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Mr. Beaks Stays Up Late With Heather Langenkamp, The Narrator And Exec. Producer Of NEVER SLEEP AGAIN: THE ELM STREET LEGACY!

While most of the chatter this week will be focused on the release of Platinum Dunes' A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET remake (in theaters this Friday), I'd like to turn your attention for the moment to NEVER SLEEP AGAIN: THE ELM STREET LEGACY, a brand new, two-disc documentary from the crack production team of Daniel Farrands, Andrew Kasch and Tommy Hutson. As they did with last year's HIS NAME WAS JASON: 30 YEARS OF FRIDAY THE 13TH, these three have assembled what they hope will be the definitive look back at one of the most successful horror franchises in film history. To accomplish this, they've interviewed as many members of the cast and crew of each installment as they could find, and rounded up a ton of behind-the-scenes footage, clips, storyboards and anything else that might illuminate why this series has endured for twenty-six years. As a fan of HIS NAME WAS JASON, I'm quite sure this will be a must-own DVD for all ELM STREET aficionados. To help get the word out about the DVD, I spent some time chatting with NEVER SLEEP AGAIN's narrator and executive producer, Heather Langenkamp, who, as the star of the classic first film (as well as DREAM WARRIORS and NEW NIGHTMARE), probably understands the ELM STREET phenomenon better than anyone not named Wes Craven or Robert Englund. In 1984, Langenkamp's Nancy Thompson was unique among slasher film "final girls" in that she refused to be a victim. Nancy fought back. As a result, Langenkamp has become an icon in the horror community, appearing at numerous conventions, participating in scores of retrospectives, and even producing her own documentary on the ELM STREET legacy, the forthcoming I AM NANCY (which is previewed on the NEVER SLEEP AGAIN DVD). As Langenkamp astutely notes in the below interview, A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET was as much a commentary on the plight of the American teenager in the divorce-happy 1980s as it was a gore-soaked horror flick. You were meant to root for the kids. Unfortunately, the rooting interest shifted to Freddy somewhere between the third and fourth films, at which point the series gradually turned into another random slasher franchise (before being partially redeemed by Craven's NEW NIGHTMARE). Before getting into our Q&A, you should know that if you pre-order NEVER SLEEP AGAIN from the official website, you will receive a 12"x18" copy of the above poster autographed by Ms. Langenkamp. You'll also be automatically entered to win one of three 27" x 40" NEVER SLEEP AGAIN posters signed by the cast and crew who participated in the documentary. And if you live in Los Angeles, there will be a special NEVER SLEEP AGAIN event on May 1st at Dark Delicacies in Burbank. Or you can just wait until the DVD streets on May 4th. Your call. And now, here's my interview with Freddy Krueger's worst nightmare...

Mr. Beaks: You've obviously revisited these films many, many times by now. How does this approach make it fresh for you?

Heather Langenkamp: Every five years, it seems like they come out with something to add to their DVDs. I've been a part of lots of those. Usually, they only have one or two actors, and perhaps Wes. Our approach on this was to find the people who don't usually get to have an opportunity to talk about their roles in these films, people who were very important in the making of the movie, but, for whatever reason, were never [interviewed]. The eighty-five or ninety people that are interviewed for this comprehensive look back on A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET... of course you have Wes Craven, Robert Englund and Bob Shaye, who are really the original creators. But then you have people who had pretty small parts, and people who wrote [the screenplays], and people who were special effects coordinators and makeup artists; you have all kinds of people who contributed to the making of the film. I'm hoping there are people out there who know they're not going to be an actor or director, but who might get a lot of inspiration from hearing about the more unchampioned heroes of the NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET series. I think there are a lot of people who are fascinated by how these movies are made.

Beaks: It's really been a progressive thing, getting into greater minutiae for the fans, because they've been going back as much as you have. This allows them to engage with the material in a new way as well.

Langenkamp: How many times have you watched NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET? Lots of people have watched it dozens and dozens of times, but every time you hear someone talk about their little contribution to filmmaking, it gives a real fresh understanding the next time you watch it. You can say, "Oh, I remember when [special makeup effects artist] David Miller talked about that." There's a lot of little anecdotes and personal stories that people get a big kick out of that have never been talked about before. A lot of the anecdotes that I remember... (Laughs) I'm afraid my part of it is going to be really boring because I have for twenty-five years had the opportunity to talk about the things we did. I'm probably not going to be the freshest interview on there; my memory is not as great as I wish it could be at times.

Beaks: Did your participation in this allow you to reconnect with people you hadn't seen in a while?

Langenkamp: I'm the executive producer, and our other producers, Tommy Hutson and Daniel Farrands - who's also the director with Andrew Kasch - they did the lion's share of getting the interviews. Thank god for Facebook and the internet; they really spent a lot of time tracking people down. Like Mark Patton [the lead of A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET PART 2: FREDDY'S REVENGE], who was actually living in Mexico. It was very difficult to get a hold of him. But once he found out about the project, we were happy to fly him to Los Angeles to give an interview. That was the way it was with dozens of people we got interviews from: we had to find them first - or find friends of them, and then ask the friend if they could contact them. It was kind of like a high school reunion from hell; you have over twenty-five years of alumni of the series that you want to track down. But we really felt like our momentum built over the six-month process, and we got more and more excited. I don't think we ever thought in the beginning that we would have this many contributors. And then you had, like, Charles Bernstein, who wrote the music for the original NIGHTMARE: not only did he give us an interview, he ended up writing the music for our opening sequence. The same with our poster art [by Matthew Joseph Peak, who illustrated the poster for the first film]: we actually have these people participating in the production of the DVD. It's more than we could've ever expected.

Beaks: Individually, with all the anecdotes you were getting out of these people, were there any stories that surprised you?

Langenkamp: Well, I don't want to give anything away! People should definitely get a copy of the DVD.

Beaks: Oh, just a taste!

Langenkamp: (Laughing) You'll see for yourself how many surprising new stories there are. What always surprised me is that people really treasure their opportunity to be in A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET. In the beginning, when we made the first A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET, we didn't really know what we were doing. We were all really young, and it's kind of naive. Horror hadn't really taken its place in American culture that it has today, so there was a little bit of a stigma attached to it being a horror movie. [For the actors], it was like, "Yeah, I know. I want to be over there and work with John Hughes, and try to get a TV series. But this will pay the bills." I think that's how a lot of people felt about getting jobs in the horror movie industry in the earlier part of the '80s. But with the success of Jason and Freddy and Michael Myers, I think everyone got really proud to be able to participate in one of these series - and the fans that I meet attest to that. They really love horror. I've grown in my participation and my pride of being a part of this, in the same way a lot the people who are interviewed in the documentary have. They all have wild stories. Jennifer Rubin... they're all really funny people, so there's a lot of humor. David Newsom, who plays my husband in [NEW NIGHTMARE], he makes a lot of fun of me. We all make fun of each other. And Robert Englund, of course, is the man with a million stories. His interview was so long; I think they gave him four or five hours of interview time. I'm not exactly what got extracted in the end, but his stories are all fantastic. I hope that it's new for people, and that they don't feel like anything's being rehashed too much. Everyone was really encouraged to dig deep and bring new things to their interviews.

Beaks: You know, you said something there - and I'm sure someone's already had this insight. I think what set ELM STREET apart at that time was that it played like a John Hughes horror film.

Langenkamp: Yeah, there was a real recognizability to the teenagers, and a real sensitivity to the plight of teenagers at that time. I think people who were really sensitive could sense that American society was letting down the American teenager, or that they were having to fend with themselves, what with the breakup of marriages and the education system starting to take a nosedive. Public schools were really crowded at the time. I think there was this general sense that, like, "Wow, teenagers aren't like they were in the '60s. We've kind of let them down." That was a real general sense to a lot of the movies that had teenagers in them. Like SIXTEEN CANDLES: they forget her birthday. Or FERRIS BUELLER: they're left on their own for this long period of time, and their teachers are really unsympathetic. I think they use the same formula in some ways with NIGHTMARE; I think we have these parents who have kind of checked out and aren't going to take what their kids have to say seriously. I do think the '80s was the period where that whole umbrella extended over the teenager movie in Hollywood.

Beaks: Is that something you're looking at with I AM NANCY?

Langenkamp: The thrust of I AM NANCY... I meet so many fans at the conventions, and I'm always really touched by how many people really love Nancy. They really look at her as an inspiration for... things they've dealt with in their own lives. Things that are as horrifying as being abused as a child to things that aren't quite as hard to handle, like having a bully in high school. But a lot of people - boys and girls - say, "You know, I looked at Nancy, and that helped me get through things that I was dealing with. She was such a strong heroine, and she faced her fears." All these great things they say about Nancy. So I juxtaposed those really warm feelings with the marketing and the growth of the "Freddy Mania" culture, which you see when you're at these conventions. The monsters-and-boogeymen thing, it's so driven by the tattoo culture and some elements of the new goth culture. It's all about Freddy and the little evil creatures, and creating teddy bears that are all dressed up like Jason. (Laughs) My real thought was "When did our culture start idolizing boogeymen, and try to sweep under the carpet the role of the hero?" It's not just in A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET. The role of the hero is actually kind of corny; it's a quaint notion. [I AM NANCY] is much more like a sociology report. I go through so many different historical periods, like from the '80s to today, where even in the cover art for A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET... it used to have that wonderful poster of Nancy on the front; now, the new editions only have Freddy and the glove. They're very stylized: it's all about Freddy, and the role of the heroic character has really been kind of moved onto the side. And yet with the fans it doesn't seem to have made a difference. It's this irony that I've observed. I love Nancy Thompson so much that I wanted to give her one more shout-out. Because what I see even happening with the remake is that Nancy is no longer even billed as the heroine of the movie. It's all Freddy. That's why I'm anxious to see the new movie: I want to see how the role of Nancy has changed in the last twenty-five years. The original Nancy Thompson was kind of groundbreaking in that she was female and she was kickass and very resourceful; she really attacked Freddy and went after him. I want to see if that's still her role in the twenty-first century. Or have we switched back to where it's just victim after victim?

Beaks: Are you concerned that the remake will be this generation's A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET, and that it will dilute the impact of the original?

Langenkamp: Definitely. I think it's going to dilute the impact of the original, and that does sadden me. I think the original... it was such a magical coming-together of Wes Craven hitting his stride as a filmmaker, and actually having some strong messages - not only philosophical messages, but he really layered that film with lots of intellectual ideas about the psyche, about how we deal with fear, our human response to fear, how each character represents different responses to fear. It's all very erudite because Wes was a professor, and... it's very clear that he did give those ideas a lot of thought. But when you make a film, you don't necessarily know those layers are there; it depends on how much of a scholar of [those ideas] that you are. I don't know if they'll take as much care in [exploring those ideas] in the remake. I don't think it matters that much to them. As a result, I think it will dilute the impact. But I think the remake will always stand out as the ninth movie that they made as an experiment - maybe it's successful, and maybe it's not successful. But I think it speaks to the strength of Freddy and, I think, Robert Englund that that character has captured our imagination in the way that it has.

Beaks: I'd like to also get your thoughts on the idea that the sequels, in turning Freddy into a quipster, are responsible for getting us to this remake.

Langenkamp: I think that a lot of Freddy's power has been sucked out of him; I don't think that he's the same horrible creature that he was in the beginning. He's become more palatable and marketable and cute - they make plushies of him. (Laughs) It takes twenty-five years to take a psychopathic child murderer to become palatable to society somehow - and it is because he uses humor. I mean, Robert is so naturally funny; he's so evilly funny I think that was really Robert written into the script at the beginning, and then [subsequent] writers tried to outdo the one before. Once Robert showed that this character could have this evil, sadistic humor... it doesn't seem to me how the character was written in the first one. And then in the second one... I can't really remember exactly when you first realize that Freddy can be funny. But in the third film almost every line is some sort of evil double entendre. Robert had a lot of that in him. That's for sure.

Beaks: So are you segueing into filmmaking now?

Langenkamp: I'm trying to segue into more filmmaking projects where I'm not the actor, where I'm either writing or directing or producing. But I did just act in this project called THE BUTTERFLY ROOM. I don't know if you know the actress Barbara Steele?

Beaks: Oh, yes.

Langenkamp: I play her daughter in a movie where she's extremely evil and horrible. And I am the daughter who is, like Nancy, trying to convince everyone that she is not this beautiful old woman as she presents herself, but that she has this [dark] past. I acted in that this year, and really rediscovered how much I love acting, so I hope I get to do more of that as well. You know, I slowed down my career a lot because I found it too difficult to do it all at once; I was terrible at juggling my family and work. So I'm one of those people who realized early on that you can't have it all. (Laughs) But what happens is that your kids leave, and then you're left with all of this wonderful time to be creative. I found that when I was trying to write and act and produce things and have children, I was just sad and miserable all the time. Now I realize I have all this energy and can apply myself to projects that I really love. The first project is ELM STREET LEGACY, and then I AM NANCY, and then [THE BUTTERFLY ROOM] will come out, and then we'll see where the chips fall! I hope something good happens. I have several projects that I'd love to get off the ground. But it's a really tough business here in Hollywood, as you know.



If anyone can survive Hollywood, it's the person who kicked Freddy Krueger's ass. Thanks, Heather! Faithfully submitted, Mr. Beaks

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  • April 26, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Heather Langenkamp

    by bat fastard

    Nice boobs

  • April 26, 2010, 4:14 p.m. CST

    FOURTH!!

    by spud mcspud

    Heh heh

  • April 26, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST

    A documentary about some shitty sequels?

    by RPLocke

  • April 26, 2010, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Now THIS is an ELM STREET movie I want to SEE!!!

    by spud mcspud

    Fuck all that nonsense - and Heather nailed the problem with the remake - now it's all about Freddy and fuck all to do with the characters. You liked and identified with Nancy because she was REAL - not an airhead bib-tittied bimbo with no personality, but the archetypal girl next door: pretty but not a supermodel, smart but not a genius, brave but not a superhero, capable but not MacGyver. She was the person we all thought we'd be if we were i that situation - not who we'd WISH to be, but who we WOULD be: the ordinary person who finds hidden reserves of strength in extraordinary circumstances. Plus, I guarantee Heather is a way better actress than the new Nancy will be.<P> I can't wait for this doc to come out on DVD - because it's a movie made by people who actually fucking CARE about the ELM ST legacy, not people who see half-decent opening weekend bank out of it and nothing else, creative endeavours included. Fucking hacks. I hope this remake sinks PLATINUM DUNES, though we all know we won't be that lucky.

  • April 26, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Man I love New Nightmare so much.

    by JediRob

    And Heather is really great in it. Brilliant movie. Looking very forward to this doc.

  • April 26, 2010, 5:05 p.m. CST

    HIS NAME WAS JASON? No thanks!

    by Nick Michalak

    HIS NAME WAS JASON sucked! Gave no new nsight into any of the films. After years of information scouring on the internet, and the F13 DVD box set, there's hardly anything new to say about those films. They're not that complex. I sold mine off quick. Waste of money. I would hope that ELM STREET would garner better results.

  • April 26, 2010, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Surprised AICN published anything critical of the remake

    by reflecto

    You guys seem set for AICN to get gangbanged by Platinum Dunes - again.

  • April 26, 2010, 5:30 p.m. CST

    is this online yet?

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    i wanna see it but don't wantto wait or pay for it, is it on torrent yet??

  • April 26, 2010, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Heather was not the first "final girl" to refuse to be a victim.

    by vincentr

    I think Jamie Lee Curtis blazed that trail in Halloween.

  • April 26, 2010, 5:54 p.m. CST

    I want to tongue her tits!

    by Loosejerk

    Hey, I should write one of these movies.

  • April 26, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST

    This is gonna be great. Plus, Langenkamp is hot.

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    Never a bad thing. Great to see her carrying on with the film in this way, and really hope it's a big success. I'll be buying it for sure.

  • April 26, 2010, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Nick Michalak

    by Bouncy X

    the Jason doc was a result of meddling, this Elm Street one was a complete independetly made thing so they got to do what they wanted. as a result the documentary itself is 4hrs long, and thats not counting the other 4hrs worth of extras on the 2nd disc. so its definately worth a buy if you're a fan of the series.

  • April 26, 2010, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Some chicks deserve perverted TBs....Heather L does not.

    by SlimButNotreally

    Show some respect to an icon, you shmucks.

  • April 26, 2010, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Halloween

    by Bouncy X

    Laurie didnt refuse to be a victim, she was a victim from the moment she saw him. she's whimpering and crying and trying to hide and run away the whole time. now in H20 she finally decided enough is enough and went after him sure but in the original, she's just the typical horror female victim.

  • April 26, 2010, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Is she still pretty?

    by JayLenoTookMyJob

    I had a huge thing for her when I was a kid back in the 80's. That whole "girl next door" vibe she had was killer hot!

  • April 26, 2010, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Nightmare on Elm Street 2 = GAY

    by Judge Briggs

    Seriously, that may be one of the gayest movies ever made! (Not that there is anything wrong with that).

  • April 26, 2010, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Where's the

    by gasherthegrey

  • April 26, 2010, 6:49 p.m. CST

    No current pic of Heather?

    by AKA_Gern_Blanston

    I'd be curious to see how she looks these days. Her 3 Elm Street movies (1,3, and New Nightmare) were my favs, with 4 rounding out the ones I can still watch.

  • April 26, 2010, 6:50 p.m. CST

    I WILL check out the new one

    by AKA_Gern_Blanston

    but mainly because I got a free ticket inside the original's blu ray release.

  • April 26, 2010, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Where's the "Damn you Michael Bay" guy when we need him?

    by gasherthegrey

    Heather's commentary on the project was most interesting, and I definitely want to check out the doc when I get a chance. And unless God is unmerciful, I bet she's still quite the hottie. Don't expect to see anyone near her calibre in this diarrhea from Mr. Bay and his lackeys. Doesn't someone need some slow motion explosions somewhere? Oh, and no disrespect to Mr. Haley; he's bad ass. I don't blame him for taking the opportunity. But his paycheck won't have my $10 in it, and neither will Michael fucking Bay's. In other news, I'm hosting a Nightmare party on Friday, when the abomination is released. Friends are going to get together, have a few drinks, and watch Nightmare 1 and 3 and reminisce about how awesome the 80's were. I suggest you guys do the same. Oh, and if anyone wants to join the cause, check out the Facebook page "There's only one Freddy Krueger! Do NOT support the remake!"

  • April 26, 2010, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Finally watched the 1st movie this afternoon

    by Tall_Boy66

    I actually quite like Langenkamp in the movie. It's not as if she blows me away with her pure thespian power but she's easily sympathetic in the film which is key for a lead in a horror flick. Maybe because she wears pink in every scene. And she looks quite good. Next up: skipping straight to part 3 Dream Warriors and ending off with New Nightmare. I know she's in both of those. I think.

  • April 26, 2010, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Oh, and the scene when Laurie takes charge in H20

    by Tall_Boy66

    Is probably the best scene in the movie. The last 30 or so minutes of H20 is pretty damn good. *Laurie grabs a fireaxe and stomps through the town* MICHAEL!!!! Then she chops the fucker's head off. that's how you end a franchise, yo. Yeah, then Halloween: Resurrection came out but who cares? Laurie finally won. And in middle age, too. Badass.

  • April 26, 2010, 7:33 p.m. CST

    The Langenkamp NIGHTMAREs...

    by mrbeaks

    ... are the only NIGHTMAREs that matter.

  • April 26, 2010, 7:44 p.m. CST

    will i lose my geek card if i say

    by slder78

    that i did't know she was in the Nightmare movies till after i saw her in the ABC sitcom Just the Ten of Us? What? I was like 11 and Elm Street movies were hard R.

  • April 26, 2010, 7:48 p.m. CST

    a more recent pic of HL:

    by Rocco Curioso

    http://tinyurl.com/2fgakmb

  • April 26, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Beaks. Wrong. Much though I love her...

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    ....but saying the three Langenkamp movies are the only ones that matter is just plain wrong. Nightmare 2 was batshit insane - and the pool party scene with Freddy in the real world stalking and killing was awesome, had real atmosphere. As a film it had faults but overall was a great follow-up. And yeah, Nightmare 4 was as far as I'm concerned the last good Elm Street movie until New Nightmare...and now. The only bad Elm Streets were 5 and Freddy's Dead - both excrement, no doubt. But don't be disrespectful of 2 and 4. They had faults but were terrific movies. Englund was awesome in all of the first four.

  • April 26, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST

    I'm Biased...

    by drwynninblack

    I know I am, of course, biased in saying this (since I'm one of the producers of this documentary)...but, even though the strongest sequels are "Dream Warriors" and "New Nightmare", I feel even some of the "weaker entries" had some good things to offer in terms of visuals, effects, etc. And, I absolutely love "F V J". Flame on.

  • April 26, 2010, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Ripley

    by JaimeFoxx

    Alien was released in '79 Beaks. Get your shit straight. But I mean Nancy's okay too.

  • April 26, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Drwynninblack...congrats on the documentary.

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    Think you've got a guaranteed success, you've definately got my money anyway. Can't say we will agree on FvsJ though......but Elm Street 1 to 4 plus New Nightmare are the strongest horror franchise ever seen. I'm interested to see where Haley takes Freddy in the new movie...and I have to admit I love the footage shown so far of the nightmare sequence blending with what's happening in reality - very well done - but one thing I know is the cast for the new movie apart from Haley can't hold a candle to the original. Jeez, what a perfect movie. Can't wait for your documentary to hit the shelves.

  • April 26, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST

    DREAM WARRIORS

    by The Guy Who Slept Through Everything.

    Best ELM STREET sequel.

  • April 26, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Rocco Curioso

    by AKA_Gern_Blanston

    Damn that pic makes me feel old!

  • April 26, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Langencamp in Nickel Mountain

    by Blanket-Man

    My teen-aged self got a lot of use out of my VCR's pause button cuz of that movie, wink wink.

  • April 26, 2010, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the tip, Blanket-Man

    by Tall_Boy66

    I know what I'm googling when I get back from work. Horray!

  • April 26, 2010, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Remake won't dilute shit unless its better

    by MrD

    And i doubt that it will be better. We've had lots ofremakes that sucked, or maybe even weren't that bad - Kong, Apes, TCM, Invaders from Mars, War of the Worlds etc, etc. The only films that seem to take away from the originals are the remakes that are, hands down, superior - theThing and the Fly. Every other one fades away, and the original stands that much taller because it was challenged and never touched. The most I can hope for in the remake is something like the 70s Body Snatchers, which stood next to, but never supplanted, the original.

  • April 26, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST

    BTW- Watching Elm Street Blu Ray right now

    by MrD

    Outside of fashion, hairstyles and some synth music, it still holds up. This is definately the one they'll remember Craven for.

  • April 26, 2010, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Pre-order

    by NoahTall

    I just ordered it but not from that site. Sorry but a dinky poster signed by Heather just isn't that special.<p><p>Amazon pre-order is $7.50 less.

  • April 26, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Can't wait...

    by KHjLL

    I've been writing down all of my nightmares fr the last two years. I still have Freddy nightmares once in a great moon. The first in 10 years came the night before I saw THE LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT at the CHI screening. The 4th was the first I saw as a kid. Late night on tv. I started my own mirror colage like in the film of family and friends which spun out of control and eventually took up all of my wall space in the room as a teen. I'm so glad they are realesing NEVER SLEEP AGAIN. I'm going to use it like I did with HIS NAME WAS JASON. I figure I'll write it out. And some day I'll be able to pitch it to SHAYE and JASON to CUMMINGHAM when they are complete.

  • April 26, 2010, 9:51 p.m. CST

    "Oh, just a taste!"

    by blackwood

    Mr. Beaks. I imagine you snapping out your wrist to delicately and non-sexually touch her knee and smirking like a cat when you say this. Please tell me that is exactly what happened. If you have a John Waters mustache I might have to proposition you.<p>THAT disturbing aside out of the way... there is good to be hand in all the NIGHTMAREs. I wrote a paper on it. My favourite of the lesser ones is Part 2 - because it's the 'gay' NIGHTMARE. You can successfully do a reading of that film as analogous to the struggle of understanding and accepting one's own homosexuality. It is a really, really interesting film.

  • April 26, 2010, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Fright Night and ANOES2 are treasured queer horror

    by reflecto

  • April 26, 2010, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Reflecto.....speaking from experience there, huh sweety?

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    Self hatred is no good, fella. Let it go, burst out of that closet and embrace your inner Liberace. You know you want to.

  • April 26, 2010, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Better not dream and drive...!

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • April 26, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Amazon...

    by drwynninblack

    True, Amazon is offering it for less... But if you order through them you also have to pay shipping, sales tax, you don't get the autographed Langenkamp poster, and you don't get entered into the chance to win the Teaser poster autographed by over 80 participants in the NOES series (including Craven and Englund).

  • April 26, 2010, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Where's your pass? Nancy:SCREW YOUR PASS!!

    by Thanos0145

    Will Freddy's tongue come out of an IPhone in the remake?

  • April 26, 2010, 10:52 p.m. CST

    Did they get an interview with Johnny Depp(1rst movie role)?

    by Thanos0145

    I loved the way Freddy killed him off as he passed out listening to his headphones.

  • April 26, 2010, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Depp actually managed to die twice

    by cookepuss

    That still cracks me up. First, he died as Glenn in #1 and then he died, as himself, in #6. I always respected that he never forgot where he started. Some people disassociate themselves from stuff like this once they get their first mainstream hit. Nice that he'd revisit the series, even if it was in one of the worst installments.

  • April 26, 2010, 11:17 p.m. CST

    As for Langenkamp's enduring hotness....

    by cookepuss

    She's not 19 anymore and has certainly aged as well as any fair skinned 45 year old woman would, but she's definitely still doable. Definitely aging better than Activia Lee Curtis.<p> <p>Langekamp's still got that very natural, girl next door thing going for her. None of that creepy, unnatural botox/surgery that you see in gynosaurs like Helen Hunt, Heather Locklear, or Linda Hamilton.

  • April 27, 2010, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Beaks, nothing on von Stroheim's Greed?

    by gromit53705

  • April 27, 2010, 12:23 a.m. CST

    Re: Greed

    by gromit53705

    There's a possibility that it will get a DVD release in December. This is pretty big news. I would have expected a write-up from you, Beaks. Not a fan? Or never got a chance to see the 4 hour cut?

  • April 27, 2010, 12:42 a.m. CST

    You are one slow motherfucker, Smegma.

    by reflecto

    I meant my comments about FRIGHT NIGHT and ANOES2 as sheer compliment. Anyone familiar with my talkback history knows I am a gay fan.

  • April 27, 2010, 1:21 a.m. CST

    Don't worry Heather...

    by Toruk_Makto

    There's absolutely positively no chance of this film diluting the original.

  • April 27, 2010, 1:37 a.m. CST

    About Depp

    by The Guy Who Slept Through Everything.

    On the DVD commentary to NEW NIGHTMARE Craven said he had intended to ask Depp about making an appearance in the film, specially as himself during the funeral scene. But he thought he was too well known and wouldn't accept it, so he never asked him. Then after the films release, Craven ran into Depp after not seeing him since the first NIGHTMARE and mentioned he wanted him to make a cameo and Depp said he would have.

  • April 27, 2010, 2:21 a.m. CST

    Part 2

    by TheJudger

    I was still a kid when that one came out, and that movie scared the fucking shit out of me. The theme of Freddy possessing someone in their dreams in order to make them do bad things in the real world was scary as hell. And Freddy was as cold if not more so than he was in the original. No jokes. Fucking with Jesses head, toying around with him and making him a danger to his family and friends. It was very effective. Time opens your eyes and yes Jesse is a very sexually repressed coming of age male who is girl shy. His coach is without a doubt an angry gay man and his jock friend might be repressed as well. I always identified Jesse as being the way he was because he's the same sort of geek Arnie was in Christine before the car game him a sense of pride. He wasn't a player. When he finally gets a girl- Freddy becomes a part of his life and he fucks it all up.

  • April 27, 2010, 2:28 a.m. CST

    new nightmare

    by BendersShinyAss

    I walked out. caught it on tv late one night and thought it was still shit.

  • April 27, 2010, 2:35 a.m. CST

    it was really only ...

    by BendersShinyAss

    ... elm street 2 & 5 that were terrible. 6 was good until they gimmicked in the 3D climax. i still have my poxy old red and blue glasses.

  • April 27, 2010, 3:20 a.m. CST

    This poster's art is...

    by Bodenland Unbound

    ...a nice link to the original franchise posters art, thousand times better than the one they have done for the remake!

  • April 27, 2010, 5:43 a.m. CST

    rsanta74 - GYNOSAURS!!

    by spud mcspud

    I am now blowing Weetabix and tea down my nose while trying not to laugh. Fucking funny stuff, but I gotta stop reading TBs while eating my brunch ;D

  • April 27, 2010, 5:44 a.m. CST

    Well, I WANT a 3D FREDDY'S DEAD DVD release...

    by spud mcspud

    ...If I had to suffer that shit back in the mid 90s, so should the next generation. Michael Bay will be PISSED that they already did a 3D ELM ST before his whacked out hack ass got to the party.

  • April 27, 2010, 7:02 a.m. CST

    What I found unintentionally hilarious in New Nightmare...

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    ...was that Heather Langenkamp was portrayed as this busy, popular actress with this lavish Bevery Hills mansion and assistants and shit, when in real life, I can't think of a SINGLE MOVIE she's been in aside from her three Nightmare flicks. Do even flash-in-the-pan 80s slasher-movie starlets get to live in mansions that cost about $30 million?

  • April 27, 2010, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Freddy's Dead is in 3D on dvd...

    by Bouncy X

    if you get the complete series collection. but it doesn't change the fact that movie is just terrible and bad on every single level imaginable. i'm a HUGE Nightmare fan and i can stand watching 2 and 5 no problem but whenever i try and give 6 a chance, i turn it off after 20mins or so..its just sooo bad and wrong and insulting. Freddy himself has a terrible voice, not sure why they didnt use the vocal effect from 4 and 5 and the tv series because that voice was great. and then his makeup, it looked like it wasn't even finished. and to think it was done by the same guy who did the original...must have passed it off to his assistants or something. lol

  • April 27, 2010, 8:31 a.m. CST

    NastyInThePasty...

    by drwynninblack

    Heather wasn't portrayed that way in NEW NIGHTMARE. She was portrayed as an actress who was trying to "get back on the horse", as her husband Chase put it: it was pretty clear in the film that she wasn't working a lot but wanted to start working again. Also, they didn't live in a "Bevery Hills mansion"; they lived in a modest (for LA standards) home in the Valley. As far as assistants, she didn't have one...only a babysitter named Julie. Go back and check the film out again...

  • April 27, 2010, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Reflecto....slow indeed.

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    But your mother appreciated the extra time I took so all is well.

  • April 27, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST

    UP YOURS WITH A TWIRLING LAWNMOWER..

    by bobbyperusteeth

  • April 27, 2010, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Heather Langenkamp soudns like a class act

    by AsimovLives

    And i had a crush on her when i saw her in A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET. She realyl is one of the finest final girls in slash history, to rival Jamie Lee Curtis in Halloween. Langenkamp class of final girl is so rarefied, that it took last year's THE HOUSE OF THE DEVIL to find a equaly memorable final girl in the actress Jocelin Donahue.

  • April 27, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Tall_Boy66

    by AsimovLives

    I agree, friend. H20 was just an Ok movie, but the moment Laurie grabs the axe and says "this far no futher" and goes after Michael Meyers, the movie jumped up in the steps of quality and became badass. Too bad the movie wasn't all like that, but at least it did something most movies fail to achieve: getting better as they near the end.

  • April 27, 2010, 4:48 p.m. CST

    I shit on ELM STREET 4

    by AsimovLives

    That's the fucking movie that was directed by that miserable peice of shit hack Renny Fucking Harlin. Fuck Harlin and fuck his movie. Fuck' em.

  • April 27, 2010, 10:26 p.m. CST

    Harlin's Nightmare 4 was the most stylish film in the whole seri

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Honestly...all Harlin movies up through Cliffhanger were pretty good (and Die Hard 2 is legitimately great), but once filmmakers "go bad", most geeks tend to bitch that they were ALWAYS horrible. Yes, the man made Deep Blue Sea, The Covenant and Cutthroat Island, but his early films were quality and well-directed as HELL. Nightmares 1, 3 and 4 form a pretty good "trilogy" within the larger series (despite Patricia Arquette not reprising her role from the third movie in 4...why, I have no idea).

  • April 27, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST

    es

    by Nasty In The Pasty

  • April 28, 2010, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Nasty...I prefered Tuesday Knight to Arquette...

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    ...in the role. Plus she did a wicked opening song to that flick. Nightmare 4 was awesome.

  • I was wondering if anyone knew her current fan-mail address... I loved her in the Nightmare series and I would really like to write her my appreciation of her acting and the inspiration she gave me.

  • April 28, 2010, 1:38 a.m. CST

    I'm the opposite, Hint

    by cookepuss

    I preferred Arquette. <p> <p> For one thing, her acting was clearly a touch better than the other B actors. Not that she was given great lines, but she delivered them well enough that it didn't look like "good" porn acting. That's what bothered me the most about Tuesday Knight. She only had a handful of minutes to work with in 4 and managed to Shatner every scene she was in.<p> <p> I also thought that Arquette was hotter. She had a great rack and none of the fat that'd plague her later on in Medium and a face that made her look like a softer, prettier version of Rosanna. Comparatively, Tuesday Knight was built like a candy apple. Big head, thin body, and not much going on below the neck. They tried to fake it with her (eg. the beach scene), but she looked like a weird anime character.<p> <p> I do have to give it up to Knight for that kick-ass "Nightmare" title track. It always seems to get play on my iPod whenever I'm itching to hear movie themed stuff.<p> <p> As for Asimov's Harlin hatin'.... Die Hard 2 forgives all of the other crap he's done later on. Plus, he could film nothing but gay midget snuff musicals for the next 10 years and I'd still think, "At least it's not a Uwe Boll `film'."<p> <p> I don't necessarily think that film makers "go bad" per se. Some do. There's no doubting that. Still, I think that many of these "gone bad" creators are people looking to grow in new ways, but somehow never find their footing. <p> <p> Besides, it could be worse. The only thing worse than a "gone bad" creator is one who made one great movie and built a whole career by remixing it. I'd gladly take an admittedly deeply flawed Harlin than a Tim Burton or Kevin Smith. There's nothing wrong with either. Fans seem to love them. Still, I always feel that they're just remaking the same movies over and over and over. Watching a Tim Burton movie is like listening to an Aerosmith record. You like what you're hearing, but you can't shake the uneasy feeling of familiarity. Street Fighter 2. Street Fighter 2 Championship Edition. Super Street Fighter 2. <p> <p> I'll sooner take an artist willing to leave their comfort zone than one so limited by it. That's my main issue with M. Night Shyamalamadingdong. He found a formula and beat it to death.

  • April 28, 2010, 1:50 a.m. CST

    I'm about halfway through Part 3

    by Tall_Boy66

    And I think I like it even more than the first one, basically I think it has a more interesting story than the first one because since we all know the beats of the original Nightmare just through pop culture osmosis that this one has a different way to present Freddy, production values are a bit better, and it's basically One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest plus Freddy Kruger. I also know that Nancy bites it in this one (was reading about the development of it on wiki and they have it listed in the writing section, which is kind of a bummer but I should have known better, frankly) which does make me a little sad but she's in another movie so that's okay.

  • April 28, 2010, 1:50 a.m. CST

    @Nasty: RE: Arquette not being in NoES4

    by cookepuss

    Simple. She was pregnant. Dream Warriors was 1987. She had her 1st kid in 1988, same year as Dream Master. <p> <p> Seeing as how, Newline was riding high on NoES3, which made $44M on a $5M budget, they were probably eager to push NoES4 through to market ASAP. No way could Arquette reprise her role when, in the year between flicks, she got knocked up.

  • April 28, 2010, 4:05 a.m. CST

    Nasty In The Pasty

    by AsimovLives

    You have a fucked up notion of stylish, if i may say so. And EVERY movie that Reny Harlin made are all shit. Every single one of them. EVERYONE! Pure crap shit! The fucker should had been a cobbler. Or a reindeer shit sweeper. Anything but a director.

  • April 28, 2010, 4:40 a.m. CST

    Well, Elm mStreet 4 sure suffered from Arquette's absence

    by AsimovLives

    And to make things wros,t they hired motherfucking shitty hackboy fuckass Renny fucking Harlin. Because, like, there was nobody else available, right?<br><br>You guys know how Renny Running Shit Harlin ever got a career? It wasn't talent, because he hasn't any. It was because he throw parties. Yes, parties is the foundation of Fucking Harlin. He can go fuck himself up his fucking ass! Fuck him!

  • April 28, 2010, 5:31 a.m. CST

    Asi - Harlin is the definition of a guilty pleasure director...

    by spud mcspud

    Come ON! PRISON, ELM ST 4, DIE HARD 2, CLIFFHANGER, CUTTHROAT ISLAND, THE LONG KISS GOODNIGHT, DEEP BLUE SEA... Each and every one of those movies is a tried-and-tested Saturday night pizza-and-beer movie. No question.<P> Stop expecting everything to be Shakespeare, and learn to enjoy the little things! Renny Harlin is by no means a Paul WS Anderson, or a Brett Ratner, or an (God save us!) Uwe Boll...

  • April 28, 2010, 6:01 a.m. CST

    Just got good news

    by AsimovLives

    Just received by DVD of THE HOUSE OF THE DEVIL.- This is one very cool, very well made little horror movie. It's a throwback to the slasher/demon movies of the early 80s. So much so, the story itself is set in 1983. The lead actress is a revelation, one of the most charming and cute final girl in the history of horror.

  • April 28, 2010, 6:22 a.m. CST

    spud mcspud

    by AsimovLives

    Guilty pleasure? Fuck the guilt! It's your guilt, not mine. The fucker is a fucking desease! The fucker and his parties, it means that he stole movie jobs from other, more talented directors who were even in more need then that fucking assclown. Fuck Renny Fucking Shit Harlin. that motherfucker can go fuck himself in his fucking ass and shove his fucking pudrid movies up his ass. Fuck Renny Harlin. Fuck that fucker. I tell you, until Michael Shit Bay showed up, Renny Fucking Harlin was the motherfucker "director" i most hated. Fuck that asshole!

  • April 28, 2010, 6:38 a.m. CST

    Renny Harlin's rape of cinema carrer:

    by AsimovLives

    FUCK ELM STREET FOR: THE SHIT MASTER; SHIT HARD 2: SHIT HARDER; THE LONG KISS MY ASS GOODBYE; SHITROOT ISLAND; DEEP SEA OF SHIT; THE RETARD BULLSHIT OF FUCK FORLAINE; SHITHANGER; MINDSHITERS...<br><br>Fucking Harlin Fuckass Harlin's career is a true list of horrors! That fucking ass should had been a fisherman, or a gay gigollo. Anything but a filmmaker. Fucking ass! PRISON is an OK movie, but it came out that way by mistake, and the sheer powers of awesomeness of Viggo Mortenssen.

  • April 28, 2010, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Asi

    by spud mcspud

    Are you just jealous because he got to put it to Geena Davis on a regular basis??<P> I am...

  • April 28, 2010, 9:40 a.m. CST

    I'm rewatching ANOES as we speak...

    by spud mcspud

    ...And you know what the biggest problem is with the remake (Yes, I'm trying to single one out from the millions it has)?<P> SUBTLETY.<P> As in, the remake has none. In the clips and trailers I've seen, the subtly frightening image of Freddy leering over Nancy from out of the bedroom wall in the original becomes a swooping nazgul thing straight from THE FRIGHTENERS - and it's CGI, so is instantly rendered unscary. The Tina death in the original is still awesome in its use of effective SFX and a great performance by someone you felt sorry for - the shots in the remake trailer look like (a) Bayer is trying to rip off THE EXORCIST (levitating girl in crucifix pose? DONE!) and (b) it's trying too hard to be iconic and stylish! How the fuck do you get a bedroom to be lit that way anyway? Aren't we mean to see Tina die in REAL life, not in the dreamworld? And the classroom scene - great in the original for the fact that you don't notice the real give way to the dream, it's the way the kid speaking in class starts to whisper in that frightening voice. Remake version? A fucking EXPLOSION of ash appears and drenches the class, while everyone else disappears and Freddy starts clawing at the blackboard.<P> At the risk of turning AICN into a bunch of old fucks moaning about how the younger generation don't understand horror because they don't understand slow burns and subtlety - THE FUCKING YOUNGER GENERATION FUCKING SUCK BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND SLOW BURNS AND SUBTLETY!<p> This remake looks more and more like a sure-fire EPIC FUCKING FAIL...

  • April 28, 2010, 9:42 a.m. CST

    You know why they hired Bayer to direct??

    by spud mcspud

    Bay said to them, "We need the next generation of ME! We need the hottest, most visual, most fucking addicted to wham-bam-coke-me-ma'am fucking fast cutting explosive fucking FILM-MAKER WE HAVE EVER SEEN!! Who you fuckers got me, huh?"<P> "Samuel Bayer, sir."<P> "Bayer?? As in, I'm Bay - but he's fucking BAYER?? BAYER THAN BAY???"<P> "Yes, sir."<P> "Hire that bitch! And bring me a mountain of blow and a sweet fuckin' ass to do it off of!!"<P> **death rattle of decent blockbuster movie-making**

  • April 28, 2010, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Hey Asi--

    by spud mcspud

    --I heard they're gonna get Abrams to just produce STAR TREK II. Renny Harlin to direct.Viggo Mortensen as Khan.<P> Lost Jarv is hard at work on the script as we speak...

  • April 28, 2010, 11:49 a.m. CST

    spud mcspud

    by AsimovLives

    If i'm going to be jealous of a filmmaker, i'll be about a good filmmaker, like Christopher Nolan, not a fucking hack like Renny Shit Harlin.

  • April 28, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST

    spud mcspud

    by AsimovLives

    Looks like STAR TREK TOO is going to be exactly like the first, then. The script is being handled by a retard, so no changes there.

  • April 28, 2010, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Simon Bayer, Bayer Then Bay!

    by AsimovLives

    "More Bay Than Bay", that's their motto.<br><br>And when you watch the Bayer movie, you will need a Bayer Aspirin.

  • April 28, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST

    spud mcspud

    by AsimovLives

    You have pointed out what is the most important aspect of the original NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET: the likability fo the characters, specially the lead character Nancy. As you well said, that's the movie's secret weapon. They had in the movie characters we like. And if we like the characters, their fate matters,a dn thus, the movie is far more effective. All points you very well put. and as you said, i see in nothing in the trailer that this character likability will be in the remake. If anything, i ssupect they will go the same route as the futher sequels, the emphasis will be on Freddy. Yes, they might try to portait Freddy as a real monster, but still the emphasis will be in him, and not on Nancy or any of his friends or family.<br><br>In the original, i cared about her friends, i cared about her mother and father, but most ofalll, and more important of all, i cared about Nancy. It's why the movie worked for me. And this remake, it doesn't bode well, does it?

  • April 28, 2010, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Well said, Asi

    by spud mcspud

    It IS the character moments that have us investing in the kids who are dying, rather than in Freddy - the little moments like Glen (Depp) calling his Mom with the sound FX tape in the background, and it going wrong and him having to explain away the gunfire noises - it's funny, it's relateable, and we like Glen, Tina and Nancy all because of that. Hell, we get that Rod is an asshole, but we get that Freddy is way scarier than Rod Lane, and so when Rod dies, we feel bad for him - he just got framed for Tina's murder, then Freddy gets him. These kids don't DESERVE what Freddy is going to do to them - and that's what makes us root for them. By the time ELM ST 4 came round, you're cheering Freddy on to kill these uncharismatic, vacant, stereotypical twats. And you're right - they've gone the casting-Abercrombie-and-Fitch-model-types route, which will guarantee (a) zero audience sympathy for ANY of these vacant, self-absorbed WASP fucks, and (b) we're cheering for Freddy. Which squarely puts this reboot in the shit-Elm-St-movies category. So fuck Bay, fuck Platinum Dunes, and fuck that hack reboot. FUCK THEM ALL!!!

  • April 28, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Spud....can't agree about the kids in 4.

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    It had the most sympathetic bunch of kids since the original - I wasn't cheering for Freddy to kill them. I will say though that by 3 and 4 it was becoming more of an emphasis about how Freddy killed someone rather than the loss of the character itself - something that reduced the series to self parody in 5 and 6 (the only two I don't like and can't watch as it genuinely hurts what they did to the series). The problem with the emphasis on Fred and the kills was inevitable after the success of the first movie, after the very creation of an iconic movie monster - by definition, we want to see more of him so the studios slide down the road of more and more presence, more making him appealing to the viewer. Part of it is us too - we want to relate to Freddy more than we want to relate to his victims - because who wants to be a victim? So we identify more with Freddy as the series goes on and the mood shifts from the emphasis being on Nancy kicking his ass, as in the first. There we genuinely root for her to win. In the following movies, we can like the kids and can hope they win out - but at the same time, we want more of Fred Kreuger which mean ultimately that those kids have to lose. And in a horror franchise it just means a slide to more inventive death scenes as opposed to better characterisation and consistency. I love the first 4 Elm Street movies, and New Nightmare, to death. Hate 5 and 6 with a passion. I don't think it looks like the new remake will have as good characterisation, or as good acting apart from Haley, as the original but I'm hoping it at least gets Freddy right - with Haley playing him, there's a damn good chance they didn't fuck it up. And if they've got the Freddy mix right, they can build a better sequel and so on.....I'd be very happy if this was the start of another 20 years of Krueger scaring the shit out of people.

  • April 28, 2010, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Rsanta......gotta give you a shout out, man.

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    That Shatner comment had me laughing hard, yeah you nailed her acting completely with that line but what can I say, she did it for me. Arquette just never appealed and Tuesday Knight to me, in those teen years, was one hot tomale. Plus that Nightmare track of hers stands out to me not only as a great, great song but also about the best, most fitting track to any horror movie from those years - except maybe my insane love for Brave New Love by Alien on The Blob soundtrack. Tangent? Yes I know, but no-one ever accused me of coherence. I'm hoping a part of this documentary covers the Tuesday Knight song and it's inclusion on the soundtrack to 4. Man, I can't wait for this docu to hit the shelves.

  • May 13, 2010, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Just got a Poster coolest thing ever...

    by KHjLL

    HEATHER LANGENKAMP thanks for the autograph, Love the artwork... Starting off WRITING the night with NEVER SLEEP AGAIN : The Elm Street Legacy...

  • May 13, 2010, 7:42 p.m. CST

    MAYBE I SHOULD STICK WITH ...

    by KHjLL

    A BLACK SCREEN until I'm done writing... Than watch it than the rest after I'm done.

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