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Holy Credit Dauphin!! ABC Wants J.J. Abrams To Bring Back ALIAS??
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Unexpected!
J.J. Abrams has a new NBC show this fall called “Undercovers” that sounds on paper like a sequel to “Alias,” and now comes word that a desperate and “Lost”-deprived ABC is talking to Abrams about resuscitating his “Alias” franchise.
From Wanda Two Saints at E!:
Again, it's only very initial talk at this point, but I'm told that the development folks over at the Alphabet network are considering doing a new version of Alias that would borrow some elements of the original series that starred Jennifer Garner (and Michael Vartan, Victor Garber and some guy named Bradley Cooper who must have slipped into oblivion since). But the series would most likely not include any sort of complex mythological throughline such as the Rambaldi prophecy (a storyline that lost some of the fans).
The original series, which ran five seasons, only sputtered to a close four years ago this month!
“Lost” was the network’s top series this season, and a number of ABC's other biggest hourlongs – including “Desperate Housewives,” “Grey’s Anatomy” and “Brothers & Sisters” - have seen sharp ratings declines this season. The only ABC freshman hourlong to find renewal this year was “V,” which in adults 18-49 fell from a 5.0 last fall to a 2.1 for its 12th episode and season finale.
A new "Alias" sounds just as nutty as the news that Universal is throwing money at Bryan Singer to get a big-screen "Battlestar Galactica" movie (a "Battlestar Galactica" movie that has nothing to do with the 21st century Ron Moore version) off the ground.
I must say I was a huge "Alias" fan during its first season and a half, but I can't imagine anyone's too anxious to see a reprise of such a fucked-out franchise so soon after its uninspired, inglorious demise.
The pilot would probably have to be as good as the original "Alias" pilot to get me back, and that 2001 "Alias" pilot was way-too-good-for-a-TV-pilot great.
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Seventh season bitches!
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alternate dimension travellers, or Miles and Sawyer as buddy cops that investigate paranormal crime.
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In this new version, a team of television execs strive to revive their network only to discover in the end it's just a place they made in the afterlife to find each other again.
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Jun 01, 2010 12:32:03 AM CDT
Would Garner go back to the gig? Is she really a movie star?
by tall_boy66
C'mon, last I saw she was the chick role in Ghosts of Girlfriend's Past. I can't see her tearing up the box office.
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I understand the concept of backing a proven winner but there isnt one original idea out there atm????
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Jun 01, 2010 12:43:27 AM CDT
Better Late Than Never News - this was reported last week
by juansanchez
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Couldn't get any better than that. That show sucked so fucking hard. Even most of the inital fanbase dumped the show after the first season.
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You guys don't like Caprica? It's the same pretentious crap but without the space battles.
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The problem seems to be that all the new show's on the way look pretty shit, and unintelligent.... Someones also bringing back a remake of "Nikita" too, maybe they think if the people responsible for that can get away with it , ABC can get away with remaking Alias (Zzzz)... Why can't they just give us something new and original FFS?!!...Even BSG wasn't so much a remake as a totally new show with a few concepts from the old one, why do we need a new film version ,which will ultimately be shit...?
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It wasn't always great, but it was consistently good. I'd definitely be interested in checking this out if it goes forward (which probably won't happen).Oh yeah, and bring back Serenity, bitches!!
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Doctors, please.
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Heard that died before its time. Bring that back.
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And Bryan Singer's BSG MUST BE BETTER than 'They're Angels' and 'God Did it' and 'Let's throw all our technology into the sun'.
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It nuked the fridge and leapt the shark in a fridge at the end of Season 2 when Sydney woke up 2 years in the future. It never recovered after that stupid move.
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but they should keep ALIAS II light and ridiculous. More encephalogram satellites and less al Qaeda.
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is appropriate for the superbowl episode. it was actually good, and the show became crap after it.
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Welcome to last week, guys. I guess you were too busy jerking off to Scott Pilgrim news to even notice.
Back on topic, this is terrible, terrible idea. Anybody who is for remaking a show that only ended four years ago should fuck off and die. -
and it's called Chuck. Complete with a mother who was supposed to be dead but wasn't after all (and is probably a bad guy)!
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Actually, bringing back Alias to fill in the Espionage gap left by the departing 24 is not the mistake. The mistake was canceling Alias in the first place. The mistake was thinking that the show was about Sydney Bristow and had to end when Garner quit the series. Even with Bristow and Vaughn retired and Sloane defeated, they had enough new cast members and premises to keep going with A.P.O. as a modern era U.N.C.L.E. series.
Jennifer G. Affleck was the Anna Torv from a decade ago: a woman who can play beautiful in the right lighting and makeup without technically being pretty. Alias had at least four female regulars who were more attractive than she was, including the one playing her mom.
To recap, bringing back Alias would be a great idea. Bringing back Garner, not needed. -
You've been listening to too much Carolla
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Doing a REAL Battlestart Gallactica based on the old series/movies as opposed to the recent cable TV series would be a wie move. I didn't care for the recently concluded redux version. Where are the REAL cylons? Why he fuck are they not badass chrome robots anymore but instead are Austin Powers fembots? Why the fuck is Starbuck a chick? Bring back the cores of the REAL Battatlestar Gallactica PLEASE!!!
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I thought the second half of season 2 Alias was pretty great also, right up to and including the three-year leap forward of its season finale.
it was the complete and utter failure of season 3 to make good on that bold leap that, in hindsight, doomed it. It seemed like every season after that was a more jumbled and pointless version of what came before.
also, Alias without the Rambaldi mythology? Like Hamlet without the Prince.
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ABC are driving me insane. First they make Scrubs blah by squeezing a lame duck season out of it, then they cancel FlashForward (which I guarantee would fly up in ratings after Season 1 hit DVD/Blu) to help float their female oriented ugh-fests; Grey's Blah, Private Blah, Cougar Blah, and Desperate Putrid Blah (which will all go out slowly and painfully - a season or two each at most). Now they're rebooting Alias, minus the big arch, four years after anyone who cared got over it. Fuck you, ABC. You're stupid. Can anyone tell me why they must do what is obvious to everyone here as ridiculous on such a grand scale?
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not three years.
the two-year leap forward could have been great, if only they'd matched it with something truly compelling, like Arvin Sloan being President or Pope or UN Secretary General or something. Instead, he was like the head of some fucking relief agency or something, and the whole show began its three-season circle of the drain. -
..actually jumped over an actual shark. And it was like the best episode ever.
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Thanks for ruining 6 seasons of LOST for me - i been managing to avoid the spoilers and only had 2 episodes left to watch. Then you sneak the that line into this piece on Alias and it aint even funny, or witty - it's just a spoiler you fucking shitheads. I shoulda stuck with Slashfilm.com!AIC, sucks my sad balls.
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What a coincidence! What are the chances?
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Would be cool for Sloane to return. Seasons 1 and 2 were awesome, Season 3 was OK, Season 4 sucked, and Season 5 was on par with 3. The 2-hour finale was badass, however.
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Imagine a mini-series that told independent, single-episode tales set in the Lost universe. One ep could deal with off-island Richard, one with the Egyptans, one with Kelvin in his hatch. Wouldn't that be awesome. You know it would!
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the whole series was great from beginning to end
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People actually stopped watching because of Rambaldi?
There's no point bringing Alias back, they'll just fuck it up with the studio interfering again. -
Having Jack Bristow die to take down Sloane was interesting, albeit a tad goofy, but he was the Man every step of the way. In my mind, there can be no more Alias without Jack Bristow, and bringing him back would be super cheap.
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and not leave the show once he's done with creating the pilot, once he leaves the shows he's created and doesnt concentrate on them, they falter.
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Seriously, I stayed with the show till the end, doesn't matter how absurd it got (In fact: that was what I liked the most about the show. The world they built, where secrent agent business is almost sa absurd as in Get Smart, but with a serious tone), but prophecies and stuff like that belong in Fantasy shows and not in a Spy thriller.
If I remember right, they didn't mention Rambaldi until the 2nd episode (although his device was prominently featured in the pilot) and that was what ruined it for me. The pilot was a kick-ass secret agent thriller and then suddenly they added some Nostradamus/Da Vinci mumbo jumbo to the mix. I was so happy when Sloane told in S3 his (unfortunately fake) story, of how he solved the Rambaldi mystery and got over it, but then they picked it up again.
But to be honest: Unless this is a spin-off, where we see at least from time to time some of the familiar characters and not a re-boot where they tell the same story with different actors, I'm not really interested and I doubt that the audiences are too. -
...I love Lucy, Gomer Pyle, Dallas, M*A*S*H and ALF complete with (oooooh) shaky cam, tits and in 3D. Because every film and TV show now, has to utilize the old shaky cam trick - buy the man a fucking tri-pod!
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In a complete panic after losing ratings giant LOST, they suddenly start spitballing the returns of shows they never even aired in the first place -
NOWHEREMAN
VERONICA MARS
ANGEL
HEROES
BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER
MOONLIGHT
STATE OF MIND
LAW & ORDER
THE CLEANER
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I loved ALIAS. It was our introduction to the people who would go on to make LOST. Specially the music end of things.
They should not reboot it though.
Its not Garners career ever took off, or Vartans.
Bring them back. Have some old enemy organize a hit on the entire family as payback.
Vartans character and the two kids... dead!
Now Sidney has to cope with the death of her family and try to find out who was behind their death.
She reaches out to Dixon who is now director of the CIA.
He sets her up with a team comprised of old friends and some new faces.
Bring back Marshall and Weiss as the intelligence dept.
Then in subsequent seasons have it be about some secret cabal (as per the Alias handbook), who is trying to find Arvin Sloane (who is now a trapped under ice immortal) because they have found a link between Rambaldi and the Valenzetti Equation and he is the only one who might have the answers they seek.
The new super secret cabal is a division inside of something called the Department of Heuristics and Research on Material Applications. It is run by Daniel Faraday, but he takes orders from another man.
Plot Twist = At the end of season 1 she finds the people responsible for her families death.
Fueled by revenge she is moments away from killing the supposed "big bad" of the show.
But before she can kill him he tells her that her little daughter is actually not dead. The dead body was a clone. And he knows where she can find his daughter... but only if she lets him go.
He tells her that he works for a man named Benjamin Linus who believes her daughter is special, and the key (along with another boy named Aaron Littleton-Austen) to finally unlocking the greatest mystery/power in the world.
*POOM*
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I will take my payment in cash please.
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made it stand out from the typical genre, but was also the cause of its flaming demise.There are more than enough spy shows on the schedule already, don't see a need for another.
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That's the important question. Or are they going to reboot it with a new leading actress?
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Jun 01, 2010 6:46:14 AM CDT
The ending to an Alias reboot should be purgatory.
by ooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuutttttlllllaaaaa
They'll never see it coming.
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Aparently, ALIAS was never a huge show. It had constant ratings and a loyal following, but it was never big.
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Of cours,e that's HBO. but if ther eis a show that would need a return is CARNIVALE, to say that the story was left in the middle is an understatment. It didn't even reached the middle of the projected story arcs. Man, my love for CARNIVALE has no limits. Fuck ALIAS, bring back CARNIVALE.
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At this rate, everything is going to be remade. Roll on remake, reimagine, reboot, whatever.
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...they shouldn't have cancelled Flashforward. Alias season 3 would have been better with the 2 yr jump if they revealed halfway through the season that Syndey was in fact a double, that would have been a mind bending twist.
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And I watched the whole thing in one sitting. I love season 3.
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My problem with Alias was that they hyped it as a spy/action show, but there was way too much "chick" stuff in it. A little too much Falicity thrown in. If they bring the show back, more action, less girly stuff.
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C'mon. That show will SAVE the network singlehandedly.
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I leave you to discuss.
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.....so why not ALIAS? man, how do I do miss CUPID(Piven version)!!
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Jun 01, 2010 8:48:06 AM CDT
"From the people who brought you LOST."
by ooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuutttttlllllaaaaa
(Please watch our network. Please.)
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Most expensive pilot ever. Unbelievably ambitious. Location shooting in hawaii. throws nearly a dozen main characters at you to care about. And really nothing quite like it to compare to. While Alias is a Modesty Blaise/Mission Impossible updated to the next millenia
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And I forgot about all that Ralmaldi crap. Yeah, that stunk.
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seems to be playing catch up lately... this news reported almost a week ago?
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JJ's original pitch for Alias was two words long: Felicity superspy. That may or may not be true, but it's what he delivered.
As I recall, the Rambaldi nonsense as added when Fox moved X-Files opposite Alias so ABC had supernatural elements added to the spy show in order to compete.
Marshall. Weiss. Spydaddy Jack Bristow. The additional characters added to the cast during Garner's maternity leave - there's your cast.Leave Sloane in his immortal hell, leave Sydney and Vaughn retired - or bring them back for a single arc at most. Focus on A.P.O. and the espionage and the disguises and the damsels in distress bondage and bdsm, the action, the violence - maybe toss in a little sex, not too much romance, but something for the wives and girlfriends to watch too.
Hopefully they will NOT relaunch, reinvent or rethink Alias. Just pick it up as if it never left and keep going. they had a two year leap, let this be a real time four year leap between episodes.
They brought back Family Guy, they are bringing back Futurama. No one assumed they were new shows with the same name. Just bring back Alias the same way. Add new characters if you must, just put them in the same old show. All spies, no magick and mythology.
Seriously, though. People say Abram;s Undercovers is about a married and retired spy couple returning to the fold. Recycled Alias. So let his have his alternate universe versions of Sydney and Vaughn and just do Alias without them. What TV does NOT need are two versions of the same show.
What would be cool but can't happen: get the rights to She-Spies and add those characters to the Alias canon. Heck, She-Spies tried to be Alias Lite during their second season - why not make it official.
The person who cited Get Smart had it right: Alias was in the tradition of the '60s Spy Spoofs. A little Mission Impossible master of disguising, a dash of U.N.C.L.E. super-espionage, some I-Spy globe-trotting and the inexplicable weirdness of The Prisoner.
Best Alias moment; maybe from the pilot, Sydney is tied to a chair and does a complete forward flip that beaks her torturer's neck with the cross bar of the chair.
Best Alias line ever: "Hello, My name is Marshal Brinkman and I'm here to rescue you."
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Community = funniest show since Arrested Development
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But please bring Victor Garber's Jack Bristow back from the dead first. At times, Jack was more Batman than Batman.
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"i been managing to avoid the spoilers and only had 2 episodes left to watch. Then you sneak the that line into this piece on Alias and it aint even funny, or witty - it's just a spoiler you fucking shitheads."I didn't remember reading one, went back to see what it was, still can't find it. What was the "spoiler"? The only one I can find concerning Lost is the one near the top regarding Faraday and time cops. Is that it, because it ain't really a spoiler. Or was the offending remark deleted? Or is he kidding? After all, reading Talkback comments on a story about an ABC show, by JJ Abrams, when trying to avoid Lost spoilers is kind of like hanging out with your ex-wife's friends when you are ducking her.
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Jack Bristow: "What's a spork?"
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Jun 01, 2010 9:17:17 AM CDT
i liked the part where Locke exploded into little smoke monster
by dioxholsterreturns
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also, yes yes and more yes!
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Jun 01, 2010 9:20:28 AM CDT
Smokers should be nicknamed Smoke Monsters from now on
by dioxholsterreturns
lets make it happen, i hate smokers so this works for me.
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If I knew going in that the sideways universe on LOST was purgatory I MIGHT not have shouted "FUCK OFF" at my TV very loudly when Christian Shepherd offered up a one-line explanation for a whole season's worth of storyline.
But I have to agree, if you're trying to stay spoiler free, best not hit a JJ Abrams TB, in fact, best to stay away from AICN altogether. -
loved the Dues Ex Machina in the end when God showed up
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Except that they had no idea what the endgame was, and the show constantly ret-conned and added new and increasingly unbelievable, make-it-up-as-you-go nonsense, which led to the series sucking ass it's last two years (and, many argue, for most of season 3). Sound like any other Abrams show we know about?
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Jun 01, 2010 9:43:45 AM CDT
The Jack and Sawyer last minute homosexual relationship was unne
by ooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuutttttlllllaaaaa
It didn't really fit with their characters, but I guess they needed to explain the mystery.
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Jun 01, 2010 9:43:59 AM CDT
a "Battlestar Galactica" movie that has nothing to do with the 2
by jimmy rabbitte
The last three-and-a-half seasons of Moore's BSG were as plodding and impenetrable as anything I've ever seen on television. I'd love to see Singer infuse some fun and action back into the Galactica name. Just make sure that Eick and Moore have *nothing* to do with it... and issue a shoot-on-sight order, in case Jane Espenson tries to crash a story meeting.
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Jun 01, 2010 9:45:18 AM CDT
Stargate has never been "make-it-up-as-you-go nonsense"
by dioxholsterreturns
in fact they plan ahead 5 years in advance. all that stuff like Atlantis was contemplated from the first season of SG-1, its a well made show, and now we have Stargate Universe or SGU to those who hate the word stargate, and its one of the most beautifully shot shows on TV. no wonder Alastair Reynolds called it the best sci fi ever made for TV.
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Sheer genius.
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Jun 01, 2010 9:45:44 AM CDT
Season 3 opening credits signalled the end of the show...
by danielkurland
When the opening credits became a montage of Sydney in hot outfits, and that this is what the show was now capitalizing on.
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Jun 01, 2010 9:50:49 AM CDT
Locke killing himself AGAIN was the most surprising!
by dioxholsterreturns
Jack: "you failed Locke, you cant leave this place now"
Locke: "man this is so depressing, do you have a rope i can use?"
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I enjoyed the show, especially the first season, but has anyone else noticed that she has not successfully completed a single mission without fucking it up in some way?
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My first thought was fantastic!! Then I remembered seasons 4 and 5. People say this show had maybe the best 1st 2 years of any TV show or at least 1 of the best but even season 3 was pretty damn good. Melissa George was so hot back then and I loved that season. But how can you have Alias without Cooper and with the SD-6 boss gone for good? No way Cooper comes back and I don't even see Garner coming back. She does 2-3 movies a year and has what 2 kids now? I would be happy as fuck if it could be worked out but its probably better off if it doesn't happen.
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Well, that statement & your love of SGU (the shittiest sci-fi show ever), means I now officially have the right to break into your house & wipe my balls all over your sleeping mother.
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Jun 01, 2010 10:15:39 AM CDT
It was the soap opera shit that made me give up on ALIAS
by asimovlives
I'm all for drama in a genre show like a spy show, or Sf show or horror. But one thing is drama, another is soap opera bullshit. And ALIAS had soap opera bullshit to the neck. And teen soap opera bullshit at that. So i turned by back on that show and never regreated it. If i ever want to see Sydney fighting another woman, the only thing that would even make me bother watch anything relating to ALIAS, there's always Youtube. And you know what, fuck that shit! CHUCK has better girl fights, anyway, with hotter actresses.
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No, really, is that true? Black magic, prophecies, all that fucking nonsense? What the fuck does that have anything to do with a fucking spy show that was already stretching things way too much by having a teen spy as a protagonist? GIVE ME A BREAK!
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Yes the 2 year leap sucked but the season as a whole was entertaining. And I agree with Asmiov, Carnivale should be allowed to continue on. There is an audience out there for this stuff.
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They need the Rambaldi stuff. If they're going to reboot and do another ALIAS, to fill the gap left by LOST, they need to follow the mythology. The mission based spy stuff is being done on other shows - Chuck, NBC's new one, Human Target, etc. - they need another mythology based show that is well done. I agree it didn't fit in the original ALIAS well, but that's because it was introduced later. It worked in LOST because it was upfront in the pilot.
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The real screw-up was moving away from that. They should have just left JJ alone and not meddled with the show. The thing was already a hit and the suits just could not stop fucking around with it and it suffered as a result.
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Jun 01, 2010 10:35:06 AM CDT
Bring back Rachel Nichols | Bring back Rachel Nichols | Bring ba
by snowpuff
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Jun 01, 2010 10:36:30 AM CDT
Smart to have Abrams lose the mythology since he can't explain
by snowpuff
any of the cool ideas he comes up with. Might be why he once wrote an essay trying to claim that hey it's the journey that matters not the ending or meaning of it all.
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I loved this show, even through it's silly late run, A welcome return this would be.
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Jun 01, 2010 10:41:15 AM CDT
Smokers are vile creatures who feast on children's souls
by dioxholsterreturns
you miserable fuck, no wonder you hate stargate, its geared towards non-smokers
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That Happy Days episode is the only one I can remember seeing when it originally aired.
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More of a Nostradamus-esque prophecy type thing. Prophecy and destiny shit. Wasn't like there was spells and voodoo and shit.
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To do a Lost spin-off? Something preferably with a lower budget? Not that Darlton would be biting, but ABC execs gotta be thinking: "Come on! Hurley and Ben? Dharma Days? After Lost? Desmond Hume: International Man of Mystery?
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I remember finding the "jumping the shark" one boring. For me, Happy Days was all about the Fonze either hitting something improbable to make it work, or to do something improbable, or snapping his fingers to make his Svengalized woman-slaves do his bidding, or to make things happen. Also to hear him talk. And give a thumbs up. Aaaayyyyy!
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She is the only thing that made the show a hit.
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hopefully people will have realised what an excellent show that was.
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I liked the Rombaldi stuff, I stuck with the show until the end.(It would have been nice however to have the payoff in the last ep of a 450 year old Rombaldi waiting for Sydney to show up. If that clock maker from the first season could be that old why the hell not?) I even tolerated the crazy zombie plot of season 4 (I think that's when it was) For me the show lost it with the whole bullshit Vaughn isn't who he says he is reveal at the start of season five. It really turned to crap when Jennifer Garners baby making started dictating production (new cast members and a long mid season hiatus anyone?) Having said that, I love the show. My wife recently grab my first season DVD set when I was away for a night, I came back to find her five episodes into the series and we are now enjoying it. It's fun to see the twists and turns through the eyes of someone who doesn't know what's coming. Her latest prediction: 'The Man' is probably a woman... I can't wait til that fateful moment where Sydney utters 'Mommy?!'
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those LOST fans who felt cheated.I can hear them now, "Oh GOD created the Island, WHAT A COP OUT by Lindelof and Cuse! I wanted Aliens to have created the Island instead!"
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And seriously ABC: do "Lost: Island Stories" with Hurley and Ben. Co-starring Hurley Bird.
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Garner trying on all those different colored underwear and catwalking for that dude..omg, whoever thinks she doesn't look extremely hot ( looking at you Vikki Marsdale! )then you need glasses. She was so hot on that show and in that episode in particular.
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Make it happen!
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remake ALF with lots of lens flair and plotholes galore. oh, and time travel. maybe a polar bear or 2
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are what is wrong with the human race. Morons who want absolutely no complexity in their entertainment that would force them to pay attention. Some shows do not simply exist as background noise for your jerk-off sessions. I'm still amazed that Lost remained relatively popular throughout its run. Oh, by the way, the blond British girl with the cute overbite was hottest.
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Dur, ABC. Two fan-favourite characters on your top-rated show have a completely unexplored (and therefore perfect blank slate) history together in a context that people are still hungry for. Call it THE ISLAND, do each season as a mini with twelve episodes, run it in three chunks for sweeps each year.
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This could have been the next Lost. They killed it with the huge hiatus. I thought that the last episode was really fantastic - and the whole show was far superior to the plodding, predictable and terribly boring V. And it pains to me to say it, since V has so many actors from superior shows (Firefly, Lost, BSG, heck, even Andromeda) and I'm pretty nostalgic about the original. By the end of Flashforward, I was really invested in the characters, the emotional moves and the conspiracy plot. And any show that uses a Nick Drake song well in an episode is ok in my book. With V, I still can't bring myself to give a shit about any of the characters.
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Jun 01, 2010 12:50:52 PM CDT
SGU ROCKS!!!! better than any show!!! take not JJ abrams!!!
by dioxholsterreturns
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The writers strike shorted us several episodes anyway. I know it must have been expensive but I wonder how expensive it's going to be to replace Lost with several failed new shows. Is Happy Town cancelled yet. Hahahhahahahaha. ABC, you idiots!
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Carnivale was awesome as shit. i was so pissed when they canceled it. it was so well done. best buy has a sale for each season for 15$. i just saw it today. i would buy em if i didnt already have them lol
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Jun 01, 2010 1:14:03 PM CDT
SGU trumps all other shows!! why bother with the other shows??
by dioxholsterreturns
you guys are weird
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While we are at it , ditto on "Reboot"
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I love the show but Louis Ferriera has less personality than Michael O'Hare.
And Brain J. Smith is another one where they need a better actor.
Or maybe because Carlyle is so good he just makes them look bad
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They are rebooting a series that was done in by endless reboots. That is what hurt Alias, not the Rambaldi stuff. It was after they defeated SD-6 (which was far too easily defeated after they set it up as this organization that reaches into every branch of government in like every country), the show quickly deteriorated. Making Arvin Sloane a good guy may have been the dumbest move any TV series ever did.
The fact of the matter is Alias was ahead of it's time. It was five years too early to be a show with series arching plots and subplots (even similiar structured shows at the time like Buffy and Angel wouldn't have major plots last more than a season, but usually only half a season). That is why it never got mass appeal and what killed it is the constant changes and self contained episodes that they adapted to attract new viewers which only lost the loyal fans. By the end, the show was parody of itself with a shameless Syndey 2.0 storyline (althought I thought Rachel Nichols overcame the a lot of hokiness of the plotline). -
hes just like me!!! exact copy of my personality! i mean i wouldnt cheat on my wife but other than that, hes basically me.
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they brought back DINOSAURS! yea, i blew your mind
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They need to keep SD-6 for more than a season and a half. I loved the Super Bowl episode, but they struggled to find a bad guy for the rest of the series. Sark was good, but Arvin Sloane was one of the best bad guys in TV history and they destroyed his character.
While I am on that, I think they need to bring back Ron Rifkin and Victor Garber. I doubt either will happen, but they were a huge part of why I loved the show. Jennifer Garner is too old and famous now to come back to do the Sydney role. She's got Affleck money. -
I know the felling exactly.
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LOST problem is that it was 5 seasons too long.
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Like, a bunch. Those first seasons are great, and how every episode would end on a great cliffhanger. Season 4 ending with that HUGE red ball from the first season, and zombies or whatever was going on...how can anyone have wanted that? It was like a completely different show.
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Nostradamus-esque prophecy type thing and prophecy and destiny shit, you say? That«'s still fuckign stupid and retard. What the fuck that had anything to do with a spy show? If they wanted destiny and prophecies shit for the show, they should had started that way right from the first serie,s don't you think? Again, inventing shit as they go along, seems to be a constant in all of the shows where JJ Abrams has his input on. What a fucking incompetent assclown!
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I remmeber that episode with Tarantino. The one that wanted to play as a "metaphor" for 9/11. What a fucking piece of shit that one was. It was one of the episodes that made me aware what a fucking waste of time was watching that show.
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excellent show that also has elements of espionage.
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he claimed it to be the best sci fi on TV and that it surpasses all the past sci fi shows, so you can take his word for it.
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...but it seemed like the show went off the rails after that super bowl episode that was apparently designed to restart the story so the masses of folks new to the show could catch on. Really felt like a lot of ABC tinkering and second guessing going on with this series. I seem to remember that season 4 was designed to have mostly stand alone episodes instead of an overarching theme, which killed it for me. Then once JJ starting getting other gigs, I think he pretty much abandoned ALIAS. A real shame too. Its the best example of a show that shouldve/couldve been great but got lost along the way.
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the Rambaldi mythology of the show is what made it great. How can anyone say that this was the PROBLEM with Alias? That was the whole hook! Well there was Sydney in sexy revealing outfits.
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Life itself is about the journey, not the destination, bro. So Abrams is right in that regard.
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had to be said. shes far from being beatiful. hated the outfit of the week show, a spy should blend in not dress up like sex and the city circus outfit.
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JJ Abrams always does that, he always abandons a TV showns when there's an hint that it's falling behind. Instead of doubling effort to save it, he always pulls that "rat in a sinking ship" stunt. It's his usual modus operandis. JJ Abrams is the rat in a sinking ship. Always like that.
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the show was just fine post superbowl..yes it was the ridiculous time jump the writers literally wrote themselves in a corner and had no clue how to get out of it..then they got rid of all the great personal life stuff (Will and Frannie) that made the show work beyong the costume changes and fight scences...then further insulted the audience with in show reboot after reboot.(Authorized Personnel Only anyone gag) awful ending to what for two brief seasons was the best show on TV
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What thr fuck does Abrams knows about life? He's the proverbial senator's son, he's where it is because he's the son of two sucessful Hollywood studio executive insiders. Hehad his daddies and mommy connections to get a big early jump start in the business. He knows no life outside Hollywood. JJ Abrams has had a very sheltered life. What the fuck does that Abtrams rich boy fuck knows about real life? He knows jack shit. And his TV shows and movies show it quite well. All he knows is the shit from bad soap operas.
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And in that regard, FRINGE and JJ Abrams's STAR TREK IN NAME ONLY movie had very early starts.
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INSERT COIN... THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING JJ ABRAM GENERATOR SPY GIRL DISGUISES CASTAWAY ISLAND FAITH MONSTER SPY COUPLE DRAMA
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Jennifer Garner wont be in it, they probably think she is too old for the teen crowd. And no Rambaldi either. Or Spy dad.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACyV5-L5b18
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It's inevitable.
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when sidney was a heavy drug user and slept around and had a punk band. \m/ ^_^ \m/
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What's the matter, Lostheads? Getting fucked in the ass once was not enough for you? You need seconds?
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Watch this and tell me again how masculine Jennifer Garner looks...please she is hot as all hell...watch and remember..and crank the sound biatches
http://tinyurl.com/2fkgzrm
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or is it real????
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i find her body to be olympic athlete type, runner or swimmer but not sports illustrates swimsuit edition model.
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About her body type, still thats hot m8. To each his own I guess. I would guess most people would think she looks pretty hot in that video.
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As to Lost revival talk, I'd watch a sitcom of Ben and Hurley on the island.
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Or Buffy, Angel, or Firefly. Alias kind of blew itself up, why would anyone want to go back to it and not do something new? Undercovers though does not look so hot, so, ahem.
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My SG knowledge extends very little beyond the first movie. I think I saw part of one episode in one of the series once and it was crap all over. I'm just not that into Egyptian Aliens I guess.
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Has too many sheldons who whine about using it correctly, often with a flowchart and references to happy days. Popping the cork from Lost is a good substitute but really I'd just be happy if any substitute takes off.
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That was one of the dumbest plot lines EVER. It was a cool spy show up until that retardedness. Oh, and there are other series comebacks I'd LOVE to see before Alias. I'm with the Firefly crowd.
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It became not fine when it was forced in seasons 4 and 5. The Rambaldi side plot through out the first 3 seasons was pretty cool. Heck now I got to go watch the 1st 3 seasons again.
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Jun 01, 2010 4:26:45 PM CDT
Stargate universe is now popular, here is the trailer and stuff
by dioxholsterreturns
trailer: http://tinyurl.com/ykvfums
education: http://tinyurl.com/2dd2oyy -
It was a good show and had some good writing, but let's not forget Garner had a big hand in the success of the show. Not only do oyu need to find great writing again, but good luck finding a Garner-type.
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I think Nikita is going to stink because I don't think Maggie Q is the right girl for the role. Sure she's cute and did a decent job in the last Die Hard as a bad ass type chick but can she be an effective lead? Garner was perfect in that role. She didn't screw up that show, the showrunners did. They ended SD-6 much to early in the shows history. After that big map scene where Vartan lays it all out for her showing how big SD-6 is I was psyched. I figured it would be forever before they could bring it down. It happened too fast.
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...who go all Alias with it, not just a female lead. That's my two cents. Set it after the previous show ended and have them bring back the organizations previously involved bigger and better. More bad ass, more high tech, more disguises. Although, admittedly, Jennifer Garner in hot disguises was definitely part of the shows early success.
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i was excited when i saw this live 8 month ago
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I have only watched SG:U so far. I want to watch the original series and then Atlantis over the Summer. Does this educational video spoil any surprises or should I just stay away.
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I've got my diox holstered.
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...somewhere along the way, but I've not watched anything Stargate since the second season of the first tv show. Not one single episode. It just lost me somewhere along the way.
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Jun 01, 2010 4:57:13 PM CDT
no not really, there is alot that happens in SG-1 and SGA
by dioxholsterreturns
you can never condense that or explain it in one video, its just very basic knowledge. since you plan on watching the original then you dont have to watch it, youll find out yourself.
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Jun 01, 2010 4:57:38 PM CDT
So we should be expecting a Lost spinoff announcement in 2011
by purityofessence
Studio's are getting quicker and quicker with their reboots and relaunches. It used to take about 10-15 years before it was okay to start poking at the corpse of an old show or movie.
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...because the public is supporting them. Studios and producers are making money on them. Until that stops happening we can expect the trend to continue.
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...I assume we should expect ABC to bring back 77 Sunset Strip, Hawaiian Eye and Riptide.
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Jun 01, 2010 5:14:49 PM CDT
I guess the original plan was to have Rachel Nichols takeover
by bronsonthesitcom
This is totally lame. But if it means more work for Kevin Weisman, Carl Lumbly, Greg Grunberg, Michael Vartan, Merrin Dungey. Would've thought that Bradley Cooper would have become a star???
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i think the idea of having a sci-fi show about the sex crime of the week is creepy.
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...for Alias, as he did with the original series.
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They should bring in Legend of the Seeker... already has a 2.5m fanbase from from airing on SATURDAYS at ERATIC time slots. No brainer, to bad ABC exec's need brains.
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Please consider above ^
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I thought I saw one. Of perhaps Herc is just recovering from The Winona Encounter.
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Jun 02, 2010 8:42:54 AM CDT
Stargate Universe avoids the mistakes done in LOST and BSG
by dioxholsterreturns
combine that with old fashioned SG-1 storytelling and mythology as well as a unique hardcore visual style --- and there you have the best show on TV.
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Well, in BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, in the end the idea doesn't wrk because in the ending, 100,000 years later, mankind is doign the same thing that lead to the Cylons and the war between humans and machines. So, there's a deep irony in BSG ending. Which was the point all along. Remember, since the pilot episode, it's always repeated that everything had happened before and will happen again. The peop+le responsible for BSG actually though things through. The same cannot be said about LOST, of course. So, please, don't lump the great and intelligent BSG with the epic fail that is LOST.
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Yes, because BSG didn't had an original and unique visual style to it's own that had no similiarity to any other SF TV show, right? Give me a break!
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Stuff was revealed in LOST, and it was shit. you have to deal with that fact. LOST had a shitty ending because the show was not good to begin with. You really need to deal with that. There is an ending and revelations, and it all sucked ass. Again, deal with it. You bet on the wrong horse, buddy. Though luck, move on, life goes on.
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Second half of season one was great!
Lets just look back at the crap which is Star Trek TNG Season 1, and look what that ended up doing -
There's very little Science, and the characters are practically non entities. Aside from Rush and Young and "Chloe?" I don't think I can remember a single characters name. They are cyphers. Angry black man, Pregnant blonde, lesbian doctor, nerdy science kid, etc...
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I want REAPER back.
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..with the "All Along The Watchtower" MAGNOLIA montage. What the fuck? Is the song some universal constant? Every human civilization evolves to the point that it builds robots and writes a Bob Dylan song? God gives Man the 10 Commandments AND "All Along The Watchtower"?
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They can't go anywhere because they are stuck on the ship. Yeah, you can gate offworld when it stops but you better be back before the clock runs out or you're SOL, bucko.
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YOU KNOW YOU WANT IT!
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...that singing blue thing in THE FIFTH ELEMENT that mixed opera with the "funky chicken".
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I quit THE UNIT when they started having dream episodes, and that shit with the African witch doctor.
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If god actually existed, what would be so suprising that "All Along The Watchtower" would be god's own personal message to mankind? If you ask me, it makes perfect sense.
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What the fuck is this shit with the prophecies bullshit in american TV shows now? Every fucking single one of them have one now? Give me a break!
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The season4 finale was like a fucking great movie! Wait - why not going the movie way? I'm still rooting for Garner, Garber, Rifkin and Cooper! Pure Gold!
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Loved Alias, and any complaints I read about Rambaldi shit makes no sense now, just as it made no sense then. JJ's geek shows are about playing on our existing expectations for genres, and flipping some sci-fi into the mix when viewers weren't expecting it. Those who didn't like it left early in Alias. Lost's sci-fi came out of the gates right away but remained unexplained (at first?), and Fringe just told everybody it was going to deal with weird shit, but even then we had no way to expect where things would go by the end of the first (and second) seasons.
I like that formula, and even if stuff in Alias, Lost or Fringe seem beyond reality to me, that's exactly what's exciting about seeing this stuff on network TV.
However, simply put, Alias had problems with the network that didn't know what to do without Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? six nights a week. (They raped that show a bit, eh?) Once Alias developed with decent ratings and the mythology had been revealed, it helped the concept of Lost get approved by ABC execs, IMO, and made a nice one-two punch when they moved it to Wednesdays after the new show Lost. But from there Alias got screwed by time changes and sloppy schedules...a victim of the Idol juggernaut on Wednesday and Thursday, and by the time it was brought back to Wednesday @ 8pm after 2 previous different times that final season, the momentum was gone. ABC played it at 4 different times and 3 different days that season, with the series finale thrown on Monday against 24's finale, if I'm not mistaken? Just brutal treatment at the end, but I do consider us lucky to get 5 seasons.
Sydney rocked...we cared about her adventure and it was much more than just Jen looking hot each week. Garber and Rifkin were epic, and as others pointed out Alias brought us credible actors for the main cast to play off. Terry O'Quinn was awesome in the show too, and I always liked the Patricia Wettig CIA shrink character...I loved those scenes with her trying to get into Jack Bristow's head!
Add some great villains like Amy Acker's Peyton, David Ander's Sark, or Gina Torres' Anna, and you had some quality action/drama each week.
And I'll gladly echo what everybody who watched Alias already knows, Rifkin's Sloane was so creepy evil he is easily one of the best villains in TV history.
As for a reboot...ah hell no. Don't know how you could try and re-create Alias without all those essential pieces. I would much rather see a spinoff, borrowing some characters and ideas, but letting it develop into something new. Give us Marshall & Dixon, and create some new lead actors and a new direction.
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You're the best troll on here. Wah, Lost sucks, wah! Hey everyone, look at me, Lost sucks! The truth is, my weird little friend, Lost is/was a fantastic TV show that had its ups and downs, but overall, was better than 99 percent of the entertainment garbage out there. I'm sad for you that you didn't like it. Really. And I'm sad you thought the ending sucked. Me, I thought it was spectacular. And I'm glad I bet on that "horse."
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Jun 02, 2010 3:25:29 PM CDT
I like to play with Abrams' existing expectations of his audienc
by margot_tenenbaum
...by saying -- hey four eyes take some writing classes, specifically centering on THIRD ACTS. Chekhov's Gun etc.
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What a sad life you must lead. Lost is over. Move on. Why do you continue talking about a show that in your words, "was over five seasons ago". If you continued watching, that's your fault. Hopefull Lost will be rebooted to show us the island under Hurley. Lost: Hugo's Files. Starring Felicia Day, Meagan Good and Kristen Bell as they battle an Afghan drug lord played by Chow Yun Fat who is in search of his missing hash.
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Jun 02, 2010 4:28:45 PM CDT
AICN members who complain about SGU here havent seen new episode
by dioxholsterreturns
the 2nd half of the season is nothing short of a masterpiece, and im ot alone even super famous Sci Fi writers hailed SGU as best Tv show, read this if you dont believe me:
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Holy poop but this could be great news!
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Jun 02, 2010 7:33:36 PM CDT
Alias montage was better than half of Fall '10 Network Lineup.
by dreamseasonbobby
...well, with the hopeful exception of H50. Anyway, ABC does it's most innovative work when it takes chances with shows that aren't supposed to work: Twin Peaks may have crashed and burned prematurely, but it shaped the TV landscape thru the 90s, right up to Jack's chapel reunion. My So Called Life paved the way for Freaks & Geeks and, most recently, Glee. Alias (and 24) got a zeitgeist boost in the ratings from the fortress americana era (although, yeah, it did have a great pilot), and Lost debuted during a season where genre options were few & far between. In a world of hundreds of programming & entertainment options, ABC needs to be more worried about being cultural relevance and less worried about ratings dominance. Disney isn't going anywhere. Fox and ABC have virtually switched places now, Fox is playing it safe this fall and ABC needs to adopt a much more risque/risk-taking attitude not just to get to viewers, but to get to good genre writers.
Rebooting Alias is a waste of resources, it's a almost-great/very good story who's time is past. And Alias minus Rimbaldi is just NBC's Undercovers, carte blanche. Nah, time to throw money at someone's radical ideas and see what sticks.
Everybody else is going zig, ABC - time to zag. Again.
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is just BSG without ANY good characters, plot or dialogue. All Stargate shows are people in weird costumes wandering through the woods in Vancouver pretending its another world
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do not smoke and post. but I keep doing it
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still one of the best shows on tv
nuff said -
Desperate Network
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Staring Sarah Palin.
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was one of the shows most intriguing parts for me. I was convinced that the show would somehow involve Marshall Finkman (or possibly his son) going back through time, becoming Rambaldi, and sharing the secret of eternal (or really really long) life with just a select few.Several of the episodes hinted at the idea that Rambaldi was still alive in the 20th century, or that people who knew him personally were still alive.Plus, if Finkman had been a bit more McGuyver-ish, able to fashion crude versions of modern tech out of bits and pieces, it would have been a better set up. But I don't remember him ever doing that.Ah well, clearly the show went its own way.
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BUT DO IT RIGHT THIS TIME!
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where every episode is a different old tv series, sorta of like the "action pack" that ended up with an awesome spinoff show called Xena. At the end of the season the producers decide which show is a hit and run with it. It would be the survivor of tv shows.
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