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Mr. Beaks Hates Every Single Frame Of Platinum Dunes' A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET! Do Not See This Movie!

Published at:  Apr 29, 2010 5:25:25 PM CDT

SPOILER ALERT !!

This is a waste of my time. It's a waste of yours, too. Feel free to skip it like you're already (hopefully) planning to skip this movie.

The only review that matters to the makers of A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET '10 will arrive Saturday morning with the Friday box office estimates; then, and only then, will they know whether they've succeeded at rallying the target demographic to attend their cash grab of a remake. And if you think "cash grab" is harsh consider this: a) Platinum Dunes' FRIDAY THE 13TH redo accumulated sixty-two percent of its total domestic gross in its opening weekend, and b) IRON MAN 2 opens May 7th. A long time ago, Warner Bros. and the Dunes crew took a look at A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET '10, realized it was a piece of garbage, and set up shop on a release date that has historically been a dumping ground for non-starter event films like VOLCANO or xXx: STATE OF THE UNION, knowing full well that they'd be completely out of business the next weekend (but, most likely, on the way to profit).

I hate to cite a movie's release strategy as evidence of its dubious artistic intent, but any discussion of A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET '10 that takes into account actual filmmaking technique, storytelling facility, or thematic depth is going to be a short one. So let's dispense with these formalities one at a time...

Technique: The film is dimly lit with a queasy-making greenish hue that occasionally calls to mind a film school washout's approximation of David Fincher's fluorescent FIGHT CLUB aesthetic. At other times, it just recalls like a film school washout's approximation of the "Smells Like Teen Spirit" video - which Samuel Bayer directed, and which wouldn't be remembered had it not been powered by the most culturally significant Billboard #1 hit in my lifetime.

The face makeup on Jackie Earle Haley's Freddy Krueger is actually pretty good, but no more impressive than what you saw in Richard Kelly's THE BOX (a flawed-but-fascinating movie you should stay in and watch this weekend rather than bother with this garbage). Unfortunately, it's apparent they focused all of their visual f/x ingenuity on Krueger's visage because every single standout set-piece - e.g. Freddy distending the wallpaper*, claws bursting through an unlucky teen's midsection, Nancy tripping up under a hallway undertow of blood and viscera - looks at least a decade behind the CG times.

The editing of the film is also choppy. There's a lot of boilerplate suspense business setting you up for a cheap jump scare (and, thanks to the introduction of "micronaps", Freddy can spring out of nowhere at any time), but these sequences are doubly ineffective because there is no rhyme or reason as to why the characters stumble into their bad dreams. They just arrive at these set pieces because it's essential to the by-committee construction of the film, not because there's psychological provocation for them to be killed in the throes of their nightmares. Remember how Freddy covered his tracks in the original by framing Rod for Tina's murder, and then hanged Rod in his jail cell? In this film, Freddy just randomly works his way through a list of previously decided-upon victims, and you're supposed to cheer this because it doesn't unfold quite in the same manner as the original. Since we've veered in that direction...

Story: I could be a purist and decry A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET '10 for not being Nancy's movie, but I won't do that because, in the early going, I was kind of hoping they were going to execute a big perception shift and turn it into Tina's film. This made perfect sense to me in that, a) the Platinum Dunes gang aren't exactly feminists, b) I liked how they unceremoniously disposed of "final girl" Danielle Panabaker in FRIDAY THE 13TH much earlier than expected, and c) they had no fucking interest in Nancy for the entire first act of their film!

Turns out they're just lousy storytellers. The narrative hook of A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET '10 is one of delving into origin: they think you're more interested in finding out why newfangled Freddy Krueger is newfangled Freddy Krueger than how these kids are going to survive being punished for the unasked-for "sins" of their parents. Yes, there's a chance Freddy was wrongly accused of being a child molester; no, the people who brought you THE HITCHER remake are not going there. Perhaps if they'd set up the adults as paragons of parenting virtue rather than "Clancy Brown!" and "Connie Britton!" the third act would've been something of a sucker punch. But the parents don't matter, the kids don't register, and the atmosphere, again, is borrowed. This film is just a collection of pilfered (and unimaginatively tweaked) set pieces from a classic horror movie.

Thematic Depth: I wrote the very first review of Platinum Dunes' debut release**, but even then I knew they had zero interest in engaging your intellect. Fair enough when you're making something as viscerally terrifying as TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSCRE or as preposterously stupid as FRIDAY THE 13TH. But A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET is, despite its slasher film trappings, on a higher conceptual level. And while it may its low-budget seams may show, it's endured because Wes Craven tapped into something profound about the disconnect between parents and teenagers that speaks to that specific era. A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET '10 speaks to no era because it looks like it was shot in 1994, and plays like it was written and directed by Hollywood operators chasing paychecks in a narrowing marketplace - which it was.

No one involved in the making of this movie expects you to like it; they expect you to pay to see it this weekend - or maybe impulse purchase it in the next revenue window - and discard it as you go on with the rest of your evening. Filmmaking doesn't get much more cynical than this. Don't waste your time. Never see this movie.

Faithfully submitted,

Mr. Beaks



*Using technology seemingly inferior to what Peter Jackson employed fourteen years ago in THE FRIGHTENERS.

**I stand by this review even though it reads too much like a press release. Not my finest hour.



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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:24:45 PM CDT

    Done and Done

    by battle_royale_with_cheese

    Not gonna go. thanks for the heads up.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:27:03 PM CDT

    I loved the film! I think it is the best remake since the thing!

    by professor_bedlam

  • Apr 29, 2010 5:27:36 PM CDT

    Wow....

    by dark-knight02

    First...and tell us how you really feel.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:28:10 PM CDT

    Damn!

    by dark-knight02

    Not first, shouldn't have read it first.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:29:19 PM CDT

    Finally, an honest review

    by rplocke

    Thank Jacob!

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:29:22 PM CDT

    Harry just got owned!!

    by ganymede3001

    I trust Mr Beaks way more than Harry.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:29:59 PM CDT

    Wait a Minute...

    by d o o d

    So all those reviews raving how good it is are bullshit..? I mean I was leaning towards this being a pile of crap but to be honest, after reading those readers reviews, I was surprised to hear that it was really good.Now you're saying that it is really bad as I first suspected. I'm not going to see this, but what's going on..?

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:30:16 PM CDT

    Howard The Duck

    by greatoz

    Clearly now is the time to reboot/remake Howard The Duck. There is almost nothing else left to remake from the eighties. If ever there was a time for a 3 foot tall, cigar chomping, cynical duck -it is NOW!!!!

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:30:28 PM CDT

    Is there anymore doubt?

    by crunchymilk

    That Harry is doing it for the money now? What an asshole.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:31:06 PM CDT

    Still..Better then IRON MAN 2

    by james4543

  • Apr 29, 2010 5:31:38 PM CDT

    Trust does not exist in this dojo

    by cobra--kai

    Harry, Beaks, Harry, Beaks?!
    Who to trust??? Oh god, now i'm conflicted. Is it effin awesome or unbearably shit???
    It's the aicn equivalent of the angel and devil on the shoulder scene in ANIMAL HOUSE.

    Reply to Talkback

  • WHO TO BELIEVE?!?!?!?!?! ...I think Beaks since the movie has a 6% on RT right now. Yup.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:33:03 PM CDT

    Speaking of horror

    by aphex twin

    Katie Holmes to play Jackie Kennedy in HC mini-series?!?! The horror...the horror...

    http://tinyurl.com/2degclz

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:34:15 PM CDT

    Why did they open a week before Iron Man

    by rplocke

    This movie will be gone in less than a week. Why not open in the fall?

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:35:11 PM CDT

    i will see this, but only for free-ninety-nine.

    by redhorsevector

  • Apr 29, 2010 5:37:01 PM CDT

    Meh

    by guido505

    I think I'll actually see the movie this weekend and make up my own mind.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:37:30 PM CDT

    Hollywood

    by thedudeinla

    How is it that they always put out horror films in summer and winter but not in the fall...like Halloween?

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:37:31 PM CDT

    Crazy how opposite this review is from Harry's

    by jaka

    Interesting. Verrrrry interesting.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:37:37 PM CDT

    I trust Harry more...

    by nrn

    I seem to have tastes closer to Harry than masa or anyone else.. I think I shall be seeing this movie tomorrow so I can judge it for myself, screw someone else judging it for me.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:39:12 PM CDT

    RPLocke...

    by agent blue

    When Iron Man 2 is sold out, this will be what the 17+ crowd goes to see instead.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:41:34 PM CDT

    If you think you should trust Harry's review you're idiots

    by industrykiller!

    Harry is by far the worst, most pliable, least trustworthy, most at the beckon call of his own arbitrary whims reviewer on the internetosphere. I'm saying that completely objectively as I really dont hate the guy, I just know his flaws as a commentator. Beak's, like Devin Feraci, can get pretty lost in his own desires and makes some pretty dubious statements without backing them up (calling The Box "flawed" is not quite as apt as saying gloriously unaware of it's own stupidity), but he's on a totally different playing field than Harry Knowles. Listen to Beaks if you can't tell just by the Platinum Dunes moniker how bad this is gonna be.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:42:34 PM CDT

    Smells Like Teen Spirit?

    by lochkray

    Most culturally significant #1 of your lifetime? How old are you? Not to say the song isn't significant, but the MOST cultuarally significant? Hmmmm. I'll have to research that one.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:42:44 PM CDT

    I think I'll watch the Frighteners instead

    by detectivesoap

    what a great movie...

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:43:06 PM CDT

    Well then Nrn, have fun making films shittier as an art form

    by industrykiller!

    cause that's what supporting shitty Michael Bay produced remakes does. So fuck you I guess.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:46:00 PM CDT

    Smells Like Teen Spirit/culturally significant

    by m_prevette

    Best laugh I've had all day

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:46:18 PM CDT

    Harry - tut tut.

    by human_bean_juice_

  • Apr 29, 2010 5:47:06 PM CDT

    Harry liked Attack of the Clones

    by hapapapa72

    And I'm STILL shaking my head that he claimed Scorcese and Siskel and Ebert as his 6-year old childhood heroes. I'll skip this, thanks. Let the fucking teens today get their own horror franchise. Thanks Beaks.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:49:17 PM CDT

    But Harry liked it.....

    by nuking the fridge

    But then again Michael Bay must have given him some money.

    Sorry Harry.

    Word of mouth on this movie is horrendous.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:49:55 PM CDT

    Teen Spirit

    by dstrange

    Let me first say, I hate Nirvana. I was in high school when the whole "Grunge Revolution" happened so I was in my prime (at least as a demographic), but I still hate them. Their heralded Unplugged performances is one of the worst live performances I've ever seen (by a Billboard charting band anyway). So, knowing that, I must say, yes Teen Spirit was one of the most culturally significant songs produced. It sucks. And I hate it, but if you don't understand the impact it had on the entertainment world, you need to understand how ignorant that is.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:50:35 PM CDT

    Remake 'When Harry Met Sally'!! Starring....

    by largojr

    Harry Knowles & Sally Struthers!! You KNOW you want it!!

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:50:49 PM CDT

    Beaks is insane

    by headgeek

    and he'll say the same about me.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:51:06 PM CDT

    Richard Kelly's The Box fascinating and flawed?

    by hint_of_smegma

    Well, you're half right with that statement, fascinating it aint though. Not a good film to mention if you're tearing down another movie for being shit. Anyway this is starting to piss me off. I really don't want this to suck but I'm getting a bad vibe now. You'd better be wrong Beaks or else I'm gonna be an unhappy camper tomorrow - Freddy is a God of horror. I won't believe this is shit until I see it for myself.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:51:57 PM CDT

    Tastes Great!!

    by gbrob08

  • Apr 29, 2010 5:52:13 PM CDT

    HARRY - for the love of God tell me he's wrong.

    by hint_of_smegma

    Please big guy, be right about this one. If only this one.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:52:39 PM CDT

    Awesome review

    by corman

    This is a great, well-written review, Mr. Beaks. Thank you!

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:54:33 PM CDT

    So, Mr. Beaks, tell us how you really feel

    by eastcoastavenger

  • Apr 29, 2010 5:54:43 PM CDT

    and the THE BOX

    by headgeek

    's make up and visual effects just looked flatly bad. Krueger is far superior and Jackie's performance isn't LAME like the one that accompanied the far less cool digital makeup in that film.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:54:47 PM CDT

    Nirvana was amazing...

    by nuking the fridge

    I have never known anybody that hated Nirvana. But I guess there is a first time for everything.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:55:00 PM CDT

    Apparently Harry was the one one whos check cleared

    by redbull_werewolf

    Platinum dunes probabaly forgot other reviewers on this site would need to be bought out, not just harry

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:55:09 PM CDT

    Culturally Significant #1 Singles

    by mrbeaks

    I was born in '73. I missed "What's Going On?" You can rule out the entire '80s. Trust me on that. Maybe "Convoy"?Seriously, look back at the #1 hits since I burst forth into this world. Lots of disco in the '70s. Best songs would probably be "Miss You", David Bowie's "Fame" and "When Doves Cry".

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:55:24 PM CDT

    Free ticket with purchase of original blu FTW

    by dead youngling

    Got a great movie that looks fantastic on blu and 7.50 credit toward the new one. I'll take that deal.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:55:49 PM CDT

    Nuking the Fridge- I have

    by battle_royale_with_cheese

    They're mostly dumb metal heads and old people.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:55:51 PM CDT

    No or limited critic pre-screening...

    by powerring

    This movie evidently didn't get much of a critic pre screening. I watch rotten tomatoes and other sites for a variety of opinions. This movie had none...until today. Out of a number of critics, this movie got a fat 5%. I am skeptical, and I am leaning toward the RT critics and Mr. Beaks on this one. Somehow I don't think it's worth of the lavish praise Harry gave it.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:58:29 PM CDT

    Nirvana sucked. Never understood anyone liking them.

    by hint_of_smegma

    The closest noise Cobain made to music was the shotgun going off. Fucking awful band. And nope, not saying it to buck the trend, I genuinely hated them. As Mickey said, Cobain ruined rock music.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:58:46 PM CDT

    Caspar was a better movie than Friday the 13th

    by rplocke

  • Apr 29, 2010 5:59:06 PM CDT

    The guess the money from Platinum Dunes

    by magnus greel

    didn't make it very far down the AICN food chain. Harry got it all.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:59:34 PM CDT

    I'll say it again for you idiots...

    by the_baio

    Micro naps are a real thing. Quit using that as some barometer for how bad the movie is. I give the makers credit for knowing the physiology of sleep and incorporating this.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:59:36 PM CDT

    beaks

    by headgeek

    I'd say the most culturally significant #1 single of my life was PINBALL WIZARD... although due to a retarded pop culture - it only ever got to 19.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 5:59:39 PM CDT

    Ridiculous review

    by unmask

    Beaks gets caught up with the only unworthy CGI shot of Freddy pushing through the elastic wall and suddenly every shot is crap?? Come on. I was at the screening, and this is far from a perfect film, it is still damn enjoyable with great performances from nearly all the actors. Yes, some moments fall flat, but plenty more make up for it. Bayer may be more a 'technical' guy who may not latch on to minor writing or timing nuances, but he certainly did about as good as he could. Remakes are tough. Ask Gus Van Sant.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:01:57 PM CDT

    Less Filling.....

    by gbrob08

    ............

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:02:06 PM CDT

    I Love Jackie, But...

    by mrbeaks

    ... this is no LITTLE CHILDREN or WATCHMEN. And Frank Langella was on his game in THE BOX.By the way, I'm not saying THE BOX is your go-to alternative this Friday. How are you on Walter Hill? Seen a lot of Budd Boeticcher? If you're looking for horror, how about Bava, Argento, Lewton/Tourneur or non-zombie Romero?

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  • and yes i am a plant.fuck off.anyway i think Beaks exaggerates a bit,probably the nostalgia factor has,as it is common,clouded his judgment.but truth to be told the film generally is not getting very good reviews.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:04:52 PM CDT

    How can you not

    by dstrange

    mention Led Zeppelin or KISS when talking about music in the '70s? C'mon Beaks, they ruled the world back then!

    And yes, Nuking, I can't stand Nirvana. I'm not sure how old you were when they hit the scene, but the change in everything I knew musically (I've been writing and recording since I was 16) was so drastic it really fucked over my young mind. There I was pushing forward and actually getting some good press in the music biz, and then these 3-chord-playing bastards took the music charts and fucked it. Music was and is my life and they pretty much shit on everything. If they were a good band, that might've been a welcome thing. I'm always cool with shaking things up a bit, but they sucked with the exception of Grohl. He's a badass drummer and great songwriter - def. the talent in the band. Anyway, it matters not. Hehe. At a stubborn age of 34, I'm not going to be changing my mind any time soon.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:04:56 PM CDT

    Younger folks

    by nippleeffect

    will relate to this one more
    The original, the styles, furnishings, cars, everything is so dated, they just won't connect with the old

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:05:16 PM CDT

    ...People gonna get fired lol

    by yourstepdaddy

  • Apr 29, 2010 6:05:51 PM CDT

    Cobained ruined rock, cause the late 80's were so wonderful

    by industrykiller!

    Fucking philistines. The only decent thing going on in music in the late 80's was Guns N' Roses. I mean I love INXS as much as the next guy, but Jesus....

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:05:55 PM CDT

    I guess they only had one "Freddy Lives" T-Shirt

    by ghostdad

    And Harry got it.

    The upcoming movie worth seeing is this untitled "Ninja in the old west" movie I saw a screening of last night. No idea when it's coming out, but see it.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:06:32 PM CDT

    Harry can half heartedly defend his review

    by barnaby jones

    But anyone with a tiny bit of sense can see through it. Ignore this film, if you value creativity, originality and the wonderful artform that is film itself !

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:09:50 PM CDT

    Each negative review proves me right...

    by mr. profit

    When I read the script, I thought it was just OK. Why did it focus on Kris so much? Make you interested in her? Then off her to focus on a really bland Nancy. Who is then stripped of her resourcefulness from the original film. This review shows that while there may have been reshoots, the script still remained mostly the same it seems. I'll say it again, while Heather wasn't a great actress in the original, you liked her. And it was impressive to me that she was so scared to sleep she utilized her insomnia to plot a believable way to kill Freddy. If he can kill her in real life, then I can kill him if I bring him out. If the ending is the same as the one in the script, where Nancy really does nothing, then Platinum Dunes is really much stupider than I thought. How fucking hard is it to make a decent Freddy movie? Even Freddy being resurrected by dog fire piss is looking better than this mess. Also Beaks, no need to apologize for your TCM remake review. I agree with it completely. Also, it's still their "best" movie. 7 years later with more money and resources and these fuckers still can't top it.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:11:24 PM CDT

    Right Nipple effect, I never connect with films from the 70's

    by industrykiller!

    You know cause that's before I was born. So The Exorcist and The SHining are total shit to me right? Right??? I hate the fucking argument that young people won't like anything older. We shouldnt endlessly remake movies because we think kids wont like what came before. That a nonsense argument.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:11:57 PM CDT

    Yep, Rock is in fact DEAD!!!!

    by pissed off and bitter

    Seriously since Cobain and Nirvana ruined everything that has come since, there's only been a few standouts to me like Garbage. But other than that, it all sounds the same.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:12:33 PM CDT

    When Beaks gets fired can I have his job?

    by strongbadmonkey

  • Apr 29, 2010 6:12:39 PM CDT

    I've not seen The Box

    by barnaby jones

    But at least on the face of it Kelly atempted something a little bit different, didn't just do something for money and managed an original thought. For Harry to crib someone he's constantly put on a pedestal is disgusting. Really Harry how is your credibility worth ?

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:13:10 PM CDT

    Oh and Kyle Gallner

    by mr. profit

    Always looks like he is in pain. And I will never forget how he raped "Veronica Mars" and gave her Chlamydia.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:13:33 PM CDT

    Damn Beaks, got a spycam at my house?...

    by eustisclay

    ...considering your recommendations. Been showing my girlfriend a lot of films she hasn't seen and last weekend we watched The Long Riders and Night of the Demon(original British version of Curse of the Demon).

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:14:52 PM CDT

    @Industry

    by dstrange

    I'm not saying music didn't need some kind of change. It did back then (and I liked a lot of hair bands). But other genres I liked were just starting to hit the mainstream - and they didn't get that chance because that flannel-wearing-offtune-singing mofo came in and Geffen decided he was the best thing since Jim Morrison - and that just wasn't true. But somehow they made it true. They forced it on us. And now... well, now we're here when 90% of music and film suck. Ah well.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:15:40 PM CDT

    IndustryKiller! now that you mention it

    by nippleeffect

    The Exorcist is looking a bit dated

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:15:59 PM CDT

    green lantern preview on Clash of titans Bluray

    by redbull_werewolf

    sweet another reason to pick up clash in july

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:16:29 PM CDT

    Even so, I tend to agree with Harry more.

    by nrn

    And attack of the clones wasn't too bad compared to the phantom menace. WOW mediclorians wtf? Less Jar Jar ftw as well. It still was no where near as good as the original 3 movies, but lets face it, the original 3 movies will always be the great ones. Revenge of the Sith wasn't bad either -- sure the guy they cast as Anakin couldn't act but if you could see past that I loved the way he turned into Vader.

    I have agreed with Harry on mostly all of his movie reviews (there are some I don't however), so as a vivid Nightmare on Elmstreet fan, I don't care that they are remaking it -- I still want to see it. Platinum Dunes track record is 6/10 for most of their movies, The Friday the 13th sequel wasn't horrible except for the part where they didn't totally mush out Jason's brains when they had the chance at the end. It was leauges better then the HORRIBLE Hills have Eyes remakes. And better than the chainsaw massacre remakes. I am will post my own judgements after I see the movie, but at this time I am choosing to believe Harry who has been here forever and normally spot on with my tastes. (Although I like V and he doesn't seem to).

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:16:39 PM CDT

    I think Nirvana were awesome.

    by barnaby jones

  • Apr 29, 2010 6:16:40 PM CDT

    Why are you picking on Volcano?

    by outlawsdelejos

    I have a soft spot for that terrible, terrible film. As soon as you mentioned the horror being big BOO's at the screen I decided I'll wait till this is on DVD for $1 to rent. I hate that people would dare make a film with those techniques in mind and try to call it horror. It's cheap, it's tacky and plain fucking slack. Fuck off back to your music videos director I don't care to learn the name of.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:18:00 PM CDT

    Can't say i'm overly fond of 'teen spirit' video tho

    by barnaby jones

  • Apr 29, 2010 6:19:15 PM CDT

    Which other genres, dstrange?

    by battle_royale_with_cheese

    Just out of curiosity...

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:19:47 PM CDT

    Thanks, Industry

    by dstrange

    You know what, man? You just now, after 18 years made me realize why I hate them so much: they were forced on us. Like Justin Timberlake. Jim Morrison, for example, pushed on us. He just was who he was and that's why he was cool. I'm not saying Cobain was manufactured in a record studio like Brittney Spears. I think he was true to himself until he got picked up by Geffen. Then they decided he was something much more than he was and it killed him and the music industry in one shot. But seriously, thank you. I get *why* I hate them now HEHE. I knew it was something more than their awful Unplugged.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:20:13 PM CDT

    The critics are on Beaks' side, Harry.

    by juansanchez

  • Apr 29, 2010 6:20:22 PM CDT

    Seriously, it won't be long before The Excorcist

    by barnaby jones

    Will be making its way back to screens. Especially if you hand over your hard earned cash to see Freddy this weekend.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:20:36 PM CDT

    @Battle

    by dstrange

    I will answer that, my friend. But I'm late for a meeting right now. I'll be back with that... stay tuned.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:21:50 PM CDT

    Drstrange, Cobains success was not a harbinger of crap

    by industrykiller!

    His death was MUCH closer to being that. Some AMAZING bands hit with Nirvana. Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, Alice in Chains were all incredible bands in their prime in those days. And it didn't stop 80's alt bands like R.E.M. from hitting the mainstream. I mean some bands from the 80's like The Replacements never seemed to hit that commercial peak, but that's more their fault than Cobains. And you cannot blame him for what came after, shit like Mall-Metal and Boy Bands were a totally different construct that had nothing to do with the early 90's.I would like to hear some of the stuff your talking about though, I was in grade school when all that went down so I could be overlooking some stuff.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:24:09 PM CDT

    Platinum Dunes - helping directors?

    by outlawsdelejos

    This company was formed with the intention of giving emerging directors a platform to prove themselves right? Have any of these guys gone on to anything better, or anything at all? Marcus Nispel made Pathfinder (which is an abhorrent film) came back with Friday the 13th and is making Conan or some such shit that he is guaranteed to fuck up. Jonas Ã…kerlund, nothing. Dave Meyers, nothing. Andrew Douglas, nothing. Jonathan Liebesman, nothing (worth noting). I ask, what's the point? Get directors that show substance in their work and not the ability to add a green filter to music clip, assclowns.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:24:28 PM CDT

    Ok drstrange, that's fair

    by industrykiller!

    I hate when things are forced ont he public too, and that hack Justin TImberlake is a great example, that man stands for nothing and creates nothing of value, he's a snake eating itself as his fame perpetuates itself. Bu its not an apt comparison, Cobain was an excellent songwriter, whether he was your particular brand of applesauce or not. I mean shit, I meet people who don't like Bob DYlan, and I cant wrap my head around that either.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:25:36 PM CDT

    Didn't Harry...

    by suntzu77

    Rave about Godzilla?

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:26:31 PM CDT

    The Exorcist w/ Chloe Moretz and Angelina Jolie

    by mr. profit

    Directed by Bill Condon. In 3D. Produced by Platinum Dunes. Written by Ehren Kreuger.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:28:50 PM CDT

    You know what NippleEffect.

    by industrykiller!

    I think YOU'RE looking a bit dated. Oh sick burn! *IndustryKiller! shrugs his shoulders. Stares blankly at the ground....walks away feeling empty*

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:29:48 PM CDT

    OutlawsDelejos

    by mr. profit

    Jonathan Liebsman had the misfortune of directing a poorly written script. But his direction was one of the better things in that stupid movie. I didn't expect the sequence where the chick is taken out the car with a meat hook. The car accident with the cow was well staged. And most of the action was good. The film just suffered from being unnecessary and midway through you realize there would be no survivors because if there were, part 1 would have never happened. He deserves another shot at a horror film though.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:31:52 PM CDT

    IndustryKiller! is right...

    by suntzu77

    The only rock band still going in the late 80's was GNR... and they lasted through 94 approx. Grunge put the nail in the head for "hair bands" in general... Warrant... Poison... all that type of crap. Nirvana was pivotal. Good news is that Soundgarden is back together. Faith No More is back together... and STP are doing their thing. I can't think of one pivotal band yet in the 00's.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:35:41 PM CDT

    My pivotal bands list...

    by suntzu77

    Chuck Berry, The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Nirvana, NIN.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:36:25 PM CDT

    I agree

    by robfrombackeast

    100%. Bored the shit out of me and I didnt mind some of the other Dunes remakes. This is of a similar quality to The Hitcher. i.e shit

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:36:43 PM CDT

    Doh...

    by suntzu77

    I forgot the Sex Pistols. Chuck Berry, The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, The Sex Pistols, Nirvana, and NIN.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:37:05 PM CDT

    Mr. Profit, Micheal Bay would like nothing more

    by barnaby jones

    than to cover you with vomit. he'll read your post and say, 'because the fans demanded it'.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:38:54 PM CDT

    Sooooooo, definitely watch this, right?

    by paragoncomplex

    Err, Beaks, you do realize that people are going to watch this movie for the simple fact you seemingly loathe and despise it just to see why you hate it so much.. right?

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:39:20 PM CDT

    Thought this would happen

    by captain rawbeard

    I enjoyed TCM remake but wasn't brilliant, didn't bother with sequel, didn't think much of the Friday 13th reboot, and had expressed concerns that they would totally cock up this Nightmare On Elm Street remake, So far its sounds like I was correct. Will still see it but in UK we get Iron Man 2 this weekend and Nightmare on Elm Street next weekend.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:40:43 PM CDT

    All these half assed remakes

    by mr. profit

    Are starting to make people welcome the news of "Scream 4". I saw the poster for it yesterday that said "New Decade, New Rules" and hoped that it would be a take on remakes.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:42:33 PM CDT

    SunTzu

    by industrykiller!

    I like your style hoss. Good call on the Sex Pistols update, one of my favorite bands of all time, but i will raise your Sex Pistols with a Joy Division. I wish I could also put the Strokes on that list, that first album looked like it was going to do a lot of good as it was a great bit of no bullshit New York scuzz, but then they never followed it up with another good album and none of their peers were of any lasting good in carrying that torch....now we have Lady Gaga, fuck.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:43:12 PM CDT

    Hey Beaks — do you think we should peep this?

    by blakindigo

  • Apr 29, 2010 6:44:22 PM CDT

    A new Scream film is just begging to be made

    by barnaby jones

    It couldn't come at a more apt time. Hopefully it won't called Scream 4 though.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:46:49 PM CDT

    IndustryKiller! - leave The Strokes out of this

    by barnaby jones

    Room On Fire is fantastic. Listened to it today.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:47:39 PM CDT

    Poo

    by entrafis666

    Massa and Beaks confirmed my fears. Sigh. Another crapfest from Platinum Dunes. :(

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:51:05 PM CDT

    Harry is looking more like an ass

    by umbral_shadow_

    with each passing review. Further proof, if any were needed, that he has the critical faculties of a walnut whip. Harry, good on ya for starting this site. Now kindly fuck off and let Beaks and Massa run it.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:53:26 PM CDT

    barnaby, it is called "Scream 4"

    by mr. profit

    And it's starting 3 new movies. All directed by Craven and written by Williamson.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:55:41 PM CDT

    Freddy coming out of the wall.

    by digitalbeachwar

    The "new" CGI effect looks so fucking awful it alone has made up my mind to never see this film. I cannot believe a film today can even make it into the theaters looking the way this film does. Only some asshole will spend money on this pile of shit. That asshole will be the one wearing too much AXE cologne. That asshole will have his collar popped. That asshole will love the film.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:56:46 PM CDT

    They need to come up with something better

    by barnaby jones

    Scream 4 your lives
    Scream Evolution
    I think i heard a Scream 10 years ago
    Scream if James van der Beak is getting a cameo

    Any of those would be great.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:57:22 PM CDT

    Harry supporting new cycle of monster movies... FAIL

    by hellsfoxes

    Because a new era should have its OWN unique monsters, just like the 70's, 80's created leatherface, freddy, pinhead and jason..... ORIGINAL MONSTERS....

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  • Apr 29, 2010 6:59:56 PM CDT

    Best AICN review in a LONG while.

    by kid idioteque

    A few years ago I would have seen this opening weekend. Now, I am older, wiser, and less prone to falling for manure like this. Will not see this weekend. Will not see ever.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:00:12 PM CDT

    Beaks how was the Cock in the film?

    by cockofgod

  • Apr 29, 2010 7:01:04 PM CDT

    Teaser Poster

    by mr. profit

    http://tinyurl.com/25h28ka

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:01:10 PM CDT

    It's offiical - 9% on RT

    by barnaby jones

    My suggestion is, and i feel dirty just thinking about suggesting it, but download this piece of crap if you absoulutely have an itch to scratch.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:01:33 PM CDT

    The Film Has a Zero Rating on Rotten Tomatoes

    by writefromleft

    Zer. Oh.

    Save your money and buy a book to read.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:02:01 PM CDT

    Closest thing to John Lennon was Cobain.

    by gqtaste

    I was born in '74 so I was coming up same time Nirvana and co were. It was a great time, not unlike my parents in the 60's. SOme of you might be too young but you cannot underestimate the power and influence Cobain had on my generation. And he was no studio concoction either. He was the real deal! Now was he an asshole w/ many problems, 100% affirmative. In fact, from what I can tell he really hated being accepted ala Dave Mathews Band. When in fact 99 out of 100 bands want to get the biggest audience possible and make as much money as they can.

    Cobain didn't see it that way sadly. But he was only 27, the same age as Jimmy, Janis and Jimmy Morrison when they all died. Of course the latter three died of overdoses and he a gunshot. I think he was very immature for sure but like I said earlier when it came to lyrics he came as close to Lennon as anybody has since. IMO they were both genius and both troubled w/ family issues from their childhoods. Lennon's w/ his mother and father and feelings of abandonment and Cobain w/ his families divorce when a kid.

    But if you were around when "Nevermind" took MJ out of the number one spot you remember the significance of what Mr. Beaks is referring to. He's 1000% correct in what he said. He did what The Ramones and The Clash didn't do: brought punk rock to the Masses! And he did it better dare I say and that's a bold statement cause I love both bands and think they're both legends! Of course taking out an entire of hair bands as well. And if another example when he died the music industry reverted 180d and brought us Spears, Backsteet boys, and all that other Disney shit. Cobain had the weight of the generation on his back and he couldn't take it. And it was there. My generation looked to him to describe things they couldn't. Just like the '60's you had to be there.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:03:06 PM CDT

    so freddy dies this monday.

    by alice133

    not surprised with the opening weekend target gate grab. surprised they let critics screen it in advance.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:04:05 PM CDT

    lol

    by ginge_muppet

    Harry got PAID!

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:04:10 PM CDT

    Furry Vengeance

    by cockofgod

    I gather if the producers had sucked Harry's little cock, this would have got a glowing review from him too

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:04:14 PM CDT

    Yeah, have already yawned at the poster

    by barnaby jones

    but as teaser, it's just making people aware and in that sense, it's effective.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:06:14 PM CDT

    Mr Beaks

    by victor_kros

    Finally someone understands that plot does matter. Thank you for restoring my faith that there are people out there (even critics) unwilling to accept garbage simply because it can be made, remade, or turned into needless sequels. Harry has no defense against your brisk honesty with his clearly bought off optimism for this film. If the movie stinks, just don't go. Chances are the "real movie" will be on the unrated/expanded edition dvd anyway. Kudos to Wes Craven for creating something people still give a damn about today.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:08:18 PM CDT

    Yeah, for a teaser it worked for me.

    by mr. profit

    And the interview with Craven was pretty interesting: http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/04/29/wes.craven.scream.4.ew/ I guess I'm looking forward to tax day next year...

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:08:30 PM CDT

    and team grunge ftw.

    by alice133

    cobain is great.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:09:03 PM CDT

    SunTzu77 - pivotal bands from the 00's

    by sailor rip

    The Killers.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:09:21 PM CDT

    Nightmare in a Box...

    by red ned lynch

    ...okay, The Box wasn't fascinating and flawed, it was an embarrassing failure that became more nonsensical with each reveal and managed to create not one convincing character. But it was a real attempt to make an original and thought provoking horror movie. You know, it's harder to suffer through a movie like that when it really doesn't work (and The Box really didn't work) than it is to sit through a rehash of a familiar story with familiar characters and beats. There's a reason why passion plays were popular and why Two and Half Men is, too. It doesn't matter that they're bad, there is comfort in the familiarity. But the good things, the new things that will someday be remade, come from people like Kelly who have a vision of their own, who try to at least bend the rules of three acts and a cloud of dust. In the case of Nightmare of the New Millennium you get another helping of what Platinum Dunes has routinely produced; fairly competently made rubbish. The range of quality for their remakes has been the same as the range of quality for a sandwich bought from McDonalds. Sometimes its fresh, and it tastes just good enough you don't feel too bad for eating it (the TCM remake), sometimes it's that thing you're used to, bland, a little reheated but hey, the place is just two blocks away from work (13th remake), and sometimes its that sandwich that's been sitting too long under the heat lamps, bun stale, condiments congealed and meat dessicated (TCM II). The Nightmare remake has been under those lamps for awhile. And yeah, like another horrific remake, The Fog, it seems to have been made with an eye toward reducing strong female characters to whimpering simps. But hey, it's McDonalds, so you know about what it'll taste like. That new Thai place across the street might feed you water bugs on sticks. There's a reason they keep building McDonalds and they keep making movies like this. And yeah, there's a reason we keep seeing them, too.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:10:21 PM CDT

    the first freddy full on gore scene..in the first movie

    by emeraldboy

    goes something like this...johnny depp is in his bed. when suddenly he gets sucked into the middle of the middle of the bed. and by the end of the scene all that remains of him are his guts being gushed up from the middle of his bed to his bedroom ceiling. all the freddy movies, all the jason movies and the halloween movies were all in competition with each other to see who could kill people in the most horrifying ways.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:10:48 PM CDT

    Was there any doubt this movie was in trouble?

    by violator90

    Just from the first look of "New Freddy" you could tell that it was in trouble. Then those trailers which,IMO, made you pity Freddy made this movie more iffy. But come on! Hollywood's track record for even ok to even decent remakes is shitty! That record alone puts me off on remakes. Damn I hate Hollywood.

    I'm reading a book.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:10:49 PM CDT

    Harry Has an Enormous Passion For Movies

    by writefromleft

    And there's nothing wrong with that. I don't think his reviews would be different if he didn't have anything to do with publicizing screenings. If you've ever watched the roundtable discussion on ABC's This Week on Sunday mornings, you sort of have to know who the players are to fully appreciate where their opinions are coming from. Harry's opinions come from his heart. You sort of have to know that to appreciate and evaluate his reviews, which by and large are mostly--but certainly not always--positive.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:13:17 PM CDT

    Craven has got to have a dig at this Nightmare '10 travesty

    by barnaby jones

  • Apr 29, 2010 7:15:36 PM CDT

    the opening in scream..

    by emeraldboy

    remains to this day of the best openings to a film I have ever seen. tense, riveting, nerve shredding, scary as hell. to bad the rest of the movies series stank.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:16:51 PM CDT

    I hate it when...

    by vanchimera

    ... people TELL me to not watch a movie. I'm not your fucking child.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:19:56 PM CDT

    The Killers is a pivotal band!!!???

    by industrykiller!

    Oh come the fuck on. The first album was fun and all (yeah, "fun" would be the right word) but the follow ups were shite. That is not a great band.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:20:06 PM CDT

    vanchimera

    by barnaby jones

    Don't act like a petulant child then ! Boo someone told me what to do. Bah I'm gonna tell them i'm gonna do anyway just to prove point.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:20:45 PM CDT

    Agree to an extent GQtaste—

    by blakindigo

    I think Cobain took the aesthetic of hardcore and made it accessible. For our generation, I think the 2 seminal bands that came from the hardcore era and managed to encapsulate and forecast emerging genres were Nirvana and the Beastie Boys.The rebelliousness posturing of hardcore was transformed into Cobain's poetic diatribes and the brash, anti-establishment rebellion of the Beastie's rap/hardcore hybrids appropriated the swagger of the disenfranchised hip hop generation.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:21:39 PM CDT

    The Killers will prove to be a brilliant band

    by barnaby jones

    and they are, but pivotal, i'm not so sure.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:21:55 PM CDT

    Nirvana...

    by clayg

    Like several others have said, I never understood them. I'm 39, though, and I think I was both older and more literate than their target audience. Mr. Cobain's version of 'singing' was more like mumbling and his guitar playing, at it's VERY best, sounded like a piss-poor imitation of the man many of the Seattle bands called the 'godfather of grunge', Neil Young. Yes, I know, Neil wrote "Sleeps With Angels" about Kurt. That was a kindness. Cobain wasn't fit to lick Neil Young's boot. All Nirvana did for rock was to convince every dumbass teenager who could strum a guitar string that they too could whine about their life and be successful. Fuck Stone Temple Pilots too. They were too talentless even to rip off a *good* band, and are and always have been a coterie of Cobain asslickers. Alice in Chains and Soundgarden were the best bands to come out of the whole grunge wasteland, and they were *metal* bands, not grunge. Good fucking riddance, Nirvana. You want to know where the talent in Kurt Cobain's life was? Listen to a Courtney Love album. I'd rather listen to her anytime.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:22:28 PM CDT

    It's not that we don't like remakes

    by cylon_conspiracy

    it's that we have such high regard for the movies we grew up on that if they get reinvented, we want some respect to the source material. Remakes, by themselves, are ok as long as there is a point. But these days it just seems like "what movie will kids from the 80s, who are now feeling nostalgic for their childhoods, want to see next?"

    If you want to repackage my childhood and sell it back to me, at least put some effort into it, and hire people that love the original. Don't do it by "committee".

    Now if only someone could explain to me the logic behind the Karate Kid remake. It can't appeal to kids from the 80s because Will Smith's kid is like 10 years old, and they've never heard of the original so that's not a selling point. If it's not a selling point why bother making the damn thing? To get their 80s children who are now the parents taking their kids, is probably the reason. But I think everyone is getting sick of having their memories repackaged and diluted.

    Someone let me know when the Top Gun remake gets underway.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:25:18 PM CDT

    "Cobain's version of 'singing' was more like mumbling"

    by industrykiller!

    "and his guitar playing, at it's VERY best, sounded like a piss-poor imitation of the man many of the Seattle bands called the 'godfather of grunge', Neil Young."Jesus, why don't you just tell me to get off your lawn while you're at it.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:26:03 PM CDT

    hahahaha, get off my lawn

    by barnaby jones

    You are so right.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:26:07 PM CDT

    Freddy is a gimmick basically

    by rplocke

    One good movie about 20 years ago. That's about it. He's around because ad wizards like to recycle cheap garbage.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:29:44 PM CDT

    Fuck The Killers. They're already forgotten.

    by juansanchez

  • Apr 29, 2010 7:31:40 PM CDT

    Well, the *Grunge* label wasn't their idea —

    by blakindigo

    that came from rock critics. Kinda how The Talking Heads were considered 'Art Rock' or Sonic Youth were 'Art Noise'. The labeling doesn't illuminate the musician's themes, it's just an easy handle for critics to categorize.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:31:42 PM CDT

    No love for Coldplay ?

    by barnaby jones

  • Apr 29, 2010 7:33:07 PM CDT

    IndustryKiller...

    by clayg

    "Get off my lawn."

    You asked for it :P I hate to be so harsh (well, okay, I don't), but I just don't get it. There are *far* more original and talented guitarists, singers and lyricists in the world. Honestly, I think Cobain would be forgotten now if he weren't dead, especially with the way the music industry loves you one minute and loathes you the next. I forgot to mention that in addition to Alice in Chains and Soundgarden, I did and do love Pearl Jam. Going back to old Neil Y for a moment, I loved "Mirror Ball", the album Neil made with a Vedder-less Pearl Jam as his backing band. I think Eddie might actually do some backing vox on my favorite track from that, "I'm The Ocean."

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:33:47 PM CDT

    The Killers...

    by red ned lynch

    ...are a good band (which only means I like them). And they have inspired plenty of sound-alikes. Pivotal? That's a whole other ballgame there, and nothing to this point suggests they're that. Back to Nightmare, though. Freddie invaded your dreams. In the remake he invades your sleep. Otherwise a micro-nap, where you never experience true REM, wouldn't open the door. Neither would hypnopompic or hypnogogic episodes. This is what led to the Johnny Depp falling asleep before Heather Langencamp went into a dream state scene. And it takes away (I'm ready to be made fun of for this) a lot of the rationale for why Freddie can cross over and do his evil. In short PD traded all the dream logic and surrealism (which is the big get Freddie offers, the only thing that makes him different than any other slasher...his fucking brand!) for the chance to have him hop around without rules. Ahhh...already thought about this movie more than the guys who made it. Done now.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:35:39 PM CDT

    I just knew...

    by blackbriar

    This shitty movie was shit, Friday the 13th sucked also!

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:35:49 PM CDT

    The other thing is —

    by blakindigo

    — Hardcore was never really about technical virtuosity in musicianship. It WAS about experimentation and EMOTION was primary. Listen to Bad Brains, they had both emotion and technical finesse that was unmatched. And, they were jazz musicians originally, so their chops were pretty improvisational at times.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:39:38 PM CDT

    Grunge...

    by red ned lynch

    ...allowed X to get back together for a tour and album. They were like corpses onstage and the best song on the album was worse than any song they had previously released. As X is certainly one of my ten all-time favorite bands and seeing them at the Whiskey-A-Go-Go is one of my fondest musical memories I hold a grunge grudge.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:39:39 PM CDT

    Mr. Profit

    by outlawsdelejos

    I agree he should get another shot, IMDb reports he is working on Battle: Los Angeles. Doubt it'll go ahead, though I agree that Jonathan Liebsman deserves better. The only saving grace from Platinum Dunes thus far was them making sure he didn't walk away from film which I recall he was going to do after the fiasco that was Darkness Falls. Silver lining?

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:40:46 PM CDT

    ClayG - Youre not supposed to get it

    by barnaby jones

    you're old, move on.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:40:47 PM CDT

    Red Ned Lynch

    by blakindigo

    Invading Sleep vs. Dreams? Good call on that, mate. Seriously, why do the producers at PD continually miss these thematic distinctions?I mean, fuck, did you see "Friday the 13th" remake? Christ on bike…

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:42:15 PM CDT

    Blakindigo

    by clayg

    I'm a jazz fan, and a jazz piano player as well. And I do like Bad Brains. Nirvana weren't in their league any more than they were in Neil Young's. Miles Davis, Kurt was not. Hell, he wasn't even Joey Ramone. Now *there* was a great who died before his time.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:43:43 PM CDT

    Nirvana better than The Clash or The Ramones?

    by tedkordlives

    BWAH-HAHAHAHAHA-HAHAHAHAHAHA!! That's some funny shit right there. Get the fuck outta here.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:45:20 PM CDT

    Harry, I will never trust another review from you.

    by i_sharted

    Godzilla 1998, The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Blade II. I could go on. You have watched all of these movies in your life and yet you still can't tell a piece of shit when you see it just because it's shiny and new. I'm not going to accuse you of taking kick backs but it doesn't seem like a stretch considering your glowing reviews of really bad movies. You Harry Knowles are a PLANT. From here on out people should be posting "PLANT" in every one of your reviews because you are the leafiest and greenest of them all sir.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:45:30 PM CDT

    The Smiths

    by cylon_conspiracy

    Kurt Cobain is cool but no one tops Morrissey for being the voice of alienation.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:45:43 PM CDT

    This Freedy Kreuger rapes your childhood

    by slimbutnotreally

    How ironic that a movie about a child rapist is raping the childhoods of people such as myself that grew up on A Nightmare on Elm Street.

    I hope the screenwriters and director all get killed in their sleep by Wes Craven.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:46:19 PM CDT

    7% on rottentomatoes.com - DUH

    by slimbutnotreally

    it sucks....and we all knew it going in. well, those of us with brains did.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:48:06 PM CDT

    Morrissey - now theres an overrated, boring artist

    by barnaby jones

    who should've called it a day yonks ago.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:48:52 PM CDT

    I_Sharted, understood, but in Harry's defense (kind of)

    by slimbutnotreally

    All of those movies sucked. Yes, but I kind of see where Harry is coming from. He's a geek, and it's easy to geek out over something you've longed for. I saw Attack of the Clones twice in theaters and enjoyed it, but now I realize it's a steaming pile of shit. Sometimes you overlook the shit if you're still being entertained. But once you've seen it all (no more surprises) then you are just left with the shit. Harry isn't a plant, he just gets excited for certain movies and he allows the small amount of good parts to overshadow the big, steaming shit pile that is the movie. We've all done it. A LOT of you did it with Avatar. Not me...I knew it was shit.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:52:22 PM CDT

    Power chords never sounded as good b4 or after

    by thejudger

    Nirvana. Fact. It's as if KC used them all up in alls of his songs. A troubled young man who's true reach we never saw. Thanks drugs you fuck shit up good. For me being a teen of that era I would say the masses found him after he died. Like Ledger. I had a odd friend who's mom knew lots of bands like REM and Chillis, she got a Bleach demo tape and that was that. I got pissed at all the posers who leached forth after his death. Say the sytle didnt work for you the fashion trend or whatever. That band fucked the music industry in the ass and sent the hair and pop bands packing.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:53:17 PM CDT

    SlimButNotreally

    by barnaby jones

    Thats true to a point, but an hour or two after you've had such a reaction to a film, your brain engages and whoa hang on a minute...

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:53:47 PM CDT

    MacGruber currently at 100% on Rottentomatoes..... Z

    by ihaveseeneveryepisodeofprisonbreak

    Shows what they know!!!!!

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:54:35 PM CDT

    ClayG, on Kurt Cobains, guitar, voice, and lyrics.

    by industrykiller!

    Look I wouldnt describe Cobain's guitar as technical in any sense, but what it was was evocative. Listen to the opening chords of "Heart Shaped Box" and it perfectly sets up the lumbering dark vision of the rest of the song. As for his voice, the same could be said about Dylan, Iggy Pop, David Bowie, Ian Curtis, Paul Westerberg or any in a long line of brilliant rock singers. Cobain wasn't going to take over for the lead in a production Joseph and The Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat, but who wants that shit anyway? You want great voices, watch the fake societal cancer that is American Idol. Cobains voice was singular and it was honest to a fault. That fucker could EMOTE, and it wasn't theatrical or pretentious.As for his lyrics, so but there's a reason why he's widely considered one of the best of all time. He didn't just sing of pain, he gave it color and form through songs that ranged from the darkly poetic (Polly) to the brilliantly literal (On a Plain). He also had a gutteral wail like a chainsaw (France Farmer will Have Her Revenge on Seattle)> You are free to not like it, but any guy who consistently writes lyrics of such simplistic brilliance like "I'm not like them, but I can pretend" is A-O-Fucking-Kay with me.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:55:42 PM CDT

    Kurt Cobain ≠ Miles Davis

    by blakindigo

    Ah…hell no…I do like Kurt Cobain's lyrical content. He DID have a poetic sense in his lyrics and a precise image system.But, he wasn't Neil Young. I think if he had lived, gotten a chance to mature a bit, become less self-reflexive and emotionally distant, he might've been able to capture something closer to Neil Young.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:55:54 PM CDT

    Cylon's right

    by flexfill

    Morrissey is the enigma who defined the entire concept of not fitting in to a generation +.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:58:01 PM CDT

    i is drinking

    by thejudger

    cause iz a sad day. Do we win. will the corpse horror remake rape trend seppuku? Please tell me we blew up the deathstar know as PD. I know there's only a small 2 meter wide womp rat sized hole of penetrability, but if's we tries, wiz da force as our allies, maybes we winz?!?!?!?!

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  • Apr 29, 2010 7:58:22 PM CDT

    Slimbutnotreally...

    by red ned lynch

    ...yeah, I'll cut some slack for that. I've had to go through the stages of grief for Romero, Carpenter and a few others before I got to the point where I could admit they'd made a bad movie. Even with the Phantom Menace, a little. But that's based on specific childhood memories, nostalgia and loyalty. And it's not nearly every movie that comes out. It's not a remake from a company that exists to make remakes and hasn't made an inspired one yet. At some point, whatever the motivation for the review, you become useless as a reviewer. Now Harry isn't for me. I enjoy reading his reviews because they're so effulgent, so brimming with geeky, goofy, often incomprehensible excitement. But he is useless as a barometer for whether a film is any good.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:00:53 PM CDT

    So, did Beaks like it or not?

    by soylentmean

    There's so much other shit to see and do than this movie. I'll probably check it out when it hits home video, but if it ain't Robert Englund, it ain't Freddy.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:01:20 PM CDT

    In Nightmare it looks like we have frontrunner

    by barnaby jones

    for this years Razzies.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:03:27 PM CDT

    Hendrix and Kurt

    by thejudger

    Same not so pretty voices, poets ok. Understand why the voice wasn't pretty. It didn't have to be. Power chords fucker. Best combos of those chords ever= Nirvana. No one ever recaptured that. The Vines tried and failed. Negative Creep always remond me of the Reese pipe bomb Terminator Road chase music for some odd reason.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:04:08 PM CDT

    Harry's review of "Minority Report" —

    by blakindigo

    — stunned me. Seriously, I don't think I've recovered from that one…

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:04:10 PM CDT

    Anyone dissing Nirvana is a pussy

    by umbral_shadow_

    They were the last band that really, truly mattered. Simple as.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:05:26 PM CDT

    Blakindigo, Cobain emotionally distant??

    by industrykiller!

    Ummmmm, no.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:06:12 PM CDT

    No way the Killers are a 'pivotal' band

    by kevred

    One good album, which was great in places, and then straight downhill. Which disappointed me, because they started with an exciting sound. But - pfft.The Strokes have to redeem themselves form that awful 3rd album. If they can just knock it out of the park with their 4th record, they can retire with legacy intact.King Crimson rules every other band from the early 70s on.Most of the post-Beatles bands being listed here are just novelties - flashes in the pan who only inspired a small niche group, and not in the culturally significant Velvet Underground way.Even Nirvana runs out of truly classic songs very quickly. We may be past the age of universal cultural significance in artists.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:07:11 PM CDT

    blakindigo

    by barnaby jones

    Minority Report is absolute class, i can't fathom that one either.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:07:15 PM CDT

    saying the unplugged was bad

    by thejudger

    fuck off, best cover of Man Who Sold the World Ever. Bring Pat Smear back to Foo Davige..

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:09:11 PM CDT

    We may be past the age of universal cultural significance in art

    by barnaby jones

    Thats because there artist saturation unlike ever before. It'll never happen again.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:11:27 PM CDT

    kevred

    by barnaby jones

    There was notalot wrong with The Strokes third album, it just wasn't exactly inspired, thats all. Casablancas solo effort was probably better.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:12:37 PM CDT

    Slimbutnotreally, agreed on Avatar.

    by i_sharted

    What an overrated piece of shit. It's hard to understand why people are so easily amused and distracted by the 'splosions and 3D to notice the plot is shit. The problem is Harry doesn't let reason sink in before he posts his bullshit reviews. People then pay good money for a shit film that this asshole recommended.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:13:19 PM CDT

    http://tinyurl.com/2e5wdzc

    by gqtaste

    somebody dare say this isn't rockign the fuck out: http://tinyurl.com/2e5wdzc

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:14:37 PM CDT

    Damn straight, Soylent Mean

    by daggor

    Englund could have pulled off a sinister Freddy. He uses his eyes to make Freddy a lively predator. We have plenty of dead-eyed monster slashers.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:19:21 PM CDT

    One more thing.

    by i_sharted

    I don't think Harry is literally an asshole. You can tell he's a super nice guy but he lacks the objectivity to review a movie with any accuracy. Am I saying I could do better? Hell fucking yes I could.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:20:03 PM CDT

    Thats what casting agencies look for when casting sex offenders

    by barnaby jones

    Lively eyes

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:20:17 PM CDT

    Oh and if there was a God

    by i_sharted

    His name would be Kurt Cobain.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:21:19 PM CDT

    Surprised?!?!

    by bluehawaiisurfer

    Put away the shovel, quit digging up the past, and make a new fucking movie already. For fuck's sake if I had to grow up enduring "Creature From the Black Lagoon 12" I would have cut my fucking wrists. Let it go Hollywood.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:24:08 PM CDT

    Avatar

    by barnaby jones

    Avatar is an example to Platinum Dunes and the rest. People flocked to see it because it offered something new, not in plot obviously, but when you've been starved for so long, a little goes along way.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:26:12 PM CDT

    Kurt Cobain was the original EMO KID

    by mobileaccess

    He spawned a generation of emos. That's why he killed himself.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:27:09 PM CDT

    Oh and he fucked skank face Courtney Love

    by mobileaccess

    another reason to kill yourself.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:27:11 PM CDT

    greatoz......awesome

    by charabicharabia

    Michael bay should consider casting another great independent actor to play howard the duck 10....or will it be 11?
    I can't make up my mind about Nightmare...Harry says yes and Beaks says so....but then Beaks says no...I probably won't make up my mind until the film is on Netflix.... I shall remain opinionless until then !

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:27:15 PM CDT

    As I said in Harry's review

    by godmars

    He'll be the only one who will give it a positive review, anywhere. Harry's reviews are dishonest and irrelevant.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:27:17 PM CDT

    I would have never guessed...

    by obiben

    ...from watching the trailer.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:31:18 PM CDT

    Courtney Love was on Letterman last night

    by rplocke

    She was her usual skanky self.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:34:39 PM CDT

    As far as Curt Cobain..

    by nostairway

    Has any other musician ever become so famous for releasing one good album? If Nirvana isn't the most overated band of all time I don't know who is.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:37:10 PM CDT

    Lemmings

    by le phantom

    Save your breath, indiscriminate boneheads will march out in force and shell out their parents hard green to see this dreck!
    I repeat the 2000's have been the worst decade for films EVER!

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:37:18 PM CDT

    wtf?

    by yubnubrocks

    Who to believe?

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:40:11 PM CDT

    Strippers

    by le phantom

    Hollywood has become a lot like strippers...They dance and jiggle and dress nice and always make you feel like you are a heartbeat away from a blow job! Then they take your money and leave you high and dry! I respect whores a lot more because you know exactly what you are going to get for your money!

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:40:47 PM CDT

    good on ya beaks

    by waka_flocka

    fuck these remakes

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:41:55 PM CDT

    4 good albums

    by elsewhere

    Bleach, Nevermind, Incesticide and In Utero.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:43:23 PM CDT

    Grunge took all the fun out of being a teenager

    by professor_monster

    Whe this shit hit the scene I was kicking over into my twenties, but as I would look over my shoulder from time to time I felt sorry for the kids who had to live with Rap and Grunge as their soundtrack when Def Leppard, Michael jackson and the rest of the Mtv powerhouses just led my generation through a video revolution when chics wore super tight pants and teased hair and loved to fuck. Grunge gave way to combat boots and flannel - the lesbian threads of choice. The good times were missed by you if Nirvana's album rings your bell.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:44:49 PM CDT

    IndustryKiller! — Not Cobain's music, but his persona.

    by blakindigo

    He was the perennial 'wounded soul' that would never let people past his pain. And if that's all there is to a person then that makes seem a bit too shallow and self-involved. Cobain was NOT shallow, but he wasn't the most emotionally inviting person.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:48:31 PM CDT

    Did I miss something

    by phategod2

    What the Fuck does Nirvana have to do with Nightmare. IF someone makes a obscure remark about a cultural lexicon does it have to foster scores of remarks let me try. Wasn't Scooby-doo the dumbest Fucking cartoon? wouldn't have been cool if it was shaggy getting high with a big talking Great Dane?

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:50:06 PM CDT

    Professor_Monster

    by elsewhere

    So you listened to your Cinderella albums throughout the 90's?

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:52:21 PM CDT

    ...no Queens of the Stone Age love?

    by yourstepdaddy

  • Apr 29, 2010 8:53:47 PM CDT

    Professor_Monster, nope. That's inaccurate…

    by blakindigo

    I think you can include 'all of the above' when the 'hair bands' got stale, 'rap' moved from 'The Fat Boys' to 'Public Enemy', the girls still wore tight clothes (the fly girls on 'In Living Colour' ring a bell? Or Neneh Cherry?) and music shifted from 'spectacle' to the emotion.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 8:56:38 PM CDT

    Phategod2 — It's all good.

    by blakindigo

  • Apr 29, 2010 8:59:36 PM CDT

    As far as Nirvana being overrated and unrevolutionary....

    by harryizafaggot

    You guys are just fucking dumb. I must admit that I was late in coming around to them. I preferred NIN and other Alt bands of the early 90's. I think I might have even given them the lable of "overrated monkey garbage". But that's before I really started to listen to them (which was well after Kurts death). They definitely changed the music scene. They came out when the charts were ruled by Awful-pussy-metal-hairbands and homo-synth-pop. They single handedly put that shit to sleep, and we're all better for it. Nirvana hated the fake-plastic-underhanded music industry just like you AICN talkbackers hate the fake-plastic-underhanded movie industry. Is there anyone more irrational that a AICN talkbacker?

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:01:47 PM CDT

    Professor Monster.

    by i_sharted

    No need to feel sorry for us. We actually feel sorry for you and we had a great time feeling like we could change the world. I mean if you like corporate rock bands who manufacture music instead of creating it then it is you not us that should be pitied.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:09:26 PM CDT

    RadioHead Is The Best Band Out There

    by manzilla

    Better than Nirvana ever was, yeah that's right I said it, now fuck off. But no band tops the mightiness of GUNS & ROSES back in the day...

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:18:35 PM CDT

    Grunge and emo are not the same

    by nerd rage

    Grunge is closer to punk than to emo.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:19:09 PM CDT

    Nirvana is totally overrated but they happened to be...

    by mr. nice gaius

    ...in the right place at the right time. Unfortunately, that spelled doom for Cobain (who is also singularly overrated, IMHO) and doomed rock radio/video formats to a formula that would dominate the airwaves for far too long.Now, this is a fucking fact: there was nothing artistically achieved by Nirvana that hadn't already been done by folks such as Bob Mould (Husker Du & Sugar), Dinosaur Jr., The Pixies, Sonic Youth, etc. NOTHING. However, they were significant because when they first hit the airwaves, it was the first time the young public-at-large had heard anything with a modicum of substance to it.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:24:35 PM CDT

    Manzilla... I bought OK computer because

    by murdermostfowl

    It made the Rolling stone's "#1 album of all time" or someshit like that.

    To this day I haven't been able to get all the way through the album. Oh my god I don't see the attraction.

    I feel like I'm reliving college again and my roommate is trying to get me to listen to his Yes albums because of how amazing they are.

    I mean I guess to each his own, and they're a hell of alot better than 90% of the pop/hip hop drivel end up hearing sometimes when I get the itch to see if there's anything good about "current" music trends. I would sooner set fire to my ears than listen to that shit, so I guess Radiohead is great in that sense, but jesus... how can you not think of killing yourself with a butter knife when listening to that album?

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  • 10% on RT. I'm thinking the other guys that saw this just had a good atmosphere to watch movies, or AICN put up the only 2 positive reviews they could find. I guess a certain amount of shilling for the man when the studio pays for a special screening.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:28:50 PM CDT

    You know, Gaius...

    by clayg

    I agreed with you right up until you described Nirvana as having 'a modicum of substance,' And it wouldn't be that hard for those kids to have done some digging and actually HEARD Husker Du, Pixies, Sonic Youth, et al. All brilliant bands, I agree.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:29:43 PM CDT

    Radiohead = Erectile Dysfunction

    by harryizafaggot

  • Apr 29, 2010 9:30:15 PM CDT

    Nirvana had songs as catchy as pop music

    by nerd rage

    but were also as brutally honest and socially relevent as punk/grunge underground. That's what seperated them from anyone else. The mainstream hasn't experienced anything like them since.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:32:51 PM CDT

    A Micheal Bay production talkback

    by nerd rage

    has been hijacked by Nirvana. Nice.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:33:13 PM CDT

    Nirvana was in the right place at the right time

    by manzilla

    They were a great band, no doubt. But they wouldnt have half the legacy if kurt hadnt blown his head off...

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:33:33 PM CDT

    Radiohead...

    by clayg

    ...made exactly two decent albums. OK Computer and Kid A. Kid A, of the two, is the one worth owning. Thom Yorke can't write a song worth a damn without a computer. And I pity the generation that equates Radiohead with Pink Floyd or Yes. Not even close.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:33:35 PM CDT

    Darabont on 3?

    by mostholy

    Just watched the original for the first time in maybe 15 years. Never noticed the EVIL DEAD reference before. It's a movie of its time, and it's not gonna scare me like it did when I was 10. Still, not bad.

    Just popped in 3, the other one I remember liking a lot, and Frank Darabont has a screenwriting cred? Never knew that.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:36:08 PM CDT

    MurderMostFowl

    by manzilla

    I didnt think they were that great at first either. Some music is instantly enjoyable, other music takes time to grow on you. Radiohead is an aquired taste that takes time to appreciate.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:37:14 PM CDT

    Nightmare 3...

    by clayg

    If you could put the non-jokey, dark Freddy of the original somehow into the fantastic plot of Dream Warriors, you'd have the best movie of the series. As it is, Dream Warriors is still the second best.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:38:12 PM CDT

    Radiohead = Bulls Milk

    by harryizafaggot

    Because if you like it...there's something wrong with you.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:39:57 PM CDT

    Nirvana isn't Elm Street

    by beniffer

    I like Nirvana, would I say Smells like teen spirit is a culturally important single? Sure, before that we had MJ at #1.

    This movie sounds horrible, idea is horrible, everything about remakes are horrible.

    If Harry loved it, so be it. I think Harry is the BIG KID we all want to be but can't be. As most of us have grown up and have families to take care of now.

    I was born '74. Old fart now but who cares? Cultural phenoms ... meh .. next week it's something else .. week after it's something else that is worse ... repeat forever ..

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:40:57 PM CDT

    ClayG

    by mr. nice gaius

    Are you saying that Nirvana didn't have a modicum of substance? I was trying to imply that they had more substance than what was passing as rock music in those days (i.e. hair metal).Conversely, the kids who would do the digging for those other bands probably already did. But there was/is a much larger population out there that just sucks up whatever is tossed onto the airwaves. And that's where Nirvana/Seattle/grunge found paydirt.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:46:54 PM CDT

    No nine minute rape scene, no homosexual bludgeoning...

    by burnhollywood

    Yeah, I can see why Beaks would be upset...this is clearly not "art".

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:47:12 PM CDT

    Nirvana doesn't need me to defend them...

    by mostholy

    But, yeah, they changed the music scene entirely. (I'm born in '74 also.) Grunge killed the Hair Metal star but good.

    I wasn't a huge fan in their prime, I had NEVERMIND like everyone else. But they grew on me, and I really think that UNPLUGGED album showed Cobain's potential, before he got sick of it all and checked out.

    Then again, same old sad song, same old story. See also: Ian Curtis, Jimi Hendrix, etc. etc.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 9:51:04 PM CDT

    They already did a sinister as fuck Freddy

    by soylentmean

    in New Nightmare. Michael Myers and Jason Voorhees are iconic for their appearance, Freddy is iconic for his appearance and the character, as brought to life by Robert Englund.

    It seems like a very golden opportunity to "resurrect" Freddy for a new generation was thrown to the remake wolves. It also seems like Jackie Earle Haley is gonna be typecast as the go to guy when casting directors are looking for a creepy pedopervert. AND THAT'S IT!

    Which sucks, because I thought he was brilliant as Rorshach.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 10:00:33 PM CDT

    King Missle

    by beniffer

    That was my 90's ... great stuff .. cept detachable penis ... and it was the hit .. sad

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  • Apr 29, 2010 10:12:26 PM CDT

    It's time for new horror icons not rehashed ones

    by thejudger

    the universal monsters the modren day slashers. So far this genration has a littlegirl with a comb over and guy who hides behind a camera. fuck off wiht that hacthet face poormans madman marz fucker and that lizzy guy. This generation deserves a better madman/woman. Hoe fucking hard can it be. They either wear a fucked up mask, or they have creepy cool weapon. They kill/torment real people who look like real people that the audiance can relate too and they meet their match in one of them. whos strong enough to stay alive and fight back. No more Freddys Jasons Michaels or Sawyers. Origins unknown or very shaded. Lust to kill or revenge. You can do it. Fuck the 80's proved it could be done several times a year. Give this "generation fucked" something to eat will ya!

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  • Apr 29, 2010 10:21:35 PM CDT

    Harry now rips on his own writers in their own TBs?

    by subtitles_off

    Agree with me! Agree with me! I'm gonna hold my breath unless you agree with me! Agree with me! I'm enthusiastic! I don't know a millionth about film compared to Roger Ebert, but I think I'm on his level because Jon Favreau called me up, crying! Agree with me! Lest you think I can't write a coherent sentence - agree with me! Agree with me!

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  • Apr 29, 2010 10:26:17 PM CDT

    Oh so this is a talkbalk about Nirvana

    by mikeysquirrel

    I thought it was about Nightmare On Elm Street. Silly me.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 10:29:58 PM CDT

    real horror vs. slasher flicks

    by cloudrider`

    rosemary's baby, ringu, the exorcist, omen, poltergeist, the thing, etc etc. these are real horror films. these boogeymen in a stupid mask with sharp objects as weapon as not horror. they're comedy. C-O-M-E-D-Y, as in funny ha-ha. myers, jason, freddy, these bozos are one and the same and they're all equally funny and equally stupid. let them die already. the fact they are STILL to these days popular and get sequels made and remade ad nauseum is indicative of the lousy taste of certain segment of the audience. just like the twilight franchise has young girls to blame for its existence, the blood and gore crowd is to blame for the continuing popularity of these horror-wannabes.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 10:37:00 PM CDT

    Are micronaps better than wetnaps?

    by benovite1

    Not the soapy kind but the spermy variety, cause I wouldn't want Freddy interrupting my wetnap!

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  • Apr 29, 2010 10:38:18 PM CDT

    Serbian Centipede On Elm Street

    by nippleeffect

    that's the movie they should have made

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  • Apr 29, 2010 10:58:41 PM CDT

    Haley will be typecast...

    by greyspecter

    ...only if studio execs are idiots. Which they are, so you're probably right. But his work on Human Target shows he's got more range than Rorschach/Krueger

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  • Apr 29, 2010 11:04:49 PM CDT

    This must be really boring movie

    by rplocke

    if we're talking about Nirvana.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 11:13:22 PM CDT

    All the folks here that...

    by harold-sherbort

    Don't like Nirvana, what do you consider to be good music?

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  • Apr 29, 2010 11:14:28 PM CDT

    The Fact of the matter is.......

    by d o o d

    if this movie was half decent and I'm only asking for HALF decent. Then would there be such a huge differing in opinion.I think the truth is that this movie probably blows and the only ones that will like it are the fans of the original and possible shitty movies like Scream.I'd just like to thank Mr Beaks for saving me another $15!

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  • Apr 29, 2010 11:19:54 PM CDT

    Nirvana killed hair metal?

    by kevred

    Ratt and the Scorpions have new albums coming out soon. The headlines are full of Bret Michaels. Def Leppard had a hugely successful tour last year (and yes, I know they're more than just a hair band). Dokken shows up in TV commercials.That's just what I can think of offhand. Not so dead, huh?

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  • Apr 29, 2010 11:29:49 PM CDT

    Radiohead Radiohead Radiohead!

    by the war against giygas

    How has not a single person on this entire thread not mentioned Radiohead as culturally significant? They're one of the very few bands of the 90's-00's that will even be considered for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yeah, yeah, say what you will about Kid A. I know bunches of people hate that album, but you can't deny it's impact either. They are truly the last rock band to mix artistic credibility with assloads of money and success.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 11:33:57 PM CDT

    Nevermind.

    by the war against giygas

    Went a little too far ahead to post my remark. But the point remains the same. Not liking them is one thing, but saying they're bad is just silly.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 11:36:56 PM CDT

    Not to mention..

    by the war against giygas

    Most "hair bands" that are still performing are making a living off of either the novelty being a "hair band," the fact that a majority of their fans haven't really evolved much in their music taste, or sell CDs and tickets because they're a widely-watched television trainwreck like Bret Michaels.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 11:44:12 PM CDT

    Stop It

    by come_on

    Ok, so some of you don't like Nirvana, and I realize with most people thinking they are the center of the universe that must mean Nirvana was never popular or important. "I hate them, therefore they never mattered." The sadness and pettiness of the human ego is astounding. Fucking selfish, self-absorbed little brats.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 11:45:28 PM CDT

    Subtitles_Off

    by come_on

    Yes, he does, because that is what children do. That and use horrible grammar.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 11:46:50 PM CDT

    Hair bands fizzled out in the early 90's and grunge was...

    by thanos0145

    the new sound that people wanted to listen to. I liked Nirvana but loved Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 11:46:52 PM CDT

    The War Against Giygas

    by manzilla

    Amen Brother, I dont know why Radiohead isnt more popular with the mainstream. Simply put, they are one of the finest bands ever.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 11:50:25 PM CDT

    Im going to see Elm Street just because Beaks hates it

    by manzilla

    Because his best of the decade list sucked ass and I know what kind of movies he likes.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 11:51:15 PM CDT

    MANZILLA

    by the war against giygas

    I remember an old Kid Rock video(the song title escapes me at the moment), where he's in the bathroom on the toilet, and he reaches over to grab Radiohead toilet paper. Maybe he poisoned the minds of lemmings world-wide. Seriously, though, they are a HUGE band. They just alienate as many people as they inspire.

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  • Apr 29, 2010 11:58:02 PM CDT

    Forgot to mention..

    by the war against giygas

    that I fucking despise Kid Rock with a seething, hate-filled passion. But that goes without saying. In regards to this movie however, I never really cared to see it. Maybe it's because I was a wuss when I was little and didn't watch the Elm Street films until I was in my late teens, when they all just looked campy and cheap(with the exception of the first film which is pretty good in my book). Haley casting is brilliant. but that was the only enthusiasm I could muster after the trailers. Oddly enough, my girlfriend, roommate, and a couple of friends are at a midnight screening as I type this.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 12:00:27 AM CDT

    LIVE AT READING

    by frank cotton

    26 fucking songs! think i'll put that on right now. frank has tunes by only four 80s bands - GnR, DEVO, BIG COUNTRY, and U2. and there are lots of good 90s acts - QUICKSAND, JAWBOX, PURE, RIDE, CELL, CORROSION OF CONFORMITY, NAIL BOMB, MANSON, SCREAMING TREES, SOCIAL DISTORTION, HORTON FUCKIN' HEAT...ON TOPIC: the way they slapped this film together so fast, how could it NOT suck? you want a new horror icon? get frank in front of a camera - you'll never forget his face

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  • Apr 30, 2010 12:21:03 AM CDT

    Harold....any music is good music compared to Nirvana.

    by hint_of_smegma

    I don't like to be too irrational when posting but I fucking hated that band. Smells Like teen spirit? Not fucking likely. Sounds like a racoon knocking over bins while a 56 year old drunk mumbles through a loudhailer. Fucking awful. Now, back to this Elm Street debacle........I'm really hoping this is a case of reviewers going overboard because at worst, this remake has to be better than Dream Child and Freddy's Dead.....because if it's worse, my mind is going to implode.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 12:32:37 AM CDT

    Emo isn't even a real genre of music

    by slimbutnotreally

    The term "emo" was created to put people down, really. No one really wants to call themselves "emo" because it implies that you're a total fag. Back before emo, you basically had "Grunge" and "Alternative"....alternative became emo when people wanted to bash alternative music more than they arleady were. Now, don't get me wrong....there is this weird noisy loud screaming shit that people refer to as emo but to me that's goth music...except some goth music is like black metal, so it's tough to distinguish.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 12:35:17 AM CDT

    http://twitter.com/AintItFatNews

    by hairyknollstwitter

    http://twitter.com/AintItFatNews

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  • Apr 30, 2010 12:39:43 AM CDT

    I hated hair metal, for what it's worth...

    by clayg

    I was, and am, a fan of *real* heavy metal, like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Fates Warning, etc. Unfortunately, while they were killing 'hair metal', the fucking grunge bands also killed off the then-considerable audience for *actual* metal in the United States--bands that were both melodic and literate--and replaced it with, as I've said, vapid, depressive, and atonal garbage. Thank the gods that there was still real music to listen to while the mainstream rock world was being raped into ruin by Nirvana and its clones. Glad the grunge fad is dead and gone.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 12:48:11 AM CDT

    Back to Elm Street...

    by clayg

    ...speaking of hair metal, that "Dream Warriors" song that Dokken wrote for Nightmare 3 was a memorable bit of fluff.

    I have cautious hopes for the remake. I'll be seeing it tomorrow at 1:30 PM...I'm hoping it's decent, and I wouldn't dream of not seeing it to find out for myself.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 1:05:16 AM CDT

    Saw it same night Harry did, unimpressed

    by kanocain

    Okay, so I liked Jackie in the role. He's way better than Englund because he was more visceral and a lot less campy (or jokey). But I thought this version was uninspired especially where the nightmare scenes were concerned. Who can forget Freddy's 20 ft. arms in the alleyway from the first movie? That's pretty creepy stuff. Done today, it should have blown the doors off the 80s version. But this movie wasn't creepy. It was just a bunch of BLAAA! from the left and BLAAA! from the right with a lot of loud sound system spurts that played off your natural reflexes. And you become numb to that after a while. There wasn't a single scene that made me think back and go: Wow that's gonna fuck me up for weeks!

    And what was with the industrial boiler room scenes? It had nothing to do with the story. Can't tell you much there without blowing it. I guess it was an homage to the original? I think the bloody hall scene that Beaks was talking about was kind of a reminder of how slow you run away from a bad guy in a dream. It didn't bother me really. Could've been better.

    My ultimate problem was the dream sequences. They didn't seem surreal enough to be dreams. They came off as: here's real life and here's real life with Freddy. A nightmare should be eerie, surreal, mind boggling, and disturbing. It should be something that was so weird that when you get home, you're afraid to look in the closet. This was not.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 1:14:56 AM CDT

    Jackie Earle Haley gotta eat

    by flexfill

    well, the other guy didn't post it ye.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 1:17:40 AM CDT

    ClayG

    by blakindigo

    *Real* Heavy Metal was getting flatlined critically by bands like Metallica and Exodus and Slayer in the late 80's.And sorry, the 'vapid, depressive and atonal garbage' had a lot more to say lyrically than someone like Dio (when he slacked). The thing about hardcore was that they talked about something intangible and emotional. Lyrically can you compare Maiden to Black Flag, or 7 seconds? All these influences were addressed by Nirvana — they responded with poetic rants. As good as a band like Maiden was/is they weren't really stretching the boundaries of content. Just more amazing guitar solos and catchy choruses. Nirvana was angst contained in words. Like it or not but, at least put it in context.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 1:18:33 AM CDT

    yet

    by flexfill

  • Apr 30, 2010 2:04:01 AM CDT

    there are thousand of pro critics......

    by thedannerdaliel

    therefore as many diffrent opinions. And then you have the movie goers themselves. I remember seeing the english patient and thinking what the fuck is this and how the fuck did this win so many oscars. Its just diffrent opinions all round. The important thing is that I FUCKING SAW MJØLNIR 3 DAYS AGO!!!!!! WHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO Ill see this movie some other time.....

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  • Apr 30, 2010 2:41:52 AM CDT

    Remake of classic 80s movie turns out to be bad

    by kwisatzhaderach

  • Apr 30, 2010 3:02:35 AM CDT

    Can this be? I'm going to agree with Mr Beaks?

    by asimovlives

    Open the champagne bottle! Pull out the flutes. This deserves celebration!

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  • Apr 30, 2010 3:03:03 AM CDT

    Shut up about Freddy.

    by optimuscrime

    This is a Nirvana talkback. Also, did you notice how Harry claimed to be preparing a vitriolic tirade against the movie? I call shenanigans. He creams his pants if he recognizes anything from his childhood in a movie. He cried during Crystal Skull. I hate Beaks, but Massa says it sucked and Harry loved it. It is guaranteed shit.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 3:20:32 AM CDT

    So, Mr Beaks is no longer friends with Michael Bay?

    by asimovlives

    The romance is over.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 3:22:39 AM CDT

    Did Harry accidentally watch the original?

    by drsambeckett1984

    I saw Iron Man last night and it was great, everyone go and see that instead.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 3:32:11 AM CDT

    The producers are the same assclowns...

    by asimovlives

    ... who made THE HITCHER? That explains it.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 3:34:33 AM CDT

    This review/talkback illustrates why Drew left...

    by workshed

    Harry, why do you constantly sabotage the credibility of the site man. You're fucking crazy to write that review. Makes it look like you're on the take and not a purist geek in love with the horror genre like you constantly profess (you certainly don't deserve the title of Headgeek anymore, no way). Sure, Beaks writes 80% of his reviews like he's been the subject of a full-frontal lobotomy but no-one can doubt his frustration with you. Remember when Charles finishes Jedediah's review? Why don't you just do that from now on. A very sad day for AICN. Worse than the Blade II orgasm.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 3:52:21 AM CDT

    Nirvana was great

    by asimovlives

    A breath of fresh air in the stale musical scene in the early 90s, which was fill with the fetid stench of 80s popcrap.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 3:53:58 AM CDT

    Drsambeckett1984

    by asimovlives

    Thanks for the advice, friend. I plan to.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 3:59:52 AM CDT

    Great post Blakindigo

    by industrykiller!

    I think Metal is fun like everyone else, but they sing about fucking witches in the woods. Bands like Iron Maiden are predicated on fantasy. It's totally removed from any insight.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 4:11:40 AM CDT

    Plant?

    by hoisin

    or perhaps not. nice to get some perspective on what was becoming a freddy love-in

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  • Apr 30, 2010 4:16:21 AM CDT

    workshed

    by asimovlives

    Blade II orgasm? What in the bloody hell is that?

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  • Apr 30, 2010 4:20:40 AM CDT

    IndustryKiller!

    by asimovlives

    I would agree, but then Iron Maiden made the album SOMEWHERE IN TIME, which was their loveletter to Science Fiction, specifically BLADE RUNNER, and that's why they are the coolest dudes in Heavy Metal. They were also the most sophisticated composers of heavy metal music, all of them had classic music training, and it shows in their musics. It's no idle boast. You can pick up many of the Iron Maiden music and play them with an orquestra, and it works brillantly.I'm no metalhead, but Iron Maiden gets my respect anyday of the week. Those guys were brillant.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 4:32:15 AM CDT

    Beaks, leave this site before it ruins your credbility

    by ghostdad

    Seriously. I was thinking about it while driving home from this abortion and I realized something. For all the claims he makes of wanting to save hollywood, Harry has done more to bring about this era of intellectual bankruptcy to anyone else. Harry provides Hollywood with a direct way to buy credtbility.. they feed his ego and he praises their work. This movie was BOOED at the theater I saw it at. 17 year old kids who've probably never seen the original actually booed when the credits rolled. This will be one of the most reviled cash grabs of all time, yet Plat Dunes has their glowing AICN review, and they can say "Look, we have credibility with the fanboys!" It's not just Harry, but it started with him. The internet is no longer an alternative to the old media, internet reviews, with a few exceptions, are have shown to be people who don't so much care about film as they do rubbing elbows with celebrities who pretend to like them, living out their fantasies of being movie stars, writers and directors without actually having the talent to do so. I like you, Beaks, I like Capone, I like Massa, but you're the band playing on the titanic.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 4:36:23 AM CDT

    GhostDad

    by asimovlives

    Mr Beak ruiend his credibility when he wrote that infamous glowing review for BAD BOYS II. He dared compare Michael Bay with Samuel Beckett. You never recuperate from such a faux pas.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 4:48:17 AM CDT

    here we are now

    by the_crimson_king

    entertain us

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  • Apr 30, 2010 4:49:23 AM CDT

    I fucking love Iron Maiden

    by the_crimson_king

    just thought I'd throw that out there

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  • Apr 30, 2010 4:54:01 AM CDT

    any predictions as to the end of remake fever?

    by brabon300

    it really has gotten silly

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  • Apr 30, 2010 5:05:55 AM CDT

    Gee Beaks, who to believe?

    by jaylenotookmyjob

    Harry loved it... said it ws "effin' 'mazin'"... who... to... believe? (chortle) Yes, as a matter of fact, that is sarcasm! Don't worry, I was planning on avoiding this one like the plague anyway. (Christ man, Harry, in his middle age, is getting to be just like that "Blurb-o-Mat" guy in the old Spy Magazine back in the day, except frighteningly, Harry's for real!)

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  • Apr 30, 2010 5:09:58 AM CDT

    Jaden Smith - Nightmare on My Street 2010

    by iowa snot client

    What hasn't this happened yet? Is that you, God?

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  • Apr 30, 2010 5:13:09 AM CDT

    12% positive reviews over at Rotton Tomatoes

    by thatswhatshesaid

    Guess that is a good tie breaker between Beaks and Harry.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 5:13:57 AM CDT

    brabon300

    by ghostdad

    Remake fever will continue until s remake comes along that bombs so badly it totally kills the fad, like how Batman and Robin killed comic book movies for a while. I'm not talking about something poorly reviewed, or else we'd be out of this dark time, I'm talking about something losing a studio hundreds of millions of dollars. That's the only way Hollywood will ever get back on track. They need to hit rock bottom, and sadly, whenever I think they do, they find a new low.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 5:34:27 AM CDT

    That film could be ANOES 2010

    by barnaby jones

    AMERICANS ! You all have that power this weekend, Let this steaming pile tank so hard we no longer have to have this dreary argument.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 6:35:58 AM CDT

    I love people who say:

    by mexicant

    "I will see it with my own eyes"

    I hope those guys don'r realy live by that motto, or else they would have really sad lives.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 6:57:28 AM CDT

    Crimson King

    by abominable snowcone

    Ruuuuun, live to flyyyyy...fly to liiiiive...do or dieee....

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  • Apr 30, 2010 6:59:10 AM CDT

    Well I guess that's it then

    by abominable snowcone

    Friday the 13th, Halloween, and now Nightmare have all been rebooted...badly and unnecessarily

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  • Apr 30, 2010 7:19:56 AM CDT

    Abominable Snowcone

    by ghostdad

    Night of the Demons, Hellraiser and Child's Play are next. Maybe we'll even get Silent Night Deadly Night and Jack Frost reboots.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 7:32:29 AM CDT

    Nirvana bashers...

    by warrensmooth

    are like those people who hate The Beatles. "Everybody loves them so I'll say they suck...just to be different. Hey, everybody! Look how hip I am!"

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  • Apr 30, 2010 7:39:19 AM CDT

    WHAT?!?! NEW NIGHTMARE EFFIN' SUCKS?!?!?

    by bringingsexyback

    I didn't see that coming. Remakes are usually so awesome.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 7:44:52 AM CDT

    NIRVANA AND HANSON ARE MY MOST BELOVED BANDS

    by bringingsexyback

  • Apr 30, 2010 7:47:16 AM CDT

    I STILL HAVE A FONDNESS FOR SMASHING PUMPKINS

    by bringingsexyback

    The 90s were effin' amazing.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 8:07:02 AM CDT

    Platinum Dunes makes disposable garbage.

    by jack burton

    Is anyone really going to defend these clowns? All their movies have sucked. Not a single one is worth revisiting. If you want to encourage this bullshit inferior remake stuff then more power to you. I'll continue to not watch in the theater, at home, or on cable.

    My problem isn't that they are remaking these movies. It's that they are doing a SHITTY job with the remakes. They are not scary, they are not interesting. They are slick, packaged, and 100% disposable. I have better things to do with my time.

    I'm sure the teens will eat this up. Good for them.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 8:25:42 AM CDT

    i don't waste my money on SHIT

    by turketron_2

    So this won't be seen in theaters for me.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 9:03:58 AM CDT

    hair bands aren't dead

    by nostairway

    Motley Crue and Bon Jovi are still putting out successful albums and having huge tours. Poison has been playing sheds across the US for years. If you look at the actual numbers more of the big 80s bands are still around then ther 90s bands that followed them. That number goes up even more if you include bands like Iron Maiden and Metallica that were also supposed to have been "killed off" by alternative music. And yes Guns and Roses was a hair metal band. A very talented hair metal band but a Motley Crue clone nonetheless. As a matter of fact Slash got his iconic top hat from Nikki Sixx himself. Nobody ever credits the Crue for their influence but they proceeded GNR by like 10 years and had that whole LA scene stemmed from them and WASP.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 9:48:04 AM CDT

    Cobain =

    by marshal_lannes

    Bob Mould's and Black Francis' love child...FACT. However, that does not diminsh his talent or impact on Pop culture.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 9:48:10 AM CDT

    C'mon, Beaks, it's got Rorschach in it

    by gimpinmypants

    October 12th, 1985. Tonight, a comedian fell asleep in New York.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 9:52:47 AM CDT

    Saw the Original Nightmare in a Theater...

    by marshal_lannes

    ...Yes, I am that old. It was a breath of fresh air compared to all the slasher films that came in the wake of the Halloween and Friday the 13th. The orginal Nancy is still one of the BEST slasher heroines ever.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 10:52:41 AM CDT

    Here Here Beaks!

    by d.vader

  • Apr 30, 2010 11:03:08 AM CDT

    In my native portuguese language...

    by asimovlives

    ... ANOES means DWARVES and GNR is the name of our version of the National Guard (GNR = Guarda Nacional Republicana = Republican National Guard) and also the name of one of our biggest rock bands.And really, whenever you guys mention ANOES, my firts though is always "why are they talking about dwarves?".

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  • Apr 30, 2010 11:09:46 AM CDT

    Kurt Kurbain hated Simon Bayer's work on...

    by asimovlives

    ... SMALLS LIKE TEN SPIRIT video, so much so that he did soemthing he never did before or since: he replaced the director and finished the video himself, and supervised the editing. So, this Simon Bayer, this is the guy who was fired from a Nirvana video. I'm sorry, but this for me tells a lot about the (lack of) quality of Bayer as a filmmaker. Also, for a long time he was a running joke because of his prima donna attitudes, which alienated him from everybody, so much so that literally nobody wanted to work with him anymore. For years he was persona non grata in the music video community and industry. He might still be a pretty looked down guy, which is why Bay got him, he got him cheap. He and Niespel, Bay got them cheap, both video directors who became infamous because they were massive prima donna assholes.In fac,t i'm suprised that Bay has not hired Hype Williams yet for one of his shit remake movies. Hype Williams is another one of those idiots who also wants to be Micheal Bay when he grows up.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 11:10:55 AM CDT

    SMALLS LIKE TEN SPIRIT ??? What the hell!!!!

    by asimovlives

    Jesus, what a goof!! SMELLS LIKE TEEN SPIRIT, dammit!

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  • Apr 30, 2010 11:16:19 AM CDT

    Will It Bomb As Badly As ASS KICKED Though?

    by laserpants

    One can only hope.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 11:21:04 AM CDT

    SMELLS LIKE LAME SPIRIT

    by laserpants

    Isn't it ironic that one of their worst songs was also their most popular? Nirvana were an okay band, but very middle of the road. Their greatest contribution to music was ENDING hair metal once and for all.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 11:25:00 AM CDT

    Why my friend Beaks is Dead Wrong about Freddy Kruegar by Harry

    by eddiemurphyslaugh

    Harry if you're going to call Beaks insane you better start that list and call ALL YOUR CONTRIBUTING WRITERS INSANE. I love it when someone on this site actually lists REASONS for why they enjoyed or hated a film and not just some babbling "when I was a kid" bullshit. And when they do, you can't counter it. You just say "dude you cray-zay". Pretty much sums it up. Great review Beaks.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 11:26:53 AM CDT

    Kurt's overrated...

    by johnnykrypton

    "the most culturally significant Billboard #1 hit in my lifetime."

    I don't know whether to laugh, cry or vomit.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 11:37:01 AM CDT

    Liked it. Better than Parts 2 & 5

    by thelonepantalone

    I saw the movie at an advanced screening in Dallas Wednesday night. As a long time fan of the series I can say that it wasn't as bad as any of these reviews are saying. Yes, some of the CGI is pretty c heesey, and it does have a lot of "JUMP" scares, but as far as Nightmare movies go it is in the top 4. I liked it. If you like Nightmare movies, I think you will like it too. If you don't like this kind of movie then you obviously will hate it. Evern though I have a few bones with it i enjoyed thsi movie and will pay to go see it again. It ranks above parts 2, 5 by far and I would love to see it go Dream Warriors.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 11:45:36 AM CDT

    I'm goin with Harry on this one.

    by welshlyarms

    Saw it at midnight last night. loved it.JEH does an amazing job and the "teenagers" play their part well too.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 11:54:55 AM CDT

    "I don't know whether to laugh, cry or vomit."

    by laserpants

    I suggest all three simultaneously.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 11:58:38 AM CDT

    Grunge sucked.. that's why it's dead

    by fanboy71

    and metal is making a comeback. Nirvana came along playing three chords and screaming off key and ruined the hair metal genre. Say what you want about hair metal, but they knew how to play instruments and sing. The vocalists had range and a lot of the metal guitarists/drummers/bass players were amazing.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 12:11:44 PM CDT

    As much as I despised Nerve-ana...

    by damned if i can login

    ...the group did change music with their first song. IMO it wasn't for the better, but history is history. Sad but undeniable.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 12:20:20 PM CDT

    But whomever said that Cobain was better than Lennon..

    by damned if i can login

    ...is on something, and it must be *really* good stuff. Lennon was a master of imagery. Case in point: Strawberry Fields and Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite.But "I wanna eat your cancer when it turns black"??? That lyric is a good indication of Cobain's state of mind, and it wasn't because of "drugs". What a lame-ass idea that is. The guy was deranged, and what he did to himself in the end pretty much proves that as well.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 12:25:23 PM CDT

    Not sure that Nerve-ana ended hair metal.

    by damned if i can login

    All the "Behind the Music" docs I've seen say Guns n Roses did that.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 12:26:38 PM CDT

    "Steven E. de Souza’s powerful STREET FIGHTER"

    by solanine

    Sorry Beaks, had to quote this.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 12:27:17 PM CDT

    Learn how to write Beaks!!!

    by bobparr

    Either the movie tasted like chocolate covered pussy juice or it did not taste like chocolate covered pussy juice. Nobody cares about script, character development, and direction. Save that for your high falutin film school buddies.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 12:30:03 PM CDT

    And one more thing:

    by damned if i can login

    Weird Al's version of Smells Like Nirvana was lightyears better than the original. That is all.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 12:54:00 PM CDT

    Refill my Zonerall

    by videotape_mummy

    This is rad.

    http://dreamchimney.com/oftheday/Freddy_Mac

    Turn it up.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 1:23:14 PM CDT

    What the kids say to try to look hip and anti-man

    by asimovlives

    Nirvana is now a bad band? Curbain is now a bad composer/lyricist? The shit people say just to try to get attention. Bloody hell! Next, somebody will say THE BEATLES were shit. Who can fucking believe this shit?

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  • Apr 30, 2010 1:41:05 PM CDT

    Nirvana, what could have been

    by gboybama

    OK, I'm 39. I first heard Nirvana on college radio before the video came out. Went back and listend to Bleach after that. Clearly, Nevermind was highly massaged by studio producers and that element of polish was the catalyst that made Nirvana such a smash.
    I think it's sad that Cobain, had he not been a human wreck, was destined to take more creative control over his work and to push the envelope to who knows where. I think the rawness of In Utero is evidence of this.
    But, we'll never know what might have been.
    In lieu of that, I'll take "The Bends" and "OK Computer" by Radiohead to my desert island and be quite happy for the rest of my days.
    Oh and the "Still" collection by Joy Division.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 1:41:31 PM CDT

    Never forgave Harry for "The Lovely Bones" review.

    by the dark nolan

    The whole "The Lovely Bones was quite simply. lovely" line was fucking lame and couldn't have been more wrong cause that movie didn't make any sense and was a disjointed, emotionless piece of shit. I'll never trust Harry again, even though I hope I agree with his review on this.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 1:47:40 PM CDT

    gboybama

    by battle_royale_with_cheese

    You guys should listen to him. He is right on all counts.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 1:47:50 PM CDT

    I fell asleep in the theater

    by wrath

    Not kidding. I think "I Know What You Did Last Summer" is more suspenseful. Worthless remake.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 1:58:08 PM CDT

    The studio posted harrys respose and link on twitter just now,

    by thedannerdaliel

    i was nice enough to reply with a link to this review, and the one Capone wrote. There is no bad PR right:)

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  • Apr 30, 2010 2:01:33 PM CDT

    AsimovLives, I wouldn't put Hype Williams in that

    by blakindigo

    category. To his credit he's not a prima-donna, he's just demanding in terms of maximizing a workday.Little X is probably who you're referencing.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 2:02:51 PM CDT

    Remakes are for suckers

    by jt kirk

    luckily for the studios, this planet is roughly 70% sucker now. I am among the other 30% who say FUCK YOU to remakes in general.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 2:16:36 PM CDT

    blakindigo

    by asimovlives

    All of Hype Williams's videos looks like he's audictioning to Michael Bay or Jerry Bruckheimer. It would be despicable if it wasn't so damn funny.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 3:50:31 PM CDT

    Why does each new horror movie set horror back

    by rplocke

    about fucking fifty years.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 3:50:36 PM CDT

    A,B & C

    by damned if i can login

    a: 49 hardly qualifies me as a kidb: Never said they were bad, just that I didn't care for them. I always considered Pearl Jam to be the better band on all counts. Good/Bad...it's all relative to the individual.c: It's difficult to compare them to the Beatles, who deserve to be canonized due to fact that nearly 50 yrs later they are still worshipped as demigods based on their unending accomplishments. Only time will tell if Nirvana will generate the same kind of interest 30 yrs from now, but I have my doubts...and it's probable that I won't be around to find out.

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  • Just got back from seeing the movie. First of all WHAT the hell movie were you watching Beaks? A Nightmare on Elm Street '10 was fucking amazing. For one THEY had no Stereotype casting. (AKA the Jock, The Slut, The Token Black Dude). Secondly Freddy in this incarnation was 300% more scary than Robert Englunds Freddy EVER was. Third - What the hell were you smoking? "Kids jumping into other kids conversations, no other explination than their dreams are killing them" Bullshit, for the first 1/2 of the movie they are exploring the possibilities that they are having REPRESSED MEMORIES. Were you too high on crack to notice that part? Secondly they tried to justify it through the whole first part of the movie.

    This was quite simply put the BEST Nightmare movie, Second only to New Nightmare. Herc was dead on in his review, Beaks has no water with me now as it seems he didn't even watch the fucking movie.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 4:20:44 PM CDT

    OH and on the subject of jumping into convos..

    by nrn

    It only happens once in the movie, at a part where the kids are talking in a normal room voice, and everyone is standing about 4-5 feet from them. Of course your going to fucking jump in on a convo about a dream guy wanting to kill you if you too are having the same dreams. Use fucking logic Beaks.

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  • Of his beloved 20 year old movie. As the movie is set in MODERN TIMES, (it even shows the kids school dates as 1996/1997.) There is no fucking way a shot by shot remake could have worked. They took the story and made it their own. I am now in the first time ever of remake history hoping for an actual sequel to this movie. Bring on the Dream Warriors!

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  • Apr 30, 2010 4:38:29 PM CDT

    Ok Beaks...

    by pop_aristocrat

    I give you respect for your opinion, but in my own:

    - The Box was a piece of crap that failed in about every story-telling possibility. This movie is heads above it.

    - Movie generally looked very good. Comparing it unfavorably to The Frighteners is a sign of a ridiculous lack of objectivism. Compared to things like Freddy's fading in/out of the drug store reality as Nancy tries, failing, to stay awake, Frighteners' Reaper may has well have been black cloth on strings; hasn't aged well at all. Admittedly, bedroom wall stretch sequence looks shyte.

    - Agreed, storytelling aspect of the movie is weak, mostly because of the first act, and its clumsy framework. Blame it on having to retell a story that's already familiar to 80% of the audience. Back 2 acts were well done.

    - Probably less of a cash grab than Freddy 4-6, and certainly superior to any of those installments in the series.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 5:18:44 PM CDT

    yeah the Box is a very mediocre film

    by ominus

  • Apr 30, 2010 8:02:24 PM CDT

    I thought about taking a nap while watching this...

    by the dum guy

    I thought, maybe my dream during this will be more entertaining (and hopefully scarier).

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  • Apr 30, 2010 10:21:58 PM CDT

    The real question is...

    by lucky13

    Did New Line pony up and get the rights for "Enter Sandman" for the end credits?

    And Pearl Jam was/is head and shoulders above Nirvana. Just sayin'.

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  • Apr 30, 2010 11:35:34 PM CDT

    NRN you are so laughable

    by d.vader

    Beaks wants a shot for shot remake of the original? That kind of thinking is completely idiotic. NO ONE wants that. Don't you remember the Psycho remake? Smarten up kid.

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  • May 01, 2010 12:57:53 AM CDT

    the worth of harry's word...

    by orange cinema

    is drastically loosing its merit. how he can still look himself in the mirror, after slamming beaks AND praising this film just baffles me. this is just some sad sad shit going on. is there an agenda behind harry's parise for this godawful piece of shit? there has to be. maybe its money & sponsers or something like that, because i don't want to believe that he's truly delusional enough to like this film and trash beaks. wtf is going on?

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  • May 01, 2010 3:28:41 AM CDT

    Was DONNIE DARKO a fluke then?

    by asimovlives

  • May 01, 2010 9:07:54 AM CDT

    Harry's reviews

    by kaitain

    Harry doesn't assess the quality of the movie; he awards marks based largely on how passionate he thought the film-makers were about the material.

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  • May 01, 2010 9:11:42 AM CDT

    AsimovLives

    by blakindigo

    See "The Square" instead. "The Box" just isn't what it could have been. I know "The Square" isn't a horror movie, but it's as close to James M. Cain as we're gonna get.

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  • May 01, 2010 2:46:51 PM CDT

    The 3rd act saved the movie for me

    by jackslater4

    I got Freddy, I got puns, and it finally strayed far enough away from the original.

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  • May 02, 2010 1:27:29 AM CDT

    Original Nightmare in HD on Netflix streaming!

    by zardoz

    Check it out kids!

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  • May 02, 2010 11:50:22 AM CDT

    blakindigo

    by asimovlives

    Thanks for the advise.

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  • May 02, 2010 11:51:36 AM CDT

    Radiohead indeed!

    by asimovlives

    Damn fine band.

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  • May 02, 2010 11:54:13 AM CDT

    Kaitain

    by asimovlives

    I don't think Harry measures a filmmaker's passion and comitement on their movie,s on account of how often he has supposred movies made by cynic hacks like Michael Bay or JJ Abrams. No, Harry loves movies because in such a day he felt the mood for it. Harry is hardly rational in his choices for the movies he loves.

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  • May 02, 2010 3:40:01 PM CDT

    Spy magazine AND King Missile references in one TB?

    by mel garga

    Greatest TB EVER! I like what I like and there's room in my tent for everything from Nirvana (Unplugged album included) to Mozart to Poison. And no, I will not be seeing this remake.

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  • May 02, 2010 3:42:14 PM CDT

    Justin Bieber = culturally significant

    by mel garga

    No, but seriously, who wants to help me kidnap him?

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  • May 02, 2010 3:43:23 PM CDT

    Anyone still listening to 'Europe?'

    by mel garga

  • May 02, 2010 7:40:18 PM CDT

    The #1 Song I remember most from my childhood...

    by rkdn

    You'll Never Find by Lou Rawls.
    That man has a voice made out of chocolate cake icing!

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  • May 02, 2010 9:57:29 PM CDT

    Beaks is my hero...

    by boober

    Enough of the "I love and appreciate cinema in all it's forms" shill-shit.

    More people need to call a spade a spade, because cinematic masterbation may be a pleasant experience for the shill, but it sure as hell doesn'translate to a good time for 99% of the rest of us. Anyone else think Avatar was a tepid experience with production porn icing? Anyone?

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  • May 03, 2010 9:00:22 AM CDT

    Who the ******

    by dennis_ofletcher

    Who the **** are you to tell people what they should and shouldn't see? What have you filmed and had distributed? People like you are amazing... Oh, thats right, those who can't do critique or teach. In case you didn't notice it was the highest grossing picture of the week.

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  • May 03, 2010 9:06:43 AM CDT

    I can trust Beaks' Opinion

    by bathman

    i mean he thought bring it on was better then the dark knight, the guy is a hack and this nightmare remake was far from a "bad" film. It's just a movie man why all the hate?

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