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First Pics Of Rebooted CONAN Find Their Way Online!
Beaks here...
Like it or not, Marcus Nispel's CONAN will probably be turning up in a theater near you sometime next year. No, it's not the epic KING CONAN re-teaming of John Milius and Arnold Schwarzenegger we were teased with years ago, but who's to say Nispel and young Jason Momoa can't do something just as iconic with Robert E. Howard's iconic character?
It's impossible to pass judgment on a handful of slightly blurry photos, but these images leaked to Latino Review suggest that Momoa... has muscles and can ride a horse. That's encouraging, right?
This is Latino Review's exclusive, so I'm not going to post the pictures in their entirety here, but here's a taste...
So head over to Latino Review for the images in full, then come back here to express your unbridled enthusiasm for Nispel's CONAN!
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or Hercules Legendary Journeys
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I was hoping he'd rock a dope poster for this film.
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even in the comics, images and video games Conan was always portrayed as pretty big which explains why Arnold originally got the role. but this guy is pretty small to look the part. though if Kevin Sorbo could pull off Hercules, maybe he can do this.
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Conamomoa does not exist in this dojo.
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Just like "Clash of the Titans", this too will suck. Mark my words. I'd much rather see an elderly, flabby Arnold return to the role than this dude.
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I still no interest in this project, though.
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I trust they're using good camera to make this look as rich as possible. That doesn't look like a Hyborean jungle to me though. And that's not Conan, it's Surfer Dan. At the risk of making a tastless joke, are we sure seeing this isn't what hastened Frazetta's passing?
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I am disappoint.
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It just doesn't work for me...
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To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!
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...what a wonderous setting, the woods behind my house.
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in the books, but he's way too small i think. also, i was hoping for an older conan story, one where he's king already. i don't care for the adventures of young conan all that much.
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Valor pleases you Crom, so grant me one request, grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then the hell with you!
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R.I.P.
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It's a black horse! They must got their shit right.
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Aas beat AICN again...go figure.. Pics look gay...
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Thats not Conan thats Tarzan. The original conan may have had black hair, but he didn't have brown eyes, a tan, a knee long leather skirt, or cruise around in a super green jungle.
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BOUAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHA AHHHHHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAHHAHA
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I mean he didn't have a natural tan. Call me racist, but conan wasn't hawaiian or filipino. And he should have big muscles. BIG MUSCLES
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seriously what is he barbarian of the hood now?
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wearing the leather speedo. You would have thought 300 and 2 Conan movies would have put their fears at ease.
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When I think Conan, I think exotic/far away locales. Not some random run-of-the-mill forest. This looks comparable to episodes of the Xena/Hercules shows. Fuck
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That looks really, really low-rent. Is this fucking XENA or the new Conan movie?
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I'd rather see Arnie's old ass back in the role than this pussy.
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The Conan book covers, Vampirella, 'real' looking women's bods (that somehow made them sexier), Creepy & Eerie magazine covers, and Betty Paige as a muse - the Frank Frazetta gallery sums up our fevered (and horny) youth more than any other artist. Thanks for the inspirations, Frank, and may you meet up with all the wenches of your creation on the Other Side.
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I'm THERE!
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...generic LARP wizard, armed with roman candles! <p> "Lightning bolt!" *throws ping pong ball* "Lightning bolt!" *throws another*
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that's what this is
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May 10, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST
I genuineley thought this was gonna be about Conan O'Brien's new
by Frankie Pigeon
I couldn't care less about this movie.
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the vultures wouldnt even pick u.
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Why is the guy behind the Friday the 13th and Texas Chainsaw remakes directing this movie? They couldn't get John Milius? Or someone with a more "epic" vision? There's no way this guy can do justice to Conan.
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No doubt the powers that be at AICN will put up an obit later today, but why not put some thoughts on that here now? I devoured Frazetta's stuff in middle and high school. I used to find old editions of the Ballentine collections at the local second-hand bookstore and then copy almost every image out of them in my sketchbooks. He then opened up the door to Kerenkel, Al Williamson and a host of others. Sad that he's gone, though I haven't seen any new work of his in years. (I understand that he had a stroke a few years ago and was re-teaching himself to draw with his left hand.) His wife just died, too. Only heard nice things about her.
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Some funny posts on here guys.<p> Even though I give this photo a pass (looks like someone snuck a quick pic with their cell phone)...I still have no faith in this at all.<p> I can guarantee you this:<p> Nu metal will be in the soundtrack.<p> It will be in 3D.<p> Conan Whoppers for everyone.
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Like cheapo 80's fantasy clap trap produced by Dino De Laurentiis, or Goram and Globus. Crap!
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I'll reserve judgement till I see this in action however if Pathfinder is any indication of the director capabilities I'm not going to hold my breath. But that's a great Khal Drogo look just pull the hair back in a braid and paste on a wicked fu-man-chu.
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he needs a fucking haircut
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I dont trust the ass fuckery on display here. The director is obviously as talented as JJ Gaybrams... only WORST! Who wouldhave thought it poossible??<P>IN NOLAN WE TRUST
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Here is an example of how different he could look depending on the pose<P> This<P> http://tinyurl.com/2ekmemz<P> Compared to this<P> http://tinyurl.com/27t2rnm
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who's to say Nispel and young Jason Momoa can't do something just as iconic with Robert E. Howard's iconic character?" <p> Well, me for starters.
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His work blew open doors and windows in my imagination I didn't know were there. <p> He brought a tangible and gritty realism to fantasy...an almost historical quality to pulp and fantasy themes which convinced you his scenes "happened" and he was there to document it for us. <p> And the women...holy shit.<p>
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He really steroided up. But he doesn't needed to be that big. Sorbo did Kull just fine.
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And that's saying something. This guy looks like a baddie on Hercules. And not even the main baddie, one of the lesser henchmen who stands behind the main guy guffawing and and slapping his fist into his other palm. Oh dear oh dear.
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this looks like one of those sub xena knock-offs.I picture conan against snow capped mountain ranges and deserts , not a bit of scrubland. Plus he does look too small/weedy.His hair should be jet black with a fringe cut [betty page} and his eyes blue.Theres a lack of bangles, bracelets and earings as well.It all seems so sparse and weak
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if it were for a sci-fi 'Adventures of Conan' tv series. And RIP Frank Frazetta. I saw a documentary on him a while ago, his post-stroke left-hand artwork was starting to look very interesting.
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and shot like a music video? Maybe they can have an all Nickleback soundtrack?
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He brought a level of artistry to fantasy that no one else has managed.I was watching the painting with fire docu ,the other day and thinking he aint got long...but his passing is still a shock.He was producing art right up until almost the end.and never lost "it" with age.
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Seriously couldnt find someone whose not a baywatch/Stargate hawaiin model! Does not look like Conan at all; terrible fuck up of casting.
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It looks like a terrible combo of Ares from Xena Warrior Princess and Jakey the Bottom Gyllenhaal in Prince of Persia. I grew up with the Milius version, but aside from the opening/slaver/pit fighter moments and the painted raid on the temple, as I got older and devoured the Savage Sword of Conan and novels, I always felt the movie missed it's mark . It appears this one will too. Such a shame in the face of Frazetta's passing. Imagine Conan in the hands of a Del Toro, painting a lush frazetta tinged world of thick legged ladies and hard looking brutal men and beasts.
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FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!
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I'm not a fan of hiring cheesy tv actors for iconic roles or serious reboots. But it's a uniquely physical role, so maybe this guy will do a good job--and, really, if the script is solid and the director knows what he's doing, Conan doesn't need to say a whole hell of a lot to be effective.
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...Howard never described Conan has being a gigantic bodybuilder. He was described as being very "panther-like". The guy is not too small to play Conan as Howard described him.
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So I'll give this a shot. What the hell, how bad can it be? And RIP Frank Frazetta.
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If anything, at least this tells me he looks exactly woy I picture Drogo from the George Martin´s novels. Nice! Oh,and as for Conan...give him a break. The guy´s huge and he looks more like Conan than Arnie. It´s too early to tell if he sucks or not. Chillax
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Not really seeing Conan there. I ofcourse hope for the best, as Conan would deserve an another good movie (yes, I like Barbarian).
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May 10, 2010, 3:18 p.m. CST
Arnold would use this kid as a tooth pick
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave
and then wipe his ass with the remains. This dude is a metrosexual Conan, a pansy. A eunuch Conan, Conan emascualted - I'll bet he treats his women in the film with chivalrous 'respect', instead of banging lusty whores and eating raw meat off the bone like King Arnie.
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Conan is more of a Hawaiian fashion model than he is a body-builder. Body-builders look pretty ridiculous onscreen. Jason is a worlds better actor than Arnold (faint praise) and a very believable choice for Conan (based on the stories).
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edit button?
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Bigger isn't always better when it comes to heroes, and he looks capable enough. I am kind of looking forward to the further, non-origin adventures of Conan, but I suppose they've got to "reboot" (or whatever) the franchise. I guess. Because we're too stupid to remember those movies everybody talks about and instantly recognizes, maybe? I dunno.<p><p>I hope it's good.<p><p>-Cheers
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Fuck this DTV shit
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this guy is to scrawny to be a real Conan, read the original Howard books.
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I got nothing.
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Den you probably elieve there are little baby Richard Simmons' running around! (strangled laughter)
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May 10, 2010, 3:25 p.m. CST
Is that the Prince of Persia riding a fucking Viva Pinata?
by double_ball_hanger
I think it is.
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May 10, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST
Unfortunately, they're not drawing from the imagery of "Age Of C
by ravenloff
Funcom's somewhat troubled, but visually stunning MMO did, I thought, and excellent job of capturing a unique look to the Conan universe. If they would have used that as a basis to work from, rather than the decidely medieval look from those pics, the big screen version would be truly wondrous to look at.
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What, they can't cast an actual BARBARIAN?!?!?!?
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looks bad
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More Grace Jones!!!!
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Almost did not recognize him without the dreads.
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about this guy not being Conan has not read Howard's books. He is not a Nordic dolt, he is a swarthy Celtic son of Atlantis. And bathman can go fuck his racist self.
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I don't believe anyone can think this will be even a reasonably average film let alone a good one. <br><br>Autodidact, respect hahahaha.
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Are you freaking kidding me with this. I hope this costs $100M to make and it pulls in $5M and bankrupts everyone associated with it. It looks like Robin Hood meets male Xena.
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... can't do something just as iconic with Robert E. Howard's iconic character?"<br><br>Answer in one word: PATHFUCKINGFINDER<br><br>What is it now, Marcus Niespel will be the next hack that AICN will kiss his ass and suck his dick in shameless sell-out promotion? Is the hype/ass-kissing machine starting to warm up?
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Hopefully he doesn't have a Baretta bird.
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Somewhere in the otherworld, Robert E. Howard is either laughing his ass off or swearing bloody terrible vengence.
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There is room for interpretation. I recall him being described as incredibly agile like a panther DESPITE his thick ropes of muscle, "giant" size etc. He's also supposed to look like the celtic people with dark hair and blue eyes. The thing is that even if he reads as a bit smaller the major thing that informs Conan's look is the marriage of Howard's Words and Frazetta's art along with things like the Savage swrod of conan. Those are the things burned into the collective consciouns (especially fans" as Conan's Look. To most of us who love Conan THESE images define him, and that Baywatch cat is not this. http://tinyurl.com/39d8537 http://tinyurl.com/3ydhp7e Furthermore why WOULDNT you want a very capable actor, not simply an ok one? Though Conan does not tend twoard being verbose when he does say something you'd want it to have WEIGHT. Think Kurt Russell in Escape From New York or Clint Eastwood in the Spaghetti Westerns.
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...or it won't be Conan.
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We kept saying that Superman needs to be big and look like a man. They kept saying we were being paranoid and that he'd be fine. Who was right in the end?
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But, yeah, gay. Very gay. Like The Rock's gay kid brother. Who The Rock fucked in the ass. What's the title of movie? Conan; The Midnight Nambla Rides the Ass of the Gay Conan who's NOT Arnold. And did I say it was gay? I'm gay, but that was G-A-Y. I'll go hetero tomorrow.
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The spy photos make it look like a syndicated tv, weekend afternoon, Beastmaster type of show.<p> But that's probably not really fair, since they ARE just spy photos.<p> Still, the forest setting gives off way too much of a "shot cheaply in Vancouver" type of vibe.
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The passing of an artist. He shall be missed. Condolences to his family, friends and fans.
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It will be even worse than McGs Terminator...
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The dark skin is also said to have been from exposure to the sun due to years of wandering. I'm not racist (which is where I see alot of the opposition comings from) but I mean apologists can not claim that this guy looks anything like Conan. Karl Urban actually looked a bit like the Buscema version of Conan in that piece of shit Pathfinder (thinner etc).
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When I heard who was going to be the new Conan I just thought wow he is nothing like the Conan I read about or even close to Arnold in the movies. Then I see these pictures and I'm like ok wait for video! They should have got someone like a Triple H! I don't know I'm just not getting a good feeling about this!
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I guess I should have read all the captions at the Latino Reviews page.<p> Only other movie I've seen (afaik) that was shot in Bulgaria was The Man With The Screaming Brain.<p> 'nuff said.
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...I want to see more! I justfind it ironic that these images find their way onto the internet the same day we hear of the passing of the great Frank Frazetta. Sad news to be sure. There were, and are, other artists who can capture sci-fi and fantasy, but not with the breathtaking style and overwhelming power that Frazetta's brush wielded. This man will be sorely missed...butr never forgotten. Swing your sword mighty Frazetta, and lay low the gates of Valhalla!
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so sad.
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Cimmeria is meant to have been where Scotland is now according to the REH stories (and that map that was in every CONAN book I ever bought) - and there's no Hawaiian surfer dudes in Scotland. He looks nothing like Conan. Oh, and Nispel DOES know they didn't have Pantene Pro-V in the Hyborian Age - doesn't he??<P> Epic fucking fail. No surprise there, then.
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default "big dude"
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That dude ain't Conan.
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May 10, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST
Yep, he definitely looks like an extra from Legend of the
by MobileAccess
Seeker.
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Dude does not in any way look like Conan to me. It just isn't there. I look at this and think that this guy makes Chris Evans look like the spitting image of Steve Rogers. That's how far off this is.
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hahaha... generic muscular stand in # 37. Miscellaneous bodybuilder/script reader. Oh well, there better be lots of female nudity, impalings, beheadings and other barbarian gore.
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Those women are fuckin sexy. I also like Momoa. But as everyone stated he is not Conan. Frazetta's image of Conan are iconic. As an artist I would be a bit agitated if someone I drew or painted was completely miscast as is the case right now. Momoa should get his own movie. He's a big guy not as muscular as Arnie but bigger than most people. He should be given a character people wouldn't be associated with an action movie Icon. Even though Arnold sucks as an actor.
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Actually, Robert Howard constantly used the word "giant" to describe Conan. As in, Conan was a very tall guy with a huge build. Read his stories again and check that out, it's there.
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HE gave us the definitive Conan! Thanks Frank, you are and always will be one of the illustration gods. Great talent, well used. RIP.
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I'll try to stay positive -- but seeing King Conan on screen WAS one of my dreams.
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The celts that Robert Howard hilmself believed was his ascendents and whom he based his Conan lived in the british islands, which if you know anything about geography, is not situated in the south of Europe. Conan was based on british celts, specially scotish. Those are people of the north. The guy hire to be the new Conan couldn't be mistaken for a celt not in a million years.
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Nuff said.
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when she finds out Jason Momoa is Conan. Myself, I'll hold out judgement until I see something more concrete. However, my BFF will probably go see it simply because of Momoa. I'll have to bring a drool bucket.
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... to hire the idiot who made PATHFINDER to direct a new Conan movie? Do this people who produce movies even like movies? I can tell this is a movie made with the same care of those who produce cheap tennis shoes sold 5 bucks a pair.
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Your BFF couldn't find a man of more substance to drool over? This guy look slike a female version of Megan Fox. Which will be playing Red Sonja anytime soon, so the comparison is apt. Can't your BFF droll on a guy who would be the male counterpart of, say, Marion Cottilard?
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Seriously, just, fuck it. Looks like donkey crap. So annoyed I can't even muster the use of an exclamation point. Bleh.
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Friend, just tell us what you really think. It will be fun reading your rant. Do it for sport, let it out of your chest.
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Seriously where's Uwe and Statham?
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really sux for us.
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GREATEST FANTASY PAINTER WHO EVER LIVED!!!!!!!! HECK THE BEST ARTIST WHO EVER LIVED!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know he was never the same after the stroke. It's just a shame. I wanted to ask him so many questions.
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though I was hoping he might keep the beard for a while. <br /> <br /> also, RIP Frank Frazetta, who greeted the Death Dealer with "I created YOU." <br />
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Sorry kid, I'm sure you have a wonderful career ahead of you but Conan you are not.
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...of why everyone seems to hate PATHFINDER. Seriously. Get past the generic "IT IS TEH SUCKKK!!!" and give me real fucking reasons why you lot hated that movie. Because I watched it and fucking loved it - the stylised visuals, the action, Urban's performance, Clancy Brown's performance, the story - I fucking LOVED it. Presumably many of you disagree with me. Let's have a real fucking discussion about this, because you CANNOT have seen the same movie as me. I don't have a problem with Nispel's visuals - hell, he made Biel more beautiful in the TCM remake than she has been in anything else but POWDER BLUE - but WHY do you all hate PATHFINDER so fucking much??
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...we got a Teen Conan. Awesome (sarcasm).
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"has muscles and can ride a horse. That's encouraging, right?"<p> As the Greek philosophers observed, if we set our standards low enough we can be happy with anything.
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and just incase you didn't get the kist of the message; AWFUL! AWFUL! AWFUL! AWFUL! AWFUL! AWFUL! Please stop all production NOW!!
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i think all this criticism is premature.... the guy is 6, 4. and to be honest he actually looks a bit like the buscema version of conan... it'll all change if the director does a blinder on it. lets just wait, shall we?
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Destroy the evil Serpent Men lead by the evil sorcerer Wrath-a-Leno.
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They could make a great Conan movie.t
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Just wondering.
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Reading all the Conan comics now starting with the 70s Savage Sword.... this looks nothing like any iteration of the character I've ever seen. Conan is a mountain of a man - the kind of guy who stands out among muscular men. Couldn't they find some juicehead to roid-rage for 90 minutes?
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Arnie was no thespian but he had great presence. I won't be paying to see this on general fucking principle and I hope it dies a quick death.
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Legend of the Seeker, any other 90's-to-now medieval fantasy tv romp I left out. That's what I think we're getting with this. What a way cheapen a franchise that was once so great
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he looks soft in the midsection and not as big as Conan should be. he also looks mexican. i think they dropped the ball big time with the casting.
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...starring Lorenzo Lamas???
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May 10, 2010, 4:47 p.m. CST
He's too clean and pretty to be Conan! This looks horrible!!!!
by Orionsangels
It's got that clash of the titans, prince of persia, made for tv hercules feel to it! ugh i'm sick to my stomach!
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... is that this has all the telltale signs of a failure to be. Though so myself. From the director of PATHFINDER, expect crap.
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Set the record for the most decapitations in a movie trailer and you'll see people come around.
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May 10, 2010, 5:05 p.m. CST
Nah, aint cutting it from those pix, Milius's vision was better
by KillaKane
But then he was reverential to Frazetta and had major artisitic talent like Bill Stout and Ron Cobb driving his vision. I'd still prefer to see a grizzled and battle scared Frazetta Conan, this dude just isn't imposing enough, just another vacant pretty boy himbo.
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This film has the word boom written all over it thanks to bad casting!!!
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where the sorbs at??
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Why the fuck else would they cast him as Conan? His name will not sell tickets, and he does not look the part; and his past acting is Stargate and Baywatch. No other logical reason!
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May 10, 2010, 5:11 p.m. CST
should cast someone who can´t do beauty/hair product ads.....
by theDannerDaliel
Conan should be harsh....
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You pretty much picked the worst possible Conan. I hate Momoa as Conan, but at least he can enunciate words and not come off like a retard.
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THESE CELLPHONE PICTURES DEFINE THE FILM! IT'S LIKE THAT HIGH-HEELED TINY PREDATOR SCANDAL! ABANDON ALL HOPE!
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I know Basil is dead...but still... his score rocks.
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It looks like an episode of Legend of the Seeker. This guy just doesn't fit in the role of Conan. I'm skipping this one for sure.
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May 10, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST
I'm sure Harry is working on a Frank Frazetta obit as we speak.
by The Reluctant Austinite
Frazetta was the true Conan artist, and he'll be missed. He's such an important figure in the AICN world that it'll take more than a few quickly typed words to properly put his work in perspective. Hold on, and I'm sure we'll hear from someone at AICN about his life and work soon.
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I'd like to know who will compose the score for this movie, and how he will even atempt to compete with Basil Pouledoris' score. If he's remotly smart, he will not evne try. Which also means it will be a bland unmemorable score. Or will they chose Hans Zimmer or one of his usual minions? They do the scores of every movie made in Holywood this days. And the majority sucks ass.
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when Hollywood reboots one of my beloved childhood movies on a budget of 20 million run by a bunch of clueless hacks
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that movie wasn't too bad. Lol.
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is one of the most bad-ass, iconic movie themes in the history of themes! Note that MANY movies (like gladiator) use it as temp music until they finish a score. (That or Mars: bringer of war). Basil OWNS!!!
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May 10, 2010, 5:40 p.m. CST
Just learned this movie is a 100 million dollars production
by AsimovLives
Does that look like a 100 million dollars production to you? I have seen 5 million dollars russian movies which look more epic then this!
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STOP IT.
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...(speaking of 5 mil. Russian flicks).
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well. the set and costume design and location scouting and art direction look pretty weak from these poorly composed cell phone snapshots, but at least they have a decent special effects budget.
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Where is the shirtless picture that was shown on other sites (before this site btw)?! No worries guys... not only is he way more buff than a "surfer dude"... lol because he's an "action dude"... he pwned with all kinds of weapons in SG: Atlantis. Arnold?... probably not but he's not a patsy as many of you seem to think?!
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Yay Flicka!
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Consider yourself thumbed. Unless you intended to disparage and use WOLFHOUND (which I though was pretty great) as you disparagerage. In which case I will have to forcefully relocate the thumb.
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these gay and depressing Conan pics deserve the top talkback! need more CROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMm
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HOW COULD YOU LET THIS HAPPEN
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If this guys a barbarian than I'm a ninja master. Maybe it's gonna be called Conan the Sissy Samoan
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...but that might be because the greatness of the movie kept distracting me from the subtitles.<P> And it added to the strangeness and mystery of the Russian fantasy setting.
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Polish grandmother, born of Russians. Slavic fantasy is the shit, yo.
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Hard to judge just off of set pics, but it has a kind of Roar or TV Beastmaster look just from what's shown. Hmm....
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...low tech...the end want a little LOTR.<P> I'm not so much knocking the end as complimenting the rest of the movie.
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and not blurry. spy photographer fails. this is 2010 and blurry digital photos are unacceptable. GTFO WITH THEsE SHITTY PHOTOS YOURE MAKING ME DEPRESSED
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Naked oiled bodybuilders should stay in Steven Seagal's bedroom where they belong!
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I feel that WOLFHOUND earned it, in a way that LOTR never did. While LOTR dry humps your face with three hours of EXTRAVAGANZA, WOLFHOUND was very grounded, very practical -- so that impressive moment both build on the tangible foundation of the rest of the film to be more believeable, and did something no modern film has the balls to do -- save the big effects for when they'll have the most meaning.
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...WOLFHOUND in LOTR.
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this poor actor knows that he can only fail to copy Arnold in every possible way. I'm not a racist, but Conan has to be white. Or is the title changend to "Conan the Mexican"?
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He laughs from his mountain.
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You've got to be fucking kidding me. Watch Stargate Atlantis, the guy can play a bad ass.
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Watch Stargate? Why would i subject mysefl to such hell?
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Frank Frazetta, the greatest artist of the past 50 years dies today, he gave us the best, most iconic images of Conan...and it's spit upon by these images of Nispel's gay ass Hawaiian Conan. Fucking pathetic. You couldn't have waited ONE fucking day to post this shit? Learn some respect.
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I'm planing watching WOLFHOUND. Vern's very positive review mad eme curious about it.
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This is terrible upon terrible. Frank dies, and this movie is being made. Boo.
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Firstly, I could care less about all the racial theorising. Howard was writing a fictional pre-history, it's not worth getting bogged down in details of exactly what Cimmerians should look like. Secondly, my experience of Momoa is limited to Rodin in SG:A, and in that he manages to 'look' big, and also move with a certain grace. He's not as obviously buff as Arnie but I don't think he's that bad a physical fit for the role. I quite agree that the costume design looks wrong. The leather skirt might have historical precedent, but Howard's pretty clear that Conan spends most of his time dressed in only a loincloth. Let's face it, that'd bring in the ladies.(And though I'm no expert, it seems Momoa's looks will make Conan's ability to seduce any woman fairly feasible) Set pics look OK. I'm assuming that a lot of the visual atmosphere will be added later as is usual. I admit, the original's combo of Arnie, THAT score, and overall style is going to be tough to match, let alone beat, but I'm interested to see them try.
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was one of the greatest and most inspiring artists of our time. He inspired the imaginations and interests of millions of kids and adults. Hopefully one day I will have a nice collection of his work. <p> He did such a great job of making things look real, mostly because the people had all their gritty details. I'll always remember the women; they had proportions that always fit with their body type, and he wasn't shy about adding those little creases that no one else does. I'll always remember the men; their eyes, especially, and the way they just looked so...real. More real than almost any other painting.<p>Although I'm glad he won't have to see this crap of a Conan movie.
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...most often as wearing the clothing of the land he happens to be adventuring in at the time.
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...inspired movie.<P> Frazetta women do exist in nature, but we haven't seen any on screen in decades.
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I can't say why I think yet another remake will fail but call it intuition.
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So I cry for him. <p> RIP Conan franchise.
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May 10, 2010, 6:29 p.m. CST
They gave 40 millions to John Woo to make a movie in China
by AsimovLives
and he came up with the mega-epic RED CLIFF. They gave 100 millions to this Marcus Nispel assclown, and the movie looks like an episode of XENA. What the fuck is wrong with this picture? Oh yeah, the budget will be used for the CGI... as in, over-elaborate CGI crap whose only porpose is to try to distract the viewers from the shit that the story and direction is. except lots of fly-by CGI impossible camera movement shots to awe the slackjaws. Also, expect lots and lots and lots of panoramic helicopter shots showing off the natural locations with the main characters runing or riding around, pseudo-LOTR style. And this time, Conan will be PC sensitive to womenfolk and strangers. Fuck, i haven't seen the movie yet and i can already guess what it will be like. This fucking hacks never fail to not impress me.
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After all, didn't The Lovely Bones cost WAY more than $100 million?
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... it would even make Conan cry.
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100 millions is always a lot! Only in Hollywood demented madness would a budget of 100 millions be considered "not all that much". Insanity! Check out RED CLIFF, that's what 40 million dollars really looks like, when Hollywood bulhshit is taken out of the equasion.
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Are the old films on Blu-Ray by any chance? I've practically worn the Barbarian DVD out if such a thing is possible, but a BR would fool me during a drunken haze that it was the new film. Looks bad I guess...I'll give it a try. BUT: one thing I know they'll never come close to was that fantastic score from Basil Poledouris.
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That was what I was looking for. If this reboot is going to be rated R, it could be great like the original. If it is PG-13, it will suck like Conan the Destroyer.
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Any guy who understands why Marion Cotillard is a higher quality female than Megan Fox is OK in my book.
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I love how everyone just "knows" the movie is gonna be shit from the production photos.
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I imagine it will be in the Pathfinder style, which wasn't too bad. That movie had shitty sets and costumes too and I think they added a thick grainy post effect so you couldn't tell how bad it looked, so that style will work perfectly for this movie.
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is sam raimi producing this shit?
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http://tinyurl.com/q2o8jh O.K. after watching this I feel better. There's no way this can possibly look nearly as bad as those photos
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Run on the Conan series wer're actually amazing. I loved especially his origin story "Born on the battlefield" It seems Momoa is wearing Conans garb from Busiek's run......I hope they take that route it may actually be quite fun!
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Is a serious attempt to do Howard's creation some cinematic justice. Whether this is it or not remains to be seen.
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May 10, 2010, 7:20 p.m. CST
Unfortunately, "Frazetta Women" are now known merely...
by JayLenoTookMyJob
...as "Fat". And yeah, that does suck. I prefer at least some curves as opposed to the "cocaine diet" look. Besides, all that teeth grinding is irritating.
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The director of this movie needs his nuts stepped on.
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Any American male over 35 has spent at least a few minutes riding around in a beat up Chevrolet an with a bad airbrush painting of Death Dealer on the side. And younger dudes remember that Wolfmother cover art from a few years ago, I'm sure. I used to have all Frazetta's print collection books and even managed to collect some of his old comics work back when I was heavily into collecting comics. Now we're stuck with Boris Vallejo, the Canada of fantasy/sword & sorcery artists.
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I watched Jason Momoa on Stargate Atlantis... to say he was stiff when he started was an understatement; a 2x4 had more dramatic range. But over the seasons, he grew more comfortable with the role to where he became a very interesting character. Is Momoa ready to carry a feature-length movie? Don't know about that one... keeping my fingers crossed that it will be good.
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That way at least it will have Conan's level of violence and sex! That and "Kill them All" is the best episode of any show this year!
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May 10, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST
Is Conan wearing flip-flops, or ninja boots? He needs He-Man boo
by CodeName
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Momoa is the baddest, most kick-ass Conan there ever was, unlike that Austrian girly-man Schwarzenegger, who turned Conan into a slave that spent 25 years chained to a mill and then had to dress up like some confused, sissy, cock-hungry hippy commune member just to sneak into Thulsa Doom's temple. Momoa the Barbarian would not put on Scientology drag and go undercover. My man Jason would climb up the wall bare-chested with a sword on his hip and a dagger between his teeth, stealth-like, and cut the throats of any guard who happens to get in his way. Momoa is Conan.
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An absolute waste. I expect shitty things from this Conan.
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Spartacus rules.
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man do i hate this. this guy looks like a tool.
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FRANK FRAZETTA IS DEAD! Nothing else matters. In a perfect world, when Frazetta died, everything would have just faded away into nothingness.
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I really want an awesome new Conan movie. Even though this dude doesn't look exactly like the quentessential Conan from the mind of Frank Frazetta, neither did Arnold, but he was damn close. I'll reserve any judgement until the end credits roll.<P> It would seem to me that the formula for a kick-ass new Conan movie would be pretty simple. T 'n A and LOTS of blood. Keeping the original theme would be a huge plus too. Especially with the narration. Hearing the tribal drums, then the voice of the Chronicler giving his account of the legend of Conan, followed by the "Anvil of Crom", I just KNOW from that intro that I'm in for a fuckin' Epic story.
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I had know idea he had passed away today until I began reading this talkback. what a sad day indeed. I myself am an artist and aspiring illustrator, and Frazetta has served as inspiration to me for many years.
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May 10, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST
Conan takes place during a gritty savage age. Why is he a model
by Orionsangels
He should have scars on his body, un-straightened unwashed hair and grimy attire. Everything is too clean, like the Hercules TV show. This is going to be God awful!
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...a kickass little B movie every single week.<P> I sure hope that guy recovers from the big C.
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Will bitch slap this chump. Anyway, this movie already looks like Xena Warrior princess. Is it too early to call for a reboot?
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May 10, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST
Pathfinder while disappointing, had an awesome look.
by fatjesuschrysler
The only reason I enjoy the movie is for some of the great photography and costume design. Let's hope Nispel can apply that to this new Conan.<P>
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What's next? Jay Leno dressing up Whiplash from Iron Man 2 (no legs)?
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I'm so disappointed. I just feel drained, nay, gutted when I look at these pics. Conan The Barbarian, the first movie, the books (by Howard and others), the comic books (The Barbarian, Savage Sword, The King, even all the Dark Horse series large and mini) have been a major part of my life. When I think about the way this "dude" looks in the above pics, along with the fact that somebody will probably LIKE the damn movie, it just feels as if I've been punched in the guy. So, sooooo disappointed.<P>Anyway, hopefully Spartacus will be back soon.
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But punched in the guy parts is also appropriate description.
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I can sum it up with one sentence: Karl Urban kills his entire tribe of warriors with a poorly made booby trap intended for the vikings.
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So, I guess big muscles were SOOO 1982. Nobody apparently enjoys their heroes to be "bigger than life." Apparently, audiences need a person that 'everyman' can connect with, even though this movie takes places in a mystical realm with magic, swords and sorcery. Awesome.
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gonna have a wild wahiinii weekend
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Just stumbled upon this: <p>http://www.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/Red_Tails_movie_image-8.jpg <p>It's from the set of George Lucas' upcoming "Red Tails". Good Christ, Rick McCallum is morbidly obese!! Did he go on an eating binge after the disaster that was the Star Wars prequels? I think he just decided he felt the need to "out-fat" Lucas.
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rumored to be in the works about a year ago? Starring Djimon Hounsou. It sounded interesting.
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CONAN THE 'OBRIENAN!
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aw, fuck it...
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The director Howard McCain would've been better than Nipsel, damn hack, but he's got his lips and anus wrapped around Michael Bay's cock
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it looks okay but it still isn't conan to me. whatever.
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...I'd see the words; "Sorbo did okay in Kull" on this site. Fucktards.
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Atlantis was a good show, you fuck. But since you don't watch it you wouldn't know that would you?
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I'm sure if it. I think we've all seen the Arnold movie and think that's Conan. Period.
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Don't give a rat's arse about a one-dimensional character like Conan, but these pics show the lad is definitely spot-on for Khal Drogo!
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what the fuck? im bigger than this guy. infact im pretty dam sure i could kick his ass. sad. very very sad.
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Howard described Conan as "lithe as a panther", black-haired, dark-eyed and copper-skinned. Mamoa fits that description perfectly. My only doubt, apart from the Hercules/Xena production values, is if Mamoa can be Conan -- ie, can we believe he'd rip your head off then proceed to beat another man to death with it?
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Cut me a slice of that...On second thoughts: Fuck off. Another Conan is just what we needed. <p>FUCK. OFF.
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[obvious joke]
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It's in his contract.
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pure absolute garbage
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My prediction. I guess we'll have to wait for a true Conan flick.
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Go look up how small and scrawny men where back when the Conan stories were written.
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my heart longs for thou, not long ago thou used to fill the void in my heart. if it werent for thou,i wouldve dropped out of high school. please come back to me!
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I feel your pain, brother. As someone who loves the Milius movie and the Howard's writen stories (and i know as bit of the old Sword Of Conan Marvel comics), i reeally understand what you are saying and feeling. And it's from the director of PATHFINDER. The same guy who mannaged to fuck up a movie about indians vs vikings! What a clown!
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sequel or otherwise creatively deprived idea that has been told a zillion times. Sherlock Holmes - skip. Robin Hood - yawn - skip, and so on, and so on.
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By "lithe" what Howard wanted to say is that Conan is very agille, and suprisingly so because of how physically huge he is. Howard here goes for effect, as he constantly describes Cona as a huge fellow, most people would think "he's a hulk, all strengh and slow in actions" and then Conan pulls panter-like agility. Cona is described to be at the peak of physical abilities a human can ever be, in both strenghs and agillity. He's both. and remmeber, Howard was writing this stories in the late 20s and early 30s, back then people usedthe same wordsas today but they many times had different meanings from today«'s english colloqualism. for example, back then people would use the word "gay" to mean "happy" and "enjoyment" and "queer" to mean "strange". When onereads howard's stories, one must take into account the type of english used by people back then and the way people spoke back then.
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there are many of them here ... DVD! DVD! DVD! DVD! DVD! DVD! DVD!
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I take into account and say GAY!
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That is coming from a guy that voluntarily has sex with men!
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Look at the size of the Heavy Weight boxing champs of the age. <br> The weight that heavyweights had to make at that time was like 205 or at 215lbs. <br> Most men were well under 6 feet tall. Being 5'9 was considered tall for a regular guy.
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Fuck yourself, friend. I don't like SG Atlantis because it's derivative, boring, imaginationless, clichéd and most actors look like models with limited acting experience, cast because of looks instead of talent. So sue me if i find the show pretty poor and can't give a shit about it. And your beloved meathunk Momoa or whatever the fuck he's called is as wrong to play Conan as wrong can get. Deal with it.
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Since they are shooting it in Bulgarian, it's a cheap balkan forest.
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This will be the worst Conan movie ever. The actor does not look a warrior, he would need to be stronger. This movie will be a failure, fans of Conan, like me, will not go to cinema to watch. We will remember Schwarzenegger's Conan in our minds forever. Although some people say the opposite, Schwarzenegger's Conan is more real than this one.
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"They will ruin Conan's character"<br><br>Well, they already have a pretty good head start with the terrible casting of the lead.<br><br>What amazes me is that so many people are refusing to read the writing in the wall and still have hopes and optimism about how the movie will turn out. This type of blind optimism is just sick! It's not a quality, it's a cripling problem in need of urgent solution.
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My horse is amazing. - Conan
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dude with the beard in the lawn chair looks like Malky.
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That's director Marcus Nispel.
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I am sad
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I'm pessimistic about this. I don't see a need for a remake, but I'll give it a chance. Can't tell much from a few bad cell photos. I just remember the outrage when folks here heard Heath Ledger was playing the Joker, and the haters had to eat their words. We'll see.
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Oh well, they'll just remake it again. IN 3D!
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but the build is just not there. I met Jason at DragonCon in Atlanta and he's a cool dude but I just don't see it. It was John Milius, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and a great score by Basil Poledoris that made Conan a great adventure movie. This movie is doomed right out of the gate.
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that's all i can think of when i see this guy, one of those mash face cats. and it looks like a guy's backyard. i half expect to see a shot in the final movie where you see a dude walking away from one of those creepy dairy queen parking lot isolated places that are all over the south.
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this looks ass. the guy looks ass. he looks like he's going to do the whole movie through a weed stupor and go huh huh huh huh huh in the middle of dialogue and choke every so often and then ask thulsa doom where the dude keeps his funny bones.
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... Conan is tanned from his adventures in the southern kingdoms of Kush and whatnot. As in, those are desert kingdoms of the south. So, the idea i get is that Conan is not tanned skinned because he was born that way, but because of a life spent in the outdoors. And a skin tanned by the sun does not look like how this dude hired to play Conan looks like. Tha tguy has a natural bronish skin colour because he's samonean, it's genetic. Conan is a pale skinned celt whose skin got tanned by the sun from living in the outdoors. Watch anybody who has their naturally pale skin tanned by something other then trips to the beach with sun protection and hydrating products, and you can tell the look will be nothing like this dude has. Look at photos of older times about people who worked in the outdoors, oil riggers, crop farmers, cowboys, lumberjacks and whatnot, and you will know what i'm talking about. White people with skin tanned due to outdoor activity does not look at all what this guy looks. The excuse of "he has the right tan skin colour" argument is not good. People have to deal with the fact this dude was not cast because he's the right guy for the role, but because he's the new pretty boy that Hollywood wants to push on the public as the new star to be.
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Headless, to boot.
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And the people who made SCORPION KING really took the movie very seriously! I can understand filmmakers goign for cheese with SCORPION KING, but this is CONAN, for fuck's sake! It should be taken with some respect! Look at what John Milius did, that's how you do a Conan movie. What's so fucking hard to understrand?
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is not very faithful to Howard's Conan.
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Maybe, but he was to the spirit of Howard stories, and his movie shows respect for them, and treats them with the uttermost respec,t as shown by the serious tone the movie has, despiste the genre itr belongs. And more important, Milius made one hell of a good movie.
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It seems like a lot of us are damning this movie already based on the look of Conan. He's not right. He's too dark. His skin looks natural instead of tanned. <p> We say these details are indicative of a director who doesn't care about the source material, and that's part of a larger problem, therefore the movie will suck. <p> Well, you can not say these things about the new Conan and then dismiss similar criticisms about Milius's version. I don't think that makes much sense. <p> Schwarzenegger doesn't look like Howard's Conan either. But we justify that and say "Yeah, but he was to the spirit of Howard's stories and his movie shows respect for them," and that it had the right serious tone and whatnot. <p> My point is this: Who's to say that ISN'T the case with the new Conan? Sure, I don't think it will be good based on the director's track record, but I don't think its fair to say this new movie won't have the right tone based on casting alone. Because again, look at Arnie as Conan. There is nothing here to suggest the new movie won't have the right tone just because they hired the Mamoan as Conan, in my opinion.
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Strange, how a lot of alien worlds look like a forest near Vancouver. Those forests were common in the Hyborian age too.
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if the new movie respects the spirit of the books,then we shouldnt criticize the casting of Mamoan either.
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Cause this looks TV generic.
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Because I can't help but stare at a train wreck in progress. Arnold worked because of his Austrian accent... fragmented English... his crudeness... his body structure. He was what many ppl would consider a "barbarian" despite not being the exact description from the novels, etc. This new guy... I expect him to jump on a surf board any minute.
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This new guy has NOTHING on... <br> http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh88/gristlefirth/conan.jpg <br> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlP_i6L6Xxg&feature=related
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Its contradictory behavior.
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Conan is not a pretty boy pacific islander. He's a physically massive, full of scars, deep browed, blue eyed, hairy chested, black (with a square-cut) haired Cimmerian!!! (Think Celt or Norseman looking).
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he is definitely not in the category of heavyweights bodybuilders.He is strong and flexible but not too muscular.i always imagined him as the indian guy from the Predators,a bit less muscular though.
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And you can fuck that shitty picture of a horse.
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I'm detracting this movie because of the fucking hack director that's making it, and the couldn't be more wrong actor chosen for the lead role. And yeah, i really dig Howard's stories, they were grea,t and they deserved a cinematic treatment better then the one it will get from this proved hack. Sue me if i actually like the movies good.
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Conan is supposed to be very massive. He's constantly described as a giant of a man, time and again. He's physically very imponent, and that's the very first image he transmits to anybody who sees him for the first time.<br><br>Really, are we now even discussing how big Conan is? Really? Of all things! If ever there was a constant about all the prepresentations of conan regardless of media, is that he's a hugh motherfucker.<br><br>Forget it, dudes, you will not find a good argument to support the casting of the surfer dude. Unless you find him unresistably sexy.
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have you auditioned the guy?
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... from the guy who did PATHFINDER?? Really??? From that guy? You learned nothing yet? This is the guy who mannaged to fuck up something which was fuck-up proof, a kick-ass movie about indians vs vikings. And yet, this hack, this idiot, this clown, he fucked it up. How the fuck you fuck up a movie about indians vs viking? How's that evne possible? and ye,t he did. And you have hopes this movie MIGHT be true to Howard's spirit? GET OUT OF HERE! You got to be kidding me! What is this, Candid Camera? This' a joke?
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Though Howard never gave a strict height or weight for Conan in a story, only describing him in loose terms like "giant" and "massive", he did once state that Conan and another of Howard's characters, the crusader Cormac Fitzgeoffrey, were "physical doubles" at 6'2" and 210 lb (188 cm and 95 kg, a description of Howard's own height and weight). In the tales no human is ever described as stronger than Conan, although several are mentioned as taller (such as the strangler Baal-pteor) or of larger bulk. In a letter to P. Schuyler Miller and John D. Clark in 1936 only three months before Howard's death, Conan is described as standing 6 feet and weighing 180 pounds when he takes part in an attack on Venarium at only 15 years old, though being far from fully grown. Although Conan is muscular, Howard frequently compares his agility and way of moving to that of a panther (see for instance "Jewels of Gwahlur," "Beyond the Black River" or "Rogues in the House"). <p>Momoa's physical measurements: <p>Height:6'5,Weight:210lbs <p>well its very obvious that they have fucking nailed Conan as his physical appearance goes.
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Give me a break! Conan is fundamentally a character whose personaly cames from actions not words. He's mostly a silent character, one with momentaly melancolies and brooding, as Howard constantly describes him. And the way he looks is important. The way an actor looks is FUNDAMENTAL to how to play the character. Because to play Conan, that's the tools the actor will have to use the most, his physicallity. and tha tis not just swinging swords around. And this surfer guy, he doesn't even remotly look like conan in an yof the interations of the character has been previously portaite,d or mor eimportnatly, as he's describe in Howard's own prose. The dude is wrong in all the most important aspects. And things get even worst because they didn't even tried to make up him to try to look like a northern european, a dark haired pale skinned celt. They even't bothered to cake him up and put a wig. He just looks liek a samoean surfer, like his normal szelf. Oh, wait, he doesn't have dreadlocks, that's the big improvement? Fuck that shit.<br><br>The filmmakers of this movie are not giving a fuck. And they hired this guy because somebody involved in the decision making process has a huge hard on on him. This movie has fail writen all over it. Deal with it.
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You know who's also very tall? STEVEN SEGAL. You know who's also very tall? Zachary Levi! So, by your logic, those two should also make great actors to play Conan?<br><br>Try to find in any of howard's tales any indication that Conan could be mistaken for a samoan. Find me one single case. and don't you evne dare bring the "tanned skin" stuff, i already debukled that shit in a previous post, in quite detail.<br><br>Dude, we are allies in our just cause against Abramanito's SCUM TREK, don't disapoint me now. This is Conan, dude, not the Scorpian King. Show some respect.
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...and would normally be all about giving this production (and Momoa, based on his casting as Khal Drogo) the benefit of the doubt, but I still get the feeling that no matter how much we hope for the best, Lucy will be pulling the football away at the last minute, as usual.
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appearance until now? now our problem is his acting as Conan? well unless you have auditioned him as Conan and see how he went,then STFU. <p>in fact,as someone else correctly pointed out,it was Arnold's lack of acting skills and stiffness that made him so believable as a Barbarian.So being concerned about acting kills is a bit irrelevant when talking about Conanr right? <p>yes Momoa does have the physical appearance,but does he also have the physical presence? well i have to watch him on film in order to judge him properly and not from some blurry pics,so until then all of you STFU.
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What's to be open minded about this movie? It's to be directed by a proven hack and the guy casted is wrong for the part.
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but lets see him first on film,we dont know how they are going to use makeup and lighting on him.
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"yes Momoa does have the physical appearance"<br><br>In what way? In what way does should be be confused with Conan?<br><br>"Arnold's lack of acting skills and stiffness that made him so believable as a Barbarian"<br><br>Heh? Are you kidding? Conan is one of Arnold's best acting jobs, if not his best. I know, sounds like not much, but in regarding to Conan, it actually is. There's actually pretty good acting in arnold in Milius' Conan. i say this, and i was never much of a Arnold's fan. But i'm going to give the devil his due. And Arnold for all his flaws, he can act look like a badass even without swinging swords around. The samoan guy, not so much.
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...but while Momoa's not perfectly cast as Conan, he's not the worst they could have done. Also, he's been cast in the part of Khal Drogo (a nigh-invincible Mongol-styled horse lord in a semi-fantasy setting) for the upcoming HBO series Game of Thrones, a part for which he's almost note-perfect... and he's apparently not a bad actor, so based on that (and his physicality, which is actually pretty apt for Conan) I'm keeping an open mind about his portrayal. <p> I'm less inclined to give Nispel the benefit of the doubt. I haven't seen Pathfinder, so I have nothing to base it on, but there's nothing to suggest this is going to be any more faithful to Howard's books than the Milius version. And given the shoddy state of remakes and reboots these days, just the fact that they're rebooting Conan at all is enough to raise red flags. Still, I'm not going to hop on the hater express JUST yet. Give it a little bit longer, let's see a little more of the production, and we'll have more on which to rationally base our judgments. That's all I'm saying.
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...he just doesn't look *dangerous* enough. More than any one physical trait (height, bulk, etc.), Conan is described in the books as having a dangerous, animal-like edge, a primal aspect that's visceral, and it goes along with an overall image which is dangerous but appealing to women and intimidating but endearing to men.<p>*That's* what was right about Arnold's Conan. It wasn't his bicep size. It was the sum of all his traits - he was tall, strong, good-looking, but also had a raw, unrefined, dangerous, slightly unhinged quality about him.<p>Whether it's exactly the ratio Howard described, Arnold had a really rare combination of elements which was completely convincing in the role.<p>It's hard to think of anyone currently who has the same presence, charisma, and range of barbarian traits (from the almost child-like revelry of sensory indulgence to the crazed anger of battle, all blended with savvy) that Arnold displayed.<p>When I look at the photo of this new guy on the horse, I can almost see a John Buscema drawing - brooding, grimacing face turned slightly downward. But in every other image I've seen of the guy, I see a SyFy-type actor who looks way too pleasant, too clean, too pretty.<p>Here's hoping they stun the heck out of all of us and make something that's true to the source. I'm skeptical - I doubt the studio fools will see faithfulness as the best source of quick cash - but I hope they have the ambition to really try something difficult.
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...and I wanted to ask the geek hive mind, what's with the guy at the beginning, the guy with a dreadlocked beehive and a brightly colored facial tattoo on his chest, who squats on a rock and does some intense lamaze breathing while glaring at a fishing 8-year-old Conan, then jumps off and runs away before the attack on the village. I may have been slightly buzzed while watching it, but I got the impression that this guy just ran in from another movie, took a quick dump on a rock, and ran back to whatever other fantasy movie he came from. I want to watch his movie!
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The guy's artwork was so iconic for characters like Conan or John Carter of Mars.
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<p>Conan as described by Hoawrd: 6'2" and 210lb,black long hair,dark skin from sun,Celt <p>Momoa: 6'5" and 210lb black long hair,dark skin from race,Samoan <p>Arnold Schwarzenegger 6'2",250lb,blond hair,pale skin,Austrian. <p>if you have a problem with Momoa's appearance then you should have a problem with Arnie's appearance too since you are so sensitive with the faithfulness of the books.double standards for the shake to hate something,anyone?
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but he was not exactly the Conan of the books.there is no problem with that.BUT the whiners here are making a mistake.they are comparing Momoa with Arnie istead of comparing him with the Conan of the books,since this new film is NOT a remake but a new adaptation of the books.but i guess nostalgia is too strong to let someone think properly when judging films even though he has never watched them yet.
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has a massive Cock, he must he is Conan
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Hoping for the best, but not looking all that wonderful. If they're gonna go for relatively unkown or cheap actors, the guy whp plays Crixus (sorry probably didn't spell it right) in Spartacus: Blood and Sand would have been kickass. Looks like a fucking monster, can act, has screen presence, and kinda looks like he stepped out of a Frazetta painting.Seriously. Too late now though.
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hide his tattoo?
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You cant say the Mamoan is wrong for the part but champion Schwarzenegger as being right. I love him as Conan. I hated Pathfinder and expect this movie to suck bc Of the director. <p> But I certainly don't expect this movie to be wrong and terrible bc the guy they cast isn't like the Conan described in the stories, bc Arnie was not either.
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But that's bc of the director's track record, not bc of the actor's appearance.
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The guy you asked about is a pictish scout working for Thulsa Doom. In Howard's Hyboria, the picts are described as barely having a culture, they are very close to nature and they are pratically beasts in human shape. Very effective warriors, though, so much so, that thousands of years after Conan's time, a much clever pict cheiftain learns of the civilized world through a missionary, and mananges to convicne the whole picts to move doen to th south and conquer the whole of Hyboria and burn down the cities, very much like the mongols did in the middle ages. The pictish invasions brough down the civilization of Conan's era and started another stone age, from which our history emerged.
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Where's the contradiction in favouring Arnold over ther samoan guy as Conan. You cna't argue that Arnold is closer to the Howard's Conan then a samonean. You can't argue that.<br><br>OK, let's say for the sake of argument that the samonean guy did a one hell of a audiction. Let's say he's a talented actor. Let's say he was cast because he mananged to bring to his acting soem of the most important psycholoical characteristic of Howard's Conan, as in, he can do brooding very well,he can look animalish and dangerous while at the same time naturally intelligent. Let's say, fort he sake of argument, the actor can pull that stuff.<br>If so, then they aren't they even bothering to try to make him LOOK LIKE CONAN? No jet black wig or pain his hairblack. no atmept to make him pass for an northern dark celtic european. No atempt to try to ake his skin look like it's burned form the sun, instead of what looks to his his natural samoean darkly skinned hue. He looks samoean through and through. They are not even bothering making him look the character. He just looks like his usual him. that's laziness. Worst, that is a clear indication that the people making this movie just don't give a fuck. It's clear this mvie was pre-produced ina hurr,y is being shot in a hurry, and will be post-prodcuted in a hurrry to be released in a hurry to collect fast bucks. I have seen too many bad cashgrab movies to recognize one a mile away. This one is one such. The writing is in the wall for anyone to see.
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When based on physical appearances, this guy looks more like Conan than Arnie with his blonde hair does? Of course I can! I just did it! Where did Conan ever have blonde hair in Howard's stories?
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You said "They are not even bothering making him look the character. He just looks like his usual him. that's laziness. Worst, that is a clear indication that the people making this movie just don't give a fuck."<p> Yeah, why didn't they give Arnie a black wig? Lazy!!! And yet look at how the movie turned out and at how much you love it. How do you not see the contradiction?
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Asi, you said I can't argue Arnie as Conan is closer in appearance to Howards version than the Mamoan is. This is true, but something I thought you'd been doing. I misunderstood and thought you were saying I can't argue that the Mamoan is closer than Arnie.
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the movie from the books? or is it an original one?
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Sounds like an original story. They might include some elements form some various Howard stories, i bet, for the sake of "injokes". But that for me is not the point. It's not really that important if the mvoei is a direct adaptation of any of Howard's stories, or if it's original. The problem is if they will tell an interesting story, like Milius did with his film. And seriously, i'm doubtful.<br>And let's say they actually have a good script. There's still this little problem that the director hired is a fucking clueless hack who couldn't even make an indian vs vikings movie. They could had a script good enough to win the Nobel Prize of Literature, this clown would fuck it all up anyway.
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THIS IS GONNA SUCK!!! Hopefully not, but so far I'm not impressed by the pics at all. (of course, they're bad pics) have to wait and see. I'm a HUGE conan Fan, and I'll be there Opening Night. (Any news on the Solomon Kane north american release? Direct to DVD? Anything?
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Orcus Remembers that story of the Pict King. Wasn't the missionary killed and put in a place of honor after introducing the king to the civilized world? The irony being that the thing thought he was doing the missionary a favor? Orcus seen to remember that story as part of a 3 volume REH compendium of conan stories
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Indeed.
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I really liked SOLOMON KANE. It's an honest movie, the love was onscreen, and James Purefoy was excelent.
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hope Clash of thrones doesnt suffer same fate
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With only the exception of the jet black hair, which frankly is the least give a shit element. Otherwise the bulk, the tan, and the piercing blue eyes which are more important and are always mentioned glinting in the books. He was actually from a quasi nordic/scottish region but developed his bronze tan frmo wandering the rest of the world and deserts a lot. As for these pics i would actually forgive the guy's brown eyes, but he does not look at all like he's led any tough life. Those fake water muscles, he looks like he stepped out of a boy band, there's no strain on his face. Arnold had a weathered strong face from his tough life beforehand which was just like the character's.
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SGU!!!
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Right on.
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Looks cheap from pictures, may be corrected in post production. What can't be fixed is rotten derivative uninspired script that just namedrops from Howard's stories without thinking. Film will suck. Feel bad for Stephen Lang. 10% chance this film will be good or entertaining at least. But that's ok. Conan survived a bad TV show in the late '90s. Maybe 10 or 15 yrs from now, someone serious with respect for source material will give Conan another try. Conan will survive this nonsense.
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what happened with that mmorpg? last time i checked it was not doing very well.
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http://tinyurl.com/29zdx42 <br> http://tinyurl.com/36roku2
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And that shit was unbelievably bad. A complete mockery. PC sensitive Conan!! Give me a break!
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The covers that depicted Conan in the pulps when Howard was still alive had little to nothing to do with how Howard depicted his characters. It was common practice then. The publications just shoved some picture or drawing that tthey though would attract readerships, and not much t do with the actual content or the descriptions of the characters. That seems to be the case for the first picture you linked above.<br><br>The second looks like a Frank Frazetta picture, which many claim is the closest depcition of Conan that was ever created by an artist to what Howard might had in mind for his character and how he described him.
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First picture could easily be considered to be a younger Conan, regardless of the history of the pic. <br> It goes with Howards descriptions of him as a younger man. <br> The second picture is/should be the quintessential Conan in his prime. <br> Greatly drawn by Frank Frazetta of course, like you said. <br> In my minds eye that is what Conan looks like... and not like Arnold. <br> <br> Now this movie seems to be somewhat of an origins piece, so it would be fair to have the actor playing Conan to have a physique somewhere in between whats shown in those two pictures. <br> And in all honesty, its almost impossible to get a guy that has the muscled physique and the height that some purist want... with the charisma to handle the role of Conan. <br> You dont need a Shakespearean actor of course, but you want a guy who can do more than mumble a few catchphrases... right? <br> <br> And as far as the words used by Robert E Howard to describe Conan... you need to put them in context with the times. <br> Men were scrawny back then. Joe Louis was a giant black man who terrorized the heavyweight division... and he was about 6'1 and 205 lbs. <br> Most of these massive gigantic men were only a couple inches over 6 feet, and between 200 and 225 lbs.<br> In fact, most heavyweight champions were under 6 feet, and i believe the HW division started at 175 lbs at the time. <br> <br> So when Howard describes Conan as being huge, massive, powerful, but also sinewed, lithe, and agile like a panther... he is at most describing the physique of a guy like Dolph Lundgren back in his He-Man/Rocky 4 days. But probably even less bulky. <br> Conan should never be about the bulk, his muscles have a purpose, they are made naturally from exercise, work, and combat. <br> Bodybuilding does not produce that type of body... it produces the Arnold body. <br> And thats not Conan.
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Actually, a shakespearean actor would be nice for Conan. Many think that since Conan i just an action character without being much of an intellectual, that all it takes is a big guy wity muscles and that's it. I disagree. It needs pretty good acting chops to pull Conan. Or at least a big eagerness. Why? Becasue one of the most difficult type of acting is the silent type, where ana ctor cannpt rely on speach but on facial expressions and body posture to convey characterization. It's a hard type of acting. Thus, in fact, to play Conan, it needs acting chops.<b><br>Conan as Howard described is almost an impossible man. He is lithe and agile, yes, but he«'s also huge in physique. He's like a human tiger, massive of size but also very agille and fast. Conan combines two aspects, Conan is the perfect warrior.
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I'd make fun of that typo, but it's too fucking easy.
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No amount of visualization is going to change the fact that the script is utter, absolute garbage. It seems like Conan is set up with a mission to avenge the death of his parents (much like the original Barbarian) but then for NO REASON he completely ignores that until way late in the script. WTF?
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...out there. I won't say, "Don't hold your breath"...but, yeah, it doesn't look good.<P>However, you can spare yourself the likely misery and disappointment of this production by indulging yourself with Season 1 of SPARTACUS: BLOOD AND SAND!!! By Jupiter's cock, that should hold off the Conan-blues!
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I go to the museum every summer when I visit the Poconos. Sad Frazetta is gone - but what a legacy he's left behind. As for the pics above. They suck. Why cant they get it right?????
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... should I set my DVR to SyFy to see this piece of fecal matter? I mean, it can't be as bad as the last Highlander...
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whats was considered as bulky then,today is considered average as muscular mass goes.
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I can't fuck myself, you sick bastard. Also, don't blame me and the cast of Stargate Atlantis because you're an ugly bastard.
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is it just me or is there some sort of evil demon sucking the brains out of every script writer in hollywood, laughing manically as he torments us all?
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They should just give the money to the poor. What a waste of time. Reeks of shitty L.A. "Let's make a movie on the Beach with Erik Estrada!" type thinking.
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What? What kind of nonsense is that? Don't put unto others your own shortcomings, man! Get a grip!
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You know what's the real problem? The real probem is not so much that Holylwood is filled with hacks. No, the real probem is us. Us all. You know why? Because we have been too complacent about shitty movies, you have excused too many shitty movies existing and being sucessful all in that same old excuse of "the fun". And the message that our complacency has given holywood is that god scripts, good directing, and spot on casting no longer matters. Fill the movies with lots of action plotting, lots of repetitive dialogue, lots of CGI nonsense, uninspired directing that uses a lot of camera movements, fast editing and shampoo commercial cinematography, and the crowds will eat it all up as if it's waffles. In the end, we are to blame because we have consumed this crap. And Hollywood will repeat a sucessful formula because it's the tested and proved money making one. The only way crap gets made with less quantity would be for us to stop watching this shit, either in the theaters or in homevideo, rental or purchse the DVDs/blu-rays. Until then, this shit will keep on getting made. The hacks are to blame, and so are we.
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I really want to see what the russians can pull off with 10 million dollars. So that i can contrast with the 100 millions that this new "From the director of Pathfinder" Conan movie looks like. Seems that will be the only fun i'll get from that. Schaudenfreude if nothing else.
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Conan In Name Only? Or is it too soon?
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then we can call him CINO
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May 12, 2010, 2:12 a.m. CST
Asimov, you are correct, you are indeed the problem.
by dailysportspages
The problem is that you expect too much. <br> You expect reality from a medium that is not real, and the reality you expect is from a story that by your own admittance is the zenith of fantasy. <br> By your definition what you want is what is un-get-able. <br><br> You want a giant man, with heavy and strongly muscled physique. <br> And you want him to also be perfectly believable as someone agile enough to be Tarzan like.<br> AND you want them to cast a talented Shakespearian actor to play the role... and he should of course also be of the right racial make up and facially look the part.<br> <br> Asimov... Conan is not real.<br> I hate to break it to you man. <br> He does not exist in this realm in which we live in.<br> No amount of wishing for the "perfect" warrior/actor will ever make him be.<br> Instead you make do with what you can, you pick a reality that you think you can measure up against... and you try to hit that target. <br> <br> As far as the rest of your post... i find it increasingly funny and ironic how much we criticize "us" for all the cliched, stale, formulaic stuff we readily consume from the hollywood studio machine.<br> Yet at the very same time cling to our love of countless movies that are made up of exactly the same type of cliched, stale, formulaic stuff we now profess to dislike so much. <br> Look at how much we orgasm over stuff like Machete, Rambo, Rocky Balboa, Expendables, etc... movies that very simply apply an old stale, cliched formula to franchises/actors/directors we have nostalgia over.<br> We cant get enough of these movies... we want more.<br> <br> Is this new Conan movie going to be the best Conan movie that could possibly be made? <br> Probably not. The script is suspect and so are the people behind it.<br> But the fact that they went a little outside box with casting gives me a little bit of hope.<br> I mean if they would have picked a huge roided up bodybuilder like Arnold and just tried to copy the previous movies... that would be totally cliched, stale and formulaic, right?<br> But maybe then a bunch of you guys would love it.
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I just gave up on being overly negative. Resistance is futile. What's gonna happen if I boycott the next Roland Emerich film? Oh noes, thats $9 shed from the millions in profits. Plus, some of these mindless action movies are actually pretty good imo. Like Transformers, it was bad ass. I don't mind corny comedy bits, personally I often am entertained by them. So sue me. Transformers was a quality production for the most part. What disturbs me are all these half-assed shit-fests like the Nightmare reboot and look at this fuckin Conan shit, holy hell what's their excuse? How fucking hard is it to come up with a cool Conan story/script? Is Hollywood pinching pennies and hiring cheap ass hack script writers, because they know they can get away with it? Is that what happened here? Time will tell but I can just guess that the story in this is fucking god aweful because it's the status quo. A fucking retarded chimpanzee could write a better script than the new Nightmare flick. Its poor writing. And it's epidemic. There's no fucking excuse, and I refuse to take the blame for it.
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Here's the storyline... "The tale of Conan the Cimmerian and his adventures across the continent of Hyboria on a quest to avenge the murder of his father and the slaughter of his village." *shrug* Sounds nearly like remake? Rose McGowan is in this? UGHHHHHH. Yeah Arnold was 6'2" 250 (260 when not training)... but he was all muscle... 57" chest... 22" arms. Momoa is tall.. yes... but doesn't have the muscle mass of Arnold. Momoa also looks odd... the large forehead, etc. I would have taken Manu Bennett over Momoa in a heart beat. Personally, I would have searched for a no-name overseas. <br> http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1730973696/nm0071847 <br> <br> I'm expecting two ferrets to pop out of his kilt in this shot... <br> <br> http://www.latinoreview.com/images/stories/conan-02-momoa.jpg <br> <br>
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well said
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but if it has a 100 million budget is there going to be some crazy shit going on during his journey? maybe it can be halfway decent but this whole production so far looks extremely weak.
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a quest to avenge his parents and his village.And only in the half part of the movie,he wanted to avenge his dead girlfriend.so its not exactly following the main story of the original film.
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Wolfhound SUCKED ROYAL DICK! I couldn't even finish it! :(
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There is no such thing as expecting too much. That's the same to say "don't expect good rom anything". Welll, you know what, i demand good. I pay to watch the movies, and i pay with money that cames from my work. I work for a living. therefor,e you bet i expect to be compensated for the money i pay. and in the case of a movie, i expect a good movie. that's the least i should expect from a movie. Expecting too much? there is no such thing as "expecting too much". That's reasonable costumer demand. It works for all products, movies included.<br><br>As for your notion that it's impossible for an actor to fill the shoes of a Conan as described by Howard, allow me to differ. Arnold was a pretty close match wehn he made Milius movie. And there's even better match. Did you know that Ray Stevenson is even bigger then Arnold ever was? She's taller, he's at least as well buld musculary, and he's a very good actor with extensive shakesperean theater acting. You think he's the only one like that? There's more like that. In USA, in UK, in Germany, in France, in Australia, in Italy, in Russia, etc, etc, etc. For this movie, they got lazy ass with the casting. No, it's not impossible to find an actro to fill Conan's shoes. It happened once, it can happen anytime, as long the filmmakers give a fuck.
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Actually, he was in aquest to avenge his parents. Remember his reaction to the witch shew she mentions snakes, that he was in a path to crush the sankes in the world? And that scene cames right after he kills th wolves, right after he finds the atlantean king's sword, right after he was set free. While in Millius conan all his actions are notdirectly to do with his revenge, revenge is always on his mind and is his most driving force in his life.<br><br>Man, i love Milius' CONAN THE BARBARIAN. A far more nuanced and smart movie then many give it credit, even among those who claim to love it.
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The dubbing was that bad? I intend to watch it in the original russian language version. Believe it or not, it makes one hell of a difference.
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If everybody wouldn't spend their 9 bucks on an emmerich movie, his 120 million dollars movies would fail miserably at the box office. Don't forget, a wall is made of many tiny bricks. Stop being fatalistic, do your part and be proud you did it in conscience.
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My disparage was about BAD MOVIES. Looks likw you ar making one basic mistake, that of mistaking tropes for cliches. You can make a whole great movie using familiar tropes. The difference is the dedication, talent and honesty a filmmaker can give to the presentation of those same tropes. Cliches are the result of untaletned filmamkerrs who can't pull that off, you are dramatically weak and lack imagination. Again, i use the online Vern critic example of the players of blues. they may be playing the same old music again, but a good musuician will be able to put his own style and interpretation to it that will make it sound fresh and new. Same thing with movies.<br><br>The use and reuse of familiar tropes is not the problem. The problem is bad filmmakers using them unimaginatively to make bad movies. A problem that gets exarcebated if those bad movies get very comemrcially sucessful due to the self-indulgency and lazy arsery of audience menbers who are too lazy and numbed to give a fuck and award bad filmmaking all for the sake of some stupid lazy definition of "fun". Bad filmmakers are to blame, and so are we if we help perpectute this shit. I don't isempt myself from this responsability, because myself i have seen too many bad movies, movies i suspected they were bad and went to see them anyway, and helped the problem. But at least i have a desire to learn from those mistakes, and to not accept fools gladly.
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Oh yeah, the trailer! Man, i can't wait for the trailer! Chances are, it will either make me laugh or cry... possibly both! CINO in the making.
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You wont stop watching bad movies. <br> If you like movies, you will watch your share of shitty ones... thats just the way it works. <br> When i watch a shitty movie i dont consider it a wasted couple of hours of my life. <br> There is no use in consuming entertainment, and then bitching about the entertainment you consumed. <br> If its bad, dont watch it... if you are watching and you realize its too shitty for your sensibilities... stop watching. <br> Its not a difficult concept. <br><br> I dont want to belabor the point any further, but you end up shooting yourself in the foot with every post. <br> Ray Stevenson, really? <br> I like Titus Pullo as much as the next guy, and Ray IS a big dude and as good an actor as you are going to get to play an action type of role... but he has as much flab on his body as i do. <br> You may be thinking of what he looked like during the filming of Rome. He was already putting on pounds back then, and his age was starting to show. <br> Now the poor bloke is sagging pretty bad, have you seen those jowls? <br> <br> He's a big guy yes, but he isnt a guy who you are going to be impressed with shirtless. In fact, i dont remember seeing him bare his chest much. <br> I doubt he has much physical development in that dept. <br> Ray Stevenson as Conan is an epic fail.
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Seems your definition of "not accepting fools gladly" isn't the same as i understand it. I was under the impression that it meant "watching crap and accepting it as if it's good". Yes, we all watch bad movies occasionally, but does that means i'm forced to like them just because i watched them? Nonsense. That's what it means "not accepting fools gladly".
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:) <br> I have enjoyed our little back and forth.
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