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Read this: Shia LaBeouf just gained a ton of your respect, guaranteed.

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. It's been interesting and a bit disconcerting to me to see Shia LaBeouf so maligned in the talkbacks. I personally think the dude's a good actor who hasn't phoned in a performance yet, even in the horrible Transformers 2. Interviewing the guy in person or sitting down with him in informal, yet still kind of on-the-job ways he always struck me as level headed, passionate about his work, and strangely humble. Go back and re-read my interview with him on the set of Transformers (which is here). It's 45 minutes of him being amazingly honest about Michael Bay as a director and his unsuspected landing a leading man/action star role, which he felt was 1000% owed to Lady Luck and not anything he brought to the table. This very same humble and harsh truth tone can be found in LaBeouf's recent Cannes discussion regarding another popular '80s movie he's sequelizing, Wall Street 2. Here's where he's going to win a lot of respect from you guys, I think. Honesty is hard to come by in this business. It's not that actors and directors and producers are all bad people trying to steal your money, but there's a fear of burning bridges, ruining careers and even being sued. It's standard practice to have, essentially, a no "shit-talking" clause in contracts nowadays. No joke. So when LaBeouf openly talks about how disappointing Indiana Jones was for him, and puts himself in front of the bullet like he does, taking a lot of personal blame for the reason why it didn't work, it really grabbed my attention. I saw the full story on the LA Times Blog and will pull some of the best quotes from LaBeouf for you. On Indiana Jones as it relates to Wall Street 2:
"I feel like I dropped the ball on the legacy that people loved and cherished," LaBeouf said, explaining that this upped the ante for him before he began shooting the "Wall Street" sequel. "If I was going to do it twice, my career was over. So this was fight-or-flight for me."
On where the blame lies:
"You get to monkey-swinging and things like that and you can blame it on the writer and you can blame it on Steven [Spielberg, who directed]. But the actor's job is to make it come alive and make it work, and I couldn't do it. So that's my fault. Simple."
He's not alone in thinking Indy 4 missed the mark. Harrison Ford isn't happy either:
"We [Harrison Ford and LaBeouf] had major discussions. He wasn't happy with it either. Look, the movie could have been updated. There was a reason it wasn't universally accepted."
On what he thinks Spielberg's reaction is going to be when he hears about this frank discussion:
"I'll probably get a call. But he needs to hear this. I love him. I love Steven. I have a relationship with Steven that supersedes our business work. And believe me, I talk to him often enough to know that I'm not out of line. And I would never disrespect the man. I think he's a genius, and he's given me my whole life. He's done so much great work that there's no need for him to feel vulnerable about one film. But when you drop the ball you drop the ball."
Make sure you read the whole article by Steven Zeitchik over at the LA Times Blog. "But he needs to hear this," is probably the best thing about this whole conversation. A close second is hearing that Ford wasn't terribly happy with the movie either. I found this refreshing, especially after having just re-watched Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (back to back with the original three films no less). I think LaBeouf was a bit too harsh on himself. He's genuinely trying to make his character work and you can feel that effort... mostly because the rest of the movie seems so... disinterested. I know that doesn't make any logical sense, a movie feeling disinterested in itself, but that's what I think describes the film best. Bravo to Mr. LaBeouf for being an honest voice out there, consequences be damned. I think he probably just gained a few fans out of this interview. -Quint quint@aintitcool.com Follow Me On Twitter



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  • May 16, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST

    FIRST!

    by BadMilk

  • May 16, 2010, 8:09 p.m. CST

    Great Guy

    by Dhaemon

    Love Shia, he's going places

  • May 16, 2010, 8:09 p.m. CST

    Harry,

    by rcazzy

    I agree. Good on him. Even if it is just for favour from the viewing public, he'd take a hit for the comments. Fair play to him

  • May 16, 2010, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Even Stevens

    by StarryNight

    gotta eat

  • May 16, 2010, 8:10 p.m. CST

    So he said what we all thought...

    by UltimaRex

    Sure, that gets some respect.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:13 p.m. CST

    So he's right and he sucks!

    by cookylamoo

    This is what we've been saying all along.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Shia and Moonshine

    by Damonster

    Shia needs to strong arm some suits with his box office mojo and get the ball rolling again on The Wettest County in the World adaptation. That'll make his career... honest.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST

    by Ringworm

    that is pretty cool

  • May 16, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST

    I was already a fan...

    by Greenleaf1

    I've been a big fan of his since "The Greatest Game Ever Played" but it was refreshing to hear someone take responsibility for their mistakes in Hollywood. I've always loved it when filmmakers of any kind are open about their work, especially when they don't like it. Hollywood is so closed off to the world typically, and LaBeouf seems to be in an apologetic kind of mood with this coming just a day or two after his apology for TF2. Should be interesting to see what he does in the future now that he's said all this.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Or Quint

    by rcazzy

    Screw it, I'm tired. Still love you though

  • May 16, 2010, 8:18 p.m. CST

    I don't hate him.

    by Mr. Profit

    People really hate him. But I don't. He is not some TMZ fame whore. Sure he got bagged for being drunk at a pharmacy, but come on, it wasn't like he is some coke addicted asshole who does stupid shit to gain notoriety. <P>As far as his film work is concerned, he got his current fame not because of Transformers (which helped a lot), it was because he carried Disturbia by himself. And what could have been a bullshit PG13 thriller turned out to be a solid film where his acting made it all work. See The Stepfather remake and watch Disturbia and you will see how the bullshit Stepfather remake pales in comparison. <P>Indy 4 was a misstep, but it we also now live in a love hate world where people either overrate something or they absolutely despise something with no in between. And Shia swinging on monkey vines sealed the deal. <P>Glad he is honest. And hopefully his next projects will be better. But why is it that he is honest, but Heigl is considered a bitch for doing the same thing?

  • May 16, 2010, 8:18 p.m. CST

    nic cage

    by pussyslayer09

    should give at least 100 interviews like this.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST

    The Greatest Game Ever Played was a good flick.

    by Chewtoy

    I enjoy Shia LeBeouf as an actor, though I'm not a big fan of his blockbusters, which have had some serious problems. But he'll, it's not like I would have turned down any of the roles he's had if they were offered to me.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Gobsmackingly honest and earnest.

    by JuanSanchez

  • May 16, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST

    He's still a douche

    by RainesMaker

    Facts are facts.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Mr. Profit - it's cause he's respectful and owns up to...

    by JuanSanchez

    his own failures and is grateful for his success. Heigl seems ungrateful and just complains all the time. Like she's better than everyone else.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST

    I thought he gave his respects to the legendary DIO

    by JonOfTheShred

    RIP \m/

  • May 16, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST

    One big difference between him and Heigl ...

    by Chewtoy

    Is that he actually shares in the blame and phrases it like he is still part of the team that made the flicks. The impression Heigl gives when she badmouths a project is that she's turning on her former collaborators and laying the blame on them.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Props for admitting it...

    by SamLoomis1978

    Now, let's hope "Wall Street 2" is good.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Is he still dating Carey Mulligan?

    by Box_Bruceleitner

    If so, fuck him, she's mine.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:27 p.m. CST

    No no no no nononononononononono

    by Mike_D

    his best lines ever

  • May 16, 2010, 8:27 p.m. CST

    +1 to this guy

    by mongo126

    The Greatest Game Ever Played was a good flick.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:28 p.m. CST

    Respect. Wonder if he could have expressed

    by SkinJob69

    his concerns about the material before or during the shoot? Not sure if the 'Berg would have taken advice from him, but I hope Shia didn't hide his legitimate issues with the script the whole time. If he did, he's certainly as much to blame as anyone else involved with Crystal Skull.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Except that he's wrong

    by rev_skarekroe

    Few people had a problem with LeBouf or his character in the film after they saw it. It was the other stuff. He did as well as a tree-swinging greaser teen as you could.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:32 p.m. CST

    He was good in Indy 4, yes, I said it, bitches!

    by Drath

    God, shut the fuck up about Indy 4! The movie was a let down because it was such a slave its own action franchise formula. The whole last act was by the fucking numbers--and that's the part that needs to kick our asses the most because it's what's freshest in our minds when we leave. There was NOTHING wrong with Mutt being Indy's son, and in fact I wanted him to be if he was Marion Ravenwood's kid. Anyone who didn't like that is just a fucking Shia-hating cunt. This better not shot dead the Indy 5 that was discussed, and yes Mutt should be there along with Marion in Indy's continuing life. They should morph into Johnny Quest and his dad in set up (if Dr. Quest and Race were the same guy). Again, fuck the haters--in a way that won't enjoy of course.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Speaking of Greatest Game Ever Played

    by Box_Bruceleitner

    Is Bill Paxton ever going to get behind the camera again? I haven't checked IMDb yet or anything, I know he's busy with Big Love too but damn, Frailty is such a great fucking movie.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:32 p.m. CST

    I'm not sure what's amazing about these quotes...

    by Ribbons

    ...people take responsibility for and/or trash their own work all the time. Saying "Indiana Jones would have been better if I SOLD it," doesn't seem like an earth-shattering quote, and if anything is more diplomatic than a genuinely frank discussion about the movie deserves. By contrast, here's what Matthew Goode had to say about his (modestly successful) romantic comedy Leap Year: <br> <br> "It's turgid. I just know that there are a lot of people who will say it is the worst film of 2010. (The location) was the main reason I took it - so that I could come home at the weekends. It wasn't because of the script, trust me. I was told it was going to be like The Quiet Man with a Vaughan Williams soundtrack, but in the end it turned out to have pop music all over it. Do I feel I let myself down? No. Was it a bad job? Yes, it was. But, you know, I had a nice time and I got paid." <br> <br> So, ya know. There's honest and then there's honest. That said, I don't have a problem with Shia LaBeouf at all. I think he's a talented, hard-working actor, and if his skyrocketing career is a little bit lucky, I still think he's earned it.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Good for him..

    by Nemesis Enforcer

    I bet he even felt a little better after telling it like it is, but i bet there are gonna be some unplesent phone calls made Monday. I never had an issue with Shia, it has mainly been the writers and directors around him that have really dropped the ball. You can only polish a turd so much.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Shia Labeouf

    by PlayerHater_of_the_year

    Isn't why Crystal Skull sucked, It was comical non-threatening villains, It was the cheap jungle sound stage inter-spliced with cheap cg set, It was acrobatic Xena like native villains living in the ruins, It was stogy old non-swashbuckling Dr. Jones, It was the lackluster "archeology" and goofy stumbling into traps, It was feeling embarrassed for the actors on screen for having to go through this drek, It was the fact that after twenty years this was the best they could come up with, It was because Steven Spielberg let the once marginally talented George Lucas come within a hundred feet of the production. Every aspect of this movie was terrible right down to Shia Labeouf's hat. Spielberg made the worst movie of his career and Lucas made his fourth or fifth worse. It wasn't Shia Labeouf's fault.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Hurt was the real problem

    by shutupfanboy

    I didn't have a major problem with the film even the nuke the fridge scene til he showed up. I hate semi-retarded characters who are supposed to funny. He killed what little momentum the movie film had. I don't know mind the aliens since the Skull is sorta based on them. It would be like no ghosts in Ark or old knight in Crusade if they no showed.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:34 p.m. CST

    One love Shia, one love.

    by Dr. Samuel Loomis

  • May 16, 2010, 8:36 p.m. CST

    mess up Wall Street 2 & career over??

    by Jimbonx

    lol - nope. He will continue to churn out rubbish. Has this guy been in anything good?

  • May 16, 2010, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Who gives a shit!!!!

    by FilmGuy125

    RONNIE JAMES DIO IS DEAD!!!! WHERE'S THE OBIT???

  • May 16, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Shia stinks more than Sam Worthington

    by lcworld

    about as interesting as Ben Affleck. Boring actors lucky to be in mega budget Special FX extravagenza.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST

    I thought maybe he quit Transformers 3

    by Mgmax

    Now THAT would earn him some respect.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Refreshing

    by Star Hump

    To see someone actually tell the truth for once. But Shia IS being too harsh on himself. He'an actor and he did his best with the script and the character he was given. That's his job. The truth is, his character should never have been written into the film in the first place. It was a terrible idea, one of many in that misbegotten movie.<p> The blame, ALL of the blame, for Crystal Skull goes to Spielberg, George Lucas, David Koepp (screenplay) and Jeff Nathanson (story) -- YOU INSINCERE, DISCONNECTED, HALF-ASSED OAFS.<p> Lucas in particular should be called out for extra scorn as he didn't just stain the tradition of Indiana Jones, but Star Wars too - 3 movies worth of shite in the latter case.<P> I'll be REALLY impressed when Spielberg and Lucas start to tell the truth, and not a hired actor. But we'll never see that. They're above it all, of course. The film made money, and that's all that really matters in the end.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:39 p.m. CST

    I met Shia a few years ago

    by RPLocke

    It was during promos for Disturbia. He is a nice guy, and I think he's a decent actor.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:40 p.m. CST

    @ next years Cannes he'll probably be apologizing for Wall Stree

    by bbbbeeeennnn

  • May 16, 2010, 8:40 p.m. CST

    So Shia just called...

    by I_shot_Cyrus

    He's remaking Breakin with Jaden Smith

  • May 16, 2010, 8:40 p.m. CST

    "actors job is to make it work"

    by Jimbonx

    No actor is going to make Indy4 or "MONKEY SWINGINGtm" work. Its all on the writers/creators. Why is he even attempting to take the blame?

  • May 16, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST

    And his body will be found floating in a river...

    by br1947

    you don't mess with The Beard, never mess with The Beard... <br><br>but I have to admit it was a smart move on Shia's part to regain viewer interest

  • May 16, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST

    He's not an actor, he's a movie star ...

    by JamieCOTC95

    ... but is that his fault? I liked him in Disturbia and he could have been a good actor, but Hollywood went and made him a movie star instead. Didn't like either Transformers movies. Didn't care for Crystal Skull either, but LaBeouf was not to blame for that. Speilburg and Lucas are to blame. Kudos for LaBeouf calling it (half of it anyway). Still not a big fan of his, but maybe he'll surprise in Wall Street 2.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Now can some SW actors call-out Lucas as well?

    by BubbaDestructo

    I love the original trilogy, but the later trilogy...well, you know.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Indy 4 Is WAY Worse Than The Prequels

    by LaserPants

    It's a serious contender for the worst movie ever made.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST

    jim

    by Nemesis Enforcer

    I don't see it as him taking blame so much as taking responsibilty for his part in it. Something few people on this planet seem capable of these days.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:46 p.m. CST

    Its Bad

    by PlayerHater_of_the_year

    but not Phantom Menace Bad, that's in a league all its own. Like a Dante's Inferno Circle of Hell bad.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:46 p.m. CST

    When Shia LaBeouf refused to leave Walgreens

    by johndillingers20inchseveredcock

    he was declared... AN OOOUUTTTLLLAAAWWWWW!!! Good to hear these comments from him. I can't say I've seen him do a particularly bad job in anything. Although KOTCS was a bit off the mark.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Shia & his character didn't belong in Indy 4

    by daggor

    He should have known it and Lucas & Spielberg should have known it. But they didn't. The only way for Shia to gain my respect is to NEVER play Mutt again. And.. luck? He has a really good agent or some sort of inside track. He kept popping up in movies where he & his character had no point being in (I, Robot, Charlie's Angels 2). He was a cute TV kid, Holes was a good film, then I got the feeling he's being crammed down our throats out of some desperate need for him to be a star.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Wow... you're right.

    by TheMarineBiologist

    The dude just garnered quite a bit of respect back...

  • May 16, 2010, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Shia is nice guy, but....

    by Sicuv Uyall

    let's all put the blame squarely on the one who really deserves it!! He was actually good in the movie, but even Sir Laurence Olivier wouldn't be able to fight off the shittiness of CGI monkeys. Yeah, the brunt of the blame goes to the man behind it all... LUCAS!!!

  • May 16, 2010, 8:50 p.m. CST

    He was really corny in Constantine

    by Box_Bruceleitner

    That's probably the worst performance I've seen from him, was quite pleased when he was killed off in it.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Yeah, okay. Respect +5

    by Robstar

    It takes cohones to talk shit on an Indy film you starred in. But in a perfect world, that Indy film would not have had to be defended or debated in the first place. Lesson learned, so please go make a good Indy film.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:53 p.m. CST

    The way they wrote his Indy4 character didn't help

    by crankyoldguy

    The whole "Wild One" motorcycle thing was dumb. Indy have a son he didn't know about w/ Marion? Sure. But why not just make him a college kid, period? Or or more artistic -beatnikish poet dropout or something? But Shia as tough kid? No way. Impressed he takes some of the blame. And part of the movie are still, well, Indy-watchable. And I'm on the side of those who do want one more, done right.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Shia couldn't save the monkey swinging

    by MrD

    No one could. I don't care if they cast a 25 year old Brando in the role. Crystal Skull suffered from too many cooks adding too many elements,and no one bothering to give it a final pass to make sure it hung together. There is nothing wrong with the essential elements of that story - but it needed streamlining, stronger character work and single tone.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:58 p.m. CST

    So, still in Transformers 3

    by miniglik

    I also thought maybe he'd dropped out of Transformers 3 based on the article title. I don't hate him at all though. Seems like a decent fellow.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Looking at his IMDB..

    by Jimbonx

    at least the guy is consistent. Im expecting WS2 to follow the trend.

  • May 16, 2010, 8:59 p.m. CST

    so basically this means no shia in indy 5

    by Bathman

    The beards will destroy shia career even before it got started, smoth move you idiot, maybe next you should insult barack obama

  • May 16, 2010, 9 p.m. CST

    Cranky - You're right

    by MrD

    Shia doesn't work for the "Wild One" type character they were going for, and for that I suspect Speilberg is to blame, as he very much wanted to work with Shia. The character could have been rewritten. He didn't even have to be more clean cut,but the Wild One imagery didn't work with him. At the same time, EVERYONE knew he was going to be Indy's kid. Everyone knew Marion was his mom. It was a giant fucking error to try to make it a mystery. If Indy knows from the start that he's Mutt's dad, it would have helped. It also would have helped if they got rid of Big Brother and had Marion be the one in jeopardy, streamlining the cast and upping the stakes for the audience.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:01 p.m. CST

    I've never disliked the kid.

    by solanine

    He's someone that, barring some idiotic career choices or drug problems, could really end up being a well-respected actor. I've read a couple other interviews where he comes off as being a genuine, humble person. That's pretty refreshing given the times.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:03 p.m. CST

    I liked Shia even before he became so much famous

    by ominus

    and he shouldnt blame himself for the mediocrity that Indy4 was.Lucas and SS ruined the film,not him.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Shia's Never Been the Problem...

    by Hufu Man

    Dude's an excellent actor. He just gets crammed into these huge roles on megageek projects that never turn out. They're movies we all want to love but end up hating, and I think he's wrongly taken the blame for some of that. He's always had my respect, now, even more so.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Moose

    by Jimbonx

    Think he is saying that they saw the final cut, thought it was bad then just said "f it" and release it anyways.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Spin and nothing more.

    by jimbojones123

  • May 16, 2010, 9:07 p.m. CST

    I don't get why people dislike him

    by slaughterstorm

    he seems like a nice guy, and a pretty talented actor...it doesn't make sense to me.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:09 p.m. CST

    I had him pegged...

    by shoveller

    ...since I saw him as the annoying kid brother on some kids show that I can't for the life of me remember the name of now... Anyone?

  • May 16, 2010, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Shia Labeouf just called me

    by ominus

    He was crying and told me that SS came home and smacked him for the bad words he said against him.he also told him that he is out of the Jew Circle and his career is over in Holywood for good.poor fellow.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:11 p.m. CST

    hilarious

    by Bouncy X

    now everyone's all "oh i like him, he wasn't the problem". but yet in all the transformers talkbacks there's constant hate thrown towards him. i mean i knew this would happen but its still funny. and whats with all the "where's the Dio obit" shit? he wasn't an actor or connected to hollywood so of course he isnt mentioned here.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Why all the Crystal Skull hate??

    by darthwaz1

    I really don't get it...it's a fine movie that looks and feels totally 1950's, doesn't rely totally on comic relief like Last Crusade did, and fits fine in the Indy cannon.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Until he cuts his brillo pad hair...

    by 3D-Man

    I will NEVER have respect for the man.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Shia just revelaed himself to be an opprtunist moron

    by Proman1984

    Quint I am embarrassed for you. Way to to be a cheap hater. Shia just proved himself to be a very manipulative and glib man. And it pains me to say this as I have long hoped that he is a different type of guy. When he came out he came out and critisized Transfoerms 2 I listened. OK, once was cute if not refreshing. Third time around however, it just seems like something he's doing just to suck up to the online hater culture. More importantly, it just comes of as very cheap way to do so and the fact that it happened multiple times makes me wonder if Shia thinks that poo-pooing his works for any reason is just something he should to advance his career.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST

    So, Shia is an Oportunist and Indy 4 is a movie a lot admire

    by Proman1984

    A perfectly good film

  • May 16, 2010, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Lack of an ending

    by enderandrew

    Indy IV wasn't the worst film in the world. There are sequences in it that are genuinely fun. The problem is that there isn't an ending. Indy gets captured, and the villains get what they want. Generally that is a horrible story to tell. Technically it worked in Raiders of the Lost Ark, except when it came out, the ending was shocking and brutal. The villains were destroyed. In Crystal Skull, it looks like the villains go up on the ship with the aliens, which is basically what they wanted. I know Lucas demanded that everyone work around his story idea, but at some point in time Harrison Ford, Spielberg, Darabont, Koepp, or someone should have said, "Hey, George, don't you think Indy needs to save the day?"

  • May 16, 2010, 9:17 p.m. CST

    I've got no beef with Shia. He was the only, and I mean...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...ONLY good thing about the first TRANSFORMERS...didn't see the second though.<P> No blame is on him for INDY 4. None.<P> DISTURBIA was a charming little flick...I wish him good luck.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Agree with above: Indy IV was far from his fault

    by RandySavage

    You could have had your favorite actor in his role and it wouldn't have changed the weakness of the script/story structure. Indy IV's problem were 70% in the script, 15% in the direction, 10% in Harrison "Indiana Jones" Ford having disappeared from the earth after 1989, and only 1-5% in Shia's cloying acting-style. <P> I respect these candid interviews, but I still don't really care for him as an actor - particularly as a leading man.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Indy 4 didn't miss the mark for me

    by Orionsangels

    If it did for you. Sucks to be you.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST

    I respect him alot more now

    by cgih8r

    Shia's a genuine kind of guy. It takes balls to own up to mistakes especially if they are not your mistakes. I'm glad someone like him can make it in hollywood these days. Anyone who hates the guy is either stupid or jealous of his success.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST

    I declare Shia to be an OUTLAAAAAAAW!

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    Yep, I went there.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Transformers 3

    by enderandrew

    He and Megan Fox were relative unknowns when they started that franchise. I bet you they both got staked to 3 picture deals from the beginning. Megan Fox seems to hate Bay, and still did 2. I'm pretty sure she was contractually obligated to do it.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Elephant in the Room = Lucas

    by quantize

    thats very nice he accepts it sucks..but let's be honest..we know who has the worst record on film lately and that aint Spielberg...cue the douches ready to defend those diabolical prequels.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Hail to the Beef!

    by Fievel

  • May 16, 2010, 9:35 p.m. CST

    I didn't need him to tell me Ford wasn't happy with Indy 4

    by TheSeeker7

    No offense but, mostly common sense told me that on its own, that deep down Ford wasn't all that thrilled with how Crystal Skull turned out.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:36 p.m. CST

    I already liked Shia...

    by blackwood

    He's a good actor and seems like a nice guy.<p>He's last year's Sam Worthington -- some dude who started appearing in all kinds of geek properties without 'earning' it. The majority of Talkback hate is thinly veiled jealousy.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:37 p.m. CST

    My bet is that Indy 5 is coming sooner than we think....

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I'll give Shia a point of two for speaking out about Indy 4....but then again that flick is a few years old. These "honest" comments are coming loooong after everyone involved has cashed their paychecks and the dvd's have been pressed and sold. What this mostly tells me is that Indy 5 is likely on the way and they want to mend fences with us all to secure another nice box-office take. Nothing wrong with that...but lets hope if that's the case Indy 5 actually is better and doesn't shit on the legacy anymore than the last entry did. As far as the monkeys swinging on vines bit....no actor on Earth could have made that goofy shit work.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Seems like a cool dude.

    by garybuseys_incisors

    He's a pretty solid actor. Shia, if you're reading this, no one's performance could have saved either Indy 4 or Transformers 2. Cool you're pretty down to earth, though.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:42 p.m. CST

    I agree, Lucas is to blame for Indy IV

    by Happyfat73

    After reading the pretty awesome Frank Darabont script for Indy IV, I couldn't help but think that George Lucas must have been smoking crack when he rejected that and went for the shit script by David Koepp. Had they filmed the Darabont script, Indy IV would have been approximately 100x better.</p> What makes it sadder, is that if you read the awesome story meeting transcript notes for Raiders of the Lost Ark (http://tinyurl.com/aum42e), it highlights just how spent George Lucas is as a creative force. Back in those days, he was the man... these days, he's just a tired old cynic trying to wring money from his halcyon days.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:43 p.m. CST

    He's not an "excellent actor"

    by RandySavage

    An excellent actor is someone who can inhabit a role and make you forget the separation of the actor & the character. An excellent actor can play a broad range of characters from heroes to villains - and play them all differently. <P> Gary Oldman, Daniel Day Lewis, Edward Norton, Mark Strong are examples of excellent actors. <P> For the up & coming generation, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Ryan Gosling, Aaron Johnson show promise as great actors. <P> Shia, on the other hand, is not an excellent actor. He can only play his Shia character - a nerdy outsider adolescent who can't fight or defend himself and is desperate to get laid, always jabbering "no, no, no, no, no, no, no".

  • May 16, 2010, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Shia's going to the George Clooney school of self-deprecation.

    by BEARison Ford

    See: Batman & Robin

  • May 16, 2010, 9:47 p.m. CST

    George Lucas made excuses for TOD...

    by Grapes_of_Khan

    ,on the Indy trilogy DVD set. He explained how he had been going through his divorce and he was feeling all dark and angry, towards his soon-to-be ex. Hence the scene, with a guy getting his heart ripped out, of his chest. So this kind of apologist language has been in play, on the Indy films before.<p> If they're serious, about making a fifth one, they need to hire a good writer and stop messing, with what he delivers. I have no doubt that Frank Darabont's script would have made a far better film than KotCS was.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:47 p.m. CST

    @shoveller

    by Brick_Walker

    That show was Even Stevens. That show was badass. Shia's best movie was Holes. Good luck trying to top that. Oh and, Ronnie James Dio RIP Muthafuckers!! \m/

  • May 16, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Knew he was gonna be a star when....

    by thot

    ...I saw him in the Even Stevens TV series my kids loved to watch. I was impressed and predicted he was going to well in films. I like the guy. Sure, I hate the awful Transformers movies and Indy 4 was a disaster, but Shia always shows up ready to work and has great on-screen appeal. I think he's a fine actor. Look forward to seeing him in Wall Street.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST

    I'll say this, the kids got a pair

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

  • May 16, 2010, 9:49 p.m. CST

    RandySavage

    by RPLocke

    Ed Norton? Really? Okay then.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Shia did suck, but he wasn't the worst

    by Powerring

    part of Indiana Jones...the script was, and so were the weak CGI effects.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:52 p.m. CST

    RPLocke, you're right about Norton...

    by RandySavage

    forget I mentioned him.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Ed Norton is the MAN

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    He's proven himself time and time again as a great actor.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Very cool

    by BunnyMcNibbnles

    Although I actually didn't think the film was THAT bad, all you nerds living in your MOM'S BASEMENTS need to shut the fuck up now about LaBooboof being in every movie that's out at the moment. Why don't all you dorks go start an acting career and do it better? I think we can put the Shia Labradoodleboofa hate to rest now. And, by the way - ARE YOU LISTENING, STALLONE? A celebrity honest with the fans?

  • May 16, 2010, 9:57 p.m. CST

    RIP R J Dio

    by eoneon

    sad news. i don't even listen to metal anymore,but rock lost an icon today. RIP brother

  • May 16, 2010, 9:57 p.m. CST

    only seen him in 5 films

    by frank cotton

    TF/TF2, CONSTANTINE, EAGLE EYE, and IJ4. liked all of them, and liked his work in them. that said, IJ4 was off the mark. have watched TF/TF2 and CONSTANTINE repeatedly. haters are just jealous - truth hurts, i know

  • May 16, 2010, 9:58 p.m. CST

    So, he makes retarded movies...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    then admits they're retarded? And this is supposed to gain Shitty LaBeef my respect?!??! Fuck OFF.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Brando couldn't have saved the monkey-swinging.

    by cinemixtape.com

    At least, I don't think so. There's nothing anyone could have done acting-wise to improve that turd of a movie.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Good for him!!!

    by DoctorWho?

    And Harrison! Shia haters are barking up the wrong tree.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Holes was great...

    by tj donkey show

    ...and I don't understand the hate.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Ed Norton

    by enderandrew

    Is one of the best actors in Hollywood. He can disappear into roles and be completely different from movie to movie. Watch American History X, and then Primal Fear, and the Death to Smoochy, and then Fight Club. Ed Norton is one of the 5 best actors in Hollywood.

  • May 16, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    BunnyMcNibbnles

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    You actually didn't think the film was THAT bad? What was so good about it?

  • May 16, 2010, 10 p.m. CST

    Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    by enderandrew

    You're a kid starting out in Hollywood. Steven Spielberg comes up to you and says he thinks you're going to be the next Tom Hanks, and asks you to do two projects for him, Transformers and Indy IV. What kid is turning Spielberg down?

  • May 16, 2010, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Whoa, that was weird.

    by cinemixtape.com

    Someone already invoked the name of Brando in relation to monkey-swinging. I guess I missed that.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Nope.

    by fiester

    Saying "I suck" does not get any respect from me. The Beef is shit and needs to stay out of acting.

  • Monkey swinging aside, he gave the film some vitality. I'm looking forward to Wall Street 2. <p> One a side note, I finally got around to watching Alice in Wonderland tonight. Holy Shit was that awful. When Johnny Depp started popping and locking at the end, that was your monkey vine swinging moment right there.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Shia was not the problem with Indy 4

    by MattmanReturns

    He did pretty much all you could do with the character as written. But when you have him swinging on vines with CG monkeys, it doesn't matter anymore. Hell, even Harrison Ford was reduced to a cartoon character. Crystal Skull would be a lot better movie minus CG gophers, CG monkeys, and a certain fridge scene. It's all the cartoon shit that hurts it more than anything. Without that, it would fit snugly with the previous three films.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:03 p.m. CST

    What kid is turning Spielberg down?

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I would be THAT kid...I'd say "Steven I loved Jaws, Raiders of the Lost Arc and ET - which made me cry like a bitch when I was a kid - but if you seriously think I'm going to swing with cartoon monkeys you sir are out of your fucking mind."

  • May 16, 2010, 10:04 p.m. CST

    I Never Disliked Him OR Blamed Him For Indy 4

    by EnderIsBackToSmiteOnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFags

    This kid is a good actor, I don't see how anyone can reasonably say otherwise. I like the fact that he is mostly self made too, I respect that very much. I hope he does well.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:04 p.m. CST

    I never understood all the hate for him.

    by Ironhelix

    He always seemed like a good guy, and I think he tries as hard as he can in the roles he's been given.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:04 p.m. CST

    enderandrew, no one would...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    but that doesn't change my reaction: namely, that Quint claimed this interview would gain Shitty my respect, it didn't, so I gave a "fuck off" to the article in general and Shitty in particular.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST

    I can admit that I am jealous of Shia...

    by RandySavage

    He probably makes 3x what I do annually and does a much more fun/less-stressful job than I-banking. <P> My jealousy doesn't change the fact that he was a good child actor, is a mediocre young adult actor and that he is where he is because the Hollywood powers that be (Spielberg) want him to be their poster-boy.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST

    There's a lot of "cartoon shit" in Temple and Crusade...

    by Admonisher

    Particularly in Crusade, IMHO. Spielberg piled on the slapstick, and the plot holes are big enough to drive a tank through. The cartoony elements in Crystal Skull are benign by comparison. I realize I'm in the minority.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Shia LaBeouf is the sexiest tomboy beanpole

    by johndillingers20inchseveredcock

  • May 16, 2010, 10:06 p.m. CST

    here I was thinking he was going to say

    by MurderMostFowl

    "I'm not doing transformers 3 because the whole franchise is a pile of shit. Now, if you'll excuse me, Peter Cullen and I are going to get drunk and watch the original Cartoon Movie. Mother fuckin Orson Welles people!" <BR><BR> Now that would have garnered respect.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST

    the "hate" for Shia.......

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ....is mostly due to it being the popular thing to do on the internet. Don't fool yourself into thinking the same people who have typed the most awful shit about him aren't the same people who have seen many of his movies in the theater.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST

    stop being so harsh shit

    by nymetsfan2191

    i know revenge of the fallen sucked, i never botherd watching indy 4 b/c i didnt see any indy movie nor do i want too.but hes a pretty good actor he was good in disturbia and transformers 1

  • May 16, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST

    The darabont indy 4 script was just as bad

    by Bathman

    possible even worse then what we ended up with, it read like a fanboys fantasy indy adventure, it would have been a huge joke if it made it to the screen. For fucks sake darabont even had star wars references in there, which makes no sense because even though ford played both, i never saw han solo in indy and i didn't eed to start with references designed just to make fanboys cream themselves<P>I'll nenver get the love that darbonts script gets, i think it's just a case of it never happend so therefore it's "cool"

  • May 16, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST

    "Hey George, don't you think Indy needs to save the day?"

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    The only film of the Indy Quadrilogy that features Indy saving the day was Temple Of Doom. ALL THREE of the remaining film finds Indy as the hostage of the villains, who then proceed to essentially do themselves in while Indy watches (or *doesn't* watch, in the case of Raiders). It's actually kind of funny that the sole Indy film where he KICKS ASS right up until the end credits start is the one that, until Crystal Skull was released, was widely considered the "bad" Indy film.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:08 p.m. CST

    PS, he was far from the main problem with KOCS...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    but in general, can't stand his personality. He just strikes me as wanting to come off as all likable and goofy, but being secretly demented. Like, in ten years it's going to come out that Shia bites old ladies and eats stray cats alive, or whatever. <p> PS, this is coming from somebody who likes Woody Allen, Mel Brooks, Gene Wilder, Richard Dreyfuss, Jeff Goldblum, and Matthew Broderick. I have a pretty high tolerance for geeky, shitty Jewish people. But Shitty is just too geeky and too shitty for me.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:09 p.m. CST

    He's still

    by Phategod2

    The poor man's Giovanni Ribisi

  • May 16, 2010, 10:10 p.m. CST

    whatever happened to Gene Wilder?

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    he was friggin' awesome.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Both Shitty and Slutty...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    have said they don't know what the fuck RotF was about. I wonder if Orci and Kurtzman know...somehow I doubt those two know what universe they're in. <P> I have no idea what either of the Transformers things are about, because I've never seen them, nor will I ever.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Some GREAT, funny posts here... I would like to commend

    by RandySavage

    fat rancor keeper, Fa Tass DinoMolester, in particular, for making laugh out loud.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:12 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper, he was dealing with cancer...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    for a while. He's writing books now...his latest came out in March: <P>http://www.amazon.com/What-This-Thing-Called-Love/dp/0312598904/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_2

  • May 16, 2010, 10:13 p.m. CST

    RandySavage, thanks...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    I do what I can...

  • May 16, 2010, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Not Sold

    by darth rod

    Why the Shia hate? easy: he is young, fricking rich and got to star on geek franchises. Why I don't give him "respect" after this: Indy 4 problems are on a script level, which I supposed he read before signing on for Mutt (and taking millions to his bank account), so unless he can't read there is no excuse, Monkey swinging was on the script, If he had any balls he would have said no to the role after reading the script. Indy's legacy is compromised on the script if he really cared about the legacy he would have walk out right then. He didn't, he took the job, the money, the benefits, saying no to his mentor-figure that would have been respect worthy. Throwing him shit after the fact doesn't fly with me. Do I blame him for not walking out to a chance to star beside Harrison on a Indy film with The Berg at the helm? No. Do I respect him for that? fuck no.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:14 p.m. CST

    This means no Indy 5+, and it should

    by mistergreen

  • May 16, 2010, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Bathman, Temple of Doom had Star Wars references, too

    by BumLove

    Like Club Obi Wan...and the thing at the end where Indy chases a few Thuggees only to run into a much bigger group of Thuggees, like Han with the storm troopers. Not saying that Darabont's script was any good or not, I never read it, but that wouldn't be a criteria used to discredit it.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:15 p.m. CST

    I met Shia in NYC...

    by Darth_Kaos

    ...the summer before Transformers 1 came out, and he was one of the coolest people I've ever met. He dif seems like a straight shooter.<br> Some of you fucknuckles need to watch some of his others movies besides KOTCS and T1 &T2. Then you'll see that this kid has talent, and that every actor can do stupid parts. Johnny Deep and the pirate movies? come on!

  • May 16, 2010, 10:17 p.m. CST

    I could post a lengthy jeremiad of why Shia sucks.

    by fiester

    But, really, what's the point when renting any one of his movies is far more eloquent.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Thanks Randy! I do what I can!

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    Fa_Tass_DinoMolester does what he can too....but that amounts to very, very little actually.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:18 p.m. CST

    oops

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    sorry i took your post as a stab at me - eggs on my face. my bad yo! Sucks to hear about Gene though.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:20 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    well at least I don't sob like a girl every time some clueless Jedi wannabe drops a door on my Rancor.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:20 p.m. CST

    TOD gets a free pass but Skull gets bashed

    by RPLocke

    In TOD we get a fakey fall down a rock face, and in Skull we get monkey swings through a jungle.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Wha...?

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    I wasn't referring to you at all. Well, whatever.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:21 p.m. CST

    DON'T EVER BRING UP MY RANCOR!!!!!

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    It hurts too much.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:22 p.m. CST

    So we can all agree now Indy 4 = shit?

    by umbral_shadow_

    Now Shia Lebeef and Harry Ford have more or less admitted KOCS is a crock of shit, its time for all the Indy 4 apologists to slink away for good. Kudos to LaBeef for saying it, it took balls to do that. I like the kid. If only Hayden Christenssen had the balls to say the same about the SW prequels.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:23 p.m. CST

    fakey fall down a rock face....

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    "fakey fall down a rock face" DEFEATS "monkey swings through a jungle" any day of the week.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    RPLocke, TOD is insanely fun...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    and gives our heroes and villains actual motive. KOCS is dull as dishwater, has no plot and has our hero do things "because the skull told me to". That's the real difference...

  • May 16, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST

    There's a lot of people in this world who are truly in bad situa

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    Tell that to CONAN OBRIEN!

  • May 16, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper, just go to Kamino...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    and have him cloned. So long as he doesn't have a New Zealand accent for no apparent reason...

  • May 16, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST

    So the guy who was actually in it doesn't mention Lucas

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Yet some of you retards still obsessively blame the man with 80 necks. It's just sick.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:27 p.m. CST

    "Look at that shit people have said about Russell Crowe"

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I assume he hasn't read any of it. Otherwise he'd throw phones at every last one of us.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:27 p.m. CST

    In Shia's defense

    by Darth Melkor

    No one could make the monkey vine swinging look good and not ridiculous. I mean come on. That's the fault of the writers.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Sorry, Quint...

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    But Shia LaBeouf is still a lousy actor. So he badmouths Indy 4 now. So what? Now that the entire world has weighed in as hating the movie, that hardly seems brave. In fact, it seems designed as a way to reboot his career by saying, "Yeah, I/it was horrible, but this next movie..." He's still an overrated pretty-boy who, while maybe never "phoning in" as performance, has never shown any real depth or substance in any movie he's made. He's the poster boy for what's wrong with Hollywood casting right now, and his too-late "apology" doesn't change that. He still sucks. Period.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Get That Monkey Off Your Back Shia!

    by CellarDweller

    Actually, as much as I couldn't stand Shia in the first Transformers for acting like he was hopped up on more blow than Bay has ever done in his entire life, my opinion has changed to a degree. Compared to say, Megan Fox, the dude does have actual acting chops. I don't blame Crystal Skullfuck on him. Sure, he along with Ford read a shitty script and took the paycheck anyway, but the blame really rests squarely on the tripple chins of George Lucas for passing on what was no doubt an amazing script by Frank Darabont. Speilberg also deserves a huge Hungry Man portion of the blame for being George's prison bitch and not standing up to the evil Emperor. I don't have high hopes for Wall Street 2 but that has more to do with the fact that the sun set on the careers of Oliver Stone and Michael Douglas a while ago. Props to Shia for speaking his mind, but if Transformers 3 is more of the same, then his words are hollow and he's just as full of shit as the people he's criticizing. The actor who wrote the book on speaking his mind damn the consequences is Mickey Rourke. He lost his career due in large part his mouth and even after he won his career back, he's still laying it all on the line and telling it like he sees it. Go Mickey!

  • May 16, 2010, 10:29 p.m. CST

    He probably had little-to-no contact with Lucas,..

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    who avoids actors like the plague whenever possible. But Lucas, Spielberg, Koepp, and Ford are really equally responsible...

  • May 16, 2010, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Fa_Tass_DinoMolester.....

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    Do you have any idea how much those long necked (strangely erotic) aliens charge for cloning?

  • May 16, 2010, 10:30 p.m. CST

    TOD is slowwww

    by RPLocke

    And it's got the worst love interest for Indy since well, ever.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:30 p.m. CST

    CellarDweller please shorten your entry....

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    Maybe give us some bullet points or something. Thanks!

  • May 16, 2010, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Nobody there to challenge Spielberg and Lucas

    by DrPain

    and that's why it sucked and all future productions will be the same if someone is there brave enough to say "hey, um, that's pretty stupid" .

  • May 16, 2010, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Well if they're strangely erotic...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    just seduce the one voiced by Rena Owen. Then they'll do it for free. <p> Either that, or just borrow some of the Navis' toxic arrows and raid the place for cloning equipment.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:35 p.m. CST

    NO RESPECT

    by DickJones

    He's still a terrible actor and should be banned from ever appearing on screen again in any way.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:35 p.m. CST

    RPLocke, KOCS is slower...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    And I still don't get how Indy and Marion could run into each other again, not rekindle their romance at all, and then get married in the last scene. <p> I think David forgot to put something in...then again, who wants to see 80-year-old Indy and Marion flirting and making out? YIKES!

  • May 16, 2010, 10:37 p.m. CST

    if someone is there brave enough to say "hey, um, that's pretty

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    YES MEN are just as much to blame for the Starwars prequels as George Lucas is. The same can probably be said for the last Indy movie. Nobody wants to come right out and say "the Emperor's dick is hanging out".

  • May 16, 2010, 10:39 p.m. CST

    THE BEEF = NOT GUILTY FOR CRYSTAL SKULL

    by Mullah Omar

    In fact I thought he was virtually the only name actor in that film who really seemed to be trying. However, he was hamstrung by having a lame character - all Mutt Williams could do was ride a bike, lose at fencing, and comb his hair. That is a pale shadow when you stand him next to a character who fights with a bullwhip, punches out Nazis, and is an expert archaeologist. The Beef got the shaft. His character was underwritten and lame compared to Indiana Jones.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Halfbreedqueen....what are you going on about?

    by BumLove

    Do you even know?

  • May 16, 2010, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Dick Jones...

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    The old man thought he was pretty important, Dick.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:40 p.m. CST

    The day he makes a good movie is the day he gains my respect!

    by DrunkenBusboy

    Instead of anal raping me out of my $8 movie admission money!

  • May 16, 2010, 10:41 p.m. CST

    The last Indy sucked...

    by ObiBen

    ...because everybody on board assumed that painting by numbers would be enough. Well, it wasn't.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:41 p.m. CST

    Shia needs to hear this...

    by JustUsNerdsHere

    I can appreciate him realizing he's been in some bad movies, but, maybe he should stop being in bad movies. As bad as Transformers 2 was, I don't see him oping out of the number 3. So he comes to the same issue Sam Worthington has, is he a good actor in some bad films, or is he just a bad actor?

  • May 16, 2010, 10:43 p.m. CST

    8 dollars admission????

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I still can't believe how much fuckers in other states pay to see movies. Try paying 12 and 13 dollars a ticket.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:45 p.m. CST

    $8 movies in Maine! Even Cheaper at some places!

    by DrunkenBusboy

    Still losing $8 on shit like Transformers 2 & Indy 5 is still hard earned money lost not to mention the 2 hours out of ones life that they will never get back!

  • May 16, 2010, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Ooooops Indy 4 I meant!

    by DrunkenBusboy

  • May 16, 2010, 10:46 p.m. CST

    There is tons of cartoony stuff in Indy movies...

    by ObiBen

    ...Even in Raiders, where Indy can push a 2 tons pyramid brick out of it's hole by himself. But there was heart in the first three films. It was replaced by unnecessary CG stunts in the fourth installement, and not much more.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:46 p.m. CST

    It's not his fault Indy 4 sucked.

    by I_Sharted

    It's George Lucas' fault. Frank Darabont wrote a good screenplay and Lucas didn't like it because he's a fucking hack. He's the luckiest hack in the world mind you but a hack nonetheless. Star Wars (ANH) was good in spite of him not because of him. He's a great idea guy and broad story guy but he sucks at details and dialog. Fuck you George Lucas you ruined Indy 4 asshole and fuck you Stephen Spielberg for not having the balls to put him in his place.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Respect +1

    by majorax

    That

  • May 16, 2010, 10:47 p.m. CST

    Shia it's ok to say no to scripts once in awhile!

    by DrunkenBusboy

    Really it is! Honest! It really is ok to say no!

  • May 16, 2010, 10:47 p.m. CST

    And Darabont is God

    by majorax

    also that

  • May 16, 2010, 10:49 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper. Right on.

    by I_Sharted

    Gary Kurtz would have put a stop to that bullshit in the prequels. Instead Lucas hired Rick "Yes Man" McCallum to tell him how wonderful an idea Jar Jar and a 9 year old Anakin were.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:50 p.m. CST

    No the Old Man didn't think he was pretty important...

    by DickJones

    ...it's just take a look at the track record in this company. We've gambled in markets traditionally seen as nonprofit.......such as Cher,Dane Cook,Larry the Cable Guy. But what they needed was a real shit actor. One that could have its own talkback dedicated to try to defend him......AND.....have the weak firepower NOT enabling him to do so. Ladies and gentlemen....Shitty Labeef.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:50 p.m. CST

    The last three Indy's have sucked

    by RPLocke

    Last Crusade was pretty decent, but Raiders is still the best.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:51 p.m. CST

    RPLocke - No love for Temple of Doom?

    by I_Sharted

    Really? How can you not love Short Round?

  • May 16, 2010, 10:51 p.m. CST

    I've never had anything against Shia.

    by RedJester

    You can't fault an actor for bad writing and directing and that's exactly what Crystal Skull had. Looking forward to Wallstreet 2!

  • May 16, 2010, 10:52 p.m. CST

    DrunkenBusboy

    by Dave I

    Disturbia. BOOM! Good movie, right there. Not Citizen Cane, but not bad.<p><p>He wasn't bad in Constantine, despite its notable flaws. Holes was supposed to be good (I used to substitute teach, so I'm aware of the book, but never gotten around to the book nor the movie), and Eagle Eye looked interesting as well, if not terribly well received.<p><p>-Cheers

  • May 16, 2010, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Temple Of Doom is "slow"? WTF?

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    One of the common complaints about the film at the time of its release was how hyperbolically kinetic and breathless it was. Ironically, it now seems downright stately and Hitchcockian compared to the typical Michael Bay suckfest.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Shia it's also ok to say something is lame in a script......

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ...as opposed to just being a nice guy and going along with it. Harrison Ford is famous for telling GL back in the day that parts of the SW script and dialogue was retarded. Actors young and old need to learn that just because a director is "legendary" doesn't mean they aren't human and can't make mistakes or bad decisions like any of us. I forget to take the garbage out...George Lucas sticks CG monkeys into Indy 4...at the end of the day there's still a STINK in the air.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Always had a problem w/ Temple of Doom..

    by Sicuv Uyall

  • May 16, 2010, 10:55 p.m. CST

    until Crystal Skull came out.

    by Sicuv Uyall

    I gained a new appreciation of all the classic blockbusters from back then when this piece of shit came out.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:55 p.m. CST

    I agree Fat Rancor Keeper.

    by DickJones

    I never understood the yes men. Batman & Robin anyone? *shudder*

  • May 16, 2010, 10:57 p.m. CST

    Dick Jones...first of all...

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ...stop touching my hair. That's just weird. Second of all - You're out of your fucking mind.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:58 p.m. CST

    YA

    by Sedani

    That was pretty pimp of him.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Darabont's Draft Introduced the Nuke/Fridge.

    by little_lebowski

    So I call bullshit on anyone who thinks his draft would have been golden.

  • May 16, 2010, 10:59 p.m. CST

    So that's what it boils down to...SHIA is a "yes man"

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    *Andrew Dice Clay impersonation* Da - Da - Da - Dats what I think!!!

  • May 16, 2010, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Fat Rancor Keeper...

    by DickJones

    ...he's a sweet old man isn't he? But he's not gonna live forever...and I'm number 2 around here.

  • May 16, 2010, 11 p.m. CST

    Nasty In The Pasty

    by RPLocke

    Yeah, that's true, but I always thought TOD dragged in the middle the kindapped kids plot felt so wrong for an Indiana Jones movie. And Indy doesn't really FIND anything in this movie. It's not really an Indiana Jones movie.

  • May 16, 2010, 11 p.m. CST

    I Like Shia . . .

    by Dave I

    I think he's fine as an actor. I don't love all of his roles, but he was alright in Transformers (for what his role was, he was just fine, never saw 2 though), I did, as mentioned, like his portrayals in Constantine and Disturbia, was iffy on him in Indiana Jones (not a huge fan of the character or the what they did with him or the passing-the-torch business, but not entirely his fault), and some of his stuff I've not seen. But he comes across as likable in his roles and seems to do well by them to me. Some of his movie selection could be at fault, but arguably some have been a bit inspired with pretty nice performances.<p><p>As for the interview, that is awesome! Really, he's an actor that's getting paid a lot of money and could TOTALLY ride the gravy train, at least for a while. He's basically acknowledging complaints (other, sure, but also his, that's huge!), and pushing for more out of himself and people he works with, including STEPHEN SPIELBERG!!! He also comes across as open, honest, and respectful, as a peer to his notable co-workers and not just star struck or (even worse) a jilted whiner or spoiled brat. He sounds like he gives a crap about his work, like a craftsman. That is refreshing in any line of work.<p><p>I don't totally get the Shia hate, but that is pretty cool and I wish him the best. I liked him before the interview, but my respect for him grew quite a bit after reading that.<p><p>-Cheers

  • May 16, 2010, 11 p.m. CST

    WELL THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

    by gurugurugaijin

    wait...no it doesn't.

  • May 16, 2010, 11 p.m. CST

    RPLocke

    by RedJester

    "Last three Indy's have sucked, Last Crusade was pretty decent..." "I didn't like Temple Of Doom because it was slooooow." You sir are comedy gold. It's like you were lifted straight out of Jersey Shore and place in front of us for our viewing pleasure! Simply marvelous!!!

  • May 16, 2010, 11 p.m. CST

    oh wow shia didnt like indy 4

    by nobodylistenstodestro

    Now I'm a huge fan. Stfu. What has shia ever done to earn anybodys respect other than talk. Dudes best performance to date? Disturbia. I remember fearing for my life whenever I heard shia was in la and I had to drive somewhere. No more of the jewish version will smith for me

  • May 16, 2010, 11:01 p.m. CST

    ps

    by nobodylistenstodestro

    How much did his publicist pay you to write this up

  • May 16, 2010, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Thats another thing I hate about KOTCS.....

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ....it made me think about all the other stupid shit in the other Indy flicks. I honestly always watched them with a stupid grin not even thinking about how silly some of the stunts were. Then KOTCS came out with all kinds of goofiness and people started calling out the other flicks and soon enough my whole fucking world fell apart.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:02 p.m. CST

    These comments are somewhat appreciated

    by Mattyboy122

    But let's call a spade a spade. The chief blame for Indy 4 sucking lies with Spielberg. Yes, the story was crap, yes, Ford was uninspired, yes, Shia was impossible to take seriously. But when it all comes down to it, can you find another film in the Berg's filmography where he seems more bored than he does with Indy 4? The only one that comes to mind is The Lost World. So, while he may have his colossal fuck-ups from time to time (Hook), they are, for the most part, filled with his infectious enthusiasm at least. But Indy 4 and The Lost World are just boring, bored films.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:04 p.m. CST

    I appreciate the candor BUT...

    by thebearovingian

    he still pulled out the "the guy I worked with is a genius" line. Granted, he's talking about Spielberg but c'mon, I'm so tired of hearing that. You know some actor is at this moment somewhere in the world giving an interview and swearing on their mother's grave that "Dieter Laser is just this unimaginable genius! Just so über talented unlike anyone else I've ever met!" Right, everybody's amazingly creative and ridiculously smart blah blah blah. Hey, why don't you add a few more self-congratulatory awards shows.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Dick Jones.....

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    You better pray that that unholy monster of yours doesn't screw up. (I know that's your line but I just wanted to say it)

  • May 16, 2010, 11:06 p.m. CST

    Fat Rancor Keeper...

    by DickJones

    ...I am what you call a repeat offender! I repeat I will...offend again.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:07 p.m. CST

    LaBeouf wasn't the problem

    by Dasinfogod

    He was unremarkable in the flick, but hardly the greatest liability.<p>Cate Blanchett and her meandering Natasha Fatale imitation was far more grating, and John Hurt came across as less eccentric and more embarrassed than anything else. I'm still not really sure what function Ray Winstone served to the narrative, 'cept maybe to die, and put none of the spark or charm of John Rhys Davies or Denholm Elliott to the role of "sidekick". Hell, LaBeouf at least seemed to be making an effort...<p>This is a two year old gripe, but c'mon folks, the script was insanely weak, and too much of the picture was reliant on post-production CGI (the strength of the series is the stunt work and location shooting, not in synthetic jungles and video game figure leaping about). If LucasLand Inc. makes a fifth outing, they need to sit down and watch a bunch of Republic Studios serials again - Speilberg KNOWS better. Somebody's gotta take Lucas' cyber-crayons away from him...<p>Folks are willing to suspend disbelief, but the filmmakers have to meet them at least halfway.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:07 p.m. CST

    Oh, and the optical glow cinematography...

    by ObiBen

    ...from Kaminski worked great for Private Ryan and all the sci-fi stuff (and his b&w work was gorgeous on Schindler's list) but just seemed out of place in an Indy movie. See, the other movies worked because the audience felt it was travelling along around the world with the hero. We felt we were there. The last movie was like looking through the Wizard of Oz crystal ball.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:07 p.m. CST

    "But Indy 4 and The Lost World are just boring, bored films"

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ...maybe Spielberg is just bad with sequels. I don't know - How involved was he really with LW? If that's the case I'm glad we never really saw an ET sequel.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:08 p.m. CST

    DickJones = ObiBen = Hater Douchebags

    by Sicuv Uyall

    Before: Spielberg wants me to be in his next blockbuster film. Not only that, but the film is new Indiana Jones movie! And I get to actually play Indy's son!! Oh, and not only do I get to act with Harrison Ford, but Cate Blanchett and Marion from the first movie, and the fat dude from the Departed are in it.. and John Hurt too!! And Lucas is producing.. well, at least he's not directing it right? Being a young up and coming actor, how the fuck can I say no?? Even those Lucas loving geeks who hate my youth and the fact that Transformers stole some thunder from Star Wars may start to like me!! After: Jesus, that movie sucked. What could we do? Now I know how Samuel Jackson and Natalie Portman felt. Hope they don't blame me.

  • but darabont stole dialogue word for word from a new hope (having indy at a control intercom saying, everythings, fine, we're all fine now, how are you) before destroying it and saying boring conversation anyways, Darabont is just not that great at doing things, shawshank is the only decent thing he's done, not sure why fanboys see him as the next coppola

  • May 16, 2010, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Sicuv Uyall

    by DickJones

    I don't care who does it, but if someone offers me a pile of shit on a plate, I'm not gonna eat it. That's my comparison.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:13 p.m. CST

    RPLocke

    by RedJester

    I'd love to see you try to get through an entire Kuprick, Malick, Bertolli, or Van Sant movie. Your ADD would probably kick in before the second act.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Darabont also gave us the Mist & Green Mile

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    he's the MAN

  • May 16, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST

    I think hes being a bit overly harsh

    by pax256

    And I think hes doing it to appeal to the criticism of the geek community, legitimately mind you, and which were partially warranted for Crystal Skulls. But the movie was not *that* bad. It had some great scenes and great performances... If only for giving us a bit more of Karen Allen's Marian, who dialed in a great showing, it was well worth it. The only thing that really bothered me was the resolution of the story. Not the requisit gags like the monkey swinging that were present in the other films... Lets be truthful here. Only Raiders was great. All the sequels had some issues and you either live with it or hate it. I enjoy the sequels for what they are... And they are all shadows of the first film. Was Crystal Skulls the worst of the sequels? Im still debating that myself with Last Crusade...

  • May 16, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST

    RedJester

    by RPLocke

    Hey I like all kinds of movies. Isn't that why we are here? I'm not discussing movie length, I'm discussing plot. TOD is very slow compared to the other Indy films which are breakneck.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:16 p.m. CST

    Give me a break.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I'll reserve my "respect" for elders, teachers and public servants. If I feel like I've got a lot of "respect" just lying around that's going to go to waste if I don't use it up, I'll hand it out to people on the street who give me the correctly answer, "I dunno," to the question, "Who is Shia LaBeouf?"

  • May 16, 2010, 11:16 p.m. CST

    Dasinfogod-Suspension of disbelief

    by ObiBen

    Not even sure if it's a question of meeting midway. Look at the whole "raft as a parachute" scene from Temple of Doom. I think it's more to do with intent and honesty. For my part, even though it is much derised, I thought the fridge scene (and it's preambule) was the best part of the last movie, because, at least, it was trying to convey something (and the mushroom effect was one of the nicer effects, ie a good use of CG)

  • May 16, 2010, 11:18 p.m. CST

    I really wouldnt say Raiders and Last Crusade are "breakneck"

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ...especially not when it comes to pacing. They are slow. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing. TOD seems way more fast paced to me. From the opening moments it's pretty much non-stop action.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Fat Rancor Keeper

    by Mattyboy122

    I'm not sure if that's the case. I mean, say what you will about Temple of Doom, but I think it's plain to see that Spielberg was having a lot of fun making that movie. And say what you will about Last Crusade, but it did seem like Spielberg was making a film with ideas he cared about (even if he didn't seem to care much about the craft of the film). But yes, with The Lost World and Indy 4, you can tell he was bored with the craft and not the least bit interested in the ideas.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:21 p.m. CST

    I didn't mind the frigde bit.

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    Was it goofy? Hell yes. But it was worth it for the nuke effect and it fit great for the era that were conveying. The CG monkeys though didn't fit in any way what so ever.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Is there still going to be a Indy 5?

    by Tom_Bombadil

    Just curious...

  • May 16, 2010, 11:24 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper

    by RPLocke

    TOD has the break neck opening but once they jump out of the plane and get to the villiage, the movie really slows down. It doesn't pick up speed until Indy goes to free the kids.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:27 p.m. CST

    previous respect was -9k now its -8.9k

    by FrodoFraggins

    good luck reaching non-negative!

  • May 16, 2010, 11:27 p.m. CST

    RPLocke - maybe so....

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ...but wouldn't you say there's just as much if not more downtime during Raiders? For me the slower moments of TOD seemed relatively short in comparison to Raiders and LC.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:27 p.m. CST

    If he took a few shots at Bay for Trans 2.....

    by jaysin420

    then I would have respected him but I guess he has another sequel to make. Crystal Skull was terrible but this clown shouldn't be talking shit about Spielberg, I don't care if they're fucking or not.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:29 p.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper

    by RPLocke

    I think Last Crusade has the most breakneck pace of the Indy films because you go from one chase to another. Raiders does a fantastic job of building you up to action. I didn't think TOD had that balance.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Best Indy Compilation

    by Lao_Che_Air_Freight

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIG4u5z7_54

  • May 16, 2010, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Shia defended Indy 4 Two years ago...

    by BigTuna

    Now he's changed his tune and is crapping on it.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Sicuv Uyall

    by ObiBen

    You might want to rephrase that. Or maybe I should brush up my English. Either way, I fail to see the connection between me being a hater (which I am not, I am about the biggest Spielberg fan on earth since 1977), the body of your post and what I might have said previously.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:31 p.m. CST

    actually...I'm just thinking...

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ...prior to Indy saving the kids I remember a good amount of action like Indy and shortround almost being crushed to death, and the whole bit with Indy being evil and the action sequence with Willie almost being dropped into lava.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:32 p.m. CST

    I've never got to hate for him either

    by The_Crimson_King

    I've always liked him as a matter of fact, he's only 3 years older than me to boot

  • May 16, 2010, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Harry Loved Indy 4...

    by BigTuna

    He's fucking insane.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:34 p.m. CST

    The scene with Shia swinging in the jungle with monkeys...

    by BigTuna

    was THE most dissapointing scene i've ever witnessed in a film. WTF were they thinking? I'm shocked that scene would even make it into the script, much less the final cut of the film.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Lucas was the main problem with Indy IV

    by SifoDyasJr.

    I love George, but most of the creative decisions were his. Stuff would happen in that movie that didn't make sense even in the rules of Indiana Jones world. His creative vision has been twisted by his own success, and I wish he would actually make those 'small personal films' he keeps saying he's going to make. I want to see that George again.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:37 p.m. CST

    THE most dissapointing scene i've ever witnessed in a film

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    yea man - it really did belong on the cutting room floor. Or maybe just an extra on the dvd/blu so we could all laugh and say "damn imagine how lame that would have been if they actually put it in the movie!

  • May 16, 2010, 11:40 p.m. CST

    Unnecessary CG?

    by enderandrew

    Watch the featurettes on the Blu-Ray. Spielberg went primarily with practical effects, and did a lot of location filming. The ants were CG, but it wasn't a CG-heavy movie.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:40 p.m. CST

    I don't think there is a "main" problem with Indy 4.....

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ......we will never agree on a "main problem". Some will blame Spielberg, some will blame Shia, some will blame GL, some will blame CG gofers and monkeys, some will blame Dudley from Different Strokes. It's best to just say that clearly a bunch of things went wrong and everyone involved should share the blame in some respect.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Shia is actually really good in the Transformers films

    by BigTuna

    As bad as they are, he gives the best performance in it i've sen in a Bay film. He was mis-cast as Mutt. He just doesn't fit the role of a tough, 50's greaser. But he did fit the role of Sam Witwicky well in the TF franchise. He's a good young ator.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:46 p.m. CST

    Lucas did not write Indy 4

    by RPLocke

    David Koepp wrote the screenplay from a story by Lucas and Spielberg.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:47 p.m. CST

    BigTuna

    by RPLocke

    Harry liked Kick Ass too, and that movie bombed harder than your mom.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:48 p.m. CST

    If they really do Indy 5......

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ....which I'm betting they will.....I wonder what the hell story they can go with from here???

  • May 16, 2010, 11:49 p.m. CST

    I'm 100% positive that Lucas is the sole blame.

    by Ganymede3001

    He's listed as one of the writers. Which means he wrote about 90% of it, you can tell by how horrendous the story was. Steven has never made a film that bad, ever.

  • May 16, 2010, 11:52 p.m. CST

    It's too bad they didn't do Indy 4 earlier.

    by BigTuna

    Apparently Ford started bugging Spielberg about Indy 4 during the 94' Oscars when Shindler's List won him best director. They waited years and years for the"Right Script" we are told. They waited for that piece of shiot script? Did they just give up and accept anything? What was the point in waiting until Ford was a geriactric?

  • May 16, 2010, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Ganymede3001 even if it's GL's fault for his writing...

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ....what does that say about everyone else who went along with it? Did not one of the other players involved (Ford, Shia, Spielberg) have the balls or brains to stand up and say "CG MONKEYS SUCK!!!"

  • May 16, 2010, 11:57 p.m. CST

    BigTuna even if they'd done Indy 4 in the 90's...

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ...the only difference would have been that Ford would have looked younger and Shia would have been some young 90's actor, (maybe screetch?) but the script would still have been just as bad if it was the same thing.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:02 a.m. CST

    Raiders had a talking monkey

    by BEYONDTHUNDERDOME2GIRLS1CUPBILLCOSBY

    I like Crystal Skull, it isn't that bad, has a lot of flaws but isn't unwatchable

  • May 17, 2010, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Lucas actually didn't write it.

    by little_lebowski

    He gets a story credit for coming up with the premise, but it was written by a about a dozen different screenwriters in about as many years, before Koepp finally came in to cobble together the closest thing they could get to a filmable script.<br><br> At which point, I think Lucas, Ford, and Spielberg decided that if they don't get that film over with, the prospects of making anything at all would only get worse.<br><br> That said, IF they were to do another one, I'd hope for it sooner than later in hopes to avoid the same kind of script-by-committee.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:04 a.m. CST

    BEYONDTHUNDERDOME2GIRLS1CUPBILLC OSBY

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    wow @ that name

  • May 17, 2010, 12:05 a.m. CST

    Raiders Monkey gave the Hitler salute

    by RPLocke

    and people give that a free pass?

  • May 17, 2010, 12:05 a.m. CST

    Monkey gave the Hitler salute

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    wait - WHAT??

  • May 17, 2010, 12:10 a.m. CST

    I lost respect for Shia with this. Comes off as a whiny bitch

    by Tall_Boy66

    Seriously, I have no idea how Quint could be so retarded to think, "DUH! HE SAY INDY SUCK THEREFORE HE GET PROPS FROM ME! DUHHHHHHHHH!!!" When you actually read it, he just comes off as pissing and moaning for pissing and moaning stakes. Naturally, it sounds like angry fanboy moaning so Quint had to beat off to it and post it, when it has, like, no news relevancy whatsoever. Seriously, what in God's name goes through somebody's head who writes: "Shia LaBeouf just gained a ton of your respect, guaranteed." BULLSHIT. Fucking laughable to even suggest that. Dumbfuck Quint. Let's see if Merrick can say something even stupider this week.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Shia LaBeouf just gained a ton of your respect, guaranteed.

    by Tall_Boy66

  • May 17, 2010, 12:13 a.m. CST

    I think Speilberg stopped diddling him and he's just sore

    by Anything But Tangerines

    or less sore, depending on how you look at it

  • May 17, 2010, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Seriously, read that out loud, it sounds gawdawful

    by Tall_Boy66

    But it's nice to have Quint dictate to me what I should think. I guess I could happily bleat along like the rest of the sheep. Nah.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:14 a.m. CST

    I already respected him as an actor

    by Maniaq

    the rest I don't really care about <p> I remember watching Transformers, expecting it to such (which of course it did) and expecting to hate him in it for being about as believable an actor as, say, Dicaprio (who I've never bought in anything except for that diamond movie) - but the thing is he actually sold it to me and I walked away convinced the kid could act... <p> confirmed with the much overhyped Eagle Eye and pretty much over and over again <p> never had a single problem with his acting chops - and, reading the article, I sort of agree with his basic premise that they were trying to sell him to us as some kind of action hero and he's never been that and you can sort of see him struggling a little with that - trying to bring the character back down to Earth and less... camp <p> I have to say however, if we're all being honest and forthright and so on, I didn't hear George Lucas mentioned even once...

  • May 17, 2010, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Why apologize for something that wasn't his fault?

    by Shermdawg

  • May 17, 2010, 12:18 a.m. CST

    So Shia Lebouf just called..

    by EddieMurphysLaugh

    I told him too little too late and hung the fucking phone up.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:19 a.m. CST

    He can't act!

    by AnnoyYou

    That is the bottom line: the guy looks 12, and he acts as if he is a perpetual adolescent. Unlike DiCaprio, who is also a perpetual adolescent BUT a very good actor, I don't see him overcoming this handicap (rather like Tobey Maguire). Yeah, it's easy to say all this stuff in hindsight and make oneself sound brave and humble, but it also sounds like damage control for what will undoubtedly be another crappy performance in a bad movie.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:21 a.m. CST

    INDY IV WAS OK. BRING ON INDY V

    by Gorgomel

  • May 17, 2010, 12:22 a.m. CST

    To be fair..Ford hasnt liked anything hes been in since 89

    by EddieMurphysLaugh

  • May 17, 2010, 12:26 a.m. CST

    fat_rancor_keeper

    by RPLocke

    Remember when the monkey gives the Hitler Salute to the guy and the guy actually salutes the monkey? You don't remember that?

  • May 17, 2010, 12:29 a.m. CST

    lol..Yeah but Ill take a real monkey giving a nazi salute

    by EddieMurphysLaugh

    over 85 cgi monkeys "showing Mutt Williams" the way.. You have to have 2 brain cells left, both fighting to see who wins to dare even say "well raiders of the lost ark did this" and thats why I liked Indy 4 and the kingdom of the crappy skulls. You're a moron Locke

  • May 17, 2010, 12:33 a.m. CST

    loserguy3000

    by Anything But Tangerines

    ...fascinating

  • May 17, 2010, 12:34 a.m. CST

    by Anything But Tangerines

    I bet loserguy3000 makes great balloon animals, he can twist anything anyway he wants

  • May 17, 2010, 12:36 a.m. CST

    If people say they hate these movies why

    by RPLocke

    the eff do they make so much money? I don't get that at all.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:37 a.m. CST

    the monkey speaks too

    by BEYONDTHUNDERDOME2GIRLS1CUPBILLCOSBY

    and in temple of doom they eat the monkeys brain

  • May 17, 2010, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Locke..its called opening weekend and BAD WORD OF MOUTH

    by EddieMurphysLaugh

    Yeah because no one wanted to see the first indiana jones movie in 20 years..or the first 3 star wars movies in 20 years....but it's safe to say that all 4 of those movies pretty much fucking sucked..Serioulsy man..sit down before you fall down.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:39 a.m. CST

    "The movie could have been updated."

    by Acquanetta

    To me, this has always been the fundamental culprit behind so many of the film's complaints. Spielberg tried to make a film from 30 years ago, while modern audiences simply have much different tastes. (I can't see The Dark Knight being released in 1984 or Rocky 4 being released in 2008.) The previous Indy sequels all had their share of flaws, yet they were still products of their time. So even though people complain about the weak villains in Temple of Doom and the campy humor of Last Crusade, those qualities didn't seem so out of place during the 80s. Maybe that's why I never actually had that many problems with Indy 4. It felt like something I would've seen back in the 80s- far more than a blockbuster movie from 2008. It was just that type of over-the-top escapism. I can understand people not liking the film, but at some point, everyone needs to move on. It's one thing to criticize a film. It's another to seemingly be incapable of letting go. I think Shia's just tired of being constantly criticized for his appearance in the film and is trying to do whatever he can to make peace with angry fanboys.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Also..the Japanese. I blame the Japanese

    by EddieMurphysLaugh

    phuck you dolpin!

  • May 17, 2010, 12:43 a.m. CST

    EddieMurphysLaugh

    by RPLocke

    No. It's because people outside of movie sites don't give a shit about CG monkeys. They just want to see a good movie.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:46 a.m. CST

    Locke you just called KOTCS a good movie

    by EddieMurphysLaugh

    Your argument is invalid.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:46 a.m. CST

    Re: If people say they hate these movies why

    by Acquanetta

    Because we've become such a movie obsessed culture. Fanboys can bitch about a film for months, yet still go see it just so they can continue to bitch about it online.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Ford didn't even like Blade Runner

    by DigitalDong

    I'm surprised people who do this still find work, specially since Shia looks like he's 12. The older he gets, the less roles he'll receive. He's not leading man material and he should be lucky with the success he's already had.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Acquanetta: My thoughts exactly.

    by Playkins

    Well put. My personal take is that films haven't changed as much as audiences have. The successful films are the ones of whose makers realize this.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:49 a.m. CST

    The blame goes to one person..

    by disfigurehead

    Lucas

  • May 17, 2010, 12:51 a.m. CST

    LaBeouf wasn't the problem

    by BenBraddock

    Problems were legion, but I actually thought he was OK. Funny, I was just thinking how it might be time to give the movie another shot now that I have a Blu-ray player... but nah... life's too short. It WAS shit! Anyway, well said Shia - enjoy unemployment ;-)

  • May 17, 2010, 12:52 a.m. CST

    Totally wrong about fanboys AcQuanetta

    by EddieMurphysLaugh

    There was genuine exceitment by the fan base to see Indy 4..no one bitched about it..everyone was hyped to see it, and pretty much South Park got it right...They completely raped It. This wasnt people complaining over a teen heartthrob being cast as "The Joker"...Fanboys had NO REASON to bitch about Indiana Jones leading up to number 4...you are completely off the mark on that one my friend.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:55 a.m. CST

    EddieMurphysLaugh

    by RPLocke

    Dude, why are you so uptight about an Indiana Jones movie? Relax dude.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Re: Totally wrong about fanboys AcQuanetta

    by Acquanetta

    Eddie, I'm not talking about the hype leading up to Indy 4- although that in itself was a case of fanboys setting impossibly high expectations. I'm talking about the Shia hate that became rampant after fanboys were disappointed by the film.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Locke

    by EddieMurphysLaugh

    Lol..Im not uptight..You're just making a completely shitty irratnional argument..Unless you Have Batman & Robin in your DVD collection and listen to Britney Spears (2 things that also made a shit ton of money and people baught) than really...leave this one to the grown ups dude. Just because something makes a ton of money doesn't mean its good...And by you defending KOTCS you know you allow George Lucas to keep killing kittens..you know that right..the fucker actually kills kittens everytime someone defends that movie. Kittens Locke

  • May 17, 2010, 1 a.m. CST

    Got it Acquantetta.

    by EddieMurphysLaugh

  • A rare breed methinks. If you think about it, he looks like a geek. A geek that have overcomed obstacles and moved his way up. More power to him.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:02 a.m. CST

    EddieMurphysLaugh

    by RPLocke

    Lol, the only reason I have Batman and Robin in my DVD collection is because it came in the box set, and the box set was cheap. :(

  • May 17, 2010, 1:04 a.m. CST

    I see Indy IV exactly the same as

    by Joely_Boy

    Die Another Day. Both have timeless characters incorporating their personas to a tee. The first hour is top notch. Then it all goes downhill from there. Shame.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:10 a.m. CST

    No hate for the guy.

    by JaimeFoxx

    He's just not that good of an actor. So what if he never called in a role? The fact of the matter is that Hollywood's just been pushing him too much and the guy's not leading man material. <br> <br> Quint, how has the bar been set so low that "not calling in a performace" constitutes someone even being good or mentionable? I mean think about it... that's just sad, and it's a reflection of the sad state the film is in nowadays... But as a reviewer don't act like it's some sort of excuse or rationalization. <br> <br> And what's up with Shia being all emo about Wall Street 2 already? That can't possibly be a good sign. <br> <br> It's of my opinion that Shia and Megan Fox are excellent examples of how acting has jack shit to do with anything nowadays. And again Quint as a reviewer you should have some goddamn respect for the art of film and not encourage shit like this.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:11 a.m. CST

    Playkins

    by Acquanetta

    Exactly. It doesn't excuse every flaw- the film certainly isn't perfect- but there's no deyning that the previous sequels had similar problems. There's just no way either Temple or Crusade would've been as beloved by fans if they had been released in 2008. The Thuggee plot is as goofy as the Russian plan for the skull, while Sallah in Crusade is just as wasted as Marion in Skull. As Lucas acknowledged going in, they were making Indy IV in a radically different age. Try to imagine Batman Forever, Moonraker, or Rambo 2 being released in 2008. Those films were huge blockbusters back in the day, but they would've been torn to shreds by modern audiences. When it came time to create a new sequel, the filmmakers had to make some very drastic changes for modern audiences. If anything, the real issue fanboys should have with Lucas is that he realized all of this going in, yet still neglected to make any adjustments.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:14 a.m. CST

    BUMMMMMBLEBEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    -------- whatever, <p> Shitta Lapooof is still an ass. Besides Indy 4 wasn't terrible, it fits in nicely behind Indy 2 which was just as cartoonish. A villain that can pull your beating hearts out of your chest? Escaping from a crashing plane with an inflatable raft? Chopping an extension bridge in half then climb it like a ladder while bodies fly pass? COAL MINE THAT DOUBLES FOR A ROLLERCOASTER FROM HELL? It was a matter of time before aliens and Monkeys were introduced. After Raiders they all were ridiculous. But wait, didn't Indy get chased by a 50 ft tall bowling ball?

  • May 17, 2010, 1:15 a.m. CST

    "No no no no nononono!!!!"

    by V'Shael

    He's a repetitive fucking tool. He'd get my respect by biting a bullet.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:20 a.m. CST

    EddieMurphysLaugh is correct

    by ominus

    everyone was excited about a new indy film.the fact that it was a major blockbuster despite its shity-ness proves that.But as usual Lucas raped the fans for the 2nd time,after his abominable prequel trilogy.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:22 a.m. CST

    In this era of filmmaking you have two options....

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Shitta Lapoof or Common.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:24 a.m. CST

    He should play the Bit in Tron Legacy

    by ominus

  • May 17, 2010, 1:26 a.m. CST

    @JaimeFoxx

    by Rocco Curioso

    Apparently "Wall Street 2" just got a tepid reception at Cannes. Maybe he's doing a bit of preemptive damage control.<P>If Shia has any acting chops at all, he needs to prove it once and for all. I suggest he tackle the dual role of Hennifer Lopez/Mitch Connor in "Taco-Flavored Kisses: The Movie". Only then will he be granted absolution from the movie geek masses.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:28 a.m. CST

    he's honest

    by yabory

    you gotta respect him for that. i'm glad he calls out spielberg. he shoulda known better. he's way too good and too smart to have let indy IV film the way it did.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:28 a.m. CST

    "Shia it's ok to say no to scripts once in awhile!"

    by MattmanReturns

    Heheh, doubt any young actor in his right mind would say no to a role in an Indiana Jones movie. Although maybe POST Indy 4 they would...

  • May 17, 2010, 1:28 a.m. CST

    mr tibbs

    by Anything But Tangerines

    Don't forget Zac Effron

  • May 17, 2010, 1:33 a.m. CST

    Have Speilberg/Lucas ever commented on reaction to Indy 4?

    by BenBraddock

    'Cos I'd love to hear their thoughts.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:34 a.m. CST

    I cannot believe it--

    by blunted666

    So many people in defense of this kid. I feel like I should go watch some of the movies people are mentioning fondly that I haven't seen. I've seen the disliked blockbusters he's done, and while I'd have to say he didn't do a poor acting job, he just has this kind of boy-next-door-if-you-lived-in-a-nice-cul-de-sac thing that I really don't want from anybody in any movie. I am trying to escape the mediocrity of reality here...

  • May 17, 2010, 1:37 a.m. CST

    yeah WS2 got a negative reception at Cannes

    by ominus

    its damage control fellas,he has already associated himself with 3 classics properties which have been ruined.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:38 a.m. CST

    BenBraddock

    by RPLocke

    You mean commenting on the overreaction of a few people that post on the net? I doubt it.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:44 a.m. CST

    RPLocke

    by BenBraddock

    Do you really mean "..the overreaction of a few people" or the reaction of the majority of people who saw the movie?

  • May 17, 2010, 1:45 a.m. CST

    Lets hold the phone w/ the brave bullshit Q.

    by GQtaste

    All the key players got paid a fortune for Indy 4 and I mean a fortune! And like somebody else said above, I'd bet they are getting closer to churning out the next one. <p> Even Quint mentioned how today everything is bound by contracts and nobody takes chances by spouting off unless you're Mickey Rourke or Sean Penn, but that has to do w/ other stuff. Also, he's still making another shitfest w/ Bay.. If you want to give anybody shit Shia, give it to the real source.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:46 a.m. CST

    "the overreatcion of a few people on the net"

    by EddieMurphysLaugh

    Locke..go to bed.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:47 a.m. CST

    @ Rocco

    by JaimeFoxx

    Ah, okay. You're most likely right. My main beef is that I fail to see what separates Shia from one of the actors on The Young and The Restless. <br> <br> And it really is a huge peeve of mine to see a reviewer defend someone so mediocre... it's downright absurd. <br> <br> I also agree entirely that this guy need to prove he has worth and fast. <br> <br> TACO FLAVORED KISSES 3(D) : THE REFLAVORING!

  • May 17, 2010, 1:50 a.m. CST

    A no "shit-talking" clause in contracts...

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    ...should also include a 'no cringe-inducing monkey-swinging scene' clause.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:53 a.m. CST

    Lucas is to blame for Indy 4 I read the original script from Fra

    by Professor_Bedlam

    The script by Darabont was perfect everything you ever wanted in an Indiana Jones movie. I still have the green back in my drawer. I wanted to see it made so bad. But Lucas said no! Spielberg and Ford had no problems with it! It was Lucas! The man has lost his edge!

  • May 17, 2010, 1:55 a.m. CST

    A "No Starring in Transformers 3" Clause

    by EddieMurphysLaugh

    ..Serioulsy would have improved Shia's point of view on all of this.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:57 a.m. CST

    EddieMurphysLaugh

    by RPLocke

    When TOD came out in theaters critics and Indy fans TRASHED the movie because it took everything good about Raiders and shit on it. People have been dissing Indy movies long before you ever came around buddy.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:59 a.m. CST

    Shia doesn't need to be in Indy 5

    by ShabbyBlue

    I respect the actor, and I didn't mind his character too much in Indy 4... but okay, we've done Indy's son. Let's focus on Indy himself now, okay? Give Indy a nice solo adventures with no sidekicks in the next movie. That would be nice.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:01 a.m. CST

    Didn't Darabont's script have the fridge?

    by MattmanReturns

  • May 17, 2010, 2:02 a.m. CST

    Ford didn't lose his edge in the 90s...

    by ShabbyBlue

    For those who think he hasn't had a good movie since 1989.... I seem to recall The Fugitive being a damn good movie. He definitely wasn't phoning that one in. And I liked Air Force One too. I think that was probably his last great movie, but that one came out in 1997. After that he pretty much phoned in every performance after that and has been a shadow of the once great actor we loved.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Darabont's script used most of Lucas' plot points

    by ShabbyBlue

    Yes, Lucas is definitely the main person to blame for Indy 4, and Darabont's script proves it. For years we heard all this great praise about Darabont's script, but when it finally leaked to the net we discovered that it was similar to the final movie in many ways. That's because Lucas imposed the same story points on Darabont that he gave every other script writer. He basically said "Do this, do this, and do this... then fill it in with your own dialogue and exposition". That's why Darabont's script also has the nuked fridge, and many other familiar plot points that ended up in the final movie.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:16 a.m. CST

    Ford was never a great actor

    by ominus

    he was a celebrity actor perfect for the specific action hero archetype that characters like Indy and Solo were representative of. <p>Thats why he was also very good in Fugitive and AF1 because he basically was playing the tough but everyday man hero that he was born to do. <p>Ford is a celebrity superstar actor like Tom Cruise or Arnold.They can sell only the roles that they are very good at.He is not a real actor like Brando or DeNiro who can play anything.I am not saying that he is not talented,its just that he is limited to specific roles.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:19 a.m. CST

    btw Harry's animated gif

    by ominus

    from what movie is it?

  • May 17, 2010, 2:21 a.m. CST

    Oscar Nominated Carey Mulligan

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    could have her pick of men. If she's willing to let Shia give her the LeBeouf Injection, then he's either a really nice funny charming guy offscreen or he's hung like a horse.<br /><br />Either way KOTCS is George Lucas' fault. Completely. Spielberg didn't want to do Aliens. Ford didn't want to do Aliens. Lucas put his foot down and said "It's This or Nothing." And then it took them a dozen screenwriters for it to even remotely work. It was Lucas' shitty ideas. From the Jump Off. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. And Shia is taking some blame because he and Spielberg and Ford thought they could "sell" Lucas' shitty ideas. None of them were happy with that script.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:22 a.m. CST

    RPLocke: according to your theory

    by Flip63Hole

    the Twilight movies are masterpieces? Indy IV WAS THAT bad. It's unwatchable...

  • May 17, 2010, 2:22 a.m. CST

    Ominus

    by RPLocke

    Ford was never a great actor? Uh, yeah, sure pal. He's only known as two great film icons. And people call me a dumbass?

  • May 17, 2010, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Ford IS a good actor

    by ShabbyBlue

    He played 2 very different roles from his "action hero archetype" in The Mosquito Coast and Regarding Henry, both of wich are his best work outside of the usual action films in my opinion.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:27 a.m. CST

    She's not Carey Mulligan, she's 'Sally Sparrow'.

    by BiggusDickus

    That is all.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:27 a.m. CST

    RPLocke

    by ominus

    yeah he is not a great actor.Deniro and Brando are great actors.unless you believe that Ford would have been great as Corleone in the Godfather movies.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:28 a.m. CST

    give us news, give us reviews

    by mrbong

    but don't presume to tell us who we should have a single calorie of respect for, never mind a ton. with the exception of Scotsman75, we are not simpletons, we can make up our own minds as to who we do and do not respect. good for you that you now like the guy and an interesting interview, but don't you dare lecture us as to our outlooks and perception.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:28 a.m. CST

    DeNiro? The guy that's doing a fucking movie with

    by RPLocke

    Lindsey fucking Lohan? Yeah, great actor.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:29 a.m. CST

    Good for him, he still sucks shit

    by TheWaqman

    but he's not as bad as Chris Pine or any of the other morons coming out of the woodwork. I think Shia might just be able to prove himself in Wall Street 2. Also Indy 4 was absolute shit.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:30 a.m. CST

    RPLocke

    by EddieMurphysLaugh

    You own Batman & Robin. Your argument is invalid.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:33 a.m. CST

    EddieMurphysLaugh

    by RPLocke

    Who the fuck cares? 10 bucks says you own Matrix ReLoaded or Ultraviolet.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:35 a.m. CST

    Locke owes me 10 bucks

    by EddieMurphysLaugh

  • May 17, 2010, 2:35 a.m. CST

    ShabbyBlue yeah i agree

    by ominus

    he was great in those two films and that was mistake.if he tried to to pursuit a versatile career with more demanding roles,who knows maybe he would have turned into one of the greats actors.but as it is now,he is only a good actor with 2 iconic roles,and not a great actor with 2 iconic performances.see the difference? <p>thats why i like what Dicaprio tries to do know,he is trying to change his career into something more than just the good looking love interest who breaks the hearts of girls.he understands that he can not be forever young to do this,so he tries his best now to avoid in the future what Ford has turned into: a pathetic 60y old man who returned to his iconic role because its the only way to fill the theaters nowadays and pay his bills.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:37 a.m. CST

    He sounds like a good guy...

    by BurnHollywood

    The fact that he's at a really good place in his career and yet he's willing to exercise humility and talk about his responsibilities as an actor bodes well, I think.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:38 a.m. CST

    Can we talk about Matt Damon?

    by RPLocke

    Seriously, Matt Damon?

  • May 17, 2010, 2:38 a.m. CST

    RPLocke no Deniro

    by ominus

    the guy with the nickname: Chameleon <p>do you know why they call him like that? check his filmography in imdb to find out you ignorant nerd.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:43 a.m. CST

    DeNiro is like Ford... in that he lost it in the 90s

    by ShabbyBlue

    I can't recall a single role Deniro has done since the mid 90s that was memorable and really showed his talent. The last ones I liked were Casino and Heat, both of which were in the mid 1990s. After that he started doing stupid comedies and has never been the same. His decline as a great actor in the last 15 or so years is just as sad as Ford's.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:46 a.m. CST

    Tom Cruise and Arnold in the same category?

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    naw son. not even. And ya I'm looking in Lucas's direction wondering what the fuck went wrong with this movie. Shia is Shia, I thought he was decent in the movie. But there's nothing wrong with being humble and wanting to work harder.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:47 a.m. CST

    Wait, I thought this was a "guarantee"

    by Viewer 3

    I want my money back.<p><p>Honestly this is similar to all the times that writers/directors of sequels say "We went back and saw what we did wrong with the first film, and really listened to the fans, and we can PROMISE that it will be better this time".<p><p>...And we all know how THAT ends up.<p><p>Actually I guess it's not a BAD thing that these two are coming forward and admitting the things that they signed onto, got paid for, and endlessly promoted were crap. Personally I think the whole "no-shit-talk" clause thing is the epitome of everything wrong with Hollywood, even though it's always been standard procedure.<p><p>"We're gonna hire you on and pay you millions of dollars, but in return you have to go on every late night and entertainment show and try to fool everyone into thinking that it's really good. That's right, at least 2 dozen interviews about the movie, all positive. And you can't say ANYTHING bad about it, even though this is clearly the worst movie we've ever put out."<p><p>I guess that's what millions of dollars buys these days.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:47 a.m. CST

    DeNiro? He was okay in The Untouchables

    by RPLocke

    Brando peaked with Superman.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:47 a.m. CST

    It would have meant more...

    by tensticks

    If these things had been said at the time when they would have mattered...I'm sure I'm not the first one to say it...it's good that he's coming clean now and I know sometimes it takes time to get perspective and distance on these things, but....still. I won't look forward to his next film but yes I do give him props for his honesty and for taking a career-risk by being this blunt. (Unless--here's the conspiracist in me--this is part of a deliberately calculated effort to salvage whatever indie/street cred SS/MB/SL may have in setting up their next work together...)

  • May 17, 2010, 2:48 a.m. CST

    ShabbyBlue i think that what his choice

    by ominus

    his career reached its ultimate fulfillment so after that he decided to try alternative roles.he was trying to do the opposite of what Dicaprio is doing now. <p>i dont believe that Holywood is ignoring him because they think that his talent is burned out,ofc there must be a great role for a great actor like Deniro,but i think he is not interested anymore and prefers to do lightweight movies.who knows.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:51 a.m. CST

    RDJ will be the next one who will openly

    by ominus

    trash the IM2 movie.just give it some time and you will see him blaming his pal Jon and Marvel for the shitfest that IM2 was.and then you can expect a reboot of the franchise.heh.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:54 a.m. CST

    Deniro could have one more great role...

    by ShabbyBlue

    ... if Coppola and the gang went forward with their proposed plan for a 4th Godfather movie. It's been talked about for yrs now, and will probably never happen, but I recall it involving Deniro coming back to play an older Vito during the 1930s.. set between the flashbacks of GF2 and before the beginning of GF3. He's definitely old enough and fat enough now to play a convincing Vito Corleone of the 1930s. If only it could happen... but alas, I doubt it ever will.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:54 a.m. CST

    Sir Michael Caine. Being honest about Jaws 4.

    by V'Shael

    "I love that movie. It paid for my beach house."<br /><br />That's an honest fucking quote.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:55 a.m. CST

    Oops...

    by ShabbyBlue

    Damn lack of an edit button. I meant to say it would be set between the GF2 flashbacks and the beginning of GF1. I'm sure you know what I meant though.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:56 a.m. CST

    LOL you know Locke is trolling y'all

    by TheWaqman

    with that comment.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:57 a.m. CST

    well

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    I'm ready for an Indy reboot with Shia starring directed and written by George Lucas, whos with me?

  • May 17, 2010, 3:12 a.m. CST

    Ford's decline after AF1 was his own fault

    by Rocco Curioso

    He perhaps should have known (at the time) that "Air Force One" marked his swansong as the noble action hero. He was 55 at the time, and probably even then had all the money he'd ever need. Why not throw caution to the wind and challenge himself? But no... he turned down roles in both "The Thin Red Line" and "Traffic" (the ones filled by Nick Nolte and Michael Douglas, respectively), and instead went on to do crap like "Hollywood Homicide" and "Firewall". I give him credit for trying to stretch with "K19: The Widowmaker", but the movie itself was a misfire.<P>I agree with ShabbyBlue about "The Mosquito Coast". Ford played this megalomaniacal asshole, and absolutely nailed the role. I get the feeling he pulled back from such departures after that. Maybe just too protective of the image he'd built up.

  • May 17, 2010, 3:17 a.m. CST

    respect?

    by abigsmurf

    "yeah I'll admit these movies sucked now that they won't make much more money and the cheque has cleared! Oh, but I won't suck in this new movie, this is the new me! Go pay money to see it!!!" I'd respect him if he wasn't saying this as a PR stunt.

  • May 17, 2010, 3:17 a.m. CST

    Ironically

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Crystal Skull is his best work.

  • May 17, 2010, 3:20 a.m. CST

    Also, Crystal Skull was underwhelming

    by kwisatzhaderach

    but in no way a bad movie. If he thinks that about Skull what does he think of the Transformers movies?

  • May 17, 2010, 3:34 a.m. CST

    Fair play.

    by Keith Maniac

    Thats pretty honest stuff, i cant recall any actor being that honest in recent memory. For me Indy IV was 70% there, but there are problems with it. I think that most of the high profile complaining was on the net, all the people i know who saw it, who arent film fans and dont trawl the websites enjoyed it. The internet is the wrong place to establish how well a film was received. So 555 people out of 1000 on imdb give a movie 2 stars, but what about the other 7 million people worldwide who watched it and would never think about talking about it online. you cant make $780,000,000 with a film that the majority of punters didnt like. You've got to keep in mind that, with the largest number of people who turned out to see it, Indiana Jones was no more important than the meal they had before they went to the cinema ! "If" there is real honesty in what LaBeouf is saying here, then its wrong right down the line if its as a result of online scrutiny by the minority "fan" communtiy.

  • May 17, 2010, 3:44 a.m. CST

    Shia

    by Darth Thoth

    I've always held respect for Shia. I think the kid is very, very talented. My problem has been with the movies he's made, most offensively Transformers 1 & 2, and Crystal Skull. But again, I thought he did his part well. The problems of those movies were beyond him, i.e. - scripts, directing, cgi, etc. Props to him for keeping it real.

  • May 17, 2010, 3:48 a.m. CST

    Honest or Manipulative?

    by Rupee88

    and you gullible mofos are so easily played.

  • May 17, 2010, 3:54 a.m. CST

    I could give two shits about shia's pandering..

    by Stalkeye

    ..however the fault lies with Spielberg, Bay and Lucas for recently fucking up iconic franchises such as Indy and TF.There was NO need to make another sequel after the last crusade.(Which ended perfectly as indy was riding off into the sunset.traditional hollywood ending, but still great.)

  • May 17, 2010, 3:56 a.m. CST

    Really? so why isn't he turning down TF3?

    by snakecharmer

    that will probably be just as bad as Indy 4.

  • May 17, 2010, 4:09 a.m. CST

    ShabbyBlue

    by Rhuragh

    You haven't liked anything DeNiro has done since Casino and Heat? I can name a few films off the top of my head. Cop Land. Wag the Dog. Jackie Brown. Ronin. The Score. The Good Shepard. Stardust. Surprisingly, that's a pretty diverse range of roles there performed with a great range of other talent. In that list we have films written or directed by David Mamet, Frank Oz, Quentin Tarantino, James Mangold, John Frankenheimer, and Matthew Vaughn. I agree that he hasn't done anything decent in the last two or three years (since Stardust), but saying he hasn't done anything good in fifteen years is a bit of a stretch. If the films above are a bad resume, I can't wait to see a good resume. <BR><BR>Oh, it's refreshing to see all the Lucas hate in this TB. It's a marked change from an argument I had here on the Doctor Who TB two weeks ago where some morons claimed that Lucas' Star Wars Prequels were better than _anything_ Stanley Kubrick ever made. Seriously. I'm not exaggerating. They actually wrote that. And argued with me over that off-and-on over the span of four days...

  • May 17, 2010, 4:15 a.m. CST

    So..

    by my liege

    Props to guy for his honsety; it might not necessarily be the truth but it sounds like he think it is. Hopefully, come Indy V they'll know to instantly remove anything that makes Lucas smile.

  • May 17, 2010, 4:16 a.m. CST

    guaranteed........

    by theDannerDaliel

    I think not. I heard diffrent when he was promoting the film. /ˈʃaɪ.ə ləˈbʌf/ SHY--ə lə-BUFF you suck.

  • May 17, 2010, 4:25 a.m. CST

    Rhuragh

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Refreshing? There hasn't been a nice thing said about Lucas on this forum since May 1999.

  • May 17, 2010, 4:29 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by Rhuragh

    Well, given that discussion I mentioned, I was just wondering if a new memo came out and no one forwarded a copy to me.

  • May 17, 2010, 4:31 a.m. CST

    Updated!!!

    by Fortunesfool

    So the problem with Indy 4 was that it wasn't shot and edited like a bad music video? This tool has just gone down in my estimation. The problem with Indy 4 is a rambling screenplay and bad plot. There was more fun to be had with Indy Vs psychic russians than the silly aliens.

  • May 17, 2010, 4:32 a.m. CST

    It was Lucas' fault. If he said it, he will be murdered.

    by Damien Chowder

  • May 17, 2010, 4:34 a.m. CST

    I want a re-release of Indy 4....

    by theDannerDaliel

    only this time they digitaly replace Shia with a huge walkie-talkie.

  • May 17, 2010, 4:53 a.m. CST

    'Can't act?' He was the only emotion that holds TF movies.

    by Se7en

    Guess who makes talking to a giant freakin' robot belivable..

  • May 17, 2010, 4:56 a.m. CST

    Who to blame for Indy 4?

    by Lemure_v2

    The man who wants CGI everything in every film. The man who thinks of selling toys to children rather than those who made him rich in the first place. The man who has only ever directed one decent film in his life, and is still living off it.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:15 a.m. CST

    Shia

    by Kizeesh

    Gets my respec'

  • May 17, 2010, 5:17 a.m. CST

    Pathetic

    by MandrakeRoot

    I can't help but shake my head at most of these responses. During a Transformers thread or any other Indy 4 thread, Shia gets verbally tossed around and beaten by the lot of you nonstop. Generally he seemed to be one of the most hated actors on this site, garnering an endless amount of nicknames relating to his last name, and making fun of his "no's". Now he says a few comments about how a shitty movie was, well, shit, and now every post is "oh I actually always liked shia, he's a great actor." Fucking pathetic! Do you people have any convictions? Unless someones gonna tell me this site has replaced it's countless Shia haters with Shia lovers, this is just truly sad. Props to the people who haven't swayed there opinion because he tried stupidly taking the blame for Indy 4. <p> I personally never posted regarding Shia one way or the other, and although most of his movies are shit, Disturbia was passable largely due to his acting. Whatever the case is though I just find it very hypocritical to praise him for this type of shit when a few years back he said about Indy 4 that as long as Lucas and Speilberg liked it, he didn't give a shit what the fans thought. Sounds like now he's trying to backtrack and you're all eating it up. How lame.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:20 a.m. CST

    Leave Shia alone

    by centilope

    He and Harrison Ford are the least guilty for Indy 4 sucking as much as it did. They both did as much as they could with the material they were given. Also you may not know this, but Shia has won a Primetime Emmy Award, so he CAN act. I love this inteview and the Transformers one. Shia is honest, but never disrespectful. I love his passion for his work, which you can sense while reading it. It's not going to make me like shit like Transformers 1&2, or Michael Bay, even if Shia said Bay saves kittens from trees when he's not directing shitty movies. But the way Shia describes working on a Michael Bay film, as an event, an experience, the scope, the gargantuan size of it all, how Bay gives him freedom to create his character, how much energy working with Bay on his movies requires, how much adrenaline it produces, makes me wish I could experience something like this at least once, or at least watch a relly long, detailed featurette on how Bay makes his movies, the whole fucking thing.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:26 a.m. CST

    I like Indy 4 and Shia

    by barnaby jones

    It's amusing, they were all so disappointed they decided to start working on Indy 5.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:30 a.m. CST

    Isn´t it always the way?

    by Bruce Leroy

  • May 17, 2010, 5:40 a.m. CST

    Whoops!

    by Bruce Leroy

    Whoops! Pressed a button there. Any-ways, I never hated the guy. Liked him since Even Stevens. The kid has got some acting chops on him. He's really good in A guide to recognizing your saints. Pretty good film. The thing is he gets thrown in these big movies. He has to do his best with these badly written characters. If a film sucks blame it on the writers/producers and director. It's their "vision" up there on that screen.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:49 a.m. CST

    Sounds like Whedon

    by David Cloverfield

    Except when he disses one of his old productions like Alien Resurrection or X-men, he is blaming the actors and directors like a child. Interestingly enough, Shia is a better man.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:51 a.m. CST

    Shia in New York, I love you

    by Mr.Elias

    Just watched New York, I love you - and here Shia rings in a great little performance as a worn down clerk at a hotel. It a subtle and quiet performance. Here you can see what he is capable of.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:04 a.m. CST

    Actors can improve

    by smudgewhat

    So maybe Shia will. Indy4 had potential and some good moments but yeah he dropped the ball. And so did SS big time.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:26 a.m. CST

    I enjoyed it...

    by KubricksBellEnd

    If Crystal Skull had been released in the 80s, you pussies would have eat it up wholesale. Try and imagine yourself as a ten-year-old again and you'll see that in comparison this is a fair attempt at an Indy movie - it certainly equals Indy 3.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:32 a.m. CST

    well, for whatever reason

    by chrisface2000

    it's true. this actually made me gain more respect for him. but whatevsssss

  • May 17, 2010, 6:44 a.m. CST

    Get him on TB

    by Dazzler69

    He needs to see our complaints and give to powers that be. Not that it would help in my eyes, but for a lot of other dumb asses that would think about seeing his movies like Wall street 2 electric bugilou.

  • May 17, 2010, 7:12 a.m. CST

    Ironically, Mutt was his less irritating role...

    by ricarleite2

    So as long as we fucking despise Shia here, 50% as an AICN running gag, 50% because he sucks, he was not to blame on the shitfest Indy 4 was, and he is a fucking idiot to try to take the blame and the heat for it. Indy 4 was a shitfest because of Frank Darabont and David Koepp horribly uninspired screenplays, Spielberg's "The Terminal" style of shitty direction (his worse since his Night Gallery episodes), George Lucas being the fucking George Lucas we know, and Ford not being the Ford we loved - and not backing up on this crap as Connery did.

  • May 17, 2010, 7:13 a.m. CST

    He didn't gain any of my respect, guaranteed!

    by AngrySmurf

    We're talking about a guy who actually does have a modicum of talent and potential, but who has so far done nothing other than chase the money from one shit project into another pretty much from the very second that he went from "actor for hire" to "star who can pick and choose". <p>Since then he's done Disturbia, Crystal Skull, Eagle Eye, the star ego wank project New York I Love You, and now he's up to his third Transformers movie. Now I can forgive him for signing on to Crystal Skull, as let's face it, who wouldn't have rolled the odds on that one? But everything else equates to one hell of a long streak of shit that he has dragged across our screens, and underlines pretty clearly that this guy is more about the money than the movie, and if the wad of cash is big enough he'll sign on to pretty much anything. <p>I read an interview with Harvey Keitel once where he said that as soon as an actor has any level of success he has a choice to make - whore or artist. Well Shia has clearly chosen to be Hollywood's latest whore, and for that he deserves no fucking respect at all from any film fan in my opinion.

  • May 17, 2010, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones saves the day!

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Wait, how did he save the day in Raiders, exactly? By getting tied up and closing his eyes? Kinky

  • May 17, 2010, 7:26 a.m. CST

    RI P Dio \m/

    by MacReady452

  • May 17, 2010, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Until he says the same things and worse about Bayformers...

    by photoboy

    ... he gets zero respect from me.

  • May 17, 2010, 7:39 a.m. CST

    Hollywood Homicide

    by enderandrew

    I saw this with a group of friends, and we all liked it. It was moderately funny. It wasn't amazing or anything like that, but I'll take it over Rush Hour 2 and 3.

  • May 17, 2010, 7:40 a.m. CST

    It's not a matter of respect

    by bobjustbob

    He's a terrible, terrible actor.<p> He could be the nicest, coolest, brightest person in the world. He could be the biggest asshole in the world. I don't care. HE CAN'T ACT. It's painful to watch anything he's in. Period.

  • May 17, 2010, 7:46 a.m. CST

    You guys remember George Clooney after BATMAN & ROBIN?

    by AsimovLives

    Clooney felt so embaraced by B&R, that he even said that if anybody who hated the most asked for a ticket refund, he would pay them. Clooney was so embaraced that he made a 180 degrees turn in his career, and decided to kept more time making good movies, and evne directing some himself. It was one of the biggest turn arounds in the career of a Hollywood star.<br><br>Maybe if Shia gets embaraced enough with the blockbuster tripe he has been involved, he pulls a Clooney and start making better chpoices to act in better movies. Certainly by now he must be confortably welthy to not just take roles merely for the paycheck.<br><br>I don't hate Shia, but i don't like him either. i'm pretty neutral on him. I can understand why would anybody like him, the doesn't look like the typical plastic pretty boy that is infesting modern american cinema. At the same time i can understand why people would hate him, his stitch is irritating and he can be an irritating screen presence. And the fact that he has ben put in this huge blockbusdters, made into a star at such an early age, even though he is yet to deliver an amazing show stoping acting performance that would sell and justify his current status.<br><br>Of coursee there's always time for growing. For example, 5 years ago i couldn't give a fuck about Josh Brolin, and today he's one of my favorite actors.

  • May 17, 2010, 7:47 a.m. CST

    by teddyduchamp

    A Guide to Recognizing your Saints anyone?

  • May 17, 2010, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Sorry, this doesn't get him any respect from me.

    by Sailor Rip

    Trashing movies after you've made them is a dick move. And I liked Indy 4 so piss off.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:10 a.m. CST

    @AsimovLives

    by Rocco Curioso

    Judging from your last post... I do believe you are drunk/high as a motherfucker, sir. Your spelling is atrocious, but I applaud your wholehearted passion. This site needs more of that well-intentioned insolence.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:10 a.m. CST

    The irony about this post...

    by fassbinder79

    ...Is that Shia was actually the only good thing about the new Indiana Jones movie. Spielberg has completely lost his touch and hasn't made a decent film since Schindler's List. Sure a couple of the films he made after that had their moments (i.e. Amistad, Minority Report) but every film after Jurassic & SL is dogshit. Slow mo Bana covered in sweat in Munich comes to mind or how 'bout the son in War of The Worlds running toward the aliens attacking while yelling "I need to see this." Total crap. Christopher Nolan is the new and improved Spielberg in my opinion. Shia is a decent actor. Not so sure how I feel about his close friendship with Jon "I hate anyone that isn't white or that fits my model of what a 'true' American is" Voigt. But there is no denying that Shia is much more talented than many would give him credit for on sites like these. I for one am looking forward to Money Never Sleeps with Shia because I think it's a role where he can show off his darker side as an actor. The problem with films like Eagle Eye and Transformers is they are completely wasting his talent. It has been awhile since Oliver Stone made a film as great as Nixon or even to a lesser extent Any Given Sunday but everything I have seen from WS 2 has me thinking it will surprise quite a few critics.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:22 a.m. CST

    And by the way...

    by fassbinder79

    The TRUE definition of a "genius" is someone who is actually still making good films. As far as the old guard goes - Paul Verhoeven comes to mind with his brilliant direction of Black Book. A filmmaker is only as good as their last film in my opinion. Woody Allen has left us with some crap recently. DePalma left us with Redacted (a horrible and offensive film). Scorsese (who I normally love) left us with the disappointing Shutter Island (with an ending that I saw coming a mile away). Milos Forman let me down with Goya's Ghosts. And Stone hasn't made a solid film since Any Given Sunday. New guard mantle belongs to Christopher Nolan and Quentin Tarantino. Old guard award goes to Verhoeven and David Lynch.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Transformers 2

    by neodelrio

    Wasnt he just complaining about Transformers 2. I also heard he stole a prototype of the new iPhone.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:37 a.m. CST

    I can foresee Shia being in a Woody Allen film.

    by Joely_Boy

    Like Jason Biggs in Anything Else, which was a pretty fuckin' good one, I thought.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:41 a.m. CST

    fassbinder79

    by Joely_Boy

    WORD on David Lynch still having it. I think INLAND EMPIRE is the closest film will ever get to being pure art.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:42 a.m. CST

    lots of fault to go around, but it's mostly Spielberg

    by maverick2484

    It took me about 4 viewings over time to finally acknowledge that Indy 4 isn't very good. Personally I don't understand the criticism that the film is "unrealistic" - Indy films have never, ever been realistic. However, all 3 of the earlier films represented the gold standard in action/adventure filmmaking at the time when they were released, and you absolutely cannot say that about Indy 4. It wasn't cutting edge enough to be a grand spectacle equivalent to what Raiders would have been in 1981 or Doom in 1984, and it wasn't "stripped down" enough to feel retro and charming. Ford sleptwalked through the film and had some truly embarassing moments(see: back of Shia's motorcycle, quicksand scene). The only moments where I felt like I was actually watching Indiana Jones were the first sequence, and during the banter with Marion in the back of the truck. Outside of Ford, Shia was miscast. Seems like a nice guy, totally wrong for this role. Imagine Chris Pine as Mutt in the exact same movie - just like that, the movie gets better. I think most of the fault here has to ultimately lie with Spielberg - he's the one who put Shia in a role that he couldn't possibly be taken seriously in, he's the one who made Indy feel like a supporting cast member in what was supposed to be his great big screen return, he's the one who failed to deliver a single memorable action sequence. As for Shia's comments, that's all well and good, but only when I hear similar contrition from Spielberg will I have any faith that Indy 5 could be the real late-career Indy adventure that we wanted and expected out of Indy 4.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Mutt and Indy 4

    by Berone_Sunrise

    Problem is, whatever adventure Indy has now it's never going to match raiders, still THE best pure action movie yet made. Shia was great in the film, and yes, while the movie wasn't amazing it was solid enough to warrant another episode (still hoping for a second trilogy) and his performance well worth seeing more of. Sure, there were mis-steps in the film and I hear that LFL and Amblin practically came to blows over the final edit (was told by a Paramount exec that Amblin took the film away and LFL couldn't get near it until it was locked), so not entirely anyone's fault. Agreed, refreshing honestly but Shia is a bright enough star and a bright enough man to say these things intelligently and clearly enough that it's meaning isn't misconstrued. Plus $780 million for Indy 4, plus the 2 Transformers box offices makes him pound for pound the most bankable star on the planet right now, so he's earned the right to speak his feelings.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:45 a.m. CST

    I didn't have a problem with...

    by STLost

    &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br>,but I felt it lacked a bit of the charm of the originals. Shia did a great job in his role, can't fault him for that. <P> For Indy 5, they need to cut the budget, and make them work hard, lean, and creative with the money they've got. If the film involves going to China, go to China. Do some location work. Get Spielberg back to gritty filmmaking for this probably last Indy film.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones V

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    This is what was reported in March: http://www.getthebigpicture.net/blog/2010/3/2/harrison-ford-updates-indiana-jones-5.html

  • May 17, 2010, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Flush

    by cyrenaic

    When a piece of shit realizes that it is a piece of shit, I don't applaud; I just flush it down the toilet. Now please keep this douche (and Michael Bay, Spielberg, Lucas, etc. for that matter) away from promising movies.

  • May 17, 2010, 9:06 a.m. CST

    photoboy he has criticized TF2

    by ominus

    there was a recent topic here about that

  • May 17, 2010, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Shia's acting

    by tatoosh

    His basic problem is that he learned how to act at the Disney channel school for over-acting.

  • May 17, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST

    No no nono nonononono

    by ominus

    hahaha

  • May 17, 2010, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Legolas

    by teddyduchamp

    they should have got Orlando Bloom for Indy

  • May 17, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST

    That was the biggest cop-out "apology" I've ever heard.

    by ndoty_sa

  • May 17, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST

    BUMMMMMBLEBEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Greatest line in sinnnamattic His Story

  • May 17, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Indy 5 = not happening. Trust me.

    by ricarleite2

    Harrison Ford will be 70 at the earliest moment principal photography can start. Spielberg will not touch any of his good material anymore out of fear of hurting his credibility even more - he is out of touch with his audience, and the fact a movie is directed by Spielberg does not give that magic vibe anymore, we just shake our heads in disbeleaf now. George Lucas wants to focus on SW prequel shit some more, like the TV series. And even on the highly unlikely event Indy 5 comes out, the odds of it being as good as TOD or LC are so low it's sad. Just fucking stop. Spielberg, just take the lazy hack path that Zemeckis took and do digital mocraps with your new pal Peter Jackson.

  • May 17, 2010, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Actually, I thought he had talent from day one.

    by JDanielP

    I haven't seen him in much,...but he does strike me as being just as talented as any actor of his generation.

  • May 17, 2010, 9:29 a.m. CST

    So Shia LaBeouf just called...

    by conspiracy

    said he is all itchy and stinging after his love scene with Megan yesterday; and, not wanting to spread the love, wanted to know if I knew how to get rid of it before his sexy Mom came over. I said No Fucking Way!

  • May 17, 2010, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Where is Orlando?

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    I know, he's still asleep on a bed stuffed with Hobbit and Pirate Money.

  • May 17, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    GL will probably produce a LOST movie

    by ominus

    than make another Indy movie: http://bit.ly/9gUAfL

  • May 17, 2010, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Ronnie James Dio...

    by conspiracy

    Better to Reign in Hell than Serve in Heaven! May sweet oblivion take you in it black embrace and set you on high amongst the damned.

  • May 17, 2010, 9:37 a.m. CST

    For the crime of speaking out against The Beard...

    by TheGreatHomsar

    ...I declare LaBuff to be an outLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!!!

  • May 17, 2010, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Monkey scene aside, Indy 4 is pretty damn good.

    by HoboCode

    Really don't get the hate.

  • May 17, 2010, 9:43 a.m. CST

    27 Years?

    by KSB36

    I waited 27 years for the return of Marion Ravenwood and this is what I got? Skulls was atrocious. The blame lies squarely on the director. If he didn't understand what a piece of shit that movie was, how poorly directed and awkward the actors looked, he has no business being in the business. Makes me want to cry for such a badly squandered opportunity. Spielberg, shame on you. Raiders is a perfect film, from beginning to end, with not one wasted moment. What happened to you?

  • May 17, 2010, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Shitty Labeef....

    by DickJones

    I am just waiting for him to realize what a terrible actor he is,go out one night and get tanked,and then get caught with a tranny sucking his dick on Biscayne Boulevard.

  • May 17, 2010, 9:53 a.m. CST

    So Shia LaBeouf just called and said:

    by ominus

    No nonono nononononononono

  • May 17, 2010, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Shia did a good job in Indy IV

    by D.Vader

    And I enjoy the movie regardless.

  • May 17, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST

    He looks like a girl with boxing gloves on

    by MoOmOo

    but you can't blame him. If some EPs came up to you and said "Oh hey, you want to glance at a hot girl's asses all day and star in your childhood favorites? Oh by the way, here's a million dollars."

  • May 17, 2010, 9:59 a.m. CST

    It's like Sean Connery vs. Roger Moore

    by IronSkillet

    When I was a kid, I thought there was a true competition between Sean Connery and Roger Moore in the James Bond movies--I didn't realize that Moore replaced Connery, and so I thought they were putting out different versions of each movie--in my mind I imagined a Roger Moore version of Goldfinger was out there, for example, and though it'd be really weird as I like the Connery bond better. Indy IV had that same dreamlike weirdness about it--it was like some other people just put together an Indiana Jones movie, and it was familiar, but not really in the same universe as the other ones. Harrison Ford became his own Roger Moore.

  • May 17, 2010, 10 a.m. CST

    So Harison Ford just called and said:

    by ominus

    fuck off

  • May 17, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    "This one is for the fans"....

    by conspiracy

    I still maintain Lucas, Ford and Spielberg got together in a drunken stupor one night, and unleashing their well known disdain for the people who made them rich said.."Hey we don't need this shit...just for kicks lets make the worse possible Indy film we can and see if the fans will still watch it"</p><p>$700M+ later I think they got their answer.

  • May 17, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST

    I'm with Quint on this one.

    by Jared_Syn_City

    He's right. On all of that. Good for him. Indy 4 was atrocious. People, he is in Hollywood and he called out Spielberg, said his movie sucked. Good lord, you just don't to that.

  • May 17, 2010, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Some cynicism is afoot

    by CreamCheeseAlchemist

    Whether it's a 24-month blackout on such statements in Shia's contract or Shia figuring enough time has passed... The film's made the majority of the money it ever will. Gotta say I respect Shia considering his own failure in selling the material, not just harping on everyone else.

  • May 17, 2010, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Most of the first half hour of Indy IV works GREAT

    by Darth Busey

    Indy and Mac getting roughed up by the Russians, the chase through the warehouse, the rocket sled. The fridge bit is awful. Most of the Marshall College stuff is great, including the Mutt intro and motorcycle chase. Where the movie completely falls off the track is when they travel to Peru. The whole UFO/alien plot is COMPLETELY OUT OF PLACE in the universe of Indy Jones (which prior, had at least been "plausible" in a historical context), and working Marion into the story was hackneyed and sad.

  • May 17, 2010, 10:26 a.m. CST

    THE ONLY ONE WHO CAME OUT OF INDY IV UNSCATHED

    by Darth Busey

    was Sean Connery and Denholm Elliott. One for having the good sense to turn this script down, the other for dying before it came to fruition. Tough to say, but true.

  • May 17, 2010, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Shia does decent work. Not great, but not usually crappy

    by VAwitch

    Indy4 was crappy material, for all 3 main characters. I thought he did Mutt ok considering the overall stupidity of the story.<P><P>As for TF2 - I give him points for saying "we didn't do it right" - though his Access Hollywood interview @ Cannes seemed like he was either trying to excite himself @ TF3, or trying to sell the public that there was more confidence on the TF3 script.<P><P>As a TransFan, I'm still leery of the speed at which TF3 was put into production.

  • May 17, 2010, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Rocco Curioso

    by AsimovLives

    I'm foreign. You got a problem with that?

  • May 17, 2010, 10:32 a.m. CST

    those two brats (Shia and Megan fox) need to shut it!

    by DioxholsterReturns

    they are shitting on the hand that feeds them. they are spoiled brats.

  • May 17, 2010, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Since when did Harrison Ford like any of his movies?

    by DioxholsterReturns

    that guy is always skeptical of the movies hes in. go ask him about star wars; he wanted his character dead early on to get out of the mess. lol. it mans nothing, Ford is a skeptic. a director just has to deal with him

  • May 17, 2010, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Joely_Boy

    by fassbinder79

    It is criminal that Laura Dern didn't get an Oscar for Inland Empire. A masterpiece and the definition of what it means to be "anti-Hollywood" and not a tool of the establishment. Not my favorite Lynch flick but it has some very memorable moments and he still shows that he can make films that are thought provoking and defy traditional storytelling. But without a doubt (no matter how one might feel as a whole) Dern deserved more recognition for her amazing performance.

  • May 17, 2010, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Indy 4 was cool, TF2 was cool. Shia likes to douche his rectum

    by DioxholsterReturns

    if i see shia in public im gonna shout SHUT UP! to him.

  • May 17, 2010, 10:57 a.m. CST

    DioxholsterReturns

    by fassbinder79

    Megan Fox = Hot chick who can't act her way out of a paper bag. Shia = Decent actor who earned the career that he has today. He didn't become successful because of Steven Spielberg or Michael Bay so he doesn't owe them ANYTHING quite frankly. If he owes anyone it should be the director/casting director of Holes & Even Stevens and his agent/managers/lawyers. Whether Spielberg or Bay hired him he would have still gotten work from someone. Good actors get hired...PERIOD. Just look @ his friend Jon Voigt (a very good actor w/ disturbing political beliefs).

  • May 17, 2010, 10:59 a.m. CST

    If I ran a studio...

    by fassbinder79

    I would hire Tom Sizemore all the fucking time. Amazing actor....Period. I don't give a shit about his personal life. He is the Robert Mitchum of my generation.

  • May 17, 2010, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Terminator 4 was an awful movie, someone needs to apologise for

    by DioxholsterReturns

    Shia is a douche

  • May 17, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST

    The thing i find most disturbing about this interview

    by Bathman

    is how shai pretty much just throws harrison under the bus, i mean seriously if he did say something to you in provate about not liking the film then leave it private, now FOrd has to deal with wired feelings with geroge and steven or have to have some idiot reporter ask him in an interview. Shai is a class A dick for bringing harrison'sname into the indy 4 bashing, i think we'll see an indy 5 but i don't think ford or speilberg will want shai back at all, hell they might even ret-con him right out by not mentioning him at all

  • May 17, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST

    SLAP ME AS HARD AS YOU CAN

    by master_of_realty

    You're a faggot, dog.

  • May 17, 2010, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Jon Voigt has good political beliefs,

    by DioxholsterReturns

    yo shia homo lover erectis, grow some bones and use it for fire. coz you just proved to me you made of wood.

  • May 17, 2010, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Shia is like a whore with a big mouth

    by DioxholsterReturns

    Shia needs to be slapped like a bitch

  • May 17, 2010, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Shia got the idea from megan fox

    by DioxholsterReturns

    he thought like "wow megan fox said that and can get away with it then i pretty much can too, hey im a big actor too."

  • May 17, 2010, 11:16 a.m. CST

    i have zero respect for a man who worked alongside Megan Fox <p>

    by DioxholsterReturns

    hes overcompensating by douching the people that gave him a career. listen up Shia, i think its time for you to use those nasty drugs your mom has been taking since the 60s.

  • May 17, 2010, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Ford wasn't upset at Indy 4

    by jimbojones123

    He was upset that he had to come down long enough to put out some kind of effort, but then he went right back to being high.

  • May 17, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST

    i have zero respect for a man who worked alongside Megan Fox...

    by DioxholsterReturns

    ...and didnt FUCK her juicy hole!

  • May 17, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST

    no Ford doesnt use drugs, he just like to watch Stargate all day

    by DioxholsterReturns

    especially nowadays with Stargate Universe being on.

  • May 17, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Shia has a weird mom

    by DioxholsterReturns

    shes the type of mom you find in orgies and group masterbation parties. i wouldnt be surprised if Shia was taught early on how to "dominate" a woman.

  • May 17, 2010, 11:27 a.m. CST

    I first saw shia in dumb and dumber 2

    by Bathman

    At the time i was thinking, man this kid is annoying

  • May 17, 2010, 11:28 a.m. CST

    i like it when actors shut their mouths

    by DioxholsterReturns

    unlike Shia

  • May 17, 2010, 11:30 a.m. CST

    i first say him in Steven Evens Stevens even...blah blah.

    by DioxholsterReturns

    he was like dorky. and retarded.

  • May 17, 2010, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Micheal bay probabaly put him up to it

    by Bathman

    Bay holds ALOT of resentment towards spielberg, Bay probabaly had shia say that stuff just to piss off the beard

  • May 17, 2010, 11:44 a.m. CST

    I'd watch Shia over RPatz anyday

    by HapaPapa72

    If I had to choose between them. So now when is Lucas gonna throw out his mea culpa for the prequels?

  • May 17, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Never got the hate either...

    by Darth Macchio

    Tho I haven't seen Crystal Skull (not sure if I want all my Indy hopes dashed so brutally) but I think we all know the fault of any shit on that...he may be a big target but this has "George Lucas" written all over it.<p>I know some of you like to think the man has earned a thousand years of non-comments to make him criticism-immune simply for the genius of Star Wars and while I agree SW is genius, the man who created obviously is not and deserves no shade from scrutiny. Lucas is a fucking hack and has been one since the 80's. There! I said it!<p>No, I haven't written a blockbuster movie nor directed one. I didn't create ILM or anything remotely close to it. I didn't create Lucasarts or anything close to it. I know some anti-geniuses think that means we cannot critique Lucas but that's bollocks. Art is by definition, criticized and should be by both artists and "lay" people. I don't need to be a chef to know a steak tastes like an old leather belt.<p>It occurs to me Shia taking blame and especially Spielberg, seems like a terrible way to justify the shittiness of Crystal Skull (which, again, I'm not saying as I haven't seen it) but if shittiness, it is, then shittiness is purely the blame of Lucas and his "hands all over" approach. His "ideas" are what are go and nothing else. I'd like to be wrong but even on his bad days, Spielberg gives us watchable stuff where on his bad days, Lucas gives us horrible tripe that makes great actors look like junior high dweebs and great epic stories, look like convenient illogical nonsense.

  • May 17, 2010, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Just came across this gem...

    by chimpjnr

    "Probably the sexiest woman I know is my mother," he says. "She's an ethereal angel. Nobody looks like that woman. If I could meet my mother and marry her, I would. I would be with my mother now, if she weren't my mother, as sick as that sounds."

  • May 17, 2010, 11:58 a.m. CST

    suck my dick philosophy is warranted here

    by DioxholsterReturns

    suck my dick Shia, suck it.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:09 p.m. CST

    About "the hatred"

    by Immortal_Fish

    Leia LaBoussh doesn't have any acting range. He is who he is. He plays himself. And if you are predisposed not to like his personality, then chances are strong you will not like his delivery in any movies that feature him.<P>Will Smiff doesn't have any range either, but I like Will Smiff. Therefore, barring any other shortcomings of a movie, chances are strong that I will appreciate his performance. Conversely, Johnny Depp has range, yet I do not like his personality. Because he doesn't play who he is, unlike Leia, chances are strong I will still appreciate his performance.<P>This isn't fuzzy math.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:10 p.m. CST

    yeah Shia is today's Oedipus

    by DioxholsterReturns

    hes a motherfucka.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:11 p.m. CST

    I like Shia just fine.

    by ebonic_plague

    He's a good actor and seems like a nice guy. The fact that he speaks his mind AND drives so many of you shut-ins to sputtering, apoplectic spasms of jealousy and bile only makes me appreciate the guy even more.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Shia couldve played Darth Vader

    by DioxholsterReturns

    if Shia was old enough and Lucas discovered him at the time, he wouldve had the chance to play vader.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Quote of the year...

    by We_like_it_VERY_MUCH

    RPLocke May 17th, 2010 01:02:05 AM "..I have Batman and Robin in my DVD collection..."

  • May 17, 2010, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Shia's mom is bi-sexual, hes hoping for a threesome

    by DioxholsterReturns

    am i going too far?

  • May 17, 2010, 12:19 p.m. CST

    2nd Quote of the year...

    by DioxholsterReturns

    We_like_it_VERY_MUCH May 17th, 2010 12:13:05 PM "RPLocke May 17th, 2010 01:02:05 AM "..I have Batman and Robin in my DVD collection...""

  • May 17, 2010, 12:21 p.m. CST

    I put most of the blame

    by Volstaff

    For Crystal Skull at George Lucas' feet.Somehow he was able to talk his friend Spielberg into going along with a stupid idea of a movie and got him to "Phantom Menace" it up with ADD crappy CGI creatures. If they ever do another they need to return to the pulp adventure feel of the first one and stay away from the cartoon bullshit. As far as Shia, I attribute most of the hate to some kind of nerd rage. His appeal is he has a kind of everyman quality about him that some people like, and a lot of people hate, especially no life guys who sit at home watching the internet, pissed off because they're only interaction with pretty girls is through the Bang Brothers, while Mr LeBeouf is out getting laid,making movies and making money.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:24 p.m. CST

    DioxholsterReturns

    by We_like_it_VERY_MUCH

    How does that make any sense? <P> Locke, I have the Robocop box set... but guess what I use for a coaster... Robocop 3.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST

    im tired of making fun of Shiva

    by DioxholsterReturns

    i mean Shia. ill stop. he cant bash his own work or else people will be reluctant to get him for other work. out of fear

  • May 17, 2010, 12:29 p.m. CST

    it is everyones falt

    by clustercuss

    Lucas, Spielberg, and fords. They are Indy and they are all responsible for the quality of the film. It is hard to but the blame of its lameness on anyone of them just blame them all equally and move on. Mutt is just some dumass kid. But kudos for trying to take reasonability for his part. Ps Just give me the Blu rays and leave it alone.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:30 p.m. CST

    KOTCS sucked shit. Ford was great Shia was superfluous

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    That's the whole thing about Shia. He is superfluous. In no movie is he ever really necessary. He is just there. Even his starring roles, he is just there and could easily be replaced. Nothing against Shia, seems a decent sort, but the dude brings nothing to his movies other than a sort of manic personality.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST

    who are the Bang Brothers?

    by DioxholsterReturns

    heard of them before on some chick TV show, two sex and the city women drinking cofee talking about Bang Brothers never got it.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Why didnt Shia fuck megan fox and filmed it and put it on youtub

    by DioxholsterReturns

    thats wat i wouldve done.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Has nobody seen Guide to Recognizing Your Saints?

    by SK229

    That movie proved to me that he's a great actor... like any, he has to be given good material to work with. As soon as I saw him riding that motorcycle ala Brando in The Wild One, I knew he was miscast in that part, even though he managed pretty well with what he was given. I also don't think it's Shia's fault he couldn't 'sell' swinging around with monkeys... that was so awful I can barely stomach mentioning it. I agree with anyone who would put the blame on Lucas... did none of you watch the behind-the-scenes stuff on KOTCS either? I sensed some real tension and a sense of, "Fine, we'll use the fucking aliens if you and Harrison will get off my goddamn back!" from Spielberg regarding Lucas' idea. I truly believe Spielberg only made the movie to get it over and done with... I think he did not want to make that type of Indy movie at all and just went along with everything. Not to say he doesn't do such fuck-ups in his own movies, but like others have said, the Darabont script proves Lucas wanted certain things and he got those things... as does the behind-the-scenes stuff which proves his stubbornness in getting what he wants, even with Spielberg. As for Ford, I cannot, for the life of me, understand those who say he didn't deliver the same character... I was AMAZED that he could shake himself out of the coma he usually seems to be in over the last 15 years and make me believe he was Indiana Jones again. That was the best part of watching that movie.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:35 p.m. CST

    "‘Star Wars’ creator admits winging it"

    by Chief Joseph

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37182667/ns/today-entertainment/ <br><br>“Don't tell anyone ... but when 'Star Wars' first came out, I didn't know where it was going either. The trick is to pretend you've planned the whole thing out in advance. Throw in some father issues and references to other stories — let's call them homages — and you've got a series.”

  • May 17, 2010, 12:36 p.m. CST

    I may not of liked Indy 2 but it was...

    by Tom_Bombadil

    ...way better than Indy 4. Indy 2 was consistent with Indy 1 and 3. Indy 4 was just plain bad. I seriously doubt I will go to the theater to see Indy 5 no matter how good people say it is. Indy 4 ruined the franchise for me.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST

    i film all foreplay sex on my youtube channel here

    by DioxholsterReturns

    http://tinyurl.com/ox6lyw

  • May 17, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Haven't even seen the movie but STILL blame George Lucas?

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Darth Macchio set a new standard. Speaking of which it's telling how many TBers have "darth" in their name yet call for Lucas's head. It's like some weird father figure thing. Ironcially.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Keep Ford. Dump the Beards and Shia

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Keep the beards as 'consultants' but turn over writing and direction to others. Ford is still great in the role, and it don't need no updating. Keep him in 50's, but give him a damn religious artifact to find.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Tbolt, I think you speaking the unspeakable truth

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Back off for your own safety dude.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:42 p.m. CST

    STAR WARS is the only film that truely matters in the history of

    by DioxholsterReturns

    if Lucas is a hack then why havent the non-hacks ever come up with something close to Star Wars?

  • May 17, 2010, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Stargate?

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Atlantis?

  • May 17, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Thunderbolt Ross is the right on the money!

    by DioxholsterReturns

    haha, the world is fucked up

  • May 17, 2010, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Star Wars is superior to Stargate

    by DioxholsterReturns

    i like them both but they cant be compared, different leagues.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST

    If lazy Stevie had just used REAL monkeys and gophers...

    by Darth_Inedible

    I seriously wouldn't have minded those scenes if they'd done them old school with real animals. There's just something grotesque about using CG for animal humor/slapstick in a live action film... Just imagine the wandering elephant trunk/snake scene in Temple of Doomif that had been a goofy, over-animated CG elephant and snake...

  • May 17, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Damned if he do, damned if he don't

    by terry1978

    If somebody in the industry that fanboys hate didn't say shit, they'd be viewed as an asshole. If they do say shit and own up to something, it just means they're an opportunistic asshole. Can't win with us.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST

    monkey no! stop humping Shia! bad monkey bad monkey!!!

    by DioxholsterReturns

    damn we shouldve CGI-ed these fuckers instead. Shia being gangbanged by monkeys cant be good for the movie.

  • May 17, 2010, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Shia's mom wanted Shia to be a pornstar instead

    by DioxholsterReturns

    i bet she was disappointed by the fact he turned into some kind of hollywood actor,

  • May 17, 2010, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Shia is the type of kid that gets bullied in school

    by DioxholsterReturns

    for being an A-hole.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Shia needs to wake up and smell the roses on Megan Fox pussy.

    by DioxholsterReturns

    then he should proceed to penetrate that pussy while wearing an Optimas Prime mask.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Indy 4 was fine!!!!

    by pr0g2west

    Shia was deluded into thinking that anybody dropped the ball on that film. It's because of the haters that he was forced to admit that he had any wrong doing on that film what so ever. I DO NOT respect him for saying that about himself...All it means is that he wishes he was the perfect actor that could have made the movie better, nobody is perfect. Do you know how difficult it is to make an Indiana Jones film? No, none of us know...You can't just recreate an old format, and keep the same artistic integrity it had back in the 80's. However, I think Indy 4 did a pretty good fucking job attempting to do that, and I do believe that nobody could have done it better. So screw Shia for bashing his own movie. People have to accept Indy 4 for what it is and move on, if you dont like it thats fine, but you need to stop dwelling on it. Stop thinking it could have been better. Never will there be a new Indy film that will meet your expectations...because trying to recreate original perfection can never work...Trying to paint the Mona Lisa stroke for stroke will 100% of the time result in a piece of shit.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:35 p.m. CST

    I think bitchslapping the people that gave you a job...

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    AFTER THE FACT is kinda bullshit. It certainly doesn't gain them more respect in my eyes.</p><p>It's not like Shia had to take any of these jobs. He CHOSE them. now maybe the scripts weren't complete when he did, but who's fault is that? Pretty har to imagine reading a script that says "And then he starts swnging through the trees with monkeys and CATCHES UP TO THE JEEPS" and think "That's gonna be so fucking awesome". Regardless I'm sure he knew he was going to be a Wold One clone when he read the script and he should have been pretty fucking sure he wasn't right for that part.</p><p>I'm not bagging on him by the way, dude's living the fucking dream. I'm just saying this isn't some sort of revelatory exoneration or something. If he would have said "The script was sketchy but I really wanted to do it. I had planned to bulk up for the role but couldn't find the time. When the monkey thing came up I refused to film it. They threatened to sue me and I told them to get fucked, so they replaced me with CGI. But yeah, I fucked it, no question. I should have realized there was script problems and I wasn't right for the character anyway, so I apologize."</p><p>THEN I would have stood up and cheered!

  • May 17, 2010, 1:35 p.m. CST

    HapaPapa

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    GL doesn't need to give a mea culpa because the only people so upset with the prequels were guys with very large man boobs who don't matter very much.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Keeper Of Chimps

    by ricarleite2

    Right. The audience loved the prequels.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Indy IV was 95% Lucas's fault

    by 1st and only

    5% goes to Spielberg for not having the balls to fight Lucas on the problems the movie blatantly had. In interviews you can tell Speilberg wasn't completely convinced the movie was gonna work but trusted the Beard's decisions...doh!

  • May 17, 2010, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Actually, I now respect him LESS

    by SlimButNotreally

    How long has this movie been out? 2 years now I think? NOW he comes out? Why didn't he speak up with he read the script...or saw the dailies. He didn't know shit. He's just trying to save face by saying what everyone else has been saying.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Labeouf needs to keep these things to himself

    by SithMenace

    It's fine if he discusses it personally with Spielberg and Spielberg agrees, but who is Shia Lebeouf to criticize him publicly? He can trash Bay for all I care though. I wonder if he'll be out of Transformers 3 now. It's not like I care, I never even watched the second one and don't care about the next one.

  • May 17, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Fridge and monkeys aside...

    by sapno_krei

    ...Indy IV works pretty well as "just another Indy adventure." As the flick we'd been sitting on our hands waiting for for 20 years? No so much. You could take the story and put it between Indy 1 and 3 and still find it enjoyable. I only wish the Lucas and his writers had tackled the aging hero thing with more grace and poignancy. And I really liked Shia as Mutt -- but definitely did not view him as the one to take over tha hat and bullwhip.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:07 p.m. CST

    by DarthBlart

    part 5 Jones should travel to Haiti and meets his Haitian son Jayden Smith and when he meets him he can say "Deja Voodoo"

  • May 17, 2010, 2:08 p.m. CST

    RDJ will only do one more Iron Man movie

    by RPLocke

    I 100 percent bet he thinks Iron Man 2 sucked.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Lets hope this sets a precedent

    by LordDenning

    Maybe more actors should take notice of Shia's comments. I for one would like an apology from Hayden Christisen.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Wait, hold on...

    by ebonic_plague

    Which one is the Beard? I thought it was 'Berg? And Lucas was the one with the gizzard. You guys need to keep your derogatory names straight.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:17 p.m. CST

    edit: disinterested

    by kaijuturtle

  • May 17, 2010, 2:17 p.m. CST

    edit: disinterested

    by kaijuturtle

  • May 17, 2010, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Where's my Jake LLoyd apology?

    by RPLocke

    That little shit ruined TPM.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:23 p.m. CST

    More idiotic Lucas trashing...

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    As said above, it appears to be some sort of bizarre oedipal thing, particularly from cretins with Star Wars user handles. It's both funny and pathetic. The truth of the matter is this - Darabont's script was a piece of crap and Lucas made the right call in dismissing it. Of course, the final film was garbage, too, but Spielberg is the true fall guy in that regard - he hired David Koepp, one of the blandest screenwriters around, and phoned the whole thing in. La Beef is one of the lesser factors in the whole sorry mess, but what he says is essentially meaningless since he's just a cog in these huge, multi-million dollar machines. I take it he's going to have a word with Bay and that Trannyfomers 3 will consequently be a real surprise? No, I thought not. I sincerely hope that all parties involved don't waste their time on Indy 5, especially that dry old husk in dire need of a hit, Harrison Ford, who is truly one of the most passionless 'actors' around these days. In order of blame: Spielberg; Ford; Lucas; La Beef; the CGI gopher.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:24 p.m. CST

    It's kind of amazing...

    by Blanket-Man

    ...that a movie that scored 77% positive on Rotten Tomatoes is so universally reviled by geekdom. Spider-Man 3 is still at 62%, but on here it's right up, I mean DOWN there with Manos, The Hands of Fate. I think both suffered greatly from the superior films that preceded them. As Ebert says in his review of KOTCS: "if "Crystal Skull" (or "Temple of Doom" from 1984 or "Last Crusade" from, 1989) had come first in the series, who knows how much fresher it might have seemed?" IMO, Indy IV and SM 3 are both passably decent films, they just aren't the home runs that their predecessors were, and fandom punishes them greatly for it.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST

    The fact is Indy IV was held at such high levels

    by RPLocke

    for fans, that nothing could have pleased them. If Indy V ever gets made, you can bet the Lucas trashers will hate that too.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Spider-Man 3.......

    by DickJones

    ....uh no sir, it is not a "passably decent" film. It is the Batman & Robin of the franchise.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Agreed

    by LordDenning

    Batman & Robin was awful, I would rather watch a fire in an orphanage.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST

    I hope Lucas NEVER apologizes for the Star Wars prequels

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    Just to infuriate the slobbering geeks for ever more. Of course, Lucas has a history of never apologizing for anything, or even responding all that much. For example, only Spielberg ever apologized for Temple of Doom, and very wrong he was too. Lucas has always been adamant about what he wanted for that movie. Conclusion: Lucas a flawed but proudly stubborn individual; Spielberg a lily-livered pussy. La Beef seems even more spineless. I don't call it honesty, and I don't respect it. The fanboys are no credible jury. These guys should publicly stand by their decisions, and only admit to themselves in private their mistakes, instead of airing their dirty laundry. If they truly feel that they fucked up, just quietly go about 'proving' otherwise by delivering a great follow-up movie, be that Indy V, or Tranny 3, or whatever. As they say, talk is cheap.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Lucas already apologized for TPM

    by RPLocke

    Notice how Jar Jar gets little screen time in AOTC and ROTS? Notice how the last two movies don't have much in the way of fake looking aliens but TPM does?

  • May 17, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Lucas already apologized for TPM

    by RPLocke

    Notice how Jar Jar gets little screen time in AOTC and ROTS? Notice how the last two movies don't have much in the way of fake looking aliens but TPM does?

  • May 17, 2010, 2:41 p.m. CST

    I already liked him before this interview, but still

    by Marksman91

    Good on him. And yeah, I too think that he has potential as an actor. So far, he still hasn't done a bad performance. Maybe not an oscar-worthy one, but not a bad one either. Let's see what he does under Oliver Stone's direction in Wall Street 2.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:43 p.m. CST

    RPLocke, why then does Clones have a

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    scene where Jar Jar is re-introduced in the most irritating manner possible, screaming and jumping around like a lunatic? Seemed like a calculated middle finger to all the Jar Jar haters. As Harry once said in his infamous 'review', it's like a 'Steppin Fetchit' routine.

  • May 17, 2010, 2:45 p.m. CST

    I'm feeling guilty...

    by darthwaz1

    I know as a fanboy it's my SWORN DUTY to hate the prequels, Indy 4, and Clone Wars- but I can't bring myself to HATE any of it!! what the fuck is my problem!?

  • May 17, 2010, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Shia's parents should apologize for..

    by Stalkeye

    ..naming him Shia.WTF kind of name is that to have? it's almost as bad as some Actor naming his Son Kaleel..oh, wait...

  • May 17, 2010, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Turd

    by RPLocke

    he was in the movie for less than 10 minutes. Stop bitching.

  • May 17, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Locke has been arguing this point for 14 hours

    by EddieMurphysLaugh

    Give it up Locke... INDY 4 sucked. Not because fanboys had such "high expectations" you are insulting the intelligence of fanboys when you say that. If thats your rational than every fanboy sequeal EVER must suck..including The Dark Knight or Godfather II. People know A GOOD MOVIE when they see it ad they reconize a fucking piece of shit..but ok..South Park along with THOUSANDS of intelligent non shit shoving and eating "if it made money its good" philosophers (such as yourself) are all totally off the mark on this one..Hey LOCKE..even SHIA FUCKING LE BOUF thinks it sucked..thats the whole point of the article. You still owe me 10 bucks by the way.

  • May 17, 2010, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Not a Shia hater, but not a real fan either

    by BanditDarville

    However, he gets props for humility from me. I also agree that he's being too hard on himself. Transformers 2 and Crystal Skull were pieces of shit, he isn't a good enough actor to be expected to save either one of them.

  • May 17, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    So 50 Cent just called...

    by donkingkong

    And gave much respect to Shia, then asked for Spielberg's cell number.

  • May 17, 2010, 3:43 p.m. CST

    i like Shia

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...didnt like him when he was annoying kid of Even Stevens, but he does well in movies... he has (geeky) charisma... but I dont see how he can be blamed for a movie that he did not direct or write... unless it was GI Joe, then ya can blame the actor for it (TATUM SUCKS!)

  • May 17, 2010, 3:43 p.m. CST

    My take on Indy 4

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Actually I'd have to see it again actually to let you guys know what my brilliant mind has conjured up. I will say this though: As with the Star Wars movies - okay as with Jedi - the older Indy movies aren't the perfect and amazing things people make em out to be.<p>Okay I always say that. However I used to always except Raiders from that spiel, except I watched Raiders a few months ago, and sadly it wasn't as great as I remembered it. I probably hadn't watched it in a decade. Don't get me wrong it was a hell of a lot of fun but just not as satisfying as I remembered.

  • May 17, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST

    So Lil Wayne just called...

    by donkingkong

    And gave much respect to Shia, then asked for Spielberg's cell number.

  • May 17, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST

    So Lil Wayne just called...

    by donkingkong

    And gave much respect to Shia, then asked for Spielberg's cell number.

  • May 17, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Ghostface Killa

    by donkingkong

    And gave much respect to Shia, then asked for Spielberg's cell number.

  • May 17, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Batman & Robin = well-deserved hatred

    by Blanket-Man

    B&R is at an astounding 12% on RT (someone might want to check on those 7 critics (out of 59) who liked it...). But SM3, Indy IV and IRON MAN 2 (which also seems to be headed toward 'hated by fandom' status for some baffling reason) all scored respectably well with critics. Yet there are still those on here who insist that these films are god-awful. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but it seems a bit extreme to cast such aspersion at those of us who actually *gasp* ENJOYED those movies. How can you decry that we know nothing about films when so many who are supposed professionals in film-grading fall on our side of the ledger?

  • May 17, 2010, 3:59 p.m. CST

    hating Indy 4

    by maverick2484

    isn't just about blind fanboy rage. Its got legitimate, fundamental flaws as a *movie* and not just as an Indiana Jones movie. It's not the best effort that guys as talented as Spielberg, Lucas and Ford could have given us, and frankly, if you're going to bring back a character after a 20 years absence, then I think it's totally fair to expect that a best effort will be given to the fanbase that kept the character alive and relevant over the intervening period. Watch the movie again and tell me if Indy does a single thing to drive the action forward - he doesn't. He reacts to Mutt and that's what takes him to Peru, then they get kidnapped and somehow end up in the lost city after going over a waterfall. Indy ends up looking old and ineffectual; he's not a man of action, stuff just happens to him. That's not how you make a hero look heroic on film. We don't want to see Indy on the back of Mutt's motorcycle, we want to see Indy driving the motorcycle. We don't want to see Marion yelling "this isn't school!" at Indy while they try to get out of quicksand, we want to see Indy getting them out of quicksand. I don't want to see a bumbling Indiana Jones who needs his wife and kid to get him out of trouble. Maybe Spielberg and co thought that was a logical evolution for the character, and maybe it is, but that doesn't mean it's worth watching. If Ford lacks the physicial stamina to put an Indiana Jones movie on his shoulders then they should have left it at Crusade, and if the counter argument is "of course this was worth making, look at how much money it made", then that's an incredibly cynical move on the part of the filmmakers and we're right to be critical of it.

  • May 17, 2010, 4:02 p.m. CST

    EddieMurphysLaugh

    by RPLocke

    I don't mind Indy IV at all. It was new Indy movie after about 29 years, and no shit it's different from the others. People can be critical of movies and also LIKE them at the same time, That fact passes people like you right on by.

  • May 17, 2010, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Adam West as the Ox would have been better

    by FlyingToupee

  • May 17, 2010, 4:07 p.m. CST

    And Hugo Weaving's face on the CGI Monkeys

    by FlyingToupee

  • May 17, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST

    some of the cast for terry gilliam's don quiotxe have been annou

    by emeraldboy

    robert Duvall. but the actor to play the lead role is Ewan McGregor.

  • May 17, 2010, 4:31 p.m. CST

    HAHAHAHA!

    by TedKordLives

    RPLocke thinks Brando peaked with 'Superman'? <P>BWAH-HAHAHAHAHA-HAHAHAHAHA! <P> Surely you jest, sir.

  • May 17, 2010, 4:34 p.m. CST

    TedKordLives

    by RPLocke

    He peaked with that movie he did with Matthew Broderick.

  • May 17, 2010, 4:37 p.m. CST

    he should shut the fuck up

    by frg10

    and say "THANK YOU MR SPIELBERG for giving me the chance to be in this high profile movie no matter what the outcome was". Shia is too much of a young cocksucker to be critisising Spielberg. I liked the guy but now he can die. You just don't bite the hand that feeds you (even if NIN sings other way). He now want to acts cool as Indy 4 got bashed by fans community so he is out there saying what dissapointment it was. How about your robot-garbage your tiny little piece of shit wannabe actor ... BITCH!

  • May 17, 2010, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Orson Welles peaked with Transformers

    by ebonic_plague

  • May 17, 2010, 4:49 p.m. CST

    You're funny, RPLocke.

    by TedKordLives

    I get it now. You're either a comedic genius or a certified wacko. I guess I was being too hard on you either way.

  • May 17, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Aesthetics

    by skani

    Lack of aesthetic continuity with the previous films made Crystal Skull feel like a black sheep. -Soft, fuzzy, glare-y "Catch Me If You Can" cinematography was an odd choice -a much less or organic feel overall: cgi and soundstage vs. locations and real objects (George Lucas in full Star Wars prequel mode) -the crystal skull itself looked like it weighted about 1/2 pound as opposed to the 10+ lbs it should (come on, at least create the illusion that this is something other than a cheap piece of plastic).

  • May 17, 2010, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Fuck him, Crystal Skull was excellent

    by TheFifthCylon

    Fuck you, LaBeouf. This is fanboy pandering and we all know it. Indy 4 was an excellent film.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:04 p.m. CST

    meh

    by redkamel

    I mean, it was nice of him to say it, but did he just really realize now what every Indy fan knew as soon as they heard the word's "alien" and "psychic"? I would rather spend my time writing a screenplay for my OWN Indy 4 adventure. Hell I already have half a Transformers one and Ideas for The Guyver and "Farewell to the Master".<p> Call me what you wish, but my imagination is far more entertaining to me than that the crap they put out in masquerading as blockbusters. <p> The saddest part is that these are REAL PROPERTIES that could become huge again. The potential for Indiana Jones and Transformers was huge. Instead, wasted. <P>For example if they had done Indiana Jone's son right, so that, you know, people liked him, or he seemed actually related to Indy (who is an idealogic, adventrous academic, just l like his dad, NOT a rebel) than maybe we would have a cool Young Indiana Jones-like again series again. But nope.<P> and IMo Temple of Doom was the a great Jones adventure. It was dark but so were some of those serials...they dealt with just a little of the occult.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:10 p.m. CST

    So Wayne Knight just called......

    by DickJones

    ...you all DIIIIIIIICKS!

  • May 17, 2010, 5:15 p.m. CST

    The Darth in my name...

    by Darth Macchio

    ...is actually...since you didn't figure it out...a tribute to Hayden Christensen in AotC. Whiney not unlike Ralph Macchio in TKK movies with pretty much every line of dialogue ("It's all Obi-won's fault! He's jealous! Wahh!"), it seemed a perfect fit.<p>Ok, I'll admit it looks like I've got it out for Lucas (I don't, he's a brilliant storyteller even now) and I'll also admit that I took what he did to the OT a bit personal which, at the end of the day, who gives a shit what I think?<p>But I blame Lucas for what Shia says is his and Speilberg and Ford's fault, arguing that Lucas is a far more likely culprit given all the other talent working in the film.<p>I said I didn't see it (more than once I believe) therefore I was not passing judgment on the film itself.<p>But considering the people involved in the making were attempting to take blame for it not being "good" (it did make coin so "good" is relative, right?) then it kinda pains me if Speilberg or LeBeouf or Ford takes the blame and Lucas has nothing to say and they don't even mention his name? The man who gave us some of the worst dialog in all major-studio produced sci-fi in the last 20 years? He's not even considered in the blame circle of something not being successful?<p>He's "above" criticism to some of you apparently which makes me wonder why? You imply obsession on the parts of others yet you always say things like "let's see your 30 year legacy of sci-fi blockbusters" or something even less intelligent like "he's given us so much great sci-fi, we must be silent and nod our heads at anything that comes from the Lucas resevior"...I can't even articulate the nonsense people come up with to defend Lucas where he should be skewered and praise him where he does indeed deserve praise.<p>If Indy4 sucks as bad as people say..and again, i have no fucking idea and this is NOT my opinion...then I doubt the result is purely from Shia, whom is good in everything I've seen him in so far (including Holes, etc) and Speilberg whose talent never seems to falter, or, if it does, it doesn't falter for long or Ford who, well, hasn't been that great in a while regardless.<p>But yet look at Lucas...Star Wars is his genius. Empire was smartly handed to those far more capable than he though he continued to write a brilliant storyline...Jedi he had to take more center stage as we had Ewoks and a yodelling Chewbacca but yet purely kick ass dramatic scenes between the Emperor and Luke (more good storytelling). We won't even go into the prequels.<p>To me, this is like Mike Jordan playing Golf and being shitty at it. You guys seem to say "Fuck you! Jordan is the greatest b-ball player ever...fuck you if you think he sucks at golf! Shut up and be happy he's even playing you ungrateful schlep!" and I'm saying "No, he's a great b-ball player but can't golf to save his life"..only it's Lucas, a great storyteller who can't write screenplays or direct actors, to save his life.<p>If you disagree, wonderful. Welcome to the land of subjective opinions.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:15 p.m. CST

    TedKordLives

    by Stalkeye

    It's the latter and not the earl. (0:'

  • May 17, 2010, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Jerry Seinfeld just called

    by RPLocke

    He said, "What is the deal with these cell phones?! I mean what is the deal?"

  • May 17, 2010, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Further...

    by Darth Macchio

    I don't think even the real haters have anything out for Lucas and that includes me. I like to be irreverent and flaky and try to have a good time with this stuff so 99.9% is full on tongue in cheek, etc, etc.<p>But I recall people calling Nat Portman wooden after seeing her in AotC and wondering what all the hype about Ewan MacGreggor after seeing him in AotC when they're performances were much to blame on Lucas for not being an actor's directory (obviously).<p>But yet people think this guy Lucas is above criticism? Again, why?<p>Do the same people who think that also want to lick Steve Jobs ass? Is he above criticism too? Cause he seems like the same douchey but still quite brilliant asshat as Lucas...(both quirky businessmen with brilliant initial visions that quickly soured to mostly meaningless commercial nonsense with moments of sheer brilliance here and there (Iphone for Jobs and Pixar and Lucasarts for Lucas)

  • ...for a movie, and one of the guys called him Shia La Beef, and then the other guy started laughing and told him how funny he was, and then called Shia, "Shia La Poof". Then they both laughed really hard while holding each others' shoulders, then they started making out, with tongues. It was really sloppy, and they were making a lot of noise with their mouths. Then they dropped to the ground and removed all their clothes and started fucking each other in the ass. Then a guy came up from behind them and called Shia, "Shia La Queef". They all laughed heartily, and the 3rd guy quickly disrobed, and then stroked the other two guys' cocks like skiing poles, and then they all took turns fucking and sucking one another simultaneously until all their energy was spent, and they lay on the ground naked covered in each others' semen mumbling, "Shia....Shia....Shia...Shia..."

  • May 17, 2010, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Ronnie James Dio: Dead at 67

    by PinkFloyd7

    RIP Ronnie. And Roger Waters is 66. He better fucking live to play those "Wall" shows. I just paid $400 for 2 tickets.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Shia was easily one of the BEST things about Indy 4

    by performingmonkey

    And everyone here knows it. He was one of the only cast members who sold what he was doing as being genuine and real IMO. Most of the others were just along for the ride, Ford included for at least half of the flick. Ford DID shine in those few scenes where it was just him and Shia. Those parts felt like Indy to me. All the bullshit with Marion and basically the entire second half was sooo terrible that's all anyone will remember. Up to the point where Marion comes in it's an OK to good movie.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    How is this supposed to make me respect him?

    by Jaka

    I think it makes him more of a douche. He still got payed, and very well at that. Ya know?

  • May 17, 2010, 5:36 p.m. CST

    fassbinder79 - on Tom Sizemore...

    by Mosquito March

    I couldn't agree more. Did you see him opposite Brian Cox in a small revenge movie called RED? The years and lifestyle have not been kind to Sizemore; he was nearly unrecognizable in it. But, he was awesome. He's still got it. One of the true modern badass actors.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, R.I.P.James DIO

    by Stalkeye

    I never cared for his music(I'm more like a Misfits/ Samhain fan.) but he was responsible for the famous devil horns finger sign.<p>His band (DIO) had Interesting Album covers especially Holy Diver.<p>Rest in Peace.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST

    I hope Cameron apologizes for Avatar eventually

    by ominus

    because it was not the Aliens sequel that the ignorant and delusional fanboys expected to be.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Holy Diver, you've been down too long in the

    by Jaka

    .... midnight sea. RIP Ronnie.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:49 p.m. CST

    ominus is living in the 80s!!!

    by RPLocke

    He's ready to picket that theater showing Tron Legacy.

  • May 17, 2010, 5:56 p.m. CST

    RPLocke

    by ominus

    you misinterpreted what i wrote.try again please.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST

    "That Shia...I knew there was something good about him...

    by conspiracy

    I mean other than the velvety feel of his tongue up my ass" George chuckled. "George...you are so right, I gotta hand it to him..the little prick plays his part well and isn't afraid to jump on the grenade for the right price..." Spielberg clucked, "...I even like how he threw Harrison and I under the bus for our 'failures'...as if we didn't intend it that way!" Spielbergs guffaws echoed around the dark room which still smelled of cheap perfume, sweat and marijuana. "Yes sir...let the fan boy whining begin anew!" Steven sang out, "... give them a 'he understands us' hero, in a few weeks we issue some faint praise for Beef and promises of something better..and in a year from now these cellar dwellers will be lathered up like Pavlovs Dogs when we announce the release date on 5"</p><p>George could hardly wait, his goiter shaking and jiggling with every chuckle..."Fuck Steven...if you thought we had fun fucking them like a Thai Whore last time, just you wait till this one...they'll cry like Megan did when Bay made her wash his car." "HAAAAAAAAAAAAA...", roared Berg; "...speaking of that FUCK...he has some great ideas for TF3...wait till you read the part where that talentless twat has to help some robot with his 'lubrication' problem; I swear, if I didn't slow up the fucker he'd have an NC-17 slapped on it...tawdry fuck that Bay, knows what a cunt is for thats for sure". </p><p>George sipped his drink still giggling to himself..."Yes Steven...the next 3 years will be the best fan fucking we've ever given....yes it will". " George...", Spielberg replied, "when we are done with 5, and you with the TV show...we'll never have to think about these fucking 'fanboys' ever again...and fuck I love their tears...they are an elixer of pleasure like no drug I've had...life will be sweet George..sweet indeed."

  • May 17, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST

    It's not only Spielberg who's gonna call him

    by misterk360

    But a whole bunch of other people as well. But i'm not surprised as the guy is a well known asshole on and off set.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Wait til Ghostbusters 3 comes out...

    by darthwaz1

    I already know it, it will be the biggest fanboy backlash of all-time. as much as we all dislike part 2, it doesn't matter how good 3 is, fanboys will say 2 is better.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Camerona's Avatar apology will come eventually

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    When he's going to screw up and to get some love from the fans in a "aww he's a good guy at heart" thing.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:18 p.m. CST

    According to fanboys Inception is the best movie

    by RPLocke

    of all time.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Marion turned out to be a lying bitch then...

    by Dead_Kate_Moss

    I felt sorry for Shia's character in Crystal Skull. he's been lied to all his life about who his father is, and presumably if they hadn't all been coincidentally captured, Indy would never have known he had a son. What a bitch. 'Luckily' none of them seemed too care much....

  • May 17, 2010, 6:22 p.m. CST

    which means never since

    by ominus

    Gods dont screw up.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Bill Murray apologizes for Ghostbusters 3...

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    In advance.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Why isn't he trashing Transformers also?

    by BoyNamedSue

    That was the worst movie I've ever seen......I never even bothered with the sequel!

  • May 17, 2010, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Inception is already "the best movie evah!"

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    A million fanboys twerps and teenybopper Bat fans are ready and waiting to cast their "perfect 10" votes on the IMDB, thus propelling Inception to the top of the greatest films of all time list. Kurosawa, Kubrick, Welles and Fellini have nothing on Chris Nolan, nothing I tell you!!

  • May 17, 2010, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Boynamedsue....I"d guess it has something to do with "Gross Poin

    by conspiracy

    And the fact Bay could and would kick his pussy ass...after he bent him over on set and used him as a living coke shooter.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:35 p.m. CST

    BoyNamedSue he has trashed TF2 in a recent

    by ominus

    interview.you can find it here in aicn.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:36 p.m. CST

    here it is: http://bit.ly/9TgQzU

    by ominus

  • May 17, 2010, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Ominus...I wouldn't say he "Trashed" it...

    by conspiracy

    his damning of TF2 was tepid at best.</p><p>Still..you can be assured he licked a lot of ass, and Megan washed a lot of cars, to get those gigs back. I Pity their agents.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Shia the beeef will rule you all!

    by RPLocke

  • May 17, 2010, 6:39 p.m. CST

    hehe conspiracy's posts as always are a

    by ominus

    delight to read.kudos my friend for using your time to write them. ;)

  • May 17, 2010, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Revenge of Beloqs Ghost

    by DarthBlart

    with 100% less Shia

  • May 17, 2010, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Ominus..Thanks...

    by conspiracy

    Between work and other work..not much time to be online anymore. But fuck I missed this place.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Bill Murray should apologize in advance...

    by darthwaz1

    because no matter how hard Ramis and co. try, fanboys already hate their movie. It amazes me how "fans" will show up in droves for a movie like nightmare on elm remake, a movie they know will be an awful butchering of the beloved original. But movies that don't suck, Indy 4, prequels/clone wars for example, make them want to jump off a roof.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Wayne Knight apologizes for BATMAN 3

    by FlyingToupee

    Because he knows that his King Tut gig is gonna kill the franchise.

  • May 17, 2010, 6:50 p.m. CST

    I'll say this for Shia...the fucker is delusional...

    by conspiracy

    Just look at this quote about TF2..."Mike went so big that it became too big, and I think you lost the anchor of the movie. ... You lost a bit of the relationships. Unless you have those relationships, then the movie doesn't matter. Then it's just a bunch of robots fighting each other."</p><p>Ya know...thats what was missing with TF2 that TF had in spades...deep character development and heart.</p><p>HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 17, 2010, 7 p.m. CST

    Leo Dicaprio just apologized for Inception

    by RPLocke

    He said that it really really sucked, and that Inception II will be much cooler.

  • May 17, 2010, 7 p.m. CST

    I was watching SAVING PRIVATE RYAN last night...

    by CountryBoy

    ... and I realized Tom Sizemore is the SPITTING IMAGE of Jonah hill in 20 years. Someone should cast them as father and son...

  • May 17, 2010, 7:02 p.m. CST

    RED DEAD REDEMPTION

    by master_of_realty

    In 5 hours!

  • May 17, 2010, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Christopher Reeve's Ghost should appologize for Super Man IV - T

    by DarthBlart

  • May 17, 2010, 7:05 p.m. CST

    FAGATAR, SkullFuck and the Prequels=S H I T

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    Cameron, Spielberg, and Lucass have all sold out for the green screen of death and lowest-common-denominator, corporate, focus-group demographics. Avatar, KOTCS, War Of The Worlds, TPM, AOTC, and ROTS = SHIT.<P> <P>As for Shia "nonononono" LeDouche I guess nobody told him that "money equals quality"...Movies that make a lot of money at the Box office, are the "greatest movies ever!" <P> <P> Shia LaBeouf Hated "Transformers 2"<P>Speaking to FHM magazine, actor Shia LaBeouf admitted that he hated the second "Transformers" movie and agreed with Megan Fox that it was totally confusing. <P> "There are a lot of people that liked the second one, but I hated it. I just didn't enjoy it," he said. "I thought we missed the mark. I got confused, I couldn't see what the fuck was going on, you know with certain robots... I couldn't decipher what was happening. There were storyline paths that I just wouldn't have gone down."<P>http://tinyurl.com/2fsxx3o

  • May 17, 2010, 7:06 p.m. CST

    This just popped up on the Yahoo front page

    by Jaka

    Lead story.

  • May 17, 2010, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Shia the beef got confused by a Transformers movie

    by RPLocke

    Hmm.

  • May 17, 2010, 7:15 p.m. CST

    oh nice someone unlocked Tranny the Troll

    by ominus

    from his basement.could somebody put him back pls?

  • May 17, 2010, 7:18 p.m. CST

    He didn't gain my respect.

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    My respect will come when he shows me that he can act and show me some range. Instead of the same acting in every movie. Easy to trash on a movie afterwards. Anyone can do that. Show me something onscreen. So far I am not impressed.

  • May 17, 2010, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Nice to see a young guy in the public eye...

    by moonlightdrive

    being honest and truthful. LeBron could learn a thing a two from him and so could all the older sycophantic actors who think they're fooling everybody.

  • May 17, 2010, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Ha ha ha ha, "FAGTAR"!!

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    Trannyfomers, I absolutely RELISH the fact that Avatar's huge success has made you thoroughly miserable. It makes me cry with sheer joy to see a fucktard like you suffer. Long may it continue! You little weasel, I hope FAGTAR 2: VOYAGE UNDER THE PANDORAN OCEANS makes 3 trillion dollars, causing you to gas yourself with car fumes to end the pain.

  • May 17, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Turd that makes us two

    by ominus

    hahaha poor Tranny.

  • May 17, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Open letter to Shia...

    by vettebro

    If you want respect from the audience, then don't take a movie with a shitty script. Indy 4, Transformers 2 were shitty scripts. Have some integrity. Choose quality scripts and your career will skyrocket.

  • May 17, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Jackie Gleason apologizes for THE TOY

    by FlyingToupee

    from beyond the grave.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Bumblebee apologizes to Starkist

    by FlyingToupee

    for having a better tasting tuna.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Instead of apologizing...

    by vettebro

    Spielberg, Lucas and Shia should give us all our admission money back. If you are going to charge that much for a fucking movie, then it better be good!

  • May 17, 2010, 8:15 p.m. CST

    Shia should give us all our admission money back

    by FlyingToupee

    Or post those shots of Megan Fox and her vibrator that he stashed on his camera phone on the internet for all of us to see. It would be a fair trad.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Variety says Pirates 4 to be shot in 3D

    by RPLocke

    Johnny Depp just called me to apologize.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Excuse me for that last post

    by FlyingToupee

    I'm a little drunk.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Junior Samples apologizes for HEE HAW

    by FlyingToupee

  • May 17, 2010, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Minnie Pearl apologizes for those hats

    by FlyingToupee

  • May 17, 2010, 8:23 p.m. CST

    And now Wall street........

    by pauduro

    Is going to turn into trash Thanks Shailayaman or what ever your name is

  • May 17, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Gene Rayburn apologizes for Match Game

    by RPLocke

    Mostly about the lapels.

  • May 17, 2010, 8:45 p.m. CST

    LeBouf and Ford

    by darthvedder81

    I like Shia but I think he's just buying into all the Crystal Skull hater rhetoric. Same with Ford. Both of them seemed enthusiastic enough when Indy 4 came out. The movie had it's problems and it's certainly the weakest of the 4 but it still had plenty of that old school magic at times. Even if flawlessly constructed I frankly don't think old-fashioned, pulpy action flicks like Indy work for modern audiences anymore. People just don't understand them.

  • May 17, 2010, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Steven, Shia Is Right...And You Need To Fix It!!!

    by Media Messiah

    Spielberg and Lucas have gone around making special editions of their films in the past, adding special effects, and erasing props, etc., like the guns in "E.T.", and re-arranging who shot first in "Star Wars", Gueedo, instead of Han Solo. What great mistakes, as they lessened the urgency of those scenes, and thus the films themselves. But there is a good use for special editions, and the latest Indiana Jones deserves one.<BR><BR>Spielberg should get rid of the now infamous "Nuked Fridge" part of the film, and have Indiana get in the Ark of the Covenent in order to survive the nuke blast, as it is a holy relic, one with supernatural powers, as in the power of God. That is the only way Indy could have survived that blast, and that should have been the answer to his escape, instead, they used the refrigerator, and the film lost its integrity from that moment on--and it was down hill from there. Of course, the whole movie should have been about what we assume are the Russians coming to steal the Ark, only to discover they are Nazis hoping to resurrect the Third Reich, as the Fourth Reich--with regaining the Ark as a part of some more grand scheme, where we learn Hitler survived the war, and hopes to complete his scheme to use his collection of stolen religious relics to take-over the world, a scheme that indy once interrupted years ago, by retrieving the Ark. That should have been the latest Indiana Jones, not the weird and cartoonish film that we got.

  • May 17, 2010, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by ominus

    you do realize that the nuke site was miles away from the hangar with the artifacts?

  • May 17, 2010, 11:06 p.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by RPLocke

    Please tell me you're kidding with that idea?

  • May 18, 2010, 12:10 a.m. CST

    Spielberg & Lucas should have partied less!!!

    by Darkplanet

    Seriously, do you have to have fucking champagne at the end of every shoot?! It was a big fucking traveling reunion with no heart and no concern over whether or not they failed (because they assumed they couldn't). Whatever magic they had bottled up to make Raiders happen, they need that gritty, dark overtone sprinkled with a lightly humored balance to redeem themselves with Indy 5. Go to Atlantis Indy and DIE saving the planet already! And give us some stunt-work that doesn't make us embarrassed to be GenX, children of the 80's please! The whole theater literally cringed more than once and I think everyone was confused by just how shockingly stupid it all was. Disbelief might be a better word there. Good stunt choreography should make you feel like it's possible, even when it's improbable. I mean that's where Raiders really shinned. (I agree with Shia...fucking swinging in the tress...iyuyiee).

  • May 18, 2010, 12:23 a.m. CST

    I say give those fucktards a second chance

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    one last go. And fucking hurry before Ford croaks.

  • May 18, 2010, 1 a.m. CST

    Can't be serious

    by sirens

    Shia isn't in the position to critizise Spielberg. He got the chance to be in a Indiana Jones movie next to Ford, directed by Spielberg..thousands of actors dream of this and never make it. Show some respect, you wouldnt make a dollar without Spielberg pushing you, LaBeouf.

  • May 18, 2010, 1:06 a.m. CST

    Lucas is the fuck up here

    by aboriginal

    He's great as a producer/developer, but cannot write a script for a tampon commercial to save his life. He can talk Spielberg and Ford into anything, but in the end they let him hold the reins. Spielberg could've told him WTF on the monkey swinging and while you're shooting the thing at the very last drop it and move on to a better idea. Shite, in the story-boarding why didn't someone have the balls to say WTF are we doing here!?! George, I love ya, but you really do suck as a writer/director. I watched the first trilogy again recently and it really hurt to get through it this time. Didn't Willow teach you anything? Ford's got the ability to say no way, but didn't too. So, there's enough blame, but I can't believe they didn't see a turd as they were making it rather than after. Indy's one of the best characters ever made and it mystifies me that some of the most creative minds can't make it happen again like the first time.

  • May 18, 2010, 1:13 a.m. CST

    What about Harry's iPad?

    by AzzyAzzy

    Still not sure who wants to hear about movies when Harry could just be posting how awesome his iPad is again.

  • May 18, 2010, 1:14 a.m. CST

    Shia would be perfect for young Han Solo

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Lucas has already apologized with Clone Wars

    by RPLocke

    Seriously, the cartoon has been better than the first two prequel movies. It's great!

  • May 18, 2010, 1:46 a.m. CST

    I watched 1 episode, it was pretty good

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

  • May 18, 2010, 1:46 a.m. CST

    No problem with Shia...

    by bubcus

    The issues I had with Indy 4 were the CG gophers that pulled me away from the film, the monkey swinging scene was dumb (not Shia's fault), and the climax was "meh." It didn't feel like Indy needed to do anything in the climax. They show up, they stand there and observe, and then run away. ...sigh.

  • May 18, 2010, 1:59 a.m. CST

    yeah the end was weak

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    the monkey scene was retarded but I didn't really care. what I didn't like was the script which reminded me of the stench of the first two prequels. some of the conversations were stiff, dull, and lifeless.

  • May 18, 2010, 2:10 a.m. CST

    I didn't like the gophers. The ants were cool, though

    by RPLocke

    I loved it when the ants sucked that guy into the hole. Cate Blanchet was a pretty shitty Indiana Jones villain.

  • May 18, 2010, 2:44 a.m. CST

    Darkplanet..Bullshit..they should party MORE!

    by conspiracy

    Their BEST work came during the days when they were fucking snorting blow off Carrie Fishers anorexic body and tag teaming Kate Capshaw on the set of Temple of Doom. Old age and sobriety has made them cynical, mean spirited,uncaring and a deviant form of greedy beyond the dreams of Bernie Madoff.

  • May 18, 2010, 2:45 a.m. CST

    Temple of Doom was a great sequel

    by SithMenace

    It was the sequel that dared to be completely different than the original, and Spielberg has been taking shit for it ever since.

  • May 18, 2010, 4:24 a.m. CST

    Before I comment on what LaBeouf said, I'd just like

    by FamousEccles

    to say to to Quint - watch your fucking place., cunt. Don't you tell me who has gained my respect, you dip shit.

  • May 18, 2010, 4:31 a.m. CST

    Now, about this young pup. To hell with anybody

    by FamousEccles

    who hated Indy 4 for all the reasons the claim to love the others. You are a bunch of deluded assholes, this LaBoeuf included, if you think the Fridge is any different to the raft, the mine car, the motorbike chase or the chase sequence in Raiders,. You crazy fuckers. Indy 4 is great. LaBeouf's Mutt was perfect. I'd like to point out that that this kid keeps singing Bay's praises. Fucker keeps signing up for that shit doesn't he.

  • May 18, 2010, 4:33 a.m. CST

    sirens, I hope Spielberg tells him what for. Disrespecting

    by FamousEccles

    the Beard while licking Bay's hole. The kid is on drugs.

  • May 18, 2010, 4:35 a.m. CST

    DarthBlart, are you fucking serious, brother???

    by FamousEccles

  • May 18, 2010, 6:01 a.m. CST

    I can't stand Shia...

    by Obnoxious_Username

    But that movie was not his fault. The kid strikes me as a D-bag though. He must feel pretty confident in himself to go after the Berg like that. Brass balls or lack of brains?

  • May 18, 2010, 6:27 a.m. CST

    Lucas is to blame for ruining Indy 4, Spielberg for letting him

    by HELLSFOXES

    shia will be great in wall street 2. perfect update of sheens character

  • May 18, 2010, 6:32 a.m. CST

    The worst thing that Shia was guilty of....

    by Cervantes

    ....in Crystal Skull, was mumbling unclearly through various lines throughout the movie because he talked to fast! I only made out what he was saying in several scenes when I watched the eventual (rented) DVD with the subtitles on....<P>Apart from that annoying aspect (which should have been picked up on by someone in charge anyway), he has little to reproach himself about where his involvement was concerned.<P>No, the fact remains that both Spielberg and Lucas are the main culprits for the screw-up that Crystal Skull ended being in many ways.<P>Spielberg especially his versions of blew Hook, Jurassic Park 2, and War of the Worlds too as far as I'm concerned, and Lucas unfortunately mis-judged his 'Special Editions'/Prequels. They may continue to make profit in certain circumstances, but these guys can certainly miss the mark when it comes to making great movies at times, unfortunately.<P>Still, props to Shia for somewhat acknowledging the fact that Crystal Skull was a DUD!

  • May 18, 2010, 7:15 a.m. CST

    score!

    by radruss001

    Crystal Skull - I liked it. Indy 5 - please be 'go.' Positive gushing about an actor done for the purposes of freebies and other perks later due to ass kissing = priceless

  • May 18, 2010, 8:25 a.m. CST

    Blame Spielberg

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Seriously, who do you think brought in master screw up David Koepp. Also watch the Lost World. Lucas had nothing to do with that film, and it seems a lot closer to Crystal Skull in quality than people want to admit. Sure Lucas came up with some of the dumb plot points (and maybe even some of the CGI overuse), but I think the dead fish quality of the film and awful script constuction go to Senior Berg.

  • May 18, 2010, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Fuck Labiouf

    by tronknotts

    Waht the fuck is he thinking? Seriously? If should be apoligizing for anything, it should be everything but Crystal Skull that he's done since Constantine. Crystal Skull was fun as hell. If it wasn't an "Indy" movie, and if people didn't constantly compare it to the others in the series, they would have loved how "bat-shit insane" it was, in a Grindhouse/Machete sort of way. Buying into the biased opinions of nerdy fucks is pure fail.

  • May 18, 2010, 8:54 a.m. CST

    I love how you pasty fuckwads think you deserve an apology

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    You really keep throwing a bucket full of dicks in your mouth everytime you say "Lucas should apologize..." or "Lucas has apologized...". Look at the fucking box office. Not only did an assload of people see the prequels and Indy IV, but they saw them MULTIPLE times and bought the fucking DVD. So he pleased enough people that he doesn't have to apologize to a bunch of self-fisting fuckers.

  • May 18, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST

    I truly enjoyed Indy 4. I think Shia is great too.

    by BilboRing

    I can understand some of the hate for Indy 4 but I loved it. The monkeys were lame but they did not take away from the movie. The aliens were a great story and perfect for the time the movie was set. The fridge nuke was funny and very Indy to me. Just as crazy as jumping out of a plane with an inflatable raft. And every other cray thing Indy does. Shia was great in the movie. He's charismatic and a good actor. Just my opinion. Transformers is shit and sucked balls so bad I never even saw the second movie. Nor will I ever. Bay can suck the sweat from a dead man's balls. He is one of the worst directors in history.

  • May 18, 2010, 9:57 a.m. CST

    tronknotts, Keeper Of Chimps & BilboRing - well

    by FamousEccles

    said, fellows, well said!!!

  • May 18, 2010, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Trannyformers_Apologist, you must be one dumb fuck

    by FamousEccles

    if you thought Transformers 2 was confusing. Utter shit, yes. Confusing, not a chance.

  • May 18, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Media Messiah, it is very ironic that you criticise

    by FamousEccles

    Indy 4 and then come up with an idea that even Asylum wouldn't put in a movie. You dickhead.

  • May 18, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Thomas Jane could reboot Indy

    by bishopfan85

    After seeing this guy in some really good and even not so good direct to dvd flicks, I truly believe that if he got the backing of Paramount, Spielberg and the nod from Harrison Ford Thomas Jane could take over Indy to the same acceptance that Zachary Quinto did for Spock (Han Solo as well). How is this on topic? Because I think Shia helped to admittedly show that there is no more juice in the current Indy franchise and it's time to put a couple of coins on its eyes and send it up river.

  • May 18, 2010, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Well...

    by Sprinky

    I wasn't against Shia but against the whole concept of Indy's son taking over the franchise or open a spin off. That thing didn't work with Young Indiana Jones and it sure didn't work in Chrystal Skull. They should've done the sequel a long time ago and with less input from Lucas (or David Koepp) who can contribute things but can't make a story gel together. That's more Steven's territory. If Shia wants a credible acting career...Quit transformers and look for directors that give a fuck about telling a story instead of zooming in on the boobs of Megan Fox.

  • May 18, 2010, 10:28 a.m. CST

    by AsimovLives

  • May 18, 2010, 10:31 a.m. CST

    dark tower adaptation

    by PunkLunchbox

    i can't help but think that shia could really pull off eddie. agree/disagree?

  • May 18, 2010, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Thomas Jane as Indy? You're kidding right.

    by darthvedder81

    This is why I can't take anything fanboys say seriously. Thomas Jane makes William Shatner look like Sir John Gielgud. His lurching performance in the supremely shitty "The Mist" still haunts me.

  • May 18, 2010, noon CST

    darthvedder81

    by bishopfan85

    It's easy enough to pick out his poorer performance in a low budget flick and use that to write him off but let's remember that even Harrison has a handful of stinkers that could easily be used against his running if they took place prior to being cast as Indy. Right now I see his career as being on track to upward movement to greater quality projects and his role in the HBO series Hung as well as his performance in movies like The Punisher and even Mutant Chronicles tells me that with a stronger team of writers, directors and casting he could potentially carry a franchise the size of Indiana Jones. I certainly would say at the least that he deserves to have his name thrown in the pot at the least. Not sure how you're seeing everyone else who posts on here as fanboys as if you wouldn't fit the same term with your own commentary but thankfully opinions are like you know what and we luckily get to share them on sites like this one. Thanks for sharing yours.

  • May 18, 2010, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Twinkie Pede

    by JackSlater4

    http://tinyurl.com/2dcody7

  • May 18, 2010, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Shat My Dad Says

    by Chief Joseph

    Hey AICN, SHIT just signed THE SHAT. Post this up! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100518/ap_en_tv/us_tv_cbs_new_season

  • May 18, 2010, 12:29 p.m. CST

    but...

    by cifra

    ... Crystal Skull just was as good and as bad as the other Indy sequels. Not more, and not less.

  • May 18, 2010, 12:30 p.m. CST

    He didn't mention his piss poor acting ability at all.

    by Smashing

    I will respect him when he accepts that snowballing lots of information onto an audience isn't good acting, it's merely unwanted information overload.

  • May 18, 2010, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Fridge didn't bother me...

    by SK229

    it's ridiculous, sure, but there were comparable things in the other movies, notably the raft in TOD... that never bothered me as a kid and the fridge doesn't bother me now. The monkey swinging and gophers did, though. I thought the whole set-up and the atom bomb thing (love that shot looking up at the mushroom cloud) were some of the best Indy stuff I've ever seen. I also love the chase at the college... there was great stuff in it, but you could see where Lucas had his paw prints on it and I can tell that Spielberg and Ford really tried when it felt like Indy and then phoned it in when it was stupid CGI shit. And I'm sorry, if you don't realize how fucking nuts Lucas has become with not listening to reason, I don't know WHAT the fuck will make you realize it unless Lucas publicly admits to making Indy do a drag routine ala Rocky Horror Picture Show in the next movie... something so horrific that nobody can say the guy isn't fucking nuts. I love Lucas, I think the man is a genius, but he doesn't know when his ideas are stupid anymore and won't listen to anyone telling him they are either. Again, WATCH KOTCS BEHIND THE SCENES... it's all laid out RIGHT THERE - the relationship between Spielberg, Lucas, and Ford leading up to actually making the movie and how Lucas WILL NOT LISTEN TO REASON and eventually Ford figured he could save the whole thing just by being Indy again and Spielberg then went along with Ford to get the movie off his back. Besides that, I think the alien stuff could have worked better if, like others have said, Indy did more to drive the plot forward or had more at stake in the movie. As it is, I don't think the aliens are the problem, I think with that locale and the 'natives' they could have gone Temple of Doom for the second half and really hit a homerun. Instead we got Mutt swinging from trees, weird psychic mind-meld shit sitting in a chair... the last place you want to put an iconic cinema hero in the latter half of your movie. They needed to give it some real stakes, as though THIS is the one time Indy might not make it through the fire... that would make it different and set it apart. Basically, from the point that Marion comes in going forward (did she forget how to fucking act?), the movie suffers greatly. Sucks, because I really do feel that it started out pitch-perfect and that Ford made me believe he was Indiana Jones again.

  • May 18, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST

    And it's nowhere near as bad as the prequels...

    by SK229

    thought I'd add that. The movie had some things going for it, a few great performances, and a sense that it could have been much better than it was... all things lacking in the prequels. A lot of it was just a problem with 'tone'... a shift here and there would have made KOTCS dramatically better.

  • May 18, 2010, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Thomas Jane can't do Indy justice..

    by Stalkeye

    ..he couldn't even portray a decent Punisher. (fucking Ray Stevenson owned that part in warzone.)He had his chance with pun and Mutant chronicles and they BOTH sucked!Stick to lame HBO comedies Jane, you are not worthy of filling Ford's shoes.

  • May 18, 2010, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Sad that Spielberg's last good movie was CATCH ME IF YOU CAN

    by SpyGuy

    And that was 2002. Spielberg is approaching a Decade of Suck so here's hoping he still has at least one or two good filsm still in him somewhere.

  • May 18, 2010, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Indy 4 is a good movie

    by theyreflockingthisway

    I honestly love it. It's my second favourite of the series after Raiders - and Raiders is one of my favourite films of all time. I just think a lot of fans are stuck in the past - anything made out of the 80's doesn't match up. We've just become old - looking back to the good old days with rose tinted spectacles. I know not many of you are going to agree with me, but I don't care. I got a lot of enjoyment out of Indy 4 and nothing anyone says will change that.

  • May 18, 2010, 1:19 p.m. CST

    The SW prequels were VASTLY superior to Indy IV

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    Yep, all of 'em, even Phantom Menace. They were ambitious and didn't try to rehash their predecessors. Unlike Crystal Skull, those films weren't botched because they were phoned-in, they were botched by Lucas' imcompetence. An ambitious failure is ALWAYS better than a disinterested cash-in.

  • May 18, 2010, 1:23 p.m. CST

    For the guy

    by amitech25

    that seems to think Thomas Jane could play Indy or even hold his own in a mammoth sized role like that. Wow you are a wet pussy fart who's brains have been replaced with vagina juice. "Did a decent job in Punisher?" Are you kidding?

  • May 18, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST

    That last comment

    by amitech25

    was for Bishopfan85

  • May 18, 2010, 2:18 p.m. CST

    ROTS better than Indy IV

    by RPLocke

    Suck that haters.

  • May 18, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Nope. I still don't respect that turd. What's the guarantee wort

    by Snake Foreskin

    Hopefully a chunk of Harry's fatback, personally autographed.

  • May 18, 2010, 2:41 p.m. CST

    DAMON AND CARLTON JUST APOLOGIZED FOR LOST

    by RPLocke

    They didn't want crazy fans to burn down their mansions.

  • May 18, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST

    The guy in Human Target would be better than...

    by Jaka

    ...Thomas Jane. My two cents, of course. But I can actually picture him in the outfit, with the hat. They look pretty similar, now that I think about it. Just like the presence of that guy more than Jane. Apologies - don't know his name and I'm being lazy.

  • May 18, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Mark Valley

    by Jaka

    That guy.

  • May 18, 2010, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Why did they change the "part time" line?

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    In the trailer it was like... <BR><BR> Shia: You're a teacher?? Indy: PART TIME!! <BR><BR> But then in the actual movie Indy is more like "...part time..."<BR> Why's they change it? I liked "PART TIME!!"

  • May 18, 2010, 5:58 p.m. CST

    WHAT???

    by FamousEccles

  • May 18, 2010, 11:02 p.m. CST

    yeah he was like "PART TIME!!"

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:03 p.m. CST

    that was better

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:04 p.m. CST

    they do that a lot in commercials

    by DarthBlart

    i think i remmber Blankman saying something diffeeent or in a different manor in the movie than how it was in the commercial and i got pissed and tore down the screen

  • May 18, 2010, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Shia Laboo neds to realize Steven Spilberg doesn just magically

    by DarthBlart

    it's a collaboration of many ideas, and forces, not written by him, but a guide line that he must stick to, set by producers who keep a watchful eye, and has to deal with day to day weather in hopiing to get the scenes he needs done properly, also having to rely on the actors living up to the expectations of the charactors described in the script and delivering the lines properly, then hoping the editors use the right scenes he likes and the studio heads don't come interfering making their own cuts and bla bla bla, but yeah shia , uncle steven "dropped the ball" on that one, fur sure, he didn't just do his best and, you know, shit happens, what you gonna do, whine about it, why??? it was 2 years ago? is it because you gonna be in wall street 2 and your appologizing in advance? oh ok.

  • May 18, 2010, 11:13 p.m. CST

    make movies

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST

    i liked Indiana 4ones

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:18 p.m. CST

    disturbia was garbage

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:19 p.m. CST

    Shia should try playing a villain

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:22 p.m. CST

    he was proibly just abngry cause his fingers got chopped off

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:22 p.m. CST

    i remember when my tooth hurt

    by DarthBlart

    i said some mean shit to my brother that i probably didn't maen

  • May 18, 2010, 11:23 p.m. CST

    maybe Shia could play a serial killer

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:24 p.m. CST

    i really could see him as a young Jack Ryan

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Shia labeurf is The Bear and the Dragon

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Is Charlie Sheen in Wall st 2?

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:28 p.m. CST

    cameo?

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:29 p.m. CST

    He should play a normal guy

    by DarthBlart

    who gets swooped up in to a world he didn't know existed and finds himeslf in a grand adventure,

  • May 18, 2010, 11:29 p.m. CST

    he should shave his head

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:30 p.m. CST

    a tv csi detective?

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones 5 is gonna be

    by DarthBlart

    Akwaaaard.

  • May 18, 2010, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Indy4

    by pr0g2west

    Arguing about indy 4 is like dancing about architecture, it gets us all nowhere. Half the people liked it, and half didnt. You can please all of the people some of the time, and you can please half of the people all of the time, but you cant please all of the people all of the time. Abraham Lincoln said that. I thought Indy 4 was great and you can all go suck it...I said that. Oh and btw SPYGUY, the last good movie Spielberg did was Munich, did you forget about that one or is your head up your ass too?

  • May 18, 2010, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Beard should just let Shia direct

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Indian Jones 4 is good

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Shia was fine in it

    by DarthBlart

    but his leather hat wasn't

  • May 18, 2010, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Shia Labeuf is Abraham Lincoln in

    by DarthBlart

    Abraham Lincoln

  • May 18, 2010, 11:36 p.m. CST

    was Shia spposed to be the Com,ic Relief in the movie

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:36 p.m. CST

    was Shia spposed to be the Com,ic Relief in the movie?

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:37 p.m. CST

    by DarthBlart

    like the jar jar?

  • May 18, 2010, 11:38 p.m. CST

    very awkward on the Indiana Jones 5 set

    by DarthBlart

    i can feel it

  • May 18, 2010, 11:43 p.m. CST

    macs flying death, ox's stupid dancing crazy act, marions soccer

    by DarthBlart

    stupid pctures of sean connery and maruc, looking cropped and zoomed, shia with a hat, only one fridge flying instead of all of them, fake quicksand scene very tv sitcom set-like, they had to of noticed, the begnning was bad ass though, the town was awesome, the russian bitch was hot in one movie i saw, the ant were cooler than the other script with the giant insects, the ending ufo was rad

  • May 18, 2010, 11:44 p.m. CST

    and for the talkbackers who complain about the cgi monkeys and g

    by DarthBlart

    don't forget about the cgi scorpions

  • May 18, 2010, 11:45 p.m. CST

    which i didn't even notice were fake til i came to these talkbac

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:46 p.m. CST

    ophers

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:47 p.m. CST

    soccer-mommage

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:48 p.m. CST

    shia labeu is freddy krueger

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:49 p.m. CST

    shia labeurf is a robot

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:50 p.m. CST

    shia leabeuf is luigi

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:51 p.m. CST

    shia labeuf is starman in the starman remake

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:51 p.m. CST

    shai labeuf is a real life ghostbuster

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:52 p.m. CST

    shia labeuf is the talkbacker

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:52 p.m. CST

    he should pull a deniro

    by DarthBlart

    and play harry knowles

  • May 18, 2010, 11:53 p.m. CST

    shia labeuf is manaquin III

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:54 p.m. CST

    guarenteed

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:54 p.m. CST

    shai albeuf is the respect gainer

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:55 p.m. CST

    albeuf

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:56 p.m. CST

    shia labeuf is the island on lost

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:56 p.m. CST

    shia labeuf is the island on lost

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:56 p.m. CST

    sorry double post

    by DarthBlart

  • May 18, 2010, 11:57 p.m. CST

    shia

    by DarthBlart

  • May 19, 2010, 1:23 a.m. CST

    You are only apologizing for your double-post?

    by Jaka

    That's fucked up, yo.

  • May 19, 2010, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Respect to Shia for being honest. Wasn't his fault though

    by Mr Nicholas

    Indy 4 and Transformers 2 were disappointing. He did the best he could, but he was just a passenger on a dodgy ship.

  • May 19, 2010, 4:43 a.m. CST

    Mr Nicholas, don't be fooled. He is just looking to

    by FamousEccles

    stir up publicity for Wall Street 2 he knows Spielberg and Lucas don't give a rat's ass because if they want Mutt back, he'll be back.Indy 4 made it money. LaBeouf mouthing off won't affect future DVD sales. In fact, you can e sure that a few people who read or hear about this have the idea to buy it planted in their noggin.

  • May 19, 2010, 8:40 a.m. CST

    So, Shia can recognize the patently obvious. So?!

    by Royston Lodge

    Respect me. At least I KNOW I suck.<p> Fuck that.

  • May 19, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST

    pr0g2west

    by BoopyBeepy

    Nice Bob Dylan impression asshole.

  • May 19, 2010, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Why should I respect Shia

    by Shaner Jedi

    when he read the scripts, took the paychecks, and is only NOW starting to bag on movies many, many others have bagged on? What is so HONEST about that? Sounds very desperate to be honest.

  • May 19, 2010, 4:24 p.m. CST

    I somehow thing this column didn't go exactly...

    by Jaka

    ...how Quint expected it to go. Heh.

  • May 19, 2010, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Megan Fox is out of the TF3 sequel

    by ominus

    hahahaha,its shia turn now with Indy 5: <p>http://bit.ly/bXYGQs

  • May 19, 2010, 10:33 p.m. CST

    it's not Shi baby fault

    by BEYONDTHUNDERDOME2GIRLS1CUPBILLCOSBY

  • May 19, 2010, 10:33 p.m. CST

    it's not Shi baby's fault

    by BEYONDTHUNDERDOME2GIRLS1CUPBILLCOSBY

  • May 19, 2010, 10:37 p.m. CST

    I bet he never even had to audition

    by BEYONDTHUNDERDOME2GIRLS1CUPBILLCOSBY

    Steve called him up.