April 26, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST
by bat fastard
April 26, 2010, 4:14 p.m. CST
by spud mcspud
April 26, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST
April 26, 2010, 4:22 p.m. CST
by spud mcspud
Fuck all that nonsense - and Heather nailed the problem with the remake - now it's all about Freddy and fuck all to do with the characters. You liked and identified with Nancy because she was REAL - not an airhead bib-tittied bimbo with no personality, but the archetypal girl next door: pretty but not a supermodel, smart but not a genius, brave but not a superhero, capable but not MacGyver. She was the person we all thought we'd be if we were i that situation - not who we'd WISH to be, but who we WOULD be: the ordinary person who finds hidden reserves of strength in extraordinary circumstances. Plus, I guarantee Heather is a way better actress than the new Nancy will be.<P> I can't wait for this doc to come out on DVD - because it's a movie made by people who actually fucking CARE about the ELM ST legacy, not people who see half-decent opening weekend bank out of it and nothing else, creative endeavours included. Fucking hacks. I hope this remake sinks PLATINUM DUNES, though we all know we won't be that lucky.
April 26, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST
And Heather is really great in it. Brilliant movie. Looking very forward to this doc.
April 26, 2010, 5:05 p.m. CST
by Nick Michalak
HIS NAME WAS JASON sucked! Gave no new nsight into any of the films. After years of information scouring on the internet, and the F13 DVD box set, there's hardly anything new to say about those films. They're not that complex. I sold mine off quick. Waste of money. I would hope that ELM STREET would garner better results.
April 26, 2010, 5:21 p.m. CST
You guys seem set for AICN to get gangbanged by Platinum Dunes - again.
April 26, 2010, 5:30 p.m. CST
i wanna see it but don't wantto wait or pay for it, is it on torrent yet??
April 26, 2010, 5:37 p.m. CST
I think Jamie Lee Curtis blazed that trail in Halloween.
April 26, 2010, 5:54 p.m. CST
Hey, I should write one of these movies.
April 26, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST
Never a bad thing. Great to see her carrying on with the film in this way, and really hope it's a big success. I'll be buying it for sure.
April 26, 2010, 6:18 p.m. CST
by Bouncy X
the Jason doc was a result of meddling, this Elm Street one was a complete independetly made thing so they got to do what they wanted. as a result the documentary itself is 4hrs long, and thats not counting the other 4hrs worth of extras on the 2nd disc. so its definately worth a buy if you're a fan of the series.
April 26, 2010, 6:25 p.m. CST
Show some respect to an icon, you shmucks.
April 26, 2010, 6:27 p.m. CST
by Bouncy X
Laurie didnt refuse to be a victim, she was a victim from the moment she saw him. she's whimpering and crying and trying to hide and run away the whole time. now in H20 she finally decided enough is enough and went after him sure but in the original, she's just the typical horror female victim.
April 26, 2010, 6:39 p.m. CST
I had a huge thing for her when I was a kid back in the 80's. That whole "girl next door" vibe she had was killer hot!
April 26, 2010, 6:41 p.m. CST
by Judge Briggs
Seriously, that may be one of the gayest movies ever made! (Not that there is anything wrong with that).
April 26, 2010, 6:49 p.m. CST
April 26, 2010, 6:49 p.m. CST
I'd be curious to see how she looks these days. Her 3 Elm Street movies (1,3, and New Nightmare) were my favs, with 4 rounding out the ones I can still watch.
April 26, 2010, 6:50 p.m. CST
but mainly because I got a free ticket inside the original's blu ray release.
April 26, 2010, 6:58 p.m. CST
Heather's commentary on the project was most interesting, and I definitely want to check out the doc when I get a chance. And unless God is unmerciful, I bet she's still quite the hottie. Don't expect to see anyone near her calibre in this diarrhea from Mr. Bay and his lackeys. Doesn't someone need some slow motion explosions somewhere? Oh, and no disrespect to Mr. Haley; he's bad ass. I don't blame him for taking the opportunity. But his paycheck won't have my $10 in it, and neither will Michael fucking Bay's. In other news, I'm hosting a Nightmare party on Friday, when the abomination is released. Friends are going to get together, have a few drinks, and watch Nightmare 1 and 3 and reminisce about how awesome the 80's were. I suggest you guys do the same. Oh, and if anyone wants to join the cause, check out the Facebook page "There's only one Freddy Krueger! Do NOT support the remake!"
April 26, 2010, 7:23 p.m. CST
I actually quite like Langenkamp in the movie. It's not as if she blows me away with her pure thespian power but she's easily sympathetic in the film which is key for a lead in a horror flick. Maybe because she wears pink in every scene. And she looks quite good. Next up: skipping straight to part 3 Dream Warriors and ending off with New Nightmare. I know she's in both of those. I think.
April 26, 2010, 7:26 p.m. CST
Is probably the best scene in the movie. The last 30 or so minutes of H20 is pretty damn good. *Laurie grabs a fireaxe and stomps through the town* MICHAEL!!!! Then she chops the fucker's head off. that's how you end a franchise, yo. Yeah, then Halloween: Resurrection came out but who cares? Laurie finally won. And in middle age, too. Badass.
April 26, 2010, 7:33 p.m. CST
... are the only NIGHTMAREs that matter.
April 26, 2010, 7:44 p.m. CST
that i did't know she was in the Nightmare movies till after i saw her in the ABC sitcom Just the Ten of Us? What? I was like 11 and Elm Street movies were hard R.
April 26, 2010, 7:48 p.m. CST
by Rocco Curioso
April 26, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST
....but saying the three Langenkamp movies are the only ones that matter is just plain wrong. Nightmare 2 was batshit insane - and the pool party scene with Freddy in the real world stalking and killing was awesome, had real atmosphere. As a film it had faults but overall was a great follow-up. And yeah, Nightmare 4 was as far as I'm concerned the last good Elm Street movie until New Nightmare...and now. The only bad Elm Streets were 5 and Freddy's Dead - both excrement, no doubt. But don't be disrespectful of 2 and 4. They had faults but were terrific movies. Englund was awesome in all of the first four.
April 26, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST
I know I am, of course, biased in saying this (since I'm one of the producers of this documentary)...but, even though the strongest sequels are "Dream Warriors" and "New Nightmare", I feel even some of the "weaker entries" had some good things to offer in terms of visuals, effects, etc. And, I absolutely love "F V J". Flame on.
April 26, 2010, 8:19 p.m. CST
Alien was released in '79 Beaks. Get your shit straight. But I mean Nancy's okay too.
April 26, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST
Think you've got a guaranteed success, you've definately got my money anyway. Can't say we will agree on FvsJ though......but Elm Street 1 to 4 plus New Nightmare are the strongest horror franchise ever seen. I'm interested to see where Haley takes Freddy in the new movie...and I have to admit I love the footage shown so far of the nightmare sequence blending with what's happening in reality - very well done - but one thing I know is the cast for the new movie apart from Haley can't hold a candle to the original. Jeez, what a perfect movie. Can't wait for your documentary to hit the shelves.
April 26, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST
by The Guy Who Slept Through Everything.
Best ELM STREET sequel.
April 26, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST
Damn that pic makes me feel old!
April 26, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST
My teen-aged self got a lot of use out of my VCR's pause button cuz of that movie, wink wink.
April 26, 2010, 8:56 p.m. CST
I know what I'm googling when I get back from work. Horray!
April 26, 2010, 9:12 p.m. CST
And i doubt that it will be better. We've had lots ofremakes that sucked, or maybe even weren't that bad - Kong, Apes, TCM, Invaders from Mars, War of the Worlds etc, etc. The only films that seem to take away from the originals are the remakes that are, hands down, superior - theThing and the Fly. Every other one fades away, and the original stands that much taller because it was challenged and never touched. The most I can hope for in the remake is something like the 70s Body Snatchers, which stood next to, but never supplanted, the original.
April 26, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST
Outside of fashion, hairstyles and some synth music, it still holds up. This is definately the one they'll remember Craven for.
April 26, 2010, 9:35 p.m. CST
I just ordered it but not from that site. Sorry but a dinky poster signed by Heather just isn't that special.<p><p>Amazon pre-order is $7.50 less.
April 26, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST
I've been writing down all of my nightmares fr the last two years. I still have Freddy nightmares once in a great moon. The first in 10 years came the night before I saw THE LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT at the CHI screening. The 4th was the first I saw as a kid. Late night on tv. I started my own mirror colage like in the film of family and friends which spun out of control and eventually took up all of my wall space in the room as a teen. I'm so glad they are realesing NEVER SLEEP AGAIN. I'm going to use it like I did with HIS NAME WAS JASON. I figure I'll write it out. And some day I'll be able to pitch it to SHAYE and JASON to CUMMINGHAM when they are complete.
April 26, 2010, 9:51 p.m. CST
Mr. Beaks. I imagine you snapping out your wrist to delicately and non-sexually touch her knee and smirking like a cat when you say this. Please tell me that is exactly what happened. If you have a John Waters mustache I might have to proposition you.<p>THAT disturbing aside out of the way... there is good to be hand in all the NIGHTMAREs. I wrote a paper on it. My favourite of the lesser ones is Part 2 - because it's the 'gay' NIGHTMARE. You can successfully do a reading of that film as analogous to the struggle of understanding and accepting one's own homosexuality. It is a really, really interesting film.
April 26, 2010, 9:54 p.m. CST
April 26, 2010, 10:04 p.m. CST
Self hatred is no good, fella. Let it go, burst out of that closet and embrace your inner Liberace. You know you want to.
April 26, 2010, 10:06 p.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
April 26, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST
True, Amazon is offering it for less... But if you order through them you also have to pay shipping, sales tax, you don't get the autographed Langenkamp poster, and you don't get entered into the chance to win the Teaser poster autographed by over 80 participants in the NOES series (including Craven and Englund).
April 26, 2010, 10:46 p.m. CST
Will Freddy's tongue come out of an IPhone in the remake?
April 26, 2010, 10:52 p.m. CST
I loved the way Freddy killed him off as he passed out listening to his headphones.
April 26, 2010, 11:04 p.m. CST
That still cracks me up. First, he died as Glenn in #1 and then he died, as himself, in #6. I always respected that he never forgot where he started. Some people disassociate themselves from stuff like this once they get their first mainstream hit. Nice that he'd revisit the series, even if it was in one of the worst installments.
April 26, 2010, 11:17 p.m. CST
She's not 19 anymore and has certainly aged as well as any fair skinned 45 year old woman would, but she's definitely still doable. Definitely aging better than Activia Lee Curtis.<p> <p>Langekamp's still got that very natural, girl next door thing going for her. None of that creepy, unnatural botox/surgery that you see in gynosaurs like Helen Hunt, Heather Locklear, or Linda Hamilton.
April 27, 2010, 12:20 a.m. CST
April 27, 2010, 12:23 a.m. CST
There's a possibility that it will get a DVD release in December. This is pretty big news. I would have expected a write-up from you, Beaks. Not a fan? Or never got a chance to see the 4 hour cut?
April 27, 2010, 12:42 a.m. CST
I meant my comments about FRIGHT NIGHT and ANOES2 as sheer compliment. Anyone familiar with my talkback history knows I am a gay fan.
April 27, 2010, 1:21 a.m. CST
There's absolutely positively no chance of this film diluting the original.
April 27, 2010, 1:37 a.m. CST
by The Guy Who Slept Through Everything.
On the DVD commentary to NEW NIGHTMARE Craven said he had intended to ask Depp about making an appearance in the film, specially as himself during the funeral scene. But he thought he was too well known and wouldn't accept it, so he never asked him. Then after the films release, Craven ran into Depp after not seeing him since the first NIGHTMARE and mentioned he wanted him to make a cameo and Depp said he would have.
April 27, 2010, 2:21 a.m. CST
I was still a kid when that one came out, and that movie scared the fucking shit out of me. The theme of Freddy possessing someone in their dreams in order to make them do bad things in the real world was scary as hell. And Freddy was as cold if not more so than he was in the original. No jokes. Fucking with Jesses head, toying around with him and making him a danger to his family and friends. It was very effective. Time opens your eyes and yes Jesse is a very sexually repressed coming of age male who is girl shy. His coach is without a doubt an angry gay man and his jock friend might be repressed as well. I always identified Jesse as being the way he was because he's the same sort of geek Arnie was in Christine before the car game him a sense of pride. He wasn't a player. When he finally gets a girl- Freddy becomes a part of his life and he fucks it all up.
April 27, 2010, 2:28 a.m. CST
I walked out. caught it on tv late one night and thought it was still shit.
April 27, 2010, 2:35 a.m. CST
... elm street 2 & 5 that were terrible. 6 was good until they gimmicked in the 3D climax. i still have my poxy old red and blue glasses.
April 27, 2010, 3:20 a.m. CST
by Bodenland Unbound
...a nice link to the original franchise posters art, thousand times better than the one they have done for the remake!
April 27, 2010, 5:43 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
I am now blowing Weetabix and tea down my nose while trying not to laugh. Fucking funny stuff, but I gotta stop reading TBs while eating my brunch ;D
April 27, 2010, 5:44 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
...If I had to suffer that shit back in the mid 90s, so should the next generation. Michael Bay will be PISSED that they already did a 3D ELM ST before his whacked out hack ass got to the party.
April 27, 2010, 7:02 a.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
...was that Heather Langenkamp was portrayed as this busy, popular actress with this lavish Bevery Hills mansion and assistants and shit, when in real life, I can't think of a SINGLE MOVIE she's been in aside from her three Nightmare flicks. Do even flash-in-the-pan 80s slasher-movie starlets get to live in mansions that cost about $30 million?
April 27, 2010, 8:22 a.m. CST
by Bouncy X
if you get the complete series collection. but it doesn't change the fact that movie is just terrible and bad on every single level imaginable. i'm a HUGE Nightmare fan and i can stand watching 2 and 5 no problem but whenever i try and give 6 a chance, i turn it off after 20mins or so..its just sooo bad and wrong and insulting. Freddy himself has a terrible voice, not sure why they didnt use the vocal effect from 4 and 5 and the tv series because that voice was great. and then his makeup, it looked like it wasn't even finished. and to think it was done by the same guy who did the original...must have passed it off to his assistants or something. lol
April 27, 2010, 8:31 a.m. CST
Heather wasn't portrayed that way in NEW NIGHTMARE. She was portrayed as an actress who was trying to "get back on the horse", as her husband Chase put it: it was pretty clear in the film that she wasn't working a lot but wanted to start working again. Also, they didn't live in a "Bevery Hills mansion"; they lived in a modest (for LA standards) home in the Valley. As far as assistants, she didn't have one...only a babysitter named Julie. Go back and check the film out again...
April 27, 2010, 10:06 a.m. CST
But your mother appreciated the extra time I took so all is well.
April 27, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST
April 27, 2010, 4:36 p.m. CST
And i had a crush on her when i saw her in A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET. She realyl is one of the finest final girls in slash history, to rival Jamie Lee Curtis in Halloween. Langenkamp class of final girl is so rarefied, that it took last year's THE HOUSE OF THE DEVIL to find a equaly memorable final girl in the actress Jocelin Donahue.
April 27, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST
I agree, friend. H20 was just an Ok movie, but the moment Laurie grabs the axe and says "this far no futher" and goes after Michael Meyers, the movie jumped up in the steps of quality and became badass. Too bad the movie wasn't all like that, but at least it did something most movies fail to achieve: getting better as they near the end.
April 27, 2010, 4:48 p.m. CST
That's the fucking movie that was directed by that miserable peice of shit hack Renny Fucking Harlin. Fuck Harlin and fuck his movie. Fuck' em.
April 27, 2010, 10:26 p.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
Honestly...all Harlin movies up through Cliffhanger were pretty good (and Die Hard 2 is legitimately great), but once filmmakers "go bad", most geeks tend to bitch that they were ALWAYS horrible. Yes, the man made Deep Blue Sea, The Covenant and Cutthroat Island, but his early films were quality and well-directed as HELL. Nightmares 1, 3 and 4 form a pretty good "trilogy" within the larger series (despite Patricia Arquette not reprising her role from the third movie in 4...why, I have no idea).
April 27, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
April 28, 2010, 12:41 a.m. CST
...in the role. Plus she did a wicked opening song to that flick. Nightmare 4 was awesome.
April 28, 2010, 1:25 a.m. CST
I was wondering if anyone knew her current fan-mail address... I loved her in the Nightmare series and I would really like to write her my appreciation of her acting and the inspiration she gave me.
April 28, 2010, 1:38 a.m. CST
I preferred Arquette. <p> <p> For one thing, her acting was clearly a touch better than the other B actors. Not that she was given great lines, but she delivered them well enough that it didn't look like "good" porn acting. That's what bothered me the most about Tuesday Knight. She only had a handful of minutes to work with in 4 and managed to Shatner every scene she was in.<p> <p> I also thought that Arquette was hotter. She had a great rack and none of the fat that'd plague her later on in Medium and a face that made her look like a softer, prettier version of Rosanna. Comparatively, Tuesday Knight was built like a candy apple. Big head, thin body, and not much going on below the neck. They tried to fake it with her (eg. the beach scene), but she looked like a weird anime character.<p> <p> I do have to give it up to Knight for that kick-ass "Nightmare" title track. It always seems to get play on my iPod whenever I'm itching to hear movie themed stuff.<p> <p> As for Asimov's Harlin hatin'.... Die Hard 2 forgives all of the other crap he's done later on. Plus, he could film nothing but gay midget snuff musicals for the next 10 years and I'd still think, "At least it's not a Uwe Boll `film'."<p> <p> I don't necessarily think that film makers "go bad" per se. Some do. There's no doubting that. Still, I think that many of these "gone bad" creators are people looking to grow in new ways, but somehow never find their footing. <p> <p> Besides, it could be worse. The only thing worse than a "gone bad" creator is one who made one great movie and built a whole career by remixing it. I'd gladly take an admittedly deeply flawed Harlin than a Tim Burton or Kevin Smith. There's nothing wrong with either. Fans seem to love them. Still, I always feel that they're just remaking the same movies over and over and over. Watching a Tim Burton movie is like listening to an Aerosmith record. You like what you're hearing, but you can't shake the uneasy feeling of familiarity. Street Fighter 2. Street Fighter 2 Championship Edition. Super Street Fighter 2. <p> <p> I'll sooner take an artist willing to leave their comfort zone than one so limited by it. That's my main issue with M. Night Shyamalamadingdong. He found a formula and beat it to death.
April 28, 2010, 1:50 a.m. CST
And I think I like it even more than the first one, basically I think it has a more interesting story than the first one because since we all know the beats of the original Nightmare just through pop culture osmosis that this one has a different way to present Freddy, production values are a bit better, and it's basically One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest plus Freddy Kruger. I also know that Nancy bites it in this one (was reading about the development of it on wiki and they have it listed in the writing section, which is kind of a bummer but I should have known better, frankly) which does make me a little sad but she's in another movie so that's okay.
April 28, 2010, 1:50 a.m. CST
Simple. She was pregnant. Dream Warriors was 1987. She had her 1st kid in 1988, same year as Dream Master. <p> <p> Seeing as how, Newline was riding high on NoES3, which made $44M on a $5M budget, they were probably eager to push NoES4 through to market ASAP. No way could Arquette reprise her role when, in the year between flicks, she got knocked up.
April 28, 2010, 4:05 a.m. CST
You have a fucked up notion of stylish, if i may say so. And EVERY movie that Reny Harlin made are all shit. Every single one of them. EVERYONE! Pure crap shit! The fucker should had been a cobbler. Or a reindeer shit sweeper. Anything but a director.
April 28, 2010, 4:40 a.m. CST
And to make things wros,t they hired motherfucking shitty hackboy fuckass Renny fucking Harlin. Because, like, there was nobody else available, right?<br><br>You guys know how Renny Running Shit Harlin ever got a career? It wasn't talent, because he hasn't any. It was because he throw parties. Yes, parties is the foundation of Fucking Harlin. He can go fuck himself up his fucking ass! Fuck him!
April 28, 2010, 5:31 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
Come ON! PRISON, ELM ST 4, DIE HARD 2, CLIFFHANGER, CUTTHROAT ISLAND, THE LONG KISS GOODNIGHT, DEEP BLUE SEA... Each and every one of those movies is a tried-and-tested Saturday night pizza-and-beer movie. No question.<P> Stop expecting everything to be Shakespeare, and learn to enjoy the little things! Renny Harlin is by no means a Paul WS Anderson, or a Brett Ratner, or an (God save us!) Uwe Boll...
April 28, 2010, 6:01 a.m. CST
Just received by DVD of THE HOUSE OF THE DEVIL.- This is one very cool, very well made little horror movie. It's a throwback to the slasher/demon movies of the early 80s. So much so, the story itself is set in 1983. The lead actress is a revelation, one of the most charming and cute final girl in the history of horror.
April 28, 2010, 6:22 a.m. CST
Guilty pleasure? Fuck the guilt! It's your guilt, not mine. The fucker is a fucking desease! The fucker and his parties, it means that he stole movie jobs from other, more talented directors who were even in more need then that fucking assclown. Fuck Renny Fucking Shit Harlin. that motherfucker can go fuck himself in his fucking ass and shove his fucking pudrid movies up his ass. Fuck Renny Harlin. Fuck that fucker. I tell you, until Michael Shit Bay showed up, Renny Fucking Harlin was the motherfucker "director" i most hated. Fuck that asshole!
April 28, 2010, 6:38 a.m. CST
FUCK ELM STREET FOR: THE SHIT MASTER; SHIT HARD 2: SHIT HARDER; THE LONG KISS MY ASS GOODBYE; SHITROOT ISLAND; DEEP SEA OF SHIT; THE RETARD BULLSHIT OF FUCK FORLAINE; SHITHANGER; MINDSHITERS...<br><br>Fucking Harlin Fuckass Harlin's career is a true list of horrors! That fucking ass should had been a fisherman, or a gay gigollo. Anything but a filmmaker. Fucking ass! PRISON is an OK movie, but it came out that way by mistake, and the sheer powers of awesomeness of Viggo Mortenssen.
April 28, 2010, 9:31 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
Are you just jealous because he got to put it to Geena Davis on a regular basis??<P> I am...
April 28, 2010, 9:40 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
...And you know what the biggest problem is with the remake (Yes, I'm trying to single one out from the millions it has)?<P> SUBTLETY.<P> As in, the remake has none. In the clips and trailers I've seen, the subtly frightening image of Freddy leering over Nancy from out of the bedroom wall in the original becomes a swooping nazgul thing straight from THE FRIGHTENERS - and it's CGI, so is instantly rendered unscary. The Tina death in the original is still awesome in its use of effective SFX and a great performance by someone you felt sorry for - the shots in the remake trailer look like (a) Bayer is trying to rip off THE EXORCIST (levitating girl in crucifix pose? DONE!) and (b) it's trying too hard to be iconic and stylish! How the fuck do you get a bedroom to be lit that way anyway? Aren't we mean to see Tina die in REAL life, not in the dreamworld? And the classroom scene - great in the original for the fact that you don't notice the real give way to the dream, it's the way the kid speaking in class starts to whisper in that frightening voice. Remake version? A fucking EXPLOSION of ash appears and drenches the class, while everyone else disappears and Freddy starts clawing at the blackboard.<P> At the risk of turning AICN into a bunch of old fucks moaning about how the younger generation don't understand horror because they don't understand slow burns and subtlety - THE FUCKING YOUNGER GENERATION FUCKING SUCK BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND SLOW BURNS AND SUBTLETY!<p> This remake looks more and more like a sure-fire EPIC FUCKING FAIL...
April 28, 2010, 9:42 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
Bay said to them, "We need the next generation of ME! We need the hottest, most visual, most fucking addicted to wham-bam-coke-me-ma'am fucking fast cutting explosive fucking FILM-MAKER WE HAVE EVER SEEN!! Who you fuckers got me, huh?"<P> "Samuel Bayer, sir."<P> "Bayer?? As in, I'm Bay - but he's fucking BAYER?? BAYER THAN BAY???"<P> "Yes, sir."<P> "Hire that bitch! And bring me a mountain of blow and a sweet fuckin' ass to do it off of!!"<P> **death rattle of decent blockbuster movie-making**
April 28, 2010, 9:44 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
--I heard they're gonna get Abrams to just produce STAR TREK II. Renny Harlin to direct.Viggo Mortensen as Khan.<P> Lost Jarv is hard at work on the script as we speak...
April 28, 2010, 11:49 a.m. CST
If i'm going to be jealous of a filmmaker, i'll be about a good filmmaker, like Christopher Nolan, not a fucking hack like Renny Shit Harlin.
April 28, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST
Looks like STAR TREK TOO is going to be exactly like the first, then. The script is being handled by a retard, so no changes there.
April 28, 2010, 11:59 a.m. CST
"More Bay Than Bay", that's their motto.<br><br>And when you watch the Bayer movie, you will need a Bayer Aspirin.
April 28, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST
You have pointed out what is the most important aspect of the original NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET: the likability fo the characters, specially the lead character Nancy. As you well said, that's the movie's secret weapon. They had in the movie characters we like. And if we like the characters, their fate matters,a dn thus, the movie is far more effective. All points you very well put. and as you said, i see in nothing in the trailer that this character likability will be in the remake. If anything, i ssupect they will go the same route as the futher sequels, the emphasis will be on Freddy. Yes, they might try to portait Freddy as a real monster, but still the emphasis will be in him, and not on Nancy or any of his friends or family.<br><br>In the original, i cared about her friends, i cared about her mother and father, but most ofalll, and more important of all, i cared about Nancy. It's why the movie worked for me. And this remake, it doesn't bode well, does it?
April 28, 2010, 3:27 p.m. CST
by spud mcspud
It IS the character moments that have us investing in the kids who are dying, rather than in Freddy - the little moments like Glen (Depp) calling his Mom with the sound FX tape in the background, and it going wrong and him having to explain away the gunfire noises - it's funny, it's relateable, and we like Glen, Tina and Nancy all because of that. Hell, we get that Rod is an asshole, but we get that Freddy is way scarier than Rod Lane, and so when Rod dies, we feel bad for him - he just got framed for Tina's murder, then Freddy gets him. These kids don't DESERVE what Freddy is going to do to them - and that's what makes us root for them. By the time ELM ST 4 came round, you're cheering Freddy on to kill these uncharismatic, vacant, stereotypical twats. And you're right - they've gone the casting-Abercrombie-and-Fitch-model-types route, which will guarantee (a) zero audience sympathy for ANY of these vacant, self-absorbed WASP fucks, and (b) we're cheering for Freddy. Which squarely puts this reboot in the shit-Elm-St-movies category. So fuck Bay, fuck Platinum Dunes, and fuck that hack reboot. FUCK THEM ALL!!!
April 28, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST
It had the most sympathetic bunch of kids since the original - I wasn't cheering for Freddy to kill them. I will say though that by 3 and 4 it was becoming more of an emphasis about how Freddy killed someone rather than the loss of the character itself - something that reduced the series to self parody in 5 and 6 (the only two I don't like and can't watch as it genuinely hurts what they did to the series). The problem with the emphasis on Fred and the kills was inevitable after the success of the first movie, after the very creation of an iconic movie monster - by definition, we want to see more of him so the studios slide down the road of more and more presence, more making him appealing to the viewer. Part of it is us too - we want to relate to Freddy more than we want to relate to his victims - because who wants to be a victim? So we identify more with Freddy as the series goes on and the mood shifts from the emphasis being on Nancy kicking his ass, as in the first. There we genuinely root for her to win. In the following movies, we can like the kids and can hope they win out - but at the same time, we want more of Fred Kreuger which mean ultimately that those kids have to lose. And in a horror franchise it just means a slide to more inventive death scenes as opposed to better characterisation and consistency. I love the first 4 Elm Street movies, and New Nightmare, to death. Hate 5 and 6 with a passion. I don't think it looks like the new remake will have as good characterisation, or as good acting apart from Haley, as the original but I'm hoping it at least gets Freddy right - with Haley playing him, there's a damn good chance they didn't fuck it up. And if they've got the Freddy mix right, they can build a better sequel and so on.....I'd be very happy if this was the start of another 20 years of Krueger scaring the shit out of people.
April 28, 2010, 4:27 p.m. CST
That Shatner comment had me laughing hard, yeah you nailed her acting completely with that line but what can I say, she did it for me. Arquette just never appealed and Tuesday Knight to me, in those teen years, was one hot tomale. Plus that Nightmare track of hers stands out to me not only as a great, great song but also about the best, most fitting track to any horror movie from those years - except maybe my insane love for Brave New Love by Alien on The Blob soundtrack. Tangent? Yes I know, but no-one ever accused me of coherence. I'm hoping a part of this documentary covers the Tuesday Knight song and it's inclusion on the soundtrack to 4. Man, I can't wait for this docu to hit the shelves.
May 13, 2010, 6:35 p.m. CST
HEATHER LANGENKAMP thanks for the autograph, Love the artwork... Starting off WRITING the night with NEVER SLEEP AGAIN : The Elm Street Legacy...
May 13, 2010, 7:42 p.m. CST
A BLACK SCREEN until I'm done writing... Than watch it than the rest after I'm done.