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Is A Wave of Marvel Mini-Movies On The Way??
Merrick here...
Sources for Latino Review say Marvel's looking into an ingenious way to introduce crowds to its "secondary characters." Does "secondary" mean B-list? I'm thinking it does...
Got a scoop from a well trusted source that Marvel/Disney are looking at doing 10 minute short films in front of their feature length movies that will introduce secondary characters like Black Panther, Luke Cage, Dr. Strange, etc.
...says LR HERE.
I can easily imagine this happening. 'Twould be a high-visibility, low-impact means of not only exposing audiences to characters not as familiar as, say, IRON MAN or CAPTAIN AMERICA - and would also serve as an excellent mechanism for gauging public and fan interest in seeing those same characters revisited in a longer format.
LR pointedly reminds us to consider this a "rumor" until more information is gleaned, but it's a fascinating (and fun) idea that I'd love to see put into motion.
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like it could be fun!
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I guess it depends on the format.
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It won't happen, it will remain a nice rumour and that's all
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that would be cool. Kind of like the expectation of a Pixar short before everyone of their movies.
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several months ago?
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10 solid minutes of Scarlett struttin' her shit is fine by me.
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Our plan is to makes them about 8-12 minutes long and have them attached to the begining of future marvels film. also expect some to show up as bonus features on blurrays, I just ok'd a costume design for the 9 minute ant man film that will premere on the iron man 2 bluray in september. Ant man is set to appear in avengers and if the minimovie is well received an ant man movie will be int he works for 2014
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Jun 21, 2010 11:33:54 AM CDT
I can't type, and I meant Black Widow.
by sam_jay_jick_donutly_dildoclip
I'm a fucking retard.
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Is if the cartoons will exist within the marvel movieverse or be seperate?
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they always have a bunch of info to pass off AFTER a story is posted. you'd think being so deep in hollywood and being in the know, they'd mention things before any announcement is made. instead this makes it obvious that any info that may be acurate was obviously found from searching the web once they read the story. its not hard to create a believable false personality on the internet, you just need to work harder at it and actually try. ;)
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That would be great.
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Ditko fans demand it!
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do it like disney pixar, like a short film before the main event. just a thought
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I was going to post a twit about the costume desing for theant man film this morning, but i got stuck in a meeting with warner brothers executives about batman 3
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Moon Knight please.
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Featuring Ray Park as Danny Rand? And there's still no (further) word regarding the Deathlok film.Fuck, Marvel make it so!!
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As long as you stay away form time travel everythings peachy.
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But wouldn't it make more sense to use one of Disney or ABC's channels to run a Marvel Tales live action show? Slot it for 1 hour per episode and cover any of the dozens of lower budget characters like Iron Fist, Ka-Zar, Brother Voodoo, Luke Cage, Ant Man, Doc, Nova, Moon Knight, etc. etc.
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I get the idea and I think it's fairly smart, but how would they then present them? Attached to other movies? Direct to TV? What's a good outlet for this sort of thing that's actually going to feed them back any information?
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it's called The Soceror's Apprentace staring nic cage. :0P
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after they saw the Jonah Hex numbers.
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oh....its just too easy so i wont. :P
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@Jett's occasionally funny but mostly it's just getting old. I know you're an attention whore but time to lay off and find a different hobby.
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I'm actually pretty excited to see SA. I have hope for good things from that flick.
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They'd air them before the feature films. READ the article. I'm all for this but it just feels like it won't ever happen.
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... that Marvel Ultimate Alliance (both video games) is a good introduction and probably has better story lines than most Marvel snoozefests.
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...unless they're animated. Don't get me wrong, because I know quality animation's not cheap, but still often less so than spending the amount necessary to create believable sets and costumes and actors necessary to create something that movie audiences will immerse themselves into. if they resign themselves to shorts, they're goign to resign themselves to making them as cheap as possible. They'll hire young talented directors with something to prove (like the previous rumor about allowing young Turks to make full features of their b-list heroes in the 20-30 million dollar range), but they'll never pony up the scratch to make a short look as good as it needs to look to generate interest in a feature. What makes more sense is basically what they're doing in leading up to the Avengers movie - introduce characters from one movie, briefly, in the story of another movie. Introduce a character - not even necessarily the hero AS the hero but as their alter ego - the fanboys will pee a little, there will be talkback, and interest will be gauged from there with only minimal bitching from people wondering why Poo-Flinging Man's secret identity, Star Stainly, introduces himself to Tony Stark in Iron Man 3, when Poo-Flinging Man has NOTHING TO DO with Iron Man except for that one Marvel Team Up they had with Spidey in Issue Elventy-Seven-Pi, but man's that's a one-off, and so uncool to make people think Poo-Flinging Man actually exists in Tony Stark's Universe when EVERYBODY knows Poo-Flinging Man exists in a parallel universe where Hitler won the war and Ann Coulter's actually a woman!
...uh...so...yeah, makes more sense, and does the actual characters, a greater service by introducing them in a full feature, to any degree, rather than risk making a cheap crappy looking short that will besmirch the feature wo which it's attached.
Of course, what would be just as awful from a movie maker's standpoint would be just the opposite, that miraculously a good short is made but attached to an unwatchable feature, so all the buzz is on how much better the 1.2 million dollar short looks compared to Fantastic Four 3: This Time, It's Execrable. -
It turned into annoying, then humorous, and now it's just boring. Try something new man, I'm rooting for you.
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This is the equivalent of having Spidey, swing by in the backround of a Thor Comic trying to rush home with Gravy for aunt May...just a quick flash to see that they are IN the Marvel U. This sounds like a great idea.
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Jun 21, 2010 12:09:21 PM CDT
FUCK YOUR TEN MINUTE DOCTOR STRANGE MOVIE
by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights
I will accept no less than 90 minutes for that guy. He's a fucking pro and deserves a big movie.Can Iron Man fucking do magic? I thought not.
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...the 20 minutes of fucking commercials we have to watch now. It's amazing how high ticket prices are but their advertising revenue is higher than ever.
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than alot of animated fluff that aired on the networks during the past four years.(Post justice league of course)I think if marvel hired hudlin for writing and directing a BP movie, it would come off as an instant success. Can't say the same for Luke Cage.
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Imagine the directors and actors they could get for just ten minutes worth of work. I say go for it.
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So when they decide they're doing a full scale tentpole movie of one of those short film characters, they'd have the fanboys bitching and moaning that the cast from the "original" short film fit the comic book character much better than the new one. They also can't risk making a 100+ million bucks movie staring Joe Nobody in the lead, because Joe Average and his girlfriend won't buy tickets for that.
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Don't know how they could do it but that would be perfect
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Call it Marvel Comics Presents!
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It would allow them to give longer than a paltry ten minutes to a character. It would be somewhat similar to Sin City.
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But in the right hands, we got a pair of pretty awesome movies.
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So they could do 10 minute film of Cyclops. Since he didn't get 10 minutes of film time the first 3 (4) movies combined.
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than a movie that seems like 10 hours of one.
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Jun 21, 2010 12:22:23 PM CDT
FUCK "SORCEROR'S APPRENCTICE". WE WANT "DOCTOR STRANGE"
by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights
He's blast the fuck out of Nic Wiggy Cage in a nano-second.
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I really love this idea and hope it works out. It sounds like a fantastic way to cover the origin of secondary characters. Also, depending on the (de)compression of the story, many existing single issue one-shot stories would work as an outline for a short film. This could really kick ass.
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seriously? Sam Jackson got a 9 picture deal to play Nick Fury (who was white in the comics, btw). Luke Cage and Black Panther aren't secondary characters because they were black, they were secondary because they were lame and never sold very well. For Black Panther they would have to go into him being Storm's hubby, her and him ruling Wakanda, and so on. Not very interesting material for a Summer action flick. And Luke Cage was cool, but he'd be better as part of a team - a movie on his own would probably end up as bad as Steel was with Shaq. I'd love to see a reinvigorated Blade franchise, wouldn't even mind Wesley returning, but Trinity cast such a bad metrosexual Dracula-style shadow over the series that they'd probably have to start over.Actually, give me a Midnight Sons movie with Blade, Ghost Rider, Dr. Strange, and Morbius. THAT? would be fun.But seriously, don't complain about a race thing if the characters suck to begin with. It's almost as bad as CNN's recent attempts to cause a stir because a white woman (Jolie) was recently up for a new film about Cleopatra, even though history has proven she was Macedonian and Greek, and not black to begin with.And don't make Spider-Man black, either, I don't care what internet petition wants it. I'm all for equal rights in casting, but don't change the gender or race of a beloved character just so you can pat yourself on the back about how "progressive" you are.
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You get a character like Vision or Cannonball and don't want to eat up actual movie time. I really like this idea. You could even hold the shorts until the second week of release to give geeks a reason to come back another time. Think how much fun this will be in 10-15 years when they put out Marvel Shorts on DVD (or holo-crystal or whatever).
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for Ghost Rider and Punisher. They clearly can't sustain beyond a half-hour.
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Jun 21, 2010 12:29:04 PM CDT
THE TITLES FOR "DOCTOR STRANGE" SHOULD FEATURE...
by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights
"People Are Strange" by The Doors.
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So she had some black in her. :)
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if it serves as a test to see if audiences would like to see a feature length film with these 'B-list' characters. If that's what the studio's intention is then I'm ok with it. Of course I'd rather see Dr Strange or Iron Fist get their own two-hour films, but if an interest among the public isn't sparked first then 'B-list' movies could crash and burn.
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What, no "STRANGE MAGIC" by ELO? (Yeah, yeah, it would sound really stupid.)
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would be perfect.
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An original, fun idea coming out of Hollywood in 2010. Amazing. Well, except that shorts before films isn't new - but the whole introduce people to lesser known comic chars thing is a pretty smart idea, frankly.
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Ed Quinn for dr.strange
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I've gotta agree with some of hte above posters. The gig is up already. Nobody cares about your schtick anymore. Time to get a new hobby, friend.
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She was from the Ptolemy line of Pharoahs, who were incredibly protective of their bloodline, and they came from Macedonia. They also inbred to keep their lines pure, and never, never bred with the true Egyptians, because that was considered beneath them. Cleopatra was pure Macedonian and Greek. Her skin was likely the olive color of most Greeks, but she was fair skinned and not black, or even African in any way. That is historical fact (as is that she wasn't as beautiful as Hollywood makes her out to be - supposedly she was kind of ugly and it was more her power that was so seductive to Marc Anthony). You can look it up, dude, she had absolutely no Egyptian or African in her bloodline.
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either Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Hugh Laurie, or Liam Neeson
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I think these mini-movies are a great idea. Oh, and IRON FIST!!!
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He WINS and is going strong.
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I see the obvious intention behind an idea like this, but these aren't the 30's and 40's. As effects and production-saavy as audiences are these days, then besides potentially confusing and annoying audiences that might not GET the point right away, such "mini-movies" could work against Marvel if, say, low or diminishing production quality (not to mention the inherent limitations in casting) made otherwise good, promising characters look less attractive, particularly on the silver screen. If they do this, then, it should probably be done on television, maybe in front of cable and premium channel airings of their feature-length films - so as to get roughly the same exposure without the heightened expectations of a cinematic experience. Besides which, television has been a major competitor of cinema for years anyhow - they'd probably have more success and get quicker, more accurate results doing this on television than in front of their cinematic offerings, which could be hurt if preceded by a less-than-stellar mini-movie that audiences have to sit through every single time they go - especially considering the way in which these genre films generally benefit from repeat-viewings.
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...Moon Knight! Bring it on!
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Often wondered what would happen if studios did serials, like in the Olden Dayes. The stuff that inspired Lucas and Spielberg. Would be pretty funky to get a new Star Wars / Indy where each chapter runs half-an-hour and people go back week after week to watch 'em. No DVDs, no online release (initially). Of course it would never work, I know that, but it would be fun! Then again, there are so called web-series using the model. That new Buck Rogers thing. And anyone seen the trailer for "The Republic"? Youtube it. Some web series starring Marc Singer, Beastmaster (and Donovan from the original - AND ONLY - "V" - fuck that tepid retread) ... and by Christ does it look absolutely dreadful. Which is why web series suck. But I have digressed somewhat. Yeah, bring this Marvel shit on, say I !
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He's the talkback's own stand-up comic. Everyone's in on the gag. There are people round here recycling their act and hijacking talkback after talkback that I'd much rather see booted.
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He's worth it, really. Marvel could use some magic! However, I'm down with the idea of 10 min features, and if they compiled a bunch into a film, my butt would be in the theatre.
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Idiots at Marvel titled her comic that until someone pointed out that Were-Woman means Man-Woman
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your passive entertainments. Heavy Rain is far more intriquing than the cute return to Toy Story 3D. God of War 3 is the excitement of ironman 2 times a trillion. Red Dead Redemption is simply the greatest western ever made. So basically I don't care if you announce a new pixar marvel movie. That wouldn't excite me nearly as much as hearing that pixar is paying rockstar 150 mil to make a marvel game in the Jack Kirby style that encompasses then entire pantheon of marvel heroes. Basically Lucasarts and paramount need to pay rockstar as well. Just give them your properties people. Give them starwars and trek and anything else you think is cool and let them go off.
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Up here in Soviet Canuckistan, we used to always get National Film Board cartoons before the feature. I miss those days.
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My suggestions for the first three.
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Jett we all have been talking about Doctor Strange a lot, are you hearing anything that would make you think this could be a solid upcoming project, or do the suits find it not accessible enough for the masses? Would this be a ten minute short possibility?
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..NovaAdam Warlock? (based on Starlin's run)Killraven?Werewolf by night?Machine Man? Ah, the possibilities if not great potentual.
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feature. At the very least i'd like an anthology with 4 half hour stories. One could be a marvel zombies tale. Have different directors for each story. One could be a watcher tale. I'm thinking creepshow meets a darker, more experimental marvel feature. Call the movie Marvels or something
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because you know, the 10 minute DC Spectre animated short sucked. Right. They do these well and the pay off could be huge. Animated would be easier, but not, by default, better.
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Dr. Strange's origins could be explained in a 10 minute "mini-clip". Leave it with a mini-cliffhanger ending. Then, you don't have to waste valuable time in the full length movie explaining how he got his powers, and can just jump into the adventure. Do this for the "bigger" characters. For minor characters, you can just to ten minute stories that encapsulate what they are about.
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And use whatever actors they want to use for the full-length film. For instance, if they do an Ant Man short, have Nathan Fillion in it.
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Jun 21, 2010 1:26:33 PM CDT
They can get Origin Stories out of the way, even for Villains
by george newman
I'm growing tired of 45-minute lead-ins to the superheroes. Let's rededicate that time towards deeper plots, or at least street dancing.
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is because they will not fall under the contract laid out with fox andf sony, meaning if we want to do a spidey or x-men short film then we are entitled too, just as long as it's attached to a marvel film and it doesn't exceed 29 minutes. The films cannot be sold seperatley and they must not contain any trademarked items (such as sony's spider-man letterhead or Fox's x-men soundtrack) If they are 100 percent orginal production, under 29 minutes and not soley marketed as individual films, Marvel and disney has the right to use any character in it's catelog.disney's lawqyers are hard at work trying to get these film rights back butfor now we can make short films and attach them to marvel films that will currently be released through paramount studios
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he means they called him up at Pizza Hut to place an order for delivery.
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I hope this is true, and comes to fruition.
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I'm not going to go as far as Ebert and say video games are definitively not art, but no video game I've ever played has ever come close to the immersion and emotional experience of a book or a movie or song or even a comic. They're technically stunning, but still nowhere near as artistically fulfilling as work in most any other medium. Artistically, I'd rank them around the level of Bazooka Joe comics that accompany gum. Even the best the medium has to offer (such as RDR, which I'm currently quite enjoying) is just made up of a bunch of ideas and influences that were done a million times better in the western movies from which they were ripped off. If you think RDR is a more genuine artistic experience than the Wild Bunch or The Good The Bad and The Ugly. Some video games transcend the medium and are what I would consider true art, but the ones that most people champion as the most incredible examples of the medium (GTA, for example) are usually just transparent rip-offs of scenes and stories that were much more effective when they were first done in movies like Scarface, Boyz in The Hood, etc. Until video games STOP trying to just imitate the established work that other mediums did better originally, they will never be more satisfying as a seamless artistic experience than established forms of narrative art. So enjoy your PS3 but don't think video games are going to replace movies anytime soon. -
And don't give them TV-quality effects. Feature existing, known and established cameos with the same actors playing the parts in the features. And maybe interconnect them. Either have them cross-over into each other, other feature films or focus on a longer form story spread out like the old serials. MUST feature 3D man, if only to piss off 3d-hating talkbackers and their ILK. (why does that word sound familiar? it is oddly similar to the word GOTLIK.. yet... spelled correctly instead..?)Free ideas...Must do a surreal, strange, high-budget 8-Ball short featuring 8-Ball visiting a technology convention in Las Vegas with amnesia and a strange nemesis named "Cue" with a stick for a head following him around but not threatening him in any "specific" way.Abraxas is stood up on a date with a very important man and seeks revenge by manipulating the fabric of reality , causing all of the man's friends to think he wears bell-bottoms and has a mullet.Cyber, while battling a particularly evil psionic enemy with a mean streak, finds his powers to manipulate, track and utilize human brains limited only to humans physically present at the DMV, leading to a deep and unprecedented depression. In the short he seeks the help of a psychiatrist who believes he is delusional. Since the psychiatrist is very green-minded, he does not own a car and never visits the DMV, making the act of convincing him otherwise one of the greatest challenges of his super-career. Hilarity, no doubt, ensues.DARWIN finds himself at a "Promise Keepers" rally and uses his superhuman ability to adapt by causing himself to no longer believe in himself.Howard The Duck returns to the big screen, the right way this time focusing on his short-lived run for the US Presidency. This time, however, in spite of them thinking he's simply a dwarf in a duck suit, the Tea Party gives him their full endorsement and he un-seats Obama in a landslide win after accepting the endorsement, wrongly assuming the Tea Party movement was an attempt by the British to re-establish power over the colonies. He is impeached after a short time for mentioning the word "BONG" repeatedly in interviews, giving the public the impression that he is a stoner when in fact he is only obsessing over his arch-enemy.And at a major republican fundraiser, he is videotaped saying "who does a guy have to pluck to get a drink around here" and is universally misunderstood/censored.RAGE , after years of anger management changes his name to "Disappointed" when he realizes "Negative thinking is a bad habit that I choose to stop" and "I fill my mind with beautiful and beneficial thoughts" are really bad names for a superhero.SONGBIRD is sued by the recording industry association of America (RIAA) for several public and specific combinations of chords produced by her superhuman and polyphonic vocal cords. A holding company, at the same time, invokes a non-specific patent claim against her vocal cord replacement technology. At her second court hearing with the holding company , fearing they will repossess her replacement vocal cords, she emanates what is known as "brown noise" and causes everyone, including the aging and unwell judge, to spontaneously lose control of their bowels, leading to the dehydration death of the judge. She is forced to flee the country and finds herself one of the world's highest paid phonesex workers in India.Starfox drinks one too many beers at a festival concert and inadvertently uses his uncontrollable power to stimulate the pleasure centers of all human beings within 25 feet of him to "stimulate" several underage concertgoers and is now a a sex offender under house arrest. He is ordered to stay 25 feet away from children at all times and must notify his new neighbors when he moves in by an interpeter who stands 26 feet away from HIM. He sadly commits suicide at 11pm following a particularly frustrating Halloween evening in 2013 after years of girl scout cookie and Mormon "misunderstandings".The Administrator is downsized out of a job and replaced by a telecommuting Korean man.Absalom, bored with his way of life, auditions to be a singer for a screamo band and is mocked mercilessly not as much for his hair but more for his vocal style which harkens back to the more flamboyant age of stadium metal such as Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. He reacts by extending his bone-spikes through the heart of the band members and begins serving a life sentence for multiple murders. Music fans across the world begin a "free Absalom" movement.Use 'em if ya want, Marvel. I live a comfortable, frugal lifestyle and do not require the rewards you have to offer.
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After GL, about the only comic book movie I am interested in is for Hollywood to finally do the Authority. I want some Apollo and Midnighter manlove on screen.
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When I went to the theaters as a child, we usually had a newsreel, a a pair of cartoons, and a good double feature. And this was back when a theater had a HUGE screen and would sit well over 1500 people. That was value for my &1.00 admission fee (I was under 12 until I was 15).
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Jun 21, 2010 2:11:33 PM CDT
I want the shittiest, most low-rent hero Marvel has to offer.
by azultool
I don't even know who that would be. But, I'd love to see them take a crack at the absolute bottom-of-the-barrel, Z-list character in the Marvel Universe.
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If they go for a high-impact, in media res treatment of these characters, live action of course, and put some real talent into them (while allowing that talent to be creative, if not experimental), then we could see some really cool shit.
I would hope they purposely avoid the origin story of the characters treated in these mini movies. No need in getting bogged down in that nonsense for a 10 minute product. Just have the character doing whatever it is that character does best against credible opposition (i.e. not just a bunch of anonymous thugs but an actual baddie) and trust in the audience.
I also think it would be real badass if they just had the mini-movie start up with no credits or titles or anything like that, then just super-impose the character's name in his/her's comic book colors/font over the final shot of the mini-movie.
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first up; iron fist, power man/luke cage, dr. strange, shang chi, moon knight, black panther. after that, who cares?
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Seems an awfully short amount of time.
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The guy would be perfect for either Luke Cage or Black Panther. he knows awesome Kung Fu AND has great acting chops.
This guy still making B movies and DTV while Rob Schneider still gets roles ( albeit he does it by being Adam Sandler's Butt Buddy) is just fucking wrong. -
where he bumps into wolverine at a bar? Fuck yeah.
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Loco and Pulverine.
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Little teasers at the end of movies generated huge interests from Nick Fury to Thor. Making ten minute introductions in front of movies is great for building a brand. Whoever came up with this shit, give him all the whores.
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Total bullshit my friend. Because already there are examples of videogames that have equalled and surpassed great film and novel works. At the very least SOTC stands alone. It doesn't sound like you've even played Heavy Rain - I'm playing it on the heels of Shutter Island and it makes for a great double-bill. Understand that I play games in an actual movie theater which may increase their perceived overall entertainment value, but there's nothing to apologize for in some of these games. They do just fine at involving you emotionally. Now I'm laying down the law right now. Videogames have been individual interactive limited edition art prints since their inception. They originated as themed cabinet experiences akin to attractions at a state fair or themepark. They have always been ART incarnate. Arcade machines are the sci/fi set peices in the background of your life. YOU are the character aging and evolving through this story. Case in point- I can tell you what was happening in my life when every videogame ever released in history came out. As well as the movies in-between. I owned every game for every computer system and console that has ever come out. I have owned every classic arcade machine ever made from Space War and Death Race to Dragon's Lair and beyond. I can tell you what the best Disney ride ever made was besides 20,000 leagues. It was dragon's lair. It was a mini Disney themepark complete with first person ride sequences. Videogames are art and there's just nothing you can say about it. It's like trying to say the sky isn't up. I have bent women over Tron which I find is designed perfectly for doggy style. Pinball machines are great too. If that's not art I don't know what is. Go make some art kids!
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follow the BLADE template. Put together a solid movie around a B list character and people will go see it.
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Where he says some super cool shit,like "MOTHERFUCKERS ALWAYS TRYING TO ICE SKATE UPHILL".make it so hollywood.
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Random little team ups that don't make sense in the Avengers or whatever they're doing next. Only if they could hammer something out with Fox for the FF and X-men rights.
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or it could be another stupid viral campaign leading to Avengers. Sorta like Ani-Matrix where after you watch the origin of the machines, you realize there is no way they can ever win. I doubt they would be that stupid to give away the ending of Avengers, but I am sure if its made and ties to Avengers there could be problems. I would rather have a Dr.Strange movie as well, but if it leads to bigger things so be it. I would say get some low named stars or new comers who would be willing to sign for multiple movies. A Secret Wars or Infinity Gauntlet movie would be amazing.
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A 10 minute action packed short before Iron Man 3 or Captain America. That would introduce the character and make more people who don't read comics interested in the smaller characters. When it comes to money and movies ticket prices need to go down. I spent $30 dollars on two tickets for Toy Story 3 in 3D. Another TBer was right that I think people would spend more money on snacks if the tickets were cheaper. Personally I'd like to see a fourth Blade movie with Wesley going after a major comic villain but whatever.
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And another thing. The best low rent shit heel marvel character is Fanbulla Eddie The Gorilla Faced Girl. Designed to boost bull-dyke's spirits. Get right on that one.
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To be frank, most superhero movies are freakin’ boring: either it’s an omnipotent character that defeats his enemies without any effort or it’s a whiny little bitch that’s mad because he DOES have to put in some effort. Anyway, I would much rather have an exciting mini movie without all the unnecessary padding.
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that's what i was thinking. spidey and wolverine, howard the duck and man thing, human torch and iron fist. bring it.
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Modern-day British Tarzan fighting dinosaurs with sabretooth tiger sidekick! Awesome!
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we can all finally see the spider-ham short the world was hoping for
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Aside from the merits of console design as it pertains to doggystyle, I still very much disagree, but I won't be a prick about it. I'll just ask you, does a game of poker played with cards on a table qualify as "art"? Because when you remove all the fancy graphics and cut-scenes from video games, all that's left is the mechanics of the gameplay to differentiate a video game from an animated film. And while poker and other card games have played an equally important "backdrop" role as any video game I've ever played, I wouldn't say that poker, in and of itself, is art. In my esitmation, it's just a game, and fundamentally different from watching a movie or reading a book. Once everything is art, nothing is art, so I can't just say that everything is legitimately art. IMO, there has to be some (even arbitrary) definition. I'd even say that the more stripped down a video game is-- the less it tries to emulate other mediums and just focuses on what can be done in video games that can't be done in more passive forms of art-- the more it qualifies as art. Like PONG, or Tetris, or Pac-Man. I just get a bit pedantic (a bit?) when it comes to thrown gauntlets concerning the future of art. Video games can certainly develop into a form of art that could rival film and music and literature, but not if they only restrict themselves to aping the best of other mediums. I'd honestly love for some kid to prove me wrong, and make a game that I can honestly appraise as a serious work of art, but until it happens, I still want my grown-up entertainment in old fashioned NON-choose-your-own-adventure/paint-by-numbers form. -
Oh Gahd yes!
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Do that shit NOW!!!!
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He's got a punk drug dealer by the neck slammed up against the alley wall and says in that deep gravelly voice..."What's my name punk?!" The kid squeaks out.."Power Man". A figure walks up behind Luke Cage and says, "We about finished here?" Cage says be right with you Danny. Fade to opening credits. Awesome.
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Just using the strategy of the cartoon short before a feature. Plus would add to fanboy interest. I hope this starts with Captain America.
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Gotta agree with you there. And I share the same hope. That someone will take the medium to unexpected places at some point before I die from sodium or corn syrup solids. I think the big problem is that we're used to storytelling mediums and many are expecting the video game world to go in that direction to find it's Citizen Kane. It'll never happen. I think the real gaming revolution will come with fully realized worlds with so much intelligence and information depth, it's impossible to see completely, like the real world. Crowd-sourced universes, truly passable AI, rendered humans that actually look and act like humans, in fantastical environments without rule-books and WITH an Internet-style wild west feel. And head-tracked, truly 3d (not flat 3d) immersive technology that fills the full field of vision. A perfect blend of unpredictability and a world worthy of exploration. Where the goals are not laid out for you. Part of the game being the need to find the goals themselves. But even when I get those things, I'll still want to be told stories that are planned out in advance, with a beginning, a middle and an end. Right after I finish with my game.
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I like it.
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Next time you are at Disney let us know...I work in the old animation building so we can meet there....or right in front of the Team Disney Building....show up or stfu
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Next time you are at Disney let us know...I work in the old animation building so we can meet there....or right in front of the Team Disney Building....show up or stfu
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for introducing characters without having the origins take up valuable plot time during the avengers flick. hey, where did hawkeye come from??? watch the 10 minute origin story on the bluray! solid idea. release these as trailers maybe? i remember seeing the first final fantasy movie and it had one of the animatrix short films in front of it, the one with the duel in it. was wild. got me hyped up for the animatrix and the rest of the film series... oh, god. then the letdown.
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Someone said they should do it as a TV show... they could use this to lead into that, and have higher production values than most tv shows.
They could use a bigger budget for the shorts since they're tied with the features, and then use the characters in some sort of anthology show with costumes and props designed with film budget instead of tv budget levels. -
Jun 21, 2010 4:06:13 PM CDT
HA!!!! Jett finally slipped up - and is full of shit.
by professor_monster
He says as long as they bring the movie in under 29min they can use characters already leased to other major studios - What he's trying to force into his bent reality as far as I can tell is a Television exemption status - which Sony and Fox allready have for Spiderman and X-Men - it was included with the original contract as is custom in this day and age because no one wants to compete with themselves - that's why even Spidey Animation is done from the same studios as the live action = When a distribution deal is struck - the only thing you can retain (within reason and a little luck) are the book and novelization rights. That's it Let me know when you'll be at Disney as well Jett - my office is in the Frank G Welles building - I'll pay for lunch in the cafeteria - or better yet, I'll reserve a table for us atop Team Disney
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Jun 21, 2010 4:06:38 PM CDT
Bullshit, recent evidence says that Cleopatra had a AFRICAN moth
by ganymede3010
Booyaaaa! And with the one-drop rule, that would make her Black bitches!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/also_in_the_news/7945333.stm
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Use the comic costume, the comic powers, and the comic attitude and just give us 10 minutes of non-stop insane action--they'll option a feature film before the mini movie even shows at a theater.
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Did UltraTron say that he owns EVERY VIDEO GAME EVER?
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Jun 21, 2010 4:24:25 PM CDT
With current events, there should be forward progress on Namor..
by chewtoy
I kind of wish there was a pissed off Atlantian to wage war on the surface world after what happened in the Gulf... But maybe I just want to see sea monsters rise up and attack Manhattan. That's just solid entertainment no matter what.
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Maybe? Hmmm?
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Someone wanted the most low rent character possible? There you go, complete with casting.
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I think we should go check out the museum and let JettL tell us about the great projects Disney stole from him.
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2 or 3 shorts in a half-hour format. HELLO? Do it!
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If he was good enough to get one in the 70's, he's good enough now.
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It'd be neat to see a sort of feature-length "anthology" of these shorts. Kind of like the Creepshow or Twilight Zone movies.But if they're "thinking about it", they'd better get hopping - with all these Avengers-related films coming down the pike in the next year or two, they're going to run short on films to tack them on to if they don't hurry.
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Just thinking out loud.
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Until then, not so much.
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That would be a blast. Quick-hit scenarios that'd drop you right into the middle of an action story, like the intro to a James Bond film.Maybe, as with the old "Superman vs. Spider-Man" comics of the 70s, once all these comic franchises start to sputter out a bit, Marvel & Fox will team up to start making big money again. It'd be the only way to do Civil War, of course. Or Secret Wars, which would be vastly more fun (though without any comic-nerd credibility).
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is that you don't HAVE to be familiar with that character for it to work. C'mon, Marvel, give us a solid 100 min, R-rated, horror-cum-sorcery film of Dr. Strange. Get Neil Gaiman or JMS to write the story and someone to set up the screenplay. It'll make you solid dough.
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the end.
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Not that there's anything wrong with that, other than Daredevil never dressed so gay in the comics.
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It's also a cheap n cheerful way to secure copyright.
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1)Nova 2)Man-thing 3)Vision 4)Namor 5)Doc strange 6)cloak and dagger 7)CalnDestine
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Act 1 is total marvel zombies issue where they eat Galactus and is directed by tarintino/rodriguez. Zombie hulk climbs out of galactus' rib cage in that one after biting silver surfer's head off like a lead d&d figure. Act 2 could be a story featuring The Dredd Dormamu or Man-thing and be directed by Eli Roth. Get all fringe with it- release it at halloween. Or just an epic marvel zombies feature where they eat the entire universe. Isn't it great that everything I've said on this site over the years has come to pass. I can't wait for this marvel zombies flick.
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It's kinda stylized like Sin City so each segment is drawn by a different artist. Could be a 3D animated segment, 2D or stop motion and live action. Audiences would get a new kind of marvel movie like this. Each sequence is a different badass director.
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This is just what some of those characters need.
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that he has every video game ever made and a home movie theater? All of you peeing your pants at the obviously fake JettL and none of you wondering about UltraTron's finances?
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Been waiting ages for Luke Cage!
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I'm wondering, man. Owning every video game ever is maybe the most ridiculous claim I have ever read in a talkback.
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I hope some of these characters will still get their own movies regardless of this.
Hell, if Disney has 4 billion for Marvel outright they can back movies on more obscure characters. I can see a Midnight Sons movie (with a hopeful spin-off for Werewolf by Night) and a Doctor Strange film. But I guess my dream of a hard R rated Moon Knight movie or cable series probably won't happen.
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...Lacuna and Doop (with guest appearances of the rest of the X-Statix cast, directed by Edgar Wright)
...Fantomex and E.V.A. (directed by Zack Snyder)
...Layla Miller and Guido in Tokyo (directed by Sofia Coppola)
...The Doc Samson sessions with the Avengers (directed by Jon Favreau, written by Peter David)
...Miracleman/Marvelman (directed by Brad Bird, produced by Pixar, ho ho ho)
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I feel like Iron Man is more of a filler movie setting up for the Avengers. There are way too many subliminal hints for it. And I almost don't care to even see an overloaded superhero movie. Especially since Iron Man reminds me of a "cool" version of The Mighty Morphing Power Rangers.
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even though they would be awesome.
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New Universe:Featuring The Starbrand....Namor the submariner...Cloak and Dagger..the exiles...old man logan....rick jones in a marvel movie!.....the 3-d man...the impossible man....quaser...rom spaceknight...guadians of the galaxy...shang chi master of kung fu
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Even a short superhero subject would have to contain at least one impressive (costly) set piece. How are they supposed to make money out of such an endeavour? It's a nice thought but I can't see it happening.
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So it would make sense for them to do a 10 minute mini-movie right before Thor or Captain America. Although like other posters have said, this could end up backfiring on them if the 10 minute mini has a different set of actors and director than the final film, especially if the 10 minute mini ends up being better(which it will in any circumstance). The only way to mitigate this impending disaster is to CGI the 10 minute mini's, or use the same director and actors.
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Sounds great, but "Dr. Strange" doesn't need an introduction, just do a full length movie already, and cast it properly.
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I would love to see this big guy finally get his due.
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But only because I really want DC to do the same! I'm a DC guy all the way and nothing would make me happier than seeing a movie based on the Justice Society of America!
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You're going to introduce these lesser known characters. You only have 10 minutes. So you have to cover some form of origin story, which will take a few minutes. So then basically what you have is one scene where "bad guys" are trying to rob a bank or commit some crime. The hero stops them and shows his powers. So I don't really see how this gets people excited. And how sad is it for an actor to sign on for a 10 minute short, only to get a negative response and then the movie doesn't get made.
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as they usually folow up high quality with the lowest, POS, quickly produced, to try and cash in, can't see that business model changing even with Marvel's influence.
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That always works; inundate people with crap they're already tired of until they stop spending money on it and utterly reject it. What a business model! (In the meantime, I eagerly look forward to Batman 3, Finally A GREAT Superman Movie: The Movie, and Green "Unbelievably Poor Casting Decision, But I'll Give It A Chance" Lantern.)
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Jun 22, 2010 6:25:59 AM CDT
*ac-hem* The Adventures of Squirrel Girl and Monkey Joe
by spifftacular squirrel girl
How is that not a Pixar movie yet?
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First of all, The Incredibles featured 1 origin: Syndrome's, if you could call it that. We didn't need to know what set either of the parents on the path of crimefighting, or what bizarre happenstance granted them unworldly abilities, or who built Mr. Incredible's car. The main characters just had powers and wanted to be a heroes, and the audience had no trouble going along with that. So we're well past the need for origins in super hero films.
More to the point, however, short films are really all about jumping to the meat of either the premise or the plot, and leaving everything else out. The characters are often mysterious, what they're doing is often without obvious explanation and that's part of the intriguing nature of them. The audience is forced to make assumptions, to glean deeper understanding from less overt signals. And, best of all, the format actually allows the audience to be surprised by what happens, something very hard to pull off in a full length, fully advertised major feature film.I'm sure they're hoping to find the Marvel equivalent of "Alive from Joburg" or "Parallel Lines: The Gift". If done well, they can make a big impact and people will then be excited to see the ideas or characters revisited in a longer format.I think characters like the Vision or Moon Knight would be great in shorts like that. -
...just the other day! It only makes complete sense, considering the volume (and potential) of superheroes. And it would also be a much cheaper way to experiment (with style) and find what works, before beginning a major (and costly) production.
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Make this happen!
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And I'll gladly work for Marvel for scale!
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Only if he says "I'm well nigh-invulnerable when ahm blastin'!"
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As Marvel has hired writers for a full-feature on the good Dr. I don't remember their names, but it's the same guys that wrote the scripts for the new Conan and Uncharted: Drake's Fortune films, and apparently did a draft of Cowboya and Aliens. Maybe in a few days someone will post this on AICN.
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But as they say, NAY, insist - less is MOR.
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I'll fuckin' write and direct that shit for free. I'd like to do a new take on Sleepwalker too.
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..uh, on second thought the comic/character sucked!
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"Happy birthday....Happy birthday....Happy birthday..."
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from the makers of Hobo with a shotgun.
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Since the little teasers at the end of Iron Man are so popular, why not put these shorts at the END of the movies?
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Jun 22, 2010 2:56:37 PM CDT
And I'd like to add my voice to the calls for Spider-Ham
by royston lodge
So say we all.
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I think this would be really awesome! There are some great possibilities here! My favorites would be:
Dr. Strange (Hugh Laurie)
Iron Fist!!!!!!!! (solo)
Heroes for Hire (Colleen Wing, Misty Knight, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist)
Moon Knight (I think Adam Baldwin would be pretty cool in the role)
And how about this: a few small mini movies introducing a villain, what kind of powers they use, what major crimes they commit, and end the episode by them getting caught by a hero or SHIELD, thrown in prison on the Raft and have it all conclude to begin a Thunderbolts movie! -
The Inhumans would be a great short subject...or maybe just Black Bolt and Medusa.
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Or maybe even Peter Porker The Spectacular Spider-Ham
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Night of the Laughing Dead
that would truly be awesome -
So many great characters out there that no one knows, or wouldn't do well in their own feature film. Such a cool idea.
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