April 27, 2010, 2 a.m. CST
April 27, 2010, 2:12 a.m. CST
Look at those ratings. If it was a sci fi shou it would be gone by now.
April 27, 2010, 3:13 a.m. CST
The problem with these shows is they took to long to get going. Which is a shame because both have gotten 50x better the past few weeks, but the damage was already done with the early shows not getting anywhere. You can see by the premieres of these shows people wanted to be into them, but they failed to keep people hooked early on. Flashforward is likely done, hopefully they were prepared and wrapped it up in the finale for its remaining fans. V still has a shot at being renewed, but they would be really smart to get the "war" going soon.
April 27, 2010, 4:30 a.m. CST
it seems that 3% view his posts as somewhat worthy,while 22% dont give a shit about his posts yet believe he is clearly a homosexual. 45% KNOW he is a homosexual. The rest voted for Gumby and Pokey to have his space for a column on Claymation Sex in 3D.
April 27, 2010, 4:35 a.m. CST
The show is designed to be watched carefully by the viewer for every minute. Don't think the public has the patients or commitment to do so and thus many have thrown up there hands with all the flash sideways.
April 27, 2010, 5:01 a.m. CST
Never know when it will be here.
April 27, 2010, 5:10 a.m. CST
Ratings for Lost haven't mattered for us since the show was given a definitive end date by ABC. It's not like there's any question of the show getting picked up or not.
April 27, 2010, 5:20 a.m. CST
by Porco Drunko
everybody's coming back for the finale. And people were prepared to watch this last season, but the endless fucking walking has been killing this last season. Seriously how much of these last few episodes have just been people traveling to the camp, or the dock, or on the boat, and then coming back, and on and on and on and on. Fuck can't people just get to where the plot is happening.
April 27, 2010, 5:33 a.m. CST
The musical sequences will get longer and gratuitous to make up for the fact that the plot is predictable and dull. I still LMAO and ROLFd at a rate comparable to Scrubs in it's prime, though. Sue Sylvester is the new Dr Cox and the only reason people too intelligent to watch Pop Idol et al. tune into the show.
April 27, 2010, 5:37 a.m. CST
....I don't get the Glee love. I have a feeling that it's this years 'Ugly Betty'. One of those shows that critics love and gets a ton of buzz and publicity from being everywhere, but after a short while crashes and burns due to overexposure.
April 27, 2010, 5:38 a.m. CST
but it has some fucking genius lines "Dolphins are just gay sharks" and "She's black, I'm gay, we create culture" are just 2 of the better ones
April 27, 2010, 5:40 a.m. CST
standout stories of this season. #1 scripted show on TV, more than holds its own against the idiot karaoke. And a winning cast to boot.
April 27, 2010, 5:55 a.m. CST
Just like Ugly Betty, Glee will lose sight of its "subversive" appeal and fall back on campy showtunes to keep its core audience of housewives and homosexuals. Until then I don't mind going along for the ride until it jumps the shark at 200mph.
April 27, 2010, 5:57 a.m. CST
Solved one murder, solved them all. What, really, should I go back for?
April 27, 2010, 6:07 a.m. CST
And it's still fun. At its best for my money.
April 27, 2010, 6:48 a.m. CST
No LOST=more time for game 7. Red Wings Suck!
April 27, 2010, 6:55 a.m. CST
... sort out how you're showing this data - it looks like a big old mess as soon as each show takes up more than one line.
April 27, 2010, 6:57 a.m. CST
April 27, 2010, 7:12 a.m. CST
but soon enough everyone will turn on it, just like they turn on EVERYTHING else.
April 27, 2010, 7:15 a.m. CST
Say what you will about the murder of the week formula that NCIS uses for every episode but its the characters that keep me going back. No there's rarely anything unexpected in what happens during the show, but the characters are just fun to watch. NCIS:LA on the other hand lacks that.
April 27, 2010, 7:23 a.m. CST
Any guy more then eight years old who says they don't like Glee obviously never saw this: http://tinyurl.com/29vzbaf
April 27, 2010, 7:49 a.m. CST
V is really not even worth watching. It sucks. Flash Forward actually has it's moments but some of the things that go on are just to ridiculous for me to even believe. I know it is TV but cmon man.
April 27, 2010, 8:03 a.m. CST
Humanity in the show has hardly reacted to the alien presence at all.<br /><br />In Alien Nation, there were a few thousand aliens and they were pretty much segregated to one city and its outskirts. They still had a huge effect on the planet.<br /><br />Aliens in V are all over the world, with constant reminders when you look up. And yet humanity is collectively blase about the whole thing. It's stupid.<br /><br />(Flashforward suffered from the same lack of imagination. The writers just can't think "big")
April 27, 2010, 8:09 a.m. CST
That link doesn't work outside the States. I presume it was the female cast members jumping up and down on a trampoline topless, because that's the only thing that would get a straight man over 8 years old watching this High School Musical by way of Joss Whedon drival
April 27, 2010, 8:15 a.m. CST
Scantily clad cheerleaders dancing around an SUV while the Sassy Black Chick sings.
April 27, 2010, 8:48 a.m. CST
Especially last week's Madonna-centric episode. Of course, that feeling was most likely aggravated by the plug for a Glee CD - The Power of Madonna, available for sale as the episode was airing. Before the break I felt the show was driving the marketing; now it seems marketing is driving the show. And that's never a good thing.<p>But on a positive note, Kristin Chenoweth returns tonight. Chenoweth on anything is always a good thing.
April 27, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST
The only interesting character is Anna, the head of the aliens. Every other character is a boring stereotype. I find myself just fast-forwarding to Anna's scenes because I already know what everyone else is going to do.
April 27, 2010, 9:27 a.m. CST
and justfied is decent, but not at all what i was expecting.
April 27, 2010, 9:37 a.m. CST
is Anna, I'm finding the main characters need touching up on characterisation. A lack of it does not make you want to root for these people. Production values on Visuals are great, needs better writing as a whole for the the characters. The only other character now apart from Anna I find interesting is Chad. So it doesn't say much about the main leads in this. Definitely needs improving.
April 27, 2010, 9:40 a.m. CST
I think the opinion put forth by others here about it burning hotly and quickly fizzling out is spot on. It's a great show, but as with all musical theater, or television, you need to continue to one up yourself. Being that it's a combination of both, the writers have twice the responsibility to keep it interesting. Eventually, there just may not be anywhere to go. The fact they're considering doing a "The Power of Madonna II" is not a good sign either. To keep a show of this kind inventive you can't rest on your laurels or go back to past successes. You need to keep coming up with new ideas and twists. If you want to do a themed show, fine. But choose another pop/rock star-perhaps someone on the more masculine side that wouldn't turn off the feminine viewership. Maybe an all Aerosmith episode?
April 27, 2010, 9:44 a.m. CST
Now that I think about it, an all U2 EPISODE would be thoroughly marketable.
April 27, 2010, 9:50 a.m. CST
We need one! Let's keep this great show on the air!
April 27, 2010, 9:50 a.m. CST
whenever you shoehorn shows into these ratings articles, herc, it seems like that's your way of telling us the show has stopped being interesting to you.
April 27, 2010, 9:51 a.m. CST
I can't watch that show, it's boring.
April 27, 2010, 9:53 a.m. CST
The show is terrible, for all the reasons everyone on here has listed combined. The world hasn't reacted to the aliens in any way. It makes no sense. The characters are painfully boring, especially Liz Mitchell, which sucks. Her son is the douchiest actor to ever be put on screen. I neve quit shows mid-season, but I had to quit V. It's honestly just too awful. I'll watch flashforward still, cause it's hilariously entertaining in it's balance between good moments and just utter silliness. V is just boring. It's not even bad enough to be fun.
April 27, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST
Lost isn't on tonight, huh. thatd explain that.
April 27, 2010, 10:09 a.m. CST
cause that really is a good show :)
April 27, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST
but I think the concern over it's long-term appeal is well founded. I didn't think the Power of Madonna episode was too shilly - I thought they toed the line pretty well, being camp enough to get away with it.<p>It hasn't lost its snark or its edge yet, but the first batch of episodes just went for it because they had nothing to lose. Now that it's a phenomenon, I hope it doesn't suddenly become too precious.<P>And Chenoweth is a national treasure. Looking forward to tonight's ep.
April 27, 2010, 10:19 a.m. CST
Because I honestly feel like it's a joke being told in a foreign language. I just don't get it.
April 27, 2010, 10:19 a.m. CST
by The McPoyle Clan
You know a show's almost creatively exhausted by the time everyone's banged each other. Maybe Murphy can work in some of the plots he never go to do on Nip Tuck.
April 27, 2010, 10:21 a.m. CST
That has got to be one of the best written and acted shows on television. Patty Hewes, the Glenn Close character, is one of the most complex characters ever. Is she a good guy crusader or an evil vengeful and controlling bitch? Or both?
April 27, 2010, 10:31 a.m. CST
Holy shit, all the greenscreen sets suck. In the first V, I'd love a trip to the cool ships in those funky shuttles.<p>All the tech in this is as boring as the leads. Please die.
April 27, 2010, 10:39 a.m. CST
That's why we watch.
April 27, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST
I gave it enough time to develop something resembling a story arc and all we got is a con artist father and a white supremacist in jail. I don't really care about any other characters in the show besides Olyphant's. I liked the whole modern Wild West concept in the beginning but it's not enough. I'm out!
April 27, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST
V is horribly boring. after the break, they tried to ramp up the melodrama to create interest in the characters but so far it's only made the show even more boring. i'm losing patience. then again, i lasted only 2 episodes with Flashforward
April 27, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST
by Leto III
The difference between the V and BSG reboots lies in the source material. Ron Moore realized that as dumb as the original show was, with its space discos and pyramids, there was still promise in the initial premise, with its themes of genocide and terror. V, on the other hand, was always just plain fucking stupid. Aliens travel millions of light years to steal our oceans, when water is commonly throughout the galaxy, and one of the easiest compounds to synthesize? And on top of that, they want to farm humans for food, which seems to consist of hauling off the populations of small towns in the middle of the night so nobody notices, and then tossing them into a giant space-fridge? Is this the “Stouffer's” model of interstellar animal husbandry, where every inhabited planet is a glorified Kwik-E-Mart? V is typical of a kind of SF television that I'd hoped had died sometime in the '80s -- just say that it's "relevant," it's "topical," and to fuck all with logic, science, worldbuilding, or good storytelling. It's science fiction as metaphor or allegory, something that cannot stand on its own as a compelling drama. But then again, the networks categorically hate and misunderstand science fiction (which is why J.J. Abrams had to sneak Lost by under the pretense that it was a "fictional" version of Survivor) -- a network that is afraid of calling the Visitors "aliens," even though they're from another planet, travel on giant spaceships, possess superior technology, are naked, egg-bearing lizard ladies, etc., can't be counted on to get the basic elements of a genre straight.
April 27, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST
by Leto III
The difference between the V and BSG reboots lies in the source material. Ron Moore realized that as dumb as the original show was, with its space discos and pyramids, there was still promise in the initial premise, with its themes of genocide and terror.<p> V, on the other hand, was always just plain fucking stupid. Aliens travel millions of light years to steal our oceans, when water is commonly throughout the galaxy, and one of the easiest compounds to synthesize? And on top of that, they want to farm humans for food, which seems to consist of hauling off the populations of small towns in the middle of the night so nobody notices, and then tossing them into a giant space-fridge? Is this the "Stouffer's" model of interstellar animal husbandry, where every inhabited planet is a glorified Kwik-E-Mart? <p>V is typical of a kind of SF television that I'd hoped had died sometime in the '80s -- just say that it's "relevant," it's "topical," and to fuck all with logic, science, worldbuilding, or good storytelling. It's science fiction as metaphor or allegory, something that cannot stand on its own as a compelling drama. But then again, the networks categorically hate and misunderstand science fiction (which is why J.J. Abrams had to sneak Lost by under the pretense that it was a "fictional" version of Survivor) -- a network that is afraid of calling the Visitors "aliens," even though they're from another planet, travel on giant spaceships, possess superior technology, are naked, egg-bearing lizard ladies, etc., can't be counted on to get the basic elements of a genre straight.
April 27, 2010, 11:13 a.m. CST
by Leto III
It posted on me while I was typing in the subject-header.
April 27, 2010, 11:25 a.m. CST
I can't miss an episode. I do worry though that they will over due to song numbers. The Madonna episode had more songs than actual story. I'm more interested in the characters and the story of people who happen to be in glee club. If they push more song than story, I believe people will tune out except that core group of musical lovers. Give me more Finn, Rachel, Quinn and Puck; less Like a Virgin.
April 27, 2010, 11:49 a.m. CST
3 minutes of straight on-screen covers of popular songs gets tedious.
April 27, 2010, 11:59 a.m. CST
by Agent Blue
STOPS watching Lost so close to the end? Dropping 1.8 is huge considering a majority of the initial were probably hardcore fans.
April 27, 2010, 12:11 p.m. CST
"When I pulled my hamstring, I went to a misogynist." GOLD! Girl's got some great comedic timing...
April 27, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST
by Nice Marmot
. . . it will be ruined by overexposure (its already on Oprah's list of things she acts like she discovered) and guest stars (think every other episode of Will & Grace at the end).
April 27, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST
Probably the result of DVR and people watching it online. After watching it from the get-go, there's no way I could up and bail on it now with like 5 episodes left...can't imagine many would...
April 27, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST
Somebody up on high has been cramming that down everyones throats as a smash hit since about 8 months before it even aired. <P> Btw it fucking sucks balls. It would literally if the shows creators could get away with showing it.
April 27, 2010, 12:30 p.m. CST
I've never watched Glee but that blonde cheerleader is FUNNY. They probably put all her best lines on the ads anyway.
April 27, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST
Last weeks seemed a bit more interesting to me, probably because of the excellent co stars. It really isn't particularly special. I'm hoping Goggin starts getting a lot more airtime starting tonight.
April 27, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST
"'The Biggest Loser' gained for the fourth straight week."
April 27, 2010, 12:42 p.m. CST
by A G
Has been somewhat dissapointing this season but the finale will smash a hole in the atmosphere. EARTH SHATTERING.
April 27, 2010, 1:17 p.m. CST
I don't care about how she makes things happen, but if I had to have a lawyer she is the one I would want. She is the Vic Mackey of lawyers. When the chips are down I would want Patty and Vic on my side regardless of their methods.
April 27, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST
Graphic, prolonged incest scenes with Moreena Baccarin and that hot blond with the pig nose who plays her daughter. Just scrap the rest of the actors and put those to on to hot oil wrestler every week. Biggest. Ratings. Ever.
April 27, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST
by Smoke Monster Loves Kate
Everyone's waiting for Hobbs to do some badass shit.<p>A suitable plot change would be to have the Visitors want to make Earth their new home. Earth is at least rare in that regard, it's some prime real estate for living organisms.
April 27, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST
the original was an allegory for the rise of nazism and fascism<p> why the aliens came was a side point<p> the writers wanted to show how easily people would turn to fascism if given the chance<p> yes, the sequel was silly and the series even more silly...but it doesnt take away from the impact of the original<p> the problem with the current series is that it has nothing to say, except that if there were miracle cures and free energy, alot of rich people would become poor...fuck them<p> we still have no idea why the aliens came, and that is a problem as some of the resistance are aliens, and they dont even seem to know<p> the aliens who are rebelling seem to only be rebelling because they like being human<p> bsg worked because it had something to say, had great writing and usually very good acting<p> v has none of that...and that is why it sucks ass
April 27, 2010, 1:32 p.m. CST
in the hopes of seeing liz mitchell without a shirt
April 27, 2010, 1:53 p.m. CST
episode I'd like to see is a Johnny Cash centric ep...or even fucking acknowledge Cash. Although the U2 suggestion above was gold<P>just not another Madonna ep
April 27, 2010, 1:54 p.m. CST
Not only would your mother/daughter pairing be fucking awesome, but I think the only way I'd find Tyler to be remotely interesting, is if he was plowing into Liz Mitchell on a regular basis. That's some kinky ratings gold right there.
April 27, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST
The only reason it gets crap ratings it's cause people are so disgusted with Lost this season they switch it off.
April 27, 2010, 2:13 p.m. CST
Awful, terrible writing. Even on their own ship they speak as if they just came off the block. It's annoying, and frankly, we should have blown them out of the sky the minute they invaded our airspace, but apparently they've been here for quite a while, to prevent that from happening. They've ruined any surprises, and it's just plain boring.
April 27, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST
Season 6 of lost is terrible. Not surprised it's numbers are lowest ever. Everyone has pretty much checked out and it phoning it in.
April 27, 2010, 2:23 p.m. CST
I hate all these shows, because I'm not a fag. All of these shows appeal to queers.
April 27, 2010, 2:28 p.m. CST
notice to ABC: she is not hot. she wasn't hot in Gia, wasn't hot on ER, wasn't hot on Lost, and isn't hot on V. it's telling her character on V is a single mom: nobody would be able to believe that any man alive would stay married to the woman. she has two modes, strident and manipulative. and her tori-spelling-esque cleavage crater makes my penis want to develop a reflex in which it retreats into my body instead of becoming engorged.<P>although V seems so fucking ill-conceived, every episode could feature amanda seyfried scissorfucking a clone of herself and i still probably couldn't find myself interested.
April 27, 2010, 2:29 p.m. CST
Many in the world would freak out about aliens since many religions, not just Christians, believe humans are alone in the universe. Think the sabotage scene in "Contact." Also, what about Islamic nations? Wouldn't Pakistan fire a nuke at the ship?-----later----m
April 27, 2010, 3:16 p.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
[Sawyer]Son of a BITCH![/Sawyer]
April 27, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST
be interested in the young teen scissoring a clone of herself, immediately calls into question your assessment of Liz Mitchell. Especially in Gia, where she lezzed all over Angelina "brother-fucker" Jolie.
April 27, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST
The shows ratings are down because it's turned into a predictable snooze fest. Seriously, when this mess is over with it will be considered one of the worst final seasons in television history. How can you be given exactly what you want from the network and come up with something this shitty?
April 27, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST
It's awful. And it has nothing to do with lost. I'm really sorry, but I'm convinced anyone who thinks V is legitmately good television (I'm not judging you for watching it....just for thinking its actually really good) doesn't know good from bad. They just watch in a non-critical way or something. I don't believe any one can watch that show and think "OOh, I like where this is headed." I really think its just "This is a show about aliens invading with spaceships and stuff. It MUST be good." It's just so devoid of anything good. I watch it, and sometimes can't fathom how its even possible to screw up such a fantastic concept so badly. They just make all the right choices. <br /><br />I know this post makes me some sort of fascist on here for even vaguely attacking you. I'm not trying to call anyone stupid at all...but maybe I did anyway, I don't know anymore. V is terrible, is my point.
April 27, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST
Haha, that line looks really contradictory. In case any one cared enough about my post. Which I have no doubt that they do not at all.
April 27, 2010, 4:23 p.m. CST
Hopefully you caught on in the other posts that mentioned it, but if you're watching V to see her cans you can stop because they are on display in Gia, and as a bonus you get Hot Lesbian Action (HLA) between her and naked Angelina "brother-fucker" Jolie (thanks V'Shael). <p> V... yeah, it's pretty bad. I can't be shitted to care about anything going on except hoping that the son gets eaten by the lizards. Man, he sucks worse than anything else on the show. <p> I want a good resolution to Flash Forward because it's gotten a lot better after the hiatus, but V can disappear, I really don't care.
April 27, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST
V is better than Parenthood and Glee, but magazines would rather kiss Glee's ass than report on V so it gets viewers.
April 27, 2010, 5:01 p.m. CST
its not enough to just say its good...provide evidence
April 27, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST
The action on V is great. The main actresses are fantastic. The news reporter guy isn't annoying. I love the fact that the V's have already been on Earth preparing for invasion.
April 27, 2010, 6:11 p.m. CST
what a gyp
April 27, 2010, 6:56 p.m. CST
April 27, 2010, 7:12 p.m. CST
It's not perfect, but its better than V and Glee combined, and It's on right after LOST, if you absolutely feel the need to watch television from 10-11. You could just...turn the tube off though. Just sayin. V had the viewers, the majority quit because it is a bad show.
April 27, 2010, 7:33 p.m. CST
much better than the raw data.
April 27, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST
Once we smart people get tired of the knowitall "ironic" attitude, the audience left over will be the people that just watch it for the stereotypes they can all identify with and sing along to the tunes. Then glee will have proved it's own point. That fluffy light entertainment is all anybody really wants, celebrities deserve to be worshipped and real human truth exists in the banal shallow pleasure given by a catchy song. The Madonna episode was a case in point. The unhappiest, bitchiest and meanest character is the one with the Madonna obsession and insists that it is played by blackmailing the principle.
April 27, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST
title follows prev post.
April 27, 2010, 9:56 p.m. CST
Just bitching here, but damn, we were supposed to get all the episodes without "hiatuses". (I hate that word, "hiatus" sounds like something that happen to your balls when you lift something that's too heavy.)
April 27, 2010, 10 p.m. CST
...V is a dumbass premise and I think it's ironically hilarious that Stphen Hawking, who's supposed to be the real world's own Reed Richards, thinks it's an accurate premise. Robot-voiced fucker must have excellent PR reps, because his recent "aliens would kill us all and have their way with our wimmen-folk" schtick makes him sound like an r-tard.
April 27, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST
...Yeah, that chick with the pig nose is just weirdass-looking. What surgeon royally fucked up that job? Hot body, though. Just realized she played Supergirl on Smallville. (Is that show still on? Shouldn't Clark be retired and working as a Wal-Mart greeter by this point?)
April 27, 2010, 10:09 p.m. CST
<p>I wonder. Not only did the break hurt, but changing show runners hurt too. It's become a much more straight-forward cop drama after switching show runners.</p> <p>I assume that it will canceled, because it's a sci-fi show on network tv about aliens and space-ships. That type of thing usually isn't very successful.</p> <p>I'm enjoying it. It definitely isn't living up to its potential yet, but give any show a chance and it can get better.</p>
April 27, 2010, 10:36 p.m. CST
I was surprised it was renewed.
April 27, 2010, 10:43 p.m. CST
April 27, 2010, 10:45 p.m. CST
"I'm notifying the Department of Motor Vehicles that I will no longer be carrying a photo ID because after today everyone ought to know who I am." <br /> !!!<br />
April 27, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST
i don't get how it gets those numbers. v deserves a bit more attention.
April 28, 2010, 12:44 a.m. CST
by Bob Loblaw Law Blog
so says TV Squad:<p> http://bit.ly/bwWMUJ <p>
April 28, 2010, 1:04 a.m. CST
It had good moral issues, drama and actiony stuff tonight. Please let the series keep this up and it will be a winner
April 28, 2010, 1:43 a.m. CST
because most shows this good are usually on FOX and end up getting canceled after the third episode. Or they're on some god forsaken cable network where they're on at like 3 in the morning.
April 28, 2010, 2 a.m. CST
So let me get this straight. I'm over 8 years old and I'm supposed to get excited about Keenan Thompson prancing around like a walrus impersonating Beyonce, unable to sing, also like Beyonce, unable to act, again also like Beyonce, and droning on about throwing a rock through someone's window (which could have been seen being done with more flair by Earnest T on "The Andy Griffith Show") while a bunch of bikini-topped cheerleaders dance around an SUV. Forgive me, but I can get better porn on the internet for free without commercials, without stone throwing, with better music (even if it is 70's bow chica bow wow) and without Keenan and Kel in drag. Now Jimbo, take off the panties and churn up some testosterone, we watch real shows once our testicles drop.
April 28, 2010, 2:05 a.m. CST
"I'm Jackie." (pause) "Sorry, not a clue." "Jackie Florrick, Peter's mother!" "Ah! Hello, how are you. I'm Eli Gold." "You're not the plumber." "Uh, no, I'm your son's Image Consultant." <br /> <br /> Considering he was wearing a thousand dollar suit, he really didn't look much like the plumber. <br /> <br /> Alan Cumming on the Good Wife cracks me up. <br /> <br /> Wait, that sentence needs an unnecessary comma:<br /> <br /> "Alan, cumming on the good wife..."<br /> <br /> yeah, that you'd watch,right?
April 28, 2010, 2:15 a.m. CST
Anyone who think any porn made past the '80s still uses that iconic wah-wah guitar music must get all his ideas about porn from stand up comedians from the '90s. <br /> You're really not going to get much softcore porn on broadcast network TV (and no hardcore) so comparing a clip from a hit TV show to porn really doesn't accomplish anything, kdoc. <br /> And if you obviously know nothing about porn, why brag about your testosterone? Glad to hear your testicles finally dropped, now pick them up off the floor and ask your mommy to sew they back on for you.
April 28, 2010, 4:07 a.m. CST
I agree, it just cant last forever, it might just last a few seasons. But I would rather have one great season and then no more, than one great season and then three more limping on afterwards (cough, Heroes).
April 28, 2010, 5:52 a.m. CST
it keeps SETTING UP some POTENTIALLY really really cool stuff - but then just utterly completely miserably fails in actually getting to any cool stuff...<br /><br />the reveal that V's had been embedded into society for decades is a perfect example of this - just trawl through a SMALL PORTION of the various Lizard-People Alien conspiracy theories out there and there's an absolute GOLDMINE of stuff you could do with that!<br /><br />V has done exactly NOTHING with it<br /><br />last week we saw this African dude - head of the UN or something - handed a perfect opportunity to explain how our own experiences right here on Earth - specifically in whatever country you want to make him from - show how just handing out some nifty technology to people can actually do more harm than good... and he says...<br /><br />nothing<br /><br />the reporter - they STILL haven't done a damn thing with him...<br /><br />the Aussie terrorist dude (coz you know there are so many Australian causes worth fighting for) is meant to be doing... what, exactly? He's meant to be Ham Tyler, right? Ham Tyler probably did more in one single episode of that crappy TV series than this dude has done in his entire tenure on this show! They even managed to make a potentially cool SNIPER scene with him completely boring and sucktacular!<br /><br />Juliet's cans made a nice appearance this week, but she hasn't really given us much else to work with - isn't she supposed to be working for the FBI or something? Seemed like maybe there was potential for some intrigue over, say, that Final Five woman possibly being a plant or something but once again they have done EXACTLY NOTHING with that...<br /><br />it's not that it's all been about setup this season and there's going to be payoff coming later - the opportunity for payoff keep slipping on by and nothing ever fucking happens<br /><br />I *want* to like this show - I really do!<br /><br />but it's boring me to tears
April 28, 2010, 6:02 a.m. CST
I only get basic cable so I've never seen "the L Word" or "Five Gays on a Straight Guy" or whatever that was called. <br /> So, I'm wondering, how many gay themed shows are there on broadcast network TV? By which I mean National, American, Columbia, Fox, CW and PBS. <br /> <br /> Once Glee debuted a lot of latents and closeted types started getting all butch and griping that a show about show tunes had to be teh Ghey. Frankly, I'm glad someone at Fox had the balls to step up and say Hell yeah, what's it to ya?<br /> <br /> I mean, last week a Madonna episode? That's not even trying to pass for straight. This week they return to the dormant subplot about the gay singer in love with the jock. Plus more traction with the two Cheerios whose idea of a dream date is to let some guy buy them dinner and then let him watch them make out. Hey, straight America loves their lesbiums, and this sort of makes up for the Asian goth chick who was a dyke in the pilot and then dropped that character trait and hooked up with the wheelchair kid. <br /> <br /> I might agree with the discussion here: Glee overhype could chill the shows hotness. What with the CDs and DVD and iPhone app. and the Dove Glee-for-all game and the interactive photo booth at their web site and that contest to vote for which new Mountain Dew flavor is gayest. <br /> <br /> Still, I can't think of that many other gay themed shows on broadcast network TV at the moment - since they canceled Betty. Shows with one token gay character don't count, that's just America in the 21st century: even Archie Comics figured that out. <br /> <br /> You never know what Fox is going to do. On the one hand they offer and kill stuff like Wonderfalls, Firefly, Greg the Bunny way to soon. And yet on the other hand you get people complaining about how they dragged X-Files, 24 or Simpsons way past their expiration dates.
April 28, 2010, 7:45 a.m. CST
Just that we should all, for some daft reason, support it. I want to know what you people think doesn't suck about this show. Honestly. It's the least interesting thing on tv. Just admit it yourselves already. There's nothing to be gained in saying something is good just based on the fact that you watch it. Take a critical look at something for once.
April 28, 2010, 7:49 a.m. CST
Just because the show is about singing and a glee club...its "gay themed". So singing and dancing is a gay theme? That's pretty fucked up if you ask me. I'm pretty you sure aren't being homophobic about it, but I still sort of resent the idea that because a show involves singing songs and choreography its automatically a gay show. I'm not gay, and I really don't enjoy Glee (I have seen it), but to boil it down to judging its "theme" based on who people you don't know have sex with is pretty base. I mean, I do think you're an idiot anyway, based on all the stupid shit you post on lost...but at least that is just empty theorizing on a show. This is just empty-headed generalizing of an entire group of people. I guess every gay man who has ever lived just LOOOOOOVES show-tunes right?
April 28, 2010, 9:17 a.m. CST
I want it to be good, but so far too hard to tell. The acting, dialog and writing needs to be drastically improved. But so far the visuals are great but much else. So far still haven't come close to the original 'V'. Now that was something. The original premises of 'V' is there in updated format. But the Show's Crew need to hack at it to make the characters more interesting enough to keep you watching it. So far I'm in it to watch the plot, everything else needs improving.
April 28, 2010, 10:15 a.m. CST
by Man in Suit
I would point to the favorite Glee dialogue quotes by the show's proponents in this talkback: "Dolphins are just gay sharks" and "She's black, I'm gay, we create culture", etc. There is no doubt that Glee is a gay-themed show and flows with the typical "gay people are cooler than straight people vibe". I don't have any problem with that but I'm guessing that discussing Glee's show tunes on AICN is about as interesting as reminiscing about who the best "Will and Grace" guest stars were. Just not a rewarding topic for most of the people on the site here, I'd say.
April 28, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST
I will watch anything that has Elizabeth Mitchell in it. I do wish she was still on Lost instead of this sad excuse for a series but I will take what I can get. The woman is number one on my "wanna bone that" list. As a bonus, she's a great actress if she is given decent material, but V has become the worst kind of tv sci-fi dreck. Now I just hope they give her some indecent material, say a three-way with Anna and her daughter. And fuck Glee. I won't watch any show that even acknowledges the existence of Madonna. Unless it stars Elizabeth Mitchell doing Connie Britton (who is number 2 on my "wanna bone that" list.) I need to be alone now.
April 28, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST
most revelations on this season have been predicted accurately by fans... we are basically just waiting for them to unravel. I won't be surprised if the island is actually a purgatory. I know the creators shot down this theory, but who knows?
April 28, 2010, 11:53 a.m. CST
Is a pretty good show. Olyphant is maybe the most charismatic actor on television. It is much better than most of the drivel on the tube.
April 28, 2010, 1:02 p.m. CST
by Jack Burton
No one has abandoned LOST, it's just all time shifted. I watch very few programs live anymore due to my work schedule. I don't know any LOST fan that isn't loving the hell out of this final season so the haters can go jump up their ass. Every episode has been a big one, this is the best season yet. V I'm recording but in no hurry to catch up. Totally fell out with that one for many of the same reasons you all have said. Justified rocks though. It's not to SoA or Shield level, but it is still solid stuff. Looking forward to watching last night's episode tonight.
April 28, 2010, 1:38 p.m. CST
Will I be screwed up for next week? BTW, the best title sequence (great song) since True Blood to focus on Southern foreboding.
April 28, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST
A lot of good stuff happens. Maybe the best episode since the premiere, probably second best. It's also one of the continuity heavy ones, not a crime of the week episode at all. I would recommend trying to find it online, or catch it when they reshow it (I think its on again Friday night?) before next week.
April 28, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST
Every week, it shows flashes of brilliance with political commentary, but doesn't go through with it. Universal health, manipulating the media, blue energy, exploiting the tsunami I mean monsoon. The problem is that it mentions these things and then goes back to being, as someone mentioned, a cop drama. <p> Basically, it's The 4400 without Billy Campbell as Jordan Collier.
April 28, 2010, 2:47 p.m. CST
"Waaah, we're all beautiful exactly the way we are and don't have to change." <p> "Waaah, my straight dad would rather have a conversation with another guy who shares interests with him rather than me who constantly talks about how being different from him is good." <p> "But April, you suck and need to change because you drink a lot and thus aren't living up to your potential, and, even though we previously wrote you out and found a decent reason to bring you back because we acknowledge how awesome the actress that plays you is, we're going to write you out again for no good reason." <p> "Most important, Sue, we know you're the only character that wants to be successful and good, but we're going to mock you for doing so, constantly insinuating that you are racist, intolerant, ignorant, opportunistic, and a borderline sociopath. Dr. Cox will be so proud when you eventually bottom out and show that under that gruff exterior is just a wounded duck who wants to be loved." <p> After the NPH and Whedon episode, I'm done with this show. (Unless they make Chenoweth is a regular in S2.)
April 28, 2010, 3:14 p.m. CST
Leroy Jethro Tibbs is a badass with a deadpan sense of humor. You have to be badass to pull off the name Jethro. Much less being a white guy named Leroy Tibbs.<br /><br />Tony is a movie geek, always referencing films and doing imitations. McGee is a computer geek who writes mystery novels under a pseudonym. Abby is an overcaffeinated goofy tatooed Goth Chick. Ziva is a hot chick who kicks ass. Throw in a coroner named "Ducky" who was in THE MAN FROM UNCLE and THE GREAT ESCAPE and you have the geekiest fucking show on Television.<br /><br />And it's a huge mainstream hit? In its 7th Season? If anything is a sign of the mainstreaming of Geek Culture it's NCIS.
April 28, 2010, 4:02 p.m. CST
this season. Not that it hasn't been entertaining, it just feels like they're waiting to get on with the end.
April 28, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST
The writing and banter is so, so, so, so close. And having Krause in there certainly doesn't help.
April 28, 2010, 4:16 p.m. CST
As does Treme. This week's was good, but last week was a reminder that Graham Yost should probably just be writing all of Justified.
April 28, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST
they said while back they had the story for the final season from the beginning, well I'm guessing they meant the story for the finale itself, because most of these season has been people walking to places on the Island, then walking back again. Its still good, but not that great. Oh and blowing up Ilana was just a waste
April 28, 2010, 4:33 p.m. CST
I am a fan of the original V, and a science fiction fan in general. Although the modern V isn't as effective as Kenneth Johnson's original miniseries, I still find it pretty entertaining. But don't take my word for it, try checking it out for yourself. Just passing judgement on something without watching it is just about as bad as not "taking a critical look" at things as you say. Got all that, champ?
April 28, 2010, 5:20 p.m. CST
...but FF is cool...
April 28, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST
...go back and forth across the island (or leave it and come back). Why do you think Miles said this in S5: <p> "Or maybe when we get there you'll want to go back to the Orchid again and then when that gets boring we can head back to the beach. It's the only two plans you people have."
April 28, 2010, 7:27 p.m. CST
I never said I didn't watch it. I've watched it. Every episode up until the last two when I finally gave up because its so god damn terrible. And even then I saw like half of last nights episode. Its not a good show. That's an informed judgment of my own.
April 28, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST
Really? I'm pretty sure they've also shown you the past present and future of the characters as well as effects of the island to the mainland.
April 28, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST
Seriously. V ain't great, but pick on the truly crappy sci-fi offering.
April 28, 2010, 10 p.m. CST
It's a decent show. If you don't like sci-fi and can see your beef.Iy your main thing is carbon copy crime dramas or laugh-tracked sitcoms,V wont be your cup of tea. I like it. There's not much sci-fi on t.v. right now. Joel Gresch as father jack showed a little Tom '4400' Baldwin with the gunplay last night. I think the level of anger towards decent shows gets amped up too high by talk-backers.
April 28, 2010, 11:22 p.m. CST
There is nothing wrong with the show that a little commitment to a good story couldn't fix, but sci-fi is not something networks truly get behind. </p> <p>If you recall, the original four episodes (before the hiatus) were excellent, but before they aired, ABC was terrified it would bomb... afraid of the very things that made it so good. So they got rid of the show-runner and turned it into a cop show. While it was getting decent ratings, behind the scenes, they were already moving in a different (safer) direction.</p>
April 29, 2010, 12:29 a.m. CST
And if so, you really question whether the show has accepted and embraced the "gay themed" label? This week the gay kid got the A plot, two background character cheerleaders are holding hands and making eyes at each other, Sue is constantly calling Will gay. Even the Asian girl who was lesbian in the pilot until they needed her to be the wheelchair kid's girlfriend is shown sitting between him and another girl and rolling her eyes back and forth between them during a love song. Hey, it's not like every character is gay and all they do is sing about being gay. I'm just saying the show is stepping in to fill the gap left by previous shows like Will & Grace and Ugly Betty. And unlike the Eric Cartman clones who use gay as a generic insult, I'm saying that it's a Good Thing.
April 29, 2010, 12:34 a.m. CST
Seriously. There are virtually NO sci fi elements in the show. There are space ships. And aliens. But the ships might as well be any location, because the fact that they are ships is never relevant to the plot. And the aliens could be ANY terrorist group at this point, because honestly, there is very very little "alien" about them. <p> I like SciFi. But V isn't it.
April 29, 2010, 12:35 a.m. CST
It's genuinely not a decent show. It takes an interesting premise and fails to do anything about it. Everything is dull, forced, and boring. People are bothered because -- shit, it's an ALIEN INVASION story. Except it's not, it's a cop drama with alien leanings. If you love it then enjoy it -- it has been bleeding out ratings since the very first episode (pre-hiatus). I don't think it will be picked up again.
April 29, 2010, 2:32 a.m. CST
basically cuz im waiting for liz mitchell to show me boob<p> and im sorry, but i dont get it<P>so the only alien that knows why the aliens are really there is their queen?<P> i dont feel the same fear, dread and anger that i did when watching the original...i dont care about any of the characters...in fact, i pretty much hate them all<p> for example, tonite we are told that we are finally gonna see one of the soldiers...a killing machine...lo and behold, he looks like everyone else...and what about the mess he was gonna leave with all that wanton destruction...a little blood aint much of a mess<p> and how about the tv drama cliche of the heroes arriving just in the nick of time, but only soon enough to save the reg cast members, not this week's kills of the week<p> and when will they ever cast a tv news anchor that sounds like one?<p> but i still want to know...what is the point? <P>bsg had a point...political commentary masked in a scifi show<p>v's big political commentary...beware universal health care....scary