • July 5, 2010, 11:42 p.m. CST

    this movie could easily be good


    i like that they are on another planet, but would have prefered predator vs desperado.

  • July 5, 2010, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Needs more macho.

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    This should have merged with The Expendables. <BR><BR> Respect to Adrian Brody, but he's no Arnold. Neither was Danny Glover. This movie should have some beef.<BR><BR> We need some badass UFC marines in the movie. The Rock as the main guy. Randy Couture. Yoshihiro Akiyama as the Japanese guy. Gina Carano as the chick. Terry Crews.<BR> Everyone should be huge (literally). <BR><BR> Why would an alien hunter want to hunt skinny little Brody. Who's next, George McFly? Put Brock Lesnar in there!<BR><BR> With that said, I am looking forward to this A LOT, more than AVP:R by a million miles. It looks like they are finally getting back to the basics! Hope its good!

  • July 5, 2010, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Great Interview Capone.

    by Brick_Walker

    Nimrod Antal sounds like a rad dude. I have too much faith in Rob Rodriquez for this to be shit. Can't wait for Thursday.

  • July 6, 2010, 12:10 a.m. CST

    The one real summer movie is this one

    by andrew coleman

    I might just see it three times or better yet pay to see this and sneak into other movies that don't need money. This and Inception give me hope for the summer.

  • July 6, 2010, 1:03 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Lahey

    Looks sweet. I'll be checking it out. Watched the original last night. Also, Predator 2 is a solid movie. The opening is stellar.

  • July 6, 2010, 1:11 a.m. CST

    Casting decisions on star meters? = Fucking IDIOT Hollywood exec

    by mayorofsmpleton

    Are we serious? They want to use the IMDB as a basis to make casting decisions? The people who troll the IMDB are like the subhuman waste that feed on the CHUDs. Seriously, read the forums over there. It's fucking scary. Hollywood is run by moronic businessmen who know nothing about the film industry. What's infuriating is that there ARE businessmen who DO know about the industry... but more often than not it's some underprivileged early 30-late 40's white scum whose knows little to nothing about film but thinks their decisions are gold.

  • July 6, 2010, 1:13 a.m. CST


    by mayorofsmpleton

    "overprivileged" ugh.

  • July 6, 2010, 1:14 a.m. CST

    Predator 2 is underrated awesomeness

    by Kontarsky

    Glover holds his own, which is why I'm not going to jump the gun on Brody with predators. Anyway, Predator 2, is definitely in an 80s action film in spirit and cheese, and it is amazing. If you don't like it, then you must only like Bourne type of action films they make nowadays. I've never seen an AVP film and I never will.For me, Predators is the third Predator film, no matter what Rodriguez is ranting about Preds being the "true sequel." Oh please. If he can stop "Pussyface" "Shit happens" and "Want some candy?" then maybe I'll agree with him.

  • July 6, 2010, 1:15 a.m. CST

    top, not stop^

    by Kontarsky

  • July 6, 2010, 1:25 a.m. CST

    I never understood the hate for Predator 2 either

    by tomdolan04

    It wasn't on par with the first by any means, but it really captured the heat and atmosphere of a jungle city cut loose. <p> Quite a bit of great hammy lines, lotso firepower, crazy druglords, hard bloody action, an OTT (as ever) Gary Busey, Bill Paxton quipping in his heyday form and a likeable protaganist in Glover. <p> Whatever Predators is like, I'd be wary about casting jibes over 2 when it at least TRIED to do something different. All things considered, this just looks like a remake of the first one with a different squad of goons thrown into the meat grinder. I hope I'm proven wrong but I've kinda given up with this franchise.

  • July 6, 2010, 1:27 a.m. CST

    Interview makes it sound even worse.

    by kevred

    So what they're bringing to the table is new tribes of Predators, and some cool kills? And even those were kind of made up as they went along and slapdash? Huh.<p>Well, at least the film's producer considers it the "true" sequel to the original. Someone who had nothing whatsoever to do with the original gives it his stamp of approval, and we're supposed to be impressed?<p>Still waiting to hear or see the first hint of an original idea in this flick. I like the people in the cast, but every single meter is reading 'junk' to me.

  • July 6, 2010, 1:35 a.m. CST

    There is only one true sequel to Predator,

    by kevred

    And it's called Predator 2. Glover, Paxton, Busey, Blades, Conchita Alonso, Davi, Baldwin.

  • July 6, 2010, 1:35 a.m. CST

    adrian brody

    by cloudrider`

    most us marines/special ops guys have brody's body type. if they have arnold's or stallone's muscle it would just get in the their way. it'd be restricting and make them less agile. what is it with americans and huge muscles anyway??? seriously. you want it in the comic books, you want it there in the action movies. <p> those 80s actions heroes are like cartoon characters. thank god we've moved beyond that now, making those muscle bound heroes practically extinct. bruce lee was skinny, and he can drop kick the entire cast of the expendables. skills matter more than muscles.

  • July 6, 2010, 1:37 a.m. CST

    early reviews are out:

    by cloudrider` <p> sure, early reviews are generally kinder, but at least we expect this to be much better than the avp films.

  • July 6, 2010, 1:38 a.m. CST

    i meant, we CAN expect this...

    by cloudrider`

    not to stink as bad. i'm more optimistic now.

  • July 6, 2010, 1:42 a.m. CST

    The guy comes off as a real nimrod

    by BoRock_A_Boomer


  • July 6, 2010, 1:42 a.m. CST

    Box office prediction:

    by kevred

    I see it coming in about 3rd or 4th, behind Despicable Me and Twilight, possibly Toy Story as well, somewhere close to Airbender. It may have more success in its opening week and could open higher, without much dumb-guys-&-girls-date-flick and teenage-group competition. But Inception and Sorcerer's Apprentice should wipe it off most people's radars the following week.

  • July 6, 2010, 1:49 a.m. CST

    Really looking forward to PREDATORS

    by elgato73

    The new TV spots and the international trailer have really sold me. Friday can't get here soon enough. Also, Predator 2 is a helluva film. I remember seeing that when I was still in high school and from the opening gunshot to the last line of dialogue I was utterly hooked. Damn, that is one violent, violent film. It begins with cops being blown to pieces and then goes to drug dealers, more cops, and black ops soldiers and Gary "Fucking" Busey being hunted down and their spines ripped out by the Predator. Fuck YEAH!!! Absolutely badass cinema!

  • July 6, 2010, 1:50 a.m. CST


    by kevred

    You have a point in general, but when it comes to the original Predator, they sort of addressed that already. There were only two big-muscly guys in the film, and the biggest & seemingly baddest was offed right away. The film was smart enough to tell you straight away, "what you think is tough isn't tough here."<p>As for Arnold, well, it's fantasy, and he's the star. And he did have quite a bit of physical difficulty in the final battle, and didn't really win based on brute strength.<p>But you're right - from muscly guys to pixie-ish girls with implausibly super strength, American action cinema does like its absurdities.

  • July 6, 2010, 2:11 a.m. CST

    Why is everyone on twitter talking about back to the future?

    by RPLocke

    and getting the dates wrong. Hey idiots YOU'RE WRONG!! GAHHH!

  • July 6, 2010, 2:17 a.m. CST

    Was thinking Fox decided to quit on this one

    by Bass Ackwards

    Seems like the ad campaign for this film fizzled out a couple weeks ago. Hard to believe it's coming out this Friday. Also, it's not really a shame that only a few people have seen Vacancy.

  • July 6, 2010, 2:41 a.m. CST

    Predator 2 is no Alien 3, at least

    by MattmanReturns

    It's entertaining. It's definitely a B-movie, but it's a lot of fun.

  • July 6, 2010, 2:43 a.m. CST

    John Debney has been promoting this thing like

    by RPLocke

    crazy after Iron Man 2 faded out.

  • July 6, 2010, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Screw Rodriguez and this hack for not recognizing Predator 2!!!

    by Kal Reeve

    Predator 2 is awesome fun and totally underrated.

  • July 6, 2010, 2:59 a.m. CST

    KONTROL is a great film

    by palimpsest

    Well worth checking out if you haven't seen it. And yeah, there's a lot to like about PREDATOR 2; it makes a great double-bill with TOTAL RECALL.

  • July 6, 2010, 3:20 a.m. CST


    by GibsonUSA Returns

    The Rock. Stallone. Brock Lesnar. Terry Crews. <BR><BR> A team of Arnold, Carl Weathers, Jesse Ventura, and that Native American guy (forgot his name) do not make realistic looking marines. (even though Jesse is ex-Navy SEAL)<BR> But it makes for a more impactful visual. All these huge WWF looking guys getting taken down by an literally invisible hunter warrior. The Terminator was not meant to be a huge guy either, but I'm glad he was. It made the good guys looking visually smaller by comparison, representing the power difference.<BR> I don't think people watch these kinds of movies to see normal/realistic people in action.

  • July 6, 2010, 3:22 a.m. CST

    Sonny Landham

    by palimpsest

    He's in a load of Walter Hill movies - THE WARRIORS, 48HRS, SOUTHERN COMFORT...

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  • July 6, 2010, 3:28 a.m. CST

    Kal Reeve

    by liesandpicturesofalsolies

    Yeah but it's still weak compared to the first one. I think you're going to be in the minority on this one.

  • July 6, 2010, 3:31 a.m. CST

    Enough with the Predator 2 hate please

    by Shan

    Just like everyone else defending Predator 2, I agree. It built nicely on the first film with the "urban" jungle counterpoint to the first film, new weapons, a bit more insight into the Predator species and their code of honour - all natural extensions of the first film instead of just a retread. Also, a much larger number of actors who actually had a prior reputation for ... you know ... acting didn't hurt either. All in all, it was fun, something sadly lacking in too many movies today.

  • July 6, 2010, 3:33 a.m. CST

    What's wrong with Predator 2?

    by photoboy

    I still like that film, it's really underrated. I think it's always been stuck with the stigma of not having Arnie in it.

  • July 6, 2010, 3:55 a.m. CST

    Fucking Voodoo magic man!!!!!

    by TheBoyFromUlster

    Predator 2 definitely holds up today, great sequel and very under estimated action film. Great ideas in it and really expands the Predator Universe. Stand out bits for me, the Predator walking through the puddles and all you see the splashes, the flick between the different sights the Predator can see in, when the Gary Busey lead team describes its defences, the Predators new weapons, love it!

  • July 6, 2010, 4 a.m. CST

    ...who the hell would name their kid NIMROD?

    by Mike_D

  • July 6, 2010, 4:09 a.m. CST

    Predator 2 - Naked woman moaning on bed inside window.

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    Thats all I remember.

  • July 6, 2010, 4:12 a.m. CST

    Agreed, Rodriguez shouldn't slight Predator 2

    by American Mythos

    I love that movie. It only enhanced the Predator mythology. Tons of action, and Bill Paxton got killed by yet another iconic sci-fi villian. What's not to love?

  • July 6, 2010, 4:16 a.m. CST

    Looks good, the only thing missing is the Predator 'font'

    by DonLogan

    And predator 2 was feckin' ace.

  • July 6, 2010, 4:24 a.m. CST

    All throughout Predator 2 I asked myself the same question...

    by Han Cholo

    Why the FUCK did they cast Danny Glover? Nigga couldn't kick ass in Lethal Weapon. If they had cast someone like Stallone for the main character it would've been a much better movie. But Murtaugh? Please....

  • July 6, 2010, 4:26 a.m. CST

    F******g Voodoo Magic, Man!

    by MontyPigeon

    I hate the AVP films but Predator 2 is a great action film and a worthy sequel to Predator.

  • July 6, 2010, 4:33 a.m. CST

    Checking this out thursday nignht

    by HeisenbergsBlueSky

    midnight screening.we have a localy owned theater here that shows new flicks and gives awesme deals.$9.21 you get admission soda and popcorn.this looks badass and i like the cast brody,goggins,trejo,and fishburne are all excellent actors.blaze a blunt and enjoy

  • July 6, 2010, 4:35 a.m. CST

    This is dread, man.

    by caruso_stalker217

  • July 6, 2010, 4:40 a.m. CST

    Ah, Predator 2

    by MediaGold

    Came out in the summer of 1990 AKA the season of rasta decapitations: one in Predator 2 and one in Hard to Kill. It's cool when you chop off the noggin of a Rastaman because you can carry the cabasa around by the dredlocks and not get your fingers all messy.

  • July 6, 2010, 4:48 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    Alien 3 is awesome. <p> So is Predator 2.

  • July 6, 2010, 5:14 a.m. CST

    A true and proper sequel?

    by BetterCallSaul

    What a pompous jackass you are Rodriguez. Predator 2 was awesome.

  • July 6, 2010, 5:30 a.m. CST

    Look forward to the samurai battle.

    by Nerd Rage

    It's pretty cool that a predator wants to fight a human samurai style. That's how you pay homage to the original (when the predator fights Dutch hand-to-hand) while being inventive. Needless to say, the AvP movies were total hack jobs.

  • July 6, 2010, 5:46 a.m. CST

    Ah, Predator 2. The memories!

    by Dr_Satan

    It was 1990 and I had just buried most of my family following their 'accident'. My dead step-brother Klaus was still talking to me, even though he was now under the porch. He suggested that I go and watch Predator 2. It was good advice.<p>Everything I wanted in a sequel was here except for Arnold Muscleneggar but Danny Glover was there and so that was okay. He was no Arnold Muscleneggar but Mel Gibson seemed to like him (what a façade!) and so he was alright with me. We had the wonderful Gary Busey doing that thing that Gary Busey does (and that thing which his son would also do) and a whole host of stars. And there was naked women and voodoo and an awesome new Predator who was predator-ing through a city. What a great movie.<p>My only complaint was that there wasn't enough death. I murdered the nice family next door later that week whilst pretending I was the Predator, and it's surprising how alive you feel when you chase people around a house whilst wearing night goggles and shooting a spear gun.<p>- Dr. Satan

  • July 6, 2010, 6 a.m. CST

    Predators bring Grays to Predator Hunt Club Planet...

    by JayLenoTookMyJob

    ... They keep blasting the li'l bastards but since the Grays are a hivemind machine intelligence inhabiting quantum field-generated biotech bodies or "containers", it's like trying to kill the hydra, take one out, two more pop up. Eventually, all the Predators are getting anal probes and being dissected while the Gray hivemind warps their entire solar system into a nearby singularity. Game over.

  • July 6, 2010, 6:08 a.m. CST


    by Electric Sheep

    went to a screening of this last night and was thoroughly disappointed. As a film geek I got all giddy at the idea and had high hopes. Have to say, unwillingly, that this film really sucked in my eyes. Bad dialogue, bad casting for Adrian Brody who did the Batman voice throughout, Cameo from Fishburne was just strange, one of the main characters who is worked into a "Twist" for the end of the film does nothing to tell the story and is so rushed that all drama was sucked out of it, Samurai fight (as mentioned above) didnt deliver, not enough weapons for my liking,Hawaian locations looked like my nearest wood not an alien planet. Guessing it was the promise of bringing this in cheap by doing all effects work etc at Troublemaker that got Fox to sign on the dotted line, not the cumbersome script. Just my opinion and no offense meant dudes..

  • July 6, 2010, 6:08 a.m. CST


    by JayLenoTookMyJob

    ...Yeah, it's like how most fighter pilots are wiry little guys because there's a lot of tech in those cramped cockpits and a big hulking dude couldn't cram himself in there. Also, the military doesn't have time for people to be in the gym all the damn time and you can't bring your personal trainer with you. And yeah... Bruce Lee could've taken out anyone, Predators included.

  • July 6, 2010, 6:09 a.m. CST

    Arnold and Jesse both became Governors.

    by JohnWayneWasGay

    Bill Duke for president.

  • July 6, 2010, 6:20 a.m. CST

    Bill Paxton.The only man to be killed by....

    by JohnWayneWasGay

    A alien,A predator and a terminator.

  • July 6, 2010, 6:21 a.m. CST

    Bill Paxton.The only man to be killed by....

    by JohnWayneWasGay

    A alien,A predator and a terminator.

  • July 6, 2010, 6:28 a.m. CST

    Lance Henriksen

    by Shan

    Ripped in two by an Alien, killed by a Predator and shot by a Terminator. There are arguments that he could also count.

  • July 6, 2010, 6:32 a.m. CST

    Predator 2

    by MRJONZ72

    I dig that movie..shoot I still have it on VHS. No original Predator but much better than the A vs P films.

  • July 6, 2010, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Bill Paxton - I used to associate w/ death

    by MRJONZ72

    I think up until Twister came out..every movie I ever saw him he got killed in except Weird Science.

  • July 6, 2010, 6:37 a.m. CST

    I'm pretty stoked.

    by blackwood

    I like the vibe. I like the four positive reviews on RT, and how they all reference character and atmosphere. I like that I am in no way geekly offended by anything I've seen, and that everything points towards making a badass PREDATOR movie instead of just cashing in on a recognizable brand.<p>I want to see this more than INCEPTION.

  • July 6, 2010, 6:39 a.m. CST

    And PS...

    by blackwood

    Talkback majority opinion is very very right about PREDATOR 2.

  • July 6, 2010, 6:40 a.m. CST

    If you compare Predator 2 to the AvP movies...

    by rbatty024

    then it comes out looking like Citizen Kane. Predator 2 has some great moments (I love the cut to the decapitated head of the Jamaican drug lord), but it also has some terrible acting. It's a mixed bag. Not a masterpiece, but still a fun sequel.

  • July 6, 2010, 6:44 a.m. CST

    What the hell?

    by guardian.452

    I had to dredge up this talkback account for this. Sure Predator 2 was a tier below the original, but still, 2 remains one of my more vivid memories of movies from that period. Mind you, NA doesn't seem to rubbish 2 from what I read. The rubbishing comes from Capone's opening. Capone - I think you owe the collective geek a review of Predator 2 now. Tell us what was so bad about it. Sir, I demand satisfaction!

  • July 6, 2010, 6:53 a.m. CST

    This film doesn't ignore Predator 2

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    When he said "true sequel" he meant it's the first predator film that feels like the first one. But the film does not ignore predator 2. The only thing it ignores is the AVP films and it doesn't flat out ignore them it just skips over them. It's safe to call this film Predator 3 because thats what it is

  • July 6, 2010, 7:07 a.m. CST

    Predator 2 was the dogs balls, less of the lip

    by bongo123

    brillant early 90's action flick that totally stands the test of time with an absolutely killer opening and fantastic cast

  • July 6, 2010, 7:10 a.m. CST

    does not ignore predator 2


    because Fishburne is supposed to be Glover's brother correct? Am i mistaken, or did Capone not do that research?

  • July 6, 2010, 7:11 a.m. CST

    2 actors (miniumum) need to become governors.


    Or fail.

  • July 6, 2010, 7:11 a.m. CST



  • July 6, 2010, 7:12 a.m. CST

    I'm there Friday...

    by Mr. Profit

    Sure Brody isn't Arnold. But Big Nose looks like he worked out for this movie. I'll check it. Something has to be good in this Summer of shit movies...

  • July 6, 2010, 7:34 a.m. CST

    anybody that hated Predator 2

    by sith_rising

    must have a vagina. Not the best movie ever made, but a kick-ass action/sci-fi/horror movie in every way. Terrible acting, but great bloody fun.

  • July 6, 2010, 8 a.m. CST


    by ScaryWaitress

    Nevermind. I'm there. That is actually an interesting decision.

  • July 6, 2010, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Predator 2 shits all over AVP

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    Really unfair to lump it in with those crap fests.<br><br> It may not be up to the level of the original but its still a cool movie. I'm glad most of the other talkbackers seem to feel the same way. Shame on you Capone!<br><br> Looking forward to Predators, still a bit dubious about it but I liked Kontroll and Antal seems a cool bloke.

  • July 6, 2010, 8:06 a.m. CST

    Predator 2 is the true sequel and a fine one...

    by quantize

    ..Predators will need to be every bit as classy and inventive as Aliens was to be considered anywhere near as cool.

  • July 6, 2010, 8:07 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    They may as well have grabbed the cast of Glee. <P>

  • July 6, 2010, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Saw it last night...

    by AotD

    ...Sent my review to Harry too. Brief summing up: Mediocre, some parts are laughable and it doesnt have an original bone in its body. Fishburne's cameo is horrendous, its like an attempt to marry Brando in Apocolypse Now with Hurt in The Proposition, but comes across like Ace Ventura at the start of "When Nature Calls". The Topher turn is unconvincing and kind of laughable too. The set pieces were decent enough and the creature designs (Predadogs aside) worked for me. Overall, better than the AvPs but not a patch on the original.

  • July 6, 2010, 8:19 a.m. CST

    "You are very perceptive, brother"

    by mastes360

    Was Nimrod in LOST? lol. By the way, this has been getting rave reviews in the UK and thats very satisfying after those negative French reviews. Also can i just say that Predator 2 is a very good movie imo, its not quite as good as the first Predator but its a worthy sequel and shits all over the AVP movies.

  • July 6, 2010, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Got to agree on Predator 2

    by Sailor Rip

    Not a damn thing wrong with that film. Great sequel.

  • July 6, 2010, 8:39 a.m. CST


    by blackwood

    Give me your ideal cast for this film. Also reasons why they are better.

  • July 6, 2010, 8:51 a.m. CST

    PREDATOR2 does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    "PREDATORS, a film Rodriguez considers the true and proper sequel to the 1987 PREDATOR (in other words, you can forget PREDATOR 2 and the ALIEN VS. PREDATOR movies. I'm guessing most of you will do so gladly."<p> You guessed wrong Capone, from reading this talkback. Lot of love for PREDATOR 2 about. And why not, it's a uber violent Verhoevenesque action flick of the type they don't make any more.<p> Capone, you go crack open a beer and watch it again and then tell me - are you not entertained!

  • July 6, 2010, 8:57 a.m. CST

    I too don't get the Predator 2 dissing

    by filmcoyote

    Predator 2 is a great sequel. It goes in a new direction with a different setting a very different type of adversary (Glover) for the Predator, a fantastic supporting cast (Paxton, Blades, Busey). It avoids simply repeating (ala Die Hard 2) the first movie. Is it as fun and iconic as the first film? No. But it's still a great fun film. Ignore it at your peril Rodriguez. If you're lumping P2 in with AvP then you're an idiot and if you're suggesting that your film is superior to P2 then you've got a lot to live up to my friend. Personally i'm looking forward to Predators but ragging on Predator 2 is not the way to go.

  • July 6, 2010, 9 a.m. CST

    Predator 2=Alien3

    by thxMike

    greatly underrated.

  • July 6, 2010, 9:05 a.m. CST

    ARMORED was shit

    by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon

    Decent idea with poor execution. The direction and editing were just sub par and it left me without any feeling toward what was happening to the characters. The thrill of it was lacking really and I'm afraid that's what might happen to Predators. I hope not but it doesnt give me much faith.

  • July 6, 2010, 9:09 a.m. CST

    John McClane s/b cop in Predator 2, why?

    by leo54304

    Yippi-ki-yay Motherfucker!! Seriously, John McClane vs Predators would have been fun. Predators 2 wasn't bad but weakest link was Danny Glover, he just not good enough to carry a movie. P2 came close to 3/4 stars in my view. Actually with the hot weather across the country, nows a good time to watch it again but with windows open so you can feel the heat of LA in the movie. Will see Predators this weekend and I do high hopes for it.

  • July 6, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Remember how pumped up you were after seeing Predators?

    by leo54304

    My friends and I couldn't stop talking about the movie the whole night after seeing it. Its movies like that are lightning in a bottle. Thats why it so hard for sequals to match the magic of the original. Only sequels I think that gave me the same rush would be:Aliens, Empire and Godfather 2, the Toy Stories. If anyone has further sequels they felt matched the original please mention them.

  • July 6, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST

    D'oh!! Forgot Dark Knight as a solid sequel

    by leo54304

    Just ran a little too long and Two Face s/b villain for third movie with Catwoman. Too bad Aashley Judd won't get the role. She'd kill as Selina Kyle

  • July 6, 2010, 9:21 a.m. CST

    I don't HATE Predator 2 . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    . . . but man, I think a BUNCH of you guys dry humping it need to rewatch it. The horrible writing and hitting golf ball at Predator scene on the subway are really standing out in my memory right now. Love that scene w/ the druglord in the alley though. And of course Busey biting it in the meat locker. Still remember someone in the theater yelling "SHOOT IT!!!" at the top of his lungs when Glover is standing over the Predator laying on the ground. Whole audience jumped out of their seats.

  • July 6, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST

    PREDATOR 2...

    by DoubleFantasy a great film! It takes a completely different angle on the story and danny glover is perfect in as he's not trying to be arnie. in fact he has a completely different system of beating the predator - outsmarting it on his own turf. the predator in predator 2 was playing mind games consistently with him and he took the challenge. very different story, very different film but hugely entertaining with a great cast. the only thing i will never forgive the makes of predator 2 for though is keeping the predators heat vision AFTER his mask was removed. major, major cock up there which has forever bugged the hell out of me.

  • July 6, 2010, 9:35 a.m. CST

    P2 was good fun in a lot of scenes, reason it

    by leo54304

    didn't do well as box office was everyone wanted Arnie. I remember back between the movies, there were rumors about Arnie making a sequel. And when P2 with no Arnie people didnt want to see it. I think a better actor for the movie at the time would have been Dolph Lungren. Check out the comic book "Predators" which came about same time as P2. Story was Arnies character has brother on NYPD (I think) as a detective who the predators come after because Arnie disappeared. Military is also after the brother and Arnie because..won't spoil it but was a fun 4 issue mini series.

  • July 6, 2010, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Forget Predator 2? FUCK THAT. Predator 2 rocks

    by D.Vader

    Fuck this pretentious "let's disregard it bc it wasn't as good as the first one" attitude. As far as sequels go, Predator 2 is good and worthy.

  • July 6, 2010, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Predator 2 gets love cos of NOSTALGIA

    by BP_drills_america_a_new_asshole

    We all have warm fuzzy feelings towards sci fi/action movies made pre 92. Fifteen years from now, fanboys will be having the same discussion about the AvP films, with the majority saying they were great films. Everything looks better when you're older and cynical and look back on your childhood. Truth is, Predator 2 sucked gibbon balls.

  • July 6, 2010, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Michael Chiklis should replace Topher Grace

    by leo54304

    Would have like to Vic Mackey take on predators. Come to think of it he'd made a decent cop for the predators 2 movie right up there with John McClane.

  • July 6, 2010, 9:44 a.m. CST

    I had a dream last night I was killed by a Predator

    by D.Vader

    Or my consciousness went into the body of someone who was killed by a Predator. I was laying face-first on the ground and listened as the Predator taught another one how to properly yank the spinal column and skull out of a fresh kill. <p> I could feel his clawed fingers as the pressed and wriggled around each of my vertebrae to loosen up the tendons and ligaments, to separate my spinal column from the back muscles that held it together. Then I felt the slit made at the bottom near my tailbone and with one sickening yank, I felt my spinal column ripped free of the body, and my skull came flying out of my headskin. <p> My vision went kind of hazy in one eye, like static on a television screen, and I realized its because one of my eyes fell out. The Predator took his claws and plucked out the remaining eye, and as he did this, my vision went completely into tv static and then black. And in that instant, the "camera angle" changed, and I was suddenly outside of my body, watching the Predator pluck my eye out of my bloody red skull and crush it between his fingers like a grape. <p> I had this dream after the zombie dream in which I was driving a mini-tank around the Walking Dead and watching idiotic friends of mine wrestle with close zombies, shooting them in the face but never in the head, and then when they finally decide to put the zombie down and aim for the forehead, as its arms are wrapped all around my friend, he has run out of bullets and I have to come in and save the day. <p> Yeah, weird dreams last night. I blame it on watching Michael Jackson's Thriller at 8:30.

  • July 6, 2010, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Bill Paxton was never killed by a Terminator

    by D.Vader

    Aren't I right? He's one of the goons that survives and runs away.

  • July 6, 2010, 9:50 a.m. CST

    The cast of Glee vs Predators

    by D.Vader

    That's a movie I'd watch. <p> But Rachel better survive long enough to get topless. Just sayin'.

  • July 6, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Nostalgia has nothing to do with it

    by tomdolan04

    Alien Resurrection was 13 years ago and it hasn't done jack for that in my eyes. The praise on here for P2 clearly isn't saying it was on par with original - it's just a solid, bloody, violent, enjoyable B-movie: - and they, despite however much people like Tarantino try to be hip with them, are hard to come by.

  • July 6, 2010, 9:57 a.m. CST

    supposed rumours that are started to trickle out

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    1. Lawrence fishbourne is related to Danny glover somehow (i've heard brother, but one reviewer claimed they were cousins and the reference to being related is more of an easter egg) <P>2) the chick that was int he first Predaor and is briefly in predator 2 (i forget her name and i'm, too lazy to look it up) makes a cameo half way through the film, making her the only actor to appear in all 3 predator films

  • July 6, 2010, 9:57 a.m. CST

    I thought Paxton was the one . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    . . . who got his heart ripped out by the Terminator.

  • July 6, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Paxton was the Terminator's first victim

    by BP_drills_america_a_new_asshole

    He got the Terminator's fist in his chest. That's what you get for saying a line like "Wash day tomorrow. Nothing clean, right?"

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    Someone gets their heart ripped out by a Terminator?!

    by D.Vader

    Holy shit that's a moment of badassness I don't remember at all.

  • July 6, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Heres Bills part in Terminator, enjoy!!

    by leo54304

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  • July 6, 2010, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Christ am I an idiot!? T2 was a worthy sequel to the original

    by leo54304

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    by leo54304

  • July 6, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST

    We also have P2 to blame for AvP

    by BP_drills_america_a_new_asshole

    The Alien skull found in the Pred's trophy cabinet was meant to be an in-joke. The joke turned into a nightmare when the comics (Dark Horse, I think) ran with the idea, and we eventually got the shitfest that were the AvP films.

  • July 6, 2010, 10:12 a.m. CST


    by D.Vader

  • July 6, 2010, 10:13 a.m. CST

    But the comics were kinda awesome, BP

    by D.Vader

    And the video game was pretty amazing. Don't blame P2 for AvP. Blame the braindead producers who hired PW Anderson to write and direct, and blame Anderson for making such a shitty movie.

  • July 6, 2010, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Predator 2 is great!

    by TheManWhoCan

    It sounds like this new movie isn’t even as good as 2. Self-praise is no praise Rodriguez! Early reviews sound mehh and what’s all this about Larry Fishburn’s cameo? Didn’t know it was just a cameo.. Fuck that for starters. Decided I may just wait to watch this at home in a few weeks when its out on DVD (whilst still in the cinema like all new movies are these days) Pity, I started out lukewarm to this new movie and my interest slowly grew to giddy enthusiasm now its back to they-don’t make-them-like-they-used-to-anymore mild interest. Its backed by Fox for fuck sake I should have known! <p> you can guess the ending from the trailer, you know the lasers pointing at Brody, yeah right he’s just going to get shot a hundred times OR IS HE?? Yawn!<p> Back off Predator 2 Rodriguez and Nimrod!! It’s up there with the action classics of its day. Predators sounds like fun but it will be forgotten in a few years. Sure you’ll read the odd self deluded reviews like its not as good as predator 1 but better then 2, like those old Phantom Menace reviews putting it behind episode IV&V but ahead of Return of the Jedi. When really, it was a complete and utter disaster!

  • July 6, 2010, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Predator 2 was a great film......

    by Father

    ....and if any one doesnt like it, you can tell 'em kiss my sweet ass! Predator 2 was just as good as the very brilliant original. Just as intense, just as macho, just as funny and just as entertaining. It also gave us more insight into the mysterious world of the titular predator without telling us too much , plus it has some great profanity-rich lines like: "Its an alien! A FUCKING ALIEN" and "Voodoo magic man....FUCKING VOODOO MAGIC!". And while danny glover wasnt the most obvious choice to replace schwarznegger , he actually made the battle with the predator a lot more suspenseful, because while schwarznegger was a big bad commando who could go toe to toe with the predator, glover was just a really intense cop who looked a little to old for this shit-the fight could go either way. So all in all, predator 2= just as good as part 1. Still no idea why it got released on christmas day though.... I mean it aint exactly a miracle on 34th street, is it?

  • July 6, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Predator2 vs. AVP and AVP2

    by AnUsulDarkley

    Adam Jones of Tool worked on P2, making an already great film even better. Winner: Predator 2 I shall never forget.

  • July 6, 2010, 10:24 a.m. CST


    by Nice Marmot

    No, not JUST AS GOOD. You are just so wrong there.

  • July 6, 2010, 10:25 a.m. CST

    AvP should have remained in the comics

    by BP_drills_america_a_new_asshole

    It was a nice idea for the comic medium only. I agree the comics were good, but the jump to film was always doomed. And it cost us another James Cameron Alien film. He got pissed and abandoned it. Dear god, it cost us another Cameron Alien film!!!

  • July 6, 2010, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Arnies role in Predator 2

    by TheBoyFromUlster

    Apparently Arnie was supposed to be in the Gary Busey role in Predator 2, not the Danny Glover role. Which, if you think about would of worked fantastically well I think?

  • July 6, 2010, 10:35 a.m. CST


    by AotD

    I didnt see a reference to either of those, and Alice Braga is the only female in the entire movie.

  • July 6, 2010, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Paxton wasnt killed in Terminator

    by HamburgerEarmuffs

    It was some other dude with a hole in his chest.

  • July 6, 2010, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Gary Buseys character would be fun in Predators

    by leo54304

    You always need one guy to go crazy in a movie like this. Right Bill Paxton (Aliens)? "Game over man!!"

  • July 6, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Someone watch Terminator and clear this up!

    by BP_drills_america_a_new_asshole

    I'm getting those three punks mixed up. One of the punks gets a hole in his chest - I don't think it was Paxton. The third punk doesn't get killed on screen, we see him taking his clothes off at the end. So what happens to Paxton? Damn I just can't remember!

  • July 6, 2010, 10:42 a.m. CST

    There's a new king of the streets...

    by Jared Syn

    Predator 2 had really good action sequences, but most of the scenes in between the action and predator stuff was the reason why fast-forward buttons were invented.

  • July 6, 2010, 10:49 a.m. CST

    I thought Paxton just runs away.

    by D.Vader

  • July 6, 2010, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Paxton was killed in T1...

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    Arnold punched him and broke his neck. Then piledrived his fist into the guts of the scary looking guy from Cobra.

  • July 6, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Just watched a clip from Terminator

    by D.Vader

    The Bounty Hunter from X-Files gets his heart ripped out. Bill Paxton just gets hit and knocked into the metal fence where I assume he goes unconscious (because it didn't seem like that brutal of a smack to be killed). The third guy gives Arnie his clothes.

  • July 6, 2010, 10:55 a.m. CST

    No, he died.

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    That's why his eyes are wide open, staring blankly. Arnold's steel arms broke his neck.

  • July 6, 2010, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Predator 2 good in comparison to junk of today...

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    but not that good at the time. Silly comedy bits and an incomprehensible plot. Busey is always good value, though, and it's pleasingly violent. They should have adapted the Dark Horse comic follow up with Dolph the Swedish Meatball cast as Lt. Schaffer, Dutch's brother,

  • July 6, 2010, 11:01 a.m. CST

    They didn't show that part with his eyes

    by D.Vader

    The clip may have ended early. But every clip I looked up ended at that moment.

  • July 6, 2010, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Turd you're thinking of the Cobra bad guy

    by D.Vader

    The shape-shifting bounty hunter from The X-Files. I just rewatched the scene on DVD this time. The closeup of unblinking eyes is the bad guy from Cobra after getting his heart ripped out. Bill Paxton is smacked into a fence and he falls down- but that's all. I'd say the jury's out on whether he survived or not. I say yes, because the 3rd guy who gives Arnie his clothes, he was smacked by Arnie too. <p> And we all saw Christian Bale survive the attack of the metal arms in T4. So its possible.

  • July 6, 2010, 11:07 a.m. CST

    That's because it's not there...

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    Think I was getting confused with the novelization (written by Cameron's buddies). Who cares - he's dead, Jim! Just accept it...he ain't comin' back!

  • July 6, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST

    The novelization says he died...

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    That he was lying on the ground twitching in death spasms with his eyes open from the strength of the blow. Whether you take that as canon in the movie is up to you.

  • July 6, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST

    I always thought it was implied that Arnie killed them all...

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    Even the guy who gave him the clothing was killed after he did so...offscreen of course.

  • July 6, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Dolph could still get the job done in Predators

    by leo54304

    And as Turd mentioned would have been perfect in the Dark Horse mini series that followed the movie. If you're a Predator fan, the series is called Predator:Concrete Jungle.

  • July 6, 2010, 11:15 a.m. CST

    I just assume Bill Paxton pretended to be dead

    by D.Vader

    Then ran away after Arnie left, and told tales of the scary naked Austrian man that kicked his ass, ripped out another dude's heart, and stole his buddy's clothes. Everyone in the gang made fun of him, beat him up, and kicked him out of the gang. He went to community college and now repairs computers from a home business.

  • July 6, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Nice one Vader

    by leo54304

  • July 6, 2010, 11:29 a.m. CST

    80's line up for Predators type movie:

    by leo54304

    Arnie, Dolph Lungren, Sybil Danning, Grace Jones, Stallone, Willis, Liam Niesen (Ever see Darkman?) and OJ (The original choice to play the Terminator). I think it would great to see OJ get into a knife fight with a predator. Also Grace and Sybil at one time were talked about as opposing each other in a Terminator sequel.

  • July 6, 2010, 11:31 a.m. CST

    BP, the AVP crossover was in the comics first

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    The comic crossover predates the appearance of the alien skull in predator 2, back then it was meant as in jopke to fans of the comics, and i don't think the crossover idea is all that bad, it's just been handled inefectivley so far, if you set an AVP way in the future on some distant planet with a group of humans that crash land and get in the middle of a full blown war then it could be pretty decent. The two we got made the mistake of setting the stories on modern day earth and while they did add a bit of backstory to the Welend-yutani corporation, they did little to please fans

  • July 6, 2010, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Are you saying Blaine and Hawkings were killed by a fucking lizr

    by Amazing Maurice

    There's two or three men out there at the most.<P>Fucking Lizards!

  • July 6, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Did Nimrod just call Rodriguez a "Master Filmmaker"?

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    Rodriguez has exactly two decent films, Desperado and From Dusk 'Till Dawn, both of which could be much better. <p> Sin City was okay, but imagine if a true filmmaker took that Frank Miller garbage and handled it like a true film noir instead a weekend over at uncle Rob's against blue screen sheets.<p> No wonder your daddy named you Nimrod! (I know, I know, but "I just had to get it on man, he was making a move!".)

  • July 6, 2010, 12:53 p.m. CST

    top 10 retarded forums that rot your brain

    by spacechampion

    10. Slashdot. 9. 4chan 8. Youtube 7. Huffington Post commenters 6. Valleywag 5. Perez Hilton commmenters 4. TMZ commenters 3. Aint it cool news talkbacks 2. Redstate 1. IMDB forums.

  • July 6, 2010, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Termination does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    "I just assume Bill Paxton pretended to be dead. Then ran away after Arnie left, and told tales of the scary naked Austrian man that kicked his ass, ripped out another dude's heart, and stole his buddy's clothes. Everyone in the gang made fun of him, beat him up, and kicked him out of the gang. He went to community college and now repairs computers from a home business."<p> Hahaha! Vader, you've got the spin off sequel right there. A downbeat drama about how a Terminator survivor deals with life, call it A COUPLE CANS SHORT OF A SIX PACK.<p> All the cops who only got 'lightly injured' by the goodie Terminator in T2 can also cameo as Paxton's support group.

  • July 6, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Rodriguez is hit or miss.

    by rbatty024

    Which is one of the reasons I was happy to hear he was a producer and not the director. He has made some fun b-movie films, but I don't have a lot of confidence in his ability to steer a major film franchise. That being said, when the hell is that fucker going to start making Sin City 2?

  • July 6, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Absolutely freaking love Kontrol

    by Iowa Snot Client

    The follow-ups, um, not so much. Please strip Nimrod Antal naked and airdrop him into Hungary with only a movie camera. Only this can cure him of the Hollywood.

  • July 6, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Jury's still out on Rodriguez

    by palimpsest

    EL MARIACHI is OK for a cheapie, FROM DUSK TILL DAWN falls apart after the vampires show up, DESPERADO is fun, THE FACULTY is fine, the first SPY KIDS movie is OK though the others suck, SIN CITY is a technical exercise done well, MEXICO is woeful. Not seen either of SHARK BOY/LAVA GIRL or SHORTS. PLANET TERROR is a bit of a mess. I like the guy (REBEL WITHOUT A CREW was a great read at least, and the 10 MINUTE FILM SCHOOL stuff is good) but I get the feeling that him being his own boss leads to self-indulgence. Maybe with some discipline he could make something like, say, Tarantino's JACKIE BROWN...

  • July 6, 2010, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Yeah KONTROL is the shit

    by palimpsest

    Shows you what you can do with access to a subway and a few mad actors.

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  • July 7, 2010, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Predator fans like Predator 2

    by Waka_Flocka

    stop bagging on it, it's a good film you dummies. you are just exposing yourselves.

  • July 7, 2010, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Nimrod Seems Cool

    by Cobbio

    Good interview, Capone. Thanks.<p> I like what Antal had to say about a lot of things, and from what I've read on rottentomatoes, "Predators" is being very well reviewed. Can't wait to see it.

  • July 7, 2010, 2 p.m. CST

    Hope to see it this weekend

    by pilgrim64

    As far as worthy sequels, besides the other mentioned, I think Superman 2 and the Back to the Future sequels should be included

  • July 7, 2010, 3:19 p.m. CST

    I don't like a Predator director who dislikes Predator 2

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    Sorry but Predator 2 was one of the most underrated sequels ever even if not at the original's level. What kind of conceited crap is this?

  • July 7, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Predator spearing a guy in the stomach and then

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    he takes it out and swings it around while surveying the last guy to take down, movie magic.

  • July 7, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Predator 2 haters need to go fuck a dick

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

  • July 7, 2010, 6:37 p.m. CST

    saw Predators last night, not as good as Predator 2 (SPOILERS)

    by hiperaktiv

    Wasnt really disappointed with 'Predators' because I wasnt expecting much and I got free tickets. It was fun but some things were fucking lame about it. The good: Adrien Brody, actually the whole cast is pretty good. The characters are pretty cool and well structured all actually care when they die. The setup for the movie is pretty damned good..."safari planet". Sourcing the original soundtrack and including the Little Richard song from the original. The bad: Trejo dying first, an anti climax when the Predators first appear in the open, Fishburne and his silly cameo, emptying 2000 rounds on a minigun and not hitting anything, an awkward samurai fight with a Yakuza guy and a Predator, the Predator vs Predator fight which totally makes the original predators look like pussies, the lack of any cool new predator weapons or gadgets, lame ending with the serial killer doctor guy, and the final battle. It was an ok movie, a bit of fun, but some Predator fans might be pissed at these so called "new species" of Predators which was totally unnecessary for the storyline and didnt serve a purpose other than to show a pissy Predator vs Predator battle. Predator 2 was much better.