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Disney Draws From The Marvel Well For Medusa-Like Rapunzel In TANGLED!
Beaks here...
From Disney veterans Nathan Greno and Byron Howard comes TANGLED, a quip-happy reimagining of Rapunzel featuring the voices of Zachary Levi, Mandy Moore, Donna Murphy, Ron Perlman and, hot off the badass first season of JUSTIFIED, M.C. Gainey. The below trailer just hit Yahoo! Movies today, and it looks like a triumphant return to the late-'90s/early-'00s output of Disney Animation - which, you know, nearly ran the company's signature division right into the ground. Perhaps you feel differently...
Honestly, the only reason I'm running this is because it seems like the filmmakers were directly inspired by the Marvel Universe character Medusa, who once flustered the Fantastic Four with her long, deadly locks.
And this is depressing because, all sarcasm aside, Disney is the perfect studio to re-launch the FANTASTIC FOUR franchise. Free the Richards family, Fox!
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It looks like the dumbest DreamWorks comedy yet ...
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in fact, it looks pretty good - like a marriage between the visual style of their traditional handdrawn animation & the 3D Shrek approach (but without the blockiness of those visuals).
hey, it might well end up sucking hard, but i can't say it LOOKS terrible. -
That's really odd.
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seriously they paid Marvel to license the rights, Marvel agreed years ago to let them keep the rights as long as they made films. Why does everyone bash FOX for "not giving the rights back". 20th Century fox is legally allowed to hold the rights, they are not the bad guys here. If I sell you my car I can't get mad at you when you don't let me ride in it.Grow up fanboys, Movies are a business and FOX is legal entitled to make Certain Marvel films
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...They're obviously running screaming from making this a "Princess" film in the marketing, after the lackluster box office for "Princess and the Frog". I figured that was why they changed the name from "Rapunzel" to "Tangled". They didn't want boys to think this was just a girly movie.
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Medusa is not a supervillain, she's queen of the Inhumans, Black Bolt's wife
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...because they make crappy movies with those rights. They quickly ran some huge properties into the ground. It's the internet, not a court of law... nobody's arguing their legal right to make crap. People just wish that, if Fox isn't going to really try to make great movies with the properties, that they'd stop making half-hearted ones in order to retain the rights.
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I immediately took a liking to the animation, just because it actually looks like a Disney movie. They really adapted the look of their 2D movie into 3D.
Though for some reason, the dude keeps reminding me of the Prince from the "Sands of Time" video game... probably his pointy chin and facial hair. hehe. -
I once thought this might be cool, what with all the "let's make it look like an animated Fragonard painting" plans from way back when. Now it's this. Ugh.
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So Beaks knows what he's talking about... although his hatred for this trailer is a bit much.
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Has the classic Disney look and feel to it. It'll be a huge family film, no doubt. The CGI looks fantastic.
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when is pixar gonna learn?
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doesn't make them actually villains
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Jun 10, 2010 2:53:58 PM CDT
It's clear Beaks does NOT know what he's talking about
by redbull_werewolf
I mean he thinks Bring it on is a better film then The Dark Knight. Beaks is obviously not the sharpest pencil in the pack
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It's a Disney kid's flick. My daughter (who's in their demographic) would love it. It's not for me, but you know what? It's not really supposed to be. Granted, it could be better, but Toy Story 3 is coming out, which my daughter is also going to flip out over and I'll probably love. But that's Pixar, it's what they do, and I'm not a big fan of Disney in general so I'm not really broken up about it.Additionally, I'm not sure why you'd apologize for posting this. Sure, people will gripe about it in the talkbacks, but we gripe about everything ("we" from a communal standpoint). At least it's something film-news related even if it's not really "cool" to most of us in the AICN demographic. Still, it might appeal to some of us so, no need to apologize. I also don't care that they used Medusa (or that Mortal Kombat character) for inspiration. That doesn't matter one bit.-Cheers
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Jun 10, 2010 3:03:44 PM CDT
Yeah, but with Rapunzel it doesn't look stupid as fuck...
by burnhollywood
I'm trying to imagine anyone in an audience keeping a straight face as some Medusa broad beats the shit out of the FF4 with her hair, and it's not working.
I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings too much, but you do realize that you probably put up with a lot of retarded shit in the comics because when you're a kid, you're pretty much DUMBER, right? -
"seriously they paid Marvel to license the rights, Marvel agreed years ago to let them keep the rights as long as they made films. Why does everyone bash FOX for "not giving the rights back"."True. However, generally speaking I believe (as obviously do others) that they are doing a crappy job with their movies, Marvel or otherwise. Part of it is just venting (I'm convinced that's largely why these talkbacks exist, and why they are generally so negative [because, who vents when they're happy?]). I'll grant you Fox has the right to create Marvel movies. However, they suck. It's my opinion, but it's also one widely shared. Reviews and box office revenue back me up. I'd love for them to sell X-Men, Fantastic Four, DareDevil, and anything else they got in their deal with Marvel, or let the rights revert. Sure, they don't HAVE to, but they've done terrible business, both in the making of the films as well as the handling of people involved. So even though it's business, it's bad business. Of course, it's well within their rights to partake in such poor business practice and shoddy film-making, but it's also our right to voice our displeasure, no?The real reason to rant though is to hopefully get enough dissenting voices so they either A) realize they're screwing things up and change since their poor production values are effecting fan reaction (and revenue since people like me don't watch Fox-produced movies, Marvel or otherwise, anymore as a result), or B) Sell or let the rights revert since Fox-produced Marvel movies will eventually fail to be a money-making venture.-Cheers
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I don't think this is going to be too terrible. Isn't this the movie they've been working for years and years, trying to nail down a water-color look and all that? Looks like the succeeded in at least that shot of her tower. The trailer is a little Dreamworksy towards the end, but I have a feeling that there probably won't actually be any pop or rock music playing in the actual film.
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Jun 10, 2010 3:06:26 PM CDT
There's an anime where the guy fights with his hair
by creamcheesealchemist
bo^7... Master of the Fist of the Nose-hair.
That said, this looks like the Princess Powers bit suggested and done badly in Shrek. And fun- the sort of thing you'd see in the Silver Age or in One Piece. -
and Christina Hendricks would be my pick if the Inhumans appear in the Fantastic Four movie.Tangled looks like a fun family movie THAT'S NOT A SEQUEL!!
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...that the previews for Bolt, which was what became of Chris Sanders' "American Dog," looked pretty terrible as well, and the movie itself turned out to be surprisingly decent. It looks like "Rapunzel Unbraided" (which has been grounded, like, forever) got the same treatment. So this could turn out to be entertaining, if ultimately disposable.
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Disney (and American animated movies in general) seriously needs to put a nail in that coffin. Even WALL-E, the most experimental animated film Disney's probably ever made, had a cockroach sidekick that got sad when he left.
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"I'm trying to imagine anyone in an audience keeping a straight face as some Medusa broad beats the shit out of the FF4 with her hair, and it's not working."Yeah, I can't imagine that concept playing exceptionally well with modern-day audiences on the big screen. The kind of thing where, if you liked it in the comic book you'd be like "well, sure, yeah, I guess that would work" and then afterward catching a beer with a friend or something they're like "did you catch that load of bullcrap with the chick who beats people up . . . with her HAIR!!!" And they laugh, and the bartender laughs, and everybody at the counter laughs, and you die a little inside.-Cheers
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As I've said numerous times, I basically gave up the comic book habit when I was about fourteen, so, for whatever reason, I most vividly recall Medusa battling the Fantastic Four as part of the Frightful Four (not that I was around for the initial run, but I avidly read reprints and collections of the Silver Age stuff as a kid). Jogging my memory via Google, I now remember her being a hero, but it obviously didn't make as deep an impression as the earlier Lee/Kirby stories.But I'll remove "supervillain" so as to avoid confusing folks who only know the later incarnation of Medusa.
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Going to get a pg-13 cut! This is bull shit. Studios are losing their nerves because this summer has been weak so far. If that movie goes pg-13 I'm just waiting for the R rated DVD. If the pussies at the studios are that worried release two versions of the movie. I've wanted studios to do this forever but they are too lazy! Come on AICN rant about this and maybe stop the raping of movies by greedy studio heads!
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I think this looks pretty good.
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Says so right on the site.
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...they should lose the awful pop music playing in the background. Characters and animation look nice.
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minus the part where it starts playing pop music.
But the animation looks great, it evokes a 2D cartoony-motion feel, which I'm sure is hard to do with three-d animation. -
Jun 10, 2010 3:52:11 PM CDT
Yes, because Marvel invented girls with really long hair!
by return_of_fett
Seriously?
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I created an account JUST to clarify this: Wall-E was Pixar. Disney Animation Studios had nothing to do with it.
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People need to stop imagining dropping every super-hero idea into Nolan's Batman films to see if they'd work or not. People will accept the trippiest, most bizarre thing if you create a film world where that will work. Look at the bizarre crap in billion dollar earner "Alice in Wonderland". Hell, prehensile hair isn't nearly as goofy of a power as Mr. Fantastic's stretchiness, something that's been accepted in both FF and The Incredibles.
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But Lasseter is the head of animation at Disney now, correct? And since Pixar is under the Disney "umbrella" I didn't realize I'd piss anybody off enough to create an account by referring to them both at the same time.
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no feelings of anger; but certainly passionate about it! I can't stand seeing characters like Buzz and Woody now being blanketed into "Disney characters," but I guess that was Lasseter's choice.
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It sort of reminds of Hoodwinked in that its taking a fairytale that didnt really have much plot and expanding it to make a movie. The 3 big fairytales that Disney never did were Rapunzel, Hansel and Gretal and Little Red Riding Hood. Even with the Princess and the Frog, they had to change it to where they turn into frogs to create some sort of story because in the Frog Prince, theres not enough plot to make a real movie.I wish somebody would just make a movie version of the musical Into the Woods and get it over with.
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what's it called again?
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That falls into the realm of how it's presented. Honestly, it sounded terrible until I looked up Medusa's powers, and then thought about it. Still, initially, I think a lot of people would probably have a problem with how that visually played out more so than Galactus or Silver Surfer (quasi-villain turned hero) or Dr. Doom as a character in a FF movie.Then again, if they present it in some way where it's serious and has a good visceral setup, it might go over alright and if the character is strong enough people can overlook lots of stuff. So I'd be open to it. But I'm also more inclined than a lot of people who they are targeting for these movies. Which is why I think some of the characters that comic book fans love might not make it into the movies. But given enough time, who knows?-Cheers
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do a good job, but the director and writers fall absolutely on their face. This seems to be the case here.
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i got an emperors new groove vibe from this, and as we all know the emperors new groove is the worst disney movie ever invented
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The hand-drawn version that was supposedly in the works?
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... was for the F4 reference? So, what was the reason for all the SitC2 articles?
Either you cover everything or you only cover nerdly stuff. Can't have it both ways. -
Put the word "Photos" back together - http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/08/02/gorgeous-new-concept-art-phot os-from-disneys-rapunzel/
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Disney's pretty famous for being completely retarded in how their movies are advertised. Look at the Tim Allen "Shaggy Dog" film? The trailer made it look like a steaming pile of dog shit and nothing surprised me more than finding out it was a pretty descent remake (with Robert Downey Jr as a great villain - who never appeared in ANY of the trailers).
Marketing gimmicks of the movie aside - many people in this thread can agree that that visuals are awesome. They're not blocky like Shrek and still look recognizably Disney. It's like how I can recognize Brad Bird directed The Incredibles because the character style's reminiscent of the Iron Giant. So there's good visuals.
And we know P!nk music's not going to be in the fucking movie itself - it's Alan Motherfucking Menken all the way, and both Mandy Moore and Zachary Levi are good singers. So we're guaranteed decent music and visuals. Granted - Pocahontas had the same and storywise, it still sucked. However - I do like the idea of Rapunzel's hair having power. In the original tale she's pretty fucking passive and the story itself is bizarre (she grows her hair, why?). I like this update of the tale.
So the story may be still up in the air, but based on how entertaining Princess and the Frog was (and how silly its original teasers were) I still have high hopes for this movie. -
The Emperor's New Groove was pretty fricking great
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I loathe recent animated films (like the Shrek series) that use this childish modern phraseology, especially in a historic setting(i.e., "Rapunzel. So. Much. Drama!!!").
From that trailer this POS film looks like it will be falling neatly into that category. -
The pulling along the floor into the darkness scene.
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What a great fucking movie!! I'm sorry, is that off-topic?
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Jun 10, 2010 5:00:45 PM CDT
Traditional Disney Fairy Tales are dead if this is the
by bettercallsaul
direction they are taking. I know the Princess And the Frog wasn't a huge hit, but at least it wasn't a cheese fest, and it had heart, eg. the Firefly. This looks like shit. 3d animation presented in 3d, a ridiculous title, and inexplicable super powered princess, (she isn't Doc Ock, and her hair isn't composed of tentacles). And the prince is basically pulling the same post modern "I'm so handsome, I can make women swoon with a smile" schtick that was used in Shrek 2 and Enchanted. It's been done to death.
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How would YOU adapt the fairy tale of a girl who does literally nothing but stay in a tower all day letting people climb up and down her hair?
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I wouldn't bother adapting a fairy tale about a girl who literally does nothing but stay in a tower all day in the first place.
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I just think about how they turned the "Frog Prince" into the "Princess and the Frog" - a completely different direction from the original tale that was still really enjoyable and gave the female protagonist a LOT more to do. I mean, we all love the classic original three Disney princess movies, but come ON - the so-called "main characters" of Snow White, Cinderella and *shudder* Sleeping Beauty were always in the background in the shadow of the dwarves, mice, and fairies. Yet the stories themselves were completely true to the original fairytale.
Now think about Little Mermaid - a HUGE deviation from the original tale, but it gave us an active female protagonist who participated in the story. And it was an awesome movie. So I don't necessarily mind giving Rapunzel magical hair powers (seriously, that makes sense considering her hair is essentially a form of transport, split ends must be a bitch) and tinkering with the story in order to have a princess who actually fucking DOES something. I'm not disagreeing with the fact that the marketing for this movie could be better - but the advance press for Tangled's been pretty good so I still hold on the idea that it's going to kick all kinds of magical musical ass. -
other than that, i feel like ive just been kicked in the bollocks and called a twat for thinking that Disney had some self respect again.
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The Emperor's New Groove is a favourite of mine and must be one of the most underrated traditionally animated films. I particularly admire the deft avoidance of sentimentality.I like the look of the animation in Tangled. But I seem to remember earlier tests that had a radically different animation style which looked liked animated paintings. It would have been nice to have something which went in another direction completely.
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heh...
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Not an animal, I mean the studio. I think the last decent Marvel Movie they made was X-men 2...7 YEARS AGO. They're keeping their grubby mitts on the rights because they pretty much have nothing else even though it seems everyone wants them to sell the rights back to Disvel...Marney...whatever. Come on, who WOULDN'T want to see Hugh Jackman put in an appearance in Captain America? Not gonna happen though, because Fox suck. Matthew Vaughn, please save us from terrible X-Men movies...you're our only hope.
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all this cg crap just runs together and it all looks the same so wake me when someone has the balls to try something different with it.
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Gotta disagree on the New Groove comment. Emperor's New Groove is one of the effin funniest things to ever come out of Disney. "Why do we even HAVE that lever!?"
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Then you are a pedophile. This film is meant for kids. There are plenty of Big Boy movies out there for you to bitch about. My daughter will love this.
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Does anyone remember the episode of Amazing Stories called "helltoupe"?
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this pisses me off , tangled is such a awful title, why cant they just call is disney's rapunzel
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Jun 10, 2010 6:35:25 PM CDT
Bayonetta beats this shit into the ground, here's why...
by dickballsworth
Just fuck it.
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aka Zach Levi aka his voice actor. It's a cliche running gag in animated flicks, but it's still funny.
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What a fucking joke to focus on the prince in the add and try to trick boys into thinking this is for them. So fucking what if the Princess and the Frog didn't sell as well, that wasn't because it was too girly. Enchanted sold fine and that was VERY girly. Fucking dickheads running Disney. Apparently Lasseter had his brain removed upon getting the job. Up next, the remake of Sleeping Beauty. It's now called Exhausted.
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Thought I'd get that out there for the Guilty Gear fans. She also has hair that functions as a deadly weapon, and she's a blonde t'boot.
Anyway, looks like inoffensive fun to me, not going to change the world but then not every movie has to. And yes, the thief does look a bit like Zach, so if Perlman's character looks like him I'll keep seeing the Chuck/Hellboy TV spot in my head. Not necessarily a bad thing. -
Jun 10, 2010 7:29:28 PM CDT
Did anyone care that it was called "Alice in Wonderland"?
by anna valerious
No, which is what Disney should think about. Strangely enough, before this was made, I always thought of Ewan McGregor in a Disney's "Rapunzel", only it was set in Scotland and he was the hero of the story...though "Brave" is coming close to a Scottish set tale from Disney. (And that name change makes more sense.)
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I really hope Disney manage to stay clear of the insessant pop-culture references that most CG animated movies feel the need to shove in your face every two seconds.
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I agree, in a sense. While I personally believe the film is going to kick ass - I don't like the idea that "it's a film for kids" means it can get away with being stupid and contrived. I'm a huge Disney fan - and I've seen the gorgeous, creative movies they've made that both adults and children like. I've also seen the shit-awful direct-to-DVD elephant-piss they peddle because they think "kids are stupid! They won't know any better!" Which is BULLSHIT. I was the "right age" for Bluth's hackjob "Troll in Central Park" and EVEN AS A KID I knew it was shit. Same for KAZAAM.
That being said - Tangled has a shit-for-brains marketing team, but awesome animators, actors, and writers behind it so it's going to be awesome and I'll be seeing it opening night and I don't care who knows it. -
I wouldn't be surprised if they used a lot of the pixar talents on this movie.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they used a lot of the pixar talents on this movie.
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or nerve endings with which to activate said strands. Science is at least ten years away from cloning people with prehensile hair. I was hoping for an edgier, grittier, more realistic story about a girl in a tower with long hair. Like, "What if this were real? How can we put this in a real-world context?" Because fantasy movies that are overly concerned with realism are awesome.
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That being said, the choice of Pink for the background music in the trailer was God-awful. Fire that person now. My guess is (under the watchful eye of John Lasseter) the finished film will be 10 times better than the trailer made it look. Bolt was twice as good as the trailer made it look.
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Woulda been much better. This is traditionally boring CG. I mean, I'm sure the movie is fine, but . . .
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this tho, who fucking cares.
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mynameisdan: No, because it sucks. It's one of Pink's worst songs. And used very poorly. And sets the wrong tone. Etc.
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6.5 hours into the thread, and not one Paul's Boutique reference? Not even one? OK - allow me: "Rapunzel, Rapunzel, let down your hair, so I can climb up and get into your underwear!" Done.
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"Up next, the remake of Sleeping Beauty. It's now called Exhausted."That was brilliant. I'd probably be more excited by than movie than this one.
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and Emperor's New Groove will kick as every time. People who hate on dat flick like the feeling of a cheese grater on their nards...
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I meant"kick ass" Where's that fucking delete button?
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Jun 11, 2010 2:28:36 AM CDT
They finally make aCGI film with classic Disney look
by david cloverfield
and then they put a fucking Pink song in the trailer. Marketing fucks up years of work by artists. Again.
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This reminds me more of Disney animation in terms of appearance than Pixar. I had the trailer on mute, but I'll check it it out, considering how much I enjoyed Princess and the Frog. I don't mind admitting it - I actually like a lot of the 90s animated Disney films like Mulan, Lion King, Aladdin, Pocahontas, and Beauty and the Beast. For some reason, Princes and the Frog is neatly top on the list. That film's got a helluva lot of charm and it's a shame Disney failed at releasing it at a time when nothing else was COMING OUT. I'll Definitely check this out, even if they changed the title to something I don't really like...and I guess Emperor's New Groove too, as I keep hearing surprising good word of mouth about it here... That said...I wonder if Disney 2D animation will be over with (for films) if this does well.
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Make that film instead of rebooting and remaking and repooping everything in sight.
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It's crazy, not what you would expect from a Disney film. It's more fitted to Cartoon Network. (In a good way.)
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Pixar and Disney stuff have nifty stylized 2D art that I'd rather see on the big screen instead of this overused style.
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Disney could have been making a movie like this 10 years ago, what took them so long? Nice combination of Pixar/Classic Disney Styling, beautiful look that sets it appart - but these people realy need to shake up their story department - HOW ABOUT SOMETHING ORIGINAL? = SPECIAL
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But it looks like it's 100% for kids. There's nothing for the adults.
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...but I would like to see a more serious Disney princess movie. Sleeping Beauty and Snow White were not full of sight gags. This looks like fun, but not much more. My daughters gonna freak for it though.
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...production art for?
That stuff was great, and this is...not.
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So say we all.
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That's what it reminds me of. Hopefully it's above that.
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It seems to have a bit of a "Road to El Dorado" flavor. A movie that I like quite a bit. Plus, with Lasseter at the helm of all Disney animation these days, I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Um, I think you need to watch those movies again. Not that I'm defending sight gags per se, but it's not a recent invention by any means.
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This trailer is terrible. I like the look of the film, but this is supposed to be a musical with songs by Alan Menken so what's with the pink song...very odd marketing, but oh well. I'm sure it will be harmless fun.
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Lighten the fuck up. This looks like fun. Zach sounds pretty terrific, the animation looks pretty good, and everything doesn't have to be "Up".
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The suits would only screw it up, dumb it down, and rape your childhoods yet AGAIN!
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And as for those of you whining about the trailer's quality reflecting the final film, remember the trailers for Enchanted, which made that movie look like it was going to be really cheesy and cringe-worthy. Who could have guessed that it turned out to be far and away Disney's best family film in a decade? Seriously, I love both that film and Amy Adams to pieces, and this coming from a guy that WAS turned off by the commercials. Wait till the movie comes out to condemn it, fellas. Who knows, we might just have another unexpectedly awesome flick on our hands.
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Jun 13, 2010 8:18:07 PM CDT
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