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Quint on Twilight Zones 1.10-1.12!



Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with the next Light and Shadow, my systematic and possibly suicidal attempt at going episode by episode through one of the best scripted shows to ever be beamed to idiot boxes, THE TWILIGHT ZONE. Sorry for the quite large absence of this column. There are a lot of factors that played into the delay, but the largest was that I lost the damn Season One set. I’m a giant geek, I have stacks of DVDs and Blu-Rays waiting for more shelving and somehow this set got lost in the shuffle. It took me just spending an afternoon going through all my junk for me to find it in a corner, obviously knocked off of the arm of the couch at some point. But all that drama is over and the show goes on! In the previous entries I’ve tried to steer away big spoilers, but there have been many requests to go more in-depth with the twists as those are what readers who watched as youngsters remember the most. So, you’ll notice this one gets a little more spoilery, but I’m trying to keep the twist reveals until the end of each review. This installment features episodes 1.10 (“Judgment Night” starring Nehemiah Persoff), 1.11 (“And When The Sky Was Opened” starring Rod Taylor) and 1.12 (“What You Need” starring Steve Cochran). Enjoy!

1.10 – “Judgment Night”
Directed by John Brahm
Written by Rod Serling
Original Airdate: December 4th, 1959



Her name is the S.S. Queen of Glasgow. Her registry: British. Gross tonnage: Five thousand. Age: Indeterminate. At this moment she's one day out of Liverpool, her destination New York. Duly recorded on this ship's log is the sailing time, course to destination, weather conditions, temperature, longitude and latitude. But what is never recorded in a log is the fear that washes over a deck like fog and ocean spray. Fear like the throbbing strokes of engine pistons, each like a heartbeat, parceling out every hour into breathless minutes of watching, waiting and dreading. For the year is 1942, and this particular ship has lost its convoy. It travels alone like an aged blind thing groping through the unfriendly dark, stalked by unseen periscopes of steel killers. Yes, the Queen of Glasgow is a frightened ship, and she carries with her a premonition of death.
This tale of paranoia centers on a confused amnesiac who finds himself on a British boat traveling the dangerous, U-Boat infested waters between London and America. Well, amnesiac doesn’t exactly describe Carl Lanser (Nehemiah Persoff). He knows his name, knows where he was born and is filled with a sense of dreadful déjà vu. How did this German born man get on the ship? Why does he foggily remember this night? Why does 1:15am fill him with panic? Persoff acts his ass off here, playing confused with complete conviction, brow furrowed and eyes darting back and forth so that we can almost see his mind grasping at memory’s tail as it skirts just out of his reach. He gets to know the crew and the civilian passengers on the ship in a few short scenes. Naturally every American and British person onboard is absolutely kind, generous and trusting. Not one person seriously questions an obvious and admitted German on their boat, even one who claims to have no memory on how he arrived there and for some odd reason has a U-boat commander’s hat in his cabin. I don’t think the secret of the episode is exactly difficult to figure out. The joy, however, can be found in the atmosphere created by director John Brahm and the escalating paranoia, which is absolutely palpable. This is the first Zone to feature an afterlife storyline. In this case, we discover Lanser was a U-Boat commander when Lanser sees himself off the bow of the British ship, dead in the water due to engine repair, standing proudly on the deck of an enemy submarine, enjoying the mayhem caused by her guns as women, children, men and Lanser himself die with the ship. After Lanser finally goes under, still panicking and maybe even a little mad at the realization that he just watched himself kill… well, himself, we join the Nazi Lanser content in his cabin, discussing the victory with a fellow crew member not so thrilled that they just murdered civilians. This young man worries they’ve damned themselves to a special level of hell and postulates that while their victims only died once they could find themselves dying over and over again for all eternity. Lanser laughs at this and then we snap to Lanser on the boat again, just as he was in the very first shot, confusion on his face, his own laughter ringing in his head, doomed to repeat that night. If this episode were created today we wouldn’t get an ending that has one character just magically spelling out the whole conceit of the episode. That said, I thought the moment really put a nice punctuation on the story. This is a really sharp episode, technically. The black and white contrast is fantastic, the atmosphere and tension both thick. Persoff is great, as are the rest of the passengers, who in a few short moments have to really make us feel a loss when the big attack comes. Keep an eye out for one Patrick Macnee as the First Officer. He only has a couple lines here, but in a few years time would find fame as John Steed in THE AVENGERS and later to horror fans in THE HOWLING.

1.11 – “And When The Sky Was Opened”
Directed by Douglas Heyes
Written by Rod Serling, based on the short story by Richard Matheson
Original Airdate: December 11th, 1959



Her name: X-20. Her type: an experimental interceptor. Recent history: A crash landing in the Mojave Desert after a thirty-one hour flight nine hundred miles into space. Incidental data: The ship, with the men who flew her, disappeared from the radar screen for twenty-four hours. The shrouds that cover mysteries are not always made out of tarpaulin, as this man will soon find out on the other side of a hospital door.
If you’re in a Twilight Zone episode and you’ve been to outer space, even for a few moments, you’re fucked. Sorry, Charlie, but I knew from the opening narration from the man-god Rod Serling that things weren’t going to go right for the survivors of an experimental flight’s crash landing. Here you have one of my favorite under-appreciated actors from this time period, Mr. Rod Taylor, Charles Aidman and Jim Hutton as a trio of pilots newly returned from an almost disastrous test flight of an orbital craft. They return as American heroes, but something’s off. When the episode opens Rod Taylor’s going off his rocker. Nobody seems to remember Aidman’s Col. Ed Harrington, even Hutton. Is Taylor going crazy or is something bigger afoot? The episode delves into a flashback where we see there were indeed three men who survived the flight, but when the newly discharged Harrington and Taylor’s Col. Clegg Forbes go out for drinks Harrington feels kinda strange. He feels wrong, like he doesn’t belong there. Harrington calls his parents, who don’t remember him and before Taylor knows it all traces of Harrington ever having existed are gone. Harrington is nowhere to be found, there’s no evidence he ever existed outside of Taylor’s memory. The bulk of the episode focuses on Taylor trying to find anybody who remembers the man in a last, half-crazed attempt to prove his own sanity to himself. The last person he tries to convince is Jim Hutton’s Major William Gart, but when he realizes even Hutton has no idea who Harrington is Taylor finally cracks… or finds enlightenment. It’s hard to tell. Perhaps it’s both, but whatever it is Taylor gets his first real grasp on what’s going on. None of them should have survived that flight. Someone or something messed up and now it’s correcting the mistake. On the surface this sounds exactly like a Final Destination movie, but it’s more than that. It’s more than death trying to collect on outstanding debts. Whatever forces are at work here don’t just kill these men, they erase them from existence. How fucking horrible of a concept is that? Everything you ever were, everything you ever meant, good or ill, to your friends, colleagues and family just wiped clean? Shit, even if you’re killed in a horrible, complicated Rube Goldbergian ways you’d still leave a mark, a memory, a feeling for somebody somewhere. The great Richard Matheson wrote the original short story this episode is based upon, his first credited work in the series and you can feel his imprint on the story. Matheson and Serling together are kind of a dream team and they have a lot of talent to bring their collaboration to life. I found this to be one of the bleaker episodes. There’s a feeling of hopelessness at a certain point here, where you just know there is no way out for these guys. It’s a credit to the actors that you WANT them to find a way out, but there’s no shrouded figure to appeal to or to challenge to a game of chess. There’s no formula to solve and outsmart. Instead we get a snapshot of men who will have never existed… I had the nagging feeling during this episode that either this particular Matheson story or episode of TZ inspired Robert Zemeckis a bit with the fading photograph of Marty McFly’s siblings. I found that concept to be pretty disturbing and whether directly or indirectly I bet its roots can be traced back to this particular 20-odd minutes of television. If you have the DVDs, make sure to listen to the great ‘70s Rod Serling lecture where he and a bunch of writing students deconstruct this episode. Fascinating stuff.

1.12 – “What You Need”
Directed by Alvin Ganzer
Written by Rod Serling, based on a short story by Lewis Padgett
Original Airdate: December 25th, 1959



You're looking at Mr. Fred Renard, who carries on his shoulder a chip the size of the national debt. This is a sour man, a friendless man, a lonely man, a grasping, compulsive, nervous man. This is a man who has lived 36 undistinguished, meaningless, pointless, failure-laden years and who at this moment looks for an escape, any escape, any way, anything, anybody, to get out of the rut. And this little old man is just what Mr. Renard is waiting for.
Originally airing Christmas Day, this episode is all about gift giving. In fact it’s about a magical old man with an even more magical case filled with knickknacks. He’s a kind old man, offering up items people need. Not what they want, mind you, but what they need. The opening scenes follow him around a bar as he gives away seemingly pedestrian items to the down and outs… a bottle of spot remover to a lovely lady, a bus ticket to a burnt out ex-sports star, etc. Of course, all those come into play… the bus ticket to Scranton just before the jock gets a coaching job offer phone call in Scranton. His coat is dirty and in comes the lady with the spot remover and bam, instant sweethearts. All this is noticed by a particularly lowly low life played by Steve Cochran (WHITE HEAT), in a rare leading role. Cochran’s Fred Renard comes on strong, desperate even, but is given what he needs. In this case it’s a pair of scissors that come in handy when his scarf gets caught in the lift to his apartment. Being the greedy scumbag that he is, Renard harasses the kindly magical old man (Ernest Truex) for more and more. Truex plays his character, Pedott, with a touch of whimsy and grandfatherly kindness, but he’s put off by Renard who gets more and more desperate the more the old man gives him what he needs. As you can probably tell, there comes a point where what Renard wants and what he needs are diametrically opposed and Pedott takes on a little more of a mischievous, impish air. Ultimately, what Pedott needs is more important than what Renard wants and one of Pedott’s “gifts” frees him of Renard once and for all. I quite like these little fantasy tales of magical men living among us. I like the idea of someday encountering my own Pedott or Mr. Destiny or John Coffey. All these characters are fantasy creatures in a real, recognizable world, so on that base level I appreciated this episode. The performances are there as well, but the story is pretty light stuff. There’s no real rug-pulling moment or emotionally resonating scene for me to really sink my teeth into as a viewer here, but not every episode has to be a gut-punch. Sometimes they can be just like this one… light, breezy and charming. That about wraps up this installment of Light and Shadow, which marks the 1/3rd mark of Season One! I’ll keep better tabs on my DVDs from now on. I have a ton of travel lined up over the next two weeks, so I can’t guarantee when the next journey into the Twilight Zone will hit the site, but it rest assured it will arrive. -Quint quint@aintitcool.com Follow Me On Twitter



Previous Twilight Zone Articles:

Episodes 1.1-1.3
Episodes 1.4-1.6
Episodes 1.7-1.9


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  • May 31, 2010, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Welcome back Quint...

    by carlotta_valdes

    ...I always loved how there was never necessarily a need to explain what was going on (like in the case of "And when the sky was opened"). It was left to the viewer to either accept the fantastic events or not, allowing viewers to speculate based on what they as individuals bring to the table...much like another popular show that owes much to TZ which ended last week.

  • May 31, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST

    I just read the original Matheson short story recently

    by Tacom

    It didn't involve space flight. Just an ordinary guy who starts to realize he and everyone he knows are slowly being erased from existence, without explanation. Pretty freaky.

  • May 31, 2010, 11:51 a.m. CST

    What you need

    by Powerring

    Was a pretty cool episode, it was on syfy a couple weeks ago. Precursor to "Needful things?"

  • May 31, 2010, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Thank You

    by greatoz

    Thank you for recognizing that this show is and will always be in some minds( like mine), a true integral piece of the history of science fiction/science fantasy. Although most shows were thinly vieled commentaries on what was going on in the sixties( war fear, sexism, racism and paranoia)Serling was a true master of the gift of storytelling. Not only entertaining but educating. If You havent read Serlings biography by Arlen Sumner titled "SERLING", then please,"I submit it for your approval".

  • May 31, 2010, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Couldn't have been written in the last 20 years

    by ME_M

    "... who carries on his shoulder a chip the size of the national debt." He'd be a greasy smear on the sidewalk, if that was written in recent years.

  • May 31, 2010, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Quint

    by g0dai

    Please keep this up. It's become my favorite section on AICN.

  • May 31, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST

    hey hey!

    by Dollar Bird

    JettL's back!

  • May 31, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST

    ED HARRIGNTON!

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    And when the sky was opened is my favourate of all time. Watched it over and over. "Ed? please come back Ed." Just love it

  • May 31, 2010, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Love this. Thanks Quint.

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    The Twilight Zone rules.

  • May 31, 2010, 1:44 p.m. CST

    The Greatest Show on TV Ever,Period.

    by Redfive!

    The imagination,writing,even the hokey acting sometimes is pure genius.The best part of the series is the moral of the stories.

  • May 31, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Agreed, it's the greatest

    by lock67ca

    The only other show that even comes close to the greatness of the original Twilight Zone, IMHO, is The Prisoner. I'd rank Them #1 and 2 all time. Even the worst of the TZ episodes is better than 99% of the crap that passes for TV these days.

  • May 31, 2010, 2:28 p.m. CST

    what i need

    by bluetoes

    thanks for the reviews, but i wanted to disagree. "what you need" is one of my favorite TZ eps. pedott's ending monologue, and why he did what he had to do, i found really resonating. it turned into a matter of survival. and there are some great lines: "you want a tip? don't eat lead!" "Are you giving me the business?!" its the kind of dialogue that can't be done anymore. looking forward to your future entries.

  • May 31, 2010, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Matheson is legend. Twilight Zone > LOST

    by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK

    Demon Rip-u-off and Charlatan Ruse.

  • May 31, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Best show ever. Lost has nothing on it.

    by DrPain

    Mr. Serling and Mr. Matheson, tv and the world needs geniuses like these men again.

  • May 31, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST

    So, Quint, what would you do?

    by puto tenax

    Go ahead and buy the standard dvds avail now or wait for the blu rays? If so, how long of a wait and how much?

  • May 31, 2010, 3:59 p.m. CST

    STAR TREK TNG and DOCTOR WHO also borrowed from ...

    by berserkrl

    ... "When The Sky Was Opened." Both ST:TNG's "Remember Me" and the recent DR. WHO episode "Flesh and Stone" involve people on a spaceship progressively disappearing and almost everyone forgetting they were ever there (except, in both cases, a redheaded woman). Effectively creepy in both cases.

  • May 31, 2010, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Vicious

    by whitsbrain

    Of these three episodes, I enjoy "What You Need" the most. I like the steps Pedott takes to assure his survival. He seems so docile but what he does to Renard is vicious. Quint, this is an absolutely great column. I have posted links to this column to a couple of forums that I belong to because you are doing some terrific write-ups.

  • May 31, 2010, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Lessons learned after the "Lost" debacle

    by brokemart

    The "Lost" finale was such a disaster. People continue to devour shows with long story-arcs just to find in every case, the writers can't end them. "Battlestar Galatica", "The Sopranos", "The X-Files", "Heroes", and on and on and on. Stories are supposed to have a beginning, middle and end. Because TV shows are ad-revenue driven, they end up being stretched out and open-ended in every instance. I say BRING BACK THE ANTHOLOGY!!! Although nothing will ever again match the original Twilight Zone!

  • May 31, 2010, 4:50 p.m. CST

    puto

    by Quint

    It's a tough call. It took me years to pick up the SD DVDs because they were wildly too expensive. It ended up being a Gold Box sale at Amazon where I got the whole set at a significant discount.<BR><BR>Much of this photography would look great in 1080p and I'm sure we're looking at a ton of new bonus features, but along with that I'd imagine a ridiculous price tag. It's a tough call. Unless you a have a few hundred bucks to drop on Blu-Rays of TZ, you're going to have to wait a year or two after their release for a decent sale.<BR><BR>I'm sure the Blu set will be the superior set, but it's gonna cost ya'. Maybe see how much the Definitive SDs go for when the Blus are released and make the judgment call then?

  • May 31, 2010, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Really Drives Home the Failure of Lost

    by OutsideChance

    ...to read these reviews, especially the first one, and see how one of the true masters of television sci-fi/fantasy could accomplish in thirty minutes what the producers of Lost failed to do in six years. Not to mention how, in the end, Lost was nothing but a rip off of superior shows (TZ, Life on Mars, etc.)

  • May 31, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST

    I'll just keep my DVDs thank you very much

    by lock67ca

    They look great (better than they ever have) and the features are good. I can't imagine them looking much better. There would have to be something extremely special on the Blu Rays before I'll drop any more money on them.

  • May 31, 2010, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Great reviews Quint!!

    by echobase

    The second episode, about the 3 man who should have not come back has always been one of my favourite. I've always thought about the similarities with back to the future. Glad somebody else mentioned it.

  • May 31, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST

    So, Quint LOST his stack o' DVDs. Hmmm.

    by ToMonicker

    So, far in these retrospectives, I've seen everyone of them. Spoilers don't bother me none. I'm not in the position to sink any money into physical media for awhile, but I would suspect that SD Dvds would be fine enough for me. <p> These episodes were okay, but not especially high in my mind.

  • May 31, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Rod Serling Is My Hero

    by Media Messiah

    He taught me how to write from afar. This (The Twilight Zone) is simply the best series of all time, genre, or none genre.

  • May 31, 2010, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Quint

    by puto tenax

    Appreciate the feedback. Serling is top notch. There's one particular episode of Night Gallery with the freakin' dolls that, to this day, I still will not watch.

  • May 31, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST

    "And When The Sky Was Opened" = Fucked up!

    by Greggers

    Sometimes the Twilight Zone strikes down judgment with the hand of righteousness. Bad things end up happening to bad people because they deserve it. <p> But sometimes, The Twilight Zone just messes people up for no reason. Case-in-point: "And When The Sky Was Opened." Those poor astronauts did *nothing* to deserve being wiped from existence. +Palpably* wiped from existence, I might add. None of them seemed to be inordinately greedy or filled with hubris. Like Quint said, they just made the mistake of happening to go up into space in a Twilight Zone episode. And that's not fair. <p>I cry foul, Twilight Zone!

  • May 31, 2010, 6:50 p.m. CST

    Love my boxed set. Just wish for "Play All Episodes" option...

    by Flip63Hole

    Other than that, these babies are on constant rotation...

  • May 31, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST

    What astronauts, Greggers?

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    Never heard of them.

  • May 31, 2010, 7:31 p.m. CST

    puto tenax...

    by carlotta_valdes

    ...not to sidetrack, but since we don't (yet) have a Night Gallery talk back, I gotta know which one your talking about. There's one simply called "The Doll" involving a cursed British Colonel, another voodoo themed one called "Logoda's Heads" and one where a wife's trying to do away with her husband called "I'll never leave you ever". Any of these ring a bell?

  • May 31, 2010, 8 p.m. CST

    ...just wrapped a SCI-FI THRILLER

    by moviemo

    that could easily be an episode of Twilight Zone... check out the teaser for my independent short: http://tiny.cc/2eow1

  • May 31, 2010, 11:28 p.m. CST

    "...Sky Was Opened" is a benchmark of telefantasy

    by Carl's hat

    and has to be in my top 10 of Zone episodes. Rod Taylor is a living legend, and poor old Jim Hutton was always entertaining. No need to make up some bullshit reason for these guys blinking out, just the sheer terror of impending complete oblivion. Matheson, Serling..take a bow guys.

  • May 31, 2010, 11:35 p.m. CST

    but Puto, beware..

    by Carl's hat

    As a huge fan of the Zone, I bought each of the definitive collection seasons as they came out at 90 something dollars a pop. Talk about burnt. There's no way I'll get the blue-rays now; pick up a cheap complete set now or wait a long while to get the blue-rays. I'm waiting now for "One Step Beyond" to have all 3 seasons released together before I buy any of them.

  • May 31, 2010, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Publish your commentary this time, Quint!

    by GoDFaDDa42

    Your AMAD column deserved to find its way into Barnes and Nobles. Your Twilight Zone column is already good enough to buy - write a bit more on each episode, and cover the whole set.

  • June 1, 2010, 9:22 a.m. CST

    testing

    by God's Brother

    testing

  • June 1, 2010, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Can't see where BluRay is worth it for TZ

    by Sonny_Williams

    Hell, even the lowly DVD is of such higher quality than the original media that a BluRay release just smacks of a cash grab. The DVDs have great extras and commentaries; no need for gilding this lily.

  • June 1, 2010, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Keep 'em coming, Quint!

    by HorrorFan81

    I know the Talkbacks here aren't seeing much action, but I'm loving these articles.

  • June 1, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Yes, Greggers...TZ does mess people up for no reason

    by whitsbrain

    Yes, sometimes the Twilight Zone messes people up for no reason. Are you criticizing TZ for not being "fair" to undeserving people? That's what is so unique about TZ and it's what gives it a lot of its 'punch you in the gut' moments. It allows the show to be unpredictable, to surprise. "And When The Sky Was Opened" is not alone in characters getting unfair treatment. I don't get why bad things can only happen in TV and the movies if you deserve punishment for something wrong you did. Something that ends up being "fair" should have nothing to do with a good story well told. There are other examples in the series that subject characters to 'unfair' fates. A massive example is the one Quint reviewed in his last column, "Time Enough At Last". The punishment of Henry Bemis is probably the cruellest thing ever done to a character in the history of TV and the movies. In fact, Henry himself says "that's not fair, that's not fair at all". Wow! Just thinking about that ending make me realize how gutless today's TV and movies are. Today, that ending would be totally changed to some sort of softball tribute to Henry and other 'socially-challenged' people like him. Other examples just from Season One are "Perchance To Dream", "The Hitch-Hiker", "Mirror Image", "A World of Difference", and "The After Hours". Note that this isn't some mean streak exclusive to Serling. One of these episodes was penned by Richard Matheson and one by Charles Beaumont.

  • June 1, 2010, 11:13 a.m. CST

    The cost of the upcoming Blu-Rays

    by whitsbrain

    I bought the Definitive Edition Twilight Zone DVDs as each season was released. Each season cost me about $80. It's probably the best $400 I ever spent. If you wait for a deal on everything, you end up missing out on a lot of enjoyment. I say bring on the Blu-Rays. I'm saving up for them now.

  • June 1, 2010, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Third From the Sun

    by RedAntBoy

    One of my all time favorites is coming up in the next batch. Must've watched this episode a few dozen times over the years. Edward Andrews is really freaky as Carling and the whole episode has an other worldly feel to it. Great twist ending and the musical score is really creepy.

  • June 1, 2010, 5:16 p.m. CST

    another anthology coming in August.......

    by rben

    according to the new releases column. It's "Thriller" ('62) hosted by Karloff. Although it looks like i saw only the entire series advertised, not split up. i'm assuming since it's 60 some odd episodes, that it was a two season series as they used to have more to a season than the paltry 20 or 22 a season we have now. I think Amazon is asking bout a $100 which is a little pricey for 60 episodes. When i got a used complete series set of Man From UNCLE for $120, we are talking 105 episodes and 10 hours of extras (or so they say; haven't watched the extras yet) to say nothing of the fact that UNCLE is 50 min verses 22 (like Thriller), unless Thriller is an hour show. Does any one know? And does anyone know if the series is any good?

  • June 1, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Re: Thriller

    by lock67ca

    Ran for 2 seasons on NBC. 67 episodes at 49 mins. Stephen King called it the best show of its kind that has ever run on American television. Source: Wikipedia.

  • June 2, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

    one last question Puto...

    by carlotta_valdes

    ...was the blooding mouthed doll a white faced china doll or voodoo shrunken head? We're closing in on which episode it is. 'The Doll' was probably the most upsetting visual image in Night Gallery's 3 year history. It left me a little scarred as well. The slow physical transition from fractured and old child plaything to purely evil grinning creature. Also, the way it was filmed...you never saw the doll move. You just saw the ramifications of it's actions, which made it that much scarier. Again, apologies for the sidetrack to Serling's other show.

  • June 2, 2010, 6:14 p.m. CST

    carlotta_valdes White Face, Weird Eyes

    by puto tenax

    That's the one. Now I won't sleep right for a week.

  • June 2, 2010, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Twilight Zone vs Lost = WTF

    by A G

    I own every single episode of Twilight Zone but it is patently absurd to suggest that the Twilight Zone is somehow "better" than Lost. Lost, for a variety of reasons, is vastly superior in all respects. The ending to Lost was very Twilight Zone, with its moral sensibilities and everyday acceptance of the spiritual and impossible. The performances in Lost also vastly outdo those from the Twilight Zone. Criticising Lost may be the in-thing at the moment and God knows people love to complain on this board but it is simply wrong to consider Lost an inferior product to TZ. I should stress again that I own every episode of TZ and I think that it's truly brilliant but Lost is still better. For those of you complaining about the finale, every answer in Lost can be inferred without much effort. Twilight Zone almost always ends with a predictable and impossible ending that comes out of left field, yet you don't complain.

  • June 2, 2010, 9:53 p.m. CST

    ...

    by carlotta_valdes

    ...always happy to help. Sleep well!

  • June 3, 2010, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Lost vs. TZ. take out the verses.....

    by rben

    pitting shows against each other is pointless. TZ was an anthology, LOST is a continuing character, story-arc show. apples and oranges. both good, both different. similiar weirdness.

  • June 3, 2010, 2:14 p.m. CST

    also wiki was off as far as the stephen king

    by rben

    quote. he was referring to the original outer limits series "as the finest program of its type to ever run on american television", not thriller. the quote is on the OL dvd box. although king may like thriller too. i don't know. that's why wiki makes me crazy sometimes. unverifiable information.

  • June 7, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Thriller and Outer Limits quotes

    by brokemart

    King did state that the original Outer Limits was "the best program of it's type ever to run on television". In his book 'Danse Macabre', King wrote that Thiller was "the best horror series ever put on TV".

  • June 7, 2010, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Lost and the Twilight Zone

    by brokemart

    I've seen every episode of each and you really can't compare the two. Lost is a long story-arc, while the Twilight Zone is an anthology. I stated in an earlier post that I found TZ superior to Lost. I happen to prefer anthologies, which means TZ is better to me. I thought Lost got, well, lost along the way. The first season was as good as I can ever remember a TV show being. But after that, it was a tangled, indecipherable mess. I still stuck with it, but after its terrible finale, I wish I hadn't.

  • June 7, 2010, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Excellent, Greggers

    by whitsbrain

    Quoting you: "So when Mr. Bemis breaks his glasses, it's not necessarily irony for the sake of irony, or narrative cruelty. Bemis was, in some ways, a misanthrope. He had checked out on humanity before the bomb ever dropped. His delight in the extermination of the human race was not an admirable thing, and the circumstances before he broke his glasses even created a certain hubris. And then the glasses broke, and the horror of the situation, albeit indirectly was finally (and perhaps justly; at least understandably) visited upon him." This is a great point that I'd not thought of before. Thanks for the fresh perspective.

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