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Live in Chicago? Want to attend the exclusive AICN screening of TOY STORY 3 in IMAX 3-D? Capone has all the details!!!

Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here. I'll be brief because not a lot needs to be said about this other than the fact that it is awesome. The folks at Pixar and Disney have always been gracious with out site about allowing our readers to preview their works early and in the best possible venues. And as long as I've been doing exclusive AICN screenings in Chicago, Pixar has been right there giving us the royal treatment with screenings of WALL-E and UP, and for that we are grateful. It means a lot because for many of us, the early Disney animated films were our entry point into loving movies in general. My earliest memory of seeing a movie was a reissue of BAMBI when I was too young to tie my own shoes (probably in my teens or early 20s). And I'm sure all of us remember our reaction to seeing the revolutionary TOY STORY for the first time and realizing that something in the cinematic universe had shifted for the better. And now Disney/Pixar has done something remarkable for Chicago AICN readers. This Chicago Ain't It Cool News screening of TOY STORY 3 (in 3-D!) will take place this Monday, June 14, 2010 at 7:00pm, at the IMAX Theater at Navy Pier. And we've got the entire theater (about 400 seats to fill). And here's the even better part. Because I want to encourage families to come, each winner will be allowed to bring as many as THREE ADDITIONAL GUESTS (that's four total for those of you bad at math). Here's how to secure a pass good for you and up to three guests. Send me an email at caponeTS3@aintitcoolmail.com (please note the new email address) with the subject line "NO TOY GETS LEFT BEHIND!" In the body of the email, I need your Name, the Number of Guests (up to 3) you'll be bringing (guests' names are NOT required), and the answer to the following question (read carefully): "Which TOY STORY character is your absolute favorite, and why?" Keep your responses BRIEF--limit your answers to 50 words or less (no matter how tempted you are to go over the limit). People with the most creative answers win, and will get an email from me over the weekend, as well as have their names posted on the site. Please make sure all of your guests are confirmed before you enter the contest. People who show up without the number of guests they say they're bring will be given a nasty look. Please keep in mind that although this is an exclusive AICN event, it is slightly overbooked to make sure there is a full house. If you cannot arrive at this screening early, please do not enter. If there's even the slightest chance you'll have to back out of attending if you do win, don't enter. If you have a job that might make you late or unable to attend, or an ill/pregnant relative, or a temperamental significant other, or a scratchy throat, do not enter. Anyone not showing up without informing me ahead of time so I can fill their seats runs the risk of getting blacklisted from future screening contests...it depends on my mood. Good luck, everyone! And thanks to Disney/Pixar. for continuing this awesome tradition. This will be my first time seeing it as well, and I could not be more excited.
-- Capone capone@aintitcool.com Follow Me On Twitter



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  • June 9, 2010, 6:47 p.m. CST

    There need to be more "Live in Columbia, Md" posts

    by Bramton1

    Just sayin.<p>I'd settle for Baltimore or D.C.

  • June 9, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST

    What about the SF Bay Area?

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    We never get any premiers!

  • June 9, 2010, 7:11 p.m. CST

    *premieres

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    (typo: left out the second e)

  • June 9, 2010, 7:12 p.m. CST

    *THIRD e

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Bad typing day! :-P

  • June 9, 2010, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Enter obligatory Incredibles 2 remark here

    by Phategod2

    Where is it?

  • June 9, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST

    NYC

    by imagin78

    Had a great time at the preview screening for "Alice in Wonderland" at Lincoln Center. Would love to see more previews in the Big Apple.

  • June 9, 2010, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Score another one for Chicago!!!

    by Alice Cooper Stalker

    Thank you Aint it cool news and Pixar/Disney!!!

  • June 10, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST

    100,772nd.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 10, 2010, 9:25 a.m. CST

    bitches leave

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 10, 2010, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Jebus!

    by Subtitles_Off

    It couldn't have been "Toys, leave or get left behind" this one time?<P>Think of the children!

  • June 10, 2010, 9:29 a.m. CST

    that looks SO beautiful

    by Six Demon Bag

    100K772

  • June 10, 2010, 9:29 a.m. CST

    shit im sorry..

    by Six Demon Bag

    and i was trying to think of something too..<P>i had nothing.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:30 a.m. CST

    FUCK LUCAS!!

    by Six Demon Bag

    children go to your room.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:33 a.m. CST

    You're a dad, fer cribby's sake.

    by Subtitles_Off

    First you say, "Children go to your room." Then, you drop the b-bombs and the f-bombs.<P>When Li'l Demon runs up to a houseful of your guests and yells, "Bitches, leave, fukken Lucas!!", I don't want to hear you complain about it.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:34 a.m. CST

    I just learned yesterday that Michael Keaton is doing the voice

    by Subtitles_Off

    I'm out of the loop.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:35 a.m. CST

    *the voice of Ken*

    by Subtitles_Off

    Is it just me, or has the subject cut-off just gotten more and more arbitrary?

  • June 10, 2010, 9:51 a.m. CST

    ...never called you ridiculous, Subs...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...I said Kinks to Jonas Bros is a ridiculous comparison, and you know it it. Jonas Brothers are a Disney manufactured child band. That sort of shit existed back in the good'ol days too. "However you want to re-arrange the terms of the discussion so you come up on top, be my guest" <P> That's a little offensive. I consider Arcade Fire to be pop. Indie pop. I'm no musicologist, so I could be technically wrong, but that's the category in my head. It was an honest comparison. Much more so than you loving to put The Beatles and The Kinks up against the Jonas Brothers and Justin fucking Beeper.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:54 a.m. CST

    papa demon has a potty mouth

    by Six Demon Bag

    and the wife took away the crucifixes.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Oh, Jesus.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I never compared The Kinks to The Jonas Brothers.<P>I compared "pop" to "pop."<P>I'm sorry I offended you, Flick. I really am. But I'm offended, too, to be asked "seriously, I really want to know" and then be told I'm "intellectually dishonest."<P>Are we going to hug this one out, or are we going to ram our little bumber cars into each other all day today, as well?

  • June 10, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST

    be nice ladies

    by Six Demon Bag

    i cant explain why i like gaga or katy perry. i just do.<P>its pop..POP is POP. its light, its fluffy its mindless.<P>the beatles (early), kinks, jobro, madonna, MJ, even some prince can be labeled POP<P>its easy and accessible but if you want something more, it can be found there too.<P>think of POP as a gateway drug to good deep music.

  • June 10, 2010, 10:08 a.m. CST

    ..."We can argue forever over the idea that The Beatles...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...and The Kinks or Creedence Clearwater Revival are comparable to The Jonas Brothers, Kanye West and Taylor Swift. I'll just never buy it."<P> Who would make such an argument? Not me. You're setting up heavyweights against straw men.<P> Don't worry, no Ramming Bumbercars.

  • June 10, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST

    My take on Pop Music.

    by STLost

    I tend to live in the past when it comes to my music. The music I grew up on (70s,80s,early 90s) and that's how I like it. If I happen to hear music nowadays that I like, I'll listen. It doesn't happen very often, though.

  • June 10, 2010, 10:22 a.m. CST

    "Who would make such an argument?"

    by Subtitles_Off

    I would. I was asked - "seriously, I want to know" - why I consider the "pop" of my time superior to the "pop" of today.<P> There's my answer. Maybe the use of the word "comparable" is the problem? <P>On the radio as "pop" when I was growing up, you heard The Beatles, The Kinks, Stevie Wonder, The Monkees, The Carpenters (there, I've thrown a couple of crappy ones in there for you) and Creedence Clearwater Revival. I haven't begun to scratch the surface, and, yet, it seems - to me, without the least concern whether you agree - that is a broad range of inarguable substance. Today's radio doesn't give you Arcade Fire unless you're hooked up to a satellite. Today's radio gives you The Jonas Brothers, Maroon5, Justin Bieber, Kanye West, Lady GaGa, whoever was on "American Idol" recently, and Taylor Swift. And I - again, with no need for confirmation - don't find any of it stimulating, in the least.<P>I understand you don't think The 60s are as great as everyone makes them out to be, just as you should understand I don't think today is nearly as fun or diverse as you want to believe it is. <P>That is, if you seriously want to know. If you want to be correct, you're going to have as hard a time convincing me as I am going to have convincing you.

  • June 10, 2010, 10:32 a.m. CST

    ...so what, your beef is with radio?

    by FlickaPoo

    ...that's a pretty specific complaint. Radio is the barometer of an entire culture?<P> That's pretty arbitrary...why not ham radio? Why not the quality of content and energetic style of telegraph messages? <P> Everybody knows radio as a music delivery service sucks these days...who gives a shit?<P> And for the record, I've never said contemporary music is better than music in the 60s. Rock was young, of course it was more vibrant. My argument was that there's a life cycle to these things and you have to let it go...and that constantly proclaiming that everything was great and now everything is terrible....and singling out crap like Justin Beebler as your EXIBIT A is <P> 1- insulting to people younger than you, and <P> 2- tedious

  • June 10, 2010, 10:58 a.m. CST

    ...internet killed the radio star?

    by Hi5Effect

    I think web communites and online radio and podcasts have drawn the audiences away from wave radio stations.<P> The Web has created such oppurtunity for diversity (from sexual fetishes to music) that there<P> is no need or opportunity for the Beatles or whoever to sweep the nation off its feet. <P>Thank you for the Jersey Girl lyrics Mr. Off. That's a great song even in text form.

  • June 10, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Morning guys....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Can we not let sleeping POP dogs lie today? We have a guest...Hello, 5man...welcome to the Pedalback...

  • June 10, 2010, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Noe need for formalities here, 5man...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    It's Cheeses, Subs and Flick...Mr. Off was Sub's dad...

  • June 10, 2010, 11:07 a.m. CST

    ...more Peeping Tom than guest...

    by Hi5Effect

    ...(Peebing Tom?)

  • June 10, 2010, 11:07 a.m. CST

    'Noe' need for proper spelling either, appparently...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 11:08 a.m. CST

    You've come across us before, haven't you?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 11:08 a.m. CST

    whatever you say Cheeses

    by Hi5Effect

    shame tho, Mr. Nazareth is a totally kickass handle.

  • June 10, 2010, 11:16 a.m. CST

    "I was under the impression that you were a man who could bite h

    by Hi5Effect

    Mr. Nazareth said, his voice sounding like garbage truck with a muffler problem.<P>"I was, I mean I am, I swear I am Mr. Nazareth. I didn't say a goddam ting, I swear." <P> The kid looked like he was going to piss himself, probably was too, when Mr. Nazareth starts in on a man, they always piss themselves.

  • June 10, 2010, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Hey Cheeses...

    by STLost

    hi Hi5

  • June 10, 2010, 11:17 a.m. CST

    ite his tongue"

    by Hi5Effect

    !@#$Fing title fomrat bullshit...

  • June 10, 2010, 11:17 a.m. CST

    i think subs and flick killed each other in their

    by Six Demon Bag

    civil duel.

  • June 10, 2010, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Mornin' Lostman...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 11:20 a.m. CST

    We're taking over. HaHAH!

    by D.Vader

  • June 10, 2010, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Ass-Kickers Squad 1889, Conti

    by D.Vader

    Holy shit. I love the inclusion of Agent James T. West, but I'm especially digging the Valley of Gwangi.<p> This comic book series would rock so fucking hard.

  • June 10, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST

    I was just thinking that BP should use it's time machines...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    to assemble their own catstraphe Ass Kickers...Jacques Cousteau, Aquaman, Red Adair, and the 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' crew...

  • June 10, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST

    I've had 3 jobs cancel on me this week

    by D.Vader

    I'm fucking pissed. That's $2150 out of my pocket this month. Time to file for unemployment.

  • June 10, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Joe Carnahan...

    by D.Vader

    The more he does, the more I believe he's not really that good of a filmmaker. Or an original storyteller. At all. Just another gun for hire.

  • June 10, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Don't forget the Snorks, Cheeses

    by D.Vader

  • June 10, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Don't forget the Snorks, Cheeses

    by D.Vader

  • June 10, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST

    White Vades, you hear of this graphics competition?

    by D.Vader

    mentioned here at AICN?<p> http://www.aintitcool.com/n ode/45423

  • June 10, 2010, 11:27 a.m. CST

    WAX ON, FUCK OFF!

    by Six Demon Bag

    http://tinyurl.com/35ujeef

  • June 10, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Calvin Klein's Obsesion for Men..not only good for attrackting..

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    'cougars' but scientists are using it to trap Jaguars...<p>http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100610/od_nm/us_jaguars_calvinklein

  • June 10, 2010, 11:39 a.m. CST

    That was great, Sixies!

    by Subtitles_Off

    Fukken &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>great!

  • June 10, 2010, 11:54 a.m. CST

    ralph is such a nice guy

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 10, 2010, 11:55 a.m. CST

    katy perry bought her FY-ance a trip to space..

    by Six Demon Bag

    is it one way?

  • June 10, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Speaking of going into space...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    SOMEBODY at NASA is HIGH!!!<p>http://tinyurl.com/26ghmt8

  • June 10, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Thanks D. Vader, but I fucked up on the 1889 team

    by Continentalop

    I can't believe I forgot Brisco County Jr. Fuck me.

  • June 10, 2010, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Fuck you?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Fuck Lucas!!!

  • June 10, 2010, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

    by STLost

  • June 10, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST

    hey guys

    by water_shit_anderson

  • June 10, 2010, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Hiyarrhea!

    by Subtitles_Off

    You doin' alright?

  • June 10, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Hi!

    by water_shit_anderson

    i'm pretty swell. Hows about you?

  • June 10, 2010, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Good to hear it.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 10, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Watermanster...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    what up?

  • June 10, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST

    fuck the fuck outta fucking lucas

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 10, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST

    hi cheesemanster..

    by water_shit_anderson

    Not up to very much. Its been pretty nice recently so i've been having some camp fires evening times. What have you guys been doing?

  • June 10, 2010, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Lucas Laughs at attempts to 'FUCK' him...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    safe in the knowledge that only he can fuck an entire generation out of their childhood....<p>"HaHaHa..." he laughs, wiping his dick across Harrison Ford's lips...

  • June 10, 2010, 12:54 p.m. CST

    You know who else you forgot, Conti?

    by D.Vader

    Zorro. Gotta have a Mexican in there.

  • June 10, 2010, 12:56 p.m. CST

    This new Wind in the Willows adaptation

    by D.Vader

    Sounds fucking terrible. A stupid ripoff of Fantastic Mr. Fox. Fuck those involved.

  • June 10, 2010, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Yeah, but Zorro was in the beginning of the Century

    by Continentalop

    When California was still owned by Spain. I should make a 1829 Ass Kickers Team. <P> And I did have a Mexican - the Cisco Kid!

  • June 10, 2010, 1 p.m. CST

    Ah fuck me.

    by D.Vader

  • June 10, 2010, 1:04 p.m. CST

    You got mail, diarrhea.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 10, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST

    im gonna grab the throat pouch and fold it

    by Six Demon Bag

    like a tortilla and fuck the shit outta it!<P>HIAWATHA!!<P>HIAWATHA!!

  • June 10, 2010, 1:18 p.m. CST

    ok subs!

    by water_shit_anderson

    sorry i still haven't answered that other one, being rather sloth like..

  • June 10, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Sloths've gotta be cool animals.

    by Subtitles_Off

    To have survived for millennium, ugly as they are.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:23 p.m. CST

    But, you did include Brett Maverick, Conti

    by Stabby

    That makes me happy. Especially since you did not include James Rockford in Team 1979.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:23 p.m. CST

    was that the one you were referring to?

    by water_shit_anderson

    I don't have any newer ones from you besides the pantheon one from a few days ago.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Nah. I just sent you one.

    by Subtitles_Off

    With some Bowie attached.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    did anyone see MEN WHO STARE AT GOATS?

    by Six Demon Bag

    pretty weak.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST

    i see what they were trying to do..

    by Six Demon Bag

    but it was just a little off.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST

    something must have gone wrong during subspace delivery

    by water_shit_anderson

    i don't see it, rats

  • June 10, 2010, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Some really liked it, Sixies. Some didn't, so much.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I'm with you on that one.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Well, I'll send it again, if it doesn't show up in a minute.

    by Subtitles_Off

    It can be summed up, thusly: "I'm not doing nothing. Thanks for asking."

  • June 10, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST

    i just finished all three seasons of mad men

    by water_shit_anderson

    i was very impressed. I think its the most high quality non-miniseries tv show i've ever seen.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Cool, are you ready to start reading a book?

    by Subtitles_Off

    I've got one to recommend ya.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Yeah i need to get back into books

    by water_shit_anderson

    What do you recommend?

  • June 10, 2010, 1:36 p.m. CST

    David Mitchell

    by Subtitles_Off

    BLACK SWAN GREEN. It's a British coming-of-ager, about a stuttering thirteen-14 year-old in Thatcher's England. Really creative use of slang and an easy read. I've only had three short sessions with it, and I'm 20-or-so pages from the end.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:38 p.m. CST

    I'm tryna come up with an Ultimate Ass Kicker Drinking Team

    by Stabby

    So far I got Henry Chinaski, Henry MIller, Dean Martin, Arthur Bach, Bender the Robot, Barney Gumble, André the Giant, Raul Duke and Winston Churchill

  • June 10, 2010, 1:38 p.m. CST

    sounds interesting. I will check it out

    by water_shit_anderson

    hopefully my library has it. I haven't been to the library in years.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:41 p.m. CST

    still no subspace

    by water_shit_anderson

    I don't get it. <p> thanks yahoo.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Stabs, I learn something new every day.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Andre the Giant was a drinker?

  • June 10, 2010, 1:44 p.m. CST

    He's number 2 on an all time list I found

    by Stabby

    Supposedly because of his size it took him enormous quantities to get drunk.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:46 p.m. CST

    I'm thinking of going to Wizard World Comic Con this weekend

    by Stabby

    to see Adam West, Capt. Picard and Bruce Campbell. I never go to this type of $hit, but what a line up. Now, if I can only find someone to go with.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:48 p.m. CST

    That's part of the story, then.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Andre's always ribbing the others over the quantity that gets 'em hammered.<P>Andre the Giant drinking Winston Churchill under the table. HA!<P>But, they're all from different time periods. Which drunk time-traveler did they nick the tech off of?

  • June 10, 2010, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Oh, and Cheeses of Nazareth

    by Stabby

    He could definitely hold his own among the rank of the Ultimate Ass Kicker Drinking Team.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Hot

    by Stabby

  • June 10, 2010, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Tub

    by Stabby

  • June 10, 2010, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Hm.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Will he be insulted or flattered to be turned into a fictional character?

  • June 10, 2010, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Time Machine?

    by Stabby

  • June 10, 2010, 1:51 p.m. CST

    That'll work.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Those guys drank a lot in that movie, I imagine.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Ok I got it

    by Stabby

    Reverend Jim Ignatowski and a certain time traveling Delorean.

  • June 10, 2010, 1:53 p.m. CST

    One of the "Docs" has fallen on bad times, has he?

    by Subtitles_Off

    On account of all the drinking?

  • June 10, 2010, 1:58 p.m. CST

    talk to you guys later

    by water_shit_anderson

    Peace!

  • June 10, 2010, 2 p.m. CST

    Seeyarrhea!

    by Subtitles_Off

    Have a great evening.

  • June 10, 2010, 2 p.m. CST

    Me and Churchill and Andre go to this bar....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 2:01 p.m. CST

    WHO TARD'D

    by Six Demon Bag

    THE AZTECS<P>FIRST DOCTOR--STORY 6--Though this isnt the first story arc, it was the first available so here it is.<P>The Doctor and the gang timewarp to the aztec times and are immediately taken to be outsiders and/or gods. One of the girls in the group (which consists of a strapping young lad, the doc, and two girls), wearing a charm bracelet EXACTLY like the natives deity does, is mistaken for her.<P>hijinks ensue and the doctor is weary of trying to change the future, whereas the "diety" girl decides to save people from being sacrificed to appease the sun. will she succumb to her destiny or shut the hell up and listen to the doctor?<P>basically its the generic time travel DONT CHANGE THE FUTURE set up, but i'll give it a pass because this is really old and it might be the first time the plotline has been used.<P>technical aspects are less endearing..its strictly amateur hour and the strength of the acting is on par with the background characters of STAR TREK. but this is one of the first story arcs, so i'll see if it gets better. I wont lie, i was entertained and the shoddy production didnt wear out its welcome, but this is gonna be a rough haul if it doesnt get better.<P>NEXT UP--THE DALEKS

  • June 10, 2010, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Likewise!

    by water_shit_anderson

  • June 10, 2010, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Watch your mail fer stragglers.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Sumptimes mail is slothlike, too.

  • June 10, 2010, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Sixies, what I remember of DR. WHO,

    by Subtitles_Off

    it's low-tech, to be sure. Probably until the contemporary re-boot.

  • June 10, 2010, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Yo, Cheesy

    by Stabby

    Sorry I included you in that post yesterday. I wasn't implying that your daughter was a stripper only that you would be cool with it if she were, which I find very enlightened of you and personally fascinating. I'm kind of a prude myself as you know. We've discussed similar topics before. Sounds like you're a great dad and you got a cool daughter. Just keep her away from D.Vader and that creepy stalker epic email writer.

  • June 10, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Don't get me wrong, Stabby...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I have certainly discouraged pole dancing, but once she thought she would get me riled up by declaring she got a job as a waitress in a strip bar, but instead of being mad I was "Way to go..."<p>She got so mad and went to screaming how I was a terrible dad, so I told her it was that or find another job...which she did...I know her a lot better than she knows herself...

  • June 10, 2010, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Wow, 6DB, you're really going through with it

    by Stabby

    God bless your demonic soul.

  • June 10, 2010, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Gotta make a beer run....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    back in a flash...

  • June 10, 2010, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Sixies,

    by Subtitles_Off

    I stard'd a TARD'D thread youknowwhere. Hope you don't mind.

  • June 10, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST

    dont mind at all..

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 10, 2010, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Good.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Post 'em there, too, if you feel like it. That way I won't miss any.

  • June 10, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST

    im also juggling DEEP SPACE NINE too

    by Six Demon Bag

    what the hell was i thinking?

  • June 10, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    You were thinking,

    by Subtitles_Off

    "Lettuce see how much sci-fi I can cram into my nog at once."<P>Or, you were thinking, "Man, if I commit to all of this, Subs won't be after me to watch PATHS OF GLORY."

  • June 10, 2010, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Check the Subspace, Subster...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Afternoon, you sons o' bitches.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 2:47 p.m. CST

    PATHS OF GLORY this weekend..

    by Six Demon Bag

    defintely..<P>oooh and i need to watch ALIENS sometime.

  • June 10, 2010, 2:47 p.m. CST

    are we gonna shoot for a liveblog of ALIENS anytime soon?

    by Six Demon Bag

    cause id be so down for that..

  • June 10, 2010, 2:48 p.m. CST

    how are you cheeses?

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 10, 2010, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Make no mistake. I'm after you fuckers to watch

    by ColonelFatheart

    PATHS OF GLORY, too.

  • June 10, 2010, 2:48 p.m. CST

    10000 does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    The Hallowed Halls Of The Pedalback...<p> Are we lucky few at 10,000 yet?<p> Has Godzilla finally trashed Tokyo? And who made that legendary post?

  • June 10, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Doin' great Sixman...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    on vacation and just finished my first beer...You?

  • June 10, 2010, 2:53 p.m. CST

    You've left off a "0", Cobes.

    by Subtitles_Off

    And it was Ess, and, afterwards, she opened her blouse and released butterflies.<P>We thought for sure you'd sense it from wherever you were.

  • June 10, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Deep Space 9 is pretty good,...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    especially when you get to the Dominion War...

  • June 10, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Stabby, Re: Ultimate Ass-Kickers Drinking Team

    by Continentalop

    Ben "The Drunk" Franklin. Founding member.

  • June 10, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Whoever has ALIENS on DVD should do that.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Unless it's on TV sometime this month.

  • June 10, 2010, 2:55 p.m. CST

    And that sweet, sweet Jadzia Dax...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Hiya, Col.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 10, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Legitimacy does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Ha! I just read in the previous thread that guy who wrote 1000 carefully-considered words about why we shouldn't be Pedalbacking...<p> Hilarious. What a knobhead. We should make him an honorary Peeber for his troubles.

  • June 10, 2010, 2:59 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    100,000!! (what's a 0 between buddies)...<p> I hope due reverence was paid... Subs do you have the time that it happened i'd like to reeeewind to that moment.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Yeah, what was up with that guy?

    by ColonelFatheart

    Was he a black boxer in disguise? Or a former PBer? Or a current PBer playing devil's advocate?

  • June 10, 2010, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Hi, Subs.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Cobes, I will take this opportunity to once more

    by Subtitles_Off

    remind you that simply by joining up @ The Shelter, all this information and more would be right at the tips of your own finger, and, then, since I don't want to be considered a harpie, I'll share...<P>100,000th post:<br> aintitcool.com/talkback_display/45364#comment_3385693 <P> Pedalback stats @ 100K: <br> aintitcool.com/talkback_display/45364#comment_3385775

  • June 10, 2010, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Col., which one? We've had at least 3 by my count.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 10, 2010, 3:12 p.m. CST

    and if you join the shelter now

    by Six Demon Bag

    you get this collectors plate free*<P>the plate is a character likeness of all the peebrews gathered around a table ala LAST SUPPER gazing upon the queen Ess as she unfurls the butterflies.<P><P><br>*2.95 shipping and handling.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:18 p.m. CST

    HA! Sixies!

    by Subtitles_Off

    That'll snare him, fer shure.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Subs, see if you got pics in the box...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Not yet, Cheeses.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 10, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    The most recent one. The one that melted Cheeses'

    by ColonelFatheart

    cool exterior.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST

    I thought I was nice to him...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Cheeses' exterior melts like,

    by Subtitles_Off

    well, like Cheese.<P>You mean Hi5, or watch_the_world_burn, or Winona_Ryder's_Cock_Shaped_Helmet?<P>I don't know what's up with any of them.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST

    You were nice to him.

    by ColonelFatheart

    You said he chapped your hide, though.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST

    You're nice to everybody, Cheeses, and good on ya.

    by Subtitles_Off

    That's the way you're supposed to be.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Watch the world burn. That one.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 3:27 p.m. CST

    100,000 does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    100,000 - I'd like to say a few words...<p> When the original 'Gary Oldman Back Pedals' thread began on the long crawl towards 1,000 to 2,000 and upwards I thought to myself here we go this is the Baleback all over again.<p> But I honestly didn't think it would make 10,000 let alone 100,000. There just wasn't enough funny material in the subject (after all Bale's rant had plenty to sink your comedic teeth into)...<p> But things here were progressing in a different way. Not better or worse, just different. And as the Pedalback has progressed it's taken on a level of diversity and depth unlike any other thread this site's ever seen. We've told Stories, we've live-blogged... we've officialised the Peebers and welcomed new ones... we've got Alfie's and Hoagies and a Pantheon... some guy some other guy and a load of reviews... we've got Subbarys and post counts and a feeling of purpose behind the randomness... but most of all we have camaraderie. The kind of comrade-ship that only develops when a bunch of guys (and girl) talk shit with each other for over 300 days.<p> So bravo to 100,000. And bravo to all of you. It's been a pleasure. (shakes hands in manly way with all Peebers).

  • June 10, 2010, 3:27 p.m. CST

    That's a good one, Conti, Ben's their Obi Wan

    by Stabby

    I would also throw in Vern Troyer and Hank the Angry Dwarf just because it will be visually amusing to see them standing next to Andre the Giant. Also, they're both major alcoholics.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Nicely said, Cobes.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Manly pat on the back to you - not on the arse, although that's the way the rugby and football players do it.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:30 p.m. CST

    THE ASS-KICKER SQUAD: 1988 - SUBSTITUTE ASS-KICKING

    by Continentalop

    When a dangerous crisis pops up and the Ass-Kicker Squad already on a mission to rescue the USS Montana in the Cayman Trough, Colonel Sam Trautman has no choice but turn to Edna Garrett for help. Despite the fact that her last team’s mission ended tragically, Edna sets out to procure the services of her old comrade-now suicidal ex-junkie Kimberly Drummond, Dorothy "Tootie" Ramsey (last survivor of Edna’s old team), pugnacious Penelope “Punky” Brewster, “small wonder” Victoria "Vicki" Ann Smith-Lawson a.k.a V.I.C.I (Voice Input Child Identicant), and human/Visitor hybrid Elizabeth Maxwell. Edna has the girls flown out on the hi-tech helicopter the Airwolf to an Antarctic research station where nefarious Texas oil tycoon J.R. Ewing has accidentally revived some...thing...that is capable of absorbing and perfectly imitating other life-forms.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST

    So Say We All, Cobes!

    by Stabby

    So Say We All!

  • June 10, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    THE ASS-PATTER SQUAD

  • June 10, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Fucking A, Cobes.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Alien Life Form

    by Stabby

    A.L.F.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Stabby, I think Hank could outdrink Andre

    by Continentalop

    OK, maybe not. But that would be the Ultimate buddy drinking comedy duo.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:36 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    THE ASS-PATTER SQUAD..<p> Featuring Conti 'the clutch' Lop..<p> Flick-her-pantie-elastic-Poo..<p> Hands_Off..<p> And the fiery grip of Six Demon Fingers.<p> Tagline: THEY CAME FROM BEHIND!

  • June 10, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    HHHHAAAA!!!! Cobraman...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 3:38 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    SDB, I wonder if we can all chip in and commission Flicka to illustrate that picture?<p> The Last Supper of the Peebers done like Da Vinci with a lactating Waitress in the centre would be A W E S O M E !

  • June 10, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    I'd be one of the disciples craning his mouth round to try and catch a milky rain drop.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Turns out Mork from Orc and ALF...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    are leading the Alien invasions of Earth for the past 40 years with all the multiple attacks of Puppet Masters, The Body Snatchers, Blobs, Things, Triffids, Killer babie spawns and smart Blonde psychic kids...

  • June 10, 2010, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Cheeses! Cool!

    by Subtitles_Off

    Reply sent.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Speaking of Saturday Morning Cartoons; remember this:

    by Stabby

    http://tinyurl.com/3733pbg

  • June 10, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Also, the Third Rock Gang help coordinate attacks, too...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Conti

    by Stabby

    I'm cracking myself up just thinking about that comedy duo. Just from the thought of their voices in conversation alone.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST

    i would hang that plate in my house and

    by Six Demon Bag

    when we have company over for fancy dinner..i would set it out on the table for the "pebrew elijah"--michael caine.<P>talk about conversation starter

  • June 10, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Pebrew Elijah!

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 3:49 p.m. CST

    If you could go back and cast Hank the Angry Dwarf

    by Stabby

    in The Princess Bride alongside Andre the Giant it would make an already classic film a comedic masterpiece.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST

    "Hey Gulliver! Hey Gulliver!"

    by Stabby

    "Oh, $hit! I forgot the little people can't keep pace with us."

  • June 10, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST

    6DB, but wouldn't it be awesome

    by Continentalop

    If he SHOWED UP! <P> "Can I have some bloody more mash potatoes?"

  • June 10, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Or made the film Billy Crystal really wanted to make

    by Continentalop

    MY FRIEND THE GIANT...AND HIS FRIEND THE ANGRY DRUNK DWARF!

  • June 10, 2010, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Les Grossman: Get Him To The Chinese

    by Stabby

    As in Mann's Chinese Theater.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:57 p.m. CST

    to entice a CAINE

    by Six Demon Bag

    have a young floozy tart and a saucer of gin<P>CAINE will come.

  • June 10, 2010, 3:58 p.m. CST

    The best part, Conti

    by Stabby

    is that Andre the Giant was also a legendary angry drunk. So, imagine these two drunk freaks both pissed off at the world about their freakishness.

  • June 10, 2010, 4 p.m. CST

    Hank riding on Andre's shoulder like Yoda

    by Stabby

    destroying everyone and everything in their path with their drunk freak retard strength.

  • June 10, 2010, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Stabby those two should have been cast in Mad Max 3

    by Continentalop

    As Master Blaster.

  • June 10, 2010, 4:02 p.m. CST

    I'm gonna try one.

    by Subtitles_Off

    P.T. Barnum's Ass-Kickers: Chan and Eng, Jo-Jo, The Dog-Faced Boy, John Merrick, Tom Thumb, and, since it's a time-displaced group, a fat, smoking Indonesian baby.<P>"Ohp. OHP!"

  • June 10, 2010, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Hey Guys...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I just dropped some 20+ year old comics work I used to do when I still wanted to be a comics artist...its at the Shelter, so if you get a chance, look at what I was doing almost a lifetime ago...<p>It's from a Comics APA, called Klordny, all about the Legion of Super heroes...My 'zine was Legion Laundry...I also did a series called "Adventures in the 30th Century"...It was a lot of fun...

  • June 10, 2010, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Nice stuff, Cheeses.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Colonel...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 4:34 p.m. CST

    This I gotta see!

    by TedKordLives

    Heya gang!

  • June 10, 2010, 4:34 p.m. CST

    JGL rumored to be The Riddler in BATNOLAN 3?

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Higher Teducation! What's up?

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Hey Teddy...Check it out...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Hope you like...

  • June 10, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    I WANT THAROK!

    by TedKordLives

    ROCK! <P> Hey, good stuff there, Cheeses. Was that second one Shadow Lass, or Umbra (whatever they were calling her then)?

  • June 10, 2010, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Rockin the Periodicals, the usual.

    by TedKordLives

    You'd think having a keg fridge would be cool, but then you start waking up an hour late for work every day. And it takes me an hour to get here, too.

  • June 10, 2010, 4:46 p.m. CST

    The July Vanity Fair...

    by TedKordLives

    ...Has an article on the making of the 'Thriller' video that's pretty interesting, so far.

  • June 10, 2010, 4:47 p.m. CST

    (Quickly looks around to see if ST is in the place.)

    by Subtitles_Off

    Rumored by whom, Col.?

  • June 10, 2010, 4:48 p.m. CST

    'Sup, Pebrews?

    by ScaryWaitress

    What's this nonsense about someone going off on why we shouldn't be Pedalbacking? What a load.

  • June 10, 2010, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Teddy..And, Yeah...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    there's one of Shadow Lass, two of Andromeda (Supergirl), one of the White Witch, a Dawnstar/Dreamgirl tag team and one of a chick I forget her name but she was a living Green lantern Power Battery...I loved doing pin ups...I used Playboy and Swimsuit mags for poses and face structures...

  • June 10, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Here's a link, Subs.

    by ColonelFatheart

    http://tinyurl.com/2v6efvy

  • June 10, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Hi, Scary...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Why it's Little Miss 100K herself!

    by ColonelFatheart

    Behold the bountiful queen of the Pedalback!

  • June 10, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST

    'Lo, Ess.

    by Subtitles_Off

    June 7th @ 1:30-ish, if I remember.

  • June 10, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Well, Nolan tends to recycle the talent

    by Subtitles_Off

    from one project to the next, so it's not hard to believe.<P>It's set the fanboys to whining for a month.

  • June 10, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Oh, yeah, Dawnstar.

    by TedKordLives

    Recognized her from Heroclix but couldn't remember her name. <P> Too many of those darned Legionistas!

  • June 10, 2010, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Heya SW.

    by TedKordLives

    Think I got one of those damn butterflies in my ear the other night!

  • June 10, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    "The Lizard" for the Spidey re-boot

    by Subtitles_Off

    makes less sense.

  • June 10, 2010, 5 p.m. CST

    I like JGL, so I think it'd be a good call.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Poor Dylan Baker. Raimi and Co. spent so much time

    by ColonelFatheart

    setting him up with no payoff.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:04 p.m. CST

    One shameless dunderhead deserves another:

    by ColonelFatheart

    http://tinyurl.com/28jhquu

  • June 10, 2010, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Ah, Dylan Baker got some paychecks.

    by TedKordLives

    I doubt that he was seeing the Lizard as a 'sure thing', anyway. Especially after the third movie.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:11 p.m. CST

    McCain needs to fire his staff.

    by Subtitles_Off

    It's clear he didn't write that.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:11 p.m. CST

    McCain's a Twitterin' fool!

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 5:12 p.m. CST

    I can actually see him writing that, Subs.

    by ColonelFatheart

    He'll stoop to any level to pander for support, even if it means dropping a rather labored "Situation" reference.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:14 p.m. CST

    RE: JGL.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Aside from MYSTERIOUS SKIN, I've liked him in everything I've seen. I don't really think you can blame MYSTERIOUS SKIN on him, either.<P>But, he just plays young. A kid. He's not a threat. And unlike Heath Ledger, who had the advantage of playing a wild card, he doesn't have any make-up to hide under.<P>But, we've said it a million times before, and since I'm s'posed to be avoiding it all anyway, I should just shut up about it. It's not a batman made for my enjoyment, anyway, is it.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Why, why do people keep voting for Republicans?

    by ColonelFatheart

    Indiana Rep. Mike Pence was on CNBC yesterday saying that BP should definitely fix the leak, etc., but that the government should have to pay for the shore cleanup because, uh, that's "our coastline." <p>I'm sorry, Rep. Pence. If some drunken idiot were to shit and vomit all over my vinyl siding, and I caught him in the act, you better be damn sure he's paying for the fucking damage and cleanup.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Keep Cheese's daughter away from D.Vader?

    by D.Vader

    What am I gonna do?!

  • June 10, 2010, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Ah, Subs. I forgot about your non-spoiler rule.

    by ColonelFatheart

    I'll refrain from being explicit in headlines from now on.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Col., "u r right, I would never tax your tanning bed"

    by Subtitles_Off

    Granted, McCain has sort of exposed himself as a bit of a dodgy old man, but I don't see him Tweeting. He's fukken seventy-something, isn't he?

  • June 10, 2010, 5:17 p.m. CST

    By the way, I'm sorry to see you and Flick

    by ColonelFatheart

    get in a tussle like that. I hope all wounds heal soon.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:18 p.m. CST

    It's OK, Col.

    by Subtitles_Off

    The rule is imposed on myself. Not on others.<P>Besides, I think I made an exemption on speculative casting.<P>ST'll keep me honest if I go too far off the rails.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:19 p.m. CST

    He's a serial tweeter, Subs.

    by ColonelFatheart

    Maybe he is having staffers do it, but he knows what they're tweeting and approves of it. That tanning bed one is pretty par for the course.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Wot tussle?

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 10, 2010, 5:21 p.m. CST

    The pop duel

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 5:22 p.m. CST

    POP! Goes the Pedalback

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Indiana's Mike Pence is an outright eejit.

    by Subtitles_Off

    We are represented by those that most resemble us, are we not?

  • June 10, 2010, 5:25 p.m. CST

    THAT was a good book!

    by Subtitles_Off

    Coming to the end of a good book always makes me feel a little melancholy.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:26 p.m. CST

    All right, Peebs, I need to split for the evening.

    by ColonelFatheart

    Keep it really really real. <p>And keep on fuckin' that chicken.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Later, Col.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 10, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Seeya Colon-El.

    by TedKordLives

    Watch out for Bryan Singer.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:32 p.m. CST

    I think I liked TROPIC THUNDER more than most...

    by TedKordLives

    ...But does anyone want a spinoff starring Tom Cruise's character? <P> I was upset that he didn't get any comeuppance for being a huge prick.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Everyone thinks everyone wants a spin-off

    by Subtitles_Off

    starring Tom Cruise's character. If this thing with Cameron Diaz tanks, he could do worse than disappear into a fat-suit comedy.<P>Ask Eddie Murphy.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Mike Myers should beat him to it and make

    by Subtitles_Off

    a Fat Bastard movie. Sure, it would bomb, but it is his idea.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:39 p.m. CST

    The thing with Diaz IS gonna tank.

    by TedKordLives

    There's a movie out Friday with the same premise, starring younger and hipper actors. <P> And it's gonna tank too. <P> And dear < P >, don't even joke about a Fat Bastard movie. Myers' Scottish accent was tired before the first Austin Powers movie even came out.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Teddy, if you're talking about THE KILLERS,

    by Subtitles_Off

    it came out &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>last &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br>week and has already "tanked."

  • June 10, 2010, 5:43 p.m. CST

    AAAAAAA! Fat Suit Rage!

    by TedKordLives

    The fat suit has been employed correctly in cinema just once, in my opinion. And that was in Stephen King's Thinner, starring the incredibly awesome Robert John Burke. <P> Subby, are you familiar with the films of Hal Hartley?

  • June 10, 2010, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Nope, Teddy. Haven't seen a one of them.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 10, 2010, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Ah. Well, there you go then.

    by TedKordLives

    I musta knew that. I check out boxofficemojo every monday to see the grosses. My indifference to THE KILLERS is staggering.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:48 p.m. CST

    I think JGL as Riddler

    by Continentalop

    Is a lot like the Michael Caine "Depp is Riddler" rumors. Fanboys started it and someone from inside just repeating that. <P> I actually got a weird feeling my dream of Penguin in the next Batman is going to happen.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:48 p.m. CST

    They're good stuff, Subby. Existential, even.

    by TedKordLives

    I'd recommend SIMPLE MEN or HENRY FOOL, firstly. <P> Hey, we got name-checked over in the IndyBack when they updated it with a bit of you-know-what from Frank Marshall. Neat-O!

  • June 10, 2010, 5:48 p.m. CST

    KILLERS is so bad

    by Continentalop

    You mentally block out the release date.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Can I say,

    by Subtitles_Off

    Beaks has it up his ass.<P>"Disney Draws From The Marvel Well For Medusa-Like Rapunzel In TANGLED!"<P>Marvel gets credit for long hair, now?

  • June 10, 2010, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Heya Conti

    by TedKordLives

    You may be right, and here's why: Burton's freak show take on the character is so far removed from the logical, realistic take that you could do with Penguin that he becomes a viable (I'd imagine) candidate. Being one of Bats' more high-profile baddies doesn't hurt, either.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:53 p.m. CST

    "We got name-checked?"

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 10, 2010, 5:53 p.m. CST

    THIS JUST IN!

    by TedKordLives

    Marvel Comics creates Greek, Norse Mythology!

  • June 10, 2010, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Well Subs

    by Continentalop

    If Rapunzel can control her hair like it was alive and make it grab people and shit, yeah that is a little like Marvel's Medusa. But that is one of those things I could see someone develop without ever reading a Marvel comic come up on their own. <P> It's like saying the Incredible Shrinking Man is based on the Atom.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Yes we did.

    by TedKordLives

    Somebody mentioned that we should BAMF there next since there was some backpedaling going on. <P> Well, they didn't say BAMF, but you get my meaning.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST

    What ELSE are you going to do

    by Subtitles_Off

    &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>with animated hair????

  • June 10, 2010, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Somebody you didn't recognize?

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 10, 2010, 5:57 p.m. CST

    I just have feeling Ted

    by Continentalop

    Based on logic, circumstantial evidence, my own gut instincts, Zodiac signs and the entrails of a goat I read. <p> Actually, I did come up with an argument for using him which I believe Nolan and his brothers probably realize as well.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Okay, I just dropped a couple of Party Invites at the shelter...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    from when I lived in Vegas...I did the art...<p>Look for Cheeses Invites at the shelter and pick #3a as it is turned correctly...<p>These were always a hit and we had GREAT parties....

  • June 10, 2010, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Exactly Subs

    by Continentalop

    But like I said, I could see someone making the Medusa comparison. Of course he is saying they are ripping her off, which is BS. <P> BTW - The problem with fanboys is that everything is in the context of geek culture.

  • June 10, 2010, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Marvel Creates

    by Subtitles_Off

    Strong Women!<P> Powerful Men!<P> Buildings!<P> Sunshine!<P>Think about it. Marvel has had sunshine in &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>every one &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br>of its movies! They've been world-building sun right into their universe &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>all along!

  • June 10, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Subby, some random dude.

    by TedKordLives

    It's pretty close to the end of the INDYBack. He even put Pedalback in his subject line, if you wanna try and find it. Maybe you'd know the name.

  • June 10, 2010, 6:03 p.m. CST

    I don't believe that mole people exist-

    by TedKordLives

    ed until Stan Lee wrote them into Fantastic Four.

  • June 10, 2010, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Not random. finky!

    by Subtitles_Off

    finky's an O.P.<P>Comes and goes real stealthily though, so I can understand your not remembering.<P>Winky @ finky!

  • June 10, 2010, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Ok, yeah, some bells are ringing.

    by TedKordLives

    Finky Bells <P> Finky Bells <P> It's Finkmas Time <P> In the City

  • June 10, 2010, 6:07 p.m. CST

    finky actually pre-dates 'Lop and I by minutes

    by Subtitles_Off

    in The Origins of The Pedalbackers.

  • June 10, 2010, 6:08 p.m. CST

    It's Marvel's world.

    by Subtitles_Off

    They just let you exist in it.<P>But, they're staring to reconsider.

  • June 10, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Well, Ok, then.

    by TedKordLives

    He's cool by me.

  • June 10, 2010, 6:12 p.m. CST

    You know Peebers are just a big rip off...

    by Continentalop

    Of Marvel Comics the Defenders. <p> A "non-team" of individualistic "outsiders", an ever changing roster, members coming and going, wide range or personalities. <p> I rest my case.

  • June 10, 2010, 6:13 p.m. CST

    PeDefenders?

    by TedKordLives

  • June 10, 2010, 6:15 p.m. CST

    OK, DONE!

    by ScaryWaitress

    Had a lot of catching up to do. <P> I still didn't find that rant against Pedalback, but I'd be willing to bet it was McCain.

  • June 10, 2010, 6:30 p.m. CST

    That's because, Ess, I mis-directed you.

    by Subtitles_Off

    http://tinyurl.com/23nyuy8

  • June 10, 2010, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Apparently, Scaryness...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    According to WTWB, We are disrespectful for reviving dead threads...

  • June 10, 2010, 6:42 p.m. CST

    But only when they're the threads devoted

    by Subtitles_Off

    to his favorite French film-maker.<P>I sure hope he doesn't live in Chicago and is trying to get TOY STORY tickets.

  • June 10, 2010, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Who is WTWB?

    by D.Vader

  • June 10, 2010, 6:50 p.m. CST

    Vades, a poster that got upset with The Pedalback.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Follow that link I just gave to Ess.

  • June 10, 2010, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Watch_The_World_Burn, D....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Showed up last night or night before (I'm on vacation so I forget) but, he was all up in the Pedalback grill...but, he only posted once and left...

  • June 10, 2010, 6:57 p.m. CST

    You were very cordial, Cheeses.

    by TedKordLives

    But then again, he was fairly well-spoken himself. <P> Nevertheless, you defended the Pedalback with honor, sir.

  • June 10, 2010, 7 p.m. CST

    You have to love how he had to say "his fave FRENCH...

    by ScaryWaitress

    ...filmmaker." <P> Pretentious turd.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Teddy...I tried...But, the more I thought about it...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    BTW... Did you see my party invites at the shelter...?

  • June 10, 2010, 7:02 p.m. CST

    He wasn't even man enough to respond.

    by ScaryWaitress

    OK, enough about him.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:06 p.m. CST

    DINNER @ CHEZ SCARIE

    by ScaryWaitress

    Grilled pork ribs, rubbed with sea salt and herbs. Served with slightly charred red bell pepper and onion sliced thick, whole baby Bella mushrooms, and polenta. Paired with Capçanes Mas Donis, a blend of 85% Grenache and 15% Syrah, aged 8 months in oak, from Montsant in Spain. <P> Dessert is more wine, and at least one, if not two, episodes of Lost, Season 5.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:08 p.m. CST

    I am alos thorougly enjoying WHO TARD'D

    by ScaryWaitress

    The first appearance of the Daleks! Can't wait...

  • June 10, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Milk does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Waitress, you took the 10,000 with style. A literary flash of the boobs. A burst of lactation. And butterflies.<p> Perfect. Except for one thing. I WASN'T THERE!<p> Perhaps one last little squeeze of milk for me? Think of it as charity work...

  • June 10, 2010, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Cobes is the one I worry about with my Daughter...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Not D. Vader...

  • June 10, 2010, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Well, OK, Cobes...

    by ScaryWaitress

    [ScaryWaitress pulls her shirt open just a tiny little bit... a tiny, pale arc pauses in mid-air as milk becomes shining white wings, and a 3-inch-wide butterfly flutters off into the sunset.]

  • June 10, 2010, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Time to put the munchkin to bed.

    by ScaryWaitress

    Mommy needs a time out.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Sorry Cheeses, not yet.

    by TedKordLives

    My shit just got real. <P> So to speak.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Hey Ted or Cheeses or Subs

    by Continentalop

    (or anyone who is up to date on comics). <P> Me and Series7 were wondering about this at another site: when exactly did the Penguin go from one of Batman's biggest foes to being a third tier, joke character?

  • June 10, 2010, 7:20 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Waitress, you just put my munchkin to bed...<p> I'm picturing you with one of those feeding bras that you can just pop the cup open for speedy access. Pow - and then covered up again. Fastest boob in the west.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:27 p.m. CST

    'Lop...my guess...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    With Bergis Meredith on the 60' TV Show...

  • June 10, 2010, 7:28 p.m. CST

    Before my time, Conti.

    by TedKordLives

    That's about all I know. My Pre-Crisis DC knowledge is for shit, tho.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Depends on what you mean as third-tier joke, 'Lop.

    by Subtitles_Off

    When I stopped reading Batman comics regularly, say early 00's, they had him running a nightclub, as in the animated series. He was always one of the "players" among the underworld, mobster types. Then, for some reason I forget, Batman had something on him, and he became an informant.<P>I don't think that lasted long. I think he is now Gotham's "king-pin" of crime in absence of the last Black Mask, who was deposed as such and exposed as Jeremiah Arkham.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Cheeses, I don't think that is when it happened

    by Continentalop

    If anything Burgess brought the Penguin back to the forefront. He disappeared at the end of the Golden Age (along with Catwoman, Two-Face and even Riddler) until the TV show really brought back the idea of Arch-Criminals over aliens and super-villains. <p> Plus all of Bats foes where shown as jokes on that show (I mean the Joker and his own utility belt?), yet the other Big Four haven't suffered the fate of Penguin.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Hahaha!!!

    by Six Demon Bag

    Cobes just took his obsession to thenext level

  • June 10, 2010, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Is it just me, or

    by Subtitles_Off

    is the site acting real, real wonky again?

  • June 10, 2010, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Literally took 9 minutes for that "Penguin" post

    by Subtitles_Off

    to load.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Yeah, but Subs

    by Continentalop

    Here is a character now listed on the top 10 worse Batman villains list on a number of sites. Yes, he is one of the top Mobster villains in a universe that says mobsters were replaced by the "freaks." I mean would anyone in the DC comics or its fans rank him as being Batman's greatest villain right up there with the Joker? <P> The last three times I saw the Penguin was in a Gotham Central when Harvey Bullock is throwing him around (could you imagine Harvey doing that to the Joker or Two-Face) that graphic novel "Joker" where they show him as a wimpy bookie who gets bossed around by the Joker and Killer Croc, and Joker calls him Abner; and in Morrison's Batman & Robin where he is begging Batman to save him from the Red Hood and gets tangled up in his own umbrellas and is treated as a joke by Batman and Red Hood. <P>

  • June 10, 2010, 7:46 p.m. CST

    I'm getting some jitters from it, Subs...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    And, 'Lop...I have NEVER seen the Penguine done in a threatening manner like I know he could be portrayed...and umbrella gimmicks? Difficult to make frightening...<p>Mary Poppins had the same problem...

  • June 10, 2010, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Same problem here is Subs

    by Continentalop

    And it is only this site. <P> Fuck AICN!

  • June 10, 2010, 7:48 p.m. CST

    Who are the Big Four?

    by Subtitles_Off

    The Riddler has been on a year-long stint as an amnesiac and private eye and sometimes lackey for "The Sirens of Gotham," Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn and Selina Kyle.<P> The Joker has been absent for a year since Dick Grayson started wearing Daddy's uniform.<P>Selina Kyle had her heart removed by Hush, put on ice, and re-implanted into her chest by some fourth tier hero.<P>Of all of them, I think The Penguin's the &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>only &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br>Bat-character who &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>isn't &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br>a total joke, now.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Cheeses the Umbrella isn't supposed to be scary

    by Continentalop

    It is a metaphor for his character: something that appears harmless and innocuous really concealing something deadly and dangerous. Same thing with the Penguin, "the comical appearance hiding an evil genius." He isn't supposed to look dangerous or deadly, but he is.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:51 p.m. CST

    'Lop, I don't know what to say.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Batman comics have been ruined for me, utterly. Penguin hardly registers.<P>I'm not going to be interested in Batman "continuity," comics-wise, probably for the rest of my life.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:52 p.m. CST

    I call them the Big Four

    by Continentalop

    From the TV show. Riddler has also been treated badly over the yeas, I agree there. <P> But Joker can't a leave of absence because he is such a big villain. His presence is felt. And Catwoman has her own comic book so she can't be looked as a joke. <P> Scarecrow and Two-Face, besides Joker, are the only Golden Age villains given respect by modern writers and fans it seems (Hugo Strange wearing drag really annoyed me in Legends of the Dark Knight).

  • June 10, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Problem is...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    AICN is no longer headquartered in Austin...Hasn't been for almost a decade...<p>They moved off-shore to the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, to avoid taxes and to provide harry a safe place to float.....<p>But all this undersea oil is clogging the Intertube nets choking them off like David Carradine...

  • June 10, 2010, 7:54 p.m. CST

    I'm the same way Subs

    by Continentalop

    But I am just curious when Penguin "jumped the shark" as a villain fans loved and made people want to buy the comic book. <P> Of course the cartoon versions never really helped (BTAS was hampered by Burton, I admit).

  • June 10, 2010, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Last good Penguin story I read, was around the same

    by Subtitles_Off

    time as the last good Riddler story I read - some time around the mid-90s. I'm pretty certain Chuck Dixon wrote them both. It had Penguin getting away with a crime spree by simply doing it during the day. He only facked up when he targeted something or other inside some big warehouse or something - mind's not tight on the details - where Batman could control the lights.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Ha Cheeses

    by Continentalop

    But now I got the image of David Carradine in my head again. *brrr*

  • June 10, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Ugh. Scarecrow is now a Green Lantern villain.

    by Subtitles_Off

    He runs around with a yellow ring that can manifest fear powers.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Better that than the Scarebeast

    by Continentalop

    When I heard about that I could only shake my head. Ugh.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST

    And, Two-Face was last seen running around

    by Subtitles_Off

    in Batman's multi-colored "rainbow" suit from the silver age, that Morrison has reconfigured out of a homeless bum's rags which Bruce Wayne stitched together when he was "crazy" before he "died."

  • June 10, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Scarecrow is a Yellow Sinestro Corp Member?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    HHHHAAAA!!!<p>Why isn't the Penguin one of the Birds of Prey?

  • June 10, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Does he still have that ring?

    by TedKordLives

    I thought he had to give it back after the big hoo-hah.

  • June 10, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Two-Face is the Batman of Zur-en-arrh?

    by Continentalop

    Why don't they just have become the new Kite-Man?

  • June 10, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST

    The whole thing "jumped the shark," truth be told,

    by Subtitles_Off

    around the whole Earthquake thing.<P>The whole thing is a joke, now. And the kids are eating it up. It's the second hottest thing DC has got going, after the Green Lantern stuff.

  • June 10, 2010, 8 p.m. CST

    Batman foes and the rest of the DC universe don't really mix

    by Continentalop

    Actually Batman doesn't really mix well with them either. Different genres. <P> That is one thing I agree with Nolan - Batman shouldn't be connected to a larger DC universe.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Nope, Teddy. He stayed a yellow lantern.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Just like Luthor stayed an orange one.<P>Now, when they have "Lex Luthor" running around in a Superman-related comic, it is a robotic duplicate.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:02 p.m. CST

    I'm still trying to figure out when DC became Marvel comics

    by Continentalop

    And when did Marvel become bad DC comics?

  • June 10, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Aw, this is depressing...

    by TedKordLives

    I may have to start writing again just so people will have something cool to read.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST

    What's funny is, I always kind of thought the Penguin was...

    by ScaryWaitress

    ...pretty lame. I'm not asking for a comic to be realistic, but a villain of any stripe posing as a roly-poly bird, complete with top hat and monocle... maybe it worked when top hats and monocles were all the rage, but in our modern era he just looks like a goofy throwback. That character always struck me as one of those quaint old-timey things.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST

    'Lop, it was the day Tony and Bruce started throwing ...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    cross company Car-key and fish-bowl parties...

  • June 10, 2010, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Agreed, 'Lop. And that was always the case when I

    by Subtitles_Off

    read comics: Batman did not play well with others.<P>But now, DC wants a Universe like Marvel's, all interconnected. To pull it off, they sent Bruce Wayne into a giant time vagina. When he comes back, he is going to be a "villain." A year after that, his "villainy" will be 180'ed into a "necessary evil" (think Marvel's "Civil War"). A year or so after that all the current DC Comics continuity will be explained to be an alternate Earth, and the Earth One series of books will be folded into a "true" status quo.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Penguin hasn't had the top hat forever.

    by Subtitles_Off

    He's always kept the monocle, though.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Cheeses.

    by TedKordLives

    Who are the bad-guy equivalents of Tony and Bruce when it comes to partying down?

  • June 10, 2010, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Or anyone, even.

    by TedKordLives

    Since all the comics nerds are in the house. <P> And of course, there is no malice intended there.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Thing is, Ess, Gotham City has always had

    by Subtitles_Off

    that old-timey vibe. Until it was turned into Chicago for a movie.<P>You know, dirigibles in the skies and mobsters aren't exactly "current."<P>For me, I never looked at Gotham City to be analogous to New York City. So, I guess, the old-fashioned-ness of concepts like The Penguin never really stuck out to me as out-of-place.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Scary, I agree and disagree

    by Continentalop

    Yeah, the top hats and monocles and wearing a tux all the time is out of date nowadays, but it was what a fashionable gentleman would wear during the 30s & 40s when he first appeared. <p> My thing has always been why does he have to "always" wear it? I'm not saying throw it out because it is an iconic look and makes him instantly recognizable (Sherlock Holmes, Tarzan, Robin Hood and Emma Peel all have iconic wardrobes) but sometimes wear other things like another iconic looking character, James Bond. Bond isn't always in a tux (his iconic look) but he appears at least once or twice a movie. Samething with Penguin. <P> Plus, is a top hat, tux and monocle that weird compared to a question mark costume, a cryo-suit, or dressing up like a clown or a cat?

  • June 10, 2010, 8:17 p.m. CST

    The party down villains?

    by Continentalop

    I think the Flash's Rogue Gallery like to party, but I don't think they are quite up there with Bruce and Tony.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:18 p.m. CST

    I can't remember a time when The Riddler

    by Subtitles_Off

    was in the question mark costume. He's always been in a green suit, for years and years, carrying a question mark-shaped cane, wearing a derby. Only his accessories are ?-shaped. His spandex costume went out, and stayed out, some time in The 70s.<P>Of course, remember, I've got a dodgy memory.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Yeah, but Subs

    by Continentalop

    Is a suit covered by question marks any weirder than a tux and a monocle? <P> Personally though I agree with Scary. I think they should change Penguin's appearance because he was never meant to stand out that much, but than I admit you are tinkering with an iconic look which is dangerous.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Sorry I meant a green suite

    by Continentalop

    with a question mark cane and derby. I don't know why I said question mark suit again.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST

    True, Conti.

    by TedKordLives

    They're more insular. <P> They're more like frat partiers. You COULD go party with them, but you know things could go south real quick.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:23 p.m. CST

    I will say this

    by Continentalop

    Ventriloquist and Scarface best villain added to his rogues gallery in the last 40 years.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Mirror Master ALWAYS has the coke...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    It's in his NAME....

  • June 10, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Yeah Ted

    by Continentalop

    I imagine them like a frat. You not part of the group your going to be taken advantage of once you pass out. <P> Your going to wake up naked, tied to a tree with shaved eye brows, make up, and icicles on your willy. <P> PLus I won't even mention where the boomerang is.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST

    That's actually true.

    by TedKordLives

    I couldn't believe when they added that little wrinkle to his character. I guess it IS a hell of a drug.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Cheeses, I think one of the dumbest things

    by Continentalop

    Was when they made Captain Cold very anti-drug. <P> Captain Cold isn't carrying snow? BS.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST

    See, 'Lop, I knew someone would say that...

    by ScaryWaitress

    and compared to other things in Gotham, no, the Penguin isn't so weird... I just always thought he felt out of place because he was obviously such an over-the-top caricature of a fat cat or a mobster, which just didn't feel like something that would need Batman to deal with. I guess I'm having a hard time putting it into words... the Penguin isn't scary, or interesting, I guess. Just a lame duck villain, if you'll pardon the pun. <P> And Subs... I get that Gotham had the old-timey vibe, I just felt I guess that Penguin had too much of the real world in him compared to everything else. He was one of those warm-n-fuzzy villains... you know, for kids. Just kind of dumb... or at least, had a shelf-life, unlike a lot of the other characters.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Then, there's the Hulk foe...Speed Demon...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    He's a tweaker...

  • June 10, 2010, 8:28 p.m. CST

    I think in Marvel

    by Continentalop

    The biggest party people are the thugs: Absorbing Man, Wrecking Crew, Sandman, Sabretooth. All hard drinking types. <P> You definitely don't want to hang out with them when they get drunk, unless you want a crowbar up your ass.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:29 p.m. CST

    BWAH-HAHHA-HJAHAHHAHAA!

    by TedKordLives

  • June 10, 2010, 8:30 p.m. CST

    Sorry.

    by TedKordLives

    Took me awhile to get to the 'boomerang' remark. The site IS glitchy today...

  • June 10, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST

    No, I agree with you to a degree Scary

    by Continentalop

    See my second post. I think his costume both helps him (it is iconic) and hurts him. <P> I think the problem with Penguin is that he isn't scary looking, which is the point of the character, but you can't show how evil or dangerous he really is in a cartoon where most people encounter him. <P> Plus, I think in many ways he is to sophisticated of villain. He is a villain who the readers have to understand is trying to look silly and weak, and using that to his advantage. I think modern comic writers and readers have completely forgotten that angle and just made him this whacky bird character.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Cheeses

    by TedKordLives

    I think you mean Speedfreek. But as he's only popped up maybe three times, I can forgive you.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:33 p.m. CST

    You know what is funny?

    by Continentalop

    A sidekick nicknamed Speedy is a heroin addict instead of a meth head. Think about that.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:34 p.m. CST

    'Lop, RE: Scarface - AMEN!

    by Subtitles_Off

    But, The Ventriloquist has been dead for years.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Deadshot & Deadpool?

    by TedKordLives

    I could see those guys sharing a few brews. Eventually (or prolly sooner), Wade would piss Floyd off and he'd shoot the shit out of him. Only to find out that he'd have to do it again...and again...and again...

  • June 10, 2010, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Subs that is why I said

    by Continentalop

    Scarface AND the Ventriloquist. Great duo. <P> You know he'll be back after they have milked the new one long enough. <P> Scarecrow should get his own little dummy - Scareface.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST

    I can see that, Ess. I think it's in the name Penguin.

    by Subtitles_Off

    That's another thing, modern comics, no one calls him that except as a derrogatory insult. He's Oswald Cobblepot.<P>Another thing about his chubby, "goofiness" that I don't mind is its contrast to Batman.<P>With Penguin - exactly because he is a bit of a schlub - it's brains vs. brawns.<P>Unfortunately, they've facked that up, too. Despite his chub, Penguin's been given a martial arts fighting style, so he can now hold his own with batman without all the hired thugs bodyguards he used to keep in his posse. DUMB!

  • June 10, 2010, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Speedy should have been Kid Flash's name...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 8:40 p.m. CST

    The "new" one is dead, too.

    by Subtitles_Off

    There is no Ventriloquist.<P>Scarface currently resides in one of Batman's trophy cases.<P>Arnold Wesker returned, briefly, as a Black Lantern zombie with a hundred scary puppets.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Why did you have to remind me about the Penguin's

    by Continentalop

    Martial Arts prowess? Fuck. The only thing he might know is fencing and La Canne de Combat to use with his Umbrellas. But the guy is not a fighter. <P> Dick Cheney is a pussy in a fist fight, and he could have any of us killed. THAT is how they should do the Penguin!

  • June 10, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST

    I always pictured...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Robin, Kid Flash, Mal and Aqualad fuckin' with Roy...<p>"So, after your last date, Wonder Girl told us why they REALLY call you Speedy..."

  • June 10, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Why DO I know all these things?

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 10, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Subs, RE: Arnold Wesker as a Black Lantern

    by Continentalop

    Man, it just gets crappier doesn't it?

  • June 10, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Cheeses, I don't think Aqualad could fuck with anyone

    by Continentalop

    He is such a pity member of the Teen Titans. <P> "Look guys, I know Aqualad is a loser, but his mentor is friends with our mentors so they are forcing us to let him on the team."

  • June 10, 2010, 8:45 p.m. CST

    I want Anthony Hopkins to play The Penguin

    by ColonelFatheart

    and I want at least one scene where he and Caine have an acting showdown.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:45 p.m. CST

    I'm sorry, the Penguin knows kung fu?!?!?!?!

    by ScaryWaitress

    What. The. Fuck. <P> So, so deeply lame. <P> OK, time to go pay homage to the flickering flatscreen, and offer my brain unto it in obeisance.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:46 p.m. CST

    It does.

    by TedKordLives

    Swirling vortex of suck. WHY did I buy Blackest Night?

  • June 10, 2010, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Because Ted

    by Continentalop

    You were holding out false hope that Ted Kord would be brought back in that series.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST

    HHHHAAAAA!!!! Colnelman....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Later Scary.

    by TedKordLives

  • June 10, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST

    That's all I want out of the next BATMAN

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Bye Scary

    by Continentalop

    Light a candle in honor of flatscreen.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, that's right.

    by TedKordLives

    Fool me eight times, shame on me.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Verne Troy for Penguine?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 8:50 p.m. CST

    I want Ace the Bat-Hound Colon-El

    by Continentalop

    And the Bat-Men of Many Nations.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Ted they will next do a comic called "Ted Kord Lives"

    by Continentalop

    And at the end of it Kord is still dead and Batman tells Booster "Ted Kord Lives. In our hearts." <P> And you'll be able to hear your scream from space once you finish it.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:57 p.m. CST

    I'm telling you,

    by Subtitles_Off

    Ted Kord will be back in the Blue Beetle suit before Bruce Wayne is once more THE Batman of Gotham City.<P>Of course, I don't know, and I don't mean any cruelness to teddy by speculating, but - DAMN - it has gotten to be that the best characters in the DCU are the &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>dead &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br>ones, because they can't be fukked with.

  • June 10, 2010, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Ted Kord lives in all of our hearts!

    by ColonelFatheart

    Kord Blood 4 life!

  • June 10, 2010, 9 p.m. CST

    i missed Ess leaving.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Goodnight, Ess.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Subs, you just said the truest thing

    by Continentalop

    I wish Tony Stark was dead. And I wish Wolverine died two decades ago.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Hiya, Col.!

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 10, 2010, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Well I am out of here

    by Continentalop

    See you later lads. <P> Fuck Lucas!

  • June 10, 2010, 9:10 p.m. CST

    The worst thing DC has done recently is to Green Arrow.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Slaughter his toddler grand-daughter. Rip his old sidekick's arm off. Blow up his city. Turn him into a murderer, and send him off to live in a "mysterious" forest with a cult of Tea-Baggers.<P>The hippie, liberal of The DCU is now a reactionary psycho.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:11 p.m. CST

    'Night, 'Lop.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I don't wanna fukk him. You fukk him!<P>Hey, let's get Mikey!<P>He'll fukk him. He'll fukk anything!

  • June 10, 2010, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Good talk, Lop.

    by TedKordLives

    As per usual. <P> Subby, I'd put money on that wager, just so you know.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:16 p.m. CST

    Kord Blood!

    by TedKordLives

    Running thru my veins!

  • June 10, 2010, 9:18 p.m. CST

    I don't have any money, Teddy.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Otherwise, we'd be on.<P>Why do you think he's the one that will stay dead? Is it partially that wishful thinking 'Lop and I mentioned?

  • June 10, 2010, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Hiya, Subs!

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Have Sir Michael and Sir Anthony never been in

    by Subtitles_Off

    anything together?<P>Really?

  • June 10, 2010, 9:20 p.m. CST

    The Colonel reappears...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 9:20 p.m. CST

    They were in A BRIDGE TOO FAR

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Subby

    by TedKordLives

    My buddy Starman got that Justice League mini where that GA shit went down, only because he's (obviously) a James Robinson fan. Gorgeous art but terrible writing. Laughable, even. <P> And because I always liked the idea of Prometheus, I got the one-shot that explained why he got so second-rate so fast. And it was GOOD. I was excited to see what Prommy would do. <P> Oh. <P> Oh. <P> And he's dead. <P> Awesome. <P> Thanks again, DC!

  • June 10, 2010, 9:21 p.m. CST

    I did an IMDB search.

    by ColonelFatheart

    I don't know if they shared any screen time. <p>The next BATMAN could be even more like a limey HEAT, and Batman himself can be upstaged yet again.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Wait, he never left...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    'Lop's 'FUCK LUCAS' has me confused with 'Keep fucking that chicken!!!'

  • June 10, 2010, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Weren't they In a bridge too far??

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 10, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST

    I know I said I left BUT...

    by Continentalop

    ...I just wanted to say, "here is the Penguin!" <p> http://tinyurl.com/yfdn42e

  • June 10, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Well, Subby.

    by TedKordLives

    I truly believe that there is an editorial (at least) mandate to keep Ted in the ground until the new Beetle suddenly becomes the new Wolverine or something. They're pushing him as hard as I've ever seen a comic company push a new character. Why? Because, for whatever reason, they really don't want Ted Kord running around the DCU. <P> I had heard that the rights they had to Ted were only for comics, and not for any other medium. I had assumed that was the reason. But then I heard that whatever deal they had expired the year after he died. Which WOULD make him a viable character again. But they haven't brought him back, have they?

  • June 10, 2010, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Hey Cheeses, I tell people to fuck the chickens

    by ColonelFatheart

    around here. <p>I'm the Colonel.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:26 p.m. CST

    That coulda been clearer, probably.

    by TedKordLives

    But I'm trying to get out of here.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Of course! EVERYONE was in A BRIDGE TOO FAR.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 10, 2010, 9:29 p.m. CST

    G'night, Teddy.

    by Subtitles_Off

    We can discuss it later.<P>You know where you can find me.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Ah, if only, 'Lop.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Never in a Nolanverse movie.<P>Gotta skew young, youknow.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Oh, I'm not done yet.

    by TedKordLives

    Just flying real fast. <P> Lady Gaga tells J-14 Magazine that the kids used to tease her, calling her 'Big Boobs McGee'. <P> Cheeses, take it away...

  • June 10, 2010, 9:34 p.m. CST

    I think a play on CITIZEN KANE for Batman

    by Subtitles_Off

    characters, is in order.<P>Bruce Wayne has died. Some journalist has a theory he may have been Batman. This journalist interviews all the old villains - some reformed, some in an institution, all of them shadows of their former selves - and Wayne's widow, Selina. Somehow involve some old mystery that can be told in flashback.<P>Cast with actors of the caliber of Hoskins, Hopkins, Jeremy Irons. <P>I'd dig it.<P>Never in a million years.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:35 p.m. CST

    'Big Boobs McGee'. ...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Far better than Flat-chested Fanny, or Mosquito-bites Monique...

  • June 10, 2010, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Ah fuck. I gotta run again.

    by ColonelFatheart

    See you classy gents tomorra!

  • June 10, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Oops, no I don't!

    by ColonelFatheart

    I'm stickin' around for time bein'!

  • June 10, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Subby.

    by TedKordLives

    Right after I direct Kord:The Man And His Dream. <P> Too obscure?

  • June 10, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Keep fucking that Lucas!

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 10, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST

    C'mon Cheeses

    by TedKordLives

    I was setting ya up for a banana hammock joke there...

  • June 10, 2010, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Either Colonelman's tryin'to loose some weight...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    with all that runnin'...or else he's got a bad case of the Water Shits...

  • June 10, 2010, 9:41 p.m. CST

    Banana hammock???? HHHHAAAAA!!!!!

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Usually my week grinds to its bitter end, but I

    by ColonelFatheart

    must say that this week went pretty fast.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:47 p.m. CST

    No water shits.

    by ColonelFatheart

    Just unsure of what my DF was going to do. Usually she usurps my seat at the computer desk at this time, but she'd rather play Civilization on the Xbox.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Hanana Bammock.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 10, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST

    See? That coulda been me HHAAing!

    by TedKordLives

    Just kidding with ya, pally. <P> Ok, now I'm out. Going to the late night comic book store to get my weekly dose. Sigh.<P>Later Gang!

  • June 10, 2010, 9:49 p.m. CST

    HA! The PR people are in over-drive to convince you

    by Subtitles_Off

    you can still eat Gulf seafood.

  • June 10, 2010, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Night, Ted.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 10, 2010, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Colonel, take it from me...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Get her her own computer, preferably a laptop. Then you can sit side by side, watch tv and play on the computers together...

  • June 10, 2010, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Maybe I'll get her one for the wedding.

    by ColonelFatheart

    But that's a while from now. But good idea, Cheeses. <p>Night, Teddy!

  • June 10, 2010, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Okay, now I'm REALLY GOING.

    by ColonelFatheart

    Good night, Peebs.

  • June 10, 2010, 10:10 p.m. CST

    G'night, Col!

    by Subtitles_Off

    See ya in a minute!

  • June 10, 2010, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Later Teddy, Colonel...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 10, 2010, 10:48 p.m. CST

    When do we get another trailer for Tron?

    by RPLocke

    They should be doing the effects right now right?

  • June 10, 2010, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Cheeses,

    by Subtitles_Off

    If you're still out there. <P>Finally finished your Party Jam. Archives, youknowwhere. Check it out and lemme know what you think.

  • June 10, 2010, 11:58 p.m. CST

    Subs..I ge the 'does not exist' sign...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 12:23 a.m. CST

    Perfect, Subs..

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Thanks...

  • June 11, 2010, 12:40 a.m. CST

    I added to the caption

    by Subtitles_Off

    for Bruce Wayne. Check it out when you get a chance.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:45 a.m. CST

    It's PERFECT, Subs...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Thanks for putting it up...I hope everybody will check it out...

  • June 11, 2010, 2:13 a.m. CST

    Killers...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Demi Moore's adolecent husband and a super hot blonde...<p>Why?<p>Is Ashton Planning a Brad Pitt like escape from a horrific marriage?<p>Is that why he signed on for a remake of Mr. and Mrs. Smith...<p>And, Tom Cruise is re-making it next month with Ashton's ex...WTF???

  • June 11, 2010, 2:21 a.m. CST

    Probably not a big surprise...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    But, I will probably go see The A-Team this weekend...I never followed the series, but, fuck, the tailer clips look outrageous...<p>Sorry, all you Cinemanistas ...

  • June 11, 2010, 2:30 a.m. CST

    Just for perspective...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I just cracked open beer #22 since whenever I started today...<p>(Weird how I spell so much better after 16 or so beers...)

  • June 11, 2010, 2:31 a.m. CST

    Late night TV...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Larry King's wife attempted suicide...<p>Why wouldn't she?

  • June 11, 2010, 2:35 a.m. CST

    The Situation is somebody's NAME?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Okay, did I miss something? I'm watching E-News...

  • June 11, 2010, 2:41 a.m. CST

    Jessica Beil?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    http://www.realbollywood.com/news/up_images/11113339.jpg<p>..Is WAY hot...but, I thought they said Jessica Alba...

  • June 11, 2010, 2:45 a.m. CST

    More HOT Beil...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    http://www.topnews.in/light/files/jessica-biel_0.jpg

  • June 11, 2010, 2:50 a.m. CST

    Ear Wax is gross.

    by RPLocke

  • June 11, 2010, 2:58 a.m. CST

    Ear wax is an important protective build-up..

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    keeps you from hearing stuff you don't wanna hear...

  • June 11, 2010, 3:02 a.m. CST

    http://www.realbollywood.com/news/up_images/11113339.jpg

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 3:03 a.m. CST

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    http://www.topnews.in/light/files/Jessica_Biel.jpg

  • June 11, 2010, 3:05 a.m. CST

    Sorry, just looking for that perfect image...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 3:15 a.m. CST

    I wouldn't f*** Jessica Biel with a stolen dick

    by Continentalop

    Because I would prefer using my own.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:41 a.m. CST

    HHHAAA!!! Lop...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Me either...too...

  • June 11, 2010, 3:44 a.m. CST

    All right...I'm down for the count...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Nytol...

  • June 11, 2010, 3:46 a.m. CST

    G'night Cheeses

    by Continentalop

    That leaves this place all to myself, which means...

  • June 11, 2010, 3:48 a.m. CST

    THE ASS-KICKERS SQUAD, THE LOST YEARS: 1959

    by Continentalop

    Retired college professor Indiana Jones, accompanied by his body guard Bud White, invites eccentric inventor Doc Brown and his new assistant, Arthur “the Fonz” Fonzarelli, to join the United States government’s most top secret project: the recently recommissioned Ass-Kickers Squad. Travelling to a secret base outside of Roswell New Mexico (where Fonzie meets four teenagers named Max, Isabel, Michael, and Tess at a local dinner) the pair are introduced to their teammates: an incredible shrinking man, a 50 foot woman, a tamed amphibious creature from the Amazon, and a former teenage (now twenty-something) werewolf. The motley crew is assigned to investigate the town of Mayberry, North Carolina, where the citizens are being replace by alien pod people under the control of telepathic, disembodied brain of millionaire megalomaniac turned Communist agent W.H. Donovan.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:40 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    I'd like to see Indy and The Fonz together. They could share a scene like the 'bragging about your scars' bit in JAWS where they try and one-up each other about who's got the best scuffs and scratches on their leather jackets.<p> "Boulder shmoulder. You think i'm impressed? This one here. This one right on the elbow. I got that when I jumped the Shark back in '79..." Fonz.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:45 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Then after getting pissed they smoke a doobie and come to the profound realization that their sidekicks Sallah and Al the diner owner are actually the same archetype.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:55 a.m. CST

    I will see the A-Team

    by MacReady452

    it is ingrained in my DNA. I really don't have a choice.<p>I'm not seeing or hearing great things but I don't have a choice. Fortunately I have free passes to the theater so I won't have to shell out my own money for the farce.

  • June 11, 2010, 6:04 a.m. CST

    I was just looking at the front page and thought

    by MacReady452

    Peter Dinklage for..............<p>The Penguin <p>He is a great actor and shorter than Danny Devito. I think he would tear it up and actually be pretty menacing. He aint no Burgess but...who is.

  • June 11, 2010, 6:07 a.m. CST

    Cobes

    by MacReady452

    then they both realize they are pussy cousins cause Indy fucked Pinky Tuscadero in a Milwaukee Bar on one wild night.

  • June 11, 2010, 6:32 a.m. CST

    Mac, I'm still going with Bob Hoskins

    by Continentalop

    http://tinyurl.com/2w8co2k <p> http://tinyurl.com/2g8olk9 <P> http://tinyurl.com/3xjn9ex <p> compared to this: <P> http://tinyurl.com/2cbe3us

  • June 11, 2010, 6:38 a.m. CST

    Yeah Friday

    by MacReady452

    I gotta work a little OT today so I'm at work later than normal on a fucking Friday but....<p>Pro Am Fishing derby this weekend. My Pops is a charter captain on Lake Ontario so hopefully we can land a winner.

  • June 11, 2010, 6:46 a.m. CST

    I like Hoskins 'Lop

    by MacReady452

    good choice.<p>I'm not so familiar with the character outside of the Burgess/Devito incarnations.<p>Your vision portrays him with more sophistication than comedy or freakishness as the other two versions. Without a wink of humor or freakishness I don't see how the character can work at all.<p>What are your thoughts on the characterization and motives of a "Nolan" Penguin?

  • June 11, 2010, 6:48 a.m. CST

    I would totally back Bob hoskins as penguin

    by Six Demon Bag

    He was an animal in long good friday

  • June 11, 2010, 7:03 a.m. CST

    i liked him as Khrushchev

    by MacReady452

    in Enemy at the Gates

  • June 11, 2010, 7:40 a.m. CST

    LONG GOOD FRIDAY was fucking great.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 7:43 a.m. CST

    I must say the ridiculous A-TEAM trailers

    by ColonelFatheart

    have won me over somewhat. <p>I grew up on the A-Team show. Like Mac, it is part of my DNA. My grandpa and I used to watch that, Remington Steele and Riptipde together. Grandpa loved Remington Steel especially, and he loved the Bond movies. Shame he never lived to see Brosnan as Bond. I think he would have gotten a kick out of it, while still preferring Connery, of course.

  • June 11, 2010, 7:44 a.m. CST

    never seen Long Good Friday

    by MacReady452

    guess I'll have to put it on my list.<p>Thats why this place is cool. It is educational.

  • June 11, 2010, 7:46 a.m. CST

    You'll love it, Mac. It's also got Helen Mirren

    by ColonelFatheart

    bursting at the seams of struggling top after another. And the score is really fucking all-out cool.

  • June 11, 2010, 7:47 a.m. CST

    I think it was Pauline Kael, who, after seeing THE LONG

    by ColonelFatheart

    GOOD FRIDAY, described Hoskins as a "walking testicle," or something to that effect.

  • June 11, 2010, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Friday does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    THE LONG GOOD FRIDAY is totally worth a watch. Not only Hoskins but also features Helen Mirren, Pierce Brosnan, and Belloq from RADIERS. The final scene is a killer.<p> I'm afraid Hoskins himself would be too old now to play Penguin tho. If Nolan does use the character (highly doubtful one suspects) then perhaps actors like Paul Giamatti or William Hurt? (who played memorable mob bosses in SHOOT 'EM UP and HISTORY OF VIOLENCE respectively).

  • June 11, 2010, 7:51 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Or what about the bad guy from SNATCH who wore the thick lensed glasses and described himself as 'an orrible cunt'? That motherfucker was diminuitive and yet scary as all hell.

  • June 11, 2010, 7:53 a.m. CST

    If Nolan goes younger with Penguin, he needs

    by ColonelFatheart

    to use Philip Seymour Hoffman. <p>On this there can be no debate.

  • June 11, 2010, 7:55 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Col, he's a good actor but is the world ready for a ginger Penguin?

  • June 11, 2010, 8:02 a.m. CST

    Nothing a little Grecian formula can't help, Cobes.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Jessica Biel

    by Stabby

    Did you guys see Rules of the Game and that totally unrealistic scene where James Van Derbeek is totally bored while having sex with a blonde teenage Jessica Biel? That scene seriously pissed me off!

  • June 11, 2010, 8:05 a.m. CST

    i still think HOSKINS can pull it off..

    by Six Demon Bag

    if they can have tom wilkenson play a baddie and pull it off..and hoskins was also menacing lately in HOLLYWOODLAND..they should go for that kind of penguin..

  • June 11, 2010, 8:06 a.m. CST

    That was the point, Stabby!

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 8:06 a.m. CST

    eddie marsan from HANCOCK

    by Six Demon Bag

    and SHERLOCK HOLMES and 21 GRAMS would be pretty gruff too.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:08 a.m. CST

    renoir worked with biel??

    by Six Demon Bag

    i think you mean RULES OF ATTRACTION..with the sublime shannon sossamyn..<P>thus ends my friday of alliteration

  • June 11, 2010, 8:17 a.m. CST

    what will happen is that Hoskins will play

    by MacReady452

    Oswald Chesterfield Cobblepot: Billionaire asshole with an affinity for the cold weather birdies.<p>As long as he wears a top hat and a monocle at least once then I will be satisfied.<p>I still say Dinklage. I just want more midgets on film. They idea of Batman struggling with a midget makes me smile.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:19 a.m. CST

    *The idea........

    by MacReady452

    what a fucking dunce I am.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Yeah, Col.

    by Stabby

    I guess it's no worse than Shannyn Sossamon waking up to find someone not only raping her, but taking her virginity and filming it and her just letting it happen pretending to be asleep. Total B.S. Oh and it's Rules of Attraction. Sorry.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:21 a.m. CST

    I think Hoskins' age isn't a factor

    by Continentalop

    First off, the Penguin isn't a physical threat. He is an intellectual challenge for Batman, so you don't really need a younger man. <P> Secondly, her is a man from a different era, representing different values. The Joker was nihilism and anarchy, the Penguin is order and manipulation. Hoskins' experience and age wouldn't be a weakness - those are his strengths. <P> And finally, you have Morgan Freeman and Michael Caine already in the series, and Hoskins is younger than both of them. <p> If executives are worried about the youth demographic, cast a hot, young Catwoman in the film as well.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Bob Hoskins would make an awesome Penguin

    by Stabby

    Responding to Cotinentalop's Penguin lament from yesterday.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:22 a.m. CST

    True Blood season 3

    by MacReady452

    everybody ready? Sookie's knockers better be on full display. I think Eric will prolly give her a good ramming with his Vampire dong in the first ep.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:24 a.m. CST

    John McCain just tweeted a Batman bombshell

    by Stabby

    Christopher Nolan is casting The Situation as The Penguin.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Here's my pick to play next Catwoman:

    by Stabby

    http://tabrettbethell.com/

  • June 11, 2010, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Hell yeah. The Penguin should present

    by ColonelFatheart

    Batman with a rival whose philosophical motivations unite his legitimate enterprise, political and criminal. I can see Nolan's idea of the character: His image and principles are consistent across the board, which is a contrast to Wayne/Batman's fractured existence. The Penguin represents old-fashioned unity of purpose, while Batman represents postmodern fragmentation.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:29 a.m. CST

    Here's my pick to play Wonder Woman:

    by Stabby

    http://herblueeyes.com/

  • June 11, 2010, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Fired up for True Blood, Mac.

    by ColonelFatheart

    I have a TV critic friend who's seen the first three episodes. She says it's completely wacked out, a little overstuffed, but never dull.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Mac, the Penguin would definitely have a wink and a smile

    by Continentalop

    He would be a big grinning, overly friendly and polite individual. Think Sydney Greenstreet in the Maltese Falcon. <P> Of course, there would come a moment when suddenly the veneer would drop ever so slightly and his eyes would sparkle with pure malevolence and then the audience would know that he isn't a friendly, funny looking chap. Oh no, you would realize that he is just acting, pretending all along. That he is truthfully utterly ruthless.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Hasn't Nolan said no Penguin in Nolanverse?

    by Stabby

  • June 11, 2010, 8:32 a.m. CST

    That should read:

    by ColonelFatheart

    *legitimate enterprise, political and criminal GOALS*

  • June 11, 2010, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Okay, gotta go.

    by ColonelFatheart

    Type at y'all later.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:34 a.m. CST

    and then getting vomited on..

    by Six Demon Bag

    opening scene baby..

  • June 11, 2010, 8:39 a.m. CST

    i want the penguin to be..

    by Six Demon Bag

    a guy to own snuff films just cause he can..that kind of evil

  • June 11, 2010, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Good point Colonel, but I actually see the Penguin

    by Continentalop

    "Getting" Bruce Wayne, unlike any other villain. The Penguin's appearance is a complete fraud. It is a cover identity so people underestimate him and never assume he is a criminal. He is like Bruce Wayne's playboy image, where Bruce Wayne came up with that identity to actively throw people off of his track, but the Penguin never drops the veneer. <P> I can see the Penguin and Bruce Wayne talking at a function, like the beginning of the Opera season or a party in honor of Wayne Enterprise Stockholders (which Penguin is one) and Penguin suddenly notices Bruce Wayne's eyes wander and sees him scrutinize and study some gangster that just entered from across the room. The Penguin would stop talking and takes a deep look at Wayne and notice that for a lazy man he is in shape and seems to have a keen intellect that he tries to hide. <p> "People underestimate you, don't they Mr. Wayne?" <P> Bruce would of course try to bluff his way out of it, but Penguin would tell him he is an expert at wearing "masks" and can see through them right away. He knows when people are putting on an act. <P> Of course, that doesn't mean the Penguin is infallible. When him and his cronies leave the party and one of them makes a crack about how dumb and lazy Wayne is, Penguin would correct them. <P> "On the contrary, I think Mr. Wayne is a man we can do business with." Penguin could only imagine that Wayne is putting on an act for the same reasons he does - for purely selfish gain.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:44 a.m. CST

    See you Colon-El

    by Continentalop

  • June 11, 2010, 8:47 a.m. CST

    things ive learned from ONE other website

    by Six Demon Bag

    not named AICN<P>who the director is for CLASH 2<P>del toro rebooting van helsing<P>who the director of neuromancer is<P>nolte and jen garner in arthur reboot<P>rush back for PIRATES 4<P>last twilight film will defintely be 2films<P>more stuff about TRANSFORMERS 3..it will be 3D<P>battleship is coming sooner than you think<P>mean girls 2 greenlit<P>batman 3 to start shooting 3/2011<P>trailer for new stuio ghibi film<P>RED DAWN delayed forever?<P>that VOLTRON film is still happening<P>the riddler and lizard rumors

  • June 11, 2010, 8:49 a.m. CST

    6DB, Mean Girls 2 greenlit?

    by Continentalop

    Is Lindsey in them?

  • June 11, 2010, 8:49 a.m. CST

    but HEY i can read about james horner flying!

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Conti

    by Stabby

    I may have asked this before, but have you ever seen Felicia's Journey? Bob Hoskins is amazing in this film as one of the creepiest psychos ever.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Conti, love it!

    by ColonelFatheart

    That consistency I mentioned above could play into what you're saying, though. <p>Maybe model The Penguin on Warren Buffett? <p>All right. Really, gotta go .

  • June 11, 2010, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Yes I have Stabby

    by Continentalop

    That is why I thought of him being the Penguin. I was talking to someone yesterday about that movie and that image of him popped in my head.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Please tell me Pirates 4 is a prequel

    by Stabby

    about Rush's Barbossa and his history with Sparrow.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:53 a.m. CST

    I agree Colon-El

    by Continentalop

    Penguin is about consistency. It takes a lot of willpower to look as weak as him.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:54 a.m. CST

    no i think they are skewing younger..

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Stabby, I think it is a sequel

    by Continentalop

    But I've come to a conclusion that prequels always suck. <P> Has there ever been a good prequel? And don't say BB because that is an origin story for a relaunch.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Later, Col.

    by Stabby

  • June 11, 2010, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Good

    by Continentalop

    It means Lindey's career is still tanking and I've still got a shot with her.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:58 a.m. CST

    pirates is a sequel all about jack sparrow

    by Six Demon Bag

    cause thats what the fans want.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:59 a.m. CST

    cinemagic has been playing some WICKED '81 scores..

    by Six Demon Bag

    CLASH OF THE TITANS, EXCALIBUR, BODY HEAT, RAIDERS

  • June 11, 2010, 9 a.m. CST

    I think Geoffrey Rush is in it too

    by Continentalop

    Capt. Barbossa is pretty damn fun as well.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:01 a.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM.

    by Six Demon Bag

    best prequel ever.<P>and halfof GODFATHER 2

  • June 11, 2010, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Good call 6DB

    by Continentalop

    But I would say more often than not prequels fuck things up. See Vader, Fett, Wolverine, Hannibal Lecter, Dumb & Dumber, and the Exorcist for proof.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:06 a.m. CST

    And I know a lot of people are going to hate me for saying this.

    by Continentalop

    ...But Young Sherlock Holmes as well.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Sixes!

    by STLost

    Yes...TEMPLE OF DOOM!! GREATEST PREQUEL EVER! <P> and it opens with a musical number and Dr. Jones in a tux! <P> < P >, I love TEMPLE OF DOOM

  • June 11, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Good Prequels:

    by Stabby

    Godfather 2 and Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Continental...agreed

    by STLost

    99 % of prequels suck. They don't further the story or offer any character development. I would go so far as to say that they destroy character development, since stuff a character does in a prequel usually changes what they did in the first movies, and not for the better.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Geoffrey Rush owns Depp's ass in Pirates 1

    by Stabby

    But, you're right, people want more Jack Sparrow.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:11 a.m. CST

    TEMPLE actually builds on the

    by STLost

    character of Indiana Jones. He used to be in archaeology for the money and fame. After the events of DOOM, he realizes that isn't what archaeology is about. <P> And we get an awesome sidekick, villain, and score.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:13 a.m. CST

    I was pleasantly surprised by ..

    by STLost

    the PIRATES trilogy. Granted, the sequels go down in quality as they progress, but overall as a series, it was pretty decent for the state of movies nowadays.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Conti, after Samantha I think we all got a shot

    by Stabby

    as long as we get her before DGDB does. Then she's ruined for good.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Good points STL

    by Continentalop

    I would add that prequels usually explain and expand on stuff that doesn't need it. Most prequels seem intent on explaining how someone met someone or got something, like it was a live action version of Santa Claus is Coming to Town. <P> If the audience already accepts something and likes it, why do you need to explain it? It's like the opening of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: was the opening sequence of him as a young kid really necessary? I mean, do we need to see where he got his hat, his whip and his fear of snakes? It seemed to work fine in Raiders and Temple when we had no clue their origins but we accepted them.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Stabby, I don't mind Danny

    by Continentalop

    But I am not going to be taking a number after him.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:15 a.m. CST

    STL, I have only seen the first PIRATES

    by Continentalop

    and PIRATES II: Stagnetti's Revenge. What is this trilogy you speak of?

  • June 11, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST

    With Pirates I don't really think it matters

    by Stabby

    if the next movie was a prequel or a sequel as long as Sparrow is being Sparrow. Plus, I think people would love to know the history of Jack Sparrow. I know I would. Honestly, that's probably the only thing that would get me in the theater for another Pirates movie.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Off-topic...

    by Subtitles_Off

    Seems there are a lot of Peebs going to see A-TEAM (!)<P>Anybody want to do a SOME GUY & SOME OTHER GUY @ THE MOVIES™?

  • June 11, 2010, 9:21 a.m. CST

    The real question is will Lindsay pull a Chloe Sevigny

    by Stabby

    in the Linda Lovelace bio? For art's sake!

  • June 11, 2010, 9:22 a.m. CST

    er...Yikes...sorry Continental...

    by STLost

    PIRATES of the Caribbean trilogy. Wow, I just Googled PIRATES and PIRATES II: Stagnetti's Revenge. <P> Yowza

  • June 11, 2010, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Subs, don't look at me

    by Continentalop

    No way I am going to see the A-Team. <P>

  • June 11, 2010, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Yeah, LAST CRUSADE opening...

    by STLost

    kinda fun, but not needed. One more reason why LAST CRUSADE < TEMPLE OF DOOM

  • June 11, 2010, 9:25 a.m. CST

    I might see THE A TEAM...

    by STLost

    but not opening weekend. I think the family and I are seeing TOY STORY 3 first.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:27 a.m. CST

    On-topic...

    by Subtitles_Off

    Prequels...<P> I am so with 'Lop when he says things don't need to be explained. Example: Indiana Jones' fear of snakes. Some things are best left mysterious. It goes back to my audience engagement theory. If the audience is wondering why a certain thing is - a character bit, a bit of color (not plot, although I personally like ambiguous plots, too) - their minds are engaged, and it will be more memorable.<P>Prequels can work if they tell a DIFFERENT story with younger versions of the characters. I mean, any given character, unless it began cinematic life as an infant, had a fictional life before. It's no more necessarily a worse direction than a sequel, but it can't play off of events people already know from the first. That almost always comes across as just empty riffing.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:29 a.m. CST

    HA! 'Lop!

    by Subtitles_Off

    I assumed not.<P>But I thought I read above at least two or three Peebers saying they were planning on seeing it.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:30 a.m. CST

    i remember seeing CRUSADE..

    by Six Demon Bag

    and thinking up to the point where they start saying indys name you thought the other man was INDY..kinda a wink at the audience..<P>but yeah moist prequels do suck for the main fact that you know how the storys gonnas end..it kills ALL suspense..<P>TEMPLE OF DOOM sidestepped this cause people at that time werent paying that close attention to dates..did it say 1936 or 35?<P>but were any of you in doubt as to the fate of obi wan or padme or yoda in SITH?<P>or holmes in YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES?<P>wow i need to see that again..its been too long..i remember liking it..not great but entertaining.<P>and how do you go from DINER to YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES is anyones guess.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Is "pull a Chloe Sevigny" a euphemism for

    by Subtitles_Off

    oral? Because, while I think Lindsay Lohan would put almost anything in her mouth, I think the "almost" part definitely includes male genitals.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    ill be seeing ATEAM

    by Six Demon Bag

    when i dont know?

  • June 11, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Speaking of A-Team and 80s tv show remakes

    by Stabby

    Wow, this really made me realize how much the 80s sucked: http://tinyurl.com/28emags

  • June 11, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    HAHA Subs.

    by STLost

  • June 11, 2010, 9:33 a.m. CST

    "pull a Chloe Sevigny"

    by Stabby

    from Brown Bunny. So, yes.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:34 a.m. CST

    The way STAR WARS Original

    by STLost

    trilogy is setup, I don't think any kind of prequels would have worked sufficiently. <P> The prequel ideas in our heads are much better than what actually was filmed. <P> I wonder if you can film any kind of prequel idea that retains any suspense for the final confrontation between Obi-Wan and Anakin.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:35 a.m. CST

    I'm with Lop on A-Team

    by Stabby

    Now, enough with this Jibber Jabber!

  • June 11, 2010, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Fukken EW!

    by Subtitles_Off

    You're probably going to see 12 of those get green-lit over the weekend.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:40 a.m. CST

    ST, probably not for me to say, considering, but

    by Subtitles_Off

    no. There is no way you can make "How did Darth Vader become Darth Vader?" compelling for people who had invested twenty years already wondering.<P>As someone said, earlier in the week, the arc of The Prequels should have been something entirely else, with that little tidbit of Vaderishness being incidental - part of the adventure, off-to-the-side, perhaps as a result of the events of the arc, but not the focus.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:42 a.m. CST

    That said - and everything Lucas says confirms it -

    by Subtitles_Off

    the film-makers don't care about the views of fans of the original STAR WARS. They just wanted to catch lightening a second time for a subsequent generation. For all their intents and purposes, they were successful.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:45 a.m. CST

    keep fucking that LUCAS

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 9:51 a.m. CST

    more awesome scores from 81 i just heard...

    by Six Demon Bag

    DRAGONSLAYER, ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK, HEAVY METAL, STRIPES

  • June 11, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    cinemagic is themed for films of the 80s this weekend..

    by Six Demon Bag

    to coincide with ATEAM and KARATE KID coming out..two 80s icons.<P>NOW ONTO 82!!

  • June 11, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    ah, STRIPES..fun movie

    by STLost

    I'll need to get that from the library, but first comes DIE HARD and ALIENS.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Heya fellas

    by white_vader

    Interesting. Lat time I was in here we were sorta agreeing most sequels are shit. But today we've discovered a couple of exceptions that prove the rule. Nice!

  • June 11, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST

    PREQUELS!

    by white_vader

    And LAST. Gah.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Bur Subs! I WANT to know how Vader

    by white_vader

    coulda sat on the Imperial Senate all that time with Leia right across from him and not sensed a fucking thing! Explain THAT one Mr. I-planned-it-all-out-about-being-the-father!

  • June 11, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Well,

    by STLost

    HELLO Mr. Fancy-pants!

  • June 11, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Knowing the end doesn't necessarily kill suspense

    by white_vader

    AT ALL. Lawrence of Arabia anyone? I sure didn't walk out a few seconds in. And I wouldn't have even if he was a fictional character (because many biopics are more fiction than reality anyway in the service of dramatic structure). <p> Sure it's a tall order, but the whole point and challenge of those "bookend" pics (and not necessarily just the biopics. Sunset Boulevard anyone?) is that the storytelling is compelling enough or the characters appealing enough that you care about what happens to them DESPITE their inevitable fate. I love that sort of "how did I get here" challenge! <p> It's the journey, not the destination.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:11 a.m. CST

    ET and POLTERGEIST

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Summer TV

    by Stabby

    Melissa & Joey ABC Family, Aug. 17, Tuesdays, 8 p.m. Gen-X nostalgia alert! Sabrina the Teenage Witch's Melissa Joan Hart and Blossom's Joey Lawrence, both 34, return to their sitcom roots on Melissa & Joey. She's a party girl–turned–local politician, he's the bankrupt financial adviser who moves in to help her care for her sister's kids. In a word: Whoa!

  • June 11, 2010, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Does anyone STILL believe Lucas had

    by Subtitles_Off

    &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>anything &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br>planned out when he was making STAR WARS?<P>That always amazes me, because, granted, I'm not a fan - we know this - but real fans of the thing seem to me to be so knowledgeable about all these infinite details - names and places and designs, and a zillion other things that just flash by the average movie watcher. It seems incomprehensible to me that these same people believe Darth Vader was intended as Luke Skywalker's father all along.<P>The whole scroll thing, was a simple homage to the movie serials of Lucas' youth. He never really intended there to be a back-story (or an after-story, for that matter).<P>Sure, nowadays, they've green-lit a "franchise" worth of films when they're making the first one. That's not how it worked back then. A sequel, even for a successful film, was never a guaranteed thing, and film-makers didn't think in those terms.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Hiya, 'nilla.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I almost typed g'morning.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:13 a.m. CST

    speaking of bookended films--FALLEN

    by Six Demon Bag

    thats a nice little twist.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Meant to say

    by white_vader

    I love the dynamic of being so sympathetic to the character that you know what's coming and you're hoping like mad that something, anything will happen to avert it because you WANT them to stick around, find the girl, not get sick etc. It's like the opposite mechanism to a time travel movie where you're always cringing at the obstacles that mean they might never get home!

  • June 11, 2010, 10:15 a.m. CST

    However, 'nilla,

    by Subtitles_Off

    that "journey" you mention...STAR WARS fans had been on that journey - in their own minds - for 20 years already. I really don't think there's a way Lucas could've rewarded that journey by codifying it.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Heya Subs

    by white_vader

    Well actually, it IS morning here! Quarter past 1 actually. So a few hours behind you. But WAIT! A day in FRONT of you! <p> But how can this be? Because I IS the Kwisatz Haderach! Bwahahahaha!

  • June 11, 2010, 10:19 a.m. CST

    i believe there was a big story..

    by Six Demon Bag

    basically he had a really big story and he wanted to tell it all..the details prolly werent all there but the main plot was<P>he then realized the film would be too long so he made just the first ACT.<P>did he think of yoda in 1975 when he stated writing? prolly not. but thats fine. i think the origianl trilogy is pretty cohesive

  • June 11, 2010, 10:19 a.m. CST

    SUBS...no, I think

    by STLost

    Lucas wrote STAR WARS and &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>maybe &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br>had some ideas scribbled in the margins. Nothing like Vader as Luke's father. After STAR WARS got popular, he probably wrote some notes down about more plot points for more movies.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Why did Vader survive in that broken X-Wing fighter

    by Stabby

    if Lucas did not intend a sequel? He totally left it open for a sequel even though he himself could not foresee its success and the need for one.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:21 a.m. CST

    I must not fear.

    by STLost

    Fear is the mind-killer.<BR> Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.<BR> I will face my fear.<BR> I will permit it to pass over me and through me.<BR> And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.<BR> Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.<BR> Only I will remain.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:23 a.m. CST

    I remember a rumor in the 80s

    by STLost

    with regards to the whole 1-3 and 7-9 trilogies. Lucas had a plan for some villain that is established in 1-3 to return in 7-9, like he was frozen in carbonite and sent into space in episode 3, and then returns in 7. Weird.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:23 a.m. CST

    I'll never believe it, Sixies.

    by Subtitles_Off

    STAR WARS is a film with a beginning, a middle and an end. Everything after the end credits, is propelled by material that is added, after the fact. A continuation. Then, a retreat. But, nothing, ever, that is a necessary element to elucidate the first.<P>Lucas is not Tolkien.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Why did Vader survive?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Again, as an homage to the movie serials of Lucas' youth. Ming The Merciless always survived.<P> Not every character - even a bad guy - dies at the end of every story for that story to be complete.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:27 a.m. CST

    It makes sense for Luke to be Vader's son

    by Stabby

    After all, Anakin was the most powerful Jedi and Luke is equally powerful restoring order to the force and defeating the Empire. I believe Lucas planned Vader as Luke's father, especially given that Vader's true identity it literally cloaked in mystery. Now, Leia being Luke's brother on the other hand.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Don't believe me?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Look at the dialogue and other changes Lucas made to his revisions to cover his tracks.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:28 a.m. CST

    subs

    by Six Demon Bag

    thats fine you dont have to drink the juice..but "his"tory has said that there were many drafts of the script revised and updated and things that couldnt fit into one film..<P>he said he would continue the story if they would let him (ie--if the first one made money)<P>he had basic premise stuff and filled in the details over the years..

  • June 11, 2010, 10:32 a.m. CST

    History is a funny thing, that way.

    by Subtitles_Off

    When you're sixty you can tell everybody you planned to marry Jacyln Smith when you were twenty, but when you met her at age nineteen, you were disappointed, so that's why you married Phlegmmy Flenderson, the love of your life (because you never met anybody else who would marry your sorry arse.)

  • June 11, 2010, 10:33 a.m. CST

    subs

    by Six Demon Bag

    the revisions and changes did nothing to the plot..just superficial shit the give ILM something to do..<P>the only dialogue i can think of that kinda changed is when the emperor (hologram) is talking to vader in EMPIRE and that was unecessary LET ME EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU! exposition.<P>ive said it again..lil demon is watching the OG trilogy FIRST, to get the real stuff. the suprise of finding out who YODA is and VADER being lukes father was killer for me..<P>making them watch the prequels first constitutes as child abuse IMO

  • June 11, 2010, 10:34 a.m. CST

    I remember Lucas' interviews in the wake of

    by Subtitles_Off

    STAR WARS' success. I know what he's said and also when he's said it.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Where'd 'Lop go?

    by Subtitles_Off

    I want to hear more about The Penguin.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:39 a.m. CST

    So is Massawyrm ripping off Cobra-Kai?

    by Stabby

    I know Cobes isn't the first to use 'doens't exist in this dojo' but he does do so consistently on AICN.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Sixes...

    by STLost

    you showing Lil' Demon the ORIGINAL originals, right? No special edition stuff.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:43 a.m. CST

    You're probably right, Sixies.

    by Subtitles_Off

    The entire emphasis and structure of the "Darth Vader killed your father" was never altered, although people who paid far closer attention than I ever did have told me so.<P>It is, definitely, a "kool-aid drinking" thing, as you hinted at, and no one should ever take offense at anything I say about it, because I've admitted I don't care about it enough.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:43 a.m. CST

    lucas had time to give interviews after STAR WARS?!

    by Six Demon Bag

    cause hes always said that him and his best bud steven speilberg went to hawaii and traded profit points on each others films and created INDIANA JONES while they were there to get away from the craziness of STAR WARS and CEOT3K

  • June 11, 2010, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Massawyrm said GI JOE was..

    by STLost

    "dumb fun". <P> He got one word right and one word wrong. Can you guess?

  • June 11, 2010, 10:44 a.m. CST

    lil demon will ONLY see the films

    by Six Demon Bag

    i saw as a child.<P>til i die.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:46 a.m. CST

    I'll bet you "dumb fun"

    by Subtitles_Off

    is used &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>ad nauseum &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br>this weekend.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:46 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    KARATE KID reviews are up... time to go to work.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:47 a.m. CST

    subs

    by Six Demon Bag

    the whole OBI WAN "certain point of view" mishap is JUST like OL' BEN though..that was his personality..he wouldnt say that anikin became your father..he would say that vader betrayed and murdered your father.<P>1-its a little more manipulative to get luke to come with him ato avenge his father..<P>and 2-its not nice to speak ill of the "dead" even if he really isnt dead

  • June 11, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Luke couldn't handle the truth

    by Stabby

    He wasn't ready to learn about his father being the most evil man in the universe. Ben did him a favor.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:51 a.m. CST

    if i watched STAR WARS intially as an adult

    by Six Demon Bag

    id be more weary of BEN KENOBI..he does seem to have all the answers..for all we know, HE killed uncle owen and beru and framed the troopers<P>THATS THE LAST TIME YOU AND YOUR WIFE CALL ME A CRAZY OLD WIZARD, YOU FUCKEN MOISTURE FARMER!! as he ignites their lifeless bodies and dances around their flaming crispy bodies YOU'LL NEVER BE MOIST AGAIN, YOU SILLY SILLY MOISTURE FARMER!! now off to find your nephew..

  • June 11, 2010, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Gentlemen!

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST

    FIRST BLOOD and CONAN

    by Six Demon Bag

    rocking the goldsmith and poledouris!!

  • June 11, 2010, 10:54 a.m. CST

    I wasn't talking about Star Wars re: the journey

    by white_vader

    Except to be a smartarse about the senate thing. Just talking about that type of story structure, generally it's done in one movie (hence the bookmark analogy). Although the Star Wars trilogies ARE sort of each trying to be three long-arse acts. And neither really works that way. <p> I agree about codifying it - remember my rant about the reductive bullet point structure that crosses off all the creative elements into dead-ends? Same thing. The way Lucas did the prequels he did exactly the same thing all those shitty 'extended universe' books & comics and so on did. Joined obscure Alien A up with off-the-cuff mention of planet B until there nothing left and you've come to a state of creative arrest. <p> Originally when Lucas was talking about th prequels he was saying it was his sandbox and he could shit in it if he liked, he wasn't going to be bossed around by whiny fanboys who only wanted Fett to be ALIVE down in the belly of that beast. And I said good for him! Do something different because it meant he was listening to his gut. BUT in the end he both shit in the sandbox AND listened to all the fanboys. Like we needed to be bashed over the head with Fett's Dad and MORE fucking duality themes! <p> Remember that Jar-Jar was originally going to be MUTE! Yes slapstick, but in keeping with his idea of these things being essentially silent movies. That's a pure intent. But nope. <p> And midichlorians. The bullet-point explanation of a mystical concept whose very power was it's universality through ambiguity! Bah! <p> Anyway I could go on for ages about it but I really gotta get to bed soon. Big day tomorrow. <p> Oh and I agree with what you said earlier about telling DIFFERENT stories. Prequel or sequel, that's the ticket, because you're opening it up, not the reductive join-the-dots thing. Sure, be clever enough to pepper a couple of little treats for the audience that put a SPIN on their preconceptions from the, er, future of the character, but don't make that sort of novelty the WHOLE picture, which is exactly the problem with all these other flicks we're talking about. <p> The thing with Temple of Doom and oh boy yep so much better than that bullshit reductive (in terms of making racist jokes of Sallah and Marcus and undoing all that work) third instalment (that's overly harsh but I'm making a point about reductivism here) third movie, is that it helps make the character bigger and more mythlike in terms of "oh, this was just another of his adventures - he had 'em all the time. And look! We didn't even start at the beginning! This one was BEFORE Raiders! He's been doing all SORTS of cool shit for ages." Sure it has plenty of dodgy stuff like all the fucking screaming and that whole unlikeable character of Willie in general, but at its core it opens UP Indy's story. <p> Oh and if knowing the end of a movie/story made the whole thing pointless then we'd never see a movie or read a book or listen to an album and so on more than once. But we do. Hmmmm. <p> I'm willing to give another Pirates one a chance though. Basing a movie on a fucking ride looked like the most cynical pathetic idea ever, but the bits they used are only exactly those tiny twisty nuggets I was talking about earlier, and essentially they used the brand-awareness (yes I'm shuddering too as I write that) to get a regular good ol' Pirate movie up and happening when marketing types said it was dead because the last one sucked. When that never stopped 'em from making yet another shitty cop movie or romantic comedy! So they earned my curiosity and trust that they can do the 'open it up' thing here. Fingers crossed hard. <p> P.S. Just quickly back to SW pre-planning, yes Lucas wrote a big backstory. And Darth Vader may be awfully close to "Dark Father". And he WAS a Joseph Campbell disciple before he lost his mind and perverted that stuff. BUT I think taking all those iterations where he mixed characters, changed their relationships and even sex are called story DEVELOPMENT, and it's pretty fucking disingenuous to play semantics and distort that into 'oh yes, I had all that boiling the whole time'.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Go get 'em, Cobes!

    by Stabby

    Fight the good fight!

  • June 11, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Sure, TEMPLE OF DOOM is a prequel, but

    by ColonelFatheart

    aside from Indy learning that "fortune and glory" aren't everything, it's only a prequel because it happens to be set earlier. They don't set out to explain anything. <p>Plus, you gotta love the little joke that Indy tried and failed with the gun-on-sword stunt before he had success with it. <p>I just watched TEMPLE OF DOOM last night. Easily one of the five most entertaining movies I've seen.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:03 a.m. CST

    I just want Jack Saprrow to get laid

    by Stabby

    I know it's not going to happen, but I can dream.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST

    If Jack Sparrow gets laid, it's gotta be by a dude.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 11:06 a.m. CST

    WUT?!

    by Stabby

  • June 11, 2010, 11:08 a.m. CST

    the second half of that film (DOOM) is all action..

    by Six Demon Bag

    once they enter the cave..its all good!

  • June 11, 2010, 11:08 a.m. CST

    the second half of that film (DOOM) is all action..

    by Six Demon Bag

    it doesnt let up.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:08 a.m. CST

    TRON and KHAN!!

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST

    TRONNNNNNNNN!!!!!

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST

    You're reading that into Ben's character Sixies

    by white_vader

    It's only true "from a certain point of view". And a revisionist one at that. Come on, it comes from what Ben said in Empire. Which was Lucas re-jigging SW to retroactively get himself out of a closed plot thread. <p> I'm in the school of thought that believes SW was a one-off. And after that yes, nine parts & back to three. But you should read that big-arse making of Star Wars book (and the Pollock thing had a lot of of-the-time stuff too from memory, but I haven't read that since it came out) which charts the many iterations of the script. Lucas did kill the main bad guy in that film though. Vader was the bulldog on the leash remember? And the Emperor is only mentioned. I like all that because shit, the awesome looking scary guy isn't even the baddest cat! There's another Hammer-horror looking motherfucker that outranks him, and shit, even another guy we've only HEARD about! That's the sort of storytelling that opens your imagination up! We're only seeing a tiny bit, but you can imagine all the other stuff that's going on... Even the visual exposition in the amazing weirdo aliens that -wait! GO back! I wanna know - but hey, what's going on now? See what I mean about opening things up? It happened until Jedi, which is when it all started inverting. <p> Oh and remember the Falcon was the blockade runner 'til the last minute! They even took the cockpit off and stuck it on the new hamburger & olive Lucas design. That's why the model's so damn big for such a minor appearance. <p> Blockade Runner still rules though. It had a playboy poster inside the window! <p> And Steve Austin doll with bionic sight as Ben in the landspeeder is pretty cool too. If you're a fucking miniatures nerd like me...

  • June 11, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Buddy o' mine is at Philly Comic Con today.

    by ColonelFatheart

    Lou Ferrigno, William Shatner and Linda Blair all dropped out. <p>I'd demand my goddamn money back if I were him.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Yeah, it explains Sparrow's overt bisexual mannerisms.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Plus, historically, pirates bonked other pirates, not sexy ladies.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:16 a.m. CST

    EMPIRE magaize does their 100 greatest world cinema list..

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 11:18 a.m. CST

    DO IT, SIXIES!

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Maybe Jack can have a threesome with a dude

    by ColonelFatheart

    and a chick. Present it in the most casual, matter-of-fact way, too. It'd be groundbreaking for such a huge blockbuster. <p>Never happen, of course. It's a kids movie.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:19 a.m. CST

    they should be bring ZOE SALDANA

    by Six Demon Bag

    hot ass pirate.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Col, you'll see that gun-on-sword joke

    by white_vader

    In Star Wars when Han (USED TO) get to the dead end. Same mechanic/mechanism. <p> And you'll see both of them in Seven Samurai when Kikuchiyo does EXACTLY the same thing chasing after the brigand, seeing something out of frame which is then revealed to the audience as the rest of them come charging into frame. Actually the gun & sword thing is in there as well as in Yojimbo. And then we have Hidden Fortress... <p> And you do know the gun gag in Raiders was really in the end because the light was fading and Spielberg said "fuck it" and had Ford shoot the guy because they didn't have time for another setup? It's a pretty common story. <p> And Col. I just remembered that like the plane in Raiders, the Obi-Wan joke in Doom is just what it should be. A throwaway, an EXTRA bit of fun. Not the whole referential meal.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:21 a.m. CST

    mommy, why is that pirate stabbing the other pirate?

    by Six Demon Bag

    but not with his sword..<P>uh..just eat your buttery popcorn son and i'll tell you after you father stops crying.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Yeah, I know that story, Nilla.

    by ColonelFatheart

    Wasn't it also because Ford had the flu or something and needed to go crap/vomit his brains out?

  • June 11, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST

    I watched "The Prestige" last night. For the first time.

    by D.Vader

    Holy shit what an awesome movie. Now I'm really looking forward to "Inception".

  • June 11, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST

    list after lunch..

    by Six Demon Bag

    ill break them up in 25s..till the 10s..to allow for suspense..<P>or in honor of todays them, should i do the top 10 first and then the rest?

  • June 11, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Glad you dug, PRESTIGE, Vades.

    by ColonelFatheart

    My favorite Nolan.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST

    i have a making of doc that has harrison and pat roach

    by Six Demon Bag

    practicing their duel in RAIDERS when it was gonna be a big hullabaloo.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Bah! Ignore my errant comma!

    by ColonelFatheart

    Must be Friday ... bring on the booze!

  • June 11, 2010, 11:25 a.m. CST

    ST - Fear is the petite d'morte?!

    by white_vader

    Whoa, maybe young Paul was doing it wrong? Or maybe he'd actually progressed past vanilla sex to the place women dare not go...

  • June 11, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST

    17th anniversary of JURASSIC PARK's release.

    by ColonelFatheart

    You're goddamn right I was in the theater that night.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Yeah Col. The sickness thing too.

    by white_vader

    Meant to stick that in there. My typing's slow enough...

  • June 11, 2010, 11:28 a.m. CST

    28th anniversary of ET's release.

    by ColonelFatheart

    You're goddamn right I was pooping my diapers and probably crying about something that night.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Nah, Sixies. Do it in reverse order.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Weird. I was just this minute checking my e-mail, and I'd received - I dunno why - a notice about that very issue.<P>I was going to come back here and ask you if you'd seen the list.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Wait we celebrate 17s and 28s now?

    by Subtitles_Off

    I cannot &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>wait &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br>for The Third-and-a-Half Anniversary of [deleted]!

  • June 11, 2010, 11:30 a.m. CST

    yeah subs i got an email too..

    by Six Demon Bag

    hmm..so start at 100?

  • June 11, 2010, 11:31 a.m. CST

    I'm not celebrating, just noting.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Yeah, in groups of ten-twenty, starting at 100

    by Subtitles_Off

    and then one at a time for the last ten. Perfect!

  • June 11, 2010, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Hmm sorry Subs

    by white_vader

    that was some long-winded agreeing I did! <p> And replying to others just to add confusion. <p> But I got my eyes scanned today and don't need the surgery because I've reversed the effects of the diabetes. I'm happy and all talky! Hooray!

  • June 11, 2010, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Sorry, Col. I misunderstood.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I thought you were imitating Harry, there, for a minute.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Nah, if I imitate Harry, it'll come as parody.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST

    the 20th anniversary of 1990

    by white_vader

    just makes me feel bloody old. To me, the 60s is 20 years ago. Doesn't mean I will wear the 80s stuff I wore as a teen to the grave like other old people though. It's the youngsters that unknowingly wear that shit now.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Col. Ferrigno is supposed to be

    by white_vader

    at a Sydney Con next week. Maybe I'll get to see him. He's like, totally that old guy form I love You Man, right? Like.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:37 a.m. CST

    It was great, 'nilla!

    by Subtitles_Off

    The long-windedness is your thing, buddy! And nobody minds it in the least.<P>I feel a little soothed when a knowledgeable STAR WARS fan echoes some of my feelings.<P>It's another one of those things that would inform other people's views of me: The whole "I am your father, Luke" blew the minds of almost an entire generation of movie-goers. But the rest of us (I'm not including you here, 'nilla - just me and a few million others) stepped off, there, because, to us, it felt like a gimmick, a cheat, a gotcha!

  • June 11, 2010, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Yeah, and the wacky neighbor from King of Queens, too.

    by ColonelFatheart

    That's it, though.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Ferrigno charges you money to say hello to him.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Ferrigno's evil.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:40 a.m. CST

    I love Nolan's time-twisting

    by D.Vader

    All the cross-cutting between different time periods, leaving you to work out when this takes place, before or after this scene, etc. I think that's why I might prefer Batman Begins to The Dark Knight (which had none of that). I guessed the ending surprises in "Prestige", but that didn't diminish my enjoyment of it one bit.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:42 a.m. CST

    I was wondering the other day...

    by Subtitles_Off

    I can watch an old 70s movie, see hippies and not think "dated." I can watch an old thirties movie with men in tuxes and not think "dated."<P>Why is it I canNOT see parachute pants, head-bands and Big Hair without pissing myself with laughter?

  • June 11, 2010, 11:42 a.m. CST

    I was just thinking last night of Jurassic Park

    by D.Vader

    And how in 3 years it will be the 20 yr anniversary, and how it doesn't seem that long ago. And yet in 1997 when I was 15 and it was the Star Wars 20th anniversary, that seemed like such a long time ago.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:45 a.m. CST

    I got the Empire's 100 email too

    by D.Vader

    Which I thought was weird; I don't think I've ever received an email from them before.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Yes, Vades, that is weird.

    by Subtitles_Off

    That time compression thing. It has to do with our younger selves, I think, always measuring a year by a school year which seemed forever to a child.<P> When I was a little kid, there were celebrities whose big success only preceded me by four years or so; yet, to me, they seemed grown up and long ago.<P>Nowadays, someone says nearly ten years have past since LOTR, and I argue that it only came out three years ago.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST

    D.Vader..

    by STLost

    just like back when you were a kid, Summer Vacation lasted forever, and it took eons for Christmas Eve to arrive. <P> We're older dude. Stuff moves fast when you are old and not innocent anymore.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST

    The thing I remember about seeing Empire

    by white_vader

    is being royally pissed off because I had the worst headache of my young life and couldn't properly enjoy it. Must have been the built-up tension. <p> And that my parents were totally bamboozled and cheated because they didn't get the cliffhanger idea. I guess they thought it was going to end there. <p> I'm as objective as I can be about "I am your father". I love it, it's completely in keeping with the tone and IS the biggest revelation they could have possibly done. BUT, I'm under no illusions that it was reverse-engineered. I don't think it has to be one or the other. It can be both. <p> And Yoda USED to be the wise fool, the Japanese clown that reveals himself to be the sensei. Who speaks like an old Jewish guy. "Oy, how get you so big eating food of this kind?"! They even stuffed up the fact that it was part of the act and he dropped it when he was being really serious.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Have you guys been getting a lot of ROLLING STONE e-mails, too?

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 11:49 a.m. CST

    I was born, roughly,

    by Subtitles_Off

    21 years after the heyday of The Universal Monsters. That era seemed prehistoric to me growing up. There's now the same distance between myself and Burton's BATMAN. Yet the sense of time passing is completely different.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Oh hey, Vades!

    by white_vader

    Was it you asking me if I read that "Graphic" competition thing before? Yeah, and I spent a couple of hourse wrting out a MUCH too ambitious three-act thing. Dunno if I'd have time, but it was fun for the exercise. I could always work out how to trim it back I guess.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST

    No

    by D.Vader

  • June 11, 2010, 11:53 a.m. CST

    I once read this thing about ageing

    by white_vader

    and the relativity thing. When you're only one year old, one year seems like an eternity (arguing sentience for the sake of a clean analogy) because its the whole of your life. <p> When you're one hundred, a year seems to speed by in the blink of an eye because it's a mere one-hundredth of your life. <p> Makes sense to me, whether I like it or not.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:53 a.m. CST

    It all comes down to living in the moment, Subs.

    by ColonelFatheart

    As much as I love KING KONG 33, I still regard it as somewhat of a relic. I'll never have the feeling those moviegoers had then when they saw special effects of that magnitude. It was such a vivid moment for my grandfather, that every time he saw it, it made him feel and act a lot younger.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Oh. Musta been someone else Vades.

    by white_vader

    Sorry dude.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:55 a.m. CST

    'nilla, yeah, I've always "gotten" that, RE: "I am your father"

    by Subtitles_Off

    I guess what I mean to say is, to me, it felt cheap-stuntish because there'd been no hint of it that I could key to. I'm not saying they needed to telegraph it earlier with some heavy-handed foreshadowing, but it sure wasn't graceful. It was a shock that didn't resonate with me because it seemed for shock shake only. It seemed to me the equivalent of Carrie's hand bursting out of a grave (and, yes, I realize, I probably have the sequences of the two films reversed - I'm using the hand thing as an example, not saying it was copied).

  • June 11, 2010, 11:55 a.m. CST

    It made him feel like he was there all those years ago.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST

    'nilla, it WAS him. The "no" was RE:ROLLING STONE

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 12:01 p.m. CST

    More relativity

    by white_vader

    To me that movie thing is the same as say, music. I can intellectually appreciate that Hendrix got sounds out of a guitar that were unlike anything people had heard. But I can never VISCERALLY understand the experience of being around to hear it the first time, as I've never known a time without it or it filtering through all those other artists. I'll never know that first pure impact.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Well, 'nilla.

    by Subtitles_Off

    You'll always have immersive 3D.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Relativity: PSYCHO, too.

    by ColonelFatheart

    Wow, what was it like to experience something like that visceral the first time, with no preconceived notions other than what to expect from Hitchcock and no knowledge of the plot? <p>I mean, in a way I'm glad that I never had the sensibilities that would have been shocked by something like PSYCHO, but I wish I could experience it that way just once.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:05 p.m. CST

    I getcha Subs

    by white_vader

    On Vader. I'm on the side of no telegraphing there actually. Even if it WAS only because he came up with it later. I understand your view completely though. <p> Oh. Gotcha on the "no" too. <p> I'm hitting the hay. It's 3 in the morning and I'll never get up. Gotta cut my Chatty Cathy cord! 'Night!

  • June 11, 2010, 12:08 p.m. CST

    'Night, 'nilla!

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Night, Nilla!

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 12:11 p.m. CST

    hehe, It was D.Vader that

    by STLost

    mentioned the contest to nilla.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:11 p.m. CST

    night, white_vader!

    by STLost

  • June 11, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST

    I still share Mum-n-Da'nilla's thing about "cliffhangers."

    by Subtitles_Off

    I knew it was coming in LOTR, and I still left the theater flummoxed. In fact, that's the whole reason I had to sit down and read the entire trilogy, for the first time, right afterward. I had to have the whole story.<P>I don't mind cliffhangers for TV series. I guess, the idea of a series always implies cliffhangers, anyway.<P>But, I'm the type who is comfortable with my movies and my books being "whole."

  • June 11, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST

    oh, I should read posts..

    by STLost

    before I post...Missed Subs' post on the issue.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    I'm hoping Flick and Toddie are enjoying all their time in the p

    by Subtitles_Off

    Because everybody here misses him.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    *park*

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Ever buy a bag of oranges

    by Subtitles_Off

    that were so dry and tasteless, it made you want to re-envision citrus?

  • June 11, 2010, 12:21 p.m. CST

    ... You know it's FlickaTrue, FlickaPoo ...

    by ColonelFatheart

    ... Pebrew Nation misses you ...

  • June 11, 2010, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Hell yeah, Subs. It's like Tropicana the Vampire

    by ColonelFatheart

    came by a sucked all the juice out before putting 'em back on the shelf. <p>Let's reboot Citrus. Get Platinum Dunes on it, stat!

  • June 11, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Squooshy, squooshy Platinum Dunes oranges.

    by Subtitles_Off

    They just squirt right in your face when you bite them. They don't care.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST

    White Vades, I was saying "No" to Subs emails

    by D.Vader

    From Rolling Stones. Your post about the graphics competition hadn't popped up yet. I did ask you about the competition the other day. Glad to hear you cooked something up, even if its too ambitious, its always good to get the creative juices flowing.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST

    While you guys are working,

    by Subtitles_Off

    I'm gonna watch a movie. I think it was Star Hump who recommended THAT DAMNED UNITED. A bit of synchronicity, what with all World Cup stuff coming up, wot, wot?

  • June 11, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Ha ha Subs

    by MacReady452

    i'm laughin.<p>I'm having the exact opposite problem with an orange right now. The thing is so ripe it is actually dripping all over my hand and making a total mess. Very tasty though. I hate to admit it but Wal-Mart has the best oranges. I have tried the public market and other high end supermarkets but none are as good as the oranges at Wal-Mart.<p>FACT.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:29 p.m. CST

    I wish I were eating one of your oranges, Mac.

    by Subtitles_Off

    My mouth is still spitting at my chin in disgust over the thing I just had in my mouth.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:30 p.m. CST

    But they do it in impeccably monochromatic,

    by ColonelFatheart

    commercial-worthy lighting.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:30 p.m. CST

    *My tongue* or *had in it*

    by Subtitles_Off

    I hate when I write sloppily.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST

    John Woo oranges

    by Subtitles_Off

    squirt in slow-motion, as doves fly over head.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Paul Greengrass oranges.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Shake in your hand so much, you can't really tell where you've bitten them.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Zack Snyder oranges

    by Subtitles_Off

    beat &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>you &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br>to the pulp!

  • June 11, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST

    HA! Col! Those are Ingmar Bergman oranges!

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 12:35 p.m. CST

    George Lucas oranges.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Fukk 'em!<P>I'll type @ yaz later!

  • June 11, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST

    I wasn't laughing at your misfortune

    by MacReady452

    just the co-inky-dink.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST

    See ya, Subs.

    by ColonelFatheart

    "All ... by ... my...se-eh-eh-elf"

  • June 11, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Alfred Hitchcock oranges

    by MacReady452

    eaten by a blond woman while a menacing figure stares at them from the shadows.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah! Mac is here!

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 12:40 p.m. CST

    I'll hang with you for a minute Colonel

    by MacReady452

    i'm out at 2 and then its off to drink away the weekend. Just got word that my Teamsters union probably won't strike. So I got that going for me. Which is nice.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:41 p.m. CST

    im here too

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 12:42 p.m. CST

    mac

    by Six Demon Bag

    you're a teamster??<P>awe-some.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Yup

    by MacReady452

    lots of ass scratching and telling the managers to eat me.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:44 p.m. CST

    I watched Crystal Skull again last night

    by D.Vader

    Its really not as bad as all the talkbacker hyperbole tries to convince the world. Really, what I think the worst thing about it is its complexity. Its a bit confusing trying to figure out who's kidnapped who, who has disappeared, why Indy is getting involved, why they need to find this place, why the Crystal Skull is there, who found it first, who found Akator, who brought it back and hid it and yadda yadda yadda. <p> The other movies were very simple: Find the Ark before the Nazis. Recover the Shankara Stones and save the slave children. Find the Holy Grail before the Nazis and rescue your father. <p> In Skull its like, translate this letter, find the Ox, and then oh yeah, the Crystal Skull gets found along the way, as does Marion, and now he has to return the skull and... eh. I'm still not sure of the timeline of events that happened offscreen. And the reveal of the Crystal Skull was very underwhelming, as if it wasn't important to the plot. Unlike the Ark, Stones, and Grail. <p> That said, its still an enjoyable movie and not the trainwreck some folks want to make it out to be.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Coppola's Oranges

    by D.Vader

    Signal future doom and death.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:46 p.m. CST

    JJ Abrams' oranges in the mouth of John Locke

    by D.Vader

    Show him to be an awesome and creepy motherfucker.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Sixies..Red Dawn is shelved?

    by MacReady452

    i was just reading back...that fucking sucks. I was really looking forward to it.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST

    John Carpenters oranges

    by MacReady452

    one slice is unbelievably good and the next one is terrible and you never know which you'll get just that the first one was so good you will keep trying them.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST

    I think Flick owes Toddlerpoo...

    by STLost

    a lot of outdoor/library time, seeing as how the car keys were left in Wifeapoo's purse the other day.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST

    They still have a little bit to finish with Red Dawn

    by D.Vader

    But yeah, its definitely not coming out in November.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Mac, sounds like a plan.

    by ColonelFatheart

    Nice Simpson reference, too. <p>My buddy's Flag Day BBQ is tomorrow. It's going to be fucking epic.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Crystal Skull is enjoyable enough

    by MacReady452

    Shia CG swinging with monkeys is embarrassing. Other than that it was one notch above The Mummy.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:54 p.m. CST

    David Lynch's oranges are apples.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 12:54 p.m. CST

    I'm still trying to figure out...

    by STLost

    why people have issues with the prairie dogs. They are in three scenes, about 6 seconds total, and they don't look CG to me.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:56 p.m. CST

    mmm...I hope we can get..

    by STLost

    some BBQ in this weekend. My wife found an awesome dry rub for ribs that year that we love.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:57 p.m. CST

    GREATEST NON ENGLISH FILMS IN THE WORLD!!! (via EMPIRE)

    by Six Demon Bag

    100. Night Watch<P> 99. Iron Monkey<P> 98. Ran<P> 97. Farewell My Concubine<P> 96. Delicatessan<P> 95. Way of the Dragon<P> 94. Yeelen<P> 93. The Fourth Man<P> 92. Ghost in the Shell<P> 91. Goodbye Lenin<P> 90. Rififi<P> 89. Loves of a Blonde<P> 88. Leningrad Cowboys<P> 87. Andrei Rublev<P> 86. Run Lola Run<P> 85. Il Conformista<P> 84. Orphee<P> 83. Touki Bouki<P> 82. Battle Royale<P> 81. The Host<P> 80. Mother India<P> 79. Bande a part<P> 78. Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown<P> 77. House of Flying Daggers<P> 76. The Idiots

  • June 11, 2010, 12:57 p.m. CST

    K fellers. I'm out.

    by MacReady452

    Don't take any guff from these swine.

  • June 11, 2010, 12:58 p.m. CST

    RIFIFI that low, huh?

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 12:58 p.m. CST

    See ya, Mac.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 1:05 p.m. CST

    I'm with you on that one, STLost

    by D.Vader

    The CGI prairie dogs are not bad looking CGI. And if that's what ruins the movie for you, I think you've got a lot of strange issues when it comes to your movies. <p> The ant scene, however, creeps me out. Epic bugbuts bug scene there.

  • June 11, 2010, 1:06 p.m. CST

    75-51

    by Six Demon Bag

    75. A Bout de Souffle<P> 74. Devdas<P> 73. Hidden<P> 72. Ten Canoes<P> 71. Persona<P> 70. Hard Boiled<P> 69. Ringu<P> 68. Solaris<P> 67. The Vanishing<P> 66. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon<P> 65. Un Chein Andalou<P> 64. Wings of Desire<P> 63. A Prophete<P> 62. 8.5<P> 61. Knife in the Water<P> 60. Jean de Florette/Manon de Sources<P> 59. Heimat<P> 58. Persepolis<P> 57. Central do Brasil<P> 56. Belle de Jour<P> 55. Lagaan<P> 54. Festen<P> 53. All About My Mother<P> 52. Xala<P> 51. Akira<P>

  • June 11, 2010, 1:19 p.m. CST

    50-26

    by Six Demon Bag

    50. Closely Observed Trains<P> 49. M. Hulots Holiday<P> 48. Downfall<P> 47. 10<P> 46. Jules et Jim<P> 45. Suspiria<P> 44. Ikiru<P> 43. Cyrano de Bergerac<P> 42. In the mood for Love<P> 41. My Neighbor Totoro<P> 40. L’Avventura<P> 39. Le Samourai<P> 38. Ashes and Diamonds<P> 37. Rome Open City<P> 36. Dekalog<P> 35. La Grande Illusion<P> 34. Waltz With Bashir<P> 33. M<P> 32. La Haine<P> 31. Godzilla<P> 30. Infernal Affairs<P> 29. 400 Blows<P> 28. Raise the Red Lantern<P> 27. Cinema Paradiso<P>26. La Belle et la Bete<P>

  • June 11, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    25-11

    by Six Demon Bag

    25. Das Boot<P>24. Come and See<P>23. Spirit of the Beehive<P>22. Rashomon<P> 21. Nosferatu<P>20. Y Tu Mama tambien<P>19. Aguirre, Wrath of God<P>18. Oldboy<P>17. The Apu Trilogy<P>16. Tokyo Story<P>15. Let the Right One In<P>14. Three Colors Trilogy<P>13. The Rules of the Game<P>12. Metropolis<P>11. La Dolce Vita<

  • June 11, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST

    10. SPIRITED AWAY

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST

    9. THE WAGES OF FEAR

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST

    8. THE SEVENTH SEAL

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST

    7. CITY OF GOD

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 1:28 p.m. CST

    6. THE BATTLE OF ALGIERS

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 1:28 p.m. CST

    D.Vader.....ant scene...

    by STLost

    creeps you out in a good way , or a bad way (bad CG)? <P> I like the ant scene, some crazy stuff going on there.

  • June 11, 2010, 1:28 p.m. CST

    5. PAN'S LABYRINTH

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 1:28 p.m. CST

    4. THE BICYCLE THIEVES

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 1:29 p.m. CST

    3. BATTLESHIP POTEMKIN

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 1:29 p.m. CST

    2. AMELIE

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 1:29 p.m. CST

    1. THE SEVEN SAMURAI

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Oldboy over Rashomon and others?

    by D.Vader

    Herrmmmm. <p> SEVEN SAMURAI NUMBER ONE BABY!! HELL YEAH! <p> Wait, Amelie as number 2? Uhhhh....

  • June 11, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST

    yeah those ants are no bueno..

    by Six Demon Bag

    nothing like been eaten alive..or dragged to your death into an anthill to be eaten alive..<P>**SHUDDERS**

  • June 11, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST

    STLost, ant scene creeps me out in a good way

    by D.Vader

    I think its very effective. And those ants are fucking real. They're in Africa, not South America, but those ants exist. I've been attacked by ants before, so that scene of watching a swarm of ants crawl over a dude creeps me out. Its great.

  • June 11, 2010, 1:32 p.m. CST

    I've only seen 2 of those

    by STLost

    on that list: CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON and Y TU MAMA TAMBIEN <P> No clue about the others.

  • June 11, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST

    yeah, I thought the ant scene was great...

    by STLost

    and I thought I had heard of similar kinds of ants. Africa makes a better home for them, I think...but it worked in CRYSTAL SKULL. <P> I like the fist fight while the ants swarm around.

  • June 11, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST

    I'm watching SKULL tonight...

    by STLost

    no one better try and stop me!

  • June 11, 2010, 1:36 p.m. CST

    They crawl into your lungs.

    by D.Vader

  • June 11, 2010, 1:42 p.m. CST

    AMELIE???? Wut Da Fuck?

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Yeah that fistfight is pretty danged awesome

    by D.Vader

    I mean, the dude picks Indy up by his ear. His EAR! <p> And Indy gives him a nice 1-2 swinging double-punch.

  • June 11, 2010, 1:52 p.m. CST

    ive seen far less on that list than havent..

    by Six Demon Bag

    some i havent even heard of..<P>thank god for criterion otherwise...

  • June 11, 2010, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Wow...The only time Fridays suck...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    is when they mark the end of your Vacation...But I still have til Monday!!!!

  • June 11, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Quesoshombre. What it is?

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Wut TF?! is up with all the Skull love?

    by Stabby

    Sorry guys, but I got to side with the worst piece of crap raped my midlife crisis crowd on this one.

  • June 11, 2010, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Where's Asi when I need him?

    by Stabby

  • June 11, 2010, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Same as it ever was, Colonel...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    just staying iside out of the heat and humidity...

  • June 11, 2010, 2:01 p.m. CST

    CGI prairie dogs are the least of the problems

    by Stabby

    with the film. They just happen to be the first of many.

  • June 11, 2010, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Cheeses! Finally!

    by STLost

    Now I can praise you for your drawings you put up at the Shelter! I likey! <P> And those party invitations were cool too!. <P> Question: The Nekkid party....were people actually naked?

  • June 11, 2010, 2:07 p.m. CST

    I'm itching for a roadtrip...

    by STLost

    a family vacation style. I'm thinking epic: <P> St. Louis to Grand Canyon.<BR> Grand Canyon to Zion National Park<BR> Zion to Arches National Park<P> Arches to Estes Park, CO<BR> Estes Park back to St. Louis

  • June 11, 2010, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Lostman...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    and yeah, by at least 3 AM there were always naked people in the jaccuzzi...That's why you buy a jaccuzzi...<p>On the other hand, some of those people really should leave their cloths on...

  • June 11, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST

    they probably look better..

    by STLost

    with the beer goggles on anyway.

  • June 11, 2010, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Non-English does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    100 best non-English language films makes me realise just how much better English language films are!<p> I've seen some of those quite recently (CITY OF GOD, PANS LABYRINTH, AMELIE, OLDBOY, DOWNFALL, RUN LOLA RUN) and though they're all 'decent' enough movies none of them would make my personal top 100 all time faves.

  • June 11, 2010, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Breathless is #75

    by Stabby

    Ringu is ahead of it? Amelie is #2? WTF?

  • June 11, 2010, 2:20 p.m. CST

    i love AMELIE..

    by Six Demon Bag

    shes so adorable..

  • June 11, 2010, 2:22 p.m. CST

    The Idiots and Run Lola Run are ahead of Ran?

    by Stabby

    WTF? The Idiots? That piece of crap by Lars von Trier is unwatchable. It's like a bad VH1 reality show about a bunch of people that pretend to be retarded.

  • June 11, 2010, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Where's Godard's Contempt?

    by Stabby

  • June 11, 2010, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Funny thing about our parties...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    …one of our supposed good friends was a young girl who had a back problem as long as we had known her…one party she slips and supposedly hurt herself in our jaccuzzi. She sued our homeowners insurance and we all had to go to depositions and an arbitration…<p>All these flyers and even our big sign in sheet (keepsakes to remember who was there) called called into evidence to show how hedonistic we were. Her lawyer tried to claim we had no business serving alcohol around a jaccuzzi and that we were engaged in “grab-assing“ which led to her injury…the judge at the arbitration just laughed as he dismissed all charges. I still have the depositions and they are HILARIOUS as 5 or six people try to put together and reconstruct what happened at a Cheeses party …that can’t be done even the next morning, much less weeks out…<p>“Mr. Nazareth, were there people naked in your jaccuzzi?” <p>“Of course, why do you think I bought the jaccuzzi?”

  • June 11, 2010, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Don't get me wrong, there's some great films

    by Stabby

    on that list. But, the order is totally out of whack and there's a lot of WTF is that movie doing on thier.

  • June 11, 2010, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Come on, Cheesy, be honest

    by Stabby

    There was a lot of grab-assing going on.

  • June 11, 2010, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Hilarious, Cheeses!

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Who knew grab-assing was against the law?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    The Judge even asked her lawyer when "grab-assing" became a legal term...<p>Her lawyer was a stupid prick...

  • June 11, 2010, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Cheesy, you should write a screenplay

    by Stabby

    about that and others of your swinging adventures.

  • June 11, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Cheeses, if I knew you were into grab-assing I would've made you a founder member of the Ass-Patter Squad yesterday...<p> Squeezes_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Hell, I even drew grab-assing in the hot tub invitation...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    the guy in the lampshade and cowboy boots is grab-assing the bent-over blonde...<p>I figured that was warning enough...I mean seriously, if you got an invitation like that one, wouldn't you expect a LOT more than grab-assing to happen after midnight...really?

  • June 11, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST

    The Host?!

    by Stabby

    Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!

  • June 11, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST

    hahhahha

    by STLost

  • June 11, 2010, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Funny, Cheeses did make my list

    by Stabby

    of the Ultimate Ass Kicking Drinking Squad.

  • June 11, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    I'm putting grab-assing into the screenplay I'm writing

    by Stabby

    right now. I imagine a Ted Knight-like guy saying, "Listen, no grab-assing! You hear me, boys. I don't want any grab-assing! Not in my gentleman's establishment."

  • June 11, 2010, 2:46 p.m. CST

    There are more really good movies on that list

    by Subtitles_Off

    than I see on others, in my view, but, yeah, Stabby's right, the order is all out of whack. That's because it's EMPIRE Magazine. They may be geeks who know better than your average American geek, but they're still geeks.<P>But, such is the thing with lists. As I said, there are so many great films on that list, I'm grateful for it.

  • June 11, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Stabby,

    by Subtitles_Off

    you didn't like THE HOST?<P>I thought it exposed CLOVERFIELD for the fraud it is.

  • June 11, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    One other time, the party had dwindled to 6-8 people….

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    We’re all naked in the hot tub. One totally hot blonde that worked with my Wife was sitting next to me while her husband was next to the Wife…the hot blonde is running her hands all over my legs underwater and I am happy that this was gonna happen!!! (if you know what I mean…)<p>Hot blonde gets out to go to the bathroom…a minute or two later, I get out to get beers…as I stand at the fridge, I hear hot blonde throwing up in the downstairs bathroom…I go check on her and she is okay, actually much better…I help her get cleaned up, rinse out her mouth etc, and she turns and gives me a big naked hug. My back is to the door and I hear it start to open. Blondie pushes it shut….ON MY WIFE!!!! <p>Oh, Jesus…WWIII broke out that night…See, it’s okay to do stuff…you just can’t be secretive about it…and she thought we were sneaking around…<p>Worst part, I still saw that hot blonde at every office function and every time I went to the Wife’s job…We never even spoke about it again…

  • June 11, 2010, 2:56 p.m. CST

    I don't see how Amelie is #2

    by Stabby

    That's like putting Juno as the #2 American film of all time.

  • June 11, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Subs, I liked the Host

    by Stabby

    But, as B Movie horror. The acting and plotting was comical. Should be nowhere near this list.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Finish the story, Cheesy

    by Stabby

    What happened after she shut the door on your wife? Did WWIII breakout immediately?

  • June 11, 2010, 3:07 p.m. CST

    We need to write a screenplay

    by STLost

    on Cheeses' life adventures.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:08 p.m. CST

    I think Jonah Hex and The Other Guys

    by Stabby

    are the only two summer movies I'm kinda looking forward to.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Yeah, it was immediate total destruction...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Party over, Man...

  • June 11, 2010, 3:11 p.m. CST

    That list was very out of whack.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Those and Cheeses' Love Ranch

    by Stabby

  • June 11, 2010, 3:15 p.m. CST

    I was a little let down by THE HOST.

    by ColonelFatheart

    I liked it, thought it better than CLOVERFIELD, but after I had heard about it I went in expecting the Korean JAWS.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Man, I was just joking about Love Ranch

    by Stabby

    but now i just saw that Joe Pesci and Helen Mirren star as the Nevada brothel pioneers. I might hafta see this.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:17 p.m. CST

    I would love to see a classic Joe Pesci performance

    by Stabby

    Been too long

  • June 11, 2010, 3:18 p.m. CST

    ☆☆RECOMMENDED RIGHT-BRAIN CINEMA☆☆™<P>THE DAMNED UNITED<P>

    by Subtitles_Off

    2008. British.<P> Directed by Tom Hooper (remaking EAST OF EDEN). <P>Starring Michael Sheen (THE QUEEN, FROST/NIXON), Colm Meaney ("Star Trek: TNG"), Timothy Spall (HARRY POTTER films), and Jim Broadbent (GANGS OF NEW YORK). <P> Recommended by Star Hump.<P> This one moves toward the top of the very short list of sports-themed films that move me. It's based on real events of British professional football and a coach's single-minded, obsession with his rivals, the brutish, cheating, champion thugs of Leeds United. Sounds typical? But, it isn't. For one thing, most of the actual sports action is archival footage or set in mud and pouring rain, so there's little of the forced romance that comes with a heroic score and choreographed, man-on-manufactured crunch. For another thing, despite the usual underdoggery and rah-rah, the focus really is on fairness - for the football - and personal ambition - for the characters. <P>By the time the underdog coach takes over the hooligans, he's been exposed as something of a conceited, foolish "twat," so there's nobody - on the "soccer" field, anyway - to root for. At that point, the film becomes more of the universal story of adult, male friendship ruined, and the climax has less to do with scores and winning than it does with lessons learned and honest sentiments, well-earned.<P>Don't worry, there's an unnecessary coda that reinforces the old cliches about nice guys and cheaters and their respective positions in the end. Of course there is. It's unlikely anybody'd tell the story if it didn't end in a pre-determined way, sports-wise. That's nothing to hold against it.<P>★★★★☆

  • June 11, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Col., parts of The Host were just laughable

    by Stabby

    If it had been a straight horror film instead of including all the slapstick humor it could have been epic. The monster looked great and much of it was shot terrifically, like the scene under the bridge.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Rocky didn't end predicably

    by Stabby

    and it pulled out every cliche in the book up to the end.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Where has ole Star Hump been, anyway?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Russell Brand's Top 5 Favorite Films

    by Stabby

    5.Elephant Man 4.One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest 3.Life of Brian 2.Garage Girls 1.The Matrix

  • June 11, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Stabs, RE: ROCKY

    by Subtitles_Off

    The opposite of an unexpected ending can be just as forced and manipulative as a cliché.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Is that in honor of the World Cup starting today, Subs?

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST

    It just kind of coincidentally fell in place, Col.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I didn't plan it.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST

    is the World Cup over yet?

    by STLost

    I'm already sick of it.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST

    ikiru was way too low on that list too..

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST

    rashomon too.

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Fuck a World Cup...When does football start?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Amen, ST.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Hey, Cheeses.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Are you up for a bit of a chore today, Archival-ways?

  • June 11, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Amen, Cheeses.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Sure Subs... just point the way...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    We'll stop hearing about The World Cup as soon as

    by Subtitles_Off

    The U.S. has been eliminated.<P>Now we know how the rest of the world regards The Super Bowl and The World Series.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:35 p.m. CST

    You mean REAL fotball, Cheesy?

    by Stabby

    I just watched my Flyers lose the REAL cup. And the Phillies suck! I'm done with sports for awhile. Not looking forward to another season of Andy Reid.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:36 p.m. CST

    fotball?

    by Stabby

    WUT T F?!

  • June 11, 2010, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Phillies should bounce back, Stabby.

    by ColonelFatheart

    And FUCK THE EAGLES.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    hmm...massa liked both 80s film reboots..

    by Six Demon Bag

    i usually like his reviews..

  • June 11, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Sorry, that was my inner Giants fan bursting out.

    by ColonelFatheart

    He's usually in hibernation until the new Madden comes out.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Cool, Cheeses. I e'd instructions.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Tengo el gato

    by TedKordLives

    en los pantalones.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Yep, Sixies, and, like Col. said

    by Subtitles_Off

    RIFFIFI is way too low, too.<P>And, as lots have said, AMELIE? Even if you adore that film. #2?<P>RINGU? Puh-leeze!

  • June 11, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    im at work

    by Six Demon Bag

    and every once and a while you'll hear screams and groans from the people watching it on the 'puters.<P>when they are supposed to be working. who am i to complain, i talk to you guys all day. <P>its hilarious.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:43 p.m. CST

    PINGU? oh...RINGU.

    by STLost

    *goes back to work*

  • June 11, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST

    oh i agree no way in hell should it be #2

    by Six Demon Bag

    no way!

  • June 11, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Two games today.

    by ColonelFatheart

    The first one ended in a 1-1 tie. <p>The second ended in a 0-0 one.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Here's the obvious out-of-order listings, for me.

    by Subtitles_Off

    ↑↑↑↑↑↑<br> RAN<br> RIFIFI<br> CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON<br> PERSEPOLIS<br> IKIRU<P> ↓↓↓↓↓↓ BATTLE ROYALE<br> DELICATESSEEN<br> RINGU<br> DOWNFALL<br> SUSPIRIA<br> GODZILLA<br> OLDBOY<br> PAN'S LABYRINTH (I love it but too high)<br> BATTLESHIP POTEMKIN (ditto, above - more of an historical treasure than a top 5 film of all time)<br> AMELIE (I'll beat that dead horse)<P> Besides, where are the films of Ozu? Where's SONGS FROM THE SECOND FLOOR?

  • June 11, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Col...sorry I missed those

    by STLost

    epic matches. 1-1!!! 0-0!!!

  • June 11, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST

    gina curano in the new soderbergh film?

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST

    wow

    by TedKordLives

    Those games sound like real thrill-rides.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST

    ¿Por qué

    by Subtitles_Off

    usted tiene gatos en sus pantalones, Peluche?

  • June 11, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Láncelos

    by Subtitles_Off

    antes de que le rasguñen donde usted orina.

  • June 11, 2010, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Come on, guys.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Futbol is a low scoring sport. That doesn't mean the games lack excitement.<P>Would you say a Super Bowl that ended 14-7 necessarily lacked thrills? Of course not.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:01 p.m. CST

    This is true, Subs.

    by ColonelFatheart

    I love me a good low-scoring baseball game, too. <p>I just find soccer generally boring, regardless of how relatively exciting it may be.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:01 p.m. CST

    And how is TOKYO STORY not on that list?

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 4:02 p.m. CST

    it is at 16

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Exactly, Col.

    by Subtitles_Off

    TOKYO STORY!!!!<P>And, sorry, but you can't limit Fellini, Bergman, and Herzog to one film apiece.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Waitaminute, TOKYO STORY is on there.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Too low @ #16.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:06 p.m. CST

    And Fellini is on there more than once.

    by Subtitles_Off

    OK. But AMARCORD belongs on there, too.<P>I'll now go check to see if it is. HA!

  • June 11, 2010, 4:06 p.m. CST

    8.5 is too low on that list too.

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 4:07 p.m. CST

    FITZCARRALDO, too.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST

    I'd put M higher than METROPOLIS, myself.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST

    TOKYO STORY is too low at 16.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST

    I do like that BATTLE OF ALGIERS is so high.

    by ColonelFatheart

    I might put that right behind AGUIRRE as my top non-English flick.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Seis: cincuenta y uno: dieciocho

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 4:13 p.m. CST

    You could switch #2 and #16, and I'd

    by Subtitles_Off

    probably let you slide (even though I think that's still too high for youknowwhat).

  • June 11, 2010, 4:14 p.m. CST

    I love THE SPIRIT OF THE BEEHIVE being on the list.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I'm just glad it wasn't ignored.<P>And I'm tickled to see WAGES OF FEAR so high.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:14 p.m. CST

    i knew this list would get your respective goats..

    by Six Demon Bag

    i saw #2 and i knew i would post the list..<P>i mean thats ballsy..to have seven samurai and then amelie..de balls

  • June 11, 2010, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Just goofin, Subby.

    by TedKordLives

    Tryin ta kill the pain.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:18 p.m. CST

    I wish some love'd been shown to my other favorite

    by Subtitles_Off

    non-English animated films, PORCO ROSSO and LES TRIPLETTES DE BELLEVILLE.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:19 p.m. CST

    ¿Qué dolor, mi amigo?

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Putting SEVEN SAMURAI at No. 1 is almost like

    by ColonelFatheart

    putting CITIZEN KANE on top of the Sight and Sound poll, a veritable cineaste cliche. <p>And, you know what? I'm completely cool with that. I'm glad Empire didn't get TOO iconoclastic for its own good. (Beside putting fucking AMELIE at No. 2, that is.)

  • June 11, 2010, 4:23 p.m. CST

    OLDBOY in the Top 20 is an affront

    by Subtitles_Off

    against < P >. Aside from the undeniable corridor scene, that wretch is mere bits and pieces.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Life shit.

    by TedKordLives

    Nuff said.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Most, if not all...

    by TedKordLives

    ...of my favorite foreign language films involve lots of punching and kicking, so I'm pretty useless here.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:31 p.m. CST

    yeah where the fuck is STORY OF RICKI??

    by Six Demon Bag

  • June 11, 2010, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Aaron Johnson and Anton Yelchin also on Spidey

    by ColonelFatheart

    shortlist, according to slashfilm.com.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:32 p.m. CST

    You know, I was never a fan of Whitney Houston's, but

    by Subtitles_Off

    the glee with which her fall from grace is being reported kind of shocks me.<P>She's pitchy? Madonna's never been anything on-stage but pitchy.<P>Beyonce lip-synchs, fer chrissy sakes.<P>I'm not saying it isn't unwise to try to "comeback" when you can't hit the high notes, but what good can come from beating a dog with broken hind legs?

  • June 11, 2010, 4:34 p.m. CST

    They want her dead so they can deify her?

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Aaron Johnson almost plays like an old man

    by Subtitles_Off

    compared to some of those other names.<P>I mean, they all might be the same age, as far as I know, but dude already shaves.<P>Anybody remember Ess' personal fave's name? Has he gotten a look-at?

  • June 11, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST

    STORY OF RICKY FTW!

    by TedKordLives

    Seriously demented film. Love it.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    No idea what Ess' choice was.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 4:43 p.m. CST

    For that matter, Stabs,

    by Subtitles_Off

    BIN-JIP could go on that list instead of a number of those.<P>AU REVOIR L'ENFANTS<P><P>L'ENFANT or LE FILS<P>DIABOLIQUE

  • June 11, 2010, 4:46 p.m. CST

    I like Yelchin. I think he could pull it off.

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST

    I love how none of us even touched the issue of

    by Subtitles_Off

    GODZILLA being on that list. As if it didn't happen as long as we don't mention it.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Teddy,

    by Subtitles_Off

    what did you get last night at the funny book store? Anything worth mentioning?

  • June 11, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Yelchin was one of the things I liked in

    by Subtitles_Off

    DAWSON'S TREK. I never saw CHARLIE BARTLETT, and I know there was some stink lingering around that film, but I don't think said offense has anything to do with him.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Oldboy is disturbing... But its great.

    by D.Vader

    Its disturbing like an old Greek Tragedy is. I think its a great film.

  • June 11, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Another Clouzot: LE CORBEAU

    by ColonelFatheart

  • June 11, 2010, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Secret Six-Terrific.

    by TedKordLives

    Avengers Academy-Ok for a first issue. <P> Hawkeye & Mockingbird-The same.

  • June 11, 2010, 5 p.m. CST

    I got

    by Subtitles_Off

    JONAH HEX and a HELLBOY trade.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Cool Beans.

    by TedKordLives

    I had to pick up the new Hawkeye series. It's...it's been too long. I missed the guy. Sure, he was running around with a sword and nunchucks, but it's not the same.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Avengers Academy

    by TedKordLives

    The central premise is pretty interesting, and I like Christos Gage as a writer, so I'll probably stick with it for awhile. Plus, it's where Pym ended up after Siege, and I love me some Hank Pym action.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:10 p.m. CST

    You can probably tell me.

    by Subtitles_Off

    What is "The Heroic Age?"

  • June 11, 2010, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Well, Pally.

    by TedKordLives

    It's the new 'branding' of the Marvel U, like the flip side of Dark Reign. Not so much a story, more like a banner to let you know where you stand. <P> Basically, it's a way to make every title part of an 'event'. Or a non-event. <P> Ok, it's shameless pandering, that's what it is.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:14 p.m. CST

    I've not seen that one, Col.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Oh, so Dark Reign has ended then?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Everything back in its place?

  • June 11, 2010, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Yep.

    by TedKordLives

    Osborn's in jail, Sentry's dead (It seems one blow from Thor turns Marvel's Superman into a skeleton), and Steve Rogers is the new top cop. Have you seen his new 'costume'? It's silly and I don't like it.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Okay fellas. I'm gonna roll out.

    by ColonelFatheart

    Have a great weekend, fellas.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:24 p.m. CST

    And remember:

    by ColonelFatheart

    Keep fuckin' that chicken.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:25 p.m. CST

    I haven't really, but I heard he's just

    by Subtitles_Off

    running around in a version of Fury's old suit. So has he been "outed." Everybody knows he was "Captain America," or no?<P>I did see something about one of the Fantastic Four being killed off. Don't they do that every other year?

  • June 11, 2010, 5:26 p.m. CST

    I was told Sentry's killed off so

    by Subtitles_Off

    Miracle Man can take his place.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Bye, Col.!

    by Subtitles_Off

    Have a great weekend yourself.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:27 p.m. CST

    You mean the general public?

    by TedKordLives

    I don't think so. Prolly within the hero communtity and SHIELD. <P> Really, do an goog image search for Secret Avengers Steve Rogers. I wanna hear your opinion of Commander Rogers' new duds.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Later Colon-El

    by TedKordLives

  • June 11, 2010, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Where can I find a pic Ted?

    by D.Vader

    I'm having a hard time finding Cap's new outfit. But he's not Cap anymore right?

  • June 11, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Oh now you tell us what to google

    by D.Vader

    Thanks.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    That makes sense, about MM and Sentry.

    by TedKordLives

    But the last thing Marvel needs is a Superman. Didn't the whole Sentry fiasco teach them anything?

  • June 11, 2010, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Hey at least its giving Moon Knight something to do!

    by D.Vader

  • June 11, 2010, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Subs, Project complete and waiting in mailbox...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Chain mail and straps!

    by Subtitles_Off

    Without red and white stripes or a mask. <P>Granted can't really see it all that well in the images that came up.<P>My overall impression is "blah."

  • June 11, 2010, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Cap's goin' S&M on us?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    So, is it known, generally,

    by Subtitles_Off

    that it's a different Captain America running around. I mean, I guess, how did they explain his return from the dead?

  • June 11, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    That was quick, Cheeses.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Does he have The Comedien's mask, too?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    You know, the one they TOTALLY left out of the WATCHMEN movie...

  • June 11, 2010, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Found some more stuff, too, Subs...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 5:37 p.m. CST

    I guess, Teddy, his new duds

    by Subtitles_Off

    don't offend me nearly as much as the new Cap costume.<P>Offend's not the right word, either. I just hate the black and the "V" shape.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Steve Rogers as Billy Pilgrim, basically.

    by TedKordLives

    Without the time vagina.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:38 p.m. CST

    I really tried to get into the new Moon Knight.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I just couldn't.<P>Have they fired David Finch yet?

  • June 11, 2010, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Nightcrawler is DEAD?!?

    by D.Vader

    WTF?

  • June 11, 2010, 5:40 p.m. CST

    GAWD, the whole Batman thing really is just a direct cop,

    by Subtitles_Off

    isn't it? With just extra added suck.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Marvel & DC:

    by TedKordLives

    Racing to rip each other off. <P> It just occurred to me & Starman last night that the whole Osborn as top cop was a total ripoff of the whole President Luthor business. <P> Shit like this kills my passion for comics.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Don't worry, Vades. He'll be back.

    by TedKordLives

    Some-fucking-how. <P> And isn't it odd to see Moon Knight on a team? They got the crazy fucker in the pure white costume to join their espionage team? Tactical genius, that Rogers.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Vades, don't read if you don't wanna know, RE:Nightcrawler

    by Subtitles_Off

    SPOILERNightcrawlerSPOILERSPOILERdiedSPOILERSPOILERinSPOILERaSPOILERBAMF!SPOILERSPOILERaccidentSPOILERwithSPOILERhisSPOILERownSPOILERSPOILERarmSPOILERorSPOILERlegSPOILERSPOILERthroughSPOILERSPOILERhisSPOILERSPOILERchestSPOILER

  • June 11, 2010, 5:45 p.m. CST

    RASHOMAN > SEVEN SAMURAI

    by Continentalop

    I love Seven Samurai, and yes the plot seriously influenced a lot of movies, but the term "Rashoman" has basically entered the lexicon as the concept of people seeing things differently. Plus it led to one of the greatest Simpsons jokes ever: <P> Marge: C'mon, Homer, Japan will be fun. You like Rashomon. <P> Homer: That's not how I remember it.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:46 p.m. CST

    I went back to the Comic Shop last week...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Just for old times sake and found a couple Legion/Superboy things I wanted, even picked off the stand…then as I was standing in line, I was looking at the art, which wasn’t all that great in either book I had picked…then I thought, why am I spending almost $10 for what will be approximately 20 minutes of enjoyment…<p>I put them both down and walked out…I just couldn’t justify the expense…

  • June 11, 2010, 5:46 p.m. CST

    With just = just with

    by Subtitles_Off

    It just doesn't read correctly.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:48 p.m. CST

    'Lop, you and I are on a agreement

    by Subtitles_Off

    streak. Yes, RASHOMON > SEVEN SAMURAI, which tells you how great RASHOMON is, because SEVEN SAMURAI > anything.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:48 p.m. CST

    That's not quite right, Subby.

    by TedKordLives

    Not his, someone else's.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:51 p.m. CST

    I'm a firm believer that Marvel should have ended

    by Continentalop

    Shortly after Secret Wars I. Yes, there was some good stories after that, but Marvel was always built on the idea of a shared universe with continuity. Sooner of later it would just get to big and explode. <P> That is why I think after every comic book age you should just end the damn thing and come up with new characters. I don't care if we are on Flash IV of Earth 4, at least that way they can't really fuck up my favorite character because he lives in his own world. <P> Batman and Superman excepted from this rule.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Cheeses!

    by Subtitles_Off

    I responded with one final request.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:52 p.m. CST

    I like when we agree Subs

    by Continentalop

    It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. <P> Or maybe that is just the scotch.

  • June 11, 2010, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Someone else's?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Really??!!?<P>"Oh my god, Kurt!" screamed Angel.<P>"Eh," said Cyclops. "You should see the other guy."

  • June 11, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Scotch at 4 PM....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    A man after my own liver, ’Lop….’cept, Scotch? <p>Mmmm, I’ll stick to Crown…

  • June 11, 2010, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Yum, Scotch.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 5:59 p.m. CST

    You mean, 'Lop, the way DC did it after

    by Subtitles_Off

    Crisis On Infinite Earths. Or, do you mean wholly new characters?

  • June 11, 2010, 6 p.m. CST

    More like, Alan Scott becomes Hal Jordan.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 6 p.m. CST

    Yep. (SPOILERS]

    by TedKordLives

    Kurt got staked by a robot. Then BAMFed, taking the arm with him. <P> Gotta do some time on the floor. Back in an hour.

  • June 11, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Subby, Nightcrawler SPOILERS

    by D.Vader

    SPOILER! <p> I read that it wasn't his own arm, he teleported into an area where a villain knew he was going to be, and he teleported with the dude's arm going straight through his chest. Ouch.

  • June 11, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Subs, I mean more like 1951

    by Continentalop

    When you let the thing just die off gracefully and then relaunch it after a short 4 or five year break with new characters (even if they are based on old characters). <P> The old Earth 1 & 2 thing, as corny as it was, was the best thing in DC.

  • June 11, 2010, 6:03 p.m. CST

    The Alan Scott to Hal Jordan thing Subs

    by Continentalop

  • June 11, 2010, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Yep, vades. That's what Teddy confirms. SPOILERS

    by Subtitles_Off

    I only looked at the panel. I didn't read the book. It looked to me like it was his own.<P>Like the yolk broke when it BAMFed.

  • June 11, 2010, 6:07 p.m. CST

    'Lop, I'd be cool with that.

    by Subtitles_Off

    As long as the two worlds weren't made to simultaneously co-exist.<P>I'd think, though, it'd be impossible to pull off now, with the competitive nature of things.<P>Kill off your "sorceror," for instance; the other guy will just beat you to it before you get back with their "wizard."

  • June 11, 2010, 6:09 p.m. CST

    But, anyway, I prefer that 100X to

    by Subtitles_Off

    LEGACY. Legacy diminishes everybody. batman's the greatest detective, well, until somebody else puts on the suit - then, he's the greatest.

  • June 11, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Earth 1 & 2...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I totally agree, ‘Lop…they kept saying how hard it was for fans to figure out, and I was like What? It made perfect sense to me and did even when I was a kid…what was so hard to understand…I actually dug that E-2 had had it’s heroic age in WW2 and ‘our’ world was just time synced differently (here Kal El’s rocket landed in the 50’s instead of the 20’s)…I miss that…

  • June 11, 2010, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Did you see DiDio relented and let them bring

    by Subtitles_Off

    back the Elseworlds logo?

  • June 11, 2010, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Kill off, I meant "end the story"

    by Subtitles_Off

    GAWD. All this death! Now they've got me doing it!<P>A hero's story should NEVER end in death. Well, that's not true , either.<P>A hero's story should never end with the hero on his knees in failure.<P>That's not what comics need to be about. You got Life for that.

  • June 11, 2010, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Have you guys seen the new Aqualad?

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Sorry, forgot the link.

    by Subtitles_Off

    http://tinyurl.com/2bpc5lo

  • June 11, 2010, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Good lord..."Glee" @ Comic-Con.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Who is he, Black Manta's Son?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Black manta IS a black guy, right...that's how you can tell, when they are called 'Black Something'...

  • June 11, 2010, 6:39 p.m. CST

    I dunno who he is. I would hope he's Manta's son.

    by Subtitles_Off

    At least that would be a story-based reason. You know, as opposed to a rapper who swims. Or a Rastafarian who escaped after being swallowed whole by a magical whale.<P>Or something like that.

  • June 11, 2010, 6:40 p.m. CST

    I'm dying to know what the new Bat character

    by Subtitles_Off

    coming out of Brightest Day will be.<P>Just so I can get the shock and horror of it out of the way quicker.<P>Maybe it will be a sentient human-size time vagina.

  • June 11, 2010, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Hugo Strange is back alive?

    by Subtitles_Off

    One of you comics guys is going to have to explain that to me.

  • June 11, 2010, 6:55 p.m. CST

    SUbs, hero life ending in death

    by Continentalop

    Only works once in awhile. The noble sacrifice. It should be used very, very sparingly. <P> I prefer the Sherlock Shadow/Doc Savage method. There time is over and we never know what happened or how they met there end. If the Shadow was a historical figure, sure people would know he is dead by now, but since we never know how or when he died he is forever in the past, immortal. <p> The only characters I want dead right now are the JSA and any Golden Age hero. I know JSA is supposed to be a good comic but let those guys rest in piece. They've done the good fight, no need to keep dragging them back into this. Plus they are WWII vets, how many of them are still around fighting crime?

  • June 11, 2010, 7:07 p.m. CST

    I cannot wait...

    by TedKordLives

    ...for that DCU MMORPG thingie to come out later this year. I'm going to play it specifically to hunt and torture the new Blue Beetle. <P> Should be fun.

  • June 11, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Since we're talking legacies and everything.

    by TedKordLives

    Uh, sorta.

  • June 11, 2010, 7:11 p.m. CST

    RE:JSA

    by Subtitles_Off

    I believe all the old guys have been replaced by "legacies," with the possible exception of Ted Grant.

  • June 11, 2010, 7:14 p.m. CST

    if I knew what you were refering to, Teddy,

    by Subtitles_Off

    I'd join you to kill Dick and Damian.<P>And Batwoman, and Batgirl, too, while I'm at it, though I promise I won't enjoy that, because that would be creepy.

  • June 11, 2010, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Subs, there's a Virgin to touch in your mailbox...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Allow me to clarify, then.

    by TedKordLives

    Later this year, a game will be released for the PC and PS3 that is, essentially, World of Warcraft in the DCU. You create a character (you can't play as any established DC characters) and then go out into the big open world of the DCU. You even decide whether you wanna be good or evil. <P> Think about the possiblities- YOU could join Flash's Rogues and do coke with Mirror Master. YOU could peek up Wonder Girl's skirt at Titans Tower. <P> But I don't think Dick & Damien are gonna be the dynamic duo in the game. Batwoman & Batgirl are confirmed.

  • June 11, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Here's a list of confirmed characters :

    by TedKordLives

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Universe_Online

  • June 11, 2010, 7:28 p.m. CST

    Jebus, even it has The Ventriloquist.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Sounds like fun.

  • June 11, 2010, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Yeah, it sounds cool.

    by TedKordLives

    Like, you can affiliate yourself with established groups and hang out with them. Or just go solo. <P> I'm seriously gonna torture the fuck outta Jaime Reyes, even tho he'll just be a computer program. I think I'll call myself The Debaser. Hasn't been used yet.

  • June 11, 2010, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Cheeses.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 7:52 p.m. CST

    What is "Debaser" in Spanish?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Hmm?

  • June 11, 2010, 7:54 p.m. CST

    I dunno...

    by TedKordLives

    El Debasero?

  • June 11, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Opposite to blue on the color wheel, I think,

    by Subtitles_Off

    is yellow. El Amarillo Rebajado is literally, The Yellow Debased. That would freak that Jaime kid out of his pantalones.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST

    I like it.

    by TedKordLives

    But I may just keep it simple. Red Beetle or something....

  • June 11, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST

    There's an interview with this

    by Subtitles_Off

    Hayward dope in this month's issue of JONAH HEX. They reduced the story size of the comic to fit in 4 pages of it and 6 pages of the ugly, lousy RED HOOD preview. Anyway, this interview makes me even more worried about that movie than the trailer. The knob spends nearly half of it, talking about how a film today could never be paced like UNFORGIVEN or the Sergio Leone films. "Maybe with a smaller picture, but not with a film this size... So you can use the style and a lot of the swagger, but essentially you have to cut it like an action picture."<P>Who makes these rules? Where is this shit carved in stone?

  • June 11, 2010, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Truly

    by TedKordLives

    We live in frightening times.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Now that you mention it...

    by TedKordLives

    It seemed like all my comics this week had 6-8 pages of crap at the end. Even if I'm still getting the same amount of story (I didn't count the pages), I feel cheated outta more possible story.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:27 p.m. CST

    I know HEX was reduced.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I got two very short stories - one good, one utterly useless, and the rest was this "infotisement" sh!t. I didn't count to see if they had increased page count, but it didn't seem as if they did.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:28 p.m. CST

    I forgive that kind of thing in "independent" books.

    by Subtitles_Off

    But from a publisher owned by Warner Brothers or Disney? No way.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:29 p.m. CST

    New BP Logos...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    http://www.rense.com/general91/newbp.htm

  • June 11, 2010, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Nice, Cheeses.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • June 11, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Alright, men. Here comes the lightning.

    by Subtitles_Off

    You know what that means for me.<P>Have a great night!<P>Teddy, if you don't stop by over the weekend, I 'll type @ ya next week.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST

    See ya after the storm, Subs....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Later Subby.

    by TedKordLives

    Heya Cheeses.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:50 p.m. CST

    HHAAAA!

    by TedKordLives

    Love the gas pump to the head logo.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Damn, Subs is gone. I guess I can only ask Cheeses an Ted

    by Continentalop

    And anyone else who is out there: <P> If you were editor of DC, with absolute control, what would you do right now? What would be your say top 10 list of goals you want to accomplish?

  • June 11, 2010, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Hey, Teddy...How's Austinville?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Hot.

    by TedKordLives

    And muggy. <P> Thinkin' about trying to catch a late showing of A-Team. That movie looks batshit crazy in the most awesomest way possible.

  • June 11, 2010, 8:57 p.m. CST

    Only me and Teddy?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Sorry we can't all be Subs...<p>Naw, just fuckin' with you 'Lop, I know what you mean...

  • June 11, 2010, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Well then....

    by TedKordLives

    I'd have to sit down and think about that, Conti, and I just can't right now. I'll hit you with that next time, pally...

  • June 11, 2010, 9:03 p.m. CST

    If I were editor of DC...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I would make every hero that existed prior to the first Crisis on Infinite Worlds wake up in a shower scene like the Man From Atlantis did on Dallas and realize that the last 25 + years were just a dream, blame it all on Dr. Destiny and retro boot it all from there…

  • June 11, 2010, 9:07 p.m. CST

    If I was in charge of Marvel...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I would put a bullet in my brain…

  • June 11, 2010, 9:13 p.m. CST

    hola

    by water_shit_anderson

    whats up fellows?

  • June 11, 2010, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Cheeses, you basically said what I was thinking

    by Continentalop

    I would say "What if we said that we've been following the wrong universe after Crisis? That isn't the universe that sprung out of crisis was "somewhere" else and you hadn't been following it?" <P> For Marvel I would say "Fuck it! People like big climatic events. Well we're going to give them the biggest one yet, and this time we are going to deliver on our usually false advertisement: "Nothing will be the same." <P> Marvel: End Times!

  • June 11, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Hey, Waterman....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 9:21 p.m. CST

    cheeseman

    by water_shit_anderson

    i really dig your artwork a lot! Do you still do much?

  • June 11, 2010, 9:21 p.m. CST

    'Lop, I thought the Ultimate Universe...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Was gonna be Marvel’s reset like the Golden to Silver Age of DC…but they lacked the balls to see it thru…

  • June 11, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Waterman...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Do I draw hot chicks? <p>No, I don't draw so much these days…I did a three page comic for a contest at work a year or two ago which won in our region, but nothing much since the invitation flyers of the late ‘90’s…an occasional sketch or two…Most of my better stuff is on paper way too big to scan…

  • June 11, 2010, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Holy shit, y'all. Why'd you move into this node?

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

    It doesn't even have a view.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:32 p.m. CST

    We didn't want Watch_The_World_Burn to get mad...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Yeah, but...

    by TedKordLives

    the ceilings are VERY high.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:32 p.m. CST

    You do. I would date them,

    by water_shit_anderson

    if they would let me. <p> You and flick and nilla should collaborate on a picture of gary oldman riding a unicycle backwards. We could put it on shirts.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Heya WateryPoo.

    by TedKordLives

    Bye WateryPoo. <P> Later gang, I'm off to see if my plan comes together.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Later, Teddy...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Waterman, T-shirts would ROCK!!!! I never thought about that…

  • June 11, 2010, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Since we're talking about LOST - food drop mystery

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

    OK. Several talkbackers have referenced the island's peculiar time differential to explain the food drop mystery (i.e. Faraday shot a clock-rocket up in the sky, it came back to island reading like a half-hour difference from Faraday's watch, so theoretically the food pallet from season 2 could have been dropped in the early 90's and arrived on the island in 2004). OK, but there is (at least) one issue with this explanation: why did the hatch in 2004 go into lockdown (because ostensibly the swan hatch goes into lockdown mode during a food drop) if the supplies were dropped at another time entirely?

  • June 11, 2010, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Just invented....

    by DoctorMoz

    .....a talkback id and wanted to use it. I have nothing interesting to say at this particular juncture.

  • June 11, 2010, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Crispy....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    You so CCCCRRRRRAAAAZZZZYYYY!!!!

  • June 11, 2010, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Use it or lose it, Doc...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    That’s what I always say, anyway…

  • June 11, 2010, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Hi Ted Bye Ted!!!

    by water_shit_anderson

  • June 11, 2010, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Watching a show about Sexsomniacs...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    People who sleep-fuck like some people sleep-walk….HHHHHAAAA!!!!

  • June 11, 2010, 9:56 p.m. CST

    They already covered female sex addicts …

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Women who are allergic to sperm, and Turrets of the genitals …what a great science program…

  • June 11, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    haha

    by water_shit_anderson

    thats ridiculous. Makes me miss having tv.

  • June 11, 2010, 10 p.m. CST

    well

    by water_shit_anderson

    i gotta peace out for now. I should be back on later.

  • June 11, 2010, 10 p.m. CST

    And what is the phone numbers of these women Cheeses

    by Continentalop

    Who sleep fuck? Let me grab a pencil...

  • June 11, 2010, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Later, Waterman...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Watch out for Turrets of the Genitals...

  • June 11, 2010, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Is it cool if I crash here for a while?

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

    I've been out of work for a while and the old lady and me are on the outs right now so is it cool if I just crash on your couch until I find a place?

  • June 11, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST

    I want to be a therapist...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    specializing in hot young female sex addicts...You know, weaning them off sex, gradually...

  • June 11, 2010, 10:09 p.m. CST

    You’re not a Sexsomniac Surprize Sexer, are you, Crispy?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 11, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Pope Begs for Forgiveness?

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I thought he was supposed to be infallible? Like Superman….<p>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100612/ap_on_re_eu/eu_vatican_priests

  • June 11, 2010, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Actually, I suffer from tourettes of the genitals

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

    My cock swears like a sailor at the most inappropriate times...but I have medicine.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Cheeses: there's circumstantial evidence of BP

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

    foreknowledge of disaster. What are the possible motives? Higher oil prices due to "shortage", carbon taxes, distraction from collapsing economy? And sadly I think "they" are going through with the Iran invasion soon.

  • June 11, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST

    HHHHAAAA!!!...That whole 'tourettes of the genitals' diagnosis..

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    sounds like an excuse for Nyphomaniacs...Masturbating 5 to 30 times a day...??? FUCK!!!

  • June 11, 2010, 10:29 p.m. CST

    I want to be The Rapist

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

    specializing in hot young female sex addicts! You know they want it!

  • June 11, 2010, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Sadly, Crispy...I agree...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    For one world government to work, all nations have to be equal. The US has to fall for the rest of the world to catch up to western post industrial civilization levels….Destroying 1/3 of our shoreline and it’s economy and food production while waging wars in Korea and Iran will be Check Mate for this chapter in North American history…

  • June 11, 2010, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Look, I'm all for global unity...

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

    I grew up on Star Trek:TNG and it's vision of a one world earth government that is part of a galactic U.N. peace-keeping bureaucracy...and that seems fine. But that is not what the NWO is setting up. Equality is great, but why do we all have to be brought down to the third-world level? Why can't we elevate the whole planet to first-world status?

  • June 11, 2010, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Crispy, as 'Lop once corrected me...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    It sounds a lot better in court if you say, “Your Honor, I didn’t rape her…it was just Surprise Sex…and, really, who doesn’t enjoy a little Surprise Sex now and then…”<p>See, what jury would convict you?

  • June 11, 2010, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Surprise Sex and the City

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

    That's an even better porno title than "Sex in her Shitty"!

  • June 11, 2010, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Crispy...it's the ultra wealthy's plan...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I don’t necessarily believe the One World Deal is Ideal…But, I’m not rich enough or connected enough to get a vote…It’s easier to control a world wide 3rd World population with modern mass media/internets which will never go away…It is the dream machine that guides and directs us…Herds us…

  • June 11, 2010, 10:57 p.m. CST

    Crispy...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    When people revere Fraternities above Nationality this happens …Global government went off the grid a long, long time ago. There are EXTREMELY wealthy and powerful people who have always viewed themselves as the stewards and undisputed, ordained rulers of the planet. The very formation of the United States and the fake ‘freedoms’ it symbolized that sparked revolutions world wide ever since was a part of the plan for the coming World Wars…

  • June 11, 2010, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Cheeses, I can see your point...

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

    though I do have a soft-spot of the freemasonic democratic ideals espoused beautifully by Jefferson (though there is no solid evidence that Jefferson was a freemason), and currently my political ideals are libertarian-constitutional restorationist (though I am not a "tea partier," fuck Glenn Beck controlled opposition mind control!). I'm a Ron Paul supporter and I think there is a resurgence of libertarian values going on right now. I maintain optimism that the New World Order will fail and that the chaos right now is the establishment reacting desperately against the awakening of the people. The night is darkest before the dawn, etc. I re-read 1984 a couple of months ago and upon this reading I got the impression that Orwell agrees with O'brien rather than Winston...during the interrogation chapters O'Brien can clearly read Winston's thoughts and espouses metaphysical assertions broaching solipsism and so on, and I agree with O'Brien that there is no hope in the proles.

  • June 11, 2010, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Tangentially: "Blade Runner"

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

    "Blade Runner" is my all-time favorite film and the last time I watched it I was bowled over by the illuminati symbolism (i.e. the juxtaposition of the un-capped pyramid with the eye in the opening sequence). "Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave."

  • June 11, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST

    AINT IT CONSPIRACY NEWS

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

    Now that I think about it, I should register that domain...

  • June 11, 2010, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Node 45444 is now leasing.

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

  • June 11, 2010, 11:22 p.m. CST

    I too, support Ron Paul...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    And, his quest to expose the Federal Reserve for what it is… a greedy group of Usury Lenders who profit from human pain and misfortune. <p>With GPS tracking in my cell phone and tracking of credit card and grocery card etc., and the Library of Congress archiving all Tweets, we are almost in Orwell’s Big Brother Economy…

  • June 11, 2010, 11:30 p.m. CST

    That fact that Paul was in the 08 debates is glimmer

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

    of hope. If it was a totally in control monolithic conspiracy Paul would never have been in the debates. Take it easy, Cheesy, I'm calling it a night. And remember what RAW says: http://www.youtube.com/wat ch?v=7v2XH2_x8GM

  • June 11, 2010, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Night Crispy...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I’m fucking up the furniture over at #45444....

  • June 11, 2010, 11:36 p.m. CST

    Maybe I'm late to the party...

    by Soundblaster

    ...but GODZILLA certainly does belong on that list. Who do you think funded all of those Kurosawa masterpieces?

  • June 11, 2010, 11:56 p.m. CST

    Hi, Soundblasterman...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I LOVE Gozilla, except when Ferris Bueller got involved…Probably the only non-kung-fu foreign movie I have ever seen...

  • June 12, 2010, 12:02 a.m. CST

    We are breaking this bitch in, Cheesy

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

    I don't think we're going to get our security deposit back. Shit; that's such a good joke I'm gonna post it in the other node.

  • June 12, 2010, 12:05 a.m. CST

    HHHHAAAA!!!! Crispy....

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 12, 2010, 12:09 a.m. CST

    BP = BARACK PROCRASTINATES

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

  • June 12, 2010, 12:10 a.m. CST

    BP = BANKERS PROFIT

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

  • June 12, 2010, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Nice...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    BP....Before Petrochemical-hell-on-Earth...

  • June 12, 2010, 12:12 a.m. CST

    2012 will be 2 BP...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

  • June 12, 2010, 12:23 a.m. CST

    Don't let Subs see or hear this!

    by Continentalop

    http://tinyurl.com/2dkrhna

  • June 12, 2010, 12:23 a.m. CST

    OK, I really do gotta stop now

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

    Nobody ever posts in those "winners lists" anyway, so maybe we will survive. If not, I shall return as MERRICK_IS_THE_RIDDLER.

  • June 12, 2010, 12:30 a.m. CST

    HHHHAAAA!!! Night Crispy...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    System froze up for a couple minutes...

  • June 12, 2010, 12:34 a.m. CST

    'Lop...I like the Chinese girls fingernails...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Reminds me of the first season of Dexter…

  • June 12, 2010, 12:35 a.m. CST

    See looks just like my ex-gf

    by Continentalop

    Except my ex was Mongolian, not Korean, and had a voice that was like fingernails over a chalkboard.

  • June 12, 2010, 12:42 a.m. CST

    I am not normally aroused by Asian women...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I mean, after Pearl Harbor, how can you trust them completely…<p>But that one is hot…

  • June 12, 2010, 1:15 a.m. CST

    If I disappear before I wake...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    You all know why...<p>I'll be BACK!!!!

  • June 12, 2010, 1:16 a.m. CST

    hola cheeesebro!

    by water_shit_anderson

  • June 12, 2010, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Hi, Waterman...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    I was watching the end of Lethal Weapon 4...It made me cry...all those babies...and Chris Rock...

  • June 12, 2010, 1:33 a.m. CST

    I haven't seen it.

    by water_shit_anderson

    I've seen none of the lethal weapons actually.

  • June 12, 2010, 1:34 a.m. CST

    Three Kings is on TNT...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Waht a bunch of partiers...

  • June 12, 2010, 1:36 a.m. CST

    Only Lethal Weapon 1 and 2 are worth watching...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Unless you like to cry...

  • June 12, 2010, 2 a.m. CST

    Okay, 3 Kings is boring me...

    by Cheeses_of_Nazareth

    Nytol, Y'all...

  • June 12, 2010, 2:10 a.m. CST

    Ten Minutes!??!

    by TedKordLives

    GOD DAMNIT! <P> If only that shit hadn't taken so long...

  • June 12, 2010, 2:12 a.m. CST

    Cheeses, come back!

    by TedKordLives

    I wanna tell you how awesome A-TEAM was!

  • June 12, 2010, 2:15 a.m. CST

    WateryPoo? Conti? WVades?

    by TedKordLives

    Why have my Cyber-Goonies forsaken me?

  • June 12, 2010, 2:18 a.m. CST

    If I had walked in the door and turned on the 'puter...

    by TedKordLives

    ...I'd be hanging with Cheeses. <P> But noooo, the buttery popcorn had to go and lube up my insides. <P> Fuck George Lucas.

  • June 12, 2010, 2:24 a.m. CST

    Just goofin'.

    by TedKordLives

    But really, fuck George Lucas.

  • June 12, 2010, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Hi ted!

    by water_shit_anderson

  • June 12, 2010, 3:02 a.m. CST

    *Ted waves*

    by TedKordLives

    The ship passes by.

  • June 12, 2010, 3:04 a.m. CST

    This is what I was doing.

    by TedKordLives

    http://tinyurl.com/2bcqetz <P> Particularly the Raiders, Steven Seagal and the PARALLAX VIEW clips. <P> I actually found that by looking up the mom from THE STUFF on IMDB.

  • June 12, 2010, 3:16 a.m. CST

    She was in DINER, oddly enough.

    by TedKordLives

    Great cast in that movie.

  • June 12, 2010, 3:18 a.m. CST

    Alan Moore is spinning in his coffin right now.

    by TedKordLives

    http://tinyurl.com/2vqepek <P> He does sleep in a coffin, right? <P>Well that's what I heard!

  • June 12, 2010, 3:37 a.m. CST

    That's from GHOSTBUSTERS.

    by TedKordLives

    That last part.

  • June 12, 2010, 4:04 a.m. CST

    I get to read 'Green Lantern' for free at work, and...

    by TedKordLives

    ...

  • June 12, 2010, 4:09 a.m. CST

    This is the Blue Beetle, signing off.

    by TedKordLives

    Monitor Duty is hereby passed off to the Tasmanian Devil.

  • June 12, 2010, 5:27 a.m. CST

    i attempted to make some pedalback shirts

    by water_shit_anderson

    < P > <p> http://tinyurl.com/29ttglq <p> Gary Oldman <p> http://tinyurl.com/2dsafww <p> Michael Caine <p> http://tinyurl.com/22or4bu <p> Batmanster <p> http://tinyurl.com/2c59e8z <p> disregard that pricing stuff on there i didn't make them to sell just to try to make some shirts.

  • June 12, 2010, 5:39 a.m. CST

    Woooohooooooooooooo

    by D.Vader

    I'm wasted and have been watching awesome episodes of Yacht Rock and Its Always Sunny in Philideplphia.

  • June 12, 2010, 6:17 a.m. CST

    Harpist Lucinda Belle?

    by D.Vader

    TOTALLY HOT.

  • June 12, 2010, 8:48 a.m. CST

    diarrhea!!!

    by Subtitles_Off