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The Next SMALLVILLE?? CG Effects Test Footage Has Been Engineered For A New Series Based On DC's BLUE BEETLE!!
I am – Hercules!!
Some folks are apparently trying to get a new TV series off the ground, one based on DC Comics’ latest version of The Blue Beetle.
Some effects test footage for the project, which is still in the pitching phase, was created, and DC exec Geoff Johns just posted stills captured from the footage.
The Blue Beetle has a long and tortured history. He began life in Fox Comics’ Mystery Men Comics #1 (1939) as Dan Garret, a rookie cop who gained superstrength via a “2-X” vitamin.
The rights to the Blue Beetle were sold to Charlton Comics, which in 1964 decided Garrett (now spelled differently) was actually an archaeologist who got superstrength, flight and the ability to generate energy blasts from a magical Egyptian artifact resembling a beetle.
In 1966 Charlton introduced Ted Kord, a student of Garrett’s who inherited Garrett’s alter ego. Kord, an inventor and gifted athlete, inherited also Garrett’s artifact but for some reason never got superpowers from it.
(Alan Moore loosely based the Hollis Mason and Daniel Dreiberg versions of Nite Owl in “Watchmen” on Garret and Kord.)
Charlton sold The Blue Beetle in 1983 to DC Comics, which put Kord to work as a member of The Justice League.
In 2006, DC introduced Jaime Reyes, a new teen Blue Beetle who gets his powers from Garrett’s Egyptian artifact (which turns out to be a lost piece of ancient extraterrestrial technology). The funnybook series centered on the Reyes Blue Beetle was cancelled after 36 issues early last year due to poor sales.
Both the Kord and Reyes Beetles were featuring on “Batman: The Brave and the Bold”:
If a weekly series goes forward, it will not be the first for Blue Beetle, who was the subject of a radio drama in 1940.
Find all seven effects images at scifiwire.
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Isn't CN looking to commission more live-action shows? I could see this working as a 30 minute series geared toward tweens.
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Get your Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Flash, er Impulse together with Black Canary and Green Arrow. The can deal with the threats no Govt can...just like in the Comics. Feel free to toss Blue Bettle into that mix. I just don't know if he can make it as a stand alone character.
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Looks like a fucking Power Ranger. I swear that's the first thing that popped in my head. The costume should be a mix of Spider-Man's movie costume with some armor bits.
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Birds of Prey came from the success of Smallville, and AquaMan never even made it off the ground. Let's see how far this goes.
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The Aquaman pilot was a huge download on iTunes. The WB underestimated the interest.
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Make it a live action comedy.That's what I'll watch.
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Me, not terribly interested, to be honest. I've just never been a huge superhero fan and I fear that the barrage of material based around them hitting the mainstream lately may end up being detrimental to my hopes for more alternative and indie books being adapted to other mediums.
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Has anyone else seen that god awful 1980's Aquaman pilot? I picked it up at a Con maybe 12 or 15 years ago. Horrible. But funny. Horribly funny.
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I truly believe it would set the genre back 10-15 years if ANYTHING Aquaman goes into production. It's just not that solid a concept for anything other than a comic book. Too much laughable cheese.
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It starred Ving Rhames, and he threatened to send bitch Mermaids back to Hell. No way they should've passed up on that.
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Damn, I meant the above for you.
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I'd really like to see that guy who plays him lead his own series on the CW as Green Arrow. (Due to the popularity of the Aqua Man pilot he starred in, maybe the CW will finally realize the potential here.) Maybe this could still happen, as next season is the last for Smallville, presumably so that the Superman character can be fully passed onto the Nolan brothers to re-develop for the movies.
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Nobody gives a flying fuck about the Blue Beetle. You got Smallville in its last season and of all the options they have, they want to spin-off onto a character who can't even hold his own comic? Choice #1 should be Bruce Wayne the early years, introduce in the final series of Smallville then do a spin off based on Bruce's pre Batman years working with whoever will teach him more stuff. Choice #2 should be the Green Arrow since he's more or less the secondary character in Smallville anyway. Choice #3 should be Zatanna, she's been in the show twice already and was great. Choice #4 a Justice League show which could be a tad bit expensive, but for crissakes forget CGi testing unpopular supporting cast like the Blue Beetle and do something sensible!
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the only reason it survived past one series is the unexploited superman mythology. This show has consistently had terrible writing, terrible acting and shameful direction all married by fantastic production values. Good luck with the blue beetle- but if you think you can make another lame dawson's creek-superhero load of crap then why not just kill yourselves for the insurance money?
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Is if it was Ted Kord. Ted's Beetle. Pre-League, genius science nerd doing what he can, ala Spidey, but with a bit less angst. It would totally have to be firmly set in the DCU though, with Superman having been public for 3 or 4 years. I want newspapers an tc mentions and people on the street dialogue enforcing that he's in the DCU. And since it wouldn't follow much DCU continuity, fucking bring in Booster and give Smallville's J'onn a recurring role. That way they can eat that martian motherfucker's oreos. Fire-fraid bitch. Kidding, MM is the fucking awesome, he went down like a bitch. Loved most what led up to and including Blackest Night, but damn. That's like Barry being taken out by that homo Piper.
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but a ted kord series would be even worse!! a series about a teen superhero is about 20 times more marketable than one about a 30 year old. plus with jamie reyes, you can still bring ted kord back and have stories with him!
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one week he could learn lockpicking,safecracking from an expert thief. next he could learn some detective skills at Scotland yard. next maybe a magician for sleight of hand and escape artist skills. Shamanistic medicine from an old indian medicine man? Explosives experts? Circus acrobats? The idea pool is unlimited really.
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Want's it's funny book back bitches!!
Besides... we all know Herc didn't post this.. Athena just kilt yer ass in YOUR funny book... oh wait.. that's right, you're just MOSTLY dead in another realm temporarily. -
WB was pitched a pre-Batman Bruce Wayne series, but they passed. However, they did like the one proposed episode for the series in which Bruce goes to a small Kansas town to investigate rumors of strange goings-on...
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Geoff Johns, DC Exec, clearly stated on his twitter feed that "This isn’t final. This isn’t greenlit. It’s only a test that was done." So what you're seeing here is in no way final effects or final designs. It's quick, intentionally low rent pre-visualization stuff for a series that hasn't even been greenlit. And at no point was it mentioned to be a 'spin-off' of Smallville. So really, disregard the visuals and take this only as 'they're THINKING about maybe doing a Blue Beetle TV series'.
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With Booster Gold and Blue Beatle.
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That is all.
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...was Starman (the Jack Knight version). But that horrid Birds of Prey series killed that one before they could even shoot a pilot.
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...Why isn't he blue? I mean, he's Blue Beetle fer cryin' out loud. Also, they're gonna do the suited-up Beetle as CGI? Every week? On a TV budget, scratch that, a CW Network TV budget? Yeah... that'll happen. They should just resurrect Ted Kord, team him with Booster Gold and write the show as a full-blown comedy with some superhero action thrown in. Hell, go all out and do "I Can't Believe It's the Justice League"!
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Jun 17, 2010 7:48:47 AM CDT
How about that really terrible Justice League pilot from the 90'
by jaylenotookmyjob
Anyone seen that. Flash was a homeless guy, all the costumes looked like they stole them off of those junkie Hollywood Blvd. costume panhandlers... except cheesier. Charles Winchester from M.A.S.H. played a fat Martian Manhunter. Not so much unintentionally funner as just painful.
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...so much as Batman wasn't available to be used because they were looking to find a new take on the movie franchise instead. (Which ended up working out pretty good for fans, I suppose.) In any event, the Wayne-centric concept makes for a much better show than "Smallville"'s concept... Bruce Wayne traveling the world learning the skills he needs to be Batman (fighting, magician/escape artist tricks, detective skills) is instantly more interesting then "Weird stuff happens in small Kansas town. Weekly." Sadly, if I remember correctly, the team that pitched the Batman Begins-ish show (before that movie was even in early production) didn't get anything out of it... WB went with someone else and did "Smallville".
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3 eps so far. http://tinyurl.com/2v5w8xm
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They should do the Creeper. Talk show host by day; insane super hero by night.
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Actually, since I know nothing of the comic book Blue Beetle, this children's show schtick character was and is the only "Blue Beetle" I've ever known. And it's always made me wonder what the deal was with the apparently proper version we're talking about here. Better do some research finally.
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I.Do.Not.Care!!
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remember Black Scorpion? no? how about Night Man? that's what this reminds me of
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I hope it fails miserably. There's a reason why the comics sold poorly--an uninteresting protagonist!!
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. . . nothing but ridicule for that guy.
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If you're going to run a low budget show about a 3rd stringer DC character who used to be part of Charleston comics, why not use a more interesting character? Like, the Question? You hardly need any special effects pieces for that, and you have a pretty wide selection of material, as well as interpretations, to choose from.
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The Blowhard! Fat rightwing radio host by day, fat avenger of evil by night with superloud voice/subsonic powers. Watch out librull scum!
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a show about Robin before he became Robin?
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would beat all other superheroes. They will outlive all living beings in the end... Bwahahahahahahah
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A series about Bruce Wayne before he became Batman. Oooooooooooooooh!Really, I guess that was their plan before Smallville but somebody wouldn't let them do it (because, you know, it's not like they had a Batman TV show back in the 60's, oh wait!). THAT would likely do incredibly well if it was done at all well, they HAVE to know that, it should be a hit! Blue Beetle? Could be great, but most have no idea who he is (probably fewer than who know who Aquaman is, but his appeal might be quite a bit greater). Even then, they have done Smallville with Supes for YEARS now. Why not just give in, put out some Batman origins TV show, let it be a big hit, and stop breaking out the unknowns? Not to say something like this could not be great, but you'd think they'd milk the more known/popular commodities first. -Cheers
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And I hate the arguement that WB shouldn't allow Bruce on Smallville because it might confuse people about the movie series. Really? Like THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD ties into the Nolanverse? People can tell the difference between sitting in their living room and going to a new movie.
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...and we want it to be a comedy with Booster Gold, too!
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Of course Brave and the Bold takes place in the Nolanverse. Didn't you see the episode that loosely adapted Blackest Night, wherein Rachel Dawes...ah, fuck it, I can't even type this with a straight face...
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Re: The marketability of teen characters VS. adult characters. I was a kid in the 70's and never had a problem "relating" to superheroes, sci-fi characters, etc., that were grown-ass men. They were heroes that you looked up to and wanted to be like when you grew up and became a man yourself. Who honestly didn't want to be Buck Rogers or Han Solo or SuperMAN? Why is there an assumption these days that kids will only relate to characters closer to their age? Is that an actual shift in the way kids think? Or is it just a flawed theory embraced by coke-addled marketing "experts" and producers? I know I spend a lot of time these days shooing kids off my damn lawn and pining for the "good old days," but it really does seem like everything is turning to shit these days. We're now living in a world with "edgy" fraggles and smurfs dancing to Tone Loc in Times Square. I call shenanigans on the whole mess. Color me an irascible old geek, I guess.
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If you can't rope in 20,000 people to read a comic book, why do you think millions will watch the TV show? BIZARRE logic. That new DC/Warner regime is looking kinda' weak. Can't wait to ignore Jonah Hex this weekend!
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DC has a lot of weird and wild B and C list characters they could spin off into some cool flicks if they ever got their act together.
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Too bad they made a movie that feels nothing like it.
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Despite my rant on how a Bruce Wayne-centric pre-Batman centric show would be the obvious next big hit (maybe bigger than Smallville), I think a Booster Gold TV show would be great! He was awesome in Justice League and in an interesting, flawed character that has a huge redemption angle. -Cheers
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pull from those issues of Justice League. that would be TV gold!
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Even as a kid I NEVER wanted to see super heroes played as kids, at least not when they were presented as adults in their natural content. Adult super heroes gave me something to aspire to, and I always felt younger, teenage/kid versions were a rip off since they weren't (couldn't) be as good as they would be in more-polished, better trained, more experienced, and "finished" adult versions. It was less compelling as a little kid. Also, my favorite comic-based entity growing up? The very-adult Batman: The Animated Series. When they made it more kid-orientated, simpler, less dark, less believable, I lost interest. The newer, slicker, or more Fisher-Price designed versions (of Batman or any other character) has never gotten my attention. It seemed pandering. And this was me as a kid! It seems so obvious, but look at what gave shows like Batman: The Animated Series or Gargoyles such rabid cult fanbases. It wasn't just the cool designs, or just the action, it was something visually impressive, , great characters, and a balance between a pretty easy-to-follow story with something epic and far-reaching (either something quasi- or straight serial in nature, or just that built in the overall arc or development of the character[s] and the world they inhabited). You can make that somewhat subtle or in the background so kids (or adults for that matter) can enjoy it without paying too much attention about the building mythology. However, throw a bone to the adults so they can see how over time the constant grind can have some effect on the characters, the losses add up, the triumphs actually make a difference in the world, and that paying attention to the mythology and characters pays off when you build on them and characters grow/change or things that seem minor at first show up and have a greater impact than first believed that make paying attention to said details episodes/seasons earlier (not to mention rewatching them) pays off. Heck, look at Toy Story, Monsters Inc., or in my opinion most any Pixar production for some inspiration. -Cheers
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... Dung Beetle!
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look away...just...look away.
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"Please like this new Blue Beetle! We promise he's way better than the old Blue Beetle!" And I'll look down and whisper: "No.".
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A whole bunch of people would rather see the Ted Kord version of Blue Beetle. How about that? Kinda makes you think, doesn't it? Oh, it doesn't? That's because you're a bunch of idiots. Fuck off and die, Geoff Johns.
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Jun 17, 2010 2:25:20 PM CDT
It truly is the DC Comics reaction to Kamen Rider
by the green gargantua
and other Henshin shows.
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My guess is this looks like a show DC Entertainment is pitching to sister company the Cartoon Network, which is currently looking at live-action series ideas. So if these test footage shots look "kiddie-ish" or Power Ranger-ish... um, that's probably because this is the kind of show and audience (little boys) they're going for, gang.
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Jun 17, 2010 2:50:38 PM CDT
Wil Wheaton (Wesley Crusher) does Ted Kord's voice...
by theghostwholurks
On that Batman: Brave and the Bold episode. Good to see his career wasn't totally ruined by that character from Next Generation.
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...is sobbing somewhere.
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Jun 17, 2010 3:45:26 PM CDT
Ug, that's what BB looks like now? Should be the Pink Beetle
by azultool
Go back to the skull cap and yellow goggles, cuz that design looks like utter Mr. Freeze faggotry.
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If you bash this as power rangers, you need to put in a few hours reading the TPBs. BB was great!
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Ted Kord along with Booster or nothing
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Jun 17, 2010 5:23:03 PM CDT
As I said above, I think this one is meant for the kids
by prof. pop-cult
A solo Power Ranger like show, live-action, for the Cartoon Network, like the live-action version of Ben 10. If you watch Batman: The Brave and The Bold on CN, then this makes sense. That animated series seems to have been pushing BB an awful lot in many episodes. I watch the show and am ambivalent about the BB character, but I could totally see a live-action version of BB marketed to boys.
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So cool to finally hear something... ANYTHING on this after shedding so much blood, sweat & tears while working on this a while back.
I never heard a peep and figured it was just buried. My interest is renewed! -
There's never a can of Raid around when you need one.
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...FUCKING SHIT! NO! NO! NO! NO! WOW WHAT AN AWFU IDEA!
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...FUCKING SHIT! NO! NO! NO! NO! WOW WHAT AN AWFU IDEA!
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I love that reference.
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Don't Fear the Reaper...
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This Blue Beetle is like the Jason Rusch Firestorm. Who gives a fuck? Firestorm is Ronnie Raymond and Professor Stein.
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I think everybody forgets that ABC use to cut ALL the "so-called" violent parts in the BUGS BUNNY cartoons back in the REGAN ERA 80'S! the beginning of the end of how every thing has to have a dumbass little yuppie kid arc in tv shows and movies! Smallville should have grown up two fuckin seasons ago! and became METROPOLIS or whatever the fuck!but poor little sensitive cyber kids cant comprehend that? more flacid DAWSON,90210,ONE TREE,VAMPY DIARIES,CRAPPY RETREAD STORY LINES EVERY FUCKIN WEEK!! I GUESS POOR FRAGILE AMERICAN KIDS OF TODAY ARE TO FRAGILE!!!
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What a novel idea!!!!!
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Jun 17, 2010 11:39:27 PM CDT
I'm getting a hard-on just thinking about a Spectre series
by uncle stan
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sound old. its for kids people, seriously. they don't know who Ted Kord is. and its not like Booster gold is flying off the shelves either. Jaimie reyes is now the most famous blue beetle, now that He's appearing on Batman Brave and the Bold. Why WOULDNT they use him??
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Blue Beetle won't last a minute, either go with Green Arrow as you have built this character up via Smallville or go with a well known character.
We all know Batman/Gotham would be a better option at this point. And really who cares if it may contradict anything Nolan's movies do, its a take on a much lover character.
If it wasn't being made by CW but instead someone with money have Henry Cavill star as Bruce Wayne. -
...seeing as "all the people" here are asking for Ted Kord. How can a character who's only been around a few years, has a failed comic book and only been the guest star a few times in a Saturday morning cartoon more famous than a character who's been around since the 60s in two different comic companies???There's a REASON why everyone's asking for Ted Kord. And it's the same reason why, in 10 years, he'll STILL be the person people think of when they talk about the Blue Beetle. Just like Bruce Wayne is Batman, Billy Batson is Captain Marvel, Hal Jordan is Green Lantern and Vic Sage is The Question... regardless of whatever squatters DC decides to put in their costumes at any given time.
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I collected most of the run, and I dug the new twist on the "alien" egyptian artifact. Though Ted Kord IS THE BB, hands down. And yes I would prefer a Ted Kord/Booster Gold show rather than this, but I'm not opposed to a BB show in general...
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Jun 18, 2010 3:52:47 AM CDT
Again, this test footage looks like a pilot for Cartoon Network
by jim jam bongs
This looks like a pitch/concept test for a live-action Blue Beetle series to be marketed to *actual little boys*, and *not* for a drama series for a network like The CW. Why does it appear this is difficult for many of you here to accept and/or understand? I am truly baffled by the comments in this TB.
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grew up with ted kord, which is why they want him back. They aren't gonna be watching a cw or cartoon netork show. kids are. so to the people that matter in this case, Jamie Reyes IS the blue beetle.
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I was thinking just recently that a series based on The Question would be great, especially if they based it on the Dennis O'Neil run from 1987. There's this terrific sequence from the first issue where Batman keeps appearing to him in dreams telling him to decide if he's a hero or if he's just doing it for his own selfish ends. Every issue's story of the 32 issue run was based on a different principle of zen philosophy, so it was fairly heady stuff at times, but I figure you might be able to get a good season out of the story anyways.
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why are they still clamoring for wally west when they have barry allen? people want the characters they had when they grew up because it reminds them of their childhood. let's not pretend its any different
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It was actually 36 issues and 5 annuals for the entire Question run in '87.
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..same goes for Swamp Thing based on Alan Moore's excellent stories.But Blue-fucking-Beatle?!?get the fugg out!
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"Wil Wheaton (Wesley Crusher) does Ted Kord's voice...On that Batman: Brave and the Bold episode. Good to see his career wasn't totally ruined by that character from Next Generation." WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?! THAT CHARACTER WAS HIS CAREER!!!
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If the head honchos at the CW are interested in a BB series have the character appear in an episode or two of Smallville to gauge fan reaction. The Justice League and Justice Society episodes did very well. That seems to be the way to go. During sweeps you have Tom Welling or Michael Rosenbuam guest star, money in the bank. You also have a greater opportunity to use other characters from the DCU.
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&zwjno one with any sense will see it. That way, they'll decide not to make it, and we'll all be better off."Smallville" = crap. -
Yeah, the crap has been on for ten years and has generated millions in ad revenues, overseas sales and DVD sales. No one at the CW is interested in that.
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Nightwing would work for so many reasons.
1) Nightwing, like Tom Welling, would have the teen girls swoon.
2) Nightwing is alot like Batman, and the show could be on the 'realistic' side, which is what has made the batman movies so successful--the audience responds to a real world-ish superhero more than a fantastical one.3) Like Batman, Nightwing is a detective--there can be big plotlines, but it would be simple to create interesting standalone episodes (think Supernatural)4) You can allude to batman and have flashbacks of his training where Batman is present, but in the shadows with the camera's staying away from a shot of batman himself. 5) YOu could make Chloe the Oracle in smallville now and then put her in the nightwing show as a love interest, and have her serve the same function she has right now on smallville.6) Nightwing is badass, period. -
Jun 18, 2010 12:35:39 PM CDT
Walt's tighty whities looks more interesting than the beetle
by cornstalkwalker
lame
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Jun 18, 2010 12:58:46 PM CDT
BB was part of that cool reboot of the JLA in the late '80s
by azultool
Guy Gardner as well. They did allot of comedy in that version of the JLA. Lots of breaking the 4th wall, didn't take itself too seriously. I don't know how many issues they had, but it was fun stuff.
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No, really. I find it laughable that everybody and their mom is against this, wihtout ever reading the comicbooks. The jamie reyes beetle is great and DC answer to spidey. A likable teen hero with fast wits and a charming cast of surrounding characters, unique powers and deepening ties to the greater dcu. I think it has a chance to get huge and I really hope they feature as much of the smaller dcu in it as possible. I want Booster in it and Guy Gardner!
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Jun 18, 2010 7:43:32 PM CDT
If it starts next year, he will still fly before Clark does.
by powerring
I mean really.
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Do a show on Gotham, when Bruce Wayne is in college, and is going out at night as a vigilante, pre-Batman...to save innocent people from a growing and strange, criminal element. This is my take, my story outline, on the Bruce Wayne series that I am proposing.:Bruce Wayne is attending Gotham University majoring in criminology classes, and assisting the local police with crime investigations via a student vocation program? Wayne and several other students are assigned to a police officer, a sort of..."modern Sherlock Holmes", to help process, and investigate real-life crime scenes (for the over-taxed local police department). This is how he, Wayne, begins to learn his investigative skills, as the Dark Detective. In the day, he is just an average student, but at night, he uses the skills that he learns at school and through his vocational work, to fight crime, as a masked vigilante. Is he...(that being Bruce's alter ego) an urban myth, or something real? A question that the Gotham police are forced to ask themselves. Further, we'll get to see Wayne in all spectrums of police training (and work), including self-defense, firearms, and what not, and learn why Wayne has swarn not to use a gun, something that leads to his eventual ineligibility as a would be cop.Treat the series as a police crime procedural, ala CSI with, the added vigilante element.A show like this would be the perfect compliment to "Smallville" and a guaranteed break-out hit for the CW.
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...I'd be glad to sell it to them for the normal spec price, and a screen credit.
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Jun 19, 2010 10:33:30 AM CDT
The DC Universe is too big/cumbersome to try and establish a mov
by terrmaster
TV show ideas like this are fantastic. It's the only way comic fans will get to see Blue Beetle in a live action medium, and it'll be a pretty marketable, post Smallville property.
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Rather than rehash the origin, or make some shitty prequel concept, we focus on Tim Drake inheriting the title of Robin in the pilot. We'll see Jason Todd die, and only have Dick be talked about (by Alfred, probably) as the guy that got fed up with Batman's shit. This way, we're re-introduce to everyone, without being led around by the hand. Have Todd/Red Hood be the S1 big bad, with Joker coming in for ONE ep as a hint for whats to come. Midway thru the season, Tim and Bruce have a falling out, and as he's "going rogue", he runs into Nightwing, and they make fast friends. You could easily have a plot (after Bruce and Tim reconcile in one ep) where Tim sneaks off to train with Dick. Then in the S1 finale, have the cliffhanger show the Joker shooting Barbara. The possibilities are endless, really.
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I'll just give it to you.
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There are so many flat out dumb things about your "idea."1) you seem to think having ideas makes you so special. An unknown writer needs to establish himself before anyone will even consider buying nothing more than an outline.2) Your "idea" was suggested abotu a million times in this talkback. 3) The most idiotic thing about your "idea" is that you think Bruce Wayne can learn all he needs to be batman at a police academy--your "idea" basically means that ANYONE who goes to a police academy can become Batman.Don't quit your day job... oh yeah, that's right, you don't have a job.
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1.) Wayne would be mentored by an unconventional Sherlock Holmes type, as I mentioned previously, someone whom he would gain unusual insights and deductive skills from. As it is at present, within the Batman myth, we have no idea how Wayne has become such a great investigator, other than the fact that he willed it of himself to be that? That my friend, would suggest that, just anyone could be like Batman. Batman needs a starting point to get his scientific knowledge and insight into crime investigations from the inside-out, like forensic work, the pathology of criminals, and what not. He would have had to study this somehow, and somewhere, correct?2.) Question: How does an unknown writer establish himself? Answer: By first writing and pitching something. That is how it begins with everyone, including the industry vets, and that is what I am doing. It has to begin somewhere my friend.3.)Bruce Wayne does not learn all that he needs to know at the Police Academy, or in his criminolgy classes in college, to be Batman, this is just his start. He is not Batman here, just the archetype. Much of what he learns will come from the unsual Gotham criminals that he meets. The villain sometimes creates the opposite; the hero. Thus is the case with a slowly evolving Wayne.I would like to see Wayne visit places like "The Body Farm", The FBI training center, and even Scotland Yard...as he begins to evolve in the show...gaining further expertise as he goes along in his training, a sort of acknowledged wunderkind by his teachers and peers. But for all his mastery of this, the criminal sciences, he is still a learner, and thus...messy--he is the Watson...to his mentor's Sherlock Holmes, something that he is all too aware of...right away.
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I had to rush away, and didn't get to vet my text.
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1.) Wayne would be mentored by an unconventional Sherlock Holmes type, as I mentioned previously, someone whom he would gain unusual insights and deductive skills from. As it is at present, within the Batman mythos, we have no idea how Wayne has become a masterful investigator, other than the fact that he willed it of himself to be a great detective? Such is beyond the suspension of disbelief. That my friend, would suggest that, just anyone could be like Batman. Batman needs a starting point to get his scientific knowledge and insight into crime investigations from the inside-out, like forensic work, the pathology of criminals, and what not. He would have had to study this somehow, and somewhere, correct?
2.) Question: How does an unknown writer establish himself? Answer: By first writing and pitching something. That is how it begins with everyone, including the industry vets, and that is what I am doing. It has to begin somewhere my friend.
3.)Bruce Wayne does not learn all that he needs to know at the Police Academy, or in his criminology classes in college, to be Batman, this is just his start. He is not Batman here, just the archetype. Much of what he learns will come from the unusual Gotham criminals that he meets. The villain sometimes creates the opposite; the hero. Thus, is the case with a slowly evolving Wayne.
I would like to see Wayne visit places like "The Body Farm", The FBI training center, and even Scotland Yard...as he begins to evolve in the show...gaining further expertise as he goes along in his training, a sort of acknowledged wunderkind by his teachers and peers. But for all his mastery of this, the criminal sciences, he is still a learner, and thus...messy--he is the Watson...to his mentor's Sherlock Holmes, something that he is all too aware of...right away. -
Can't see this getting picked up. Bad idea and waste of money.
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Hey not sure if this kosher, but I created a low budget webseries about a quirky superhero who happens to be the last son of Zeus. Check it out if you get the chance, the first episode is only 4 min http://www.youtube.com/user/AGODNamedPABLO
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Yes, it is indeed a good idea, and one many people have had before. At one time they were developing that very show at the former WB (minus the police academy angle).
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...but it did its job for the WB, and the CW. "Smallville", if you look at its archetypal structure, is directly modeled after "Buffy: The Vampire Slayer". "The Meteor Freaks"...are the creatures of the week, the "Big Bads"...in Buffy Speak...and as you know...the town is the center stage for anomalies which thrust the events of the show. And of course, Clark and his friends investigate and foil the Meteor Freaks each week...while dealing with Clark's greater purpose in life, which is to save the world...as a singular hero. This is Buffy, from top to bottom. When the WB sought to churn-out its own fantasy based shows...they sought to copy the growing Buffy franchise, hence, this is what ultimately led to Buffy being cancelled. WB now had its own Buffy, in Smallville, and they didn't need another from an outside studio.It is not always about re-inventing the wheel, as you can see...by the example of Smallville, it is about being effective and getting results, ratings wise. I know about the WB's toying with the idea of a Bruce Wayne show, which they quickly slapped-down, however, the key to my series idea is Wayne studying criminology at Gotham University...and working within the Gotham police academy...as a foreshadowing of his eventually becoming Batman. The entire series will be about foreshadowing of his destiny, like Smallville reflects Clark's greater destiny. We never learned where Batman got his famous detective skills from, and it really plays silly...when you think about it; absent a good explanation--when that key story element is left-out, and unexplained, as it has been for years within the Batman mythos, it takes away from the character's weight--if you wish to make him seem...more real world based--as so many have tried of the last last 20 years. Hence, you have to explain it, that being Wayne's elite investigative skills as a detective, forensics expert, and expert criminal profiler, etc., or try to. My idea fills that in, and would serve to give any Gotham series...or "Bruce Wayne: Year One", as I call it, a basis, and setting for Wayne to launch his exploits. My series idea would play very much like "CSI" meets "Veronica Mars"...the latter being, another Buffy influenced series.
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