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Carl Macek, the Man Who Brought Us Robotech, Passes Away

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On Cartoon Brew, Jerry Beck has reported that his Streamline Pictures co-founder Carl Macek passed Saturday of a heart attack at age 58. Macek may be best known for localizing Tatsunoko sci-fi The Super Dimension Fortress Macross, The Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross, and Genesis Climber MOSPEADA as the perennially popular Robotech. Also at Harmony Gold, he localized Captain Harlock and the Queen of a Thousand Years. His and Beck's Streamline pictures imported Akira, Hayao Miyazaki's Lupin III: Castle of Cagliostro and Laputa, Barefoot Gen, Lensman, Robot Carnival, Doomed Megalopolis, Fist of the North Star, Twilight of the Cockroaches, Crying Freeman and Wicked City. He also produced the original English language dub of Miyazaki's My Neighbor Totoro. More recent work included the dub on ADV's release 80's fantasy/sci-fi Aura Battler Dunbine and their Lady Death original production, as well as script work on Naruto and Bleach for Viz. Macek had his detractors, but his significance in shaping the history of anime in North America is undeniable. He was truly a key figure in popularizing the medium. An extensive interview from last October can be heard on ANNCast

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  • April 19, 2010, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Thanks Carl...

    by Fifthrate

    Your contribution will not be forgotten.

  • April 19, 2010, 7:36 a.m. CST

    RIP Sir

    by ominus

    many thanks for Robotech and Captain Harlock

  • April 19, 2010, 7:41 a.m. CST

    I second the "Thanks Carl..."

    by tylerzero

  • April 19, 2010, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Akira changed the way I watch movies

    by IEatHippies

    Thanks Carl

  • April 19, 2010, 8:02 a.m. CST

    Good to know more about the man behind these.

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Sure, he didn't create them, but he brought them to America and gave us a whole new experience. Alas, Sentinels did suck, but all three Robotech sagas were incredible. Fist of the Northstar was incredible.

  • April 19, 2010, 8:04 a.m. CST

    OMG. This is horrible.

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    RIP, brother. Thanks for bringing me the saga of Rick Hunter and Lynn Minmei.

  • April 19, 2010, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Good Tribute

    by ScottGreen

    Jonathan Clements has written a fitting tribute on his Schoolgirl Milky Crisis blog http://is.gd/bzhi1

  • April 19, 2010, 8:30 a.m. CST

    RIP a truly talented man.

    by Sithtastic

    Though I was way too young to appreciate the staff who brought us anime before many of us even knew what that was (in the US) Macek's passing really throws into sharp relief how far we have come because of men like him. May he rest in peace.

  • April 19, 2010, 8:32 a.m. CST

    RIP Carl

    by Spyhunter

    I didn't get into Robotech until the Toonami run, 6 AM was too early for me! Glad I got to see it though, my condolences to his friends & family.

  • April 19, 2010, 8:32 a.m. CST

    R.I.P

    by theDannerDaliel

  • April 19, 2010, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Sad news indeed

    by UCB Agent1

    Growing up, Robotech was my favorite cartoon, or at least tied with GI Joe and Transformers. RIP sir.

  • April 19, 2010, 8:45 a.m. CST

    I didn't agree with his methods or his opinions

    by GodMars

    But he helped bring anime to a generation of fans. Happy trails, Carl.

  • April 19, 2010, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Thanks for all your contributions Carl

    by Stalkeye

    after being exposed to robotech, it set the precedant for me to futher gather an interest in anime. streamline Pictures localized a few great gems like golgo 13 the professional,8-man after and wicked city just to name a few. sorry that his sentinels project never really got off the ground.here's hoping the live action robotech film will become a reality. god bless you macek and the entertainment medium is all the more better for your support within anime.

  • April 19, 2010, 8:51 a.m. CST

    as much as I loved GIJoe

    by Stalkeye

    Robotech was a far better product. it had pathos,(Roy Folker's death was unforgettable!!) actual violence and a great storyline pieced from three different unrelated tatsunoko series. Nah, he didnt get lucky, he had talent behind his passion.

  • April 19, 2010, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Revolutionized cartoons

    by nssdigitalchumps

    Robotech was by far one of the best series to come out of the 80s. Characters drank, smoked, and lived like actual human beings (set in a sci-fi world, of course). Macek helped bring it all together and he did one helluva job. Too bad Robotech II didn't take off; it could have been great.

  • April 19, 2010, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Serious animation for kids in the 80s... Thank you, Carl

    by The Marquis de Side 3

    ROBOTECH was that rare TV show that took its viewers seriously. As 1980s kids between 6 and 12 watched it, it was refreshing for them because it never pandered down to them or treated them as "kids", as many shows did (and still do). There was adventure, there was excitement, but nothing was more impactful on us growing up than seeing characters struggle through some real life ordeals and choices (ex: love, death, military daily life, etc.), set against a fantastical world of sci fi alien invasions. The show was mind expanding, and mind blowing... Thank you Carl Macek for bringing this kind of mature story telling to us, at a time we really needed it.

  • April 19, 2010, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Methods?

    by John Maddening

    He took three different series that were each too short for US syndication and put them together so we could enjoy them, thus allowing serious storytelling anime to get a foothold in America. And all when he was about 30 years old. Pretty awesome.

  • April 19, 2010, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Terrible News

    by The Dreaded Rear Admiral

    I rented a butt-ton of Streamline movies from the local rental store back in the day. Loved the most of 'em (Golgo 13), but oddly, I never watched Robotech. I read the Antarctic Press version, but never watched the series.

  • April 19, 2010, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Robotech Theme

    by neonsocks

    Thank you Carl. The opening theme music to Robotech will forever remind me of my childhood.

  • April 19, 2010, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Met Mr. Macek back in the day

    by alienboy170

    This gentle man created the world of Robotech that I lived in back in the mid/late 80's and I was overjoyed when he appeared at a local Robotech/manga/anime convention held here in Pittsburgh. Got his autograph and shook his hand and thanked him for the great work he's done creating the Robotech universe. His talent will be greatly missed.

  • April 19, 2010, 9:53 a.m. CST

    I owe you, good Sir..

    by Billyeveryteen

    Truly, rest in peace.

  • April 19, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    His obituary is rumored to be

    by MurderMostFowl

    His obituary is rumored to actually be 3 different obituaries... from a 35 year old guy guy from the Bronx, a 57 year old Indiana Hoosier, and an 18 year old girl from Beverly Hills. The three were combined into one obituary through editing and rewriting of certain sections. <BR><BR> Rest in Peace, Mr Macek. As much as people complained over the years, it was non deserving. You introduced multiple generations to a medium they would otherwise have never encountered.

  • April 19, 2010, 10:12 a.m. CST

    This...Sucks.

    by Leto III

    RIP, Carl. As a lifelong ROBOTECH fanatic, you really played a huge role in shaping this 33-year-old's former childhood.<p>And fuck all the fucking otaku-nerd fanboy-haters who've ripped on you over the years -- just by bringing us ROBOTECH, you already accomplished far, far more in your life than any of them probably will end up doing.

  • April 19, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Also, ROBOTECH II: THE SENTINELS was the shit.

    by Leto III

    ...Not "shit," as some people would lead you to believe. I'll always be mourning the fact that we never got to see it completed. Veritech Hover Tanks fighting alongside Alpha Fighters? Could've been total awesomeness.<p>(ROBOTECH 3000, on the other hand...)

  • April 19, 2010, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Exo-Squad!

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    Doesn't anyone remember Exo-Squad?? Best American "Anime" ever! IGN sure didn't remember it, those punks. <p> Anyway, rest in peace sir, your contribution will be remembered. </p>

  • April 19, 2010, 10:35 a.m. CST

    re: Exo-Squad

    by ScottGreen

    is tangentially relevant to Robotech. Playmates Toys tried to do a joint revival of Exo-Squad and Robotech toys.

  • April 19, 2010, 10:43 a.m. CST

    ROBOTECH was the best show of the Eighties by far.

    by Tacom

    Great animation, great and the technology and great music. Romance, drama, people actually got killed. That was amazing to watch when I was a kid.

  • April 19, 2010, 10:48 a.m. CST

    RIP

    by Dingbatty

  • April 19, 2010, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Lensman

    by BuckminsterOhare

    Any chance 'The Secret of the Lens' will ever make it to DVD?

  • April 19, 2010, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Cannot say I'm sorry to see him gone.

    by TheCap

    I want to respect the passing of a fellow human being into The Void, but I can't - not for Carl Macek. He brutalized three classic anime series into a babyfood slop of his own badly imaginged creation. Every time I've seen Robotech, I've longed for this day, and now that it's here, I'll celebrate it. I'm very sorry for his friends and family - I'm sure they've lost a much loved soul - but I'm happy he won't have the chance to further deficate on more quality anime. He was a talentless hack, and that's how real anime fans will remember him. That is all.

  • April 19, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Damn...

    by Prof_Ender

    Sure he was a controversial figure, but if it weren't for him I wouldn't be typing this while a Robotech figure stares at me. Thank you Mr. Macek.

  • April 19, 2010, 11:10 a.m. CST

    RIP

    by freerangecelt

    Go gently...

  • April 19, 2010, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Last Season of Exo-Squad tried to tie in Robotech

    by Squashua

    From what I could gather, at the very end of the last season cliffhanger of Exo-Squad, they were going to have the Invid Invasion appear; I believe those were the aliens who warped everything in the final episode. I heard it was going to be revealed that the events of Macross took place prior to the events of Exo-Squad, and the toys they were releasing (they did release several re-dos of Robotech toys under the Exo-Squad header) were going to tie in somehow. It was going to be SDF 1 / SDF 3 and the Exo-Squad and the Zentradei vs. The Invid.

  • April 19, 2010, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Forgot to wish my condolences.

    by BuckminsterOhare

  • April 19, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Exo-Squad / Robotech - I prove myself incorrect

    by Squashua

    Per http://tinyurl.com/y2ojg6r , apparently the writers had no idea of the Robotech deal till the show was pretty much canceled, but I see how it could be worked into the plots.

  • April 19, 2010, 11:55 a.m. CST

    I know, that's why I brought it up

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    I'm still peeved IGN didn't include it and got the order way wrong on many of the shows (much less forgetting Gumby all together), but am glad they at least threw Robotech up there.

  • April 19, 2010, 12:29 p.m. CST

    All Anime fans owe you their thanks

    by baaba_pappa

    Yeah, they may not always have been accurate translations, but without your work who knows if anime would have even broken through in the way it did. Also, thank you for the hours of entertainment

  • April 19, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Maybe he was a decent man...

    by Roketopunch

    I'm sure that he was loved by his family. However, I don't like what he did with some great anime and put them through the ringer. He basically butchered SDF Macross, Genesis Climber Mospeada, and SOuthern Cross to make a buck. I am not saddened at all by his passing and can't respect him for dumbing down some awesome anime.

  • April 19, 2010, 12:56 p.m. CST

    WE LOVE YOU, CARL!

    by SeXX ED

    Thanks for all the memories from the greatest show of the 80's. My condolences to all your loved ones. Rest in peace.

  • April 19, 2010, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Does this have any effect on the legal wrangling?

    by Royston Lodge

    I was disheartened recently when I read that, due to the ongoing legal wranglings over copyrights, any live-action Robotech movie would focus on Southern Cross and The Masters rather than the Macross Saga.<p> Does the passing of Mr. Macek have any effect on said legal wranglings?<p> On a similar note, is there any chance that Robotech-based mech designs might return to the Battletech universe?

  • April 19, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST

    re: legal matters

    by ScottGreen

    No, this sad news doesn't effect the standings of Harmony Gold, Big West, Tatsunoko, ect.

  • April 19, 2010, 1:17 p.m. CST

    I met Macek!

    by Henry Fool

    I met Carl Macek when I was thirteen years old at the 1989 San Diego Comic Convention (now known as Comic Con International) and ever year thereafter up to 1992. He was always very cordial and intelligent.<br /> <br /> His company, Streamline Pictures, were the first ones to give us English versions of Akira, Laputa and Lensman. I was a big fan of the Akira manga and he was a real hero of mine for bringing Otomo's feature to North American screens. Even though his dubbings were of marginal quality, he also released a subtitled version of the Japanese version of Akira on VHS a good ten years before the DVD arrived.<br /> <br /> Robotech was not a great work of art. It was really a mesh of three unrelated Japanese series. But it introduced a lot of people to anime and I can't think of any one single westerner who did as much to popularize anime in American culture as Carl Macek. He was truly a visionary. I hope he is remembered for his contributions and I am sorry to hear of his passing. I will always have fond memories of the time I got to spend talking to him.

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  • April 19, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Robotech/Macross

    by threesixtee

    The way I understand it, most people remember the first saga of Robotech, which was Macross. Macek wanted to bring over Macross to America but it did not have enough episodes for syndication, so he joined it with the other two series to make a longer show, and edited some key points of the plot to mesh them together. I am moreso a fan of Macross than Robotech, but I would not have been introduced to Macross without Robotech. Thanks are owed to the man for trying to bring alot of material over here that we wouldn't have been able to see otherwise.

  • April 19, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Get over it kids!

    by Josstossesthesalad

    Carl Macek revolutionized animation in the United States and he should be missed for his contributions in bringing anime to the West. Why do tons of anime fans hate him? Oh, he messed with translations. Any work that is translated looses some of its original feel. Besides, most of the anime fans I've seen only download the stuff illegally and bitch about how it sucks when kids watch Pokemon and Naruto. Get over yourselves! The stuff that Macek brought over was good. Compare Akira and Robot Carnival to some of the new androgenous for no reason fangirl bullshit. Do you see a difference. Anime fans need to understand that almost all anime is weird for the sake of being weird and of no value. Just because something is weird doesn't make it good and noteworthy. Miss you Carl Macek.

  • April 19, 2010, 2:48 p.m. CST

    sorry

    by Josstossesthesalad

    Loses instead of looses and there should be a "?" after difference.

  • April 19, 2010, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Outside of Macross..

    by Stalkeye

    ..both Mospeada and Southern Cross were very mediocre series.Macek did Tatsunoko a favor by incorporating fresh concepts within both series and made them all the more better. Sorry otakus, that's the way it is.<p>getdefuck over it.

  • April 19, 2010, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Thank you, Uncle Carl...

    by AkiraKaneda

    Anime might not even exist in its current form without Carl Macek. Not to give him too much credit, but he opened up the American market for anime and brought countless numbers into the fold. I've been writing articles on anime for over twenty years now, and it goes back to my teen years when I got up an hour early just to get chores done so I could watch Robotech. I can't fully describe the effect the show has had on my life. Robotech was a visionary reworking that made it possible to get anime on the air in an era of nothing but shows geared to sell toys. Prayers for his family and loved ones.

  • April 19, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Carl Macek gave me a great gift

    by smackfu

    in Robotech as a child. Not only was it a dark, serious dramatic cartoon at a time when all other cartoons were silly fluff, but I often wonder what effect it had on me as on a small child to have a cartoon show him the entire planet being destroyed by aliens, 3 times over? This and the original 'V' were some of the first shows I ever remember watching. I'm sure they played a big part in the formation of my personality, and were no doubt crucial to my affinity to bleak dystopias and Armageddon films.

  • April 19, 2010, 4:29 p.m. CST

    I have to thank Macek for some of best comedy films ever made

    by BadWaldosRevenge

    Macek-dubbed films like FIST OF NORTH STAR and GOLGO 13: THE PROFESSIONAL have deadpan yet hysterical dialogues. I laughed hard at a few scenes in FIST OF NORTH STAR, like where a guy in military fatiques stridently rebuts an approaching bad-guy character only to get gored by the abdomen with bad guy's knife-like hand jab amid spurting burst of blood. Or a guy screamed "Jesus Christ" and screaming into the radio to get Golgo 13 during his assignment to assassinate a Nazi pig villain. Golgo 13 was and remains one of the most improbably ludicrous films ever made in terms of suspension of disbelief, and Carl Macek's dub job made it doubly enjoyable. The cheesier, the better for the drunken dying-laugh-a-thon party.

  • April 19, 2010, 4:32 p.m. CST

    If You're Cheering the Passing of a Fellow Human Being...

    by Leto III

    ...then you're sick, and you should re-examine your life's priorities.<p>Especially if you belong to such an insular, incestuous nerd sub-clique as animé fandom. We don't need any damn Japan-worshipping MACROSS otaku trying to convert us to their One True Faith.<p>Especially since the Japanese themselves just piss themselves laughing their asses off at how you guys slobber over their crappiest, derivative, D-list imported animé slop and proclaim it "high art."

  • April 19, 2010, 6:05 p.m. CST

    R.I.P. Carl Macek and Thank You…

    by blakindigo

  • April 19, 2010, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Leto III is right!

    by Josstossesthesalad

    Plus, most anime fans should read Dune if you want real scifi and complex themes. Again, most anime is trite and "edgy" by playing with gender and having panty shots.

  • April 19, 2010, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Thank you and FU Carl.

    by Zardozap2005

    I'm of two minds on this. Many thanks to Carl for baicically bringing Anime to our shores, and showing us how great a lot of it is. (Macross) But fuck that dead asshat for screwing it up with editing the shit out of it, and dubbing it so poorly that a lot of it was unwatchable for years after. Just bein honest.

  • April 19, 2010, 6:17 p.m. CST

    RIP...

    by Anna Valerious

    ...although why oh why did he give Minmei the most HORRIBLE dub voice?

  • April 19, 2010, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Cheers, Carl

    by GigaMach

    I am very thankful for what Carl brought to us in the form of Robotech. While I'm a huge fan of anime translated right, I'm also a huge fan of Robotech, even now. Yeah, I know...a bastardization, blah blah no respect blah barf. But it worked for us then, and I was hooked. Saw the man twice: Once at a signing where he autographed my Art of Robotech 1. Again at the premiere screening of Akira at San Diego Comic Con. He had a LOT to do with my formative culture, and for that, I do indeed thank him.

  • April 19, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Thank you, Carl

    by Arcadian Del Sol

    this may in fact be the only time i ever post in this column without making a snarky comment about cartoons and comic books about teenage female kittens<p> But Robotech reached the airwaves during a pivitol moment in my life, and as a lad, watching the show gave me a much needed distraction from the nastiness of what was going on in the world of the adults in my home.<p> That and Star Blazers are the ONLY VHS tapes I ever purchased in a store. EVER.

  • April 19, 2010, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Fantastic Macek Interview from January

    by yesiamaplant

    http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/anncast/2010-01-14

  • April 19, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST

    and wow---

    by yesiamaplant

    ---it's shocking to me how grossly misinformed people still are about Macek's involvement in certain project, and the decisions that went in to them. Some of you people would be really guilty if you weren't so fucking ignorant.

  • April 19, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Nothing to thank him for, really.

    by Chief Joseph

    Fred Ladd was the one that brought anime to America, decades before Macek's Robotech. Macek's dubs and translations ranged from subpar to just plain awful. Most of his dubs (like Akira) had to be redone in recent years because of their awfulness. I don't begrudge him doing what he had to do to get stuff on TV, but it was the insistence by Macek and his fans that he had somehow IMPROVED on the original Japanese product by his hackjob that irritated me to no end. And the fact he listed himself as the sole "Creator" of Robotech on the credits and didn't list any of the Japanese involved.

  • April 19, 2010, 10:35 p.m. CST

    News that PISSES ME OFF!!!

    by HB_Dad

    Robotech was the single-most important series to my youth and I am sad to see Carl go (hums Robotech theme with sorrow)!

  • April 20, 2010, 5:51 a.m. CST

    Underappreciated.

    by tonyblac

    I love this guy. You will be missed.

  • April 20, 2010, 8:42 a.m. CST

    The Paradox

    by Jmacq

    I wonder if all these hardcore Macross fans from America have ever stopped to think about it and realized that they probably wouldn't even know what the hell Macross was if it weren't for Carl Macek and Robotech. And Chief Joseph - Macek may not have been the first, but Robotech ended up being a good bit "bigger" than the earlier efforts to bring anime to Western shores, and those "Streamline Dubs" as terrible as some of them may be, dominated that little "Japanimation" corner of virtually every Blockbuster video in the country in the mid-late 80's and early 90's. To try to deny that Macek played a very significant role in popularizing anime in the United States is borderline delusional.

  • April 20, 2010, noon CST

    WAAHHH, Macek butchered my macross, WAAAHH!

    by Stalkeye

    I can't belive for the life of me how some fanboys will make such vile comments regarding carl's death.He's not the anti-Christ of Anime you dweeb fucktards and to rejoice in his death makes you far less of a human being.<p>some of you people make it seem like Macek reaped untold fortunes while the japanese received no credit whatsoever.Get a grip Losers.

  • April 20, 2010, 1:55 p.m. CST

    What a disorderly arrangement...

    by jrb

    These people are completely ignorant of space-war tactics.

  • April 20, 2010, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Unbelieveable...

    by Redblade

    The vitriol spewed forth on these boards never ceases to amaze me. Are we talking about Osama Bin Laden? Adolf Hitler? Child pornographers? Your ex-wife’s divorce attorney? No, we’re talking about a guy who, in the late 80’s/early 90’s, imported some Japanese cartoons (yes, ‘cartoons’) to America. His only crime was cutting a scene you liked or giving your favorite character an annoying voice, so now you feel justified in celebrating his death? What a bunch of worthless cock-freckles. “But I loved Minmei in the original Japanese version and I didn’t like her in the American version so clearly he deserved to die!” Boo-fucking-hoo. Get over yourself. If Macek took a few creative liberties with the source material you didn’t approve of than just put on your big girl panties and deal with it. For the 99.7% of us who don’t happen to speak Japenese, these were still the best thing going by orders of magnitude at the time. Did he make a few bucks in the process? I’m sure he did, but in doing so he brought something to our country that none of us (aside perhaps from those in the military who were fortunate enough to be stationed in Japan) would have otherwise ever experienced. God knows millions of people have resorted to much worse things to put food on their family’s table so I fail to see your justification in vilifying him over it. The bottom line is that Carl Macek allowed millions of us who would have otherwise been denied access to these brilliant stories to enjoy them, even if not 100% true to the source material. Maybe instead of furiously pouring out all your hatred for him you should channel all that time and effort into playing basketball with kids in wheelchairs or participating in a cancer walk or something. There are things much more important to get spun-up about than the perceiving raping of your childhood by a man that 95% of us think did the world a huge favor.

  • April 20, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    re: MACROSS-Worshipping Otaku...

    by Leto III

    Nudity and drunkenness are not signs of MACROSS's "maturity" -- they are signs of Japan's more tolerant attitudes toward what's permissable in animation.<p> All in all, MACROSS is infinitely more adolescent than ROBOTECH. One needs only to compare the terse declarative dialogue of the Japanese originals to the far more intelligent and sophisticated dialogue in ROBOTECH.<p> I cite one Southern Cross episode as an example. The TASC has launched a sortie against the Masters in an early episode. The Spectre planes are flying passes over the Masters' ship, not firing -- just positioning themselves. We see a focus on Emerson's fist, a long pause, and then see him say "Open fire!"<p> Now, the ROBOTECH version has a lot of dialogue in that silence when we're seeing his fist. It goes something like, "Nothing? Then we'll provoke a response! Open fire!"<p> The Japanese version simply advances the plot. The Southern Cross planes position themselves, and then the commander says "fire." In the ROBOTECH version, with the more verbose dialogue, we see Emerson talking through the situation. We see his puzzlement and his frustration. And finally, we see a hint of the intentionality -- the motivation for the action.<p> This is not an isolated example. It's almost a rule in the original Japanese; if we don't see the characters' faces, they're not talking. ROBOTECH not only fills up a lot of those silences with dialogue, it fills them up with *information*. It fills them with story.<p> Sometimes ROBOTECH goes overboard. Sometimes it gets goony. Never more so than the originals; just in different places. But all in all, there's more to ROBOTECH, precisely *because* it's more verbose.<p> Which is yet another reason I prefer ROBOTECH to the so-called "pure" animé...

  • April 20, 2010, 4:46 p.m. CST

    RIP Carl...

    by MachThree

    Absolutely the best cartoon of my childhood. I never could stop hating the Japanese kid next door though who had large toys of the SDF-1, Cyclone and Alpha Fighter (not to mention Voltron) while all I could manage was the Transformers version of the Veritech.

  • April 20, 2010, 6:03 p.m. CST

    I talked with and met Macek. I will miss you terribly.

    by Lornsorrow

    This is terribly sad news for me. ROBOTECH was one of the highlights of my growing up in the 80's. Me and a friend of mine were very addicted fans of the show. I remember beating it home from high school so I could catch the latest episode. I got so caught up in the show that I wanted to write for Carl and work on future episodes. I had a huge story arch in mind, and as a determined kid I called up harmony Gold and actually managed to get Carl Macek on the phone. Don't ask me how that even happened. I still can't fathom how! I vaguely remember it being fairly easy actually! But he was so nice to me, he listened to me, and talked to me about how things were at that time with the story, submissions, etc. He was absolutely wonderful dealing with me and respected me as a someone who was very wrapped up in this story, it was a wonderful journey we all were interested in together. Sometime later, me and my friend went to the one and only ROBOTECH convention that we ever managed to get to. It was a wonderful experience, we got to ask questions to some of the actors/actresses in the film, and I got to meet Macek, the man who had been so nice to me. He signed my ROBOTECH Art 1 book that I had at the time (wish I still had it). ROBOTECH was life changing for me. I never viewed "cartoons" the same way again. Nothing else ever compared. And nothing (except Cowboy Beebop) has ever come close for me since. Yeah I know there are those who think that Macek butchered the original japanese version. And there is certainly something to be said for the original vision. But what Macek did is translate something into a vision that reached out to us and connected to us in the 80's. He changed our lives. The first season (The Macross Saga) and the third season (The New Generation), really go together. I never was too big on the second season (The Masters, with Dana, etc.) I really hope that one day the live action version of Macross will come about. We fans always thought that there was way more potential here than in Transformers or G.I. Joe. And now that they have had their day in the live action sun, it is time that someone come along and do Macross some justice, for the fans, and for Carl Macek. Macek changed my life and I will terribly miss him.

  • April 20, 2010, 6:58 p.m. CST

    I love Carl Macek

    by Hikaru Ichijo

    and I clearly love the source material I never would have seen if it weren't for him. I re-watched ROBOTECH not too long ago and found it still measured up, bad dubbing and all. Thanks Carl, RIP.

  • April 21, 2010, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Back on track

    by Rhade

    Ladies and gentlemen. Please, whether you like Carl Macek, or not, let us not debate the man here. The fact is, whether you think his work was good or bad, you do have to respect his contributions to anime. Without his work, we would never have had access to the anime we have today. Through his company, Streamline Video, and his work with companies such as Harmony Gold, ADV, and Funimation, Carl Macek opened the door to a world of anime we had never known. It was because of him that anime moved from the shadows of a niche market into the lime light of the mainstream. In that way, Carl was one of the greatest Otaku we have ever seen. Without Carl, there would have been no drive to illegally download Macross, no drive to see Bleach, Naruto, DBZ, or any of the hundreds of anime titles we now have. This is not about Macross vs Robotech. This is not about how well he dubbed any one anime. This is about one man who, almost single-handedly, opened the doors to a world we could never have known without him. Whether you liked his work, or not, respect that because of his work, you now have access to anime to debate his work. You don't have to like his work, to respect that it was his work that brought anime into our lives and changed our world forever. Even if you hate his work, you have to respect his tremendous contributions to all our lives. In many ways, he was truly larger then life. Rest in peace Mr. Macek. Though I never had the pleasure of meeting you face to face, your work in bringing anime out of obscurity has touched the lives of millions. For that, I thank you.

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  • May 1, 2010, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Well said Rhade

    by Lornsorrow

    Indeed.

  • May 19, 2010, 7:57 a.m. CST

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    by orcus

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