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Mr. Beaks Reports Back From THE GREEN HORNET Trailer Premiere (AKA The Night The Lights Went Out At The Jimmy Kimmel Show)!
This story was supposed to be timed to the premiere of THE GREEN HORNET trailer on THE JIMMY KIMMEL SHOW - and it still is. It's just that, due to a most unexpected power outage, THE JIMMY KIMMEL SHOW is not airing tonight. But it was taped. On Kimmel's MacBook. So you'll just have to tune in tomorrow (Tuesday) to see the whole pixilated affair.
As for the THE GREEN HORNET trailer, it's now online, and I think it'll go a long way toward quelling the anxiety caused by the film's move from December 2010 to January 2011. And if you doubt that, read the below Q&A (which transpired after a screening of the trailer at the Mann's Chinese 6), and pay close attention to what Michel Gondry says about converting the film to 3D. Though Sony did not want to go 3D with THE GREEN HORNET initially, Gondry shot the film in a way that made the conversion process somewhat natural. He employed a lot of deep focus photography, which gave him the leeway to exploit depth-of-field in a way Tim Burton and Louis Leterrier couldn't with ALICE IN WONDERLAND and CLASH OF THE TITANS. I spoke with him after the Q&A, and he seemed really excited with what they're pulling together - particularly as it pertains to "Kato Vision", which you'll get to see in 3D at Comic Con next month. This could be Gondry's next technical triumph after helping to pioneer "bullet time". Don't bet against genius.
So watch the trailer...
Q: What’s the storyline with the characters?
Seth: To explain it I guess briefly, I’m an irresponsible kind of idiot, as one might imagine, and my father dies and I form a friendship with someone else that did not have the highest opinion towards him…one of his employees, Kato. And through that friendship, we realize that maybe we can create this kind of thing that will help us both live out our dreams. In time, we realize that each other’s personalities are the most difficult thing to overcome and try to form this thing. That’s how the story goes.
Michel: We see a bit of his childhood and home. This friendship finds its resolution through his inner voice. He’s talking to his dad in his mind.
Q: This is different in terms of action. Is this more of the final look of Kato vision? Still evolving?
Michel: It’s not really represented here. There’s an outside of Kato vision. There’s the way he sees things. Not really represented here. It’s more like a surprise I guess.
Seth: Two steps to Kato vision as I guess we’ve called it. The way you see the fights as an observer and then the way Kato sees fights in his own eyes.
Have you reconsidered how you stage fights, now that you’re doing it in 3D?
M: To be honest, we were always hoping to go 3D. The way I put the camera was always like “It would be so cool to see it in 3D”. We pushed a little more the effects. The way the fight works…the use of the 3D to split the screen. We sort of always wanted to do it in 3D.
This is the first time an audience gets to see movie. How involved were the four of you in deciding…do you have another version of this trailer…how the trailer would go?
S: There have been a lot of versions of this trailer. We were pretty involved. We watch it every step of the way. I have to acknowledge honestly that our perceptions of the movie are different sometimes to your general person who knows absolutely nothing about the movie. I’m sure every person in this audience know a millions times more about the green hornet than 99% of people who will be seeing this trailer. And some of you came to set and saw another thing and that was kind of... if you kind of know The Green Hornet. We really had to keep reminding ourselves that we were presenting to people who knew nothing about The Green Hornet. And we really wanted to make sure that it portrayed the real feel of the move more than anything.
Neal Moritz: We really showed it a lot and we got a lot of feedback. We tested the trailer a lot of times - quite a few times to make sure that what we liked about it was the same thing that the audience was going to like about it as well.
M: We wanted to make sure our enthusiasm for the story and the characters would be portrayed. We really worked close. For the first time I’m really excited about the movie.
N: The goal of the movie is the relationship between Kato and Britt, and in the subsequent trailer we really want to develop that more.
S: We have to introduce the idea of The Green Hornet to people first. There will be more trailers and more advertisements down the line and we can explore the intricacies of what the movie is about. To make sure people understand the general concept of what it is we are doing.
Q: Kato is more the superhero. Green Hornet is work in progress. Is that still an aspect that will remain?
Evan Goldberg: Kato is the definitely the more skilled individual. We joke about it with Seth. He had to get in shape to do the movie, and Jay didn’t. He was in shape. It was inherently there. He is very talented, a genius kind of guy. And Seth is a normal guy.
S: We didn’t want the joke to be... one of complete and utter goofiness and complete physical incompetence at all times. And we knew that ultimately it had to live up to the expectations of a superhero movie and needs to have the kind of full-blown action that people expect from that genre. We knew that we couldn’t just rest on the comedy to make it interesting.
N: It's something they create together.
Q: What kind of tone are you going for? What kind of tone do you see emerging? Balancing action and comedy? This is clearly not some kind of dark superhero film.
M: There is comedy, but overall the tone is not a spoof. You get that in trailer. We never intended to do something comical. We really embraced the superhero feature, and there are serious parts. Of course there is some comedy but I think it’s more of an action movie.
N: We always talk about it as an action movie with comedy versus a comedy with action.
S: Michele and Sally Menke, our editor, are really coming up with a lot of interesting ways to tell the story. Both of them are really great at that. She had PULP FICTION and movies like that, which really are great at telling the narrative, the story, and its really amazing to see what they’ve done in the editing room and how…what a giant creative step the movie has taken, leaving it in Michele and Sally’s hands for a little. It’s really exciting for us as fans to see your movie filmed and then taken to this whole other place.
Q: How close does storyline fit into comic? I was thinking he was a bad guy when I originally heard this.
S: THE GREEN HORNET comic has nothing to do with our movie, other than it’s called THE GREEN HORNET. Yeah, sorry. (Pause) Unless you love THE GREEN HORNET - then it’s exactly based on the comic. We clearly all got our ideas from the same source. There are some elements that are the same. But I think naturally when you are trying to update something, the ideas are going to go to similar places, but there is no collaboration on behalf of comic and filmmakers.
E:: The one constant is that he poses as a criminal to catch criminals.
M: What is important to say is that The Green Hornet has so many forms. It was a comic. Then it was on television. And then you have Bruce Lee. We had to digest all of that to find what would be our version of The Green Hornet. As a director, I was thinking to make a movie before it was asked to be a film. And as well the notion of Kato has evolved so much over the years. He was supposed to be Japanese, and then, during WWII, because of the war they had to change character so he was not Japanese. He was Filipino and then he was Chinese. So all of that inspired…we respect that but we had to bring it to a place that it would fit now.
Q: 3D conversion process has gotten criticisms lately because of CLASH OF THE TITANS and ALICE IN WONDERLAND? What measures are you taking to avoid pitfalls?
N: That’s why we moved the release date back. We wanted 3D to look really good. The only way was buying ourselves time to make it look good. We already have some sequences that we’ve turned over now in 3D, so we have plenty of time to actually make it good and do it the right way as opposed to CLASH OF THE TITANS, which was done in six to eight weeks.
S: It’s like any other visual effect. There are really good applications of it and really bad applications of it. It all depends on whose hands it’s in. You look at CG sometimes and its terrible. You look at CG sometimes and its great. I think this is no different. Very good versions and very bad versions. I think it’s like any other creative decision. It’s going to be gauged by the levels of enthusiasm…of the creative people behind it. It’s something that we all feel really strongly about…something that we’ve always wanted to do…since the first idea of this movie came along. I’ve been working in 3D movies for years. I started in MONSTERS VS. ALIENS almost four or five years ago. It was then I traveled around the world with Jeffrey Katzenberg… hearing him pontificate on 3D and what a big evolution it was going to be. So it’s always something I’ve been a big fan of. It started in the society of the 60’s I believe, so its always been something we’ve been big supporters of, and I think, just like I said, there’s good versions and bad versions and we hope to do a really good version.
M: You could imagine a movie in 2D in 3D and transform it. If you take this type of movie where they really use the full depth of field. This movie, if it was transformed in 3D, would use much more fast editing. And even before we could do it in 3D, we talked about the fight or we say "Okay, we don’t want to rely to much on the other team, so we didn’t make it so fast with editing." And this is a very important element to make 3D work well.
N: We didn’t make a rash decision by any means. We saw a lot of demonstrations with a lot of different companies and then ultimately brought in a number of these companies into the editing room, and then went through the film with them together and really looked at the pitfalls, positives and negatives to doing it. We kind of weighed those all out before we even approached the studio and asked them to let us turn it into 3D, which is obviously a huge financial impact. After that, I remember Amy Pascal said to us “This is going to cost a lot of extra money. Are you sure about this?” And we were because we had done so much homework on it. And we did not want to be reprimanded like CLASH OF THE TITANS was. We really wanted to take our time and do it right.
S: First thing people like you say is that the studio is forcing us to do and it’s a quick fix. The funny thing is it could not be more opposite. It was us begging and pleading as creative entities to the studio to allow us to have this tool to tell our story in an original way. And we’re super excited that we were able to do it.
M: There were some ideas. The relationship is such that even after he’s passed away, he keeps talking to him in his mind. Several times. We got this idea to represent his father…his silhouette, which you can only see if you watch the movie in 3D. In 2D you would hear the voice, but in 3D he’s going to pop out. So that’s why we were so thrilled to be able to execute this in 3D. We always had the voiceover of the father in the story, but then when we decided to do it in 3D, it was perfect.
Q: In marketing this film, are you going try to evoke Bruce Lee thing as some kind of selling point?
S: If you ask most high schoolers who Bruce Lee is, they will say that it someone they sit next to in English class. I don’t think that it would. I think it’s not something that would ever be my instinct to do and not to attempt it. Jay Chou is one the coolest dudes I’ve ever met or been around. What we say is that he’s like Steve McQueen. He does everything cooler than anyone else does anything. And I think Jay... man I’ve never been psyched to show up to work and be completely overshadowed by somebody on a regular basis. And it’s just how it is. Jay, in his own right, will win people over. He is incredibly impressive and charismatic performer. Jay is incredibly talented martial artist and he’s just a rad dude and I don’t think we will need to do that.
N: No one here thinks that we will replace or be better than what Bruce Lee was.
S: Yeah, we didn’t try. Just as different as I am from Van Williams, Jay is from Bruce Lee. We wanted to create new characters in telling it.
M: Of course, for any actor from Asia, it’s a very heavy task [to take] over Bruce Lee. So Jay never wanted to emulate Bruce Lee by any means. He did not want to use his type of expression, sound or scream. So, out of respect, you don’t want to mimic him.
S: Yeah, he definitely was very conscious of not doing a Bruce lee impression. He wanted to make his own character. He was into that. And thank god he did because he makes a great Kato.
Q: Since the character is lesser known than say Superman or Spider-Man or other superhero movies, is there any concern going into that? In terms of marketing? Or other things to address that?
S: For whoever saw the first trailer and then this one. I think that thought is exactly what led us to say this is the approach that we need to take. Like we look at IRON MAN. I remember when IRON MAN came out. I drove by a billboard with my girlfriend and she said “Who’s Iron Man?” and they did a good job at taking Iron Man, and, believe it or not,… he was a relatively unknown Marvel character when that first movie came out. And they did a good job at introducing it. They didn’t really tease it. There was no teaser. They just kind of showed you exactly what it was. That’s something that we talked about - that they successfully took a pretty obscure character and made him well known, and introduced him to people. That’s kind of what we realized we had to do. Not show our version of THE GREEN HORNET, but say here’s what the fuck THE GREEN HORNET is. (Pause) That’s the only "fuck" I’ve said the whole time. That’s not bad.
Q: We are a month away from Comic Con? Have you started with the conversion? Are you guys going to be there, and what are you going to show the fans at Comic Con?
N: We are definitely going to be a Comic Con, and will be there with big presence. We are going to show a piece of the film. As long as the 3D is done to the standard that we want it, we will show the trailer in 3D
S: Yeah, we’ve already been looking at stuff to show. We are all Comic Con fans and, as comic book nerds, it’s important to us to show respect for those people who go out there and shove their asses in there.
M: We will show the whole movie backwards…with voice over of the teaser guy.
Q: The whole idea of bringing your Michele Gondry style to a comic book? I didn’t see it in the trailer. Is there more?
M: There is more. I don’t want really to… there is danger of having a shtick… different than you will see the movie. There’s a difference between a trailer and a movie. That’s traditional for a movie. There is some sequences that we’re still working out that you didn’t see in the trailer. That’s more of my specific signature. But when we met, they said we want to see Michele Gondry sequences and I said no.
S: Originally I was going to be made a string.
Q: Seth you talked about always being a comic book fan, is this the first time you’re getting an action figure that’s actually you?
S: I have a “Bob” but that’s not really an action figure. It’s a blue toy. But, yeah, it’s pretty cool. I’m excited. But it’s my instinct to blow it up with firecrackers. I might do that.
Q: More than people are saying, “This is the GREEN HORNET movie” they are saying, “This is the Seth Rogen action movie”. You slimmed down. What is your approach to getting people over that hump to Seth Rogen as action hero?
S: My guy is not exactly like Bruce Wayne. The whole story of the movie is I’m an irresponsible idiot whose is trying to get his life together and do something worthwhile. As an irresponsible idiot, I’m quite good. And that’s why we always knew it was an easy buy. We didn’t want to just tell people what the whole story of the movie was, but that’s why we knew it was going to be fine because the story wasn’t that of a completely serious well-groomed man who decides to become a superhero; its about a guy who is grappling with his own irresponsible activities and tendencies, and can he put those all aside and do something worthwhile. That’s why I think, as an actor, I thought it was something I could tackle. It displayed what people expected of me... and maybe I could show as a growth through the character.
M: What I was hoping when I took the job basically is that my contribution could help that. I think that with Jim Carrey, as good as he was at being a comedian, he was excellent at being much more dramatic in [ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND]. I think Seth is selling himself short a little bit because I think that he really conveys a really complex and interesting character, and what I hope is that people will see him evolve.
S: It’s true that part of the reason we decided to approach Michel was we knew that it was going to be something different, taking it in a new direction, and that he was traditionally someone who worked with comedic actors and took them in new directions - just as he had taken people not traditionally known as comedic actors and made them much funnier than they were before, as with Kate Winslet in ETERNAL SUNSHINE. That’s something that was one of his strengths and something that we hoped he could bring to this.
Q: Who was really the champion among you guys who said to Sony “We need to make THE GREEN HORNET movie?”
N: It’s a good question. We were all champions at different times.
S: We’ve all been champions at different times. Where does an idea come from? I’m sure INCEPTION will answer that for all of us. It’s hard to think... I mean Michel Gondry was attached to a GREEN HORNET movie thirteen years ago. It’s hard to say who is the first one who wanted to do it. I would say that, no matter what, they are making a THOR movie, and, no matter what, they are making a CAPTAIN AMERICA movie. But they are not, no matter what, making a GREEN HORNET movie. We had to work really hard to have them let us do it. It wasn’t a given that it was eventually going to get made no matter what. We were lucky enough to be the guys that got to do it. We really, creatively, saw this as an opportunity that was exciting to us, and we’ve all fought really hard. There have been a lot of uphill battles, a lot of bad press, a lot of strikes against us, and it hasn’t been easy. But ultimately we are all really proud of the movie. We all love the movie, and I’m excited to be able to show you some of it. I was just saying to Evan as we were walking up here “Today is the first day I believe this might get released,” which is exciting.
N: I’ve never been involved in a movie where we had so many starts and stops. I think it was August of last year that Amy Pascal and a number of others were on vacation, and I think that was the reason we got to go ahead. It’s been a great experience.
S: Honestly, its something [on which] we all strongly agreed. We were passionate about it. It’s an idea for some reason. The relationship between those two guys. The idea of exploring that relationship… it’s creative. Evan and I, as writing partners... Michel as the director, make these relationships and you try to make something out of it, and it’s something that we all felt very strongly about. It was not a movie that was going to get made no matter what. It’s something we had to will into being. We had to work to make happen. If we didn’t do it, there would not be a GREEN HORNET movie on screen right now.
Seth, you’re known for improv. Was there improv?
S: We definitely wanted the relationships to, at times, have that spontaneous feel. I just think that me and Evan found something that works really well. The things in movies that people relate to a lot... a lot of that is through improv. Jay is amazing at it. Even in that thing “I don’t want to touch you...” he improvised that. We were joking around one day on a scene, and everyone got really into it. I mean, obviously, as an action movie there’s limitations to what you can do, but it doesn’t have a rigid feel to it. It’s a very loose conversational feel.
M: I think always my interest in making movies is to have something really technical mixed with something that was not so formal…something free. I realized very soon that it’s not because there are constraints like that. A lot of it in-camera effect. The person wants us to be stiff. That is, a lot of time, the actor. They don’t think too much about what they have to do to act or be funny. This context is a very good or great performance.
Working with Christoph [Waltz]? What comes from his background in European cinema?
S: Working with him was great. I would say that his character is a very unique villain. Christoph is a great actor, really fun. He embraced coming and doing things in our strange way with open arms. And I don’t know…he’s technically a very impressive actor to watch. And the way he does things is very demanding at times. At the same time, he is very nice and collaborative. I would love to work with him many more times.
Q: Have you started work on the score? Can you talk about the process and what we should expect?
M: It's Danny Elfman. It’s in the beginning stages.
S: Watching him and Michel weird out together is pretty rad.
Q: How was working with Cameron Diaz? How much did she get into all the action?
N: Nicest lady in whole world.
S: As to how much she gets involved in the action, we should keep that somewhat under wraps. She’s amazing. She gets very involved creatively. Her character... it was very important to us that it was not just an obligatory character. The character added a lot to the movie both comedicly and story-wise. She had a lot of great ideas. Anytime someone that famous puts any extra effort into anything, I really feel great about it. Anyone that famous…you don’t expect them to get involved at all. Evan literally had a party one night, and she showed up when Evan was really drunk and literally gave him two hours worth of notes. She made Evan drunkenly type them on his computer. And I thought, "Wow, that’s so impressive."
E: She came in, like, ten times to help Jay Chou learn English.
S: His English at first was a little sketchy at times. She put an enormous amount of time and energy into making sure that their scenes were natural and understandable and very loose and funny. Again, it’s the kind of thing where you’re like “She’s too fucking famous to be doing this. She should be on her island”.
THE GREEN HORNET hits theaters January 14, 2011. And "Kato Vision" debuts next month at Comic Con. Could be something of a make-or-break for this film.
Faithfully submitted,
Mr. Beaks
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I enjoyed the trailer, Seth Rogen is essentially playing his usual self but whatever, based on the trailer it could be entertaining.
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...the actor they cast as Kato can't hold the screen. A bit of a quandary, now that the movie has been shot. On the bright side, he's not CGI.
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In the opening shot, as they pan up, what's with the upside-down sign? That said, I'm game for this...
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Admittedly they could have gone through the footage in a painstaking manner to piece together a decent looking trailer, but they managed that. It still feels like a Seth Rogen character, but adjusted for a comic book superhero's world. I'm happy with the results. It sort of feels like if Robin had all the money and Batman was just a friend/employee. I think it works.
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Meh... (Just a slight meh though, not even one with enough motivation behind it to shrug shoulders along with it. Pretty much indifferent.)...just meh.
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Jonah Hex perhaps??
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This film could have been done as a badass noir piece. I believe that this premise could have broken some new ground in that area, but nope, the only thing that's keeping this from being straight-to-dvd or SyFy Channel fare is the budget.
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The frame was probably flipped and someone forgot to change the sign around.
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Shitty CGI<p>People fighting<P>Cars with guns<P>It's in 3D!!!!<P> Rap music <P> Dumb comedy <P> No-talent shit actors <P> * head explodes *
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It's upside down because that's they way the logo really appears at The Standard on Sunset. No CGI trickery.
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but otherwise...it looks decent I guess. I'll probably end up watching it, but I wished the tone was different. Rogen is just Rogen in here with a helpful sidekick.
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"You like pussy, Kato?" "Oh, me wruve pussy, Green Hornet! Me wruve pussy wrong time!"
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That explains it. Never been there before myself; I'm not sure I'm hip enough for that scene... ;)
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June 22, 2010, 1:08 a.m. CST
3D.....why? .................................................WHY
by Simpsonian
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FLOP
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The Standard sign was upside down because that's what their actual logo looks like. What, is your Google broke?
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...looks like a flick I could really enjoy on an afternoon off with a joint in hand. I loved watching the show as a kid, and as much as I don't really buy even a slimmed-down Rogan in this role, this trailer makes it look like a fun couple hours.
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Guh. The studio is not in the habit of moving a film out of the 'Thanksgiving - Christmas - New Year's' window because they want it to look good on screen. It's a dog, and they know it.
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Color me unimpressed... or purple, I like purple too.
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Was supposed to be the side-kick.
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I wanna see a movie with Harry as a vampire.
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Rogen looks hideously out of place here. I get that they want the arc of the goofy guy becoming the superhero, but the drinking and smoozing would work a lot better with a hint of self-loathing and coldness. He just looks like his 40 Year Old Virgin character was cut and pasted into a superhero film.
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They did decide to go the route of the Green Hornet being a wannabe, and Kato being a badass. I don't like their choices for either actor. I don't like that Kato is a gadget man, that leaves the Green Hornet to be truly useless. My vision (mind you this was 5 yrs ago) cast Will Ferrell as the Green Hornet. I never had a Kato nailed down. It's impossible to replace Bruce Lee. However, I thought Kato should be kept very much an "Ok, Boss" type of guy. I would have had Will Ferrell be a bumbling kind of guy who gets bored with his pointless extravagant life. Then he compulsively decides he wants to use his wealth & resources to fight crime. It's the unrealistic, dangerous whym of a man-child. His sole talent is making useless gadgets, which become his mostly-failing crime fighting gadgets. The problem is, Will get his ass beat and nearly dies his first night out. He asks his asian butler, "Please don't be offended, but...do you know karate?" "No, boss. But I know Kung Fu." So Will brings Kato with him to fight crime, and we basically find out Kato is a super badass. The Green Hornet and Kato strike fear into hearts of the evil doers. But the crime boss realizes Kato is the real threat. Kato is tricked and kidnapped. Now it's up to the Green Hornet to save his best friend Kato, all on his own, but can he? Rated R for Retarded Fun.
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I'll be doing my best to avoid seeing it.
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The problem with your version is the audience has no-one to root for. Granted this one has Seth Rogen doing a poor job of the same thing, but they're trying to have us root for him.
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I'll probably see it. But not in 3D
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Rogen's range does not extend into suave territory, and that is the Green Hornet's whole persona. Bah.
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Maybe we'll get the '67 series on DVD, timed to this turd's release. Here's hoping.
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egad.
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really has a very low standard for movies. That looked like total shit.
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the studio has no faith in this film.
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It's nothing personal Seth but this is just not the role for you brah. Stick to stuff like Pineapple Express and Knocked Up. Leave the super hero shit to the right actors. It's like taking a rapper and watching them try their hands at being a country singer. Stick with what you know.
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It's that damn voice...it's horrible...plus he just irritates me.
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F you Rogan, I thought you were going to be "action rogan" no, you're just slightly thinner seth rogan. What a lame trailer, what was with that Iron Man music through-out???? And Chow would have been a great Kato, this new guy blows. ARRGH! Only positive thing about it I can say is that it at least doesn't look cheap. Wow, my hope was slaughtered tonight. What a waste. Will I still check it out in the theater? Sure, but I won't be first in line.
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So many damn things wrong with that trailer it hurts.
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Cameron Diaz. Horribly miscast.
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Don't try to sell this as Iron Man. It has to be funny to work.
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not much though. Is the world dying to pay 20 to see a 3d action pic with Seth Rogan?
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that one glimpse of Kato-vision was the greatest thing in this trailer.<br><br>it shows that it really is a Michel Gondry movie, i cant wait to see me some kato-vision in 3D
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First off with Gondry directing, I expected the movie to look a lot better. There's no style to the movie at all. No one really cares about The Green Hornet. Seth Rogen doesn't work in this. I can't see him being physical at all. I just don't buy that he can actually beat someone up. I also think that Seth can't really carry a movie. He's better when he's in a supporting role or having someone to play off of. I just don't think Kato is the kind of person who brings the best out of Seth. And, didn't Gondry and Seth say that the movie wasn't a comedy, that it was a straight up action/comic book movie? It looked like they were going for laughs to me. I just think this movie is doomed. Rogen isn't an action star, he's never going to be an action star. This will bomb and then he's up for his cancer movie. Great career moves!
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Rogen wrote it...uh, you know, the writer from friggin SUPERBAD...and the director of Eternal Sunshine. Totally tired of the supermovies that take themselves way too seriously.
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Again, people bash trailers so much but trailers don't really matter. I have faith in Gondry and I think the guy playing Kato is spot on.
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I think they have a hit on their hands, the people who are shouting BOMB are the same people who said Avatar would bomb...and look how that turned out. Nah, this trailer is funny, full of action, Kato is amazing and Seth has a big enough following that plenty of folks will be interested in this. I know it sold me. Looks fun and pretty damn cool. I'm there.
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First, let's take a classic pulp era good guy and turn him into a parody of himself. Then, let's take his classic signature theme (FLIGHT OF THE BUMBLEBEE) and replace it by a truly painful soundtrack. Then, let's thrown in gobs of that wildly overused 'bullet time'. OK, all I need to know to give it a wide miss.
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June 22, 2010, 6:18 a.m. CST
the coolest thing about this story that everyone is missing
by BillboeFett
is that the Jimmy Kimmel Live show will be shown Tues night recorded entirely from Jimmy's webcam on his Mac... fucking awesome.
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debate the merits of LOST, ask why Herc ignores SUPERNATURAL, or maybe why Harry is so fat? </BR> <p> <P> How about whateverhappenedtotitsoutforattentiongirl???
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it thought my run-on sentence was actually a web URL link so it broke it up. Fucking ghey
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Or does it have the same rights problems that is keeping the '66 BATMAN series from being released on DVD?
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I sent a [more politely phrased] query to the people running AICN about the perky Script Girl but never received an answer. She headed off on holidays ... about a year ago, never came back. Did she get run over by a truck? Did her boss find out what she was doing and sicced lawyers on her? Your guess is as good as mine.
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She looks awful in Knight and Day.
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...not feeling it in the slightest. I hope I'm wrong for nostalgia's sake, but I don't think so. Wrong spirit, wrong tone, wrong 'actor'. I like Gondry...but nope.
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June 22, 2010, 9:43 a.m. CST
What happened to the trailer that was posted here is morning?
by mojoman69
Did Columbia pull it? Looks ok, but ai would have preferred a noirish version of GH rather that a comedic version.
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fuck yeah!
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Somebody please put a bullet in Rogen's head and just end all our misery.
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Finally watched it last night.Fuck the haters man I laughed the entire time and the action was big goofy fun. This looks like a more serious Pineapple Express. I'm in the group that wanted a bad ass GH like George Clooney or Matt Damon,hell I would have liked Ryan Reynolds in this type of movie but maybe this will work .Looks like something i'd watch.
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I don't know why aicn stopped posting her stuff, but Scriptgirl has a presence on youtube as scriptgirl411 and the account was last signed in 5 days ago, even though she hasn't any new vids up in awhile.
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fucking polluted the hottest chick on the planet. tell me you would eat her out knowing ryans cock has been there? thought not!
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observe and report was disturbingly funny. their take on the hornet looks different. don't need the 3-D. give me back my son.
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I bet she now has yellow fever
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and the Standard logo IS upside down. Poor Gondry.
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is a hotel in Hollywood and L.A., their logo has always been upside down
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...should have stuck with voicing Kermit the Frog instead of faking his own death and overdubbing Seth Rogen with that 'hilarious' comedy voice. It's not working out for either of them.
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If Rogen isn't his usual, really annoying self. Still don't like his casting. Films success is largely dependent on that.
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Cyberskunk - The last video on that site was by someone else standing in for her and that was last year.
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are spinning in their graves after seeing this trailer. Rogen is more suited to play Homer in a live action Simpsons than this. This is beyond the nightmare that I thought it would be when it was first announced.
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..Peter Griffin in a live action family guy movie. not the fucking green hornet. Blasphemy, I say...
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I wonder if there's any explanation about it on her myspace page. I see her account name is the same there but I just scanned it briefly. If there's no explanation on youtube, I'd guess there's no explanation on myspace.
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I see she also has a facebook page, but that could just as well have been taken over by someone else.
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Lostboytexass makes a very astute point. To take the time out of his obviously busy day to contribute such a well-reasoned observation to the discussion... Well, I'm in awe of his stunning wit and good taste, that's all. I never would have thought to link a Seth Rogen movie trailer to "eating out Scarlett Johansen... polluted by Ryan Reynold's cock." Sir, you clearly have a bright future as a registered sex offender ahead of you. Keep up the good work. I think we're all anxious for your next probing dissection of recent film news.
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or at least the scent of a good scary villain.
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I have a heart for the great female editors. Her, and Thelma. And really, any of the great editors, despite gender.) Great editing is a true and beautiful art. I did not know Menke was involved - one more thing to make me excited for this project.
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The negativity in this place is just depressing. Do you people get off on being this bitter? Jesus Christ.
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I think this looks fun as hell. I love the 60's series, but I'm more than open for this interpretation.
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CHRISTOPH WALTZ.
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It looks just as bad as I thought it would be. Seth is playing the same character he plays in every single movie he ever made!
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A reluctant loser decides. What if I actually became a superhero? Can I do it?
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I don't think Van Williams is dead. And you know you would do Diaz in a New York heartbeat if you had the chance. I will go see this but with expectations appropriately lowered.
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And I love most of the cast. But I'm still not sure about Seth Rogen as the Green Hornet. The trailer kind of makes it seem like it's Seth Rogen playing the guy he's played in every other movie, pretending to be the Green Hornet. Still, I'm pretty excited for this one. I totally dig Gondry and have quite a bit of faith in him. And like I said, the rest of the cast appears pretty solid. Figuring I'll probably be in the theater for this one.
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What a mess. And if they cross over with The Dark Knight I'm gonna go apeshit.
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more like a fun time pineapple express in superhero mode. that aside i will watch every movie gondry has his hands on.
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the one where everyone was saying how it looked horrible, and harry thought the car kick scene was cool? where did it go?
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Seth Rogan may be the most one dimensional actor since Tiny 'Zeus' Lister Jr.
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Hell, this looks more 80s TV series than the A Team movie.
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Now that it's really going for the 3D treatment. People will be spending their 3D Box Office dollars for Tron in December.
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Just terrible. Could mean a flop.
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Deebo's gonna knock you the fuck out!<p>and you know this... maaaaaaaaan!!
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...to point out that the January release date is a sure sign of danger. But, you know? For a movie that's approaching with a lot of negative buzz, I think it looks pretty darn entertaining. The angle they take w/Rogen's character is spot-on to fit his casting. And Chou looks tremendous in his part. If they balance the humor and action in the movie as well as they do in the trailer, this could be an unexpected charmer (at least for the Hornet-geek crowd).
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if thinking of scarletts vagine 24-7 makes me a sex offender then i shall wear that badge with pride! with pride, muthafucka!
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June 22, 2010, 5:26 p.m. CST
Character from Observe & Report & Pineapple Express as Green Hor
by Orionsangels
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at being a hit. It looks like they've got the action, and Rogen is playing it like his usual slacker self instead of pretending he's an action-hero from the get go. It's unclear though if his uncle was the original Green Hornet & he's taking up his mantle - as it should be w/Rogen in the lead - or not. I dunno... taking a wait-and-see approach w/this one.
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i'm as straight as the washington monument, but that Chou dude is a good looking asian man. the kind of dude dudes want to be. is that wrong?
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Most of the worst turkeys are dumped in January and September.
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WTF. A few laughs but it doesn't look that great just based off the trailer.
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in anything? She's looking pretty rough. Actually has been for while now. And she can't act, so there's that too.
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looks like it could be a cool movie.
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"Way to go, Girlname Gonorrhea! You and your writing buddies, unnEvan Goldsuck and Seth needsRogaine have lens flared up some epic fail! Hope you all like your FAILHornet !!!1!" Amidoinitrite?
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Flop.
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Not a chance. Looks like a very nicely produced, smirky piece of crap.
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This thing is gonna be a trainwreck, no way the get an even tone. Looks like Mystery Men 2.
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nothin like some one syllable sentences to spruce a movie up<p> Look what it did for Jonah Hex
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By not making a LONE RANGER movie first. Seriously. GH is Lone Ranger's grand nephew (well, originally in the 30s & 40s). You make a LR movie and it is good you can ride on its coattails and not have to worry about people comparing it to Batman.
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...and see if it doesn't kick ASS. http://www.youtube.com/watchv=O6baKbRQrt4
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I can't fathom it. But I love a good pettycoat movie. I'm in.
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Yes, thinking of it 24-7 is about as close to hers or any other vagina that you're gonna get in this lifetime pal. Go back to the celebrityskin.com comment board. They miss you.
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Why did Spidey 1&2, IM, and Nolan's Bats 1&2 make bank and delight the fans? Because they STAYED TRUE TO THE SOURCE. Everyone said IM would be a moderate success at best, after all, Tony Stark is just a second-rate Bruce Wayne, but the film cleaned up at the BO. That's because RDJ understood the character that Stan created, and made him come to life on the screen. These ASSWIPES have no idea who the Green Hornet is and it shows. The only thing they got right was the car. Oh shit, that's a lift from 66-67, so congratulations, YOU GOT NOTHING RIGHT. Now I know how Wolverine fans feel.
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you Americans now hold premieres for the trailer for a 3rd rate "American culture" superhero film?
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I don't get the hate for Wolverine. <p> Simply because his comic-book backstory isn't all that. Everything up to Japan for him is so so. And they're obligated to show the Weapon X stuff in a prequel - otherwise what's the point? </p> <p> Besides which, if I'm really being nerdy... his backstory is the least relevant part of his character. They shouldn't have made a prequel, because demystifying Wolverine makes him just another character.
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People here are bitter as fuck - it's really sad. Sure this doesn't look like the greatest movie ever but who the fuck expected a Green Hornet movie to be one. I've seen far worse trailers then this, and Chou looks pretty fucking cool. Honestly if I were Seth Rogen and was reading this shit I would laugh at how sad the nerds on this site are.
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And not once did you praise Rogen's performance. <p> I hope he is reading this, because he doesn't get it. At all. The gas-gun clip alone shows he doesn't understand the superhero genre. For all the Iron Man talk, Tony Stark didn't do anything that goofy. Because, while these films should have fun elements, ideally they'd take themselves seriously enough not to have a grown man shoot himself in the face. </p> <p> I mean WHAT point does that serve? It makes GH look like an absolute putz, and really makes the mind boggle as to why Kato would need his assistance at all. </p>
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I'm not seeing this movie, life is way too fucking short.
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you are aware that George Clooney has some form with playing "super heroes", aren't you?
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was any 'fear' that it might be good. Rogen is the least-charismatic actor working today. And take out whatever's in his bottom lip.
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whats funny is that as im reading your post im tongue-fucking your grandmothers grey twat. thought i would share
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The guy constantly has the highly cliche "WOW, LOOK HOW COOL THAT WAS!" after every f'n scene! Not believable at all. "WOW, I KILLED A DUDE WITH A ROCKET LAUNCHER? SO COOL!"
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I GET TO DRIVE A CAR AND DO KUNG-FU WITH AN ASIAN GUY?! WOW!
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Still such a long way to go until January...
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Did his father work for Blackpool?
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That is funny. And sounds about right, since my grandmother's been in a grave for about ten years and a rotting corpse might actually have sex with you. Might. Just don't set your goals too much higher, Mongo.
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i was thinking of scarlett the whole time i was defiling your grandmothers corpse. is that bad?<p>PROTIP: if you're ever gonna fuck a corpse make sure you bring lots of lube. I had to improvise with Burger King ketchup packets. redwings anyone?
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where everyone except the main characters exist in 2010? If you're going to retcon the story to 2010, i dunno, maybe Kato should wear an UnderArmor T-shirt and Green Hornet should wear an Ireland soccer jersey or something. I dont get why the main characters are wearing clothes from a Goodwill clearance rack in this movie.<p> Bad artistic choices being made here.
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Burger King. Perfect. Okay, so here's the picture you've painted: Unfunny, overweight virgin in your mother's basement, surrounded by fast food wrappers, shifting your musty ass at the computer only when it's time to jerk off for the twelfth time today. (Now you come back with another "shocking" sex joke. I can't wait. Go.)
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i apologize for painting the wrong picture in your mind. lets start again:<p>picture this: <p>-me. <p>-you. <p>-a rusty fire hydrant. <p>me raping your mouth with said rusty fire hydrant. you loving it. <p>I've hit a creative block trying to find an appropriate title for the DVD of this encounter. Perhaps you could utilize that formidable imagination of yours to assist?<p>all proceeds will be donated to the Haitian Rectal Prolapse Fund care of Wyclef Jean.
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There ya go, Little One. Fire hydrant mouth rape. A little desperate but theoretically "Shocking." Do it again. This time, with more virgin-fueled sexual frustration and rage. Remember, you want the audience to really FEEL just how sad and lonely your life is. Really go for it. if it helps, just picture the black hole of nothingness that is your daily existence... Picturing it? Now go...
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you lost me at the part where im supposed to make the audience feel how sad and lonely my life really is. alas i cant help you with your request as my life if actually quite awesome and fun. not in a 'jerking off to star wars' kinda way that youre so accustomed to though. <p>speaking of black holes, how your fathers anus holding up these days? I've never heard of someone getting 90 rectal stitches before but when you let a horse assfuck you then what can you expect?
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Oh you're just precious. "You lost me at..." You must say that phrase a few times a day, huh. Ok, Little One, I'll slow down for you. Let's recap, shall we. You've covered eating out my dead gramma, raping my mouth with a fire hydrant, and a horse assfucking my father. No repeats, now. Go again. You're gonna run out of family members. Better cover mom. Knock me out, genius.
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i would love to cover your mom... with jizz... again!
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Great! We can scratch her off the list now. Go again. This stuff is comic gold.
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After the midnight ass rape of AVATAR, I'm done with 3-D movies. It's nothing more than a money-grab and just doesn't bring anything to the movie-watching experience (except a headache and an overwhelming wish that you hadn't sprung for the extra $3-$8 3-D ticket price).
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...based on a trailer. Seth Rogen is unbelievably popular as a comic actor so obviously the marketing of this film is going to try and cash in on that. To do so they have to show him as we all know him. Sure, there is every chance it will be very similar to other Rogen roles. But until we know for certain, getting all indignant about it is pointless. After all, there is a reason why Academy members are given full-length screeners and not two-minute trailers: trailers don't show shit.
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June 25, 2010, 2:37 p.m. CST
We CAN judge Rogen's performance based on a trailer
by TheGhostWhoLurks
Because we've seen his schtick 5000 times BEFORE! If they WANT to bring in audiences other than those who actually LIKE his usual drunk/stoned, slacker, hairy loser roles, the filmmakers would have to show that in the trailers to get non-Seth Rogen fans to buy a ticket.<p>For me, I HATE Seth Rogen's films because his characters are the type of annoying asses who aren't funny in real life and are even LESS funny when I'm expected to spend money and time watching their antics for 2 hours. This Green Hornet trailer promises more of the same crap, except THIS time, he's a "superhero" with no talents whatsoever and no brains... exactly the OPPOSITE of what I want to see in a superhero film! >:O<p>HORRIBLE trailer promising a HORRIBLE film, starring a HORRIBLE actor. Overall, a HORRIBLE rendition of what should've been a very cool movie, if they'd only had the BRAINS to take it seriously and play it straight.<p>Best superhero films? Iron Man, Superman, The Dark Knight, Spider-Man 2, Blade 2. What did they all have in common??? The filmmakers didn't treat them as JOKES and played them relatively straight.<p>I honestly can't believe that so many of you guys have such crummy standards when it comes to superhero films that you'd actually think this trailer promises a decent movie! As long as you continue supporting this sub-standard garbage, films with real action stars like Michael Jai White will continue to go DTV, while studios continue to pump out more celluloid sewage like Rogen's "Green Hornet" for the brainless masses!<p>To see what the Green Hornet film SHOULD have been like, go to the following URL. Then come back and tell us how "great" Rogen's joke of a film will be.>:P<p>http://tinyurl.com/2qwjg9
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JUST LOOK AT THAT TRAILER - MAKES YOU WANT TO PUKE YOUR GUTS OUT! IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE CRAPPY CASTING OF THE HORNET HIMSELF. THIS IS UNQUALIFIED, 100% PURE STINKING SHIT. IT'S "THE SPIRIT" ALL OVER AGAIN.....AND ANYONE WHO CAN'T SEE THAT IS BLIND. THIS IS "JONAH HEX" WITHOUT MEEGAN -- IT'S ALL DICKWAD, BABY.
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