Episode #8: “All on a Mardi Gras Day” Debut: SUNDAY, JUNE 6 As New Orleans gears up for its first Fat Tuesday since Katrina, Albert (Clarke Peters) is sent a less-than-celebratory message by the NOPD. Sonny (Michael Huisman) leaves Annie (Lucia Micarelli) to her own devices; LaDonna (Khandi Alexander) puts her bad news on hold; the Bernettes make a Mardi Gras appearance, though Creighton’s (John Goodman) heart isn’t really in it. Written by Eric Overmyer; directed by Anthony Hemingway.
Episode #9: “Wish Someone Would Care” Debut: SUNDAY, JUNE 13 Davis (Steve Zahn) concocts a remedy for the post-Mardi Gras blues; Annie makes a decision that Sonny takes personally; Janette’s (Kim Dickens) latest chef’s gig gets bogged down; Antoine (Wendell Pierce) becomes LaDonna’s unexpected benefactor; Colson (David Morse) warns Albert to avoid trouble on St. Joseph’s night; Creighton is inspired by a classic novel set in old New Orleans. Story by David Simon & George Pelecanos; teleplay by George Pelecanos; directed by Dan Attias.
Episode #10: “I’ll Fly Away” (season finale) Debut: SUNDAY, JUNE 20 Toni’s (Melissa Leo) concerns about Creighton turn to anger; Albert and the Indians suit up for St. Joseph’s night; Antoine gambles away a big payday; Davis tries to convince Janette to stay put; Annie weighs her future options. A funeral procession offers its mourners a chance to reflect on the events of the last year in New Orleans. Written by David Simon; directed by Agnieszka Holland.10 p.m. Sunday. HBO.
June 6, 2010, 1:45 p.m. CST
didnt keep my interest. I tried...
June 6, 2010, 1:48 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
I have really gotten into this series. It's slow and all over the place at first, but after the first 4 episodes, I found myself emotionally invested in the characters and want to see how their lives unfold.<p><p> "A funeral procession offers its mourners a chance to reflect on the events of the last year in New Orleans." This must be the funeral for Damo. LaDonna and Toni finding him finally, and *where* they found him was one of the most disturbing (subtle at first then depressing) moments I've seen in a TV drama.
June 6, 2010, 1:53 p.m. CST
by Red Ned Lynch
....but it hasn't built into a whole. And maybe I'm looking for something not intended to be there but I expected the stories to eventually knit together. Life is episodic, I know, but when narrative fiction is you kind of hope there's a point running through it. If The Wire was a novel as television so far Treme is more like a tone poem. <p> And although I don't hate Steve Zahn, I do kind of hate him in this.
June 6, 2010, 1:54 p.m. CST
Good mix of feedback so far. lol.
June 6, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
I referring to the NOLA punk, metal, blues and country genres. Then again you can only fit so much into a series, but it would be nice to see and hear some Dax Riggs in there somewhere.
June 6, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST
by maxin n relaxin
gave it a couple episodes, but just cant invest into another slow character piece.
June 6, 2010, 2:01 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
I agree. I'd like to see other music scenes, but maybe for the first season they decided to stick with the "traditional" NOLA jazz scene. But in the next season, I could see Sonny, and maybe Creighton and Toni's daughter Sophia when she gets older, getting involved in the more youthful, alternative music scenes.
June 6, 2010, 2:05 p.m. CST
I hope an HBO employee is reading this. Thanks for showing Taking Chance recently, one of the best things you all have done in years. You no doubt by now realize the shortcomings of The Pacific. I don't want to compare it to Band of Brothers either, but I mean come on. No one I know has even mentioned a word about The Pacific which really says something. I mean even I for a while was hiding behind the "it has to be historically accurate" defense, but I've had enough. True Blood is not a good show. Neither is that thing where that guy has a bunch of wives. And that fucking song on those commercials for Treme makes me want to put a bullet through my skull every time I hear it. But you are HBO so you can hide behind past successes while you sort your shit out. Also act like I'm one crazy person that happens to be alone in his thinkings, that should make you feel better. Whatever.
June 6, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST
the BP oil spill happened like 10 years after that
June 6, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
That was only 4 years ago, my friend. :^|<p><p>Regarding the time frame, it seems to jump between episodes from several days to several weeks. Which makes one wonder how far ahead Season 2 will be.
June 6, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST
It's the music. It took a few episodes for me to warm up to this series but I'm really digging it now.
June 6, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST
It's a show about artists. It's the only show I can think of that is about artists from every aspect (music, food, writing etc.) . It has well drawn characters, great acting, fantastic dialog, beautiful music and great direction. It takes place in what might be the saddest example of the decline of America in the 21st century. If you are looking for a plot heavy vehicle this ain't the show for you.
June 6, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST
Are you serious?? TAKING CHANCE was good but THE PACIFIC sucked? I thought the exact opposite. <br><br> I thought the pacific was crazy good. I liked it better than the BAND OF BROTHER'S even. <br><br> TAKING CHANCE, while it was a great and moving story, I thought was poorly executed. To each his own I guess.
June 6, 2010, 3:13 p.m. CST
all the kewl shows are using the trope now
June 6, 2010, 3:28 p.m. CST
June 6, 2010, 3:29 p.m. CST
...will bring us 3 weeks closer to AMCs "The Walking Dead".
June 6, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST
to detonate a readily available hydrogen bomb, in order to create an alternate timeline.Suprised HBO was okay with that, given the nature of the show
June 6, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST
Anyone else feel like the NWO has it in for the Crescent City for some reason? Maybe it's a field test for the real culling that's more than likely just around the corner.
June 6, 2010, 3:39 p.m. CST
Is the freaking Treme. Since it's not just a black neighborhood, but a cultural center for black musicians and artists for oh, I don't know, 200 years or so? Maybe that's why punk and metal aren't featured in the show.
June 6, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST
a spaceship, and we, the audience realize that in the show-realty, its REALLY the year 2045, and everyone is really an astronaut.The whole show was a simulation used while they hibernated for there years long space journey...to mars.The final shot is that of Gene Hunt's glorious white shoe touching down on mars..rather ambiguously.
June 6, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST
Once again, I'm a little disappointed that Herc posted the episode synopses through the end of the season. I was kind of hoping that Mardi Gras would be the denouement of the season finale. A glorious celebration to really show us why the characters on the show love their city so much. It looks like we'll possibly get something like that though, with a funeral parade. A celebration, of a sort, but with a more somber overtone rather than joyous. You know, that's actually a good fit for the show and city themselves. The thesis of the show is that, regardless of all the shit New Orleans goes through (of its own making or otherwise), it's still an incredible place to live.
June 6, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST
No, it's not Band of Brothers. It's something completely different.
June 6, 2010, 3:57 p.m. CST
I tried 2 get in2 this show but it's pretty boring, I gave it a try cuz I like Steve Zahn as well as da fact dat "The Wire" is heavily represented, but da fact remains I'm just not feelin this 1, guess I gotta wait till sept. when "Sons of Anarchy" comes back 4 some quality entertainment
June 6, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
WhatTheHellHappenedToMe: Yeah, you're right and it's obvious. That's why the series isn't called Orleans, I guess. I'm not familiar with the Treme, but are there any other musical styles represented in it, especially by the young (people who would fall under Sonny and Annie's demographic)? Or is the scene strictly NO jazz and fusion of R&B, some Cajun, etc.?
June 6, 2010, 4:16 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
It's really a different kind of format than what most TV viewers are used to. It's not a plot-driven show, but definitely a character driven one (perhaps more so than even The Wire). I've found the best way to watch Treme is to go into it with a mellow, chill mood, and sort of letting the show "absorb" you into it. Although there are dramatic moments, Treme isn't a traditional episodic/procedural formula, or a soap opera format. It's hard to describe. It could almost be a reality series, come to think of it.
June 6, 2010, 4:23 p.m. CST
I don't get HBO. I think all the pay movie channels should be free now. Why pay for movies that were in theaters 10 years ago?
June 6, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST
June 6, 2010, 4:36 p.m. CST
by Dradis Contact
I think they're not ad supported is the rationale.
June 6, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
I'm guessing premium cable channels are front-loaded with movies to serve as a means of convenience for channel surfers -- you flip through your cable line-up and happen upon a movie you haven't seen but wouldn't mind seeing, and it's right there on HBO/Showtime/Starz. So you don't need to Netflix it. These networks produce original series, such as Treme, to provide an "extra" to their subscribers, to help differentiate themselves from other networks, and to bring in ancillary revenue from these shows (i.e. syndication, DVD/Blu-ray disc sets, paid downloads, video-on-demand, movie spin-offs).
June 6, 2010, 4:56 p.m. CST
by Jim Jam Bongs
Consider this: When Alice In Wonderland starts to air on one of these premium cable channels, the chance is you'll most likely recall which network it airs on if you already know which TV shows (produced for that network) air on it. Shows like Treme and True Blood are produced to build and establish a brand identity, and to draw in and hold onto certain viewer demographics.<p><p>With this in mind, what I find interesting about HBO as of late is the fact that The Pacific was a relative ratings disappointment for HBO. But Treme has done quite well (so much so that it scored an early season renewal). Along with the success of True Blood, it suggests that the demographic of HBO has shifted toward females and upper-middle class urban males (straight-talk translation: African-American professionals), and away from older white males.
June 6, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST
Yeah, but why watch a fyllscreen movie even if it is HD? Why not just pop in a Blue Ray, or order a movie off On Demand. There's so much free stuff on On Demand, and you can order NEW movies for 2 days.
June 6, 2010, 5:09 p.m. CST
wish i had the 4 hours back that i spent on this...
June 6, 2010, 5:16 p.m. CST
Love the music and love the characters (though I'm not sure who's who yet). It's almost good enough to make me want to check out "The Wire"!
June 6, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST
I think people are just expecting something different from this show. It's definitely a slow burn, and look how some people complained about Battlestar Galactica being a slow show for christ's sake. Of course they won't be able to sit through a show with no pew-pew in it. True Blood is a great show too and better than just about anything on network TV right now. Anybody who wants to complain about HBO should wait until the Game of Thrones show hits the air next year. If it's half as good as the books it will make the Sopranos and The Wire look like Hannah Montana.
June 6, 2010, 5:31 p.m. CST
I've got it all on DVR, but have had absolutely zero motivation to watch it. Everything I've heard is that it's amongst the most boring shows ever filmed (and lest anyone think I'm a huge According to Jim fan, I was on the Wire bandwagon from minute 1 and consider it one of the best shows ever filmed). It just seems more like homework then a film I would actually WANT to watch. I heard the same negative things about the Pacific, gave it a shot with the 1st episode, and was stunned by how bland it was compared to Band of Brothers.
June 6, 2010, 5:33 p.m. CST
Although Galactica WAS a slow show, hes dead right, True Blood is far more entertaining and fun then some snooby circles will give it credit for, and Game of Thrones will blow everyone's collective doors off.
June 6, 2010, 5:59 p.m. CST
Really? i thought the first season flew by.
June 6, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST
Yeah it moves kind of slow but the investment is worth it IMO. <br> <br> Not a lot really happens, it's almost like a documentary following the lives of various people affected by Katrina but more importantly connected with the arts - like smokie says above it's first and foremost about artists. <br> <br> For a music fab it's joy as well, there is a LOT of performance in this, which as a non-jazz-fan I was initially wary of but has grown on me. I love how the music isn't just in there to tick NO boxes but also to develop the characters. I dunno, if you don't watch it it's hard to explain how watching folks play music can deepen your understsnding of their character but it's true. <br> There's a great part in episode 3 where Dr John is performing "My Indian Red" in a recording studio then at the end of the ep we see the same song performed in an entirely different context, chanted outside a dead man's house. It's great because it shows the different ways music is used - entertainment vs spirituality; performance vs expression - as well as having some nice character moments - Lambreaux Jr and his uneasy feelings about tradition; Lambreaux Sr and his dedication to that tradition <br> <br> I think I'm going to be controversial here and say I like it better than The Wire, I certainly feel it speaks more to the soul that that show did
June 6, 2010, 6:06 p.m. CST
Oh man I seriously cannot see how they're going to bring this to air - apart from the plot itself being uh, shall we say, a tad complex there's just the cost of creating this world. <br> I'm wodering if they're going to greenscreen it a la Spartacus??
June 6, 2010, 6:27 p.m. CST
Evidently they are filming in Ireland, where I guess it is dirt cheap to film.......? Thats what I heard anyway, so the end result is, no greenscreen.
June 6, 2010, 6:27 p.m. CST
That's is how is ends ... with me not watching it.<p>
June 6, 2010, 6:34 p.m. CST
people would be tripping over themselves to proclaim how awesome "The Pacific" was. It suffers by comparison because a) It's different b) it came second.
June 6, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST
Excellent point. I also like to compare The Pacific and BoB with a nice analogy. BoB is to The Pacific as Saving Private Ryan is to The Thin Red Line. <BR><BR>Oh, incidentally, I love all the philistines coming in to tout the fact that they're not watching, or that they find it boring. I'm sure there's some Reality TV crap on the broadcast networks for you to watch. Enjoy.
June 6, 2010, 7:14 p.m. CST
I miss it A LOT.
June 6, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST
by The Bicycle Sharer
Running his big, fat, retarded mouth, claiming that WWII, specifically the war in the Pacific, was racist and against "people who looked different from us." That perspective alone, from one of the producers, kept me FAR away from it. And I freakin' LOVED Band of Brothers. Read the book. Bought the DVDs. Forrest Gump left a sour taste in my mouth, though, with that comment and ruined any chance I have of ever enjoying The Pacific.
June 6, 2010, 8:19 p.m. CST
Are you so retarded that you're seriously going to argue that xenophobia didn't play a HUGE role in the Pacific theater (on both sides)? A GIS for war propaganda would provide dozens of examples of racist imagery.
June 6, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST
June 6, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST
Think I will try again with this show from ep 3, have a few double espressos and give it a chance. <p> I think like many others when I heard the premise, and knew that the guy behind the Wire was behind it, I was thinking of a very different show than what I have seen so far. Clearly an incorrect assumption.
June 6, 2010, 8:33 p.m. CST
It's like a bad documentary. And no one is watching it. If The Wire was the best show no one ever saw then Treme is the best new show no one wants to watch. Cancel it already, please, and get your shit together HBO.
June 6, 2010, 8:40 p.m. CST
Shut up. For the love of David Simon. Shut the fuck up.
June 6, 2010, 8:47 p.m. CST
by Out of your element
June 6, 2010, 8:47 p.m. CST
by Out of your element
Boardwalk Empire comes out soon. Looks like the most promising HBO show in a while.
June 6, 2010, 9:02 p.m. CST
...to write the season's penultimate episodes? He did that for every year of the Wire and with Treme...
June 6, 2010, 9:53 p.m. CST
June 6, 2010, 10:27 p.m. CST
"If you dont like (fill in the blank show, in this case Treme) clearly your a retard who only watches Big Brother." Yawn. I can only speak for myself, but I havent seen a single episode of any half-hour sitcom in years outside How I Met Your Mother. No Big Bang Theory, no Two and a half men, no nothing. Maybe, and here's a though, Treme is just boring as hell even for people of an educated background.....? Here's the thing: no one can actually tell me why exactly I should watch this show. I can tell you exactly what I loved about The Wire, or Rome, or why I thought Kings was actually criminally underrated, or why I love Mad Men (yes, even the start of the 3rd season, although that 3rd episode was god-awful), or why I loved Band of Brothers for that matter. Unfortunately, no one seems to be able to pin down why exactly Treme is actually good. Usually in these talkbacks you get the same answer, "Ummmmm hmmmm well, you kinda have to see it.....tone poem......kinda slow.....takes like 6 episodes to get into it.......good music.....mumble mumble blah blah".
June 6, 2010, 11:10 p.m. CST
HB-hOpeless. As if Katrina and the oil spill were not bad enough they had to inflict this horrible show on New Orleans. <p> Watch "Breaking Bad". That's a show!
June 6, 2010, 11:35 p.m. CST
Haven't seen the show. Meh. I guess HBO don't care about black people
June 6, 2010, 11:38 p.m. CST
Yeah, I say the exact same thing when people tell me to go watch Heroes when I trash Lost (for the record, I don't watch Heroes). <BR><BR>Anyway, there have been plenty of arguments regarding the merits of Treme in Coaxial talkbacks. Personally, I love Treme because of the expansive cast of incredibly well-written characters performed impeccably by gifted actors. I love the insight Simon has into New Orleans society and the social commentary in his writing. Pace? I don't give a shit about the pace. I just love seeing these characters and learning about their lives and the city they live in and love.
June 6, 2010, 11:39 p.m. CST
gooseud: "Unfortunately, no one seems to be able to pin down why exactly Treme is actually good." <br><br> That's one of the reasons I like the show. I guess I just dig the culture it represents. It's something fresh. No need to hate on people who like it. <br><br> People used to say the same thing about the Wire.No one liked The Wire in the first season as much as they did after the second and third season. I used to try my hardest to convince people to watch it and they would say it's boring and uninteresting.Granted The Wire had more of a definitive situation to follow than Treme. <br><br> Deadwood didn't have many viewers either and look what happened to that masterpiece. The cancellation of that show was one of the greatest tragedies in the history of television.
June 6, 2010, 11:41 p.m. CST
David Simon has Pelecanos write the penultimate episodes because he knocks it out the park every time. The man can do no wrong and I look forward to seeing some of his books make it to the big screen some day.
June 7, 2010, 12:05 a.m. CST
O M F G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 7, 2010, 12:15 a.m. CST
This is going to end exactly the way The Wire did and Madmen will, with no one (but me and a few others) actually watching the show until the series is over, and suddenly it's the best show ever, and you were fans the entire time! Trust me, it's going to happen...
June 7, 2010, 1:54 a.m. CST
But RedJester is dead-on right. This is an amazing show. You have to start at the beginning and let yourself get sucked in. Sure, it's a slow starter... but it's one of the most rewarding shows I've ever seen. And it looks like now we get a more active character in David Morse next week. This is all coming to a head and believe me it is worth your time and attention. Not a lot of action, none of the genre stuff we usually come on here to geek out on, but some of the best characters on TV and music that will surprise you even if you're like me and are not generally attracted to the style.
June 7, 2010, 4:16 a.m. CST
It should continue on the time line it has now.
June 7, 2010, 4:25 a.m. CST
to like Treme is that it's the most immersive show on TV. You can't see the writers and their shitty devices coming from a mile off, and you get barring smell-o-vision, you get a full sensory experience of the up-river New Orleans. Prof: Yes, people in the treme listen to hip hop and alternative, but it's not the staple there. Much like people in Charlotte might eat sushi, but it's still a BBQ town.
June 7, 2010, 4:40 a.m. CST
that the headline meant Treme was really ending for good. Not that the show sucks but its boring and I want Simon working on something better then this for the next few years.
June 7, 2010, 6:39 a.m. CST
honestly, I'm not. All I'm saying is, it seems like one of the few shows that may actually be good (and I admit, it has merit) that may not be everyone's cup of tea. It seems to be one of those "I love it, but if you don't, I understand". Mine is Fringe. Its amazingly, eye rollingly dumb, but I find it shamelessly entertaining. Obviously not everyone's cup of tea, however. IT really shouldnt even be mine LOL but what can I say, I'm a sucka for Anna Torv.
June 7, 2010, 9:17 a.m. CST
and it is actually better. no shitty jazz, no annoying Zahn or Goodman, and since there is no story or plot, there is nothing to really miss with no sound.
June 7, 2010, 10:45 a.m. CST
Do yourself a favor and rent the 1st season of the Wire and do it NAO. The Wire shats all over Treme, its really not even close.
June 7, 2010, 10:46 a.m. CST
I have tried every "Soprano replacement" out there. Deadwood was good,I like Big Love, I even sat through every episode of John From New Jersey or what ever it was called (I keed). But living directly on the Gulf Coast and even being a life long Saints fan can not make me want to watch New Orleans on tv. The mayor of that city fucked them up so bad they still don't know right from left. I just don't get how no tv or movie in the history of the media can get that shit right, every one shown as being from New Orleans has to talk like Dennis Quaid from "Big Easy"? Really? Not every one in the city sits around eating gumbo and listening to the Neville Brothers and Dr.John while dreaming about Mardis Gras all fucking day long. It's annoying.I'm guessing people from New York and Texas have the same complaints about how they are protrayed.
June 7, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST
I think I will - especially now that there's so little of value on the tube during the summer. Thanks for the push!
June 7, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST
Nothing would have turned me off faster to Treme than if they had gone the laughably typical route and given every character a super-thick Cajun accent. For someone who doesn't live on the Gulf, who has only visited New Orleans a handful of times, Treme is fantastic about populating the rich cultural world unique to New Orleans, but definitely moving beyond the tourist vibe of the French Quarter. I'm absolutely loving this show, realizing unlike most talkbackers here, that it isn't a southern-fried "Wire" and was never meant to be.
June 7, 2010, 1:09 p.m. CST
People went into Treme thinking it was the Wire and went into the Pacific thinking it was Band Of Brothers. It’s almost impossible not to but you have to keep telling yourself that you must learn to love them for what they are not what you want them be. Treme is a slow methodical character drama. When I first started watching the Wire I didn’t really like it but stuck with it. I fell in love with the shows attention to detail and character development. The Pacific was never supposed to be about a group of guys looking out for each other. It was suppose to be about the isolation of the Pacific campaign. It was how brutal those battles where and how they turned good men into cold blooded killers.
June 7, 2010, 1:11 p.m. CST
Is simply smoking hot.
June 7, 2010, 2:45 p.m. CST
I mean, I love NOLA but this is some boring shit. But I would like to fuck the shit out of Khandi Alexander.
June 7, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST
....for the first three episodes. If it doesn't capture my imagination by that time I let it go, which I did, because it didn't. Derivative, slow, unremarkable characters. You would think anything with Khandi Alexander, John Goodman, and Steve Zahn would have more soul, especially since it is set in N'Orleans, but it doesn't. Poorly written and hard to follow because it jumps from one story to another without complete explanations. You just kinda have to know what is going on, but you can't because nothing is ever really explained. Great music but the writing never really lets me invest in the characters.
June 7, 2010, 3:56 p.m. CST
June 7, 2010, 6:49 p.m. CST
How the show ends, as long as it ends? This is the same boring, pretentious political bullshit that ruined so much of The Wire (which was otherwise a good, although not great, show.)
June 8, 2010, 5:58 a.m. CST
She's a week away from turning 45 .... and as far as I can tell from her prancing around in her Mardi Gras costume last week, flawless. I'm putting her in my over 40 list, with Mary Louise Parker. Let's just say the only thing she'd be cooking it my kitchen is a batch of my nut-butter souffle. Hey-OOOOOOOOOO.
June 8, 2010, 8:32 a.m. CST
the Eugene Sledge and Snafu stuff was gold. Everything else not so much. By the way, the first T.V. blogger to see the Game of Thrones pilot said they "knocked it out of the park". http://www.tele visionaryblog.com/2010/05/cha nnel-surfing-glee-ge ts-third-sea son.html