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The new Inception trailer is here to make your mind melt!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. When I saw Iron Man 2 last night I only got trailers for the new Shrek and Abrams' Super 8 (apparently I'm only allowed "S" trailers), but I know a whole lot of you got to see this new Inception trailer. I had to wait, but now I can watch it over and over and over and over and over and over again.
The trailer has made the rounds, but let's embed Film School Rejects... why? Because it's the first place I went and I'm lazy.
Ah, how refreshing that feels. Giant budget dream imagery from one of our most interesting working filmmakers. No racist robots (I think), no dumbed down action scenes (I hope)... I'm so ready for this movie. Any time now...
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I thought it looked decent.
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congrats
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I'll put you in my will.
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it was awesome. hahahaha
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Holy shit.
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Ah dammit anyway!!
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May 07, 2010 8:30:30 PM CDT
YESS!!!!!! THEY JUST GREENLIT A SEQUEL TO KISS KISS BANG BANG!!!
by gruemanlives
....in my dreams.
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This is amazing.
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INCEPTION!!!!! some fresh shit after too many sequels
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That reference went over my head.
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aw yeah.
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Smart sci-fi, what a novel concept...to bad 'Avatar' didn't go in this direction.
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I think they should have included his movie Memento in the credits since this has more in common with that movie than Dark Knight, at least in strangeness factor. But you know, whatever. I do think it's good that you can see so much in the trailers and read the plot and it still seems a mystery what this will actually be.
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Pulled up a cast listing on IMDB. Dang, that's a heckofa cast. Really looking forward to this. I'm glad the studio saw fit to give Nolan megabucks after delivering with Batman.
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...and now I don't want to know anything more about this movie. I've seen enough to know that I will enjoy it. The less I know from this point on will enhance that experience.
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It will not make the money the studio thinks it will.
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you fucker
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amos and andybots aka mudflaps and skids from Transformers 2.
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Geez, this looks great.
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That is one hip fucking cast. (Yes, Shutter Island has made Leo watchable again). And Ellen Page is the new Jessica Harper!
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will watch anything with him in it, its about time he got some big budget films.
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but this is gonna end with a "Rotten" rating in RT. Something in my mind tells me this is gonna be perceived as spectacular but mostly fireworks and predictable ("Shutter Island" was, by the way, despite being a great movie). Hope I'm wrong.
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But I'm not getting my hopes up. Being a Chris Nolan fanboy is passe. Memento was his masterpiece and it's been all downhill from there. He has yet to make anything approaching a bad film, though.
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Yet Nolan and his film will get ignored by the idiots of the Academy yet again. Someday someone from the Academy will actually watch a Nolan film and say "Dang, dat dare guy be good." Can't wait for this film. Jesus, impatient after Iron Man disappointment.
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so psyched for this. Nolan is too damn talented.
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I can't wait for this. this is what happens when an amazing director makes a movie that makes a bazillion dollars...he gets to do whatever he wants! when was the last time that happened? (don't even mention Titanic...)
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with photos and sample of soundtrack
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what worries me is DiCaprio.He is a good actor but that baby face of his can never convince him as a badass.
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from Paprica,Dreamscape and Dark City. hmmmm
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wehn I saw the Teaser.
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"Our dreams feel real while we're in them. It's only when we wake up.... Strange.." I couldn't make it out.
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the movie looks to be a bit of a bore though. cold, dry, and British.
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go and watch it.
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when you, like everyone else, have no smegging idea what it's supposed to be about?
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albeit this summer's lineup is pretty weak with big tentpoles, I'm looking forward to this the most (AND it's original!)
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I hope it lives up to what I have seen so far .. I want this now ...
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Looks fucking great! The score was really fucking awesome too.
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It's a sci-fi movie based on a common idea. Dreams are something all of us have almost every night, and they're one of the most interesting aspect of the human condition: the subconscious mind. It has some of the same story elements as the films you named, ominus, and you can add Brainstorm to that list as well. To use today's special effects to portray dreams and have it made by a very proven filmmaker is mind-blowing.
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that is all
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FUCKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. THAT SHIT GAVE ME GOOSEBUMPS
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was the only thing that made Nine worth watching.
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and it's going to end with the revelation that there was a big moment when the bad guy or good guy thought everything was real and then it turned out to be a dream instead but he revealed or did something that "ruins" the real world for him, so he ends up going back and living in the dream. Or he traps the bad guy in a dream the bad guy thinks is real. Yawwwwwn.
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that movie scared the shit out of me when i was a kid.
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there will be the big moment when the crook thinks he is winning and then he will see Leonardo snap shut the magic briefcase and go "NOOOOOOOOO!" and try to go after him and Leo will pull a JUMPER and disappear and then the bad guy will go "NOOOOOO!" and become a brain dead vegetable homeless man in the park or something like the end of SHUTTER ISLAND. Oops!
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May 07, 2010 9:47:29 PM CDT
I think I just shot about four loads in my pants over that.
by stuntcock mike
Oh yeah, shit 'em too.
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I haven't seen Shutter Island Yet. And fuck the hell off, a Mega Tentpole Movie that is hard Sci-fi And not a sequel or based on a book and you are hating, seriously i thought we were all geeks here, but i guess you would prefer to go see MIB III 3D and get raped in the ass by Will Smith
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this is my most anticipated movie of this year. the music in the trailer was awesome.
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You guys who yell "Rip-off" are idiots!
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...curious.
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Who fucking cares? Brilliance.
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I agree with what you are saying, lets just see MIB III 3D, or that remake of Spiderman, or 'Hey when is that Jetsons movie coming out?'. If you want to play it safe then wait for Transformers 3. Oh and there is nothing wrong with brand loyalty and looking forward to a Nolan flick. Good characters, good story...that's all I ask.
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how cool would it be?
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Am I the only one who is not all that jazzed about this summer? Toy Story is likely pretty good, but none of the other big movies looks all that great.
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Yeah, in here people bitch about everything, if we see a remake, or a sequel, we ask for original movies, and when we see original movies we bitch about how it resembles to X movie. If a movie is good, is good, be a sequel, a remake, or something new like this, but is extra special to see something original in this big a scale...
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Good singing voice, too. Just worked with Franz Ferdinand recently. She can belt it. And it's quality stuff, not that "actress/actor" musical quality. Look for "eyes of mars" on google to give it a shot. It's pretty good.
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I now know what "Inception" actually means in the context of the film. Pretty badass idea. Definitely one that Nolan will go nuts with.
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http://tinyurl.com/32l7ph5
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lifted from any Hans Zimmer/Remote Control film. Ugh.
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May 07, 2010 10:14:07 PM CDT
"HI, I'M CHRIS NOLAN....PREPARE FOR THE BRAIN FUCKING!!!"
by tehcreepythinman
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http://bit.ly/b7l1Elunless ofc he is a midget in the film.
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yeah, it's better to have original stuff than transformers 3 but the thing is I think that this movie is probably going to be just as typical as transformers 3 just in a different way. these kinds of movies, the mindfuck movies, are all the same. whether it's old stuff like matrix or thirteenth floor or stuff or new stuff like inception, it's always this whole thing of like don't trust what you think you know or see. then there is the shot where something big looks small or small looks big or something and then there's the shot of the hero in a desert scene with stuff poking out of the sand like a freightliner. ive ben here before and i didn't like it last time when it was eternal sunshine or brazil or any of that kind of mindfuck movie. i like to know what im pretending is happening is actually happening to the people who are pretending its actually happening to them.
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He says: "Our dreams feel real while we're in them. It's only when we wake up that we notice anything was strange."
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can you solve the Riddler's riddles?
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May 07, 2010 10:30:42 PM CDT
CONCEPTION - YOUR PUSSY IS THE SCENE OF THE CRIME.....
by tehcreepythinman
Starring Ron Jeremy and Bristol Palin, cuming this fall.
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Stoked to see this. Tron Legacy and Inception are the only films I give a shit about seeing @ this point other than the Hughes Bros' Akira.
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"Our dreams feel real while we're in them. It's only when we wake up that we realize something was actually strange."
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I am finally interested.
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And also The Cell. Not that I'm crying rip off or slamming Inception. I think it looks great and is my most anticipated movie of the summer, easily. I love smart sci-fi and hope this rocks.
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I can see it now. THE CSI-S ARE BETWEEN HER THIGHS!
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I'm sure the Matrix crowd will love it.
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Including Dark City and Minority Report. Also, Paprika, Matrix...
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in case TRON LEGACY actually hits this year
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But that will make me watch it like the prestige
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you can't call a movie a rip off until you've seen it. I trust nolan enough to come up with a good idea without mix mashing a few other movies plots together.
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This trailer sold me on it. Its nice to see an original story and not some stupid remake or sequel... Hope the movie is as good as the trailer... and this coming from someone who isn't a fan of DiCaprio.
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You can call any movie a ripoff these days. What's wrong with revisiting familiar concepts and doing a better job at executing them? The answer is Nothaaang! This movie looks sick!
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How can anyone not like him? Look at the films he's been in; it's really astounding.
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I don't seek out movies he's in -- I don't avoid movies he's in. I think he's interchangeable with a dozen different stars, none of whom are bad, but none who feel necessary or particularly interesting either. Just another actor. He's never had a role I can't imagine someone else in.
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Funny, Leo was in my favorite movie of the year so far, Shutter Island, and I have a strong feeling this film may top that. Fucking amazing people that guy surrounds himself with. Smart man, that DiCaprio. And he can act his ass off too, which helps.
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I love Nolan's movies, too, but damn...some of you guys are so rabid in your Nolan love I'm just waiting for the Shepard Fairey poster of Nolan with "FILM" on the bottom. It's a little scary. I was blown away by Memento way back when, thinking, damn- I wish this guy would do a comic book movie. Maybe he will someday.
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...and Iron Man 2. Man, when I think Summer Movie season 2010, the term 'slim pickins' comes to mind.
I mean, there's almost literally nothing else. A-Team looks like a movie that belongs in the September-awful-movie dumping ground, Shrek 3D, and, and, and...oh, and the umpteenth re-telling of Robin Hood, again, but all grimy-like. I'm already falling aslee.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzz. -
This trailer holds more mystery and intrigue than half the shit out in multiplexes at the moment. A film that actually treats audiences like they have a brain? Count me in. I'll be there on opening day.
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Real geeking-out anticipation. Haven't had this feeling about a movie since right before Fellowship of the Ring. Funny thing, my Moms (who is nearing 60 but knows I dig the movies - something we can still talk to each other about) caught a commercial for this during something she watches (probably American Idol) and asked me what it was about during a phone call. It just looks different and exciting. Cool beans.
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"...You die in real life" bullshit. I've died several times in my dreams. Still doesn't get me out of going to work the next morning.
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"...Including Dark City and Minority Report. Also, Paprika, Matrix..."
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...I already know there's a twist ending and I know what it is. Praying I'm wrong.
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Seriously, why are people getting excited over the music in this trailer? It's not like we haven't heard that same rythm in countless other films (TDK, Transformers, Pirates of the Caribbean).
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NOTHING ELSE MATTERS!!! Well... maybe Tron Legacy...
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multiple times. This film will be fucking orgasmic. Mark my words. Unlike that sad disappointment Iron Man 2, Inception will fuck your cum out of your eyesockets.
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The body cannot live without the mind
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your mind makes it real!
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Matrix, Total Recall, Minority Report, Lost, Shutter Island, etc.
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For the longest time I hated him. Pretty much after Titanic and he became the lame dream boy for tween girls because he was safe and good looking and had the illusion of being dangerous but really deep down he was sensitive and sweet and just wanted love... Absolutely hated him, avoided everything he was in.
But the Departed changed my mind. I realized I was being way too hard on him just because of that one movie.
Ironically they I felt the same way about Kate Winslett after Titanic, but I started to like her after I saw her in Extras. Brilliant.
Oh, and I can't wait for this freakin' movie. July is too far away. After Memento, The Prestige, and the Dark Knight, Nolan is going to have to really screw up for me to not give him a chance. And the first trailer was stunning when I saw it in theaters. This one ten times better. Can't wait to see where it goes. -
Hope this is a return to the streamlined brilliance of Memento and The Prestige rather than the bloat of The Dark Knight.
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Looks great, like a big budget Phillip K Dick story, yea it's probably a concept that's been explored before but rarely have the visuals looked as stunning.
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Smart, epic, action-packed, trippy, I'm there!
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a pile of tofu. Don't write about things you don't know.
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Bring it on!
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This look pretty amazing!
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no point in watching this in crappy format...
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I love movies that can create wild architecture like that! Also looks like the story has got some smarts to it; and I'm becoming more and more impressed by deCaprio, he never struck me as mush of an actor when he was younger but his more recent body or work has been great. Shows what doing a few movies with Scorsese can do for you...
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I meant 'much' not 'mush'... although saying that 'mush of an actor' isn't a bad line...
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his face soooo strange.
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Yadda yadda. NOTHING is 100% original anymore, the best film makers takes familiar themes and put their own interesting spin on it. So people like Ominus should put away the crack flakes. Ominus in particular has done nothing but attack Nolan in every TB he can, bitching about TDK, bitching about Nolan and Inception, and he tries to cover his trolling by adding "I trust Nolan BUT..." Ominus your logic is as fucked as the Greek econmomy (see what I did there?).
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yeah think about it.
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May 08, 2010 4:24:59 AM CDT
WILL IT BEAT "DATE NIGHT" AS 2010'S BEST MOVIE?
by richard_gere_raped_my_gerbil
Steve Carell is waiting anxiously to find out!
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i.e. if you die in the Matrix, you're dead in real life as well. What I do think it'll be is... if something either goes wrong while you've invaded someone else's subconscious (as in, die), you risk being turned into a human vegetable and going comatose for the rest of your life. That would be a much better take on it than "OH NOES! I DIED!"
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In dreams everything can be new. A purposely elusive tale gets me going lyrically :). I get umbral's point. Yet like Kubrick said, everything has been done before. It is up to the maker to add to it. If anything this thing feels like an anime.Paprika and Perfect Blue.
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May 08, 2010 5:20:25 AM CDT
This is the sonly summer movie i'm looking forward to
by kwisatzhaderach
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but i do not understand why everything one is so gaga over this average trailer?
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I get what ur sayin but the reasons are:
1) It does look cool
2) Its a Nolan project which gives us hope
3) Caprio and Michale Caine - cool to see
4) BASICALLY COMPARED TO THE SHIT WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR THIS YEAR AND WHICH THEY ARE GONA THROW AT US SOON THIS COULD BE A RARE GEM. COULD being the optimum word here... -
What a ridiculously stupid concept! Were they high on lighter fluid when they pitched this idea?
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Not sure if this will be any good, but the music they used for it is awesome.
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The best parts, folding city/gravity defying fights, were from the first trailer. Most of the scenes were realistic even though the strength of the concept is the prospect of surrealism/fantasy. Yeah, this dropped down a few notches on my anticipation meter. Needs more mind-bending fantasy.
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it doesn't look that great. Nolan steps up to the plate, he swings and misses? Naw, it can't be! I bet it's a good movie.
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can give you so much, yet still keep you in the dark. Very well put together. I was excited when I saw the teaser, and now I'm rabid for this film.
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For some time now, DiCaprio has quietly put away the pretty boy with which his early career was associated. I'm glad he's teamed with Nolan for this and this trailer looked mond blowing. I'm looking forward to Inception.
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..dialog seemed a little goofy to me ("One last job!") Still, Nolan is the man so I have high hopes.
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I got that feeling too from the trailer - the line 'Our dreams feel real while we're in them' from DiCaprio brought to mind Sixth Sense's 'Dead people don't know they're dead'... I hope that's not the case, as it would be surprising to have such a big twist telegraphed in a trailer... or maybe I'm just reading too much into it!
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dreams and reality somewhere in the movie. Make no mistake about it. Nolan likes to mindfuck people.
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And I totally dig the awesomeness of the trailer soundtrack.
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I liked the snipers in the snow moment... been a long time since we've seen that on film. Brings to mind CALL OF DUTY too...
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May 08, 2010 8:13:27 AM CDT
I await the inevitable comparison to a classic Disney film
by aceattorney
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they are cutting it kinda close, the movie comes out in a few month...they really think they have us though
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Your genius just keeps raising the bar.
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Sure we dont know exactly who he's after or what the secrets they might have but the basic outline is in the trailer. They either A: wait for someone to sleep, or B: they put them to sleep. Then Leo's character is hooked up to them and he enters that persons dreams and the dreams- which he says people dont refuse as reality. These dreams are shaped to foece that person to give away the secret his team is after. Hence the name inception. Like interception.
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May 08, 2010 8:37:32 AM CDT
I'm pretty sure some of us are thinking that leos character will
by thejudger
and the surprise ending may reveal that he the one they are intercepting and he's the one whos asleep. 99.9 % sure there will be a twist/shock ending.
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May 08, 2010 8:43:05 AM CDT
"Dick riding for tomorrow, dick riding for today, dick riding...
by harryizafaggot
for the straight, dick riding for the gay! Dick riding for America, dick riding for Iraq, it's okay to ride that dick, as long as it's Baracks!" HOW COME THERE ISN'T A FUCKING TALKBACK FOR THE NEW SEASON OF THE BOONDOCKS!!!!! Harry was dick riding Barack hard!!!!!
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...hardly ever come out good. It looks decent from the trailer, but certainly not "amazing". The reaction here is no surprise though considering 95% of the talkbackers jerk off to C. Nolan every night. The double-standard in this place is out of control.
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May 08, 2010 8:45:13 AM CDT
rips off dark city/the matrix/videodrome/dreamscape/coma/vanilli
by thejudger
dream a little dream/ walking life. The list goes on and on. So many films could be called the inspirational catalyst for this one.
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This is how you do it!!! Can't hardly wait! Bring it on! IN NOLAN I TRUST!
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Perfect casting for a dream girl.
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May 08, 2010 8:50:21 AM CDT
Damnit i ment to say leo's chartacter will be double crossed
by thejudger
We saw him fighting JGL in the hall way in the first trailer. So yeah he might be double crossed or an agent on them team like JGL might be a bad guy, and I wouldnbt be shocked if the ending or near ending shock was that leo was the one who was dreaming, and he was the one they were trying to steal idea/secrets from.
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May 08, 2010 8:56:29 AM CDT
Just saw Eyes of Mars sang by Marion Cotillard with Franz Ferdin
by asimovlives
Damn, she really can sing! She could had been as easily a singer. She's really good. And she's smart and had good taste, she collaborated with Fanz Ferdinand. Gorgeaus and multi-talented. Is there no end to this girl's qualities? She's awesome! Dream girl indeed.
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I'm pretty impressed
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yes it will
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May 08, 2010 9:02:17 AM CDT
My most-anticipated movie of the summer.
by half-baked-goggle-box-do-gooder
Hands Down. Nolan rules. Put him together with Robert Downey Jr, and you'll really have something on your hands...
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is the king of movie scores. Could listen to his work all day...btw, trailer giving away Juno's eventual death is a bit shit.
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Marion Cotillard sings in NINE too. Not that i'm recommending anyone see that movie (it's shit).
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Marion Coutilard and Scarlett Jonahsson doesn't impressed you with their beauty? You got to be kidding!!
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May 08, 2010 9:36:41 AM CDT
Didn't melt my mind but it certainly looks pretty cool.
by mr. nice gaius
Nolan is an intelligent director and he's assembled one hell of a cast here. I just hope the story holds up to the potential that's on display here.* Yes, there are bits of DREAMSCAPE, THE MATRIX, and even DICTIONARY OF THE KHAZARS on display here. *
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...at the very end. If you haven't seen BRONSON, do yourself a favor and check out that guy's performance. Incredible.
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oh shut the fuck up troll and go play with your dolls.
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.. I'm sure this will be pretty good but one question keeps popping why not waterboard the guy to get info? Seems like a roundabout way to get intel.
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he will be double crossed.the official synopsis of the movie,which was released a few days ago confirms that.
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Asi, it was Scarlett in THE PRESTIGE?? Damn, she didn't make much of an impression on me in that one... but yes, I do find her hot (Cotillard, not so much).
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SUPPORT FILMS THAT AT LEAST HAVE A LITTLE CREATIVE SPARK, NOT TRASH.
WHAT KIND OF PERSON WOULD CHAMPION
THE HUMAN CENTIPEDE? REALLY?
IT MAKES PORNO/SNUFF SEEM ALMOST NOBLE.
P.S. WHEN I TAKE A DUMP I DON'T TURN AROUND AND LOOK AT IT.
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I got chills watching that. Very powerful.
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The man is decent enough, but I wonder why the fanboys sing him such praise. I don't see all this greatness. Inception looks interesting but I'm not going as far as too many here saying it's going to be awesome or Nolan's Matrix. Please.
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goddamnit
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...'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' fetish there in that trailer. That can only be a good thing. Maybe the Broccoli's should let him remake it with Daneil Craig.
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Chances are high that the movie itself will deliver. Track records aside, Nolan's very sophisticated AND talented AND knows how to keep people interested (for the most part), and that's a lethal combo.
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May 08, 2010 11:05:03 AM CDT
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by richard_gere_raped_my_gerbil
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sorry about your luck
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Woot woot.
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I personally have been a fan since he was on fucking Growing Pains. Then when he did Gilbert Grape I knew he was the bomb. I wanted to hate him in 1997 when every chick wanted to fuck him, but I got some ass more than once by taking girls to see Titanic, so it's win-win imho. Then The Beach and Catch Me if you Can made me a real fan. The guy's cool, it's not his fault he's having just about the most fortunate life experience of any human being ever. More power to him.
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this smells of diapointment on a matrix scale.....
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Nolan for me is the Director of the last decade, with so many hitsLooks fucking awesome Awesome cast as well, can't help but hope some of the non Batman actors will be up for roles in the next Batman, i.e. Marion Cotilard (Talia) and Tom Hardy
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Hoping for a different take on the Riddler, and seeing Leo and thinking about his Shutter Island role. I want the Riddler to have no onscreen presence and to be the split/alt personality of a cop/private eye who is investigating Batman. This cop/PI has no idea about his alt personality. But seems to have been driven by his desire to solve crime, acting as a comparrison to Bruce's known alt personality and detective skills. Tieing in with Batman being hunted and the PI ending up also hunting the Riddler.The PI being hired by the new crime Boss (The Penguin), played by Tom Hardy
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Why? How so? What? What the- What are you talking about man!
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I have seen many a great looking trailers only to be sorely let down by the movie. That is all......
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You don't think Marion Cotillard is hot? That's... strange!
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but now it looks even cooler
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That'd work. I'd like to see a real Batman detective movie... like Seven meets Batman.
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Joseph Gordin-Levitt's indie movie run of the last 5 years has been f'n exceptional. Leonardo DiCaprio has been awesome in everything since the Blood Diamond/The Departed. Yes, I was even impressed with him in Revolutionary Road.
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For your sake, i hope you are not one of those who sings the praises and kisses the asses of Michael Bay and JJ Abrams. And you couldn't be more wrong about Nolan. The guy is a more then just "a bit talented". He's way way more. Shouldn't even need to tell you that.
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Yes, indeed. But last time a Nolan mlvie had a great traielr it was THE DARK KNIGTH, and that turned out OK. I don't dread good trailers from good directors. From movies made by directors like Abramanito, another matter.
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May 08, 2010 12:28:34 PM CDT
Had Leonard DiCaprio the actint talents of a Paul Walker...
by asimovlives
... i would find the hatred against him justified. But the truth of thematter is, like it or not, DiCaprio is a talented actor. And unlike others like Tom Cruise, he's not exclusively after the more pop bulshit movies. In fact, he has a career made more made of indie movies then popular blockbuster material. You can tell by his career that he's after more then just getting rich fast from populist tripe (à lá Tom Cruise). DiCaprio strikes me as this type of actors who want to be proud of his career in their old age.Yeah, the guy won the genetic lotary and was blessed with killer looks the type thatmake women faint in his presence. And he seems to be resistent to aging. And it's too bad that you once caught your girlfriend marturbating in the shower or on her sleep moaning DeCaprio's name during the whole Titanic madness. That was 13 years ago, get over it. The guy is a very good actor, deal with it.
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I'm sorry, but film scores make up my primary listening experience. I think I know where something is from when I hear it, and the music in this trailer could be ripped straight from any Zimmer-esque, tough, masculine score with those stupid staccato minor-thirds. They're everywhere in scores these days. Awful. TDK was practically 4/4 all throughout. Where's the complexity and creativity?
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The "kid" is 28 years old. He might even be older then you are.
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Leo's character is required to steal ideas but for his last job he is asked to PLANT an idea into someone's mind - known as inception - which is considered impossible. Of course there will be a twist(s), but it won't be the whole thing is something Leo has dreamed up - that's far too obvious now, although it would have worked like a dream (pun intended) twenty or thirty years ago. And Ominus you have been fucking trolling, don't try to deny it. I expect to see you nitpicking this film as more details arise. I don't know what you have against Nolan's work but no one likes or tolerates such an ugly troll. Go stick your head up JJ abrams hairy ass and give him a prostrate massage with your tongue.
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I also liked the tone of the soundtrack.
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The music is perfect for this trailer. But I highly doubt it's from the movie. It's most likely from a trailer music company, the music in the first two trailers was. Where's the QuickTime version!?
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Totally badass. The Nolan bros are so talented. This will be the best movie in a long time. Love the dream sequences. Inception in IMAX is going to melt my brain. FUCK I CAN"T WAIT!!!!!
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cool shit
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Does anyone hear even like music that's not all-out badass, masculine stuff with power chords? I'm not trying to be judgemental; it's a serious question. Seems like all anyone likes is Zimmer these days. His last great score was POTC3 because it was actually melodic and featured interesting instrumentation and lots of themes, not this electric guitar/synthesized crap.
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But i liked it even better in the more sparse version found in the first teaser. I love the sound of those tibetan horns, great choice to create creepy music. Totaly fitting for a mindfuck movie.
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My mind melted and it opened a pocket of cerebral gas and my brain farted. It farted a long, loud brain-fart.
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Rather that then that skunk no talent Megan Fox, that's for sure.
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fucking with our heads, confusing us by what is real and was is dream. Who is on who's side. Who is cheating who. Setting up twists that makes The Sixth Sense seem like My Greek Wedding.....Only to find out in the end it's a spoiled pimple faced kid playing a new mind controlled video game. Fuck, I forgot to say ***SPOILER***
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Ticket sold.
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the movie show on the Reelz Channel, you know the one with Stephanie Simmons, you know, the hot chick with the fantastic rack. They said on there that early word is that Inception in phenomenal. A cross between The Godfather and The Matrix. They said it not me.
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But has Nolan had a flop yet ? He's due one and i have a feeling this might it. Fan boys will love it of course buteveryone else will probably be left scratching their heads. So Nolan's Blade Runner maybe ?
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Looks like Hollywood has found a new writer to ripoff -- Alfred Bester, The Demolished Man to be exact. Look, I'm not a Nolan hater, but as other posters have noted this movie seems "derived" from a number of sources. Which is okay -- if one must steal, steal from the best. In truth, I hope this works. I even hope that at some point Hollywood will actually attempt Bester's masterworks in their entirety, instead of bits and pieces of them.
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is a bunch of momentary retard fucks, that just don't get it. That can't be away from tweeting, chatting, texting and other distracting mushy brain stupid shit. Watch, the only people that'll have negative comments about Inception are stupid, simple minded fuckers. They'll lash out because they'll realize that the movie is telling them just dumb they really are.
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...But i think jgl is gonna be a bitch or get bitched in this... hope im wrong and hope he kills leo in this...
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That's all there is to be said.
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You know this to be true. Let us enjoy this, Nolan's 'on fire' period. All great directors have that period, this is his.
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If I'd see only one big budget movie this year, this would be it.
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cause he should change his name to NolansFluffer!!bob on that knob and slurp on that Nolan cock!!
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considering the trailer looks like every other predictable mind warp movie.
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tards to bitch about how Nolan can't direct action again. you just know he's going to screw it up when they fight in the dreams.right geekers!!fucks!!
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May 08, 2010 2:47:06 PM CDT
In Fringe's alternate universe, there's an AsimovLives...
by richard_gere_raped_my_gerbil
..who goes onto AICN talkbacks to write "IN JJ WE TRUST!" whilst calling Christopher Nolan "Pissmeoff Nolan".AICN there is probably run by a slim Harry Knowles and his gay Chinese lover.
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May 08, 2010 2:52:34 PM CDT
Did AsimovLives just say that Leo doesn't go after Pop movies?
by harryizafaggot
Guess he's never heard of TITANIC or ROMEO & JULIET. To the average MAN, Leo didn't become a tolerable actor until THE DEPARTED. AsimovLives is a complete fucking retard and should be treated as such. One more comment like that Asimo and I'm taking you off of life support...faggot.
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to star in Titanic over Boogie Nights. Thank God for that, Boogie is one my fav movies. I think Asimo was one of those girlfriends "masturbating in the shower or moaning" Leo's name.
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When you will ever get tired of playing the retard?
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Sue me if i uphold truly talented filmmakers over hacks. I know, a novelty notion among the geekry.
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You shouldn't take science lessons from Abrams, Orci and Kurtzman, you know? Makes you look like an uneducated fool.
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Unlike some hacks that the geekry here loves to suck their cock because they were fooled by hype like idiots.
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his teen heartthrob image. Baz Luhrmann and James Cameron fully exploited his looks for the teen/tween market, and after Titanic he was little more than a piece of pretty meat who could act a little. Titanic very nearly wrecked any chance of him being taken seriously ever again. Fast forward 12 years and you have to say his choices have been outstanding. He could very well win Best Actor within the next 10 years and no one would begrudge him.
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fluff Nolan some more!! can you deepthroat his wang and balls!fuck!!
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Seriously, Actors are just a bunch hybrid driving, democrat supporting, vegan pussies. Appreciate their work to an extent, but do not idolize them! Don't be a sheep! ....and ASIMOVLIVES IS A FUCKING PEDOHILE BITCH!
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acts like nobody else likes good directors. but geeks do like good directors. they just don't like sucking their cocks!@!what a fluffer!
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May 08, 2010 3:41:14 PM CDT
AsimovLives should have been shot on a whore's back....
by harryizafaggot
or in another mans ass. The world would be a much better place.
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May 08, 2010 3:42:09 PM CDT
Is it just me or does Dicaprio have the same facial hair in the
by eddiemurphyslaugh
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and shoot his fight scenes too close! the only action he seems to get comes from Asimovs mouth!@!
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The problem isn't that you support Nolan and his movies (for the record, I do, too). But making post after post that are nothing but "Nolan is great", "Nolan is wise" is just a little bit silly. One post praising the man is enough.
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That complaint is just retarded. He slipped up a bit in Batman Begins, mostly because he tried to do the whole "from the criminal's point of view" stuff, but showed genuine talent in directing the tumbler chase sequence. In TDK, the action is fine, just not extravagant, stylized and over the top like you'd see in a Spider-Man or Blade movie. He prefers a more effective type of action rather than just cool looking. Frankly, I'm fine with that, even though I understand why others wouldn't be. That said, the man isn't a bad action director. His action scenes just aren't made to be "mega-super-ultra-cool looking", like a Wachowskis or Zack Snyder movie.
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it's all Greek to me
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This trailer tastes like a linguiça sausage to me!IN NOLAN WE TRUST
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Nolan will cut through Jar Jar Abrhams hypery like a knife cutting through leitão assado.IN NOLAN WE TRUST
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Inception is NOT Batman people, you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.
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Unlike that ass fuck Jar Jar Abrhams, Nolan is THE REAL DEAL. All of geekry should bow down before him like me.IN NOLAN WE TRUST
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IN NOLAN WE TRUST
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May 08, 2010 4:07:42 PM CDT
Instead of STEALING a subconscious idea they are trying to IMPLA
by deanmail
I've never heard of anything like that before. VERY curious to see how that plays out...what kind of idea are they trying to implant?? and how much control do they have over the development of that idea in the hosts mind??
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ominus looks to the selves in the right side of his room.He sees the Bluray Special Editions of BB and TDK and the Dvd of Memento,the batpod miniature,the bob-head miniatures of Bale's Batman and Ledger's Joker and two other toy-miniatures of TDK's Batman and Joker. then looks in his pc monitor and types:shut the fuck up you miserable troll.go get a life.
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oh wait...
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he is not a bad-ass actor with a baby face like his.but then again i liked that fag Reeves as Neo,so probably i will also like Leo in his role in this movie.
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from someone who thinks TDK success was down to Heath Ledger's death. Why don't you fuck off. Really just fuck off.
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is the stupid general american audience.there is a possibility that they are too stupid to understand the mind fuck of Inception and think that the movie sucks.therefore the flick will get bad word of mouth and wont become a hit.its a risk.
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dont cry
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hands down.. the man has not made a bad movie! Memento is the most underwatched movie of all time. The prestige is absolutely brilliant in almost every way concievable and should have gotten way more cred than it did. Batman movies. I can't wait for this to be the best movie of the past two years!
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I agree crashbarbarian. He puts the ass fuckery of Jar Jar Abrahams to shame.IN NOLAN WE TRUST
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It seems to be a collision of Dark City and Martin Scorsese films.
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That gets my vote for the trailer of the year so far. Last year, Happyfat's Awesome Trailer Award was a tie between Star Trek and Where The Wild Things Are. This gave me that same goosebumpy sense of awesome anticipation.
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Does that make you half an idiot? The main plot is not about Leo's character stealing an idea from someone's dreams. Rather he usually steals ideas, but in this case is hired to plant an idea into someone's dreams. Hence the name Inception, as in "starting point".
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For bringing an original idea with great talent involved in a big budget and during summer movie season. Only Nolan.
I'll be there to support it 100%, and I know the movie is gonna own completely.
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What about the Tron Legacy trailer?
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understand Inception. Include yourself when you talk about the "general American audience". You've been caught out as a troll and now you're backtracking desperately as a "concerned geek" worried the film is "a risk". Pathetic pathetic pathetic. Stick your miniatures up your fat ass. Give your fat fingers something different to do instead of typing. Better still jump off a tower block.
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The idea of implanting ideas in people's minds isn't exactly new. Now, we have yet to see how Nolan uses that idea, but you can find that concept in something as mainstream as Harry Potter - the idea of modifying people's memories (by magic, though, in HP) to think they've done or experienced something.
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Arnie had implanted memories in him,a second life.
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If people aren't allowed to bash films before they see them, why is everyone allowed to praise one? Neither has anything but a trailer on which to base these opinions.
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The Tron Legacy trailer was really good too. I guess I'm just a sucker for a well-chosen bit of epic music, which is usually what (IMO) elevates this Inception trailer from being 'just' really good to frickin' awesome.
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fat face into everything
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Have you heard of modulating, accidentals, compound time signatures, key changes, even woodwinds?
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Makes a certain type of score. We havnt really even heard music from the movie. Honestly I like his Sherlock holmes score better than potc. But they do have a lot in common. Besides making crazy intricate music for a action crime story would take away from the visual element, this isn't fantasia where ur making visuals to music you are making music to support the visual story. That's why he's a film score artist and not a classical composer ect. Movie looks badass!!
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That IS true, but Zimmer and the composers who work with him often employ that "one style fits all" sound, whether you're in Victorian England, Gotham City, or ancient Rome.
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May 08, 2010 5:48:32 PM CDT
Chris Nolan = What M.N. Shyamalan wishes to be, but never came c
by --- emperor ---
Chris Nolan. Now that's a director with an original and intelligent spark in his bones. Both qualities, that Shyamalan thinks he has, but soaringly lacks. I'm not even a huge Nolan fan, but no doubts as to his abilities as a creative and original thinker. Nolan understands that shitting out another BULLSHIT 3D film just for the sake of it, is simply a corruption of one's own soul. Sure, the guy wants to make money, but he doesn't want to cheat in the process of making that money. The guy can sleep at night, knowing he's made money off quality work, not fucking rubbish. And as for the punjab curry stinking rat known as Shyamalan, well, that man's entire soul fizzled away with the 6th sense; and what was left of it, manifested in "Unbreakable", and it completely vanished by the ending (which is why that film started off promisingly and ended horrendously).
Well done to film makers like Nolan, who continue to produce quality work, without boring an audience or flopping at the box office. I wish him continued success. -
who criticized it of not being an original story because it ripped off a lot of original sources.Now if the same people claim that Inception did not ripped off anything but instead it got influences from original sources and used them to retell a classic story in an original way,then these people are fucking HYPOCRITES since they use double standards when judging films.
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thanks for response, yes I've seen memories implanted and modified in films like Total Recall, The Matrix and one of my favorites Vanilla Sky...but to put an "idea" in someones head, a thought that inspires a person - from what I've read on this film that's quite specific and different to a memory implant and I can't remember seeing an "idea implant" before so am curious to see how that plays out.
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Gotta love a good curry. You do realise it was possible to make your point without being a racist twat, right?
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May 08, 2010 6:27:42 PM CDT
The previous INCEPTION trailer was attached to IM2, not this one
by george newman
at least it was for my screening thurs night
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Name your favourite film of the past 10 years, and I'll bet its story and/or themes can be traced back to some previous property.
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May 08, 2010 6:46:10 PM CDT
INCEPTION: TURNING YOUR BRAIN TO POACHED CUNT IN 2010.
by stuntcock mike
Can't fucking waiiiitt.
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Avatar is far closer to Aliens than Inception is to whatever-the-heck-you-think-it's-like. Not hating, good movies all (at least).
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If you think this is going to be like Godzilla 90whatever, you need to change your meds.
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How many times do we see that in a movie? Like a billion?
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sorry you missed it.
and the idiotic criticism against Avatar was mostly about its originality not its depth which are two totally different things.
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with the difference that the humans are the aliens.
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May 08, 2010 7:14:06 PM CDT
For those who think I am racist: Yes I am, and so are you.
by --- emperor ---
Everybody is racist. Everybody is sexist. To state otherwise, is being an ignorant, pretentious imbecile. All humans make decisions based on preconceptions and past experiences.
So, if I call somebody a punjab stinking rat, it means I have had a bad experience with those stinking cunts in the past. In fact, there are noisy, stinking punjabs living next door to me. Their stink is insufferable.
Does this mean that all punjabs are stinking, filthy, uncivilized noisy dogs? No. But many of them are. Does this mean Shyamalan is? Perhaps. Perhaps not. The bottom line is, I don't like the guy, and thus, I use my dislike of him to reference the culture that produced him.
Does that make it logical or rational? Yes and no. My outburst does have a rational basis. But humans do not think and act logically, even when they try to.
The bottom line is, if you're going to label me some bullshit buzzword like "racist", you're better off spending your time identifying the root causes of sentiments such as these, rather than throwing around a buzzword for the mere purpose of winning a talkback pissing contest, or congratulating yourself for NOT being "racist" (note: you ARE racist anyway, shithead).
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Sure he's a skillful director, like plenty of others; but I'm at a loss to understand his lofty reputation. MEMEMTO was great. PRESTIGE was much slower and duller, and had a ludicrous ending. (SPOILER! The idea that you could, in the 1800's, invent a machine that would instantly create wholly conscious, functioning copies of humans is just idiotic.) Does anyone even remember INSOMNIA? BATMAN BEGINS had some of the most inept action directing I've ever seen. And without Ledger, DARK KNIGHT would have been just an average movie. There were no jaw-dropping set pieces (the truck chase was fine, but nothing new), no terrific dialogue (I can't recall a single thing Batman said), the plot was muddy; and it actually employed a non-action climax, where basically everyone stands around and talks philosophy. Seriously, why is it considered a masterpiece? I didn't hate the movie by any means; but concretely, what's so great about it? And what's so great about Nolan?
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if only Nolan knew how to shoot a good action sequence then he would be the perfect director...the action in his 2 Batman movies left a lot to be desired...the flipping of the truck was his highlight
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I really like his work, it's just his extreme fans I can't stand.
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fanboys.mystery solved.
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I shouldn't have called you a racist twat, when merely twat would have sufficed.
That said, the whole "everybody is racist and sexist" line is stupid. Everybody has biases, yes... but how those biases are acted upon (like, using offensive epithets, for example) is what separates the "racist twats" (ie you), and the people who are racist in an "everybody is racist" kinda way. To suggest the two forms of bias are in any way comparable is ignorant, pretentious and imbecilic.
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One good movie, the rest overrated.
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Nolan seems works repeatedly with the same actors, I'm sure we'll find some of these guys in the next Batman installment.
DiCaprio as.....?
Tom hardy as....?
Joseph Gordon-Levitt as.....?
just a hunch
who else....
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Ironic that this trailer has a "sponsor" and it is the Robin Hood Trailer... a film which I WON'T be seeing, since Ridley Scott is a tosser.
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Why do fanboys revere him? What's he done to earn their adulation? I just don't see it.
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Now if only that gay fuck Leo DiCraprio was replaced by a real actor like Arnold Schwarzenegger and this was an official sequel to Total Recall, then I'd already declare it movie of the year!
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No reboots, remakes, superhero flicks, mindless explosion-reels, boring bullshit films I've seen a billion times before... While other filmmakers lower the bar, Nolan raises it every time... I'll see this opening night...
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I've already seen it 20 fucking times and I'm not even close to being tired of it yet. I might have to seek medical help if my erection doesn't go away in a little while.
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"I shouldn't have called you a racist twat, when merely twat would have sufficed."
You can call me whatever you want. That only implies that your psychological well-being is dependent on poorly developed and misunderstood social norms. You're nothing more than a wannabe do-gooder and perhaps just a moronic verbal hobbyist.
"That said, the whole "everybody is racist and sexist" line is stupid."
Stupid because it violates your weak psychological integrity? it compromises your poorly built and understood moral structure you wish to identify yourself with?
"Everybody has biases, yes..."
Says you. Do you know what "bias" means? Being biased has no causal/logical relationship with decision making based on preconceived notions. Being biased is being ignorant. Being racist/sexist is being discerning (which is not the same as being biased or ignornant) and to a broader extent scientific. Learn to think, idiot.
but how those biases are acted upon (like, using offensive epithets, for example) Offensive to you, perhaps. I am not interested in your boring life story and your emotional predilections. Nobody cares if a fly shat on your tongue and left a bitter aftertaste for you to articulate your banality. is what separates the "racist twats" (ie you), and the people who are racist in an "everybody is racist" kinda way. So based on your logic, everybody is racist, yet not everybody is a twat. Following this line of reasoning, if one uses "offensive epithets" --which is merely a reflection of one's subjective constitution, which is based upon preconceptions/past experiences (which you term bias)-- then one is a twat. Thus, following your logic, everybody, including you, must necessarily be a twat, which in turn only undermines your 'argument' and highlights my point: you're an idiot. Learn to think. To suggest the two forms of bias are in any way comparable Two forms of bias? You neither know (understand) what "bias" is, nor do you have the mental faculties to begin constructing a system of "various kinds of bias". My point is: In trying to denigrate me, you have showcased your lack of mental equipment to objectively critique and validate your ideals. is ignorant, pretentious and imbecilic. No, doofus. ignorance creates bias, pretentiousness follows from bias to identify with one's psychological identification within society, and imbecility is the product of a human being, who attempts and fails to combine the two in order to form an invalid argument (or winning a pissing contest on AICN). I.e. You. Once again, learn to think, idiot. -
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I'd like to see someone like Nolan just make a regular movie... like Dog Day Afternoon. All the fireworks in the world don't get me as pumped as that scene where he's yelling at his wife on the phone... cause it feels so real I feel as though I'm eavesdropping. I LOVE science fiction and I do think we're in a mini-renaissance of great sci-fi movies, but I have to wonder sometimes whether or not these guys would be able to handle a movie like Taxi Driver or Cuckoo's Nest, where regular people and all their attendant problems, failures, small triumphs, and inevitable frailty take center stage. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean some weepie indie, I mean something 'realistic' with a strong central performance where the guy doesn't wear clown make-up and taunt a man dressed as a bat. Please don't take this the wrong way, I'd just like to see them tackle something like that is all.
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From the fanboys point of view,Nolan managed to revive and turn a favorite among the fanboys,superho-hero comic character and the universe he inhabits, and turn those into a successful movie franchise which is not only very faithful to the dark roots of the character,but also it is serious,mature and very realistic.
Especially with TDK another thing also happened: Its universal critical acclaim from the professional movie critic , its phenomenal success in the BO and Ledger's Joker being oscar awarded,made the fanboys to think of the movie that finally got to the league of the great ones,that it was so good that it could be compared to the classics like Godfather or Heat (i am not joking,TDK was no1 in imdb during its release and fanboys in the imdb forums indeed compare it with Godfather)
And that thing made the fanboys to think that TDK was the ONE movie which broke the barrier between the 'underrated' and isolated comic super-hero movie genre and the rest of the serious,mature and artistic cinema.Fanboys believed that finally not only it was proved that a super-hero movie can be serious and mature and realistic and most importantly a brilliant work of art ,but also this fact was finally acknowledged and acclaimed by the rest of the world which was never into comics.
For the faboys the world which always thought that comics were not serious,they were only for kids,for entertainment,finally started embracing the super-hero genre as something more than just kiddie stuff.And that makes the fanboys really happy because they dont feel anymore isolated from the rest of the world.The things they love so much like the super-hero comics have finally come into the attention of the other people.The fanboys stopped feeling as geeks,nerds,freaks,weird people who dreamed everyday how to become super-heroes in the real world.
Everyone was talking about TDK which means everybody was talking about super-hero comics,which means nobody was ignoring the comics as something not worthy anymore.
IMHO thats what Nolan has achieved with TDK,well in the mind of the fanboys and thats why they worship him so much.
and frankly thats why i cant wait for Batman 3,because i am very interested to see what will happen then.you see Nolan doesnt have Ledger anymore with him and i would like to know how the whole situation will develop. -
"I shouldn't have called you a racist twat, when merely twat would have sufficed."
You can call me whatever you want. That only implies that your psychological well-being is dependent on poorly developed and misunderstood social norms. You're nothing more than a wannabe do-gooder and perhaps just a moronic verbal hobbyist. "That said, the whole "everybody is racist and sexist" line is stupid."
Stupid because it violates your weak psychological integrity? it compromises your poorly built and understood moral structure you wish to identify yourself with?
"Everybody has biases, yes..." Says you. Do you know what "bias" means? Being biased has no causal/logical relationship with decision making based on preconceived notions. Being biased is being ignorant. Being racist/sexist is being discerning (which is not the same as being biased or ignornant) and to a broader extent scientific. Learn to think, idiot.
"but how those biases are acted upon (like, using offensive epithets, for example)"
Offensive to you, perhaps. I am not interested in your boring life story and your emotional predilections. Nobody cares if a fly shat on your tongue and left a bitter aftertaste for you to articulate your banality.
"is what separates the "racist twats" (ie you), and the people who are racist in an "everybody is racist" kinda way."
So based on your logic, everybody is racist, yet not everybody is a twat. Following this line of reasoning, if one uses "offensive epithets" --which is merely a reflection of one's subjective constitution, which is based upon preconceptions/past experiences (which you term bias)-- then one is a twat. Thus, following your logic, everybody, including you, must necessarily be a twat, which in turn only undermines your 'argument' and highlights my point: you're an idiot. Learn to think.
"To suggest the two forms of bias are in any way comparable"
Two forms of bias? You neither know (understand) what "bias" is, nor do you have the mental faculties to begin constructing a system of "various kinds of bias". My point is: In trying to denigrate me, you have showcased your lack of mental equipment to objectively critique and validate your ideals.
"is ignorant, pretentious and imbecilic."
No, doofus. ignorance creates bias, pretentiousness follows from bias to identify with one's psychological identification within society, and imbecility is the product of a human being, who attempts and fails to combine the two in order to form an invalid argument (or winning a pissing contest on AICN). I.e. You.
Once again, learn to think, idiot.
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hey fuck you man - how dare you respond to me so reasonably! you didn't even call me a cocksucker or a fag or a hater. I am insulted.
jokes aside I see what you mean. don't get me wrong it looks good but holy fuck every site and every message board are going fucking nuts for it. I have seen to many awesome trailers turn out to be shitty films to let them trick me anymore. expectations reigned in at all times. -
i want to see something better, something worthy of being called FILM.
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slam the posters, if you will, but leave the BAT POD out of it
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you are not even a passable TROLL. fuckwit
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Yes I think Caine has done a great job as Alfred and in The Prestige, though using him yet again for Inception and then, presumably, for Batman 3 is certainly running a Caine-shaped thread across your repetoire! Leo for Batman 3?? Not sure where he would fit. He's too big a lead actor name to take anything other than a lead role and he's not right for any of those.
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He got dissed.
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Do YOU know what bias means?
"Being biased has no causal/logical relationship with decision making based on preconceived notions."
Bias is not ignorance. Bias is a filter created by your experiences - a lens through which decision making is informed. It is generally unconscious - which is quite separate from ignorance. Just because you lack the self-awareness to appreciate that your decisions are informed by all kinds of biases does not mean everyone else is.
"Being racist/sexist is being discerning."
You're joking, right? Racism and sexism are the opposite of discerning. They are lazy thought processes, by which people are judged and labeled according to a broad set of stereotypes. Do you think calling an Indian person a "punjab curry stinking rat" shows any level of discernment whatsoever? Really?
Swallowing a thesaurus and spitting out big words does not make you smart or insightful. And if me calling you a twat reflects some psychological dependency, then what do you suppose calling someone a
"punjab curry stinking rat" reflects upon you?
I'll tell you one thing - it's not indicative of a well-adjusted, emotionally intelligent adult.
Most people I know would say that it suggests a fair degree of twattery. But I must admit, I am dazzled by your amazing thinkosity, and will surely endeavour to model my thinkering on you in the future. Thank you for the lesson on what it means to be a great thinker. I think I'm learning to think. -
Avatar stands at its own,like Star Wars stands at its own.thats a fact unless you think that its whole universe has been stolen intact from somewhere else.influenced yes but stolen no.so even by that criteria,it remains an original movie.
and there lies the whole point: that this criteria was not taken into consideration when haters were attacking only the influences of Avatar but never focused on the final product of those influences.
But now with Inception,which already from its trailers seems to have been heavily influenced from other works,the Nolan supporters suddenly remembered that art is a product of personal vision and external influences and that you should only judge the final artwork by where it stands by its own.and they only remembered this fact now because they want to use it as the main arguments against the backlash from the Nolan haters who will criticize him that his work is not original but a ripoff.
as you can the hypocrisy is not about what criteria and how you use it to judge a film,but when you use it and when you dont use it.
I am sure even from now that Nolan has created his own personal universe with Inception,just like he did with Batman,but despite how the movie will turn out,the thing is that people will use arguments to defend the movie which in retrospect with Avatar,they kept deliberately denying.In other words they are using double standards which makes them hypocrites.
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It took you the best of 2 hours to come up with that asinine response?
Firstly, I didn't specifically state that Bias is equal to ignorance. You really cannot comprehend anything can you? This is also why you try to use the good old "swallowed the thesaurus" mantra to somehow suggest that I am a pseudo-intellectual, when it in fact is you, who is the psuedo-academic. I specifically wrote "being biased is being ignorant". This does not necessarily imply that bias = ignorance. Further below, I wrote: "ignorance creates bias, pretentiousness follows from bias to identify with one's psychological identification within society, and imbecility is the product of a human being, who attempts and fails to combine the two in order to form an invalid argument..." Can you read (and more importantly, understand)? Evidently not. You're not much of a thinker, which is why you are so pathetic at sarcasm. "You're joking, right? Racism and sexism are the opposite of discerning. They are lazy thought processes, by which people are judged and labeled according to a broad set of stereotypes. Do you think calling an Indian person a "punjab curry stinking rat" shows any level of discernment whatsoever? Really? " Boy, are you an idiot. Firstly, what you have not established what racism/sexism is, which is why you cannot follow on with the rest of your presuppositions. You have not defined anything in your "argument" (speak brain farts), which is why you have none. You didn't even understand my original post, but you continue meandering about "stereotypes"...another buzzword you farted out of your dumb ass. When I stated that you can't think, that certainly wasn't an overstatement. You really cannot do much at all, can you? Everything you type is just a bunch of scribble and brain fartery. There's no content, no structure, no logic in your driveling. In other words, you have nothing to say, besides vent your disapproval of my original post. You're just being a dumb-ass granny, sitting there yapping away at how furious you are at my remarks. Good for you, idiot. I already addressed your problems hours ago: Nobody cares if a fly shat on your tongue and left a bitter aftertaste in your mouth to propagate your banalities. If this is too tough for you to understand, just shut the fuck up. "Swallowing a thesaurus and spitting out big words does not make you smart or insightful." I agree with you there. However, what's your point, doofus? Oh, I forgot, you don't have one. I see. Well, you might as well insert some other random gibberish mid-way through your argument, such as "shitting out brown and black forms of diarrhea doesn't make you an artist". Oh. Okay. Thanks for that. "But I must admit, I am dazzled by your amazing thinkosity, and will surely endeavour to model my thinkering on you in the future. Thank you for the lesson on what it means to be a great thinker. I think I'm learning to think." Dude, you need to work on the sarcasm. In order to do that, you need to have a point. See, when a smart/witty writer is sarcastic, they specifically have a point to articulate. There's no point in your mindless drivel, because there's no content or argument. Learn to think, and then try to re-organize your brain farts into something that's worth discussing. Okay, monkey? Until then, just fuck off, idiot. -
Really. & "punjab stinking rat"?? I read & understand your point. You both have good points. But that kind of terminology is really not cool, even in explanation. Call each other cunts all ya like. I'll buy tickets for the fight. But dial it back guys ok?
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Now I really hate him.
But on the bright side, all this venom and anger in these Type-A pricks may lead to hypertension and possible early heart attacks before Inception gets to theaters. We can hope, at least. -
May 09, 2010 3:07:23 AM CDT
Emperor - Why did you call him a "Punjab curry stinking rat"?
by deanmail
Emperor, this is not an attack or even leading up to an attack, I've just got two questions for you as I'd like you to turn your thoughts to just a simple answer....no deflections, no insults, no long winded politician like debate, just a simple answer to these 2 question please...Why did you call the director M.Night Shyamalan a "Punjab curry stinking rat"? was it just a joke or is that what you truly think of him?
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I just watched Triangle, pretty decent little psychological horror flick. It's my DVD pick of the week, rated 3 chocolate covered pussy juices
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I believe I already answered your question above, whilst responding to Happyfat73, and I quote: "So, if I call somebody a punjab stinking rat, it means I have had a bad experience with those stinking cunts in the past. In fact, there are noisy, stinking punjabs living next door to me. Their stink is insufferable.
Does this mean that all punjabs are stinking, filthy, uncivilized noisy dogs? No. But many of them are. Does this mean Shyamalan is? Perhaps. Perhaps not. The bottom line is, I don't like the guy, and thus, I use my dislike of him to reference the culture that produced him.
Does that make it logical or rational? Yes and no. My outburst does have a rational basis. But humans do not think and act logically, even when they try to. "
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compeltly wrong. Just look at her amoutn of idiots in here who love Micahel Bay and JJ Abrams's bullshit. They all act like emo teens girls in delight at the mention of those two fucking hacks. So, yeah, my opinion that the majority of the geekry have fallen in lust by the hype of shitty directors is always justified whenever there's a talkback related to any of those two untalented hacks. That there has been positive reactions to Nolan's latest is very satisftying, yes, but it hardly compensates from the massive ass kissing that goes around here regarding mega-hack El Abramanito. The scales still tilt pretty heavily on the side of wrong.
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I'm just saying the truth. Anything wrong with that? Since when saying the truth is a bad thing? Those that can't handle it, or feel shamed by it, can go take a hike and go suck the hack of their choice.
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Thats all. Go and praise Cameron, vavreau and the other guys, but Nolan is the best in the world at the moment. people who don't like his work or say tdk's non action finale was just people talking are just allergic to using their brains. It was THe best thing about his bat movies that he didn't turned them into action OMFG movies but into character studies, with some action as a side dressing. i like using my head, so I like Nolans stuff. and don#t bore me now with your plot hole bullshit on tdk. You can talk plotholes into every movie there is, if you want to, so shut up and lets talk about avatar plot holes
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edit button?
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isn't just that the story was borrowed from other stories it was that you could guess every single plot point from within the first five minutes. you can have a unoriginal story idea and tell it in a interesting way but cameron was so focussed on all his new fancy toys that he just went through the motions in terms of putting the actual story to together in a way that wasn't predictable every single step of the way.
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I do agree that the level of fanboy ass kissing the guys gets not just here but all over the internet is way out of proportion to anything he has actually done.
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Why your lack of enthusiasm about INCEPTION? From what i know of you, i would had expected otherwise, i would expect you in the frontlines with a machinegun mowing down the premature-haters. Listen, if alltr his attitude is because someone started some comparison between INCEPTION and AVATAR, just forget it. i mena, how can we even begin gto compare both? Nobody has seen INCEPTION to begin with, so a possible comparison is absurd to say the least.As for the subject of inspiration, previously presented themes and derivativeness, allow me to use a metaphor created by online critic Vern in his justification for enjoying some derivative movies: he equates certain genre movies who uses the recognizable tropes of the genre as if they are blues ongs and musics. Many of them play the sme notes and familiar phrases, but the difference is the interpretation. A bad player will make a poor show of the theme, but a very good player will find a fresh way to play the song again and feel fresh and as if he has owned it from the start. Same thing can be said to movies. INCEPTION certainly has tropes that you can find in any other movie or SF literature. The real question is how they are presented, and that's the real issue. and from what i ahve seen from the brillant trailers, looks like Nolan and his filmmaker partners are making a one hell of a cover. Can't hardly wait.And always remember: two goods do not one bad make.
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Indeed. There are times i truly believe that the online fanboys care more about hype then anything else, including movies.
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When i saw AVATAR (which i really liked, make no mistake), i just wished that soembody could had made a movie version of Ursula K. LeGuinn's THE WORD FOR WORLD IS FOREST and be released in the theaters as well as AVATAR. The same way when in 1997/1998 we got two WWII movies by very well acknowledged filmmakers, Spielberg's SAVING PRIVATE RYAN and Terrence Malick's THE THIN RED LINE. If AVATAR is SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, then THE WORD FOR WORLD IS FOREST would be it's THE THIN RED LINE. The two would show the different ways to present a similiar WWII story but with such different presentations and thematic intentions and artistic vision. Whenever i read THE WORD FOR WORLD IS FOREST, Malick's THE THIN RED LINE always pop to my head as the perfect presentation for that story.I bring up THE WORD FOR WORLD IS FOREST because Cameron's AVATAR shares a lot of elements, them and plot points from the LeGuinn's classic. To have seen a more poetic interpretion of a story similiar to AVATAR's and contyrat it to the laters more classic Hollywood Blocxkbuster Epic style would had been lots of fun.
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I have heard good things about TRIANGLE. Aparently, it's both a slasher-type horror movie and a mindfuck. If true, i have to say i find that quite appealing.
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While watching a movie, nothing beats the feeling of having your brain fully engage to try to understand and clue yourself in inwhat is happening and why and then have the rug pulled from under your feet once in a while. A true feeling of witnessing a mystery unfold. And the fun is not ruined if by the end there's still questions not fully answered or left ambiguous. Not every filmmakers can pull this off. But when they can, those movies are phenomenal. They are the must fun i can have watching a movie.
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May 09, 2010 7:03:29 AM CDT
thats why Memento is one of the best movies ever made
by winona_ryders_pussy_juice
and I want to fellate the Nolanmeister
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turn into either Avatar or Dark Knight debates?
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TDK curb stomped that aids riddden crack whore of a movie
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How u gonna dis Harry then come on his website dis him some more with that username, and talk shit about this movie which this talkback is dedicated to and then talk about boondock saints??? Nigga I should whoop yo mutathafuckin ass for posting some bullshit nonsense like that.. I'll send yo ass to Mexico and make taco meat out yo bitch ass!!!
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It's an old lawyer's trick....talk long enough and throw out enough boring and confused arguments and eventually the person you're arguing might either give up or agree with you. Blur the truth with a flurry of nonsensical words...many jurors are quite taken by that sort of thing....they find it hypnotic.
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Post the rest of your script, I quite fancy reading it.
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Stop proving you are an idiot, we already got the memo.
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It's both strange, wonderful and exciting to see Tom Hansen in this movie. Maybe the events take place in Summer's mind? Let's explore this.
In (500) Days, Tom was an aspiring architect. It was Summer who moved him to shed his fears and pursue that dream. We saw Tom drawing buildings and cityscapes.
Here, we see buildings and the cityscape bending. Coincidence? Hardly!
Clearly Nolan is exploring the Summerverse, literally bringing us into Tom's mind during his depression after breaking up with Summer. This is without a doubt Nolan's most brilliant work yet. Absolutely inspired.
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In your mind what's worst? AVATAR or TRANSFORMERS 2?
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Emelie Deschanel is prettier.
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I have no doubts this film will be great - the trailer looks terrific - but original it is not. And the Dark Knight fanboys would do well to learn that, instead of jumping through hoops to differentiate this movie from Avatar and claim its 'superiority'.
In any case, Ominus, know that morons like Slappyjones represent the last vestiges of the rampant Avatar haters, and that he thoroughly had his ass handed to him by Ace of Wands in another thread. Your ministry is wasted there, my friend. Also, that clown shoes HalfBreedQueen, who bizarrely thinks Avatar is a remake of 'Disney's' (as if!) Pocahontas, when it doesn't even follow the exact plot of that tale. Sorry, buddy, Cameron was influenced by golden-age sci fi literature and countless cinematic and literary sources, not Disney cartoons. He couldn’t possibly have ‘re-made’ them all, could he?
Inception, as has been stated above, is a greatest hits mash-up of The Matrix, Philip K. Dick, Dark City, The Thirteenth Floor, Paprika, Total Recall, and countless others. Hell, using others’ warped logic, it is almost a re-make of these things. This doesn’t concern me, because any person of intelligence is aware that all works of art are derivative in some sense – they aren’t created in a vacuum. But you put them together in combinations, with specifics, novel presentation, and the director’s own thematic concerns, and you get something that appears ‘fresh’. Cameron did this – Nolan will, too. The types of geeks selectively crying foul regarding the red herring of ‘originality’ should get educated as to where the antecedents of all these ideas came from and realize it is a futile and irrelevant effort to do so. Hell, most of these clowns think ‘The Matrix’ is an original film. They are exposing there own ignorance. If you think something is ‘original’ then it is simply a matter of you not being knowledgeable enough to know where the source came from, or what the cinematic, art or literary antecedents of these ideas actually were. Every broad brush stroke has already been painted.
Also, as I specifically stated earlier, THE DARK KNIGHT fanboys because, make no mistake, many of these geeks are riding Nolan's jock because of that one movie - which is not even his best. TDK is a very good movie – nay, even great at times – but absurdly elevated among the juvenile geeks. It is no Godfather or Kubrick rival, not even close. These types are not Nolan fans; they are bandwagoneers. They probably didn't even know who Nolan was prior to Batman Begins, and some haven't even seen his debut feature, ‘Following’ (one of his best), or are even aware it exists. But comic books - wow, those fools sure have heard of those!
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I have seen all of Nolan's movies, including FOLLOWING. And THE DARK KNIGHT is magnificent, a masterpiece. There.
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But I do agree, Following is an excellent film, I even enjoyed Insomnia for that matter.
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To those who do not like Nolan i say this: Fode-te!IN NOLAN WE TRUST
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with stating the truth and speaking your mind. And I agree with you. Chris Nolan's an intelligent and talented director. It's just that saying it again and again as if repeating the same thing like that would have some grand effect (it doesn't, btw) all just comes across as a little bit silly and childish. I mean, what would you rather want? To make a mature and sensible point or to have your thoughts come across in an immature manner?
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I almost have give up on maturity in here, if you know what i mean. I mean, if immaturity has made Abramamnito's bullshit took sway, well, i guess it's time to try the same tactic, only this time for a filmamker who actually deserves the accolades. It's also payback, to make them have a taste of their own medicine.
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and should mind your own business. People say horrible things on AICN and you wanna get all crazy over a name. I've been coming here for 8 years, I don't need a lecture about nick names from a pedophile like you. I would would fuck you up so badly your father would disown you. Your mother would adopt me as her true son and then give some that stank pussy!
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It's "Vai-te foder!". Don't trust online translators for such a complex language with such complex colloquialisms and slang as portuguese.
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We already got the memo, you are a fool, no need to keep on pressing the subject.
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Originality, superior talent, music, writing. What is not to like? I've watched it about 10 times now and I wish I was seeing it today.
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Nolan hasn't made one single movie which people could mistake for weak... or even average, for that matter. One hell of a career!
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I know exactly what you mean.
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from your childporn corporation to grace us with your presence. Cheers!
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No breaks for you from being a fool, though. Being a fool is a fulltime job for you. Your dedication is almost admirable... actually, no it's not, it's just stupid.
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May 09, 2010 10:06:09 AM CDT
Agreed, I think some people hate just for the sake of hating
by vin_diggler
There is know reason to bash Nolan and his films. I am not saying everyone has to like him but he has done nothing but entertained myself and others in my circle for many years. I love the fact that he could just pump out Batman after Batman films and collect his check. But he does not do that, he is a story teller and he has many stories to tell us.
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who fucking stretched the TB. I thought that couldn't happen anymore. I guess someone got around the "automatic space insertion" software that Harry had the webmaster put in. Bravo to you, Sir or Mis! You have hacked the site. Now please go away. You have made it necessary for me to go FULL window on this TB. Plastering sickly purple and almost orange completely across my screen! DAMN YOU!! Damn You To HELL!! Ummm. Where's the trailer? There's just a big empty space up there. More hacking perhaps? Is there no end to this fiendishness?
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RE: AsimovLives - valiant effort on your part but I must warn you that every effort to speak sense to Asimov's obsessive/compulsiveness on these Talkbacks has been an utter failure. He's a bonified thread-killer when it comes to this stuff and he's obviously got WAY too much time on his hands. Cheers.
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I love how everyone talks about wanting "deep, intelligent, mature" films, and then they turn around and say "fucking" every other sentence and how hot ScarJo's ass and tits are. Such consistency.
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I for one have been a bit underwhelmed by blockbusters of recent years, but this just looks quite frankly amazing.
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I don't get some of the critisms of this guy, in a summer filled with remakes of old TV Shows and video game adaptions, I welcome an original story for a major blockbuster.
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May 09, 2010 12:21:28 PM CDT
Seems one of the common misconceptiosn about INCEPTION...
by asimovlives
... is that the movie was totally or partially filed in IMAX. This is not so. No part in the movie was shot in Imax. I guess the fantastic images from the trailer shelped people believed that rumour.
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You really need to stop playing the moral cop. You are not better then others, you know?stop with the moral crusade silliness. and stop your obsession about me. It's getting kinda gay.
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will be Leo realizing he is the subject of the inception, but I don't think that will happen simply because that would put the movie a little too close to Shutter Island territory, at least if they held to the book; I have not seen the film, but I don't see why they would need to change any of the twist at the end of that one. That said, no matter what else you think about DiCaprio, he does seem to pay attention to the films he picks. It would be pretty dumb to agree to two films with the same basic endings, especially when they are coming out only a few months apart. But, we also know of his desire to work with certain directors...maybe that was more of a deciding factor than the storyline. Or maybe the "self-created fantasy" theme is really intersting to Leo. Either way, I hope Inception has a bit more to offer for an ending because it looks to be pretty entertaining.
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There was some smart ass clown above who wrote a lot of "!!!!!" in an atempt to be cute with his post. The result is the stretched TB. It's getting a pain in the ass to read what people's post. The only advantage is that it can spare me the pain of reading Mr Nice Gauis condescending moral cop obsessive sanctimonious posts. Talk about small mercies, but i'm the only one gaining with it, the rest is having their pleasure ruined.
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If that's what you think, you would be terribly disapointed if you knew how many people who came up with deep important phisolophical and psycological issues and themes in history behaved in their personal life. Welcome to human race, home to wondrous dichotomies. People, not the easiest animal to figure out. Unless you are Mr Nice Gaius, he has everything figured out about human nature and the moral dos and don't from living in the statospheric heights of high morality.
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Knowing this is from Chistopher Nolan, one thing i know for sure: this movie will be interesting and it will has it's own voice. If it will play from well know tropes, that's what's remain to known. And evne if it does, the real issue will be how well they will be played. Again, i bring Vern's analogy about music players of blues: they can play again a well know music track, but a good artist knows how to put his own personal style and artistic vision and make it feel like it's new. That's my hopes for INCEPTION. Chances are, i already know many or all of the tropes in INCEPTION due to my SF readings and movies from that genre i watched. but i'm still optimistic, which is unusual for me about most new movies. In Nolan I Trust.
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If only James Cameron, and Jon Favereau had heard these words before making their last movies.
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talking about "The Matrix" isn't original.This is the biggest problem. We have these apologists saying "nothing's original, even the stuff you think is classic, so stop looking for originality."It's the biggest piece of hogwash ever. Yes, it's very rare to invent a whole new genre and do something 100% that has never been seen before. Most people build on existing foundations of ideas, and I think that's the great way to go.HOWEVER, when you're doing that, you are SUPPOSED to put your own original twist to it. Take the genre in a direction that hasn't been done, and THE MATRIX did that. Period. No other movie before the matrix combined martial arts, simulated world, religion, etc into ONE film. So don't tell me it's 'unoriginal' because that is pure bullshit. It is highly original, and that's why the movie has endured as a classic. The problem with Avatar is that it is a movie full of cliches. When you watch the movie, you know beforehand what the characters will probably say and how the scene will play out, and obviously how it will end.So yes, everyone is inspired from a source but when you start LEANING and heavily BORROWING from another source, then you are driving towards clicheville, and that shit is annoying to watch.
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not amazing, but definitely a breath of fresh air. I hope it's not a retread of old ideas executed better (e.g. The Matrix, Dark City, etc) but adds something interesting on its own.and so far, it's hard to tell which way it'll go.
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May 09, 2010 1:29:00 PM CDT
SirBiatchReturns, cliches? Or solid dramatic constructs?
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
The Matrix is full of 'cliches', my friend, as many as Avatar, and the plot was just as predictable. What left turns did that plot take, perchance? Anyone with a knowledge of basic screenwriting and story construction could see where that thing was going. A classic three act structure of reveal, expositional downtime, and action-filled third act, where Neo predictably had to rescue his mentor. Ditto, for the combining of elements into a supposed 'never-before-seen' hodgepodge. How exactly does Avatar not qualify for this, also? Where had you seen the classic 'going native' story combined with the sci-fi staple of surrogate bodies before this (the two actually combining to give a simple but interesting twist on these classic tales), combined with visual imagery straight out of classic sci-fi book covers and art, and to that level of versimilitude? You hadn't.As for the predictability of plot, mere plot mechanics are irrelevant to emotional engagement and deeper ideas of philosophy and metaphor. Even Inception will not buck from the tropes of narrative particularly radically; many here have already likely predicted the 'twist' ending. No matter - I don't look to the pedantics of plot mechanics for engagement in movies, otherwise I would seldom be satisfied.
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"so far, it's hard to tell which way it'll go"That's a very rational position you got there, and I admire that. As for me, and given i make no secret of my enthusiasm and good hopes for this movie, this comes down to the fact it's directed by a filmmaker who so far has yet to disapoint me. In fact, he has awed me with each new movie. Thus, i cna't help but be optimistic. Sure, it call all be hype and nothing else. There's always that possibility. This could be a failure of epic porpostions. It's not out of the realm of possibilities. i know that. Even in my enthusiasm, i know that. Even when i'm enthusiastic about a movie, there's always something of my usual spetical nature that never turns off. But i'm quite optimistic about this movie. It's not too often this happens. Yup, you can say i'm savouring a rare oprtunity. The trick will be to avoid falling victim of the hype. And i'm sure some will think i'm already that. Tricky business this difference between being optimistic and hyped.
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I came to the conclusion that there'sa difference between tropes and cliches. Tropes are dramatic elements which we can see repeated tiem and again. and many times we call them cliches. But i think cliché as more to do with the executuion of those tropes. If they are well executed, it's as if we are seeingthem anew. If executed badly, it's the same old tired cliché. You get my meaning? I don't think we should criticise a movie for using well known tropes, only if they are badly executed. And in THE MATRIX, all those tropes are very well executed. That movie is still a great movie, regardless of what people think of the sequels. As for AVATAR, the probpem with that movie is not the tropes it uses to tell it's tale, but the simplifications it sometimes falls into, it's manichaeism, and the forced heavy handed way it deals it's dramamtic hand, like, how unsubtle and blunt the Na'vis were made unambigiously sympathetic and flawlessly angelic, my personal biggest gripe against that movie, by the way.
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I could be right! I predicted Joseph Gordon Levitt as The Joker! Christopher Nolan scouted that motherfucker out man he'll do a great job if that's the way he goes.
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this new trailer was shown with Iron Man 2, not Super 8, which looks badass all around!!
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That's my hope too, that Joseph gordon-Lewitt will play The joker in nolan's Batman 3. But there's also rumours of Michael Pitt being groomed for the role as well. Which is not a bad choice either.
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Awesome! I'd love to see this trailer in the theaters.
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Something as lively and colorful but with Inception stylings could be epic!
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You realize that this is likely NOT Zimmer's score for the film? It's a score written for the trailer.
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then the end was o.k. but at that point I had lost most interest. Transformers made me want to slit my throat from the opening scene.
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This looks like it could be great, rather than yet another same-old-same-old.
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weird how I thought of this movie and it came on. This all must be a dream.
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you fuckers do is search for themes similar to prior movies. I see Dark City, The Matrix, Dreamscape..etc. No movie is 100% original. If it's been written and filmed from people of planet Earth then it's going to have the same structures, moods, language, expressions, tones, melodies, techniques, dialogue, F/X, story lines..etc. Get it? It's impossible not to have something from another film.
All that matters is how it is executed. Does it work as a good story and movie? I praise Nolan big time for his movie choices.
I love the music in the trailer. I hope it's in the movie. I'm sick of hearing the same shit ever movie.
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all we got was super 8, shrek 4, mcgruber and the Thor teaser. suck though i wanted to see this one on the big screen
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Nolan isn't going to show everything in the trailer. He wants to keep it secret. I bet the studio pressured him to show what we've seen so far. Nolan probably would prefer a black screen only saying:
"I'm Christopher Nolan, my new movie is called Inception. Retards not aloud! Because you won't get it anyways, besides, all you are going to do is mumble assholery like I see Dark City, The Matrix, Dreamscape in this. Avatar fucked your eye sockets, this will pile drive your brain."
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This should be amazing
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Looks great!
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Preach on, brother!
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For what looks to be an amazing movie.
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Srsly?
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I was on meds when I wrote that. I too listen to mostly scores and agree about Dark Knight. I hope they don't go the same route. Well played sir.
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You heard it here first. Bane is the cop that is hunting Batman and takes him down.
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you heard it here first
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Holy Shit! They'r inside a Slinky
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But that's not til XMas timeish.
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and if it's on the soundtrack, i'm buyin' it
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What's this a Dark City re-make?
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nobody really knows what the word means anymore.Turd, you can't possibly think that "A classic three act structure of reveal, expositional downtime, and action-filled third act, where Neo predictably had to rescue his mentor" is a cliche.That, as Asimov rightly pointed out, are some of the CONVENTIONS of the action genre.are you really going to argue that the 3 act structure is cliche? makes no sense.what would be cliche is if protagonist shows up to rescue mentor in a helicopter, and we see this OVER AND OVER again.Again, as Asimov pointed out, cliches are apparent in the execution of a story, not in the story itself.all stories have practically been told from time. This is what makes stories powerful. Read Robert McKee's "Story" and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.e.g. the story of a little boy becoming great is a TROPE. It's been told a BILLION times, and that's what makes it great. However, HOW he becomes great will (and has to) keep changing, or else we get stuck in clicheville.
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What's the matter? Did I stutter?
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but the comparisons to The Matrix are so obvious, I wonder why there is so much (alleged) excitement building for this film? It doesn't really feel new or innovative to me.
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This looks like Ferngully!
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" I like how Emperor tries to intellectualize his racism
It's an old lawyer's trick....talk long enough and throw out enough boring and confused arguments and eventually the person you're arguing might either give up or agree with you. Blur the truth with a flurry of nonsensical words...many jurors are quite taken by that sort of thing....they find it hypnotic. "
You raise a good and interesting point, and I certainly don't disagree that lawyers like to hypnotize the ignorant and simple-minded masses. However, is that what I was really doing? I openly claim that I am racist, but so is everybody else. Everybody is racist and sexist, by the simple reason that (as previously stated) we all base our decision making on preconceptions, be they true or false or something in between (if you believe in the laws of quantum mechanics).
Of course one can always be vulgar about it, like I was. Yes, I am a vulgar and angry man sometimes, who is also racist and sexist. So what? There are certain races, based on past experiences, that I am more partial to than others. Based on the dynamics between male and female, of course I am going to treat a female differently to a male. If I, however, hate females or hate blacks in general (which I don't by the way), does that make me any more RACIST or SEXIST (which is what Happyfat73 was arguing)? The answer is an emphatic NO. And that's the point I tried to make. My point was, being vulgar and hateful about one's natural racism/sexism simply makes a person just that: vulgar and Hateful. Calling this person racist/sexist simply to adopt the holier than thou attitude on a movie forum, is just pathetic. The fact of the matter is, most people just in our society are angry, and using demeaning words does not make one any more or less racist, but it does make one more or less angry/vulgar. When we use this type of language, we articulate our emotions and thoughts more effectively. Even a guy who's lived in the "hood" all his life, using "nigger" every 5th word, simply reflects on his own past and present upbringing based on a particular environment. Sometimes when I see Oprah on, for example, on TV, when I am flicking through channels, I just say "fuck off nigger." It's my way of venting my anger via the knowledge that the terminology is considered offensive. If Oprah were white, I would simply say "fuck off you worthless trashy slut." The point is, this does not imply I have a general hatred for blacks. I don't. If I did, I'd tell you, don't worry. Does it mean I am a vulgar/angry man? Absolutely. Ironically, by continually communicating our disdain and objections to what we subjectively perceive as "racism/sexism", were are simply propagating and institutionalizing it further. In our present world, it's impossible NOT to be racist/sexist. These objectionable terms and sentiments will end, however, once all humans relinquish their hatred for each other and begin rebuilding the world efficiently. I can honestly state, that I do not have a hatred for a particular race or gender in general. However, I can also honestly state, that I do have a hatred for humans in general. I hate how incompetently and inefficiently the world is run, and most importantly, I hate how absolutely nothing is being done about it, because the people that are 'elected' have no fucking idea. Now, I have certainly gone off on a tangent, but the bottom line is, racism and sexism (some more extreme forms thereof than others), will NEVER end, until people pull their heads of their asses and start addressing the root causes of racism/sexism, and indeed the broader world in general, which I won't get into right now. Until then, fuck all honkeys, dune coons, niggers, chinks, wogs, punjabs, pakis, border jumpers, spics etc. as well as Males and Females equally. I have a hatred for human stupidity in general, which basically means humanity in general. If I were an alien, (which I probably am), I'd be the first to destroy humanity. And that's all folks. -
are you me?
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You sound like you need a hug. Or a prozac. Or someone to steal into your dreams and implant a seed of happiness.
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What I really need, is to wake up in the morning, knowing that this planet is progressing somewhere -- anywhere. Anywhere but where it's heading right now -- which is nowhere. Once I start having confidence in the human race, I'll be less hateful. What's this got to do with movies or particular directors, you might ask? Well, the reason why so much utter shit is being shoveled into our mouths every day by so many people (including film directors), because the profit motive will always come before artistic and intellectual merit. Always, with any business. It's the nature of the monetary system. if you deny this, you're either delusional/lying and/or you're a poor business man. If cinemagoers rewarded true ability and profundity over mind-numbing idiocy, then we all would be blessed with a far higher quality of movies. It suddenly would become crucial for hollywood to incorporate high quality work into its business model. One company, I believe, has already done this: Pixar. It's not in Pixar's interest to release a dud. But more people (and eventually humans in general), should incorporate quality and depth into all their actions. For every Chris Nolan, there are hundreds or thousands of Mike Bays (yes I know Mike Bay himself is the cream of the adhd-hack crop). Ultimately, we are all (more or less) movie fans on these forums just uttering our support or disdain for particular film makers. This whole racist debacle started because I can't stand Shyamalan. Others can't stand Mike Bay. Some of your perhaps don't get Chris Nolan's success/reverence. But ultimately, our real disdain should be the entire business model that Hollywood employs: Profits first, all else, last. People like Shyamalan and in particular Bay continue to waste celluloid and resources on utter meaningless shit, and the only thing that's changed now, is that we can behold this shit in 3D. That's the big change now. How much longer are we going to denigrate our own culture and intelligence with expensive garbage produced by all sorts of different businesses, including the film industry? The long-term solution is: change from a monetary based system into an efficiency/progress based system. I.e., the 'profit' would not be purchasing power, but progress/efficiency. The short term solution is simple: Get a good broad band plan, and if you really have to watch Mr Bay's latest explosion fuckfest, just download it and watch it on your plasma tv. That way, you got to masturbate over a few explosions, and Mike Bay is either run out of business, or forced to get a fucking clue (unlikely). The moral of the story: Keep downloading, until there's something actually worth seeing in the cinema. That's the true power of 'democracy'.
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Don't kid yourself thinking this will be movie of the year though. Mallick's coming back hard. But God damn, what an impressive cast in this film. I fucking looooooove Cillian Murphy, Michael Caine, Watanabe and JGL. And the rest are awesome too. Tom Hardy's line at the end of the trailer stole it for sure. This is going to be one hell of a heist movie. And really stylish as fuck too. Everybody's wearing cool vests. Mark my words. The fight between JGL and Watanabe will be the action scene of the year.
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Transformers 2 making bucketloads of coin was nearly enough to make me lose faith in humanity as well. And Pixar are a shining example that creative integrity and financial reward need not be mutually exclusive.
You know what's interesting, though? I live in Australia, and here we have a film industry that has been driven into the ground largely by filmmakers with "artistic integrity", who are true to whatever visions inspire them, but make films that no audience wants to see - largely navel gazing, pretentious, dull pieces of shit.
Here in Australia, we have an industry run by arthouse toffs with no concern for the business imperative of filmmaking.
It requires a happy middle ground - the type of ground populated by guys like Chis Nolan and Pixar - where creative integrity meets the financial imperative. Oh what a world that would be.
Until then, brand-based, marketing-driven filmmaking - remakes, sequels, prequels, requels, squeakuels - will continue to dominate. Aggressive marketing campaigns driving consumers like cattle, duping them through the gates on opening weekend, with no regard for the quality of the product as long as the numbers for the first three days are good. -
Because Inception looks pretty fucking great (judging by the trailer and the talent, anyway).
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THE MATRIX is a great movie and the better know which explores themes of identity and the nature of reality versus simulation. It's the yardstick to which others are measured against. And i welcome that comparison.
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they are just movies. You're talking like its politics, social issues, or world economics.
...but the fact is the movie industry is just an industry that is there to make money and hopefully tell some nice stories along the way. It doesn't change the world.
Just like you I like 'good' movies powerful story telling... but what does that mean? Its means I have certain opinions about what i like and I consider certain things good. You don't like Michael Bay, fine, but a lot of people do. Are they wrong? If they enjoy the "explosive fuckfest" then shouldn't they pay for it?
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It's got Caine, and that's a good thing. But it's got Di Caprio who I've not cared much for. At least you got to see the SUPER 8 trailer. Our IM 2 screening only had the SHRECK one.
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"what would be cliche is if protagonist shows up to rescue mentor in a helicopter, and we see this OVER AND OVER again."We HAVE seen this OVER and OVER again, in dozens of action movies. If we drill down to specifics, my point still stands.Also, when I was discussing the classic three-act structure, I didn't say anything about that itself being a 'cliche'; I was referring to your assertion that The Matrix was full of narrative surprises and was unpredictable in terms of story, which it is anything but. That was a completely different point of the argument. You said "When you watch the movie, you know beforehand what the characters will probably say and how the scene will play out, and obviously how it will end.", referring to Avatar. I say this applies equally to The Matrix - and it will apply to Inception also. It would seem that people simply play favorites when it comes to their definitions of what constitutes a cliche as opposed to a logical dramatic construct - an 'if the shoe fits' attitude. The terms used to argue the difference seem to be remarkably and selectively fluid. As I demonstrated, your definitions could reasonably apply equally to all three mentioned films. On an unrelated note, Robert McKee is a fraud. Anyone who argues that the use of voice-over narration is inherently lazy and the recourse of hacks obviously never saw, for example, Barry Lyndon or Taxi Driver.
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"The fight between JGL and Watanabe will be the action scene of the year."If that's to be the case, Nolan will have to up his game considerably in terms of action direction from what we have seen so far from him. It's by far his weakest area, and the hand to hand combat in both Batman movies was damn near incomprehensible.
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This is the only Inception trailer that actually tells us anything about what the movie is about in a coherent fashion. The trailer looked pretty cool and the cast is great, should be fun.
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I'll never understand why people keep on harping about Nolan not being good directing action. When in fact it's the oposite, he's one of the top directors doing action. If people measure good action as the type of bullshit that we see in a Michael Bay movie or those over-exagerated CGI stuff from movies like GI JOE, then i say for sure, Nolan is better then that crap. Nolan knows more about how to make an action scene then the vast majority of the so-called action directors. This notion of Nolan being bad at action is just dogmatic nonsnese based on nothing at all that can be seen in his movie.
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But I'll wait a few weeks to catch it. Some of the Nol-hards bug the shit outta me for some reason. Somebody else mentioned it, it's like they think he's running for office or something. They're just well-made movies, that's all. And I remember the days when Cameron could do no wrong. At least Nolan doesn't seem to have a trace of Cameron's arrogance. Unlike the Nol-hards. They all think they're in fucking Mensa or something. It's funny as hell.
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*Whew* I'm glad Michael Caine is in this to advance the plot and help the lead character understand their motivations.
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http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810099246/trailer
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...he would be enthralling and still would act better then 90% of the actors around.
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. . .the chance to see this in advance.
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we're all going to be saying: "WTF! That's a dream, I thought this part was the awake part." I bet Nolan blurs the lines between dreams and what's real as a twist to confuse us and to send us down a road thinking one thing then out of the blue a bitch slap, right cross to the fucking head.
And the fucked up thing is when that happens, I bet my lip will be bleeding for real in the theater. I better take some Advil and a bandaid just in case. But the next time I wake up, my lip will be fine. You figure it out!
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Grow up!
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Inception. The trailer felt like I've seen this movie at least three times before. Looks like shit.
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Leo got my respect (acting-wise) with "What's Eating Gilbert Grape." I like the roles he's picking as well... "The Departed","Shutter Island","Blood Diamond","Inception"... it goes on and on. Now, if he'd only taper-down on his global warming diatribes. If he wants to debate someone... I'd like to see him debate Nigel Lawson.
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...in HD. Amazing visuals and music. As for the plot and acting, well, I trust Nolan.
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I would talk s^%&, but I like Nolans work.
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Orcus actually want's to check this out
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