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Matthew Vaughn’s X-MEN Movie To Hit Cinemas In 13 Months!!
I am – Hercules!!
Is Fox in grave danger of losing the rights to make “X-Men” movies or something?
Fox has sealed a deal with “Kick-Ass” director Matthew Vaughn to helm prequel “X-Men: First Class” and the studio has already set a surprising date for it to hit cinemas:
June 3, 2011
That’s less than 13 months from now.
"Iron Man 2" began principal photography on April 6, 2009 and hit Peruvian cinemas on April 29, 2010. Also less than 13 months.
So it can be done. It's just that "Iron Man 2" seemed like a sure thing from the week "Iron Man' opened. "First Class" always seemed less certain, perhaps because it will feature an unfamiliar cast in familiar roles. (There was even thought -- while "Chuck" creator Josh Schwartz was scripting the project -- that "First Class" might emerge as a sequel focusing on a new generation of X-Men.)
I’m hoping Vaughn can pull off something great. I adored “Layer Cake” and “Kick-Ass” and I’m keen to see what he can do with a Young Erik Lensherr and Young Charles Xavier.
Word is "First Class" producer Bryan Singer (who directed the first two "X-Men" movies) has been auditioning potential young Cyclopses and Marvel Girls in the same sessions he’s using for “Jack The Giant Killer.”
Scripting on this project began in November 2008. Singer has been involved since late last year.
Find the Hollywood Reporter’s story on the matter here.
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we need another bryan singer xmen
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Oh well. I'm a huge comics fan, and I like the director....but I do not want this movie unless it's a total 100% reboot. I absolutely loved X2 particularly, but 3 really killed me on this franchise film-wise.
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Singer is involved. That should help Vaughan out.
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May 05, 2010 1:13:22 AM CDT
Wait, it's opening the same weekend as The Hangover sequel?
by shermdawg
Ouch.
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Are they still trying to rush that out as well?
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I'm surprised Vaughan has agreed to this - whatever Rothman promised, I have no doubt he'll be all up in Vaughan's business throughout the production and we'll end up with another undercooked mess like Wolverine. Speaking of which, look out for the "surprise" announcement that Hugh Jackman will somehow have a leading role in this. No way Fox will let an X-Men movie out of the gate without their adamantium cash-cow on board (pardon the mixed met
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Yep....Those effects will be back.
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Seriously. 13 months? It's like they don't even care. I'm wondering what's going on behind the scenes that Vaughn would accept this kind of schedule after what happened to him on X3. No cast. Probably no final script. I wish Fox would care.
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I hate my laptop.
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...you won't be seeing Wolvie.
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the rights reversing back to Marvel.
I'm a cynic but the concept of making movies solely on the basis that they have to or lose the naming rights is just plain wrong. -
May 05, 2010 1:23:39 AM CDT
I'm just curious to know what compelled Vaughn to sign on
by undercover fanboy
If it was the material, the concept, the potential for a killer X-Men story, then radical. If it was the cash, then fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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...flop city!
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is a dead franchiseNEXT!
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With a smaller, younger cast of mostly unknowns, that least leaves a lot more cash to throw on sfx. With less to spend on egos and backend deals, they can afford to book ten effects houses to rush this out instead of four. Besides, Spielberg shoved out "War Of The Worlds" in a year and still had time to do "Munich" (not an indicator of quality, just an observation of how a critically and commercially successful film can be made in a short time).
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Cant wait for more bad accents, quick molded mutants, patrick stewart, matrix outfits, and a 3D blackbird.
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would have been cooler
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That production was super quick from what I remember.
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X3 had a terrible script, but if it had been relatively the same (same actors, Phoenix saga) except with an awesome script then it would have been fantastic. With this it looks like they are trying to make X-men smaller, when what they need to be doing is re-imagining it bigger and darker.
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Are they gonna recast Chuck and Mags? We've seen both Stewart and McKellan portray those guys in scenes set before this movie takes place. And if they do come back, which isn't likely at all, has that digital botox been improved since Wolverine?
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No way!!! That movie had so much love and care put into it and its script so rock solid. Barf.
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May 05, 2010 1:38:42 AM CDT
'Cause Fox has such a good track record when it rushes X-films
by zardoz
Can you feel the sarcasm in my post?
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He had horrible ideas for the X-Men. "Oh Cyclops is busy doing Superman? Well lets kill him off." an example of only one of the many conceptual problems with the film.
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May 05, 2010 1:47:17 AM CDT
Ratner pulled the trigger, but Vaughn built the gun, pointed it
by george newman
Ratner pulled the trigger, but Vaughn built the gun and pointed it at Xavier's head
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Hugh Jackman is awful as Wolverine.
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"And we will wear tight fitting leather." Fuck me.
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AGREED. Wolverine don't cry. Not like that.
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soon will give way to non linear, story jumping. People will want see these characters remodeled in more than reboot mode, they reboot, do a few films, reboot again, its like just its cool for awhile, but that will change. youll see.
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This isn't a reboot, it's a prequel.
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A new cast is definitely going to be iffy. We'll see if they can pull it off.
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I could shoot an X-Men movie in 13 days...it would be a piece of shit just like this one will be...wake the fuck up.
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Sigh...
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but they point out very clearly who is the idiots...Rothman or you dolts who paid to see those crappy films. You are essentially funding this one...thanks guys.
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...with Rescue Me lately, Denis Leary would be a fine choice for Banshee if they use him.
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Your mom threw away your best porno mag... BUSTED!
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Pleeeeeeease.
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... I'm warming up to this.
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May 05, 2010 2:46:10 AM CDT
This site making every shitty thing out as a fox story is a joke
by eddiemurphyslaugh
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May 05, 2010 2:52:41 AM CDT
Bryan Singer casting means EVERYONE will be gay just like Superm
by professor_monster
Spacey - GAY
Routh (don't care what anyone else says) - GAY
Parker Posey - everyone's fav fag hag
Magneto - GAY
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...this has marvel Crap-Fest written all over it. I'll just say Ewan McGregor as Banshee would be better than Denis Leary. X-Men doesn't need a prequel, just a replacement for X3. I don't think Vaughn is the guy to do it. Wolverine has been overused. And No Fucking Yellow Spandex except for Bandit 37 who has FINALLY come out of the closet. You'll fit right in with the West Hollywood gym bunnies wearing that!
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...Denis Leary. And he's a bigger box office draw.
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...out before the Mayan Calander ends. Why? To prove to the Mayan Gods that we really do deserve to get wiped out.
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Motherfuck it. In the ass.
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Jonathan Ross just posted on twitter that his wife "has just taken on a big new exciting movie", taking 10 weeks over it.
Wouldn't be surprised of Vaughn has agreed to take on this movie, and called Jane in to help tidy up the script, post haste. -
was about eight months, not including pre-production, five months shooting and three months of post. The big fx sequences were done first, to give ILM more time, they also edited picture, as they filmed.
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before too long, and this will be a bomb of historic proportions. Fox can't help themselves. They will interfere, and panic, and Matthew will confuse them and frighten them, and they'll fire him.
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But it will be a poorly made shoddy movie, that in years to come Mathew Vaughn will be interviewed on when it went so wrong, "You see I was in a bar I should not have drunk that tequila, there was a girl, she said she was 18, and yeah she is a niece of Rothman's"
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May 05, 2010 3:59:17 AM CDT
Yeah I believe that Singer is auditioning young Cyclopses.
by demosthenes2
That is all.
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May 05, 2010 4:02:21 AM CDT
Iron Man 2 started principal photography a year ahead of release
by demosthenes2
which is reasonable time. X-Men First Class is still in prep without a full cast in place and only just a new director hired, so it won't won't be starting principal a year ahead, so it's worrisome... could be months away, meaning rushed shoot and rushed post.
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If you think this is actually going to come out as a film of genuine quality you are either incredibly stupid, naive, or willfully ignorant about how projects on this kind of crunch work. ESPECIALLY a project involving comic books starring teens, it will be garbage.
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It gets worse and worse every time I hear about it. Vaughn is a self conscious and story blind filmmaker. Prequels are never good. And, to top it off, it's a Fox rush job. Prepare the caskets, X Men (at 20th Century) are done for...
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If you keep paying to see this garbage in theaters, fuck you. no really, go fuck yourself. You are tangibly and demonstrably making the entire art of cinema a more difficult thing to be a fan of, you fucking dickhead. Im not even kidding, you have a flaw in the core of your character and you should be treated lesser for it. What will it take to make these imbeciles less curious about something they know is going to be terrible? Vote with your wallets for Christ sakes.
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Man, everything is indicating that this will not only be a massive fail but a bomb as well. Vaughan has never delivered a big hit period. Singer will make this thing as gay as Superman with some added gayness added for good measure. They're going to rush this into production. And after X3 and Wolvie most people are meh about the franchise. They may as well stick a "Do not disturb - due to tank in 13 months" label to this thing.
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You're gayer than Boy George dressed like Robin in a British prison.
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May 05, 2010 4:31:40 AM CDT
IndustryKiller! – I did NOT go see X3 or Wolverine...
by merlin_ambrosius
...in the theatres. I did see X3 on basic cable and it sucked more wind than umbral_shadow. I didn't bother seeing Wolverine. And Ratner is the devil!
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as he's typing. You see, black dick is his favorite kind for obvious reasons. Merlin is currently in prison after deliberately robbing a liquor store. His favorite part of the day is the mornings in the prison shower cubicle when he bends down to pick up the soap...
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...self-loathing homophobe. And gee you really hurt my feeling with that one.
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...clearly have a self-stated 'thing' for black guys. Just stop polluting up the talkbacks with your inanity.
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They can't use Beast, Angel or Iceman, and they were 3 of the original 5. Can't use Logan, Colossus, Rogue, Nightcrawler. Kitty is out. Storm was also an adult in the franchise, so I'd say she's in for sure. They get a black character at the same time so I'd think she's a lock. I wonder if they will try and do something weak like put Sabretooth or Juggernaut on there, as "the one that turned to the dark side" or whatnot.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a young Mystique with a swerve to side with Mags.
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...the ultimate frenemies Magneto & Xavier, How about Scott, Jean, Storm, Beast, Scarlet Witch, and Quicksilver. And a young mastermind (william stryker's son). I can do without the Blob.
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I imagine she would cause all kinds of trouble at the school. However is she is old enough to be Nightcrawler's mother that might not be feasible, although she could be brought in by Magneto as a "teacher".
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Didn't your mommy ever tell you that? Finish sucking that cock first before speaking. And don't forget you have an appointment at the STD clinic this afternoon. Your blood test result is back and it doesn't look good...
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with that lame comeback? You really need to get out of your mother's basement more often and see the world.
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He then sucked his daddy's dick on a regular basis until his dad told him to stop because he wasn't using his tongue on the shaft enough. Now he knows better. Whenever he sucks cock he always uses plenty of tongue on the shaft. He can't wait to have a son of his own so he can teach him the same trick. Passing it down the generations...
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Rushing an X-Men film is the same mistake you made before. And even the one before that.
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While X-Men and X-Men 2 were hits, we have to remember that these were the first in a long line of SuperHero movies, but if you watch them again, it also bugs me that Singer changed so much. It worked ok, but today, after Iron Man finally scored big by staying close to the character, and with Batman keeping it fairly simple, I think Singer's time has passed.While let's not rush this movie as per X3; let's give it to someone who actually isn't going to ask an assistant to go out and do research. Let's give this to a Director who knows the character, who know the origins, who will get Cyclops, Hank, Iceman, Angel, and Marvel Girl right!I think the Angel character was brutally murdered in X3 with his 2 scenes... They should've never had let them go "Teen" on him. Should've been the same age as Cyclops.The whole start with Iceman being part of the school kids was for me a disapointment, he shold've been an integral part of Team 1, not just another kid trying to score the new chick... Give it to someone who'll care about the damn project and reboot the whole damn thing to the great Origins that helped build the storyline to greatness!Singer only shows that his ego is now too big, and giving him full control of a movie is not ok, just ask WB about that Superman crap they pulled out a couple of years ago. That was a totally signed Signer movie with full creative control!.. Not Good!
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It's up there with Layer Cake and way better than Kick-Ass. Just saying.
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May 05, 2010 6:55:11 AM CDT
Matthew Vaughan went from indie darling to sell-out studio hack
by beebread
in literally a matter of weeks. Vaughan signed on the dotted line a made an agreement with the devil himself, Tom Rothman, signed away creative control, and it's a typical Fox rush job no less. Looks like Vaughan has to pay off some seriously pissed off Kick-Ass investors, because you can't pay off your debts with the optimistic delusions of Kick-Ass fanboys who continue to blindly crow about Kick-Ass's "supposed" profits. Bwahahahahahahahaha!
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May 05, 2010 6:56:32 AM CDT
Seriously dumbral, did you get that from the type...
by merlin_ambrosius
...of porn you watch or are you writing from personal experience? Either way it's just sad. As I suggested to you before, it really is time to see s a licensed professional about these rape and incest fantasies of yours. Because for some reason X-Men talk-backs bring out the gay in you, and not in a good way.
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I've written a screenplay for it and am looking for feedback. Find it at:
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Erik Lensherr and Young Charles Xavier" is not required. They'll be youngER surely? And hopefully some decent costumes this time.
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Fox rushed The Last Stand and it was a piece of shit.... and now theyre going to rush First Class. sigh.
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May 05, 2010 7:30:06 AM CDT
Matthew Vaughn’s X-MEN Movie To Hit Cinemas In 13 Months!!
by new_magneto
My dream is to play the young Magneto (25 years)! Please, tell me as I write a film director Matthew Vaughn! The role of the young Magneto created for me! You can find me here! http://twitter.com/New_Magneto
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The drumbeat in Hollywood after kiddie Trek suckered in all that cash was make 'em younger, younger, younger. I, for one, am sick of the constant catering to the hypothetical tweener buck. But then, I'm also disgusted with the 3D gangbang for every genre film currently in the pipeline - so what do I know?
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...and Ving Rhames as Wolverine.
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Fox needs to reboot ALL of their Marvel properties! Fox's Marvel movies are easily the worst of the bunch. Great job, douchers!
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But it won't happen.... they don't trust the source material.
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Maybe something good comes out of this.
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I garauntee you Fox thinks that Wolverine is the only member of the X-Men people know, and he somehow gets shoehorned into the story. Since Xavier basically forms the X-Men at the end of Wolverine, I could see this following that and having Wolvie as the resident adult. Either way I hope this fails and Marvel somehow can get this franchise back.
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Vaughn has a great resume so far, and I'm afraid this will reek of mediocrity. Especially since a lot of the general public have a recent distaste in their mouth about X-Men.
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trying to outdo X3 and Wolverine.
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Maybe Fox doesn't trust the source material, but I'm sure Vaughn does. We'll just have to see how much Vaughn can get away with without the studio interfering too much.
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I'm not sure that's true. Most talkbackers might have a distaste in their mouth regarding X-Men films at the moment, but the general public?
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So they had the first three X-Men, then backtracked to the Wolverine quasi-origins movie, talked about a Magneto Origins movie that may or may not happen, and are now either doing a young Magneto & Xavier movie OR possibly a next class of recruits (or, simply, X-Men 4?). The lack of continuity is annoying, although if it's a Charles Meets Max might be chronologically accurate if they're starting with the Wolverine flick.Not to mention the movie production timeline. X-Men 3 was universally bashed (rightfully so) as horrible. Wolverine I haven't bothered to see, but apparently pretty bad. Having a rushed timeline on X-Men First Class after X-Men 3 was so soundly criticized and after Wolverine was universally labeled an awful, awful, awful piece of crap really makes me not want to see this. It's Fox. I'll pass.-Cheers
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http://tinyurl.com/yar8xjj
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I predict that one coming down the pike pretty soon.
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By making some of the original X-Men kids, I'm not sure who (or how) they're going to assemble the "First Class" of the X-Men and have it make any sense or in any tie into the X-Men series of movies they drove off a cliff the last couple of movies. Beast and Iceman are out, Angel's out, Wolverine is out (I'd imagine they'd like to squeeze him in, but it would make absolutely no sense), Nightcrawler is out. Cyclops and Jean will be like, what, grade school kids? Who else of note could they add? Unless they get highly convenient selective amnesia, none of those core members of the X-Men can really be there. And are they going to de-age Sir Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart, or replace them (particularly stupid move, replacing Patrick "Born to Play Professor X" Stewart)?Sorry, I expect this to either suck, or be a bit patchy as they try to gloss over stuff. Regardless, I've lost faith that Fox can keep from screwing up anything and feel genuinely burned by their idiot moves, and think this movie franchise is probably dead. I'm going to go read a book instead.-Cheers
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I remember him ditching the project over time constraints imposed by Fox. And budget reasons over Thor... Oh well, if any director can fix the Xmen, lets hope its him. Personally I wish they would not get these movies started in time so Marvel could get their rights back
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May 05, 2010 9:14:01 AM CDT
Again I ask, why do people think Vaughn will do a great X-Men mo
by moore12
Layer Cake, Kick-Ass, were good, but there also had blood, swearing, killings that involved blood. How is this going to translate into an incredible X-Men movie?
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May 05, 2010 9:15:12 AM CDT
Also, what are the differences between the X-Men movie Vaughn wa
by moore12
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all 33 of them.
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Not BEGAN PRODUCTION. I hope that Singer has been been approving sets and all kinds of preproduction art, costumes, getting SPFX companies in line, etc. It sure didn't sound like ANY of that was being done when he was interviewed with Lauren Schuller-Donner like a month ago. He was telling her to "hold" that project for him.If not, the only way I see this working is if it's a low-budge affair like Kick Ass.
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..however it's next to impossible to make a perfect X-Men movie, singer almost nailed it with the 2nd one, but it's hard to get over the lame casting and not to mention how Scott Summers once again played 3rd fiddle to Wolverine. It's X-Men, not the fucking wolverine show.I hope that Vaughn will stay close to the comic's roots otherwise, we might as well have josh wheldon helm the franchise. Best of luck.
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No doubt they need to rush out another X-flick or they lose the rights. And they know the rest of the X-movies (X4, Wolverine sequel, etc) is FAR FAR away and if they don't do another movie soon, they will lose the rights before those other movies are ready. Fuck FOX. I want Disney/Marvel to own the rights again.
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"The fanboys said this was going to be gay anyway, so we went all out!"
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Fuck this movie. This quote appeared in McWeeney's column at HitDix.
"story will find them (Xavier and Magneto) working together to stop a global threat alongside other mutants (some familiar, some new), until a rift leads to their eternal war chronicled in the first three X-Men films."
So what we'll get is more Singer styled NON X-MEN bullshit that will have little, if anything at all, to do with the source material.
Pass. Vaughn just fucked up. He's too smart for this dreck.
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If Star Hump's quote is right, it's the answer to the question nobody is asking. Specifically, how a largely source-material-disregarding X-Men Origins story that nobody really wants (do they?) when X-Men I already did a fine job of setting up the X-Men, with most of the fan favorite mutants from the series they've worked hard to introduce going to be notably absent.Really, falling on the heels of the flop that was Wolverine (you'd think a pretty easy character to get right) this sounds like a movie that nobody is asking for or likely to care about. I'll definitely pass.-Cheers
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I am so sick of them. Didn't bother to see 'Wolverine', won't bother to see this.
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suck, suck it dry
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Cyclops, Iceman, Beast, Angel, Jean Grey as Marvel Girl, and Professor X.
Ignore what has been twisted up before in the other X-films. Reboot it correctly with an inexperienced team going against Mesmero or something. Rehashing the Magneto crap is just too damn repetitive.
If they must do an early brotherhood, then please have Magneto, Toad, Mastermind, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch.
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Well does it!!!!
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Beast wouldn't be out at all, BUT their would be some conflict regarding Scott and Jean's age. When Chuck found Scott he was a high schooler in Wolverine, Chuck and Mags found Jean as a kid, so if they follow through, either Jean's age will be retconned to where she's NOT ten years older as shown in the main series, OR she's technically the first X-man, not Scott.
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Interesting. I didn't watch Wolverine. I'll check it out on video sometime I guess. As for Beast, is their continuity screwed then? It seemed like they just found Beast in X-Men 3. I could have missed allusions that he wasn't a new find or something.Thanks for clarification on the rest. I do not want to be a hater, but Fox has put a sour taste in my mouth on a lot of this stuff. Regardless, thanks for the insight.-Cheers
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Because you suck serious horse cock. DIAF.
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Also, Singer is a hack and should have nothing to do with this. And prequels suck. Big up Matt Vaughn.
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I still think he'll do wonders with a big budget. But DAAAAAAMN this franchise is in serious need of something spectacular after Last Stand and Origins:Wolverine.
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..this one is going to suck.
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Me thinks you're mixing up your blue mutants. Nightcrawler was the one they found, Beast was introduced as an old friend of the team.
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before Wolverine, right? Because Stryker's son was frozen and therefore Xavier had already failed to "cure" him? But he had just picked up Scott and those other kids at the end...wait so it had been 15 years from X2 to Wolverine according to Stryker in X2. The beginning of X3 took place 20 years before...and X3 couldn't have been more than a year after X1 (it was only a month between X1 and X2 according to Scott). so Jean was the first? That actually makes her a little younger than Scott OR the same age. Eh fuck it.
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Count me out. Everyone is bored senseless with this version of the X-Men. They really should just reboot it from scratch. From the description this is gonna be just as lame as Wolverine only with all the boring Xavier and Magneto stuff that was run into the ground the last time. We get it, they used to be friends and now their not. Magneto is not the only X-Men villain. Just like Lex Luthor isn't the only Superman villain either. Hopefully this will be the "Batman & Robin" level failure that will force them to take a few years off and comeback fresh.
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Maybe they'll cast Tom Hardy as young Professor X so he can help bury this franchise playing a young version of Patrick Stewart just like he did in ST:Nemesis. Singer's X-Universe needs to die.
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Eventually, if the box office blows enough, Fox will stop churning out shitty X-Men and Fantastic Four flicks, and the rights will revert back to Marvel, where they belong. I've enjoyed all of Marvel's flicks thus far (yes, I even enjoyed Letterier's "Incredible Hulk").
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Like previous posters have said, you people who fork over your money to see any superhero movie that comes out and/or buy the DVD are the reason companies like FOX continue to churn out substandard products on the cheap. It's Economics 101.
Think of it from their perspective. They can invest $100 million on this project and despite lambasting by critics and fans alike - despite the box office drops off 80% the following weekend - it will still make $200 million worldwide before DVD sales and rentals. They invest $100 million in a products and double their money. Where is the incentive for FOX to take an extra year to bring it out and polish the script? Are they going to make that much more profit? If they spent more time on it would it make Dark Knight money? Highly unlikely and risky. I think they proved that with X3 and Wolverine they can churn out any kind of mutant movie and make money. Switching directors on X3 from Singer to Ratner hardly hurt them at all. They got their product out on time and made a profit.
You may not like what FOX produces but at then end of the day they make a pretty tidy and risk free profit. Why would that want to let go of that cash cow?
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I knew they found Nightcrawler in X2, but couldn't remember Hank's connection to the team. So yeah, if he was introduced as an old friend then yeah he could show up as a blast from the past in a prequel. Nightcrawler would require some selective amnesia. So I was only misremembering/forgetting that about Beast, not mixing them up.-Cheers
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I for one would love to see these back on the big screen together. Xmen 3 was such a disappointment tho I thought they did well with a crappy script. I know the chances of this happening are none existent probably but I just wanted to put it out there anyway.
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By the way i think this first class prequal shit is just bollocks! There was so much to see with the original XMen gang. The Last Stand should never have been the final stand. Its just wrong! X1 & 2 were really cool to! ANNOYING!
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May 05, 2010 4:52:19 PM CDT
MATTHEW VAUGHN'S X-MEN MOVIE TO HIT DVD/BR IN 15 MONTHS!
by wickedjester
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May 05, 2010 4:53:10 PM CDT
VAUGHN'S X-MEN MOVIE WORKPRINT TO HIT TORRENT SITES IN 12 MONTHS
by wickedjester
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I only downloaded Wolverine, what did YOU do?
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can it possibly be worse than the also rushed xmen 3? fuck you Fox you corporate scumbags
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...it still took me two tries to get through it. I have all the movie channels - just consider it part of my yearly entertainment budget. That's still how I see a lot of stuff as I'm not big on the movie downloading. If I had paid to see Wolverine in a theater I would have left. If I bought the DVD I would have returned it and said it was defective. That movie is a pile.
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And, as a comic geek, I'm very proud of myself for that.
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They would do the comic justice. Let the rights expire Fox. Please?
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on cable. It really was a stinking pile of cowshit. Jackman should be embarrassed. And Liev Schrieber. Wow. I wonder what he was thinking when he saw himself on screen running like a dog. How about Will.i.am as a superhero? Hilarious. He was some kind of teleporting soul brother.
The movie was a half-assed mish-mash of the Weapon X mini-series that appeared in the Marvel Presents comic, Wolverine's solo comic, and that shitty Wolverine mini-series called Origin. The one where they renamed him James Howlett. I'm sure they lumped in some more shit too. They had to get the Blob from somewhere.
Cyclops' eye beams actually burned things, which was hilarious too. They couldn't even get the guy's powers right.
Things is, all they had to do was adapt the Weapon X mini-series. It was beautifully written and drawn by Barry Windor-Smith and it would have made a fantastic origin movie for Wolverine.
Just the minimal amount of research by the screenwriter and the studio and they would have their story just waiting for them, giftwrapped.
Instead, they flipped through a few comics, mixed it up in a boel and through the entire shitty mess at a wall and hoped it would stick. It didn't.
Watch. They're about to do the same damn thing with this new X-Men movie. The people at Fox, and the people they hire, just aren't talented enought to make a good X-Men film. -
The odds are stacked against him since 1) he's only got 13 months which means they will totally rush pre-production on this and 2) Singer is producing this to keep his shitty X-Universe going so he can step in for another payday on X-Men 4. Vaughn is just a patsy in this situation. Even if he makes a great film, if this is still just a quick little piece of shit "X-Men:Origins" filler film and their jumping back to the modern age for X-MEN 4 so Bryan Singer can suck more life out of this franchise to sustain his shitty hack filmmaking career than this is all a waste. I'd take an X-Men TV show over this at this point.
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That was hilarious.
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That is the only thing that can save the blended mess of X-Men 3.
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I'd always prefer a X-men tv show. That's how this property should've started out. That's how whatever reboot comes about under Marvel should go....if tv is still a viable option at that point. This could've been Fox's Star Trek, but Rothman was too shortsighted to realize it.
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Give us Frank Quitely designed costumes!!
Give us Astonishing X-men storylines!!
Dammit inject some COLOR!!
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Mights as well give it a sci fi and fantasy EPICNESS to it! Yes I invented a new word, EPICNESS.
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sounds like a supremely bad idea to me. you can't rush movies like these. i could go on at length about how terrible an idea is to rush a big-budget summer tentpole because it leaves less time to get the script just right and to cast the right actors and whatnot, but this is Fox we're talking about. we all know from their track record that they don't give a shit about making a quality movie. they've got a popular comic book franchise with popular characters and wide brand recognition. all that equates to rather sizeable box office numbers regardless of the film's quality.
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You'll hate yourself if you watch it. I'm a HUGE comic book geek, but only have marginal, cursory knowledge of X-Men and the history or it's main characters. Two-thirds of the Wolverine movie literally left me sitting there slack-jawed with a "what the fuck?!" expression on my face. It's not even that it's a terrible movie, it's just so many levels of wrong.
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...and the more I see how many people feel pretty close to the same about the third and fourth films, I think I'm starting to lean towards the reboot idea myself. Normally it's something I hate. But in this case I actually think it would be cool for them to start over and really honor the history of the comic book.
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May 05, 2010 9:34:54 PM CDT
Does Fox have the balls to make X-Men without Wolverine?
by curious jorge
The four movies thus far have pretty firmly established that Wolverine's origins are completely separate from the classic X-Men.
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listen, i know it's redundant at this point, but fox blows.
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with tom rothman running the show, the result will be the same. crank the movies out for summer, who cares if they're any good because people will show up just for the name. at this point, there needs to be a massive shakeup at fox before i trust them with any genre properties.
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Who are the member's of First Class? It can't be 60's classic- Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Angel and Iceman, because the last two were kids in the X-Movies. Beast looked about 50 years old, way older than Cyke anyway. Maybe he's a teacher. Ok, so, Cyclops, Marvel Girl, and who else? who haven't they done yet? Banshee? Sunfire? Polaris? Havok? Thunderbird? Or are we going to get some kind of weird mix-up, new characters in the past? Like, Jubilee in 1979? And that's another thing, I'm sure its been talked about here, but ages/dates/decade/era was all FUCKED in Wolverine. Cyclops looked about 10 years younger than his X-1 self, but it was supposed to be 30 years earlier. what the eff..?
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I agree, to totally geek out for a second, when Cyclops' beams burned shit I got a little mad. The scary thing about his power is that it's PURE FORCE SHOOTING FROM HIS HEAD. Not some red laser beam. I know I sound like a giant nerd, but this is the kind of shit that matters. You don't call a home-run a touchdown for a reason.
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and it shows the beginning of their quest to hunt down the kids and help them they may only show a few of them. Scott,Jean,Ororo maybe even Mystique and Toad.
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Fool me twice shame on me.
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It's all about getting the details right - something Hollywood has consistently failed at doing. It matters. And your sports analogy is pretty apt. If Hollywood bungled significant details like that, say, in "The Blindside," the reviewers and audience would've howled bloody murder. "That's a touchdown, not a homerun! Don't these filmmakers know anything? Inexcusable!" It'd be all over the net.It would be called ut as sloppy filmmaking.
And sports fans aren't considered nerds even though they paint their faces, dress up in colorful gear to attend games (some even wear costumes), play fantasy versions of their favorite sports(which is pretty much Dungeons and Dragons) and obsessively pour over the details (stats) about their sports and their heroes who play them.
Oh, but if comics fans complain when filmmakers don't get the details right about their favorite characters, they're dismissed as nerds.
And look, you even called yourself a nerd. Not criticizing you at all, but I absolutely refuse to do that. There's too much self-loathing going on. I make no apologies for loving comics books and films, and for getting annoyed when these jerkoffs don't get the details right. Sure, the rest of the world calls me a geek, but I won't do it to myself.
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FOX is single-handedly trying to kill the comicbook/superhero movie. You heard it here first.
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Tell them Star Hump. Let'em know that if we are geeks, then so are the others(sports fanatics, reality show fans, soap opera nuts;etc.).
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I hear you about the nerd moniker, but I think about it a little differently. In my case there's nothing self-loathing about it. I'm old enough to be past the traumas of adolescence associated with those words, I've been married and divorced, changed careers, and I still care about whether or not Colossus has a Russian accent. I've accepted that there are always going to be things I'm interested in that the woman I'm seeing simply won't be able to identify with, or that some of my friends consider unforgivably dorky (even though I feel exactly the same way you do about their sports obsessions) I'm ok with all that. Especially since in my adulthood I've discovered that some very attractive ladies find nerdiness quite beguiling, (as long as you keep it to a respectable minimum) and knowing a lot of esoteric information about obscure pop culture can be an asset when meeting like-minded people in all walks of life. I had a client once who only wanted to work with me because I knew the Byrne/Claremont X-universe inside and out. Basically what I'm saying is that nerds aren't necessarily cool, but being one doesn't have to hurt your chances.
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I hated the entire X-Man franchise. I hate it when you take a story and change it for no reason. Another Daredevil in the making. Why they keep going back to Singer/Ratner and all those other lame-o's is beyond me. The only way I would watch it is if they go back and read the comics and do them without changing the relationship of the characters. I mean, I can understand updating dialog to current terms, but changing the relationships sucks ass!
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The trailer is attached to Iron Man 2 tonight.
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Well put, and I didn't mean to suggest that you were filled with self-loathing. I could've worded that better. Sorry about that.
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Yes, its classic. But you want a sure thing? Days of Future Past. Best tale in the X-men archives, IMHO. Alternate take on the X-men's future, a la LOST. Do it. Make money.
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and make First Class in a reasonable time frame. With an expanded budget.
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