May 11, 2010, 2:10 a.m. CST
have heard of it.
May 11, 2010, 2:11 a.m. CST
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...Zombie Lena Horne and Zombie Frank Frazetta team up to battle the Zombie Beatles?
May 11, 2010, 2:13 a.m. CST
... at the Rose Kennedy Institute. Round 2 starts....<P>...Now.
May 11, 2010, 2:16 a.m. CST
Paul WS Anderson
May 11, 2010, 2:17 a.m. CST
First time in a minute. Anyway, I saw this yesterday and I loved the hell out it. It could be a total hoax and it still wouldn't effect my enjoyment of it. My girlfriend won the coin toss on this (I would have picked IM2) and I'm glad she did.
May 11, 2010, 2:20 a.m. CST
by Boba Fat
...by a British tabloid a few years ago: http://bit.ly/cFNrP8
May 11, 2010, 2:21 a.m. CST
I don't think it's a good thing.<p> The punks should buy a sheet of canvas.
May 11, 2010, 2:34 a.m. CST
I'm gonna go look around the city tomorrow & take some photos of his art. I saw "Exit" today & absolutely love it. I've been a huge fan of Banksy's for years...the one cool thing my art teacher in high school ever showed us was his Guantanamo disney prank.
May 11, 2010, 2:42 a.m. CST
May 11, 2010, 2:53 a.m. CST
by Robots In Das Guys
May 11, 2010, 2:57 a.m. CST
by Robots In Das Guys
(Heh) Good review, Harry. It's nice to see you can keep the hyperbole levels down from time to time.
May 11, 2010, 2:57 a.m. CST
it ain't Guy Ritchie.
May 11, 2010, 3:15 a.m. CST
by Julius Dithers
Kevin James is Banksy.
May 11, 2010, 3:34 a.m. CST
there a few hints. parents were middle class and he went to a top public school. he was talented artistically but wasnt a show off. never got into trouble. beyond that its all a bit vague. and this film isnt about banksy really.
May 11, 2010, 4:23 a.m. CST
Banksy is multiple people. Maybe even all the people in this film. A character created by these people in order to shake things up. One of those ideas that you have after a long, late party and you with a few friends are still sitting around with over-active brains, brainstorming insane ideas that just.might.work. "If only we had the guts to attempt really pulling it it off." You know, like faking your own death and starting anew. Big, big pranks. I'm thinking Banksy is one of these ideas, fully realized.
May 11, 2010, 4:25 a.m. CST
"find Banksy" or "reveal Banksy" and then discover later that there was no way they actually did because the "real" Banksy was somewhere 1000 miles away on that same day.
May 11, 2010, 4:30 a.m. CST
Hurt yourself. Do damage. I mean it.
May 11, 2010, 5:03 a.m. CST
May 11, 2010, 5:35 a.m. CST
i have nothing more to say.
May 11, 2010, 6:27 a.m. CST
May 11, 2010, 6:53 a.m. CST
by Spandau Belly
Vaughn can just deliver mediocre versions of other people's movies.
May 11, 2010, 7:04 a.m. CST
observer from last year.. http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2009/jun/14/banksy-bristol-city-museum-exhibition
May 11, 2010, 8:13 a.m. CST
This is a link to a cool music video about tagging that just popped up. Like the song. You can see the Lennon Wall at the end. Enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5xkIav0Bcg
May 11, 2010, 8:14 a.m. CST
by Nice Marmot
. . . had a name worth dropping.
May 11, 2010, 9:07 a.m. CST
You missed "movement" and "thus far". Until videogames come to grips with their commercialism, street art is the only real art movement we have so they get the title by default.
May 11, 2010, 9:27 a.m. CST
I used to work in Bristol ten years ago and used to see his stencils all over the place - lots of ironic rats particularly by the court and police station. He only became such a big deal when the media jumped on the bandwagon. My brother's mate from college used to pose for Banksy and is the basis for the stencil of the hoodie. As far as I can tell he's a Bristol boy done good! Don't see why that's not good enough - kinda insulting to his droll anarchist persona to suggest a priveleged, middle aged, movie director is responsible for his work.
May 11, 2010, 10:35 a.m. CST
banksy was one person. we dont know who. but as time has gone on. Bansky has become PR firm. we dont know who banksy and I doubt we ever will. Many are know many banksy's
May 11, 2010, 12:19 p.m. CST
The legend is more impressive than the man.
May 11, 2010, 12:41 p.m. CST
And no one can prove if I'm telling the truth or not. That's what's brilliant about it. Just like religion.
May 11, 2010, 1:39 p.m. CST
I love how graffiti art/spray can art finally becomes mainstream when some asshole starts using stencils. If people weren't buying up entire walls of his for thousands of dollars it'd be downright laughable. Fuck the thousands of talented artists who have spent decades perfecting their craft and can-control( like DAIM) Just make some stencils.
May 11, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST
I was at the screening last night and completely agree.
May 11, 2010, 4:53 p.m. CST
and now there are impersonators everywere. All with one name like Banksy. All claiming, nooo i don´t want fame , thats why im anonymous....YEAH cause it worked for the guys who did it FIRST (he he) what a bunch of faggots. And stencil paintings are not art. You can have anything made into a stencil, and then all you need is a spray can. Thats not art, its hyped graffiti.
May 11, 2010, 5:12 p.m. CST
He wears glasses and is very polite. Maybe he has help now but there is just one guy. <P> He looks nothing like Guy Ritchie or Matthew Vaughn.
May 11, 2010, 7:40 p.m. CST
come on man...you're gonna waste your "made up name drop" card on a guy that no one knows? that's a rookie mistake, kiddo.
May 11, 2010, 11:09 p.m. CST
Harry, I usually ignore the poor quality of your writing, but I actually stopped reading this review because it makes so little sense. It's truly shocking, this one. That said, I can't wait to see this. I've bought and sold a few MBW's in my day.
May 12, 2010, 3:03 a.m. CST
What a waste of space. Vandalism is now "important" art? Seriously? Good thing Banksy learned how to stencil.
May 12, 2010, 4:23 a.m. CST
What a pretentious piece of shit this review was, wrong on so many levels!! Firstly, Harry and his 'passionate group of art enthusiasts' standing around discussing how 'convenient' it was to have a documentor onside just as Banksy made it big!?! Bollocks! The man has been HUGE WORLDWIDE since 'Wall and Peace' was released in 2005, and THAT book was only greenlit because he was already a massive name. The man has been a legend at what he does for a decade Harry, not just since YOU'VE heard of him - how do you think he raised the funds to expand into international street art!?! As to street art being the most important movement of the 21st century: seriously!?! Any movement that can be summed up in one name (again, Banksy) is not a movement at all, it's a one-man industry beset by imitators and ignorantly admired by posseurs! And as to your friend who knows who Banksy is, let me tell you that this is also bollocks - either he's lying to you or you're using a little poetic licence. I was personally very heavily involved in the publication of 'Wall and Peace', to the extent that I have a number of signed Banksy stencils hanging on my office wall, and I can assure you that every single interaction was conducted via a single middleman who has personally become very wealthy through his assocation. Next to no one knows who Banksy is, it is the best kept secret in the industry (kept, even, from the very team who pushed his fame to the next level via his groundbreaking book) and to suggest that some friend of yours was dropping cryptic hints is just pathetic. I've got to say, the more I read your bullshit reviews that somehow turn things to the point that you can discuss how well-connected etc you are, the more I see how other talkbackers on this site can get righteously pissed off!!
May 12, 2010, 4:34 a.m. CST
One other point, to those who say that this isn't art just because stencils are used. I disagree. Banksy - unlike many previous street artists who seemed interested in little more than tagging - has something original to say and does so via well thought out and, in many cases, beautifully expressed work. To do this he has NO CHOICE but to use stencils as he simply would not have time to finish the work otherwise: this isn't the Life of Brian where, if caught, he would be made to 'draw it out a hundred times and if it's not done by sunrise I'll cut your balls off'. If caught he'd be chased and arrested before he could finish! So the use of stencils is NOT proof of a lack of ability, it's proof that he is bright enough to know that this is the only way he can complete his work on his canvas of choice! Beats the shit out of just scrawling the word 'Banksy' all over Bristol and Clerkenwell, I'd say!!
May 12, 2010, 3:56 p.m. CST
Harry, Thanks so much for holding the “Exit Through the Gift Shop” screening Monday night. It was my first Ain’t It Cool event after reading for so many years. The interesting thing to me about the film is the way it plays with your idea of what is real. A £10 note with a picture of Princess Di on it instead of the Queen is worthless because only one is genuine, even though they are both just pieces of paper with British Royalty on them. Is co-opting Warhol’s images a genuine form of expression? Is putting an eye patch on the Mona Lisa art? Banksy doesn’t try to answer these questions, instead he skillfully piles on layer after layer of ambiguity, showing one thing while hinting at another. The only thing that is real is the art, everything else, well, we have to take his word for it. Is Thierry Guerra a genuine artist? Is Thierry even a genuine person? He makes the perfect protagonist, seamlessly connecting all the street artists portrayed, and whose presence is often merely implied by the fact that something is being videotaped. Eventually, he is encouraged to create art so derivative of the artists he is documenting that the only thing that distinguishes it is his signature. If he was a fabrication, does his work make him real? Even in his rise as a celebrated street artist, he admits to not creating the art he’s selling. We know Guerra isn’t Banksy because he is clearly different from the hooded figure in the interviews. (Of course, we only “know” that figure is Banksy because that is what Banksy has told us.) Regardless of the “genuineness” of Guerra, he is a highly entertaining character, larger than life, and much of the films success hinges on his personality. However truthful the story he tells, we enjoy the way he tells it. Banksy is clearly playing with the documentary form here, presenting an untold story from a secretive world. Of course we have to remind ourselves that it is being told by someone whose whole career is based on deception and twisting perceptions. I look forward to seeing it again. I can’t help but feel like all the clues are there, waiting to be found. BTW- I am pretty sure Banksy was sitting next to me. He was a lot shorter than I expected.
May 12, 2010, 6:01 p.m. CST
you did everything in your post that you accused harry of doing, including the 'pretentious piece of shit' part
May 12, 2010, 6:51 p.m. CST
.. that Banksy IS Thierry?!?? Exact same thing Spike Jonze did for the Fatboy Slim video guy. THEY'RE THE SAME PERSON! *end conspiracy theory*
May 12, 2010, 11:19 p.m. CST
Sorry I didn't get around to coming clean on this sooner.<p> I was taking my kids to soccer practice.<p> Keep it on the down low though, hey?
May 13, 2010, 12:18 a.m. CST
And the legend fuels the money machine for pretty good art.
May 13, 2010, 7:42 a.m. CST
Ever seen them together? Thought not.
May 13, 2010, 1:06 p.m. CST
by Talkbacker with no name
you are all missing the point
May 13, 2010, 1:37 p.m. CST
Did anyone else notice that the subjects of the documentary (other than Banksy's narration) don't mention or talk with Thiery? This movie appears to be a brilliant fiction - Banksy. All of the video is shot with different cameras even when done at similar times in the narrative. It appears that Banksy collected video from multiple street artists and created the narrative device named Thiery. Even the Brainwash gallery show is thrown together and is a mash of outsourced artistic derivation of other street artists. I expect that it will leak that the whole "documentary" is fiction
May 13, 2010, 2:17 p.m. CST
But that review is fucking dire.<p>Even if the film turns out to be a clever fiction (which would actually be FAR less interesting than it being fact) it should be enough to enjoy it without inventing dumbass theories that Banksy is some low rent British semi-celeb.<p>And fuck the Bansky haters. You wouldn't know art if it dropped out yer arse and poked you in the eyes.
May 13, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST
I stated it because some idiots actually were questioning if its one guy or what. It is and I can qualify that out right. <P> I wasted my made up name drop years ago when I was telling everyone about the time I saw Old Dirty Bastard. Turned out it was just a drunk black guy btw.
May 13, 2010, 6:42 p.m. CST
Yep. I said it. <p> Banksy has always been less art than theatre masked by irony--without true artistic talent or relevance. He's the "hipster" version of Jackass.
May 13, 2010, 9:53 p.m. CST
I just think it's incredibly important to understand how long people have been doing street art. Even political street art. He didn't invent the concept or create the art form. He just hit a certain nerve with his guerrilla tactics and the placement of his work. This film sounds more interesting to me after reading this review, though. Might have to truck over to Berkeley tomorrow and check it out.
May 13, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST
I'm going to call bullshit on that, because that's not street art, or even art. It's tagging, and it's a nuisance. They are two totally and completely different things.
May 13, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST
What have you done that would qualify as artistic lately? What have you done that has caused people to stop, look and discuss?
May 14, 2010, 5:27 p.m. CST
The stencils are designed, hand drawn and cut by Bansky. This takes considerable skill. Further more, the way in which many of his pieces are worked into their setting depends upon a good artistic eye. You may not like his stuff, but the man knows what he's doing with a paintbrush as well as a spraycan.
May 15, 2010, 2:21 a.m. CST
He stencils. Many of them are traced and cut, not "drawn". He's a stuntman, not an artist.
May 15, 2010, 10:46 a.m. CST
Harry could be retarded. <p> Did I say "could?" I meant "is most certainly." <p> Congrats for discovering graffiti because of this movie! You're still a hopeless dork. "I have a friend who knows him!" You're a fucking idiot. <p> ...and later to the haters, because it's a great movie. <p> J.B.M.A.: Actually, the movie is BETTER and MORE INTERESTING if it's a clever fiction. Fail. <p> criticalbliss: "...less art than theatre [sic] masked by irony..." Sure, whatever the fuck THAT means. As if theater isn't art, and as if irony or masks are an innately bad thing. I doubt you could stencil anything half as well as Banksy. Or be as politically and socially relevant as Banksy OR Jackass.
May 15, 2010, 1:36 p.m. CST
The film is quite entertaining enough as it is without needing to be a 'joke within a joke'. But whatever floats your boat.<p> Criticalbliss I can only think that you are unaware of how monumentally crass and ignorant you are making yourself sound. As Skillz correctly points out, theatre is a perfectly relevant art form, though this is completely irrelevant to Banksy's personal drawing and painting abilities. As for "Many of them are traced..." - fucking prove it. Even if this were true, it would leave many that WERE drawn, so you're still grasping at straws like a blind man.
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My point is that Banksy functions not as a visual artist in the conventional sense. He's a Barnum and Bailey showman with little in the way of artistic craftsmanship. The stunt (tag) is more important than the art itself. And, yes, I can stencil and draw; hate to burst your methane bubble there. Now, do I consider myself an artist because I understand composition and have the skills to carry it out? No, not really. I consider myself a hobbyist. <p> However, this ridiculous worship of Banksy is an insult to REAL artists everywhere; the people dedicated and actually talented who spend their lives working in the field. I guess they could sell out, buy a can of spray paint and jackass a few sites with pseudo-socialist or anarchist platitudes (just throw in a pinch of winking irony to maintain one's hipster cred). Don't like it? Irritate you? That's cuz it's true.
May 16, 2010, 3:23 a.m. CST
The film itself is probably entertaining, whether it's staged or not. But that still doesn't change my opinion on street "art" done with spray paint and stencils. The whole conceit is ludicrous (which is why the film is likely to be entertaining on several levels). I plan on renting it sometime for a good laugh.
May 16, 2010, 7:07 a.m. CST
I don't give a monkeys if you can draw, stencil, work in oils or if you consider yourself an artist. None of that makes your infantile dismissal of Banksy any more credible - in fact it smacks of the usual "I can do better, honest" bullshit that these talkbacks are filled with. And please drop the sidetracking nonsense about it insulting 'real artists' who don't 'sell out' *vomits* - it's just embarrassing. I suspect it's probably a good thing that you consider yourself a 'hobbyist', given that your assessment of what qualifies as 'real art' is so cringworthy.<p>Don't like Bansky? Irritate you? Tough.
May 16, 2010, 8:51 a.m. CST
It doesn't matter if I can do better. It's the fact that most amateur artists exhibit more skill on an off day than Banksy has ever shown. If Banksy weren't playing coy circus games he'd be a nobody. He wouldn't even make it as a run-of-the-mill tattoo artist. If you don't like it; tough.
May 16, 2010, 8:53 a.m. CST
Since you like winking platitudes... The average fare at Spencer Gift Shop is more imaginative; it's just not stapled to a Disney wall.
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Agreed. In the credits, Theirry is only one of many credited with camera work. Banksy's tone and humor when discussing Theirry seem scripted. And really...Shepard Fairey doing work on the floor at Kinko's?
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