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Damon Lindelof: LOST Finale ‘Will Generate A Tremendous Amount Of Theorizing!!’

I am – Hercules!! It sounds like season six of “Lost” will end much as the first five seasons did – by answering old questions and leaving fans with new ones. "'The Sopranos' ending only worked on 'The Sopranos,'" LOST co-creator-showrunner Damon Lindelof tells The Hollywood Reporter. "The series finale has to fit the show. We're trying to end lost in a way that feels 'Lost'-ian and fair and will generate a tremendous amount of theorizing. We're going to be as definitive as we can be and say this is our ending, but there's no way to end the show where the fans aren't going to say, 'What did they mean by this?' Which is why we're not going to explain it." Lindelof says new, elaborate sets were built for the series’ final scenes, and that the top-secret scenes were shot not on the final day of shooting but in the middle of the production schedule to faciliate that top secrecy. Find all of the Reporter’s interview with Lindelof below: ABC airs the first of the series' final five hours next Tuesday.
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  • April 29, 2010, 4:46 p.m. CST

    People will either be super pissed

    by schadenfreudian

    or very happy.

  • April 29, 2010, 4:47 p.m. CST


    by EastcoastAvenger

    I can't wait.

  • April 29, 2010, 4:48 p.m. CST


    by phoenixmagida5th

    Lost sucks

  • April 29, 2010, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Oh great. This means the finale will be a disappointment!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Thats what Lindeolf is basically saying and thats what I call BULLSHIT!!!<P>Angel had a wonderful, kick your ass series finale! Heck Quantum Leap finale was great too!<p>Now we're stuck with these assholes who can't close a series because deep down they hope for a big-screen adaptation.

  • April 29, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    and apparently, some of us aren't waiting

    by schadenfreudian

    to be super pissed.

  • April 29, 2010, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Means we'll always be left scratching our heads.

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    I hate that

  • April 29, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST

    I'm super excited and sad

    by Rev4

    May 23rd, a great friend will pass away. Its like knowing when you're gonna die.

  • April 29, 2010, 4:56 p.m. CST

    The Sopranos finale

    by schadenfreudian

    was fucking magnificent.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:04 p.m. CST

    They've already said they're finished explaining The Numbers

    by Jollymorphic

    What the fuck is that? All the juice they gave those numbers in seasons 1 & 2 (you know, the GOOD seasons?) and what we get on the wedding night is "each number corresponds to a character" and THAT'S FUCKING IT??? The signal. Hurley (and that other Australian guy, for that matter). The inscription on the hatch. The ampules. The button. And after all of that, this is all you get, unless you were around at the time and had the free time to play The Lost Experience. Too bad, DVD buyers, you'll have to catch up on that one at LostPedia.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Will Lost reveal why Damon Lindelof = David Cross?

    by KateObviouslyDidntGoBlack

    Separated at birth.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:13 p.m. CST


    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...exactly. I watched the whole video thinking yeah, but what does Bob Odenkirk say?

  • April 29, 2010, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Haters will be haters

    by robbles

    even before they've seen a goddamned thing. Enjoy being disappointed at everything for the rest of your lives. Doesn't being so cynical ever make you feel... I dunno, unfulfilled.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:17 p.m. CST


    by 10broeck

    Sounds like a cop out to me. Maybe they could grow some balls and write a definitive ending.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Ahaahaahaa! yeah, great!

    by Jaka

    Tell people about what's going to piss them off 6 weeks from now. That's DEFINITELY the best way to stop your ratings slide! Oh, wait. No it isn't. But it will let you say, "I told you so" when the giant backlash occurs. And lets not even get started on the filming your climactic, dramatic scenes in the middle of your season with your actors not knowing whats going on. Because that's TOTALLY the best way to get a great performance out of them. Oh wait, no it's not. Oh well. They fucked this up beyond repair weeks ago. Awful, AWFUL final season with some of the flattest line delivery I've ever seen on a "dramatic" tv series. At least now I know why. Because they actor were more than likely completely clueless as to their motivation. Great. At least you kept you lame ass "secrets".

  • April 29, 2010, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Souds fine

    by rosncranz

    If they end it with a new mystery or some questions up in the air it would be fine with me. I realized in season 5 and have really come to accept this season is that I prefer the mystery.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST

    They can't write a definitive ending

    by Jaka

    Because they've created such a confusing, convoluted mess. They could have achieved everything that's happened in season 4-6 in season four, and done so in a much more satisfying manner. I will never invest so much in a tv series again. Thanks Lost! You suck.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:25 p.m. CST

    How's Annie?...

    by DanielKurland

    I'd settle for that.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Not hating on everything

    by Jollymorphic

    Why, I just loved the hell out of Fantastic Mr. Fox on Blu-ray a few nights ago. And I STILL love, after re-watching on DVD, seasons 1 & 2 of Lost (as I believe I mentioned). Even season 3, a little bit, and come to think of it, some of THIS season is turning out kind of satisfyingly, especially with Locke being the villain, which was unforeseen (be me, at least) and is bad-ass. They haven't completely lost their touch, but I wonder if a way couldn't have been found to scale the plot back to its essentials, and wrap it up when the characters and the atmosphere were still fresh.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Bunch of whiny ass bitches.........

    by Schuler_Bub

    ...seriously people, give it a chance other than just being haters and ripping on everything just to make yourself feel superior. Why is it that anonymous pussies online have to cry about everything? Can't you wait a few weeks and then have a rational discussion about it all?

  • April 29, 2010, 5:32 p.m. CST


    by robbles

    what is so confusing about it? I've watched every episode of the show in order and 6 remaining episodes seems enough to wrap up the show to me. Especially since 2 eps from now is the Jacob\Man in Black episode. And Jaka, why doesn't it make sense to shoot the final twists mid season? Do you want some cocksucker to spoil the ending like they did for the season 3 finale?

  • April 29, 2010, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Schuler_bob; are you new to AICN?

    by schadenfreudian

    "Can't you wait a few weeks and then have a rational discussion about it all?" You must not have been coming to these talkbacks for very long.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:33 p.m. CST


    by Flummage

    Actually really pleasant to hear Damon talk a little more naturally, without sentences overly full of snarkisms and pithy Vincent jokes; the sincerity of affection for the show coming through is heartening at this point, as well as the message.<p> I want Lost to leave me with a little something beyond resolutions and answers. There's a big, compelling universe they've sculpted and I, for one, would be hoping they find, or have at least have aimed for, that sweet spot between satisfying dynamics in play (characters, the floosh soodwoos) and letting that universe still be a place I want to revisit in spending time with the show in my own imagintion after that first journey from start to end.<p> I don't know if I'm a man of faith exactly, but I'm certainly (cautiously) hopeful.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Schuler_Bub - No. And wrong.

    by Jaka

    I don't think my opinion is superior - just my opinion. And I invested years of obsessive watching and theorizing in this show. If I choose to express then opinion now, after being so disappointed that I stopped watching several weeks ago, I think I have that right. The show is, was and always will be a huge disappointment for me. The fact that they are making these kind of statements after their lowest ratings week of the season loudly smacks of backpedaling and excuse making. Shouldn't THEY have waited until the series was over to go there?

  • April 29, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST


    by robbles

    I don't get it either. One of the best shows of all time is ending in 6 weeks and all anyone can do is say how theyve already fucked it all up without anyone actually seeing it. Saying someone wrote themselves into a corner without actually seeing the ending is fucking sad and pathetic. Keep fucking that chicken, fanboys.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:39 p.m. CST

    "Elaborate sets"....

    by jazz_mavericks

    What.... futuristic? Ancient? ALIEN??? heh

  • April 29, 2010, 5:40 p.m. CST

    robbles...uhh, the fanboys are the ones who keep..

    by Jaka

    ...defending this ridiculous show. So you must really be lovin' that chicken ass.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:43 p.m. CST


    by Hercules


  • April 29, 2010, 5:43 p.m. CST

    it didn't sound like

    by robbles

    excuse making to me, it sounded like him saying if you're expecting Lost to end like Six Feet Under, with everything wrapped in a pretty little bow, then you'll be disappointed because it's ending like Lost, with a giant reveal and a jaw dropping wtf that will allow us to speculate for years to come. You know, like Twin Peaks and Carnivale. If it's all wrapped up super fucking tight then what is there to talk about? If you expected it to end any other way that's your fault and not Lost's. They never said the show would spoon feed you answers, ABC's marketing department did.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:46 p.m. CST

    sorry Jaka

    by robbles

    but fanboys stopped being fanboys years ago when they actually stopped enjoying anything. An the great majority of people I know still love this show, so no defending necessary. It sounds like all negative opinion about this show is based on what people want it to be and not what it is.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Carnivale may be a bad example

    by schadenfreudian

    Since there were several more seasons for that already plotted and outlined (if not written). The way that series ended was the biggest case of TV blue balls I've ever seen.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:47 p.m. CST

    hey herc

    by robbles

    you didn't just spoil the Lost finale did you?

  • April 29, 2010, 5:49 p.m. CST


    by robbles

    but even so, it wrapped up the first two seasons and set up what future seasons would be about. I thought the Deadwood finale left me with much worse blue balls.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:53 p.m. CST

    robbles, well, for me...

    by Jaka just didn't deliver. On a WHOLE BUNCH of levels. The fact that anybody related to the show is making these statements now, as you say - before the series has ended, is NOT a good sign for me. If it turns out to have anything to do with space or aliens or any kind of future tech goodness, I'll be stoked. But I not longer have enough "faith" in the powers behind this show to believe that they're that imaginative. And I don't want everything wrapped up in a pretty little bow. I just want it to MAKE SENSE, not be EXPLAINED or ANSWERED. I want it to be exciting, interesting and worth it. Unfortunately they chased me away from finding out in real time. Largely because of what I see as acting that is completely different from the way the SAME actors were delivering their lines in seasons past. It's like they were purposely directed to be bland. I'm sure I'll check it out some day. But for now I'll just read what the finale was about, because, lately, that's just as exciting as watching it.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:53 p.m. CST

    the ending


    They said they already had an ending for the show so thats why before season 3 (i think) they said the show will end in its nothing like the abysmal finales of the sopranos or BSG

  • April 29, 2010, 5:54 p.m. CST

    So what they're saying is that nothing is going to be answered

    by RedJester

    Cool, just checking...

  • April 29, 2010, 6 p.m. CST


    by jazz_mavericks

    No frakkin' way..... ;)

  • April 29, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST

    fair enough, Jaka

    by robbles

    I hope you are pleasantly surprised. I just love the pace with with they've revealed things and told their story. I still think season 4 is a fucking crackerjack of a season. I think you should watch the Jacob\MIB episode live and thenmake your decision n whether to watch the rest, because I hve a feeling that Across The Sea is going to be the episode that all the naysayers have been waiting for.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST

    The best thing Lindelof has ever done...

    by MaxTheSilent admitting that THE DARK TOWER is impossible to adapt and abandoning it.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:03 p.m. CST

    pardon the typos

    by robbles

    stupid semen covered keyboard.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:05 p.m. CST

    It could be adapted Max

    by robbles

    on HBO, with seven seasons to tell it. And a skinnier Jeffrey Dean Morgan playing Roland and RDJ as Eddie and some Angela Bassett as Odetta.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:05 p.m. CST

    I'll watch it with anticipation/dread.

    by caprica

    It seems that there is no way they can satisfy those who have stuck with the show, but I know I'll be hopeful without getting my hopes too high. I'm not sure if I'll love the ending, but I am sure that Lost is the best episodic series that has ever been on commercial television.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:13 p.m. CST

    I Take This To Mean....

    by LastPairOfSocks

    That there are gonna be a lot of loose strings. The show will have an ending that doesn't leave us with a while bunch of new questions, but a lot of the questions (i.e. What the hell Mr. Eco had to do with anything) we already have will be left for us to ponder and eventually except as stumbling blocks along the way. I love this show and I can deal with the fact that everything will not be wrapped up in some nice pretty package. It's the journey that matters. The end result just means that Lost is over. A sad thing, but it feels right. Any longer and we may just get into some later seasons of X-Files type shat. Beating a beyond dead horse.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Honestly, this is good news

    by smackfu

    Every single show or story that built up an amazing mysterious mythology was a let down in the end. Because there's really nothing the writers can write that can approach the limitless bounds of our imagination. I know that sounds corny, but it's the truth. I'd be satisfied if Lost ended leaving me with shit to think about. This is the way Twin Peaks went out, answered a bunch of shit but ended off with new unanswered questions, and to this day it stands as one of the best finales of all time, and the show still has respect. <br>so imo Lost would do just fine to do the same. Don't answer everything, leave us wanting more, leave us mysteries we can only speculate on.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:17 p.m. CST


    by jackalcack

    Why do you think the ending of the Sopranos was 'abysmal'? I think it was one of the most clever and original endings to a show I've ever seen. Such a simple yet perfect way to kill the main character.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:18 p.m. CST


    by jackalcack


  • April 29, 2010, 6:24 p.m. CST


    by robbles

    thank you!! Been trying to word that as perfectly as you did since this thread started.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:24 p.m. CST

    I agree jackalcack

    by RedJester

    The thought the Sopranos ending was very apt. And yes, I liked the No Country for Old Men ending as well.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:25 p.m. CST

    After the finale

    by NippleEffect

    the endless series' of prequels begins<p> What is the plural of series anyway?<p> Anyway they'll keep jumping back and have period pieces, each lasting a few seasons and featuring a new cast<br> Each revealing a bit about the islans

  • April 29, 2010, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Its a great interview

    by theGoldbergV

    agree with whoever said up the page that its good to see Damon talking about the show without the clues and jokey references to Vincent etc. Pretty psyched for it now. My confidence has waned a bit this season, but the Darlton episodes, and the other 'BIG' episodes are always good. Its just the connecting ones that suffer, like What Kate Did and the the one where Ilana blew up. <P><P>Oh yeah and Frank's "I guess she got her voice back" line from last week is the worst moment of LOST ever. <p><p>Sopranos ending is great, and there's a massive in depth analysis of it online proving why Tony died. It convinced me that last scene is amazing. <p><p>I'd love LOST to end with aliens. Juliet said it right back in season 3, right around the time they announced the end-date. Final shot of the series is the Island taking off and flying away? I'd be happy with that

  • April 29, 2010, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Translation - the net will hate it

    by RPLocke

    Podcasters throw out their equipment in anger.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:28 p.m. CST

    What's an unmasked Rey Mysterio doing talking about Lost?

    by ParagonComplex

    That's strange. I wonder what 619 has to do with Lost. Those are more numbers we need answers for.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:34 p.m. CST

    I know I shouldn't judge the show like this...

    by cekma

    I love the show and will in the end probably be happy with whatever they give me. It's their story afterall and I've loved every moment of the ride. That said, I love the John Locke character. I understand how Jack has now become Locke and in the end Locke will be proven not to be a sucker because he was able to turn the man of science into the man of faith. I get it. It's great storytelling. I know I'll most likely get a happy ending for parallel universe Locke too. I can't help but be a little frustrated though if the island Locke we have known and loved is just dead. I want that Locke back the one I've followed since the pilot. I want him to be the one to find redemption.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Sopranos final was pointless...literally

    by moorE12

    I didn't leave me thinking, I didn't sit and ponder what it meant. It just ended.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Tony was killed

    by theGoldbergV

    you can choose that he didn't die if you want, but that is not the intention. Its fucking class

  • April 29, 2010, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Could be the biggest WTF?? ending of all time

    by performingmonkey

    If they're gonna go with a wtf? ending, and it seems they will, then it better be the biggest, most insane wtf? ending of all time or else what would be the point?? I still don't know whether I buy that the ending is going to be the same as what they always envisaged. Unless it was simply a big dark vs light battle with half the characters on each side, 'cause that's all we've got left to see, let's be friggin' honest. The flash-sideways' were brought in because they've got nothing else to tell apart from the end FIIIIGGGHHHHTTT!!! between characters, which we'll see in the finale. The sideways' are gonna be like an interesting aside, a 'what if?' that could very well turn into a 'what is' or 'what was' or 'what will be' for many of them.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Yeah, John Lock was the best

    by PedroM

    Such a same he got killed. Still waiting for his come back on the island timeline.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:57 p.m. CST

    I've been theorizing for 5 and half years you mother fucker

    by cossack_says_die

    When the finale comes, I want my theories to be either proven correct or wrong. <p> This is such a cop out. That piece of shit just can't come up with a real ending. <p> Fuck you Lindelof, you've been teasing us for six years you fucker. <p> Oh, and I can't wait to watch the actors fail because they shot this shit in the middle of the fucking shoot, not giving anyone motivation to understand what the character may actually be feeling. <p> Lindelof, I hope you never work on another show again.

  • April 29, 2010, 6:58 p.m. CST

    What could beat the S4 ending?

    by ReportAbuse

    That final ep was as close to perfection as LOST is ever gonna get. With a few minor edits it almost could've been the series finale --- "Oceanic 6" survivor to tell the (fake) tale of their misadventure; Locke set up to lead the Others as natural successor of Ben; Ben vanishes into who knows where, possibly sacrificing himself to "move" the island -- we'd never know where, but it would be satisfying. Eliminate that foreshadowing business with bearded Jack ranting about getting back and eliminate the whole "Jeremy Bentham" foreshadowing subplot and you'd have a nearly perfect and awesome series finale. The Jacob/Smokey mythos would have remained vague -- we might still have accepted the idea that there was only one force on the Island, Jacob, and various mysterious ghosts like Christian. S5 was a letdown for me. I never bought the whole time-tripping back to the '70s thing.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:06 p.m. CST

    ah, Jack

    by yubnubrocks

    I'm still saying it's Jack in a mental ward, suffering from multiple personality syndrome.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Here's how I think it will end SATISFYINGLY, no spoilers

    by BillboeFett

    James T. Kirk dies, that definitive. They left a communicator at his grave.. why? </BR> <P> <p> Was it a hint that there's some hope of him coming back? Or was it an iconic tribute to honor him at his grave? </BR> <P> <p> See how there can be speculation there? But his death is still absolute and definitive </BR> <P> <p> Lindelof and Cuse have already gone on record, very recently, to say that the ending will be satisfying in its closure of major plot threads and character's closure. Thats why they keep referencing the Sopranos finale. You won't be wondering "ok, so what will happen to character-X", for example. </BR> <P> <p> And many actors have already weighed in on the finale script, and what they've shot in the finale, and *ALL* have said its satisfying, and I don't think they're just towing the party line. </BR> <P> <p> So can everyone just calm the fuck down then? If you listen to both of Lindelof's videos there, you realize at least 70% of the freakouts here in this TB aren't even reflective of what he's said, IN CONTEXT. They're just over-reacting to what Hercs little, narrow soundbites said without getting the larger context and explanation. You have to factor ALL of it in.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Please don't BSG.

    by Billyeveryteen

    Please don't BSG. Please don't BSG. Please don't BSG. Please don't BSG. Please don't BSG. Please don't BSG. Please don't BSG. Please don't BSG. Please don't BSG. Please don't BSG. Please don't BSG. Please don't BSG. Please don't BSG. Please don't BSG...

  • April 29, 2010, 7:11 p.m. CST

    I have a bad feeling about this...

    by Cap'n Jack

  • April 29, 2010, 7:15 p.m. CST

    why all the LOST hate?

    by eoneon

    if you don't like it or "get it" after 5 and a half seasons,then why are you still watching? i think the questions/mysteries are more fun than the answers,esp. this season where they throw a cop out 10 second answer to age old mysteries. like the whispers,wow that was kind of a let down. i still watch though every week. season 2 was by far the best imo. season 6 seems to be great every other week. no matter what happens in the finale,there will be millions who watch it,and i'm sure it will be discussed for years to come. there will NEVER be another show quite like it with a huge cast of characters and a mix of drama and sci fi. namaste

  • April 29, 2010, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Deaths are irrelevant at this point, unfortunately ...

    by ReportAbuse

    ...due to the time-tripping alternaverse phenomena that was established midway through S5 (recall the conversation between Hurley and Miles in the Dharma barracks in the '70s). Changing something in one time period doesn't mean it is changed in all universes, it just creates a branch universe, as depicted this season in the flashsideways.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:23 p.m. CST


    by BillboeFett

    if you can give a logical, reasoned, rational response to what I posted without fallacies, ad-hominems, changing the subject, etc. I'd be really impressed.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST


    by Dharma4

    Shut the fuck up. Seriously. That statement is so ignorant, it makes you a fucking asshole. Yes, LOST may be a confusing bundle of everything, but Lindelof and the rest have created something original and simply put astounding. A television show that has raised the bar; saying that is just fucking stupid.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:25 p.m. CST

    @Billyeveryteen I hope so too.

    by Cartman86

    I've been into the show for so long, but I'm getting more and more worried that this thing is going to ultimately take the side of "faith" (in the supernatural). The show has being going for this science vs faith thing for a while, and if you asked me two years ago if the show ended with a middle ground would I be okay with it I would have said yes. However, now there is no way they can end it like that. I mean our heroes are basically pawns in some supernatural chess game. This either ends with a sort of humanist outlook or it's dead to me.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:30 p.m. CST


    by BillboeFett

    LOST doesn't owe you a humanist explanation. Go and read some Carl Sagan if you want that.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Thomas Welliver, MIB

    by Pizza The Hut

    It's too bad this guy only gets like three episodes out of the entire run. What a great character he turned out to be.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST

    lostboytexas fails

    by BillboeFett

    1) by your logic then, everything Lindelof said here for this TB is probably a lie, so your interpretation of it is also incorrect, so, if your interpretation is incorrect, then the finale will KICK ASS 2) no evidence to support this whatsoever 3) see 1 and 2 and then fail.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST

    So basically, we've been had by Lindelof & Company

    by MobileAccess

    And he's laughing all the way to the bank, and he's arrogantly rubbing it our faces by telling us that they're giving us an ending that the majority of us won't like because it won't really be a definitive end. I don't fucking care if it's ends on a negative note or a positive note, or a bittersweet combination. Just give us a fucking ending. None of this pussyfooting open-ended bullshit!!!

  • April 29, 2010, 7:39 p.m. CST

    btw, is this the same lostboytexas who said

    by BillboeFett

    that either Ab Aeterno or Happily Ever After were awesome episodes and fuck the haters? </BR> <p> <P> If that was you, then how is every episode shit? </BR> <p> <P> And why haven't you changed your handle to Dissapointedboytexas or something by now? Why are you posting here?

  • April 29, 2010, 7:41 p.m. CST


    by Cartman86

    Yeah I've already read all the Carl Sagan I could find. Does Lost 'owe' me anything? No, why would any show owe anything to anyone? However, that doesn't stop me or anyone else from disliking the ending. That doesn't stop me from finding any other sort of explanation reprehensible/stupid/boring etc.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Mobileaccess, see my post "Here's how I think it will end SATISF

    by BillboeFett

    and open your mind a bit and calm down.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:43 p.m. CST

    All the characters have been resolved

    by RPLocke

    Jack, has a son, Locke and Helen are together, Libby and Hurley, together Ben, finds peace as a teacher with Alex, Sawyer and Sayid are still open. Jin and Sun had a kid. Juliet, well, she died. Kate is open ended.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:43 p.m. CST


    by BillboeFett

    the fact that you don't like spirituality, mysticism, and the supernatural is not a slam against LOST, but an exposure of your atheistic/naturalistic bias. </BR> <P> <p> You already had your belief-system catered to with no less than 4 or 5 tv shows and at least 10 movies, called "Star Trek". </BR> <p> <P> Go watch those and self-medicate.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:49 p.m. CST


    by BillboeFett

    its a pity I don't have a talkback I can frequent every week for a show I hate, and can piss on all the people who love it, in it. </BR> <p> <P> You're like an atheist who spends his own money traveling around w/ a moving tent-revival evangelism group and you attend each and every gathering to stand up and interrupt and cuss people out and scream at the preacher and say its all fake and belittle all the people who go there, </BR> <p> <P> and you keep coming back each and every time, and then one day someone asks you "why in the hell would anyone spend their time doing this?" </BR> <p> <P> and you look at them like they're crazy.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:51 p.m. CST


    by Cartman86

    HAHAHAHAHHAA hilarious. Spirituality, mysticism, or the supernatural in and of themselves does not scare me. What scares me is making our characters just pawns in this game. There are plenty of stories that act as if the supernatural exists (Buffy, Angel, Supernatural, X-Files etc.) that I love. I also happen to LOVE Lost. I've loved it up till this point and I have no issues with what Damon said in the video, but I'm just worried about the ending. I could turn around and say the same shit about you. Your spiritual, religious bias clouds your vision blah blah blah. Either way it doesn't matter. Yes I am an atheist and I don't think anything outside the natural exists, but like I said this is about the "moral" element of the show not the supernatural. I think if we were to argue that would be the better thing to argue about.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:54 p.m. CST


    by Cartman86

    I love Lost, but come on this is not the same as an atheist going to a church to scream at people. This is a fucking message board on the internet intended for EVERYONE. I could see how weird it would be if someone who hated the show went to the Official Lost Message Board and did this, but this is nowhere close to that.

  • April 29, 2010, 7:56 p.m. CST

    I take that back.

    by Cartman86

    Actually I take that back. These are discussion boards. Discussion being the key word. A church or some place for religious get togethers are not a place for discussion by the opposite side.

  • April 29, 2010, 8 p.m. CST


    by BillboeFett

    my atheist following around an evangelist tent revival was specifically for lostboytexas, who does exactly that, metaphorically speaking, in every single lost talkback thats existed since January. </BR> <p> <P> just over there and look at the 1,000 or so arguments he's gotten into with the people there.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST

    sopranos ending


    The show was never ambiguous like lost, it was realistic and never before had an episode like the finale, so to put that in was a "fuck you" to fans, if i'm wrong my the mass outrage. If lost ended like that fans would expect it, to a degree. And as for the ending itself someone mentioned tony died....did he? all i saw were (forgive my memory) a few guys in a van and a guy coming from the toilet who could have been somebody or nobody. If you want to kill tony, kill him, or give us a "long good friday" ending but please dont say it was clever just because YOU liked it.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST


    by Cartman86

    Still don't see a problem with people giving their opinion about a show in a discussion thread. This isn't just for people who love the show.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST

    I don't think most of you people realize the contradiction here

    by BillboeFett

    do you understand Lindelof is citing Sopranos as an example of what they will NOT do? </BR> <p> <P> lots of people HATED the ambiguity of the Sopranos ending, as many, if not more so, than the ones who loved it. </BR> <p> <P> If Lindelof is citing the Sopranos ambiguity as the type of ending they are NOT doing, then why are you, by consequence, slamming Lindelof and LOST for them planning on having an AMBIGUOUS ending? </BR> <p> <P> Are you not seeing the contradiction there? </BR> <p> <P> And just so you know, back when the Sopranos ended, the very next day or so, Lindelof and Cuse responded saying "we promise not to end LOST this way, cut to black, ambiguous. Characters will have a definite finality". </BR> <p> <P> how long ago was that? They've remained consistent, and haven't changed their tune. So, seriously, fuck off.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:08 p.m. CST

    I was very happy with BSG

    by Adelai Niska

    They spent the whole 4 season talking about angels from God and in the end the twist was that they actually WERE angels. What's the cop-out in that? <p> As for LOST- I think MIB is either Aaron or Jack's son from the other timeline. And the entire moral of the show will be "John Locke was right."

  • April 29, 2010, 8:09 p.m. CST


    by BillboeFett

    someone who says they hate the show, hate what its become, hate where its going, hate everything about it, hate the followers, hates the talkback, and keeps COMING BACK, week after week after week, since January, to start fights, pick fights, cuss people out, anger people, attack people, has serious problems dude. </BR> <p> <P> and thats not you.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:11 p.m. CST



    yeah didnt lindelof and cuse say that before season 3 to let the fans know the show was going somewhere? (as per my post)

  • April 29, 2010, 8:13 p.m. CST

    But was anyone else kinda disappointed

    by Adelai Niska

    in the Jin and Sun reunion??? I mean, Des and Penny were apart for 2 seasons and had an entire episode of sweeping romance to bring them back to each other. Jin and Sun have been around from the beginning, were apart for almost 3 seasons, and they just sort of bumped into each other at the end of someone else's episode.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST



    who/what was starbuck........why did adama leave his son......why the premonition of roslin and baltar taking the kid through that door which you thought would be some big deal and in reality it was like into the next room, there are more questions but im too lazy to write them.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:18 p.m. CST


    by BillboeFett


  • April 29, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST

    what a crock!

    by Maniaq

    this season I been like Jules at the "end" of Pulp Fiction... I'm tryin Ringo! I'm tryin real hard to be the shepherd! <p> but this season so far has been a lot like S3 - except it didn't get any better at episode 11...

  • April 29, 2010, 8:27 p.m. CST

    I thought the viewers died in the Sopranos ending

    by CrushKillDestroy

    They were portrayed as lower class people -ordering crap food, getting ahead without talent, listening to Journey and not able to park the expensive car. It was our reality just went dark while they live their life.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:30 p.m. CST

    Tony DID die, I'm not making it up, its all there in the episode

    by theGoldbergV

    throughout the final scene we get POV shots from Tony, every time someone comes into the diner, the bell rings and we cut to a POV shot. Tony notices everyone there APART from the guy who goes to the bathroom. More people enter, more POV shots. Then finally, as Meadow comes in we get a POV shot <P><P>As Bobby said in the 1st episode of s6, when you get whacked thats it, you don't see it, everything just goes black. Thats what happened. Tony got killed. There's interviews with David Chase on the internet where he pretty much comes out and says it, he'd had enough with people both cheering on Tony and at the same time baying for his blood, so he did the best thing for the series and killed him off-screen. Seriously, anyone who thinks that last episode was a cop out look up the shot-by-shot breakdown of the last scene, its all spelt out. I'm not projecting my interpretation on it SQUIDDLY, I'm just telling you what happened.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:33 p.m. CST

    ok lostboy

    by BillboeFett

    that was funny :) what a hideous chick, btw. I guess the fact that she's dating the CEO of Comcast in charge of programming for E! has nothing to do with her getting her own show

  • April 29, 2010, 8:34 p.m. CST


    by BillboeFett

    is the secret to the entire show, displayed as an anagram on the side of Ben's van in s5, that he and Jack drove around in.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST


    by Cartman86

    I haven't been reading any Lost talk-backs for this season so I should probably not participate in any talk about specific users who are being assholes.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST

    theGoldbergV is right about the Sopranos

    by OutsideChance

    Tony is dead and Chase all but admits it sometimes.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST

    the goldbergv


    That actually does make sense, in my anger i watched that finale and never thought about it again (although i do like the show) and thought it was a cop out.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Stephen King

    by yubnubrocks

    You all realize this will end with a shot of Stephen King at a typewriter, right? I hope you're ready.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:43 p.m. CST


    by RefutetheHype

    proof at last that they have no idea how to end it. PROOF! PROOF I SAY! "We're going to leave it up to you to figure out what it all meant!" HHAHAHAHAHA! LOST HYPE REFUTED!

  • April 29, 2010, 8:47 p.m. CST

    The Sopranos Ending IS Open Ended.

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    And open to Interpretation. No matter how many shot by shot analyses Fanboys do online.<br /><br />If some studio waves a bunch of money under Chase and Gandolfini's noses, they could make a SOPRANOS Feature Film tomorrow. And nobody can cry Foul because nobody SAW Tony get whacked.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:47 p.m. CST i dont want to be lefttheorizin

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...Im sure it will be neat or cool, but i want a definite endin wit no hint hint to somethin that wont ever be

  • April 29, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST

    They'll answer all the questions in a piano montage

    by RPLocke

    But just as the show ends, we'll get a twist like Smokey coming on the mainland and wrecking havoc. The End.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:49 p.m. CST

    There Are Major Spoilers Over At...

    by Karuma

    ...Dark UFO. If you don't want to know, don't go.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:51 p.m. CST

    TOLD. YOU. SO.

    by gruntybear

    Called it First Fucking Season. The Losties are finding out just now that no Christmas is coming! They're just waking up, I know just what they'll do. Their mouths will hang open a minute or two, then the all the Losties down in Lostville will all cry, "Boo Hoo."

  • April 29, 2010, 8:51 p.m. CST

    answer to who Adam & Eve skeletons are has just been revealed

    by BillboeFett

    and I fucking know it, dammit, by accident. Not going to say if its cool, sucks, or is "meh". Sorry. </BR> <p> <P> Trust me, you're better off not knowing.

  • April 29, 2010, 8:59 p.m. CST

    death is coming

    by BillboeFett

    to LOST

  • April 29, 2010, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Definitive Endings = No Repeat Viewings

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I've said this before about THE FUGITIVE TV Show. It was one of the biggest hits on TV when it was running. Did terrible in syndication because EVERYONE in the country already knew they caught The One Armed Man in the series finale.<br /><br />The LOST Ending will have FINALITY. But it will also have enough WTF? to it, that fans will be motivated to go back and watch it all again. And keep THEORIZING about what it all MEANT. That's what Damon is saying.<br /><br />The only thing worse than Jumping the Shark is: Catching the One Armed Man.

  • April 29, 2010, 9:09 p.m. CST

    all bullshit

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    season six is absolutely fucking awful. They were great at creating mysteries but that is all useless unless you have a clue as to how to tie it all together. It is apparent now that they were just throwing balls in the air and not worrying about how to catch them. A shame because there were some fantastic seasons in there.

  • April 29, 2010, 9:13 p.m. CST

    More on May 20!

    by auteur17

    Can't wait to hear him explain himself more when Darlton get to the NY Times and do their live Q& event was sold out, but living in Canada, I've got my ticket to see them in Toronto at the local Cineplex.

  • April 29, 2010, 9:14 p.m. CST


    by yubnubrocks

    Yep, LOST doesn't work with syndication, as many of the networks are finding out with their "mythology" shows. Bring back the days of Magnum, P.I., when you could just watch one show and enjoy.

  • April 29, 2010, 9:18 p.m. CST

    yubnubrocks, sorry, fail

    by BillboeFett

    you obviously didn't watch the original run of Magnum, because as there were stand alone eps, there was also a long-running mythology about his stint in Vietnam, Robin Masters, etc. And those were revealed. </BR> <p> <P> a better example might be Fringe, which is actually similiar

  • April 29, 2010, 9:32 p.m. CST

    "Elaborate Sets" = crashed Battlestar Galactica

    by br1947

    The Galactica didn't enter the sun, it missed and crashed on the real Earth, cracking open the FTL drive in the process. Over the eons, the Island formed over the wrecked hull, particles drawn by the magnetism. Colonized by a primitive tribe thousands of years ago, it became the basis of the legends of Atlantis. The Atlantians rediscovered much of the technology of the past, including nano tech that greatly extended the life on the Atlantians and their decedents (The Others). But the Atlantians went to far, and reactivated a Cylon virus who took over the nano tech and kill nearly all the Atlantians, sparing only the children who grew up with no knowledge of their origins. The FTL began malfunctioning, jumping through time and space until it was discovered in the mid-20th century by a grou know as the Dharma Inititive....

  • April 29, 2010, 9:33 p.m. CST

    crossover fan fic is fun :-)

    by br1947

  • April 29, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Well according to DarkUFOs sources

    by AshokForgiven

    I havent looked at spoilers but according to DarkUFO sourcesm The Candidate, Across the Sea, The End, and The End 2 are all REALLY REALLY good. And with Desmond back, it seems LOST is gonna go out on an all time high, brutha!!!!!

  • April 29, 2010, 9:57 p.m. CST


    by Sick Fixx

    The majority of people who first tuned in to Lost came aboard because of the mysteries because they wanted to see them explained and solved!!! You people who thrive on never knowing make up a very small contingent of Lost fans. By that reasoning, James Patterson could have written Kiss the Girls and never revealed who Casanova was and it would have been even more popular. We're not being unreasonable in our expectations. More accomplished writers could have pulled this off had they not been winging it all along.

  • April 29, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    At this point the story outweighs the mystery

    by RPLocke

    I don't really care about Adam and Eve. That's pointless. I just want to know what happens to the island.

  • April 29, 2010, 10 p.m. CST

    Aw fuck it comes...

    by BurnHollywood

    "It sounds like season six of “Lost” will end much as the first five seasons did – by answering old questions and leaving fans with new ones."<p> As a disillusioned BSG fan, I just want to extend my condolences and sympathies to you LOST aficionados. Take my word for it...that statement doesn't bode well. The phrasing is even giving me flashbacks to the X-FILES era...

  • April 29, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Uh oh...sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    But, I guess that's what happens when you let your once stellar show turn silly and suddenly decide to make the Smoke Monster your new main character.

  • April 29, 2010, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Sorry Mr. Nice Gaius

    by AshokForgiven

    Imho S6 has been quite good since Ab Aeterno, and MiB rocks. <br><br> Oh my GOD... you know that black create that was built up as a pivotal element of the story? It turns out that... it's... ACTUALLY.... PLOT CRITICAL!!!

  • April 29, 2010, 10:10 p.m. CST


    by AshokForgiven

    ...I just wanted to add, with the exception of Recon and What Kate Did, this show is stronger now that it was in the past. Seriously, how you watch garbage like Fire+Water, Strangers in the Strange Land,etc. and then whine about a "once stellar show" in the midst of LA X, Ab Aeterno, Dr. Linus, Happily Ever After, etc. is just baffling.

  • April 29, 2010, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Lindelof better not fuck this up

    by Chest_Rockwell

    but his comments don't give me any confidence they won't. THey've been bullshitting us all along. They've used cheapass plot devices to string the story along, and now it's payoff time, and whoops, they put so much bullshit in the show, trying to be all edgy oooh oooh oooh, they can't explain it all away. And this goes to show, that harry and everyone here who's sucked their dicks this whole time, with the caveat Lindelof and Co wouldn't cum in their mouths, are going to get a nice big load of jizz in their piehole. Because Lindelof and company were full of shit the WHOLE time. Good job, losties, you got just what you deserved.

  • April 29, 2010, 10:28 p.m. CST

    No, I'm sorry AshokForgiven.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I'm sorry that the show has become quite silly with only the occassional moment of coolness (i.e. a token Desmond scene or a random line from your choice of Locke).<P>You know, a lot of people have been watching this show since the very beginning and have grown rather disillusioned with the direction it has taken. (I know I'm not alone in thinking that this final season has been a real letdown.) And quite a few of them have spent a tremendous amount of time theorizing, researching, and discussing just what in the world was supposed to be going on. Granted, I've lost nearly all interest in doing this as I've found it to be an increasingly wasted effort. However, I would hate to think that all those other people have been wasting their precious time.

  • April 29, 2010, 10:31 p.m. CST

    RE: " is stronger now that it was in the past."

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Bullshit. But for the sake of your argument, I'll give you "Ab Aeterno".

  • April 29, 2010, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Doesn't this happen every season

    by AshokForgiven

    "meh Fire+Water sucked Im done with this show" <br><br> "meh S3 minipod sux sorry you were all fooled" <br><br> "meh Eggtown was lame you have all been bamboozled" <br><br> And here we are. LOL.

  • April 29, 2010, 10:42 p.m. CST

    I hope LOST ends like Twin Peaks

    by AshokForgiven

    Huge cliff hanger with Cooper... ya, no spoilers. But that's how LOST needs to end. Based on Lindeloff's interview, I'm more convinced than anything the The End is going to be really fantastic.

  • April 29, 2010, 10:51 p.m. CST

    Hollywood Hellraiser - You Make Me Laugh

    by MrD

    I agree Angel and Quantum Leap had solid endings, but they also pissed off large numbers of fans because they DIDN'T end the shows with a neat little bow. I imagine that is what Lindeloff is talking about. The main points will be wrapped up, but there will still be some room for interpretation by its fans. It is a worthy goal, but we have to see if they can meet it.

  • April 29, 2010, 10:53 p.m. CST

    He sounded genuinely stung by fan criticism

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    Got the impression he'd been reading forums online, not necessarily this one.

  • April 29, 2010, 10:55 p.m. CST

    If they give us coherent well written/acted drama

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    I can live with few answers. But if it comes off as amateur hour then I'll be mad about not enough answers. Fair or unfair, that's probably how many others feel too.

  • April 29, 2010, 10:56 p.m. CST

    I have a bad feeling about this....

    by V'Shael

    I think they are going to fuck it into a cocked hat, and are already trying to sidle away from it.

  • April 29, 2010, 11:01 p.m. CST


    by MaxTheSilent

    Fuck that guy. He ditched the show after one season even though they had major plans for his character.

  • April 29, 2010, 11:02 p.m. CST


    by J-Dizzle

    I love Lost as much as the next Lostie, but this is still a dick move on their part. They need to leave all of us Lost fans who have remained faithful to the show since episode 1 with a definitive conclusion, not leave us with more questions.<br /> <br /> There is nothing wrong with definitive endings. They don't need to be horrible or disappointing. In fact, many such endings are very good. Don't run away from a definitive ending, Lindelof, embrace the idea. Really, having answers to questions can be quite satisfying if done right!<br /> <br /> However, I'll accept Lindelof's idea if they plan on doing a subsequent Lost related sequel or spin off show/movie where they do give a definitive conclusion.

  • April 29, 2010, 11:06 p.m. CST

    They're not going to explain anything because...

    by Wookie_Weed

    ... they made a lot of shit up and have no idea how to paint themselves out of the corner.

  • April 29, 2010, 11:07 p.m. CST

    Ben Linus explains the plot of Lost to Jack

    by Wookie_Weed

    Extremely funny, but also sad because it's so true:

  • April 29, 2010, 11:09 p.m. CST


    by AshokForgiven

    What exactly is the problem?

  • April 29, 2010, 11:12 p.m. CST

    The problem is, AshokForgiven...

    by Wookie_Weed

    ... that the reason no one on the show asks other characters for definitive answers (and they have guns, they should be asking firmly!) is because the writers don't have a fucking clue themselves. David Fury was right to quit Lost back in season 1 because he said the producers were screwing with the audience. Hence Lindelof's little warning, he knows the lynch mob will be coming for him after they see the finale. The show deserved fucking better, such a great cast, wasted.

  • April 29, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Team Darleton have already said no spinoffs, no movies

    by AshokForgiven

    The End is the end.

  • April 29, 2010, 11:17 p.m. CST

    Btw isnt David Fury that crappy writer from 24 and Insider??/

    by AshokForgiven

    Ohhhhh David Fury quit Lost? Fury couldn't write himself out of a paper bag. <br><br> If there is any writer I DO miss in LOST tho, I was saddened to see the loss of Drew Goddard. :(

  • April 29, 2010, 11:20 p.m. CST

    He showed vulnerability!!

    by gotilk

    Quick, everyone, start kicking him! Heh. I actually have a very GOOD feeling about this. I think we'll get the finale we expect. The fans, I mean.

  • April 29, 2010, 11:37 p.m. CST


    by MaxTheSilent

    Wow! You completely missed the point of my post, so you can eat a bag of fat dicks.

  • April 29, 2010, 11:39 p.m. CST

    Good to hear

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Has been a brilliant TV series so far and part of that brilliance has been the theorising and debate. Was hoping it would end with some unanswered questions. <p> Love this show, going to really miss it

  • April 29, 2010, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Hating on this site, is hillarious

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    I really hope a lot of the haters are under the age of 15. There is a big difference between hating and critical comments. I think some of the critical comments about showing answers rather than telling is very reasonable. But some people come across like a 5 year old throwing a tantrum, because their mom won't give them the lolly. <p> The only thing in their defence is the ABC promotions department and their "the time for questions is over"

  • April 30, 2010, 12:41 a.m. CST

    It's all taking place inside of a giant beachball


    Which is balanced on the nose of a giant dolphin.

  • April 30, 2010, 12:46 a.m. CST

    Translation: Ending will suck like 90% of this season...

    by HappyHamster

    I can take not answering all our questions. <p> The boring, storylines are maddening though. As one poster said a while back, all the do on Lost is walk. Is that a simplistic way of verbalizing how most of these shows have gone? Yes. But is it still a bit too close to the truth? *sigh* Yes.

  • April 30, 2010, 12:49 a.m. CST

    The last scene (no spoilers... I hope)

    by Tom_Bombadil

    The scene will show Sydney and Bristow and Michael Vaughn in bed. Sydney will wake up and tell Vaughn she just had the most interesting dream. Then roll over and go back to sleep. *** Fade To Black *** The End...

  • April 30, 2010, 12:53 a.m. CST

    @jazz_mavericks & Hercules

    by Nazcar


  • April 30, 2010, 12:55 a.m. CST

    BurnHollywood: I'm also disillusioned BSG fans...

    by HappyHamster

    What many of the, for lack of a better word, "Lost apologists" don't realize is that some of us have seen this EXACT pattern before. Saw it with BSG, X-files...and to a lesser extent, you could argue we saw it with Sopranos. <p> The show is just dead and the writers have no idea how to end it. So they're keeping it on life support and will have an "ambiguous" ending in the hopes of having a feature film.

  • April 30, 2010, 1:17 a.m. CST

    How did BSG end?

    by Tom_Bombadil

    I never watched the show so it won't spoil it if you tell me how it ended...

  • April 30, 2010, 1:24 a.m. CST

    Making a TV show is EASY

    by DiscreetFighterAlpha

    All I need is a good hook to keep people watching at first, to make them invested in returning week after week. I can open up a pandoras box of unanswered questions and theories that people can mull over to keep people guessing the show's direction. But I won't have to answer ANY of it, because the loyal will cling to it like barnacles on a whale's ball sack, and they'll do my writing for me. No need to answer my own shit, or take it anywhere satisfying, because it's going to be just good enough for the people that have amassed countless hours of viewing the product that bought me several cars. And I'll pass it off as art, that's it. 121 episodes of something I wouldn't have even bothered to string together because I threw in a bunch of crap that the godawful of nerdiest nerds would love, fantasy, sci-fi, and all that other shit that has 'em slathering their lives away in every fucking hobby they do. I'll take said money made from show, and do enough coke to make Don Simpson rise from the dead to give me a powdery high five. And no matter what the outcome, I'll be paid, and maybe seen as a genius by a few. Mainly, because after I'm done with it's run, I'll never have to answer any questions about it ever again, and be smug as shit when confronted about it. Goddammit. This is the epiphany of epiphanies! Had I known people were this fucking easy, I would've did the shit ages ago.

  • April 30, 2010, 1:26 a.m. CST

    phoenixmagida5th = wrong about everything!

    by grendel824

    I get it, it's a joke, right - because he says Lost sucks when it clearly doesn't, just like he says "first" when he's clearly not the first poster. Or is it just opposite day and he's five years old so he can't say "Lost is good"? That's less sad.

  • April 30, 2010, 2:21 a.m. CST

    this means we get no resolve.......great.........

    by theDannerDaliel

    its going to leave a hell of a lot unanswered because even the people who make the show have no clue how to resolve half of whats been going on. What a lame duck this will be. But more important than that... I SAW MJØLNIR ON WEDNESDAY!!!!!!WHHHOOOOHHOOOOOO

  • April 30, 2010, 2:40 a.m. CST

    So the last 5 eps will be great, huh?

    by Fieldingm

    Fantastic! I can't wait! Unfortunately that won't make up for the fact that the last 13 have been decidedly underwhelming when they should have been mind-blowing.

  • April 30, 2010, 2:43 a.m. CST

    Flash Sideways was a horrible idea

    by RPLocke

    Why couldn't they just have done more flash backs or forwards with similar ideas?

  • April 30, 2010, 2:52 a.m. CST

    Wait Herc, what? (Spoilers)

    by SithMenace

    Aliens? Are you shitting us. or do you really know? I would be so unbelievably happy if this went the hard sci-fi route instead of religious.

  • April 30, 2010, 2:55 a.m. CST

    The plot of Lost Season 6

    by Wookie_Weed

    "Something big's gonna happen! Let's move on and make camp!" They move on, make camp, and everyone sits around staring into space. "Something big's gonna happen! Let's move on and make camp!" They move on, make camp, and everyone sits around staring into space. Repeat.

  • April 30, 2010, 2:57 a.m. CST

    PS AshokForgiven, rewatch Walkabout season 1 episode

    by Wookie_Weed

    And then tell me Fury sucks.

  • April 30, 2010, 2:59 a.m. CST

    You "toe the party line" not "tow it"

    by grendel824

    Like you walk right up to the line but you don't step a toe over it. Please try to remember this.

  • April 30, 2010, 3 a.m. CST


    by BillboeFett

    he has been saying "its all aliens" ever since they found the hatch in season 1. I think he gets confused and think's he's watching the Tommyknockers instead of LOST. </BR> <p> <P> the joke is wearing thin. He doesn't have any insider info and is disconnected from TPTB over at ABC.

  • April 30, 2010, 3:05 a.m. CST


    by RPLocke

    Lol. "There's a war coming." move and make a camp. "There's a war coming." move the camp again. "Guess what. Yep, there's a WAR coming." move the camp. "Hey someone is coming to this island, we better move camp." Shit, what's that? A fucking lighthouse!!

  • April 30, 2010, 3:06 a.m. CST

    by cheeburgercheeburger

    "May 23rd, a great friend will pass away. Its like knowing when you're gonna die." well said! "I want Lost to leave me with a little something beyond resolutions and answers. There's a big, compelling universe they've sculpted and I, for one, would be hoping they find, or have at least have aimed for, that sweet spot between satisfying dynamics in play (characters, the floosh soodwoos) and letting that universe still be a place I want to revisit in spending time with the show in my own imagintion after that first journey from start to end. I don't know if I'm a man of faith exactly, but I'm certainly (cautiously) hopeful." ditto, and again...well said!

  • April 30, 2010, 3:07 a.m. CST


    by SithMenace

    I didn't realize that, as I usually skip over his posts.

  • April 30, 2010, 3:15 a.m. CST

    All the answers...

    by cheeburgercheeburger

    Why are so many people obsessed with getting every little question answered? I mean, i would like an overall solid ending, but I can dig them keeping shit open ended to an extent. That would stay true to what the show has always been. Most of the people hating are impatient and lack an imagination, which is why they want the cliff notes. sure, the show has dropped the ball a bunch, shit nothing in this world is perfect. but people, seriously, stop crying because LOST may not end the way YOU think is best or in a way you may not understand on the first viewing or ever. maybe it will end with the whaaambulance coming to take all the haters away.

  • April 30, 2010, 3:16 a.m. CST

    The Sopranos Ending

    by Chrispmcfc

    was the greatest ending ever. The only people crying sell-out over it are the ones who like their TV explained on a plate to them as they are too thick to go back and work out what has actually happened. Probably eat too many microwave meals too. I like how Lost is being dealt with this season, people seem to want the writers to spunk all their answers away in the first episode. I mean, what do you expect? Richard, Jack and Flocke sat in a room for 2 hours spouting exposition and systematically explaining every single mystery one by one? Fuck that, thats not why I'm watching. Lost is a big cock tease and sometimes a cock tease is good because you look toward the payoff.

  • April 30, 2010, 4:06 a.m. CST

    The writing

    by cheeburgercheeburger

    A lot of people seem to forget or overlook the fact that much of the writing and the questions/story lines that were being crafted early on and even mid way in the series were done to be able to carry the show season to season. They didn't know how long the network would make them keep the show going for, which is why they fought for an end date. I for one wouldn't want to see countless seasons being dragged out and watch the show slowly become boring and irrelevant. So, that being said, I'm sure once they solidified an end date they had to go back and assess what was/is important to the bigger picture of the story and build on those elements. Again, not everyone is going to be happy with what they deemed important. The writers strike didn't help them either, so a lot of factors need to be considered. Again, like I said earlier, the show has its flaws but over all I am satisfied and I know many other people are as well. And yes, the Sopranos ending was fantastic. Initially I felt the same way many other people did, but after thinking about it, reading about it, discussing it and re-watching it, I have a much deeper appreciation for it. I wouldn't call LOST a "cock tease" like Chrispmcfc did, but I would call it foreplay. I just hope the ending of LOST will be the orgasm I hope it will be and like any quality orgasm...leave me satisfied, but wanting more!

  • April 30, 2010, 4:23 a.m. CST

    As long as they answer the following

    by theGoldbergV

  • April 30, 2010, 4:28 a.m. CST

    ah crap, will try that again

    by theGoldbergV

    as long as they answer/address the following: <P><P> Aaron, what is the deal with him? <p><P>The Cabin - it MUST have been MIB in there during Ben's time with the Others, otherwise why would he have told him to build a runway? <P><P>The donkey wheel- what is it connnected to, what does it do, just a bit more info please <P><P>Jacob and MIB <p><p>Walt - again just a few morsels <P><P>Some idea of *what* the Island is <P><P>Give us a proper WTF ending. <P><P>Do all that and I'm happy

  • April 30, 2010, 4:33 a.m. CST


    by NudeandAroused

    "BSG," "Seinfeld," "Sopranos" "Deadwood" all of which were landmark and brilliant shows. They all have something in common. Not everyone loved their finales. I think the same thing will happen with "Lost." Landmark shows always have finales that leave a lot of viewers wanting more. look for the same here.

  • April 30, 2010, 4:54 a.m. CST

    Biggest rip-off in TV history....

    by DC Films

    ....If they don't explain everything -- if they don't have answers.<p><p> Despite Star Trek's success, an ending here without adequate answers will generate long term bad-will for him, Lindelof and ABC.<p><p>Have the good, men -- shut up, or nut up....

  • April 30, 2010, 4:54 a.m. CST


    by Chrispmcfc

    Yeah I wish I'd said foreplay rather than cocktease, cocktease would imply there is no payoff which hopefully there is. People moaned for Richards backstory, they got a full episode of it and still moaned. Maybe they just want the future of TV to be just perpetual reruns of MASH and early X Files episodes

  • April 30, 2010, 5:12 a.m. CST

    DC Films / Biggest rip-off in TV history....

    by cheeburgercheeburger

    What's everything? What happened to Ben's childhood friend Annie? How did Mikhail really lose his eye? Gretta and Bonnie...were they getting it on down in the Looking Glass? (if they were that could be a good Skinamax or Ho-time soft-core/sci-fi parody. Damon and Carlton gave a great example of why answering all the questions can be a bad thing: Star Wars: Episode 1...Midi-chlorians. Growing up, the Force was some much more appealing, interesting, cool, and effective when it was ambiguous, mysterious and open to the interpretation of the individual. Once it was given an actual explanation, it lost its mystique, so much so it became corny. Mystery is a good thing when handled properly. I think these guys realize they have a HUGE international cult following and many of those fans are intelligent and rabidly devoted. I have faith that they will treat us with the respect to answer key things but do so in a way that stays true to the story telling style of the show and to their own artistic/creative visions. I least, this is what I hope! Like Locke, I am a man of faith, so here I sit with my fingers crossed.

  • April 30, 2010, 5:15 a.m. CST

    I predict the end will connect to the beginning...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    That is, to the very first shot/scene in the pilot -- where we see Jack waking up. Events will somehow loop back around, and thus the entire series's events will run in an infinite loop. Yet this has to happen so the alternate reality will be created and branch off, so that most of our Losties will each get their happy endings.

  • April 30, 2010, 5:19 a.m. CST

    Edit button...

    by cheeburgercheeburger

    Dam, I wish there was one on here. I need to proofread but I am so cracked out tired right now...haha.

  • April 30, 2010, 5:22 a.m. CST

    Ending = Aliens

    by dailysportspages

    The two REAL "others" are of course alien immortal shape shifting cross dimensional beings with various superhuman powers. <br> <br> We would generally call them angels, fallen or otherwise.

  • April 30, 2010, 5:33 a.m. CST

    The only reason I've stuck with this stupid fuckin' show...

    by Pdorwick to finally get some answers. Terrible news, bunch of assholes.

  • April 30, 2010, 5:40 a.m. CST

    Biggest crock ever

    by MontyPigeon

    Bunch of script writers get in over their head and then fail to deliver the ending. What was the point of watching the show? They are even copying The Prisoner by doing this. Hacks, talentless hacks.

  • April 30, 2010, 5:47 a.m. CST


    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

    What's with the tired old complaint that "all they do is walk"? Should they run more? Just stay in one place? Maybe they should fly around? Or more swimming? Boat rides? Climbing some trees perhaps? Stay indoors from now until the end? Relax in the sun for an hour? Play on the Dharma swing-set maybe? Handstands? An episode devoted to tumbling? More ping-pong? I'm sure if any one of us were stuck on an island of that size, we sure as shit would be doing a whole lot of fucking walking. But I'm guessing by some of your attitudes, that most of you fatass man-children would likely just sit and pout on the beach. If that were the case, I'd just wait for you to die, then turn your sorry asses into bacon, ALIVE style. Mmmmmmmmm...

  • April 30, 2010, 5:56 a.m. CST

    Somewhat relevant

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

    "How could we possibly appreciate the Mona Lisa if Leonardo had written at the bottom of the canvas: 'The lady is smiling because she is hiding a secret from her lover.' This would shackle the viewer to reality, and I don't want this to happen to 2001." - Kubrick<p> Stanley didn't want that with 2001, and I sure as shit don't want that to happen to LOST. What kind of imbecile would?

  • April 30, 2010, 6:30 a.m. CST

    Remember the original prisoner

    by teh ran

    all the heat that was created in the UK when the series' final show was aired, even Patrick McGoohan had to flee the country, these days it's hailed as a cult classic, be patient

  • April 30, 2010, 6:47 a.m. CST


    by LaserPants

    It was the best tv show ever made until The Wire and Mad Men rolled around. Now it's in tie for first. Twin Peaks is right behind them.

  • April 30, 2010, 6:48 a.m. CST


    by LaserPants

    Was a deeply subversive, surreal, brilliant show. LOST is a soap opera outtake with delusions of profundity. It's called a Shaggy Dog Trick. Look it up.

  • April 30, 2010, 6:50 a.m. CST

    @Tom_Bombadil - Here's how BSG ended...

    by V'Shael

    "Badly". No, I kid. Here's how.<br /><br />The survivors of the fleet find Earth. It's the Earth of 150,000 years ago. They land, and abandon all technology, and live out their lives there. Starbuck vanishes without a trace. The Chief goes off on his own. Adama and Roslin go far away and she dies. Lee stays with the bulk of the colonists. Baltar will be a farmer, and 6 will be his wife. <br /><br />The ships and the rest of the fleet fly into the sun, to be destroyed.<br /><br />Out in space, some Cylons still survive. <br /><br />There's a cut-card to the modern day Earth. 150,000 years later.<br /><br />Head-6 and Head-Baltar are now in Times Square, while Ron Moore cameos at a news stand. They are reading about mitochondrial-Eve, the human ancestor. The implication is that we are all Hera's descendents, and this all the humans on earth are half-cylon, half-human. They briefly talk about "God" and how "It doesn't like it when we call it that" or something. And then we get a montage of modern day human looking robots, the implication being that we're going to repeat the same mistakes as the Capricans.<br /><br />That's it. Not only is the science utter bullshit, but many people found the overall themes (pro-Luddite, pro-God, abandon all technology even though the Cylons are still out there, etc...) to be a complete betrayal of everything that had gone before. Mysteries were never resolved (Starbuck, the tunes, the constellations, the lords of kobol, the nature of the final 5 Kobol Cylons and how they figured in to the creation of the Caprican cylons) and it was ultimately not very satisfying for many viewers.

  • April 30, 2010, 6:56 a.m. CST

    SOooooooo Does This Mean....

    by Arcangel2020

    Hmmmmm... I don't like the sound of that! AN ending that will leave Lost Fans theorizing? Soooooo does that mean we are being set up for yet another suck-ass ending to a series that we the fans who stuck with it for 6 or 7 years? I like to call it the "Cheers-Seinfeld-X-Files-Sopranos Fuck YOU very much loyal fans we are going to end the series you loved so much with a shitty-stupid lame ass ending" Syndrome. Maybe I am reading to much into what's being said here...I hope note..maybe I should just think for the worst and hope to be pleasently surprised if the ending is in fact good. Besides...we all know Hurley is going to be the chosen Candidate to take Jacobs place on the Island....LOL!! I am just guessing!! :)

  • April 30, 2010, 7:20 a.m. CST

    I found the BSG finale satisying

    by theGoldbergV

    pro-God was there from the start, pro-luddite was new, although you can't argue with their logic, the plan DID work, as for Starbuck... well she was an angel. Sounds a bit naff when you say it out loud but there it is. And she did 'lead them all to their end' so that kind of fits. <P><P>Really I don't see how it could have ended differently. I called them landing on earth in our distant past way before the finale, its just more interesting that way, and it would have been lame and a logistical nightmare if they landed in modern times. The only thing I'd have chaged really is the final 5 were kind of sidelined in the last few episodes. <P><P>I do concede though that the temple on Kobol makes no sense with what we saw in the finale. Meh. Its still a good finale.

  • April 30, 2010, 7:39 a.m. CST

    Lets be honest

    by Kenny_Fucking_Powers

    It wouldn't be LOST if they tied up every loose end and did not introduce us with a new mystery to theorize on for the next 20 years.

  • April 30, 2010, 7:57 a.m. CST

    The Interview - not that much of a biggee:

    by Dr. Ironfist

    If you read the quote, it seems disconcerting. However, if you actually watch both interview vids, it's not that big of a deal or of a concern. <P> He never said that they weren't going to answer anything, or any deal like that. Watch the vids, sit back, and stop worrying. <P>Besides, the finale has already been shot at this point, so...whatever happened, happened. Strap in, hold on, and let's take this ride. It only ends once.

  • April 30, 2010, 8:13 a.m. CST

    the Cock is here

    by Cockofgod

  • April 30, 2010, 8:14 a.m. CST

    the Lost girls

    by Cockofgod

    all love a big hard Cock

  • April 30, 2010, 8:17 a.m. CST

    SO.... THEY FUCKED US... RIGHT????

    by Russman

    All those hours over all those years and they pull an X-Files (or IMHO a BSG) on us and go laughing in to the sunset ..... great thanks guys.

  • April 30, 2010, 8:24 a.m. CST

    These guys aaren't going to fuck us with their Cocks

    by Cockofgod

    like the BSG guys, they had little cocks, but fucked us hard, and not in a good way, dirty cocksuckers

  • April 30, 2010, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Better BSG ending? Sure...

    by Billyeveryteen

    Bucky hits the FTL, the Galactica reaches Earth, followed by a shitload of pissed off Cylons.<p>12 battlestars in orbit deliver the Cylons their much deserved comeuppance. Easy.<p>let me know if you want me to fix Lost, too.

  • April 30, 2010, 8:37 a.m. CST

    go Billy show us your cock and give us your Lost ending

    by Cockofgod

  • April 30, 2010, 8:38 a.m. CST

    my Lost ending involves

    by Cockofgod

    Tania Raymonde and a lot of cock

  • April 30, 2010, 8:40 a.m. CST

    climax without resolution isn't "Lostian", it's skilless

    by harmless

    Lost = the monk joke. Shame on you.

  • April 30, 2010, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Finale spoiler: It turns out that the entire show...

    by Rhinosaur

    ...happened in the mind of an autistic child. Either that or Jack wakes up in bed next to Suzanne Pleshette.

  • April 30, 2010, 9:05 a.m. CST

    V'Shael - So right about BSG

    by Russman

    I think there was more of an emotional release in the finale of LEXX than there was with BSG. What really pissed me off is that with all the "This has happened before and will happen again" stuff, you'd think Adama and Roslin would've asked the Cylons to pop in after 150,000 years or so and break the cycle by giving the new generation a nice history lesson and then offering to guide them into their "adulthood" with creating artificial life and how to treat them. Such a waste, esp. when you have a great template for a series and a series finale with Babylon 5 - if you weren't moved by that, then you have some serious emotional issues.

  • April 30, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Time to bail out?

    by Kenny_Fucking_Powers

    Spoilers are out there, might be time to lock myself in a room for a month so this shit doesn't get spoiled!! Either that or drink myself into a coma for a month.

  • April 30, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST

    He didn't say they won't answer and resolve things

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    What I got from it is that they will answer and resolve a lot of important stuff but at the same time add a little more mystery. And that's how every finale of every season has been so far and fits the show to go out that way.<p> I don't want or expect any sequel tv shows or movies, but one good aspect of it going out that way is it will open it up to their being possible Lost novels, like how there were Star Wars books in the 80s and 90s that kept that world alive. Not on that scale tho.

  • April 30, 2010, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Why not just say the truth?

    by Rob0729

    What Damon meant to say is "We have no idea to end it so we are going to leave it open ended so the audience can theorize the ending for us. Besides, whenever you cheat the audience of an ending, the television elitists in the viewing public with convince the rest of the world that it was a brilliant ending and if you didn't get it, you are just too stupid. No one wants to admit they didn't get the ending in that scenario and basically admit they are stupid so they play along and agree that it it brilliant."

  • April 30, 2010, 9:29 a.m. CST

    The fact that we still don't know what's going on

    by Asimov_Lives

    and there's only 4 episodes left means either the writers are really good and tying everything together while hiding the big reveal or the ending is going to come out of left field like a bad M. Night Shamalyan movie.

  • April 30, 2010, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Sun, Jin, Widmore, & Sayid all die on Tuesday

    by Psk497

    And Adam and Eve are the Man in Black and the Man in Black's mother. Oops.

  • April 30, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    season 6 jumped the shark. they have no idea what is going on.


    really... has nothing cool happened this season? so boring.

  • April 30, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Theorizing means Ambiguity

    by Asimov_Lives

    which is a good thing in a two hour art house film but a bad thing when it comes to wrapping up 6 years of our lives.

  • April 30, 2010, 9:37 a.m. CST


    by stevepants

    I understand them wanting the ending to be "LOST-ian"...but the whole reason I like theorizing and all the mystery surrounding the show was for the promise of answers...not more questions when it all ends. I don't want to be left wondering..I've invested the time in this show to get the answers and see where the writers were taking everything...don't leave me hanging..don't be a total dicktease.

  • April 30, 2010, 9:41 a.m. CST

    At least BSG finale had definitive answers

    by Asimov_Lives

    They totally sucked, but they did manage to tie everything up.

  • April 30, 2010, 9:44 a.m. CST


    by optimus122

    And when 2 or 3 years from now Chase and James Gandolfini are still relatively invisible watch how that fade to black no longer means he died. There will almost definitely be a Sopranos movie. Too much money to be made.

  • April 30, 2010, 9:47 a.m. CST

    You think they couldn't make a movie if they wanted

    by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World

    right now? What is all this obsession with movies later on? It's a tv show, when have movies based on tv shows ever done well?

  • April 30, 2010, 9:49 a.m. CST



  • April 30, 2010, 10:05 a.m. CST

    THE greatest show in the history of television

    by Sithdan

    We're seeing history unfold this month, people! LOST is a million times better than shows like Twin Peaks and Carnivale, and the proof is in the pudding. Those other shows were axed due to low ratings while LOST has brought fans back for six years now. Those who hate it just don't understand it!

  • April 30, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST

    "when have movies based on tv shows ever done well?"

    by bah

    Star Trek; Charlie's Angels; Borat; Addams Family; The Fugitive; Jackass; Maverick; Mission: Impossible; Naked Gun; Simpsons; South Park. Success is the exception, yes, but you did ask when.

  • April 30, 2010, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Guy Who Got A Headache

    by optimus122

    You're right, most tv show based movies have tanked. But this isn't just a tv show, its a cable mobster show we are talking about. One of the best ever to be on cable. How did Sex and the City do in the movies? Pretty damn good heh. A Sopranos movie with flashbacks (so all the old characters could be involved) and also a continuation of the end of that last episode would be a huge hit. Believe it..

  • April 30, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Greatest Show in the history of Television?

    by Rob0729

    Hyperbolize much? I love Lost, but the greatest show in the history of television? BTW, if we are going to say that Twin Peaks and Carnivale were not better because their ratings sucked, then American Idol and Dancing with the Stars are far better than Lost because their ratings are far superior to Lost's. In fact, so are Two and a Half Men, Big Bang Theory, Glee, and House. All those shows have better ratings than Lost.

  • April 30, 2010, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Name ONE better. That's right, you CAN'T

    by Sithdan

    Lost is not just a television drama, it's an experience.

  • April 30, 2010, 10:29 a.m. CST

    I've read this story like 7 times

    by jimbojones123

    And cannot figure out the point. Yeah, we know LOST is mysterous. We get that and have gotten that for 6 years now.

  • April 30, 2010, 10:44 a.m. CST

    ...Heres hopin the finale will leave us theorizin about

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...Cloverfield instead of somethin actually lost... that would be neat and wont really piss me off... but if a eyeball opens up on the last scene, ill be mad... unless its walt

  • April 30, 2010, 10:44 a.m. CST

    It ends with a shot of the Hurley Bird flying into the sunset.

    by Royston Lodge

    At least, it SHOULD end that way.<p> That, or a shot of the Golden Pontiac...

  • April 30, 2010, 10:47 a.m. CST

    ...If i just read a spoiler

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...Im killin the jackass who posted it... seriously, "they" die and "theyre" adam and eve?

  • April 30, 2010, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Or the Hurley Bird DRIVING the Golden Pontiac!!!

    by Royston Lodge

    I'm a frikkin' genius.

  • April 30, 2010, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Re: "Lost" Ending

    by ArmageddonProductions

    No matter what happens in the last five hours of "Lost", there is no way on Earth you can compare it to the utter trainwreck of BSG's final two seasons. In order to compare to BSG, Ben Linus would have to rip off his face and reveal that he was, in fact, Gilligan the whole time, then proclaim to the cast that the whole show was the product of one too many of Mary Ann's coconut cream pies before bed. And then, headhunters and Meadowlark Lemon show up. Fade out.

  • April 30, 2010, 10:49 a.m. CST


    by Son of a Butch

    Congratulations, you are the consummate asshole. I hope you'll enjoy piranhas eating your dick off in hell.

  • April 30, 2010, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Or the Hurley Bird shitting gold ON the Pontiac!!!

    by Royston Lodge

    Sawyer said the Hurley Bird craps gold, after all.<p> I can't wait to receive my royalty cheques from Bad Robot for my stellar ideas...

  • April 30, 2010, 10:52 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Easy: THE WIRE and DEADWOOD.

  • April 30, 2010, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Lost Is An Elaborate, Epic Poem


    I've said it before, I'll say it again. There are rhythms and rhymes. Character and plot are tools for creating the poetic rhythms. And it's a beautiful creation. If you try to read Paradise Lost like it should be a Stephen King novel, then you'll keep saying, "Why the heck does everything rhyme? When does the plot advance? Why is this character making a speech now?"<br /><br />If you look at Lost like an objet d'art, it's beautiful. It's hypnotic. If you look at it like it should be a sit com, then, yes, you'll say it sucks, because it's not nearly as funny as Silver Spoons. <br /><br />But it's not Silver Spoons, or Winds of War, or the Sopranos. If you listen to a tone poem expecting the Beatles, you are going to be disappointed. <br /><br />Lost is frickin' gorgeous.<br /><br />And while my theory is that it will be implied that the Island is the literal Garden of Eden--the cradle of life, with MIB as serpent or Angel at the Gate and Jacob as Angel, or serpent (providing strange and cryptic temptations), the Garden of Eden part being established in Season 1 (Adam and Eve), and continued on with Dharma (Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil) and Richard Alpert (having eaten from the Tree of Life) . . . while my theory is a literal Garden of Eden reveal, I'll be perfectly pleased with it turning out the Island is a billion year old space ship or the last remains of Mt. Olympus or take your pick. As long as it rhymes. <br /><br />And while I prefer to watch my Lost one after the other--like, 6 episodes a day until done--even watching it ever week can be peculiarly satisfying. For example, I didn't like the Flash sideways at first. Just a visceral reaction. Not trying to overanalyze, just didn't like them. Then people began to remember, and Desmond starting playing a Jacobian role in the flash sideways, and it began to "rhyme" and I began to get a sense of the music of it, and I began to enjoy it all the more for having not liked the flash sideways at first.<br /><br />Lost is a beautiful objet d'art. It's not a can opener. Try to open cans with it then, yes, you'll be disappointed. Sopranos is on DVD. So is The Wire. They open cans. Go there if you have some cold ravioli you want to eat.

  • April 30, 2010, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Spoilers Just Don't Bother Me


    Maybe that's what happened, maybe not. Just saying it doesn't really convey the effect of the actual show, so I'll keep watching. The Adam and Eve thing requires some 'splaining. Didn't Jack originally estimate they had been there for 30 or 40 years?<br /><br />Anyhow, it'll be cool to watch.

  • April 30, 2010, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Seriously, if the Hurley Bird was the only thing they answered

    by Asimov_Lives

    for the rest of the series I would totally be satisfied.

  • April 30, 2010, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Yeah, Sopranos totally has an ending...

    by DanielKurland

    The posters here have done a good job at understanding it. Just because you don't see something happen, doesn't mean the writer just "gave up" and copped out. Chase knows exactly what happens; there IS an ending; it's just not spelled out for you.

  • April 30, 2010, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Ugh, really wish Carinvale was still on...

    by DanielKurland

    The amount of answers given to you in the season two premiere was astounding. Finding out that Management was actually Brother Justin's father, and that this whole Good Vs. Evil war is actually a loooooong feud between the Belyakovs and Scudders is just great writing. Would killlll to get to that Atom Bomb in The Desert Showdown.

  • April 30, 2010, 11:21 a.m. CST


    by Rob0729

    There has been plenty of shows that were better than Lost in my mind. In fact, if Alias ended after season two, I would say that it wasn't even the best JJ Abrams produced show.<br><br> As for some of my favorite shows of all time, I would go with Seinfeld, The Sopranos, All in the Family, Hill Street Blues, The Larry Sanders Show, Buffy, Twilight Zone, and The Wire just to name a few. I might rank all of those and a bunch more ahead of Lost. Lost might be in my top 50 or 100, but certainly not in my top 10.

  • April 30, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST

    V'Shael (damn you...)

    by D_T

    Thanks for reopening that old wound.

  • April 30, 2010, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Calling people "haters" = unable to defend Lost.

    by Flip63Hole

    Sorry, "haters" is a great term if you go to high school in a ghetto and people don't like your clique. In a situation like this, it just means you're retarded...

  • April 30, 2010, 11:38 a.m. CST

    ...flip63 hatin on ghetto?

    by yourSTEPDADDY

  • April 30, 2010, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Name ONE better: Breaking Fucking Bad.

    by Flip63Hole

    That's one.

  • April 30, 2010, 11:43 a.m. CST


    by Doctor Cosmic

    And here it is. And it's quite simple: *The island is an alien spacecraft. That's why it was able to sink (alternate universe) *Smoke monster/Jacob are alien shapeshifters. *The mysterious statue proved this. *The ship crashed on Earth thousands of years ago. The aliens used their tech to "terraform" the surface. SECOND POSSIBILITY: *The island is still a spacecraft, BUT...everyone is hooked up to a simulated reality a la The Matrix. If you didn't realize this roughly around the time the hatch was discovered, you're a complete moron.

  • April 30, 2010, 11:43 a.m. CST

    No show has been better than WKRP.

    by Royston Lodge

    Admit it, it's true.<p> As God is my witness, I thought turkey's could fly...

  • April 30, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST

    A Good Finale?

    by Aquatarkusman

    Space: Above and Beyond! It was completely messed up. As for Lost, I am absolutely stumped as to why this plodding, mostly-badly-acted leviathan is considered groundbreaking television. Every conflict ends with a gun, every mystery involves somebody being somebody else's daddy. Step back for a moment and survey the triteness.

  • April 30, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST

    "Name ONE better." No Problem! Hell, I'll Name Several!

    by LaserPants

    Mad Men, The Wire, Twin Peaks, the original The Prisoner, new Doctor Who, new BSG, Firefly, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Star Trek TNG, and, if we're counting talk shows, The Daily Show and Colbert Report. That's just off the top of my head.

  • April 30, 2010, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Questions that'll never be answered include:

    by StanGrossman

    1)When Locke was lying shot in the Dharma grave pit, where did "Taller Walt" come from? 2)Why did Claire not take Aaron with her when she went with "her dad"? 3)How did Hugo Reyes get the nickname Hurley?(he didn't want to say in Season 1 if you recall). Any others?

  • April 30, 2010, 12:14 p.m. CST


    by Katet19

    Taller Walt was an astral projection (because he's "special"). It WAS Walt. Their connection and his affection for Locke prompted it. When Locke returned to the real world and Walt hugged him it seemed to drive it home for me that Walt would have used whatever ability he has to aid Locke. He was attempting to save Locke. I'm also guessing "Hurley" comes from some embarrassing incident involving vomit (just cause I'd like to think so).

  • April 30, 2010, 12:18 p.m. CST

    I agree with you

    by paburrows

  • April 30, 2010, 12:19 p.m. CST

    I can't wait for the finale TB

    by donkey_lasher

    as I will laugh my ass off at the inevitable geekrage.<p> The last Lost will spark fury unseen since BSG ended, it's what AICN Talkbacks are for. UNHOLY RAGE.

  • April 30, 2010, 12:36 p.m. CST

    How to turn the geek rage off..

    by daveyf

    It's easy. Put Desmond in the episode. Desmond oozes gravitas.

  • April 30, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST

    i cnt wait to watch all these "bitchers" TV pilots this fall...

    by jay2517

    i mean, with all ur EXPERT TV writing credentials, ur TV shows must be awesome!! Hmmm? Whats that? they dont have ANY TV pilots this fall and all they do all day is bash and critique? oh, i forgot i was in a first day AINC Lost talkback brotha...

  • April 30, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST


    by Pizza The Hut

    Jack is Sawyer's daddy, Ben and Richard get married, and Locke is the devil.

  • April 30, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Damon Lindelof: We're Just making this shit up as we go.

    by GornPirate

    The title of the show says it all. They're Lost. They have no clue what they're doing. They just make up this shit as they go.

  • April 30, 2010, 12:51 p.m. CST

    To Paraphrase "The Shat"

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    GET A LIFE! "You've taken a Fun little TV show... and turned it into a colossal waste of time!"<br /><br />LOST is a TV Show. That's all it ever was. That's all it ever will be. It's not a way of life. It's not a religion or a cult. Art or Entertainment, take your pick. It's a Show.<br /><br />And when Theorists complain about wasting their time? NEWSFLASH: You were ALWAYS wasting your time. It's their Show. Not Yours. They write it. Not You. And if you figure it all out before they reveal it to you: what do you get for being so Clever? Nothing.<br /><br />I love LOST as much as everyone in here. I find these characters just as fascinating as I found Number 6 and Dale Cooper and Al Swearengen and Omar Little and dozens of other characters I've watched over the years. And I'll find other characters and other shows fascinating in the years to come.<br /><br />But they're just TV Shows. Really Great TV Shows. There's nothing wrong with just being a Really Great TV Show.<br /><br />And if a LOST Series Finale is going to ruin or cheapen or destroy completely the past six years of your life: maybe you should have done something more meaningful during those six years than becoming obsessed with a TV Show?

  • April 30, 2010, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Hope you enjoyed the foreplay, but no orgasm for you.

    by _Maltheus_

    So is it a Sopranos type ending or not? Saying it'll be left to interpretation makes it sound like a Sopranos type ending to me. What made the Sopranos ending suck so bad is that the entire season sucked, but everyone had put their faith in the fact that they were building up to an incredible finale. Regardless of how "clever" you thought the gimmicky finale scene was, it was a whole lot of nothing happening throughout the episode. Regardless of what Chase says, he's always shown contempt for the fans and I do in fact believe that he meant it as a finale fuck you to everybody.<br /> <br /> I do expect better from Lost, but only because a retarded, cracked out chimp huffing mercury fumes could come up with something better. But I've never been a big fan of these mix it up, it's a new story, game changing finales. It's inappropriate for a series finale. It sounds like he wants to wow us with a shiny coin again and that makes me a sad panda. I'm at least looking for some kind of substance, even if I've resigned myself to the fact that we won't get all our answers.

  • April 30, 2010, 1:05 p.m. CST


    by Pizza The Hut

    You just made half of us cry and say, "I'm such a loser! sob-sob-sob" ;)

  • April 30, 2010, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Allow me to translate:

    by AsimovLives

    "We haven't a fucking clue how to endm this show, so we will just thrown some ramdom shit and make it obtuse on porpose so that some people might mistake it for subtle and hermetic, and we can then save our asses from the sure beating we would from follong audiences for all this years. We learned this from our master JJ Abrams, praise be upon his name, oh messager of god and savior of the undescriminating easy to fool geekry" Damon Lindelof

  • April 30, 2010, 1:21 p.m. CST


    by Asimov_Lives


  • April 30, 2010, 1:21 p.m. CST

    "...messager of god..."

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Do you fluff the Almight?<P>That's a pretty funny typo for someone who doesn't even watch the show.

  • April 30, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST

    God's lack of Happy Endings from AsimovLives lately

    by Asimov_Lives

    is the source of all these Earth Quakes, Tornadoes and Volcanoes.

  • April 30, 2010, 1:38 p.m. CST

    This finale is going to be terrible.

    by ranma627

    Just like all the other Lost Season Finales. Oh wait they were all great. I'm sick of these talkbackers.

  • April 30, 2010, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Halfbreed, Lynch never left Twin Peaks

    by Asimov_Lives

    True he did not write and direct every episode, but that was the case from the start. He did however write and direct the amazing series' finale.

  • April 30, 2010, 2:06 p.m. CST

    The Ending WIll Be...

    by gringito

    Troi and Riker will both say "pause hologram". Sorry to spoil it for you.

  • April 30, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Im with the whole "island is a ship" theory.

    by dailysportspages

    These original "others" are aliens/angels. <br> Samuel and Jacob are beings from another world who have been marooned on an island (earth), and are trying to find a way to get back home. <br> Except Jacob is fine staying, and Samuel is not.

  • April 30, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST


    by theGoldbergV

    The thing with The Sopranos was that while it was meant to definitively show that Tony died, its done in such a cleverly constructed way that its not immediately obvious. I didn't 'get' it the first time I saw it. In that sense, it does exactly what a finale should do, in that it provides you with an extra context to rewatch the series. By knowing the ending, you notice all the legwork that was done in season 6 to get to that point. Thats why I think it is very clever. Good call on The Wire though, brilliant finale that one. Probably the best I've seen, Six Feet Under is up there too though

  • April 30, 2010, 2:12 p.m. CST

    It was all a dream inside Vincent's head

    by Asimov_Lives

    He wakes up and he's in his cage in the cargo bay of the plane. The plane lands again and everyone gets off of the plane. The end

  • April 30, 2010, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Lol matheus

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...I used to use that analogy before i became a true lost (disgruntled) fan... i said lost was like blue balls wit their answers given while heroes was actually you cummin... well years later, heroes suck and maybe i was right all along wit the blue balls... time to masturbate to supernatural (which is MY favorite hourlong now)...

  • April 30, 2010, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Goldberg

    by Asimov_Lives

    I'm glad that someone else agrees that there is no doubt that Tony got whacked in the end.

  • April 30, 2010, 2:15 p.m. CST

    ...Roseanne series finale

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...Was better than most dramatic finales like bsg... man, what a cool , bittersweet endin

  • April 30, 2010, 2:15 p.m. CST

    If the island is a spaceship and it flies off in the end

    by Asimov_Lives

    I will literally shoot my tv!

  • April 30, 2010, 2:17 p.m. CST

    The end of The Wire

    by MachThree

    Got a little ridiculous in terms of "all this has happened before, and all this will happen again". Michael becomes the next Omar? Yeah, I can buy that. Sydnor becomes the next McNulty - uh no. Nothing in his character ever suggested anything even remotely of the sort that until they showed him with Judge Phalen in the final montage. Dukie becomes the next Bubbles - eh, ok I guess. I just think they overdid the whole "cycle" aspect of it, even though it was a theme of the show. The Shield - now that was a series finale - it gave the right amount of closure (Shane and Ronnie), the right amount of ambiguity (Vic) and did it in a way that was consistent with the show and wasn't preposterous.

  • April 30, 2010, 2:21 p.m. CST

    And the Sopranos...

    by MachThree

    Was the biggest cop-out in T.V. history. As if Chase said to himself "If I kill Tony, half the audience will hate me and half will love me. Same if I don't kill him. So I'll be as ambiguous about it as possible and fuck both halves of the audience." Prick. The whole idea that Tony was killed and didn't see it coming, therefore the audience doesn't get to know? That's bullshit. The series NEVER limited the audience's perspective to just the things Tony knew about. If Tony gets shot and didn't see it coming at the end, and that's why we cut to black abruptly, that is a huge departure from everything the show had been until that point.

  • April 30, 2010, 2:22 p.m. CST

    "They love, they whine, they get blown away."

    by AshokForgiven

    Loving, whining, griping, awestruck. All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.

  • April 30, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST

    RE: The Island is a Spaceship

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Don't any of you remember the comic book that Walt was reading in Season 1? Remember the panel depicting a green alien and an island encased in some sort of dome?<P>Yep.

  • April 30, 2010, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Anyone remember the finale of "I Married Dora"?

    by StanGrossman

    It was a late 80s show with young Juliette Lewis that lasted less than a season. The finale had the father going off to live in another country. After he's supposed to be gone, he comes back in the room where all the character are and says "It got canceled". Someone asks "The flight?" and he says "No, the series", at which point the entire cast turns to the camera and waves. A great finale which like the Star Wars Christmas Special, probably only aired once. I'm glad I saw it :-)

  • April 30, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST

    I kind of wish Lost would have stuck to Forbidden Planet

    by Asimov_Lives

    I know that was on of the original inspirations for the show. If they would have expanded on the basics concepts of that movie it would have been a much more cohesive and effective series. As much as I love Lost, it does seem to be ripping apart at the seems some of the time.

  • April 30, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Lol asimov likes somethin?

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...Here i thought you just liked to hate that lens flare movie...

  • April 30, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Looks like the Whedon fanboys are trying to overcompensate

    by AshokForgiven

    BtVs and Angel are brilliant "Lost" killers? Really? Wow, I'm not saying those shows were awful, but some people really need to take off the rose colored glasses.

  • April 30, 2010, 2:55 p.m. CST

    This is how you know the Sopranos season finale sucked...

    by _Maltheus_

    ...if we did have a definitive scene at the end, would it have been any better of a finale season? No. It was just a gimmick that adds nothing to the story. And they had no story going on at that point, so anything would have been a let down. Christopher's death was the only thing that stuck with me that season and even that was anti-climatic.<br /> <br /> The Sopranos had a great first season, a pretty good second, and then went downhill from there. It was still enjoyable through S5, but S6 had no redeeming values aside from the line "I love you Johnnycakes."

  • April 30, 2010, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Re turk, er i mean lostboy

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...It was great finale for a character who writes (Roseanne) cuz she essentially fixed her real life problems by makin a fictional life for her family... as a writer, i thought it was a good way to end it

  • April 30, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST

    greatest tv of all time: twilight zone. lost. seinfeld.

    by la te ral us

    if you think the finale's gonna suck, then go read some spoilers. seriously. it. is. going. to. be. awesome....but then again ive loved the entire series, and i personally feel that seasons 5 & 6 are the strongest. imo the only ep this season that i haven't absolutely loved was "what kate did"

  • April 30, 2010, 3:03 p.m. CST

    I'll second Six Feet Under...

    by Billyeveryteen

    Claire's drive East, while flashing on everybody's future death was devastating.<p>Oh, and the Island is all in Hurley's head.

  • April 30, 2010, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Lost sux because...

    by jay2517

    they have'nt fucking killed that bitch Kate yet. if they dont do that it will only be a 9.9 out of 10 for me broheim lol...

  • April 30, 2010, 3:13 p.m. CST

    My gut feeling is that the island is...

    by Pizza The Hut

    ...a "gate". It's not hell itself, or a cork, but it's a gate to hell, if not "the gates of hell". Some souls are trapped inbetween (whispers), here at the gate, and for some reason can't go either direction to heaven or hell. Remember, Hurley said that Isabella said that if Richard didn't stop MIB, that "they're all going to hell", which may be beneath the island if the island is a gate. Oh, well... I'm probably wrong.

  • April 30, 2010, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Anyone thats tired of the complainers

    by paburrows

    I created an alternative, let them have this place and anyone who wants to discuss their enjoyment of Lost in peace. I ban anyone thats there to bash the show or those who like it.

  • April 30, 2010, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Has one show ever generated so much press?

    by RPLocke

    While it was still on? Lost fucking rules.

  • April 30, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    MIB - really Zeus

    by RPLocke

  • April 30, 2010, 3:28 p.m. CST

    cant wait to see ur oh so awesome TV pilot Ditko...

    by jay2517

    ...just cant WAIT!!! hurry and revolutionize modern TV brotha...

  • April 30, 2010, 3:29 p.m. CST


    by Pizza The Hut

    Final scene is Losties going to tribal council. Special guest star: Jeff Probst.

  • April 30, 2010, 3:30 p.m. CST


    by Fish Tank

    Can we PLEASE erase the words "you know" from the english language? NO Lindelof I don't know - that's why I'm watching your video. The words "like", "you know" and "ummm" are only for lazy idiots that can't think ahead 3 words.

  • April 30, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    MIB - Really Rupert.

    by RPLocke

  • April 30, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Rupert is...

    by Pizza The Hut

    the Smelly Monster.

  • April 30, 2010, 3:39 p.m. CST

    13 "you know"s in 4 minutes (1st vid)

    by Fish Tank

  • April 30, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST

    10 "you know"s in 3.25 minutes (2nd vid)

    by Fish Tank

  • April 30, 2010, 3:41 p.m. CST

    another thing Ditko...

    by jay2517

    i really hope u can get all ur actors to sign on for all the episodes till the end. and, i hope the network doesnt deviate ur series end date. and, if a character(s) becomes popular u cant write them into more episodes (cause that would affect ur GRAND story). and, u must introduce EVERYTHING thats going to be relevant later on into Season 1 (that way no one can complain). and, i hope no network stoppages happen during ur series run. and, all of ur questions must have answers that u cant "think" about(they have to be clear cut answers). other than that i cant wait for ur ground breaking new TV series brotha...

  • April 30, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST


    by MachThree

    You forgot, you must also put all outlines, scripts and other source material for the show into a sealed vault in Fort Knox prior to the first day of shooting, and open it on live T.V. immediately after the series finale airs so you can prove you knew what in hell you were doing the whole time...

  • April 30, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST

    It's about the journey, not the destination

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    It's a damn good show and I've enjoyed the ride so far. The entire cast could come back in the final episode and play Pictionary for two hours and I still think it would be better than anything else on television. In fact, that's what happens folks, you heard it here first.

  • April 30, 2010, 3:54 p.m. CST

    MIB is really Sandra.

    by RPLocke

  • April 30, 2010, 4:16 p.m. CST

    lol MachThree... i forgot that part...

    by jay2517


  • April 30, 2010, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Done Ditko...

    by jay2517

    checks in the mail. i just hope u dont disappoint the AINC "fan" community...

  • April 30, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    So the immortal guy gets buried alive?

    by gun_will_travel

    Didn't Abrams already do that in Alias? Maybe he'll get teleported back out and then turned to dust, like on Heroes.

  • April 30, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    It's not about the destination...

    by grimmbot

    I've decided long ago that I don't give a crap about the ending, the journey is fulfilling enough for me. Why everyone wants every question dressed up in a big elaborate bow is beyond me. Too many great stories are left to live on in your mind, and that's just fine with me.

  • April 30, 2010, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Calling people "haters" = unable to defend Lost. by Flip63Hole

    by cheeburgercheeburger

    "Sorry, "haters" is a great term if you go to high school in a ghetto and people don't like your clique. In a situation like this, it just means you're retarded..." Sorry bud, but it's also a great contemporary way to say naysayer or pessimist. Sorry if my slang doesn't agree with your regional vocab. But you are right to an extent, it is a great high school term, that is to say, it's a great word to describe the countless droves of "adults" who come on sites like this and anonymously shit on shows like LOST by simply stating "This show sucks!" Why does it suck? I rarely can find an instance where one of those aforementioned types can actually articulate why they think the show sucks. Also, if they are able to provide a handful of reasons, most of them are pretty easy to shoot down, since said reasons are paper thin. You know what's retarded?? Fighting with anonymous strangers on internet forums, so with that being said...I'm done. Sorry if I was "Hating" on you...

  • April 30, 2010, 5:50 p.m. CST

    I totally agree with you grimmbot

    by paburrows

  • April 30, 2010, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Here we go again...

    by Sick Fixx

    with "It's the journey not the destination." If you people are so fixated on your favorite stories never ending or being resolved in any way, then stop watching any series finale or reading the final chapter of any book. As Neil Gaiman once said, "Stories that matter end." A good writer can have a captivating journey as well as a fulfilling destination. It's sleight of hand trickery that one can only have one or the other. And NO, Lost is FAR from a 'tone poem' as the one douchebard above me made the comparison. Any show with someone as inarticulate as Hurley is NOT a tone poem... dewd...

  • April 30, 2010, 5:56 p.m. CST


    by cheeburgercheeburger

    they are making it up: WAAAAAA! a retard can write a better ending/show: WAAAAAAA! this or that "sucks": WAAAAAAAA! mom, you overcooked the meatloaf: WAAAAAAAA! I can't get a date for the prom: WAAAAAAAA! My boss won't give me a raise: WAAAAAAAAAA! we need better answers for LOST: WAAAAAAAAA! i am going to shit on everything on AICN and IMDB: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I'll no long use the terms haters on sites like this and just call you what you pride yourselves on being: FANBOYS! and the funny thing is, so many of you feel that you can do better, so go and do better. write that script and sell it! make that TV show or movie already! if not, you are a bunch of "arm chair quarterbacks" and "side-liners". WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

  • April 30, 2010, 6:04 p.m. CST


    by jay2517

    honestly... i dont know what the fuck she does in there...

  • April 30, 2010, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Fixx-- u have never liked Lost...

    by jay2517

    so why do u still post in these tb's? BTW-- short of them not running the series finale im pretty sure theres gonna be an ending. now, whether YOU (being such a "fan") like it remains to be seen brotha...

  • April 30, 2010, 6:16 p.m. CST

    ATTN: LOSTfans, we need to lay this blanket over the mouths of t

    by BillboeFett

    ATTN: LOSTfans, we need to lay this blanket over the mouths of the haters </BR> <P> <p>

  • April 30, 2010, 6:18 p.m. CST


    by jackalcack

    Chase found a way to kill Tony that didn't depict him having his head blown off in a graphically violent way. Chase has said on numerous occasions he did not want to show the character dying like this. There are loads and loads of clues scattered throughout the whole season that all lead to the same conclusion...Tony died in that diner. Chase even directed the final episode himself in a very specific way so that every shot if Tony's face is followed immediately by a POV shot of the door. The final POV shot is simply cuts to black. This is because he has been executed in exactly the same way Phil Leotardo was executed earlier in the same episode. A shot to the back of the head in front of his family. <p> That episode will always haunt me because I imagine the aftermath of Tony's whacking. Meadow would even be standing in the doorway, blocking the killer's exit. <p> If you're in any doubt as to the genius of what Chase did with the Sopranos finale then read this essay on the subject. It is absolutely fascinating and I'd be surprised if it didn't make you see it in a new light. I was a doubter before but now I truly believe it's the greatest, most original and powerful end to a show I've ever seen. Here's the link, as always close up the spaces... <p>

  • April 30, 2010, 6:30 p.m. CST


    by cheeburgercheeburger

    yeah, that was a good read. i found that site a few months back. and yeah, it helped me put the ending into perspective and to be able to have developed a better appreciation for it. unfortunately, a lot of people don't like to read, don't like to be observant and don't like to have to re-examine things. They want the dumbed down version of everything, the abridged version, along with the cliff notes. Granted, I was like that with a great number of things in college because I found some of the stuff I was required to read boring or irrelevant to my interests. But, in the instances of TV shows, movies, etc... You are either a fan and watch whatever it is, or you aren't a fan and you don't. That being said, shows like LOST and the Sopranos deserve to be re-watched and in some instances need to be re-watched by their fans. Forget the non-fans or the casual viewers. Shows like dancing with the stars, american idol, jersey shore and keeping up with the karsmashians are made for people like them. Let's not forget john and kate plus 8. Oh well...

  • April 30, 2010, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Glad to see I'm not alone w/ my theories.

    by GQtaste

    Damaon and the other clown are the biggest cockteases in this business and should never get to touch a property again.

  • April 30, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Texas hating on Pa...GOLD

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    Yeah, I turned off the filter only to see Alexis Texass being full of nerd rage.<br /><br />Sorry about wanting to discuss LOST without you, but jesus, give it break already. Aint like your gonna get any respect on here unless it's from your other screen names.<br /><br />Pa's the most easy going person on here. And you attack him cause he made a bash-free forum to talk about LOST?<br /><br />

  • April 30, 2010, 7:36 p.m. CST


    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

    Just to clarify, I was not comparing the two. It figures one of you kids would misunderstand something so ridiculously simple.<p>Here's the quote again, and I'll try to help you understand. I'll even take out any mention of 2001 so you don't get confused again. "How could we possibly appreciate the Mona Lisa if Leonardo had written at the bottom of the canvas: 'The lady is smiling because she is hiding a secret from her lover.' This would shackle the viewer to reality, and I don't want this to happen to..." - Kubrick<p> See, I was using Kubrick's quote to make the statement that I don't want answers that shackle me (the viewer) to reality. LOST has never been about reality, so why would I suddenly want its mysteries to be mundanely brought down by shoehorning in some "answer"? Please name me one piece of fantastic literature or sci-fi movie or anything that has ever been improved by having it all explained for you. I could list some examples of ones that did attempt to do so, and they all failed miserably. MATRIX is one of them...come on Ditko, think of some more. What, with that high-powered intellect of yours I'm sure you'll be able to enlighten the rest of us.

  • April 30, 2010, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Lindelof and Cuse are fucking hacks

    by TheApostle

    Cuses' previous job was working on Nash Bridges.

  • April 30, 2010, 7:46 p.m. CST


    by cheeburgercheeburger

    yet both of them are getting paid and are co-creators of one of the most critically acclaimed shows in recent years...oh well.

  • April 30, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST

    It's quite simple...

    by vettebro

    They all died in the plane crash. They exist in purgatory and are being tested by Smokey and Jacob to see where they end up. Heaven or Hell. As good as any ending I guess.

  • April 30, 2010, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Hacks who created one of the best shows ever?

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    So, they hacked up LOST with Nash Bridges shit? Explain on how they worked that, or do just like sounding stupid without explaining your dumb ass comment?<br /><br />EVERY WRITER takes from another. Whether it be his influences, colleges, friends or personal interests. <br /><br />So what did they take from to hack on LOST?<br /><br />Gilligan's Island? What?

  • April 30, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST


    by ToughGuyRizzo

    How long have you been wathing this show?<br /><br />Way back D&C said it IS NOT PURGATORY. They have been asked this a 1000 times.<br /><br />The answer remains the same. <br /><br />IT'S NOT FUCKIN PURGATORY.

  • April 30, 2010, 8:08 p.m. CST

    LOOK! its the Knights of the Troll Table!!!

    by jay2517

    ALL HAIL THE MAJESTIC... Sir cowardBOYtexass- Sir Ditko- Sir The Apostle- Sir GQ Taste!!! we all await ur wonderful and insightful musings m'lords...

  • April 30, 2010, 8:10 p.m. CST

    and the ever so humble...Sir Sick Fixx!!!

    by jay2517

    ALL HAIL!!

  • April 30, 2010, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Didn't hear about that ToughGuy...

    by vettebro

    Seemed like a logical conclusion. I guess that's out the window. Now I'm confused.

  • April 30, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST


    by MachThree

    I'm not necessarily against the interpretation that Tony died and so the screen faded to black. Its a reasonable interpretation. But its certainly not clear cut, especially on first viewing. Find me a person who watched that scene once and never discussed it with anyone or read about it afterwards online, and I'll show you someone who probably has no idea that Tony might have died. But in any case, my point is this: no interpretation should be required. He either died or he didn't. It should not have been left that ambiguous. We should have known when the last frame of the finale aired and the credits rolled just what had happened. I shouldn't have to go and read a Doc Jensen column, or a big huge essay like the one you linked to, to understand. I'm a reasonably smart guy, at least as bright as the average Sopranos viewer (or at least I'd like to think that I am). I shouldn't have been left scratching my head like that. People often like to quote an unwritten rule of movies and television on here: "show us, don't tell us". I'd take it a step further - try to show us, but if you have to tell us, at least tell us within the show. Don't make us go and dig up an obscure 2008 radio interview with the show's creator (from over a year after the finale aired) so that he can explain to us WTF we saw. Don't make us start analyzing bloody camera angles or making us re-watch the final scene two dozen times frame by frame, examining who's looking at whom and who's blocking who's sightlines to Tony to figure out just what it was we were supposed to be left thinking. Don't make us rewatch the whole entire series looking for obscure clues and off-the-cuff foreshadowings that we were supposed to somehow realize when we first saw them would give us a clue to the end of the series. And, yeah, if it was foreshadowed, that's cool. I don't think anyone thinks Chase didn't know how the show would end well in advance of the ending (and, unlike Lost, no one seems to care if he didn't know it from day one). But foreshadowing a crappy ending doesn't make it less crappy. If they hadn't foreshadowed it and gone for a different ending, it wouldn't have diminished the show. I mean, if Tony and Bobby weren't talking about never seeing it coming, or Sylvio didn't comment on how the hit was over before he realized what happened, we wouldn't have missed them saying these things. In any case, the difference with Lost (so far at least, I guess we need to wait to see how it ends) is that Lost has always been pretty in your face that hey, here's a show full of mysteries, most of which will be important later on and every thing we show you might be important. I don't recall Sopranos ever being like that - if a scene seemed like a throw-away scene, it probably was most of the time. Its a little unfair to the viewer to equate that final scene with the Tony/Bobby conversation or Sylvio's remark after the hit, off the top of our heads as soon as we saw that final scene.

  • April 30, 2010, 8:27 p.m. CST


    by ToughGuyRizzo

    Line Breaks: Use em'. Or get AICN power Mod. Cause nobody's reading your post.

  • April 30, 2010, 8:34 p.m. CST


    by MachThree

    I agree, but I must be doing something wrong because I had lines between my paragraphs and yet the post came out as a huge blob of text. I'd go back and edit it if I could, but alas...

  • April 30, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST

    < br > < br > between lines

    by ToughGuyRizzo

  • April 30, 2010, 8:40 p.m. CST


    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...funny callin lostboy alexis texas... do i presume ya like the bubble butts? if so, youre (sorta) cool in my book... the other part is DnC are liars or dont stick to their "word"... i heard him say no more flashbacks but thats what Richards ep was... just sayin, those guys arent truly reliable so lost can still be purgatory (or they can make up a new word wit the same definition so they could say they were always tellin the "truth")

  • April 30, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST


    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...I just got done watchin kick ass and that lost line was spot on... especially since we all wont know what will happen on lost

  • April 30, 2010, 8:49 p.m. CST


    by ToughGuyRizzo

    Yeah,<br /><br />I do have to admit, I am not digging this season as much as I thought I would. So, I'll take that back. <br />I'm a patient dude, but NOW is the time we get answers. Now mofo's. IT'S ABOUT FUCKIN TIME.<br /><br /><br />It could be purgatory. If it is, then I will pull a fuckin Assassin's Creed on D&C. But I think they should know enough not to fuck the fans over like that.<br /><br />I also am a fan of Stacey Valentine and Debi Diamond. Ashlyn Gere is in the top 5, lol.

  • April 30, 2010, 8:54 p.m. CST


    by sanzaru

    (To paraphrase the Beatles) ...And in "The End"- the LOST you take is equal to the LOST you make...?

  • April 30, 2010, 9:07 p.m. CST

    ...Lol Riz

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...Yea it has been, but hopefully they will pull somethin magnificient out their asses... and if not, we can always get the follow up series that should answer all the questions that they cant NOW... like why the hell is the island is racist? and never heard of the other ladies ya mentioned, but ill keep a eye open for em lol

  • April 30, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST



    read your post and agree

  • April 30, 2010, 9:35 p.m. CST


    by ToughGuyRizzo

    Yeah, Stacey and Ashlin are kinda old school. But well worth looking up, lol.<br /><br />Anyway, Wasn't happy with the last ep, but I'm keeping up hope for Tuesday.

  • April 30, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST


    by ToughGuyRizzo

    I sent him a color by numbers type artwork I did a few weeks ago. Hoping he'll mention it on his dispatches blog site.

  • April 30, 2010, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Better than BSG ending

    by FrodoFraggins

    They've already stated that it won't be a copout like the Soprano's finale. They've also stated they thought that the Shield finale was excellent.<br><br> I haven't heard their opinions about the BSG ending, but I hope they feel the same way as I do. I don't want the writers to leave nothing to conjecture the way BSG basically hand fed us the entire "God did it" crap. I don't care that that's the answer, I just wish they had left it more ambiguous.

  • April 30, 2010, 10:26 p.m. CST

    HollywoodHellraiser - No big screen adaptation

    by enderandrew

    Part of negotiating a set end date was also negotiating that they didn't want ABC to try and force a spin-off or movie. They said they want to tell a story, walk away and be done.<p>And they didn't write themselves into a corner. I have my own theory how it all goes down. I've been calling it since the premier, and each new week only further cements how confident I feel about it.

  • May 1, 2010, 12:31 a.m. CST

    Only linear thinkers want a tidy Lost finale.

    by AnnoyYou

    I don't care if they ever answer every question or tie up every loose end - the journey was far more interesting than any cut-and-dried ending. I hope that no one I love dies [Sawyer, Jin, Sun, Richard, Ben] and I hope some people I hate get blowed up real good [Jack, Kate], but I have no real expectations. Just as long as there's no dead guy in a shower/autistic kid with a snowglobe, I'll be happy.

  • May 1, 2010, 2:53 a.m. CST

    Still Don't Care

    by 2LeggedFreak

    If they don't answer every single question.<br /><br />What I think ( and sorry for banging on about it every time) most concerns me though is that the mystery aspect was used to avoid having to give some of the motivation behind some of the frankly mystifying shit that people got up to in early seasons.<br /><br />Lets hope that some of this is explained in the final episodes.

  • May 1, 2010, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Really can't be bothered to read alll this garbage..

    by champvinyl

    All I'll say... Is get it the hell out of your systems, maybe the lost TB this week won't have an overwhelming stench of vitriol like it usually does. <P> Theres only 4 eps (kinda) left, haters, please, lets just watch this gongshow together and argue about it afterwards?

  • May 1, 2010, 10:40 a.m. CST

    It's all a test... my prediction

    by Russman

    the ones who pass wake up underwater and swim to the surface passing the dead bodies of all who failed the test. The survivors float on some debris and are soon rescued and then the show ends.

  • May 1, 2010, 11:30 a.m. CST

    My only question

    by Sebilrazen

    What happened to Vincent?

  • May 1, 2010, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Vincent is still in 1977 with Rose and Bernard

    by paburrows

    I would assume.

  • May 1, 2010, 12:15 p.m. CST

    I've changed my mind about wanting all the answers.

    by I_Sharted

    In the first couple of seasons I thought all of this must have an answer but now I'm going more with the mentality that I don't want every little thing explained because it WILL take some of the fun out of it. I want the major questions answered and I'll be satisfied. I think Lindelof said it's like the Force in Star Wars. It was a lot cooler and mystical before you learned that it was based on midichlorians. As long as we don't get a pitiful excuse for an explanation like we did from BSG I'll be happy. Fuck Ron Moore. But that's a topic for another discussion.

  • May 1, 2010, 12:41 p.m. CST


    by Smoke Monster Loves Kate

    "The book series was once developed by JJ Abrams and his Lost cohorts Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, but they never cracked it."<p>I always figured they were gonna copy The Dark Tower's ending but hoped they wouldn't but now I change my mind. Just copy that ending and don't fuck it up any more than that.

  • May 1, 2010, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Hurley's final speech revealed!!!

    by mooli_mooli

    Hurley: "I see angels, angels in this very room. Now I may be mad, but that doesnt mean that I am not right. Because there is another force at work here, there always has been. Its undeniable, we have all experienced it, everyone in this room has witnessed events that they can't fathom, let alone explain by rational means."

  • May 1, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Some people...

    by Cartman86

    Island as a Space ship? The creators said they will not answer what the "island is" (they cite midichlorians as why it would be bad). To get a little more speculative I don't think our answer is going to science fictiony in any way. Also I can't believe I'm seeing posts by people saying they are still making it up as they go along. You can shit on the show all you want, but your argument becomes just crazy talk if you think they at least didn't have a clear plan by the end of last season. They don't have a plan for a movie so quit with this conspiracy bullshit. Oh and Angel/Buffy better than Lost? I'm slightly on that side. I love em both, but the characters in the Whedon shows were much better.

  • May 1, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST

    that simply means, even they dont know how to end this

    by quintana007

  • May 1, 2010, 4:35 p.m. CST

    This particular writing

    by 2LeggedFreak

    has been on the wall for some time.<br /><br />Whats going to be amusing is that those folk who have never had ridiculous expectations and have pointed out flaws and been labelled as "haters" and "trolls" are going to be the rationale ones when the final discussions are taking place.<br /><br />Whilst those who have been living in cloud cuckoo land and imagining that this is the best show ever are going to be going apeshit if this announcement is the damage limitation attempt I think it is.<br /><br />The final talk-back could well be the event of the year. !!!

  • May 1, 2010, 5:19 p.m. CST

    ahhh LOOK its 2Legged!!!

    by jay2517

    with his ever so "positive critique". man, ur a broken record broheim...

  • May 1, 2010, 5:27 p.m. CST

    let me guess...

    by jay2517

    the shows pacing is off?? the answers are not up to par and uninspiring?? and all they do is walk around??? STFU already...

  • May 1, 2010, 5:46 p.m. CST

    The final talkback WILL be the event of the year

    by paburrows

    After those that don't like it have said their part and left there will be tons of awesome theorizing going on.

  • May 1, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST


    by Dr. Ironfist

    Agreed. That about sums it up. <P>I feel sorry for those in the UK. Isn't the finale not showing until Friday night there?

  • May 1, 2010, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Yeah. We get it on the Friday.

    by theGoldbergV

    So I guess I'll either join the finale TB 5 days after or not at all, depending on how good it is. The "we're building new sets" thing from the interview is interesting, a new Dharma station? Another Temple? What is left on the Island? I'm thinking its gonna be whatever is on the other side of that wall from the donkey wheel...of course that is based on nothing other than it would be cool to see <P><P>95% of what makes LOST so good is the theorizing and the ambiguity, so how sucessful it is will depend on a.)how good the explanations are and b.)what they DON'T explain. So many of the most interesting questions for me have been explained away this season with just throwaway lines like "Jacob had a thing for numbers" and "we're not able to pass over" and "the Dharma initiative were experimenting with subliminal messages". The best reveal this season was "sorry you had to see me like that" by MIB. Now THAT was a great reveal. The Island is a cork was a great reveal. Black Rock? Hmmmn. I'm on the fence with that one. The fact they have new locations for the finale at least suggests we'll be SHOWN answers rather than simply hearing them. Now all I have to do is avoid the spoilers

  • May 1, 2010, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Vincent is driving the Golden Pontiac...

    by Royston Lodge

    ...with the Hurley Bird riding shotgun.

  • May 1, 2010, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Rabbit #15 is in the lead in his T-Bird

    by paburrows

  • May 2, 2010, 3:25 a.m. CST

    Hi Jay

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Good to hear from you big fella !!<br /><br />Always a pleasure dealing with you..unlike MacFaux (yeugh!)<br /><br />NB I notice that Rizzo...ever the most sane of the real Lost stalwarts...has intimated that Season 6 is a bit of a disappointment for him.<br /><br />How do you cope with that with your standard " You're a retard" type responses.<br /><br />Must be hard for a one track pony like you to be able to know where to go when one of the most intelligent and proven Lost fans out there expresses a view like that mustn't it.<br /><br />Later big man.

  • May 2, 2010, 4:05 a.m. CST

    zoe is annie

    by volcanobattlesmokey

  • May 2, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST

    @volcanobattlesmokey ..well, yeah, sure.... Again. spoilish?

    by MacFaux

    That is what he wrote ....<br /><br />That is not what he meant ....<br /><br />Snerd.<br /><br />3 things. Well. Maybe four. five. Whatever it takes.. <br /><br />1. Your taste in music is bonnie, Sinéad and Roger and 501 Lexington and, yeah.. Water.. show me..<br /><br />2. "Satire or sense, alas! can Sporus feel?<br /><br />~Who breaks a butterfly upon a wheel?"<br /><br />3. Oh. Well, as to lyrics, Weellll, allow me to retort:<br /><br />Recent years were unsung<br />I lit'em up<br />Burning my Horror-scope<br />Recent fears I've undone<br />I give'em up<br />Sick of my bogus ghost<br />Rising up, it reached my highest line....<br /><br />C'mon Katie don't drown me this time!<br /><br />Curious. Why does Kate kill Sawyer?<br /><br />hmmpf. What Kate does. hmmpf.<br /><br />Mother.?!? Do you wanna bang heads with me?<br /><br />Cliff Richard and Danny Concannon approves.<br /><br />....By the way, Danny Concannon won a Pulitzer prize from the fourth row, General Alexander!

  • May 2, 2010, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Shit. Pulled in West Wing to mention... paraphrasin

    by MacFaux

    Folk here. They are not obsessed. They are just fans.... and they care....<br /><br />I'm a fan. I'm a sports fan, I'm a music fan and I'm a LOST fan. All of them. But here's what I don't do. Tell me if any of this sounds familiar:<br /><br />Let's list our ten favorite LOST episodes. Let's list our ten least favorite LOST episodes. Let's list our favorite characters' foibles. Let's make a chart to see how often our favorite characters' foibles appear in our ten favorite episodes. And, then. In our ten least favorite episodes which characters' foibles reappear in our ten favorite LOST episodes.? And then... Let's watch back all that again. And be Mad at the writers and PTB for not foing the things we thought ..we wanted and.. welllll...<br /><br />Let's type about what 'other' we would most like to see coupled with a 815'er and why? Let's spend a couple months talking about LA X'ers falling in love with 'others' and then....<br /><br />....let's do it again. <br /><br />That's not being a fan.<br /><br />That's having a fetish.<br /><br />And I don't have a problem with that, except you can't bring your hobbies in to Life, okay?'<br /><br />Unless you want to start an educational mission slash hair salon slash adventure cooking school with Ms. Evangeline Lilly Namibia.<br /><br />Sheeeet. I just totally big timed and belittled most of the yackbackers here.. especially, Herc, Harry, Pa, Rizzo, Cheif, Jay, NaPa Vikki, D.Vader, Umpire, Billbo, Volcan, Royston, Volko, Champ, theBigE, Maniaq, Fain, Lamerz, Executor, jaka, Rosa, Crow, Goldberg, Scriptgirl, Hobo, Cherry, Fish, 'X' , Jimbo and Jambon, 2leg, Lostboy, Daryl and his other login daryl, ..others.. and Miyamoto and Maltheus ...and MacFaux...<br /><br />Heh, wait a sec..<br /><br /><br />GodsDammit! C'MON, Katie, don't drown me this time.. <br /><br />I Lurv this show and the shit here and aboot!<br />

  • May 2, 2010, 1:29 p.m. CST

    STFU Faux...

    by jay2517

    QUIET!!! im reenacting "Stranger In A Strange Land" with my McFarlane Lost figures brotha...shhhhhhhh!!

  • May 2, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST

    yea 2Legged my brain exploded with Rizz's comments...

    by jay2517

    i just couldnt handle it brotha!! oh yea if forgot to add...*SARCASM*... for u retarded spiders on here...

  • May 2, 2010, 1:43 p.m. CST

    the differnence 2Legged is...

    by jay2517

    that Rizz will post what he does'nt like ONCE and be done idiotboy. he doesnt like certain aspects so far and thats fine and his opinion. like yours also. negative or disagreeing opinions are fine. state what u dont like and MOVE ON to another topic broheim! he just doesnt drone ON AND ON about the same things and yet CONTINUES to watch like u fukwad. Lost hasnt changed anything storytelling wise yet HERE U ARE (6 fucking seasons later!)still complaining. sad really...

  • May 2, 2010, 2:10 p.m. CST

    @jay2517 now owe me full measure..

    by MacFaux

    of the awesome Jack Daniel's Single Barrel I had in reserve and is now all over me monitor.. and on my clothes ..and on everything else..cause I mental pic'd you acting out LOST with action figures..<br /><br />"Oh NOooooooo, Mr. Bill!"<br /><br />goddammmit.<br /><br />..and while you are makin amends why don't you give me back my $1500 I burnt on 'Dean’s Kitten' ...friggin name suck. I had $100 on a Quad box 4-2-10-8 ...frakkin Darlton. frakkin numerology. frakkin Dean's Kitten!<br /><br /> Chuck Klosterman might say ...85% true there, ya know..<br /><br />Ok. Got that out my system. <br /><br />hmmmpf. See ya Tuesday Afternoon. Sorry, Jay, i'm moody ..and bluez. Chasin the clouds away.<br /><br />

  • May 2, 2010, 2:23 p.m. CST

    I love it when you talk like that Jay

    by 2LeggedFreak

    oooh goosebumps.

  • May 2, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST

    somehow that doesnt surprise me 2Legged...

    by jay2517


  • the Jack figure (dont call them DOLLS!!!) couldnt get in character cause Ling was a Enchanted Dora figure. i told him-- hey at least she has dark skin...NOW DO WHAT U GET PAID TO DO!!! ACT MOTHERFUCKER!!! SAY THE LINES!!!

  • May 2, 2010, 3:23 p.m. CST

    hey 2 legged I'm with you buddy

    by theGoldbergV

    anyone who says season 6 doesn't represent a drop in quality is blinkered by viewer loyalty. My reasons for saying this are all up the page in my previous posts so I won't repeat myself but safe to say that character motivation is important to me to get behind the story. The flaw in season 6 is that the story dictates that we don't know what motivates our characters, from notLocke to Jacob, but then there's Widmore, Desmond, Richard, Ben, Ilana (pre-blowed up), Hurley, Claire, Sayid. I can't believe it, but last episode actuallu had me warming to Kate because at least with her we UNDERSTAND wahat she's doing, she's trying to get Claire back to Aaron. A proper motivation, based on real world dynamics, and something we can relate to. Of course pointing out any of this gets you labelled as a "troll" or a "hater"

  • May 2, 2010, 4 p.m. CST

    no berg...

    by jay2517

    ur just not getting the season 6 that YOU wanted. nothing has changed story or story telling wise this season. its bound to happen to some fans. ur blinkering(?) urself broheim lol...

  • May 2, 2010, 4:03 p.m. CST

    You're right Jay

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Nothing has changed, they are still the most poorly motivated characters in television history.<br /><br />Good spot.

  • May 2, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST

    for example berg...

    by jay2517

    if the island doesnt turn into a spaceship(!!) and fly off some fans will be pissed. if jack doesnt morph (literally) into jacob they will be pissed. same with including (if they do) walt. just because ur not getting the season u wanted in ur head doesnt make it a "dropped in quality" season...

  • May 2, 2010, 4:07 p.m. CST


    by jay2517

    ur right nothing has changed crybaby...

  • May 2, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Jay ...for fucks sake

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Get your head around the fact that its not about the endings that people wanted.<br /><br />This is about basic story telling.<br /><br />To make a story compelling and interesting you need to understand the motivations of the main characters. If you don't have motivation then you are fucked in terms of a decent story..its all just random meaningless actions.<br /><br />If the actors don't understand the motivations of their charactesr then they are fucked in terms of putting on a decent performance. Notice how as Jack and Kate have become more clear in their motivations this season, their character ratings have gone up. Its not a coincidence big fella.<br /><br />Do you get that ?<br /><br /><br />

  • May 2, 2010, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Dude thats just wrong in so many ways

    by paburrows

  • May 2, 2010, 4:40 p.m. CST

    refering to Jays action figures

    by paburrows

  • May 2, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    I think that theres be lots of character motivation.

    by paburrows

    I have love the story

  • May 2, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Her's one for you Pa

    by 2LeggedFreak

    What motivated all the Others we have seen backing up Ben for a number of seasons ?

  • May 2, 2010, 5 p.m. CST

    GOOD LORD 2Legged u idiot...

    by jay2517


  • May 2, 2010, 5:01 p.m. CST

    and yes i stuu stuu studder when im pissed lol...

    by jay2517

    at idiot "fans" brotha...

  • May 2, 2010, 5:04 p.m. CST

    i guess ur the type of dumass that needs...

    by jay2517

    like a whole season worth of PREVIOUSLY ON LOST recaps for u to understand the current episode right?? i guess u dont get that do u fella??

  • May 2, 2010, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Jay Jay Jay

    by 2LeggedFreak

    You saying these things in caps doesn't make them true...go on explain to me what all Bens sidekicks motivations were.<br /><br />The Others were an integral adversary for the Losties for quite a while until they all died...what was their motivation for how they acted.<br /><br />And try to answer properly without the name calling , just to show you can.

  • May 2, 2010, 5:08 p.m. CST

    hey PA i have to motivate the actors ya know??

    by jay2517


  • May 2, 2010, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Any chance of an answer ?

    by 2LeggedFreak

  • May 2, 2010, 5:11 p.m. CST

    good lord...

    by jay2517

    ben was the leader. u do understand that right. he was lying and saying that jacob told him certain things to do. also, they were protecting the island from widmore and any "outsiders". u really need stuff explained slowly dont u?

  • May 2, 2010, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Thats it is it...

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Thats why they kidnapped and killed and tortured..because Ben told them to.<br /><br />Thats some motivation you've accepted at face value my friend.<br /><br />From now on I am going to call you Mimsy, and MacFaux Nathan, after the brilliant characterisations of the two of you on this weeks South Park.<br /><br />Cheers Mimsy.

  • May 2, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST

    "face value"???? do u even actually pay attention??

    by jay2517

    u do watch the shows dont u??? GOD, just go away fukface PLEASE!! u have proven time and again how utterly STUPID u are concerning this show broheim. just because the show doesnt give YOU the answers along the way u want doesnt make the answers any less answers...

  • May 2, 2010, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Same old Same Old, Mimsy

    by 2LeggedFreak

    The whole motivation for the Others is weak beyond belief.<br /><br />You haven't a fucking clue where half of these people came from or what they wanted or why they would be so bought into protecting the Island from Widmore.<br /><br />Not a fucking clue.<br /><br />

  • May 2, 2010, 5:36 p.m. CST

    typical just....typical...

    by jay2517

    and so sad really. u really cant understand this show can u?? there are TONS of clues u just cant grasp them little man. no matter what right answer u get u just shit on it. ur the one with no fucking clue. i pity ur sad life u fuck...

  • May 2, 2010, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Mimsy, Mimsy, Mimsy

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Lets leave that now and talk about something else.<br /><br />How are you doing after Jaka owned you.<br /><br />That was brutal wasn't it.<br /><br />Hope alls well.

  • May 2, 2010, 5:40 p.m. CST

    man...if a show disappointed me THIS much...

    by jay2517

    id just quit seriously watching it. i mean, who hates all aspects and answers and continues to watch? oh yea, attention seeking sad people i.e. trolls...

  • May 2, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Yes you are, I know you are

    by 2LeggedFreak

    But what am I ?

  • May 2, 2010, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Face it Mimsy

    by 2LeggedFreak

    When the first Alien space ship appears and you realise that nothing with Dharma or the Others has been remotely of any fucking point what so ever...then even your bombast isn't going to save you from having to face facts.<br /><br />I've told you before I like Lost but it aint perfect chummy. <br /><br />

  • May 2, 2010, 5:44 p.m. CST

    LOL (((JAKA)))... thats all u got???

    by jay2517

    ask him im sure ur sucking him off lol. AGAIN... so spouting off inaccuracies is "owning" someone? man, get off his jock cause hes more "man" then u are (and thats not saying much). now, go email him broheim so he can TRY to fight ur battles...

  • May 2, 2010, 5:47 p.m. CST

    We don't email

    by 2LeggedFreak

    We have a secret Blog site where we talk about YOU.<br /><br />Its so funny. Every one comes and posts something.<br /><br />Well except you obviously..and Nathan ( MacFaux) because nobody likes him.

  • May 2, 2010, 5:48 p.m. CST

    as i have said before... U DONT LIKE LOST...

    by jay2517

    ur a LIAR. no one can bitch about a show THIS MUCH and actually "like" it. no show is perfect fukwad DUH! way to enlighten us!!

  • May 2, 2010, 5:48 p.m. CST

    The Blog is Called....

    by 2LeggedFreak

    "Darwin Fails"<br /><br />On the basis that nothing as stupid as you could have evolved through natural selection.

  • May 2, 2010, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Us Mimsy...who is this Us

    by 2LeggedFreak

    You are on your own in your own little psycho lab honey...there is no "us".<br /><br />Yep you may have a few compatriots on here who will talk nicely to you and back up your bombast.<br /><br />Bet they'd crap themselves to death at the idea of meeting up with you for a drink. Go on ask a'll be hysterical.

  • May 2, 2010, 5:59 p.m. CST

    US-- normal, rational fans of the show...

    by jay2517

    u wouldnt fall into that category broheim. wow! u just tried projecting ur self-esteem onto me! next ur gonna call me out on how much pussy i dont get...

  • May 2, 2010, 6:01 p.m. CST

    thats slang for a girls vagina 2Legged...

    by jay2517

    dont bother looking it up mmmk?

  • May 2, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST

    You, Rational !!!

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Are you having a fucking laugh.?<br /><br />As Jaka pointed out you'd barely register as a sane human being .<br /><br />Normal and Rational...what a hoot !

  • May 2, 2010, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Gotta Go Jay

    by 2LeggedFreak

    I am k-naxckered.<br /><br />Going to tuck up in bed with a glass of coke and a Colin Bateman book.<br /><br />Irish Crime Writer--- Very good and Very should have a look if you get a chance.<br /><br />C'ya

  • May 2, 2010, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Nice bitchfest guys...anyway, motivations

    by theGoldbergV

    why did Hurley suddenly decide to go see Locke out of the blue? Why does Richard think blowing up the plane is a good idea? What about Desmond's motivation? what about Claire? Has Frank ever said anything about what he wants from the Island? Just 'get off'? Frank was introduced as a conspiracy theorist, now he's stuck on a magic Island with a monster and all he does he say one-liners! <P><P>What was the point of Ilana, what was her motivation, to help Jacob, WHY? What had he done for her (apart from presumably get her out of the full-plastercast thing)?I don't get it when people complain about the Tailies because they "weren't important" to the storyline. For me every character is important as long as you understand them and they contribute to the story, Ilana did neither. Just a plot point and then blown up. Remember when Ilana and Ceasar joined the cast in s5? Darlton said "we'e putting the pieces together for the finale, these characters are part of the endgame". Really? How did THAT work out? <p><p>2 legged is right about the others. Bonnie and whatsherface in the underwater dharma station had unquestioning loyalty to Jacob. Willing to die for him. Are we supposed to believe now that Ben just made up all the stuff that Jacob supposedly said to him, if so, then why did he get such loyalty from his followers? Is he THAT good a liar? I hope they pay-off the whole Cabin thing in the last 4 episodes, because at the moment its like the whole thing is a retcon. The first time we saw the cabin, Jacob is this mysterious guy living in a cabin who hates technology. then he asks for Locke's help. Then its someone else. Then Ben made it all up. What?! <p><p>I am kind of railign on it this season, not because its "not the story I wanted" its because the story isn't as good as it was in previous years. I like the sideays stuff, but the Island story has been lacking

  • May 2, 2010, 7:26 p.m. CST

    There's a lot of deaths this week

    by RPLocke

    I hear some MAJOR deaths. I think people will be pleased. Very pleased. Then following is the big Jacob/MIB backstory episode.

  • May 2, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST

    see above Berg...see above....

    by jay2517

    man, some of you are really Lost...

  • May 2, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST

    The whole show is a retarded kid's daydream

    by Arcadian Del Sol

    Jack, father of said retard, is actually a telephone repairman and the Island is a snowglobe.

  • May 2, 2010, 8:06 p.m. CST

    i guess u two ACTUALLY need darlton and cuse...

    by jay2517

    to have a podcast or episode and sit down and EXPLAIN every little thing to u fellas. heaven forbid u actually think...

  • May 2, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST

    lindeloff too would help lol...

    by jay2517

  • May 2, 2010, 8:11 p.m. CST

    The Others motivation

    by paburrows

    I think that its a number of reasons that the Others stayed on the island. Part of it I think was that Jacob may or may not have personally "touched" like he did with Jack and all of the other candidates that Jacob wrote on the cave wall and/or Lighthouse dial. There might have been something special that Jacob had done for them like how he (possibly) brought Locke back to life or how he had been like a Father to Illana (which Im guessing that we may still get more on her). Jacob had some sort of hand in the lives of almost everyone who came to the island. As Mikial discribed Jacob as He is a great man (Or something like that) There were other Others that said things like that. <br> <br>Another factor that lead to the Others devotion or motivation if you will was a little trickery on Ben's part. Jacob would give a message to Richard to deliver it to Ben. We already know from things like Room 23 and Ben's comment to Locke about the fact that Ben had lead the Others to think that they could come and go when they pleased from the island. He had also been able to keep the Others in the dark about The Looking Glass. So you have the devotion to Jacob mixed with Ben who was constantly lying to the Others about Jacob's will. You can kind of think of the Others as having a cult like mentality. <br> <br> I mean this show isn't high end as some of the shows that people have mention as being great or better, but I have not interest in watching a cop or legal or a show about drugs or something else. I like Lost and it make sense to me.

  • May 2, 2010, 8:18 p.m. CST

    uh oh PA....

    by jay2517

    get ready to for those reasons to be "disputed". even though those reasons are very evident if u use deductive logic and both sides of ur brain broheim...

  • May 2, 2010, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Um, the others could go or come back because

    by RPLocke

    They had the Sub. Mr. Friendly went to the mainland to wait for Michael. Ben didn't let Juliet go back cause he needed her to get Jack.

  • May 2, 2010, 8:58 p.m. CST

    And when the sub was destroyed

    by RPLocke

    they used Desmond's boat. Besides, most of the Others were just lackies for Ben.

  • May 2, 2010, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Yes but only a select few actually left the island

    by paburrows

    Ben, Tom and Richard were the only ones shown.Ben lead them to believe that they could leave the island when ever they wanted, but if they had actually tried he probably would have done something. He said as much to Locke after he blew up the sub. As for Desmonds boat I doubt that Ben ever shared the cordinates to leave with just anyone.

  • May 2, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST


    by RPLocke

    During the Dharma days people came and went all the time. We never saw how. Ben had the two babes at the looking Glass station believing that they were still in contact with the outside world. When Desmond's hatch imploded Mikhail said that all communication to the outside was cut off.

  • May 2, 2010, 10:34 p.m. CST

    lol jay...youre dumb

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...been a while but jay you are... seriously, your fellow "fans" are disappointed (ya know, like that tough guy ya wanna fellate)... its not bout WHAT WE WANT its about WHAT WERE GIVEN... i understand your life isnt perfect and THIS is the ONLY thing you got (since this is the only tb i see ya in), but remember ya still got your remarkable life as a USED car salesmen and well thats it... in short, you suck... in long, you reallllllllllllllllllllllllly suck....

  • May 2, 2010, 10:46 p.m. CST

    lost is like #5 now

    by yourSTEPDADDY MY top lists... was watchin old episodes of Buffy today (on logo... does that make me gay2517?) and i completely forgot how great it was... so basically my top five hourlongs... buffy, angel, DAWSONS CREEK (bitchs), dollhouse, and then lost... dependin on how this ends and how good Supernatural goes, there may be a new #4n5

  • May 2, 2010, 10:48 p.m. CST

    lost is like #5 now

    by yourSTEPDADDY MY top lists... was watchin old episodes of Buffy today (on logo... does that make me gay2517?) and i completely forgot how great it was... so basically my top five hourlongs... buffy, angel, DAWSONS CREEK (bitchs), dollhouse, and then lost... dependin on how this ends and how good Supernatural goes, there may be a new #4n5

  • May 2, 2010, 10:48 p.m. CST

    lost is like #5 now

    by yourSTEPDADDY MY top lists... was watchin old episodes of Buffy today (on logo... does that make me gay2517?) and i completely forgot how great it was... so basically my top five hourlongs... buffy, angel, DAWSONS CREEK (bitchs), dollhouse, and then lost... dependin on how this ends and how good Supernatural goes, there may be a new #4n5

  • May 2, 2010, 10:49 p.m. CST

    and yes, 3 posts on purpose...

    by yourSTEPDADDY

  • May 2, 2010, 11:19 p.m. CST

    Tallies, Illana and death

    by paburrows

    The way that I look at it is that the Talies were important to the story. They brought in new people which allowed for new stories, it opened up the island since During most of season 1 the castaways rarely left the beach since they were so scared of the Monster getting them or the mysterious Others kidnapping or killing them. It gave us a different perspective on Jacks leadership since Ana Lucias had a different leadership style. It also added to Rose's character with Bernard. Plus it gave Hurley a love interest for awile and added to the minor religious theme with Eko that was started with Charlie, Rose and in a different way Locke. Plus it created interesting stories with Ana shooting Shannon and the Tallie having to mix with the castaways. Also killing off Ana and Libby gave more weight to the severity of what Michael did. <br> <br> With Illana her main job, the way that I see it was to give important imformation to the candidates, that they were Candidates for Jacob. She filled her purpose and just like with Michael when the island was done with her she was taken off the gameboard. Just like in Harry Potter you have important characters, some go to the end of the series and others are there for a purpose and then get killed off.

  • May 2, 2010, 11:25 p.m. CST

    Thats just what Im saying RPLocke

    by paburrows

    Ben They may have come and gone all the time in Dharma days, but Ben used all his tricks post Dharma to keep the Others on island. He even made them think that it was all their idea he was so good at that back then.

  • May 2, 2010, 11:31 p.m. CST

    LOOK everybody its stepDAD!!!!

    by jay2517

    yaaaaaeeeeee! man AWESOME input there. guess "thinking" eludes him too...*sigh*...

  • May 2, 2010, 11:35 p.m. CST

    and as always...great points PA...

    by jay2517

    however did u get BOTH sides of ur brain and common sense to work at the same time??

  • really stepDAD? i have a life OUTSIDE of the internet broheim (sorry if the that offends other tb'ers). obviously U DONT and neither do ur brethren. u live ur life posting on the net and this site and thats all u got...i get that ok? ur are the antithesis of normal, rational, "cool" people. basically ur a movie version dork lol...

  • May 3, 2010, 12:24 a.m. CST

    ...8==) :) (==8

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...the above image is how jay spends his time offline when hes not sellin kia used cars... wit dicks in his face, not callin him gay.....,.........but he really likes dicks in his face

  • May 3, 2010, 2:37 a.m. CST

    Just to Point Out

    by 2LeggedFreak

    The Others were there long before Ben became their leader so your explanations for them don't really make sense.<br /><br />They will only ever have got there because Jacob brought them...probably as part of he and MIB's "tests".<br /><br />Why they would stay there, why they are such complete assholes to anybody else, has never been explained.

  • May 3, 2010, 6:15 a.m. CST

    Some good points PA re: others

    by theGoldbergV

    However, the whole Richard, Jacob and cabin thing makes no sense to me. If Richard was the go between for Ben and Jacob, then how does MIB (if it was MIB) in the Cabin fit into that? Why would Widmore say "jacob wants the child dead" regarding Alex? As for the sub, I always thought there was some other way the Others were getting off the Island. Did Richard use the sub to go visit Locke as a child? What about Tom in during season 3 when he went to see Michael (technically s4 but you get my point)? Wasn't the sub destroyed by then? <P><P>Not all of these are big problems I accept that. Most are just minor quibbles. But if they don't explain the Cabin then that leaves a big hole in the story. I think its clear that despite what Darlton says, the heirarchy of the Others was never really worked out until the end of season 5, if not later. <P><P>Forgetting all that for a second though, the biggest hole in the story right now is the sideways timeline not adding up.

  • May 3, 2010, 6:56 a.m. CST

    Live show

    by Dazzler69

    They should do a survivor type of live show with full cast and writers to answer questions. Should get Jeff Probst to host.

  • May 3, 2010, 8:57 a.m. CST


    by David Assholehoff

    I like Lost a LOT, but I "lost" interest after season 3. I'm back into it now, and digging it, but don't have time to watch the episodes I missed. Did they ever, or will they explain the big mechanical sounding creatures that were moving around in the jungle? And the polar bears? I always wanted the island to have more of the Mysterious Island, sci-fi angle...

  • May 3, 2010, 10 a.m. CST

    Ha Ha Ha

    by 2LeggedFreak

    LostBoy...don't think these say one way or another that the finale will be bad.<br /><br />However it is hysterical that the emotional aspect for the characters is just described by using the word "Fuck".<br /><br />e.g.:<br /><br />Sawyer sees XXXXXXXX ----(FUCK)<br /><br />XXXXXXX appears ---(FUCK)<br /><br />Thats the level of writing --incredible

  • May 3, 2010, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Maybe thats the way these things are done though

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Excerpt from famous movie scripts:<br /><br />Superman staggers back as Luthor reveals his chunk of kryptonite ---(FUCK)<br /><br />Simba looks down on the dead and battered body of his father----(FUCK)<br /><br />The Doctor looks down and sees from Sam's beautific smile that he has escaped the torturers chair ---(FUCK)<br /><br />Vader has the renegade ship in his sights " I have you now" he intones - Cut to Millenium Falcon screaming out of the sky ----(FUCK)<br /><br />With a gasp Ted hit his vinegar stroke --but wait, where's the jizz---(FUCK)<br /><br /><br /><br />

  • May 3, 2010, 10:13 a.m. CST

    How the scripts are written...

    by MachThree

    I have no idea how these things are usually done, but... The writers are the writers. Isn't it supposed to be up to the directors to film the shot and get the actors to act in a way that conveys the general idea of what the writers are trying to get across? How much detail is needed vs. the director's / actor's interpretation. Why say: "Sawyer crinkles his nose, lowers his eyebrows in a scowl that could make an island diety cower in fear, as his eyes stab flames towards 'Ol Smokey" when they can just say "FUCK" and be done with it?

  • May 3, 2010, 10:25 a.m. CST

    hopefully we will get a vincent flashback

    by ORIONgods

  • May 3, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST

    I want a Vincent flashsideways.

    by Royston Lodge

    A Boy and his Dog in Reality#2.

  • May 3, 2010, 11:07 a.m. CST


    by 2LeggedFreak

    Jay can write ?<br /><br />You do know that its a specially trained Capuchin monkey that writes for him don't you.<br /><br />He just grunts his usual obcenities and the monkey types it out.<br /><br />Thats why there's hardly any variation --the monkey can only type out certain phrases learnt by rote---its not like either of them are fully sentient enough for complex variations.<br /><br />Try typing in "Banana" mid conversation with Jay and watch all hell break loose !!!

  • May 3, 2010, 11:17 a.m. CST

    2LeggedFreak - Others

    by paburrows

    In my opinion I think that the reason why they have been such jerks have been for a number of reasons. Part of it is Jacob's actual orders. I think that part of the process of Jacob finding a replacement has been to ask the Others to do things that would test candidates. Kind of a selection process. The rest has been because of the leadership. You have Widmore, Eloise and Ben. All three of them have seemed to have questionable motives and both Widmore and Ben have made command decisions that that I don't really think that Jacob really approved of. Like Jacob might have ordered Danielle's deaths, but something tells me that was more Widmore since Ben challenged him on it and not being Jacob's will. Im also kind of doubting that Jacob ordered Ben to kidnap Jack, Sawyer, Kate and Hurley to get that operation. Juliet told the castaways that Ethan had been sent to monitor Claire, but that the kidnapping has him, going rogue. Also Richard told Locke that some of the Others were losing patience with Ben's fertility stuff. I would guess that he was hiding the fact that it was Jacob that was getting tired of the fertility stuff. My guess is that Jacob would use Richard to communicate things and sometimes the Others leadership would follow it and sometimes they would make stuff up that suited their agenda and say that it was from Jacob. From the Jacob/Richard conversation we learned that Jacob seemed to be kind of a hands off leader/deity/whatever else he might be.

  • May 3, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Thanks Pa

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Useful insight.<br /><br />Jacob hasn't being doing a good job as the "good guys God" has he.<br /><br />I think its when Ben and others said to the Losties early on that they were the good guys even though their actions didn't really back it up that I expected some revelation that would justify this comment. <br /><br />Never happened unfortunately.

  • May 3, 2010, 11:57 a.m. CST


    by paburrows

    As for the cabin its my opinion that MIB has been trapped in the cabin (Im betting though that we get some sort of answer in the Across the Sea episode or whatever its called.) When Ben took Locke to the cabin he acted like that was a regular occurance, but we now know that Ben really never had visited Jacob and that his main place was the statue. That was during the time that Ben felt threatened over Locke's specialness making his specialness lesser and that Locke was a rival. So I think that the title "The man behind the curtian is doublely apt. Ben has this huge ruse going on with the Others and also was kind of showing off to his rival trying to put him in his place by pretending to talk to Jacob (just like Hurley pretended to talk to Jacob about going to see MIB)<br> <br> It really freaked Ben out when he got the reation that he did from what he thought was Jacob (or as he thought an empty cabin) I doubt that he would have really taken Locke to the real Jacob even if he had been speaking to him directly. The other meaning to the title was that MIB was really in the cabin just as he had been when Locke visited Christian/MIB to ask about the donkey wheel.<br> <br> Its my guess that the reason why the smoke monster was out and about when he was trapped in the cabin is I would guess that when Jacob trapped him there he placed some sort of thing that would allow MIB out for a short time to do whatever the current Others leader needed it to do, but then was somehow returned back to the cabin when done. <br> <br>I would guess that the switch in that puddle in Ben's basement is the thing that temporarily takes the leash off. like when it attacked the Mercs. He might have also figured out how to flip the switch himself. I would guess that we may get more rules about that in the MIB/Jacob episode. <br> <br> As for the sub my guess is that it was the only way of getting off the island until Ben had his men steal Desmond's boat. Richard used the sub on all of the Juliet visits and to record her sister at the park, Ben and a select few of his Others used the sub to gather info on the castaways. After the sub blew up he started using the boat. I would guess though that only a very select few knew about it so I would guess that along with all his other lies he docked the boat some where that only he knew about and thats what Tom used to visit Michael. <br> <br> As for the Flash Sideways They are a little confusing, but I think that was the intention. Darlton said back at Comic-Con that we would need to have faith about this season, but that things would make sense and that there was a reason for them. <br> <br> We're already starting to see that with Desmond somehow being a key to things and all that he's doing, but I think that its going to be like movies like "The Sixth Sense" where we're going to get an "I see dead people type of reveal and then watching this season again a lot more things will start to make more sense.?.?

  • May 3, 2010, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Yeah I want them to somehow work in Big Tom again also!

    by paburrows

  • May 3, 2010, 12:03 p.m. CST

    So how is Happy Town?

    by paburrows

    I didn't watch it so I was wondering how it was. I remember early last year watching a video of some paparatzi cornering MC Gainey at LAX asking him if he was coming back to Lost. I can't remember what he said, but he did tell them that he was at the time working on a new secret project that would be the next Lost. So I guess that he was refering to Happy Town

  • May 3, 2010, 12:06 p.m. CST


    by jay2517

  • May 3, 2010, 12:14 p.m. CST

    anyway...i only type the type certain phrases lol...

    by jay2517

    are u sure u "fans" dont read ur own posts every week? my posts are the same because u dimwits post the same "critiques" every week. now, PLEASE, go find another tb to fling ur shit in ok? btw...looks like cowardBOY, stepDAD and 2Legged (among others) were REALLY picked on in high school lol. guys, u graduated(?), its ok to move on and quit acting out on the net capice??

  • May 3, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    lol u never disappoint cowardBOY lol...

    by jay2517

    cant wait to get back home and read ur witty "comebacks" tonight lol...

  • May 3, 2010, 12:19 p.m. CST

    lol they already started...

    by jay2517

    im out! go fuck ur face cowardBOY... see how cool i am now!

  • May 3, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST

    So Mimsy

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Are you logging on when you should be out selling cars !!!<br /><br />Isn't that a bit OTT---haven't you got a life outside of Lost ?<br /><br />Bananas !!!!

  • May 3, 2010, 12:28 p.m. CST

    A big giveaway that its a Capuchin typing and not Jay/Mimsy

    by 2LeggedFreak

    He quite often talks about flinging shit-- a favorite monkey past-time.

  • May 3, 2010, 12:29 p.m. CST

    ...i just wanted to say...

    by yourSTEPDADDY


  • May 3, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST

    ...also jay learned his oral skills from a bananas

    by yourSTEPDADDY

  • May 3, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST

    ...whats the diff between a fluffer and a used car salesma?

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...nothin cuz they both suck...

  • May 3, 2010, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Calm Down Jay

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Calm Down !!!

  • May 3, 2010, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Phew I think he's calm now

    by 2LeggedFreak

    That got a bit hairy for minute didn't it ?<br /><br />Still alls well that ends well.<br /><br />ahem......<br />......<br />......<br /><br />BANANA !!!!!

  • May 3, 2010, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Childish I know but

    by 2LeggedFreak


  • May 3, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST


    by 2LeggedFreak

  • May 3, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Lol !!!

    by 2LeggedFreak

  • May 3, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST

    lol at the song... extra points for the music notes...

    by yourSTEPDADDY

  • May 3, 2010, 6:32 p.m. CST

    man, my ego is shot to hell now...

    by jay2517

    ive been "owned" yet again. u fat fucks have a good day in front of ur life...i mean computers? looks like uve been busy...

  • May 3, 2010, 8 p.m. CST, jay must be a super loser

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...who never heard of cell phones that can get online... i guess, he cant get online wit his used car salesman budget...<p>...but then again what would you expect from someone who is as unremarkable as his tb name...

  • May 3, 2010, 9:36 p.m. CST

    I want to know what happened to the cat.

    by Dingbatty

    The MIB's name should be Bocaj.

  • May 3, 2010, 10:44 p.m. CST

    LOL!! thats even WORSE!!! LOL!!!

    by jay2517

    u people go out of ur way to keep up with a AICN tb on ur cell?? man,IM the loser??? LMFAO!!! btw a auto wholesaler i sell to the retailers at the auctions dipshit. i work for myself dipshit. LOL...keeping up with a tb about a show u cant stand on a fucking CELL phone!! CLASSIC!!!

  • May 3, 2010, 10:47 p.m. CST

    oh yea...FUCK YOU STEPDAD!!!

    by jay2517

    LOL...cell phones!!!

  • May 4, 2010, 5:37 p.m. CST

    ...Jay i like the show

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...I just hate HATE how you ruined the lost tbs for me... before people could have logical discussions on such a beloved/hated show and it was fun... but by the 2nd episode, you ruined the fun here... and to call anyone a loser for visitin a site they love is stupid... are people losers for goin to ESPN.dom or whatever site that features what they love? cuz then, that would make you a hypocrite... I say you're a loser because of your lack of social skills regarding discussions, other peoples religions, faiths, beliefs, opinions, etc... like, you just seem like a worthless guy who only love in life is LOST and sellin USED cards... I get it, life sucks, it does for many people but dont get angry because everyone doesnt like how the koolaid tastes...

  • May 4, 2010, 5:38 p.m. CST the way, i wrote that while i was on the toilet

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...does that make me a loser cuz I know how to multi-task?

  • Jan. 16, 2012, 7:49 a.m. CST

    I can't believe this TB hasn't lasted this long

    by moorE12