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SUPERNATURAL & SMALLVILLE: Together Again – On Fridays!! VAMPIRE Paired With NIKITA!! The CW's Autumn Schedule!!

I am – Hercules!! The CW is billing 2010-2011 as "Smallville's" "10th and final season." Its old Thursday sister show, "Supernatural," joins it on Friday. "Nikita," the second TV show based on the Luc Besson secret agent movie, gets the timslot after "Vampire Diaries," the network's biggest hit.
THE CW ANNOUNCES 2010-2011 SCHEDULE NEW FALL SEASON PREMIERES WITH TEN HOURS OF ORIGINAL PROGRAMMING, INCLUDING TWO NEW SERIES, "NIKITA" AND "HELLCATS" ORIGINAL SERIES TO AIR IN EVERY TIME PERIOD, WITH ESTABLISHED FRANCHISES ANCHORING THE 8:00 HOUR ACROSS THE SCHEDULE West Coast Meets East Coast When Dramas "90210" And "Gossip Girl" Take Up Residence on Monday Nights Tuesday Night Brings "One Tree Hill" and "Life Unexpected" Together for a Night of Heartfelt Drama Wednesday Pairs Hit Reality Series "America's Next Top Model" With New Pumped-Up Cheerleader Drama "Hellcats" With Stars Ashley Tisdale and Aly Michalka On Thursday, Red-Hot Hit "The Vampire Diaries" Teams with New Action-Packed Drama "Nikita," starring International Star Maggie Q In The Tenth and Final Season of "Smallville," Clark Kent Reunites with The Winchester Brothers When "Smallville" and "Supernatural" Team Up on Friday Nights Transformational New Reality Series "Plain Jane" Premieres in Summer Emmy-Nominated Singer/Songwriter Katy Perry Opened the Upfront with her hit singles "California Gurls" and "Hot N Cold" May 20, 2010 (New York, New York) - The CW Network unveiled the schedule for its 2010-2011 season today at a presentation for advertisers, affiliates and national media in the Theater at Madison Square Garden, where singer Katy Perry rocked the house to open the show. The announcement was made by Dawn Ostroff, President of Entertainment, The CW. "After just four short years as a network, The CW will premiere our strongest schedule ever this fall, with a combination of hit shows and exciting new series giving us all-original programming five nights a week for the first time," said Ostroff. "We've been growing this network one hit at a time and we're poised for a great 2010-11 season. This year 'The Vampire Diaries' was a smash out of the box for us, and another freshman show, 'Life Unexpected,' also opened strong and began building an intense, loyal following. On the heels of breaking 'Gossip Girl' and '90210' the last two seasons and the enduring popularity of 'Smallville,' 'Supernatural,' 'One Tree Hill' and 'America's Next Top Model,' we had more strong program development and believe we have the goods once again with 'Nikita' and 'Hellcats,' two shows that are fun, fast and loud, and will enable us to make noise in the marketplace this fall. These hot new dramas will extend The CW brand and our hold on the coveted young female demographic, with international action-film star Jackie-Chan protege Maggie Q starring as 'Nikita,' an empowered woman fighting for justice, and Ashley Tisdale of 'High School Musical' and Aly Michalka of 'Bandslam' in 'Hellcats,' a lively new series about a pre-law student whose life turns upside down when she joins the cheerleading team at a major Southern university. "Additionally, we're excited about two new reality series coming to The CW. First up in summer 2010 will be original programming from 'Plain Jane,' with each week featuring a full-blown makeover for a young woman including a style transformation, new wardrobe and confidence-building assistance from the show's host, British fashion expert, Louise Roe. In addition to this powerful fall schedule, you can expect more news on original programming for next season down the line as we continue to grow our business. We're also as committed as ever to utilizing online, social media and new technologies to attract 'Generation Digital,' the passionate and highly engaged young viewers who get their CW fix whenever and wherever they want it." On Monday, the Left Coast/Right Coast pairing of 90120 and GOSSIP GIRL will cover a lot of ground with viewers, providing cutting-edge drama, the latest in high fashion and backstabbing betrayal with the beautiful beach-set of 90210 from 8:00-9:00 p.m. and the powerful and privileged Upper East-siders of GOSSIP GIRL from 9:00-10:00 p.m. Despite tough competition last season, 90210 became the most DVR'd show on television, with Live-Plus-7-Day ratings that more than double its women 18-34 audience. Together, 90210 and GOSSIP GIRL have the highest concentration of women 18-34 on network television, and GOSSIP GIRL continues to be one of the most buzzed-about shows on the planet. Next season's premiere will take Serena (Blake Lively), Blair (Leighton Meester) and Chuck (Ed Westwick) to the City of Lights - Paris, France. On Tuesday, ONE TREE HILL, the show loyal viewers demanded back, finds a new home in the 8:00-9:00 p.m. hour, followed by the second season of LIFE UNEXPECTED, last season's critically acclaimed show about a young girl who reunites with her birth parents after growing up in foster care. LIFE UNEXPECTED has a rapidly growing audience, and the two series are already a tried-and-true teaming, since LIFE UNEXPECTED, premiered at midseason behind ONE TREE HILL with strong audience retention. On Wednesday, AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL will be back in its successful 8:00-9:00 p.m. timeslot. During its recently completed 14th cycle, TOP MODEL added a new judge, fashion editor Andre Leon Talley, and the show was number one in its time period with women 18-34 and adults 18-34. Last week's cycle 14 finale episode won the 8:00 p.m. hour in women 18-34, adults 18-34, females 12-34 and female teens. The models give way to cheerleaders when the new drama HELLCATS premieres in the 9:00-10:00 p.m. hour. HELLCATS is a pumped-up drama about a young pre-law student (Aly Michalka, "Bandslam") whose world is turned upside-down when she loses her scholarship and has to join the college's competitive cheerleading squad. This fun, energetic series is a behind-the-scenes look at the drama, politics and pressure surrounding the football program at a Southern university. Ashley Tisdale ("High School Musical") also stars as a young woman who is totally committed to the cheerleading squad to realize her dreams. The CW broke a major hit on Thursday nights last fall with THE VAMPIRE DIARIES, now the network's top-rated show. The vampires, witches and mere mortals of Mystic Falls will remain in the 8:00-9:00 p.m. timeslot, providing the perfect jumping-off point for the non-stop action and international intrigue of the drama NIKITA from 9:00-10:00 p.m. NIKITA stars international action-film star and martial arts expert Maggie Q ("Mission Impossible III") in the title role as a spy and assassin for a top secret U.S. government agency, who rebels against the system that created her and will stop at nothing to bring their powerful operation to an end. Shane West ("E.R.") and Lyndsy Fonseca ("Kick Ass") also star. On Friday, two rock solid hits, SMALLVILLE and SUPERNATURAL, reunite for a great two-hour block. In its explosive tenth and final season, SMALLVILLE will remain in the 8:00-9:00 p.m. timeslot, where it gave the CW its best numbers ever in the time period with scripted programming last year. The series will bring Clark Kent's epic journey to a conclusion worthy of a superhero. In the 9:00-10:00 p.m. hour, the Winchester Brothers continue their heroic battle to ensure that good triumphs over evil, no matter what the personal cost may be to the brothers themselves. Last season, SUPERNATURAL's ratings were up year-to-year with women 18-49. Following is The CW's 2010-2011 primetime schedule, a night-by-night breakdown and accompanying details on all the programs. THE CW's 2010-2011 PRIMETIME SCHEDULE MONDAY 8:00-9:00 PM 90210 (New Night) 9:00-10:00 PM GOSSIP GIRL TUESDAY 8:00-9:00 PM ONE TREE HILL (New Night) 9:00-10:00 PM LIFE UNEXPECTED (New Night) WEDNESDAY 8:00-9:00 PM AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL 9:00-10:00 PM HELLCATS (New Series) THURSDAY 8:00-9:00 PM THE VAMPIRE DIARIES 9:00-10:00 PM NIKITA (New Series) FRIDAY 8:00-9:00 PM SMALLVILLE 9:00-10:00 PM SUPERNATURAL (New Night) MONDAY 8:00-9:00 P.M. "90210" The third season of 90210 welcomes the West Beverly kids to their senior year of high school. It's the time of college acceptances and lovers' rejections, the time of prom dates and promises betrayed, the time of spring break, break-ups and make-ups - but as is always the case in Beverly Hills, it all happens in a world of sun and fun, palm trees and warm sea breezes, success and excess. From the very beginning of the school year, the lives of the West Beverly group will be shaken up in a way none of them could ever imagine. And from this new starting point, their journeys will take them to staggering new heights and terrifying new depths. We'll see the rise of a pop sensation and the fall of a group of friends, the beginning of a new love and the end of a professional dream, the creation of an unlikely family and the demise of another. And that's just the first week of school... It's now or never for the students of West Beverly, and they're not going to waste a moment of time. Expectations are high, hormones are raging, and scandals are hiding around every corner. From the brightest moments of love and happiness to the darkest hours of shame and fear, senior year at West Beverly promises to be an unforgettable journey into the lives, hopes and dreams of those lucky few who call 90210 home. The series stars Lori Loughlin as Debbie Wilson, Shenae Grimes as Annie Wilson, Tristan Wilds as Dixon Wilson, AnnaLynne McCord as Naomi Clark, Ryan Eggold as Ryan Matthews, Jessica Stroup as Silver, Michael Steger as Navid Shirazi, Jessica Lowndes as Adrianna Tate-Duncan, Matt Lanter as Liam Court, Trevor Donovan as Teddy Montgomery and Gillian Zinser as Ivy. 90210 is produced by CBS Television Studios with executive producer Rebecca Sinclair ("Gilmore Girls") and Dave Rosenthal ("Gilmore Girls," "Men in Trees"). 9:00-10:00 P.M. "GOSSIP GIRL" High society and low blows are back as GOSSIP GIRL, a one-hour drama about the scandalous lives of Manhattan's elite, returns for its much-anticipated fourth season. Season three ended with a BANG! as a heartbroken Chuck Bass lay bleeding in the streets of Prague while Blair Waldorf and a newly-single Serena van der Woodsen jetted off to Paris for a fabulous summer abroad. Meanwhile, Nate Archibald fresh off his painful breakup with Serena, decided to take a page out of Chuck's playboy playbook just as Dan Humphrey discovered he was going to have to settle down and be a father - to Georgina Sparks' baby! Season four will open with a radiant Serena and Blair enjoying their grand and romantic summer in Paris... until Chuck mysteriously arrives in town with a new girlfriend and a new identity. Blair swore off Chuck forever but will this changed man woo Blair into having a change of heart, or will Queen B set her sights on ruling Columbia University? And as for that baby... ? The series stars Blake Lively as Serena van der Woodsen, Leighton Meester as Blair Waldorf, Penn Badgley as Dan Humphrey, Chace Crawford as Nate Archibald, Taylor Momsen as Jenny Humphrey, Ed Westwick as Chuck Bass, Jessica Szohr as Vanessa Abrams, Kelly Rutherford as Lily van der Woodsen and Matthew Settle as Rufus Humphrey. Filmed in New York and based on the popular series of young-adult novels by Cecily von Ziegesar, GOSSIP GIRL is from Fake Empire and Alloy Entertainment in association with Warner Bros. Television and CBS Television Studios with executive producers Josh Schwartz ("Chuck," "The O.C."), Stephanie Savage ("The O.C."), Leslie Morgenstein ("The Vampire Diaries"), Bob Levy ("The Vampire Diaries") and Joshua Safran. TUESDAY 8:00-9:00 P.M. "ONE TREE HILL" After a seventh season that saw ONE TREE HILL continue to grow and break new ground, the show enters season eight with more than 150 episodes under its belt. The new season finds Brooke Davis happier than ever. Recently engaged to Julian, her wedding will be the captivating affair one might expect from a young, beautiful, successful fashion designer. As Nathan Scott prepares for his second season in the NBA, the Scott family is expecting their second child and Haley feels as though the baby will be a girl. How will she balance her pregnancy while raising Jamie and pursuing her music career? Also, Quinn and Clay's lives hang in the balance, the victims of a brutal attack which affects all of their friends and family. Season eight of ONE TREE HILL will explore the delicate balance that contemporary twenty-somethings face as they endeavor to build and define what their lives will be, while overcoming difficulties and embracing the good things that they sometimes take for granted, shrouded in the pursuit of someday. It will be a celebration of the most important things, among them the quest for love, laughter, health, friends, career and family: timeless pursuits that have always mattered, and matter now, in a place called Tree Hill. The series stars James Lafferty as Nathan Scott, Sophia Bush as Brooke Davis, Bethany Joy Galeotti as Haley James Scott, Robert Buckley as Clay Evans, Austin Nichols as Julian Baker, Shantel VanSanten as Quinn James and Jackson Brundage as Jamie Scott. ONE TREE HILL was created by Mark Schwahn and is executive produced by Schwahn, Joe Davola, Greg Prange, Mike Tollin and Brian Robbins. ONE TREE HILL is a Mastermind Laboratories and Tollin/Robbins Production in association with Warner Bros. Television. 9:00-10:00 P.M. "LIFE UNEXPECTED" Returning for a second season, LIFE UNEXPECTED is a coming-of-age family drama that centers around 16-year-old Lux, who was given up for adoption at birth but never adopted. When she is put back into the custody of her estranged-since-high-school birth parents, radio show host Cate and bartender Baze, the three form an unlikely family, complicated by the fact that Cate is engaged to her co-host, Ryan. Cate and Baze struggle with becoming insta-parents and raising a daughter they are only now getting to know, while Ryan must deal with the fact that Cate's feelings for Baze aren't entirely in the past. Lux, meanwhile, tries to reconcile her past with her present, often torn between her old friends from foster care and her new family. As the unlikely trio begins to grow up together, Lux encourages Baze to reveal what she already knows - that he is in love with Cate, just like a part of Cate is in love with him. Baze tries to stop Cate's wedding, but when he's too late, Cate marries Ryan. Heading into next season, our unlikely threesome become a foursome as Ryan joins the family. The series stars Shiri Appleby as Cate Cassidy, Kristoffer Polaha as Nate "Baze" Bazile, Britt Robertson as Lux, Austin Basis as Math and Kerr Smith as Ryan Thomas. LIFE UNEXPECTED is produced by CBS Television Studios and Warner Bros. Television in association with Mojo Films with executive producers Liz Tigelaar ("Brothers and Sisters," "What About Brian") and Gary Fleder ("October Road"). WEDNESDAY 8:00-9:00 P.M. "AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL" Returning with its fifteenth and sixteenth cycles, the runaway runway hit series stars Tyra Banks. The show gives real people an opportunity to prove that they can make it in the high-stress, high-stakes world of supermodeling. With mentoring by Tyra Banks and exposure to high-profile fashion-industry gurus, young women of various backgrounds, shapes and sizes must endure a highly accelerated modeling boot camp and face weekly tests to determine who will make the cut as they vie for a professional modeling contract. The executive producers are Ken Mok ("Making the Band"), Tyra Banks and Laura Fuest. The series was created by Tyra Banks and developed by Mok and Kenya Barris. AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL is produced by 10 by 10 Entertainment in association with Bankable Productions. 9:00-10:00 P.M. "HELLCATS" HELLCATS is a coming-of-age story about Marti Perkins, a young, pre-law student at Lancer University in Memphis, Tennessee. Marti is cool, hip and alt, but her world flips upside down, literally and figuratively, when she loses her scholarship, and realizes the only way she can stay in school is by reigniting her dormant teen gymnastic skills to win a place on Lancer's legendary cheerleading team, The Hellcats. Against her every instinct, Marti goes for it and makes the squad, and is thrust into a world of camaraderie, backstabbing and the intersection of sports, backroom academia and big money. Marti's new roommate, Savannah Monroe, a petite, peppy Texan, is among the diverse cast of athletes, undergrads, family and friends, all set on the sprawling campus of a powerhouse college football program in the deep South. The series stars Aly Michalka as Marti Perkins, Ashley Tisdale as Savannah Monroe, Heather Hemmens as Alice Verdura, Robbie Jones as Lewis Flynn, Matt Barr as Dan Patch, with Sharon Leal as Vanessa Lodge and Gail O'Grady as Wanda Perkins. HELLCATS is from Bonanza Productions Inc. in association with Tom Welling Productions, Warner Bros. Television and CBS Television Studios with executive producers Kevin Murphy ("Desperate Housewives"), Tom Welling ("Smallville") and Allan Arkush ("Heroes," "Crossing Jordan"). The pilot was directed by Allan Arkush. THURSDAY 8:00-9:00 P.M. "THE VAMPIRE DIARIES" Returning for its second season, THE VAMPIRE DIARIES is the story of two vampire brothers obsessed with the same beautiful girl, and battling to control the fate of an entire town. During season one, Stefan and Damon Salvatore returned to their hometown of Mystic Falls, Virginia, for very different reasons - Stefan was determined to get to know Elena Gilbert, who bears a striking resemblance to Katherine Pierce, the beautiful but ruthless vampire the brothers knew and loved in 1864, while Damon was intent on releasing Katherine from the tomb where he believed she was trapped by a witch's spell all those years ago. At the end of season one, Elena's uncle set a plan in motion that brought the Founder's Day celebration to an end amid chaos, destruction and death, and saw the return of the vengeful Katherine Pierce. Next season, the appearance of the villainous Katherine in Mystic Falls throws a wrench into the love triangle between Stefan, Elena and Damon, and the other residents of Mystic Falls must choose sides as they fall victim to a new breed of danger. New and unexpected friendships will be forged, allies will become enemies, and hearts will be broken. Stefan and Damon will be forced to face a villain more evil and diabolical than they ever believed possible. And they'll take their shirts off. Frequently. The series stars Nina Dobrev as Elena Gilbert, Paul Wesley as Stefan Salvatore, Ian Somerhalder as Damon Salvatore, Steven R. McQueen as Jeremy Gilbert, Sara Canning as Jenna Sommers, Katerina Graham as Bonnie Bennett, Candice Accola as Caroline Forbes, Zach Roerig as Matt Donovan, Michael Trevino as Tyler Lockwood and Matt Davis as Alaric Saltzman. Based on the series of books by L. J. Smith, THE VAMPIRE DIARIES is from Bonanza Productions Inc., cptfc Outerbanks Entertainment and Alloy Entertainment in association with Warner Bros. Television and CBS Television Studios with executive producers Kevin Williamson ("Scream," "Dawson's Creek"), Julie Plec ("Kyle XY," "Wasteland"), Leslie Morgenstein ("Gossip Girl," "Private") and Bob Levy ("Gossip Girl," "Privileged"). 9:00-10:00 P.M. "NIKITA" When she was a deeply troubled teenager, Nikita was rescued from death row by a secret U.S. agency known only as Division, who faked her execution and told her she was being given a second chance to start a new life and serve her country. What they didn't tell her was that she was being trained as a spy and assassin. Ultimately, Nikita was betrayed and her dreams shattered by the only people she thought she could trust. Now, after three years in hiding, Nikita is seeking retribution and making it clear to her former bosses that she will stop at nothing to expose and destroy their covert operation. For the time being, however, Division continues to recruit and train other young people, erasing all evidence of their former lives and turning them into cold and efficient killers. One of these new recruits, Alex, is just beginning to understand what lies ahead for her and why the legendary Nikita made the desperate decision to run. The series stars Maggie Q as Nikita, Lyndsy Fonseca as Alex, Shane West as Michael, Aaron Stanford as Birkhoff, Ashton Holmes as Thom, Tiffany Hines as Jaden, with Melinda Clarke as Amanda and Xander Berkeley as Percy. NIKITA is from Warner Bros. Television in association with Wonderland Sound and Vision, with executive producers Craig Silverstein ("Bones," "K-Ville"), Danny Cannon ("CSI: Crime Scene Investigation," "Chuck"), McG ("Supernatural," "Chuck," "The O.C.," "Charlie's Angels"), and Peter Johnson ("Supernatural," "Chuck"). The pilot was directed by Danny Cannon. FRIDAY 8:00-9:00 P.M. "SMALLVILLE" Entering its explosive tenth and final season, SMALLVILLE culminates in the epic rise of the world's ultimate hero - Superman. Finally working alongside the intrepid Lois Lane at the Daily Planet, Clark Kent had accepted his destiny as the guardian of Metropolis when General Zod arrived, challenging Clark's authority and power. Just when the romance between Clark and Lois began to bloom, Clark was called into duty by the legendary Justice Society and his own burgeoning league of heroes to fight the gathering dark forces. As season nine drew to a close, Clark sacrificed himself to save the world from Zod. Season ten promises the classic reuniting of the timeless romance between Clark and Lois, and brings Clark face-to-face with his destiny as he overcomes his final trials and forges the iconic identity that will be known for all time. The series stars Tom Welling as Clark Kent, Erica Durance as Lois Lane, Justin Hartley as Oliver Queen and Cassidy Freeman as Tess Mercer. SMALLVILLE was developed for television by Alfred Gough & Miles Millar ("Shanghai Noon," "The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor"), based on the DC Comics characters. Kelly Souders & Brian Peterson serve as executive producers, along with James Marshall, Mike Tollin, Brian Robbins, Joe Davola and Tom Welling. The series is produced by Tollin/Robbins Productions, Millar/Gough Ink and Warner Bros. Television. SUPERMAN was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster. 9:00-10:00 P.M. "SUPERNATURAL" Returning for its sixth season, this haunting series follows Sam and Dean Winchester, two brothers bound by tragedy and blood to their dangerous, other-worldly mission. This past season, Dean and Sam faced their toughest foe yet: the Devil himself. As the Apocalypse raged on around them, the brothers, aided only by a dwindling band of fellow hunters and rebel angel Castiel, sought a way to stop Lucifer and save the planet. Ultimately, they discovered a way to force Lucifer back into Hell and end the Apocalypse - but at tremendous cost: Sam's life. Season six will be a season of mystery and shadow. Heaven and Hell have been left in complete disarray since the apocalyptic events of season five. And now, monsters, angels and demons roam across a lawless and chaotic landscape. And so Dean Winchester, who has retired from hunting and sworn never to return, finds himself being pulled back into his old life - pulled back by none other than Sam Winchester, who has escaped from Hell. The two reunite to beat back the rising tide of creatures and demon-spawn, but they quickly realize that neither are who they used to be, their relationship isn't what it used to be, and that nothing is what it seems. The series stars Jared Padalecki as Sam Winchester, Jensen Ackles as Dean Winchester and Misha Collins as Castiel. SUPERNATURAL is from Warner Bros. Television in association with Wonderland Sound and Vision, with executive producers McG ("Nikita," "Charlie's Angels," "The O.C."), Eric Kripke ("Boogeyman"), Robert Singer ("Midnight Caller"), Sera Gamble, Ben Edlund and Phil Sgriccia. SUMMER "PLAIN JANE" PLAIN JANE is a new summer reality series that transforms one woman from the inside out to reveal a brand new woman. Each of the eight episodes will feature a new "Jane" searching for the change of a lifetime. With the help of British fashion expert Louise Roe ("Fashion Police: The 2009 Grammy Awards"), each Plain Jane will receive a head-to-toe style transformation, including new wardrobe and confidence-building exercises. Once the transformation is complete, the formerly Plain Jane will surprise her unsuspecting crush with the new look and reveal her true feelings to him. A love connection is - or isn't - made. Hosted by Louise Roe, PLAIN JANE is executive produced by Allison Grodner ("Big Brother"), Rich Meehan ("Big Brother") and Amy Palmer ("You're Cut Off") for Fly on the Wall Entertainment. The series is distributed by Sony Pictures Television.
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  • May 20, 2010, 7:49 a.m. CST

    So, they rather inexplicably renew a show

    by Jardinier

    with already somewhat marginal ratings - and they marred what should have been an exceptional series finale in the process -, and then they put said show on Fridays. To die. Huh?

  • May 20, 2010, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Wow, what a send off

    by shutupfanboy

    The Friday Night death spot. What a great reward. CW is dead after next season unless they can spin one of those shows off.

  • May 20, 2010, 8:04 a.m. CST

    I think Welling sold his soul

    by Phategod2

    That's the only explanation for this show lasting as long as it has Inconsistent is the best description for this show and I just can't figure how this show has lasted this long.

  • May 20, 2010, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Like before?

    by BizarroJerry

    Wasn't Supernatural on after Smallville just a couple seasons ago?

  • May 20, 2010, 8:06 a.m. CST

    I don't get it.

    by MonkeyManReturns

    Why renew shows only to put them on a Friday. Okay, we know Smallville ends, so ratings do not matter anymore. But Smallville? Are they looking to cancel or 'end' that show as well? The Friday death slot should be kept for reality tv only...end of.

  • May 20, 2010, 8:24 a.m. CST

    So Tess will be returning next season?

    by Fieldingm

    Fantastic! And no Chloe? Wonderful! And we'll be getting Erica Durance in every episode? Can't wait!

  • May 20, 2010, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Wish Fox would move HUMAN TARGET to 9 p.m. EST

    by SpyGuy

    Watching SMALLVILLE then flipping right over to HUMAN TARGET would be sweet. And as much as I love HUMAN TARGET, there's no way I'm watching it live with SMALLVILLE's presumed Darkseid storyline for Season 10.

  • May 20, 2010, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Um, Chloe is in S10

    by BlueLando

    Just not every episode. <p> Which means she'll likely be searching for Oliver off-screen with The Justice League... then return for a few eps. Then disappear. And then return for the finale.

  • May 20, 2010, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Hey, CW, way to fuck up a perfect series finale!

    by Shermdawg

    I think I might skip season six.

  • May 20, 2010, 8:40 a.m. CST


    by BlueLando

    Great as it was, they didn't fuck it up. Now S6 will see Sam and Dean cleaning up the mess they've made. So they stopped the Apocalypse... that just means the world will be in chaos with Angels and Demons fucking shit up left, right and centre.

  • May 20, 2010, 8:44 a.m. CST

    fridays are too good for supernatural

    by Bathman

    that show needs a made up day like "overratedcrapday" or something like that<P>here's to hoping it dies a quick death on fridays

  • May 20, 2010, 8:45 a.m. CST


    by BlueLando

    Don't sully this TB with your malcontempt.

  • May 20, 2010, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Supernatural, Human Target, SGU

    by turketron_2

    3 shows that I'll be DVR'ing on Friday nights. Cool.

  • May 20, 2010, 8:49 a.m. CST

    "Great as it was, they didn't fuck it up."

    by Shermdawg

    Uh, yeah they did. Kripke's gone, shit ended with a from the heart clip montage, Chuck the prophet ended the story, Bobby got his exit, and that final shot of Sam ruined it all. We don't need a season six. Padalecki and Ackles don't either. Christ, Jensen supposedly was in the running for Cap before the CW renewed it. The show's gonna end badly. Just watch.

  • May 20, 2010, 8:53 a.m. CST


    by Shermdawg that slang for "Tuesdays at nine"?

  • May 20, 2010, 8:54 a.m. CST

    I liked the ending

    by jimmy_009

    I thought it was a fitting ending that fit well within the Supernatural mode. Over the top, epic sequences is not what makes Supernatural (in fact they rarely show anything like that). Had it been the series finale I might have said it was a little lacking, but knowing (and happy that) it was coming back for a sixth season I was perfectly fine with the ending. I would be cool with them just doing all one off episodes in season 6, or a completely new mini-story unrelated to the original arc. The only things that I didn't like about season 1-5 was the trip to heaven episode. Other than that I think it was all extremely well crafted.

  • May 20, 2010, 8:55 a.m. CST


    by BlueLando

    Think of it this way, S1 - S5 is the climax, S6 is the resolution. Just watch as the entire season is Sam and Dean coming to grips with themselves minus divine intervention. <p> It'll be a throwback to S1. No more God or Apocalypse, just two guys hunting and regaining their humanity.

  • May 20, 2010, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Season four WAS NOT well crafted.

    by Shermdawg

    Awful pacing, Fake Ruby, embarrassingly bad Sam as a demon blood junkie scenes, and that lousy faceoff with Dean made it easily the weakest of the bunch.

  • May 20, 2010, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Yes, season 6 six did fuck up the finale

    by David Cloverfield

    We never saw Dean as Michael. A series long build up to a Michael/Lucifer - Dean/Sam faceoff and we didn't get it. The plan was obviously to end it with both of them jumping into the pit after coming across the Impala in the fight. Instead they built the finale on two throwaway episodes one with the third brother (Jump the shark) and with Dean's "true love" (who didn't even seem that important in her original episode). It's a testament to the strength of writing (and the amount of goodwill the show gathered) that the finale still worked pretty well.

  • May 20, 2010, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Also: they made a "realizes his feelings, forces evil influence"

    by David Cloverfield

    That's like... TV magic.

  • May 20, 2010, 9:23 a.m. CST

    "realizes his feelings, forces evil influence" montage work

    by David Cloverfield

    Still no edit button...

  • May 20, 2010, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Shermdawg is spot on about Supernatural

    by Darkartist

    I fucking LOATHE that finale. I've dedicated five years to that show because somehow Kripke convinced me he knew what he was doing with the grand arc. Yellow Eyed Demon was an awesome antagonist and ever since his departure the show has been lacking a proper threat. Lucifer should've picked up that ball and ran to glory but he didn't. Quite frankly, though Pellegrino is a great actor, Satan sucked donkey dick and the entire season has been an epic failure. Anyone who'd defend that season finale as anything but shit is deluding themselves outta love for all the good things the show has done in the past. The finale utilized a cheap narrative device that anyone who graduated from high school English would snicker at. As aforementioned, Dean didn't become Michael. Sam should've become Lucifer in the middle of the fucking season instead of the end. A graveyard is the setting of the Apocalypse? Are you fucking kidding me? And the fate of humanity boils down to a conversation I'd expect from two faggy emo-kids at a shopping mall? Fucking terrible. I miss ANGEL

  • May 20, 2010, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Sam should've become Lucifer in the middle of the fucking season

    by David Cloverfield

    That's a terrible idea. The show is about two brothers. Not a guy vs. the devil.

  • May 20, 2010, 9:51 a.m. CST

    It ISN'T a terrible idea. What they did was awful

    by Darkartist

    You don't think after 4 years we get it that Supernatural is about two whiney little shits? Narrative evolution would be nice with Supernatural. That's what made Angel the epitome of fantasy television. The show constantly shifted focus and expanded beyond a vamp with a soul. Nothing like that has ever gone down on SN and its suffered for it. If Sam became Lucifer earlier, the show would have a credible threat for Dean, the stakes would have actually risen, and the finale would packed a geniune punch. As it stood, once a real problem presented itself, it was resolved immediately and rendered Bobby & Castiel's death a lameass gimmick

  • May 20, 2010, 9:54 a.m. CST


    by NippleEffect

    Hope Cass is back in season six

  • May 20, 2010, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Wait, what?

    by BlueLando

    Come on guys, really? <p> Dean doesn't say yes because he represents HUMANS. Flawed, insane, weak... but the best of them will fight on past all hope because of faith. Dean's entire arc in S5 is the restoration of his faith in himself and in Sam. If you make him Michael, you throw that away completely.

  • May 20, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Can we PLEASE have a Supernatural talkback??

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

  • May 20, 2010, 10:11 a.m. CST


    by BlueLando

    In early S5, we're told, BY LUCIFER, that Sam says in Detroit. <p> Not to mention how the point of S5 is Sam accepting his demon side and Dean accepting his human side. Putting off Sam being a vessel to the last minute is the point. He's not the bad guy, he's the guy looking for redemption. Having him kill for half a season as Lucifer doesn't really help him achieve that.

  • May 20, 2010, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Did everybody rememebr to draw muhammad today?

    by Bathman

    here's mine @:)-/--<

  • May 20, 2010, 10:22 a.m. CST

    One of my favorite Pelligrino moments from S5...

    by turketron_2

    When Gabriel confronts Lucifer, he calls him a "big bag of dicks" to which Lucifer immediately does this really fast, "what'dyoujustsaytome?". The timing is just great with the way he delivers that line.

  • May 20, 2010, 10:29 a.m. CST

    they should do their s6 like xena: wp did

    by belledame

    return to one-off adventures, with really creative stories/villains. they should have a lot of fun and bring fans back to what made the show great initially. <p></p> "remember when we used to hunt wendigos?" <p></p> i agree the armageddon wrap-up was too quick and sort of deflating in that it lacked an actual climax. recasting ruby was a huge mistake that affected the show. they just picked a terrible fill in and gave her lines that were nothing like the original ruby's. xena had also stretched the fun with an ongoing gods plotline. when they returned to form in season 6 and did the ring saga, and all those other fun stories it really allowed them reestablish the show, focus on xena and gabrielle's growth over the series and build a finale worthy of the show's fundamental theme.

  • May 20, 2010, 10:31 a.m. CST


    by gotilk


  • May 20, 2010, 10:32 a.m. CST

    The actor who plays Sam is pretty weak.

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    Love the show since day 1, but he's never convinced me with his silly angry scowl. Dean is the real star of this show.

  • May 20, 2010, 10:49 a.m. CST

    s6 like s1?

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...i dont like s1 really... also Jared is a bad actor except when he played lucifer... just too big

  • May 20, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST

    angel was the greatest

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    followed by buffy... then maybe lost (dependin on finale)

  • May 20, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Superman's Greatest Foe isn't Lex Luthor...

    by Orbots Commander's the Friday night graveyard, where TV shows go to die.

  • May 20, 2010, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Supernatural's finale ...

    by V'Shael

    Personally, I liked a lot of it. But I really really got the impression that Kripke had to roll back several things so that Season 6 could actually exist. <p> I think if there would have been no Season 6, we would have seen the following : <br> 1) Wider world wide devastation. Kripke spoke early on to say that Lucifer was going to be largely sympathetic, because he didn't want to destroy the world. Rather, return it to nature and get rid of the "talking apes". But if you have world wide devastation you can't do Season 1 type stories. <br> 2) Bobby and Castiel would have died for keepsies. <br> 3) Sam might have become Lucifer earlier. Or we might have seen episodes that took place over long spans of time, to bring us up to 2015. <br> 4) The Croatan virus would have been unleashed. <br> Anyway, that's just my opinion. <p> One last thing. I really really loved the CGI effect of Lucifers prison. Not sure why.

  • May 20, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Its the last season of both Smallville and Supernatural

    by Saen

    So who cares what day they are on, they are already ending! Just fire up the DVR!

  • May 20, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST

    SN is the last hourlong i got on tv

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    besides breaking bad, but thats cable... these are the end times for network tv

  • May 20, 2010, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Putting Supernatural up against...

    by Gislef_crow

    ...Stargate Universe ain't exactly helping, either. Or whatever SyFy ends up putting on SyFy along with Haven.

  • May 20, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Smallville enters its 'tenth and final season'

    by ahdvd

    So they're definately planning to make this the final season of the show, wish they had changed the show from smallville to 'metropolis' and put him in the suit, would make it a new show in a way.

  • May 20, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Supernatural would stomp all over SGU

    by V'Shael

    Just sayin'.

  • May 20, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Kripke & the CW are to blame for season finale

    by Darkartist

    I realize that Kripke got booted as showrunner and the series isn't ending the way he originally intended. And that's exactly why the finale was all ass. Virtually nothing worthwhile happened and its greatest sin was that it was fucking boring and hackneyed. The second Lucifer Sam snapped Bobby's neck, you knew he'd be miracled. Every beat the story took could be telegraphed and all I wanted was a cool fight like Azazel's death and the Hell jail-break it caused. That was awesome. This was just lazy and lame

  • May 20, 2010, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Watched the first two eps of Supernatural...

    by BangoSkank

    three different times, starting when it originally premiered... And though it seems like a show I'd love, the douchebag older brother, the terrible acting, and the clichéd dialogue made it unwatchable. Does it get any better, or is just not for me?

  • May 20, 2010, 1:14 p.m. CST

    You fools should quit bitching about the Supernatural finale

    by JackSlater4

    Many of you are talking out of your ass.<P> First of all, Kripke didn't get booted, he is moving on like he always said he would after season 5 because his story ends with the apocalypse. He will still be an executive producer, but not showrunner.<P> Next, Sam and Dean's little brother was not part of a throw away episode, they said early on he would be an important part of the show.<P> Why would anyone want to see a final showdown between Michael and Lucifer in a show about Sam and Dean? You really want to spend 6 seasons getting to know characters and then watch a finale where they disappear and someone else steps in to fight using their meat-suits? Are you kidding me? I have no doubt Eric Kripke wrapped this story exactly how he wanted to.

  • May 20, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Life Unexpected

    by The Alienist

    Almost every episode is typical of the better CW shows, you know, comedy mixed with drama, pain mixed with emotional catharsis...not great but not terrible. But once an episode, almost, (and usually just once) there is a moment of truth that sorta knock me flat. Otherwise I'd have probably given up on it. But I didn't miss an ep during Season One.

  • May 20, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST



    And I'm a Supernatural fan.

  • May 20, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST


    by JackSlater4

    It's cliched in the same way as Indiana Jones, Star Wars and every horror movie ever. So if you like those, you should be good.

  • May 20, 2010, 1:21 p.m. CST

    You don't know shit Jackslater

    by Darkartist

    Unless you have a residence in Eric Kripke's head, you don't know anything different than the rest of us about his feelings toward the show. And if it's all about Sam & Dean why create a season-long arch involving them becoming meat-suits. The writers could've just created a different scenario for the Lucifer & Michael situation and avoided the issue. It's lazy writing and the show is capable of much better. That's where the hostility comes from and its justified after that lackluster finale. I will bitch on with indignant fervor, thank you

  • May 20, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Ignorance is bliss

    by JackSlater4

  • May 20, 2010, 1:45 p.m. CST

    I also think it's fucked up that D.C. comics

    by JackSlater4

    Human Target will be competing with D.C.'s Smallville in the same time slot.

  • May 20, 2010, 1:49 p.m. CST

    YES!!!Chloe is gone and Tess Mercer will be back!

    by Thanos0145

    I'd rather have had Chloe Sullivan killed off (a long time ago) but she's gone. Clark will probably fly and won't wear the suit until the last few minutes of the Series Finale. (He'll probably only rip open his shirt to reveal the S only.)

  • May 20, 2010, 1:55 p.m. CST


    by BlueLando

    It's not our fault if you completely misread the season long arc. <p> It was NEVER about Dean becoming Michael. That's what the Angels wanted, because ultimately they don't understand free-will. It's why Angels and Lucifer hate humans, because they have free-will and thus aren't bound into bowing down to destiny without a fight. </p> <p> Dean's ENTIRE arc in S5 was centred around him regaining his faith in himself. Go back and watch the Famine episode. Dean is dead inside. He desperately wants to believe there are things worth fighting for. When the finale arrives, and he puts his faith in Sam, he starts to believe that there are things worth fighting for. That human beings can make a difference. And that he can have a life after all of this insanity is over. He does it to the degree that he risks his own life to show Sam that demons and Angels don't HAVE to win... that humanity can justify the faith God had in them from the beginning. </p> <p> You wanted Michael vs. Lucifer? The show doesn't owe you that, because the show was NEVER about that. If you think it was, I'm afraid you're incredibly misguided at best and at worst just plain don't get what Kripke was trying to say. At all. </p>

  • May 20, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST


    by BlueLando

    If people hate a show, fine. At least hate the show that's THERE. Instead of playing armchair quarterback and bitching because you didn't get the fight to end all fights. <p> Michael and Lucifer destroying the Earth would be the dumbest ending the show could have done.

  • May 20, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST


    by JackSlater4


  • May 20, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST


    by donkey_lasher

    Superboy my Ass

  • May 20, 2010, 1:58 p.m. CST


    by JackSlater4

  • May 20, 2010, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Darkartist - re: Kripke

    by BlueLando

    Do we know what's in his head? <p> No. Maybe he did want to stay on for S6. All I know is what he's said publically. Namely that the story he had is finished. And from my vantage point, I agree with him. Lucifer's been defeated, God has been revealed, and Dean's got a moment of happiness. </p>

  • May 20, 2010, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Sam on "Supernatural"

    by My Pretty Pony

    I disagree that the guy who plays Sam (Jared Padalecki) is a weak actor. Obviously, Ackles is the stand-out, but the show wouldn't be the same w/o Padalecki. Those two are a team, they have the right chemistry and they play really well off one another. I think Padalecki handles both the dramatic and comedic scenes very well. Just look at the way he portrayed Lucifer in the finale. They're both good actors and that's a big part of what makes "Supernatural" work.

  • May 20, 2010, 2 p.m. CST


    by ME_M

    "And if it's all about Sam & Dean why create a season-long arch involving them becoming meat-suits." ... That is the point, isn't it? Loss of identity and free will? Other people trying to pressure you into being something you are not? Plus, saying "yes" to Lucifer was part of a gambit that failed, so you see how they react to losing the brother. Saying "yes" to Michael would have gained nothing. Having an angel-war, minus the brothers, would be flashy, costly (when WB is probably cutting their budget), and ultimately boring.

  • May 20, 2010, 2:02 p.m. CST


    by JackSlater4

    And I get my info because I leave my house. Go to Borders. Pick up a Supernatural magazine (made of paper) and read what the writers and directors and producers have to say about where the show is heading months ahead of time. Before they got renewed for a 6th season and before they shot the finale.

  • May 20, 2010, 2:02 p.m. CST

    The Supernatural Finale

    by donkey_lasher

    That could have been the end for me. I interpreted Sam as being a ghost, and watching over his big brother. I always thought that one of them had to die before it was all over.<p> My biggest disappointment was Gabriel. I assumed that a reality warping Angel would survive being killed by Lucifer and his sudden turn to "fighting for the people" seemed very odd.

  • May 20, 2010, 2:03 p.m. CST

    And bring on the prank war episodes!

    by JackSlater4

  • May 20, 2010, 2:05 p.m. CST

    It gets better

    by damfino_yanno

    Supernatural is a lot better than its first season. The characters kick more ass, the humor is smarter and less obvious, the storylines tend to be a little more intense or involved, and it's even become more graphic (at least I don't remember too many heads being blown away in the first season). <p>Actually though, one more thing I really like about it is that it's kind of redneck now. Definitely less CW-like. <p>The finale worked for me. Thought it was interesting that they brought everyone back before the end. If they wanted to bring these guys back, I kind of liked it this way--seems less insulting than pretending they were dead until next season anyway.

  • May 20, 2010, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Sam's grown on me

    by damfino_yanno

    The character and the actor have definitely gotten better since the beginning.

  • May 20, 2010, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Season 1...

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    was pretty bog standard stuff. Seaon 2 onward is when this show becomes something great, so definately give it another try!

  • May 20, 2010, 2:27 p.m. CST

    I kind of wish that was the series finale

    by A for Aristocrat

    Supernatural is one of my favorite shows of all time and I was happy as hell to hear about season 6 but I think that should have been the series finale. Everything lined up, the story was fully completed and all the loose ends were tied up. I kind of liked the idea of dean saying yes then the two of them jump in the pit but I thought what they did was near perfect.

  • May 20, 2010, 2:29 p.m. CST

    The reason Sam grew on us

    by David Cloverfield

    His face is a lot less punchable now, than in the first few seasons. Since he put on all that weight he became a lot less of an annoying pretty boy. Almost grizzled. He is still man-pretty, but now you can kinda believe you can kick someone's ass.

  • May 20, 2010, 2:31 p.m. CST

    last 10 minutes of Season 1

    by jbs9200

    The last 10-5 minutes of Season 1 are when the show gets great.<p> That was one of the best cliff-hanger endings (in season 1) I have seen.<p> As for the "series" finale in Season 5, it was one of the best I have seen in years. Since at least "Six feet Under". <p> Yeah the suits at CW are bringing it back for Season 6, but it was essentially done with that ending<p> Sam/Jared is just an OK actor. I feel he ran out of things to do with the Sam character a few seasons ago. It was nice to see the actor do something else when given the chance to play Lucifer.

  • May 20, 2010, 2:41 p.m. CST

    I'm actually glad for season 6

    by David Cloverfield

    Yeah, the BIG SERIES ARC was great, gave us my favorite ep, Lazarus Rising, but the show is at best when the brothers are just dicking around the country in the Impala. It's such a great concept for great stand alone episodes. The trick to make a great anthology series today, is to trick people thinking it's not an anthology series. Two brothers (Essentially Luke Skywalker and Han Solo) riding around hunting things can give us a great fucking season. Bad Day at Black Rock, Mystery Spot, Jus in bello are the best in the series, and while they always add something to the overall storyarc, work great on their own. Season 6 could be awesome, now that they got all the mythology out of the way.

  • May 20, 2010, 2:44 p.m. CST

    yea darkartist misread it

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    great finale, and how the world was saved by a car was creative... i wanna rewatch it now

  • May 20, 2010, 2:45 p.m. CST

    but IMO Sam should been a small or skinny kid

    by yourSTEPDADDY

  • May 20, 2010, 2:46 p.m. CST

    but i do like the"big" Sam jokes

    by yourSTEPDADDY

  • May 20, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST


    by Darkartist

    I love Supernatural. I've been a faithful fan. I understand everything you said and the one place where I disagree is that the entire season moved at a glacial pace and lacked the adrenaline previous seasons had in spades. Every point the writers wanted to make was beat well into the ground. I don't think anyone I've been discussing this with today is a retard. I don't want a show I like to treat me like I'm one. I don't need Dean's internal struggle and Sam's path to redemption being repeated every episode of a 20+ run. They could've summed it up without being superfluous and moved the story forward to more exciting and intriguing places. They've done it before. Why not now? No one watches SN for the Sam & Dean Emo Hour of Glower

  • May 20, 2010, 2:56 p.m. CST

    The sad thing is, they don't have enough budget

    by David Cloverfield

    The best episode they had is the season 2 finale. That made me shit my pants, and realize that this is my new favorite series. But it went infamously over budget and it's the reason why they had to make most eps on the cheap from then on.

  • May 20, 2010, 2:59 p.m. CST


    by Darkartist

    No matter how much I like a television show I'm not going to buy a magazine about one, especially one like Supernatural. Other than Kripke's opinions about the show, what other useful information would I get from doing that? I don't care what's on Jensen's ipod playlist

  • May 20, 2010, 3:02 p.m. CST


    by SpyGuy

    Jason Teague and Rory Gilmore's boyfriend Dean my ass.

  • May 20, 2010, 3:10 p.m. CST

    SpyGuy, Jesus Christ, don't remind me of Jason Teague

    by David Cloverfield

    I have checked out some SV eps to see Dean Winchester in another role... he was atrocious. I love him to bits on SN, but there's no excuse for his work there. I guess he needs a really good role to make it work.

  • May 20, 2010, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Just started watching Supernatural this year

    by Darth Busey

    Virgin eyes. The standalone "hunting a monster" episodes are very good. The big apocalypse story arc blows ass. Get back to the "road tripping" aspect, and I'll watch this shit regularly with my wife (who is in love with Jensen Ackles).

  • May 20, 2010, 3:18 p.m. CST

    S5 of Supernatural

    by Spidermonkee

    I think the finale would've made a great season ender, had they not brought back Bobby, Cas, and Sam. I like the idea of Dean losing everything in saving the world, and then trying to go back and live a normal life amongst people who don't know any of it ever happened and wouldn't believe him if he told them. The season itself, however, had too many one off's. They should've been more focused around the arc. I would've liked to have seen more devastation. More apocalypse. More Lucifer. I think they the Horsemen should've been spread out across the last half of the season, instead of basically being dropped into a few eps here and there. Pestilence was built up for two eps and then defeated with ease in about 30 secs.

  • May 20, 2010, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Didn't misread shit. Just didn't like it

    by Darkartist

    I'm entitled to my opinion, and mine is that it sucked. The season four finale was great and it got me pumped for the S5 premiere. In fact, every season finale with the exception of this one has been cool as hell. But come on, the writing is all over the place. The Anti-christ is introduced, clearly a homage to Good Omens, and then immediately forgotten. Demons have been kicking their ass forever, and the 4 Four Horsemen, the biggest of the baddest demons, are basically powerless without a gaudy piece of jewelry? DEATH was the only exception and he was fucking incredible as a result. All of the Horsemen should've been that powerful, especially WAR. Pagan Gods are introduced into the mythology and then swiftly dispatched as if they were scared teenagers in a Friday the 13th movie. You mean to tell me you people were satified with that? An entire episode could've been dedicated to Gabriel and Shiva's relationship. It was a great idea that didn't go anywhere. I would've loved to see at least one example of Michael swinging his weight around. We never got to see Lucifer or him go crazy at full strength. If we had maybe the gravyard confrontation would've had a greater sense of dread. Instead it came off limp. IMHO

  • May 20, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST

    i dont like your opinion darkartist, and thats my opinion

    by yourSTEPDADDY

  • May 20, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    I don't buy the magazines, just read them in the store

    by JackSlater4

    then I buy a Garth Ennis graphic novel

  • May 20, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Darth Busey

    by David Cloverfield

    I see what you mean. The mythology eps had some incredible, subtle build up from the very first episode, and went to very unexpected places. For example: "There are no angels to help us. Tthere's only us against demons. MAN is alone in his battle with hell" has been a plot point in the first few seasons. Then suddenly BOOM! whole Christian mythology with angels, archangels and whatnot explodes into the show. Cool, there is hope! Than soon The Host is shown to be full of bigger and more dangerous dicks than any demon. That's pretty cool stuff for a TV show. Yeah, towards the end of this season angels started to drop like flies, but their existence was a very big deal last season. The mythology gathered a lot of goodwill for stuff like that, but you have to watch it from the beginning to appreciate it.

  • May 20, 2010, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Supernatural finale was great. I have faith in season 6

    by Neo Zeed

    I know I shouldn't, but the writers on the show are very talented.

  • May 20, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    When the show finally does end

    by JackSlater4

    I hope they do movies. It would be so easy to spin this into a franchise for the next 25 years or so. Can you imagine and R rated Supernatural on the big screen for 2 hours with even just a $30 Million budget? Epic.

  • May 20, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Love Supernatural, but I kinda don't want another season

    by cromulent

    Would have been perfect ending but they gotta drag shit on and I bet they ruin everything next season.

  • May 20, 2010, 3:50 p.m. CST

    It sounds like things will get a new start next season

    by JackSlater4

    If Smallville can go for 10 seasons, as hit and miss as it is, we could very well end up with 10 seasons of Supernatural covering at least 2 major arcs.

  • And yes, Ackles was dreadful as Jason Teague on SMALLVILLE. One reason I've been thankful for the change of showrunners and these past two seasons of the series.

  • May 20, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST

    I liked all of the finale of Season 1

    by damfino_yanno

    Meg's exorcism was pretty awesome. <p>Season 5: It didn't seem slow to me, but all of the sudden we were at the end of the season before hardly anything happened. I do think they wasted the Horsemen, and really wish they had given Titus Welliver a better role. The anti-christ was also weirdly used.

  • May 20, 2010, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Jackslater, you have fine tastes, my friend

    by Darkartist

    Garth Ennis is the man. PREACHER is like my favorite comic of all time

  • May 20, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Yeah I love Preacher

    by JackSlater4

    it all started there. But once I had them all there was a void, I started to fill it with Punisher MAX, but took a break because The Boys is so fucking awesome. So now I wait for The Boys graphic novels to come out, grab a Punisher if I need a fix, and I read most of Crossed, which I like and will buy.

  • May 20, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST

    I fucking hated Ackles on Smallville

    by JackSlater4

    but I'd say that's a testament to his acting range, because you were supposed to hate him, and not in a love to hate villain way.

  • May 20, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST

    For a moment I thought Ennis wrote one of the SN comics

    by David Cloverfield

    and came.

  • May 20, 2010, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Like I said...

    by BlueLando

    Hate what they show, don't play the guy who wants a big fight when the show has never been about that.

  • May 20, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST

    and that was a helluva make-up job on Ackles

    by JackSlater4

    his face was fuuuuucked up

  • May 20, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Today welling said he'd do more seasons....

    by jaysin420

    if the fans keep watching like they did this year. And he really wants Lex back for a few episodes at least next season. Lana also, but I'm hoping that part was a joke.

  • May 20, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST


    by BlueLando

    Much as people hate Lana, for her not to appear in the final season is a rip. She is a big part of canon.

  • May 20, 2010, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Lana should only come back to Smallville

    by Creative1

    if she's married to Pete. Canon fulfilled.

  • May 20, 2010, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Lana should only come back to Smallville

    by Creative1

    if she's married to Pete. Canon fulfilled.

  • May 20, 2010, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Smallville Season 9 was Jizz-Tastic!

    by SoundtrackWhore

    Can't wait for S10 - great to see the JSA story line come together, and the team beginning to gravitate around Supes. The opening of the finale (Martha's 'gift' to Clark) was terrific! Get Supes to fly for a few episodes and that series will end on a high note - that and Lois gettin' her freak on!

  • May 20, 2010, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Bring on Sera Gamble!

    by laivine

    Don't try Ackles in Smallville - try him in Season 2 of Dark Angel. He's snarky and fantastic as Alec even if the show imploded under the weight of its own actors' real life drama. I didn't love the S5 finale of Supernatural, mainly because I don't think I can love the ending of this show that means so much to me. I do think there was a lot of absolutely spot-on moments and the Metallicar as hero(ine), Sam's redemption, Dean giving himself down to the very last vertabrae to his faith that Sam still existed somewhere, Castiel and Bobby who have nothing beyond these boys and this task and they go, with their ingenuity to try and help kill the devil. Loved Assbutt! Def Leppard. These small little pieces of humanity against this being that can't turn back, won't. Seems to me the theme was that humans can change, will change, even if they have to pay every price to do it. And for love, we'll pay it all all thousand times. I'll watch Season 6. How could I not?

  • May 20, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Ackles was in the greatest teen drama ever... yea DAWSONS CREEK

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...had weird long hair too...

  • May 20, 2010, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Didn't realise Ackles was in so many things

    by David Cloverfield

    i was only exposed to him through Smallville and My Bloody Valentine (ugh). I know I'm a huge nerd, but I really wanted him to be Captain America in spite of those two terrible performances. It's such a rare no-brainer. He played almost that character for five years now - an all-American, rougish, square jawed pseudo leader of unlikely heroes. Working for a higher power, he only slightly trusts, his true loyalties are with his comrades. That's Cap! He could sell the character with a straight face to the whole world. Johnny Storm may work out fine, but his take will be post modern and ironic, I would bet the farm on it. I'll always see the missed opportunity here. Then again, I seem to be a fanboy.

  • May 20, 2010, 6:26 p.m. CST

    I thought he did pretty good in My Bloody Valentine

    by JackSlater4

    he essentially played 3 different characters

  • May 20, 2010, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Supernatural finale

    by kuryakin

    I really liked that finale and I too kind of wish that they didn't sully it with a new season <br> To me this show is all about family, and the acceptance of how fucked up people are. <br> I know it sounds kind of corny or girly to say that the series is all about love and acceptance but fuck it, that's what it is. <br> I lost my mother just over a year ago and after her death I was conflicted to say the least. She had been ill for a while but her death was preventable, a combination of fear and stubbornness and (looking back) depression stopped her seeking treatment. I was angry with her for a long time, during her illness and after her death - and with my dad too for allowing this shit to happen <br> But you know now I look back and I think, fuck it, that was her. She was fucked up in a lot of ways but she was my mum and I loved her - my dad, me and that guy have had a lot of issues over the years but I looked at him after she died and I realised that this was his wife that died, not just my mum - the love of this dick's life. You know, that's people man you can't just put them in boxes and say you are this or that type or person <br> I dunno man, my relationship with my dad has gotten a lot better recently and I think it's because I've been like, oh whatever. <br> For me this finale struck home because the show has always been about the tensions of family - Dean idolising his dad to the point where he wears his jacket, drives his car, listens to his music and yet realising that actually his dad is kind of a dick...Sam wants to be his own man but at the same time he needs that balance that family brings. I thought it was only right that the series ended with them together - what that bald angel whose name I forget said a few weeks back about them preferring to save each other than save the world is true, it's all about them. <br> But Sam and Dean have moved past the petty bullshit that Michael and Lucifer are still crying about, ooh dad liked you best wah wah... <br> Sam gets to be his own man, make his own choice about his desiny & more importantly Dean allows him to do it. Dean gets a family and out of the hunting game like he always wanted. <br> They let their shit go <br> Whatever, I've had a lot of beer and I'm rambling like a dick but I can't see how some dumb fucking Michael/Lucifer smackdown or 10 million angels vs demons or any of the other silly shit that has been suggested would have been any better than what we saw- it's always been about these guys' relationship, why the fuck would you think it would suddenly change? What show have you been watching? <br> Please name me another show that had had and fulfilled a 5 yr arc, that has stayed thematically constant, that has tied up all it's main plot points and that has had such a clear agenda as this show? <br> No but you'd rather it ended with some inconsequential avatars beating each other up, woo hooo

  • May 20, 2010, 6:28 p.m. CST

    PS I'm totally fucked

    by kuryakin

    So apologies for any spelling/grammar/logic/fucking whatever errors in that stupidly long post

  • May 20, 2010, 6:31 p.m. CST

    i stoped reading kury when ya started to get personal...

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...i wanna read about penis jokes on rihanna's head or about how the island on lost is racist... sorry to hear from what i did read tho

  • May 20, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST

    If it makes you feel any better kuryakin regarding season 6

    by JackSlater4

    Look at everything that happens next as the sequel to the first 5 seasons, it is a sequel that has potential to be very good.

  • May 20, 2010, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Fuck You Dawn Ostroff!!!!!!!

    by Riff_Randell

    I'll bet you're happy, this is all your doing, you demon bitch. So now, no Kripke as showrunner, and now the death slot. Wee. She hated Supernatural from the beginning, so now you're giving it the kiss of death slot on Fridays. You must be proud you're so smart and cunning. CUNT!

  • May 20, 2010, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Supernatural is great

    by Jubs

    The actor who plays Sam is ass, though. Jensen is all kinds of awesome. I'm still hoping Kripke goes ahead with his idea to create a spinoff starring Samuel Colt in the old wild west, hunting demons and other shit with a group of hunters.

  • May 20, 2010, 7:46 p.m. CST

    My DVRs to be overtaxed on Fridays now.

    by Nick Michalak

    So, I have to setup two DVRs on Friday nights? Smallville, Supernatural, Human Target, and maybe The Good Guys. Of course, if I am home Friday nights, I will watch The CW shows live. I only just became a Supernatural fan halfway through this season by watching the first four seasons all in one week. So, I am glad to see more of it coming around.

  • May 20, 2010, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Nick Michalak

    by JackSlater4

    depending on what kind of DVR you have, if you have a dual tuner through Dish Network for example, you can add digital rabbit ears and it will give you local broadcasts that will pick up on your guide and you can record 3 things at the same time.

  • May 20, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Supernatural will be fine.

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    Hopefully they can wrap up the series a lot better than the season finale. It was pretty weak.<p> Time to get back to the basics. Hit the highway and fight the baddies in all areas.

  • May 20, 2010, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Re: kuryakin

    by caseymcgehee72

    yourSTEPDADDY said: i stoped reading kury when ya started to get personal...i wanna read about penis jokes on rihanna's head or about how the island on lost is racist... sorry to hear from what i did read tho"<br><br>yourSTEPDADDY's post isn't the best example of what bothers me, but I don't understand why some people on AICN get so uncomfortable when someone makes a personal post... every day on this site I read racist comments, homophobic comments, sexist comments, and countless other forms of vulgar comments... but when someone actually make sa profound post like kuryakin, people stop reading... things get too 'real' for some people... nobody bothers to speak up when someone is ignorant and vulgar, but people show their insecurity when someone makes a post that matters.<br><br>kiryakin:<br><br>I lead a support group for mental illness, and currently I am writing a book and creating a website that I intend to be an online support group for people with mental illness and/or people who are family or friends with someone with mental illness. When I finish the site, it will be (or .org, maybe). Aside from the interactive parts of the site, I have been writing tons of blog/articles about the recovery process. I immediately copy pasted your post because I am going to devote an article to it. I read that post and I got chills.<br><br>Stay strong. You're on the right track. If more people had sense, they'd understand that reading a post like yours makes them better people for having read it.

  • May 20, 2010, 8:53 p.m. CST

    pairing up Supernatural and Smallville again? fine with me


    it made no sense to split them up to begin with. after all, how much of America's Next Top Model's audience was the lead-in from Smallville? i'm willing to wager very little. Smallville and Supernatural are the only two shows on the damn channel that appeal to heterosexual males. and with both shows taking their final bows, CW can kiss their entire straight male audience goodbye at the same time.

  • May 20, 2010, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Having Sam Back...

    by Oldnewbie

    And he and Dean still out on the road is just absurd after everything that happened in season 5. Sam should not be Sam, meaning he ought to Lucifer; why else would he come and ruin Dean's chance at happiness? Course Dean looked mighty miserable with his girl, son, and bacon for bfast... he and Sam may just be too far gone, like Jack Bauer is, to ever live a 'normal life'. Still, what to do after the Apocalypse (which was pretty damn lame... my guess budget issues prevented an all out smack down where cities were leveled, etc)? If they are following ANY sort of Biblical logic, which by now I ought to know they ain't, there is nothig to do once Lucifer is finally defeated. Judgment of the living and dead is next, with the righteous entering the new earth and Jerusalem; and the bad dudes and dudettes getting tossed into the "lake of fire". So?? Things not going as planned?? God decided to screw the whole promise He made and is off to Alpha Centauri???

  • May 20, 2010, 11:56 p.m. CST

    Lucifer not "defeated" merely "caged"

    by jbs9200

    Lucifer was not defeated, hence no paradise. <p> See Cass' speech to Dean at the end. <p> If the Angels had won and Micheal and Lucifer fought, then Satan would have been defeated and paradise would have occurred.<p> But Satan was merely re-caged (with Michael this time). So, just more of the same.

  • May 21, 2010, 12:10 a.m. CST


    by nico_laos

    ...So, in the fall I don't have to choose between Fringe and Supernatural. Awesome. And I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but it'd be interesting if the 'escaped from Hell Sam' is actually still Lucifer, who was so moved by Sam's devotion to his brother, that he wishes to live, if only for a few months, as Sam to experience what he seems to have always wanted from Michael: brotherly love. Then at some point during season6 he gives Sam back, and possibly redeeming himself back into heaven. I know that would be fucked up... the Devil be forgiven by God and let back into heaven. But that's part of Supernatural's charm: Showing us shit that we wouldn't expect to see. I mean... we had an episode this season where Dean shot the Devil in the face with an antique gun, AND sat down to pizza with Death himself. Not to mention the complete mindfuck that was Lucifer walking through a hotel massacring pagan gods. Goddamn, I love this show.

  • May 21, 2010, 12:48 a.m. CST


    by Poloboy

    I liked the series better when the guys go from town to town solving mysteries/killing demons. The writers drew upon every known legend in American history. I remember an episode about a Scarecrow that would come alive and kill people. I began to lose interest when they started pushing this backstory about Satan, Angels, being chosen, etc. Some of these "end of the world/angels/devil" episodes were simply unwatchable! They became too talky, overcomplicated, and utterly ridiculous. Granted, two brothers roaming the countryside killing various monsters, is in of itself ridiculous, but I just felt the stand alone episodes were far more fulfilling!

  • May 21, 2010, 1:34 a.m. CST

    SN I wish

    by NippleEffect

    the girls had been resed also. Ellen and Jo and the psychic who god blinded from looking at Cas in his true form and who died a few eps later.<p> I think they'd make a good team for a SN spinoff<br> The shows universe and mythology is big enough to showcase another team

  • May 21, 2010, 1:49 a.m. CST


    by kuryakin

    Wasn't trying to get too personal in my post above, just saying how the finale worked for me in that it had emotional resonance. <br> I mean I know Herc thinks this show is just meant for little girls learning to masturbate but it has been a pretty satisfying show and never jumped the shark IMO <br> Also, man has there ever been a more irreligious long running show on TV? Angels are sanctimonious pricks who hate humans, God's a total dick who says he doesn't give a fuck when they ask for help and then when everything works out is like, oh yeah I was working away behind the scenes more than you know. Yeah right God, thanks for taking credit there, typical manager <br> overall I'm ambivalent about S6 because on the one hand I do kind of want to see Dean fulfill his promise of going after God, on the other I felt we had apriper ending and don't want to see it ruined

  • May 21, 2010, 1:51 a.m. CST


    by kuryakin

    Wasn't trying to get too personal in my post above, just saying how the finale worked for me in that it had emotional resonance. <br> I mean I know Herc thinks this show is just meant for little girls learning to masturbate but it has been a pretty satisfying show and never jumped the shark IMO <br> Also, man has there ever been a more irreligious long running show on TV? Angels are sanctimonious pricks who hate humans, God's a total dick who says he doesn't give a fuck when they ask for help and then when everything works out is like, oh yeah I was working away behind the scenes more than you know. Yeah right God, thanks for taking credit there, typical manager <br> overall I'm ambivalent about S6 because on the one hand I do kind of want to see Dean fulfill his promise of going after God, on the other I felt we had apriper ending and don't want to see it ruined

  • May 21, 2010, 1:53 a.m. CST

    Is Dean gonna pull a 'Jesse Custer'?

    by nico_laos

    There's a lot of potential with a guy who says he's going after God and is dead serious about it.

  • May 21, 2010, 1:55 a.m. CST


    by kuryakin

    Every time some idiot like me double posts, someone else should say ' you can say that again'

  • May 21, 2010, 2:16 a.m. CST


    by Meadowe

    cuz I'm tired of hearing remy zero at the end credits of Supernatural.

  • May 21, 2010, 2:19 a.m. CST

    and the last few Supernatural episodes were kinda meh

    by Meadowe

    I thought matt frewer would've had a bigger role, and the final episode was just disappointing. Part of me wanted to see michael take Dean, and was pleasantly surprised when Dean didn't give in, but I kinda wish michael would've forced himself in Dean somehow.

  • May 21, 2010, 3:05 a.m. CST

    SN S5 was a hit and miss season

    by CrusherBuddyRevell

    But still it was much better than most other tv shows going on. What boggles my mind about this season is how easily the Horsemen (except for Death) have been defeated. 2 Horsemen in 1 episode was a bit too much. And Lucifer was disposed off very easily as well. When watching this season I didn't feel that an apocalypse was going on. The apocalyptic atmosphere just wasn't there. I never had the feeling that all hope was lost. That's what I would expect with an apocalypse. Can't wait for next season though. And I wouldn't mind seeing a big budget Supernatural film. Supernatural rocks.

  • May 21, 2010, 3:15 a.m. CST

    @nico_laos - Now THAT would be a fucking story.

    by V'Shael

    They could probably stretch that out to 5 years. One pissed off human versus a powerful (but arrogant and not-really-paying-much-attention) god who we've already learned isn't the all-powerful we believed, and who DEATH claims he will one day reap.<br /><p><br />I'd love to see SN's take on a Preacher type storyline.

  • May 21, 2010, 3:31 a.m. CST

    $@#% MY DAD SAYS

    by Meadowe

    shat's first "intentional" comedy, I wonder what the title will be hmmmmmmm

  • May 21, 2010, 6:30 a.m. CST

    It's been 5 Seasons -

    by Yeti

    If a Supernatural TB hasn't happened yet, it's not goint to.

  • May 21, 2010, 7:22 a.m. CST


    by Xiphos_2

    Unclench the cheeks tight ass.

  • May 21, 2010, 7:54 a.m. CST

    SGU not on Fridays anymore

    by DougMcKenzie

    Moving to Tuesdays next year. SYFY is airing wrestling on Fridays instead.

  • May 21, 2010, 8 a.m. CST

    Hi. I'm a man and I watch the Vampire Diaries.

    by parissun

    It's good to meet you all.

  • May 21, 2010, 9:45 a.m. CST

    I also watch Vampire Diaries

    by JackSlater4

    it's good, it's a real fucking Vampire Story, with blood and violence, and magic and action and tang.

  • May 21, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST

    The only XY critters that watch Vampire Diaries

    by NippleEffect

    are limp wristed poofs

  • May 21, 2010, 10:11 a.m. CST

    not true, that show is gangsta'

    by JackSlater4

  • May 21, 2010, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Well, looks like a boring fall season.

    by mistergreen

    Might not be worth owning a TV.

  • May 21, 2010, 10:33 a.m. CST

    RE: Well, looks like a boring fall season

    by NippleEffect

    yep, might be time to get netflix

  • May 21, 2010, 11:49 a.m. CST

    One more note on Supernatural and one on Vampire Diaries

    by Darth Busey

    1) Again, this was my first year watching, but I enjoyed the Supernatural episode that featured the "Ghost Hunter" rip-off kids. They were pretty neat. 2) My wife also watches Vampire Diaries, so I have watched that a bit as well. I can't tell if the lead chick has awesome boobs or not, since she never really wears the right kind of top to showcase it. But I'll keep tuning in until the answer is revealed.

  • May 21, 2010, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Darth Busey, maybe this will help clear things up

    by JackSlater4

  • May 21, 2010, 12:01 p.m. CST


    by yourSTEPDADDY

    should have a sitcom

  • May 21, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST


    by laivine

    Have webisodes on the CW website if you're in the US.

  • May 21, 2010, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Preacher and Supernatural

    by oisin5199

    I've actually thought for a while that Supernatural has had sort of a Hellblazer/Preacher vibe and if you're ripping off the best, you should look to them for further inspiration. But I'm not sure going after God is the best route. In Preacher, the ultimate result of that quest fell flat, imo. It was really Cassidy's story that interested me. I kinda wish that SN would introduce an anti-Castiel character. A more Cassidy/Spike character reforming his/her ways. I was kinda sad that they killed off (or hell-hounded off) Bella. She was actually a pretty cool antagonist - not evil as such, but devious. I'm also hoping that they change it up and find a 3rd way in between monster of the week and apocalyptic arc. Kinda what Angel did. Angel evolved from MOTW to apocalyptic arc (the difficult season 4), then wisely pulled back and tried something different. SN really needs to try a new formula to come back fresh next season.

  • May 21, 2010, 5:38 p.m. CST

    re: Supernatural

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    I love Supernatural as a show, but Season 5 has been lacking really, and the idea that it's all hit a reset button for the Winchesters for season six is frankly, awful.<p> Why can't we just have Dean for a season or something? At least make us BELIEVE the high stakes build up season 5 has been threatening us with and that Sam really did make a sacrifice for more than five minutes.<p> And for the record, I prefered skinny Sam. steroid-Sam just looks weird as fuck.

  • May 21, 2010, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Last episode of Supernatural

    by liljuniorbrown

    Damn that shit choked me up. The writers did an excellent job of keeping the tome serious without killing off the nervous joking that Dean and Sam do so well. I have three brothers and i've always said that i'd go to the absolute gates of hell and back for any of them. This show protraying that in a literal sense brings out the pussy in me. I hope the death slot doesn't kill this show.

  • May 22, 2010, 5:24 a.m. CST

    Supernatural Timeslot

    by thegrayghost

    Why the hell did CW move it to Fridays? Aren't Fridays typically bad for ratings? Is CW trying to kill this show off or what? I thought it was doing well on Thursday nights.

  • May 22, 2010, 6:29 a.m. CST

    Absolutely Loved the Supernatural Finale

    by thegrayghost

    How can anyone not love the love letter to the Impala and how it ties into everything? And all the flashbacks of Dean/Sam growing up together and being brothers. This episode is awesome. As much as some people would of liked a ballz out apocalypse with Michael taking over Dean's body, legions of angels/demons fighting, and cities and continents getting flattened, I'd opt for a good consistent story over another boring f/x filled 2012 or a B movie like The Prophecy (loved Christopher Walken in that though). <br><br> One, keep in mind they are confined to a TV budget. Two, it goes against what this show is trying to say about humans and demons/angels. Humans have free will and therefore "can choose" to go with or against destiny, even if demons/angels are trying to convince/coerce them into thinking that there is only one path. Angels/demons and ultimately Lucifer are set in their ways and cannot change their paths ... Lucifer tried to convince Michael "to step off the chessboard" but that failed. Michael and Lucifer's relationship is parallel to Dean and Sam's relationship, except that the Winchester brothers actually evolved beyond what they were before. Dean with his "must follow everything my father says and be a good son" and Sam's "I'm always angry, I'm the strongest, and I must rebel" attitude. Dean becomes his own person, and accepts the good/bad in himself and his brother, and more importantly, he accepts his brother's choices. Sam has also matured, so now he recognizes his own weaknesses and has become more of a team player, whereas before he was always going out on his own, arrogantly trying to fix everything, i.e. Season 4. Michael and Lucifer never changed. They are the same from when Michael threw Lucifer into hell. So, I'm glad Dean never says yes, though he came pretty damn close though.<br><br> And like another talkbacker explained above, Dean (basically representing all humans) chose freewill over paradise. Judgement day never happened, so no paradise, no hell, just more of the same. I can't wait for next season! SN season 6 should have some type of overarching storyline, but at the level of perhaps seasons 1-2. I think people will get bored and start complaining about all the monster of week eps if that's all they do. As Chuck/Kripke said in the finale, "The fans will always bitch. They're such a pain in the ass."

  • May 24, 2010, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Was Chuck God?

    by liljuniorbrown

    Thats the impression that I got. Think about it , no one could fuck with him and live during the last two seasons, he knew how it was all going to go down all along and he was in all white and vanished after typing the last sentance. I might be wrong but I thought thats where they were going.