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‘Today Is The Day For Which You Were Created!!’ Nimoy’s Back Tonight For Penultimate FRINGE!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
I am – Hercules!!
Last week Peter Bishop met the better-coiffed Walternate, who may or may not be U.S. Secretary of Vengeance in the alternate universe Peter was stolen from.
Over the next two episodes we’re not only going to be meeting Ginger Olivia Dunham and Bald Charlie Francis and T-shirt William Broyles, we’re going to meet Young William Bell.
“We will get some information in [the season finale] episode about the William Bell on this side, the younger William Bell on this side,” Leonard Nimoy told SciFi Wire.
Nimoy also tells the site the two-part season finale, which starts tonight, is finally giving him a lot more to do. His schedule: “A total of three or four days this week, and then I come back for another three or four days. ... Much more involvement than in the past, yeah.”
Fox says of tonight’s “Over There: Part One”:
In part one of the two-part, two-night second season finale, Walter and Olivia travel to the parallel universe, and the anticipated face-off between Walter Bishop and William Bell occurs. Guest Cast: Ari Graynor as Rachel Dunham; David Call as Nick Lane; Pascale Hutton as Sally Clark; Omar Metwally as James Heath; Lily Pilblad as Ella Blake; Philip Winchester as Frank Stanton; Seth Gabel as Lincoln Lee; Orla Brady as Elizabeth Bishop; Leonard Nimoy as William Bell; Ryan James McDonald as Brandon.
Fox says of next Thursday’s second-season finale, “Over There: Part Two”:
In the second part of the two-part season finale, sacrifices will be made and both universes may never be the same again after Walter and Olivia visit the "other side." Guest Cast: Leonard Nimoy as William Bell.
“Fringe” was long ago renewed for a third season.
9 p.m. Thursday. Fox.
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Booya
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En Fuego
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Unrelenting
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cant wait!
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kudos and here's to those of us who saw its potential from the beginning.
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I hope he does more work in this show!
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The best show on TV by far!
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PLEASE! knowing Nimoy is in this episode ahead of time kinda spoils things..
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it was mostly a standalone story except.........
at the end of the ep, Peter encounters Walternate ( who is referred to as Mr. Secretary by Newton). -
to sniff Olivia's farts
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A lame "coincidence" standalone or a genius mythology ep beginning to build Peters "powers". No one has figured it out yet.
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was the Twin Peaks/X-Files homage episode in which runaway Peter met a rural sheriff played my Martha Plimpton and helped her solve a mysterious string of killings that didn't involve the Fringe mythos the way Peter thought it would when he became involved. He did contact Broyles and asked him not to tell Olivia and Walter where he was.
It was a mostly Non-Olivia episode, as some of this seasons best episodes have been. Oddly enough.
There was a touching Walter scene in which he had an emotional break-down in a supermarket while trying to prove he can take care of himself without Peter's help and began ranting about an ingredient n toaster pastries being "delicious strawberry flavored death."
Right at the end Peter encountered Walternate, who greeted him with an ominous "Hello, son."
The week before was the musical that series as a metaphor for the series; Walter got stoned on Brown Betty, a cannabis hybrid of his own breeding, and told Olivia's niece a story he made up on the spot, drawing from his subconscious concern over the shows current status quo.
I'm just glad they're giving Nimoy a big role in this as well as introducing a younger "alternate world" William Bell to replace him. If the man's going to retire after a career like his, he ought to go out doing something epic.
I just hope he doesn't die telling Walter "I am now and have always been... your friend..." -
That should catch me up nicely. I think Olivia is kinda dull myself. I'd LOVE it if it was just the Bishops.
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and hold it in like a bong.Top show.
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She is an FBI agent, you could probably say the same thing about Scully. She wasn't reserved and laid back? She could have been gang raped by aliens for most of the first 4 seasons and she still would have said "there is a scientific explanation for this all MULDER!"
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Fringe is my new favourite show. There appears to be a much more defined story arc.
I love Lost but last night I think the writers shot themselves in the foot. -
talkback? Finale and stuff? I mean seriously, two separate posts for Office and Parks and Rec? I will also be enjoying Fringe tonight. Too bad last week king of sucked besides the Walter freak out and the end of the ep. Plimpton can't act her way out of a paper bag.
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Who wants Walter and Astrid to hook up, however wrong that may be. That's where I draw the relationship tension from in Fringe, anyway.
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Ha. I was joking with my wife last week about the same thing.
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I thought Nimoy retired from acting? Am I imagining that? There's no mention of it either here or in the linked article, at least none that I noticed. He even says when Abhrams calls he has to take it...
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcHYzMyGzbM
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Smaller link... http://tinyurl.com/24bzv95
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he stated elsewhere that the FRINGE season finale was his personal finale.
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...of whatever never-explained reason why the Earth 1 DC heroes were younger than their Earth 2 counterparts? Or are they just gonna have another flashback to the 80's and CGI de-wrinkle Nimoy?
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I didn't see Kirk Acevedo listed in the guest names. It would make sense that he alive on the alt-world since it was an alt-world shape shifter that killed this world's Charlie.
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Will he be played by the actor from the Star Trek movie or get someone that is ten times better?
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looks HOT ! MRRROOOWWWRR !
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with a device cobbled together from a couple AAA's, a Pez dispenser, 6.372 inches of 22 gauge wire, the crystal from a 1960's radio shack radio tuner kit, a f sharp tuning fork,, exactly precisely 1/3rd oz of mercury, 4 medium rubber bands, 2 large paper clips, and 18 inches of scotch tape.
Walternate may be a bad dewd and be able to cross universes
But Walter did that over 20 years ago and sometimes he remembers who he was -
I got the impression in last years "The Road not taken" that Olivia's power to view the other reality was because she was able to shift her consciousness to her alternate self. Since multiple times she talks to Charlie and Broyles in the alternate reality but AS Olivia(remember when she goes into broyles office and shows charlie the picture of the dead burned girl). I'm apparently wrong but can anyone tell me where I got off track or what I missed? I thought that was clear....I don't care that I'm wrong but how'd I get the wrong idea?
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now that Heroes was cancelled, his schedule should be clear.
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make my brain grow a clit, is going to tongue swab that clit, and is going to make my cerebral cortex squirt. Yes - it looks that good. And 1984-esque alternate universe looks fucking fabulous.
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For god sake, whatever happened to not giving away the appearance of major characters in the headline on the AICN home page? How about not telling us what other characters we're meeting next in the episode summary? Whatever happened to inviso-text, Herc?
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He's Walter, not MacGuyver.
I love Walter's brief recapturings of his former self - like that episode where Peter was trapped in the contaminated building:
Disease Expert: "I have extensive experience dealing with pathogens"
Walter: "And *I* was *chairman of biochemistry at **Harvard*** (you underqualified, intellectually inferior twit!), and have little patience for..." -
have you seen some of the things he's pulled out of his hat
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They had him in the preview for this episode. Kinda pissed me off. He should have been a surprise. Its a 3 shot of him, brown hair Olivia, and some dude. BTW, brown hair, altalivia is hot. She has a sexiness about her.
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You can see altacharlie. He's the skin head on the right.
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Join the club. Supernatural, one of the best-written shows around, has no talkback. I'm pretty sure it's because the AICN guys are just spiteful because they weren't watching it from the beginning.
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I thought alt-Olivia was a redhead, not a brunette.
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It has something to do with V being terrible, and Fringe not being terrible...remember yet?
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May 13, 2010 2:48:35 PM CDT
I Have No Problem With AICN Posting a Preview With Spoilers...
by real deal
and look forward to this episode with great anticipation! Sorry but I just get tired of all the complaining. I'm just glad there's a site like this!
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as if david milch and lynch decided to take over.
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I know there aren't a lot of words you can use in place of "penultimate," but right now, you've got three successive stories using the word in the title. It's sort of annoying. Like when someone told Victoria Jackson that "prescient" meant "prophet" and she couldn't stop using the word for like a month and a half.
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Sorry, I didn't see you had already bitched about "penultimate" before I chimed in.
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I was about 6 episodes behind until watching a bunch of episodes this week. Other than the musical, which I could only stomach for about 5 minutes, they've really improved drastically.
I never liked Peter Bishop but they've tamed him down a LOT and he's actually likeable. I'll miss the live showing tonight to watch the Supernatural finale but I'm looking forward to watching Fringe later. -
Plus, it's always fun to act like I misunderstand people and act like I think their watching Friends. Ahhahahahahah, comedy gold. Not really. I like the show though. French benefits.
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that's not disturbing at all
no, no, nope, nope
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Gnarly
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So does otherverse Olivia emote?
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probably because it's focusing on the meta story. Two best things about tonights episode: (1) Broyles Laughing ... just creepy and (2) red head giggly Olivia. I was so hoping that they were going have boring blond Olivia march right up to that door and demand a threesome with her redhead alternate self and the dude. THAT would have been fantastic.
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I really dug it. It's nice to have a show where I care about the characters. I was like that about Lost a while back, but now my Tuesday nights are spent merely wondering how it's all going to end, instead of wondering what's going to happen to the fictional people I've become emotionally invested in. lol Like Walter Bishop. One of my all time favourite television characters ever. But anyway, yeah. I dug tonight's episode. It was great.
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hawt
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it's nice that fringe still can still give me a warm hug.
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it's nice that fringe still can still give me a warm hug.
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that i dont even apologize for the double post.
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It was an ok episode. It's cool they're giving us a little adventure on the other side but the first half of the episode felt like they just threw 6 episodes worth of surprise exposition at us with all these unfrozen retrained psi-ops guys. I could have done without that. Initially I assumed these three mew-tants were brought in for cool super power battles, but I gave them a pass once I noticed that their combined abilities covered the spectrum involving transporting a human between universes. Energy, bio-matter and emotion. Maybe this specific combination of abilities was required to induce a tech-free transportation between the universes. Also, the thing with Walter being shot felt a bit off. Generally Walter's crises work best when they are based in empathy, rather than him being shot by ginger swat team members from the 4th dimension.
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The writers and actors aren't up to snuff to sell an "Alternate" universe very well. But it wasn't bad.
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I'm seriously blown away at how fucking awesome FRINGE has become in the last few months. Numb. After the huge letdown that has bee LOST, this is something to be excited about! FUCK YEAH!
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May 14, 2010 12:21:34 AM CDT
Walternate militarized the whole alterverse because of Walter
by zillabeast
Amazing, and polarizing. They have every right to think we are evil warmongers, and to build a machine meant to end our universe once and for all.
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were all about creating a team of mutant super-heroes? Umm, cool.
Nimoys cameo tonight did not take him four days to film unless he's very frail. Hopefully that means lots of Bell next time.
I created a pyrotic superheroine named Hottie a few years ago with the intent of showing that there's virtually no non-horrifically-violent use for fire based powers like the Human Torchs. I think they made that point extremely clear tonight with Firestarter girl.
It also served to show that thought the Alterverse may be totalitarian (Please show ID) it does have remarkably advanced medicine. ("He's charred over 93% of his body - yeah, he'll be okay in a few weeks.")
Actually, Zillabeast, I think that's a bit of an over-reaction. "One person from Dimension X is a kidnapper, so let's plan a way to destroy their world."
So when do the Double-F Fringe Division t-shirts hit the stores?
Speaking of which, how much money did they save on costume budgeting by giving two major characters black t-shirts to wear?
Uh, thanx for a Fringe talkback, but it gets pushed off the front page by two NBC sitcoms and CBS reality show talkbacks on the day the show airs and buried in Coaxial? Why? didn't AICN used to have sci-fi geek priorities? -
Not as catchy as Frank Burns Eats Worms
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was caused by Walternate trying to find a way into Walter's Universe or by Bell continually crossing over.
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Why isn't this talk back longer. This show needs more love.
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Like Martin Luther King Jr. being on the 20, and these guys not even KNOWING who Andrew Jackson is!
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The ad for The West Wing, season 11, which must have gotten so shitty, it now airs Sundays at 5. GREAT stuff.
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Vikki I think you're right, and Walternate's motivation for destroying our side not only comes from Peter's abduction, but from the fear that continued incursions will eventually tear apart the fabric of space and time and cannot be allowed to continue. Seems like a rather serious problem for them over in the Alterverse.
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...how cooool is that? LOVIN' IT!
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Don't see how anyone can call that an average episode. Can't wait to see how this season finishes.
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everything right that Heroes did wrong. Great episode, but I was a little disappointed that they killed off the cortexaphen kids before showing them really work together. I thought this was the beginning of a super Fringe team, and the mind reader was going to be like the Wolverine of the bunch.
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Not to be disagreeable with a fellow FringeFan, Sith, but I was kinda relieved that Telepath Lad turned into Tumorgator. Having a mind-controler so powerful he could make a Broyles laugh and having him hate Walter so much just made me really uncomfortable.
Zilla, I really hadn't thought of it that way, but yeah, the significant difference between the two realities is that over they they had the 18 years or whatever of Walter's intellect and his influence that our side missed by having him institutionalized.
To drag in another Legion of superheroes comparison (And I was never really a LSH fan) but The Fringe Division is like Science Police. Walternate as Secretary of Defense? That would be like if we made, oh, name one. Like if we turned the government over to Carl Sagan or Stephen Hawking or Werner Von Braun.
Or like if the world put Science vs. Religion to a vote and logic won. Makes sense that Spock would want to live there.
I kinda prefer the single episode format. Even when it's an advancing the mythology show with cliffhangers, at least Fringe usually delivers a beginning/middle/end story. I hope they don't start doing a lot of Two-parters or Arcs.
Still, for something this big. Well, okay, I guess. I can't wait for next week. Fringe is really matching Lost on the anticipation level.
And on a minor trivia note, how ironic they unveiled their Alterverse Fringe Division "FF" logo just as that other F/F show, FlashForward, got it's plug pulled. Too bad about that, I enjoyed it. Weird that ABC axed F/F but stuck with V.
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the front page. Great episode, can't wait for this and Lost next week.
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Was it just me did I see Leonard Nimoy taking cover behind a corner, getting shot out in the preview for next week? I'm betting he goes out in a blaze of glory, stopping Walternate from taking us all out. The first battle of the war to come next season.
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While I agree it was not the strongest episode this season in the meta storyline, it was intriguing to say the least...very 'mirror universe' a la old Star Trek Very happy fox has renewed it for another season - its a great show and deserves a bigger following - any writers that throw in Antonio Gaudi's unbuilt The Grand Hotel proposal is aces in my books!
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While I enjoyed the idea of Andrew Jackson never existing, there would not be a USA today had he not existed. Without Jackson, the USA would've lost the War of 1812 and ceased to exist through re-incorporation into the British Empire. The US Civil War would've then never happened because the British Empire abolished slavery in the 1830s. Without a Jackson Presidency, the Trail of Tears would've never happened so the Cherokee would still own most of Georgia today. However, in the Walterverse, it is interesting to see that Nixon apparently won the 1960 election - as he should have - and apparently was assassinated instead of Kennedy based upon the coin they showed. It also appears that John McCain is the President based upon the "West Wing" poster displayed at the bus stop. It also seems like "Fringe" is heavily riffing off the alt.universe from "Doctor Who" Series 2-4 with the blimps and the environmental damage caused by travel between the universes. The Fringe Division in the Walterverse seems to be like Torchwood from "Doctor Who" Series 2. Of course there are slight differences... the shapeshifter soldiers are controlled by the Walterverse US government and not trying to topple it say like the Cybusmen/Cybermen against the Peoples Republic of Great Britain in the DocWho alt.universe.
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May 17, 2010 12:01:42 PM CDT
Going into the third year of a mostly serialized show..
by boogalooshrimp
and it feels like we're just getting to the main plot. A fantastic achievement. The shiny copper statue of liberty did it for me, what a memorable show!
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So someone else ( less notible ) or some other thing took Jacksons place. History is a very complicated thing. Just because one man didn't exist doesn't mean there wasn't someone or something in his place. As far as McCain goes last year they saw a headline that said the Obama's were ready to move into the new Whitehouse. I'll have to look closely at that poster again.
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