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Surprise Surprise - Jane Goldman scripting Matthew Vaughn's X-MEN: FIRST CLASS!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. There have been sly mentions from one Mr. Jonathan Ross via his Twitter feed that his lovely wife Jane Goldman was going to be doing some writing for Matthew Vaughn's X-Men prequel thing pretty much since right before Vaughn was locked in. Now he's gone right out and said it. Look:
Also, for those who need to know, my wife IS currently writing X men First Class. It's just referred to as X men 4 around the house...
Followed closely by:
I am afraid I better not answer any more queries re X Men First Class for fear of spoilers and also possible divorce. Thank you.
Ms. Goldman herself has been dead silent (her twitter feed is here, but it hasn't been updated since April 1st). This shouldn't be much of a surprise since Vaughn has worked with Goldman for his last few movies... But let's look at what this news means. At the very least we're looking at a heavy polish if not a complete original script from Vaughn and Goldman and that hopefully means we won't get the half-baked homogenized studio shit that ended up being X-Men 3. That also leads me to believe that Vaughn might have a bit more creative control than is usual with Fox superhero movies considering he accepted this position even with his rocky past with Fox (with this same franchise, no less). God willing it's still possible for a good filmmaker to make a good tentpole at Fox. Right now your name has to be James Cameron and you have to be the meanest motherfucker in the room (with a couple billion dollar earners under your belt) to be afforded that privilege. -Quint Follow Me On Twitter

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  • May 11, 2010, 4:43 a.m. CST

    But are the adventures of young Magneto and-

    by Mr. Profit

    Professor X something people want to see? I think people really just want to see a proper X-Men film where they all kick ass in their own right and don't heavily rely on Wolverine to save the day. <P>It was like watching The Power Rangers ("We need Tommy!")... The X-Men were seemingly incapable of doing shit without calling on Wolverine.

  • May 11, 2010, 4:46 a.m. CST

    9/11 was an inside job


  • May 11, 2010, 4:48 a.m. CST


    by Quint

    I'm not sold on it, either, but the creative minds working on it have earned some trust. We'll see how long Vaughn and Goldman's leashes are. Long enough to let them make a good movie would be good, but I don't trust the hand on the other end of the leash. Okay, I'm done with that metaphor.

  • May 11, 2010, 4:49 a.m. CST

    Ambivalence: The Adventures Of A Ruined Franchise

    by LaserPants

    So not even remotely interested in this. XMen comix have sucked for years, and Fox went out of their way to rape their collective corpse. It's done. Let it go.

  • May 11, 2010, 4:49 a.m. CST

    Always liked Stan Lee & Jack Kirby's run...

    by Master Bruce

    on THE UNCANNY'll be interesting to see how much, if any of that, makes it to the screen. Still, sounds like the film has got half a chance w/a good writer/director all we have to worry about is the budget & casting. And P.S., if it's early days, no Wolverine...does Fox realize that?

  • May 11, 2010, 4:53 a.m. CST

    But who is the team?!

    by DOGSOUP

    Cyclops, Beast, Jean Grey, and...

  • May 11, 2010, 4:57 a.m. CST

    No it won't.

    by V'Shael

    Look, call me a cynic, but Fox has butt fucked us all too often to just let this slide. <p> They will most likely fire Matthew before too long, and scrap whatever script little miss kick ass puts together. <p> Then they will rush out a homogenous piece of shite under a marketing blitz. <p> That's how Fox operates.

  • May 11, 2010, 4:59 a.m. CST

    8TH and 9/11 WAS an inside job

    by robertplant

    nuff said.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:01 a.m. CST

    Fox will force wolverine in this somehow

    by TheManWhoCan

    A subtly as hammering a square peg in a round hole further messing with the continuity. Vaughn will walk away from this one as well mark my words! I hope he does! He has had a great run of movies and this is a blunder waiting to happen.<br> Fuck Fox!!

  • May 11, 2010, 5:03 a.m. CST


    by Scalvador

    was definately an inside job.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:03 a.m. CST

    Do it all motion capture and call it

    by gotilk

    The Uncanny Valley X-Men!

  • May 11, 2010, 5:03 a.m. CST

    I ain't done with that metaphor!

    by gingerella

    The fact they're on leashes at all means they are being taken for a walk by Fox which means...They'll shit the script out...and it won't be Murdoch who has to pick it up, it'll be....erm...The audience! We'll have to pick it up! Without a poop bag! We'll step in it. Shit. I'm also done with this metaphor.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:04 a.m. CST


    by TheManWhoCan

    well said.<br>

  • May 11, 2010, 5:10 a.m. CST

    Jonathan Woss...Wibbley Wobbiey

    by TheManWhoCan

    "I am afwaid I bettew not answeu any more quewies we X Men First Class fou feau of spowlers and also possiblu diworce. Tuank woo."

  • May 11, 2010, 5:13 a.m. CST

    That means more Jane Goldman at Premieres

    by penhapus

    which means more big bosomy cleavage-tastic dresses - hurrah! I'm sure the script will be quite too, of course.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:13 a.m. CST

    File this under crap

    by kwisatzhaderach

  • May 11, 2010, 5:13 a.m. CST


    by Tomarru

    I was only ever looking forward to a sentinels storyline, we got a very brief glimpse at how awesome it would be. Instead of going that route they're heading backwards.<p> I still don't quite get this, the franchise needs an out and out reboot, which is a shame as some of the casting was awesome (xavier and magneto, so perfect). The problem is, they have made it so glitzy, so zoolander in style, and even less in substance. It totally lost it's way, the action is so cartoony that the reference to power rangers above is just about perfect. Then theres the fact they screwed up so many plotlines and characters, the whole phoenix storyline felt tacked on rather than the feature it should have been. <p> This just feels like another lame attempt to try and keep the same franchise going without doing whats nescessary. It was the same thing with the whole origins idea. Just bite the bullet and do it already. <p> The talent they have brought on board DOES bring some hope, it's just everything else about it, prior experience with the franchise and the studio, the direction they want to take it just makes me cringe.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:14 a.m. CST

    Michael Fassbender for Magneto

    by Box_Bruceleitner

    Make it happen.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:16 a.m. CST


    by Xiphos_2

  • May 11, 2010, 5:24 a.m. CST

    I don't see watching an X-Men movie without Wolverine

    by JuanSanchez

    Even if he's been made into a pussy.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:24 a.m. CST

    Where Will This One Go?

    by Berone_Sunrise

    Got to wonder what's the logic behind this. If Fox are totally ignoring the comic continuity they'll shoehorn in the obvious members of the team, much like the first X-Men was an amalgam of X-Men from across 3 decades. My hope was they'd go for a New Mutants film, back as it was in the early 80's when they all lived in the mansion (as per X2) and trained together in the Danger Room working towards full membership as an X-Man. But, guess we'll have to ignore any kind of continuity. That said, Kick Ass kicked arse and Vaughan, Goldman and her magnificent upholstery should deliver a top drawer action flick with some large degree of heart...well, if Fox stay well out of it. Oh why oh why are licensing deals so crap? In a perfect world we'd be working towards a Secret Wars film, not just an Avengers flick.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:25 a.m. CST

    This will be Mutants 90210

    by umbral_shadow_

    I.e pretty young things with their teenage issues who are forced to "grow up" and use their powers to save the day HURRAH! And of course they will shoehorn a young Wolvie in just to shit on continuity because they can. Anyone getting excited about have my sympathy.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:27 a.m. CST

    Ross, you're a true comics fan

    by Star Hump

    With all due respect, please tell your wife to honor the original 5 X-Men that Stan Lee and Jack Kirby laid out in 1963. And have her be mindful of the world created around those characters.<p> Magneto as an evil, militant mutant, his Brotherhood, Xavier's Cerebro, the Danger Room, etc.<p> And above all (as a saavy Talkbacker mentioned a week or 2 earlier), make them THE STRANGEST TEENS OF ALL! Ease back a little on the whole "they hate us because us we're different" motif. Easy on the allegory.<p> Ensure that Cyclops is the tormented yet ultra-cool and totally committed leader of the group. Tell her, please, not to short change Cyclops no matter what she does. He never got a chance to shine in the Singer films.<p> Get the X-Men right. For the first time, get it right. It's a wonderful property, a wonderful concept, and it deserves the very best screenplay.<p> NO WOLVERINE for fuck's sake.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:31 a.m. CST

    When will the film be set?

    by Wookie_Weed

    If it's about young Magneto & Xavier meeting and developing their friendship, then it'll be 1950s/60s right? Which means Cold War/Vietnam, and I get a Watchmen vibe.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:32 a.m. CST


    by TehCreepyThinMan

    However, I would have prefered if she and Vaughn were doing the next Bond movie.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:33 a.m. CST


    by TehCreepyThinMan

  • May 11, 2010, 5:40 a.m. CST

    Good one quint

    by Phategod2

    "The meanest motherfucker in the room"

  • May 11, 2010, 5:43 a.m. CST

    I'm not sure Is Goldmans looks like the

    by Phategod2

    Ultimate porn star or Convention show cos-player.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:52 a.m. CST


    by btvs2000

    AND BISHOp, CABLE, SINISTER ETC BASICALLY JUST REMAKE THE CARTOON EPISODEl: ""Beyond Good and Evil: The End of Time".... this is the ultimate comic movie. It would own the avengers + avatar + any other film, together!

  • May 11, 2010, 5:58 a.m. CST

    Stephen Lang for magneto

    by Phategod2

  • May 11, 2010, 5:58 a.m. CST

    No fucking time travel bullshit

    by Star Hump

    It all went downhill after "Days of Future Past." Phoenix 2? Garbage. Cable? Garbage. Bishop? Garbage.<p> Gambit blows too. And fucka buncha Mr. Sinister. He's right down there with Arcade as one of the all-time shittiest X-Men villains.

  • May 11, 2010, 6:03 a.m. CST

    This much I know.

    by Mr Gorilla

    Bryan Singer's move from the brilliant X2 to the turgid SUPERMAN RETURNS and the dead-in-the-water VALKYRIE may be something his career never recovers from. X3: THE LAST STAND and WOLVERINE may be something the X-Men brand never recovers from. BUT - Matthew Vaughan is a PRODUCER as well as a director, so he has probably laid down some laws at FOX to stop them fucking with this project.

  • May 11, 2010, 6:08 a.m. CST

    This won't be Kick Ass

    by biscuithead

    Too much money involved therefore too many suits therefore watered-down mass market crap every time. End of story.

  • May 11, 2010, 6:13 a.m. CST

    i wish more conspiracy nuts had been in the twin towers.

    by RedHorseVector

  • May 11, 2010, 6:15 a.m. CST

    Ummm, Avatar was pretty heavily compromised

    by IndustryKiller!

    So you can take Cmaerons name off that list too, as Avatar is really just a big stupid summer action flick that came out in December, and expensive one, but that's what it is. This film will suck.

  • May 11, 2010, 6:32 a.m. CST

    here is my er stance on 9/11..

    by emeraldboy

    I dont call the aftermath the war on terror. I call it the war on democracy. 9/11 has been used by foreign govts especially the russian to perpertrate war crimes on thier own people. Chechenya is horrible place, impovrished and backward, they have generational grievences with moscow, which are too long to go into here. putin declared war on the people of chechenya and sent in the russian airforce to bomb chechenya and used the war on terror as an excuse and did so every time the chechen militants bombed moscow. the real reason that america invaded in iraq under bush was that bush could shred parts of the american constitution while saying look we are doing this to prevent the terrorist attacking maerica again. but america has never had a major drill since to prepare. out going uk PM brown has never fully explained the statement "we are fighting the war in afghanistan to make britain secure" is britian not secure, is britain not safe? brown has never answered these questions.

  • May 11, 2010, 6:36 a.m. CST

    x men 3 was a inside job.....

    by ORIONgods

    ps this film will suck

  • May 11, 2010, 6:44 a.m. CST

    This will be a reboot project, like the next Spider-man

    by Chewtoy

    This isn't a continuation or a prequel at this point. I'll put money on the rumor that this is a restart of the franchise altogether, casting cheaper actors in existing roles. Yes, it will still focus on the beginnings of the school and all, but I expect it to break from continuity established in the current films. (And that puts the possibility of Wolverine being involved back on the table.) It'll be teen-centric, just like the new Spider-man. I'd also look for Magneto's brotherhood to include Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch, unfortunately. They'll never be part of an Avengers movie at least... Kevin Fiege has confirmed that Fox owns all mutants across the Marvel line.

  • May 11, 2010, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Why the fuck are we talking about 9/11 on here??

    by Arturo

    Talk about the issue on hand man, talk about movies...

  • May 11, 2010, 6:51 a.m. CST

    Avatar COULD have been very good

    by umbral_shadow_

    If the characters weren't all one note cardboard cut outs. Greedy Humans boo hiss! Peaceful Na'Vi yay! Nolan proved with TDK you CAN do something past the obvious and still make a billion dollar earner. Nolan also has a major studio eating out of the palm of his hand but he did it by making films that don't insult your intelligence. I haven't read the original Avatar scriptment from '95 so I don't know how much the film deviates from what Cameron originally intended, but I'm guessing there was quite a bit of studio interference because Cameron is too smart for dreck like that.

  • May 11, 2010, 6:57 a.m. CST

    Colour me intrigued.

    by Duke_Whittington

    Never read many of the comics but enjoyed the first film, and really enjoyed the second one. Third film, for me, was okay, but a missed opportunity - it felt more like it was pandering to the leads than building on the story built up in the previous two films. Hoping Vaughn and Goldman can do something special, and possibly bring Mark Strong on board as a young Xavier!

  • May 11, 2010, 7:04 a.m. CST

    Will Fox pretend that the Ratner's movie never existed?

    by AsimovLives

    Because i do. The Ratboy's movie never existed in my mind, it's not an X-Men movie, and i don't include it in the ongoing X-Men film saga.

  • May 11, 2010, 7:07 a.m. CST

    Still haven't seen KICK ASS...

    by blackwood

    but I really, really, really love STARDUST. Distressingly underrated spiritual successor to PRINCESS BRIDE. I think Vaughn is a good filmmaker that is a bit wasted on X-MEN. Loved the second film, liked the first, tolerated the third, watched WOLVERINE despite myself. I dunno, I just can't get excited for this rehashing. X and Magneto in Mutant Babies. Meh.

  • May 11, 2010, 7:11 a.m. CST

    If they reboot X-Men...

    by my liege

    ...does Wolverine get rebooted by association? How does that affect the Deadpool movie? NONE of these superhero films need rebooting. Just get new creative teams in, recast, and only ever vaguely reference what came before.

  • May 11, 2010, 7:15 a.m. CST

    Umm, yeah, like that worked so well with Superman

    by ATARI

  • May 11, 2010, 7:16 a.m. CST

    We'll always have X-Men United....

    by knowthyself


  • May 11, 2010, 7:19 a.m. CST


    by my liege

    I meant modern superhero films. In the last few years we've had 2 Punisher movies and 2 Hulk movies, with neither of the 2nd movies having anything to do with the 1st. It's insane.

  • May 11, 2010, 7:24 a.m. CST


    by AsimovIsFuckingDead

    This assfuckery has no place in modern cinema. I did enjoy Vaugnnn's Kick My Ass movie but it was not anywhere near as geekry-pleasing as TDK which was THE REAL DEAL.<p>IN NOLAN WE TRUST

  • May 11, 2010, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Singer ruined the X-Men franchise.

    by parissun

    He made it a gay Wolverine love story in X-Men 2. I just want to whole franchise rebooted. I would rather it be called the New Mutants. But barring that, let's focus on the kids. The X-Men story should be about the kids, not Prof. X, an old Magneto or Wolverine. They could act like the other X movies never existed or they could have Bishop come back and change things ala the Star Trek reboot. Stay with a small five man team including Cyclops, Jean Grey and Ice Man. Beast and Angel just don't translate to the movies well for me. I'd replace them with Colossus and Storm.

  • May 11, 2010, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Is it just me?

    by Duke_Whittington

    Or since The Dark Knight and Marvel taking control of their own film production Fox and Columbia have started panicking about their comic book franchises? Spider-man and X-Men sequels are flying about all over the shop, before resorting to the alarming trend of the reboot - if in doubt, don't try to fix it...just start all over again. The comic to film library is becoming very messy indeed.

  • May 11, 2010, 7:36 a.m. CST

    All I want to see...

    by elsewhere

    Is the X-MEN in their comic book costumes kicking ass.<p>Holy shit is that too much to ask for?

  • May 11, 2010, 7:41 a.m. CST

    It is a surprise, especially when...

    by Baltar5

    ...the Thor guys are supposed to be having a crack at it:

  • May 11, 2010, 7:49 a.m. CST

    @Baltar5 - Matthew probably doesn't even know

    by V'Shael

    that they're working on it.<br /><br />This is exactly the sort of shit that I was talking about. Matthew thinks he's got Jane working on a script. Fox get some other people working on a script. Fox doesn't tell Matthew what they've done. Notice in the interview how it says they haven't even spoken to Matthew yet?<br /><br />This is one giant clusterfuck with a timer on it.

  • May 11, 2010, 7:55 a.m. CST

    Okay, Jane...

    by zinc_chameleon

    find a way to cast Chloe Moretz, and make sure she freaks out students, teachers, and super villains alike. The girl has got it in her!

  • May 11, 2010, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Wolverines Leak Was an Inside Job...

    by Gigrantor

    And so was 9-11. In life there are only 2 choices. Choice 1 belive the fairy tale that the governemnt feeds us. Choise tow, think outside the box and look at the evidence. The official story of 911 was less believable than most Hollywood films. Anyway I hated X-Men 3 and hope that Vaughn can return this franchise to the greatness that was X-Men 1 and 2.

  • May 11, 2010, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Fassbender as Magneto...genius

    by DavidCamp

    Props to that man. Good call.

  • May 11, 2010, 8:18 a.m. CST

    Countdown until Vaughn leaves again...

    by rev_skarekroe soon as Fox tries to force Wolverine into the movie, demands Lady Gaga on the soundtrack, and insists the film be made in half the time he needs, he'll bolt.

  • May 11, 2010, 8:20 a.m. CST

    breaking newz: vaughn leaves x-men next class

    by alice133

    in 5...4...3...2..

  • May 11, 2010, 8:21 a.m. CST

    No one wants to watch this.

    by HelveticaConspiracy

    The interest on this film is zero. Prequels are boring and never work (*cough* Star Wars *cough*), they're so busy trying to shoehorn into future events that the films always feel like an after thought. Why not reboot the franchise and start new? People would be much more interested in where the X Men go from here. And, I still think Vaughn is a self conscious hack who doesn't know how to tell a good story...

  • May 11, 2010, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Wasn't Vaughn attached to direct X-Men 3 at 1 stage?

    by Gigrantor

    What made him changed his mind this time round?

  • May 11, 2010, 8:30 a.m. CST

    X-Men 3 was okay.

    by Dharma4

  • May 11, 2010, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Do people really want to see a Magneto/Prof X origin movie?

    by Wookie_Weed

    Seriously, were audiences thinking throughout the three X-Men films, "Gee, I'd love to see an origin story for the two old dudes, Gandalf and Picard." Fuck no. More of the Beast would be good, but more brutal, as the comics intended.

  • May 11, 2010, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Is it going to be a flop like K-A?

    by ominus

    i hope so

  • May 11, 2010, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Wookie_Weed just made me think...

    by StatelyWayneManor

    I've been reading X-men off & on for years & but I don't know jack about Professor X. The kids might not see his origin but I would.

  • May 11, 2010, 8:45 a.m. CST

    I'll never understand the circle jerk popularity

    by MobileAccess

    of Kick-Ass

  • May 11, 2010, 8:49 a.m. CST

    I feel like there will be a lot of good news on this front

    by JackSlater4

    Pretty much has potential to be the best X-men yet. The story should have been saved for a reboot, but maybe they think they can keep the continuity going for 30 years before rebooting. Still would rather see Vaughn directing X4 or Wolverine 2

  • May 11, 2010, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Still Not Sold; Mr. Profit . . .

    by Dave I

    Mr. Profit is right, I believe. I do not think people care about the adventures of Professor X and Magneto. For me, and probably for most, the appeal was seeing some cool mutants working together as a team, seeing their powers at work and the internal conflict and the allusions to the backgrounds and histories. Those allusions are generally more satisfying than when they actually reveal the whole thing. Plus, if what's happening in the present (say, X-men 1, 2, or 3) is so death-defying and important and the BIGGEST THREAT EVER!!!!! Then what came before must not have been as dangerous or as big or important since they have grown from that. Perhaps that is my biggest problem with prequels. It's like watching Michael Jordan's game-winning shot to close out against the Jazz, then trying to get excited about his high school games.<p><p>Either way, I just can't get excited about this. Really, this story should have me kind of pumped, but really it just leaves me kind of bored and the best I can come up with is a sense of relief it probably won't be the disaster X-men 3 was, and will hopefully be finer crafted than the Wolverine movie was supposed to be (which I haven't bothered to see and can't really muster the energy to care about enough to watch on DVD or cable).<p><p>Good luck to Vaughn, but I'm not sold on the concept, much less Fox's direction with this. Or anything else, really.<p><p>-Cheers

  • May 11, 2010, 9:03 a.m. CST

    The Death Star was an inside job!!!

    by I_shot_Cyrus

    Here's the proof.

  • May 11, 2010, 9:03 a.m. CST

    I doubt Fox has the balls to do this right

    by Curious_Jorge

    A true X-Men origins movie would dump Wolverine, since he didn't come along until much later. But Wolverine has been the centerpiece of every X-Men movie so far.

  • May 11, 2010, 9:05 a.m. CST

    ominus, your mom is a flop


    You realise it's made a profit, right?<p>Try reading "Why Kickass Succeeded At The Box Office" by Cole Abaius if your fingers can spell the words in Google.

  • May 11, 2010, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Check out some pics of her online

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    Those tits are fucking EPIC!

  • May 11, 2010, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Fox raped my childhood!

    by bat725

    X-Men, FF, Silver Surfer, Daredevil, Elektra, Fox has managed to fuck up EVERY SINGLE Marvel property they own. Does anyone know the specifics of their deal with Marvel? Do they own the rights indefinitely? Because I will NEVER kick out cash for a Fox/Marvel movie again! Are you listening, Marvel? FUCKING NEVER!!!

  • May 11, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST

    The hell with Wolverine

    by kafka07

    I've seen enough of that bozo and his bone claws. Vaughn and Goldman make a good team!

  • May 11, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST

    I can't believe there are so many Truthers trolling here

    by JackSlater4

    sell it somewhere else

  • May 11, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST

    umbrell shadow......I only partially agree with

    by southafricanguy

    you dude. As someone that has read the 95 scriptment (I still have it and you are welcome to it if you want it)I can tell you that there were some big changes. Pandora was certainly more alien and weirder (all the plants were a purple/violet color). As were the Na'vi (they could rotate theri heads like owls, and had no joints joints in their fingers), and there were much more alien creatures like the slinger (a creature that shoot its head, and then then re-attach it by re-growing the tissue between its head and body) etc...However I am exactly sure how much the changes were Cameron changing things because he knew it would nt fly for a mainstream audiance, or because of studio interference. I have a hard time believing it was outright studio interference though because it is known that the studio tried to pressure him into not having tails on the Na'vi which he completely resisted. And given his financial track record he certainly had clout. But then it had been damn long since Titanic (and lets not forget what a infamous short memory Hollywood has.

  • May 11, 2010, 9:19 a.m. CST

    And, I think Cameron is smart enough to

    by southafricanguy

    know what will fly with a mainstream audience (remember that like Spielberg he has a very strong populist streak) and what wont. Plus you dont get 300+ million to make a sci-fi film, when so much money is at risk, without having to consider how to make said sci-fi film could appeal more broadly.

  • May 11, 2010, 9:26 a.m. CST

    But the good news is that now with Avatar

    by southafricanguy

    making 2,7 billion and Cameron completely cementing his bankability, I personally have the feeling that Avatar 2 may actually be the film we were really hoping for. Becuase lets be honest, Cameron will have a blank cheque, and complete freedom to do whatever the fuck he wants with Avatar 2. Both because he has yet to mlae a deal with Fox for it, and after 2,7 billion, Im sure he can demand total frredom. And because he has the mainstream audience in the palm of his hand. Finally, the rumour/scuttlebutt from (who clearly has an insider within Lightstorm productions) is that we can expect Avatar 2 to be weirder (among other things), and Cameron has stated in interviews recently that he wants to use many of the un-used concepts from the 95 scriptment in Avatar 2. So take that for what its worth....

  • May 11, 2010, 9:27 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Profit

    I have yet to see "Kick Ass" as it has pretty much vanished from my favorite theater. I hope that this movie is done right, but I am secretly hoping for it to be a reboot. A movie about a band of mutants with powers should have been on the level of the first "Matrix" movie. <P>Instead we really got a weak first movie (that only cast Professor X, Jean Grey and Wolverine well) but the rest of the characters were really lame and the film lacked in action. X2 was better it was better than X1. But again the Wolverine Show where they need Wolverine to help them get out of a collapsing dam... And finally X3 gets crap (I hated it) but really it just followed the shitty storylines started in X1 and X2. <P>I really hope this new movie hits the Ctrl-Alt-Del on the franchise and just gives us a solid movie, true to the comic, where they are all fucking awesome in their own right, and Rogue isn't a loser who can't protect herself, and Cyclops is a leader who kicks ass.

  • May 11, 2010, 9:35 a.m. CST

    People need to stop making Cameron vs Nolan try to happen...

    by Mr. Profit

    Seriously, Nolan fanboys are getting ridiculous. "The Dark Knight" was a good crime drama. "Avatar" despite it's simple premise, was a well directed action spectacle designed to advance 3D. Both have flaws. Both are not perfect. And most importantly, both cannot be compared to one another because they are dramatically different. The only thing they share in common is being in the top 3 highest grossing films of all time. That's it. <P>So I wish people on this site would really stop sucking Batman's dick as the end all be all of movies. It was a good movie. But really, Nolan isn't God. And neither is Cameron. If you are to compare the two, you could only compare how they direct action, and really, let's not go there because Cameron and Action are synonymous...

  • May 11, 2010, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Cameron vs Bay is much more appropriate

    by JackSlater4

    Bay will surpass him eventually.

  • May 11, 2010, 9:38 a.m. CST


    by umbral_shadow_

    Yeah that's what I thought. The Slingers sound like a really cool and original creation, I would have loved to have seen it and hope it makes it in the sequel. I got the impression that Avatar was watered down, it wasn't the Cameron film I was expecting/hoping for.

  • May 11, 2010, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Are "Truthers" the Conspiracists?

    by Dave I

    If so, take it somewhere else. For one, it's no foregone conclusion that crashing airplanes into the WTC wouldn't compromise it enough to bring down the building. Because, like, who builds for that?<p><p>More importantly, whatever you believe, this is hardly the platform. It's just going to get you largely ignored or ridiculed and told to STFU. Even if I bought into that, I'd still say there are other places to discuss that without totally coming out of left-field. But hey, I guess it's your call.<p><p>-Cheers

  • May 11, 2010, 9:39 a.m. CST


    by ominus

    when someone writes an article to support the notion that a movie was a hit,then its obvious that the movie was a flop.movies which are not flops dont need defense,their BO numbers suffice for that.

  • May 11, 2010, 9:44 a.m. CST

    How the fuck did 9/11 come into this?

    by umbral_shadow_


  • May 11, 2010, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Avatar was the film i was hoping for

    by ominus

    the guys who are still playing with their GIJOE toys should stick to Aliens and Terminator 2.its tough not to have grown up and get introduced to other aspects of life eh?

  • May 11, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    5/11 was an inside job!!!!

    by I_shot_Cyrus

  • May 11, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Jean Grey wasn't cast well in the X-Men films

    by Star Hump

    The actress was in her mid to late 30s for fuck's sake. Jean Grey was in her very early 20s when the Phoenix story came about, and when the X-Men book started she was a teenager. Maybe 16.<p> These characters are YOUNG PEOPLE. They were described exactly as such by Chris Claremont in the original stories. Storm, for instance, is no older than 25. Colossus is 21 or so. Nightcrawler is maybe in his mid 20s. Cyclops, the leader and the oldest, is about 26 or 27 (he was cast correctly in the films).<p> Why is this so difficult for both Hollywood and fans to get right? Why do they think the X-Men are a bunch of people in their 30s? The source material lays it out in no uncertain terms, going all the way back to Stan Lee's original stories published in 1963.

  • May 11, 2010, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Jackslater....dude, if you dont know how

    by southafricanguy

    Cameron and Bay are radically differnet from each other so as to make such an ignorant comment, then theres really no point to explain it to you as you are clearly lack the ability to tell chocolate from dog shit....

  • May 11, 2010, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Inside job? What happened on November 9th???

    by V'Shael

    FYI : I think only Americans write September 11th as 9/11.

  • May 11, 2010, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Umbralshadow......well, I guess we will wait

    by southafricanguy

    and see what happens with AVatar 2, I really hope Cameron goes all Aliens/T2 on it....anyway, in the scriptmnet there were also these huge jellyfish type creatures called medusa that floated above the jungle and were filled with methane gas. In the final battle the Na'vi used them as weapons, with the tentacles grabbing RDA gunships, and useing them as giant airborne bombs (as they were filled with methane gas). Would have looked spectacular on film imho based on how it was described in the scriptment. Oh, and the Na'vi were completely hairless....

  • May 11, 2010, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Ominus....whats up dude? How you doing?

    by southafricanguy

  • May 11, 2010, 10 a.m. CST

    Is this good news about this woman writing

    by southafricanguy

    the new x-men? I rreally dont know her work at all.....

  • May 11, 2010, 10:01 a.m. CST

    I just want another good x-men film to wash away

    by southafricanguy

    the stench of those two crapfests X-3 and Wolverine......yikes!

  • May 11, 2010, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Star Hump

    by Mr. Profit

    Hey, I meant appearance wise. As I don't think there were many women at the time who could have pulled the whole Jean Grey thing off. Now? Yes there are plenty. But I don't recall any. And I always thought, well, she looks older than Cyclops, but I let it slide. But I agree with you. <P>Also for anyone to compare Bay to Cameron is just stupidity... In all of Avatar with everything going on, you ALWAYS knew what the fuck was happening during action scenes. In Transformers, when the robots fight, you can't really see shit.

  • May 11, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Mr Profit....amen brother. Watch that final

    by southafricanguy

    action scene, there is tons of stuff going on, yet you alwyas know, and can see what is going on, what the geography of the scene is etc....

  • May 11, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Avatar has made an insane amount of money.

    by V'Shael

    end of April figures, according to BoxOfficeMojo were a cunt hair under 2 billion USD on the international market. (1.98 billion)<br /><br />And yet, when the domestic figures are adjusted and compared to other box office hits, it's not even in the fucking top ten!<br /><br />Seriously, how much business and repeat business and repeat business did movies like Jaws and Gone with the Wind actually do?<br /><br />

  • May 11, 2010, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Star Hump, Honestly?

    by Dave I

    I think it's in part because, since the comic's been around for decades, at least for me I tend to think of them as being older NOW. I realize they started out young, but think in terms that they have grown up a bit over the run of the comics. At this point, Scott & Jean have been married and she's died and been resurrected, their future son has come back from the future, Hank/Beast is an established scientist and has evolved from the original Beast to a Cat-Beast, and of course Wolverine is an old man, so it's just that a lot of storyline has progressed. So to me, they aren't kids anymore. Well, maybe Dazzler and the next class of X-men and new recruits. But for their to be the next class(es) of X-men, the original team has to have aged.<p><p>I see your point, but it all depends on where they are in development. Besides, they cast like 30-somethings in shows like 90210, don't they? Those are supposed to be about high-schoolers, I thought, but they obviously aren't, I'll guess it's since they probably want people who are proven that they can act (adults are a more polished and proven commodity, usually), and aren't creepy for men to gawk at.<p><p>-Cheers

  • May 11, 2010, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Well lets see

    by JackSlater4

    They have both made a career on blockbusters and epics.(although Michael Bay has done more in 15 years than Cameron in 30)<P> They are both masters of the action scene(though you couldn't tell from Avatar)<P> They are both technical wizards.<P> They both have a reputation for giant egos, being mean directors, and drop a shitload of F-bombs in interviews.<P> They are most definitely cut from the same cloth.

  • May 11, 2010, 10:09 a.m. CST

    JackSlater4 Bay hates geeks

    by ominus

    Cameron is their God.see the difference?

  • May 11, 2010, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Geeks bite the heads off chickens so...

    by JackSlater4

  • May 11, 2010, 10:15 a.m. CST

    I don't understand why we aren't talking about her TITS!

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    I mean, look at these motherfuckers! Tell me you wouldn't want to suffocate in those delicious mounds!</p><p>

  • May 11, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST

    so what? Bay is the guy who thought that the first

    by ominus

    Indiana Jones was joke and it was going to fail,when he was participating in the pre-production of the film. <p>Cameron is a visionary,Bay is the guy who sends cinema 100 years back.

  • May 11, 2010, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Can't be as bad as that 90's Generation X pilot

    by JayLenoTookMyJob

    The one where Matt Frewer as the villain made the National Security Council come down with a bad case of explosive flatulence.

  • May 11, 2010, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Never forget

    by JackSlater4

    The Mutant X tv show

  • May 11, 2010, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Dave I

    by Mr. Profit

    On the latest incarnation of 90210, everyone is under 25 for the most part with the exception of about 3 cast members who are hovering around 30... How do I know this? Embarrassingly enough, I have a thing for Annalynne McCord since she was "Eden" on "Nip/Tuck"...

  • May 11, 2010, 10:30 a.m. CST


    by RETURN_of_FETT

    Buncha slack-jawed faggots around here!</p><p>

  • May 11, 2010, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Wossy will give her story ideas

    by umbral_shadow_

    He's a comic book nut, so he'll whisper things to her while she's asleep if he has to. For Wossy this will be like having a supercar in his garage that he can't drive. He won't be able to resist giving his wife his terrible story ideas.

  • May 11, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Wah wah wee wah! Jane Goldman

    by masteryoda007

    Yak smash Jane Goldman. What a great pair of mammary glands. I love this lady....she is talented and and has the best bazookas in the business. Schwing!

  • May 11, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST

    There's these things called "tits", see...

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    And they're really fucking amazing. Without them, the sun wuld burn out and we'd all fucking die. Doubt their powers? Just have a look-see:</p><p>

  • May 11, 2010, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Some just won't give up hope. FOX is still in charge!

    by The Founder

    I wish I shared all this optimism that everyone seem to have taken in all of sudden. FOX is still in charge and neither Vaughan or this AGoldman woman has to power to have total freedom. They to will do as told from the studio heads. Like it or not I don't see a great xmen film coing down the pipes anytime soon.

  • May 11, 2010, 11:08 a.m. CST

    The whole premise is "half-baked homogenized studio shit"

    by kevred

    ...which is not a good starting point. Hopefully they can start a new trend - garbage studio ideas turned into something good.<p>But what in Fox's track record gives us any hope of that?

  • May 11, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST


    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    That's all true about the differences between Bay and Cameron and only a moron could dispute it, but that JackSlater4 character didn't mean that as an insult, I don't think - apparently he thinks Bay is a great action 'auteur' and that the Transformers movies were 4 and a half star out of five affairs. Bizarre, huh? Am I right, JackSlater4? It takes all sorts, doesn't it, son?<p>As for Bay, the only thing he will be surpassing is his own ineptitude. I await Trannyformers 3 only to see just how low he will go.

  • May 11, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Vaughan has to cast Tom Hardy as Prof X

    by The Founder

    He does. I can't of a better young Xavire then him. He was also a younger clone of Picard in Star Trek.

  • May 11, 2010, 11:15 a.m. CST

    And to theose saying Avatar was 'compromised'

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    (without a shred of evidence), this is completely inaccurate. Cameron made EXACTLY the movie he wanted to make. I laughed uproariously at hairy pedophile Devin Faraci trying to claim as such in one of his fraudulent articles - which was transparently just another attempt to salvage his wounded pride after the whole fiasco and make back-handed 'criticisms', with absolutely no understanding of the scriptwriting or production processes of movies. The only things that was removed from Cameron's original scriptment were a few ideas and subplots because his original draft came to 220 pages - which would have made for a 6 hour movie. That's merely a process of winnowing and focussing down a rough draft. Many of these discarded ideas are going to turn up in the sequel, in reworked form.

  • May 11, 2010, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Lastly, X-Men: First Class = CRAP

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    That's why I only post to talk about Avatar instead. Now Cameron's X-Men, which he was involved with at one point, as well as Spider-Man - THAT would have been the proverbial shit!

  • May 11, 2010, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Oh, and JackSlater4

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    Avatar Action >>>>>>better than ANY action in ANY Bay movie. An inarguable fact.

  • May 11, 2010, 11:21 a.m. CST


    by ominus

    i have oil massaged such big natural boobies.and milked them to death with my mouth like a baby.believe me when i say these babies can suffocate you to death.anyway back on topic.

  • May 11, 2010, 11:28 a.m. CST

    southafricanguy - scriptment changes

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    Cameron and his team actually tested the blue plants and vegetation idea, along with purple skies and the like; he's gone on record as saying this. They found that it completely took the viewer out of the believability of the world. That's why it wasn't used.<p>As for the discarded creatures - budget, yes even on a movie as expensive as this one. They were designed for the movie; there are illustrations in some of the art books. Expect them to perhaps re-appear in the sequels.<P>The Na'vi changes were just a matter of changes as part of the exploration of the design process - ie, remember that the banshees were supposed to be manta-ray like creatures in the treatment, and became more pterodactyl like in the final designs.

  • May 11, 2010, 11:29 a.m. CST

    The only thing i miss from the original script

    by ominus

    is the scene when Jake wakes up in his sleep-pod and discovers Norm banging Trudy in the next room (Norm and Trudy had became lovers in the original script).that would have been hilarious.

  • May 11, 2010, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Xaviers school vs Emma Frost school

    by theDannerDaliel

    Frost backed by the inner circle of the hellfire club. Forget magnet-boy....

  • May 11, 2010, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Turd is correct

    by ominus

    you should always remember that not everything in paper translates well on film. <p>oh and you can get a glimpse of those Medusa balloon creatures in the Home Tree when Jake is introduced to the clan,they are those big balloon shaped creatures which lighten the interior of the Tree.

  • May 11, 2010, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Dave I, Mr. Profit

    by Star Hump

    Great responses both, and excuse me if I get frustrated at the age thing re: the X-Men.<p> These guys really should be forever young, ESPECIALLY in the movies. They shouldn't age outside of a 5 to 7 year age range.<p> Even Sony somehow realized this (amazingly), and knew not to recast Tobey McGuire as 37 year-old Spider-Man. They HAD to reboot. Spidey is a young guy, somewhere between high school and college, maybe a little bit after - that's his ideal range.<p> Same thing goes for the X-Men. Yep, the Beast should still be a young man, and at, say, his scientist peak (when he's blue and furry), no older than 30. In this new movie he should be a teenager, albiet a brilliant one.<p> Fans need to forget continuity, age wise re: these movies, and studios need to read the source material and figure out that these charcters are young. Really young.<P> And it's not that far-fetched to have them so young. Alexander the Great? 25. B29 pilots in WW2? 23-25. The examples are endless.

  • May 11, 2010, 11:35 a.m. CST

    i'm glad Jane likes to show her fantastic boobs

    by smudgewhat

    b/c i enjoy thinking about them in my mouth!

  • May 11, 2010, 11:36 a.m. CST

    The Nov DVD will have 3 versions of the movie

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    The theatrical cut, a 6 minute longer extended cut (with completely finished theatrical quality effects and a few new scenes), and a 40 minute longer cut with the new scenes only being integrated at template-level pre-vis quality, since they would be too expensive to complete.

  • May 11, 2010, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Hopefully Ms Goldman's magnificent breasts

    by deelzbub

    will contribute to an exellent X-men script! Yowza!

  • May 11, 2010, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Ominus, I don't think those are meant to be medusas, just plants

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    I could be wrong, though.

  • May 11, 2010, 11:42 a.m. CST

    The X-Men

    by skywise404

    have always been my favorite marvel book...hell they are my all time favorite super team in general and even tho the 1st 2 movies were good...they really tried to condense to much of the storyline in too short a time which made things feel a bit off for me. I done even need to mention Rogue...if you read the comic where she actually the joins the x-men, not only does she have the permently stolen powers of carol Danvers but she claims outright that she is half-alien. As much as i enjoyed seeing the x men on screen, they really strayed from the story. Having said that, they did maintain the heart and soul of the X-Men. This new project excites me but i am affraid its gonna be x-babies for the teen to pre-teen audience. God help us all.

  • May 11, 2010, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Avatars best action scene couldn't touch Bad Boys worst

    by JackSlater4

  • May 11, 2010, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Turd they were floating on the air

    by ominus

    if i remember correctly.

  • May 11, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Bad Boys is garbage action

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    You can't tell what the fuck is going on - and I'm talking about the first movie as well. Michael Bay has never shot a good action sequence, ever. McG even shoots better action than Bay (though not by much)

  • May 11, 2010, 11:52 a.m. CST

    so Rothman has someone else sucking his cock

    by Cockofgod

    dirty dirty cocksucker

  • May 11, 2010, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Ominus, could be...

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    I will await the dvd commentary or documentaries for confirmation.

  • May 11, 2010, 12:03 p.m. CST

    I'd still love an ABC live action series, but

    by Adelai Niska

    ...if they have to reboot the movie franchise they better plan this shit out like Harry Potter. They had the first trilogy to figure out what works, so from now on I don't want any reboots, remakes, or trilogy cycles. Run this series like James Bond- no more reboots for 40 years.

  • May 11, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    @ V'Shael

    by fatjesuschrysler

    I really don't know, but Gone With The Wind has had 70+ years to do it! That movie ran, if I remember correctly, for almost 4 years straight, and was released 7(?) times in the theatres between 1939 and 1970. The fact that Avatar has made a staggering amount of money in relatively no time at all (1.98 billion! Wow!) is just amazing.

  • May 11, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Since I'm here. I may as well address the X-Men.

    by fatjesuschrysler

    Personally I would love to see a reboot with the original story and the original team. However, Wolverine is synonymous with the X-Men these days and I think it would be a hard sell to not include him in any X-Men movie. Actually, if I had it my way, my X-Men movie dream team would be Colossus, Nightcrawler, Storm, Psylocke, Havock and Wolverine. Anyway-here's hoping a new X-Men movie will kick-ass.

  • May 11, 2010, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Katerina Graham from Vampire Diaries for Storm

    by JackSlater4

  • May 11, 2010, 1:17 p.m. CST

    This is not a reboot.

    by Shermdawg

  • May 11, 2010, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Should 9/11 be rebooted?

    by Gigrantor

    This time the administration could actually provide some evidence before actually invading 2 countries. The official story is based on heresay and sounds more like a conspiracy story to me. By the way, I don't claim to actually know who was behind the events of that day either but as I have stated before I just don't buy the officail story. Anyway back to the subject at hand, will first call bea complete reboot? Because I would prefer an actual 4th XMen film that continues the estaablished mythos and manages to tidy up the mess of the 3rd film at the same time. Just a thought...

  • May 11, 2010, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Finally some tit talk!

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    I was starting to wonder about you fuckers!</p><p>But the image of Ominus sucking mother's milk from the tap made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

  • May 11, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST

    They need to wait about 3-5 years for a reboot

    by Dead_Kate_Moss

    Because they mixed up too many old and new characters together. Then go for original X-Men, Lee/Kirby team, IN COSTUME, and go from there... they can even zoom forward to the new X-Men by the end with Wolverine, Storm & Colossus coming on board. But we need costumes (and Sentinels) and the memories of the last three patchy movies to fade from memory. Won't happen though.

  • May 11, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Fox can't wait 3-5 years or they'll lose the rights...

    by Shermdawg

    ...most likely.

  • May 11, 2010, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Please, no-fucking-Wolverine!

    by Stalkeye

    We don't need him/jackman in every x-men related movie. as many on this board had mentioned, focus on the Lee/kirby era and yes with the yellow and black "spandex". no stupid ass all black leather jumpsuits please.And I highly recommend Kick Ass just for Hit Girl's violent intro alone. (laughs ensue as she takes out a bunch of thugs while smiling at kick ass.)

  • May 11, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST

    God, Juggs Vaughn could write a script for me anyday........

    by Stuntcock Mike


  • May 11, 2010, 3:28 p.m. CST

    XXX Men: The Rise of Goldman's Cans

    by Stuntcock Mike


  • May 11, 2010, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Seriously fuck.......No, SERIOUSLY!

    by Stuntcock Mike

  • May 11, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST

    So Jane Goldman, Is That All Natural?

    by Dave I

    Her hair color, that is? Seems a bit, well, pink!<p><p>-Cheers

  • May 11, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Kick-Ass was pure crap

    by SirBiatchReturns

    people wanna complain about Hollywood making bad pictures yet praise this lame 'geek chic' movie.<p>news flash: Kick-Ass is one of the many symptoms of sickness that Hollywood has.<p>so I wont be surprised if this ends up sucking as well.

  • May 11, 2010, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Kick-Ass was also a flop

    by ominus


  • May 11, 2010, 5 p.m. CST

    news flash: kick-ass was an independent (non-Hollywood) film.

    by RandySavage

    So whether you liked it or not, you might want to pull your head out of your ass before posting.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:03 p.m. CST

    good news

    by Candy ass monkey suit

    This is good news. Goldman is a very good writer so i'm pleased she and vaughn are doing the flick. Couldve been much much worse. I actually didnt think X3 was bad..just that it tried to cram too much into a lean run time. X2 was over 30 mins longer. I wasn't really looking forward to the movie as i'm not sure i wanna see x men - the early yrs but i must admit im looking forward just a little bit more now.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:04 p.m. CST


    by Candy ass monkey suit

    Goldman has huge tits by the way..absolutely huge !

  • May 11, 2010, 5:27 p.m. CST

    911: Bush's Elder Brother And 1st Cousin Were In Charge...

    by Media Messiah

    ...of security of the World Trade Center prior to the assault of the Twin Towers. During their collective time in those posts, there was a 2 week plus period where much of the towers were closed for maintenance. You'll note that emergency personel reported hearing explosions from with inside the building, unrelated to the plane crashes. Reportedly, tapes of this, were ordered to be cut in small pieces, and disposed of. <BR><BR>Now, experts claim that the fall of the buildings were a controlled demolition, or at least, looked like one, as crashing planes could not, and would not, make a building...or buildings, collapse, at least not buildings of that size. Experts believe that during the down-time when the buildings were closed, again, for maintenance--that is when bombs were planted in the building. Considering the Bush's involvement, being in charge of security of the complex, and CIA, and other secret U.S. agencies having offices in the building complex, you have to focus on a 5th Column conspiracy having unfolded here, in respect to 911.<BR><BR>There is also the video on the BBC to consider. Building number 7 was still standing, and yet, a young blond female BBC reporter, stated that building number 7 had fallen, and how very awful it was, to have happened, as she witnessed it... although it was clearly still-up just over her left shoulder? Her news anchor, an older man, confirmed that building number 7 had indeed, fallen--and like her, he mourned the loss of the building, which only added to America's grief with regard to the 911 tragedy. This went on for 22 minutes, in live video, before they, the reporter and the news anchor, realized the ruse was up, and both fell into a visable panic, and the report was quickly ceased, and the live feed of ground zero, was instantly cut-off.<BR><BR>Since, the BBC ordered copies of the video removed from You Tube, and everytime it is posted, You Tube removes it--at the BBC's request (actually a court ordered demand). BTW, the IDs of two of the lead, so-called, hijackers...were found at ground perfect condition, as if planted there??? I could go on, and on.

  • May 11, 2010, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Now this is getting interesting. Two genuine talents versus

    by FamousEccles

    the retard strength of Fox.

  • May 11, 2010, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Kick-Ass was only half crap

    by MattmanReturns

    Any scene with Hit-Girl and Big Daddy was great. The rest was tedious. Shoulda made the movie exclusively about those two.

  • May 11, 2010, 6:19 p.m. CST

    speaking of titties

    by JackSlater4

    AICN should post this trailer for Luc Besson's new movie<P>

  • May 11, 2010, 6:23 p.m. CST

    and truthers are fucking retards that were 10 yrs old on 9/11

    by JackSlater4

  • May 11, 2010, 6:23 p.m. CST

    and now they have PTSD

    by JackSlater4

  • May 11, 2010, 6:47 p.m. CST

    If you've ever sucked on massive dense paps

    by smudgewhat

    Then you know there are few greater joys in life.

  • May 11, 2010, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Okayyyy....soooo....enough crazies please...

    by Sithtastic

    Back on topic maybe? First Class should be a simple origin story sans Wolverine. While I know everyone's bored to death over the Xavier/Magneto dynamic, you could go the ultimate universe route on this one, have them found a school together and watch as Erik Lensher goes from iconoclast, to rebel, to militant and inevitably separatist. He founds his own colony whic supports what will become the Brotherhood. It's a start.

  • May 11, 2010, 7:03 p.m. CST

    I like where your heads at Sithtastic

    by JackSlater4

    If they feel the need to throw Creed in to help form the brotherhood, it would be the perfect opportunity to show further mutation giving him the long blonde hair, larger physique and more pronounced fangs

  • May 11, 2010, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Wowzers! Mrs. Goldman has magnificent...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius hair! Oh, and the rack and British accent combo ain't bad either. She can write a buddy-cop action flick for me anyday.

  • May 11, 2010, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Harry your wife obviously has a great taste

    by ominus

    Men in Tights is very funny at what it does,to parody Costner's Prince of Thieves.

  • May 11, 2010, 11:50 p.m. CST

    "Ghostbusters 3" will be in theaters in 2012.

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    Director Harold Ramis, who told ABC 7 that pre-production work is being done and that "Ghostbusters 3" will be in theaters in 2012.

  • May 12, 2010, midnight CST

    we dont give a fuck Tranny

    by ominus

    yeah i am trolling at you

  • May 12, 2010, 12:29 a.m. CST

    how was X3 homogenized?

    by Warcraft

    It pretty much kicked the teeth in on the first two x-films and tore down what was being built up, which is exactly why I liked it. A "homogenized" movie would have had every single likable character survive or come out with mutant powers still intact, and would have had a picture perfect happy ending. haters will always blindly hate.

  • May 12, 2010, 1:43 a.m. CST

    Christina Hendricks as Jean Grey

    by BiggusDickus the old-skool green Marvel Girl costume.<p>Fap fap fap...

  • May 12, 2010, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Anyone who thinks Bay is Better then Cameron

    by Phategod2

    Is Trolling under the age of 21 or Certifiably retarded.

  • May 12, 2010, 4:27 a.m. CST

    @Trannyformers_Apologist - Harold Ramis is a lying cocksucker

    by V'Shael

    They've been "pre-prepping" GB3 for years. It never gets anywhere. Nothing has changed.

  • May 12, 2010, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Mr profit

    by Phineas_Flavel

    You precisely addressed my concerns. X-men should be a team film with cyclops at the center, not the prequel to wolverine.

  • May 12, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    How will Wolverine be forced into this.

    by The Founder

    You know he will

  • May 12, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Allow me to reinterate..

    by Stalkeye

    ..Kick-Ass was fucking Grreeatt!A movie judged by BO returns is not really considered a flop if that's the case, Terminator Salvation and Transformers 2 are smash hits. Sorry haters, there's always the upcoming TF3 for you all to enjoy.

  • May 12, 2010, 1:04 p.m. CST

    it was also a flop

    by ominus

    dont forget that

  • May 12, 2010, 3:49 p.m. CST

    I'd be fine with Wolverine being in it!

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    so long as his story didn't cross with everyone else's.</p><p>I'd frankly love to see him in Alpha Flight, though I don't know how the fuck that would work with the wird continuity of X-Men Origins: Wolverine.</p><p>But as Jules says in Pulp Fiction "Basically walk the earth. You know, like Caine in 'KUNG FU.' Just walk from town to town, meet people, get in adventures."

  • May 12, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST


    by Phineas_Flavel

    Wolverine was a seriously lame-ass character when he made his debut. I don't think I want to see a side story take half the movie away from characters that are actually interesting if a writer that isn't semi-retarded(like everyone that's on the wolverine band wagon) writes them.

  • May 12, 2010, 6:56 p.m. CST

    "I've got a bad feeling about this."

    by Merlin_Ambrosius

  • May 12, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST

    "homogenized studio shit"?

    by brechtsky

    Im sorry but homogenized it was not ... killing off two of the main characters before the third act, and killing the main one's love interest in the final one, thus essentially boning any further sequels to the point where the next has to be a prequel and carry a lame subtitle like "first class" ... does not qualify. Studio shit, yes... "Homogenized" studio shit , no.