Can you now make an Alien movie that has the patience and same style as the first movie and it’ll still work for audiences? Scott: I think it’ll work. Don’t you?This is directly inferring that Sir Ridley's looking to make an ALIEN film that is closer in tone/approach to his original 1979 movie than anything else we've seen from the franchise to date - a notion which I find tremendously exciting. It's not altogether unexpected, but...at the same time...it wasn't a foregone conclusion, either (so far, each of the ALIEN films have looked/felt, quite different from the others - which I really appreciate). This said, as much as I enjoyed them, I always missed Scott's...Scottness...in the later three pictures. Although, the Ridley Scott from back then and the Ridley Scott making movies today feel like completely different directors in my book, so I'm curious as to how everything will land here. By the way, Austin folks, the ALIEN Director's Cut will play the Paramount Theater's Summer Film Series this year (looks like July 2 & 3 - details HERE).
April 26, 2010, 11:55 a.m. CST
by Charlie & Tex
The series is dead - let it rest in peace.
April 26, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST
by Sailor Rip
I still don't know how I feel about this.
April 26, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST
April 26, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST
by Bouncy X
expect a shot of the mouth thingy shooting at the audience. oh and 3D really does kill the picutre, got avatar on blu-ray for my mom yesterday and we watched it and wow the picture was muuuch better than in theaters. and i thought the 3D theater picture looked awesome, i guess it really does lose something in the process.
April 26, 2010, 11:57 a.m. CST
by just pillow talk
As much as my feelings about this project are mixed, focus on making a good/great Alien movie, and forget about that 3D shit.
April 26, 2010, 11:58 a.m. CST
Im with Charlie....Leave it the hell alone. And not everything has to be in 3D. Damn.
April 26, 2010, 11:58 a.m. CST
that is all.
April 26, 2010, 11:59 a.m. CST
by Charlie & Tex
Amen, brother! This 3D craze is getting ridiculous.
April 26, 2010, 12:01 p.m. CST
April 26, 2010, 12:02 p.m. CST
I'm sorry but Alien is one of my top five favorite films, period. I love Ridley work tremendously, and have a hell of a lot of faith in him, but 3D single handedly loses almost all of my enthusiasm for this project. Can't say I'm too thrilled about two prequels concept either. Sigh.
April 26, 2010, 12:03 p.m. CST
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April 26, 2010, 12:06 p.m. CST
When do I get my motherfuckin' Ridley Scott Waterloo epic? That feature in the Kingdom of Heaven Director's cut bonus features has been the biggest cock tease of Scott's entire career.
April 26, 2010, 12:06 p.m. CST
April 26, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST
by Dave I
Yes! I'd say so.<p><p>That is what makes "Alien" work, for me, probably why it holds up so well. That creepy, deliberate, Lovecraftian slow burn and the partial-reveal with shadows and mystique being something you anticipate, rather than being desensitized by seeing the Alien in full-light the whole movie.<p><p>As for 3D . . . Just tell a good, compelling story. I don't need 1,000,001 different types of Aliens (no "Pred-Aliens, or hybrids, or uber-kewl mutations, just a scary monster), no ninja-fights with Matrix slo-mo, no XTREME 3D special effects with over-the-top action, just make a good movie. If 3D doesn't fit in with the lighting style of the movie or the way it's cut, feel free to film it normal-like. I still find old black-and-white movies with actors gripping, I'm pretty sure an Aliens movie filmed in a standard format/pacing sans 3D will work just fine. You know, without gimmicks.<p><p>-Cheers
April 26, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST
by Bouncy X
now there's a movie that would make good use of 3D. just make sure all the girls are natural, dont need implants sticking out any more than they do.
April 26, 2010, 12:14 p.m. CST
I'm so fucking sick and tired about hearing about new 3D projects every week. I don't give a rat's ass about 3D. If you can't make a decent 2D movie than 3D ain't gonna help.</rant><br><br> As for the prequels, it could work I guess...
April 26, 2010, 12:16 p.m. CST
April 26, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST
It seems most of these movies are pimping the 3-D because idiots are willing to spend extra money on it even though the actual story sucks. (And yes, I'm looking right at you, AVATAR!) If you really need a gimmick from the 1950s to sell your film, you certainly don't need my ticket purchase.
April 26, 2010, 12:20 p.m. CST
...Im jokin but am waitin patiently for 3d porn... just gonna have to look away durin the cum scenes lol
April 26, 2010, 12:22 p.m. CST
Just make two GREAT Alien movies to redeem this franchise. It has such potential...
April 26, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST
April 26, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST
Goddamn enter key.
April 26, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST
And enjoyed it as much, if not more, than the 3D theatrical version. Starting to wonder why so many feel that 3D is now a necessity for sci-fi films.
April 26, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST
The Alien canon has established that this race have fucked with all sorts of species in all different parts of the universe. But what's the point now??!! It will be the same shit in different settings. We know EVERYTHING about these things.
April 26, 2010, 12:28 p.m. CST
Seriously, leave this shit alone. Why do I have a feeling these Alien 3D prequels will star Sam Worthless-ington. I am in agreement with all who say make GOOD 2D movies. This 3D gimmick is already getting old.
April 26, 2010, 12:28 p.m. CST
is to have the motivations and actions of the Space Jockey just as incomprehensible at the end of the movie, as at the beginning. Plus: make the Alien superior and intelligent again, *not* insect-like or bug-like. Have people we care about slowly--consciously--converted into eggs, that's a part most audiences haven't seen. The Alien and eggs should be the payload, and the Space Jockey a bomber pilot forced to crash. But..his intentions are just as hostile as his weapons. Zinc out...I really miss those old 300 bps messages on screens.
April 26, 2010, 12:30 p.m. CST
was Alien. She'd never seen anything so scary and tense in her life, and still talks about leaving fingernail marks in my arm during the movie LOL.
April 26, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST
..well after the break probably, awesome, wonder what insightful question that bint of the Apprentice will ask.
April 26, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST
by Anything But Tangerines
Of course! Fuck!
April 26, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST
all in 3D, I couldn't give a fuck, you can all carry on watching your superhero movies
April 26, 2010, 12:40 p.m. CST
"The project will be shot in 3D, which poses challenges in the franchise's iconic low-light situations (this will necessitate some post production lighting tweaks)." This makes no sense... there are no issues with shooting dark scenes, or grading scenes back down to darkness. Didn't we recently have a slasher 3D film? Didn't Avatar have night time scenes?
April 26, 2010, 12:40 p.m. CST
Make all the Alien movies you want. It's his baby. It can't ruin anything more than the 3rd and 4th did, and might be great.
April 26, 2010, 12:42 p.m. CST
Let's get someone working on Young Citizen Kane in 3D, and then some Raging Bull side-story.
April 26, 2010, 12:42 p.m. CST
Color me skeptical.
April 26, 2010, 12:46 p.m. CST
I'm just not trying hard enough yet.
April 26, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST
Do you know why? BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN IT IN MOVIES 6 TIMES FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. Fuck me, two prequels and you will have equalled Police Academy, Ridley, you dried up old cunt. Do something new and preferably without that fucking Australian bully.
April 26, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST
Ridley Scott doing 2 alien movies and all you guys cand do is utter your emo film hate raped my childhood crap? They read this stuff to determine if the buzz is there, so how about we support it? Ridley doing a new alien movie with Giger is exciting stuff, let's get behind it for crying out loud!
April 26, 2010, 12:53 p.m. CST
compared to the two AvP that we got the last few years. Scott should direct the first prequel and James Cameron should do the second one.
April 26, 2010, 12:54 p.m. CST
A full 3D xenomorph planet could be great, if done right.
April 26, 2010, 12:58 p.m. CST
Why the fuck not?
April 26, 2010, 12:59 p.m. CST
Fuck all you haters. How To Train Your Dragon in 3D fucked my eyeballs proper!
April 26, 2010, 1 p.m. CST
3 dimension films jumped the nuked fridge shark long before Jaws 3D.
April 26, 2010, 1 p.m. CST
A complex cluster fuck of ideas that look like shit in the end
April 26, 2010, 1:02 p.m. CST
Its the worst of the series, but there are some things there to like. M biggest problem with it is the design of the alien-human hybrid. Holy fuck how they fucked up on that one.
April 26, 2010, 1:03 p.m. CST
Sigourney gotta eat!!
April 26, 2010, 1:06 p.m. CST
by Amazing Maurice
For fuck's sake.<P>I just can't take it anymore.
April 26, 2010, 1:06 p.m. CST
When will this fad die? Is anyone excited to see "Bladerunner" converted to 3D? Why?
April 26, 2010, 1:08 p.m. CST
Why the prequal craze is so rampant. Granted the final installment of Alien (Resurection) had a rediculous plot but it definatly had a unique look to it. The final hybrid monster was rediculous and ruined the whole thing for me but i think there was a good story there....with the alien possibly heading toward Earth at the end. Ron Pearlman and Brad Dourif were freaking awesome in this movie altho they really didn't have much to work with and I agree that the the 3D craze is becoming such a gimmicky concept. I would hate to see Ridley Scott fall victim to this rediculous 3D rejuvination. Having said that, I am still excited as hell to see this, but not as excited as i am for Predators. Crosses fingers. I have faith Mr. Scott.
April 26, 2010, 1:10 p.m. CST
This is BRILLIANT news for sci-fi fans, and you know why...<p> It means Ridley's story concept is epic. Too big for one movie. He's been here with KINGDOM OF HEAVEN - shot as a 190 minute epic but then released as a compromised 145 minute movie.<p> I'd much rather have two movies, movies that can breath and pace themselves in a naturalistic way (a way that honors the original) than a single movie that tells a truncated tale.<p> Can't wait to see how this ALIEN double-bill comes together with cast and budget, etc - because it has a shot at GREATNESS. Whether it achieves it or not who can say - but it has a shot, and how many coming features can you truly say that about...
April 26, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST
I couldnt agree with you more, the horror of the alien franchise was swept away with Cameron's action packed sequel. I think that it the proper direction to take this movie but oh well. Am i the only one who found the performances in Alien 3 outstanding. Altho that film was definatly the most depressing, i thought it was an interesting take on the franchise. But, like i said, i would rather see the series return to its action hayday with possible space jockey being an equal match for the alien altho we know that in the end he sucumbs to the xenomorph. The problem with this prequel is that if we are focusing on the space jockey...well, there is no surprise. Its like watching Apallo 13 or Titanic...there is no tension because you already know how it ends.
April 26, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST
More ALIEN but no more RAMBO. Empire interview with Stallone reveals RAMBO V is no longer on the agenda, transcript:<p> "I think that Rambo's pretty well done," he says quietly. "I don't think there'll be any more. I'm about 99% sure."
April 26, 2010, 1:17 p.m. CST
You can't stop the 3d train!! Seriously, as long as it's shot with 3d cameras, what's not to love about 3d? 3d is just a precursor to holographic projection, and holodeck style technology. Would you guys have whined about color be introduced back in the black and white days?? Seriously, don't hate the technology, which is what it is, just critique on the shitty application of it.
April 26, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST
The alien in this movie is not necessarily going to be the same as in the rest of the franchise. And 3d is here to stay. I don't see the problem if it's done well and I'm sure Mr Scott is not about to settle for any old shit. I think I'd rather trust the opinion of the guy with the 30 odd year directing career who was responsible for the original flim than you lot thanks.
April 26, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST
by Judge Briggs
how are they going to squeeze two movies out of this? ...yet we get short fucking versions of Harry Potter. Hmmmm...
April 26, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST
There is something about the casting in the Predators movie that has me stoked and i am a HUGE fan of Robert Rodriguez so i have a lot of faith in thie sequel becuase he has a huge love for the franchise as is obvious from his interviews. I feel that Scott is trying to cash in on his Alien creation and that is not such a bad thing but then again, we havn't seen ANY footage from his new concept but i was never a fan of the H.G Geiger Alien. The Cameron Aliens deffinatly felt more....i dont know, ALIEN to me. The way the moved and hunted. dont get me wrong. I love most of Scott has done but he is hit or miss for the most part. Crosses fingers.
April 26, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST
I am sure they said the same thing back in the 50's when the 3D craze initially hit theaters. They prolly were thinking that 3D is here to stay but we all saw how that worked out. Now, i dont mean to be synical but fads come and go and in the end its the audiences who will decide if the fad sticks. I loved how to train your dragona dn obviously the 3D in Avatar was brilliant...but that post 3d nonsense is such a cheap way to cash in on the current fad. Either decide from the get-go..this movie a 3D film or it is not. Not only was the plot for Clash of the Titans disapointing but the post production 3D was fairly laughable.
April 26, 2010, 1:39 p.m. CST
Of fucking course.
April 26, 2010, 1:40 p.m. CST
I didn't see all the Aliens. When did we learn this?
skywise, 'the casting for PREDATORS has you stoked' (Adrian Brody???), you have faith in Robert Rodriguez (ok, but you do know he's not directing it???), Scott is trying to cash-in on his Alien creation (riiight, a 70 yr old auteur who's already rich enough to shit on a gold toilet is only in it for the cash-in???), and you're not a fan H.G Geiger (it's H.R, and most would say his design work is pretty good...)<p> In short, I disagree homeboy!
April 26, 2010, 1:43 p.m. CST
I love Alien a great deal. I think I'd rather have no new Alien movie at all than any kind of Alien prequel.
April 26, 2010, 1:59 p.m. CST
Ok you make a good point. I cant deny that and as i said i am supe rstoked to see the films that Scott has in the works. But i have to admit that i looove Adrien Brody's work and i cant wait to see Splice (from the director of Cube). And i did know that Rodriguiz is NOT directing but from what i have read in his production role he is taking a large part in shaping the film. And your right about the Geiger design it was original and brilliant for its time and it obviously shaped all future renditions of the franchise. No doubt. I just...well maybe because it was an OLD flick...but i found Cameron's version of the aliens to be more fearsome, devastaing and just typically bad ass. But again, your point is well taken as far as Scott cashing in. I get it.
April 26, 2010, 2 p.m. CST
"They" read AICN comments to see if the buzz is there? Hmmm... they should rather read the Anchorpoint Essays. ;)
April 26, 2010, 2:01 p.m. CST
just as good as King Kong. Another problem with be balancing physical effects with CGI. For my money, the mechanical/main-in-suit Aliens are the best; the CGI should just be a Space Jockey and tweaks.
April 26, 2010, 2:06 p.m. CST
Scott, Giger, Alien Prequel = happiness for everyone. Add in some Moebius for extra points. Dedicate the film to Dan O'Bannon = best film ever !!
skywise, i'll be damned... A respectful reply! Is this aicn?<p> Thx.
April 26, 2010, 2:09 p.m. CST
...Scott really needs to strive to preserve some continuity as far as the LOOK of the new movie. They need to stick with the 70's style sci-fi elements, and make us believe that the prequels were actually shot at the same time the original was. I want to see 70's haircuts, I want to see 70's clothing, I want it to be shot in a more "retro" style, ALMOST like the Planet Terror/Deathproof thing that was out a while back. If the prequels feature a shitload of shiny new tech, with everyone sporting 2010 duds, then it's going to feel disjointed, and inauthentic. I was immediately turned off by the look of the Star Wars prequels for exactly this reason, and I think a lot of people who didn't like them feel the same way. They just didn't "feel" right.
April 26, 2010, 2:12 p.m. CST
Well hell, when you got a good point you got a good point and i have no problems admiting when i might be wrong. Plus...i wouldnt want you to karate kid my ass!! LOL
April 26, 2010, 2:14 p.m. CST
At the retro dome in Saratoga, California. These two movies are so amazing that I'm afraid that a prequel or prequels would damage them, not unlike the way the Star Wars prequels damaged that franchise. I think the space jockey is a thing best left unexplored. It's the science fiction version of Stonehenge or the Pyramids of Giza or the Nazca Lines of Peru. Let it be a mystery. I think there are still many stories to tell about the aliens but I don't want to see an 'origin' movie. Take it further into the future.
April 26, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST
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April 26, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST
by Super Rabbi
...looks like an awesome grindhouse-type trailer though!
April 26, 2010, 2:59 p.m. CST
3 was pretty cool and stylish but missing something...4 was cool in parts but overall it was pretty weird and the plot made no sense..even for scifi.
April 26, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST
OK I've been poo-pooing this all over the TBs and I think I've got to say though that this has the possibility of being (a) good movie(s), but I'm extremely cautious. <BR><BR> If Scott is willing to go back and touch one of his finest movies, then I hope he is truly confident and interested in telling a real story, and not just writing something to fill all the dead air to attach his name to.<BR>We don't need another Star Wars. <BR><BR> I do think I'd rather see this than have someone else do it though.
April 26, 2010, 3:02 p.m. CST
It is a Ridley Scott movie after all.
April 26, 2010, 3:05 p.m. CST
Someone said that on the last TB and I actually had a dream about that last night. I actually dreamed of an Aliens, Predator and Avatar crossover, but I think Aliens vs. Navi could be cool enough. This is something that could only be done right in the hands of J.C.
April 26, 2010, 3:17 p.m. CST
Both relatively unknown directors take on comparatively low budget (next to mainstream fare) B-Movies. One a Haunted House fable, the other a stalker movie with sci-fi playgrounds to illustrate them. No mythos to respect or honour so they can play fast and loose with throwaway imagery to the viewer, coupled with no restraint to shock and awe viewers being age-restricted certificates. The directors were keen to cut their teeth and make a name for themselves, coupled with the influence to cast unknowns that didn't look like the traditional hero/heroines of Hollywood - just you're average everyday folk caught up in terror. <p> And now you have two franchises...that have none of that. So bloated, so caught up in their own mythos their expanding things that were previously throwaway, so popular the studios castrate them with 12 certificates and populate them with bland 'actor of the hour' types (Worthington) and insipid directors who (at best) say they wish to 'respect' the originals. Respect them? Live the spirit of them and to say 'lets give you something down and dirty'. <p> I genuinely want Ridley to throw a curveball. A mean and nasty B-Movie with maybe a small team of humans and a space jockey that can't speak any Language so has to communicate with visuals. You know - without splosions and CGI super-athlete aliens every two minutes.
April 26, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST
It's only marking the end of cinema. Not just cinema as we know it, but of cinema period. Orson Welles hit it pretty close to the mark. In '53 he said that cinema only had about 40 years left. Now there's a list a mile long of upcoming 3D features. Depressing. Just an unimpressive gimmick that's bad for your eyes. I'd rather just see well-composed, sharply choreographed 2D action. Watch some classics and expound upon the fundamentals, you uninspired hacks!
April 26, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST
April 26, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST
...for NO 3-D and send it to Ridley!
Autodidact haha! Thank you too!
April 26, 2010, 3:52 p.m. CST
The Aliens used to bleed acid, now they bleeds cash.
April 26, 2010, 3:59 p.m. CST
... is not only the best ALIEN trailer made, but it is THE BEST TRAILER EVER MADE!<br><br>That trailer should be used in film schools to teach how to properly advertise a movie and be faithful to it's mood and spirit, while spoiling absolutly nothing, specially the movie's big guns, the alien's look and chestbuster scene. This is how you do it.<br><br>I can see part of that lesson learned in the way they made the teasers for INCEPTION, another awesome example on how to make teasers that looks great, look incredibly intriguing and attactive, makes people want to see the movie and yet tells absolutly nothing about it.
April 26, 2010, 4 p.m. CST
Fuck that shit!! Just say no!
April 26, 2010, 4:03 p.m. CST
by Sir Loin
That was me, how cool that you had a dream about it! To recap, basically this: Pandora mining company slinks off and teams up with Weyland-Yutani for some alien eggs, which they spread all over the planet to distract the Na'vi. Of course, that was a stupid idea, and now we have Na'vi aliens running around that are 10 feet tall and even harder to kill. Imagine a Na'vi alien queen. Ooooh. Predators see the ultimate hunting opportunity and decide to pay a visit. BOOM!
April 26, 2010, 4:07 p.m. CST
by Rectal Blowout
for each prequel? One takes place 30 years prior to the Nostromo. That one might just be about the first team getting munched. Will the other take place thousands of years prior when the jockeys first met the aliens?
April 26, 2010, 4:16 p.m. CST
All I want is something that is in the same tone and style of the original! And I would love to see him do two prequels. He is the master, so why shouldn't he dig deep into it? That's a lot better than some hack doing it! This is truly great news. Hope it all works out.
April 26, 2010, 4:27 p.m. CST
If Ridley can stick to his guns and keep the pacing deliberate, I'd be so thrilled! There are plenty of fast-cut action films for the ADD generation, but I'd kill for something with the feel of a '70's horror flick again. Give me brooding horror and realistic dialogue. I'll buy three tickets to make up for the tweeners that just want to see the next Twilight flick.
April 26, 2010, 4:36 p.m. CST
you guys are missing the best idea. Have someone enter an Alien Avatar and infiltrate the hive or some shit. I've been saying this since the Avatar TB's
April 26, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST
...I would love to see a full-scale theatrical release of a 3D version of the Final Cut of Blade Runner.
April 26, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST
You do realise all these movies are still avalible in 2D right? Were you the same people hating on HD? (But now have a nice shiny 52" HDLCD in the living rooms I'll bet) I've been testing a few 3D TV's and video games and there pretty great, once the prices and content become more varied and available it will become nigh on mainstream.
April 26, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST
April 26, 2010, 4:48 p.m. CST
That trailer actually was used in film schools as an example of how to cut an effective trailer. My friend's brother talked about it when he came home one summer when I was a kid. We were both in awe (he was going to USC film and we were making super-8 crapfests.. but he did bring us b&w stock!!) while he told his tales of meeting famous directors. He was the reason I discovered the great "Stunt Man" film by Richard Rush from 1980. Turned out to be one of my first VHS purchases, at a very high price if I recall. Maybe 70 bucks? Good times.
April 26, 2010, 4:50 p.m. CST
Also a great example of a great poster. (Alien had a great poster as well) http://tinyurl.com/24uuad7
April 26, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST
Yup... you hit the nail on the head with your comment. <P> I was actually very VERY excited about ALIEN 4 back in '97, for which I thought Jeunet was the perfect choice as Director... that is if he had stuck to his European/indie roots. Instead it was the curtain call on the franchise until they got the bright idea to couple ALIENS with Predators. Kim Flowers ass shot, while appreciated, had nothing to do with A4s narrative. At that point it was all down hill. <P> A shame they went from a film that rises above the sum of its part to become art, in the case of ALIEN. To a well crafted action adventure film with ALIENS. To a very flawed, but intriguing Gothic nightmare with ALIEN3. To... well a run of the mill action film with monsters. And then some sub-par action movies in the same flavour as Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman. <P> With luck, Scott will bring this series to a close with some style.
April 26, 2010, 5:02 p.m. CST
by frank cotton
literally, wait for it, COMING AT YA! remember, you heard it here first. if they can't get GIGER, they should call me - i work cheap
April 26, 2010, 5:06 p.m. CST
The problem with revitalizing a commercial movie property that has been dead for many, many years is that they do NOT want to respectfully close the doors on the story and walk away. They pay all that money for movie rights so that they can show it off like if they had Bigfoot in a cage at the state fair. They want to exploit it for every penny they can possibly squeeze from it. If the ALIEN series does even moderately well, there will be a whole slew of horrifically-bad sequels following it for as long as they are able. The 3D is just to be able to charge an extra $3-$5 per movie and so the diminished theater patrons will still generate that much-needed 'bonus' revenue.
April 26, 2010, 5:13 p.m. CST
At least the old version of the script had it this way, and butt-fucking, lots of butt-fucking.</p><p>The funniest part is, you think I'm kidding.
April 26, 2010, 5:26 p.m. CST
You saw THE STUNT MAN? Good movie, don't you think? Very little known today, i'm afraid. I want to rewatch it. I really liked it.<br><br>Great to know that fantastic traielr for ALIEN was indeed used in film schools. Unfortunatly, it seems they were not teaching the the people who are making the trailers for today's movies. Because this is the worst era of trailers i ever seen in my whole life. Every trailer looks the same today. So much so, that wehn THE DARK KNIGHT trailers emerged, people were amazed and in awe, because those wee proper trailers designed to serve the movie as it should. Somewhere, a lesson is not being learned, don't you think?
April 26, 2010, 5:37 p.m. CST
Agreed... That is why I said "with luck." I hope Scott et al decides to do a one-off and make a film that that has a firm ending to it. But I wouldn't bet on it. My guess is FOX is going to try and launch a new series of films.
April 26, 2010, 5:37 p.m. CST
I always think of the SNL skit from 1986. Just as the ALIENS are about to attack, Ripley begins taking off her clothes. To which, Phil Hartman says, "C'mon Ripley! We've all seen your underwear!"<br><br> So, who's underwear do you want to see in this one?
April 26, 2010, 5:49 p.m. CST
but were not necessarily directly tied to the first few Alien films. Prequels tend to have the unfortunate side effect of hurting the original film.
April 26, 2010, 6:22 p.m. CST
Two prequels and then his first Alien film. This screams one thing - he LOATHES all the films that followed Alien, maybe he even secretly loathed Aliens as well. This is his way of saying "This is my fucking series, and when I'm done you'll forget all about Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection. MY Alien trilogy will be all that matters". Hopefully James Cameron will follow suit and make a prequel to The Terminator to complete his Terminator trilogy.
April 26, 2010, 6:29 p.m. CST
fully rendered, looks cool, but I've really yet to see anything live action that really blew me away or made for a better movie experience. Avatar was ok, but it was 95% animated anyway.
April 26, 2010, 6:47 p.m. CST
Surely a prequel(s) can do is mess up the feel of his original Alien movie. No way are they gonna honour what was seen in Alien, including how the characters looked, the tech, the ships etc. And Alien should be the first time humans encounter the Xenomorphs (forget about AvP). You DON'T NEED to show anything before the moment Alien starts. Same went for Star Wars, we did NOT need to see the fucking Clone Wars, they should always have been left as this great mystical war that Anakin and Obi-Wan fought in when they were best buddies, Anakin being the greatest pilot in the galaxy (something shown in the prequels for all of 30 seconds lol). The Star Wars prequels prove that prequels should not be made. I would much prefer Alien 5 with Sigourney Weaver and Scott reunited.
April 26, 2010, 6:48 p.m. CST
Yes, The Stint Man is one of my all-time favorites. Director as god! Literally worshiped that film when I was a kid. "get the shot!! get the shot!!"... And yeah, I agree. A lesson is definitely being ignored there. Far too many trailers are either 100% money shots, leaving no big surprises or just give the whole movie away.. beginning, middle and end.. usually in order as well. The great part about that Alien trailer is that it really does convey the mood of the film, honestly. It's not hyping it, the movie itself easily lives up to the promise of the trailer. Of course this works only with good films that truly do live up to the trailers. Another great example of how a trailer can be cut to be dishonest is that The Shining trailer, re-cut to make it look like a romantic family comedy/drama.<br><br> http://tinyurl.com/ptcbv4 <br><br>
April 26, 2010, 6:50 p.m. CST
April 26, 2010, 7:12 p.m. CST
sounds fuckin awesome bro. No seriously though, this is the description of a film studio squatting over a target audience and taking a giant, oily shit that has to break in half because it can't even support it's own structure. You know, the one the first half breaks off and you just keep shitting and shitting, and when the caboose of that shittrain finally plops into the toilet, you get up and look down at the damage, only all you can see is the 2nd piece? But you know that first piece is still there, somewhere in the darkness of the back of the bowl? That is the Alien Prequel in 3D.
April 26, 2010, 7:18 p.m. CST
The only thing ANY ALIEN fan is interested in seeing, is what happens when these fuckers reach Earth. That's all we've cared about since ALIENS. And it's the one thing every movie avoids. Do it. I know it's hard, I know it's a giant, intimidating project, but you need to end this series by giving us a *good* ALIENS movie about what happens when they hit Earth.
April 26, 2010, 7:23 p.m. CST
at one time, hyped when it was used, every time. So was sound. Some, although not as many since the average Joe didn't have a world-wide public forum available to him with the click of a button, even predicted that both of these were not just novelties, but fads. The problem with looking at it this way is that the real world is filled with sound, color and dimension. I'm afraid that once this way of presenting stories is perfected (and it is damned close), we're stuck with it. And just as those who are colorblind (some not even knowing it)cannot truly appreciate color films, those with trouble perceiving depth are going to have a hard time enjoying 3d films/tv/games. But I think we can all look forward to one result of the adaptation of 3d by the masses. Honest to goodness real 3d, fully immersive Virtual Reality will finally arrive. Remember how we were promised that back as far as the late 80s? Then in the 90s it arrived in malls and gaming centers, was overpriced and featured graphics that, while honestly immersive, were flat and looked ten years old? If you every tried one of those systems, you'd know what I was talking about. You moved your head and the scenery filling your eyes changed with your movement. It was low-rez, but genuinely conveyed a sense of being IN a place. For me, at least, it was unforgettable. And also the world's most horrible tease, since the failure of "Virtuality" centers sent a message to everyone with money to invest that it was something to avoid like the plague. Everything stopped. The only people who continued to invest in and develop advancements were Universities and the military. And from what I've seen and heard, they really did make some huge advancements. 3D in the home is going to lead to the return of head-tracking and head-mounted displays, eventually. Again. And soon after, retinal display technology, which safely projects an image on each eye, in some examples, completely filling your field of vision. Resulting in complete immersion. Finally. You know you want it. Why just watch a story when you can take part in it? With others. Anywhere. Any time. Looking at and looking like anything you want. Just imagine the advanced graphics of a game like Crysis, in 3d, filling your vision. The scene changes when you look up, or down, left or right. Just like reality. <br><br> http://tinyurl.com/2a5lywp <br><br> Low rez example from last year.<br><br>The first few times I tried it (vr, not Crysis)(and you still could last time I went to Dave and Busters, which was a few years ago) I honestly did get nauseous. But the next few times, it went away and I was instead left with a sense that I had been in a place. An "other" place. It's hard to describe and impossible to duplicate without that specific technology.. being true 3d with head tracking. You don't forget that feeling. It sticks with you. Cameron wished he could come close to duplicating this sense of place, and to a certain point he did, but to truly experience it you MUST have the ability to move around the space and look around naturally as you would if you were standing on Pandora, sneaking upskirts of Navi in the trees above. Had to go there. Sorry. The bottom line, to use a cliche, is that you may see it as a fad or a trend or a novelty. And it may be some of those things, but this time around the numbers tell a different story. The most successful film of all time is in 3d, 3d tvs are being sold like hotcakes with only one blu-ray 3d title (and a crappy one at that) available. I'm afraid it's here to stay. The thing we need to remember is that this novelty will eventually wear off and true artists and craftsmen (I do believe in film this is an important distinction.. Cameron is a craftsman and deserves praise for being one, just as much as an artist like Malick does) will approach 3d in different ways, adapting to the medium once the immediate novelty wears off. It may eventually lead to an abandonment of new 2d films and tv. But those days are far, far off. The first thing that will happen is a dropping off of large budget 2d films. Then TV will adapt once the sets are in homes. Then *fingers crossed*, gaming will adapt and if we don't get head-tracking and head-mounted displays, at least we'll get truly 3d games. And places like Second Life will go 3d, up the rez.. and we'll have a PLACE to visit. That's ultimately the reward for the adoption of 3d. To hell with the movies, I want to visit the PLACES. Just my opinion though. Feel free to be short-sighted, wrong and negative about it. ;)
April 26, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST
OH that sounds like a blast. Totally jealous.
April 26, 2010, 7:28 p.m. CST
Big battle between aliens and humans...again. Who wants that? Firstly. it'll have to be PG-13 because the cost will be astronomical. So its essentially a kid's film with watered down action and no gore. And you've already seen it twice - AVP and AVP 2. And still you shitters scream for an alien film on Earth and you bitch about a prequel with supremo Ridley Scott at the helm. Sometimes I think you lot DESERVE the wet shit that H-Wood feeds you.
April 26, 2010, 7:33 p.m. CST
April 26, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST
and are every bit as unnecessary.
April 26, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST
Another great SNL Aliens skit was many years later ( 93? ) when Paul Reiser was doing Mad about you, and they did a special "Mad about you, Aliens". I was rolling on the floor laughing at the time ... they redid the title sequences for the TV show and everything. It was awesome.
April 26, 2010, 9:06 p.m. CST
But no way the're going to keep the slow-build pacing of the original Alien. The ADHD kids won't tolerate that. At least make them R-rated- fuck PG-13.
April 26, 2010, 9:18 p.m. CST
April 26, 2010, 9:20 p.m. CST
It still brought us some good pictures.Creature from the Black Lagoon was 3D<p> Didn't Hitchcock shoot Dial M for Murder with the intention of releasing it in 3D? (I dont know if that ever actually happened)
April 26, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST
Would be nice to see the original 3d version re-released using the original elements, transferred to the new 3d format. Was it dial M for murder? I think it was. That's what needs to happen. We need films that don't NEED to be or would not be expected to be 3d to use the technology. Like a great thriller, or a drama. Those first big color films were all tentpole productions. Same is happening now with the exceptions ALL being genre flicks.
April 26, 2010, 9:53 p.m. CST
And remakes, prequels and sequels have been around for as long as hollywood.<p> Aliens on earth would be boring, it would be a biological transformers. I'm more interested in exploring how that wreck they explored in the beginning of the first movie got to be that way.
April 26, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST
April 26, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST
by Crimson Dynamo
at this point the whole human protagonist vs alien thing may be played out. a good sci-fi movie centered around the space jockey might be what this series needs
April 26, 2010, 10:19 p.m. CST
This is getting ridiculous. This is sounding like a bunch of fucking suits in a committee meeting making decisions.<p> An "Alien" prequel is bad enough, for the reasons many others have stated.<p> But fucking two?<p> Unless they hire a Nebula Award-winning novel writer like Dan Simmons or Peter Watts to write a story upon which the screenplay will be based, forget it. This is what it's like when suits make a movie.<p> Ridley who?
April 26, 2010, 10:29 p.m. CST
This will suck, huge. Just wait.
April 26, 2010, 10:35 p.m. CST
...repeatedly on here I see ridculous spelled rediculous. The second letter is an i not an e. It comes from the same root word as ridicule. (Also spelled with an i.)
April 26, 2010, 10:41 p.m. CST
Gabourey Sidibe writhing through a space craft attempting to escape the alien hive's clutches.
April 26, 2010, 11:05 p.m. CST
April 26, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST
by DARTH VOODOO
The first two are classics... Part 3 and 4 are cheap knockoffs and the Alien vs Predator films are trash (although) I don't really consider them "Alien" movies.
April 26, 2010, 11:16 p.m. CST
UHF: Drink from the Firehose in 3D! Give it a break...jebus
April 26, 2010, 11:19 p.m. CST
I for one am glad when James Cameron finally said he detested Alien 3 & 4. At one point there was talk about Scott & Cameron doing an Alien movie together but it never panned out. My idea is that they should have the events of Alien3 be just a bad dream in hypersleap. After all if Victoria Principle could dream up an entire season of Dallas, then Sigourney Weaver could just as easily dream up a bad Alien movie, after all, Sigourney is a much better actress than Victoria. And the Predator / Alien movies were stupid as well.
April 26, 2010, 11:23 p.m. CST
forget about Alien 3 & 4, while i don't hate Alien 3, it definitely ruined the franchise just by the events...even if the movie itself wasn't horrible. Pull a Star Trek and say those 2 movies were an alternate reality, no need to mention it on screen, just get Michael Behn and a new girl to play Newt.
April 27, 2010, 12:23 a.m. CST
Ridley needs to hand this to someone who knows what they're doing like Ratner.
April 27, 2010, 12:46 a.m. CST
Ridiculous is a word I misspell on a regular basis. Are you familiar with the word autism?
April 27, 2010, 12:58 a.m. CST
April 27, 2010, 1:10 a.m. CST
you sir or madam, made me laugh. also, while an earth war would be cool, it wouldn't really be "Alien" would it? I like how all we see of the future is a ship or two...no Earth. It makes it all seem so distant. BTW I never saw Resurrection after the forgettable Alien 3 (I think my high school mind was expecting a cool sequel to Aliens, not a Jesus story)
April 27, 2010, 1:27 a.m. CST
This is awesome news and all is forgiven. Cant wait to see this. If it sucks ill just pretend it never happened.
April 27, 2010, 1:40 a.m. CST
So Sir Ridley would rather spend his energies on something NEW rather than 3-D the original ALIEN? Don't believe a word of it. Sooooo - what NEW thing can we expect? A remake of Captain Blood? Remake of Metropolis? Remake of Papillion? I'll believe it when Scott annonces it. Right now, he's going through old film libraries for his subjects...
April 27, 2010, 2:06 a.m. CST
You do know, don't you? That Ridley Scott is genuinely excited by 3-D, and ever since playing around with Cameron's toys wants to do an Aline movie not only in 3-D but also using a bit of Cameron's virtual cinema stuff? So the 3-D decision was always his and it was clear that thats what he wanted to do Nobody forced him to do it, it was what got him excited to do another alien in the first place! Wer it not for 3-D, you wouldn't be getting this film! That and this other news has already long been covered by MarketSaw.
April 27, 2010, 2:09 a.m. CST
...what I wouldn't give to have seen ALIENS in AVATAR-level of 3D immersion.
April 27, 2010, 2:49 a.m. CST
can't they just make 1 good one?
April 27, 2010, 3:45 a.m. CST
by Azlam Orlandu
April 27, 2010, 4:31 a.m. CST
by ol' painless
It sincerely was one of the worst pieces of shit I had the misfortune to drag my eyes over. If its a hoax, its a pretty elaborate one. Which terrifies me that portions of it will be retained in the re-write.
April 27, 2010, 5:19 a.m. CST
Come on. Space Jockey? Prequel? 3D bonanza!?!?! This will live and die with the script. Everything else will just accentuate the goodness or badness of it all.
April 27, 2010, 6:04 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
Because the only thing that stayed in my mind after the first movie - after watching one of the most finely crafted horror movies ever made - was "who or what was the elephant skeleton dude in the telescope chair?".<P> Besides, they answered this question in the DARK HORSE ALIENS comics. nd I was happy with their explanation. WHY the hell won't anyone tackle an Aliens-take-over-the-Earth movie? The comics for that were pretty fucking sweet (loved the DARWIN WAS RIGHT scrawl on a blackboard in a classroom full of shredded human bodies), and for sheer spectacle, that would be amazing to watch. You'd need a decent script - but surely some of the early ALIEN writers must still be alive?? Back the money truck up to their houses, let's get a decent ALIEN sequel underway. Oh, and let's get over the Ripley thing - unless you have her show up right at the end of the movie.
April 27, 2010, 6:25 a.m. CST
April 27, 2010, 6:48 a.m. CST
by I AM ROCKO
Prequels- they ruin the mystery and magic behind a series- as much we thought "Oh i would love to see Obi fight and Anakin and him fall in lava..." did it live up to expectations- NO OF COURSE NOT! Nothing could- same with Alien. If Scott wants to do another one, make a sequel Alien 4- have it set 200 years after the fourth film. No Ripley, society and Earth has been rebuilt with the assitance of nano technology from humans- everything is super clean and modern, society was on the brink of destruction as was mankind- then bosh- they discover the Alien planet etc- humanity under threat again etc. Make it dark, moody, introspective, bring back Giger!
April 27, 2010, 6:51 a.m. CST
Only ONE of the movies with a clip in the video for the Paramount Film Festival in Austin is actually on the 2010 schedule. Just one. Was that a previous year's promo video?
April 27, 2010, 7:05 a.m. CST
I think she would have a nice, clean vageena.
April 27, 2010, 7:45 a.m. CST
I love that THE SHINING "traile,r that make sit look like a family comedy. It's seocnd only to that other trailer that turns BIG into a dark thriller about a paedophile. I don't know which f the two is funnier. But indeed there's a lesson in that joke, in that a bad trailer ruins a movie, and you can pratically make a movie look like anything a trailer editor wants.<br><br>And since you spoke about THE SHINING, the real trailer of that movie, the one with the elevator doors opening to a flood of blood, that's also one of the best trailer ever made, and again, and liek ALIEN's, it totally convey the mood of the movie and the movie itself lives up to it.<br><br>I just wish that trailers were more honest. I do beleive if all trailers were far more honest, they would service the movie so much more. I have no doubt that a misleading trailer will indeed hurt the commercial chances of a movie. A misleading trailer is like a deliberate con.
April 27, 2010, 8:01 a.m. CST
I don't remember them being the Awesome! but I don't remember them sucking either. Same with the Dark Horse Terminator series... <p> I'd rather see honestly a Alien reboot of sorts. Set it on an orbiting habitat- something ringworld(I've never played HALO, but I hear they have some sort of habitat ring thing?) or bizarre. I don't know. Right above the freaking Earth so we can at least get a visceral threat to ol' home Blue but where we don't have to have some spiffy Caprica-like world to be locked in on. I'd involve some Synth-Human/Human open warfare, going so far as to have the Synthies just as delicious to the Aliens, maybe even a catalyst for a nastier, more dangerous breed of self replicating Aliens. Instead of just that friendly chopper tonguing, perhaps they slide a lil bugger(or buggers) down you screaming throat, that proceeds to eat you alive. The finale will be Matthew Broderick playing a vintage Missle Command game trying to knock out the escape pods from the station before they seed the Earth with Alien vermin!!! *Just kidding*
April 27, 2010, 8:39 a.m. CST
by Ivor Heath
Can't say I\m surprisd about this as Ridley has talked about making an origin film ever since he made the first one, just a shame it's taken so long to do it. Will it suck? Theres always that possiblity, but I'm still hugely excited to see a new A L I E N film from the man who started the whole thing in the first place, just to see his take on it after all these years. If it does suck, I'll still have the original to enjoy anyway. Hope there's some dedication to the late Dan O' Bannon in the credits also, though if Hill and Giler have anything to do with it that will probly never happen.
April 27, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST
The first trailer is very typical of the trailers made back then. It might look goofy, but most normal traielrs look goofy after a while. Sometime,s traielrs look goofy even during their time, like today's trailers.<br><br>But the second trailer shown above is a classic. The best trailer ever made bar none.
April 27, 2010, 9:18 a.m. CST
Wish more trailers today had this type of mood behind it, but these days they look more like glossy versions of the first trailer.
April 27, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST
by Royston Lodge
That would kick so much ass...
April 27, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST
Otherwise, get ready for more glossy shit that moves way too fast. Rated Pg-13. With Sam Worthington as the "avatar" Space Jockey and Justin Timberlake as the fussy robot. Filmed on green screen in Costa Mesa. With a giant dildo for a spaceship.
April 27, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST
Sounds much smarter than hastily converting it. Plus, im sure Cameron will aid in his technical endeavors. Im willing to see this in 3D if done the right way ie AvATAR. ALSO, CGI...If WETA does the Practical effects along with CGI, the im ALLLL for it. But they would would have to keep the CGI minimized to larger space and or world shots, and maybe...a hoard of aliens... :D. WETA could rock the crap outa this movie
April 27, 2010, 4:16 p.m. CST
As great as the first Alien was, why on earth would you want every movie to be the same? Aliens was a fucking miracle...if Cameron hadn't come along and delivered one of the greatest sequels ever, we would have likely gotten an Alien rip-off directed by some major hack. After the two travesties that came after Aliens and the AVP abominations, I can maybe understand longing from the restrained atmosphere of the original, but still the last thing we need is an inferior carbon copy of Alien. In a way I'm glad the new Alien movie is with a capable director, however given Scotts recent films, and the fact that the prequel angle could fail miserably, I'm on the fence. It would suck to ruin Scotts Alien affiliation with him delivering a shit film...but I'll retain hope.
April 27, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST
Just like how nobody gave a fuck about the shitty Terminator prequel.
April 27, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST
by Teddy Artery
Ridley is out of ideas and grasping at earlier greatness. The barn door's been open too long.
April 27, 2010, 5:11 p.m. CST
He saw every POS made... I only vaguely remember A3, which I probably saw because of Fincher and A4, I think I rented because, Hey, it's done by the guy who did The City of Lost Children!!!
April 27, 2010, 6:57 p.m. CST
...like a fist through a jar of green expired mayonnaise. I should have known when I saw Snoopy-Poopy-Dog sharing the stage with Vader to pimp Adidas shoes.
April 27, 2010, 8:34 p.m. CST
That rad story from Doctor Who the "Ark in Space" where humans in hypersleep ended up having bug like aliens lay eggs in them. Really awful special effects but that show freaked the shit out of me when I was a kid. On top of that Doctor Who kind of ripped off A.E. Van Vogt's story the "Black Destroyer" and the "Voyage of the Space Beagle." In the end Scott's visual style: cinematography, set desgin, (Giger's) Alien, eerie tone, and horror movie feel are what make this flick a classic. Cameron and Scott are just good at taking golden age SF tropes and re-packaging them in very well executed film adaptations.
April 27, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST
I dont care about these new films,even though they are being made by the master himself.I really dont like what they have officially announced until now about the project.mr Ridley you should know better,one of the things that made Alien so fucking brilliant was the MYSTERY surrounding the origin of the alien,the space jockey and the crashed spaceship with the eggs.<br /><p>we dont want prequels explaining anything about the aliens,regardless how great will be.if you want to revive the franchise,just make an Alien 3 movie which will ignore A3,A4,AVP1,AVP2,with Ripley kicking alien-ass on earth.You could even use Weaver's avatar if there is problem with her age.HA.
April 28, 2010, 12:55 a.m. CST
Search your feelings... you know it to be true
April 28, 2010, 4:09 a.m. CST
Has the trailer music ever been on any soundtracks???
April 28, 2010, 4:20 a.m. CST
Why do the aliens always have to raech earth in every fan boys head. Ripley was striving to stop it. Earth is never really seen in the earlier films either. Also depicting earth would date the film horribly and it would be like a 70s disaster film like Earthquake. No the aliens dont reach earth... Its always the same. Aliens - they reach earth. Predators - only predators with subtitles. Terminatot - future war. Star Wars - sequals with out Lucas. CHANGE THE RECORD!!! See some other films too!!!
April 28, 2010, 4:57 a.m. CST
by ol' painless
This clown Spaihts tried something different with the ALIEN HARVEST script, and we ended up with forced anal sex. So be careful what you wish for . . .
April 28, 2010, 5:32 a.m. CST
sounds like a Jodorowski film rather than an Alien film but it least it has good elements. I am sick off alll the fan boys saying the same thing in unison. The film is set in space with a whole universe to stretch into and all people want is a film set on earth. People always complain about the imagination of Holywood writers but the sum total of the all people here seems to be 2 scripts all toally rediculous...
April 28, 2010, 8:32 a.m. CST
Greenlight those Prequels, Ridley! I always wanted to see what the space jockey race was like. Also Giger has to come back to design the the alien creatures and its habitat.
April 28, 2010, 9:01 a.m. CST
Shut the fuck up with your sensitive eyeballs. 3-D in-depth-of-field is the future of visual entertainment wether you like it or not !
April 28, 2010, 7:47 p.m. CST
Shitty 3d conversions. AVATAR is the BEST 3d ive seen to date...havent seen IMAX HUBBLE yet, but i heard it was phenomenal
May 3, 2010, 6:40 p.m. CST
but i dont see doing that.hm i wonder why..