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Mr. Beaks Takes A Trip Back To TOMBSTONE With Curly Bill Brocius Himself, Powers Boothe!

Of the two competing, fact-based retellings of the Wyatt Earp legend that were inexplicably greenlit in the early '90s, TOMBSTONE was, by far, the audience favorite. How could it not be? Though Lawrence Kasdan's WYATT EARP boasted a fine cast in its own right, it couldn't compete with the collection of badasses who chose to saddle up for writer-director Kevin Jarre (before he was given the heave-ho and replaced with Kurt Russell and/or George P. Cosmatos). There's Russell, Val Kilmer, Michael Biehn, Bill Paxton (ALIENS reunion!), Sam Elliott, Stephen Lang, Thomas Haden Church, Michael Rooker, Billy Bob Thornton and legends like Charlton Heston, Harry Carey, Jr., and Robert Mitchum (who would've played Old Man Clanton had he not fallen off his horse on the first day of filming). This is a man's movie. There are so many memorable performances in TOMBSTONE that it's impossible to pick a favorite, but, if pressed, I might just go with Powers Boothe as Curly Bill Brocius, the leader of the vicious Cowboys. Starting with his co-starring role in Walter Hill's underrated SOUTHERN COMFORT, Boothe has had a knack for finding his way into classic tough guy flicks like EXTREME PREJUDICE, RED DAWN and RAPID FIRE, while also carrying the more thoughtful THE EMERALD FOREST for John Boorman. In most of these movies, Boothe comes off as the rough, capable sort; the kind of guy you'd either love to have at your side in a firefight, or hate to take on as an adversary. And while he's played both hero and villain exceptionally well, it's impossible to say he does one better than the other. Boothe's got far too much going on behind the eyes to be pigeonholed like that. When I was given the opportunity to chat with Boothe to help promote today's (April 27th) release of TOMBSTONE on Blu-ray, I was elated. Then I realized I'd only have fifteen minutes with the man, which would scarcely leave us time to delve into his Walter Hill collaborations. Hell, judging from all of the stories that seem to keep surfacing regarding the tumultuous production of TOMBSTONE, fifteen minutes on just this film felt painfully brief. Mostly, we stuck to TOMBSTONE (a film Boothe is understandably proud to have been a part of), but later in the interview I did try to talk Walter Hill. Unfortunately, I waited too long, so don't expect any great insight on EXTREME PREJUDICE. This also means we never had a chance to discuss DEADWOOD, RAPID FIRE (in which he seemed to have a good time bantering with the late Brandon Lee), and how he enjoyed working on MACGRUBER. Good news: Nathan Rabin of The A.V. Club got a "Random Roles" piece out of this press day, so there is a definitive Powers Boothe interview on the way. I can't wait. For now, here's my fifteen minutes with the man who once shot down four Russian MiGs somewhere over the Rocky Mountains.

Mr. Beaks: Looking at this film again, the cast is so stacked. Even at the time, it felt like someone got in my head and cast all of my favorite actors in one movie - and a Wyatt Earp western at that! What was the dynamic like on set?

Powers Boothe: It was terrific. Like you, I was a huge fan of everyone in the cast. Just to digress for a moment, it was such a great script that, as I understand it, everyone pretty much cut their money to do it. All of the better folks in Hollywood were tripping over themselves trying to get in the film. Some of the guys I'd worked with before, but it was just a pleasure to be with everyone and work with them. It was truly an ensemble and team deal, and everybody, in my opinion, more than carried their weight.

Beaks: It's kind of a dream come true for many actors to be playing a part in the Wyatt Earp story.

Boothe: Yeah. I mean, I grew up in Texas and farms and ranches, and, for me, to do a western at all, particularly one as good as this, it doesn't get any better than that. (Laughs)

Beaks: I remember when this film was announced, it was talked up as if it was going to be rather epic. I believe the screenplay was much more extensive than what ended up on the screen.

Boothe: I think they actually cut ten or twelve minutes out of the final version, which, unfortunately, had a lot to do with The Cowboys and a lot of my stuff, but that's neither here nor there. The screenplay itself was extraordinary. Kevin Jarre wrote GLORY, and, at that period in time, was certainly one of the best writers around. The research he did, every character, right down to the color of horse you rode, your wardrobe and all of that stuff, was just [perfect]. And everybody who was in it had more than enough meat to play. Fortunately, for all of us, it ended up on the screen.

Beaks: Was there any competitiveness between you guys?

Boothe: I mean, to some degree. But on the other hand, the give and take was there; your character had his moment to step up to the plate. You had your home run opportunity, and sometime you'd go up there to hit a single. Nobody was in there trying to steal scenes. Everybody was in there trying to tell the story of that scene, and, ultimately, the story of Wyatt Earp. And one thing I'm really proud of that came through on screen is that the Earps didn't come to Tombstone to tame Tombstone, they came there to make money. (Laughs) And there was sort of a deal that was cut between the Earps and The Cowboys: we'll live and let live; you make your money, and we'll make our money. And then when they took Ike down, as they should've, that sort of broke the deal. Then one thing led to another, the morality play started, and just... You know, MY DARLING CLEMENTINE is one of my favorite movies, but this one was a little less romanticized - and therefore the story came through, and it took on its own romanticism.

Beaks: I think maybe the nice thing for you was that Curly Bill hadn't been as frequently dramatized as the other characters in the drama. The only Curly Bill portrayal I could fine previous to yours was in John Sturges's HOUR OF THE GUN, where he was played by Jon Voight.

Boothe: If he's ever in any of them, he's only in there briefly. Because everyone knows the Clantons and all that kind of stuff. But the truth of the matter is that Curly Bill truly was the leader of The Cowboys. He was like the boss. But he was also pretty smart in that he was the boss, but, for the most part, kept his distance from the actual doing of the deeds - so, therefore, I guess he's not as famous. But if you get into Curly Bill's spin... I read the testimony from his trial for killing Marshall White, and Marshall White testified, "Well, it's probably a little bit his fault that he reached for his gun and it kind of went off." Of course, Curly Bill got off from that, and then he went off and invented this Curly Bill spin where he flips the gun around and shoots him. We had a great gun man on that shoot; he taught me the real Curly Bill spin. And, I don't know... that just made it all better. (Laughs)

Beaks: Can you still pull off the Curly Bill spin?

Boothe: If I worked at it a little bit, I could. It's a little tricky, though. You've got to have your hands just right, and flip it it where your thumbs are just the right way - because you're shooting it upside down. If you don't do it right, it would look really stupid.

Beaks: I've read different accounts of how the director issue worked out. I know Kevin Jarre was on for a little bit, and then Kurt apparently filled in while the studio brought on George P. Cosmatos as a replacement. Do you remember how that all went down?

Boothe: I don't know that Kurt "filled in". I mean, Kurt was our leader. I love Kurt. He's a real all-American boy. He's been in the business all his life. But he's a team player all the way, and, in this case, he had to be. All I can recall is that, because we got behind a bit with Kevin, when George came in the first thing the producers did was rip out twenty to twenty-five pages of the script. And to Kurt's credit and Val's credit, they fought to put a lot of that stuff back in, even though a lot of it didn't have anything to do with their characters on the page. And it's because, in my opinion, that Kurt was smart enough to know that the writing was brilliant - and that if those scenes weren't there, it made his character and the story less. Realistically, we got almost everything back in the script - and I give Kurt, and certainly Val, and the producer Jim Jacks a lot of credit for fighting to keep this great script together and to shoot it. We shot the last week or so, as actors, for nothing because [the production] had run out of money. We all hung around and stayed to finish that movie. That doesn't happen very often.

Beaks: As you look back at all the films you made, does this one stand out as a particularly fulfilling experience?

Boothe: Oh, yeah. It really was. Look, when you walk on the set, and, first of all, you're walking on with that script to shoot. And then the quality of the actors... no pun intended, but you come with your guns loaded and ready to give it everything you got out of respect for the material and the other people. It was a gas. I mean, come on! I wore this red John Wayne shirt, and chaps and a gun belt that were handmade for me! It was just fabulous.

Beaks: It fits into your filmography quite well - particularly at the time. You had done these films that were studies in manhood. One film, and performance, of yours that I really love was EXTREME PREJUDICE with Walter Hill. Was this a particular type of film you were trying to make at the time?

Boothe: Oh, one thing leads to another. You're attracted to certain things. You read the script, and it either appeals to you or it doesn't. In Walter's case, he's a huge John Ford aficionado. Every movie Walter's ever made is a western - it's just that people don't know it. Thematically, men standing up for themselves and making their way in the world is a theme that's been in movies throughout the world. But it's particularly an American genre, and it has to do, in my mind, with the development of our nation: you can do anything you're strong enough to do; right is right, and wrong is wrong. And at least in the movies, right wins out.

Beaks: More often than not, yes. Have you talked with Walter about going back and making a film in that style?

Boothe: Well, Walter is one of my greatest friends and supporters in this business, and if Walter Hill called... anywhere, anytime, I'm there. He's a great gentleman and a terrific filmmaker. They don't make 'em like that anymore. I'd do anything for that man.

Beaks: I'd do anything to see you two making a movie together again.

Boothe: Me, too! One more thing with [TOMBSTONE], I can't tell you how many times I've been stopped by all kinds of folks, but mostly families and dads in particular, who say, "It's one of my favorite movies, and I watch it all the time with my kids." You don't get to make many like that. I'm very proud to have been a part of it.

Good man, and a damn fine actor. Thank you, Mr. Boothe. Faithfully submitted, Mr. Beaks

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  • April 27, 2010, 7:04 p.m. CST

    "I'm your Huckleberry"

    by vin_diggler

    Everytime I think of this movie, I think of this line spoke by Val Kilmer. I still don't know what it means, but it is the perfect line for that scene.

  • April 27, 2010, 7:06 p.m. CST

    If they made a Dark Knight Returns movie tomorrow...

    by Shermdawg

    You couldn't find a better actor for Bats.

  • April 27, 2010, 7:07 p.m. CST

    fine job, mr. beaks.

    by Destry

    ...and damn, is that a great movie. kasdan's "wyatt earp" is incredibly lugubrious, and frankly, not as accurate. (had a long chat with a man in tombstone, az that "re-enacts" doc holliday for a living, and he just reveres "tombstone.")

  • April 27, 2010, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Why do you kill everything that is beautiful?

    by raidahguy

  • April 27, 2010, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Powers Boothe should be in that Legends series...

    by Phimseto

    When I was a kid, I used to love watching Philip Marlowe on HBO. Ever since, it's been great watching him show up in different projects through the years. Standouts for me are obviously Tombstone, Deadwood (finding out he was on the show is what got me watching), and Extreme Prejudice. I'm still waiting for a DVD of that film that's worth buying.

  • April 27, 2010, 7:14 p.m. CST


    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

  • April 27, 2010, 7:15 p.m. CST

    "What's the capital of Texas?"

    by WerePlatypus

  • April 27, 2010, 7:15 p.m. CST

    You forgot Terry O'Quinn was in it. I just realized that

    by Coughlins Laws

    the last time I saw the movie...

  • April 27, 2010, 7:16 p.m. CST

    "We all hung around and stayed to finish that movie..."

    by Smilin'Jack Ruby

    "...That doesn't happen very often." Yeah, trying to think of one other time for a studio movie. That's awesome! Great interview, beaks!

  • April 27, 2010, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Now THAT was cool

    by Star Hump

    Great job Mr. Beaks. Powers Boothe is one America's very best actors. The guy's just brilliant. And I still can't get enough of Tombstone after all these years. It's everything you'd ever want in a movie.

  • April 27, 2010, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Blue-Ray IS NOT the longer director's cut

    by BoyNamedSue

    Unfortunately........because the director's cut enhanced the movie and made it soo much better.....still......this is my FAVORITE movie of all time....EVER!!!!

  • April 27, 2010, 7:23 p.m. CST

    coughlins...u sure???

    by CullenisPrime

    wasnt he in young guns not tombstone

  • April 27, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Is he coming back to 24?

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    i loved his character and he just kinda fucked off, i hope he turnes up in the remaining 5 eps, or shit maybe we'll see him in the movie?

  • April 27, 2010, 7:26 p.m. CST

    he was in young guns and tombstone

    by vin_diggler

  • April 27, 2010, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Time to watch Tombstone again. Great interview!

    by HapaPapa72

    Hell, Powers was the best part of Rapid Fire, too. By no means comparable to Tombstone, but great fun nonetheless.

  • April 27, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Wish you could've had him in the legends interviews.

    by alan_poon

    Him and George Kennedy I could listen to all day. real Hollywood men and not these faux hardmen we get these days.

  • April 27, 2010, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Fuck to the Yeah

    by thesinofthesky

    Powers Boothe and Walter Hill are both cinema gods in my book. Extreme Prejudice is so under rated and so many people have never seen it. It's a crying shame. Also- big props because it was filmed in my hometown of El Paso. Also- between 48 Hours and Extreme Prejudice, Walter Hill managed to pull out Nick Nolte's best performances.

  • April 27, 2010, 7:49 p.m. CST

    The director thing

    by Terry the geek

    A few years ago Kurt Russell said he explained to George Cosmatos how he wanted things shot every night. So he didn't really direct the movie on-set but he was integral in the direction the film took.

  • April 27, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Wyatt Earp > Tombstone

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Lawrence Kasdan > George P. Cosmatos <p> Dennis Quaid > Val Kilmer <p> "You all can kiss my rebel dick."

  • April 27, 2010, 8:10 p.m. CST


    by thesinofthesky

    I've always had respect for you, but in this case, you're wrong.

  • April 27, 2010, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Lt. Colonel Andre Tanner

    by TrainWreck1969

    "All that hate is gonna burn you up kid."

  • April 27, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Is this the most quotable movie of all time?

    by gooseud

    "Why, does this mean we aren't friends? Because if we werent friends, I dont think I could bear it". "Playing for blood, thats just my game". "Why Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just......walked over your grave!" "Skin it.....SKIN IT!! Pull that smokewagon and see what happens!!" Dude I'm getting a quarter chub just THINKING of the awesomeness that is Tombstone.

  • April 27, 2010, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Yesterday Stephen Lang had a webchat in the Empire Mag site

    by ominus

    i was there participating in the chat. someone asked him about what really happened with Tombstone's direction.Stephen said that after the studio fired the first director,Russel used his special relationship with Disney and persuaded the studio that the crew and cast were willing to continue and complete the filming of the film.<br /><P>The studio hired Cosmatos who was willing to continue the filming of the film in the middle of the production,since usally directors dont want to be hired only to complete half-completed films.<br /><p>Anyway Cosmatos took the job and he was the one who directed the film.All the direction,the camera work,everything was Cosmatos work,not Russell's.BUT Cosmatos listened to all the ideas he was getting from all the cast and ofc from Russel who was first among equals as Lang put it.<br /><p>So according to Lang, Cosmatos was the real director of the film not Russel as some insist.he did get and used a lot of input from the actors but the main body of work was done by him.

  • April 27, 2010, 8:32 p.m. CST


    by thesinofthesky

    "It's a nocturne" "A who?" "A nocturne- you know- Frederick fucking Chopin."

  • April 27, 2010, 8:34 p.m. CST

    No mention for Billy Bob Thornton

    by Ruddy Heck

    As the tubby loser Johnny Tyler? I love when Kurt slaps him around and then Doc Holliday gives him permission to leave his shotgun and bugger off. Classic.

  • April 27, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST

    vin-diggler about the Hucklberry line

    by ominus

    here is the explanation:<br /><p>from wiki: <br /><p><br />Huckleberries hold a place in archaic English slang. The tiny size of the berries led to their frequent use as a way of referring to something small, often in an affectionate way. The phrase "a huckleberry over my persimmon" was used to mean "a bit beyond my abilities". "I'm your huckleberry" is a way of saying that one is just the right person for a given job;[1] this saying was used by the character Doc Holliday in the movie Tombstone. The range of slang meanings of huckleberry in the 19th century was fairly large, also referring to insignificant persons or nice persons.<br /><br /><p>Simply put 'I am your Huckleberry' means 'I am your man for your job'

  • April 27, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST


    by Stuntcock Mike


  • April 27, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST


    by film11

    Still have it on laserdisc. Time to give it another spin! Forgot he was in it. Boothe also had a good turn in Bill Paxton's FRAILTY.

  • April 27, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Too bad...

    by knuckleodeon

    I know it was a Tombstone piece, but I would've loved to hear Mr. Boothe's thoughts on playing Cy Tolliver on Deadwood, he was freaking brilliant!

  • April 27, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST

    This movie is hardly an authentic depiction of the old west

    by Orionsangels

    But damn is it entertaining!

  • April 27, 2010, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Fuckin' Cy Tolliver

    by Al Swearengen

    I remember when that cocksucker moved into fuckin' Deadwood. He opened the Bella Union...tried to upstage my joint. Aside from his various entanglements with fuckin' Hearst, he never did seem to get a grasp on the bigger fuckin' picture.

  • April 27, 2010, 8:59 p.m. CST

    PB also played Jim Jones

    by BoyNamedSue

    He played religious NUTJOB Jim Jones in a four-hour TV movie 30 years ago and was AMAZING if you ever get a chance to see it........I was so disappointed that the 24 writers didn't take advantage of having this extremely gifted actor on their show........He was only on for one season, and a LAME season at that! The 24 people would have been wise to keep him longer, IMHO!

  • April 27, 2010, 9:11 p.m. CST


    by knuckleodeon

  • April 27, 2010, 9:12 p.m. CST


    by knuckleodeon

    You need some better advice from indian chief!

  • April 27, 2010, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Fuckin' knuckleodeon

    by Al Swearengen

    On occassion, I do fuckin' consult with the Chief. And I do admit...he has advised wisely on many a fuckin' thing. Considerin' his present fuckin' condition, it's pretty fuckin' remarkable for a dirt worshippin' heathen.

  • April 27, 2010, 9:28 p.m. CST

    oh have you seen the mini tvseries with Booth as Malone?

    by ominus

    he was great there

  • April 27, 2010, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Grodd > President Daniels

    by magnetoelectric

  • April 27, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST

    My Favorite Movie of All Time

    by Unlabled

    This movie has captivated me from the 1st time I watched it. I must have seen this film 150+ times now. Awesome interview.

  • April 27, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST

    "You called down the thunder. Well, you got it!"

    by BooBoosDaddy

    "Run, you cur. And tell all the other curs. You tell 'em the law's comin.' You tell 'em I'M comin'. And hell's comin' with me, you hear? HELL'S COMIN' WITH ME!!" (cue the bad ass thunder) Fuck, I love this movie.

  • April 27, 2010, 9:52 p.m. CST

    You know, the Earps made a stop Deadwood.

    by Al Swearengen

    Can't say they got too acquainted with the fuckin' place. Had words with Sheriff Bullock and high-tailed it outta fuckin' town like that cocksucker, McCall. Reckon I can't fuckin' blame em'...when it comes to Bullock...he can be an insane fuckin' person.

  • April 27, 2010, 9:56 p.m. CST

    My favorite Curly line is just one word . . .

    by Nice Marmot


  • April 27, 2010, 10:03 p.m. CST

    b vb



  • April 27, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Tolliver > Roark

    by slayme

    but just barely. Damn this dude has had some killer roles.

  • April 27, 2010, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Wyatt Earp > Tombstone

    by SmokingRobot

    Tombstone is fun, but Wyatt Earp is an American 'Lawrence of Arabia'. It is EPIC. And historically VERY accurate, right down to the dialog. Read Josies autobiography for the details.

  • April 27, 2010, 10:23 p.m. CST

    SmokingRobot = wrong

    by slayme

    i disagree - Tombstone is by far the better movie.

  • April 27, 2010, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Law don't come round here LAWDOG!!!

    by Vulcan_CSC_Rep

    That's what Michael Bandy, premier landscape photographer said to the man!!! Go to

  • April 27, 2010, 10:47 p.m. CST

    I still got one good arm to masturbate with (and hold you)

    by Vulcan_CSC_Rep

  • April 27, 2010, 10:48 p.m. CST

    I still got one good arm to masturbate with (and hold you)

    by Vulcan_CSC_Rep

  • April 27, 2010, 10:50 p.m. CST

    You smell that Billy?

    by slugbat

    Smells like somebody died.

  • April 27, 2010, 10:54 p.m. CST

    The greatest wildcard in this movie

    by slugbat

    Michael Biehn. I've seen him really SINK some flicks by being such a ham. He's just not a great actor. But he really came to play as Johnny Ringo, really held his own and fleshed out a solid character. He was like the white guy on those Jordan teams in the late 90s. Hit a few 3s late to help carry along the big guns.

  • April 27, 2010, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Not to start a flamewar

    by slugbat

    Personal opinion, but re-watching Terminator One, I thought he was quite sub-par in that.

  • April 27, 2010, 11 p.m. CST

    In the Uncut version do we see what happens in the church?

    by Vulcan_CSC_Rep

  • April 27, 2010, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Tombstone Facts

    by ADDr

    I was an assistant director on the film. To set the record straight: 1. Mitchum never made it down to Tuscon AZ where the film was shot. So he never fell off a horse on set. He hurt his back (maybe, indeed, from his own private horse riding) and called down to the production office two weeks before start of principal photography with his regrets. His agent then tried to push Telly Savalis. The character was eventually just written out. 2. Kurt held the movie together by keeping the cast on board. While he consulted heavily with Cosmatos on tone and mise-en-scene, Cosmatos chose the shots along with legendary DP Bill Fraker. Cosmatos directed the film from Jarre's great script. 3. The cast were all real troopers on the shoot. Lang = great guy; O'Quinn = friendly and on point. Thornton = a real character. Only Kilmer was troublesome, though not more so than any "methody" type actor who tries to remain in character 24/7. 4. The Kasdan production deliberately rented whole collections of western costumes and also put down payments on many western locations/sets in an attempt to make our competing production have difficulty completing the shoot. Obviously, they failed, as Tombstone came out first and outgrossed the other. 5. Powers Booth is a classy guy whom I was also around on two other pictures. He was always genuine and prepared.

  • April 27, 2010, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Love this movie

    by liljuniorbrown

    Tombstone is one of my all time favorites. The Costner version wanted to be more of an epic but came across as boring in spots.

  • April 27, 2010, 11:35 p.m. CST


    by redkamel

    It means "I'm your man" but in a modest way.

  • April 27, 2010, 11:38 p.m. CST

    by redkamel

    "But Doc, why are you here?"<p> "Wyatt is my friend."<p> "Hell, I got lots of friends!"<p> "I don't"<p> <p> love that line

  • April 28, 2010, 12:35 a.m. CST

    "We'll cut your goddamn pimp's heart out, you PIMP!"

    by caruso_stalker217

    Stephen Lang was great in this. Such a little fuckin' cowardly prick.

  • April 28, 2010, 12:43 a.m. CST


    by one9deuce

    What a great movie. I've read the script and it is brilliant, and the performances elevate the script to an even higher level. If you don't get chills when Doc Holliday comes out of the shadows and says "I'm your Huckleberry" to Johnny Ringo........... then you must dead.

  • April 28, 2010, 12:56 a.m. CST

    Well... bye, then.

    by JumpinJehosaphat

  • April 28, 2010, 12:56 a.m. CST


    by MaxTheSilent

    The man is simply amazing in EXTREME PREJUDICE and SOUTHERN COMFORT. Not to mention DEADWOOD.

  • April 28, 2010, 1 a.m. CST

    Michael Biehn as Ringo

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    was fucking badass in this. The Latin-off with Kilmer was sublime.

  • April 28, 2010, 1:23 a.m. CST

    "Looks like we win" = my favorite quote

    by SlimButNotreally

    I use that in any call of duty game im playing if we're about to win the game. its my favorite line from the movie, AND it's from Curly Bill!

  • April 28, 2010, 1:24 a.m. CST

    Tombstone is the greatest western, ever.

    by SlimButNotreally

    Sorry Unforgiven fans....and I am one of you, but Tombstone is the greatest western. It just kicks so much ass....tough to top it.

  • April 28, 2010, 2 a.m. CST

    Can't we like BOTH Movies?

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I mean: who REALLY looks like a guy dying from tuberculosis? Val Kilmer made up to look sweaty and pasty faced or the skeletal Dennis Quaid losing so much weight that there were rumors going around that he had AIDS?

  • April 28, 2010, 2:09 a.m. CST

    I pooped a hammer.

    by gruemanlives

  • April 28, 2010, 2:35 a.m. CST

    SOUTHERN COMFORT - that's the one

    by palimpsest

    Powers always gives good value though; one of the reasons I love SUDDEN DEATH so much is his turn in that flick. Also, FRAILTY, DEADWOOD, EXTREME PREJUDICE, EMERALD FOREST. And the entrance he gets in U-TURN is just classic.

  • April 28, 2010, 2:52 a.m. CST


    by Mullah Omar

    TOMBSTONE definitely qualifies as a prime exhibit. Powers Boothe gets credit for increasing the bad-assery quotient. <br> <br> I can think of few films with as many iconic lines - and not just on paper, but in practice. I agree that the actors really seemed to bring it for this one. Historical accuracy be damned, this is some fine cinema and earned a spot at the table when considering the most entertaining Westerns of all time.

  • April 28, 2010, 2:59 a.m. CST

    Powers Boothe was a great Philip Marlowe

    by AsimovLives

    You should try to check out the 80s Philip Marlowe TV series staring Powers Boothe. He was great, as good as Humphrey Bogard. Yes, he was that good. And closer to the physical description that Raymond Chandler gave about his creation.

  • April 28, 2010, 3 a.m. CST

    Southern Comfort, damn good movie...

    by AsimovLives

    ... and damn good drink too.

  • April 28, 2010, 3:01 a.m. CST

    The guy has presence...

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    you know when Boothe is in the house.

  • April 28, 2010, 3:08 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    Better westerns than Tombstone: <p> My Darling Clementine <p> The Searchers <p> The Wild Bunch <p> Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid <p> A Fistful of Dollars <p> For A Few Dollars More <p> The Good, The Bad and the Ugly <p> Once Upon A Time in the West <p> High Plains Drifter <p> Pale Rider <p> Dances With Wolves <p> Unforgiven <p> Wyatt Earp <p> Open Range <p> The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford

  • April 28, 2010, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Best excuse for being a badass is in this movie...

    by Gods_Uncle_Bob

    "A man like Ringo has a great empty hole right through the middle of him. He can never kill enough or steal enough or inflict enough pain to ever fill it." "What does he need?" "Revenge." "For what?" "Being born." Now, that's just awesome.

  • April 28, 2010, 3:10 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    Spot on. Great photography by Owen Roizman and score by James Newton Howard.

  • April 28, 2010, 4:09 a.m. CST

    He was awesome in 24

    by Drsambeckett1984

    Far better than Taylor, the worst President in the shows history.

  • April 28, 2010, 5:22 a.m. CST

    Love the theatre scene

    by savagedave

    "You know what I'd do? I'd take that deal 'n' crawfish, then drill that ol' Devil in the ass."

  • April 28, 2010, 5:22 a.m. CST

    Apparantly, the Latin in Tombstone

    by WerePlatypus

    is gibberish. You never know what they say to each other. Which is cool.

  • April 28, 2010, 5:35 a.m. CST

    More Powers Boothe based awesomness

    by savagedave

    With added Michael Ironside!<p><p>remove spaces and all that jazz.

  • April 28, 2010, 6:02 a.m. CST

    I Studied Latin for almost 10 years.

    by Knackster

    The Latin was not Gibberish at all. Remember how Wyatt Tries to excuse Doc by saying "He's Drunk" Doc says under his Breath "In Vino Veritas." In Wine there is truth. Meaning he knew Exactly what he was saying and He ment every word of it.

  • April 28, 2010, 6:20 a.m. CST

    Wyatt Earp vs. Tombstone

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    Tombstone is the crack cocaine of historical epics. It's about as historically accurate as Young Guns, which is to say....not at all. <br> <br> Wyatt Earp is a slow burn; a powerful movie that takes its time and doesn't pander to our pathetically short attention spans like Tombstone does. Tombstone is just an action movie disguising itself as a true story. <br> <br> However, Tombstone is the one you keep coming back to over and over and over and over again. It is the most quotable movie ever and probably the most quoted movie ever with the exception of maybe Lebowski. <br> <br> Dennis Quaid is my guy and a great actor but Val Kilmer just takes the role of Doc and chews it up like very few actors have ever chewed up a role in the history of film. He's so beyond fucking perfect...just absolutely incredible and this is one of the biggest Oscar fuck-ups of all time; maybe due in part to Kilmer being a massive and royal pain in the ass that has burned just about every bridge he's ever crossed. <br> <br> Both movies show Earp to be a little more heroic and moral than he really was at that time in his life, but both movies needed the ultimate protagonist so I understand that. Tombstone does do a little bit better of a job in portraying him as more of an anti-hero than hero. <br> <br> Throw away truth and subscribe to the Liberty Valance rule of "print the legend" and Tombstone is the better one. It's just so goddamn fun and watchable. However, I never liked the way out of left field storyline of Johnny Ringo who was shoehorned into Tombstone because you've got Michael Biehn so Ringo has to be the ultimate bad-ass. His story as written in Tombstone is just so far from the truth that it takes me out of the movie somewhat. Also, you've got Stephen Fucking Lang playing Ike Fucking Clanton and you write him as a coward? I never got that, Ike Clanton was a bad-ass in reality and you've got one of the all time great bad-asses to play him, and you yellow him up for a little comic relief? <br> <br> It's so easy to dismiss Wyatt Earp when it stands in Tombstone's shadow, but it is a great movie that gets a lot of the real story correct and tells so much more of the tale. I guess Tombstone is called Tobstone because it just deals with that short time span and Wyatt Earp is called Wyatt Earp because it's his biography. Kevin Costner could have killed the role much better than Kurt Russell did, unfortunately he played it during the period of his career in which he saw himself as the benchmark for heroism. Costner seems to have come to terms with his own sense of humor in the last 10-15 years and his career is so much better for it. Roles like Tin Cup and the Upside of Anger are where he's at his best. Costner plays a good piece of shit and he should have channeled that a little bit more in Wyatt Earp. <br> <br> Altogether, these are two great movies and so much better than Gunfight at the O.K. Corral and My darling Clementine. (Yeah, I know it's John Ford and he's a god, but Clementine is an overrated mess.) Why can't these two movies just get along? Why do they have to be Metallica vs. Megadeth? They are two completely different films dealing with the same subject, one played up for laughs and action, the other a detailed epic. Can't we all just get along? <br> <br> Also, my favorite line is one of the least quoted in the film and Kilmer delivers it with just enough emotion in his voice and on his face that his soul seems to open up for a second and you see the pain behind all that bravado and silliness. It;s only two words. <br> <br> "Wyatt Earp is my friend." <br> <br> "Hell, I got lots of friends." <br> <br> "I don't."

  • April 28, 2010, 6:29 a.m. CST

    the latin quotes are on IMDB with translations

    by savagedave

  • April 28, 2010, 6:33 a.m. CST


    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    I agree with you on <br> <br> The Searchers. Fuck westerns, that's top ten material in any genre. <br> <br> Unforgiven <br> <br> Once Upon a Time In The West <br> <br> The Wild Bunch <br> <br> Good, Bad, and the Ugly <br> <br> Open Range <br> <br> Fistful Of Dollars. Have you forgotten Josy Wales, IMO, the best Eastwood western other than Unforgiven. Might have to throw some more John Wayne in there Katie Elder maybe, Rio Bravo etc. Also, have you forgotten Kurosawa? I love Leone and the spaghetti but the movie that Dollars was based on owns the remake. A lot of these movies are better than Tombstone, but Tombstone is just more goddamn FUN than any of them. However, I'd give John Wayne the best line of any western ever: "Anyone crosses that river before I;m out of sight...baptize 'em. LOL! Love it!

  • April 28, 2010, 6:37 a.m. CST

    The Latin

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    Yeah, all the Latin in Tombstone is legit. Took years of Latin in high school and college. Still can;t speak it, but I can understand it. <br> <br> Besides, the Latin exchange between Holliday and Ringo was written into the movie to show that they were equal adversaries in every way, even education. it would be kind of stupid to translate what they were saying into gibberish. It would just make no sense. When anyone can easily look up the phrases to get them right, why have them say gibberish that anyone watching the movie who speaks Latin would label them morons? <br> <br> the whole point was to give an example of their intelligence

  • April 28, 2010, 6:39 a.m. CST


    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    "When anyone can easily look up the phrases to get them right, why have them say gibberish that anyone watching the movie who speaks Latin would label them morons?" <br> <br> <br> <br> I can't believe I wrote that. Am i turning into Harry?

  • April 28, 2010, 6:40 a.m. CST


    by DeNiro4Prez

    You're right, the entire cast was great, but one performance was legendary--Val Kilmer's Holliday. And to think he wasn't even NOMINATED for an oscar for best supporting actor!? Wasn't even NOMINATED!? Say what you want about Kilmer, but he turned in two of the best performances of the nineties with 'The Doors' and 'Tombstone'... and wasn't fucking nominated for either!!!

  • April 28, 2010, 6:45 a.m. CST

    Powers Boothe is awesome.

    by Stegman84

    Southern Comfort, Tombstone, Extreme Prejudice, Deadwood, Frailty, Red Dawn, 24, A Breed Apart, Nixon, U-Turn, even lesser (but still enjoyable) efforts like Sudden Death and Rapid Fire...I mean that's a hell of a "man's man" type filmography right there. One of the last of hollywood's true tough guy generation of actors, you know the kind, the guys who could both actually act (and damn well at that) while also effortlessly echoing genuine tough guy machismo and screen charisma. Modern cinema needs more Powers Boothe. And more Walter Hill too, while we're on the subject.

  • April 28, 2010, 6:46 a.m. CST


    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    His Jim Morrison was even more impressive than his Doc. That son-of-a-bitch BECAME Jim Morrison. Every mannerism, every facial tic. You watch old footage of Morrison uo against Kilmer and the only reason you can tell them apart is because they look slightly different in the last year of Morrison's life. Early on, the could have been twins and as far as acting like's just spooky how good he was. He obviously has a little bit of Morrison's demons too just judging by the way he self-destructed his movie career. Brando did the same thing, he waited until he was a legend and an icon first though. Kilmer should have played nice a few more years and then gone over the top. Then it wouldn't be tragic, it would be legendary.

  • April 28, 2010, 6:47 a.m. CST

    Most Quotable Movie?

    by Aquatarkusman

    C'mon, people, it's Miller's Crossing. And let's not forget the women of Tombstone! Dana Delany, Joanna Pacula, and a young, young Paula Malcolmson (later famous in Deadwood).

  • April 28, 2010, 6:48 a.m. CST

    Walter Hill

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    Just watched Streets of Fire the other day. Just every form of bad-ass imaginable. So cheesy like nachos and just as tasty

  • April 28, 2010, 6:50 a.m. CST


    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    The women of Tombstone is the movie's only downfall. Couldn;t stand Dana D. in it and I was jealous of Mrs. Wyatt's easy access to good opium.

  • April 28, 2010, 6:52 a.m. CST

    Tombstone gave real men back their balls

    by HarryBlackPotter

    And very hairy they were too. Oh, and I don't buy this 'Kurt' just 'helped' out. He directed over 50% of this badass movie.

  • April 28, 2010, 7:02 a.m. CST

    Most Awesome Film Family in History?

    by Darth Busey

    Kurt Russell, Sam Elliott, and Bill Paxton. Even Brando/Pacino/Caan/Cazale can't compare with this shit.

  • April 28, 2010, 7:04 a.m. CST

    Stephan Lang is talking Tombstone Blu Ray too

    by HarryBlackPotter

    He says Cosmatos was the director - but the guy didn't know anything about the period and was thrown right into it, so Kurt was there to 'help' him out.

  • April 28, 2010, 7:05 a.m. CST

    "Maybe poker's just not your game Ike."

    by Darth Busey

    "I know! Let's have a spelling contest!"

  • April 28, 2010, 7:05 a.m. CST

    Well I'll be damned...

    by just pillow talk

    You might, if you're lucky.

  • April 28, 2010, 7:08 a.m. CST

    It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds..

    by just pillow talk

  • April 28, 2010, 7:08 a.m. CST

    Frederic fucking Chopin

    by just pillow talk

    I love that line.

  • April 28, 2010, 7:11 a.m. CST

    Kurt directed?

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    I've never heard this before. What's the story, was it that Cosmatos was completely incompetent and Kurt just took over behind the scenes? These things have happened before; everyone knows that Tobe Hooper was so high on Poltergeist that Spielberg directed the entire movie. I've never heard anything like this about Tombstone before though. Funny, you would think that anything Kurt Russell directed would be heavily influenced by Carpenter, no intentional, just naturally. I don;t get a Carpenter vibe from Tombstone but it does really have Russell's personality all over it come to thin of it. <nr> <br> Interesting

  • April 28, 2010, 7:13 a.m. CST

    I would like to know the real scoop

    by DangerDave

    About how much Russell really did on the film. <P> The conflicting reports really make we wonder....

  • April 28, 2010, 7:14 a.m. CST

    Love Tombstone

    by NightArrows

    Tombstone is such a fantastic movie. It's full of testosterone, and is imminently quotable. Kilmer is amazing as Doc, and he and Russell had such a great on-screen chemistry, you believed in their friendship. Wyatt Earp, is also a phenomenal movie, for different reasons. Costner carried that film. He WAS Earp, and makes a truly great cowboy. Quaid was also great, but gets edged out by Kilmer ever so slightly. I love both but if I had to choose one Western, my vote goes to Open Range. I can't put ANY John Wayne Westerns into the mix, ugh. No love for them at all.

  • April 28, 2010, 7:14 a.m. CST

    and dancetothebeat nailed it...

    by just pillow talk

    You bet there are "better" westerns than Tombstone, but fuck, none are has fucking fun. The characters are all fucking awesome. Paxton copying Sam when he spits while watching Wyatt head over to the Saloon. <p>"You gonna just stand there and bleed?"<p>Like when someone asks Curly if he would make a deal with the devil, he says he'd shoot him in the ass. <p>His response to seeing Wyatt waltzing in the open across the river firing away...<p>Love this fucking movie.

  • April 28, 2010, 7:23 a.m. CST

    No one has mentioned one of the best Doc lines

    by gooseud

    Wyatt: "Doc, you might want to sit this one out, this aint your fight" (Doc gets steely look on his face): "Well, Sir, that is a HELL of a thing for you to say to ME!!" (walks over and stands beside Virgil, shotgun in hand).

  • April 28, 2010, 7:30 a.m. CST

    powers is the man, as is walter hill

    by Waka_Flocka

  • April 28, 2010, 7:31 a.m. CST


    by Erbot

    I'm sure it was an accident, but you left Frank Stallone off your list of bad asses.

  • April 28, 2010, 7:37 a.m. CST

    you just got the real scoop of the AD

    by Waka_Flocka

    you fucking mongoloid

  • April 28, 2010, 7:37 a.m. CST

    scoop of ice cream

    by Waka_Flocka


  • April 28, 2010, 7:39 a.m. CST

    "Your friends might get me in a rush......."

    by gooseud

    "But not before I turn your head into a canoe".

  • April 28, 2010, 7:59 a.m. CST

    HarryBlackPotter correct.Cosmatos didnt know anything

    by ominus

    about that period of history,so Kurt and the cast helped him a lot with that.

  • April 28, 2010, 8 a.m. CST

    Loved you as Gorilla Grodd, Mr. Boothe.

    by Kevin Holsinger

    Shame about you getting shot out of that airlock.

  • April 28, 2010, 8:09 a.m. CST

    TOMBSTONE script by Kevin Jarre...

    by AsimovLives

    ... that is a hell of a good script trying to escape from an average looking movie. All the strenghs in TOMBSTONE are found in the script, which inspired some good acting fireworks from the actors. Of which, Kilmer's Doc Holliday is the most visible.<br><br>My Kilmer's favorite scene in the movie is his death scene, actually. He's in ed in the sanitarium, and he looks at his feet and laughs. It's as if his all life had just been reduced to his feet, and he finds it amusing. Not a man to go down bitching.<br<<br>But sincerely, Denis Quaid's Doc Holliday is the best portait of the character. He was helped with a better script which actually went to the trouble of finding the man behind the legend. And Quaid acted the shit out of the role. And Quaid, truth be told, showed more dedication to the role, to the point he's a true walking skelleton. Kilmer didn't went that far. I understand the love for kilemr's Doc hollida,y but frankly, Quaid did the better job, with more acting and heart then pyrotechniques.

  • April 28, 2010, 8:18 a.m. CST

    Wyatt Earp may have told a better story but

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Tombstone was by far more badass. It was so stacked with quality actors that Earp didn't have a chance.

  • April 28, 2010, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Why Johnny Ringo

    by templar

    It looks like someone walked right all over your grave. best western ever

  • April 28, 2010, 8:25 a.m. CST

    You tell em I'm coming for em and

    by templar

    Hells coming with me.HELLS COMING WITH ME

  • April 28, 2010, 8:27 a.m. CST

    But i think quaid was a better Doc Holliday in WYATT EARP

    by AsimovLives

    In WYATT EARP they went for the man behind the legend, and they suceed. And quiad plays him to the nines. his deduication was so great, he became a walking skelleton. Kilmer's Doc Holliday might have the more pyrotechnics, but Quaid gave the most soulful performance. Quaid played the man, not the legend. and if you have to chose between the legend and the truth, your movie is better if you go for the truth. For any hack can play the legend.

  • April 28, 2010, 8:30 a.m. CST


    by DangerDave

    you army........<P> pukes.

  • April 28, 2010, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Cosmato didn't knew the period, hem?

    by AsimovLives

    Well, it's telling, from watching the movie. Was the man too bored to even bother to do some research or something? I mean, when a filmmaker knows shit about the subject, which means had had no previous interest, then why the fuck he even accepted?

  • April 28, 2010, 8:34 a.m. CST


    by DangerDave

    you got it wrong. <P> "I'll be damned" were his last words. This comes from the old cowboy moto...."he died with his boots on" <P> In many ways Holiday, was a man with a death wish. He wanted to die in a blaze of glory with his boots on and not pissing the last of his life away in bed.

  • April 28, 2010, 8:42 a.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    Actually, the reason he muttered that line at his death is that he died in bed with his boots off, versus how he, and I'm sure everyone who knew him well, thought he would go out.

  • April 28, 2010, 8:43 a.m. CST

    DangerDave beat me to the punch...

    by NightArrows

    Damn work interruptions...

  • April 28, 2010, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Tombstone v. Wyatt Earp

    by DeNiro4Prez

    This one is like comparing 'First Blood' to 'Missing In Action' for fucks sake! In other words, no comparison at all. 'Tombstone' was not only one of the best films of the nineties--due in large part to Val Kilmer's fucking ICONIC turn as Doc Holliday, but one of the very best westerns ever made as well. Hell, I'd be tempted to place 'Tombstone' ahead of 'Unforgiven' just for the simple fact that it's far more entertaining to watch. And for all you naysayers out there, you know damn well that if Eastwood's name was on the directed by instead of Cosmatos, you'd all be declaring 'Tombstone' a masterpiece! By contrast, 'Wyatt Earp' was a bloated mess of a film... a fucking bloated, unwatchable, MESS! And insofar as Quaid is concerned, decent turn as Holliday, but the performance was almost painful to watch following Kilmer's masterful one. Nuff' said.

  • April 28, 2010, 8:53 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives Cosmatos was hired in the middle of the

    by ominus

    filming after the studio had fired the writer/director of the film.He didnt have time to do a research and preparation for the film's historical atmosphere and feeling,so he had to rely on the help of Kurt and the rest of the cast who were already working underpaid but wanted to finish the flick.<br />and Cosmatos is a good director,have you watched Cassandra's Passing? its a very good thriller with a shocking finale.

  • April 28, 2010, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Cosmatos - Period

    by ADDr

    Cosmatos was chosen to come on board as director because he was a friend of the producers, and had made the very successful "Rambo: First Blood Part 2" for them a few years prior, but who was not getting much work due to his notorious temper. So, he was available to come down the same day he got the phone call. He was not an expert in the period (not being American born) but he actually helped the production design a bit. The Oriental Saloon was only half the size originally (and accurately). He knocked out a wall and made it this grand saloon with a double sided bar. Little details like this helped the visuals, though he was largely stuck with what he had. So, to put a fine point on it -- he accepted because it was a big movie that needed help and he needed a job. The dailies from Jarre had been uninspiring. Three camera setups would have two cameras on horses but only one on Kurt Russell. Big mistake. Also, the action was anemic. Costmatos arrived and re-blocked the entire fight in the river bed, planning big sweeping crane shots to show off in the dailies room and make everyone feel confident they chose the right man. (Let it be known, however, that the film was really masterminded, in the end, by the editor, Frank Urioste [and a producer who was a former editor], who took many half-shot sequences which were abandoned from the Jarre-era and assembled them into action montage. This is why, when you watch the film, there is a lot of montage when the fighting begins... they were trying to make sequences work. There were two entire action sequences abandoned, but you can see bits of them in montage.) Cosmatos came in and made the Western he saw in his mind's eye, the one he imagined as a kid growing up watching Westerns. But it took an enormous effort on everyone's part (crew, producers, cast) to help round out the show. True to form, however, he managed to fire or make quit 100 people after he came on board. Sadly, Cosmatos died a few years back after going blind from a surgical side effect. He was, in many ways, the kind of bastard that Curly Bill would have loved. But no one deserves to go out that way. He had a quote that was as memorable as any uttered by the actors in the film. When a departing crew member went up to shake his hand and depart, Cosmatos told him: "It's not your fault, it's just your time."

  • April 28, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Pissed off Earp with a shotgun. "NOOOOO. NOOOOO!"

    by Stuntcock Mike

    If that scene doesn't give you at least a semi, you've got problems.

  • April 28, 2010, 9:27 a.m. CST

    heh he was Greek all right

    by ominus

  • April 28, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    You're right. Good observation there, friend. Well played. You too, NightArrows. Good job, fellas.

  • April 28, 2010, 9:34 a.m. CST

    One of the best scenes ever...

    by NightArrows

    That scene between Earp and Doc in the tender as macho can be.

  • April 28, 2010, 9:34 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    I used to like CASSANDRA'S CROSSING... until i rewatched it. Now, not anymore. And for fuck's sake, he directed RAMBO II, one of the most horrible piece of shit movie ever made.

  • April 28, 2010, 9:37 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    ecause cosmatos was greek is not enough excuse. Many of the greatest westerns were made by non-american, by foreigners. In fact, some of the most accurate westerns who depict a very accurate portait of the old west were made by foreigners, like the italians. him being greek is no excuse. Unless the old west for Cosmatos was all greek for him (pun intended).

  • April 28, 2010, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Love Tombstone, Love Powers Boothe

    by honavery

    One of my favorite movies ever. So many quotable lines. GREAT Bruce Broughton score. Have seen it many, many times, and we'll continue to watch it regularly. The only weakness of this film is the love story...which is quite frankly awful, but I've come to love it in it's own way for being so bad. "And then we'll have room service!"

  • April 28, 2010, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Kilmer fans...

    by kells

    If you haven't seen "Spartan" or "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang" you need to. Right now. Quick. Before the depressing realization that he has been reduced to playing characters named "Dieter von Cunth" in the upcoming MacGruber movie sets in.

  • April 28, 2010, 9:57 a.m. CST

    kells dont forget that he did the voice of KITT

    by ominus

    now thats fucking pathetic.

  • April 28, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Kurt not getting directing credit

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Kurt could not be the credited director if the stories are true due to DGA rules. This goes back to a DGA rule established back when Clint Eastwood got original director Phillip Kaufman canned from The Outlaw Josey Wales after a few weeks of principle photography and took over as director. Kaufman complained to the DGA and a new rule was established that if a director was replaced on a film, he could not be replaced by one of the actors acting in said film.

  • April 28, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    actually Asi Cosmatos was born and raised in Paris

    by ominus

    if i am not mistaken and its where he did his film studies.and the spaghetti with the exception of Leone's and some other few,were the definition of bad cinema,regardless of how historically faithful they were. <br /><p>and Rambo 2,well it is great for what it is: a good popcorn comic-book action flick for big boys to enjoy.for its time it was something refreshing,it created a whole new action sub-genre and it was a perfect product of its era.and then there are some who claim that it was Sly who directed it,not Cosmatos.anyway.

  • April 28, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    actually Asi Cosmatos was born and raised in Paris

    by ominus

    if i am not mistaken and its where he did his film studies.and the spaghetti with the exception of Leone's and some other few,were the definition of bad cinema,regardless of how historically faithful they were. <br /><p>and Rambo 2,well it is great for what it is: a good popcorn comic-book action flick for big boys to enjoy.for its time it was something refreshing,it created a whole new action sub-genre and it was a perfect product of its era.and then there are some who claim that it was Sly who directed it,not Cosmatos.anyway.

  • April 28, 2010, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Samuel Fulmer wait. didnt the same thing happen with

    by ominus

    Waterworld and Costner? he replaced the original director and he got the credit of the film's director.wasnt the DGA rule active then?

  • April 28, 2010, 10:11 a.m. CST

    kells is right, SPARTAN is great

    by AsimovLives

    SPARTAN is what a smart, intelligent action movie looks like made by filmmakers and actors who care. Rock on, man!

  • April 28, 2010, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Kevin Reynolds is the credited director

    by Samuel Fulmer

    of Waterworld. Did Kevin Costner direct a lot of it, I don't know (I didn't follow the press on that one), but if he did, that's why it's still Kevin Reynolds. Who knows with the Tombstone thing. If Kurt did direct, maybe it was in a co-director capacity, which until recent years, was a big DGA no no. That's why the Coens didn't recieve co-directing credits until recent years.

  • April 28, 2010, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Or the Tobe Hooper/Spielberg co-directing

    by Samuel Fulmer

    That seems likely to have happened based on what Zelda Rubenstein said before her passing.

  • April 28, 2010, 10:23 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    historical accuracy is one of the foundations of film quality.<br><br>And RAMBO II is shit for what it is. It is shit. My most hated movie until TOP GUN showed up.

  • April 28, 2010, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Great to see the love for Powers Boothe in here

    by AsimovLives

    Terribly underrated actor. And how come you guys can talk about Powers Boothe and not mention RED DAWN?

  • April 28, 2010, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Hold the horses...

    by Big_Daddy_Nero

    Ok, I know this is a Powers Boothe thing, which has turned into a Tombstone thing, which has then turned into a 'merits of Tombstone' thing... that's all fine, Tombstone is an extremely watchable flick (with the exception of there being too many scenes with the womenfolk lol).. HOWEVER, I am not so sure that, as some people are saying, that Tombstone should wear the mantle of 'Most Quotable Movie Ever', as has been insisted.. that title may very well belong to the OTHER great Kurt Russel flick - and you all know what I am talking about of course. The Pork Chop Express never slows down baby!

  • April 28, 2010, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Asi i didnt see computers and airplanes in Tombstone

    by ominus

    so nitpicks dont destroy the quality of the film.Unless you consider Spartacus and Ben Hur cinematic failures...

  • April 28, 2010, 10:44 a.m. CST

    basically Spartan is a bit of mess

    by ominus

    there were some things that didnt make sense and bugged me,but i dont remember them right now.but yeah a very good action/thriller flick man,one army.

  • April 28, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Most Quoatable movie ever

    by arby64


  • April 28, 2010, 11:28 a.m. CST

    "My mama always told me..."

    by Mosquito March

    "...never put off till tomorrow people you can kill today." *** I saw WYATT EARP three times in the theater, and I have watched it once or twice a year ever since. It's epic, beautifully photographed, and has the superior cast. Everything about the movie is better than TOMBSTONE, which is just plain dumb - a standard '80s-style action flick dressed up as a Western, designed for people whose lives revolve around Budweiser and NASCAR. (I worked at a video store in the '90s - I know who the fans are.) Look at the way both films approach the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral. Kasdan goes for short and brutal, while Cosmatos goes for dumb, drawn-out Hollywood firearm histrionics. I guess that's "fun" for a lot of people, but the gunfight in WYATT EARP ends up being a thousand times more badass. And Quaid's Doc Holiday kicks the crap out of Kilmer and his stupid tin-cup-twirling bullshit.

  • April 28, 2010, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Russell Says it was his movie

    by akbled A good interview with Russel from a few years back.

  • April 28, 2010, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Spartan = ROCKS!

    by reaper28

    I can't even remember how I found it (probably pissed in my local video shop one night) but was totally hooked by it. <p>Bought it a couple of years later for a criminally low £5 at my local Woolworths' and watch it a couple of times a year at least.</p> <p>Yeah it ain't perfect, there are a couple of things wrong with it (Curtis' arc, thought that was a waste of a potentially good character) but it just goes to show you what's possible when you get an intelligent script written by a good writer and solid restrained performance from the lead actor. </p> <p>If you haven't watched it, try it ... it's better than most of the shit around.</p> Oh and Tombstone was fucking BRILLIANT. Just reading the Boothe interview and seeing all the comments I'd completely forgotten just how awesome it is.</p> <p>I'm off to get my copy</p>

  • April 28, 2010, 1:44 p.m. CST


    by thesinofthesky

    I guess I'll have to give Wyatt Earp another watching.

  • April 28, 2010, 3:02 p.m. CST


    by NADO

  • April 28, 2010, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Damn Fine Movie

    by Lang The Cat

    I like the cast, I love the writing and if there were another 45 minutes, I still would love it.

  • April 28, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Mosquito March

    by BLEST

    I live in Northern California outside of Sacramento, hate NASCAR, drink Heineken, and have a successful job at an IT company.<p>And I think Tombstone is the tits. So there's goes that ghey nonsense.<p>Also, it PISSES on Wyatt Earp. <p>Kilmers Doc would shoot Quaid in the head with one hand, turn, and with the cigarrette in the other tell him that he's no daisy at all. <p>Done waisting time here Huckleberry.

  • April 28, 2010, 3:52 p.m. CST

    O.K. Corral fight in Tombstone-

    by BanditDarville

    As much as I love that shootout, why have Doc fire a double-barrel shotgun three times in a row (shoots one dude, scares the horse by firing up in the air, then shoots another)?

  • April 28, 2010, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Thanks ADDr

    by Star Hump

    Great to read about this classic film from someone who was there and behind the scenes.

  • April 28, 2010, 7:01 p.m. CST

    what I liked about Spartan

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    was that it didn't pander to the audience. There was no bullshit exposition scenes, if you weren't paying attention you weren't going to keep up. Miami Vice had this going for it too, whatever else you choose to say about the film. I found it refreshing.

  • April 28, 2010, 7:32 p.m. CST


    by slugbat

    He reloaded off camera? That's the kind of slack you get if you make a classic.

  • April 28, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST


    by blade_walker

    That's my favorite Curly Bill quote. My friends and I always say that line to each other when we part ways. Kurt Russell said that he has all the extra footage in cans and that it would be great to one day recut the film. When asked why he doesn't just hunker down and do it, he replied "Because I have a life!" *Cue Kurt Russell laugh*

  • April 28, 2010, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Just because everyone is so gd positive

    by slugbat

    That scene with Curly Bill and that Sheriff that looked like the Toy Story 2 Evil Miner...that was kind of awkward and disjointed. I always hate that scene.

  • April 28, 2010, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Josie's biography, Smoking Robot?

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Fucking please. Half that shit was from Josie's diary and the other half was MADE THE FUCK UP! Read "Inventing Wyatt Earp" for a great dissection of ALL the Earp books. It analyzes both the pro- and the anti-Earp books and tries to reach a conclusion as to what "really" happened.<p>No offense, though. I like Josie's book as well as "Wyatt Earp: The Untold Story" (anti-Earp) and "Wyatt Earp: Frontier Marshal" (pro-Earp), too, but I gotta admit that each of these comes with its own point-of-view.

  • April 28, 2010, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Oh and Tombstone > Wyatt Earp

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    I fuckin' live to read and watch Kasdan and I like Wyatt Earp a lot, but when I'm ready to sit down and have some fun I plop in "Tombstone." I'll also stop and watch "Tombstone" any time it's on while channel surfing. (I do the same for "Wyatt Earp," too, though, but never with the "woo hoo" of "Tombstone.")<p>And regarding "historical accuracy" - "Tombstone" vs. "Wyatt Earp" - if you're talking costumes, sets, or pistols, I've got no argument with you 'cause I've got little knowledge of those things. But, if you're talking "historical accuracy" in terms of Wyatt's life and its events, well, then we can talk 'cause I've read about ten books on Earp.<p>In fact, both of the movies are about EQUALLY historically accurate/inaccurate.

  • April 28, 2010, 11:59 p.m. CST

    Powers Boothe =

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    The Man! Great interview, too.

  • April 29, 2010, midnight CST

    Powers Boothe as Marlowe

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Pretty good stuff, too. Not up to par with Boothe's other work and nowhere near Bogart. Boothe seemed a little "pulpy" to me in that role when Marlowe is definitely NOT pulpy.

  • April 29, 2010, 12:37 a.m. CST

    Totally Agree

    by Weapon M

    For me my fav Western is Tombstone. This movie has it all. the tough guy actors. Val Kilmer as Doc, Ringo was amazing!. All the actors were just perfect. The One Liners were great! The best Westerns had them! they had the action! The story was very mythological-- when it comes down to it many of the true stories of these legendary gun slingers were in fact stretched truths too right? Many times when you dug deeper either there wasnt a real story behind a guy or they ended up being shot in the back by some loser somewhere. They didnt go out in a blaze of glory as is the legend. So, this movie is mythological. It's great! One of my favs! The wild bunch also was known for its great lines as well, and great actors. Very dramatic.. oh yeah-- lemme now forget, another very vital ingredient in these Westerns is the Code of Honor these Gunslingers had. The good guys anyways.. Sometimes the bad guys too. These were like the Western versions of Samurai movies. There were old school codes of honor and how you carried yourself as a man that carried through in the movie. Either it was spoken or unspoken. True Classic Westerns have it! Tombstone nailed it on all points!

  • April 29, 2010, 2:39 a.m. CST

    Enjoy Tombstone...

    by nothingordouble_jack

    because movies like it are becoming extinct. Tombstone probably wouldn't get a theatrical release now and if it did, you'd see Ashton Kutcher as Wyatt, Shia LaBouf as Doc, and Zac Ephron as Ringo. We're gonna have to get used to seeing a good little Western that plays on 100 screens once every blue moon, that a big time actor pushes through as a passion project like Pitt with Jesse James or Harris and Viggo with Appaloosa. It's kind of like Tombstone and Wyatt Earp marked the end of an era. We won't see studios attempt a "blockbuster" western anymore.

  • April 29, 2010, 3:59 a.m. CST

    Skin those smoke wagons!

    by HarryBlackPotter

    Throw down, boy!

  • April 29, 2010, 5:33 a.m. CST

    Comparisons between Tombstone and Wyatt Earp

    by Stegman84

    If you love 'movies' then you love Tombstone. <p>If you love 'cinema' then you love Wyatt Earp.<p>If you love both, then you see how lucky we all are that we got both of these, and that both achieved exactly what they set out to be, and that both are masterpieces in their own right.<p>I favor the third option.

  • April 29, 2010, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Half ass photoshop job

    by Thunderbolt Ross

  • April 29, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Tombstone as a favorite western?

    by AsimovLives

    That's just not right!

  • April 29, 2010, 4:54 p.m. CST

    When I think Tombstone...

    by SunTzu77

    I think Val Kilmer... great acting.

  • April 29, 2010, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Realistic Westerns?

    by SunTzu77

    If we're going to hunt down realistic western films... you need to scrap every single one that has a high noon... in the middle of the street... shoot out. You took your shot when you had it.