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Live in Chicago? Want to attend the exclusive AICN screening of TOY STORY 3 in IMAX 3-D? Capone has all the details!!!
Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here.
I'll be brief because not a lot needs to be said about this other than the fact that it is awesome. The folks at Pixar and Disney have always been gracious with out site about allowing our readers to preview their works early and in the best possible venues. And as long as I've been doing exclusive AICN screenings in Chicago, Pixar has been right there giving us the royal treatment with screenings of WALL-E and UP, and for that we are grateful.
It means a lot because for many of us, the early Disney animated films were our entry point into loving movies in general. My earliest memory of seeing a movie was a reissue of BAMBI when I was too young to tie my own shoes (probably in my teens or early 20s). And I'm sure all of us remember our reaction to seeing the revolutionary TOY STORY for the first time and realizing that something in the cinematic universe had shifted for the better. And now Disney/Pixar has done something remarkable for Chicago AICN readers.
This Chicago Ain't It Cool News screening of TOY STORY 3 (in 3-D!) will take place this Monday, June 14, 2010 at 7:00pm, at the IMAX Theater at Navy Pier. And we've got the entire theater (about 400 seats to fill).
And here's the even better part. Because I want to encourage families to come, each winner will be allowed to bring as many as THREE ADDITIONAL GUESTS (that's four total for those of you bad at math). Here's how to secure a pass good for you and up to three guests.
Send me an email at caponeTS3@aintitcoolmail.com (please note the new email address) with the subject line "NO TOY GETS LEFT BEHIND!" In the body of the email, I need your Name, the Number of Guests (up to 3) you'll be bringing (guests' names are NOT required), and the answer to the following question (read carefully): "Which TOY STORY character is your absolute favorite, and why?" Keep your responses BRIEF--limit your answers to 50 words or less (no matter how tempted you are to go over the limit). People with the most creative answers win, and will get an email from me over the weekend, as well as have their names posted on the site.
Please make sure all of your guests are confirmed before you enter the contest. People who show up without the number of guests they say they're bring will be given a nasty look.
Please keep in mind that although this is an exclusive AICN event, it is slightly overbooked to make sure there is a full house. If you cannot arrive at this screening early, please do not enter. If there's even the slightest chance you'll have to back out of attending if you do win, don't enter. If you have a job that might make you late or unable to attend, or an ill/pregnant relative, or a temperamental significant other, or a scratchy throat, do not enter. Anyone not showing up without informing me ahead of time so I can fill their seats runs the risk of getting blacklisted from future screening contests...it depends on my mood.
Good luck, everyone! And thanks to Disney/Pixar. for continuing this awesome tradition. This will be my first time seeing it as well, and I could not be more excited.
-- Capone
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Just sayin.<p>I'd settle for Baltimore or D.C.
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We never get any premiers!
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(typo: left out the second e)
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Bad typing day! :-P
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Where is it?
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Had a great time at the preview screening for "Alice in Wonderland" at Lincoln Center. Would love to see more previews in the Big Apple.
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Thank you Aint it cool news and Pixar/Disney!!!
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It couldn't have been "Toys, leave or get left behind" this one time?<P>Think of the children!
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100K772
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and i was trying to think of something too..<P>i had nothing.
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children go to your room.
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First you say, "Children go to your room." Then, you drop the b-bombs and the f-bombs.<P>When Li'l Demon runs up to a houseful of your guests and yells, "Bitches, leave, fukken Lucas!!", I don't want to hear you complain about it.
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June 10, 2010, 9:34 a.m. CST
I just learned yesterday that Michael Keaton is doing the voice
by Subtitles_Off
I'm out of the loop.
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Is it just me, or has the subject cut-off just gotten more and more arbitrary?
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...I said Kinks to Jonas Bros is a ridiculous comparison, and you know it it. Jonas Brothers are a Disney manufactured child band. That sort of shit existed back in the good'ol days too. "However you want to re-arrange the terms of the discussion so you come up on top, be my guest" <P> That's a little offensive. I consider Arcade Fire to be pop. Indie pop. I'm no musicologist, so I could be technically wrong, but that's the category in my head. It was an honest comparison. Much more so than you loving to put The Beatles and The Kinks up against the Jonas Brothers and Justin fucking Beeper.
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and the wife took away the crucifixes.
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I never compared The Kinks to The Jonas Brothers.<P>I compared "pop" to "pop."<P>I'm sorry I offended you, Flick. I really am. But I'm offended, too, to be asked "seriously, I really want to know" and then be told I'm "intellectually dishonest."<P>Are we going to hug this one out, or are we going to ram our little bumber cars into each other all day today, as well?
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i cant explain why i like gaga or katy perry. i just do.<P>its pop..POP is POP. its light, its fluffy its mindless.<P>the beatles (early), kinks, jobro, madonna, MJ, even some prince can be labeled POP<P>its easy and accessible but if you want something more, it can be found there too.<P>think of POP as a gateway drug to good deep music.
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June 10, 2010, 10:08 a.m. CST
..."We can argue forever over the idea that The Beatles...
by FlickaPoo
...and The Kinks or Creedence Clearwater Revival are comparable to The Jonas Brothers, Kanye West and Taylor Swift. I'll just never buy it."<P> Who would make such an argument? Not me. You're setting up heavyweights against straw men.<P> Don't worry, no Ramming Bumbercars.
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I tend to live in the past when it comes to my music. The music I grew up on (70s,80s,early 90s) and that's how I like it. If I happen to hear music nowadays that I like, I'll listen. It doesn't happen very often, though.
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I would. I was asked - "seriously, I want to know" - why I consider the "pop" of my time superior to the "pop" of today.<P> There's my answer. Maybe the use of the word "comparable" is the problem? <P>On the radio as "pop" when I was growing up, you heard The Beatles, The Kinks, Stevie Wonder, The Monkees, The Carpenters (there, I've thrown a couple of crappy ones in there for you) and Creedence Clearwater Revival. I haven't begun to scratch the surface, and, yet, it seems - to me, without the least concern whether you agree - that is a broad range of inarguable substance. Today's radio doesn't give you Arcade Fire unless you're hooked up to a satellite. Today's radio gives you The Jonas Brothers, Maroon5, Justin Bieber, Kanye West, Lady GaGa, whoever was on "American Idol" recently, and Taylor Swift. And I - again, with no need for confirmation - don't find any of it stimulating, in the least.<P>I understand you don't think The 60s are as great as everyone makes them out to be, just as you should understand I don't think today is nearly as fun or diverse as you want to believe it is. <P>That is, if you seriously want to know. If you want to be correct, you're going to have as hard a time convincing me as I am going to have convincing you.
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...that's a pretty specific complaint. Radio is the barometer of an entire culture?<P> That's pretty arbitrary...why not ham radio? Why not the quality of content and energetic style of telegraph messages? <P> Everybody knows radio as a music delivery service sucks these days...who gives a shit?<P> And for the record, I've never said contemporary music is better than music in the 60s. Rock was young, of course it was more vibrant. My argument was that there's a life cycle to these things and you have to let it go...and that constantly proclaiming that everything was great and now everything is terrible....and singling out crap like Justin Beebler as your EXIBIT A is <P> 1- insulting to people younger than you, and <P> 2- tedious
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I think web communites and online radio and podcasts have drawn the audiences away from wave radio stations.<P> The Web has created such oppurtunity for diversity (from sexual fetishes to music) that there<P> is no need or opportunity for the Beatles or whoever to sweep the nation off its feet. <P>Thank you for the Jersey Girl lyrics Mr. Off. That's a great song even in text form.
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Can we not let sleeping POP dogs lie today? We have a guest...Hello, 5man...welcome to the Pedalback...
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It's Cheeses, Subs and Flick...Mr. Off was Sub's dad...
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...(Peebing Tom?)
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June 10, 2010, 11:07 a.m. CST
'Noe' need for proper spelling either, appparently...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
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shame tho, Mr. Nazareth is a totally kickass handle.
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June 10, 2010, 11:16 a.m. CST
"I was under the impression that you were a man who could bite h
by Hi5Effect
Mr. Nazareth said, his voice sounding like garbage truck with a muffler problem.<P>"I was, I mean I am, I swear I am Mr. Nazareth. I didn't say a goddam ting, I swear." <P> The kid looked like he was going to piss himself, probably was too, when Mr. Nazareth starts in on a man, they always piss themselves.
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hi Hi5
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!@#$Fing title fomrat bullshit...
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civil duel.
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Holy shit. I love the inclusion of Agent James T. West, but I'm especially digging the Valley of Gwangi.<p> This comic book series would rock so fucking hard.
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June 10, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST
I was just thinking that BP should use it's time machines...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
to assemble their own catstraphe Ass Kickers...Jacques Cousteau, Aquaman, Red Adair, and the 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' crew...
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I'm fucking pissed. That's $2150 out of my pocket this month. Time to file for unemployment.
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The more he does, the more I believe he's not really that good of a filmmaker. Or an original storyteller. At all. Just another gun for hire.
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mentioned here at AICN?<p> http://www.aintitcool.com/n ode/45423
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http://tinyurl.com/35ujeef
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June 10, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST
Calvin Klein's Obsesion for Men..not only good for attrackting..
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
'cougars' but scientists are using it to trap Jaguars...<p>http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100610/od_nm/us_jaguars_calvinklein
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Fukken  ‍‍‍‍<br>great!
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is it one way?
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SOMEBODY at NASA is HIGH!!!<p>http://tinyurl.com/26ghmt8
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I can't believe I forgot Brisco County Jr. Fuck me.
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Fuck Lucas!!!
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You doin' alright?
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i'm pretty swell. Hows about you?
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what up?
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Not up to very much. Its been pretty nice recently so i've been having some camp fires evening times. What have you guys been doing?
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safe in the knowledge that only he can fuck an entire generation out of their childhood....<p>"HaHaHa..." he laughs, wiping his dick across Harrison Ford's lips...
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Zorro. Gotta have a Mexican in there.
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Sounds fucking terrible. A stupid ripoff of Fantastic Mr. Fox. Fuck those involved.
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When California was still owned by Spain. I should make a 1829 Ass Kickers Team. <P> And I did have a Mexican - the Cisco Kid!
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like a tortilla and fuck the shit outta it!<P>HIAWATHA!!<P>HIAWATHA!!
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sorry i still haven't answered that other one, being rather sloth like..
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To have survived for millennium, ugly as they are.
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That makes me happy. Especially since you did not include James Rockford in Team 1979.
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I don't have any newer ones from you besides the pantheon one from a few days ago.
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With some Bowie attached.
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pretty weak.
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but it was just a little off.
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June 10, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST
something must have gone wrong during subspace delivery
by water_shit_anderson
i don't see it, rats
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I'm with you on that one.
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June 10, 2010, 1:29 p.m. CST
Well, I'll send it again, if it doesn't show up in a minute.
by Subtitles_Off
It can be summed up, thusly: "I'm not doing nothing. Thanks for asking."
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i was very impressed. I think its the most high quality non-miniseries tv show i've ever seen.
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I've got one to recommend ya.
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What do you recommend?
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BLACK SWAN GREEN. It's a British coming-of-ager, about a stuttering thirteen-14 year-old in Thatcher's England. Really creative use of slang and an easy read. I've only had three short sessions with it, and I'm 20-or-so pages from the end.
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So far I got Henry Chinaski, Henry MIller, Dean Martin, Arthur Bach, Bender the Robot, Barney Gumble, André the Giant, Raul Duke and Winston Churchill
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hopefully my library has it. I haven't been to the library in years.
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I don't get it. <p> thanks yahoo.
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Andre the Giant was a drinker?
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Supposedly because of his size it took him enormous quantities to get drunk.
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to see Adam West, Capt. Picard and Bruce Campbell. I never go to this type of $hit, but what a line up. Now, if I can only find someone to go with.
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Andre's always ribbing the others over the quantity that gets 'em hammered.<P>Andre the Giant drinking Winston Churchill under the table. HA!<P>But, they're all from different time periods. Which drunk time-traveler did they nick the tech off of?
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He could definitely hold his own among the rank of the Ultimate Ass Kicker Drinking Team.
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Will he be insulted or flattered to be turned into a fictional character?
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Those guys drank a lot in that movie, I imagine.
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Reverend Jim Ignatowski and a certain time traveling Delorean.
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On account of all the drinking?
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Peace!
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Have a great evening.
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THE AZTECS<P>FIRST DOCTOR--STORY 6--Though this isnt the first story arc, it was the first available so here it is.<P>The Doctor and the gang timewarp to the aztec times and are immediately taken to be outsiders and/or gods. One of the girls in the group (which consists of a strapping young lad, the doc, and two girls), wearing a charm bracelet EXACTLY like the natives deity does, is mistaken for her.<P>hijinks ensue and the doctor is weary of trying to change the future, whereas the "diety" girl decides to save people from being sacrificed to appease the sun. will she succumb to her destiny or shut the hell up and listen to the doctor?<P>basically its the generic time travel DONT CHANGE THE FUTURE set up, but i'll give it a pass because this is really old and it might be the first time the plotline has been used.<P>technical aspects are less endearing..its strictly amateur hour and the strength of the acting is on par with the background characters of STAR TREK. but this is one of the first story arcs, so i'll see if it gets better. I wont lie, i was entertained and the shoddy production didnt wear out its welcome, but this is gonna be a rough haul if it doesnt get better.<P>NEXT UP--THE DALEKS
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Sumptimes mail is slothlike, too.
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it's low-tech, to be sure. Probably until the contemporary re-boot.
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Sorry I included you in that post yesterday. I wasn't implying that your daughter was a stripper only that you would be cool with it if she were, which I find very enlightened of you and personally fascinating. I'm kind of a prude myself as you know. We've discussed similar topics before. Sounds like you're a great dad and you got a cool daughter. Just keep her away from D.Vader and that creepy stalker epic email writer.
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I have certainly discouraged pole dancing, but once she thought she would get me riled up by declaring she got a job as a waitress in a strip bar, but instead of being mad I was "Way to go..."<p>She got so mad and went to screaming how I was a terrible dad, so I told her it was that or find another job...which she did...I know her a lot better than she knows herself...
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God bless your demonic soul.
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back in a flash...
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I stard'd a TARD'D thread youknowwhere. Hope you don't mind.
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Post 'em there, too, if you feel like it. That way I won't miss any.
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what the hell was i thinking?
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"Lettuce see how much sci-fi I can cram into my nog at once."<P>Or, you were thinking, "Man, if I commit to all of this, Subs won't be after me to watch PATHS OF GLORY."
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defintely..<P>oooh and i need to watch ALIENS sometime.
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June 10, 2010, 2:47 p.m. CST
are we gonna shoot for a liveblog of ALIENS anytime soon?
by Six Demon Bag
cause id be so down for that..
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PATHS OF GLORY, too.
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The Hallowed Halls Of The Pedalback...<p> Are we lucky few at 10,000 yet?<p> Has Godzilla finally trashed Tokyo? And who made that legendary post?
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on vacation and just finished my first beer...You?
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And it was Ess, and, afterwards, she opened her blouse and released butterflies.<P>We thought for sure you'd sense it from wherever you were.
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especially when you get to the Dominion War...
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Ben "The Drunk" Franklin. Founding member.
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Unless it's on TV sometime this month.
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Ha! I just read in the previous thread that guy who wrote 1000 carefully-considered words about why we shouldn't be Pedalbacking...<p> Hilarious. What a knobhead. We should make him an honorary Peeber for his troubles.
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100,000!! (what's a 0 between buddies)...<p> I hope due reverence was paid... Subs do you have the time that it happened i'd like to reeeewind to that moment.
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Was he a black boxer in disguise? Or a former PBer? Or a current PBer playing devil's advocate?
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remind you that simply by joining up @ The Shelter, all this information and more would be right at the tips of your own finger, and, then, since I don't want to be considered a harpie, I'll share...<P>100,000th post:<br> aintitcool.com/talkback_display/45364#comment_3385693 <P> Pedalback stats @ 100K: <br> aintitcool.com/talkback_display/45364#comment_3385775
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you get this collectors plate free*<P>the plate is a character likeness of all the peebrews gathered around a table ala LAST SUPPER gazing upon the queen Ess as she unfurls the butterflies.<P><P><br>*2.95 shipping and handling.
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That'll snare him, fer shure.
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cool exterior.
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well, like Cheese.<P>You mean Hi5, or watch_the_world_burn, or Winona_Ryder's_Cock_Shaped_Helmet?<P>I don't know what's up with any of them.
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You said he chapped your hide, though.
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That's the way you're supposed to be.
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100,000 - I'd like to say a few words...<p> When the original 'Gary Oldman Back Pedals' thread began on the long crawl towards 1,000 to 2,000 and upwards I thought to myself here we go this is the Baleback all over again.<p> But I honestly didn't think it would make 10,000 let alone 100,000. There just wasn't enough funny material in the subject (after all Bale's rant had plenty to sink your comedic teeth into)...<p> But things here were progressing in a different way. Not better or worse, just different. And as the Pedalback has progressed it's taken on a level of diversity and depth unlike any other thread this site's ever seen. We've told Stories, we've live-blogged... we've officialised the Peebers and welcomed new ones... we've got Alfie's and Hoagies and a Pantheon... some guy some other guy and a load of reviews... we've got Subbarys and post counts and a feeling of purpose behind the randomness... but most of all we have camaraderie. The kind of comrade-ship that only develops when a bunch of guys (and girl) talk shit with each other for over 300 days.<p> So bravo to 100,000. And bravo to all of you. It's been a pleasure. (shakes hands in manly way with all Peebers).
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I would also throw in Vern Troyer and Hank the Angry Dwarf just because it will be visually amusing to see them standing next to Andre the Giant. Also, they're both major alcoholics.
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Manly pat on the back to you - not on the arse, although that's the way the rugby and football players do it.
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When a dangerous crisis pops up and the Ass-Kicker Squad already on a mission to rescue the USS Montana in the Cayman Trough, Colonel Sam Trautman has no choice but turn to Edna Garrett for help. Despite the fact that her last team’s mission ended tragically, Edna sets out to procure the services of her old comrade-now suicidal ex-junkie Kimberly Drummond, Dorothy "Tootie" Ramsey (last survivor of Edna’s old team), pugnacious Penelope “Punky” Brewster, “small wonder” Victoria "Vicki" Ann Smith-Lawson a.k.a V.I.C.I (Voice Input Child Identicant), and human/Visitor hybrid Elizabeth Maxwell. Edna has the girls flown out on the hi-tech helicopter the Airwolf to an Antarctic research station where nefarious Texas oil tycoon J.R. Ewing has accidentally revived some...thing...that is capable of absorbing and perfectly imitating other life-forms.
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So Say We All!
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THE ASS-PATTER SQUAD
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A.L.F.
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OK, maybe not. But that would be the Ultimate buddy drinking comedy duo.
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THE ASS-PATTER SQUAD..<p> Featuring Conti 'the clutch' Lop..<p> Flick-her-pantie-elastic-Poo..<p> Hands_Off..<p> And the fiery grip of Six Demon Fingers.<p> Tagline: THEY CAME FROM BEHIND!
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SDB, I wonder if we can all chip in and commission Flicka to illustrate that picture?<p> The Last Supper of the Peebers done like Da Vinci with a lactating Waitress in the centre would be A W E S O M E !
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I'd be one of the disciples craning his mouth round to try and catch a milky rain drop.
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are leading the Alien invasions of Earth for the past 40 years with all the multiple attacks of Puppet Masters, The Body Snatchers, Blobs, Things, Triffids, Killer babie spawns and smart Blonde psychic kids...
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Reply sent.
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http://tinyurl.com/3733pbg
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June 10, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST
Also, the Third Rock Gang help coordinate attacks, too...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
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I'm cracking myself up just thinking about that comedy duo. Just from the thought of their voices in conversation alone.
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when we have company over for fancy dinner..i would set it out on the table for the "pebrew elijah"--michael caine.<P>talk about conversation starter
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in The Princess Bride alongside Andre the Giant it would make an already classic film a comedic masterpiece.
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"Oh, $hit! I forgot the little people can't keep pace with us."
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If he SHOWED UP! <P> "Can I have some bloody more mash potatoes?"
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MY FRIEND THE GIANT...AND HIS FRIEND THE ANGRY DRUNK DWARF!
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As in Mann's Chinese Theater.
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have a young floozy tart and a saucer of gin<P>CAINE will come.
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is that Andre the Giant was also a legendary angry drunk. So, imagine these two drunk freaks both pissed off at the world about their freakishness.
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destroying everyone and everything in their path with their drunk freak retard strength.
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As Master Blaster.
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P.T. Barnum's Ass-Kickers: Chan and Eng, Jo-Jo, The Dog-Faced Boy, John Merrick, Tom Thumb, and, since it's a time-displaced group, a fat, smoking Indonesian baby.<P>"Ohp. OHP!"
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I just dropped some 20+ year old comics work I used to do when I still wanted to be a comics artist...its at the Shelter, so if you get a chance, look at what I was doing almost a lifetime ago...<p>It's from a Comics APA, called Klordny, all about the Legion of Super heroes...My 'zine was Legion Laundry...I also did a series called "Adventures in the 30th Century"...It was a lot of fun...
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Heya gang!
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Hope you like...
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ROCK! <P> Hey, good stuff there, Cheeses. Was that second one Shadow Lass, or Umbra (whatever they were calling her then)?
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You'd think having a keg fridge would be cool, but then you start waking up an hour late for work every day. And it takes me an hour to get here, too.
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...Has an article on the making of the 'Thriller' video that's pretty interesting, so far.
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Rumored by whom, Col.?
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What's this nonsense about someone going off on why we shouldn't be Pedalbacking? What a load.
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there's one of Shadow Lass, two of Andromeda (Supergirl), one of the White Witch, a Dawnstar/Dreamgirl tag team and one of a chick I forget her name but she was a living Green lantern Power Battery...I loved doing pin ups...I used Playboy and Swimsuit mags for poses and face structures...
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http://tinyurl.com/2v6efvy
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Behold the bountiful queen of the Pedalback!
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June 7th @ 1:30-ish, if I remember.
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from one project to the next, so it's not hard to believe.<P>It's set the fanboys to whining for a month.
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Recognized her from Heroclix but couldn't remember her name. <P> Too many of those darned Legionistas!
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Think I got one of those damn butterflies in my ear the other night!
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makes less sense.
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setting him up with no payoff.
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http://tinyurl.com/28jhquu
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I doubt that he was seeing the Lizard as a 'sure thing', anyway. Especially after the third movie.
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It's clear he didn't write that.
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He'll stoop to any level to pander for support, even if it means dropping a rather labored "Situation" reference.
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Aside from MYSTERIOUS SKIN, I've liked him in everything I've seen. I don't really think you can blame MYSTERIOUS SKIN on him, either.<P>But, he just plays young. A kid. He's not a threat. And unlike Heath Ledger, who had the advantage of playing a wild card, he doesn't have any make-up to hide under.<P>But, we've said it a million times before, and since I'm s'posed to be avoiding it all anyway, I should just shut up about it. It's not a batman made for my enjoyment, anyway, is it.
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Indiana Rep. Mike Pence was on CNBC yesterday saying that BP should definitely fix the leak, etc., but that the government should have to pay for the shore cleanup because, uh, that's "our coastline." <p>I'm sorry, Rep. Pence. If some drunken idiot were to shit and vomit all over my vinyl siding, and I caught him in the act, you better be damn sure he's paying for the fucking damage and cleanup.
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What am I gonna do?!
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I'll refrain from being explicit in headlines from now on.
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Granted, McCain has sort of exposed himself as a bit of a dodgy old man, but I don't see him Tweeting. He's fukken seventy-something, isn't he?
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get in a tussle like that. I hope all wounds heal soon.
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The rule is imposed on myself. Not on others.<P>Besides, I think I made an exemption on speculative casting.<P>ST'll keep me honest if I go too far off the rails.
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Maybe he is having staffers do it, but he knows what they're tweeting and approves of it. That tanning bed one is pretty par for the course.
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We are represented by those that most resemble us, are we not?
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Coming to the end of a good book always makes me feel a little melancholy.
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Keep it really really real. <p>And keep on fuckin' that chicken.
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Watch out for Bryan Singer.
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...But does anyone want a spinoff starring Tom Cruise's character? <P> I was upset that he didn't get any comeuppance for being a huge prick.
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starring Tom Cruise's character. If this thing with Cameron Diaz tanks, he could do worse than disappear into a fat-suit comedy.<P>Ask Eddie Murphy.
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a Fat Bastard movie. Sure, it would bomb, but it is his idea.
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There's a movie out Friday with the same premise, starring younger and hipper actors. <P> And it's gonna tank too. <P> And dear < P >, don't even joke about a Fat Bastard movie. Myers' Scottish accent was tired before the first Austin Powers movie even came out.
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it came out  ‍‍‍‍<br>last  ‍‍‍&zwj</br>week and has already "tanked."
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The fat suit has been employed correctly in cinema just once, in my opinion. And that was in Stephen King's Thinner, starring the incredibly awesome Robert John Burke. <P> Subby, are you familiar with the films of Hal Hartley?
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I musta knew that. I check out boxofficemojo every monday to see the grosses. My indifference to THE KILLERS is staggering.
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Is a lot like the Michael Caine "Depp is Riddler" rumors. Fanboys started it and someone from inside just repeating that. <P> I actually got a weird feeling my dream of Penguin in the next Batman is going to happen.
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I'd recommend SIMPLE MEN or HENRY FOOL, firstly. <P> Hey, we got name-checked over in the IndyBack when they updated it with a bit of you-know-what from Frank Marshall. Neat-O!
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You mentally block out the release date.
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Beaks has it up his ass.<P>"Disney Draws From The Marvel Well For Medusa-Like Rapunzel In TANGLED!"<P>Marvel gets credit for long hair, now?
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You may be right, and here's why: Burton's freak show take on the character is so far removed from the logical, realistic take that you could do with Penguin that he becomes a viable (I'd imagine) candidate. Being one of Bats' more high-profile baddies doesn't hurt, either.
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Marvel Comics creates Greek, Norse Mythology!
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If Rapunzel can control her hair like it was alive and make it grab people and shit, yeah that is a little like Marvel's Medusa. But that is one of those things I could see someone develop without ever reading a Marvel comic come up on their own. <P> It's like saying the Incredible Shrinking Man is based on the Atom.
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Somebody mentioned that we should BAMF there next since there was some backpedaling going on. <P> Well, they didn't say BAMF, but you get my meaning.
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 ‍‍‍‍<br>with animated hair????
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Based on logic, circumstantial evidence, my own gut instincts, Zodiac signs and the entrails of a goat I read. <p> Actually, I did come up with an argument for using him which I believe Nolan and his brothers probably realize as well.
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June 10, 2010, 5:57 p.m. CST
Okay, I just dropped a couple of Party Invites at the shelter...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
from when I lived in Vegas...I did the art...<p>Look for Cheeses Invites at the shelter and pick #3a as it is turned correctly...<p>These were always a hit and we had GREAT parties....
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But like I said, I could see someone making the Medusa comparison. Of course he is saying they are ripping her off, which is BS. <P> BTW - The problem with fanboys is that everything is in the context of geek culture.
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Strong Women!<P> Powerful Men!<P> Buildings!<P> Sunshine!<P>Think about it. Marvel has had sunshine in  ‍‍‍‍<br>every one  ‍‍‍&zwj</br>of its movies! They've been world-building sun right into their universe  ‍‍‍‍<br>all along!
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It's pretty close to the end of the INDYBack. He even put Pedalback in his subject line, if you wanna try and find it. Maybe you'd know the name.
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ed until Stan Lee wrote them into Fantastic Four.
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finky's an O.P.<P>Comes and goes real stealthily though, so I can understand your not remembering.<P>Winky @ finky!
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Finky Bells <P> Finky Bells <P> It's Finkmas Time <P> In the City
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in The Origins of The Pedalbackers.
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They just let you exist in it.<P>But, they're staring to reconsider.
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He's cool by me.
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Of Marvel Comics the Defenders. <p> A "non-team" of individualistic "outsiders", an ever changing roster, members coming and going, wide range or personalities. <p> I rest my case.
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Had a lot of catching up to do. <P> I still didn't find that rant against Pedalback, but I'd be willing to bet it was McCain.
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http://tinyurl.com/23nyuy8
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According to WTWB, We are disrespectful for reviving dead threads...
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to his favorite French film-maker.<P>I sure hope he doesn't live in Chicago and is trying to get TOY STORY tickets.
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Follow that link I just gave to Ess.
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Showed up last night or night before (I'm on vacation so I forget) but, he was all up in the Pedalback grill...but, he only posted once and left...
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But then again, he was fairly well-spoken himself. <P> Nevertheless, you defended the Pedalback with honor, sir.
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...filmmaker." <P> Pretentious turd.
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June 10, 2010, 7:01 p.m. CST
Thanks, Teddy...I tried...But, the more I thought about it...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
BTW... Did you see my party invites at the shelter...?
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OK, enough about him.
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Grilled pork ribs, rubbed with sea salt and herbs. Served with slightly charred red bell pepper and onion sliced thick, whole baby Bella mushrooms, and polenta. Paired with Capçanes Mas Donis, a blend of 85% Grenache and 15% Syrah, aged 8 months in oak, from Montsant in Spain. <P> Dessert is more wine, and at least one, if not two, episodes of Lost, Season 5.
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The first appearance of the Daleks! Can't wait...
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Waitress, you took the 10,000 with style. A literary flash of the boobs. A burst of lactation. And butterflies.<p> Perfect. Except for one thing. I WASN'T THERE!<p> Perhaps one last little squeeze of milk for me? Think of it as charity work...
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June 10, 2010, 7:12 p.m. CST
Cobes is the one I worry about with my Daughter...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
Not D. Vader...
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[ScaryWaitress pulls her shirt open just a tiny little bit... a tiny, pale arc pauses in mid-air as milk becomes shining white wings, and a 3-inch-wide butterfly flutters off into the sunset.]
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Mommy needs a time out.
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My shit just got real. <P> So to speak.
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(or anyone who is up to date on comics). <P> Me and Series7 were wondering about this at another site: when exactly did the Penguin go from one of Batman's biggest foes to being a third tier, joke character?
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Waitress, you just put my munchkin to bed...<p> I'm picturing you with one of those feeding bras that you can just pop the cup open for speedy access. Pow - and then covered up again. Fastest boob in the west.
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With Bergis Meredith on the 60' TV Show...
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That's about all I know. My Pre-Crisis DC knowledge is for shit, tho.
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When I stopped reading Batman comics regularly, say early 00's, they had him running a nightclub, as in the animated series. He was always one of the "players" among the underworld, mobster types. Then, for some reason I forget, Batman had something on him, and he became an informant.<P>I don't think that lasted long. I think he is now Gotham's "king-pin" of crime in absence of the last Black Mask, who was deposed as such and exposed as Jeremiah Arkham.
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If anything Burgess brought the Penguin back to the forefront. He disappeared at the end of the Golden Age (along with Catwoman, Two-Face and even Riddler) until the TV show really brought back the idea of Arch-Criminals over aliens and super-villains. <p> Plus all of Bats foes where shown as jokes on that show (I mean the Joker and his own utility belt?), yet the other Big Four haven't suffered the fate of Penguin.
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Cobes just took his obsession to thenext level
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is the site acting real, real wonky again?
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to load.
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Here is a character now listed on the top 10 worse Batman villains list on a number of sites. Yes, he is one of the top Mobster villains in a universe that says mobsters were replaced by the "freaks." I mean would anyone in the DC comics or its fans rank him as being Batman's greatest villain right up there with the Joker? <P> The last three times I saw the Penguin was in a Gotham Central when Harvey Bullock is throwing him around (could you imagine Harvey doing that to the Joker or Two-Face) that graphic novel "Joker" where they show him as a wimpy bookie who gets bossed around by the Joker and Killer Croc, and Joker calls him Abner; and in Morrison's Batman & Robin where he is begging Batman to save him from the Red Hood and gets tangled up in his own umbrellas and is treated as a joke by Batman and Red Hood. <P>
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And, 'Lop...I have NEVER seen the Penguine done in a threatening manner like I know he could be portrayed...and umbrella gimmicks? Difficult to make frightening...<p>Mary Poppins had the same problem...
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And it is only this site. <P> Fuck AICN!
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The Riddler has been on a year-long stint as an amnesiac and private eye and sometimes lackey for "The Sirens of Gotham," Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn and Selina Kyle.<P> The Joker has been absent for a year since Dick Grayson started wearing Daddy's uniform.<P>Selina Kyle had her heart removed by Hush, put on ice, and re-implanted into her chest by some fourth tier hero.<P>Of all of them, I think The Penguin's the  ‍‍‍‍<br>only  ‍‍‍&zwj</br>Bat-character who  ‍‍‍‍<br>isn't  ‍‍‍&zwj</br>a total joke, now.
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It is a metaphor for his character: something that appears harmless and innocuous really concealing something deadly and dangerous. Same thing with the Penguin, "the comical appearance hiding an evil genius." He isn't supposed to look dangerous or deadly, but he is.
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Batman comics have been ruined for me, utterly. Penguin hardly registers.<P>I'm not going to be interested in Batman "continuity," comics-wise, probably for the rest of my life.
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From the TV show. Riddler has also been treated badly over the yeas, I agree there. <P> But Joker can't a leave of absence because he is such a big villain. His presence is felt. And Catwoman has her own comic book so she can't be looked as a joke. <P> Scarecrow and Two-Face, besides Joker, are the only Golden Age villains given respect by modern writers and fans it seems (Hugo Strange wearing drag really annoyed me in Legends of the Dark Knight).
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AICN is no longer headquartered in Austin...Hasn't been for almost a decade...<p>They moved off-shore to the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, to avoid taxes and to provide harry a safe place to float.....<p>But all this undersea oil is clogging the Intertube nets choking them off like David Carradine...
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But I am just curious when Penguin "jumped the shark" as a villain fans loved and made people want to buy the comic book. <P> Of course the cartoon versions never really helped (BTAS was hampered by Burton, I admit).
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time as the last good Riddler story I read - some time around the mid-90s. I'm pretty certain Chuck Dixon wrote them both. It had Penguin getting away with a crime spree by simply doing it during the day. He only facked up when he targeted something or other inside some big warehouse or something - mind's not tight on the details - where Batman could control the lights.
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But now I got the image of David Carradine in my head again. *brrr*
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He runs around with a yellow ring that can manifest fear powers.
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When I heard about that I could only shake my head. Ugh.
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in Batman's multi-colored "rainbow" suit from the silver age, that Morrison has reconfigured out of a homeless bum's rags which Bruce Wayne stitched together when he was "crazy" before he "died."
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HHHHAAAA!!!<p>Why isn't the Penguin one of the Birds of Prey?
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I thought he had to give it back after the big hoo-hah.
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Why don't they just have become the new Kite-Man?
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around the whole Earthquake thing.<P>The whole thing is a joke, now. And the kids are eating it up. It's the second hottest thing DC has got going, after the Green Lantern stuff.
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June 10, 2010, 8 p.m. CST
Batman foes and the rest of the DC universe don't really mix
by Continentalop
Actually Batman doesn't really mix well with them either. Different genres. <P> That is one thing I agree with Nolan - Batman shouldn't be connected to a larger DC universe.
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Just like Luthor stayed an orange one.<P>Now, when they have "Lex Luthor" running around in a Superman-related comic, it is a robotic duplicate.
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June 10, 2010, 8:02 p.m. CST
I'm still trying to figure out when DC became Marvel comics
by Continentalop
And when did Marvel become bad DC comics?
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I may have to start writing again just so people will have something cool to read.
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June 10, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST
What's funny is, I always kind of thought the Penguin was...
by ScaryWaitress
...pretty lame. I'm not asking for a comic to be realistic, but a villain of any stripe posing as a roly-poly bird, complete with top hat and monocle... maybe it worked when top hats and monocles were all the rage, but in our modern era he just looks like a goofy throwback. That character always struck me as one of those quaint old-timey things.
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June 10, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST
'Lop, it was the day Tony and Bruce started throwing ...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
cross company Car-key and fish-bowl parties...
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read comics: Batman did not play well with others.<P>But now, DC wants a Universe like Marvel's, all interconnected. To pull it off, they sent Bruce Wayne into a giant time vagina. When he comes back, he is going to be a "villain." A year after that, his "villainy" will be 180'ed into a "necessary evil" (think Marvel's "Civil War"). A year or so after that all the current DC Comics continuity will be explained to be an alternate Earth, and the Earth One series of books will be folded into a "true" status quo.
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He's always kept the monocle, though.
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Who are the bad-guy equivalents of Tony and Bruce when it comes to partying down?
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Since all the comics nerds are in the house. <P> And of course, there is no malice intended there.
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that old-timey vibe. Until it was turned into Chicago for a movie.<P>You know, dirigibles in the skies and mobsters aren't exactly "current."<P>For me, I never looked at Gotham City to be analogous to New York City. So, I guess, the old-fashioned-ness of concepts like The Penguin never really stuck out to me as out-of-place.
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Yeah, the top hats and monocles and wearing a tux all the time is out of date nowadays, but it was what a fashionable gentleman would wear during the 30s & 40s when he first appeared. <p> My thing has always been why does he have to "always" wear it? I'm not saying throw it out because it is an iconic look and makes him instantly recognizable (Sherlock Holmes, Tarzan, Robin Hood and Emma Peel all have iconic wardrobes) but sometimes wear other things like another iconic looking character, James Bond. Bond isn't always in a tux (his iconic look) but he appears at least once or twice a movie. Samething with Penguin. <P> Plus, is a top hat, tux and monocle that weird compared to a question mark costume, a cryo-suit, or dressing up like a clown or a cat?
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I think the Flash's Rogue Gallery like to party, but I don't think they are quite up there with Bruce and Tony.
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was in the question mark costume. He's always been in a green suit, for years and years, carrying a question mark-shaped cane, wearing a derby. Only his accessories are ?-shaped. His spandex costume went out, and stayed out, some time in The 70s.<P>Of course, remember, I've got a dodgy memory.
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Is a suit covered by question marks any weirder than a tux and a monocle? <P> Personally though I agree with Scary. I think they should change Penguin's appearance because he was never meant to stand out that much, but than I admit you are tinkering with an iconic look which is dangerous.
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with a question mark cane and derby. I don't know why I said question mark suit again.
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They're more insular. <P> They're more like frat partiers. You COULD go party with them, but you know things could go south real quick.
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Ventriloquist and Scarface best villain added to his rogues gallery in the last 40 years.
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It's in his NAME....
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I imagine them like a frat. You not part of the group your going to be taken advantage of once you pass out. <P> Your going to wake up naked, tied to a tree with shaved eye brows, make up, and icicles on your willy. <P> PLus I won't even mention where the boomerang is.
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I couldn't believe when they added that little wrinkle to his character. I guess it IS a hell of a drug.
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Was when they made Captain Cold very anti-drug. <P> Captain Cold isn't carrying snow? BS.
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and compared to other things in Gotham, no, the Penguin isn't so weird... I just always thought he felt out of place because he was obviously such an over-the-top caricature of a fat cat or a mobster, which just didn't feel like something that would need Batman to deal with. I guess I'm having a hard time putting it into words... the Penguin isn't scary, or interesting, I guess. Just a lame duck villain, if you'll pardon the pun. <P> And Subs... I get that Gotham had the old-timey vibe, I just felt I guess that Penguin had too much of the real world in him compared to everything else. He was one of those warm-n-fuzzy villains... you know, for kids. Just kind of dumb... or at least, had a shelf-life, unlike a lot of the other characters.
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He's a tweaker...
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The biggest party people are the thugs: Absorbing Man, Wrecking Crew, Sandman, Sabretooth. All hard drinking types. <P> You definitely don't want to hang out with them when they get drunk, unless you want a crowbar up your ass.
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Took me awhile to get to the 'boomerang' remark. The site IS glitchy today...
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See my second post. I think his costume both helps him (it is iconic) and hurts him. <P> I think the problem with Penguin is that he isn't scary looking, which is the point of the character, but you can't show how evil or dangerous he really is in a cartoon where most people encounter him. <P> Plus, I think in many ways he is to sophisticated of villain. He is a villain who the readers have to understand is trying to look silly and weak, and using that to his advantage. I think modern comic writers and readers have completely forgotten that angle and just made him this whacky bird character.
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I think you mean Speedfreek. But as he's only popped up maybe three times, I can forgive you.
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A sidekick nicknamed Speedy is a heroin addict instead of a meth head. Think about that.
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But, The Ventriloquist has been dead for years.
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I could see those guys sharing a few brews. Eventually (or prolly sooner), Wade would piss Floyd off and he'd shoot the shit out of him. Only to find out that he'd have to do it again...and again...and again...
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Scarface AND the Ventriloquist. Great duo. <P> You know he'll be back after they have milked the new one long enough. <P> Scarecrow should get his own little dummy - Scareface.
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June 10, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST
I can see that, Ess. I think it's in the name Penguin.
by Subtitles_Off
That's another thing, modern comics, no one calls him that except as a derrogatory insult. He's Oswald Cobblepot.<P>Another thing about his chubby, "goofiness" that I don't mind is its contrast to Batman.<P>With Penguin - exactly because he is a bit of a schlub - it's brains vs. brawns.<P>Unfortunately, they've facked that up, too. Despite his chub, Penguin's been given a martial arts fighting style, so he can now hold his own with batman without all the hired thugs bodyguards he used to keep in his posse. DUMB!
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There is no Ventriloquist.<P>Scarface currently resides in one of Batman's trophy cases.<P>Arnold Wesker returned, briefly, as a Black Lantern zombie with a hundred scary puppets.
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Martial Arts prowess? Fuck. The only thing he might know is fencing and La Canne de Combat to use with his Umbrellas. But the guy is not a fighter. <P> Dick Cheney is a pussy in a fist fight, and he could have any of us killed. THAT is how they should do the Penguin!
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Robin, Kid Flash, Mal and Aqualad fuckin' with Roy...<p>"So, after your last date, Wonder Girl told us why they REALLY call you Speedy..."
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Man, it just gets crappier doesn't it?
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He is such a pity member of the Teen Titans. <P> "Look guys, I know Aqualad is a loser, but his mentor is friends with our mentors so they are forcing us to let him on the team."
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and I want at least one scene where he and Caine have an acting showdown.
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What. The. Fuck. <P> So, so deeply lame. <P> OK, time to go pay homage to the flickering flatscreen, and offer my brain unto it in obeisance.
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Swirling vortex of suck. WHY did I buy Blackest Night?
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You were holding out false hope that Ted Kord would be brought back in that series.
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Light a candle in honor of flatscreen.
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Fool me eight times, shame on me.
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And the Bat-Men of Many Nations.
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And at the end of it Kord is still dead and Batman tells Booster "Ted Kord Lives. In our hearts." <P> And you'll be able to hear your scream from space once you finish it.
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Ted Kord will be back in the Blue Beetle suit before Bruce Wayne is once more THE Batman of Gotham City.<P>Of course, I don't know, and I don't mean any cruelness to teddy by speculating, but - DAMN - it has gotten to be that the best characters in the DCU are the  ‍‍‍‍<br>dead  ‍‍‍&zwj</br>ones, because they can't be fukked with.
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Kord Blood 4 life!
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Goodnight, Ess.
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I wish Tony Stark was dead. And I wish Wolverine died two decades ago.
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See you later lads. <P> Fuck Lucas!
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June 10, 2010, 9:10 p.m. CST
The worst thing DC has done recently is to Green Arrow.
by Subtitles_Off
Slaughter his toddler grand-daughter. Rip his old sidekick's arm off. Blow up his city. Turn him into a murderer, and send him off to live in a "mysterious" forest with a cult of Tea-Baggers.<P>The hippie, liberal of The DCU is now a reactionary psycho.
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I don't wanna fukk him. You fukk him!<P>Hey, let's get Mikey!<P>He'll fukk him. He'll fukk anything!
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As per usual. <P> Subby, I'd put money on that wager, just so you know.
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Running thru my veins!
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Otherwise, we'd be on.<P>Why do you think he's the one that will stay dead? Is it partially that wishful thinking 'Lop and I mentioned?
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anything together?<P>Really?
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My buddy Starman got that Justice League mini where that GA shit went down, only because he's (obviously) a James Robinson fan. Gorgeous art but terrible writing. Laughable, even. <P> And because I always liked the idea of Prometheus, I got the one-shot that explained why he got so second-rate so fast. And it was GOOD. I was excited to see what Prommy would do. <P> Oh. <P> Oh. <P> And he's dead. <P> Awesome. <P> Thanks again, DC!
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I don't know if they shared any screen time. <p>The next BATMAN could be even more like a limey HEAT, and Batman himself can be upstaged yet again.
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'Lop's 'FUCK LUCAS' has me confused with 'Keep fucking that chicken!!!'
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...I just wanted to say, "here is the Penguin!" <p> http://tinyurl.com/yfdn42e
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I truly believe that there is an editorial (at least) mandate to keep Ted in the ground until the new Beetle suddenly becomes the new Wolverine or something. They're pushing him as hard as I've ever seen a comic company push a new character. Why? Because, for whatever reason, they really don't want Ted Kord running around the DCU. <P> I had heard that the rights they had to Ted were only for comics, and not for any other medium. I had assumed that was the reason. But then I heard that whatever deal they had expired the year after he died. Which WOULD make him a viable character again. But they haven't brought him back, have they?
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around here. <p>I'm the Colonel.
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But I'm trying to get out of here.
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We can discuss it later.<P>You know where you can find me.
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Never in a Nolanverse movie.<P>Gotta skew young, youknow.
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Just flying real fast. <P> Lady Gaga tells J-14 Magazine that the kids used to tease her, calling her 'Big Boobs McGee'. <P> Cheeses, take it away...
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characters, is in order.<P>Bruce Wayne has died. Some journalist has a theory he may have been Batman. This journalist interviews all the old villains - some reformed, some in an institution, all of them shadows of their former selves - and Wayne's widow, Selina. Somehow involve some old mystery that can be told in flashback.<P>Cast with actors of the caliber of Hoskins, Hopkins, Jeremy Irons. <P>I'd dig it.<P>Never in a million years.
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Far better than Flat-chested Fanny, or Mosquito-bites Monique...
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See you classy gents tomorra!
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I'm stickin' around for time bein'!
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Right after I direct Kord:The Man And His Dream. <P> Too obscure?
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I was setting ya up for a banana hammock joke there...
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June 10, 2010, 9:40 p.m. CST
Either Colonelman's tryin'to loose some weight...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
with all that runnin'...or else he's got a bad case of the Water Shits...
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must say that this week went pretty fast.
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Just unsure of what my DF was going to do. Usually she usurps my seat at the computer desk at this time, but she'd rather play Civilization on the Xbox.
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Just kidding with ya, pally. <P> Ok, now I'm out. Going to the late night comic book store to get my weekly dose. Sigh.<P>Later Gang!
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you can still eat Gulf seafood.
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Get her her own computer, preferably a laptop. Then you can sit side by side, watch tv and play on the computers together...
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But that's a while from now. But good idea, Cheeses. <p>Night, Teddy!
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Good night, Peebs.
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See ya in a minute!
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They should be doing the effects right now right?
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If you're still out there. <P>Finally finished your Party Jam. Archives, youknowwhere. Check it out and lemme know what you think.
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Thanks...
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for Bruce Wayne. Check it out when you get a chance.
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Thanks for putting it up...I hope everybody will check it out...
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Demi Moore's adolecent husband and a super hot blonde...<p>Why?<p>Is Ashton Planning a Brad Pitt like escape from a horrific marriage?<p>Is that why he signed on for a remake of Mr. and Mrs. Smith...<p>And, Tom Cruise is re-making it next month with Ashton's ex...WTF???
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But, I will probably go see The A-Team this weekend...I never followed the series, but, fuck, the tailer clips look outrageous...<p>Sorry, all you Cinemanistas ...
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I just cracked open beer #22 since whenever I started today...<p>(Weird how I spell so much better after 16 or so beers...)
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Larry King's wife attempted suicide...<p>Why wouldn't she?
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Okay, did I miss something? I'm watching E-News...
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http://www.realbollywood.com/news/up_images/11113339.jpg<p>..Is WAY hot...but, I thought they said Jessica Alba...
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http://www.topnews.in/light/files/jessica-biel_0.jpg
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keeps you from hearing stuff you don't wanna hear...
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June 11, 2010, 3:02 a.m. CST
http://www.realbollywood.com/news/up_images/11113339.jpg
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
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http://www.topnews.in/light/files/Jessica_Biel.jpg
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Because I would prefer using my own.
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Me either...too...
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Nytol...
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That leaves this place all to myself, which means...
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Retired college professor Indiana Jones, accompanied by his body guard Bud White, invites eccentric inventor Doc Brown and his new assistant, Arthur “the Fonz” Fonzarelli, to join the United States government’s most top secret project: the recently recommissioned Ass-Kickers Squad. Travelling to a secret base outside of Roswell New Mexico (where Fonzie meets four teenagers named Max, Isabel, Michael, and Tess at a local dinner) the pair are introduced to their teammates: an incredible shrinking man, a 50 foot woman, a tamed amphibious creature from the Amazon, and a former teenage (now twenty-something) werewolf. The motley crew is assigned to investigate the town of Mayberry, North Carolina, where the citizens are being replace by alien pod people under the control of telepathic, disembodied brain of millionaire megalomaniac turned Communist agent W.H. Donovan.
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I'd like to see Indy and The Fonz together. They could share a scene like the 'bragging about your scars' bit in JAWS where they try and one-up each other about who's got the best scuffs and scratches on their leather jackets.<p> "Boulder shmoulder. You think i'm impressed? This one here. This one right on the elbow. I got that when I jumped the Shark back in '79..." Fonz.
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Then after getting pissed they smoke a doobie and come to the profound realization that their sidekicks Sallah and Al the diner owner are actually the same archetype.
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it is ingrained in my DNA. I really don't have a choice.<p>I'm not seeing or hearing great things but I don't have a choice. Fortunately I have free passes to the theater so I won't have to shell out my own money for the farce.
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Peter Dinklage for..............<p>The Penguin <p>He is a great actor and shorter than Danny Devito. I think he would tear it up and actually be pretty menacing. He aint no Burgess but...who is.
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then they both realize they are pussy cousins cause Indy fucked Pinky Tuscadero in a Milwaukee Bar on one wild night.
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http://tinyurl.com/2w8co2k <p> http://tinyurl.com/2g8olk9 <P> http://tinyurl.com/3xjn9ex <p> compared to this: <P> http://tinyurl.com/2cbe3us
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I gotta work a little OT today so I'm at work later than normal on a fucking Friday but....<p>Pro Am Fishing derby this weekend. My Pops is a charter captain on Lake Ontario so hopefully we can land a winner.
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good choice.<p>I'm not so familiar with the character outside of the Burgess/Devito incarnations.<p>Your vision portrays him with more sophistication than comedy or freakishness as the other two versions. Without a wink of humor or freakishness I don't see how the character can work at all.<p>What are your thoughts on the characterization and motives of a "Nolan" Penguin?
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He was an animal in long good friday
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in Enemy at the Gates
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have won me over somewhat. <p>I grew up on the A-Team show. Like Mac, it is part of my DNA. My grandpa and I used to watch that, Remington Steele and Riptipde together. Grandpa loved Remington Steel especially, and he loved the Bond movies. Shame he never lived to see Brosnan as Bond. I think he would have gotten a kick out of it, while still preferring Connery, of course.
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guess I'll have to put it on my list.<p>Thats why this place is cool. It is educational.
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bursting at the seams of struggling top after another. And the score is really fucking all-out cool.
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June 11, 2010, 7:47 a.m. CST
I think it was Pauline Kael, who, after seeing THE LONG
by ColonelFatheart
GOOD FRIDAY, described Hoskins as a "walking testicle," or something to that effect.
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THE LONG GOOD FRIDAY is totally worth a watch. Not only Hoskins but also features Helen Mirren, Pierce Brosnan, and Belloq from RADIERS. The final scene is a killer.<p> I'm afraid Hoskins himself would be too old now to play Penguin tho. If Nolan does use the character (highly doubtful one suspects) then perhaps actors like Paul Giamatti or William Hurt? (who played memorable mob bosses in SHOOT 'EM UP and HISTORY OF VIOLENCE respectively).
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Or what about the bad guy from SNATCH who wore the thick lensed glasses and described himself as 'an orrible cunt'? That motherfucker was diminuitive and yet scary as all hell.
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to use Philip Seymour Hoffman. <p>On this there can be no debate.
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Col, he's a good actor but is the world ready for a ginger Penguin?
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Did you guys see Rules of the Game and that totally unrealistic scene where James Van Derbeek is totally bored while having sex with a blonde teenage Jessica Biel? That scene seriously pissed me off!
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if they can have tom wilkenson play a baddie and pull it off..and hoskins was also menacing lately in HOLLYWOODLAND..they should go for that kind of penguin..
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and SHERLOCK HOLMES and 21 GRAMS would be pretty gruff too.
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i think you mean RULES OF ATTRACTION..with the sublime shannon sossamyn..<P>thus ends my friday of alliteration
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Oswald Chesterfield Cobblepot: Billionaire asshole with an affinity for the cold weather birdies.<p>As long as he wears a top hat and a monocle at least once then I will be satisfied.<p>I still say Dinklage. I just want more midgets on film. They idea of Batman struggling with a midget makes me smile.
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what a fucking dunce I am.
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I guess it's no worse than Shannyn Sossamon waking up to find someone not only raping her, but taking her virginity and filming it and her just letting it happen pretending to be asleep. Total B.S. Oh and it's Rules of Attraction. Sorry.
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First off, the Penguin isn't a physical threat. He is an intellectual challenge for Batman, so you don't really need a younger man. <P> Secondly, her is a man from a different era, representing different values. The Joker was nihilism and anarchy, the Penguin is order and manipulation. Hoskins' experience and age wouldn't be a weakness - those are his strengths. <P> And finally, you have Morgan Freeman and Michael Caine already in the series, and Hoskins is younger than both of them. <p> If executives are worried about the youth demographic, cast a hot, young Catwoman in the film as well.
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Responding to Cotinentalop's Penguin lament from yesterday.
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everybody ready? Sookie's knockers better be on full display. I think Eric will prolly give her a good ramming with his Vampire dong in the first ep.
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Christopher Nolan is casting The Situation as The Penguin.
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http://tabrettbethell.com/
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Batman with a rival whose philosophical motivations unite his legitimate enterprise, political and criminal. I can see Nolan's idea of the character: His image and principles are consistent across the board, which is a contrast to Wayne/Batman's fractured existence. The Penguin represents old-fashioned unity of purpose, while Batman represents postmodern fragmentation.
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http://herblueeyes.com/
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I have a TV critic friend who's seen the first three episodes. She says it's completely wacked out, a little overstuffed, but never dull.
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June 11, 2010, 8:31 a.m. CST
Mac, the Penguin would definitely have a wink and a smile
by Continentalop
He would be a big grinning, overly friendly and polite individual. Think Sydney Greenstreet in the Maltese Falcon. <P> Of course, there would come a moment when suddenly the veneer would drop ever so slightly and his eyes would sparkle with pure malevolence and then the audience would know that he isn't a friendly, funny looking chap. Oh no, you would realize that he is just acting, pretending all along. That he is truthfully utterly ruthless.
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*legitimate enterprise, political and criminal GOALS*
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Type at y'all later.
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opening scene baby..
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a guy to own snuff films just cause he can..that kind of evil
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"Getting" Bruce Wayne, unlike any other villain. The Penguin's appearance is a complete fraud. It is a cover identity so people underestimate him and never assume he is a criminal. He is like Bruce Wayne's playboy image, where Bruce Wayne came up with that identity to actively throw people off of his track, but the Penguin never drops the veneer. <P> I can see the Penguin and Bruce Wayne talking at a function, like the beginning of the Opera season or a party in honor of Wayne Enterprise Stockholders (which Penguin is one) and Penguin suddenly notices Bruce Wayne's eyes wander and sees him scrutinize and study some gangster that just entered from across the room. The Penguin would stop talking and takes a deep look at Wayne and notice that for a lazy man he is in shape and seems to have a keen intellect that he tries to hide. <p> "People underestimate you, don't they Mr. Wayne?" <P> Bruce would of course try to bluff his way out of it, but Penguin would tell him he is an expert at wearing "masks" and can see through them right away. He knows when people are putting on an act. <P> Of course, that doesn't mean the Penguin is infallible. When him and his cronies leave the party and one of them makes a crack about how dumb and lazy Wayne is, Penguin would correct them. <P> "On the contrary, I think Mr. Wayne is a man we can do business with." Penguin could only imagine that Wayne is putting on an act for the same reasons he does - for purely selfish gain.
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not named AICN<P>who the director is for CLASH 2<P>del toro rebooting van helsing<P>who the director of neuromancer is<P>nolte and jen garner in arthur reboot<P>rush back for PIRATES 4<P>last twilight film will defintely be 2films<P>more stuff about TRANSFORMERS 3..it will be 3D<P>battleship is coming sooner than you think<P>mean girls 2 greenlit<P>batman 3 to start shooting 3/2011<P>trailer for new stuio ghibi film<P>RED DAWN delayed forever?<P>that VOLTRON film is still happening<P>the riddler and lizard rumors
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Is Lindsey in them?
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I may have asked this before, but have you ever seen Felicia's Journey? Bob Hoskins is amazing in this film as one of the creepiest psychos ever.
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That consistency I mentioned above could play into what you're saying, though. <p>Maybe model The Penguin on Warren Buffett? <p>All right. Really, gotta go .
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That is why I thought of him being the Penguin. I was talking to someone yesterday about that movie and that image of him popped in my head.
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about Rush's Barbossa and his history with Sparrow.
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Penguin is about consistency. It takes a lot of willpower to look as weak as him.
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But I've come to a conclusion that prequels always suck. <P> Has there ever been a good prequel? And don't say BB because that is an origin story for a relaunch.
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It means Lindey's career is still tanking and I've still got a shot with her.
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cause thats what the fans want.
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CLASH OF THE TITANS, EXCALIBUR, BODY HEAT, RAIDERS
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Capt. Barbossa is pretty damn fun as well.
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best prequel ever.<P>and halfof GODFATHER 2
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But I would say more often than not prequels fuck things up. See Vader, Fett, Wolverine, Hannibal Lecter, Dumb & Dumber, and the Exorcist for proof.
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June 11, 2010, 9:06 a.m. CST
And I know a lot of people are going to hate me for saying this.
by Continentalop
...But Young Sherlock Holmes as well.
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Yes...TEMPLE OF DOOM!! GREATEST PREQUEL EVER! <P> and it opens with a musical number and Dr. Jones in a tux! <P> < P >, I love TEMPLE OF DOOM
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Godfather 2 and Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me.
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99 % of prequels suck. They don't further the story or offer any character development. I would go so far as to say that they destroy character development, since stuff a character does in a prequel usually changes what they did in the first movies, and not for the better.
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But, you're right, people want more Jack Sparrow.
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character of Indiana Jones. He used to be in archaeology for the money and fame. After the events of DOOM, he realizes that isn't what archaeology is about. <P> And we get an awesome sidekick, villain, and score.
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the PIRATES trilogy. Granted, the sequels go down in quality as they progress, but overall as a series, it was pretty decent for the state of movies nowadays.
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as long as we get her before DGDB does. Then she's ruined for good.
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I would add that prequels usually explain and expand on stuff that doesn't need it. Most prequels seem intent on explaining how someone met someone or got something, like it was a live action version of Santa Claus is Coming to Town. <P> If the audience already accepts something and likes it, why do you need to explain it? It's like the opening of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: was the opening sequence of him as a young kid really necessary? I mean, do we need to see where he got his hat, his whip and his fear of snakes? It seemed to work fine in Raiders and Temple when we had no clue their origins but we accepted them.
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But I am not going to be taking a number after him.
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and PIRATES II: Stagnetti's Revenge. What is this trilogy you speak of?
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if the next movie was a prequel or a sequel as long as Sparrow is being Sparrow. Plus, I think people would love to know the history of Jack Sparrow. I know I would. Honestly, that's probably the only thing that would get me in the theater for another Pirates movie.
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Seems there are a lot of Peebs going to see A-TEAM (!)<P>Anybody want to do a SOME GUY & SOME OTHER GUY @ THE MOVIES™?
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in the Linda Lovelace bio? For art's sake!
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PIRATES of the Caribbean trilogy. Wow, I just Googled PIRATES and PIRATES II: Stagnetti's Revenge. <P> Yowza
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No way I am going to see the A-Team. <P>
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kinda fun, but not needed. One more reason why LAST CRUSADE < TEMPLE OF DOOM
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but not opening weekend. I think the family and I are seeing TOY STORY 3 first.
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Prequels...<P> I am so with 'Lop when he says things don't need to be explained. Example: Indiana Jones' fear of snakes. Some things are best left mysterious. It goes back to my audience engagement theory. If the audience is wondering why a certain thing is - a character bit, a bit of color (not plot, although I personally like ambiguous plots, too) - their minds are engaged, and it will be more memorable.<P>Prequels can work if they tell a DIFFERENT story with younger versions of the characters. I mean, any given character, unless it began cinematic life as an infant, had a fictional life before. It's no more necessarily a worse direction than a sequel, but it can't play off of events people already know from the first. That almost always comes across as just empty riffing.
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I assumed not.<P>But I thought I read above at least two or three Peebers saying they were planning on seeing it.
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and thinking up to the point where they start saying indys name you thought the other man was INDY..kinda a wink at the audience..<P>but yeah moist prequels do suck for the main fact that you know how the storys gonnas end..it kills ALL suspense..<P>TEMPLE OF DOOM sidestepped this cause people at that time werent paying that close attention to dates..did it say 1936 or 35?<P>but were any of you in doubt as to the fate of obi wan or padme or yoda in SITH?<P>or holmes in YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES?<P>wow i need to see that again..its been too long..i remember liking it..not great but entertaining.<P>and how do you go from DINER to YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES is anyones guess.
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oral? Because, while I think Lindsay Lohan would put almost anything in her mouth, I think the "almost" part definitely includes male genitals.
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when i dont know?
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Wow, this really made me realize how much the 80s sucked: http://tinyurl.com/28emags
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from Brown Bunny. So, yes.
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trilogy is setup, I don't think any kind of prequels would have worked sufficiently. <P> The prequel ideas in our heads are much better than what actually was filmed. <P> I wonder if you can film any kind of prequel idea that retains any suspense for the final confrontation between Obi-Wan and Anakin.
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Now, enough with this Jibber Jabber!
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You're probably going to see 12 of those get green-lit over the weekend.
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no. There is no way you can make "How did Darth Vader become Darth Vader?" compelling for people who had invested twenty years already wondering.<P>As someone said, earlier in the week, the arc of The Prequels should have been something entirely else, with that little tidbit of Vaderishness being incidental - part of the adventure, off-to-the-side, perhaps as a result of the events of the arc, but not the focus.
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the film-makers don't care about the views of fans of the original STAR WARS. They just wanted to catch lightening a second time for a subsequent generation. For all their intents and purposes, they were successful.
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DRAGONSLAYER, ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK, HEAVY METAL, STRIPES
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June 11, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST
cinemagic is themed for films of the 80s this weekend..
by Six Demon Bag
to coincide with ATEAM and KARATE KID coming out..two 80s icons.<P>NOW ONTO 82!!
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I'll need to get that from the library, but first comes DIE HARD and ALIENS.
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Interesting. Lat time I was in here we were sorta agreeing most sequels are shit. But today we've discovered a couple of exceptions that prove the rule. Nice!
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And LAST. Gah.
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coulda sat on the Imperial Senate all that time with Leia right across from him and not sensed a fucking thing! Explain THAT one Mr. I-planned-it-all-out-about-being-the-father!
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HELLO Mr. Fancy-pants!
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AT ALL. Lawrence of Arabia anyone? I sure didn't walk out a few seconds in. And I wouldn't have even if he was a fictional character (because many biopics are more fiction than reality anyway in the service of dramatic structure). <p> Sure it's a tall order, but the whole point and challenge of those "bookend" pics (and not necessarily just the biopics. Sunset Boulevard anyone?) is that the storytelling is compelling enough or the characters appealing enough that you care about what happens to them DESPITE their inevitable fate. I love that sort of "how did I get here" challenge! <p> It's the journey, not the destination.
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Melissa & Joey ABC Family, Aug. 17, Tuesdays, 8 p.m. Gen-X nostalgia alert! Sabrina the Teenage Witch's Melissa Joan Hart and Blossom's Joey Lawrence, both 34, return to their sitcom roots on Melissa & Joey. She's a party girl–turned–local politician, he's the bankrupt financial adviser who moves in to help her care for her sister's kids. In a word: Whoa!
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 ‍‍‍‍<br>anything  ‍‍‍&zwj</br>planned out when he was making STAR WARS?<P>That always amazes me, because, granted, I'm not a fan - we know this - but real fans of the thing seem to me to be so knowledgeable about all these infinite details - names and places and designs, and a zillion other things that just flash by the average movie watcher. It seems incomprehensible to me that these same people believe Darth Vader was intended as Luke Skywalker's father all along.<P>The whole scroll thing, was a simple homage to the movie serials of Lucas' youth. He never really intended there to be a back-story (or an after-story, for that matter).<P>Sure, nowadays, they've green-lit a "franchise" worth of films when they're making the first one. That's not how it worked back then. A sequel, even for a successful film, was never a guaranteed thing, and film-makers didn't think in those terms.
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I almost typed g'morning.
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thats a nice little twist.
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I love the dynamic of being so sympathetic to the character that you know what's coming and you're hoping like mad that something, anything will happen to avert it because you WANT them to stick around, find the girl, not get sick etc. It's like the opposite mechanism to a time travel movie where you're always cringing at the obstacles that mean they might never get home!
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that "journey" you mention...STAR WARS fans had been on that journey - in their own minds - for 20 years already. I really don't think there's a way Lucas could've rewarded that journey by codifying it.
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Well actually, it IS morning here! Quarter past 1 actually. So a few hours behind you. But WAIT! A day in FRONT of you! <p> But how can this be? Because I IS the Kwisatz Haderach! Bwahahahaha!
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basically he had a really big story and he wanted to tell it all..the details prolly werent all there but the main plot was<P>he then realized the film would be too long so he made just the first ACT.<P>did he think of yoda in 1975 when he stated writing? prolly not. but thats fine. i think the origianl trilogy is pretty cohesive
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Lucas wrote STAR WARS and  ‍‍‍‍<br>maybe  ‍‍‍&zwj</br>had some ideas scribbled in the margins. Nothing like Vader as Luke's father. After STAR WARS got popular, he probably wrote some notes down about more plot points for more movies.
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if Lucas did not intend a sequel? He totally left it open for a sequel even though he himself could not foresee its success and the need for one.
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Fear is the mind-killer.<BR> Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.<BR> I will face my fear.<BR> I will permit it to pass over me and through me.<BR> And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.<BR> Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.<BR> Only I will remain.
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with regards to the whole 1-3 and 7-9 trilogies. Lucas had a plan for some villain that is established in 1-3 to return in 7-9, like he was frozen in carbonite and sent into space in episode 3, and then returns in 7. Weird.
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STAR WARS is a film with a beginning, a middle and an end. Everything after the end credits, is propelled by material that is added, after the fact. A continuation. Then, a retreat. But, nothing, ever, that is a necessary element to elucidate the first.<P>Lucas is not Tolkien.
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Again, as an homage to the movie serials of Lucas' youth. Ming The Merciless always survived.<P> Not every character - even a bad guy - dies at the end of every story for that story to be complete.
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After all, Anakin was the most powerful Jedi and Luke is equally powerful restoring order to the force and defeating the Empire. I believe Lucas planned Vader as Luke's father, especially given that Vader's true identity it literally cloaked in mystery. Now, Leia being Luke's brother on the other hand.
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Look at the dialogue and other changes Lucas made to his revisions to cover his tracks.
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thats fine you dont have to drink the juice..but "his"tory has said that there were many drafts of the script revised and updated and things that couldnt fit into one film..<P>he said he would continue the story if they would let him (ie--if the first one made money)<P>he had basic premise stuff and filled in the details over the years..
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When you're sixty you can tell everybody you planned to marry Jacyln Smith when you were twenty, but when you met her at age nineteen, you were disappointed, so that's why you married Phlegmmy Flenderson, the love of your life (because you never met anybody else who would marry your sorry arse.)
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the revisions and changes did nothing to the plot..just superficial shit the give ILM something to do..<P>the only dialogue i can think of that kinda changed is when the emperor (hologram) is talking to vader in EMPIRE and that was unecessary LET ME EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU! exposition.<P>ive said it again..lil demon is watching the OG trilogy FIRST, to get the real stuff. the suprise of finding out who YODA is and VADER being lukes father was killer for me..<P>making them watch the prequels first constitutes as child abuse IMO
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STAR WARS' success. I know what he's said and also when he's said it.
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I want to hear more about The Penguin.
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I know Cobes isn't the first to use 'doens't exist in this dojo' but he does do so consistently on AICN.
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you showing Lil' Demon the ORIGINAL originals, right? No special edition stuff.
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The entire emphasis and structure of the "Darth Vader killed your father" was never altered, although people who paid far closer attention than I ever did have told me so.<P>It is, definitely, a "kool-aid drinking" thing, as you hinted at, and no one should ever take offense at anything I say about it, because I've admitted I don't care about it enough.
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cause hes always said that him and his best bud steven speilberg went to hawaii and traded profit points on each others films and created INDIANA JONES while they were there to get away from the craziness of STAR WARS and CEOT3K
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"dumb fun". <P> He got one word right and one word wrong. Can you guess?
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i saw as a child.<P>til i die.
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is used  ‍‍‍‍<br>ad nauseum  ‍‍‍&zwj</br>this weekend.
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KARATE KID reviews are up... time to go to work.
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the whole OBI WAN "certain point of view" mishap is JUST like OL' BEN though..that was his personality..he wouldnt say that anikin became your father..he would say that vader betrayed and murdered your father.<P>1-its a little more manipulative to get luke to come with him ato avenge his father..<P>and 2-its not nice to speak ill of the "dead" even if he really isnt dead
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He wasn't ready to learn about his father being the most evil man in the universe. Ben did him a favor.
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id be more weary of BEN KENOBI..he does seem to have all the answers..for all we know, HE killed uncle owen and beru and framed the troopers<P>THATS THE LAST TIME YOU AND YOUR WIFE CALL ME A CRAZY OLD WIZARD, YOU FUCKEN MOISTURE FARMER!! as he ignites their lifeless bodies and dances around their flaming crispy bodies YOU'LL NEVER BE MOIST AGAIN, YOU SILLY SILLY MOISTURE FARMER!! now off to find your nephew..
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rocking the goldsmith and poledouris!!
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Except to be a smartarse about the senate thing. Just talking about that type of story structure, generally it's done in one movie (hence the bookmark analogy). Although the Star Wars trilogies ARE sort of each trying to be three long-arse acts. And neither really works that way. <p> I agree about codifying it - remember my rant about the reductive bullet point structure that crosses off all the creative elements into dead-ends? Same thing. The way Lucas did the prequels he did exactly the same thing all those shitty 'extended universe' books & comics and so on did. Joined obscure Alien A up with off-the-cuff mention of planet B until there nothing left and you've come to a state of creative arrest. <p> Originally when Lucas was talking about th prequels he was saying it was his sandbox and he could shit in it if he liked, he wasn't going to be bossed around by whiny fanboys who only wanted Fett to be ALIVE down in the belly of that beast. And I said good for him! Do something different because it meant he was listening to his gut. BUT in the end he both shit in the sandbox AND listened to all the fanboys. Like we needed to be bashed over the head with Fett's Dad and MORE fucking duality themes! <p> Remember that Jar-Jar was originally going to be MUTE! Yes slapstick, but in keeping with his idea of these things being essentially silent movies. That's a pure intent. But nope. <p> And midichlorians. The bullet-point explanation of a mystical concept whose very power was it's universality through ambiguity! Bah! <p> Anyway I could go on for ages about it but I really gotta get to bed soon. Big day tomorrow. <p> Oh and I agree with what you said earlier about telling DIFFERENT stories. Prequel or sequel, that's the ticket, because you're opening it up, not the reductive join-the-dots thing. Sure, be clever enough to pepper a couple of little treats for the audience that put a SPIN on their preconceptions from the, er, future of the character, but don't make that sort of novelty the WHOLE picture, which is exactly the problem with all these other flicks we're talking about. <p> The thing with Temple of Doom and oh boy yep so much better than that bullshit reductive (in terms of making racist jokes of Sallah and Marcus and undoing all that work) third instalment (that's overly harsh but I'm making a point about reductivism here) third movie, is that it helps make the character bigger and more mythlike in terms of "oh, this was just another of his adventures - he had 'em all the time. And look! We didn't even start at the beginning! This one was BEFORE Raiders! He's been doing all SORTS of cool shit for ages." Sure it has plenty of dodgy stuff like all the fucking screaming and that whole unlikeable character of Willie in general, but at its core it opens UP Indy's story. <p> Oh and if knowing the end of a movie/story made the whole thing pointless then we'd never see a movie or read a book or listen to an album and so on more than once. But we do. Hmmmm. <p> I'm willing to give another Pirates one a chance though. Basing a movie on a fucking ride looked like the most cynical pathetic idea ever, but the bits they used are only exactly those tiny twisty nuggets I was talking about earlier, and essentially they used the brand-awareness (yes I'm shuddering too as I write that) to get a regular good ol' Pirate movie up and happening when marketing types said it was dead because the last one sucked. When that never stopped 'em from making yet another shitty cop movie or romantic comedy! So they earned my curiosity and trust that they can do the 'open it up' thing here. Fingers crossed hard. <p> P.S. Just quickly back to SW pre-planning, yes Lucas wrote a big backstory. And Darth Vader may be awfully close to "Dark Father". And he WAS a Joseph Campbell disciple before he lost his mind and perverted that stuff. BUT I think taking all those iterations where he mixed characters, changed their relationships and even sex are called story DEVELOPMENT, and it's pretty fucking disingenuous to play semantics and distort that into 'oh yes, I had all that boiling the whole time'.
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Fight the good fight!
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aside from Indy learning that "fortune and glory" aren't everything, it's only a prequel because it happens to be set earlier. They don't set out to explain anything. <p>Plus, you gotta love the little joke that Indy tried and failed with the gun-on-sword stunt before he had success with it. <p>I just watched TEMPLE OF DOOM last night. Easily one of the five most entertaining movies I've seen.
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I know it's not going to happen, but I can dream.
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June 11, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST
If Jack Sparrow gets laid, it's gotta be by a dude.
by ColonelFatheart
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once they enter the cave..its all good!
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it doesnt let up.
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It's only true "from a certain point of view". And a revisionist one at that. Come on, it comes from what Ben said in Empire. Which was Lucas re-jigging SW to retroactively get himself out of a closed plot thread. <p> I'm in the school of thought that believes SW was a one-off. And after that yes, nine parts & back to three. But you should read that big-arse making of Star Wars book (and the Pollock thing had a lot of of-the-time stuff too from memory, but I haven't read that since it came out) which charts the many iterations of the script. Lucas did kill the main bad guy in that film though. Vader was the bulldog on the leash remember? And the Emperor is only mentioned. I like all that because shit, the awesome looking scary guy isn't even the baddest cat! There's another Hammer-horror looking motherfucker that outranks him, and shit, even another guy we've only HEARD about! That's the sort of storytelling that opens your imagination up! We're only seeing a tiny bit, but you can imagine all the other stuff that's going on... Even the visual exposition in the amazing weirdo aliens that -wait! GO back! I wanna know - but hey, what's going on now? See what I mean about opening things up? It happened until Jedi, which is when it all started inverting. <p> Oh and remember the Falcon was the blockade runner 'til the last minute! They even took the cockpit off and stuck it on the new hamburger & olive Lucas design. That's why the model's so damn big for such a minor appearance. <p> Blockade Runner still rules though. It had a playboy poster inside the window! <p> And Steve Austin doll with bionic sight as Ben in the landspeeder is pretty cool too. If you're a fucking miniatures nerd like me...
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Lou Ferrigno, William Shatner and Linda Blair all dropped out. <p>I'd demand my goddamn money back if I were him.
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June 11, 2010, 11:15 a.m. CST
Yeah, it explains Sparrow's overt bisexual mannerisms.
by Subtitles_Off
Plus, historically, pirates bonked other pirates, not sexy ladies.
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June 11, 2010, 11:16 a.m. CST
EMPIRE magaize does their 100 greatest world cinema list..
by Six Demon Bag
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and a chick. Present it in the most casual, matter-of-fact way, too. It'd be groundbreaking for such a huge blockbuster. <p>Never happen, of course. It's a kids movie.
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hot ass pirate.
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In Star Wars when Han (USED TO) get to the dead end. Same mechanic/mechanism. <p> And you'll see both of them in Seven Samurai when Kikuchiyo does EXACTLY the same thing chasing after the brigand, seeing something out of frame which is then revealed to the audience as the rest of them come charging into frame. Actually the gun & sword thing is in there as well as in Yojimbo. And then we have Hidden Fortress... <p> And you do know the gun gag in Raiders was really in the end because the light was fading and Spielberg said "fuck it" and had Ford shoot the guy because they didn't have time for another setup? It's a pretty common story. <p> And Col. I just remembered that like the plane in Raiders, the Obi-Wan joke in Doom is just what it should be. A throwaway, an EXTRA bit of fun. Not the whole referential meal.
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but not with his sword..<P>uh..just eat your buttery popcorn son and i'll tell you after you father stops crying.
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Wasn't it also because Ford had the flu or something and needed to go crap/vomit his brains out?
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Holy shit what an awesome movie. Now I'm really looking forward to "Inception".
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ill break them up in 25s..till the 10s..to allow for suspense..<P>or in honor of todays them, should i do the top 10 first and then the rest?
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My favorite Nolan.
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June 11, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST
i have a making of doc that has harrison and pat roach
by Six Demon Bag
practicing their duel in RAIDERS when it was gonna be a big hullabaloo.
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Must be Friday ... bring on the booze!
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Whoa, maybe young Paul was doing it wrong? Or maybe he'd actually progressed past vanilla sex to the place women dare not go...
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You're goddamn right I was in the theater that night.
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Meant to stick that in there. My typing's slow enough...
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You're goddamn right I was pooping my diapers and probably crying about something that night.
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Weird. I was just this minute checking my e-mail, and I'd received - I dunno why - a notice about that very issue.<P>I was going to come back here and ask you if you'd seen the list.
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I cannot  ‍‍‍‍<br>wait  ‍‍‍&zwj</br>for The Third-and-a-Half Anniversary of [deleted]!
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hmm..so start at 100?
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and then one at a time for the last ten. Perfect!
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that was some long-winded agreeing I did! <p> And replying to others just to add confusion. <p> But I got my eyes scanned today and don't need the surgery because I've reversed the effects of the diabetes. I'm happy and all talky! Hooray!
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I thought you were imitating Harry, there, for a minute.
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just makes me feel bloody old. To me, the 60s is 20 years ago. Doesn't mean I will wear the 80s stuff I wore as a teen to the grave like other old people though. It's the youngsters that unknowingly wear that shit now.
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at a Sydney Con next week. Maybe I'll get to see him. He's like, totally that old guy form I love You Man, right? Like.
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The long-windedness is your thing, buddy! And nobody minds it in the least.<P>I feel a little soothed when a knowledgeable STAR WARS fan echoes some of my feelings.<P>It's another one of those things that would inform other people's views of me: The whole "I am your father, Luke" blew the minds of almost an entire generation of movie-goers. But the rest of us (I'm not including you here, 'nilla - just me and a few million others) stepped off, there, because, to us, it felt like a gimmick, a cheat, a gotcha!
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June 11, 2010, 11:38 a.m. CST
Yeah, and the wacky neighbor from King of Queens, too.
by ColonelFatheart
That's it, though.
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Ferrigno's evil.
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All the cross-cutting between different time periods, leaving you to work out when this takes place, before or after this scene, etc. I think that's why I might prefer Batman Begins to The Dark Knight (which had none of that). I guessed the ending surprises in "Prestige", but that didn't diminish my enjoyment of it one bit.
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I can watch an old 70s movie, see hippies and not think "dated." I can watch an old thirties movie with men in tuxes and not think "dated."<P>Why is it I canNOT see parachute pants, head-bands and Big Hair without pissing myself with laughter?
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And how in 3 years it will be the 20 yr anniversary, and how it doesn't seem that long ago. And yet in 1997 when I was 15 and it was the Star Wars 20th anniversary, that seemed like such a long time ago.
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Which I thought was weird; I don't think I've ever received an email from them before.
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That time compression thing. It has to do with our younger selves, I think, always measuring a year by a school year which seemed forever to a child.<P> When I was a little kid, there were celebrities whose big success only preceded me by four years or so; yet, to me, they seemed grown up and long ago.<P>Nowadays, someone says nearly ten years have past since LOTR, and I argue that it only came out three years ago.
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just like back when you were a kid, Summer Vacation lasted forever, and it took eons for Christmas Eve to arrive. <P> We're older dude. Stuff moves fast when you are old and not innocent anymore.
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is being royally pissed off because I had the worst headache of my young life and couldn't properly enjoy it. Must have been the built-up tension. <p> And that my parents were totally bamboozled and cheated because they didn't get the cliffhanger idea. I guess they thought it was going to end there. <p> I'm as objective as I can be about "I am your father". I love it, it's completely in keeping with the tone and IS the biggest revelation they could have possibly done. BUT, I'm under no illusions that it was reverse-engineered. I don't think it has to be one or the other. It can be both. <p> And Yoda USED to be the wise fool, the Japanese clown that reveals himself to be the sensei. Who speaks like an old Jewish guy. "Oy, how get you so big eating food of this kind?"! They even stuffed up the fact that it was part of the act and he dropped it when he was being really serious.
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June 11, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST
Have you guys been getting a lot of ROLLING STONE e-mails, too?
by Subtitles_Off
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21 years after the heyday of The Universal Monsters. That era seemed prehistoric to me growing up. There's now the same distance between myself and Burton's BATMAN. Yet the sense of time passing is completely different.
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Was it you asking me if I read that "Graphic" competition thing before? Yeah, and I spent a couple of hourse wrting out a MUCH too ambitious three-act thing. Dunno if I'd have time, but it was fun for the exercise. I could always work out how to trim it back I guess.
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and the relativity thing. When you're only one year old, one year seems like an eternity (arguing sentience for the sake of a clean analogy) because its the whole of your life. <p> When you're one hundred, a year seems to speed by in the blink of an eye because it's a mere one-hundredth of your life. <p> Makes sense to me, whether I like it or not.
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As much as I love KING KONG 33, I still regard it as somewhat of a relic. I'll never have the feeling those moviegoers had then when they saw special effects of that magnitude. It was such a vivid moment for my grandfather, that every time he saw it, it made him feel and act a lot younger.
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Sorry dude.
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June 11, 2010, 11:55 a.m. CST
'nilla, yeah, I've always "gotten" that, RE: "I am your father"
by Subtitles_Off
I guess what I mean to say is, to me, it felt cheap-stuntish because there'd been no hint of it that I could key to. I'm not saying they needed to telegraph it earlier with some heavy-handed foreshadowing, but it sure wasn't graceful. It was a shock that didn't resonate with me because it seemed for shock shake only. It seemed to me the equivalent of Carrie's hand bursting out of a grave (and, yes, I realize, I probably have the sequences of the two films reversed - I'm using the hand thing as an example, not saying it was copied).
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June 11, 2010, 11:55 a.m. CST
It made him feel like he was there all those years ago.
by ColonelFatheart
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To me that movie thing is the same as say, music. I can intellectually appreciate that Hendrix got sounds out of a guitar that were unlike anything people had heard. But I can never VISCERALLY understand the experience of being around to hear it the first time, as I've never known a time without it or it filtering through all those other artists. I'll never know that first pure impact.
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You'll always have immersive 3D.
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Wow, what was it like to experience something like that visceral the first time, with no preconceived notions other than what to expect from Hitchcock and no knowledge of the plot? <p>I mean, in a way I'm glad that I never had the sensibilities that would have been shocked by something like PSYCHO, but I wish I could experience it that way just once.
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On Vader. I'm on the side of no telegraphing there actually. Even if it WAS only because he came up with it later. I understand your view completely though. <p> Oh. Gotcha on the "no" too. <p> I'm hitting the hay. It's 3 in the morning and I'll never get up. Gotta cut my Chatty Cathy cord! 'Night!
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mentioned the contest to nilla.
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June 11, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST
I still share Mum-n-Da'nilla's thing about "cliffhangers."
by Subtitles_Off
I knew it was coming in LOTR, and I still left the theater flummoxed. In fact, that's the whole reason I had to sit down and read the entire trilogy, for the first time, right afterward. I had to have the whole story.<P>I don't mind cliffhangers for TV series. I guess, the idea of a series always implies cliffhangers, anyway.<P>But, I'm the type who is comfortable with my movies and my books being "whole."
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before I post...Missed Subs' post on the issue.
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June 11, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST
I'm hoping Flick and Toddie are enjoying all their time in the p
by Subtitles_Off
Because everybody here misses him.
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that were so dry and tasteless, it made you want to re-envision citrus?
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... Pebrew Nation misses you ...
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came by a sucked all the juice out before putting 'em back on the shelf. <p>Let's reboot Citrus. Get Platinum Dunes on it, stat!
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They just squirt right in your face when you bite them. They don't care.
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From Rolling Stones. Your post about the graphics competition hadn't popped up yet. I did ask you about the competition the other day. Glad to hear you cooked something up, even if its too ambitious, its always good to get the creative juices flowing.
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I'm gonna watch a movie. I think it was Star Hump who recommended THAT DAMNED UNITED. A bit of synchronicity, what with all World Cup stuff coming up, wot, wot?
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i'm laughin.<p>I'm having the exact opposite problem with an orange right now. The thing is so ripe it is actually dripping all over my hand and making a total mess. Very tasty though. I hate to admit it but Wal-Mart has the best oranges. I have tried the public market and other high end supermarkets but none are as good as the oranges at Wal-Mart.<p>FACT.
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My mouth is still spitting at my chin in disgust over the thing I just had in my mouth.
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commercial-worthy lighting.
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I hate when I write sloppily.
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squirt in slow-motion, as doves fly over head.
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Shake in your hand so much, you can't really tell where you've bitten them.
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beat  ‍‍‍‍<br>you  ‍‍‍&zwj</br>to the pulp!
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Fukk 'em!<P>I'll type @ yaz later!
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just the co-inky-dink.
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"All ... by ... my...se-eh-eh-elf"
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eaten by a blond woman while a menacing figure stares at them from the shadows.
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i'm out at 2 and then its off to drink away the weekend. Just got word that my Teamsters union probably won't strike. So I got that going for me. Which is nice.
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you're a teamster??<P>awe-some.
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lots of ass scratching and telling the managers to eat me.
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Its really not as bad as all the talkbacker hyperbole tries to convince the world. Really, what I think the worst thing about it is its complexity. Its a bit confusing trying to figure out who's kidnapped who, who has disappeared, why Indy is getting involved, why they need to find this place, why the Crystal Skull is there, who found it first, who found Akator, who brought it back and hid it and yadda yadda yadda. <p> The other movies were very simple: Find the Ark before the Nazis. Recover the Shankara Stones and save the slave children. Find the Holy Grail before the Nazis and rescue your father. <p> In Skull its like, translate this letter, find the Ox, and then oh yeah, the Crystal Skull gets found along the way, as does Marion, and now he has to return the skull and... eh. I'm still not sure of the timeline of events that happened offscreen. And the reveal of the Crystal Skull was very underwhelming, as if it wasn't important to the plot. Unlike the Ark, Stones, and Grail. <p> That said, its still an enjoyable movie and not the trainwreck some folks want to make it out to be.
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Signal future doom and death.
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Show him to be an awesome and creepy motherfucker.
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i was just reading back...that fucking sucks. I was really looking forward to it.
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one slice is unbelievably good and the next one is terrible and you never know which you'll get just that the first one was so good you will keep trying them.
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a lot of outdoor/library time, seeing as how the car keys were left in Wifeapoo's purse the other day.
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But yeah, its definitely not coming out in November.
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Nice Simpson reference, too. <p>My buddy's Flag Day BBQ is tomorrow. It's going to be fucking epic.
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Shia CG swinging with monkeys is embarrassing. Other than that it was one notch above The Mummy.
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why people have issues with the prairie dogs. They are in three scenes, about 6 seconds total, and they don't look CG to me.
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some BBQ in this weekend. My wife found an awesome dry rub for ribs that year that we love.
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June 11, 2010, 12:57 p.m. CST
GREATEST NON ENGLISH FILMS IN THE WORLD!!! (via EMPIRE)
by Six Demon Bag
100. Night Watch<P> 99. Iron Monkey<P> 98. Ran<P> 97. Farewell My Concubine<P> 96. Delicatessan<P> 95. Way of the Dragon<P> 94. Yeelen<P> 93. The Fourth Man<P> 92. Ghost in the Shell<P> 91. Goodbye Lenin<P> 90. Rififi<P> 89. Loves of a Blonde<P> 88. Leningrad Cowboys<P> 87. Andrei Rublev<P> 86. Run Lola Run<P> 85. Il Conformista<P> 84. Orphee<P> 83. Touki Bouki<P> 82. Battle Royale<P> 81. The Host<P> 80. Mother India<P> 79. Bande a part<P> 78. Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown<P> 77. House of Flying Daggers<P> 76. The Idiots
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Don't take any guff from these swine.
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The CGI prairie dogs are not bad looking CGI. And if that's what ruins the movie for you, I think you've got a lot of strange issues when it comes to your movies. <p> The ant scene, however, creeps me out. Epic bugbuts bug scene there.
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75. A Bout de Souffle<P> 74. Devdas<P> 73. Hidden<P> 72. Ten Canoes<P> 71. Persona<P> 70. Hard Boiled<P> 69. Ringu<P> 68. Solaris<P> 67. The Vanishing<P> 66. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon<P> 65. Un Chein Andalou<P> 64. Wings of Desire<P> 63. A Prophete<P> 62. 8.5<P> 61. Knife in the Water<P> 60. Jean de Florette/Manon de Sources<P> 59. Heimat<P> 58. Persepolis<P> 57. Central do Brasil<P> 56. Belle de Jour<P> 55. Lagaan<P> 54. Festen<P> 53. All About My Mother<P> 52. Xala<P> 51. Akira<P>
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50. Closely Observed Trains<P> 49. M. Hulots Holiday<P> 48. Downfall<P> 47. 10<P> 46. Jules et Jim<P> 45. Suspiria<P> 44. Ikiru<P> 43. Cyrano de Bergerac<P> 42. In the mood for Love<P> 41. My Neighbor Totoro<P> 40. L’Avventura<P> 39. Le Samourai<P> 38. Ashes and Diamonds<P> 37. Rome Open City<P> 36. Dekalog<P> 35. La Grande Illusion<P> 34. Waltz With Bashir<P> 33. M<P> 32. La Haine<P> 31. Godzilla<P> 30. Infernal Affairs<P> 29. 400 Blows<P> 28. Raise the Red Lantern<P> 27. Cinema Paradiso<P>26. La Belle et la Bete<P>
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25. Das Boot<P>24. Come and See<P>23. Spirit of the Beehive<P>22. Rashomon<P> 21. Nosferatu<P>20. Y Tu Mama tambien<P>19. Aguirre, Wrath of God<P>18. Oldboy<P>17. The Apu Trilogy<P>16. Tokyo Story<P>15. Let the Right One In<P>14. Three Colors Trilogy<P>13. The Rules of the Game<P>12. Metropolis<P>11. La Dolce Vita<
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creeps you out in a good way , or a bad way (bad CG)? <P> I like the ant scene, some crazy stuff going on there.
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Herrmmmm. <p> SEVEN SAMURAI NUMBER ONE BABY!! HELL YEAH! <p> Wait, Amelie as number 2? Uhhhh....
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nothing like been eaten alive..or dragged to your death into an anthill to be eaten alive..<P>**SHUDDERS**
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I think its very effective. And those ants are fucking real. They're in Africa, not South America, but those ants exist. I've been attacked by ants before, so that scene of watching a swarm of ants crawl over a dude creeps me out. Its great.
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on that list: CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON and Y TU MAMA TAMBIEN <P> No clue about the others.
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and I thought I had heard of similar kinds of ants. Africa makes a better home for them, I think...but it worked in CRYSTAL SKULL. <P> I like the fist fight while the ants swarm around.
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no one better try and stop me!
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I mean, the dude picks Indy up by his ear. His EAR! <p> And Indy gives him a nice 1-2 swinging double-punch.
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some i havent even heard of..<P>thank god for criterion otherwise...
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is when they mark the end of your Vacation...But I still have til Monday!!!!
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Sorry guys, but I got to side with the worst piece of crap raped my midlife crisis crowd on this one.
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just staying iside out of the heat and humidity...
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with the film. They just happen to be the first of many.
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Now I can praise you for your drawings you put up at the Shelter! I likey! <P> And those party invitations were cool too!. <P> Question: The Nekkid party....were people actually naked?
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a family vacation style. I'm thinking epic: <P> St. Louis to Grand Canyon.<BR> Grand Canyon to Zion National Park<BR> Zion to Arches National Park<P> Arches to Estes Park, CO<BR> Estes Park back to St. Louis
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and yeah, by at least 3 AM there were always naked people in the jaccuzzi...That's why you buy a jaccuzzi...<p>On the other hand, some of those people really should leave their cloths on...
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with the beer goggles on anyway.
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100 best non-English language films makes me realise just how much better English language films are!<p> I've seen some of those quite recently (CITY OF GOD, PANS LABYRINTH, AMELIE, OLDBOY, DOWNFALL, RUN LOLA RUN) and though they're all 'decent' enough movies none of them would make my personal top 100 all time faves.
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Ringu is ahead of it? Amelie is #2? WTF?
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shes so adorable..
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WTF? The Idiots? That piece of crap by Lars von Trier is unwatchable. It's like a bad VH1 reality show about a bunch of people that pretend to be retarded.
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…one of our supposed good friends was a young girl who had a back problem as long as we had known her…one party she slips and supposedly hurt herself in our jaccuzzi. She sued our homeowners insurance and we all had to go to depositions and an arbitration…<p>All these flyers and even our big sign in sheet (keepsakes to remember who was there) called called into evidence to show how hedonistic we were. Her lawyer tried to claim we had no business serving alcohol around a jaccuzzi and that we were engaged in “grab-assing“ which led to her injury…the judge at the arbitration just laughed as he dismissed all charges. I still have the depositions and they are HILARIOUS as 5 or six people try to put together and reconstruct what happened at a Cheeses party …that can’t be done even the next morning, much less weeks out…<p>“Mr. Nazareth, were there people naked in your jaccuzzi?” <p>“Of course, why do you think I bought the jaccuzzi?”
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on that list. But, the order is totally out of whack and there's a lot of WTF is that movie doing on thier.
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There was a lot of grab-assing going on.
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The Judge even asked her lawyer when "grab-assing" became a legal term...<p>Her lawyer was a stupid prick...
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about that and others of your swinging adventures.
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Cheeses, if I knew you were into grab-assing I would've made you a founder member of the Ass-Patter Squad yesterday...<p> Squeezes_of_Nazareth
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June 11, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST
Hell, I even drew grab-assing in the hot tub invitation...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
the guy in the lampshade and cowboy boots is grab-assing the bent-over blonde...<p>I figured that was warning enough...I mean seriously, if you got an invitation like that one, wouldn't you expect a LOT more than grab-assing to happen after midnight...really?
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Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!
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of the Ultimate Ass Kicking Drinking Squad.
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right now. I imagine a Ted Knight-like guy saying, "Listen, no grab-assing! You hear me, boys. I don't want any grab-assing! Not in my gentleman's establishment."
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than I see on others, in my view, but, yeah, Stabby's right, the order is all out of whack. That's because it's EMPIRE Magazine. They may be geeks who know better than your average American geek, but they're still geeks.<P>But, such is the thing with lists. As I said, there are so many great films on that list, I'm grateful for it.
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you didn't like THE HOST?<P>I thought it exposed CLOVERFIELD for the fraud it is.
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June 11, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST
One other time, the party had dwindled to 6-8 people….
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
We’re all naked in the hot tub. One totally hot blonde that worked with my Wife was sitting next to me while her husband was next to the Wife…the hot blonde is running her hands all over my legs underwater and I am happy that this was gonna happen!!! (if you know what I mean…)<p>Hot blonde gets out to go to the bathroom…a minute or two later, I get out to get beers…as I stand at the fridge, I hear hot blonde throwing up in the downstairs bathroom…I go check on her and she is okay, actually much better…I help her get cleaned up, rinse out her mouth etc, and she turns and gives me a big naked hug. My back is to the door and I hear it start to open. Blondie pushes it shut….ON MY WIFE!!!! <p>Oh, Jesus…WWIII broke out that night…See, it’s okay to do stuff…you just can’t be secretive about it…and she thought we were sneaking around…<p>Worst part, I still saw that hot blonde at every office function and every time I went to the Wife’s job…We never even spoke about it again…
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That's like putting Juno as the #2 American film of all time.
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But, as B Movie horror. The acting and plotting was comical. Should be nowhere near this list.
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What happened after she shut the door on your wife? Did WWIII breakout immediately?
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on Cheeses' life adventures.
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are the only two summer movies I'm kinda looking forward to.
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Party over, Man...
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I liked it, thought it better than CLOVERFIELD, but after I had heard about it I went in expecting the Korean JAWS.
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but now i just saw that Joe Pesci and Helen Mirren star as the Nevada brothel pioneers. I might hafta see this.
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Been too long
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June 11, 2010, 3:18 p.m. CST
☆☆RECOMMENDED RIGHT-BRAIN CINEMA☆☆™<P>THE DAMNED UNITED<P>
by Subtitles_Off
2008. British.<P> Directed by Tom Hooper (remaking EAST OF EDEN). <P>Starring Michael Sheen (THE QUEEN, FROST/NIXON), Colm Meaney ("Star Trek: TNG"), Timothy Spall (HARRY POTTER films), and Jim Broadbent (GANGS OF NEW YORK). <P> Recommended by Star Hump.<P> This one moves toward the top of the very short list of sports-themed films that move me. It's based on real events of British professional football and a coach's single-minded, obsession with his rivals, the brutish, cheating, champion thugs of Leeds United. Sounds typical? But, it isn't. For one thing, most of the actual sports action is archival footage or set in mud and pouring rain, so there's little of the forced romance that comes with a heroic score and choreographed, man-on-manufactured crunch. For another thing, despite the usual underdoggery and rah-rah, the focus really is on fairness - for the football - and personal ambition - for the characters. <P>By the time the underdog coach takes over the hooligans, he's been exposed as something of a conceited, foolish "twat," so there's nobody - on the "soccer" field, anyway - to root for. At that point, the film becomes more of the universal story of adult, male friendship ruined, and the climax has less to do with scores and winning than it does with lessons learned and honest sentiments, well-earned.<P>Don't worry, there's an unnecessary coda that reinforces the old cliches about nice guys and cheaters and their respective positions in the end. Of course there is. It's unlikely anybody'd tell the story if it didn't end in a pre-determined way, sports-wise. That's nothing to hold against it.<P>★★★★☆
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If it had been a straight horror film instead of including all the slapstick humor it could have been epic. The monster looked great and much of it was shot terrifically, like the scene under the bridge.
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and it pulled out every cliche in the book up to the end.
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5.Elephant Man 4.One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest 3.Life of Brian 2.Garage Girls 1.The Matrix
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The opposite of an unexpected ending can be just as forced and manipulative as a cliché.
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June 11, 2010, 3:29 p.m. CST
Is that in honor of the World Cup starting today, Subs?
by ColonelFatheart
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I didn't plan it.
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I'm already sick of it.
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Are you up for a bit of a chore today, Archival-ways?
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The U.S. has been eliminated.<P>Now we know how the rest of the world regards The Super Bowl and The World Series.
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I just watched my Flyers lose the REAL cup. And the Phillies suck! I'm done with sports for awhile. Not looking forward to another season of Andy Reid.
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WUT T F?!
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And FUCK THE EAGLES.
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i usually like his reviews..
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He's usually in hibernation until the new Madden comes out.
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en los pantalones.
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RIFFIFI is way too low, too.<P>And, as lots have said, AMELIE? Even if you adore that film. #2?<P>RINGU? Puh-leeze!
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and every once and a while you'll hear screams and groans from the people watching it on the 'puters.<P>when they are supposed to be working. who am i to complain, i talk to you guys all day. <P>its hilarious.
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*goes back to work*
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no way!
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The first one ended in a 1-1 tie. <p>The second ended in a 0-0 one.
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↑↑↑↑↑↑<br> RAN<br> RIFIFI<br> CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON<br> PERSEPOLIS<br> IKIRU<P> ↓↓↓↓↓↓ BATTLE ROYALE<br> DELICATESSEEN<br> RINGU<br> DOWNFALL<br> SUSPIRIA<br> GODZILLA<br> OLDBOY<br> PAN'S LABYRINTH (I love it but too high)<br> BATTLESHIP POTEMKIN (ditto, above - more of an historical treasure than a top 5 film of all time)<br> AMELIE (I'll beat that dead horse)<P> Besides, where are the films of Ozu? Where's SONGS FROM THE SECOND FLOOR?
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epic matches. 1-1!!! 0-0!!!
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Those games sound like real thrill-rides.
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usted tiene gatos en sus pantalones, Peluche?
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antes de que le rasguñen donde usted orina.
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Futbol is a low scoring sport. That doesn't mean the games lack excitement.<P>Would you say a Super Bowl that ended 14-7 necessarily lacked thrills? Of course not.
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I love me a good low-scoring baseball game, too. <p>I just find soccer generally boring, regardless of how relatively exciting it may be.
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TOKYO STORY!!!!<P>And, sorry, but you can't limit Fellini, Bergman, and Herzog to one film apiece.
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Too low @ #16.
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OK. But AMARCORD belongs on there, too.<P>I'll now go check to see if it is. HA!
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I might put that right behind AGUIRRE as my top non-English flick.
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probably let you slide (even though I think that's still too high for youknowwhat).
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I'm just glad it wasn't ignored.<P>And I'm tickled to see WAGES OF FEAR so high.
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i saw #2 and i knew i would post the list..<P>i mean thats ballsy..to have seven samurai and then amelie..de balls
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Tryin ta kill the pain.
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non-English animated films, PORCO ROSSO and LES TRIPLETTES DE BELLEVILLE.
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putting CITIZEN KANE on top of the Sight and Sound poll, a veritable cineaste cliche. <p>And, you know what? I'm completely cool with that. I'm glad Empire didn't get TOO iconoclastic for its own good. (Beside putting fucking AMELIE at No. 2, that is.)
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against < P >. Aside from the undeniable corridor scene, that wretch is mere bits and pieces.
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Nuff said.
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...of my favorite foreign language films involve lots of punching and kicking, so I'm pretty useless here.
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shortlist, according to slashfilm.com.
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the glee with which her fall from grace is being reported kind of shocks me.<P>She's pitchy? Madonna's never been anything on-stage but pitchy.<P>Beyonce lip-synchs, fer chrissy sakes.<P>I'm not saying it isn't unwise to try to "comeback" when you can't hit the high notes, but what good can come from beating a dog with broken hind legs?
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compared to some of those other names.<P>I mean, they all might be the same age, as far as I know, but dude already shaves.<P>Anybody remember Ess' personal fave's name? Has he gotten a look-at?
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Seriously demented film. Love it.
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BIN-JIP could go on that list instead of a number of those.<P>AU REVOIR L'ENFANTS<P><P>L'ENFANT or LE FILS<P>DIABOLIQUE
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GODZILLA being on that list. As if it didn't happen as long as we don't mention it.
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what did you get last night at the funny book store? Anything worth mentioning?
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DAWSON'S TREK. I never saw CHARLIE BARTLETT, and I know there was some stink lingering around that film, but I don't think said offense has anything to do with him.
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Its disturbing like an old Greek Tragedy is. I think its a great film.
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Avengers Academy-Ok for a first issue. <P> Hawkeye & Mockingbird-The same.
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JONAH HEX and a HELLBOY trade.
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I had to pick up the new Hawkeye series. It's...it's been too long. I missed the guy. Sure, he was running around with a sword and nunchucks, but it's not the same.
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The central premise is pretty interesting, and I like Christos Gage as a writer, so I'll probably stick with it for awhile. Plus, it's where Pym ended up after Siege, and I love me some Hank Pym action.
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What is "The Heroic Age?"
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It's the new 'branding' of the Marvel U, like the flip side of Dark Reign. Not so much a story, more like a banner to let you know where you stand. <P> Basically, it's a way to make every title part of an 'event'. Or a non-event. <P> Ok, it's shameless pandering, that's what it is.
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Everything back in its place?
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Osborn's in jail, Sentry's dead (It seems one blow from Thor turns Marvel's Superman into a skeleton), and Steve Rogers is the new top cop. Have you seen his new 'costume'? It's silly and I don't like it.
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Have a great weekend, fellas.
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Keep fuckin' that chicken.
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running around in a version of Fury's old suit. So has he been "outed." Everybody knows he was "Captain America," or no?<P>I did see something about one of the Fantastic Four being killed off. Don't they do that every other year?
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Miracle Man can take his place.
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Have a great weekend yourself.
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I don't think so. Prolly within the hero communtity and SHIELD. <P> Really, do an goog image search for Secret Avengers Steve Rogers. I wanna hear your opinion of Commander Rogers' new duds.
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I'm having a hard time finding Cap's new outfit. But he's not Cap anymore right?
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Thanks.
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But the last thing Marvel needs is a Superman. Didn't the whole Sentry fiasco teach them anything?
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June 11, 2010, 5:30 p.m. CST
Subs, Project complete and waiting in mailbox...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
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Without red and white stripes or a mask. <P>Granted can't really see it all that well in the images that came up.<P>My overall impression is "blah."
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that it's a different Captain America running around. I mean, I guess, how did they explain his return from the dead?
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You know, the one they TOTALLY left out of the WATCHMEN movie...
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don't offend me nearly as much as the new Cap costume.<P>Offend's not the right word, either. I just hate the black and the "V" shape.
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Without the time vagina.
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I just couldn't.<P>Have they fired David Finch yet?
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WTF?
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June 11, 2010, 5:40 p.m. CST
GAWD, the whole Batman thing really is just a direct cop,
by Subtitles_Off
isn't it? With just extra added suck.
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Racing to rip each other off. <P> It just occurred to me & Starman last night that the whole Osborn as top cop was a total ripoff of the whole President Luthor business. <P> Shit like this kills my passion for comics.
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Some-fucking-how. <P> And isn't it odd to see Moon Knight on a team? They got the crazy fucker in the pure white costume to join their espionage team? Tactical genius, that Rogers.
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June 11, 2010, 5:44 p.m. CST
Vades, don't read if you don't wanna know, RE:Nightcrawler
by Subtitles_Off
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I love Seven Samurai, and yes the plot seriously influenced a lot of movies, but the term "Rashoman" has basically entered the lexicon as the concept of people seeing things differently. Plus it led to one of the greatest Simpsons jokes ever: <P> Marge: C'mon, Homer, Japan will be fun. You like Rashomon. <P> Homer: That's not how I remember it.
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Just for old times sake and found a couple Legion/Superboy things I wanted, even picked off the stand…then as I was standing in line, I was looking at the art, which wasn’t all that great in either book I had picked…then I thought, why am I spending almost $10 for what will be approximately 20 minutes of enjoyment…<p>I put them both down and walked out…I just couldn’t justify the expense…
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It just doesn't read correctly.
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streak. Yes, RASHOMON > SEVEN SAMURAI, which tells you how great RASHOMON is, because SEVEN SAMURAI > anything.
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Not his, someone else's.
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Shortly after Secret Wars I. Yes, there was some good stories after that, but Marvel was always built on the idea of a shared universe with continuity. Sooner of later it would just get to big and explode. <P> That is why I think after every comic book age you should just end the damn thing and come up with new characters. I don't care if we are on Flash IV of Earth 4, at least that way they can't really fuck up my favorite character because he lives in his own world. <P> Batman and Superman excepted from this rule.
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I responded with one final request.
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It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. <P> Or maybe that is just the scotch.
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Really??!!?<P>"Oh my god, Kurt!" screamed Angel.<P>"Eh," said Cyclops. "You should see the other guy."
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A man after my own liver, ’Lop….’cept, Scotch? <p>Mmmm, I’ll stick to Crown…
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Crisis On Infinite Earths. Or, do you mean wholly new characters?
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Kurt got staked by a robot. Then BAMFed, taking the arm with him. <P> Gotta do some time on the floor. Back in an hour.
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SPOILER! <p> I read that it wasn't his own arm, he teleported into an area where a villain knew he was going to be, and he teleported with the dude's arm going straight through his chest. Ouch.
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When you let the thing just die off gracefully and then relaunch it after a short 4 or five year break with new characters (even if they are based on old characters). <P> The old Earth 1 & 2 thing, as corny as it was, was the best thing in DC.
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I only looked at the panel. I didn't read the book. It looked to me like it was his own.<P>Like the yolk broke when it BAMFed.
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As long as the two worlds weren't made to simultaneously co-exist.<P>I'd think, though, it'd be impossible to pull off now, with the competitive nature of things.<P>Kill off your "sorceror," for instance; the other guy will just beat you to it before you get back with their "wizard."
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LEGACY. Legacy diminishes everybody. batman's the greatest detective, well, until somebody else puts on the suit - then, he's the greatest.
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I totally agree, ‘Lop…they kept saying how hard it was for fans to figure out, and I was like What? It made perfect sense to me and did even when I was a kid…what was so hard to understand…I actually dug that E-2 had had it’s heroic age in WW2 and ‘our’ world was just time synced differently (here Kal El’s rocket landed in the 50’s instead of the 20’s)…I miss that…
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back the Elseworlds logo?
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GAWD. All this death! Now they've got me doing it!<P>A hero's story should NEVER end in death. Well, that's not true , either.<P>A hero's story should never end with the hero on his knees in failure.<P>That's not what comics need to be about. You got Life for that.
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http://tinyurl.com/2bpc5lo
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Black manta IS a black guy, right...that's how you can tell, when they are called 'Black Something'...
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At least that would be a story-based reason. You know, as opposed to a rapper who swims. Or a Rastafarian who escaped after being swallowed whole by a magical whale.<P>Or something like that.
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coming out of Brightest Day will be.<P>Just so I can get the shock and horror of it out of the way quicker.<P>Maybe it will be a sentient human-size time vagina.