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Hey folks, Harry here with a place for you Talkbackers to really get into it regarding IRON MAN 2. As a result, dear readers, there be massive spoilers below, eventually. Not now. Now, there will shortly be people screaming FIRST! But here's where you can discuss that last shot, where you can chat about Paltrow abuse, Downey's genius, Rourke's hair & bird, Rockwell's shuffle, Scarlett's ass, Favreau's epic fight, etc.... SO get to it, be a geek this is one of the most fun movies you're likely to see this summer. Here ya go...
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The trailer was the whole movie.
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Sparse on action, but loaded with charcater and humour. Just one more action scene about halfway through would have evened out the pacing a bit more.
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G'day, Saw Iron Man this morning at the 11:00 showing. The movie has excellent cinematagraphy and some really fantastic action sequences. The best action though is watching the eye candy in the form of Scarlett Johansson. She looks fantastic in this. A movie like this might get lost in the expanded array of characters that get introduced but not in Iron Man 2. Everybody gets a chance to display their acting chops,from Mickey Rourke as the villian Whiplash to the limited role by Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury. It's a fun movie to watch,with the only complaint being a few more appearances by the title character would not have hurt. The movie violence is of the harmless variety for the most part. It is smart,funny,very cool and I give it 3.5 stars.
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Felt like I saw most of the movie. Action scenes weren't the best (besides Black Widow hallway thing). But character stuff was good, and RDJ is still great, so overall it was a fun time.
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Wait. Wrong movie.
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Took the kids to Toys R Us a couple of weeks ago and they had a HUGE Mickey Rourke cutout on the wall. Love the idea of the guy I know from Body Heat and Angel Heart and Wild Orchid blown up to Kong size and mounted on the wall of the toy store.
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Lots of times the story moves along only becasue the exact right thing inexplicably and illogically comes out of nowhere. Also, the main storyline with Tony's life being in danger just did not make sense to me because there was an OBVIOUS solution that didn't involve him having to go to the lengths that he did. A major character bites it way too easily, too. They really needed one more once over on the script to catch this stuff and fix it, but they didn't. Aside from that, though, the acting was good by everyone except Scarlett Johansenn and the action is nice (except when the action involves Scarlett Johansenn doing bad wirefighting). I give it 3.5 out of 5.
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ironman 2 felt rushed, but overall it was a solid film
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I have to say, I liked the movie a whole hell of a lot.
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They went from trying to kill the heroes, to just landing and doing a heroic stand off or something. They went for the cool look, but logically and plot wise, it was retarded.
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...I made someone change their tb name and i demanded a tb for this (in the vampire tranny tb)... so just to see how powerful i am now... HARRY GIVE ME A FUCKIN JOB!
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May 07, 2010 4:59:40 PM CDT
ANYONE EVER FART SO HARD THEY HAVE TO CATCH THEIR BREATH AFTERWA
by pleasewipemyass
WELCOME TO FLAVOR COUNTRY
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I also liked the spontaneously exploding cows.
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I went to see it today at our firsat showing. I thought it was a great addition to the franchise and liked that we have more of Nick Fury. Enjoyed the end credits scene as well.
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I found the flick to be pretty entertaining, but overall I kept thinking "The first one was much better". I felt they could have better utilized almost every character in the movie.
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Quite frankly, I had a couple of "Spiderman 3" flashbacks during the first half of the film. There were some good moments, but overall it made the same kinds of mistakes other sequels make. Too over the top, too much and it weighed down Robert Downey. First half sucked, second half was solid. Ultimately I was disappointed though. But Rourke is awesome!
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I went to the the double feature last night. Not to say Iron Man 2 was not fun or anything, just Iron Man is a better movie.
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And when Doctor Octopus and the Joker showed up, that was AWESOME!! And then when Mystique and Magneto kicked Khan's ass, and Michael told Freydo that he broke his heart, that was moving. And when Bill & Ted sank Death's Battleship...hilarious!! And Darth is Luke's father...
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In Monaco? Whiplash Could've fucking torn him in half if he wanted to, that was so fucking unrealistic yet very funny scene i have to say, but that was the problem, way too much funny and not too much cool in it. A punch in the face from Iron man would turn your skull inside out. Tony never seemed in danger because you knew that shit was going to be resolved, Whiplash was so weak and the way he got beat, crossing the streams? Really Iron Man and War Machine, you are so gay you have to cross streams. The last scene is how the film should've started, way too fucking talky, I think this film should've ended bad for Tony, it was a giant commercial for the avengers and for thor instead of a standalone film. Everybody apparently is Jerry Seinfeld in Favreau's Iron Man Universe and can crack jokes on the spot, It has more cringe indulging pun-filled dialogue than the Sex and the City movie, Tony creates a "NEW ELEMENT" (and you can't even give that new element a new name) because he moves around a hologram of a globe in a fucking diorama from a video his dad made a billion years ago? what kind of crazy shit is that? MAKES NO SENSE. Give me a fucking set-up for the mandarin not the gay Thor Hammer cross advertising shit at the end. Scarlett was a waste of fucking time, I didn't see a love triangle anywhere. Tony didn't get laid in the whole film, nobody really got hurt in the film. The film isn't cohesive its more like, what will Robert Downey Jr. do next!? Really, the bad guy is some robots? Really? Some fucking robots. The film should've started with the gay start expo robots turning on the people and then had 3 other better bigger action scenes, that action scene sucked, no tension, the scene where they're transporting harvey dent had more tension and it was cooler and they didn't have fucking flying robots. It was a truck and a bazooka.
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So I was surprised by how much screen time she got, though she did have only the one fight scene. She was damn impressive in it. Better than, for example, Jennifer Garner did Electra.
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Is infinitely better than anything this movie had.
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I hate seeing all the bashing on Iron Man 2. It was a fun movie and a good time. Granted, the original is better, so it seemed fresher and different. This is more of the same...which isn't always a bad thing. Who doesn't want to see Downey, Jr. being the arrogant Stark again. And similar to the first film, he only dons the suit 4 times, which makes the movie primarily based on the characters. Since we already know them and the way they interact, it doesn't seem nearly as refreshing and it's not. Don't compare this to the Dark Knight, because it's not. The Iron Man series (I guess we can say) is pure fun, not meant to be a psychological like TDK. Overall, great summer movie, not as good as the original, but that's only because the original is just that good.
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Popcorn is expensive
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Overall a pretty good film - not a great film, not Superman II/ Spidey II caliber...but enjoyable.
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May 07, 2010 5:08:12 PM CDT
I haven't seen it, can I just talk about The 'pede instead?
by jackslater4
Or Celery Man?
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Honestly, did anyone die in this film? Did anyone really die in the first one aside from Jeff Bridges? Does this movie have any likeable characters? Stark becomes likeable during the movie. But everyone else was SO unlikeable. I liked the movie, but it had problems.
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It's gonna make so much coin this weekend! Scarlett...mmmmm...
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Positive http://tinyurl.com/2w9525pNegativehttp://tinyurl.com/33ponq8
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Eat it, haters!
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May 07, 2010 5:11:25 PM CDT
was no even close to being as good as the dark knight
by dark_knight_masturbator
I mean it sucked on all levels. Why should it even bother coming out when the most perfect movie of all time, THE DARK KNIGHT, was already made. Nothing can beat the absolute brilliant film making of Dark Knight. John Favreau cant touch the astounding imagination of Christopher Nolan. Iron Man 2 was sooo bad. I didnt even go see it, because I was pleasuring myself while watching the Dark Knight again.
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At least this guy knew how to act.
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I watched both back to back at the Alamo Village last night. I said in Capone's review's talkback that I liked this one as much as the first one. They both had really awesome moments and a few wtf moments. I completely agree that the Monaco scene was so unrealistic that it really took away from the whole thing. And it was over in like 3 minutes. The final battle scene was wickedly awesome... and then all of the sudden it's over. Pretty much all of the actors and actresses did an excellent job, though I have to say that Pepper Potts was far less likable in this movie than in the first one. She pretty much bitched at Tony the whole time. Mickey Rourke nailed the role of Ivan "Whiplash" Vanko. The character was chillingly calm and patient, and absolutely brutal when he needed to be. The Avengers stuff played perfectly in the storyline and didn't play as big of a role as most people will have you believe. Scarlett was awesome, but had no accent so that was a bit disappointing.
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wasn't impressed at all. I really liked the first one, but part 2 was just meh. The action lacks any real tension and only excites 12 year olds (or people with the state of mind of a twelve year old), the story barely moves anything forward, nothing really changes, no character growth, nothing has an emotional punch or real danger to it and Tony Stark wastes half the runtime of the movie by building his chest thingy... again. I loved downey in almost all his scenes and I really dug sam rockwell and rourke. Heck, I even found black widows action scene pretty nice, even if her character didn't needed to be in this movie at all. It was overall all right and not a waste of my money, but I won't see it again. Not in cinema and not on dvd or blu. Don't have any high hopes for the avangers anymore, to be honest.
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Spoiler alert! I love the very very end after the credits seeing THORs Hammer!
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don't know what they are talking about. TDK and even batman begins are in a whole other league of filmaking. you cannot compare a nice nice cheeseburger (Iron Man) with a 5 star chefs special menu (BB and TDK). You just can't. Its ok if you like the cheeseburger, but thats quality wise not comparable.
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Seriously, its a comic book movie... and it was fun. We seem to forget how bad these movies used to be. I notice that most of the bad reviews from normal people I have read seem to say the same thing that one or two bad reviews have said... they just dont want to like it anyway.
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Harry thinks IRON MAN 2 is better than the original.
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As someone who hasn't read the comics... what the fuck was that about?
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Too bad Stan Lee's cameo was shorter than the first film. I thought it'd be funny to see him interview Tony as Larry King.
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I enjoyed it a hell of a lot. ScarJo was gorgeous, Tony was still fun, Rourke was Rourke, a guy you just don't want to fuck with but Tony had to, and Cheadle made me forget Terrence Howard's Rhodey real quick. Sam Rockwell is the one I feel got shorted. He was good, but the character felt more there to aid the plots of the other characters but could have been replaced by any weapons manufacturer CEO and done the same thing. Just a waste of his talents. But overall, I enjoyed it quite a bit and will definitely pick it up when the blu ray drops.
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could read the phonebook while taking a steamy shit in 3-D and I'd still pay to see it. A shit. In 3-D! With all the corn and peanuts you never wanted leaping off the screen at you. As long as it's coming out of HER ass, I'd still see it. Now THAT is one gorgeous woman!
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Best acting in the movie. But why didn't he just run away at the end instead of waiting to be arrested? Maybe he was packing a mashed potato bomb up his sleeve. Also, didn't really like Rhodey/Stark brawl. I would have rather seen more of Iron Man doing Iron Man stuff like blowing up terrorist cells and whatnot.
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I have to wonder. I you were one of the few who didn't know there was going to be some after the credits cameo of Nic Fury in IM1 and thus missed the short scene, would you have any idea who/what/why he's in IM2?
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nuff said.
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May 07, 2010 5:28:45 PM CDT
people, seriously...of course Whiplash could have killed Tony
by badmrwonka
at Monaco...he purposely didn't. he even SAYS as much. seriously, this isn't as complicated as The Dark Knight, you shouldn't be missing stuff like this.I enjoyed the movie, but the only thing I found too jarring was how quickly the action scenes turned into "funny dialogue" scenes. I wish there had been a more continuous tone, it seemed like as soon as the showed too much fighting and danger for too long a time, they were like, "Oh shit, have RDJ make up some funny banter really quick!!"I thought the pacing of the film was great overall, it just felt a little odd how fast the character recovered from their situations of almost certain death, to crack jokes. funny as they may be, it just rang a little weird to me, considering how perfectly the first film pulled off the balance.
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Holy shit. You called it for Black Panther. That's BADASS RIGHT THERE.
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it was the only effing time we got to see Iron Man kick but without the help of the fucking army!!! But, Whiplash should have died after Harry smashed the limo on his legs like 500 times.
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than IM2?yesterday i had this interesting conversation with a friend of mine after watching IM2 where we we wondering why IM2,although a good entertaining movie,turned out not to follow the cannon that wants the sequel comic movies to be better than the first origin movie.and my friend said something interesting.That in IM1 both the director and the cast admitted that there was no script when they started filming the movie.Instead they were making the story while filming the movie.The director and the actors contributed a lot to the story and to the general direction of the film with their ideas and their opinions.And maybe Bridges input was the key factor,the core ingredient that made all the ideas and the vision of Favreu to merge together perfectly and elevate the final result into a very entertaining and well-crafted origin movie.But in IM2 two things were different.Brigdes was not part of the creative process anymore and although again there was no script and RDJ and Favereu started filming while incorporating their ideas for the new story,Marvel at the last minute brought a script writer.And maybe there lies the problem.The final movie was missing the elements while new,different elements were added which instead of making a better movie than the original,they turned the sequel into an inferior movie.anyway.
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She's on screen a lot, but does very little besides look bored and then look really awkward and forced in her one fight scene.
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That thing was distracting the shit out of me and they only put it in to distract you so it would be funny when Tony hated it also.
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May 07, 2010 5:32:06 PM CDT
If you like loud noises and pretty shiny things, this is the mov
by sifodyasjr.
It was not terrible, but nowhere near the level of the first one, mainly because the story just wasn't there.
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It worked for Downey to make Tony an even bigger cocky asshole than he was in the first film, but Pepper was a bitch and Rhodey was a traitor. The only "good guy" who wasn't a total prick was Happy Hogan. Coincidence?
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I really enjoyed his bits. little things like his smile when Hammer leaves the room with two "bodygaurds" watching him, knowing he's going to murder them. and then how casually we see him on the phone with the bird back, wiping the blood off his hands as the guards swing in the background. pretty well done scene, overall. I chalk that up to Theroux's writing.
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Nothing to do with the comics... Its Mickey Rourke's real bird, and Mickey Rourke is crazy. Just like he carried his dog around in Once Upon a Time in Mexico
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There. His life's saved in 10 seconds with some wire he could've picked up at Home Depot and some of the movie's stupider moments are fixed.
If they really wanted us to feel like Tony's life was in danger, they should've had his liver failing from all the drinking he'd done and said he couldn't get a transplant because of some genetic quirk. It's much more believable and relatable. Then he could still "solve" the liver problem in the end through Stark Tech. -
I'm pretty excited to see this one. I found the first one to be pretty good (not TDK good) but I was looking at my phone a few times during the slow parts. I just think everyone on AICN has a RDJ fetish just like everyone on AICN has a Michael Bay death wish.
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Seriously... wtf was he saying to Hammer? Their interactions were a bright spot in the film, but I wanted to know what he was really saying to that cocksucker's face!
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If you're putting up "articles" where the members can just go at it in the talkbacks.
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All the attention on the talkbacks have been focused on RDJ, Rourke, and Scarlett Jo's ass, but Rockwell's sniveling wannabe-cool-Tony-Stark Justin Hammer was great. A great goofy foil to Tony Stark. I just wish that Hammer had been written to have been more of a credible threat instead of just an incompetent joke, though.
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How the fuck did the UK get this earlier than the states?Anyway, first half was great, second half was a mess.Only the sheer star power of Downey Jr kept this from falling apert.And fuck the Avengers. Who gives a fuck? We're all bored of superhero movies now.
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Sick of it all. Can't be arsed. Same stories over and over, just different costumes and names. "Oh, the [city, country, world] is in danger! Help [Batman, Iron Man, Superman, X-Men, Incredible Hulk, Fantastic Four], please save us!" Will some ambitious filmmaker please give us something on the scale of The Godfather, or Lawrence of Arabia, or The Seven Samurai? Would it kill a studio to devote $200 million to try and make this happen instead of plowing it into another comic property?
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I enjoyed it a lot.
I am good at managing expectations though.
Anyhow, the PACKED 1150AM screening I went to had a hoot and freaked out during that one moment when War Machine and Iron Man destroy the onslaught.
Also, crowd went nuts at the Thor clip at the end. I was shocked honestly, by the response. People went NUTS.
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High bar to meet. I think they played up Tony eccentricity a little too much and there were a few little things that bugged me as not making much sense, but I was happy overall. Solid follow up. Going forward, I want some villians that are more than "the next suit". I think after Avengers & Thor, we can go supernatural or alien at this point.
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The whole "Go get 'em boss"...did I miss something or was that not there?
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Slow the fuck down! The Robot drones take off. Fly around a parking garage, then poof it's fucking over. I liked the scene on the ground with all of them just blasting at each other.
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Rourke: Mumble, mumble, mumble. Hammer: Build my robots! Rourke: Mumble mumble, Stark, mumble.
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Would see it again. Cheadle was better than Howard, for sure. Scarlett, rrowr. The interplay between Tony and Pepper works well as it did before. Rourke held his end, Rockwell got on my nerves but in a good way, and the War Machine armor was OH HELL YEAH, GIMME THAT. My wife, a non geek, said it wasn't as good as the first, but she still liked it.
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Its a good time but you'll quickly forget the experience. The TDK comparisons were stupid. IM2 isn't fit to wipe TDK's ass. There is no comparison to make.
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I know I'll be in the minority but Iron Man 2 fell completely flat for me. I never once felt drawn into the movie. I think I just don't like Jon Favreau's style of "pop" filmmaking. He's got the teal & orange color scheme of a Michael Bay movie, way too many quick cuts and no sense of geography during action scenes, and an over-reliance on using pop rock (AC/DC, Queen, etc.) to score the movie. You hired a composer - USE him and don't just bury his work in the mix like it's a temp score. About the only thing Jon is good for is getting decent performances out of his actors. That said, if anyone else other than Robert Downey played Tony Stark, as written here he'd be totally unlikable. Sam Rockwell, fresh off the underground success of "Moon," stole every scene he was in for me...but you guys are right, it's a shame that he was continually played as a joke rather than a credible threat. That said, he was one funny joke - and probably the most entertaining part of the movie. I hate seeing $200 million spent on a flick and having to ask myself, "Did this people realize how limp the story felt as they were making it?" It gave me the same feeling I got from the Pirates of the Carribean sequels: a bunch of CGI sound and fury, signifying nothing.
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seems quiet in here...a little too quiet
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The first film's only real weakness was the big fight at the end (Stane was more interesting than Iron Monger, in other words). Here, though, no such flaw exists- the end battle is quite awesome (and they even managed not to give away the fully armored Whiplash at the end in the previews), the cast is great all around (with only, maybe, Sam Rockwell's character feeling slightly out of place from everyone else, but he plays the role well) and it maintains the fun and humor from the first one, while working in a slightly darker story. And "Land of Enchantment" was a great little touch. Never knew that was their slogan. I think it stands alone very well (well, alongside the first movie) and doesn't leave any major dangling plot threads (outside of the "extra" scene in new Mexico), so it doesn't come across as "Setup For Avengers" (Avengers stuff is only relevant in two small scenes and even then are generally in support of the "Tony can't go it alone" theme to the plot). Whiplash was handled much better than Iron Monger (especially since they had to hide Stane as the bad guy for half the first film when he's only really enjoyable when you know he's the bad guy on repeat viewings). Rourke brought a lot to that role in the small touches. Only Potts has less presence (since her plot shares with Black Widow) than the first film, but what is there is good. The score, though, was practically invisible the whole movie and lacked any of the more memorable themes from the first film's score (which, granted, aren't as memorable as other superhero themes, but they were far better than anything in IM2- "Mark I" and "Driving With the Top Down" in particular), except for a brief moment towards the end (or was it in the credits? I forget) that seemingly brought up part of one of the original Mark II/Mark III themes, but not overtly. Maybe it'll do better listening to it on CD, but it definitely comes up short compared to the (underrated, IMO) score to the first film.
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But no matter what, he can't. He just can't. *sniff*
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PG-13 bullshit or what?
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.....and he was really underused this time.
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is a fine, fine thing.
saw this Monday in the UK. it's like the first film only busier and funnier. what it doesn't really do is take it to the next level in the way that, say, X-Men 2 did or the Dark Knight. but it does seem to lay a lot of groundwork for the Avengers. It also makes full use of Scarlett's goodness, and for that it deserves high marks... -
Maybe they didn't show it (except for the fake-Vanko prisoner and the two guards hanged from the ceiling) but I definitely got the impression that more than a few people died in that expo shootout and various jet-robot crashes.
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not better than the first if you ask me... and if they follow this trend and go cheesier by the third one we will get something as bad as ALL TH OTHER superhero 3rd installments... but something more reminiscent of Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer.
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May 07, 2010 6:10:54 PM CDT
I actually went up to the projection booth to wipe my ass
by anything but tangerines
with the celluloid but it turns out it was a digital showing
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Irrational dribbling spew I realized how important a good old reliable movie critic is.
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Iron Man 2: Full Throttle was so awesome! It was like the all time best sequel Charlies Angels: Full Throttle but like at least two times better than that. How is that even possible right? Charlies Angels was so awesome. Well Iron Man 2 is even more awesomer. http://j.mp/d54uWH
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May 07, 2010 6:17:03 PM CDT
Can't wait, I'll be leaving in 1 hour! Get to da CHOPPA!
by ganymede3010
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And he masters how to use the suit in under 10 seconds while Tony had to spend months mastering how to fly?
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I understand it's just a teaser, and the thing they wanted to tease was the 'Berg/JarJar Abrams super team-up, but it didn't exactly make me ejaculate diamonds, or however the saying goes. Would a pick-up truck really blow up an entire train like that? And they put combination locks on the film canisters for that?
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After all the complaints about the Iron Monger fight from Iron Man 1, we get an even shorter fight against Danko and once again it was a night scene.
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Sam Rockwell almost ruined it for me! How is this guy allowed to keep making movies!?! Sam Rockwell is AWFUL! He destroyed Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy for me, and ALMOST destroyed IM2. Don Cheadle is a little too skinny to play Rhodey, but he did a good job. Happy Hogan is mentioned, but I don't think we ever SAW him. It would have been nice. The Avengers "nugget" at the end was fun. All in all, well worth yer time.
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Reading this talkback is just plain disheartening. There really is no pleasing the people here.Iron Man 2 didn't even feel like a sequel. It felt exactly like the first one, and was just as good. If you cut out the end credits from the original and the opening from the sequel, the movie would play seemlessly as a single film. Honestly, some of the criticisms here are sickening.
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..and was better on 2nd viewing. It opened up the world/history of Stark and the MCU. Only complaint is the 2 big fight scenes with Whiplash lacked the feeling of danger - a little less jokey, please.
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That bothered me, but I can excuse it without too much trouble. Rhodes is Tony's best friend and has a passcode to Tony's house and his private basement lab where he keeps the armor, so I could imagine Tony gave Rhodes some lessons in how to use the armor and for Rhodes to have picked it up pretty quickly based on his background as a test pilot. Also, Tony only took a few days to learn how to fly the suit, not "months."
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IM2 needed a central arc and goal for Tony Stark. And the villains need to be part of that conflit. As it stands, Stark doesn't want Hammer to make mecha. This is the major conflict. It just seems self-serving. Stark isn't out for the greater good.
And stop praising TDK. If you have half a brain, you realize that movie is more flawed than either Iron Man movie. It's about nothing. It has a scattered "plot" with holes in it the size of the semi that flips. It has a boring main character. And it's villain is an emo-wannabe. No wonder why fanboys love it so much. -
Jon Favreau cast HIMSELF as Happy Hogan. He was Tony's sparring partner, Tony's driver who saves the day and delivers the suitcase armor, beats up the security guard when he and BW go to hunt down Whiplash at the end, etc. He expanded his role greatly this time around and I thought it worked.
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some really enjoyable moments, but tonally all over the place. the actors did a lot with a little, but this really did have a special "Marvel" (read: made by committee) vibe to it. The first film was written by the team behind the team behind "Children of Men" this one was the work of half the team behind "Tropic Thunder"......it shows.
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one word review of Iron Man2: good. that is all.
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The character arc was that he was dying and this knowledge was driving him to act egotistical and do crazy and self destructive things to mask his desperation. That bit was fine.
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RDJ and Mickey Rourke were great. But rather than make a timeless comic villain role for Rourke, his character was barely used and the finpl fight was VERY disappointing.
They are doing a horrible job of tying in these movies to the Avengers, but that's forgivable.
I think I was hoping for a film with a much stronger narrative and better use of dramatic tension.
Stark dying because of the power source is a fine idea, and most of the time the hero would be willing to sacrifice himself to save the world. Instead Stark crumbles and breaks and resigns himself to death, until a deus ex machina arrives in the form of his fathers work. And then we see a WTF scene of Stark creating a new element for his power source and voila he's back to normal. There was little to no drama in the film as presented.
My major gripe occurs after Stark has the new power source. He once again fights enemy men of iron, noone of consequence is even injured and all turns out well.
I think the film would of had more impact on me if there was serious collateral damage as a result of Stark considering himself a god and the sole protector of earth.
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Christopher Nolan is my master.
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Apparently there are no Home Depots in the Marvel U. Seriously... buy a couple of feet of wire and relocate the arc reactor somewhere outside the body. Fucking simple solution. Yet Tony Stark and the best and brightest minds of the Marvel U had to invent a new element? Seriously??? You'd think they would have jumped on this for some product placement like they did with the "American cheesburger" from Burger King(!?!?) in the first one.
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Liked it more that part one.
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are fucking retarded. it's like most of you who are talking either didn't see the movie, or need to get the fuck out of the house more often. It was a fucking badass movie and some of you are complaining about the dumbest shit.
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Not sure when I'll get to see this (unemployment's a bitch), but now at least I don't feel like I'm missing out on all the fun.
A few of my thoughts based on your opinions.
I too had felt as if I had seen the whole movie from the trailers. Not that that always bothers me because getting from point A to point Z can still be a helluva lot of fun.
Someone said Black Widow doesn't have a russian accent. WTF? Too many ruskies in the movie? I mean that certainly won't ruin the movie for me, it just seems kinda dumb. Although, I'm sure it had something to do with the acting talents of Scarlett Johansson. While pretty cute, I've never accused her of being a great actress.
I was dissapointed to hear about the lack of action sequences in the movie. I mean, I love RDJ as much as the next geek, but we go to the Iron Man movies for one reason, TO SEE IRON MAN!
Lastly, why waste all this time and not somehow introduce The Mandarin? I thought that's why the terrorist's in the first movie were called The Ten Rings or whatever. I figured we would find out there was a Bin Laden type character behind them and Obadiah Stane in the sequel. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't The Mandarin Iron Man's arch enemy?
Anyway, from what I gather it's sounds like this could've just been a chance to cram a lot of stars into a big blockbuster and have them chew scenery. If it's fun, then right the fuck on! If it sucks, then oh well, bring on The Mighty Thor! -
must be a homeage to the a-team tv show......
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Overall the movie was amazing, great action sequences, the last one was flat out awesome, although the fight with Samurai Whiplash could have been longer. Rourke was intense, and the Black Widow fight scene was incredible and also part of the funniest moment in the movie. It was as good as IM1 but different, was it better, no, but does the sequel have to be better? The big difference between IM1 and a lot of those other films that had better sequels is that those other first films, Spidey 1, Superman 1 had some pretty big flaws, whereas IM1 was absolutely nailed. The weakest part of the movie for me was the portrayal of Hammer as he never seemed like a viable threat to Tony and the writing made him more of a joker but in the comic Hammer is very dangerous and major threat to Tony. But overall just loved the movie and will be going again on my next day off.
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in this flick! Don't dislike her but there was no point!
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Lets see...Stark saying that there's nobody willing to go head-to-head with him, only to have someone show up and knock him on his ass (albeit briefly)? Sounds like the start to "Rocky III". Stark getting drunk and becoming derilect in his self-appointed duty as protector of the world? Sounds like "Superman III". An expo where the bad guy is showing off his new robots, and they go haywire with a lot of innocent people in the way? Sounds like "RoboCop 2". Just sayin'...
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The fight between Rhodey and Stark was one of the many highlights and of course there's scarlet (who should have played "scarlett" had Sommers had taken the GIJoe franchise more seriously.)a piece of ass that kicks ass.Cheadale did a better job as rhodes than howard so i guess he wont be missed at all.Rockwell nailed it as hammer although his version is not the one that is all too familiar from the comic and props to Rourke, as Whiplash/Crimson Dynamo.Shit, even ol skool favorites courtesy of the Clash and Queen.Glad I didn't walk away dissapointed like many superhero films nowadays.
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No reason for Scarlett Jo or Black Widow in this movie. She gets one fight that just looks awkard and forced. I can't buy her as a badass, even though she does have one bad ass on her.
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for not turning this into a TDK vs. IM talkback. I can't express how much that shit irritates me.
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What was Stan Lee's cameo? God damn it somehow I didn't see him. Maybe I fell asleep and that's why it seemed like there wasn't a story. Somebody enlighten me!!!!!!!
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...for finally putting some quality T&A back in comic book movies. Bruce Wayne has arm candy, sure, but Tony Stark keeps his surroundings saturated in top notch trim.
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Some parts (Whiplash) were even BETTER. Also, Black Widow almost gave me wood. I love reading all these retarded posts. People always expect to be blown away like they were the first time. Thanks for being such ignorant clods.
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It has kind of a Rocky III/Superman II feel to it. It knows it's a pure popcorn flick and revels in it as it should. I just wish they'd worked out some of the internal logic issues in preproduction. The "Tony's dying" subplot seems like it was written by Michael Bay, both of Whiplash's action scenes start out promising but have cheap elements to them, Pepper becomes an unlikeable bitch, Black Widow and Nick Fury have no reason to be here, etc. The actors and humor really saved this one, though.
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He's why I went to see it this afternoon. But was kind of disappointed by how they ended up on screen. I'm sure he made some awesome boards. Would love to see those.
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The way that Tony was supposed to be dying, and then the way he fixes the problem, both seemed like plot points cribbed from a Bayformers movie.
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Now there is a pickle!!
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Anyway, stoked to see IM2.
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Stop making excuses for shitty flicks by saying its a fun movie. Iron Man 2 IS a shit movie. Stop pretending, it'll hit you soon then you'd wonder why you idiots were in self-denial.
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A dude in my theater yelled out "JUSTICE LEAGUE!" I looked at him, shook my head, and laughed...
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Go fuck yourself.
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Standing at the back being ignored.
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BW's fight scene is anything but forced, she is smooth with a nice blend of gadgets and skill she dispataches roughly a dozen guys while barely breaking a sweat, she was awesome in that scene and the contrast with Happy basically getting his ass kicked until the end was hilarious.
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Sam Jackson or Morgan Freeman. Discuss.
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Ditto
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What were your expecatations going into this movie? IM2 is a good as IM1 but different. Were there a few things that could have been better sure, but that is true for every moive. The action sequences were incredible every one of them more compelling than any action scene in TDK, which are muddled and almost impossible to follow, and the last scene lays waste to any action sequence in any superhero movie.
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Now that you did what you did, you're a retard. You just can't accept that all that hype was for shit.
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But absolutely flatlines as an actress and in chat shows.
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Wait...there weren't any black people in Batman Returns!
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I thought the movie was just as fun and enjoyable as the first one. The CGI effects have really gotten to the point where I can't tell them apart from the real stuff.
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More compelling than any action scene in TDK? Don't make me laugh! TDK can't be topped.
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His Justin Hammer was his old Zaphod routine, with a touch of Confessions of a dangerous man, didnt seem to be acting at all. Only RDJ and Gwineth were acting decently, ScarJo was horrid, never thought to see a Black Widow so dull.
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Yeap that's what it is. Gotta be the hype. I lose sleep at night cause some delusional bitch on the internet thinks Marvel spent to much on hype/marketing Iron Man 2. Hahaha. I love it.
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Get em' Tim!
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Did I miss something? I thought she was supposed to sex it up a little too.
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So now the truth comes out you are one of those TDK fanboys whose primary education came from watching animated Batman DVD's and thinks that TDK is the greatest movie of all time with no flaws. You had no intention of giving IM2 a chance as you went in looking for things not to like becuase like all TDK fanboys you feel threatened by any superhero movie that is good and so you try to tear down every other movie to make TDK seem even better, pathetic. While TDK was good and I enjoyed it I could nitpick it to death. As far as action scenes go both in BB and TDK they are a muddled mess as you can barely tell what is going on. You get the gist that Batman is kicking butt but that is about it. IM action scenes are crisp, clear and Batman can only dream of having the circular laser move that IM unleashes at the end of the movie. There is really no comparison at all in that regards and don't get me started on the Batman gravelly voice, which is so distracting it makes you want to leave the theatre whenever Batman is talking or wish that Batman was actually a mute as I would find him using sign language preferable over the horrible, nails on chalkboard gravelly voice.
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there was another scene with her which was to sex up the things,but unfortunately because it sexed upo the things too much,Faverau had to cut it from the final cut.Expect it in the dvd's deleted scenes.
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and to think it only took the franchise 6 or so movies to get it right.
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its expected to break also TDK first weekend record.suck it haters.
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....a mediocre sequel. Fell asleep half way in.
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You're dumb
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LMAO, you're arguing that Iron Man had laser move, that;s why its better than TDK?
"Lights pretty. Lasers go pew pew"
Yeah, that is why its better than TDK. Go watch some Ben 10 cartoons. TDK is more realistic in its action scenes.
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scarjo. nobody in hollywood likes her ar all.
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May 07, 2010 7:17:45 PM CDT
Loved it...for the most part. (SPOILERS towards the end)
by nubthesquirrel
For the most part, I loved it aside from the ineptitude of the theater staff that accidentally skipped over the trailer for Inception and Super 8 with the digital projector. Fuckers.
First complaint: at no point in the movie does anyone ask the Russian bad guy to say moose and squirrel. That is a running joke in any comic book by Marvel and every cartoon as well, whenever they are talking with some who has a Russian accent, the hero or other characters asks the Russian character to say moose and squirrel. It is a funny joke, and it would have definitely played well in this movie. It is a minor nit pick for me, but still one that I would have loved to see.
Complaint 2: and my chief complaint, and isn't necessarily against the movie itself, is that the amount of hype that has come out about this movie alone has been nothing short of annoying. That fact that for the first few months of production, all we heard about was all the big stuff. Nothing was kept a secret and nothing was held sacrosanct. Everything was sent right the hell out into the open and even the post credits end cap wasn't held a secret. I hate that we live in a world where everything needs to be shoved down our throats and the only way to avoid any kind of spoiler is to essentially live a monk like lifestyle. This movie out of all of them has been the worst example of this kind of hype.
A couple of spoileriffic questions though. The first one is Captain America's shield. My curiosity is why does Tony have it? Is it a prototype that was being worked on by his father? Is it a replica of the shield? I know that Tony's dad Howard had some dealings with Cap during World War 2 but why does he have that shield? And why was it half finished? Perhaps some improvements on the shield to be revealed in the Captain America movie or even the Avengers? Just a couple of questions that I had.
Mjolnir drew a collective gasp out of the entire theater when it showed up post credits. I know that Agent Coulson will be making his return in Thor so I am wondering where in the groundwork that has been laid out by both of the Iron Man movies and Incredible Hulk all this will be worked in. I know where it will figure in, because the Thor movie is just a year away. But the question as to why Mjolnir is separated from Thor is my curiosity and I hope that it is explored in the Thor movie.
Finally, where exactly does Hulk figure into all of this? The end of the Incredible Hulk had Tony Stark approaching General Ross about starting a team, right? Does that mean that Hulk perhaps take place AFTER the events of Captain America and Thor?
Thanks for taking the time to read my shit.
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She looked stiff through the whole thing and it was overly choreographed with lame wirefighting. Yeah, she dispatched a lot of guys (who inexplicably only attacked one at a time...) and he was supposed to make it look effortless, but it just felt awkward to watch it and her attacks didn't seem to have any real brutality to them--like the guards were just playing along with some pretty girl slap fighting them. After watching Hit Girl pull off the same sort of scene in Kick Ass on 3 seperate occasions, BW's big moment just looked limp by comparison.
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"thought the movie was just as fun and enjoyable as the first one. The CGI effects have really gotten to the point where I can't tell them apart from the real stuff."I thought the movie was just as crap and generic as the fantastic four. The scripts have really gotten to the point where I can't tell them apart from the any other sub par action film from the last 30 years.
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...HES PUTS HIMSELF IN THE MOVIE!
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it wasn't good, but not horrible either.
The story was just boring, nothing really awesome about it.
Munn needs to do less talking and show more body. Didn't buy Scarlet as a badass. Avenger crap was waste of time. Sam Rockwell is always great, even in this lame movie. -
In your face Gene!
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in the IM comic universe.So giving a bit of more screen time for a well-known character is to please the IM comic fans,and it has nothing to do with Favreu ego,who after all he is a good actor in opposition to that selfish Night Shalamayan who has turned out to lead his own movies.jesus.
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A more aptly comparisión would be with Batman Forever... only Batman Forever is way better, at least had a script!
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100 times better than IM2!
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Word up.
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They are two completely different movies, people. Jesus. One is a fun and, let's be honest, male-wish-fulfillment movie (IM2, if you couldn't tell). TDK is dark, pyschological, and all about building tension and dragging the main character through the absolute worst shit imaginable. I don't know about anybody else, but I usually feel absolutely depressed at the end of TDK, and it's not just regarding Heath's passing. I mean, the Joker wins! Yeah, he gets caught, blah blah blah, but he wins. And don't get me wrong, I love TDK. But I also have the cognitive ability to look at two things and say one of these is an apple and the other is an orange. IM2 rocked; yes, it's not as good as the first one overall, but did some things better. Even with TDK, there were things I definitely liked better in Batman Begins. I loved all of these films, and all for different reasons.
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Had to be said.
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DC fans are like Mets fans: they generally come in 2nd to the Yanks. Don't get me wrong, I like the Mets and just because I'm more of a Marvel fan, I can also think DC is great. But most of the haters are DC fanatics, starved for more films and put down Marvel because they have nothing better to do. Suggestion: masturbate less, talk to girls more.
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Please keep it up. Your starting to make me laugh more and more each post. To the point where I'm questioning if your joking or not.
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Iron Man 2 is crap. And yeah, Batman Forever is better than Iron Man 2. That's how much crappy Iron Man 2 is.
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and his huge fatso hogan part in IM2 was him feeding his ego. simple as that.
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makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X
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you have to wait so long for MIB 3D. Biiiiiitch Pleeeeease.
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I like Marvel, and I enjoy the movies they have given us this last years, but DC always will be remember as the ones who set the standar... not once, nor twice... three times! Fist with Superman, then with the fist Batman and then with TDK. For a long while, Marvel had that funny rubber eared Captain America, the crappy Lungdren Punisher, and, of course, the Corman Fantastic Four... DC always first and better...
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SO true ...... keep talking the truth.
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May 07, 2010 7:31:49 PM CDT
IRON MAN did the Peter Parker dance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by james4543
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How could you not like this film?? What were you expecting?
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It makes me laugh though.
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you couldn't have said it any better
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Harry said "Go Nuts"
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Because that is the sequel to end all sequels.
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We were expecting the movie to match the hype it gathered. Or try to match TDK in terms of a quality comic book movie.
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"The military and other weapons companies could easily make the robot suits that Tony Stark had. The only things that it appears they couldn't make were the miniaturized arc reactor and the energy cannons Tony's Iron Man had.
Now, how in the world did Rhodes steal the Mark II? Where did he get the arc reactor to power it? That's a major plot hole. No one else could make it but Whiplash and Tony. Tony crushed the one Whiplash had at the race track. It just doesn't make sense. " -
The Burton Batman was so contrived and so obviously done on a movie set that it seemed almost unreal, a decent movie at best. Superman 1 had moments but the flying with Lois in the sky scene, horrible. Both BB and TDK are good. However Marvel's characters have always been more interesting and set in the real world unlike DC with Gotham and Metropolis. By the time Avengers comes out Marvel's well laid out plan to roll out movies will make the haphazard DC plan look laughable.
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"Oh i have one. Why didn't the black widow turn off all those fighter robots when she was able to hack into the system and turn off Don Cheadle's suit? "
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Why is there no AICN front page story about it? This makes me sad.
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It would've been Blizzard, Beetle, Whiplash as the unimportant henchmen they should be and Rourke would've been the Crimson Dynamo. What if people steal Iron Man tech and people think Iron Man is a baddie and the government makes War Machine to stop it? There's a billion ways to make a better fucking movie.
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How would you know what a realistic fight scene is. These are comic book movies and I suppose if you like your fight scenes all shot so darkly that you can barely tell what is going on and on top of that being absolutely cut so quickly that you have no sense of what is going on than more power to you. The laser move is just one of the many things to love in the sequencs but bottom line IM just rules Batman as a superhero anyway. TDK and DC fanboys get over yourselves your jealously over IM is patently obvious and sad.
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if Favreu is not willing to bring Mandarin as the villain.
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Not great, not horrible, not much. Mickey Rourke makes a good villain and his involvement is explained sufficiently well. Gweneth Paltrow is wasted. Very forced relationship scene near the end. The Stark character is much more egotistical this time, although I know you're asking how that can be. Cheadle does a good job with what he is given, and Rockwell plays his part as the smarmy competitor to perfection. The first half of the movie plods with exposition, exposition, exposition and the second half moves much too fast with action sequences that you will have to pause on the DVD to figure out what happened. Not as bad as Transformers 2 but in the same ballpark. Lot's of Avengers build up and stay for the scene after the credits.
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Kinda means the same thing as "Have Fun". Which you sir,are clearly not capable of. Go somewhere and discuss who was the best joker or something you miserable peck. Ooooh SHIT! Burned with a Willow reference!
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Awhile back marvel went nuts with people being able to pick up the hammer after Beta Ray Bill did
It was across a few years but there were quite a few
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Downey, Paltrow and Rockwell were good but the rest of the movie was a waste of talent, money and SPFX. Sorry but it just wasn't very good; more Spiderman 3 than Godfather II.
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Let iron man get a few more movies in, disappoint everyone that likes it, reboot, then do a sequel to the reboot. THEN we can compare properly.
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apart from the Chihuahua he has.He insisted to put it in the movie as part of his character and an inside joke,Favreau at first didnt want to but since Marvel didnt (Rourke had asked the studio about that),Favreu finally accepted to put the bird in the movie.
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Well, I dont like the first Batman either, but you cannot deny the huge impact it had in his time, the same for Superman and TDK. No Marvel film has impacted the general audiencies the same way DC films have... They got nice reviews, lots of money, but, at the end of the day, Superman will be always in the list as one of the best fantasy movies ever, TDK will always be the movie that almost got a nomination for an Oscar, and IM2 will pass to history at the same height thatn Transformers or 2012... And not to derail your train here... but you know that "rule of the third one is the bad" with comicbook movies? we got confirmation that the Iron Man franchise got ahead of the rule one movie. If this is an indication of where the Marvel Movie Universe is going, I dont think I want to be there to watch it blow
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dam edit button
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scene with Paltrow and RDJ where she kisses the IM helmet and throws it out of the back of the plane in the trailer was replaced with one of RDJ/IM running out of the back of the plane instead? That was such a cool moment. Wished it was in the final cut.
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That's right. Which means The Avengers will suck big time. I rather have stand alone movies that are awesome like TDK and Batman Begins, than a series of connected crap movies.
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The whole point in the 3rd act of the first movie,was that the Stark Enterprise scientists could replicate the IM armor but could not replicate the miniature arc reactor power source which was essential for the armor to operate.Thats why Stane stole it from Stark.As i said it seems to me that the movie had great ideas from the director and the cast but the last minute script writer that Marvel brought in the project,somehow inserted new ideas which fucked up the final story of the film.
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Is when North Korea and the other crappy countries are making Iron Man Tech, but oh no Tony they suck. Iron Man go and fuck those robots up. Shit. Why show it to me in a cheesy video, it was funny. But It could've been badass.
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rapes Chihuahuas.
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Over Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, and the 60's Batman movie put together.
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For one scene serving Tony papers? She's a recognizable enough actress that I thought she'd be in it more once she was shown on screen....there was no need to cast that throwaway role on a "known" actor...coulda been any actor/actress.
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Terrible shit actress. Really fucking bad.
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That was me pretending to be James4543.
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which was weird.
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had better lines than Mickey Rourke did.
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It is obvious that you and I are not going to see eye to eye, which is fine, but I do feel that both you and Gene went into IM2 looking to not like it to prop up DC and TDK. I don't think Superman is even close to being one of the best fantasy movies ever. If we are doing that comparison than LOTR owns all of these movies. So let's stick to superhero movies as it is obvious that Marvel has a much better plan and control over how they are going to roll their movies out than DC does and quite frakly much more interesting heroes to make movies about. DC is so vanilla and bland compared to Marvel. Whether it comes down to movies, videogames or comics Marvel owns DC and in a big way. The fact that IM trashed Batman Begins at the box office is a testament to better film making as Batman is an iconic hero and before IM the movie IM was not. I also not what you are thinking what about TDK it ruled the box office, while true it was the sequel to BB while IM was the first movie in a series.
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But on Iron Man 2, Favs should've considered that and really raised the bar. Since they're both sequels.
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Amen. Preach it, brother.
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You are obviously a Marvel hater so why are you even on a talkback about a Marvel movie. It is obvious that you have no intention of bringing any objectivity to this forum as you are TDK apologist to the core. Saying a movie will suck before it even comes out is indicative of a pre-dsiposed opinion, which is proof positive of my earlier contention that you went into IM2 looking not to like it, which is really a sad way to spend ones life. Dude look for things to like and quit being a hater, you will be a happier person.
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Both are superhero movies. And an example which is the better one. TDK sets the standards for superhero movies now. Iron Man and Iron Man 2 is way off the standards, its laughable. Besides, has any Marvel movie got an Academy Award win? I don't think so.
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Thanks for the support TDK fanboys are exhausting, irritating and lacking in anything close to objectivity. I am enjoying your retorts as well my man, keep it up!
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If you notice in the final scene with Nick Fury and Tony Stark where Fury reads him his evaluation, there's a breaking news story about an attack at Culver University on one of the monitors. If you remember correctly, Culver University is where Bruce Banner and Betty Ross worked and where Bruce returned to in order to get a copy of his research before Ross and his boys ambushed him. So, timeline-wise the middle of the Incredible Hulk film occurs concurrently to the end of Iron Man 2. Make of that what you will.
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shh..its ok. Its ok to be in denial about obvious things. Crying about it is not gonna help. There, go take a nap and it'll all be ok.
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We will never be treated the way you were with that one Gene_Eric. I can tell those wounds are still open. Get over it sir.
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It was more of a crime drama with a guy dressed up to look like a bat. By the way enjoyed TDK but while Ledger was good I don't think hew ould have won anything except for his tragic and untimely death. Playing an over the top character is always easier than playing a more toned character.
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Try Corman's FF4, Albert Pyun's Captain America, The Punisher movies, Ghost Rider. Yeah, Marvel movies has been a bastion of success.
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That just tells me that Marvel and the screenwriters gave more thought to trying to set-up the Avengers movie than they did telling a compelling Iron Man story in this sorry excuse for a sequel.
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Middle section drags badly. RDJ is amazing - he pulls off the nearly impossible: Tony Stark is a giant asshole, and we love him for it. All of the actors do a fine job, and ease us over the bumpy script beats. Bottom line: WORTH SEEING (keep your expectations in check.)
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Way worse than anything you mentioned. Even The Flash TV show.
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Whereas my posts are well reasoned, articulate and objective your posts have no validity due to your absolute lack of objectivity, which disqualifies your opinion as completly irrelevant. Do me a favor the next movie you see go into it with an open mind instead of an axe to grind and you will find it much more entertaining. Why did you even spend money to watch IM2 when you had already decided to hate it before you even went? That is just crazy.
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Im not a Marvel hater, quite the opposite, I have thousands of comicbooks, both Marvel and DC, I never went to see IM2 with TDK in my mind, the only way in which it could remotely be in my mind was because I wanted it to be way better than IM, as TDK was way better that BB, just that, and I think its a fair expectation for a sequel, and Im sorry to say that the movie didnt deliver, its weak, is like a dumbed down version of IM1, with no danger, no intensity, no real arc for Tony, and with dull action. And DC has nothing to do with that. What are you gonna do if next year's Thor is a failure? blame it on Green Lantern?
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Didn't say I disagreed with you. Just answering Nub's question.
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May 07, 2010 8:18:07 PM CDT
"Justice League: Crisis On Two Earths" Was Pretty Great
by media messiah
You should all rent it, it is sort of a tribute to "The Watchmen". Think if they, the Watchmen, lived in a mirror world to that of the Justice League, and were criminals, like the Sopranos, just with super powers, and the Justice League had to take them down. It is really smart, and beautifully made, I'd love to see if made into a live action movie!!!
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Iron Man 2 sucks and nothing you can say can change it. Thor will be garbage, so will Cap and the Avengers movie
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I don't agree with his overall assessment of IM2 movie but I respect his opinion because he is being objective. Other TDK fans could learn a lesson from this.
Also DKL you are right for any movie but especially a sequel you have to keep your expecatations in control. The problem these days is that we know when the movie is in production and devour all the information we get about the movie a full two years before it even comes out and so we get over hyped for the movie. In some ways more information about a movie before you see it is not a good thing. -
An angry Gene Eric buying his ticket, then slumping down in his chair, and laughing like Butt-Head. "Huh-huh, this movie is gonna suck" I can already tell from the previews that The Dark Knight is better". Then James comes in and says "Yeah. Heh-heh." Then they spend the rest of the movie trying to look at the girl in front of them's tits.
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I didn't leave the theater pumped as I did with the first. There where some great moments but the middle seemed to lag some. They definitely needed another action sequence to break things up. There wasn't really a sense of mounting tension or narrative progression. Most of all, I wish that Terrance Howard hadn't been replaced. Cheadle is a good actor but I think Howard could have brought a more interesting dynamic to the interaction between Rodey and Stark. I think Devin at CHUD put it best when he said "[Cheadle] doesn't have that louche, slightly naughty rapport with Downey that Howard did. When Howard and Downey did a scene together in the first Iron Man you felt like you were watching two guys who connected on a lot of levels, one of which was a mutual appreciation for getting lapdances. That feeling isn't in Cheadle; he's just slightly too straight and stolid and good to be fully believable as Tony's best friend. Terence Howard has taken a ride on the Stark jet to Tijuana while Don Cheadle politely begs out of such an expedition."
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What coding do you use to make paragraphs in the comments?
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Awww, man... don't knock The Flash TV show! That was my childhood, and at that time, just having a comic book show on TV was a win.
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TDK had dogs chewing Bale's professional ass.
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Iron Man 2: Revenge of the Fallen Dead Man's Chest.
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This is my last response to you as your narrow minded opinons sadden me. Your last post just validates everything that I have said about you as you have already decided to dislike three movies based on nothing more than spite. Open your mind and you might find yourself enjoying those movies and even if they are good it won't take anything away from TDK. Good luck with looking at life more positively I wish you the best with that.
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Take this same shit and stretch it out a bit more.
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Was better than B&R and Superman Returns. That isn't really saying much, but I'll give you that.
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You can't take brutal honesty about movies and cool stuff, don't come here. Go surrender your movie geek cred out of the door
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Looks fuking nuts. Get that shit posted in hd please!!!!
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I am not sure where you get the idea that I am blaming anyone. I loved IM2, thought it was a blast and am looking forward to Thor, Cap and Avengers movies. I will base every film on its own merits and while I loved IM2 there are things that could have been done better same for every movie. I'm not quite sure what you were expecting out of IM2 but I'm sorry it didn't live up to your expectations. For me it was great and will be seeing it again several more times. Although I do prefer Marvel over DC I want every superhero movie to be good and I hope that DC can get its act together and get more movies out there. I hope GL is good and look forward to seeing it.
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Its great that DC had to hire the same dudes who wrote Batman movies to write the new Superman movies, TWICE. First Burton, now C.N. At least C.N. will deliver. Maybe you'll finally get a good Superman movie to jerk off to along with your Heath Ledger poster.
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Hey man, just because you're a DC hater and get a movie every couple of years don't be jealous or hateful. You sound like a guy that's only sucked on one tit: his mom's. Try other chicks, man. It's terrific.
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eman111 speaks the truth. I would like to see Gene Eric's time machine, since he already knows the next three Marvel movies are going to suck. If that's the case, the next Batman movie could suck, too. Nolan is not some grand golden god... he could fuck it up. I hope he doesn't, because I love those films and him as a director, but anything's possible when studio execs get involved and actors get pissy (Bale is notorious). I'm an actor, and have seen many amazing projects get derailed somewhere along the line...
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was worth it just for the awesome Danny Eflman theme song, back when Elfman still had the magic. And, yeah, that show was a big part of my childhood too - even if it only lasted, what, two seasons at most. Gotta love Mark Hamil as the Trickster.
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http://twitter.com/aintitfatnews
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Off to dinner with my girlfriend hope you guys have a good one. Enjoyed the debate and will be back later on tonight. Oh and IM2 rocks!!!!!!
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LOLtobots, troll out!
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I want all superhero movies to be great, regardless whether they come from Marvel or DC. Batman is my all-time favorite character, but that doesn't mean I don't have room for Spidey, Shell-head, or Cap. This "TDK vs. whatever" thing is for children.
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A voice of reason in a sea of insanity. Love your screen name as well, are you as mischevious as your namesake, lol. I bet you loved the after credits on IM2. Gotta go.
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You can't even dog on marvel fans properly. Bringing up movies that weren't even released n' shit. Pfft. PFFFFFFT.
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have been expunged from the multiverse. I checked with Uatu, and it's totally cool.
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I agree 100 percent. True Rhodes ahs read all the papers on Stark's armor, but he didn't have a cell power source, so how did he charge up the suit and fly around in under 10 seconds?
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Fair enough Loki. Fair enough.
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I'd say it wasn't quite as satisfying as part 1 or DK. I do not compare Dk and Im as movies, but as entertainment expriances. There was some kick ass action to be sure. Scarjo wasn't present much, and whiplash was more ...standoffish for most of the show. It was pretty fun overall.
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RT has this one at 73% and average rating of 6.4, number 1 was at 93% and average of 7.6. Absolutely spot on for me, especially the average rating. The acting for the most part was top notch, RDJ, Rourke and Rockwell all very good, though starting to expect from those 3.Not sure whether it was the story/script or editing or both, but for me the first half didn't hold together well. Wasn't a mess, or badly done (see Spiderman 3) though.As most other people have said you needed at least another Iron Man action scene. The other action scenes were pretty good and at times really good, but at times did seem to lack a bit of intensity (compare against the jet fighter scene in IM1)Yes Scarlet is hot, great eye candy, and her action sequence was funAvengers stuff was ok, and maybe those parts will work better, when all the movies are made and it all hangs together.In summary fun, but not sure I want to see a number 3.
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in the movie,in case you didnt notice.thats why he survived after the car kept crashing his legs.he had artificial legs below his knees.
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deserves to die.
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Suck it.
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brought my 5 year old son (go ahead, go ahead).....and he loved it too. Seeing the scenes with Rourke (in Monaco) play out on the big screen was just the right amount eye-pounding. Hilarious comment above re: Tim Meadows. Ladies Man / Silver Suit.
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Wrong. Remember when they removed his shoes later on? He was just on his knees when they carried him off on the racetrack.
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Point - Marvel.
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It continuously amazes me that some people can't seem to rap their heads around the concept that having a different opinion on movies/tv does in no way reflect another person's intelligence. Anyone making that claim is making THEM SELF seem stupid.
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I'm sure in those six months Tony let his buddy take one of his spares out for a ride, thus explaining the extra reactor.
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I noticed that while waiting for the Thor after-scene. That's where Fav's heart truly lies. Clubs and DJs and phazing mad breaks, yo.
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Yes, but it never really came out as a story point. It was just kind of there, and if people noticed the error the writers should have brought that point in better.
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Not bad, but not as great as the first one. To me, a transition movie to get to the Avengers, nothing else. Entertaining, enjoyable but ultimately not really anything you can't live without having seen it.
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Cap America - dont' have a lot of hope with Johnston in charge. The patriotic aspect of the character will be great in WW2, but in modern times going to be interesting. Thor - have confidence in Branaugh much much more, and as a standalone it may have a shot. Though will Hemsworth be up to the task. If done well this could hold up against the Superman movies (1 and 2), as Supes is the more natural comparrison for Thor. The key will be relating this super-powered individual to us mere mortals, the human aspect of Thor is obviously key to its success.Though can imagine people walking out of the cinema thinking "How the fuck will this guy work with Iron Man and Cap and this guy in the same team"Avengers - needs a great movie director (experienced and up for a huge challenge), but got a good to great TV one instead. However great the acting, action, story is, holding this together, the characters and the story is going to be the deciding factor to whether its a success or a mess. I still dont think Whedon is up to the taskSaying all that good to see Marvel having a go, DC with some very well known big characters, are really far behind and bit of a joke really
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its pretty clear when he is naked in the locker room when he is talking with Tony.jesus guys have you watched the cam version instead of watching it in the cinema?
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Who the fuck is this Cheadle guy?
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the rest of the world ... ha haw you gringos don't even realise how much you suck right now.
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Now your just being desperate, sir.
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I think. You know, sometimes in a craptacular script, the actor can save it. RDJ can save any type of trite lines that are thrown at him. He was SPECTACULAR 'Soapdish'. Bet you guys forgot about that one since he donned the suit but yeah, he did Comedies before this! Not to even mention the under-rated "Heart & Souls" because it would blow your mind! {Further: The stint on Ally McBeal TV show. Do you guys even remember how awesome *that* was??]
All they remember is him waking up in some otherfuckers house after tearing one off. Like you've never done anything of the like.
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I've watched that movie many times, thank you very much. No, the people don't blow each other up, but in the minds of the people of Gotham, Batman is a murdering villain to be hunted down. That's what I was referring to. In the world of the movie, it's more of a win for the Joker. Batman disgraced, Dent did get turned, and all that happens to him is getting sent to Arkham or some other such facility (not sure if Arkham's been totally reclaimed from the Narrows at that point in the films). And let's be honest, it's the Joker, he'll be incarcerated for all of what, a month? And then he escapes. To those of us who know everything by being outside the world of the movie, sure I can see it being more of a win for Batman. But I just get depressed at the situation he's left in. Still love the film... never said I didn't.
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How many IMAX theaters does Mexico have again?
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Good effects but pretty dull story.
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Terence was not hired for the sequel,not only because of salary dispute but also because Faverau was disappointed with his perfomance in the first movie.So the studio found a good reason to stop the negotiations with Terence and hire another,better and cheaper actor.and yeah Faverau was right,Terence sucked as Rhodney.
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They showed his feet, with tattoos when they removed his shoes.
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Scarlett Johanson was better than I thought she'd be. The hallway fight was great. LOVED the joke with Captain America's shield.
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What the fuck?!? His suit is why he survived. Kinda like Tony. Jeeze. You just reminded me of the guy that said "JUSTICE LEAGUE!" at the end of my showing.
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man, people really aren't paying attention. Tony LET Rhodes take the suit. it had it's own arc reactor in it (since it was a backup suit). later, Pepper says something to the effect of "don't those sits have redundancies so that this wouldn't happen?" and Tony just smiles. clearly, he could have activated something that allowed only him to use the suit, or whatever, to prevent Rhodes form taking it, but part of him WANTED him to take it. he was doubting himself, he was drunk and self-destructive and he THOUGHT HE WAS DYING.this is NOT the Dark Knight, guys. if the few moderately subtle pieces of the plot are going right past you, then man...I hope they make Bad Boys 3 for you sooner rather than later.
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In TDK Joker says that he is not a "schemer" and that he instead tries to show the schemers how pathetic their attempts to control the world are. But doesn't this suggest that The Joker does in fact scheme, if only to foil the schemes of the schemers? I would be interested in any insights from the brainy philosphers here.
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May 07, 2010 9:16:00 PM CDT
This sucker will destroy your house and write a book about it
by rplocke
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typical assumption from a stupid gringo. There are other countries in Latin America.
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A Robot army created by a pudgy tattooed mickey rourke in a couple of days. What? It's possible! The technology is ridiculous in this movie. Apparently all you have to do in a superhero movies to show incredible technology, run a montage of your enemy building something or our hero creating a new element. Then BAM! We get something amazingly ridiculous! Don't get me started on the CD effects. I mean the blurry effects. Everything goes by so fast. That you can't even wrap your mind around it. Either way, if you liked the first Iron Man. You'll like this bullshit. I could careless about Iron Man. I only saw it, because I got invited.
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It was about as good as an average comic book run. Those filler things they put out until they get the a real writer for the series. Lots of flash and bang but not much payoff.
So was Scarlett Black Widow or not? I didn't quite get that. She was wearing a SHIELD uniform and was never addressed as BW. Perhaps in another film or in Avengers I guess. What was with the, not sure what you would call them, but the blurring of her arms and legs during her fight. In a comic they would represent movement but since this is a moving picture it didn't quite make sense. It was kind of like watching 3D without the glasses. You all saw that right? It wasn't just in my head was it.
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I saw the double feature, which actually may have been a mistake; I think the 1st is just about perfect. The 2nd had it's flaws, but, overall, I was entertained and thought it was pretty fun. I do have to say, Whiplash getting slammed into a concrete wall 4x by a car and being fine, Rhodes "betraying" Tony after a SINGLE drunken night (c'mon), and the creation of a new element in about 5 minutes...was a little lame. Able to be overlooked, but lame. Sloppy writing. I had a hard time getting used to the "new" Rhodes for awhile - he needed to "beef up" a little more - but he did the job. And the War Machine armor (albeit created by Hammer in this rendition) was freaking awesome. And Black Widow was actually pretty good. Probably because she did little talking : ) But the hallway scene was cool (and apparently she trained a ton for that to do it). All in all, I'm glad I saw it. A whole lot better than Spider Man 3...ugh.
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May 07, 2010 9:19:33 PM CDT
How long did it take Mickey Rourke to build a robot army?
by orionsangels
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jesus christ...they show TATTOOS ON HIS FEET.where do people get this shit?
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When the security guys are pulling Whiplash away from the car race you can clearly see he has no legs. I saw that, but then I remembered the scene with the shoes so I couldn't remember if he really was an amputee.
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...and a TON better than Wolverine Origins. Freaking "special defects." What a waste.
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Not as good as the 1st. Don Cheedle(sp?) played Cheedle in an AF uniform as usual. I'm glad I can take my 6 year old son to see it unlike Transformers2. Saw the opening night Midnight showing and will be going back again Saturday evening with the family. Mickey Rourke? I think the last thing I liked him in was Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man.
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May 07, 2010 9:21:20 PM CDT
I don't care what shit hole your from. Answer the question -
by dutchrudder
I'll even rephrase it for you. How many IMAX theaters are in Latin America, a.k.a. Taco Country?
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mate wait for the better telecine version to be released.it will be clearer for you to watch it better.
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RPLocke, I totally saw that, too! I thought I was just imagining it.
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but me and my 9-yr. old son both agreed the first one was better (more action, better plot). And, unlike the Dark Knight, the plot wasn't moved along by incomprehensible dialogue.
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Yea, we saw that too! My son leaned over and was like "what happened to his legs????"
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I'm suggesting he had an extra reactor and suit all for him that he kept handy if they ever wanted to fly out to Vegas or something for the weekend. It's far more plausible than The Dude piloting Iron Monger in the first movie. Fill in the gaps yourself.
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adults sometimes so they can translate the hard words for you.
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maybe you should move out of your parent's house. Asshole.
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Iron Man does it. Black Widow does it.
I'm in.
Trinity did it in "Matrix."
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Maybe you should spend time with people who know "their" grammar.
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When you mention New Mexico and show the remote desert, it screams Hulk. Very few characters in the Marvel universe would leave Thor in a fresh hole and apparently out of commission.
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by saying that he is not crazy, is that he sees clearly the inherent unpredictability of reality while other people hold more tightly to an idea of control that is largely illusory, "crazy", and drawing an ontological difference between his "just doing things" and the Schemers' "planning" to bring about certain controlled ends. These, the Joker is compelled to foil by seeing through this illusion i.e. not being crazy in this sense, and not being a schemer in this sense.
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So does the Car Hole(or Garage for you high rollers).
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That would be very cool.
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When Stark shows up and talks to the General, where in the timeline does that fit in?
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Ivan didn't build the robot drones. Hammer already had those robots built. Hammer just needed an expert computer programmer because he wanted to outwit Stark.
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he just has his legs folded under him as they take him away. he is NOT an amputee. not only does he walk around normally before, during and after the monaco fight, he also walks out of the prison just fine, and then, later (here's where I think the real proof lies) THEY SHOW HIS GODDAMN FUCKING FEET WITH TATTOOS ON THEM! remember? when they took his shoes and his bird and all that?the car smashing him was NOT smashing his legs, it was smashing his torso, which was protected in part by his suit. he's also a strong fucking dude.please, let s not mention the word "amputee" (or "ambutee", if you're ominus) anymore.
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May 07, 2010 9:34:22 PM CDT
ominus, they also show him sitting in his cell in his tighties.
by subtitles_off
You can see he has legs.BUTYou are absolutely correct. When he is dragged away from Monaco, it looked like he missing his shins. It frustrated me, too.I'd look particularly for that moment if I had any interest to see it again.I don't.But I do want to hear an explanation.
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It clearly looked like he had no legs when he's being hauled off at Monaco.
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No worries, I just get a different vibe from the end, but I have to say my hopes for the third one are the same as yours.
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The shield agent basically tells Tony that Cap's shield, which is made of Adimantium could "do the trick" or something like that. Fury mentions that there is an element that can help, but Ademantum (I clearly do not care to find out how it is spelled) is classified and Fury knows the formula is hidden in the model. This also confirms that Fury is ageless like the ultimate universe. He was there with Cap and in the 60s. Very revealing film if you knew what to look for.
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Their legs don't trail behind their torso. Unless, of course their legs have been squashed to jelly by being repeatedly slammed by the bumper of a car.Usually, though, you wouldn't be walking around on them for months.I'll just chalk it up to more ridiculous Marvel science. Like super elements. And radioactive spiders. And four different mutations resulting from exposure to the same type of radiation.
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much less taco country - the only taco country is Mexico. Jesus, can't tell a continent from a country. The only shit hole is in your head.
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Lol! I know. My friend was like, "Why didn't the limo kill Whiplash?" And I was like, "Well, the reactor kept him alive?" It's so frustrating, lol.
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The robots weren't the main enemy of the movie, Tony Stark himself was. Plus it didn't end completely well. Yeah Tony pulled himself together in the end, but his actions cost him more than a consulting job on the Avengers.
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There should be somebody nicknamed ambutee, just sayin'.
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There should be somebody nicknamed ambutee, just sayin'.
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Yep, I was wondering too why he wasn't crushed by the limo. The power thingamajig didn't give him super powers - it only powered the whips.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that!
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was how War Hammer got introduced. I think Pepper could have convinced Tony to chill. No need to break out the extra suit.
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Yeah right Iron Man isn't going to be in the Avengers Film. Riight. While in the comics he loses his company to Hammer and becomes a homeless alcoholic, here he loses a spot in the avengers. Which story is better? His actions didn't cost him anything but an old piece of crap suit, nobody died.
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so, let's just get this straight, this is what you're saying...he has his "plastic feet", he's walking around with them in Russia, on the speedway, etc. the director decides not to show this, explain it, or even HINT at it, in ANY way. OK fine, that's retarded, but let's move on.during the fight with Tony, his legs are fine. he's smashed into the wall repeatedly (in the torso, not the legs) and his legs are fine. iron man whips his ass, flings him on the ground, takes his power source. his legs are still fine (in the overhead shot, legs are still there, no problem) then SOMEHOW, the movement of TWO POLICEMEN PICKING HIM UP, cause his amazing plastic legs to just drop off his body? fine, that is retarded.oh, but let's continue this nonsense, shall we? now, he walked out of the prison just fine, so that means someone went back to the racetrack, picked up his amazing, yet suddenly fragile, plastic legs/feet, and DELIVERED THEM TO HIM IN HIS PRISON CELL.then, for the rest of the movie, his disappearing/reappearing plastic gams WHICH YOU CLAIM HE TATOOED?!?!?! are not seen, mentioned, or hinted at, in ANY WAY.now, do you think all of this is more likely than the idea that in ONE wide shot at Monaco, Rourke simply tucked his legs under himself as he was being dragged away?seriously? does anyone have the stones to still claim he has magic prosthetic legs?
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CRAP! The director of Iron Man totally ripped off Whiplash's legs.
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I know, but the movie makes it seem like he made them by himself, there's even a part where rourke takes the head off one of the robots and its basically just gears and junk lol. Even to make his own Iron Man suit. It would take years. This movie makes it seem like you just need a montage of building stuff and you get these amazing things. Silly movie!
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Iron Man 2 is a confusing mess lol
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You understand the question right? I'm guessing you didn't see this on an IMAX did you? Google IMAX theater. You know what Google is right?
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his feet are those fake yellowish that the amputees wear.and another thing.In the Monaco fights when Tony finally beats him down,his trousers are ripped and you can CLEARLY see that he has artificial legs and when the policemen come and drag him,his smashed legs fall off from him.next time wear glasses and pay attention.
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I just wish someone would have brought it up in the story like, "Oh, he's an ambutee" or something. But it goes by so fast I can see how people get confused.
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May 07, 2010 9:52:32 PM CDT
IM2 = Good, but not the spot on cracker jack of the first one.
by the reluctant austinite
I liked it. It was a good time at the movies, but just wasn't possible to capture that lightning in a bottle buzz the first film gave me that made want to watch it again and again. Part of that is just not being able to experience the joy of seeing Downey Jr. play Tony Stark for the first time again. The stuff that works is really great, like drunken Tony VS Rhodes at the birthday party or the Monaco fight scene (but we'd seen too much of that in clips and trailers already). Rourke is awesome, but so sympathetic you almost don't want him to lose, and I felt the final (most important) fight scene between Iron Man, War Machine and Whiplash was over too quick and seemed anticlimatic. It's a great looking film and good popular entertainment, and should be considered a good effort at following up a really great film, but doesn't pull a "Spider-Man 2" or an "Aliens" this time.
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come on man, seriously? it's called a character arc. Tony is cocky and unwilling to compromise or trust anyone but himself at the beginning of the movie. but as the story progresses, he begins to sense his own mortality, and worry that he's not strong enough (or invincible) to have the power of the suit on his own. do you think he really couldn't have stopped Rhodes from taking the suit?and I think he has more than one miniature arc reactor, I'm not following what you were saying about the other suit, but what I assumed was that it was merely an identical replica to his suit. or maybe just a slightly modified one, that had an arc reactor built into it so that someone besides Tony could wear it. maybe, you know, in case he ever thought Rhodes might need to help him, he could have made the suit for him.I don't think it's lazy writing at all in terms of Tony's motivation. perhaps the science behind it is vague, but come on, is the rest of this based in cold hard reality?
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just "learning" how to use the suit, on the fly, in a few minutes? Does everyone remember how long it took Tony to get the hang of it in the first movie?
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Who's to say he didn't modify one of the ones he had lying around? Despite their differences, they were friends, and like someone else said above, he was dying, who's to say he wouldn't pass the mantle over to Rhodey on conditions that it wouldn't fall into the militaries hands? And secondly, he didn't betray Stark at the senate hearings. Remember, he was taken of of context and tried to give his entire statement to the objection of Shandling.
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Inception.
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May 07, 2010 9:56:04 PM CDT
Movie made it pretty clear Rhodes didn't "steal" the suit
by guy who got a headache and accidentally
Tony was giving all his shit away remember? Made Pepper CEO, thought he was dying, etc. That's why he could "steal" it so easily. You could see him entering some password and it accepting him and it even showed Rhodes picture up there. He was probably planning on leaving his suits all to Rhodie anyway. Being best buddies with Tony, I can't believe he didn't let him run around in one those spare suits sometime, or at the least didn't try to fly some airforce prototype on his own. Who gives a fuck anyway.
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http://bit.ly/bOTR4lloot at it and weep you blind people.
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It's clear Tony let him go cause Tony trusted him, but the fact that Rhodes learns how to operate it in under a few hours is insane.
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...learned to operate it in a few hours.
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seriously...come on man. I've seen the movie in a nice bright theater, and I've seen it, ahem...in other ways...in fact, I'm looking at the scenes in question right now, and it is clear as day, kiddo.answer me this, if you are somehow correct, and he has fake legs, how did he get new ones after Monaco? (don't say Hammer, because he has legs in prison)and more importantly, PLEASE answer me this question: if he has prosthetic legs, WHY would the director or screenwriter not mention this to the audience? if it has NO bearing on the character, what is the point? this character was introduced, given a backstory, put on display, and then killed. done and done. why on Earth would there just be one quick shot which sort of maybe seemed to possibly show that he is missing part of his legs? seriously, I want you to answer that. or are you a brain "ambutee"?
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Cap sheild is made of Vibranium. I think it was a rumor that is was made of adamantium.
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Maybe it was a cut subplot that didn't make sense? Maybe he was an ambutee in the directors cut?
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The only certainty regarding the timing of the Incredible Hulk with Iron Man 2 is the news broadcast shown during the epilogue with Stark talking to Fury. During the scene, the news report about the Hulk's rampage on the college campus plays silently in the foreground.
So, the final clash between Abomination and the Hulk hasn't yet occurred.
So the second to last scene of Iron Man 2 occurs sometime after Hulk's rampage on the college campus. Based on the Incredible Hulk, it's not clear how much time passes between that rampage and the concluding battle between Abomination and the Hulk. It could take place long after the end of Iron Man 2. In Tony Stark's appearance at the end of IH he says, "We're putting a team together ..." but at the end of Iron Man 2 he has been excluded from the Avengers, only offered a consulting role. So some stuff happens after IM2 but before the coda of IH. -
Favs would have mentioned something about it. This isn't W.S. Anderson's Iron Man.
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that shot shows him with a full set of legs. the shinier parts ripping through at his knees match the rest of his suit perfectly, so all I gathered was that the suit had lower parts to it as well. at any rate, there is still absolutely no logical way he could have prosthetics back on, a few hours later in prison. nor is there ANY reason why this nonsense wouldn't be mentioned in the rest of the film.be careful, kid. you're going off into the deep end of the conspiracy theory wackos that thought Cloverfield was a big lion or some bullshit.face it, you're just seeing things. I agree, the shot where he's dragged away, because of the angle, his legs and the fact that he drags over a shoe that is already on the track, are suggestive. but just because you think you see something for a moment, doesn't mean that it exists in defiance of all logic or common sense.although, I'm not gathering that logic and common sense are your strong suits.
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I'd like to think that if a major character is an amputee, and it's taken out, they wouldn't leave in a wide shot of him being dragged on the track that shows him as an amputee (ambutee).it also still doesn't explain how he got new, perfectly functioning legs in prison, nor does it explain the shot of his ACTUAL FEET a bit later in the movie, complete with matching tattoos.seriously, omnibus is just delusional. it's the classic conspiracy theorist position of "I've discovered something that no one else knows!" it's an intoxicating feeling, and it convinces them to abandon all sense and logic, if it flies in the face of their flimsy theories.it's an old story in the talkbacks, I'm sorry to say.
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The Mandarin, obviously. But if they don't go with that... Fing Fang Foom, Ultimo, or the Crimson Dynamo!
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its even clearer when the video is playing.the white parts are artificial legs.you see how his right leg ,as you are looking at the picture,is twisted in the opposite direction? or do you think its normal the way its hanging there? come on now.and to answer the rest of your question: the movie is a mess thats why.
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I was bored to death with the story about Tony's ego. Rockwell's Hammer was stupid. BTW, don't superheroes save people from burning buildings and explosions? Why didn't Ironman help the public at the end of the movie? Really dumb movie. Might as well called a comedy, a bad one. It rated up there with Superman's Quest for Peace and Spiderman 3.
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Spider-man 3 teaser image's clouds.
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Fury went off to "deal with something" after he left Stark with his dad's stuff. I think he gave the super serum to Ross thinking it can stop HULK.
When we reconvene with Fury n Stark at the end, the university shit went down. So between end of Iron Man 2 and the end of TIH, THOR happens AND Captain America happens. thats my theory at least -
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http://yfrog.com/9gpicture2hap
this is a shot of Whiplash's feet, right after they take off his shoes. OK? there! are we done?
ominus, if you or anyone else is dumb enough, after SEEING A SHOT OF SOMEONE'S FEET, to still think they have no feet. well, may Oprah have mercy on your poor, pea-brained soul. -
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IRON MAN (STARK SELLS WEAPONS TO THE GOV AS WE SAW IN HULK)-->IRON MAN 2 (Visit from Fury. Left to deal with "something)--> HULK is found in South America. Super Serum given to Ross by Fury--> IRON MAN 2 ENDING (Fury n Stark are talking, HULK just destroyed university) THOR is found, CAPTAIN AMERICA is resurrected,---> Ending of Incredible Hulk --->Avengers
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http://bit.ly/b7l1Elunless ofc he is a midget in the film.
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in all honesty, I think this is better:
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Who didn't think "this is so stupid?" when Favreau had a genius moment driving onto the track so he could get the suit to Stark. That was not smart. Totally stupid my friend! And how can Whiplash whip a car going 150 MPH when he can't hit a man 20 feet from him who is actually standing still? Stupid Stupid Stupid!!!
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LOL that pic that you posted clearly shows that his legs are prosthetics.haha.
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honestly, I think this is better:
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...when he was talking to Roth about the serum? And are we going with the theory of the lightning storm being related to Thor, or the alternate opening of Hulk triggering a iceberg collapse unearthing Cap?
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Stark does seem more like a "consultant" or like he's just out to recruit people.
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Yea, I didn't think that was the smartest thing (just driving onto the track).
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a tip: dont decide to become film makers.you are clueless about entertainment flicks.
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http://twitter.com/aintitfatnews
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well done! Damn, I missed the university news in IM2. Shit.
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I want them to look properly reverential.
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Just trying to fit this in the timeline. Why was Tony building a Cap. America shield?
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Remember, the shield was in the first Iron Man too, but it was painted.
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I would like to see the material handled in a more adult manner, with more realistic action etc. but it's good for what it is. I never really got the feeling that Stark was an out of control drunk, or really even had a drinking problem for that matter. The CGI has no weight to it. However, the film is done well enough that it's good despite all those things.
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I am no Marvel historian, but just who the Hell is this character supposed to be in the Marvel universe?
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Who said anything about Captain America yet? For all they know, it was a piece of trash. It may set up that Stark reinforces Capt's NEW shield. Remember, WWII Cap has the regular shield, not the round one.
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Yep, they really don't get into the drinking problem too much. At one point Pepper says "have you been drinking?" and he responds "It's Chlorophyll (sp)" so it' suggested.
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trailer didn't match the movie. No "you complete me." Plus, I was thinking why the hell would he need to jump out of an airplane to land at the Expo event? That makes zero sense.
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I just chalk it up to sloppy filmmaking.
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Actually he did use the circular shield in Captain America Comics #2 in April of '41.
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Can you update the talkback so you can actually "reply" to posts?
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u have a pic? I hate comics like this... so many different origin stories and canons
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I want someone to give me a logical argument about why Tony Stark would need to jump out of an airplane to land at the Expo event. Please, try.
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...I am referring to the way that the people actually inside of the Iron Man suits would be reduced to bloody mash if they were subjected to the inertial forces that they are put through in the film. I know I am in the minority when I notice this kind of stuff, but it still bugs me.
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Cause hes fucking Iron Man. thats why. Done.
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lol. best answer evah.
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http://tinyurl.com/5fgwft
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http://tinyurl.com/22rpkzz
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..I had a problem with that.
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He wanted to impress the hot babes. Nuff said.
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Also he got the Cap shield from the stuff the SHIELD guys had, right? It wasn't his.
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ok. i stand corrected...but Nick Fury was also white and David Hasslehoff...so. *jumps out of a plane* SHOW ME THE MONEY!
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Then what about the shield in the first movie?
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He is Tony Fucking Stark. Why not jump out of a plane? Its based on a comic, about a guy that invents an Iron Suit, and fights crime. The real question is, why do so many assholes think way too deep into the reality of COMIC BOOK movies? Its fun when your not being serious, but c'mon.
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Didn't Stark industries help build the Cap Shield? I know I heard that somewhere.
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No, I'm not looking "too deep" into anything. It's just if you're going to be nit picky, then do it all or just shut the fuck up.
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Did the license plate have any significance? they held that shot for a good while till it cut away to him getting out the car. and dont say "Land of Enchantment" or whatever new mexicos famous for.
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then it's gonna be a LOOOOONG summer. I'm amazed at how little I reacted to the movie. It's 2 hours of people standing and waiting for stuff to happening, then a Deus Ex Machina showing up to get to the next plot point.
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I thought the same thing about the plate, but didn't get it.
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for damn near 10 years.
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Seriously? Good God, every other blog, etc. has it.
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If Tony Stark can invent a repulsor ray, he can come up with an inertial dampening field for his suit.
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What score? Hell, Djawadi's was more present/memorable. I find this to be a disturbing trend.
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The close up of the license plate in the post credits sequence helped establish the location as New Mexico.
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75% of them movie is people working in labs. Then it's Pepper and Tony arguing with nothing being revealed. What major things happen in this movie? Nothing. It's a holding pattern so Marvel can make some more cash before they can do The Avengers. X2 and Spidey 2 built towards something, but they also delivered as standalone movies.
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75% of them movie is people working in labs. Then it's Pepper and Tony arguing with nothing being revealed. What major things happen in this movie? Nothing. It's a holding pattern so Marvel can make some more cash before they can do The Avengers. X2 and Spidey 2 built towards something, but they also delivered as standalone movies.
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My wife had asked me during the film "If she can override the program controlling Rhodey's suit, why couldn't she override the drones?" I was stumped. Was this mentioned in the movie? If not, I feel that was kinda a HUGE plot hole...
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there's a shitload of imax theaters in Mexico ( taco country ). Ecuador, CostaRica, Colombia, Chile, Guatemala (countries in Latin America ) have IMAX as well. Sorry, dutch, you fucking lost your argument
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I think the drop out of the plane bit was Stark's snarky way of saying that the Government wanted Iron Man to work with the Miltary so this was kind of a back handed compliment way of doing that.
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to have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up. Hahahaha.
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NOT EVERY FUCKING PERFORMANCE AND EVERY GEEK MOVIE NEEDS TO BE "GENIUS" OR "GROUND BREAKING!" OR "EPIC"
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so basically he made the military use their money for the drop. Yea, makes sense.
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That's the key to OUR healthy marriage!
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post credits...I thought " Shit.. IS INDIANA JONES/CRYSTAL SKULL?!? "
Know what.. im just gonna say this.. just so all the nerds on here heads will explode.. after Indy broke out of Area 51...he dropped the Mjǫllnir.. WIN -
Can do anything an iron can....I just this movie..I loved it...I really have no idea what people are complaining about...it's was everything a good summer flick should be...in other words, FUN
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I think it was just a good faith backhanded compliment type gesture because it makes sense that later on he lets Rhodes "steal" the suit.
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Where you get Crepes, Sushi, Beer and Wine for what it costs to go to a cineplex and sit next to a fatass full of popcorn on his t-shirt here in the U.S.
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I think they're just starting to do it here. But its gonna be expensive as shit.
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I never cared about you enough to call it an argument. I guess I lost? Shucks. Hahaha. I just wanted to know if the worlds asshole had an IMAX. A shitload is not a number by the way. I'm still getting a feeling that you didn't get to go to the IMAX. Maybe someday...
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I had a good time and the kids loved it, nuff said.
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But this time, use proper sentence structure and punctuation, then maybe we'll understand what you're trying to say.
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Sign me the fuck up. Hahaha.
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I have nothing else to contribute.
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and off to see iron man 2 again.
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and maybe someday you won't be a sore loser.
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Mexico has one of the best cuisines in the world you idiot. They do sushi so well, Bourdain has given it props bitch. Crepes with Nutella taste good, here and eaten from your moms hairy gray haired vagina, trust me I've tried them. Stop being a racist ignorant.
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Sore about losing what, you raving psycho? Hahahaha Wow! What a delusional, ignorant, whore. Sorry, Google delusional,raving,and ignorant.
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There's crying babies everywhere, plus we don't have black people over there. JK
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...and what a way to kick it off! IRON MAN 2 is terrific! Another winner from Marvel. My ONLY gripe with the film is that John Debney's score isn't available on CD. I LOVED this movie! I only got to see KICK-ASS and THE LOSERS last Sunday...so this had been one damn good week for movies...for me anyhow! Let's hope the rest of this summer's pics can keep up the momentum that this one has set! Super-heroic action on a grand scale!!! Keep 'em coming Marvel!!!
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May 07, 2010 11:26:03 PM CDT
You sure you weren't paid by Marvel to write all this?
by rene_belloq_12inch_figure
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Companies like Guerilla Markering in hollywood send marketers to talkbacks with a variety of handles and tell them for every negative comment, post 3 positive comments.
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Haven't seen you here in a while...or is it just me?
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Next your going to tell me you can drink the water from the tap. I got nothing against Mexico. But I reserve the right to fuck with anyone that makes fun of "Gringos" for getting Iron Man a week late. Either mind your own buisness or read back a little before you shoot your mouth off and make yourself look like a cunt.
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I can't understand what they're crying about.
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"plus we don't have black people over there. JK"
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I liked all the individual elements of the movie, but assembled all together just came as... a pretty good "whole." Of course Downey Jr. and co. were all terrific and love his interplay with Paltrow. The climatic battle was fun, but the middle of the film meandered and seemed to be more about Stark trying to find a new power source than anything else... the movie eventually righted itself in the third act. So overall it was "pretty good," but not as good as the first movie.
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I've been occasionally posting, but it's usually just a side-comment and not really relevant to the thread as a whole.
Plus, there seems to be a lot of political debate going on this site right now, and I've learned to just stay out of it.
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was im2 released to foreign markets before domestic? anyway, it was a good film, although i didnt like that the black widow was simply an agent of shield
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They did mention something about how each group of drones was communicating in some different code/language... or something. So maybe that's why.
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why Black Widow couldn't hack the rest of the drones, I mean. Been several posts since you asked that by now, lol.
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May 07, 2010 11:46:41 PM CDT
SilentP, that's good enough for me!... Thanks!
by shut the fuck up donny
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Nothing that would come out of those transcripts would surprise me after all the shit I have heard about Tom Cruise, couple that with the insane antics of that Oprah show and you've got yourself one hot nutty mess.
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If it wasn't for his strawberries, Stark wouldn't have discovered his father's new element.
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When Hammer had the henchmen take off his shoes toward the end? They showed his feet and they weren't prosthetic...
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I really wanted to come on here a refute the critics after seeing it. But I'd have to agree that this movie was a drag. It had me yawning waiting for something to happen. The Russian and Hammer spend too much time talking about a fucking bird. Stark and Pepper's conversations were just annoying because they were always talking at the same time and I could not make out what they were saying. And by the time it gets to the action at the last 10 minutes I'm saying "this better be good after making me wait 90 minutes" and it was very underwhelming, it was a couple steps above the 3rd act of the original but that's not saying much. I expected CG that looked more crisp this time around, especially since they only had like two fight sequences. It seemed like they cut too many frames out of the animation (cutting costs?) but the machines fly around way too fast like bumble bees on acid. Favreau is a good director but he's not the best with action. I think Scarlett Johanson's fighting scenes were the most exciting parts of the movie. She stole the show. I won't be buying this one on DVD.
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He says the feet were plastic. That's right, TATTOOED plastic feet.
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Why?
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dont cry
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but really, what's wrong with good? Just don't expect too much and you'll like it..
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...was a reality? Please.
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Isn't that the same price Rene and VETEPALAPINGA charge for a BJ? You chicas sell DVDs too? Ay Caramba!
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dont cry
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The movie is alot of fun if you see it with a friend. You can talk at the boring bits, and geek out at the awesome fight bits. Now in my opinion, this movie was pretty much like Iron Man 1.2, they flow together really well if you watch the 1st before you see the second. Now this movie is not without flaw. Like no russian accent with Black Widow, fights too short, Spider-man 3 Venom mask problem. Why get in a big badass fight and reveal your face every 2 seconds? I would want to protect my head in a big robot fight. Cutting of Pepper Potts scene where Iron Man says you complete mean(plane scene in commercial) But there is fun to be had. And come on, what else has come out this year so far(except kick ass which is awesome)that has been good? Clash of the titans=shit, A shitmare on elm street(really Harry? A nightmare on elm street remake is freaky as fuck? freaky as fuck that hollywood allows all these shit movies and remakes to happen, but that movie...shit. I am fucking 15 years old and can tell a good movie and turd apart better then your old ass can. Either because I have better taste then you, or because your getting paid to like shit) Your safe bet this year so far is Iron Man 2, or kick ass which is still showing, I plan on seeing Iron Man 2 again, so who knows I'll either have fun or find more problems. Also stop comparing TDK and Iron Man, seriously this is what fucking babies do. "I hated Iron Man, it was nothing like a movie that come out for fucking ever ago" I LOVE Batman as much as the next guy, but Iron Man and Batman or two very diffrant things. Iron Man, fun, cool, not to much thinking. Batman, fun, dark,brooding, deep, lots of story. It all just comes down to what your into, everyone just needs to stop trying to shove what they like down everyones throats. Finally, this such and such movie talk back stuff is bullshit! This site is just purposely starting big huge stupid fights, just to hide the fact that they are to damn slow at getting news that every other site has. in hopes that while every one is to busy trying to compare Iron Man 2 to TDK, people wont notice the century old news and think its new.
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We both thought it was great! The action scenes were well managed. Monaco was great - could have been a little longer. The party fight was spectacular (and my favorite). The war at the Expo could have been a little tighter, but it was my son's favorite action sequence. As for the so-called down times, I enjoyed them. It's nice to see a little characterization and building of plot. Roarke was phenomenal, Downey was Downey and that's saying a lot. Rockwell was good, but I've seen him better. Scarlett is some fine eye candy and my son dug her fight scenes. All in all it was a good continuation in the series. Not a let down at all, but neither was it that much better than the first. Although I hated the entire Jeff Bridges fight scene at the end of the first.
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War Machine made this movie for me, oh geek heaven, oh geek bliss... Just replace the drones with aliens, predators or dragons, with blood and guts exploding everywhere... And with a BIG MEXI-CAN inside the armour...WAR MACHETE!!
Ahem, back to the subject.
I hated the main villain choice (whatta lame character in the comics. A ponytail? Boring), but Whipdude, the movie version, was great, at the end, a Medieval Tank with Electrical Whips of Mass Destruction. And thanks to Rourke's performance, a sympathetic villain to boot. I only couldn't understand why the ruskie choose the damn whips... Hard to master stuff, I tell ya, unless you are a circus dude or doctor Jonesy himself. Imagine playing with TWO at the same time. Maybe in the DVD deleted scenes they explain something...
Rockwell is my hero. Geek hero. Lunar, Zaphod, Galaxy Quest dude. Hammer was an old dude in comics, boring. The movie version rocks. Sam Rocks Well. Could watch a TV series with this guy. Week after week, trying doomed plan after plan to win over Tony Stark, played by the Desmond dude from Lost. Ahem. Back to the subject.
Samuel Jackson as Nick Fury. The Ultimate One-Eyed Super Cooooooool Cat. Mark Millar (and Bryan Hitch) did it. It's happening. Samuel is god. Great dialogue with great delivery. I dig the Classic Fury Cola(tm), but the Ultimates was da bomb. Now, where are the gadgets, the hover cars, the air carrier, all the good SHIELD shite... At least we got the Widow' SHIELD uniform. Marvel rocks, man.
Talking about the Widow. My fave comic version of her was the Klaus Janson/Jim Lee short-haired Widow. Was waiting for her solo movie, the David Hayter directed one. And wasn't too crazy about Scarlett. But she did alright, sexy as hell, dead serious gorgeous babe. Of course, her big fighting was edited to look way more cooler, but that's ok, I was pumped at the end. Natasha rulez. She is Russian but got no scene with the other Russian character. Ok, no reason for that, but, dunno, missed opportunity. Another deleted DVD scene maybe? Heh.
Paltrow as Potts. Love her, whatta elegant and beautiful creature, gracing us with her presence in a Marvel production. God bless Marvel. Her character had an ok arc. Her bitching was plotted, obviously. Tony loves her but can't tell. Kiss kiss bang bang at the great finale. Evil Drones that can't kill anybody and dies very fast. This is no Watchmen, sir. But, it's FUN. We want to see Nick and Nora make out at the end. With their best buddy, ASTA MACHINE, watching over them.
Favreau-Kato deserved the extra scenes, thank God Marvel for that. It's all about the characters, man.
Cheadle was ok, nice guy, but I was a fan of Howard. So sad for him when I remember his scene with Mark II: "Next time, baby". No next time baby for the Howards of this world, duck or no duck, heh.
And RDJ. His age was showing, but he OWNED again. Most sarcastic, funny and human movie version of a comic book character since... Thora Birch's Enid from Ghost World, maybe? Heh. Ok, his RDJrisms are showing again, but, that's ok. We love it, we pay for it, we demand it. In 2D. His movie'self-destruction arc is so much better than the Demon in the Bottle storyline from the comics (boring). His goofing around "hooooowwrlllll" scene at the birthday party was so damn funny and real. Embarrassingly real. Mixing his father in the pot was great too. In "Iron Man", Jeff Bridges was the big daddy figure who also was an evil prick. Tony always remembered his actual dad as an evil prick, but, in the end, he was an ok dude. Good for Tony. We like Tony.
Again. I saw the movie twice here in Brazil because of War Machine kicking ass and taking no names in 2D. But the rest of the movie was just like a good issue from my beloved Marvel Comics. Not super great, but good enough to wait for the next issues of the big event crossover, heh. Now. Bring the Hammer and the Shield next year.
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THis pg13 dying fight is also bullshit, who gives a fuck how many people died, its a superhero aimed towards kids too. So while all you sad lonely fucks are busy thinking about death, having death debates at hot topic and shit. Kids are thinking about living and simple stuff like that. I mean come on, the last movie I would want to bring a kid to is a fucking massacre. Now if you guys are so obsessed with death watch a war movie, fuck! I'll send you saving private ryan or something! All in all, stop complaining about stupid bullshit, just to complain. and keep talk back short if you have nothing relevant to say. just say "i hated it" or" i liked it" instead of whipping out the TDK card...
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THis pg13 dying fight is also bullshit, who gives a fuck how many people died, its a superhero aimed towards kids too. So while all you sad lonely fucks are busy thinking about death, having death debates at hot topic and shit. Kids are thinking about living and simple stuff like that. I mean come on, the last movie I would want to bring a kid to is a fucking massacre. Now if you guys are so obsessed with death watch a war movie, fuck! I'll send you saving private ryan or something! All in all, stop complaining about stupid bullshit, just to complain. and keep talk back short if you have nothing relevant to say. just say "i hated it" or" i liked it" instead of whipping out the TDK card...
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In an interview he said he was glad that they gave themselves room to grow on action after the first movie. So why didn't they?
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Because he put himself in the movie instead
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Sure, it's not a work of cinematic genius or ambition, but I don't think it's trying to be. It's just a fun summer movie with a small ounce of smarts, EXCELLENT character acting (basically the entire cast is fantastic) and a measured pace, unlike last Summer's Transformers 2.
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...is that this is pretty much it for the entire summer movie season this year. Maybe, Inception. But that's IT??
Just one movie that I was looking forward to and a possibly interesting mind bending thriller?
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Black Widow was kind of a waste though.
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if you write something as depressingly retarded as "peace of shit", then no one should listen to anything you say ever again.
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Yea, Black Widow was just kind of there....in the background...all silent then she would say somthing or punch somthing and your like "oh shit! how long you been here?"
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The only purpose she really served was to provide some dramatic tension between Stark and Pepper.
(SPOILER ALERT!!!)
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Really, man? You'd put Iron Man 2 up there with Last Crusade and Lethal Wapon 2? That's crazy talk to me. They may not even be the best movies in their respective franchises, but I know I'll be rewatching Lethal Weapon 2 and Last Crusade until the day I die. I can't say the same for Iron man 2 at all.
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is better then twighlight by a longshot. And you only bring TWATLIGHT to the table because you have nothing relevant to say. y ou compare a P.O.S vampire flick to a superhero movie.......that is what 3 year old do... come back when you can spell piece and have something smart to say
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Your really scraping the bottom of the barrel now James. Enough is enough.
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May 08, 2010 1:00:27 AM CDT
BillEmic, or you can watch raiders till the day of your death
by wookie_1995
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May 08, 2010 1:02:59 AM CDT
BTW you made fun of yourself with that peace of shit thing. look
by wookie_1995
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everyones entitled to an opinion i guess. some people love transformers 2. iron man 2 was the tits! heads and tails above part 1. i didnt mind the lack of action, it made those fight scenes all the more exciting and the energy in my theater was maxed out!
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She is just not a comic book actress.
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The reason for the comparison is that, like the two older movies from the Summers of 1989 (man, I feel old), it was the cast and character interplay that really made IM2 a blast for me.
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Very entertaining. Downey didn't disappoint. The quirky banter was very fresh and natural. Black Widow fight was great. The "Ex-Wife" missile was the funniest thing I've seen this year.
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Appropriate for Black Widow.
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May 08, 2010 1:22:46 AM CDT
"Justice League: Crisis On Two Earths" Was Pretty Great - LOL!
by the bicycle sharer
That was the most boring shit that I've just about ever seen! I downloaded the POS for free and it STILL took me several tries to make it through. One boring ass loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong fight after another. Swear to God, at one point, yet another interminable fight happened and my wife walked into the room and I was literally reading a fucking book. She said, "Aren't you watching this?" I said, "Fuck it's just another really long fight that I don't give a shit about. There'll be about three minutes of story after this then another long ass fight." I mean, fuck, for free I got this movie and still I'm bored off my ass! Didn't give a fuck about any of the characters or the story AT FUCKING ALL!Now, Justice League: New Frontier (or whatever the fuck it's called), that's a great effin' movie, but this Crisis shit. A-fuckin'-void it at all costs.
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You win some, you lose some, and sometimes it's a draw. Well, IM2 was a draw. Not a loser and definitely not a winner. Definitely worth a look, but not two.
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Gets bonus points for "His Girl Friday" reference. Anybody who draws attention to Rosalind Russell is "a-okay" in my book. Hubba-fuckin'-hubba!
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I like how all the movies are feeding into each other now. I like how they all feel like entries in a bigger universe. I love all the nods to Marvel fans. I also love that people who aren't Marvel fans don't get it and don't like it. Fuck them. Bring on "Iron Man 3"!
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I like how all the movies are feeding into each other now. I like how they all feel like entries in a bigger universe. I love all the nods to Marvel fans. I also love that people who aren't Marvel fans don't get it and don't like it. Fuck them. Bring on "Iron Man 3"!
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I have this thing called a sense of humor. I'm not too cool to laugh.
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...so I am seeing Im2 again just to spite the haters. Mjolnir is coming...
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May 08, 2010 1:48:10 AM CDT
RDJ looks like he's doing a Bill Murray impersonation
by slimbutnotreally
The first one was great, but the second one sucked.. Downey was bad...I don't know what happened, but he was a lot better in the first. He's basically playing Billy Murray in this movie. I guess this is as close to Ghostbusters 3 as we'll get.
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I think that everything bad (and "good") about this movie has been said already... However, I just want to state my place in the "it sucked" crowd. I always try to give Harry the benefit of the doubt, but this is like... well, the final time. I now read this as entertainment and not information (I know... pretty redundant... sue me).
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granted it's been two years since I've seen the first one, but although Iron Man 2 was a worthy sequel I thought it wasn't as good as the first, for one thing I thought the plot was a bit too simple (basically Tony gets sick, then he invents something that makes him get better, then he goes and kicks some ass, the end), but I loved Sam Rockwell
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She wasn't a waste! She did help Stark find hack into Whiplash's stuff, so she wasn't totally useless. Plus she itemized Stark's stuff. That takes guts.
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They spent a bit more time developing character and story in this one with the Avengers in mind. Great action, great humor and who'd have thought that ScarJo would have one of the best fight scenes in any superhero movie?
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Scarlett is too American to pass as a Russian... actually, maybe they should've got a Russian?
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No seriously, she's wearing his glove, shooting a repusor ray or something... Did i blink and miss that?
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First of all I d like to say that I m a big fan of the 1st one but the second one is pure garbage.This movie had so many scens that made no fuckin sense.Ok here we go !!!
-If u wanna kill Tony,why not just do it in normal settings which means when he s nowhere near the suit(whole monaco scene is pointless)
-1st fight and action scene is 2 min long and that s not considerin the fact that iron man could have just flown away and blasted whiplash ass from away
-So apparently anyone can just enter a secret code at that door and steal a suit he! So Rhodes master the suit in 3 second tops (I Know he s in the army and all but come on.....)Stark took forever in the first one almost dying.
-Fuck John Favreau and his massive head
-Ensuing fight is the best scene of the film but 2 min long again (It was believable for Tony to get his ass kicked since he was drunk)
-Scarlett is pointless if hot in the movie
-The third and final action scene is messy and sucked balls.So After flyin around for 10 min followed by robots and gettin people killed ,Iron man decides he needs to get away from the expo so people dont get hurt(too fuckin late)
-Second fight against whiplash sucks balls(If u felt let down in the first movie,get ready ti slit yout wrist on that one)
-So whiplash decides to go out predator style,but of course Tony knows where to find Pepper in all this mess to save her ,eventhough he had no idea she had stayed behind and where (yeah apprently Pepper can order cops around too and tell em what to do)
So basically this film doesn t feel as more expensive than the 1st plus action scenes happen at night( hoo clunky CGI when we can t afford u !!)
So Overall there are just a handfull of enjoyable moments and the reveiew on this site are guilty of balllicking way too much cause this movies is crap compared to what I was expectin after readin the reviews here .It wasnt worth the 12 bucks I forked out.Do yourselves a favor and go rent the first one again cause this one is FAIL !!!! -
It was a decent movie. I give it a C+.
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She played the part really well. Nothing she did took me out of the movie.
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He could have done that role. Where was the ACDC? Great ending.
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Badass! Great to see him in this.
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"I might even get laid."
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Vanko didn't know Stark had armor on hand, so no, the Monaco scene isn't pointless. Also, given the size of the Mark V armor (briefcase suit) I doubt it even had flight capabilities, thus preventing a assault from the air. And like I mentioned before, Rhodey could have very well piloted one of the suits during the six month gap between films.
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May 08, 2010 3:14:16 AM CDT
You know, it's late and considering the full title of this talkb
by anything but tangerines
OK - You want nuts, MOTHERFUCKERS! Try some of THESE! AAAAARRRGH! I SWEAR TO GOD I'm gonna eat my own FUCKING NIPPLES!!! The kids next door! THE KIDS NEXT DOOOOOR!!! FUCK-EM!!!! I'm SICK of their GOD DAMN NIGHT CLUB BAKYARD! jeeeeezus TITTYFUCKING!!! Why the HELL should I watch Hot Tub Time Machine when all I have to do is walk from my back door to my garage and hear the FUCKING BEEJEES blasting out of a spa filled with 20+ eastern european faggots eating hashkamaskaWHATEVERTHEFUCK it is that smells like a giant fetid DIAPER over there. GGGGGOOOOOOD DAMMIT! What do you think? Should I use the Captain Barbossa sword, the Hattori Hanzo, or maybe a Force FX for blunt force trauma and possible permanent chemical burns??? I'VE GOT IT!!! I'll just nuke the whole fucking neighborhood full of degenerate assholes! See you in the news!!!
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in this version...just becomes self destructive, because he thinks he is gonna diehe doesnt die, so he no longer is self destructiveif you are gonna do demon in a bottle in one movie, that was the way to do it
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I thought it was fantastic. Everything the first one was and more. Better acting, better action, better characterization, pretty much better everything except for the score. I left the film tremendously satisfied.
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May 08, 2010 3:20:36 AM CDT
Scar Jo's legendary ASs Vs Hit Girl's Toddler Tits
by jeangrey_x23_lesbosex
Who would you pick?
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Better than any of the Spiderman movies and your beloved X-2
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It was fun. Rockwell was great. Rourke was great. ScarJo was delicious. What an ass. I want to bang it over the hood of the R8 Spyder.
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Fucking please, not even close.
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It s made pretty obvious in the mvie that this is his first time piloting the suit.Tony tells him Iron man doesnt need a sidekick ,also he tells him he snot worthy of the suit.Plus when Rhodes flys up in the crack oft he ceilin,u can see that he is not stable thus implying that he doesnt really master the suit cause it s his first time .Don t go lookin for answers when tey clearly are not on the film just to redeem it
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What a complete load of fucking shit that was! I love the first movie but this sucked balls! Boring, shit action, nonsensical storyline, there was nothing about it I liked except for Scarlett's ass. All told it's by far the biggest fucking letdown since Spiderman 3.... and I don't say that lightly...
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1) Vanko was not trying to kill Tony. He was trying to show the world that the arc reactor technology had been successfully cloned by criminals. 2) That was obviously Tony's light-weight emergency suit, with fewer capabilities than the full weight version. 3) Stark and Rhodey have clearly been working together in the six months between movies. The movie straight out tells you that it is impossible to steal a suit because only people who have been given clearance by Tony can even activate one, and Tony could easily have locked down the suit and prevented Rhodey from stealing it. This was his way of giving the suit to Rhodey without looking like he had given in. 4) Black Widow is there to flesh out the world and make it feel more like a Marvel universe rather than each movie happening in a vacuum. Also, Nick Fury needed a way to keep an eye on Stark. She was basically the babysitter. 5) If Tony (and Jarvis) can freaking hack into military satellites on the fly, they can sure as shit keep track of where Pepper is at all times. I wouldn't be surprised if Jarvis was constantly monitoring the location of all of Tony's key personnel. As for the action, that is a matter of taste and I won't try to change your mind there.
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No one's done it yet.
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May 08, 2010 3:33:55 AM CDT
DK>>Spidey2>Batman begins>X-2>Iron man 1>Spidey 1>IM 2>spidey3>W
by fanou
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It was almost like they'd forgotten to put some action in it cos they'd spent so much time just fucking talking! All this big build up about these stupid looking drones that Whiplash spends half the movie making and the two guys wipe the floor with them in about 30 seconds! And yet another baddie in a big fucking Iron Man-esque suit! Ugh...
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As hard as I've been on other aspects of the movie, I'm not 100% sure this is a major plot hole or not. It seems like it would be simple enough to clip in a spare arc reactor onto the Mk II suit (like Iron Monger and Whiplash/Crimson Dynamo both did), and since Tony's life depends on wearing an arc reactor at all times, you'd think he'd keep one or two extras around just in case after he nearly died without one in the first IM. So that much isn't a problem to me.
I also don't think that Rhodes knowing how to use the suit was that big of a deal, because I'm assuming that Stark trained him some between the last IM movie, and that Rhodes' test pilot background would help. Remember that Tony was able to run the Mks II and III armor just fine once he had the complete suit together. So that one can be excused, too.
Now... the only thing about this is that Tony would have had to retrofit the Mk II armor to connect to an arc reactor that was located outside of the body. The chestpiece should have bulged out slightly, as the arc reactor it was hooking up to now wasn't recessed into Tony's chest.
The issue that still bugs me... Tony Stark does not RUN on the arc reactor. Without the armor, the arc reactor is just a power source for an electromagnet imbedded in Tony's chest to keep inoperable shrapnel away from his heart. Tony shouldn't be THAT dependent upon the arc reactor for survival as there are countless alternative ways to power an electromagnet (like, say... a car battery). He also shouldn't be feeling a super intense burst of energy from a newer, more powerful arc reactor as the damn thing is supposed to be sending its charge into Tony Stark. At least, not in the movie continuity, unless Tony was stupid and somehow changed his own biology in the 6 months between movies so that he now runs off something that emits toxic waste into his bloodstream. -
...or he's not worthy, doesn't mean he wasn't given a test flight. It's a totally different deal.
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As for Favreau, Woody Allen can give himself all the screen time he wants cos he's Woody Fucking Allen; you, buddy, are no Woody Allen... Egotacular!
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That Tony would be driving his own racecar in Monoco before Tony actually decided on the spur of the moment to do it? Remember how the driver's name on the TV graphic changes from (whoever) to "Tony Stark" on the TV screen and everyone is in shock that he's actually out there on the track? Before this happened, Whiplash was already lurking around with a "Pit Crew" set of coveralls on, waiting. Then he just pops out onto the track and wreaks havoc, then attacks Tony. That part made for cool action, but the internal logic behind it made no sense. Unless this was supposed to be Whiplash's grand plan to draw Tony Stark/Iron Man out ANYWAY, knowing that Tony would be there to save the day one way or the other.
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that stark built the suit for rhodes because he thought he was dying and figured he needed the replacement. They kind of hinted that the suit was built just for him specifically when they said that stark generally had security protection against just anyone using it...I think they were talking in the donut shop.
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I thought that was kind of shown in the original IM. Tony tried to learn to fly with just the repulsors strapped to his hands and feet and it's awkward and horrible, so he designs a suit that will respond to his subconscious commands with panels that double as various baffles, flight stabilizers, and rudders. Remember that in his first test flight in the Mk II armor he takes off and is zooming around with ease until it freezes up. I'd think an experienced pilot like Rhodes would have an easier time grasping the basics there.
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Whiplash knew he'd be there. When Stark tried to one up Hammer by actually participating, the plan was changed.
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I took that to mean that Tony gave Rhodes unofficial permission to take the suit and use it. He COULD have stepped in at any time and turned it off, but because it was his buddy and he knew he was in the right, he didn't.
Rhodes also had a passcode to Tony's secret lab and knew how to put the suit on, so I took all of that to mean that he knew how to do this. -
you're probably right...maybe I read into it too much...I just figured if he was dying..he would try to leave it in good hand...much like handing the company to pepper
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He knew Stark was attending the race, but not participating. He was just at the race to start shit under Tony's nose to make him look bad and to show the world that Stark didn't have an exclusive hold on the arc reactor tech. He adjusted his plan on the fly when he realized Tony would actually be racing.
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fucking ruled. yeah, I'm drunk, so waht? Loved that fuckin movie.
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When it is full of problems that plague the comic book movies ppl hate.
The script WAS too full. They had to rush the chronology of events to a point where it was unrealistically timed and cost the universe alot of it's credibility. They relied on Downey Jr to carry the film and it didn't work.
There's not enough 'new' in this film. This and the first are basically one long movie or one long repeat. Still love them both, but the second seems to be seen through rose coloured glasses from the guys here, Drew at HitFix and many other online 'cool news' critics. It's like it's got so many things right: Good story, good director, good acting etc that it CAN'T be a "bad" movie. And it's not. But it's not the best and not nearly as good as the first.
I thought it was too bland. At no point did I feel like ANYONE was in danger. How many times does Whiplash have to swipe at 2 people standing the distance of 1 car bonnet from him in order to hit them? Considering he hit 2 Formula 1 racing cars travelling at flying speeds, he still couldn't hit Penny and Co sitting in a still vehicle right in front of him. Sense of danger for any good guys instantly removed. There was also a serious lack of action. 3 scenes at most? Monaco, Iron Man vs Rhodey and the end. They were well staged, but lacked the impact and dynamism of the first movie. When IronMan hits his jets in the first, we are there with him. It's brilliant and gives a sense of speed, danger, agility and height. Here for the majority of the time it's a yellow streak against a city full of yellow lights! And the final battle... how many bullets, missiles, robots on a path of destruction and blown up Audi's have to be set off before we see someone ACTUALLY get hurt???? Scarlett's ass kicking entrance to the Hammer HQ looked less realistic than the bluebird on old mates shoulder in Song of the South. And then the stories pacing. Just so rushed and everything happening in such a short time just pulled me right out of the film. Now, I liked it still. It's a good film and up there in comic book movir-verse. But I am sick of people championing this and ignoring the fact that it's got things in it that are seen in some of the worst comic movies out there as well. That is all. -
The thing people complained about the MOST was that the bad guy (Iron Monger) got Darth Mauled... Well, wait til you see how long our final badguy lasts in this. Don't blink.. you might miss it.
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I thought Pepper got bashed by Iron Man or something..? Waited the whole film for that.
And having IM jump out of the plane fully suited instead of chasing his Pepper-kissed helmet makes sense - he does use it for navigation etc.
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Iron Man being drunk and dancing??? One of the hardest to digest scenes in recent memory. It's on par with Spiderman dancing as well. Lesson Learnt world: SUPERHEROES MUST NOT DANCE TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY EVER AGAIN!!!!!! EVER!!!! So so lame and not funny and not pitiful. Simply hard to watch.
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Iron Man 1 and Kick Ass were both better.
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Downey owns this character, Rourke was great, Rockwell great, Scarlett marvel to look at (Reynolds you motherfucker!), Nick Fury TERRIBLE - jackson has as much screen presence power here as he did in star wars which is NONE + his costume staright from bad comic book movies + his fat face! AND THE FATTEST FACE ON THE EARTH - Favrou, his face should get "30 years to life" in Uzbekistan Prison for beeing SO FUCKING FAT! They should give us more Scarlett and less Favrou as Happy Fat Face Bitch! Action so so until the end when it was good but Rourke should go longer and with a bigger bang! Good movie but any mentioning of The Dark Night both in terms of upcoming financial outcome or artistic values next to this are A BIG NO GO!
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to be honest...it took me longer to read your post than I spent thinking about anything in that movie...lol...I just take it at face value...and that was good enough for me. In the "it's just a silly movie" frame of mind...it was great fun...I'm glad you liked it too :)
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YOU TALKBACKERS DESERVE THIS PIECE OF SHIT MOVIE FOR FAT VIRGIN GEEKS
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IronMan 2 gave a lite glimpse of what could have been...Rene_Belloq_12inch_Figure gave an "on" point review of the film. Absolutely no positive build-up I think we're going back to the future on this one. Where the first one was awesome the second..Eeh..and the third will be the money shot.. i dunno? but thats what it felt like to me..I do however agree with Harry, All I could look at was indeed Scarelet!!!!!!!! Oh Boy!!!if the theater was empty?? OMG!!!!i bet Favero got a visit from the hard-on fairy when she was in the back seat
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1.How did he get pass security bringing the whip suit to Monaco.
2. How did he get to keep his long hair in prison?
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cant wait. i love acdc.
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May 08, 2010 5:50:39 AM CDT
Scarjo was due to star in a film called Napoleon and betsy..
by emeraldboy
she left the production is to be replaced by Emma Watson. here is the reason why scarjo left...
Johansson left the cast recently due to concerns about her plausibility in a role demanding youth and immaturity, according to the Hollywood Reporter.
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A real dull stretch in the middle, and a brief, generic-sequel ending (more baddie suit/bots). Seen worse.
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May 08, 2010 6:04:42 AM CDT
KICK-ASS had more heart & soul than any movie this year!
by orionsangels
It slowly builds and develops it's characters and story and takes you on an emotional rollercoaster. It made me for the first time think about wanting to be a dad. It just really tugged at my heart strings.
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IM2 has better acting, better story, cooler tech...I am going to see it again just to spite the haters. What a fun movie!
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Why are people impressed by the Iron Man suit? Half the time its a blur on screen.
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Good, the din of the audience has it right for once.
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IM2 the new Spidey 3?!?! 'Tis worse than I feared.
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May 08, 2010 6:47:40 AM CDT
IndustryKiller! - What? How did you get that general cosensus?
by david cloverfield
General consensus =/= the opinions you agree with. This is actually the most divisive film in a while. Awesome-Okay-Shit - you can find all of these opinions above in spades. I've liked it myself, but then agian, I haven't called a film shit since I've seen Gamer (maybe The Reader). If a film doesn't actively piss me off, it's okay in my book.
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This outta be great! 9/11 was an inside job infowars.com
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It's wierd to me that when watching a movie, you don't try to use your imagination to fill in something unexplained, but widen it into an outrageous plot hole. It made perfect sense to me that Rhodney got some lessons. That fact that he could use the suit told you that fact. "HEY, REMEMBER WHEN YOU TAUGHT ME HOW TO USE THE SUIT." - that's not good storytelling people. you may be used to it, but it's not. Hell, they even spelled out Tony wanted him to TAKE the suit, without giving it to him. He has built a reactor inside it. He gave Rhodney the password. He was obviously trained. Why do you need an "okay, it's not a plothole" confirmation? If you can easily imagine a way the story makes more sense, and nothing contradicts it than go with it, instad of bitching in fury. Then again, I work in avertising, and according to many I'm constantly overestimating the audiance's intelligence. Please, don't prove the fuckers right.
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It's been awesome reading what everyone has to say about Iron Man 2. Here's my thing. It was trying way to hard right from the opening scene. Scarlet's acting was horrible, and Don cheadle did NOT replace terrence howard very well at all. Mickey rourke was okay considering what he was given. Effects were good but there were so many missed opportunities that shouldn't have been missed whatssoever (Expamples) When they showed the crazy new whip that WHiplash had created towards the end (wasted) the big finally when they were in the dome and it took both Iron Man & war machine to take down whip lash Everyone in the theatre was expecting the entire dome to just break and the glass to shatter (Nothing well i think 2 panels of glass broke).. Sam Rockwell was okay not great... Samuel L Jackson as usual was the parts that made you get excited for more.. And the relationship between Pepper & Stark by far has the most chemistry of any of the characters interacting on screen.. This WILL NOT break any records opening weekend and word of mouth is going to be this "Definately ambitious but no where near as good as the first one" NO WHERE NEAR AS GOOD,, BUT OKay & I Saw it on IMAX so it should have been even more impressive.. it wasn't
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Don't look a gift horse in the mouth
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...getting really sick of people not understanding the difference. You can have a lot of fun at a crappy movie, provided you understand that fun does not equal quality film-making. It equals entertaining film making, and that is not the same thing as "good."
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Gary Fuckin Schandler had more screen time
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May 08, 2010 7:48:44 AM CDT
It was Awesome! People who don't like this movie are commies
by dirk_the_amoeba
I loved every frame! Yeah, I know people can have differing opinions, but geez, this movie was fucking awesome!
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I know most of you tweens weren't alive to remember this, but it wasn't that long ago that movies like this couldn't get made for two big reasons. Number one, the special effects just weren't ready yet. Number two, actors, directors and writers who were worth anything avoided projects like this like the plague. Comic book movies FINALLY now have all those elements going for them. If you don't like this type of movie, just keep watching Merchant-Ivory films and shut the fuck up. Being gay is not a crime. People will salute you for your honesty. Just don't bash something this awesome because your pimply, malformed hands didn't create it. Get some perspective dipshits.
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Were so contrived. Rouke, Pepper & Faveru on the track unrealistic. They would have all been hit by cars. dumb
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Get 'em where it hurts! You go bro! Nobody realizes what they have until it's taken away, and I remember when we didn't have these types of movies at all. Then the summer of '77 came along and things began to change for the better. Except of course that it not only made going to the movies much more fun and exciting, but opened the doorway wide for all these fucking whiners!
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That, everyone can agree on.
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Popcorn flick with some brains and far more humor than the genre usually delivers.
Took some risks by NOT simply amping up the action and letting the story suffer - Kudoes for that.
Downey still rules, Johannsen better than expected. I got the feeling that Rockwell was holding back, and wisely played his role of a second-rate Stark by being unable to upstage Downey.
Very good CG during the lab scenes - better than the action sequences, which is important. This movie was more about Stark's brains and tactical skills than it was about simply blowing shit up, and I admire it for that. -
I liked it, but was disappointed. It just dragged on after the Monaco sequence. But it's the sort of movie thats growing on me & may consider seeing it again. All these little moments draw me back in. The acting was fantastic, everyone was comitted to their characters, to sum it up, a big scale blockbuster movie with heart is a rare thing.
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Iron Man 1 = 9/10... Iron Man 2 = 6.5/10.
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First off, allow me to say that modern audiences are SPOILED by today's special/visual/cgi effects. If the effects and action have not reached a high-point in modern cinema and there's more talking than expected, disappointment is felt. And that is a division that I see between younger and older audiences. Personally, I feel that superhero flicks could be released yearly, as opposed to a monthly comic book. (The studios hear that ca-ching of the cash register.) As an example of that possibility, "IRON MAN 2" is an extension of the original (as opposed to part 2 in an on-going series of comic books), and plays much better when considered as such. People are looking for story-bookends, a movie that stands completely by itself. This isn't THAT...and I'm actually HAPPY that it isn't, as MORE will come. And as to the effects, they are solid (you can't knock them) and they advance the story. Do we need to see Tony Stark buy strawberries? (Someone asked in a talkback.) "Yes, you do, if you want a story." my wife says, in response. It shows that Tony cares (for Ms.Potts) in his own selfish way, remembering that there was something special about strawberries, though not remembering WHY supports the character we know. (She is allergic to strawberries.) Very good movie. Go see it...and see it again. I will.
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Like it has been said here before, it is a good, fun movie. Wish there was more action. The last battle against the drones was awesome. But the final battle vs Whiplash was pretty lame. It was over WAAAAAY to quickly. It was building...and then, bam, it was over. Scarlet was great. There was a scene where she comes on-screen, talks to someone, and then the camera sort of focuses on Tony and you're supposed to be following him. I literally had to shake my head and take my eyes off of her and realize that she was just supposed to be a background character and I was missing Tony's dialogue. Anyway, only mildly disappointed simply because I think it could have been more. My love for the 1st movie may have hurt my enjoyment of this one. The Dark Knight, X2 and Spider-Man 2 have left people expecting comic book sequels to improve on the original. I would give it an 8/10. Good, not great.
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f that! so BW's psych profile's the excuse to not have RDJ a major player in Avengers???? They can always have a cgi Iron Man, like through most of IM2.
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Rourke was fantastic.
Almost everything else was good.
They even managed to make Paltrow sexy.
It wasn't as streamlined and perfectly balanced as the original tho.
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& everyone should worship at its feet simply cos it exists? That's a sack of dumb. It's fantastic that these movies have talent & high production values & modern effects etc... I'm not gonna sit & drool& clap my hands at the pretty colours if the script/story aren't interesting. Jeez.
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I don't get it. I know we have to go with the premise of the comics and just have a good time BUT you would think that after building the mini arc reactor while in captivity in the Middle East that when Tony got back to the States he would have hired the best team of doctors in the world to get that piece of shrapnel out of his chest with microsurgery. Also, doesn't the arc reactor in his chest power the Iron Man suit? If I'm not mistaken there is no power source in the suit itself so then War Machine (Rhodey) should not have been able to steal the Mark II suit. This is one of the reasons that Tony says "The suit and I are one." It's because he himself powers all the suits. They can't function independently of him. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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that a hot dog and a pepsi cost me over 5 fucking pound!!!! other than that i loved the film and cant wait to see it again!!!
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I can see the 'amputee' theory having legs.
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...and they could have had S.H.I.E.L.D. agents come out of hiding at the race track...and spun that action like James Cameron. Agents would have slowed Whiplash's attack on Stark, resulting in death and building the suspense and excitement to more lengthy fight. Add an extension to the final fight and you have yourself a more satisfied audience. Check, please! :-D
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To back up the 'amputee' theory.
1/ If you've seen the film you know that when Rourke is dragged away you clearly see he has no legs. (photos have been published in this thread also). Now it's quite possible that an insert shot once existed showing the prosthetic's being knocked off when the car repeatedly rammed him.
2/ Because it's an FX heavy scene it's likely that the Monaco stuff was the first thing Mickey Rourke shot - thus giving post production enough time to complete the fx.
3/ It makes plot sense that Ivan Vanko is an amputee. Why? An extra reason for his bitterness, and an extra reason for him to construct a poweer suit.
4/ It's possible that soon after starting down the road of making Ivan an amputee, Favreau or the Studio balked and thought it would be politically incorrect and might offend disabled people - and thus made an 11th hour decision to change it.
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http://bit.ly/b7l1El
Above is the amputee moment in Monaco.
5/ Sam Rockwell's character threatens Ivan by saying he'll "take his shoes." Anyone puzzled over this? Not a threat i've ever heard before. But in the pic it seems if he were an amputee then it would be at the shin, and his prosthetic's would essentially be 'a shoe'.
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Loved it.
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Cheadle did a good job, hell I'm pleased with almost everyone save for Paltrow. Her charcter just had nothing to do and seemed to be in the way most of the time.
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when they picked him up off the track i remember thinking he (whiplash) looked distorted and his legs had been crushed. very strange.
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I really don't see what was wrong with Jackson's performance. I'm not sure what or how he should have performed in the role. People love to through that "sucked" line around for the sake of being able to.Then again this is the same site where that snooze fest Where the Wildthings are got all the fake praise. The movie was solid and had all the good elements there. Better then that overhyped Dark Night. But then again direct no wrong Nolan was on board, so it gets a pass.
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he should get him on the horn and ask him about the amputee thing.
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It didn't exactly blow my mind like Spider-Man 2 or The Dark Knight, but it was pretty good fun.
I think the trouble with both IM films is that they seem to skip the middle portion of the story. They're both over far too quickly and there just isn't any real character development or even time to get to know the characters.
For example, I don't know why they paid for Scarlett Johansson when she's barely in it and plays a mono-syllabic character. Any old bimbo would have done the job.
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there was a point in the scene when Hammer tells to his goons to take off Vanko's shoes.that scene was weird,Hammer wanted to intimidate Vanko by taking off his shoes and taking his pillow??as i said the whole movie is a mess because they rushed to make it without even having a proper script from the start.
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I thought it was good not great, 6/7 out of 10 movie. However its interesting reading the critical comments, some of them I had thought about others that I really didn't pick up on.Its not a bad movie, but as usual the truth lies somewhere between what the really critical guys are saying and what Harry says
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Ominus, I wouldn't exactly call the movie a mess, but from a plot perspective it's certainly 'messy' it'd be hard to argue against that.
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Miyamoto, Harry is away with the fairies these days. It's a shame because I like this site for the tb's but I haven't trusted his reviews for a long time.
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May 08, 2010 10:56:57 AM CDT
Favourite movie release in 2010 (so far) - Kick Ass for me
by miyamoto_musashi
Kick Ass would be an 8 out of 10 movie for me, Shutter Island number 2. Alice and Clash were both disappointing. Yet to see Green Zone and Iron Man 2 was honestly a little disappointing.For 2010 movies looking forward to seeing ; Inception (number 1 movie am excited about, Toy Story 3, and TronFor a bit fun and after a few beers; A-Team, Expendables and Predators
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Harry's reviews are amusing as a joke now, they are transparently very poor/bought reviewsThe tbs here are very entertainingThe other reviewers occasionally come out with something decentHerc is like Harry in regards to a few properties, i.e. anything by Whedon. "Joss Whedon's pile of shit on an old newspaper, is a masterpiece, a must see"
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Iron Man 2 was awesome! It was defiantly better than the first, we got more Iron Man and War Machine finally showed up. The cross between Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo was wicked to see at the end. Scarlett Johannson was fun to see as she ran down the hallway, and she was mega hot!!
It was a funny, action packed summer film that helped set up the next Marvel franchise. All you talk backers on here who said the movie sucked have to have some kind of pre existing problem. Stop going into the movie ready to pick out flaws and just go in, sit down and just have fun, that's why movies exist, they are simply there to entertain. Get off your high horse and recognize a good summer movie when you see one. -
better action, better villains, nuff said.
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But, it was not as good as the original. That is how damn good the original was. The story in Iron Man 2 was not as tight and slick as the original. I believe another action scene in the middle of the movie couldve helped the pacing of the film. In addition, I couldve done without the Black Widow in the movie. It seemed her character was put in as ode to Iron Man characters than it being vital to the plot. Scarlett was a bit to drab for my taste as well. I dont know if it was just the writing or her acting. I think Emily Blount wouldve spiced it up. I did enjoy the action scene with her though. Jon Favreau inserting more of his character is magic as well. Another small gripe is how short the Whiplash scene is in the end. I thought it was too easy. Rourke was a badass. All in all a good time at the movies and nice hints of the impending Avengers film
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May 08, 2010 11:38:37 AM CDT
Ironman had to run, because the drones had to chase him......
by thedannerdaliel
I liked the film. More than the first one actually. Had a good time watching it,and I don´t care to nitpick plots and arks, and all that other lame shit . Im also very glad they didn´t try converting it to 3-D
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that didn't show up in the film? Like Pepper tossing his helmet out of the plane and he flies after it? Or a drunk Tony letting a bimbo use his repulsor at the party?That being said, Iron Man 2 is a great sequel, and an incredibly fun movie. Iron Man 3, however, needs to have him fight someone besides another version of Iron Man.
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I thought it was fun, entertaining and awesome. The acting was stellar all around and the action(when it happened) was amazing. I must say that my fav. character had to be Sam Rockwells "Justin Hammer". He stole the show. It caused me more of a dilema when picking my favorite scene. At the top of the list was Scarlett Jo changing in the car and kicking ass. That was just HOT! But Rockwell in the stark expo coming out and dancing, that was priceless. That almost stole the show alone. From a film standpoint "Iron Man" was much much better than "Iron Man 2". But from a comic book standpoint it was incredible. Did everyone see ALL the little easter eggs hidden the hinted at the future "Avengers" movie. "The Incredible Hulk" clips were a nice touch and "Thor" after the credits was SWEET! I'd give it a 4 out 5 stars.
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so i am not sure why there was talk of records. Geez, I can't staqnd using this site. you've got some virus or ferocious cookies on this or something that slows my keyboard waaaaay down. I tape for half a minute before the letters appear. fix please
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here is a movie that didnt want to reach the top of the mountain, as far as sequels go, this aint Empire strikes back or TDK or even Spider man 2, this is instead a steady expansion to the first iron man movie.
heres my review:
first the bad:
---- Yeah Iron man is back! but now hes all sad! coz hes dying and all and man thats a real bummer: as a consequence he feels the need to stop caring now, which is understandable; he goes back to his old ways and then some! great right? no. coz he not only gets one Dues Ex Machina to solve that problem but TWO!!! and it had nothing to do with the main plot, the bad guys didnt even try to exploit it as you would expect.
another problem are the plethora of punchlines in the movie,all the dialogue is saturated with witty one liners, its funny actually but if they wanted a sequel that dealt with deep issues shouldn't they have toned down the comedy?
something that is unique about this movie, is that as a sequel it doesnt offer much action, in fact only the beginning and end where you see metal on metal violence. fine i dig that, coz you want to focus on the character stuff but no what happened instead, is that they focused on the funny stuff. hence the plethora of jokes, good jokes though.
The villain sucks monkey balls, he seems like an origin story villain and not a "sequel villain". not only that but the villain even though wants vengeance he doesnt seem to care that much for taking revenge, hes just like "whatever if life offers lemons make sweet revenge lemonade, but i rather get drunk and watch The Real Housewives of Chernobyl". hes basically boring and hes probably a weak character for a reason, like to force focus on the hereos.
the actions scenes arent spectacular, you would think they would blow our minds now that they have experience making iron man action but nah, its not that great although some scenes were great. the action scenes in the end felt cheap at times mainly because it only had a bunch of droids chasing iron man in the night sky, and you could barely spot them, only the thrusters are showing at night and most of the shots were zoomed out seeing the action from far away. its not that impressive for a final action sequence. and then the whole evil plot of sending droids to kill iron man is weak as shit, like something out of a cartoon episode.
why are the Avengers being introduced here? i have no idea. Nick Fury telling iron man they need him then in the end hes like nah we changed our minds. wtf?
Scarlett Johanson aka black widow, was a huge mistake bringing her for this movie. her dull boring look was just that, really Scarlett Johanson? really? for a movie like this? and she had zero chemistry with RDJ. plus i dont get why lots of people are infatuated with her, she looks odd like a pumpkin face or something, she doesnt even have a stick up her ass, because that wouldve at least been interesting, but she is more like frat house bored to death same as the villain. maybe they should form a boredom alliance since they both seem so bored. P.S her ass looks too big in this one, the pretty suit was ruined by her kangaroo body.
Rhodes, played by don cheadle this time, while played beautifully, there is indeed a betrayal scene that offers a lot of tension between the two friends, that did desperately need the old actor who played Rhodes. that way the betrayal would feel real and wouldve had more of an impact. yet we also see RDJ not giving a shit about Rhodes betraying him, like he understood what Rhodes did was necessary, but shit man that was lost opportunity for some tension between them, i thought this movie wanted to focus on the characters?
heres the good:
---RDJ is funny as hell in this one no surprise there, he even pees in his suit HOW COOL IS THAT?!!!
--- WAR MACHINE IS KICKASS!!! he looks cool and is like "step outta the way bitches!!!" and he knows it. Don Cheadle has that soft humor the blends perfectly with RDJ's.
----Happy Hogan is funny as hell too, lots of funny bits that make him likable and essential to the plot. Jon Favreau is an awesome actor and director, and i feel i got my money's worth when i see his film direction with him on screen at the same time.
----- Justin Hammer was a good surprise, Sam Rockwell aced it man, hes like an al pacino this guy, makes each role kick ass. this guy shouldve been the villain instead IMO. he wants to be like tony stark, so goes to great length at achieving that, and man the guy is adorable, ya i said it, dont get me wrong, hes bad ass mothafucker, but in the pencil-pusher kinda sense. wish we had more of him. hes also dynamic villain,hes not totally evil he just wants what he wants badly enough that he was willing to compromise whatever principles he had, he even graciously agreed to get arrested. btw, Laughed my ass off when he did that dance!
---- those droid killing robot soldiers looked SICK!!!! there was a bad ass scene when they confront iron man and war machine on land and begin fighting, that was the one completely awesome action scene in the whole movie! especially the part where iron man and war machine close their helmets at the same time.
---- the movie does a great job at making us think about the dilemmas iron man and other characters are facing, we get to see the point of view from all the characters. what Rhodes did was understandable given how irresponsible iron man was, even the senators had reason to suspect tony stark. how can the world depend on a buffoon like that? one that could easily degenerate into God know what! the iron man suit in the hands of the military could be a solution no matter how wrong it seems to be. tony stark is fearful what might happen if he let the government have control of this tech, not that the government is bad in fact the air force look honorable in this movie but the implications could sprout disasters. Hammer is one. then we have Hammer who wants to be in the game and sees it fair that he gets iron mans tech. i could go on. we feel sympathy for all the characters no matter how bad they seem to be or how misguided they become. its fucking fantastic.
in conclusion this movie, ill recommend but its not a must see. however given that there isnt much this summer then you absolutely gotta see it not for the action, not for Scarlett johanson, but for the intriguing comic-book style character drama and the funny moments. -
May 08, 2010 12:20:09 PM CDT
Blade started the 3 point landing and now everybody doing it!
by hollywoodhellraiser
BTW, since the rumour said Howard was let go because of his performance, does that mean Scarlett a goner too?Because if you think ScarJo and Cheadle acting was a par above Howard than you are sucking Favreau and Marvel cocks!
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Who installed the Iron Man assemble machine in the Stark Expo, shouldn't be a secret ? Is seems so easy for Ivan to control all those drones from a single terminal, it's laughable. So many plot holes. Clearly written for kiddies. Cheadle donning War Machine should be a dramatic moment, instead... meh. Fun movie but should have been so much better. It felt rushed.
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Seriously. Why make the damn thing into a joke is beyond me. There are enough jokes in the movie.
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I'm happy I didn't waste my money on this borefest! I like RDJ but it felt like he was carrying this movie alone andit was too much for the guy!
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Comparisons to the Dark Knight are useless. That movie was a depressed teens dream of misery, boring and grim to a lot of people. Iron Man (Iron Men?) have fun, wit and color in them. JMHO.
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I enjoyed the movie but couldn't believe that there was so little action in it. There should've been a big fight scene to open the film (or at least pop up in the first ten minutes). The race track fight was over way too soon. So was the final fight with Whiplash. It's a sequel for fuck's sake! There should always be more action in the sequel (Empire Strikes Back being the lone exception).
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I thought it was fun and better then anything out now(except kick ass)
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by Dark Knight. That includes a girl with serious A.D.D. who is usually more interested in her hair.
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I love it when people think they can review a movie based on some dark, shaky, grainy, illegal copy of a movie. Sorry, but you're opinion is not valid.
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felt like favreau let the success of the first film get to his head a bit, and he got cocky with IM2, glossing over the character interaction and development that made the first one so enjoyable to watch. the action was lacking too, and now i'm glad favs didn't get signed to Avengers. having said that, IM2 has its moments, and the performances were still good. i am also loving the Avengers build up. i'm going out on a limb and predicting Thor will be one of the best Marvel movies to date. branagh will do as good a job, if not better, than ang lee did with Hulk. just a hunch, to be sure, but i'm making the call now and sticking with it until i actually see the movie.
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but don't get your granny panties in a bunch!The movie I downloaded online wasn't grainy or dark!
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with a lot of valid points.cool.
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I woke up for a few minutes and there were a bunch of lame looking robots dancing, I think. did I even see the right movie?
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... I'm quite certain that Whiplash's cockatoo has a lock on Best Supporting Housepet at next year's Academy Awards. No other critter performance is gonna touch the pathos and subtle nuances of that lil' birdy.I'm also betting the meanies at Guantanamo Bay could've put those Hammer Torture Techniques to good use back in the day:"So, Hassan... you will not give us information, then? Very well. We shall take your bird... your shoes... and YOUR PILLOWS!"."NO!--- not the pillows! Allah be damned... I shall speak!".
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BUT THIS MOVIE SUCKS ASS !!!
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Just saw it, enjoyed it a lot. But the Iron Man dance sequence is gonna go down in Talkback infamy! Rourke was sensational, Scarlett's ass exceptional, Gwyneth's legs and smile tops, and Downey was ok too. ;)
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May 08, 2010 1:08:14 PM CDT
HollywoodHellraiser, I've seen screenshots of that copy
by mattmanreturns
if you think that's not grainy or dark, I question whether or not you've ever seen a movie in a theater, since you seem to have no concept of visual quality.
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...Why is everyone discussin Scarlets ass? its not no J Lo ass... its pretty nonexistent... and i swear, her eyes are screwed up... like her right eye or pupil is a inch from her nose while the left is like an inch and a half away... pretty much, theyre crooked... also her fight scene was cool
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...It was great seein props i thought i would never see on film... fights were cool... Everyone did a good job actin... i love the freak out scene in monaco and the scene of Tony interactin wit everyone in monaco... and they played a favorite song of mines, ROBOT ROCK!
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watch it again. when they pick whiplash up off the track his right foot does come off. it's not his shoe.
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he gives Whiplash his passport and info on Stark in Russia
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what the fuck.
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...I didnt like how campy he was... kinda made him seem like he was just a small guy in a large secret government company... the guy from New Adventures of Old Christine seems to be more professional about his business... Sammie should had played him like he played the character in Jackie Brown
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Just tell us whether Rourke's fucking legs were amputated or not!
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Could he not even attempt to affect a character? No, he was the same annoying jive talking sarcastic asshole who has been slowly descending into hackdom for the last ten years now. I'm terrified he's going to poison The Avengers with his presence.
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May 08, 2010 1:33:58 PM CDT
AceofWands, Whiplash turned off the redunancies/overrides
by jsarnold513
That was something that was set up early in the War Machine/Iron Man fight at the end. Rhodes says he's lost control of the armor and Tony tries to override it and turn it off, but he's been locked out by Whiplash's tinkering. They did establish Whiplash as a computer genius (in addition to a physics genius and an engineering genius) when he cracks the encrypted code to the Hammer droids in seconds. So that much works.
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May 08, 2010 1:37:16 PM CDT
Sorry MattmanReturns, you need to surf some more.
by hollywoodhellraiser
Have you forgotten this is the INTERNET? My advice for you, try other sites!
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just sayin
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May 08, 2010 1:44:16 PM CDT
Samuel Jackson still doing his tired Shaft routine!
by hollywoodhellraiser
Mace Windu was Shaft as is Nick Fury! SJ is in it for the money now.
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...Its funny, bein such a film geek, i already knew of the super 8 teaser, but when it came on no one really cared and actually made those "wont see" jokes... how was everyone else reactin to it when you guys saw it? also, when the movie was endin, i wanted to yell "stay after the credits!" but then again i really dont care about strangers
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If you were, you would've gone to a THEATER and watched the movie. A true film buff doesn't watch a shitty cam copy of a movie. I'm not the one on the wrong site. This place is for people who actually like movies. Those who paid for it have a right to criticize it. You don't. Anyway, you're worth no more of my time.
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...To me its kinda stupid they made iron man set before hulk cuz um, if that was the case, shouldnt iron man tried to stop hulk seein as he is a super hero and EVERYONE knows it...
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Hammer wanted to seem tough and show how in charge he was, but he didn't know how because Hammer's not tough. He's just a rich tool. So he figured his best option was to show he could take everything he'd "given" to Whiplash. The only thing was... Whiplash didn't have anything to take away except for pillows and the clothes on his back. It was a weird scene, but I thought it was funny and worked.
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...Was the closest to a live action gundam robot i have ever seen on film...And it didnt look weird seein his head floatin on a cgi body (that effect looked bad on iron man and war mach)
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Poor thing needs a shoulder to cry on! There, there big fellow its ok to run and cry like a bitch!
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Like they were finishing effects at the last minute there. Also, they beat him way too easily... my only major complaint about the movie really.
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I hope they somehow use the Hulk in The Avengers, or at least show a monstrous Hulkbuster suit at some point in the Avengers or IM3. I didn't get it in this one, but with the timeline it makes sense why.
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Was good just not as good as Iron man 1
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...I hated seein tony and rhodey face while in the suit... it looks so fake plus the suit makes em like a foot taller, really makin their heads look unrealistic... especially the drunk party scene
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RDJ was at least good and Palthrow looked tasty.
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how on earth the same suit fitted both?at least in the original comics,Stark builds the WM armor specifically for Rhodney to operate it in order to replace him since he had became an alcoholic.This movie as story goes SUCKS BALLS.
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May 08, 2010 2:11:37 PM CDT
Batman Begins Sucked so of course Dark Knight could only go UP
by jeangrey_x23_lesbosex
Iron man II was a good movie, it kept everything that made the first work, jokes, banter with Pepper. And added the greatest ASS since Nicki Minaj in Scar Jo. Suck on it.
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He was acting, and not just being a parody of himself. I loved his part!
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that scene tells you alot about the character, clearly he hadnt prepared for this so it was sort of a sudden impulse to mistreat whiplash in that manner.
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May 08, 2010 2:15:51 PM CDT
Batman Begins is the best superhero movie of all time
by dioxholsterreturns
better than Dark Knight too. so dont hate on it.
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...What site am i at? but Scars ass is not nice... unless of course you like slim, unshapely, no meat in the cheeks asses... and Nicky Minajs ass is not attractive either... one thing i dont like, fake asses...
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paltrow should get some ass kicking action in the third film. time to put that body to use. I wonder will whiney put out a statement she is quitting the movie bueiness. strange woman. its amazing how large cheques can change one's mind.
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Loved the first Iron Man. Absolutely hated Iron Turd 2. I can't believe they allowed this thing to go through......A major step back for super hero movies in my opinion. Sad but true.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQZwHHk9Cy8
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they got my money .. actually my scene points to see it ... 1st movie of summer?? Hope summer gets better.
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Loved Justin Theroux's "Tropic Thunder, but the script for the latest Iron Man was pretty terrible all around. Believability was a key factor--- the movie didn't have enough. I still don't understand how Whiplash, a character who has like a thousand vulnerable spots, can go toe-to-toe with Iron Man in a prolonged battle. I wasn't convinced by Whiplash's motivations to go after Tony in the first place. Speaking of Tony, he came across as a very unsympathetic character, so I was kind of rooting for the villains to put him down. The Iron Man-getting-drunk-at-the-party was about as bad as Peter Parker doing the disco in Spider-Man 3, and that scene only seemed to serve as an excuse for Iron Man and War Machine to get into a fight. And on top of that, the pace of the story was slow and took about an hour for the movie to get to a point. And if the story isn't any good, then the whole movie sinks as a reult. I
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you know it
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When you make a second film you have to put the characters through the greatest possible opposition you can with a bleak outlook, they also have to learn to deal with being themselves. Because good heros are not heros at all they are very flawed characters. Usually the mission ahead isn't something they asked for either. it's something they are pulled into. Someone important must be lost as well. And it shouldnt end in a win but wiht the hope that a solution lays ahead in a follow up.
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Is his weak piece of shit movie even playing anymore?
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To the continuation of the franchise, and I love Favreau's blockbuster comic franchise-I wonder how he would do w/ Thor if Ken Branagh wasn't already helming it.
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Think about this, Iron Man lost his charisma with IM2, everybody hates Tony obviously (nice move making him an douchebag), Thor's costume looks plastic as opposed to chain and metal, Chris 'Johnny Storm' as Cap (add Joe 'Wolfman' Johnston to that mix) and finish with the topping of Joss Weadon for a great Avengers movie. Yay.
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and Thor will be incredible, low expectations can only lead to Branaugh raping your eyeballs Odin style. have at thee!
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...and all to be commanded by the predictable performance of Sammy J. as Nick Fury.
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May 08, 2010 3:26:33 PM CDT
Better than the 1st one hands down!!! Only Faggots disagree!
by harryizafaggot
Iron Man 1 was like this RDJ rehab celebration...while this was an actual Iron Man movie! Loved it, and could care less about Howard not being WM.
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will eventually see the light, they are just in denial because there have little exitement in their real lives!
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Spoken like a true emo. Are you at home hugging your copy of X Men 2?
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Notice ever film he's gushed about falls short of box office expectations. IM2 isnt going to break any records and is doing about as half bad as the studio was wishing against - BUT HARRY LOVED IT. Do I even need to mention Nightmare on Elm Street or Kick-Ass?
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I think our expectations were raised for this sequal since the first movie even though based on a character not as famous as Batman or Superman had in Iron Man a character inhabiting an onscreen world of that had corporate greed, terrorism, james bond level of high technology as well as the betrayal and third act twist of Obadiah Stane selling American weapons To terrorists that were used to kill Americans. Nobody was really expecting that kind of depth in Iron man (I definitely wasn't) so it was a refreshing suprise and a quality film to boot. Iron Man 2 had very few scenes that tied it into reality in the way the first movie did, apart from the goverment trying to force Iron man to give up his weapons for the good of the country - a more interesting angle that SHOULD have been explored in much more depth even going so far as maybe having his best friend Rhodes manipulated by the government to steal Tony Starks technology, this could've been a actalyst for Starks fall into alcoholism and would have provided a much stronger middle to the film which just had too many characters which we as an audience are not emotionally attached to. Even the end where Vanko died was way too quick and easy, the whole film was easy and did not have Tony making many sacrifices or having too many issues to deal with. The man who died helping Tony escape the terrorists in the first Iron Man movie really added a sense of weight and focus to his character that was totally absent in Iron Man 2 - a shame because this film has action and excitement built in with the capabilities of the Iron man suit - it really just needed a stronger plot and storyline worthy of the excellent actors who were onscreen.
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May 08, 2010 4:04:35 PM CDT
How could Iron Man 2 have been better ?? -your thoughts please?
by deanmail
actalyst = catalyst (my apologies , its late here in London and I'm getting old , LOL)
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you and deanmail should meet...and fuck each other...to death
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and I pretty much got what I was expecting. Jon Favwhatever, isn't Steven Spielberg.
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Spielberg has given us plenty of sappy, crappy and lame things, not all he touches is gold.
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or is it a really trendy thing for fans to turn on movie franchises. It seems like no matter what, there will be some kind of flash mob that comes out of no where to spread the hate. Leave the movie alone! You don't need to LOVE every second of every comic book adaptation released in theaters. I LOVE Spiderman 2 but I could have done without the ridiculous train scene where everyone stands up for the unconscious Peter Parker. Crucify me for saying such things, but not every movie will nor should live up to our wildest expectations. All we can ask for is a good, if not equal, companion to the first Iron Man. Not every sequel is The Dark Knight. Which is funny, because people seemed to have turned on that movie too.
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tried to be dark but failed.
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He felt wrong, too campy. I hope Samuel L. Jackson can take the character a little more seriously in the future.
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...If its late then go to sleep with your (in my opinion) stupid opinion... youre makin the first one deeper than it was... and if the first was that deep then the sequel is equally or if not deeper (father issues, government tryin to weaponize the tech, dyin a slow death, friendship, etc)... also, this is a summer blockbuster movie, meanin turn your pretentious ass off and ENJOY somethin... if iron man two was that bad, i beg you to get someone from your country to make a movie that i would even bother commentin on let alone seein... you are the reason movies get worse, not the "dumb, mindless" people who can ENJOY FICTION
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Tony Stark's dialogue
The Monaco Scene
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Too much CG not enough story
Not enough Whiplash
Last fight too short
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Tony in the suit without the helmet on. Every scene with him dancing without the helmet on, drunk, etc...
Rhodie's magical ability to fly the suit without a hitch
The friend blast to end the final fight
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I see too much critic worship going on with people like that. Either they can't form an opinion themselves and get it from a favorite critic, or they look to a critic to reinforce thier negativity toward a film. It's simply not worth my time to read what a critic says, or anyone else before I have seen a movie and formed an opinion. But unlike the hardcore haters here, I go to a movie to relax and enjoy for a couple hours, not to try and find every flaw, regardless of how minute or unimportant, to bitch about.
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is it takes you of the real, dull boring world and transport the viewer to an imaginary world. i agree with what you say.
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May 08, 2010 5:14:23 PM CDT
im not a critic but i didnt get a boner watching iron man 2
by dioxholsterreturns
even though the cheerleaders and the party girls were hot. iron man 1 gave me a boner though.
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obviously didn't understand the movie at all. For instance the guy that said Whiplash could have torn Stark in half at Monica. HE DIDN'T WANT TO KILL HIM YOU ASSHOLES!!!! the whole point of the attack was to show the world stark isn't a god and he could bleed. He knew he couldn't beat him. The movie was solid and used the multiply characters perfectly, they all had a reason for being there. Great film.
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May 08, 2010 5:18:38 PM CDT
i use my dick to measure the value of the movie being watched
by dioxholsterreturns
for example: my dick got really hard when watching AVATAR, the level of hardness meant my rating was 8.6 out of 10.
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May 08, 2010 5:20:29 PM CDT
joevfx, you mean as a villain he just wanted to mess around?
by dioxholsterreturns
thats just great, much better.
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"Steven Spielberg is no Jon Favreau" - Wow, you just won the prize for most idiotic thing ever said on here. Congrats.
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I have several Russian friends and the first thing I've done upon meeting each of them for the first time is to repeat the line, "We will catch moose and squirrel." I get the weirdest looks but it's always gut-bustingly hilarious. Oddly enough, when I explain the line is from Rocky and Bullwinkle, they've always gotten the joke. It's a surefire way of getting a smile out of a Russian girl, which is a difficult thing to do under any circumstances.
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... ask them (the Russians) to repeat the line, "We will catch moose and squirrel." Arrgh!
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My dick rates SGU as 9.9 out of 10
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But I was pretty underwhelmed by IM2. The performances were nice but there was no tension or drama. I was looking at my watch for most of the third act.
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May 08, 2010 5:28:39 PM CDT
am i the only one who saw the cap and bucky comic?
by therealrockinrolla
it was when tony was going through the case of his dads old stuff
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Was the bomb. Her fighting style was cool. I couldn't keep my eyes off her in the scenes she was in. Damn she is hot.
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May 08, 2010 5:29:31 PM CDT
The Guyver would own Iron Man and War Machine at the same time.
by codename
Just saying.
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And you are the biggest retarded asshole because you are far too stupid to fathom what that means. I know you want to wrap your lips around Speilbergs cock for endless loads shot into your throat, but he has a far from perfect track record. So shut the fuck up you brain dead cunt.
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I'm going to see IM2 today and I certainly don't expect a cinematic orgasm. It's fucking Iron Man.
I expect to be entertained for 2 hours and be damn happy these films are being handled with competence, and some long term vision.
Ten years ago we would have flipped out to know they would be compiling one franchise after another culminating in an Avengers film! Now we have a bunch of emo puke fan-boys with man boobs decalring "Avengers will suck" because they don't like the look of Thor's sleeve in a production still.
Or having a hissy fit about the lack of R rated ultra violence in Iron Man or because Thor strays from the one story line (out of 50) that they like.
If Iron Man is mediocre, I'll be the first to call it. Thor, Cap, etc...will all all be of varying quality and competency. I'm just glad we're getting to witness the attempt as opposed to nothing at all.
But I guess that is the mentality I'm speaking of here: All or nothing. If it's not fan boy perfection...it's shit. Look at me... the uber cool contrarian who's edgy and too cool for school.
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but praise shit like Kick Ass for it's ultra violence.
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It was very hit and miss in my opinion. Doc Ock was awesome and the action was pretty good, but the whole "poor Spider-Man" idea was dumb as hell. I was never a fan of Tobey Maguire or Kirsten Dunst in pretty much anything they've been in.
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I don't know why you're bringing up "my country" in regards to Iron Man 2 but in response to your jingoism, someone from my country directed "The Dark Knight" and "Gladiator" ... Your anger is misdirected as an opinon is just that - a personal opinion, nothing stupid about having an opinon, one of the things I always liked about America was freedom of speech, no need for insults.
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Some things didn't quite jive. Like some others said, I didn't quite get where Whiplash's motivations for destroying Stark came from? Tony's dad sent Whiplash's dad back to Russia, where he was sent to Siberia and lived the rest of his life as a drunk? Um, ok. So how did Whiplash learn all the physics stuff? From his drunk dad? Just not enough background there.
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I thought it was a good second effort (though the first one was just a little bit better IMHO). Only problem in my mind was the pacing. I would've liked a scene at the beginning illustrating how Iron Man was bringing about world peace. A nice montage of Iron Man kicking the crap out of some missile silos and tanks in Russia, or China maybe(Mandarin cameo maybe) would've sufficed. Then handle a bit of the exposition, and push the Monaco fight back to the middle of the movie to pick up the pace where it was lagging. Ah, well. Just a thought. And did anyone else notice that stark's "new element" looked just like a buckyball? That bothered me a little. Felt like a lack of creativity in the graphics department.
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When I bought my ticket, I said, "One for the 9:25 showing of The Invincible Iron Man 2" because I wanted to use the opportunity to use the full comic book name. I'll probably ask for a ticket for The Mighty Thor when Thor comes out.
I notice the scene where Pepper tosses Tony's helmet out of the plane was cut.I liked the movie. I think my favorite action scene was actually when Iron Man had immobilized Whiplash's whip and was pulling himself hand-over-hand toward Whiplash. It looked more visually interesting to me than the other fighting stuff.
When IM and War Machine were pummeling each other, I thought, "Can they actually hurt each other by punching these metal suits?" I wondered if it were pointless. Or maybe they were letting off steam and it was more of a symbolic thing.
When the robots landed around War Machine and Iron Man, I thought they should be impacting against the ground more. They look heavy and it would've seemed more realistic to me if the ground had sunk around their feet from the impact.
I felt like I didn't care much about most of the action sequences for some reason. Maybe because I wasn't concerned for our heroes' safety. I did, however, get emotionally involved when Tony realizes Pepper is in danger and flies to her rescue. For whatever reason, I shed a tear when they kissed. I did like the dialogues between the two characters in the movie. I wondered how Rhodes would know how to turn on and pilot the War Machine armor, but maybe Tony explained it to him between movies. -
I would rather have a Guyver suit over Iron Man armor any day.
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...Powerring, exactly! action movies, especially super hero movies should not require deep thought (though in batmans case, it should cuz that shit is deep)... I fear film geeks lives are so terrible and unworthwhile that they look for flaws in things that you should ENJOY
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...Powerring, exactly! action movies, especially super hero movies should not require deep thought (though in batmans case, it should cuz that shit is deep)... I fear film geeks lives are so terrible and unworthwhile that they look for flaws in things that you should ENJOY
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...If what i said offended you then that means your opinion was stupid and that you are pretentious... nothin wrong wit it... also, i technically hate America, what i said bout your country has nothin to do wit jingoism, and actually, i do take back what i said cuz i do likes the Ritchie and Nolan... but do yourself and everyone else a favor, read books, stop watchin summer blockbuster movies about men wearin robot suits... i heard theres some shakespear guy who writes deep stuff if you need deepiness to enjoy things...
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Stupid job keeps jerking me around with overtime and what-not.
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Is it just me or did they look kind of lopsided? Maybe I just can't get that Oscar dress from a few years back out of my head, I don't know.
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between the 6months gap of the 2 movies when Tony was in rescue missions.But eventually one night,Peppers while taking Rhodneys big fat black dick in her rectum,thought about Tony and decided that her heart will always belong truly to Tony even though she could never reveal her true feelings to Tony.
so the next day she breaks up with Rhodney until she decides what to do with her feelings towards Tony.Ofc that didnt sit very well with Rhodney who got mad with Tony because in his warped mind,he thought that a black military guy could never win the girl when the rival was a rich white boy.not even despite the fact that he had a horse cock and the white bitch loved to deep throat it every night.
So Rhodney decided to get revenge.Tony stole his girl,so he was going to stole his armor and use it for his own interests.So while keeping posed as Tony's closest friend, he started gathering all the intel he could acquire about how the suit was operated.He even managed to convince Tony by a lot of begging,to lend him the armor and show him how to fly it.
yeah Tony was helping him all right with his plan to betray him and get his revenge and he didnt have a clue.
So the final day comes and Rhodney already prepared,goes and manages to steal Tony armor.but the best thing: he had a fist fight with Tony who tried to stop him from stealing the suit,and he kicked his pathetic white ass.Revenge is sweet,thought Rhodney to himself and smiled while flying effortlessly with his new acquired weapon of total destruction.Revenge is sweet...
And thats what happened during the 6month gap between the 2 movies.and my theory is as valid as yours since anybody can hypothesize anything that could happen during that time gap.so suck it. -
May 08, 2010 7:06:46 PM CDT
Should comic book movies be mad for fans? or for the general pub
by yubnubrocks
I'm torn. And Iron Man 2 is a great example. All the die-hard Iron Man comic readers obviously know much, much more than your average joe. But when someone who has no knowledge of these characters goes into the movie, the movie SHOULD make sense and their should be motivations behind everyone. So, what do you think? For the fan? or for the public?
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I meant "made" for fans.
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Feels like they had the Studio sitting on them from Day 1 to get this as close to PG as possible and it shows everywhere. Tony is acting fucked up but not TOO fucked up to be unloveable. Scarlett is hot but carries her character with no sense of lethality or intelligence--if she can act this didn't prove it, but the bad writing and decision for wire-fu fighting isn't on her. And at the end, it sounded as though they were setting up to have someone other than Downey (too expensive?) be Iron Man in the Avengers arc. The whole thing smacks of focus groups looking at dailies and accountants negotiating tie-ins as integral components to the finished product. Kinda sad.
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The first one was awesome, surprised me.
This second one is what I thought the first one was gonna be.Okay, but not as good..
SPOILERS!
The ending was weak. They build up Rourke only to have him defeated quietly by that stupid little co-op move? It was like "Thats IT??"
Same with the robots. They build up throughout the movie, giving us sneak peaks at these robots, and they are promptly disposed of through that big globe and in the park with Iron Man's spinney laser thing. Its like..."That's IT??"
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I'm still trying to figure out why Stark needed to jump out of an airplane. And why did they cut the "you complete me" scene? That was good!
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Dont know why that cut that line it happens. But as far as jumpning out of a plane why the hell not.
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I was right. Now you morons can stop pretending that you liked it. TDK shits all over this
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whats your point?
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I enjoyed TDK, even with the mumbled dialogue. What I enjoyed about Iron Man 1, in contrast, was that it was just a fun, comic book movie. Nothing to deep - just a good time. Iron Man 2? Still fun, but the action lacked compared to #1. I loved the banter between Stark and Pepper, though.
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You retard.
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is an idiot.
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I think I might've been bothered slightly by the red beam action in part because the weapon was not established earlier. But not establishing an ability didn't bother me as much with other weapons Iron Man used. Maybe it's because the beam was so powerful? It's just that, if Iron Man can introduce super weapons like that in a scene, I don't feel as concerned for him because I never know his ultimate limitations. Although I can't really complain since he did stuff like that in the comic as well, such as lowering plexiglass shields over his eyes-holes in one comic to protect himself from stuff flung by a villain when he was fighting armored guys working for Hammer.
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HAVE LIVE FUCKING AMMO??????
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Yep, I was wondering the same thing!
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I have to say this was one of the most fun theater experiences I have had in a long time. People were cheering and clapping! it was a total blast. Seeing it again as soon I can. Now I can hardly wait for the Avengers movie! Downey rules!
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I read a lot of Iron Man in my younger years, and Bethany Cabe was always my dream girl back in the day. She was always drawn hot by Bob Layton and I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to see her as Pepper's rival in IM3. GET HER IN THE MOVIES AND MAKE HER SEXY AS HELL!!! That is all.
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And I can't believe how ridiculously offbase it is. I mean He's just incorrect in every single assessment. What strikes me more bizarre is how little back-up he has for any of it. Even when I disagreed with him back in his Moriarty days (he's always had a very tenuous grip on the concept of a big genre film) I would at least be able to see where he's coming from. Here it's just one laymen opinion after the next. Bon Mots like Cheadle being better than Terrance Howard? How does one come tot hat conclusion, in what scene? Or praising the absolutely painful to watch and embarrassing drunken party scene? Christ Drew, what have they done to you?
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Fuck the Hurt Locker. The most overrated movie I've ever seen. While I'm at it, fuck you Gene. Hahaha.
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"Just because you have the big gun doesn't make you the big gun." Great work from everyone involved. RDJ knocks it out of the park effortlessly. Loved seeing Mjöllnir in the desert too.
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May 08, 2010 8:56:07 PM CDT
Christ Squidgy the LAST thing IM3 needs is another love interest
by industrykiller!
Or any comic book movie that isn't Superman, SPider Man, or The Hullk. Love interests are pretty much the low point of every superhero film in which the girl isnt built in tot he fabric of the character. It's what makes Nolans move in TDK to make Rachel Dawes into merely a cypher for Harvey Dents arc all the more brilliant. SHe didn't work and didn't even deserve to be used in a sequel, so he pawned her off to another character, perfect.
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This movie rocks, just needs some Bethany Cabe in it and it woulda been damn near perfect. IF they could EVER DO IT, HULK VS. IM would be so frickin' cool - they could do the fight from the comic series...That is all.
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May 08, 2010 8:58:18 PM CDT
Like all shitty summer films, no one has yet defended IM2
by industrykiller!
on it's merits. because it has none. It''s and absurd scriptless mess from beginning to end.
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Would you pay another $10 to see IM2 in the theater again?
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to be fair, I found IM2 passable and definitely watchable, but a lot of the blame for what I would consider wrong with this picture boils down to one thing, and only one thing: the business practices being established by Marvel (film making and writing by committee, universe building, and low ball 9 picture deals being chief among them). am I the only one disappointed by 10 of the last fifteen minutes of the action packed finale essentially being CGI headlights flying around in the dark? Rather than offer up a substantially larger budget to up the ante on this pic, and build on it's predecessors success, they subtracted from the CG budget to offset pay increases to Favreau and Downey; the end result being a lackluster showdown that smacked of a lack of shooting days or FX budget.
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Yep, I totally agree about the finale.
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AICN will invest in a REAL talkback forum, ya know, where you can actually REPLY to comments.
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.....it isnt lightning in a bottle, but I am satisfied....I don't think the point of this movie was to be the end all be all since it is a link to Avengers...
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$30 for the blu is another story.
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I'm looking forward to Thor and Capt. America. Should be a good time. I was surprised how many people left the theater before the final easter egg.
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Well, the movie was good, it had some pacing issues, I was a bit tired and fell asleep for about 10 minutes halfway into the movie when the plot was plodding along, but I liked the entirety of it overall. Black Widow's fight in the hallway brought super hot sexiness back to violence, Yowwww! I have a huge soft spot for War Machine, even though they didn't quite present him in the light they should have. The whole Whiplash, Justin Hammer thing just seemed kind of below Iron Man, like he could have flicked his wrist and killed both of them twice. Like one of the talkbackers earlier said all that stuff should have taken place in the first half and the second half should have been the whole "demon in a bottle" scenario and War Machine taking over. Then having a big big fight when between Tony and Rhodes. Oh well, still it was fun.
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I hear ya, bud. If they made streamlined, Guyver-like villains to fight Iron Man in the end of the films, we would have no more sequels. I think that is why Iron Man has to fight slower and bigger villains so he could live to make another sequel.
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Are some filler shorts (20-30 minutes) that are the Marvel equivalent of Godzilla movies. Iron Man vs. Hulk; SHIELD vs. pretty much anybody. Hulk vs. Hammer (a comedy bit). Little exposition, slam, bang special effects ably done because the runtime is short and end. Make Black Widow fucking lethal like in ultimates and introduce a minor character or two like Hawkeye. Maybe document a meeting between Fury and Magneto (how cool would that conversation be?). Use them to audition directors, effects crews, writers. God, those thing would OWN pay-per-view on cable.
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Hollywood needs to hire the fight choreographer of the Naruto series to consult and direct action scenes for Marvel/DC movies. The action for Naruto is insane and artistic at the same time. A lot of our Hollywood superhero fights are very, very spoon-fed. Import some anime directors over here to the U.S.
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Rourke was highly underutilized in this. Also, I agree that the final fight with Whiplash was way too short. Aside from that though, I really enjoyed the movie. Can't wait for Thor, Captain America, and the next Hulk flick.
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May 08, 2010 10:03:33 PM CDT
"You two look like a pair of seals fighting over a grape"
by nasty in the pasty
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I found myself bored at times. Scarlett was hot, a couple of good action scenes, not enough Rourke and I found myself not caring very much about the characters. I did stay for the "Thor" teaser at the end though. I hope this is just a bump in the road and the next movies (Avengers & IM3) are better. Here's hoping.
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was perfectly cast. John Slattery was amazing. I had a nice little chuckle when he startiog drinking ala Roger Sterling,from Mad Men
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-Not enough iron man in it, the film needed some type of iron man fight during the second act, (the drunken tony/rhodey fight wasn't enough) I really felt the middle act boged the movie down and almost bored meMore mickey rouke - seriously for the films "baddie" he wasn't in it nearly enough and he didn't have a satisfying conclusion, once again the final fight wasn't strong enough (iron man 1 had this problem) - Too many forced Marvel references - seriously the whole film could have been made without sam jackson, scarlett or other little stuff like the cap america shield... the only marvel reference should have been the thor scene at the end, i felt ike favreua was ordered to include the second act SHIELD stuffBesides those complaints, i really did like the film, it's not a spidey 2/TDK type film but it's a strong comic book movie and i actually wouldn't mind seeing it again in a few weeks once the hype dies down - 3.9 stars compared to
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Lynn Redgrave died before she got to see Iron Man 2. Imagine living your entire life, all the ups and downs, all the losses and the victories, all the heartbreak and the triumphs, and then, right before Iron Man 2 comes out, BAM! you kick the bucket. Imagine how more fulfilling Lynn Redgrave's life would've been had she seen the visual pageantry that is Iron Man 2.
She would've clapped her hands in glee when Downey Jr. made his hi-larious "slot" joke.
She would've shivered with dread when Mickey Rourke screamed for his bird.
She would've sighed with contentment when Garry Shandling called Downey a tiny prick.
"What a wonderful movie", she would've thought. "Now my life is complete."
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I hate to say it, but I was pretty disappointed with this film. Reminded me of Spiderman 3 (which btw...got mostly positive reviews as well) Seems like a lot was cut. The "You complete me" jump out of the plane and a scene shown on the commercials where Tony put the Iron man glove on Scarlett's hand and lets her fire it off were nowhere to be seen. But I think what mostly upset me with this film was how it flowed. The beginning is a long drawn out seen with Danko watching his father die and then proceeding to build his own Iron Man -like- suit. Danko is such an uninteresting non-compelling villain that the film immediately starts off on the wrong foot. We never knew his dad, so quite frankly, we don't care that he died. We are then lead through several scenes where we feel as if we are watching Tony Stark through a television set. We watch his Stark Expo ceremony speech and then immediately watch his Washington Senate hearing. This stuff could have been great - but the jokes are simply not there like the last film. So for the first 20 minutes the audience is just sitting there through a bunch of boring stuff waiting for the film to pick up. Danko at the race track is simply laughable. The guy is not armored in the slightest and he proceeds to attack various race car drivers. All it would take is a single cop with a gun to put this down for good. And that's what becomes the problem. A weak villain. Danko has no range to his attacks...and everybody knows this. Yet every time Iron Man or Rhodes attacks Danko, they do so from close proximity. Basically the protagonists have to act like morons to create a conflict. Let me talk about Rhodes as well. There's a scene where Warmachine and Iron Man get into a fight...and I truly think this scene was made last minute. I'm talking about prequel Wolverine FX bad. Remember Wolverine's claws in the mirror? That's basically Warmachine's suit during this scene. The best scenes in the movie are when Scarlett is on screen. She steals the show yet it seems like she is doing it in her sleep. Samuel L Jackson and his fellow shield officers seem so ridiculously cartoony that you could picture them as guest stars on a show like Smallville (yes I know Smallville is DC). And I realize these are "comic" movies and that "cartoony" and "comic" kind of go side by side. But the goal of a live action comic film should be to better blend the fictional world with reality. What a lackluster job they did with SHIELD. Samuel L Jackson is Halloween costume bad and his presence is never believable. Part of the appeal of the modern day superhero is that they take heroes and concepts we enjoyed when we were kids and make them appealing and somewhat believable/entertaining to us as adults. There's a reason majority of us stopped reading comics when we hit puberty - we grew up. Doesn't mean we don't have a place for them still in our hearts. That's the beauty of the first film, and the batman films of late. Those films made comic book characters entertaining to the adult mind.
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i hated that the first film ended with him revealing himself, part of what i love about superheroes is the alter ego part, they can take off the suit and be seperated from the hero. Iron man lacks this and it makes the movie seem hyper active or somethingI was never an iron man comic reader, but wasn't starks identity a secret in the books? why change it for the movies?
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My wife thought of it, and I said hell yes
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An entertaining but underwhelming sequel due to an uneven script. There was hardly any action in the sequel compared to the first one. (Fav needs to tell the f/x guys to slow down the speed so the audience can see what is happening.)Whiplash did seem to lose parts of his legs at the Monaco racetrack. I'm glad others who've seen the movie caught this as well. Black Widow was pointless to introduce and Scarlett was miscast.(Emily Blunt would've been better but she couldn't do it due to a scheduling conflict. CATWOMAN MR. NOLAN, MAKE IT SO!)First Spiderman dancing, now Iron Man too? Please, no more.My expectation for the rest of the Marvel movies has been lowered. I don't think Chris Evans can pull off Captain America and Marvel seems to be doing things on the cheap.
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Chris Evans for Captain America? How did I miss this? Evans is a wisecracking smirking douchebag. He wears Ed Hardy and watches wrestling. Cap is a modest, mild-mannered gentleman from 1940's America, he believes in calling people 'sir' and holding the door open for ladies. He's old-fashioned and polite, but he can pretty much kick anyone's ass. Chris Evans looks like he gets drunk on two gin-and-tonics and wouldn't want to get into an actual fight because he thinks his face is too pretty. Also, I know Cap isn't supposed to be an old man or anything, but he needs to be a big man who's on the other side of 30. Chris Evans is too young, too small, and too... I don't know... soft... I guess, to play Steve Rogers. This is terrible news.
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May 08, 2010 11:07:22 PM CDT
I wanna know how much Formula 1 payed for the Monaco scene
by industrykiller!
The fact that he's confronted at a race car event in Monaco is so absurd and arbitrary it pretty much negates the pretty good (but very overrated and lacking in scope) fight that comes after it. I mean did he know Stark was going to impulsively decide to race in an incredibly popular sporting event the world over without a. being a professional race car driver and therefore putting everyone else on the track in mortal danger or b. qualifying to race in the fuckin thing? If so maybe he's a mutant with psychic powers. THe whole thing smacked of being a shameless plug.
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imagine Cap and the Human Torch standing next to each other. They do not look alike in my minds eye, beyond the blonde hair.
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would make a better choice, but he's a little too old, maybe... I just can't picture Cap as some swaggering kid! FUCK
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for captain. Isn't Captain America older anyway? I mean...it's not like Robert Downey Jr. or Edward Norton are young. How dumb is it going to be that they are going to be taking orders from a little punk. As odd of a choice as it sounds, I could see Dicaprio, Downey and Norton playing off each other pretty well.
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you know it
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Stark was going to the race, but it was impromptu that he was going to drive in actual race. Whiplash was going to attack Stark regardless if he was driving in the race or not.
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I am sure Formula One paid nothing, because 1) they weren't even mentioned ans 2) those weren't even F1 cars
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Maybe because Rhodey's suit is Stark technology with a Stark OS? Drones were created by Hammer/Vanko? That's the only thing I can think of, but even if that's the reason, seems like it should get explained.
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No, ude. Did I say, ude? I meant, dude.
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Who?
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Going by this site, SUPER8 teaser is THE RELEASE of the summer.
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Sigh. I loved the original. Gotta ask you though...What happened? Please tell me what the hell happened! You CANNOT DIRECT AN AVENGERS MOVIE WITHOUT ACTION!!!! Iron Man 2 should have been a warm up...now I am truly frightened. The biggest complaint of the first film was how quickly the bad guy was defeated. Iron Man 2 wraps up even quicker. Where was the action in the film? The only fights for 3 quarters of the film was the decent first attack at the race track and then the best friends tussle through the house. There was no sense of danger as they were both GOOD GUYS. Then later Stark is chased by a GOOD GUY. No sense of danger to the drones (felt like STAR WARS EPISODE 1 all over again...power droids anyone?) And one move destroys them all? A move that came form nowhere with tech that was developed off screen? MAN! What a missed opportunity! The audience likes to see the protagonist almost defeated before they win. Iron Man got dented. Big deal! Another thing...where was the shot from the trailer with Pepper and Tony? Great moment in the trailer edited out for time? What about Rockwell...real bad bad guy. He is taken down by cops. Yawn. Don't get me wrong this is no Spider man 3 or Batman and Robin...but my GOD...it wasn't even close to the original. Except that Downey is great. I will never watch this film again. Boring. Pointless. Annoying.
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I really like the cast and characters but there was no adventure. the movie swings back and forth between hammer's factory and tony's world's fair. rourke's character goes from vengeful badass to employee. i really wanted to like it cause i like downey but it wasn't a good film. the scope of this story was soooo small. as much as i like cheadle, i preferred terence howard's rhodey.
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My wife really liked the first Iron Man and was pretty bored by this one. She was trying to explain why and actually said that it would be fun if it was a comic book. I agreed, it was a comic book as told on screen. A marvel comic book. Which is why I enjoyed it. Not as much as if I were 13 instead of 37 but I still enjoyed it. It was exactly like a Marvel comic book. I was never that huge of an Iron Man fan, so, it was just good fun for me. I am looking forward to Captain America and Thor. Oh, and Downey Jr can do no wrong. Seriously.
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stand alone Iron Man adventure film, because 1/2 hour of this film was establishment of a larger Marvel film universe which was cool, but it really did slow the film down significantly. I'd say a good 1/2 hour cut from this film of that stuff would turn this into a perfect summer roller coaster just like the first film.
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and set up all the Marvel stuff for the other films. i'd be worried that it will hurt the box office if I hadn't witnessed last summer's Transformers 2 make over $400 million domestic with at least an hour of total waste.
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That movie was garbage, this movie was fucking great IMO-Cheadle killed as WM and how fucking awesome was Sam Rockwell?
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Wow. So jumbled. Such a mess. You're really going to start the picture off with a a fucking 5 minute speech by Tony Stark? Really? God bless the fallback of porn and beer. Gawd Awful mess will still rake in dough and be called a success. Sad. Okay. Done.
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Didn't the first one start off with a speech by Stark's brother? Really? you can't sit through a speech that lasted like 10 seconds? Ass.
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The FIRST Iron Man was written by 4 different screenwriters. Iron Man 2 was written by ONE man, Justin Theroux. That's hardly a committee.
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....it's by a comimittee. As plain as night and day. It WAS written by a committe, and I'm betting RDJ hands are ALL OVER IT. (Especially the stupid donut scene).
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...shall pass. Well, the era of superhero movies has been realized, Superman, Batman, Spiderman, Hulk, Iron Man, on and on, filmed, done and in the can. Some for better,some for worse. Now we know. Now, we await an era of great film making to born that is aligned with the technology of today, yet to be.
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Seriously, 2 tries and the Hulk is still boring?
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I hear you, bud. After far too many first installments of recent comic book adaptations that were encumbered by the need for origin stories to clue in the uninitiated (X-Men, Spiderman, Batman, Hulk, and Iron Man)... pumping the brakes on "Iron Man 2" in service of the eventual Avengers movie may be the lesser of two evils. I too would've preferred a more kinetic Iron Man sequel, but it *does* serve a purpose.As for those of you complaining about Mickey Rourke's appearance as Whiplash being too brief, know this: a little Rourke goes a long way. Don't believe me? Go watch "Sin City" or "Spun" again. Fast forward to "The Expendables", or roll way back to "Body Heat". The man is like a lightning strike when he's on his game, and his appearances (however brief) resonate like deep thunder. I love everything RDJ does onscreen, including both Iron Man movies. He's immensely talented... but Rourke has already earned his place in movie actor Valhalla.
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I liked how they sort of did Demon in a Bottle with a drunken Tony Stark putting on the Iron Man armor and making a scary ass of himself. He wasn't SUPPOSED to be cool in that scene. He was supposed to be pathetic and dangerous at the same time. It served its purpose of showing just how far Stark had broken down as a human being. As much as I hated the setup for that subplot and the eventual resolution, that one scene worked perfectly. If you've ever been in a situation where you've had to babysit a shitty, violent drunken friend you could totally relate.
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Now that my expectations were under control, I found that I really liked it. All the criticisms I posted earlier are still valid, but they didn't bug me as much this time. I think this is the type of movie that'll become more fun on subsequent viewings. I recommend rewatching.
Oh, and Whiplash's shins DO appear to be missing when he's dragged away at Monoco, but are back on him later at the jail scene and when Hammer takes his shoes. A friend of mine watching for the first time even commented on it with a loud "WTF?" I'd like to know what happened.
BW's fight scene looks even shittier the second time around. I've seen better fight choreography at a local indie wrestling show. You could tell that the editors were going nuts trying to make it look believable by speeding things up, quick cutting, etc. but it just didn't work. SJ just does not know how to sell a fight. -
Cause they show his foot later, after they were cut off. I'm confused.
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Even if you include an unnecessary BW and her even more unnecessary (and sucky) fight scene, there were maybe 7-8 minutes of stuff actually devoted to an Avengers movie. Only Nick Fury's 3 scenes (which were fairly short), the Capt. America gag, and the post-credits teaser even tie into The Avengers directly. I don't see why people are bitching about this film as if half the screentime was devoted to the Avengers. It was handled fairly well here, IMO. I would have liked to see even more hints of other superheros, honestly.
After we saw it on Thurs. night, my gf (not a comics fan) was asking why everyone acted like the only superhero in existence was Iron Man if there are supposed to be a bunch of others running around. She only knew this because I explained who Thor was, that Tony Stark popped up in The Incredible Hulk, and how they were building up to the Avengers movie. -
Also, did anyone die at the end besides Whiplash? I mean there a lot of gunfire and EXPLOSIONS, did anyone get injured by that?
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A tattooed prosthetic foot would be fucking retarded. He also had lower legs, as they were visible at the bottom of the screen during the jail scene when Tony goes to talk to him. I don't know WTF was going on with the scene at Monico where he was dragged away and it looked like his lower legs had been removed with CG, though. Animator's mistake that made it into the final cut, perhaps? This film was sort of rushed along on a tight schedule.
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i think anyone complaining that the Whiplash fight was too short is a bit of a bellend. Cinematically, you'd EXPECT a longer fight but c'mon, it was TWO dudes in Iron Man outfits with Stark being an expert at it against ONE dude who had pretty much no experience. It should've been shorter than it was if anything...
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But he didn't care for him much? He knew one day Anthony would see his model right side up, and that would help him create a new element that does... something? What does it do?
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Oh, and I imagine people probably did get hurt and die in the EXPLOSIONS but mercifully the movie didn't cut to their death and then have a phone call to home to inform the their family every time it happened.
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Pretty much, yeah. He'd hidden it in the model and I assume Howard had planned to still be around when Tony figured it out so he could give a big hug and he could explain why he'd been such an ass. Tony was Howard's little science project.
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I mean, he never physically had access to the suit. Is Whiplash such a computer genius that he can hack into any computer?
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How does that work? Does he just send memos to Hulk and Thor? Is Black Widow a psychological expert? Why did Whiplash hold a grudge against the Stark family? I mean, did Whiplash's father say that Iron Man's dad stole his invention? But it didn't work until Iron Man figured it out? So, how could he really blame the father if it didn't work back then?
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May 09, 2010 3:40:06 AM CDT
Whiplash controls War Machine through "software upgrades"
by jsarnold513
That's the first thing out of Hammer's mouth when he's asked what they'll do with the suit. Whiplash is the guy who revamped Hammer's software for him, thus giving him access to the suit along with the droids.
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May 09, 2010 3:43:56 AM CDT
I *think* Whiplash is just supposed to be jealous and bitter
by jsarnold513
Bitter towards the Stark family over how Howard screwed his father and bitter towards Tony because "that should be you up there!" getting all the praise for building the arc reactor. It's still flimsy, though. He could do any number of things with his life and be wildly successful once he figures out how to build the super secret arc reactor that everyone wants, yet he chooses to throw his life away on a suicide mission to knock Tony down a few pegs. WTF!?!? It's not like Tony (or even Howard) got him put in prison and ruined his life in the first place. That would at least make sense.
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He will Taser him. He then walks away and makes no effort at all to keep him from leaving. Then, Anthony leaves and buys Strawberries while driving at a 100 miles an hour. Seems like these S.H.I.E.L.D. guys aren't very smart. Maybe Tony would be wise not to join.
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May 09, 2010 3:51:06 AM CDT
I think the consultant thing just means he's not an official mem
by jsarnold513
They can call him in for special situations or ask him for advice on various things, but he's not a full time member expected to be there all the time and counted on to show up in a crunch like Cap. That's how I interpreted that. It gives them leeway to do Avengers movies without Iron Man, or at least without Iron Man featured in a major role.
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Why wasn't that scene and line from the trailer in the movie? It fucking killed and they killed it? Seriously, WTF! Saw it in IMAX and all in all it was good. Not great, but serviceable. Some niggling questions, excuse me if I'm a dork for not knowing it, but what was the element that Tony created? Vibranium? Starkonium? What? If they said it in the movie, I missed it. The War Machine/Iron Man fight at stark's house? Pretty silly. It just rang so false. "Secondary contingencies", is right: one codeword from Tony, like say, "Terrence Howard is a bitch!" and the second suit shuts down. Of course, Tony was all in self-destruct, "I'm dying" fuck everything mode, so I guess it works, in a way. Mickey Rourke and Sam Rockwell were good, but wasted for the most part. I never really perceived either of them as a threat. It might have helped if we saw them do something, I don't know, evil, maybe? Sure, the battle at the end was all bang, bang, boom! but where was the drama? I didn't feel it. Gwynith Paltrow might as well have been a robot herself, but it wasn't really her fault. The script just trivializes her to nothing but a cliche. It was cool to see Cap's shield and Thor's hammer. Hopefully their first movies will be as good as Iron Man's first. IM2 was nice to look at on the surface, but there wasn't much to see under the hood...
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The "Duel" could have been longer. and maybe one crime fighting montage.
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builds the whole tension of him or cap being the leader.
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May 09, 2010 4:00:23 AM CDT
Whiplash kills his 2 bodyguards, despite his prosthetic legs.
by lashlarue
You can see them hanging right while he makes his phone call to Tony Stark. How did he get that phone number? You'd think a famous guy like Tony Stark would have a private number. Also, did none of the 7 or 8 guards that got beat up by that girl/Black Widow not notice that 2 of them were missing during those "40 minutes"? I guess the guards don't like each other much at Hammer tech.
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I loved IM 1 for the simple reason that it was the first superhero film I've seen that didn't have at least one scene that made me roll my eyes. Unfortunately IM 2 had an abundance of eye-rolling moments. The banter and action was nice, but any meaningful enjoyment was crushed by the fact that most of the first 30 minutes was all stuff already seen in the trailers, Nick Fury was annoying, Black Widow had nothing to do, way more (sometimes shoddy) CGI than practical effects this time, and the rest of the film was packed with glaring lapses in logic. 1)Nobody knows Stark is going to race at Monoco... except Ivan, who made plans to attack him on the track weeks in advance. 2) Stark's Mark II armor was powered by the arc reactor in his chest... why does it suddenly have a seperate power source allowing it to be used by Rhodes? 3) Since the suit can be powered by another power source, why is Stark still powering his off his chest reactor, causing it to poison his body faster? 4) The "danger" of Stark's power source could be fixed by anyone with a 3rd grade education and pocket change, but instead is remedied by Tony creating a NEW element 5) Whiplash shows up in his new badass armor, and then proceeds to fight with his helmet off? 6) too much more to list atm... Didn't hate it, but am very disappointed. :(
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It's like he's not even on the premises when Tony leaves and comes back to do his extensive remodeling work. Not even a simple "WTF are you doing with that jackhammer?!?!"
But then, Tony could have solved his "toxic arc reactor" problem with a simple extension cord in about 10 seconds and not had to endure six months of constant bloodtests, looking like a human tic tac toe grid, feeling shitty, and drinking large amounts of nasty shit to counteract the effects.
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Look at them on the wall. All four of the suits of armor that Tony has on display, including the Mk II that Rhodes "steals" have glowing arc reactors prominently displayed in their chests.
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Re-reading other talkbackers is like reading my own thoughts.
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interrogate prisoners? Is that legal there? How does Whiplash know that Tony will be driving the Grand Prix car? Even Pepper Potts didn't know that. Was he planning that Iron Man would show up if he caused a lot of damage? Why go there? Why not just create destruction at any public place and wait for Iron Man to show up? How does he get his whips past the security in Russia and France? Seems like they had a lot of metal in them. Wouldn't that set off some metal detectors?
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You'd think the guy had a good understanding of the industry.
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Jeez, it was just a bad shot. I saw the same thing, it looked like his legs were cut off, since he was kneeling and then as he was being pulled away by the cops, you could briefly see his legs underneath him. He was just awkwardly sitting on them. It's a trick of the eyes. Let it go.
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Yes, those SHIELD guys aren't very smart which is why Tony makes a joke about it when Coulson catches up with him. We COULD'VE had a 15 minute scene of Tony hacking into th security to get out but as if it was not necessary.
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This place really needs a fucking 'edit post' function.
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That's it, I'm done. Let's hope IM3 does a 180 and hit the ball out of the park. IM2 is such a MESS.
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Ever watch the outtakes on the IM DVD? It's as if the types of scenes that Favreau took out the first time around made it into this one, while some potential highlights (like the "You complete me!" moment) got dumped.
For example, in the original filming Rhodes was shown fighting alongside Tony when the bomb goes off and he gets captured in Afghanistan. So somehow Tony got snatched out right from under Rhodes' nose while Rhodes was ok. Would have been a plothole, but thankfully Rhodes got cut from the battle completely in the final cut.
Then there's a big sequence where Tony stages his attack on the terrorists in Golmira a vacation home in Dubai, then is found by Pepper the next morning laying amongst his passed out party goers in his shot up Iron Man armor. He looks at her with a drink in his hand and sullenly demands "Get me out of here." (would have been another plothole--how'd he get the armor there and how'd the guests not see him?). This thankfully got replaced with the great "You've got to admit this is not the worst thing you've caught me doing" scene.
Then there was a scene shot where Rhodes intervenes in the Iron Monger battle and saves Tony's life by crashing Tony's car into Iron Monger's foot. Tony just chews Rhodes out for crashing his car like a little bitch and flies away. Would have been a MAJOR fail if it'd made it.
Whatever influence kept that stuff OUT of the final cut appears to be missed here. You trim out the "Tony's dying" stuff, put in some more upbeat moments between Tony and Pepper (like "You complete me."), and maybe give BW some scenes where she's shown actually seducing Tony to further the supposed "love triangle," etc. and the movie's improved considerably. -
Putting in more jokes and amping up 'the love triangle' is the kind of thing you expect to hear from studios. I'd rather have what we got, thanks.
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May 09, 2010 4:34:13 AM CDT
Also, lets not forget that nasty business at the Senate hearing.
by lashlarue
Apparently, helping North Korea and Iran get advanced technology that the U.S. Government doesn't posses is not considered a crime. You know the Axis of Evil. I guess Justin Hammer wouldn't be considered a traitor for that.
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Just that in the final cut, it was basically not there. Without a love triangle or SOMETHING to do, BW has no reason to be in this film. All of her scenes were just unnecessary and tacked on. Even her lame fight.
More jokes wasn't the point of the "You complete me" scene. The point was to have more interactions between characters early on where they actually seem to care for each other. As it was, Pepper is an unlikeable bitch for pretty much the entire movie and Tony/Pepper never show much chemistry. A little moment like that would go a long way towards establishing the dynamics of their relationship and how important she is to him. -
Zardoz, this is a trick of the eyes? Pretty good trick...
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I think that's the point. Tony exposes Hammer as a traitor, but nothing is done about it because Hammer has the Senate bought and paid for. Hell, later on he's even shown playing golf with Sen. Stern and talking about how excited he is. "I might even get laid!" That didn't bother me as a plothole.
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May 09, 2010 4:50:13 AM CDT
Why isn't the Vanity Fair reporter more interested in Hammer?
by lashlarue
I mean, he was just caught developing weapons for Iran and North Korea. Seems like that would be a bigger story than Tony refusing to give up his suit. Why is Pepper Potts made C.E.O. of Stark Industries? Wasn't she just his personal assistant? That's a hell of a promotion. How do they make money if they don't sell weapons anymore?
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They don't explore it, really, but the stupid Bill O'Reilly cameo points out that people think Tony's insane for appointing his personal assistant as the new CEO. I think the company is supposed to be making money from selling energy and environmentally friendly technologies that Tony and Pepper mention earlier in their first scene together. Yeah, this is all a stretch, but at least the movie doesn't totally gloss over it.
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May 09, 2010 4:57:21 AM CDT
BTW, in real life, all the arms manufacturors develop weapons fo
by jsarnold513
US weapons tech is sold directly to our enemies, the Chinese build components for our high tech figher jets and defense systems, etc. That already happens and is well documented. Nobody does anything about it. That's why I don't think it's too implausible to think that Hammer, who's cosy with the Senators, would weasel his way out of this somehow.
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She fucked Stark and is still drawn to his magnetic personality. Everybody's obsessed with Stark as a real life public superhero, in fact, and it doesn't have much to do with the actual "why doesn't he turn over the suit?" stuff. Hammer's just a boring douche with no mystery. She could find out everything she wanted to know about Justin Hammer from talking to him for 10 minutes and doing a little bit of digging. Tony Stark is far more intriguing a subject for an interview.
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How did Tony know where to find Pepper when everything explodes at the end .We re supposed to believe that somehow in 10 seconds he knew she had stayed behind while he didn t have any contact with her.......and there was no tension at all in this scene ....lame
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I see this over and over again in the earlier TBs, but exactly how was Whiplash sympathetic as a villain? Because he's been through some hard times? Because he works for a clueless asshole? Because his only goal is to stand up to Tony Stark just to show it can be done, even if countless people die in the process? Rourke did a fine job with what he was given to do, but he really didn't have much in the way of backstory or character-driven scenes to work with--he really only gets about 5 scenes, total and 2 of those are fights. I guess people just want to cheer for the guy now...
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Good observation. Did he imbed a tracking device in Pepper's ass at some point? I'd have liked to see him flying around for about a minute going batshit crazy trying to find her, but instead he gets about 10 seconds and just swoops over and carries her away without problems. No tension, like you said. It's like this movie was afraid to delve too deep into the emotions of any character. Everything is right near the surface to keep it from being weighted down, but there are times when weight is a good thing.
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Ivan joined forces with an Arms manufacturer.
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May 09, 2010 5:41:01 AM CDT
lets see, there was MSNBC, CNN and FOX News? all in the same mov
by dioxholsterreturns
am i the only one who thought that was weird?
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see how dumb that is
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Yeah, I'll be watching this on dvd sometime in late August, early September. Whenever it hits Netflix. Otherwise, it sounds kinda lame and whatever.
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Wow. Stupidity reigns in this talkback. 1. Only an ignoramus would compare IronMan to Batman. Don't have time or energy to expound--figure it out. Besides, the dark night sucked. Sucked badly. 2. Whiplash didn't kill stark at monaco because he wanted to make him suffer like he has. Didn't anybody else see the title sequence that set this up? Didn't anybody else watch the acting and hear the dialogue of Mickey Rourke throughout the movie that outright said as much? If you leave to take a leak, yer gonna miss something. Try pissing in the jumbo soda cup that you chugged during the trailers. 3. Pepper was a bitch? Was pepper a bitch to you or to Tony? Cuz if she was a bitch to you, I'm gonna have to talk to her. Yes, pepper was a bitch. That's called complicating the story lines. It is how you create conflict and interest in a movie. If EVERYBODY in a movie is nice and behaves exactly as YOU want them to, then it would be one buttugly waste of time. They could have had her repeat her lines from IM1, would that be better for you? 4. What's up with the bird? Good Gravy, People! Does ANYBODY relate to movies as a fucking artform or do you imbeciles think they are real? Rourke has learned a thing or two about how to build a character. The best badguys are badguys that you can relate to or even admire on some level. When he shows love for his pets you relate to him because you probably like pets too. Then when he does something repulsive you get to swing waaaaaay out there. The jolt is bigger. The closer you get to him when he's nice, the further away you travel to get away from him when he's bad. Get it? Doubt it. 4. Yes, Rhodes flew off with a suit and nobody stopped him. Jerk your head out of your ass. It was discussed in the movie that there are safguards in place to prevent this but THEY WERE NOT USED. Do I have to hand this one to you too? Stark thought he was dying. Maybe he wanted someone he trusted to know something about the suits? Maybe he faced up to his personality flaws and a small part of him felt that the government SHOULD have some control? Maybe he knew trouble was brewing and he was ill and would need some help? Maybe he saw how upset his friend, Rhodes was and wanted to help him? Now, YOU make one up. it's easy. 5. How did Rhodes know how to use the suit? How did you know how to ride a bike or drive a car? It is a battle suit. In battle you can't be thinking about what switch to flip or how to cross over the circuits. Stark streamlined it to either operate off brain waves or thru ultra intuitive controls. They pitched the idea of the film Rhodes Learns To Fly. It was 2 hours of him reading the user's manual. Didn't get the green light. 6. fatjesuschrysler, you haven't seen the movie but you posted a review? Take steps to ensure you do NOT procreate. You HAVE to do this for the team. 7. Nobody was killed. You should have compensated by killing yourself immediately after the screening. Who gives a shit if a death was PORTRAYED on the screen or not? Answer: Nitwits care. 8. All they are doing is setting up the Avengers? These movies are called comics adaptations. They are inspired by COMICS. Anybody who reads comics knows that they cross reference, cross polinate and overtly advertise other aspects of their fictional universe. It makes financial sense in comics. It makes financial sense in films. Cope. 9. Yes, yes, yes, there is an new Inception trailer. Thanks aplenty to the scores of piltodowners who posted that to a talkback about IronMan.
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CptCryBaby, though, I have to say you did a great job of defending your point of view. The first one just had a stronger flow of events, one naturally leading to the next. This one felt disjointed, and some little things did bother me. (Didn't mind the parrot bit at all, and I thought Rockwell did a great job.) But, . . . The self-aggrandizing fight scene for the director (making M. Night seem reserved by comparison). ScarJo's needless fight scene (Whiplash was going to get in his big suit and go after Tony anyway, so even forcing him to leave his computers isn't really a good effect of her cute little ass-kicking sequence). This last one's a minor complaint, but they really should've stuck with the trailer-intro of Pepper kissing the helmet then chucking it out of the plane, with Tony giving the Jerry Maguire line as he jumps. A lot more fun than just perfunctorily leaping out of the plane. I understand why they opted for the more straightforward opening, but still.
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this is a movie not a comic book! we judge it under that merit!
dark knight definitly did not suck and any one who says that i cant take seriously. you say whiplash wanted to "annoy" tony stark and thats it? what hes Tony Stark's playground bully? HA! fuck you CptCrybaby shitface you buffoon ieven if thats the case, that coulda be the weakest motivation for a villain to become a villain. -
but hey CptCryBaby thinks hes cooler than the Joker in TDK, so what do i know right! lol suck my dick man.
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Do you? He got raped by a woman? Not ringing any bells.... It was in The Rookie and he was raped by Sonia Braga. It's a pretty hot scene for a film with no nudity.
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Hollywood (actors, directors, writers, etc...) need to understand...that what makes such movies REALLY successful is in getting the audience to believe, while within context of an artful reality. Where you draw the line of exaggerating reality is a line that you live or die by, in creating a product for the masses. Though in his own way, Rockwell was entertaining and amusing in how he portrayed Hammer (in that sense, , I find it to be a detriment to the movie. His portrayal actually drains some of the tension and energy away, unfortunately. We actually WANT to build the tension and energy, within the story. We, as an audience, need that contrast for a more gripping finale.
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fuck it --Can't even do this shit
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Can't roll with you on that one. I don't understand the need to knock one down in order to lift another up. Loved IM 2 will see it again in IMAX next.
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if they didnt have him the movie wouldve been an epic fail, if not already.
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While Rockwell was entertaining and amusing as Hammer (in that sense, deserves credit), I find it to be a detriment to the movie. --It can drain tension and energy, which is needed for a powerful conclusion. Even so, I think this movie is quite good.
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...and you get asked to name a movie where a man gets raped by a woman, now you know. Clint Eastwood gets raped in The Rookie. Antwoine Fisher is another, but that was a boy, not a man. Then I think there are some scenes in Monster that qualify as male rape, though I haven't seen it for a while so I would have to double check that. So, go with the Rookie. It's your safest bet, and a pretty darn hot little scene if you ask me.
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dioxholsterreturns, If my screenname wasn't so dumb, I'd make fun of yours. Now, I'm wondering if you even saw the movie. Pay attention, Dimwit. Whiplash's father helped Stark's father create the arc reactor. Then Whiplash's father got cut out of the deal. One family went on to build a technology empire in america that was handed down to its heir. The other family was cut out of the deal and destroyed. The father was banished to exile in siberia and the son was forced to leverage his knowledge into a life of crime resulting in horrific imprisonment. Whiplash's father speaks these words about Tony Stark to his son: "That should have been you." Now, to me that seems like pretty good motivation to become a superbaddie and exact revenge. Are you keeping up or should I slow down? How about a bigger font? Ok to go on? Whiplash does not want simply to kill Stark. That's a few seconds of pain balanced against the agony of two tortured and ruined lives. Like all good bad guys he wants to savour the experience. When he attacks Stark at the track he takes an almost cavalier approach. He's toying with Stark. In fact, I got the faint impression that he WANTED to get caught. Whiplash is a pretty capable guy. He probably felt he could escape a U.S. prison or simply bide his time and make stark pay later. He also wanted to defame stark which in many ways would be a bigger victory than defeating him physically or killing him. These concepts are a bit nuanced and I can see how they might get past your minimal sensibilities. Did any of that land at diox airport? I can try again and use smaller words if you'd like. I think what you're really mad about is that I bagged on your precious batman movie. The Dark Knight--I didn't know a turd could actually go through the gate of a projector. Sorry BM fans. I'm also a BM fan. Lot's of comics, seen all the movies. Bale has GOT to go and take that stupid growling with him. There, I said it.
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I do credit Rockwell for an amusing performance. However, I argue that it drains tension. Imagine Jeff Bridges' character (from the original IRON MAN) in his place. Proves my point, doesn't it?
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Was it in Paltrow's contract she couldn't be overshadowed by Scarlett's more stunning figure? Nice ass shots, but come on!!
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and out.
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cause at the end of Incredible hulk stark approaches ross about the avengers initiative, but at the end of iron man 2 stark doesn't seem interested in any sort of shield operation.
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Will have a longer finale fight scene. It did come off as an "efficient" way to end whiplash. Of course this movie is five times better than other movies that have gotten some much hype you'd think the reviewer blew a load in his pants. It COULD have been better, but it was a lot of fun as is.
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SOOOOO DeaD!
Stark invincible in the IM suit is a reasonable suspension of belief.
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That's the most unintentionally funniest thing I read on this site today.Way to go, Omni. :P
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If you look during the final scene that features Nick Fury asking Stark to be a consultant you'll see that the floating television screen shows news footage of the college campus Rampage in the Incredible Hulk as if it had just happened. So Iron Man 2 takes place just before and during the Incredible Hulk's events. Stark's conversation with Ross is his first act as the Avenger Initiative's consultant.
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Talk to your friend during the boring parts? Do that when I'm behind you and I'll kick your head with my shoe. Hard.
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Now that I think of it, didn't it take Tony awhile to learn to fly in the first movie? But maybe the technology was different enough that the suit Rhodes got was easy to use.
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Holy shit that just made up my mind to see this movie again
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But I think IM2's main problem was too much plot, not enough time to tell it. I thought most of the movie was great, but it suffered from narrative flow. It was too convoluted. If it had maybe 20-30 extra min, the film wouldve had enough time to explore all of the story. Other than that, a really great popcorn flick.
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and loved it. It didn;t seem as fun as the first one, but this addressed serious issues with Stark being Iron Man. I felt that for all the build Scarlett was underutilized, but she was hot. Everyone in the cast was pitch perfect, it was no "Empire" but it was pretty F'N good.
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good movie but first 1 was better
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"You're dying," replies the government.
"Oh, OK, I'll 'give' the suit to the military, but only if I can pretend not to. Oh, and, and, I want to piss in it first, because the fanboys on AICN have been asking how I manage that."
"Happy, you're going to get us killed driving the wrong way during the Grand Prix!" screamed Pepper Potts.
"Nah, they'll get into the other lane right before all these blind turns. You just gotta have faith."
"You're so money."
"Um, what's that you're putting in your pocket?," asks the soldier.
"Mind your business, and that's an order," answers Rhodes.
Later...
"OK, we've got all our big guns on it. Now how's it going to work?"
"I'll take care of that," answers Rhodes.
"Um, what is that you're taking out of your pocket and plugging into our new weapon?"
"Mind your business, and that's an order."
"Technology will solve all the world's problems."
"Yay! That's AWESOME! Do you mind if we ask how?"
"We'll create a new element!"
"Yippee! What will it be good for?"
"Um, it'll replace palladium, so no superheroes will ever have to suffer from palladium poisoning ever again."
"Hey! That's super! Um, was that a problem before?"
"Uh-oh. Hammer's a real lose cannon. I hope he doesn't do something terrible up onstage," worried Pepper Potts.
"Well, you gave him permission to be up there. Don't you have any idea what his presentation is about?"
"You don't have any idea how busy I am! I'm trying to run a company! I don't have time for little details!"
"Well, whatever it is, I'm sure it'll be harmless. It's not like he could've moved a couple dozen, giant weapons under the stage without anybody knowing about it or calling it to your attention."
"The result of this report determines that Iron Man will be perfect for The Avengers, but you will not be."
"That doesn't make sense. What does that mean?"
"That means, Robert Downey, Jr., you give us any grief about what we want you to do in The Avengers movie we'll just CGI the suit in or re-cast you. I just saved the company $10 million, right there. That's why I'M the leader. You got that?"
"Be ready. There's another one coming in. It has a different signature than the others," warns the chick in hot tights.
"Is it Stane? I thought Stane was in prison," asks the one in red and gold metal.
"It's not Stane. It's Whiplash."
"Who's Whiplash?" asks the one in silver metal.
"Vanko."
"Vanko calls himself Whiplash?"
"No, nobody calls him Whiplash."
"She just called him Whiplash.""It's Vanko, in a suit."
"With whips?"
"This conversation has already lasted longer than the whole fight will."
"The drones are bombs!"
"Nuclear bombs?"
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Please tell me you have some serious money invested in this film. To defend it the way you have...you sound like a suit. Maybe the film is this way because of your "notes"? No offense intended. I like suits. Great for weddings and funerals.
But consider this: Even Downey has problems with the film. In the recent Rolling Stone he intimates that the film did not live up to his expectations, he did not enjoy making the film, and even added cryptically that making the film provided him with the biggest / most important lesson he has learned in movies. He wold not expand on what he meant (so nothing good) which considering he was doing press for the film indicates that he wanted to remain professional about it without trashing the thing outright. -
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His role didn't have to be deep and Fury didn't have time for Tony's bullshit. Yes, he did seem rushed but he was supposed to. He had the Hulk shit going on, and even though he didn't say it implied it, whatever is happening with Thor is also going on. So he didn't really have time to be involved, he just had to set Tony Stark straight.
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Ok, so Cap's shield? Howard Stark helped create shield in the 50's so I'm assuming it was a discarded prototype shield laying around. I'm pretty sure that Captain Amrica is safely frozen somewhere. Also, the little kid wasn't at a weapons expo, it was almost like Epcot, a celebration of tomorrow, the future so that was fine. I really, really want to see THOR by the way haha. I liked the Incredible Hulk footage at the end of the movie too. Nice way to set the timeline. Also, the whole Tony jumping out of a plane? Why would he do that? Why would he drive an F1 race car? Why would he get drunk and dance to Tupac in the Iron Man armor? He's just a crazy dude.
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Overanalysis.
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Overanalysis.
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That was two words. Ahhh, you get the point.
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how do you think this thing will affect the Avengers movie?
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I loved the movie, awesome action, amazing visuals, I liked a lot the build up for the Avengers movie, all these little easter eggs are cool. The best of the movie: Mickey Rourke, such a great villain and acting. Loved IM1 and IM2 waiting for the next one!!!
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I fell asleep in the middle of this one. Not really a very interesting story or characters. And I don't care for action sequences galor, so it wasn't that. Speaking of action... how lame is the sequence where Scarlett and the director (who shouldn't have cast himself in it!) walk in and she fights all the poeple in the most lame cliche lo-fi sped up motion effect?
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'Iron Man 2' soars with $133.6M: http://tinyurl.com/29ky925
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May 09, 2010 12:19:27 PM CDT
Yeah "action" of Scarlett is the reason why guys needs RAMBO!
by hollywoodhellraiser
Its mind boggling to hear some "geeks" call that hallway brilliant! WTF?!?Please rent RAMBO or even the Rundown and know what REAL action scenes consist of!Go rent a Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, or Bruce Willis(DieHard) and know what REAL action scenes consist of!Please don't ever equate that hallway scene(or anything in IM2) as brilliant or I might come to your house and beat your ass!
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The first times Rhodey wore the armor was when Tony was too drunk to do so and Rhodey put it on. There was no 'specially built' suit. In fact, after a while, Rhodey began developing headaches because he didn't realize that the suit was operated by brainwaves and his didn't match Tony's. Much, much, later after Tony dried out and reclaimed the Iron Man mantle he built the War Machine armor specifically for Rhodes.
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It's made $273 million worldwide. In TEN days. That's almost half of what the first made in total. And the budget was $200 million. So it's doing great guns so far.
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hahaha
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I guess you'll want to beat me then. Brilliant film.
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Just kidding. Not even your dad would tap that ugly ass these days.
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May 09, 2010 12:28:14 PM CDT
Iron man 2 brought home the hobo's baggage at the box office
by bathman
133 million, damn i bet paramount wishes they could keep this franchise a little longer
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and dont forget that the studio gets half the money from the ticket sales.so until now their profit is 136$ dollars which mens the movie must have a tremendous word of mouth in order to be considered a hit.and since the reaction is mixed i doubt it.
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And you're a 'brain surgeon' who has no idea what the term 'flop' entails. It's made back its budget. Within ten days. And will likely double it within the next twenty.
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It's already made MORE than the budget. Even if you hawk the budget up to $250 million. And it's only just opened.
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the movie has not made back its budget YET.just give it one more week and we will see.
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Yes. It has. It's made $273 million WORLDWIDE. I see the budget as $200 million. You see it as $250 million. Either way, it has MADE back the budget and then some.
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owners,the rest go to the stuido you know the guys who actually paid 250$ to make the movie.which means 250-135=115$. yeah they got their budget back all right.ROFL.
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yes the studio does not get every cent from the Box office, but WORLDWIDE iron man 2 has already brought in 327 million (there are other places in the world besides America). Paramount's current deal with Marvel films allows them to clain 8 percent of the world wide box office, which means Paramount has already made 26.1 million in just over a week. and considering that paramount didn't not fund the entire 250 million dollar budget it's safe to say that everyone involved with this film is going to make some nice coin by the end of the summer
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and still have room in there for both a cheeseburger triple sandwich with fries and a KFC double down double.
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read BlueLando's post above mine.Besides 26.1 is not the pure profit,its the mixed income.the pure profit will start after Paramoun/Marvel/and whoever else,has gotten the money he bushed for the movie BACK.jesus guys where did you learn your economics?
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How many action films can claim to have as great a soundtrack. And Scarlett in tight outfit - good enough for me :)
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Thats according to boxofficemojo, whom i think i trust more then a greasy talkbacker
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120$.where did you see the 194$? !!!
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Theater owners don't get 50% of the box office. More like 20%.
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BoxOfficeMojo.com clearly states foreign box office is $194 mil.
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Omninus a flop is a movie that not only fails at the box office but also gets critically panned. Right now IM2 is running at 75% at Rotten tomatoes, not as good as IM1's 92% but still good. From a box office perspecitve it is outpacing IM1 significantly and will make the studio tons of money regardless of whether the budget was 200 million or 250 million. The movie has already made at least 327 million worldwide and made at least 35 million more than IM1 domestically to this point. From a worlwide perspective IM2 will make upwards of 700 million worldwide, more than IM1 and make lots of money for Marvel. So the bottom line is that you not liking a movie does not make the movie a flop, my man me doth think you have delusions of grandeur. Also your math sucks.
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SPOILERS !!! - Saw IM2 last night. Overall, I enjoyed it. It wasn’t quite as good as the first, I thought, but it was still pretty entertaining. However, oddly, I found myself thinking that the whole was less than the sum of the parts. There were lots of things that, considered singly, I liked… Downey was great, Rourke was a lot of fun, thought the “Black Widow” sequences were good (brief, but good), enjoyed “Nick Fury”, thought Rhodey came off well…and yet…when put all together…just felt like ‘something’ wasn’t quite meshing.
A couple things, in particular…
(1) NO SENSE OF MENACE : Overall, I just never felt that Tony Start/Iron Man was ever really pushed. Justin Hammer was, for me, a major disappointment – an ineffectual buffoon. Not only was he not quite Stark’s equal, he was a clown who appeared to be woefully incompetent. When he was called in to “trick out” the stolen armor, in a sense “creating” War Machine, it seemed far more likey he would totally screw it up. When the drones were in pursuit of Stark, I never had a sense he was concerned, at all, and when they finally “cornered” Stark and Rhodes, the drones were totally harmless, despite all the talk about “kill boxes” and such. Whiplash, both in Monaco and at the end, was a bit more of a match for the heroes, but only a BIT more. Just saying… you know IM is going to “win in the end”, its expected, but you hope that on the way, there would be some sense of suspense or danger.
(2) BAD FIGHT CHOREOGRAPHY: Amazing how difficult it appears to be to find someone in Hollywood who knows how to shoot a coherent fight scene. The race track scene was well executed, but much of the other action was hard to follow, confusing, hectic, dark, frantic.
(3) TOO MUCH SPOILAGE – The movie had a lot less action than I expected, and virtually every major action scene was detailed in the various trailers, stills, etc. There was almost no action I hadn’t already seen, without even trying. For a movie with a modest amount of action, guess that is hard to avoid, but …
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You REALLY suck at math.
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That means that 3/4ths of the critics liked it and on fan ratings it is coiming in around a B average. While it is true netiher is as good as IM1 it is still very respecatle and means most people like this movie. Therefore again laying waste to your flop comment. Love to argue with you more but I am on my way out the door. Have a good one guys and gals will be back to post more later today.
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Actually, theaters and distributors can get as much as a 50% of the cut of the box office results, depending on deal and which country we are talking about. If i'm not too mistaken, the only way a studio can negociate a better deal with the distributors is if the movie has an enourmous anticipation from the public that the studio can level that agaisnt the distributors. But most of the time, it's the studios who have the worst part of the deal, and their cut can be as low as 50%. In foriegn markets it can get worst, so much so that for small countries the studios decide to pre-sale it, based on projections and the american box office.
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I loved the film. But quality aside, I don't see how anyone can call it a flop after ten days worldwide and less than five domestic.
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IRON MAN 2 is neither the masterpiece some claim, nor it is a piece of shit. It's a good movie. It's a lightweight piece of entertaiment with many moments of good comedy, some thrilling action stuff, and an interesting lead actor in Robert Downey Jr playing a great character who meets his match in his most important co-star, Gweneth Paltrow, who they have a great onscreen chemistry. I was entertained, and the movie was everything i though i would get. I was not expecting the second coming of christ, i completly dismissed the hype surrounding it, i was expecting a movie as good as ther first, and that's what i got.I'm starting to believe i'm one of the fews who enjoyed the movie for what it is.
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... is deluding themselves. It will make bank, that's a fait accompli. If you want to defend or bash the movie, use other arguments other then box office. I mean, who the fuck are we, movie geeks or accountants?
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I've seen it twice and it did stand up... but ultimately, it's a great movie. Not really a great film.
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May 09, 2010 1:23:20 PM CDT
IM 2 won't be a flop but its not a record-breaker either!
by hollywoodhellraiser
You can bet your ass the studios expected a bigger payday and with that their disappointed.They will make another sequel but hopefully nixed Justin as screenwriter! This guy can't write shit!And lets hope someone recast Rhodes and Scarlett sometime in the future! Bite the bullet and recast before its too late!
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You do realise the cast improvised most of the dialogue, right?
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"I need a particle accelerator" says Tony..."I'm sure I can build one in a few hours!"
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"I need to turn dozens of empty suits into fully functional robots" says Vanko..."I'm sure I cand do that in a couple of days!"
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a 7/10 is not good,mediocre yes but good no.Do u buy videogames that they score 7/10? i dont think so.
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May 09, 2010 1:31:04 PM CDT
Wish they would have built War Machine up a little better
by bass ackwards
As it stands War Machine came about because Rhodey thought a party was getting out of hand. The whole movie felt a little lazy, or rushed actually. Also, did anyone feel like signing him up for The Avengers as a "consultant" means we'll be seeing RDJ as a cameo in that movie, rather than a character (probably lots of CGI Ironman, little of RDJ).
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Officially replaces, "Do you know what happens to toads when they get struck by lightning?"
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i liked how dialogue overlaped and how Mickey rouke had few lines but said everything he needed too (i always felt jeff bridges overtalked in the first film)If the film had any issues it was pacing and editing particulary in the second act, i still say favreau desperetly needed an iron man mission somewhere just before nick ury shows up, just some minor weapon mission to some middle eastern country or something, the whole middle section felt too "talky" and i'll admit i was a little bored and it was kinda like that poochie episode of the simpsons - when do they get to the fireworks factory!
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"No one in the entire world knows I am secretly entering this race on an impulse" says Tony..."Good thing I prepared for this moment for the last six months" says Vanko.
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Jon Favreau just said on yahoo movies, that Mandarin and his ten rings may be the next baddie for Iron Man.. cool
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Omnibus is an idiot. The very core of the adage - a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.
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If a video game's gameplay sucks, that's a technical flaw that makes the game more frustrating for the player. Flawed jumping mechanics or bad A.I. is not subjective. Hence the reason most video game critics will agree if a game sucks. You generally won't get widely varying opinions on video games. Not so with movies. So, not only is your math off (even your 7/10 math is inaccurate btw), but your comparison is irrelevant.
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I hope he has his rings. I read an interview excerpt of the director somewhere and he called the rings magical and wondered if they would really be rings in the movie or if they'd be something else. But I thought in the comics the rings were alien technology from a crashed spaceship.
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7/10 i call good but not great. And reallty, what kind of self indulgent times we are living when we can piss on good movies. We don't have the luxery to piss on good movies. Not in this era dominated by movies like TRANSFORMERS 2.
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Favreau, you blew it bigtime. At least Raimi made 2 good Spidey movies before doing the crash/burn thing. It was a monumental failure of Spidey 3 and Godzilla proportions.
- What a waste of talent. Every A-list talent here - and there are more than a few - completely hobbled by bad dialogue, bad direction and bad editing. Rockwell's worst performance ever. Paltrow wasted. ScarJo - nothing of substance in her performance. And barely 1 minute of Black Widow action, which was poorly shot and punctuated by a fucking quip from Fav himself. Stupid. Jackson did a fairly good job ... UNTIL he spouted that stupid eye-on-you one-liner. Then he was Mace Windu shitty all over again. Rourke? Totally one-dimensional, just Rourke with a bad accent. Cheadle was just phoning it in.
- The attempt to be witty was endless and painful to watch. Slapstick gags and bad dialogue/ad libs. Iron Man dancing. It's like Fav never read a talkback and realized that dancing superheros were a bad thing.
- Endless chatter. Don't they realize we pay to see Iron Man do Iron Man stuff? How about some action that didn't take place in the dark? And more useless robots? I may as well watch Attack of the Clones.
The plot was just totally weak in every conceivable way. Justin Theroux wrote this? When did he become a screenwriter?
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Total horror.
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That would explain this mess of a movie! People talking over oneanother isn't a good thing.
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take that in your pants kick ass.
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I saw the same shot and thought the same thing as you did: where are his legs. Then, quickly at the end, you see the rest of his leg revealed. He's bent at the knee and falling back on his leg. I saw it in IMAX, so it might've been a little clearer for me. (But then again, I could be totally wrong. But I really don't think so. After all, he was walking around and climbing up and down ladders pretty well in the rest of the movie...)
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And to think that Kick-Ass, just a little while ago, was the flop of the year.Favrueu you did it pal,you really did it.
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Those legs hanging in the background while Danko is calling Stark were the legs of the two guards that Hammer had "protecting" Danko. (He killed them and hung their bodies from the ceiling. Get it?) Didn't you notice there were 4 legs, not 2? (or was the 2nd pair, a spare pair?)
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But somehow Favreue decided last minute to change this.i dont know why he did that.and another.noone has explained yet how Vanko survived the car crashing.i am watching the cam,and the car's bumper is hitting his legs,not his torso.so his equipment is not the reason he kept using his legs..
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Whiplash has legs!!!!
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Is that Iron Man 2 would have made more money charging a premium for 3D. Ugh.
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RDJ had an armor with lasers,Jon had only his fists.Jon is the real HERO.
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Pretty much a mess. Totally lacking the heart from the first one. The Pepper as CEO scenes were meant to be touching, but weren't. What happened to the fantastic chemistry between Paltrow and RDJ? Rhodey finally getting into the War Machine suit was under-whelming to say the least. An hey, how did he get out of that suit? It takes Stark like 6 specialized robots to do that. ScarJo's character brought NOTHING to this movie at all. A totally throwaway character. Wow, a hot chick beating up bad guys with wirework and slo-mo...that is really original. Pretty disappointing. It's funny...when I was young I couldn't wait for good movies to be sequelized. Now, I'm pretty much against it.
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May 09, 2010 2:52:54 PM CDT
Seriously, can ANYONE explain the "seals fighting over a grape"
by nasty in the pasty
It's one of the most perpexing lines of dialogue I've heard in a movie since "My boss is so cool that when he goes to sleep, sheep count HIM" from Heist. What does that even MEAN?!
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Tony Stark, on a whim, decides to drive in a Formula One race. No one in the world knows this. Except the person who put his racing suit in the locker room, like he asked them to. After prepping the racing suit, this suspicious, duplicitous Stark employee pulls his cell phone out of his pocket."Yah, dis es Vanko, Who es dis?""Um, I'm calling you to let you know Tony Stark is planning on entering the race at Monaco, today.""Yah? How do yoo know dis?""Um, it's in the script. Do you have a mechanics outfit and an extra pair of prosthetic legs?""Yah. Coincident, I ahm vearing a mechanic's zoot, und I ahm already in de stands at Monaco. How deed yoo get dis numbah?""Gheesh, you ask more questions than a fanboy on AICN. Can't you just sit back and have some fun?"
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May 09, 2010 2:58:34 PM CDT
Hollywood, please watch Superman II, The Dark Knight, and Spider
by jared_syn_city
Those movies made a little bit of money I think. The first movies in those series set up the sequels perfectly, especially with the 3 Kryptonians and the Joker card. These movies also raised the stakes. After identifying the powers / abilities of the hero in the first one, The lead character faces an even more threatening situation. Forces the character to come to grips with what it mean to be a true hero. Let's apply this to Iron Man 2. Vanko doesn't raise the stakes at all, and neither do the Iron Drones. The "Fatherly love" plot point was convoluted and silly. Remember how cool it was to watch Tony in the lab in the first one? Totally gone from this movie. Sam Rockwell is far too funny and quirky to be menacing. Nothing is raised in terms of action or drama in this sequel. Good sequels should raise the stakes in every aspect.
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Ouch... Your line of reasoning just hurt my head. 7 out of ten critics thought it was good. That means the majority thought it was a good movie. Your playing with fractions that have nothing to do with the statistics. Stupid hurtz buddy. Stop being stupid.
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He defends that crap Lick Ass bur burns a simple. fun, comic movie. Pity him.
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I dunno, the whole Tony dying thing raised the stakes for me a little bit, and his resulting out-of-control antics. I will give you that Vanko was beaten way too easily to be too much of a threat. Rourke is cool, but I wish he had put up more of a fight. Even Jeff Bridges put up more of a fight. That said, even though I knew Iron Man would come out on top, I still had a great time watching it. I don't need every movie to be dark and grim like Dark Knight.
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Tony stark was AT THE RACE already! The fact that he decided to actually DRIVE in the race was incidental. Whiplash would have attacked Stark up in the suite if he didn't race.
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that the intro is not about the super-hero showcasing his powers and saving the day? especially when you consider that in the IM movies,the hero reveals to the public who he really is and that he is going to use his powers to save the world?
In Superman 2,in Blade 2,in TDK (here we have the introduction of the Joker which is followed by the super-heroic intorduction of Batman),in Spiderman 2,in X-men 2 (the introduction of the awesome Nightclawerr),Transformers 2 and so on.
It really strucked to me as very strange,that instead of making one cool intro with IM kicking ass,making the movie to start with a bang,to give a satisfaction to the fans who havent seen IM since the last movie,and to prepare them for what other cool thigns lie ahead in the movie,INSTEAD we got a Russian mourning his father and making a suit and then RDJ falling from a plane and giving a speech for 20min.
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because there are no new interesting talkbacks and i was bored to death.yes the movie is not Flop,even if it was totally crap it would have been a hit since the first movie established a large fanbase.
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Asi: Good post and well aid.A Movie success shouldn't be judged on merely Box Office returns as oppossed to story,acting and of course direction.BSB:Wow, sorry you didn't like IM2, maybe the next sequel will include Zoey and by then, you will not be disappointed my friend.XDOminus:Kick-Ass is the flop of the Year?Wait until Prince of Persia comes out and then you can feel free to decide which is the bigger "flop".And for the record, K-A was good.:P
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I hear what you're saying but we don't want them getting any ideas! Yikes! It's GOOD to see a movie in 2D and save yourself the headache (and $3) every now and then...
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Although I find some of the critiques found on this talkback are well founded, I think the movie is entertaining enough for a second look. The one thing I've come to realize since I saw the movie on Friday, is that Rockwell's character is in the movie way too much and Rourke's not enough.
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Why does that bother you so much that we are introduced to a new villain right away? We saw a lot of Iron Man towards the end of the movie. Get over yourself.
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This move wasn't THAT bad. I still had a lot of fun both times I saw it. I think we're all nitpicking on it for the same reason we'll use any excuse to bust our friends' balls..
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the directors cut of DD was great. FF maybe needs a new sue storm (and i guess johnny storm,cuz now he's cap) but these marvel movies should always be able to crossover, these rights issues suck dick.
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May 09, 2010 3:17:23 PM CDT
For once i'd love a comic book movie where the hero is always in
by bathman
Can you imagine, i mean it happens in comics and graphic novels all the time, I'd love to see something like batman 3 take place only over a night and to have bruce always in the costume, it really worked for Arkam assylum (the video game) and that took place over a night or so. It would be awesome to see a director with the balls to do this, just drop all the alter ego/darm demon bullshit and give us 2 hours of the hero doing what he does best
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I agree, some movies don't need to be dark. Of the movies I listed, Superman II, Dark Knight and Spidey 2, only one is really dark... and that it really because it's the nature of the character. Tony dying, and then getting "temporarily cured" by a injection from Nick Fury took all of the drama and suspense out of it for me. If Tony is such a genius, how did he not know about the shot that Fury had? Anyway, I'm glad that you liked the movie, I'm not in the business of telling anyone whether or not they spent $10.50 wisely. My wife loved it and thought it was better then the first. I just sort of looked at her with a raised eyebrow and nodded. It wasn't Batman and Robin or Crystal Skull bad, but didn't improve on the original.
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If you're serious, the line about sheep counting him is a reversal of the idea of people going to sleep by thinking of sheep jumping over a fence into an ever-increasing group of sheep. This is seen in some old MGM cartoons. I took the seals fighting over a grape line to mean their heads were like seal heads struggling to eat a grape that was between their lips or in their mouths.
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re-read what i wrote if you please.
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Took my six year old son. He was bored in the middle, loved the beginning and the end. I liked it a little less than the original, my wife liked it more. The question of boys trying to please/avenge their fathers is powerful stuff. Mickey Roarke comes close to being the most realistic super-villain I've ever seen. Enjoyed it just fine. An old training buddy (not that I really "knew" him, but we trained at the same school) Jeff Imada did the fight design, and there was some BEAUTIFUL fluidity there. Sweet.
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Just to put in my two cents about who gets the box office. The theatres get a dollar maybe two for each ticket sold. Enough to cover the cost of bodies in the booth to sell the tickets. On big budget summer fare maybe even less. The theatres make their money selling popcorn and fountain soda for an arm and a leg. So the overwhelming majority of box office goes to the distributors/studios.
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It started with Ivan because he is an EXTENSION of both Tony and Iron Man. The opening scene shows us that Ivan could've been Tony if for a simple twist of fate. When he saw Tony at the press conference, it gave Ivan a purpose the same way the cave gave Tony a purpose. Whether it worked is relative, but a superhero film starting with the heroes doppelganger being created by the heroes existence is FAR more interesting than 'oh, Tony is being heroic.'
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Superman II opened with the villians escaping from the Phantom Zone and landing on Earth, and Spider Man 2 opened with Peter meeting Doc Ock at his lab.
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where is the heroic entrance of the super-hero protagonist after Vanko's intro? like in TDK? all the other genre sequels have this entrance,IM for some reason didnt have it.
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we got the heroic entrance of Superman saving the day.the same with TDK.why was this thing missing from IM2,especially when in this franchise the hero reveals his secret identity and his intention to be the peacemaker of the world? shouldnt be a scene to support this thing and improve the storytelling of the film,and also give entertain the fans with some kick ass action?
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You've implied that I'm attached to the film in some way. Not true. The only way I'm involved is as a ticket buyer who loved almost every damn minute of the film. In my opinion it was at least equal to or better than the original. You shouldn't put so much stock into what a finicky lead actor has to say about their film. Any actor that would do less than their best on a promotion tour should have the sense to simply stay home. On the first film it was probably looser as they broke new ground and Downey was able to control alot more. After the first one went big, i'm sure the $ was dumped in and then the money men get more of the say. This frustrates the A-listers and they whine a bit. Don't take it to heart. Look at the classic Bladerunner. Ford was very vocal about hating that film and look where it stands in the scifi canon.
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Yeah, but...WTF does it even MEAN saying someone is cool because sheep count HIM? It's been a decade since that movie came out, and I still have no idea what that line is supposed to mean. I know about counting sheep to fall asleep, but...WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?!?
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the intro was with Zod and his goons killing a soldier and stealing something.then they got trapped in the phantom zone.that was the intro.THEN we get the heroic entrance of Superman who stops the terrorists and sends the nuclear bomb to space,it detonates and releases Zod from the phantom zone.
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Wasn't near as much fun or as much action as the first one... Too much talk.
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Remember when they wanted to take over the world, re-arrange time, steal millions of dollars?Now, they just want to get the last word in on a juvenile "My Daddy's Bigger Than Your Daddy" fight.
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Movie theatre owners must return a percentage of the box office to the studios. Usually 70-75% for new films, that percentage drops the longer the film is in release. Long term most theatre owners say the average is about 55%, though some new films charge as much as 90% for the first week.
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Stark Expo? Stark giving a speech for 10 minutes after we see Whiplash build his power whips? Seriously BORING! What we needed was IM kicking the shit out of some rag-heads in Afghanistan, blowing the crap out of Osama and then Tony Stark being called on the carpet by the Senate. Then we get Whiplash and his origin. Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I realize that the movie really sucked!
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It's excellent! Harry is correct when he wrote "it hit's the sweet spot over and over" Those who say it's nothing more then a promotion for the Avengers are the same folk who through political sound bites around, they hear something and repeat it whether it's true or not. The Avengers sound bite is a perfect example of this, the proof being that it's hardly mentioned. It's eluded to that it's been in the back of Tony's mind, that Nick Fury was interested in his services. I give the movie a solid 3.5 stars out of four. As good as the first IM except for the "Wow factor of first impressions" but that is universal with everything.
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Zardoz = frustrated film maker.
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and 4 mil, which Kick Ass made, is considered a huge hit.
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And that's only after 3 days in the USA. Anyone who considers that a flop, is really bad at math. I just saw it again, and enjoyed it with an appreciative, sold out audience. Excellent fun!
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I agree with you that too many people went into IM2 thinking it was going to be the second coming and when the movie turned out to be good to great depending on your opinion some poeple were dissapointed. The biggest challenge here is that IM1 set such a high bar that Fav's didn't have a lot of room to go up. I strongly feel that IM2 was as good as IM1 just different and thoroughly enjoyed it and will be going again this week. However to Asimov's point you need to go into any movie sequel or not with realistic expectations. This was a great summer movie and way better than what we normally get from hollywood and especially from a superhero movie.
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Damn, I loved this movie. I was a little worried about it, but in the end it was the characters having a blast that saved the day. And it was a fun movie. Who didn't find the ending with Shandling pinning the medals on Tony and Rhodie completely satisfying. Is it the best action movie ever? No, but it was a fun movie.
My only beef at all was the missing scene from the trailers: where Pepper throws the helmet out a plane and Tony says, "You complete me".
What happened to THAT scene?
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Leaping out of the plane was quite an entrance. If you mean 'bad-ass action sequence', there wasn't one because Tony - as mentioned in the Senate Hearing - has dealt with most of the problems already. He thinks the world is safe, which is why he's so flippant. If you throw in a sequence where he's beating up bad guys, doesn't that neutralise the very point he's making?
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Was Garry Shandling talking to Ivan Vanko on the phone when he and Hammer were playing golf?
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Fuck the haters. Fuck them all to Hell. Oh, and Scarlet is hot.
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you are wrong.
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was that a response to me?
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I love the universe created by Marvel and I can't wait to delve into the new upcoming movies.
That said I must say that Iron Man II was a great and fun ride, but with every ride there are a couple of slow parts. SPOILERS ahead.
I mean by this the scenes:
1) Stark and Rhodes fighting in the house. Stark is drunk and they head off. They do a power move and they both shoot each other creating a wave in the middle of their shoots. This is only done to make it possible for them to defeat the russian at the end. Ahem
2) The element: Even Stark says it, that was easy. And why wouldn't Stark thought up that he needed Lideoncyclide or something (they give him that in the dinner).
3) Stark Senior was a genius. Ah ok so what are the odds your son sees your movie and actually doesn't swich it of? That is just lucky.
4)Tony Stark is a genuis. I get that. he is very smart and so on. But omg did everybody take a dumb me down pill? A guy like Hammer owning a weapons company that is consider a rivel to Stark? hahaha yeah right. It would be like a small town software designer going against Microsoft. The army needs guns bla bla bla, but why in Gods name would these chose Hammer? As is shown throughout the movie the guy is a dork to everybody. The evil genius he tries to control, Tony Stark, the army and even that reporter girl. He is like your retarded nephew that everybody treats nice, but as soon as he is gone everybody is happy. But Sam Rockwell did nail the part, that is true. I wonder who is behind the Hammer company. Maybe Iron Man III will start with an old man tinkering away with news reports about Justin Hammer getting arrested. He is of course Hammer senior and he will get back at Tony.
After all. If you change the pulse frequency everything is fine :-)
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So you want an Iron Man action sequence... and then him to go to the Senate Hearing and say 'we're safe. America is safe. I did you a big favour?' Because America isn't really safe if there's a threat to Iron Man.
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Ref was to Ominous. I'm sure other people have mentioned the action sequence thing, but they aren't being ominous about it.
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It was easy. Which makes me think it's a tie into Thor. He rediscovered the element, based on Asgardian science.
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For me the litmus tests will be ROBIN HOOD and INCEPTION. Then i'll know how good was this summer. But frankly, it can't be worst then 2009, which didn't had one single good movie for the summer.
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Oh wait...
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The level of hatred going on agaisnt IRON MAN 2 in hee is just mind boggling. Those who bash it, they must have seen a different movie then i have. Is the ameerican cut that different from the international cut i saw or something? This stuff makes no sense to me whatsoever. Or have i gone mad and this is actually a talkback about TRANSFORMERS 2 but for some reason i read the name of the movie as IRON MAN 2 instead?
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Exactly.
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No idea. People can dislike stuff. Just seems to be an extreme hate-on for Iron Man 2.
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Maybe it means he is peaceful. Or boring to the point of sleep-inducing. :)
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your personal experience and reaction with ST should suffice to answer your inquiry.
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...seriously... we have somethin magnificient in the works (the MARVEL UNIVERSE actually bein portrayed on film wit "good" cgi and actors we like), yet we're complainin because Tony didn't magically turn into a alcoholic... we (well not myself included, i mean you heiters) are a sad lot...
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His Justin Hammer was a copycat of Tony's cousin from the comics.
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Even though he's not really a jerk. He's just
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I give up. I was trying to say people take all the Tony being a jerk stuff way too literally, even though he's not really a jerk and is simply reacting that way due to dying. But it seems to confuse talkbackers when the hero acts like a jerk.
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It is hard to point out what you liked because other than the performances of Mickey Rourke and Sam Rockwell, Scarlett Johansen, and Don Cheedle everything that was good was good in the first one. It is easier to put out where they missed the mark.
I think my biggest gripe is that we don't see enough of the villians. I think in most superhero movies, the villians are usually more interesting than the superhero (see either Nicholson's or Ledger's Joker,Dafoe's Green Goblin, etc.). Rourke was in about 5-6 scenes or about 15-20 minutes of screen time. Rockwell was in a little bit more. The film could have definitely benefitted by more of their story. If they had lesser actors, this lack of screen time would have been seriously missed. At least both actors made the most of their limited screen time.
SPOILERS: Other issues were the power core killing Tony seemed a little jammed in there for a way to drive the plot than having a real point. There were a few scenes that were a bit over the top like the birthday party scene.
Don't get me wrong, I liked the movie but as I said it is easier to point out what was wrong than right. RDJ is still perfect for the role. His interaction with Gweneth Paltrow was still really good. It was still a fun movie like the first which works well as the counterpoint to The Dark Knight. -
At least we have Inception. 2010 won't be a total disaster.
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What the hell was that?????? Was that a huge face lift, or did he inject himself with an ocean of botox???
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right before she exploded in Cloverfield. Botox and fat don't mix!!!!!
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But I still wanted to give you guys my 2 cents. I liked quite a bit. It wasn't any better than the first one but it certainly wasn't any worse. Yeah the second act dragged a little but it afforded Sam Rockwell some scenery chewing time so the pacing issue was canceled out. The action was all staged better so that was an improvement. It worked on about the same level as the first but for different reasons.
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Comparing Lizzy Caplan and Gary Shandling? Why would you do that? Why? I... I don't even want dinner now.
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You're just fucking with us, right?Right?!?
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it didn't even look like him at all
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He is not a face I want to see on a IMAX screen.
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has already harmed one movie (IM2) and it will definitely affect negatively the forthcoming movies.its the stupidest idea in the film history and its going to fail miserably.
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Overall, very fun movie. Liked the tone, and the story. For those who said it got slow in the middle, it was a device to give us a little more insight to Tony's failings, frail health and re-focusing his activities a bit.
The few things that I thought were not done well;
- Wanted Pepper to scream and freak out less, and be more take-charge and call Tony on his BS more.
- Sam Jackson played Sam Jackson, not what I thought was gonna' be a fairly bada$$ Nick Fury. I was hoping to see him in a more 'Sphere'-like form of seriousness. Calling Tony on things was fine, but he seemed too flippant in the donut shop.
- Natasha was only there for eye-candy and wasn't anything more than annoying otherwise. Yea, she kicked some arse, but the lines they gave her diffused any bad-a$$ery they hoped to get. Saying less would have made more impact.
- Agent Colson. Again - he would have been the perfect, no-nonsense straight-man. But, they made him a bit goofy. The scene in Stark's lab when he said goodbye to Tony completely diffused him. Again, less is more.
It seems like all of the chances to have straight, no-holds-barred players were all diffused with comedy. Nick, Natasha, Pepper, Happy, Colson, Hammer...any of them coulda' been more serious, but all were diffused and took away any credibility.
And the after credits scene was a bit of a letdown. Neat to see what we saw, but sort of a 'meh' moment.
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As for the GI Joe comparison ... I hate to say it but I stand by it. Joe just flowed much better, had a cohesive story and despite having MORE characters than IM2, was able to flesh them out better. And the Paris sequence had more excitement and action than both IM's combined. Here's the thing though - IM1 was good. For me, as I believe for everyone else, it harkened even greater things to come. Then we end up with this chaotic mess. Just really disappointed. And glad Jar Jar Favreau is not associated with the Avengers.
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he beats some terrorist group and saves innocent lives in a cool action sequence,then he goes to the senate and he says: look i just captured another terrorist group and i saved hundreds of americans.so my word has merit.you can sleep safe mr senator,im will always be there to protect america from anyone as i have already proved for the past 6 months.
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holy shit, everyones over for this mothers day thing and i'm down in the basement getting another beer and my mom's best friend comes up behind me and tells me she wants to suck my cock, so of course i let her.Not iron man 2 related but holy fuck i had to tell someone
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Stupid concept, cheesy action, bad acting, what less could you want? If speed racer was and "F" GI Joe was a d-.
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the whole world likes circles better than triangles. damn Hollywood!
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bring back the circular light Fav.
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taste
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May 09, 2010 6:14:39 PM CDT
It's like Fav never read a talkback and realized that dancing su
by flyingtoupee
Except when Adam West does the Batusi with steaming hot Jill St.John.
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hilarious...what an idiot..can't even get his bullshit in any comprehensible order.
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Nobody answered my question yet: did it have a name? Was it Vibranium? Starkonium? What? 'Cause if they said it in the movie, I didn't hear it...
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IM 2 is a super pop epic. Witty, colorful and alive. Enjoyed it immensely. Would have had Rourke break into the main titles theme from the hunt for red october as he was about to blow though. Missed opportunity.
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Yeah, it was looking twice as big in IMAX, let me tell ya! I was worried it was going to explode all over Tony Stark at the end. Yikes!
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It's just a heartless silly piece of shit!
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Just like all the haters here.
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Snakes on a Plane and Kick-Ass bombed. If I were a filmmaker, I'd stay as far away from this place as possible. Majority talkback approval means nothing in the real world. The average audience rating for Iron Man 2 was an A.
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You do realize that it was Stan Lee playing Larry King. It was just Lee's obligatory Marvelverse cameo.
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There's no better way to avoid actually backing up your point of view and stay an anti-intellectual insecure assclown!
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damn anyone else looking forward to robin hood, it looks hella awesome and i love the way that guy says outlaw, like he really means it or something
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I'm sure you fuckers will eat it up.
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The way I figure it, the attack on the Stark Enterprises sponsored F1 race car was planned for the world stage (so-to-speak), to take place before television media. If you want to show the world that Tony Stark isn't the ONLY man who possesses such power, what better way to get the world's attention? As for Tony Stark driving the F1 race car when Whiplash attacks? Chalk it up to coincidence.
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It's explained in the movie. Stark was at the car race as a spectator, but decided to actually JOIN in the race when Hammer pissed him off. It was easily explained.
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I admit, this movie isn't as faced paced or fun as the first, but it's still a great addition. Like TDK, which some of you seem determined to compare it to, it could use a bit of editing and another action beat, but it's hardly garbage. I won't know why you people have such unrealisticly high expectations, but this is not a bad film. It's a good film, and I'm waiting for more. By the way, did it seem to anyone else that the cap shield was falling apart, or am I crazy? Prototype maybe? Anyone?
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i want Mandarin, AIM, MODOK
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Did Vanko know Tony was going to drive the car, probably not, but he knew Tony was there and if Tony was in the stands or a luxury box who would have gone after him there instead. It just looked cooler on the track so Fav's went that way. Yes he does have legs it is just as he is being dragged away intiially on the track that his right leg is bent under his knee but and then you see it come back out. Overall IM2 was really good and while I can quibble about a couple of things, the end Whiplash fight not being long enough, it was funny, had great action sequences, and some nice drama and Rourke was awesome in every scene he was in.
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tho I liked whiplash and hammer, the character didnt progress at all. Save for the fact that now he's "in a relationship" which is just out of character. and the whole "boo-hoo, daddy didn't love me" angle was lame.
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then how the shoe fell off in front of him since it was not touching the ground?
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There is no way in hell you were getting your dick sucked or pussy for that matter and you know what gave it away?? You still live in the fucking basement..
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That's why there's so much talk.
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Just saw IM2 today... noticed that in the credits they credit 4 people in the "based on comic books by" (stan lee, larry lieber, don heck, jack kirby) and then later in the "special thanks" they credit john byrne, the romitas, and a bunch more people, but snub steve ditko, who maybe designed the famous costume in tales of suspence 48. just the nitpickings of a nerd... loved the movie
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I never thought I would utter such words, but it was true for me! I sat through GI SHIT and I was actually entertained more!Plus The Baroness and Scarlett was 10X hotter than Black Widow, which is also another fact!Plus, Snakeyes and StormShadow did to action what IM 2 failed miserably at!Jon better move away from the table and get his fat ass in gear! And they better dump Justin ASAP, his writing sux ass!
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since you still refuse to leave this alone, let me (for the 3rd time) try to get you to actually logically and factually back up what you're saying. here's how you do it...here's my position:
-when they dragged Whiplash away, I believe he bent his legs back, instead of dragging them on the ground in front of him
-as he was dragged, he bumped into a shoe that was already sitting there (remember all the other cars/drivers he smashed?), and you can clearly see this if you watch the shot in slow motion.
-at no point does any shot show him losing his legs.
-in every other scene, he is walking normally.
-in no scene anywhere, is any type of prosthetic shown.
-if Whiplash DID have prosthetic legs, it follows that they would be a) quite advanced, since he's a scientific genius, and b) shown/mentioned/explained/hinted at in the movie
-no mention is made at any time of anything whatsoever to give ANY indication Whiplash has artificial legs.
-and if that wasn't enough, after Hammer takes his shoes off, a point is made to show us a shot OF HIS FEET, which are unquestionably REAL feet, and are covered in tattoos to match the rest of his body.
-in no way do we see any prosthesis of any kind in the shot, just normal human feet. the toes even curl slightly.
-this is a picture of Whiplash's feet:
http://yfrog.com/9gpicture2hap
therefore, I believe, after seeing his feet, that he has feet. (I can't believe that I have to write this, but whatever, I'm on a business trip in my hotel room and I have time to kill before Breaking Bad)
now, if after reading this, you HONESTLY still believe for some reason that Whiplash has amputated legs, I dare you to try to lay out your evidence as I have, and defend your position. AND REMEMBER, conjecture is not evidence. I'm not asking you to imagine some strange, nonsensical scenario from your (no offense) confused mind. I'm asking for FACTS AND EVIDENCE.seriously, at the very least, this will bring a chuckle to people here, so have at it, kiddo. please don't pussy out on this, I really want to hear it. -
Chance? Luck?You realize you guys aren't doing the script any favors with those theories, right?
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All he had to do was make a scene- attacking cars on the tracks or people near wherever Stark was. Stark would then, logically, arrive on the scene as Iron Man to face him- especially since we see he carries the Mark V around with him anyways. That Stark happened to jump into the race just made it easier for Whiplash to make his scene.
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Originally I thought Downy was all wrong for this role but the direction these films have taken justifies the pick. As far as the Batman comparisons are concerned, if you like procedural cop shows, you'll prefer the batman films, if you like Superheroes, you'll like Iron Man.
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The Justin Hammer I remember from the comics was NOT a barely-competent goofball like Rockwell portrays. He was a cunning badass - when he takes over IM's armor, he makes IM kill an ambassador of some sort, IIRC. Rockwell's version was JHINO, if ya ask me. An amusing character in the movie, which I enjoyed a lot, but he bared only a passing resemblance to the much more serious JH of the Marvel Universe...
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in the words of Vinnie Chase, #1 motherfuckers!
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What a bunch of maroons. Don't try talking that marketing cost bullshit either.
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ironman: chris evans
war machine: eddie murphy
nick fury: christopher walken
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One of their stars accidentally killed themselves too.
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She had time to do an Iron Man cameo?!!!
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..if the intent is to take a piss on a movie, they will do it from every angle...complain about every aspect. If there is a movie a hater likes (which YOU think sucks) then it's a matter of "taste", and parroting whatever Ebert said about it. It's all about the sociopathic need to piss on things...
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That's a good thing. Iron Man 2 is not as good as the first, and it has a problem that is the exact opposite of 99% of comic book films: It prioritizes character and humor over plot. The problem with that here was, I barely understood certain parts of the plot (Howard Stark, "the new element"). And once again, the villain pops up at the end in a tech suit and dies in two mins. The film's a lot of fun, and it's still better than all but five or six comic book films in cinema history. But it is flawed, and they needed to stop fucking around and tighten it up. Still, everyone was delightful. But Natasha needed her accent and Emily Blunt.
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May 09, 2010 10:58:24 PM CDT
Also, the diner scene epitomizes what Marvel movies should be
by reflecto
A juxtaposition of the everyday with ludicrous outfits, and somehow IT WORKED more than any other in-costume scene in any other shitty Marvel film. That is the aesthetic that should be incorporated into every other Marvel property, specifically the X-Men - balls to the wall crazy costumes combined with real settings and characters.
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May 09, 2010 10:58:40 PM CDT
Fuck you anyone who says "What did you haters want!!??"
by industrykiller!
What did I want? How about a cohesive story that builds on the world while delving deeper into the incredibly charismatic and decent but fascinatingly flawed psyche of Tony Stark and exploring how a guy like that comes to find himself as a man of incredible empathy rather than endless narcissism. How about compelling villains who actually get a moment to do something but scowl or laugh maniacally. Maybe some Marvel universe building that isn't shoehorned in there to cover a TOTAL lack of a second act. Or at least directing Sam Jackson to play the god damn character correctly. Maybe some moments to let the wonderful supporting cast shine with the great characters they were handed in the first film and not just annoyingly bicker and sneer at the main character the whole time. Or perhaps not have some arbitrary sickness thrust upon Stark that does nothing but distract from not only the meat and potatoes of the plot, but the character himself. Maybe more than ONE action sequence that resonates on any level, perhaps one that actually establishes an act of HEROISM from the SUPERHERO??
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It was good.
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That horrendous embarrassing party scene. That was Daredevil level awful.
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May 09, 2010 11:09:27 PM CDT
What retard thinks 133 MILLION OPENING WEEKEND is bad?!!!
by tall_boy66
Ack! I can't believe anyone can look at such an astronomical amount of money and say "HAH! SUCK IT!" Like, are you retarded or dropped on your head repeatedly as a kid? Jesus Christ!
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Whatever dude. You hate fucking everything. If IM2 had been perfect, you'd still be fucking bitching about something. The story was decent and it didn't overload you with shitty action. As far as sequels go it was pretty damn good.
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He was repeatedly dropped on his head when he was a kid, and is a bit slow. Which is one reason he keeps re-posting his incredible "one liners". Keep reaching for the stars little buddy! Your doing great!
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I told him he blew it, and he might as well man-up and take his lumps.
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Wow man, what a great comeback. Very compelling. Keep it up.
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sans whips. And Rockwell sucked.
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The worst action scenes I've witnessed in any comic book movie. The only exciting part was when he pulled out the red beams. Besides that, Favs failed horribly on the action. The drama was good, but it didn't build up to anything. And Warmachine was a waisted character. I'm glad Favreau isn't doing the Avengers. Marvel knew he didn't have the gravitas or directorial skill to pull it off.
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I liked the ending better when it was used in Predators. Also Gary Oldman doing Zorg is much better then Sam Rockwell doing Zorg.
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I couldn't of said it better myself. After Ironman 1 he got a big head, fired the first writing team, fired Terrance Howard, and threatened to walk if they didn't pay him more. Marvel needs to hire proven directors, not these 3 tier hacks like Joe Johnston, Loser Letterrier and John Favreau.
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Watch Elektra.
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The Iron Man vs. Iron Man fight, or Black Widow's ass kicking scene, or the entire bit of flying robots at the end fully refutes that statement.
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the "I visited a Russian prison" story from Rourke. It added nothing to his 10 line role. I really wouldn't have cared at all but every time he ran into any one it was like he had to tell them how far he went for this useless role. Kind of feel bad for the guy, he like doesn't realize when he can just phone it in, I mean RDJ did here. I guess it's not as bad as removing your two front teeth for a DTV "I'm gonna loosen you up before I give you the jackpot" Prison flick.
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Like what in the fuck was Fav's thinking? This sequel is reminding more and more of Revenge of Fallen. A slap stick comedy with a sprinkle of meaningful action.
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Seeing RDJ, doing a drunk guy WAY beneath his level of acting, with DJ AM, dancing int eh suit,a nd spinning hte turntable, is a sight I cannot unsee. It throws Fav's entire decision making process into question. It's the kind of thing that I would figure anyone would toss in the roughest of first drafts, but it was also clearly tailored to the lower end of Fav's specific sense of humor. I won't say toss him, because I know he's capable of so much more, but he HAS to be more discerning next time.
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Joss and say Avengers is gonna be the best shit ever.
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Just got back from seeing IM2 this evening. I do not recall that they gave the new element a name. And yes, it did look a little like a buckyball, when rendered. A new "Element" eh? Maybe the writer(s) were confused and meant compound? Or perhaps Allotrope, although I don't think Palladium is allotropic.
If they did mean chemical element, and without knowing what the role of Palladium (Pd) plays in an Arc Reactor, then one might surmise that Stark's Element would have to be chemically similar to Pd, i.e., another Group 10 element (this group is comprised of Nickel, Palladium, Platinum, and Darmstadtium). Darmstadtium is element 110. I'm guessing that the next Group 10 element would be Element 142. If 142 is physically possible, it probably wouldn't be very stable.
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Just got back from seeing IM2 this evening. I do not recall that they gave the new element a name. And yes, it did look a little like a buckyball, when rendered. A new "Element" eh? Maybe the writer(s) were confused and meant compound? Or perhaps Allotrope, although I don't think Palladium is allotropic.
If they did mean chemical element, and without knowing what the role of Palladium (Pd) plays in an Arc Reactor, then one might surmise that Stark's Element would have to be chemically similar to Pd, i.e., another Group 10 element (this group is comprised of Nickel, Palladium, Platinum, and Darmstadtium). Darmstadtium is element 110. I'm guessing that the next Group 10 element would be Element 142. If 142 is physically possible, it probably wouldn't be very stable.
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That's odd, I could have sworn I only pressed the button once.
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I really liked Downey's line of "gimmie a phat beat to beat my brother's ass with" as he laughed halfway through it, because it's very much a drunk thought and it's actually really sad that he's doing it but he's so blitzed by that point he thinks it's funny. Also that scene had Anya from Deal or No Deal (case #10!) throwing champange bottles in the air, and Anya is hot as fuck, so therefore it's the best scene cause she's in it.
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May 10, 2010 12:45:59 AM CDT
Party scene was NOT 'Demon". It was Tony getting drunk on birthd
by se7en
Which everybody does. HUGE difference.
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May 10, 2010 12:51:49 AM CDT
It's major weakness was taking the best of the first one -
by subtitles_off
the surprising chemistry between Downey, Jr., and Paltrow - and turning them into an annoying, bickering, sit-com couple.And, I'm telling you, that entire ending seemed written to explain their exit from this franchise."I'm quitting.""You're quitting?""Yeah, I can't take this anymore.""Iron Man should join The Avengers.""OK.""But you shouldn't.""Um, OK.""Can we have your buddy Rhodey's phone number?"Like I always expected, Iron Man is a one-note concept. They hit it out of the park the first time, but they didn't know when to leave well enough alone.
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WOW!!!
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I'll take it. Tony drinks too much, bad shit happens, he gets his shit together afterwards. Rhodes originally became Iron Man/War Machine because of Tony's drinking binge. Yes, it wasn't in Demon in a Bottle, it was afterwards, but the vibe is the name. "Me drink lots!" "Me become Iron Man because you stupid drunk!" See? Demon in a Bottle in 10 minutes.
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I loved this movie. Nuff said. The tie in stuff is brilliant. Hulk and Betty on the cliff in the rain. We pan to see a huge lightning bolt and what I now believe to be Thor's Hammer falling from it. At the end of Iron Man 2, Fury has to rush off and after the credits we discover that its because Thor's Hammer has been found. All the movies connecting together fracken rocks!
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Oh well, as long as you're just going to insert things wherever you want them to be, the film-makers don't really have to do anything. No wonder Favreau and Marvel think they can pass off a script so riddled with coincidences, plot holes, and laziness.
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You're not a hater. No, you're sadly just a guy who has such an egotistical opinion that you have to throw out a 'fuck you' post to anyone who dares disagree. Because you're always right, aren't you?
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Why would Mickey Rourke phone it in? He got a career comeback with The Wrestler. What possible logic would it serve for him to half-ass a film at this stage? He'd be back where he started.
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Iron Man 2 is good because you think I'm an asshole? That'd stand up in a court of law.And I'm more than justified in reacting to people throwing bullshit names out there because they don't feel like making an actual case for themselves.
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No, I'm just saying you're an asshole. You could be talking about any film, and I'd say you're an asshole. Because you don't just dislike a film, you attack people who do like it and try to goad them into putting across their take on the film just so you can attack them some more.
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Because I paid to see it twice. And am planning to go a few more times. I could spend hours justifying that to you, but what's the point. You're clearly looking for a fight in reference to the film.
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Not as bad as Spider-Man 3, but it was trying to be. The scene with Tony dancing in the armor made me cringe. There was not nearly enough "Iron Man" in the movie. The first scene...I thought we were going to see IM kick ass on some terrorist compound, but what do we get? The Stark Expo and some dancers with nice asses (didn't mind the asses though). And IM 2 was like Spidey 3 in another way...instead of letting the title character be the focus of the final battle, he gets a sidekick...Spidey got the lame Harry Osbourne on a flying snow board and Iron Man got the (cooler) but still unnecessary, War Machine. Why couldn't they just focus on IRON MAN???? These writers and directors need to figure out that the title hero is why people go to the movie...he doesn't need to share billing. Please God, don't let us see Captain America team up with "Bucky" in the final fight of that movie.
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Captain America and Bucky are a cert to team up. So I'd avoid that one if that thought horrifies you.
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forget this movie.
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nuff said!
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Just relax and don't go see comic book movies. It's obvious you don't understand what a comic book movie is. It's not supposed to be some dreary Children of Men type boring art house movie.
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Batman and Robin
Batman Forever
Superman III
Superman IV
Swamp Thing
Swamp Thing 2
Man-Thing
Any Marvel movie pre-2000.
X-Men 3
Spiderman 3
Ghost Rider
Daredevil
Elektra
Fantastic Four
Fantastic Four 2: Rise of the Silver Surfer
Wolverine
Hulk (Ang Lee)
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May 10, 2010 2:35:56 AM CDT
Right RPLocke, there is either IM2 or Children of Men
by industrykiller!
And NOTHING in between. Right, great analogy.Dude I loved the first Iron Man, this wasn't even CLOSE to as good as that film. That movie had some third act problems, this has some every act problems.
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As for comic book films worse than it, here goes: ALL the X-Men films, even part 2. Wolverine. The FF films. The Incredible Hulk. Daredevil. ALL the Punisher films. The original Cap film. Spider-Man 3. Batman Forever/Batman & Robin. Ghost Rider. Elektra. The Swamp Things, Man-Thing. All the Blade films. Superman III, IV, and Superman Returns. Did I miss anything?
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...it was the way it was done that bothers me. Favs could have brought more weight to it and less comedy. The scene showed Stark as the loose canon that he is but at the expense of going for laughs instead of gravitas. Sure, throw in some lines but don't cheapen it with pee jokes.
And I admit I may be be nitpicking here but the DJ's laptop... with the pseudo AC/DC logo placed prominently to remind us of the Wal-Mart, lame t-shirt cross promotion linked to the film... really irked me. Trying to be oh so subtle, yet I thought it was crass and collapsed that scene for me which was already a house of cards to begin with.
But I thought Favs improved on his action scenes in this one.
Every scene with Nick Fury was great.
Every scene with Paltrow and RDJ had a great chemistry.
Let's admit, Scarlett was great.
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"Favreau can't direct action? Black Widow's ass kicking scene.. fully refutes that statement."
Tall_Boy66 I don't want to just pick on you cos others have said this, but I just want to take you by the scruff of the neck and sit you down in front of the village attack in PREDATOR, or the 'shoot the glass' moment in DIE HARD, or the 3 way lightsaber duel in TPM, or the nunchaka fight in ENTER THE DRAGON...
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It had some plot about revenge, the government and stark acting like a cocky rich asshole, treating everyone around him like shit.
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Please can someone answer my question. I saw the movie in Germany and I didnt't notice any abuse/violence against Pepper Potts/Gwyneth Paltrow. Can someane please tell me what this Palrow abuse is about or describe that particular scene or situation in the movie?
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it was a load of horseshit. it was a false rumour planted by someone who either worked on the picture and got fired. or someone who worked on the movie who found Paltrow to be an icy queen bitch. being anti hollywood site this place attracts people like that. Paltrow did make a statement a couple of years back, not long after the release of Iron Man that she quitting the movie business. maybe people have not forgiven her for that. I dont know. paltrow is beautiful. no question and she would make a great superhero, the long blonde hair, the body, sweetness/icyness which she can do. she is a great dramatic actress. she may not be a huge box draw. strangely I am not huge fan. but the above is undenianble.
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Of course it has no soul. "Iron Man 2" is not the "somber, pensive, actually striving for gravitas" comic book adaptation. It's is "winking at the audience, keep the jokes comin', throw in the occasional cool action sequence" comic book adaptation. Which includes blowing shit up. Having watched (in real life) Operation Desert Storm on TV, and watching our military collosus reducing various parts of Iraq to a parking lot (and cheering them on, no less)... trust me, Americans have no remorse about this kind of stuff. We LIKE... to see shit... get BLOWN UP! That's never gonna change.Put that appetizer in a movie, and the box office just got automatically upped. Plain & simple.
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he really stole whatever scenes he was in. Also his exchanges with Mickey Rourke were also really entertaining. I think the movie was just a total fucking mess though. Especially in the middle after Tony gets drunk and djs. Everybody in the theater was bored, it was very apparent.
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Two words...Johannson and Rockwell.
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1. Thesecondquest has the best explanation for the 'how did he know stark would race' debate. Excellent!
2. If one more fuck-O discusses IM in terms of BM, I'm going to shit RIGHT IN THEIR MOUTH! I wonder what they will think of THAT bm? Apples and Oranges, people. Do you allow ANYBODY to discuss ST and SW in the same breath? Let's keep them separated, ok?
3. When a movie is nothing but action you bitch for story. When they put story in there, you bitch cuz it's slow. If I gave you a ten dollar bill, you'd bitch because it's wrinkled.
4. Here's my bet on the amputation thing: At one point they intended to show his legs were ripped off by being rammed by the car. Later they changed their mind cuz someone showed them the cost to match/move and cgi legs for whiplash. They still used the shot of rourke being dragged away because reshoots are expensive and they thought nobody but the geeks would notice. Guess they were right.
5. james4543. You seem to be big on sucking. Try my dick.
6. It seems that some of you delude yourselves into thinking a director comes here for feedback. Having the support of the geeks is the icing on the cake but they want the cake WAAAAAY more than the icing. Geeks are good for hyping a film but they'll roll over your ass in a hearbeat to get at the real audience.
7. Tony got stupid drunk because he was in a self destructive spiral on what he believed was his last birthday. I've been pissmyself drunk like that. Have you? If not, ask your mom for some money and hit the first bar you can find.
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100% agreement. I thought this movie was great because it took the time to have a story and showed the star RDJ in and out of the armor. ScarJo was awesome. Yes it was camera tricks, but unless you is Bruce Fucking Lee, it is always camera tricks. She looked good, she looked sexy, she looked right. Fuck anyone who says otherwise and they are probably queer too.
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I didn't get it, but Cheadle's delivery and the absurdity of the line got a pretty good laugh out of me. Also, the bit where Jarvis says the element is impossible to sythesize...cut to 5 minutes later. Why even bother saying "it's impossible..."?
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May 10, 2010 7:41:23 AM CDT
Have to agree with Cobra Kai and BringingSexyBack!
by hollywoodhellraiser
Whomever deems that BW hallway action scene as "brilliant" needs help!Seriously have ya'll seen so little action movies that a wirefu, cg fight scene is the best action scene delievered in your lives?!Please, PLEASE rent some 80' OR 90's action movies, hell go see KickAss and know some real creative action scenes!
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1. I loved IM1 so much, this one couldn't possibly live up to my expectations.
2. Not ENOUGH IRON MAN. I love the Tony Stark stuff, but in the whole movie, the only heroic thing Iron Man does, is save the kid wearing an iron man mask from doom...
3. Black Widow was not needed at all. Her only purpose in the film was to find the computer to give Rhodey back control of his suit. On top of looking Hot.
4.When Iron MAn DOES Appear, he is either a Blur in the night sky, or a close up of Starks illuminated face...Remember in IM1 when he took on the Jet in broad daylight and you could see the flaps on his suit moving?? Remember how cool that was that you could be in awe of the suit?? Nothing even close in IM2...and I don't coun't lounging in a donut or being drunk at a party as a Iron Man Scene.
5. Ivan opening his Helmet for NO GOOD REASON.
6. Black Widow not shutting down all the robots.
7. Once again, The hero is the main cause of his own villains/problems. I am tired of this already. If his dad hadn't screwed Vanko SR, none of this would have happened. So all the damage done in the movie was caused by something personal to Tony. Why can't there just be a guy who is bad , but not somehow connected to the protagonist?? The first one it was Stane, this it was Vanko jr, In Spiderman every Villain is somehow connected to Peter...Superman Returns, if not for the Kryptonite, Lex would not have been a threat, and the big bad stuff that happens wouldn't have.Just give us BAD GUYS already.Not Bad FRIENDS.
8.Vanko defeated WAY TOO Easily. I thought for sure Rhodey was going to end up in a hospitol before the night was through...but nope, we got wonder twin action instead.
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A virgins talkback name if i ever saw one!
Defends piss poor superhero movie, check
Calls people "queer" for critisising uninspired action scene just because it involved a hot actress, check
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What a pathetic mess of a movie. Plot holes, nonsense, bad writing, bad directing, bad pacing, bad action, Blah. Sorry, Favreau caught lightning in a bottle with the first one (even though the lightning leaked out with that pathetic ending), this was a total letdown. Defend it til you're blue in the face, but it's NOT a good movie.
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Paltrows frantic line delivery during the video link up with Tony and Black widow during the last action scene had my eyes rolling!! Its not an critical attack at paltrow though, just the Director and script writers and their shitty dialed up to 11 bickering banter in the style of Michael Bay movie shit. GOD i hated IM2 !!!
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...that they forgot to include all the action scenes. Could've been a great flick. As it stands, it's just kinda "meh". Hated the "lazer" part because it ended one of the most potentially badass scenes of the whole movie before it even truly got to begin. Weak.
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First of all: Fuck you. Secondly, that is the only fuck you will ever get so I hoped you enjoyed it you cheetos eating couch bitch. Lastly, unless you are a sock puppet - which you probably are, I have never seen your handle on here before, and since you reacted to the 'queer' word, you must be trying to hide something, you ass bitch. I loved the movie and ScarJo was awesome, so swing on my motherfuckin nuts you beetledicked biatch!
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It was fun to watch, but c'mon, she probably weighs 100 lbs and could not take out those dudes by spinning on them with her legs. Hogan's boxing match felt more realistic.
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6/10 kind of movie. Nowhere near as fun as the first. Felt a bit formulaic and lacked real tension. And the script didn't spark as much as the 2008 movie. It felt a bit rushed and inorganic, with wisecracks that didn't always feel natural for the speaker.
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May 10, 2010 8:11:15 AM CDT
Unless you are Bruce Fucking Lee all fights R camera tricks
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
And he weighed about 100 pounds too.
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all like "..Sniff... yeah yeah ..sniff.. that that thing they had ..sniff.. going on?you know the quick banter chemistery they all had ..sniff.. in the first movie.. ..sniff.. yeah ..sniff.. that worked so lets do more of that ,,ya know just ..snnifffffff.. ad lib the dialogue cos... cos yeah that worked first time round ergo if we do that more... fuck the script ..sniff.. . the worms(audience) liked that last time ..sniff.. so if we do it more then they will like it... like.... more too"..sniff.. "wow that goooood stuff" "and as far as plot goes? .. ..sniff.. yeah that ..er well me have to make a few changes to the suit for mercandising reasons .. ..sniff.. sooo we'll change that glowey circle thing in his chest to another shape ....sniff.. dunno a square?...no no a Triangle!! shit yeah.. that will keep Mattel of our backs till the next movie!..sniff.. We can use the triangle as a plot somehow! yeah yeah" "heres to working on cocane!!"(high fives)
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If you are around. I was just saying, I was tired of hearing about all the time and effort Rourke put into his character. Obviously 100% more effort then Charlies Angles 2 bad guy put into writing it. It was just a fucking stupid throw away part. He could've watched Rockey 4 and had been just as prepared for that role.
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Loved the setup and I think they had a great villain with Vanko/Whiplash but that ending made no sense. According to the script Vanko wanted to hurt Tony Stark's legacy. The way to do that would be having the suits based on Tony's design kill everyone at that expo. Why the suits focused their attacks on Tony is PG rated silliness. The final rescue of Pepper was a little too anticlimactic. They really needed to play up the drama a bit more. I felt like there were no stakes in this battle. Iron Man: the First did a much better job of making Tony's standoff with Stane mean something. I also disliked the Hallmark greeting card sentimentality of Howard Stark's message from beyond the grave. The blood poisoning should have been an endgame resolution. I swear in Tony Stark said, "I've tried every known element" I thought the obvious reply from Nick Fury would have been but what about "unknown elements" that would imply there were alien worlds, and things beyond Tony's simple science that could be considered. That would have been a smarter jumping off place for the Avengers plot and a possible motivation for Stark to want in.
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Just because its so bland and unoriginal. The reason people won't come out and say how shitty it is, is because there isn't really anything straight up terrible about it, save for probably the drunk party. But everyones got such a hard on for demon in the bottle they fucking love it. 10 bucks says justin theroux wasn't even thinking about that story when he wrote that scene. I still don't understand why Marvel didn't hire comic book writers to write the script to the movie? Or at least be on the script? Seems fucking stupid to make a production company to take care of your COMIC BOOKS then fucking hire some ass clown comedian/lynch fucker to write your shit.
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IM2 is the most entertainment you're going to get out of the summer crop of flicks, so go ahead and love it. Better film than Dark Knight? No. Better COMIC BOOK film than Dark Knight? Definitely!
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and in the long run thats all that matters...
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Fuckin fanboy haterz. My guess is that one 'influential' critic hated it, and every other weak minded lemming just said 'yup yup'. Weak minded Bitches.
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I watched both movies back to back so I feel secure in saying that Paltrow had just as much screentime in Iron Man 2 as in Iron Man 1 and her exchanges with Tony were still one of the most enjoyable aspects. I didn't like how much they talk over each other in Iron Man 2 though mostly because I couldn't follow along. I liked Scarlett as being a possible diversion for Tony's interests, and a way to make Pepper jealous but I think the writers let that fall apart when the plot required them to reveal her as an agent.
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Ummm no, I just saw How to Train Your Dragon last night for the first time. Better story, better special effects, better action, better acting. All around amazing movie and entertainment. THAT is the must beat movie of the summer, and it came out like 2 months ago. Infinitely better then Iron Man 2, and more macho.
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**SPOILERS** Fairly minor stuff but, at times, VERY difficult to understand the zippy one-liners being exchanged when 2 or 3 characters are speaking at the same time and 'THE SUPER LOUD AND SUPER EXPLOSIVE ATTACK OF THE KILLER DROIDS' battle towards the end was overlong and excessive and I was feeling kinda' numb by the time Rourke showed up in HIS pimped-out battle-droid outfit.
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Dragon's not a summer movie. It's off-season.
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My wife and I had a good time seeing IM2 in IMAX. The Inception trailer is the first one that actually makes any sense too. I said to my wife while Scarlett was beating guys up at Hammer's place "You know, if I hadn't just watched Kick Ass 2 weeks ago this scene would be a lot more impressive". Of course, if Hit Girl was in the movie then the whole lust triangle would have been illegal :)
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Iron Man 2: The Gold Knight delivered at every possible level. Mickey Rooney completely transformed himself for his role as a former Nazi scientist, Johnny Two-Whips. He was electrifying!Scarlett Johansson is 100% authentic as secret-villain superspy, Catsuit. I wouldn't mind doing a little Wire-Fu with her! Rowwr!It's normally a thankless task replacing an actor in a series, but, unfortunately, Shakespearean actor Terrence Howard decided to leave acting to become a full-time rapper and pimp. That left new-comer Don Cheadle to step into the role of Happy "Roadie" Rhodes, Tony Starks butler and valet. At the end, he builds his own super suit, names himself the Rhode Warrior, and fights Tony for the heart of Pepper Potts.
Speaking of Pepper Potts, Gwyneth Paltrow (so beautiful in her role as Queen Glowygauzy in Peter Frampton's Lord of the Rings, if you remember) brings her all to her role as a former stripped with a heart of gold who becomes a ball-busting CEO.
But again, it's Robert Downey, Jr. who really puts the iron in Iron Man. This time, the government is after his Lucky Charms, which are magically delicious. But as this movie explores the famous "Genie In a Bottle" story line from the funny pages, Tony Stark gets drunk and then tries to fight crime in his supersuit. Hilarious hijinks result!
David Hasselhoff really sells the roll of Nicky Fury, even though for some reason they have him doing it in blackface. What were they thinking?Like all the big fans, I stayed through the credits to see the final secret reveal, which I expected to be Professor X, revived from his coma, inviting Iron Man to join the X-Men. It turned out it was some sort of hardware commercial. Hammers? What are those people in Hollyweird smoking these days?
Anyway, another excellent moving from frenchmen Jon Favreau. Or should I say, monsieur Favreau?It just makes me look forward to the final film in the series, Iron Man Revolutions, that much more! You keep going, Jonny! -
Either way its still better then Iron Man 2.
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On here saying over and over how bad the movie is. It was a good movie, I liked it and everyone who was with me liked it. Oh and I liked the Black Widow fight scene too. Sue me, geeks.
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I loved Iron Man 2. Great movie. I thought it had all the warmth, heart, and character complexity of the first one, but the story and the stakes were higher. Good times. It is probably my 3rd favorite superhero movie ... after Unbreakable and the Specials. It is definitely my favorite "proper" superhero movie. Tho Spider-Man 2 comes real close.
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As soon as I stop laughing at your well-written and hilarious post...I am going to HATE you. [Please imagine a hateful sentence here complete with degrading explatives. I just can't bring myself to do it.]
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Ghhaaaawddamn that was a good movin' picture! My brother and I went to the local story house and saw that Irun Man 2, boy o' boy was it filled with some fancy flyin', and effects and such! Everyone in our row of foldin' seats sure loved it too, so it must be the best daaayum picture on the planet universe! Lots of science stuff I didunt understand, I think they just throw that in for the "art story" crowd, but the 'splosiuns and that lady in the tite leather getup? WOOOOOOO BOY she was as hot as a lady of the night in the back seat of dady's impala! Best dayum time I've had since that spider fella did his dancin and such with that pumpkin man, our jug club still talks about that story like it was just yesterday. If'n someone dont like this movie, well then they must be plump crazy or even a comunist cause daddy always says "the only words that matter is those from kith and kin and the man to your left sun"
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I meant, "Former stripper with a heart of gold." And would it be a spoiler to tell you that she was slowing dying from gold poisoning, until Tony, at the last minute, replaces her heart with a flexible aluminum-ceramic alloy? It's a good thing Tony's chauffeur and sous chef, Hulk Hogan (whom you may remember from that classic 1940s war flick, Hogan's Heroes), turned out to be as good a surgeon as he was a wrestler!
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Incredibles is still #1. Then Superman The Movie. Then TDK/Batman Begins/Ironman/Spideman 2 . . . take your pick. Spiderman 2 takes that position for me, because of Alfred Molina as Doctor Octopus. "Guy named Otto Octavius winds up with eight limbs. Four mechanical arms welded right onto his body. What are the odds?"
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I realize that opinions are like...well you know. I tried to give the reviews of this film a cursory reading before going in, and as usual, everyone thinks the sequel of a movie has to go over the top. I'm here to say this is a solid, great movie.
One review (out of what, a thousand) said the pacing was off. Then more...too little Scarlett. Not good action. Greta effects. Downey great. Downey bad. Only gets into the suit three times. Too much suit. Back and forth we go.
IMO this movie was exactly what I thought it would be, thank you so much Jon F. Yes, it has flaws, but they are flaws in my opinion and mine only. I thought the final battle with Rourke was too short, and that Tony shouldn't have been able to leave his property so easily after the great line from the Shield Agent. Gee, did that ruin my experience? Hell no.
We get War Machine. A drunk Tony DJing. Greta one liners all over the movie. AC/DC. Evil drones. Paltrow. Scarlett and Sam Jackson were great. Cap and Thor references.
Was it as good as the first? No, nothing could be, that movie was the origin story and just like Spidey 1, you get to come along for the ride as they learn to use their powers. This one had to expand, and set up the final in the trilogy after the Avengers.
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He couldn't afford to. Rourke got a career rebound. If he slums it, he's done. The guy put effort into the role, which means Favreau will recommend him to other directors. If he half-assed it, it'd kill his career again.
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Bendis was involved. Matt Fraction was involved. Feel free to criticise the film, but it had comic-book writers involved in the conception.
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Did all of you commenting even watch the friggin movie?
First off:
I quote:
“Whiplash Could've fucking torn him in half if he wanted to, that was so fucking unrealistic yet very funny scene i have to say, but that was the problem, way too much funny and not too much cool in it.”
HELLO??? That’s what Venko said when Tony was talking to him! Tony said Venko had a shot and he blew it. Venko replied “Did I?”. The point is he was trying to kill his Legacy, not the man.
(I see someone else mentioned this)
Some of you complain that Rourke hardly had any lines in the film, but you don’t listen to the ones he did have! He doesn’t have to talk, he radiates menace like few people can. He was perfect for this!
“How did Venko know Stark would be racing?”
He didn’t have to, it was probably well known that Stark would be in Monaco to attend the race, but when Stark at the last minute decided to get IN the car, it was all over the TV, Venko would have seen it and made his way to the track.
Venkos legs, were they severed or broken? I thought so too the first time I watched, but the second time (I took mom on Sunday) I took a good look and it seems his legs are just under him, and the torn clothing makes it look like they are severed or broken. Anyone know different?
Some of you complain the whole movie was in the trailers, yet others complain that they changed up the scene of him jumping out of the cargo plane. Soooo do you want the whole movie to be in the trailers or maybe change it up a bit?
“Vanko defeated too easily”, ok but these same people think the final battle in IM 1 went on too long. Whatever.
The droid battle too easy? Then someone would complain that you didnt get to see IM really kicks some ass.
The party scene did go a hair over the top, but he’s drunk and dying, lets see how you’d act. But at one point drunk Stark reminded me of when Datas Emotion chip went haywire and he couldn’t stop cracking jokes to Geordy. (just proving my geekness there)
BAH all of this is pointless anyway, its cool to hate and it’s a lot more fun to pan something than it is to praise it so this is all a waste of time.
I liked it, its not perfect, but VERY entertaining with some fantastic scenes in it. Everyone just needs to be grateful that a movie like this can come out good, especially coming from todays Hollywood.
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Yeah, don't use the 'lightsabre scene' from TPM. That had no heart, no emotion, no soul whatsoever. It was a light show at best. Predator is a fair example, but even then you're talking about someone like Ahnuld who's experienced in action and hitting his beats. Scarlett, much as I liked her in Iron Man 2, hasn't done action before. Now if you made a comparison with Keanu in Point Break, that'd be fair and apt.
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Oh wait.
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SOmeone suggested that because Stark was dying, it was okay for Rhodey to commandeer the Mark II. I assumed that, at some point between IM1 and IM2, that Huggybear had some training on it--which explains his lack of learning curve in the movie. And sure, it's established that while the armor is under lock and key, Tony allowed access to Rhodey, that is not tantamount to permission for use any old time. If you knew your best bud was dying, and suspected he might leave his hot rod to you, would you simply visit his garage and help yourself?
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Irony is a complete foreign concept for you, isn't it?
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Ill give most people a week to realise what they just seen was a total shite movie. Just like it took a certain few people to finally admit Spidey 3 was terrible. And years for some people to realise the prequel trilogy was a huge 3 part shitfest
Look .. I know the feeling of watching a movie that I was really looking forward to and the trick my mind does to convince myself I am having a good time. As one gets older and wiser (or jaded!) you start to recognise the signs of what its called Cognitive Dissonance, basically you know you are having a bad time yet you tell yourself you are having a good time. The two opposing forces in your mind can intensify negative emotions usually causing misdirected anger. (You just have to look at the IM2 defender talkbackers barely coherent “fuckidy fuck fuck off asshole haters!” rants. When really they should be directing their disgust and disappointment at the film makers and not the talkbackers who are just pointing out the movies many flaws in an intelligent manner.
When Kick Ass ended and the lights came on I was grinning ear to ear as I had a genuinely fun time watching it.
When Ironman 2 ended and the lights came on and no one was really smiling just doing a stupid pretending to smile face that makes most people look constipated. Most people weren’t making eye contact with each other ether and they all knew why. Because they know they would recognise the disappointment on each others faces mirroring what they were feeling themselves and just wanted to believe the lie a little longer, fuck, I was doing it myself, Its kind of hard after spending the time and money on 2tickets, Snacks etc plus original high expectations!!
Only later on, after a few drinks at a friends BBQ I finally came to my senses and admitted to myself that “ fuck that…. was…. c…crap!” “ Yes” “it was crap, there I said it!” then I had a great time bitching and laughing about the movies crapness to people who were planning to see it and the people who had already seen it “HA now you tell me? Asshole etc ”, that part was quite fun actually, nothing like a few drinks to get the truth out there!!!
unfortunatly some of the Kid tackbackers (kobe-ass-twat and RBlocke)are too young to drink and are defending IM2 with there virginity , is sad that there are so many of these children making up IronMans box office.
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...you are incredibly sick. That is unbelievably inappropriate. What makes you think people want to think about that? You're just desperate for attention. Seriously, man, what the hell? Grow up.
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I think that is what happened with Matrix 2, and Pirates 2 and 3...
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I loathed it. Is there anything wrong with just having a regular shield? Why does it have to be redesigned with the star elevated above the shield? It looks like it's a shield that has a guidance system in it ... so basically it looks like it really doesn't take any skill on Cap's part: It's like a computerized boomerang. I hate it. HATE IT. Why complicate something so simple? If that's where they are going with Cap ... I'll be more than disappointed.
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Whether you loved it, hated it, or thought it was just MEH, after all the analysis, that number above is all that matters to the people who don't give a crap about opinions expressed here. All about the dollars, y'all.
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The criticims on this point are on the mark, Stark Expo v Iron Man kicking some ass and perhaps then arriving a little late at Stark Expo would have been a better choice
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ahhh Bendis no wonder it sucked. Geez. Ummm its not like Rourke's years of training for the role paid off any? It was just as generic as any other actor playing some Russian dude? I mean you missed my whole joke about Animal Factory, the dude goes overboard on all his movies. I'm just bored of hearing about it when it didn't matter. Also he got a fucking Oscar nom recently I don't think he's going to have to worry about work for a while.
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I gave up hope. His origin story will probably be something like:
"Young hotshot Stevie Rogers and his bunk buddy 'Bucky" have seen some shit. After one of Saddam's occult-enchanced anthrax bombs goes of in Stevie's face during the first Gulf War, he goes into a state of suspended animation (a la Austin Powers) for nearly 20 years! He wakes up to a very different world. Bucky is now an old man, well into his late 30's. Wildly different tastes and cultural mores have taken over, a black man in the White House, swearing on TV, not to mention such modern technological marvels as the "cell phone", and something called "the internet". Thanking his lucky stars that America won not only that gulf war, but another more recent Battle of Civilizations as well, avenging an attack on America's soil but the ultra-powerful evil mastermind Saddam, Stevie gets back to the business of chasing tail, cracking wise, and finishing college. If not for the Gulf War Syndrome serum that gave him his powers, young Stevie Rogers might be able to live a normal life, and not the dual life as the icon of American pride and freedom itself, Captain America." -
May 10, 2010 11:33:42 AM CDT
Why would he get drunk and dance to Tupac in the Iron Man armor
by paulyd30
Why why why is this in the movie? Bad taste . This so killed the movie for me. Tony Stark getting drunk is one thing but to have him doing it in the IM Armour killed it for the kids. Was this ever in the comics ? I dont think so..Ba d call. Total let down from the orginial movie. These movies suffer when they do not bring in the comic book writters to define the characters. I do not see how MArvel would agree to this sceen.
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How would you do Mandarin, considering Favreau and his view on anti supernatural, hopefully not 10 mini arc reactors in the form of rings
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Beings that this is buried so deep in the Talkback that it won't see the light of day, I'm not sure why I'm writing it, but anyway...
First, getting the whole Scarlett Johnasson thing out of the way-I thought she was terrific. I especially liked the END of her hallway fight scene. Who knew a can of Mace could be so cool? Not to mention the fact that she is H-Bomb HOT.
As the closing credits ran, the background music made me think: Is the music choice a foreshadowing? For those that have not seen the film, I can say what the music was since it appears to have no bearing on the plot of THIS film. It's AC/DC's anthem 'Highway to Hell'. Remembering that they have NOT really dealt with the whole "Demon In A Bottle" storyline, I found the choice of that particular piece of music for the closing sequence waving at me like a red flag in front of a bull. Why would they be playing 'Highway to Hell' if not to indicate that Tony Stark's troubles are yet to come? I found it incongruous for that bit of music to be there unless the film-maker was telegraphing his next move, i.e; "Tony's ride to Hell has now begun".
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Is exactly what the fat ass will pull on us.
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from the moment he put the Thor hammer scene after the credits.its done,magic is as real as the hitech technology in the IM movies.
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linked to the stark family somehow.Fury:"Tony, your great grandma made a few enemys back in the day" or some such convoluted rubbish like uncle ben sandman crap. wait and see!!!
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Except Thor isn't technically magic. He's a God. For magic, you'd want Doctor Strange.
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Iron Man 1 = Liberal, anti-war undertones.
Iron Man 2 = Conservative, Stark's expo speech mocks Obama's campaign, the Iron Man painting mocks the Obama "HOPE" sign, unlikeable Gary Shandling senator.
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Mandarin? Simple. He's the reason that SHIELD started. They put him in a comatose state. He awakens looking for revenge, decides to get it on Tony. The guy uses the element Tony creates here as a life-source.
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Go back under the bridge and embrace your inner troll.
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and where does his super-strength,super- and flying ability come from? steroids?
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On all levels. What a letdown.
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read the new topic.Jon repeats what i already said.
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in the scene where Vanko and and Hammer meet for the first time, Hammers hands are covered in fake tan? Intentional?
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Yeah also why was he running into the fireworks? Fucking amatuer.
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Is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in a talkback.
When they drag Whiplash away, you can see a boot come off his socked foot.
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JackSlater, what do your elf eyes see...
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This was certainly not a Spiderman-3 catastrphe. At best it was a worthy follow-up to the original, at worst it was simply lackluster – a missed opportunity for greatness. But there was nothing egregious, nothing cringeworthy to make anyone puke all over these talkbacks. Iron Man dancing? Didn’t bother me at all. How could anyone possibly compare that to the completely bizarre, out-of-place, cringe-inducing Peter Parker dance number in the middle of Spider-Man 3? All I saw was Tony Stark being totally in character and having a drunken, reckless good time at his last birthday party. It made sense to me.
Other thoughts. Black Widow was disappointing, but Ivan Vanko was surprisingly interesting. The scenes with Vanko and Hammer were the most amusing. I kind of wondered how Rhodes could know how to pilot the Iron Man armor, but I just assumed he had tested it out a few times and there was another arc reactor powering it. It didn’t seem like a big plot hole to me but a throwaway line would have helped. Why did Vanko attack race cars in Monaco? I was never really sure what Vanko was trying to do – kill Tony? Humiliate Tony? Show the world he could build his own arc reactor? All of the above? Maybe I missed it. I did not appreciate Tony’s search for a new element. Was that supposed to be an opportunity to develop the relationship with the deceased Howard Stark? What was the point? The fact that I do not know makes that subplot a failure. There was definitely some pacing issues, a lot going on. Characters talking over each other started to get annoying.
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If your right, it's an abandoned plot point and if a directors cut comes out with Black Widow shooting the glove and Pepper kissing the helmet and Whiplash having no legs, I'll eat my words, but in the current cut (pun in-fucking-tended) he is not an amputee.
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These Iron Man movies must think they are too cool for school to ever call a superhero or supervillain by their comic book name. In the original, we got Stain saying “We’re iron mongers, Tony” and that’s it. In this one, we got the words “war machine” worked into a sentence by someone. I don’t think Ivan Vanko was ever given a supervillain name. I thought he was supposed to be Whiplash, but my wikipedia search revealed he was actually the Crimson Dynamo. See, I didn’t even know what villain Iron Man was fighting! Did anyone ever say “Black Widow” – I don’t recall hearing it.
I guess they think it’s cheesy to use the comic names. Maybe it is. But they’re going to have to deal with it. Because if you’re going to have Iron Man standing next to the God of Thunder on the same screen. Then simply calling a character by their comic book name is very easy by comparison to that potential cheese factory.
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10 Reasons Why ‘Iron Man 2′ Doesn’t Work http://tinyurl.com/2e3xdxg That about sums it up.
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AICN, where is the story?
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JackSlater, you're right in the current cut Vanko's not an amputee. What i'm suggesting is an 11th hour decision was made to change it after principal photography had begun. That would also make sense of when Hammer threatens Vanko by saying he'll "take his shoes".
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It would also explain the knee joints placement in the final Whiplash suit
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Favreau talks about why scenes in the trailer didn't work in the movie, and it sounds like they will be DVD extras, not a directors cut, doesn't mention Whiplash, so until someone speaks up, who knows?
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and when he turns it on, the entire city doesn't explode?
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May 10, 2010 2:09:03 PM CDT
Spider-Man 3 was better than Iron Man 2...
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
You know it to be true.
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http://bit.ly/ayXA7W
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Why? Because Robin Hood looks really stupid. "I DECLARE HIM TO BE AN OUTLAWWW????????" Why is the king asking a question? Be more assertive! Stupid king! Ugh. Bad.
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Does anyone here honestly give a damn about a Ridley Scott/Crowe Robin Hood movie? Seems like they should just call it GLADIATOR 2: MEDIEVAL BOOGALOO! Although lately, Rickey has taken to referring to it as
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From the fact that Whiplash (is he even ever referred to as Whiplash?) has his fucking legs smashed bya car into a cement wall repeatedly. That might make someone think there could be an issue with his legs. Just a guess.
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...so she could use one leg to walk on and the other to fend off Zombie Paul McCartney. It's all connected people.
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his legs fall off and you can clearly see even in the cam version that they are mechanic.
Being amputee explains a lot of things: why he survived the car crashing,why he was naked in the locker room with Stark but you couldnt see the rest of his legs under his knees,the scene where Hammer tells to his goons to take his shoes and later why he was was on the floor when talking to Tony through the phone. -
May 10, 2010 2:48:48 PM CDT
None of this worthless hypothesizing makes IM2 any better or wor
by rickey henderson
Rickey just wanted to point that out to you moonbats.
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It's a bad angle. Cobra Kai, the pic you keep showing of Whiplash is the one RIGHT BEFORE you see the rest of his leg come out from under his body, and IT'S STILL ATTACHED! Not to mention that you see his fucking leg in the rest of the movie, and he CLIMBS UP AND DOWN A FUCKING LADDER!!! Hammer took his shoes off HIS FUCKING FEET!!! NOT HIS FUCKING PROSTHETIC LEGS: FEET!!!
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Tony made those suits for Research and Development. And if you just wanted to check some systems you wouldn't just put it on like he did in the first movie. Also the reactor was killing him. And every time he got into the suits it caused more harm. So it's logical they would have their own power source. But also the reason that Rhodey could take the armor is simply Tony let him. Black Widow and Fury even alluded to the fact that he let him take it. The guy did think he was dying and the only other person he would trust with the armor is his best friend. And I'm with you guys Rhodey did learn to use it waaaaay to fast. But I have a feeling the suit kind of helps you out a lot.
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Why did it look like his legs were gone after the race? Didn't you see his entire lower body disintegrate after the race?
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It's amputee you wierdos. And after the race when he is being drug off. He had both legs. One was folded under him. And he should have been dead after being punched in the face by Iron Man. But I let it go because well there really isn't a friggin Iron Man.
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while they drag him on the ground,you can clearly see,even in the cam version,that PARTS where his feet should be fall off.
he is an amputee in that scene,but in other scenes he is not.And we have this mess because Jon has fucked it up really good thats why. -
There is a better version of Robin Hood, like a directors cut already waiting for a DVD release date?
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The fact that it's PG-13 is probably a clear give away. Ridley fucked over again; you'd think he'd have final cut privileges by now.
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Hello Sir. I for one am glad the movie didn't begin the way they teach it in grad school, the way it "always" open. I want to see something different - a new way of telling a story. I wasn't detracted at all with the lack of a heroic start. I'm sorry it was a problem for you.
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the acting and everything was just like a dress rehersal? Ok lets just go through our lines real quick to make sure our placemenet is ok before the final run? I bet RDJ was talking to Fatrow after he saw the final cut and asked "Ummm hey Fats, why did you use all those practice shots?"
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I've seen the movie twice and both times I saw his feet (well, black socks to be exact). Perhaps it's giving off the illusion of amputation to some because his shoes fell off.
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Yeah but why was he letting the fire works hit him??? Fucking amatuer.
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Not the first time I've said that, BTW!
And I'm telling you, I saw the same thing you guys saw and briefly thought the same thing: he lost his legs! But I guess, since I saw it in IMAX, and it was really big and really clear, you see the rest of his legs exposed underneath him as the guards drag him off the track. I swear! And now, I am officially done with this fucking stupid argument! (seriously, it's beneath me!) -
a 20m speech is the way you want movies with superheroes to start with? what are you a politician or something?
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the leg that is unfolding under him is seen in the cam version too.BUT it is not his damn leg.human legs dont unfold like this,especially when you have all your weight on top of your folded leg and they are dragging you on the floor.If this was Rourkey's real leg he would be in real pain because of the way they drag him in the scene,
Moreover when he is on the ground,you can clearly see his own left leg to be twisted and bent in a way that its impossible for us to do.its very clear,i have posted a pic of that scene.
And after all think it the other way: WHY did they drag him on the road instead of getting him up and cuff him? there is a guy who does not poss any threat anymore,he is injured and soaked in blood,and the cops drag him and his equipment all the way on the ground?? unless there is a reason that Favreu direct the scene like this,this thing is not realistic and logical. -
First Off: I was wrong about the amputation thing. When they start to drag him away his legs ARE folded back under him. It totally looks like they are hacked off at the knees until the last half second of the shot. His legs then stretch out and his right foot does kick a boot/shoe. The things that makes it look like his legs are gone at the knees are: 1. His orange jumpsuit (which was worn from the waist down because the top was burned off) slips down his legs because he's being dragged. Also the camera is fairly low and the perspective shortens the legs because they are pointed right at the camera. The illusion is strong but if you keep an eye on it, you'll see quite clearly that he has not lost his legs. Also, he does a fair amount of fighting after he was pinned by the car and he's moving just fine on his legs for that (something I hadn't remembered from my first viewing). Sorry for my bad guess on that one.
[] The haters need to get over the idea that the film is slow. Yes, there is less action than IM1 but you can't have a whole movie of nothing but IM fighting. Each successive battle must have more and more riding on it. You can only up the stakes by creating more interpersonal conflict/relationships and that means dialogue. Candidly, I feel that there are alot of young viewers who have been rewired by fps xbox to expect non-stop action. This group is going to inherit cinema so maybe they are right in demanding what they want. Utimately, they are doomed to disappointment because at some level, there is just no more action to be had. To meet their needs, editors have already abandoned continuity for raw kinetics. There aren't many ways to go from there.[] I was not bored for a second. The story and editing move this movie along at a fast but comfortable pace. I'm way more engaged with what's going on than I was in the first movie. The first one was about Tony. In order to one-up, this one is about Tony and his friends/colleagues. I THINK THIS FILM IS BRILLIANT! No more long-ass posts by me on IM2. Sorry so long. -
When he laying on the ground. He was just pummeled by a guy in a friggin iron suit, also his power source was crushed out so his threat level was down majorly. Oh yeah it was done for dramatic effect. He was laughing and not being exactly aggressive anymore, and you can't cuff someone with an exo-skeleton on. You can't cuff people when you can't put there hands in the right configuration. I know because I cuff people all the time.(non s&m) And you obviously have never landed wrong before. Because I have your legs can bend funny ways and not brake. And what fell of of him while he was being drug off the track were his shoes. Come on people. When Hammer had his shoes taken from him his toes moved. They moved, plastic toes don't move. Unless of course these "prosthetic feet" you all claim to see move like real feet.
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then how the fuck did he survive the car crashing? he shouldnt have legs after he got crashed.thats why he was an amputee from teh start,to make the action scene work as a suprise when the car hits him.the audience think that he was beaten,but suprise he was not harmed.why he was not harmed? he didnt have legs.
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ok man. It shows all you need to see the car hit the exo-skeleton not his legs. Oh and for all you knew guys writing long posts to break them up use but closer for the break.
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i am watching the scene right now.plenty of free space in his wrists to cuff him.but do you know what is really funny?
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The dragging over car debris. And know you can't cuff a tool like that in the front. He would strangle you with the cuffs. You have to cuff him from the back. The skeleton is blocking that. And I didn't think about the debris they drug him over before. That is funny. But hey its Europe. Not America. Maybe they have more Leeway. All I know is I would get 3 weeks off, for review of my actions on that arrest. Because I would be getting sued for that kind of action plus it's on the TV.
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That's best i can say about Iron Man 2. There were a few fanboy moments, such as Iron Man's twin lasers of destruction, but mostly this movie was cluttered, frenetically paced to a fault,and ultimately forgettable.
Favreau's hubris apparently rivals Stark's. The entire subplot where he's dodging formula 1 racers was pathetic and unnecessary. The role of Happy was perfect in the first film. Shite in the sequel. No one reads the comic to follow the antics of Happy the Bodyguard. No one should even know that character's name.
Then there was the cop-out scene so Downey Jr. need only to make a cameo appearance in the Avengers. But who can blame him? THAT movie has bomb written all over it.
Rockwell had his moments as Justin Hammer. (What if a young W. Bush was an arms dealer?). Rourke was good, but there was little for him to do.
Little to no character development for either Downey Jr. or Paltrow. I mean, the actors showed up - the story was just shit.
I was entertained, but i don't need to buy this one or go back for another viewing.
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Is this the part where we remind you that the Captain America movie is set to be a WW2 piece, not updated to 90s Gulf War?
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BEFORE the Monaco scene? I didn't even realize that people were theorizing that absolute shite! Ominus, you, sir, are a total fucking moron! (and Thank you CaptCryBaby, for watching the movie a second time to settle this BS. Something I will NOT be doing...) And btw, I didn't hate this movie, but it was nowhere near as good as the first one. And I didn't dis-like it for the "lack" of action, either. Rather, for the un-motivated and stupidly redundant action scenes. But the beginning of the film was an absolute fucking snooze-fest. Seriously, I almost went to sleep. It may be a superhero movie cliche, but you need that early, heroic action-beat in a sequel to get the juices flowing. Something showing the hero at his pinnacle, his absolute best, kicking serious ass, and THEN you show the comeuppance and the tragic downfall and the ultimate triumph at the end. Simple!
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Thanks for the reminder. Not sure if you caught it, but there was a subtle hint of irony in my post. I was illustrating my contempt for the casting choice. If you read between the lines, you'll see what I'm talking about. Just about every line in my post is mocking Evans' age. "back to the business of chasing tail, cracking wise, and finishing college." See? sarcasm. I don't actually expect this to happen, I just think Evans is too young, smarmy, and swaggery to play Cap. Captain America shouldn't be played by a smirking, Ed Hardy wearing, faux-hawk sporting douchebag. Agreed?
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oh shut up.i said in the scene before the scene where they started dragging him.when he is on the ground after Tony punched him and the camera is on top of him and you can clearly see that his right leg is twisted on the wrong direction.
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I loved Kick-Ass! That's a great example of a super hero film that had a soul!
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Decent action movie, but the middle seemed to drag after a while. My biggest complaint is about the theater. The sound was positively ear-splitting. I had to cover my ears at points, really. It's a movie, not a rock concert, and turning up the volume to 11 does NOT enhance the film! I've been to concerts where my ears were ringing after, and it was all part of the experience. I was in the middle of the theater, not on the side near a speaker, and it was terribly loud.
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care to make a wager about the amputee theory? we can have someone hold it in escrow. you got paypal?I hate to take money from a conspiracy theory wacko, but...oh no, wait, I hate conspiracy theory wackos!
since you pussied out on my challenge to explain yourself the way I did, addressing all of the illogical leaps one would have to make for Whiplash to be an amputee, at least put some cash up, kiddo. ask your parents for a $20. -
Hulk should have had a part in the movie...at least he has legs (Whiplash is an amputee...fo show).
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It insists on itself.
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What was that whole "Tony doesn't like things being handed to him" stuff about? I don't get it. Garry Shandling's neck...WTF??? Yeah I know we covered this already, still... Sam Rockwell... Jesus FUCKING Christ... I do NOT get the love for this fucktard, never heard of him, didn't see "Moon," or "Green Mile," or "Hitchhiker's Guide," or whatever the fuck else he was in before, don't care, definitely not a fan now, just wanted to punch him every time he appeared on screen. I also miss the "you complete me" scene. I loved that in the trailer. "two seals fighting over a grape..." yeah that line bothered me too. Other than that, I liked the film.
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Yep thats about it good movie.
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...or at least thought it was better than the first film. There was definitely more going on, the characters were able to expand upon their character from the first film, the structure was a little tighter, the villains were definitely better and more realistically motivated (okay, Vanko was a bit of a stretch, but I liked Rourke's character). I just thought this movie had a little more depth to it, and I was pleasantly surprised. Thumbs up from a hater.
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May 11, 2010 12:38:34 AM CDT
Anyone pick up the odd references to Walt Disney and Taxi Driver
by chishu_ryu
(spoiler) Howard Stark's old film of him talking about the city of tomorrow is basically a remake of Walt Disney talking about EPCOT, and the scene where Hammer tries to sell the military a bunch of guns for War Machine is from the gun sale in the hotel room scene from Taxi Driver.
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Yeah, I got that. Howard Stark even had a Disney mustache. I thought that moment worked pretty well.
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The whole movie pretty much was making-up-as-shooting after Mickey escaped. It was one improvising scene after next. If u take what they set up to do with Mickey's character. Stark and Mickey should switch around their live and lead to a final fight, kinda FACE-OFF-lish. This is a TV movie with bunch good actors impoved through out man.
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while IRON MAN 2 is three stars...not better than the original, but almost as good. What the hell do you want for part 2 anyway?
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If one of Iron Man 2's stars had been in a gay cowboy movie, then died before the release of IM2, it would have stomped DK's record.
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If you despised Rockwell in IM2, it's likely because he was playing an arrogant, smug and unlikeable weapons dealer. Which means Rockwell was doing his job. He's great--and Moon rocks.
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Ok I just saw Kick-ass again and it is an infinitely better action,superhero and drama movie than IM2 is.it s a real shame that the movie didn t get the Box office it derserved.Some scene in kick-ass gave me chills.When the hero was in danger u truly felt like he would get hurt and the build-up to the final confrontation is awesome. The finale is intense plus during the entire movie the score kept you in it.Now I did have some problem with it but it such as the jetpack scene ,flying through New-york.Now compare this to Iron man 2,to be honest after seeing the trailer I wasn t really that excited for it but the film was still a total letdown , I dont even know where to start ,shit pacin,shit final fight,shit villain,it really felt lke they went through the motion with this one and I loved the 1st movie.It definitely didn t feel more grandiose or more expensive.It s a well made film but not very good that s all. And the Opening now stands at 128 millions so it wouldn t surprise me if this week-end it just gets past th 50 million mark .300 million is a real possibility with this one and it doesn teven deserve that in my opinion (then again spidey 3 didn t deserve 420 mil)
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So suddently the geekry discovered they can be critical of movies, and decide to do so with a vengence against, of all movies, IM2? On a good movie? What the hell is going on? Where was your hyper-criticism superpowers when really shitty movies were released last year? Give me a break!
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but it will satisfy those who see 2h of mindless entertainment.the irony eh Asi?
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Naw I like Rockwell, but he wasn't doing anything interesting here. Just a bed version of Gary Oldman from Fifth Element. In fact he usually is copying Gary Oldman and failing. Moon was good though, but I give credit to the score, something Iron Man 2 should've had.
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Is this a helmet? No. I need to put a GUY in there, Ivan. Is this a helmet? No, it's a HEAD.
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Rourkes longest line in the whole movie. He was much better when he only said classic quotable lines for life like "if he dies, he dies".
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...still wanted to punch him. :-P
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too much Sam L. for me. I'm sick of his annoying tone and repetitive style when he is driving a point home. I just really hope he is kept to small snippets in The Avengers movie, similar to the scenes in Iron Man 2.
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tends to happen, when your movie SUCKS DONKEY COCK!
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coming from a fan of the first. It's not the worst ever, just mediocre and clearly rushed.
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...like Stark was in IM2. He was clearly more troubled in this film than in the first one (i.e. getting drunk and misusing powers at his birthday party, succumbing to hubris over the success of his super-hero career "successfully privatizing world peace"). That makes me think that geeks are simpletons, and can't handle a little gray matter in their black and white outlook on fantasyland.
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Christian Bale's Batman voice was horrible. I mean, terrible. It wasn't like that in the first movie, except when he was really super-pissed. In the 2nd one, it's just over-the-top. And the Two-Face arc didn't work, from how he got to be two-face to everything else . . . that should have been an arc for the 2nd movie. Or something. I dunno, but it didn't work. Nestor Carbonell as the Mayor was cool, though. And Heath Ledger made an awesome Joker. The movie should have been called the Joker, and we only see Batman getting his ass handed to him by the Joker, and we never hear him talk. That would have been a much better film.
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For what it was, a summer tentpole picture based on a comic book, it was entertaining. Sure it had some plotholes, sure there were some dead spots, sure there were a coupla slap-the-forehead moments, but taken as a whole, it was good popcorn fodder. Highpoints: Monaco scene, Rhodes against Stark, a lot of the climactic battle, Rockwell, every scene Scarlet's in (droool). Lowpoints: Stark creating a new element (rolls eyes), some of the scenes with Stark and Pepper. All in all, not bad. Im gonna see it at least 1 more time.
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Whoever above said that Kick Ass was better- Fuck you. IM2 kicked Kick Ass' ass. While I liked KA, IM2 pwns. Its the best action flick so far this year.
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If u think that the action in Iron man 2 is better than kick-ass then ure obviously a moron .Go masturbate one more time in front of Iron meh 2 .It had 8 times the budget of kick-ass and it still sucked hard .If u re calling this the best action film of 2010 ure obviously retarded.Aww look he dodged a blast ,aw look he s wrapping himself in whiplash s tentacles,aww look he s punchin the other suit,aww look hes being chase dumbly at night through the sky,aww he blasted them and the bad guy in one shot.Wow that Iron man guy was really in danger heee .NOT !!!!Shit action for Donkey ass americans like u
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Saw IM2 again last night (better the second time - fun movie) and I know its a tires subject - but I think the amputee theorists are correct.
I kept an eye out and first off it would explain him getting rammed multiple times by the cars bumper (no regular human, no matter how tough could take that) and their mangled?collapsed look after the fight (I'm sure Vanko could have whipped up some pretty sweet prostetics if not robotic legs if he could make all that other crap)....
Secondly, on wide shots of him walking (one of the first scenes w/ Hammer when they are walking up to the computer/armor suits) he has a limp like he was walking on at least one fake leg)....
Also his feet with the "tattoos" hit the floor with a weird thud and looked really rubbery...I think the "tattoos" were just some kind of writing on the fake limbs maybe from whoever manufactured them.
It would explain the car thing though which is what bugged me the most...he wasn't super-human....he couldnt have taken that. My question is why edit that out of the movie? It would have made more sense....would a stumpy villain freak out the pg13 crowd or something? -
Tired subject. :]
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May 14, 2010 7:47:34 AM CDT
Guess what....they're not making JUST for you comic book nerds
by pedro_voted_for_me
I had a great time. It's not bloody Truffaut...and it's not meant to be. They are allowed to respect the material and not make your own perfect version. Get over yourselves.
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Saw it the other night, and while there were lots of individual neat bits, as an overall story and cohesive film it was a complete mess. Felt rushed, flimsy, busy, and empty.I liked the first IM a lot. It's the opposite of all the failings listed above. I like the cast of IM2 a lot. The effects were good, some of the action sequences worked well.But it just felt like a committee made a list of all kinds of neat individual ideas for an IM film, and then they just filmed them all and slapped them together end to end.The "it's just a popcorn flick, let it be" excuse is weak. IM1 showed us all that you could have the best of both worlds. IM2 showed that you could go wrong with all the right elements.Even RDJ, who I like a lot, seemed to be on autopilot. Cheadle came off as sort of weak and whiny. Rockwell was sort of a repetitive cartoon. Paltrow seemed like the only real person in the film, but had only one thing to do in the script. Johannson was gorgeous but her actual acting was fairly poor. Rourke looked to be having the most fun of everyone, but a few grunts and haggard looks doesn't add up to much. (But get the man into a remake of any Charles Bronson flicks, stat. He's now a dead ringer - I see Death Wish or Magnificent Seven in his future.) Sam Jackson pretty much just played himself again, though he's starting to grow on me as Nick Fury. Not a remote fit for the traditional version, but an effective modern update.Note that none of my critique comes from any purist place - the IM source material is very repetitive and base don very few ideas - rather a simple, objective look at a ragged mess of a film.So, some good eye candy here and there, bu otherwise an oddly joyless, stiff film.
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It's become such a tired, stupid cop-out for trolls to wade in here and say, "you guys who always find something to dislike are just geeks and nerds".Why does disliking a film make you a "nerd"?Answer: it doesn't.Looks to me like a lot of studio plants are sneaking in here and trying to play the old junior-high-bully game with the rest of us.Well, it ain't working, gents. If you liked the film, fine. You're entitled to your opinion. Just as those who found the film to be empty-headed water-treading, like me, have an equal right to our opinions.So save your insults. Besides, anyone commenting on a full-fledged geek web site about a comic-book movie IS A NERD. Coming in here and pointing fingers at nerds STILL MAKES YOU A NERD.It's like shooting fish in a barrel, pointing these things out to these dummies.
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Even though IM2 has turned the ratio of good-to-bad comic book films back in the wrong direction, I'm reminding myself that the presence of grownups increases when we get to Thor. Come on, Branaugh - I believe in you, man. Take this difficult source material and knock us all out.
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I thought they called it that because it was the second movie, I didn't realize it was because he's only in the movie twice.
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