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‘I Done Planted That Little Russell Seed In Their Mind And It’s Taken Root!!’ Thursday Brings SURVIVOR 20.9!!

Published at:  Apr 15, 2010 6:57:52 AM CDT

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I am – Hercules!!

Last week the bad guys blindsided the ever-deluded Coach onto the jury, leaving Russell as the sole male villain.

This week it appears that J.T. is going to slip his immunity idol across tribal lines to the treacherous Russell! Madness!

The post-Coach landscape:

HEROES
Rupert Boneham
Colby Donaldson
Amanda Kimmel
J.T. Thomas
Candice Woodcock

VILLAINS
Sandra Diaz-Twine
Danielle DiLorenzo
Russell Hantz
Jerri Manthey
Parvati Shallow
Courtney Yates



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    Readers Talkback

  • Apr 15, 2010 7:07:30 AM CDT

    First!

    by thorntree

  • Apr 15, 2010 7:26:03 AM CDT

    Survivor news...

    by mister_eko

    ...for the four or five visitors to this site who actually watch that show.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 7:52:45 AM CDT

    Great Season so Far...

    by richier123

    But with Boston Rob and Coach and Tyson gone, the only one I have left to root for is Russel. If Russel gets voted off, I don't really have an investment in the show anymore!

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  • Apr 15, 2010 8:08:13 AM CDT

    Does the million..

    by captain papercut

    have to go to a person? Can't they vote to give the million to Amanda's underwear and bikini? Heck, I bet her underpants would do better than she has in the last tribal council...

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  • Apr 15, 2010 8:16:31 AM CDT

    The "dumbest move in Survivor history"...

    by blackwood

    would make for really awesome television. I hope it plays out. Russell is dynamite, I want him to stick around to the end.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 8:29:48 AM CDT

    The enormity of this season

    by dsback

    will be measured by how far Russell makes it and if/how he is defeated.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 8:57:42 AM CDT

    Excited

    by tocksick

    Each week I get more and more excited for the new episode. One of the best seasons yet so far...

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  • Apr 15, 2010 10:01:36 AM CDT

    If this happens, it will without question be the

    by big jim

    Dumbest Move Ever! It's one thing for a player to do something stupid (not play one of his two immunity idols on the third-last vote it can be used, or give up individual immunity when you are the only man left THANKS TO an all-female alliance). It's something else entirely when a tribe comes to consensus, and makes the effort and takes the time to execute the plan. A plan based solely on a hunch, a guess, one possible scenario. If no member of the Heroes tribes at any point considers maybe there's a reason, other than the all-female alliance, that Russell is the only man still on the tribe, then they deserve to lose.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 10:16:19 AM CDT

    In one sense I can see why they would do it

    by acappellaman

    Looking at the Villains tribe from the Heroes' perspective, I can understand what they're thinking. If Villains lose the immunity challenge, which is very likely, and the merge happens in typical fashion - with ten people left - somebody HAS to make a move to get the numbers advantage, since it'll be 5 Heroes and 5 Villains. Looking at the Villains tribe, it definitely looks like the girls have set up an alliance against the guys - why else would they vote off all the physical threats? That's from the Heroes' point of view, mind you. Obviously we know why - Russell's a very devious and strategic thinker. I don't think he would have expected something like receiving the hidden immunity idol from the Heroes, which is a gift from heaven, but I do think he was strategizing a plan for himself to earn some sympathy from the Heroes and maybe win a vote or two. This is going to be a very interesting episode! Wouldn't it be ironic if JT was voted out in two weeks if things play out like it appears to be? Oh, so very Russell...

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  • Apr 15, 2010 10:37:18 AM CDT

    I will be upset when this season ends

    by vin_diggler

    I don't think they will ever be able to top this one.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 10:46:16 AM CDT

    The only way to top this season is celebrity SURVIVOR

    by spyguy

    And even that would depend on which celebrities or "celebrities" they actually get for the show.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 10:47:50 AM CDT

    Russell will reap his own reward

    by misthaufen

    By taking out coach (and being cute about it by making sure Coach was gone, but not for Coach himself), Russell set up a strong likelihood of a female alliance. Sandra and Courtney both did really well in Survivor (winning and coming in second place) by basically creating an alliance of the weak. Russell may be able to ride the wave for a little bit, but needs to take out Sandra and Courtney ASAP if he wants to survive. Plus, Parvati will dump Russell as soon as it is convenient to her....

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  • Apr 15, 2010 10:55:45 AM CDT

    Best season since #1, IMHO

    by itchy

    I don't know if MVP goes to Russell or the camerman whose job it is to focus solely on Amanda's skimpy bikini riding up her ass, or her massaging her lovely wet breasts with the liquid substance of the week. I guess I'll go with Amanda. But Russell is damned entertaining. It'll suck for him when useless Parvarti takes his ass out (coming within the next two weeks, I bet)

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  • Apr 15, 2010 10:57:01 AM CDT

    "celebrity" Survivor would be ass

    by vin_diggler

    celebrities need to stay away from these shows. Look at celebrity apprentice, you got celbrities quiting left and right because the are tired of the game. You have other celebrities like Cindy Lauper and Sharron Osbourne who keep missing episodes because they have "prior engagments" that are more important than the show. Frankly, celebrities are pussies and if they can quit, they will. Survivor needs to stick with the average Joe's who really are in it for the money and are willing to bak stab anyone to win. That's what makes it entertaining, celebrities just suck the life outa these shows.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 11:14:15 AM CDT

    Russell is a creation of the Hidden Immunity Idol

    by jayemel

    Yes, the rules of the current game allow for his style of play, but I don't know how he'd fare in a "pure" game. I don't think his social game is up to par.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 11:22:56 AM CDT

    Can't wait

    by ecupirate71

    love Thursdays. I think that the villians need to win immunity for Russel to not be outed. If a female villan is voted off, someone on the zeros will realize that there is a flaw in the plan. Zeros win immunity, Russel is handed a loaded gun with the hidden idol (even though he may already have another one that has been re-hidden (great blind-side to the audience)) and gets Parvati voted off. I wish it would be Sandra, but Russel knows Parvati is the dangerous one.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 11:34:46 AM CDT

    If JT gives Russell the Hidden Idol...

    by tj donkey show

    Russell is going to realize there's there's a Hidden Idol at the Villain's camp. And I'll willing bet that he'll find it.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 11:37:53 AM CDT

    Seriously...

    by tj donkey show

    It's 2010 and still no edit button.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 12:34:00 PM CDT

    The emmy goes to...

    by jtp8000

  • Apr 15, 2010 12:34:24 PM CDT

    Whoops- the emmy goes to...

    by jtp8000

    Amanda's cameltoe

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  • Apr 15, 2010 12:51:33 PM CDT

    I want to see Ultimate Survivor.

    by pops freshemeyer

    If CBS can give Big Brother three nights a week, I want to see them go all out with Survivor. My dream would be two seasons shot at the same time, with the players unaware of the fact that the other camps are nearby. Have the game go on like it normally does, with everybody expecting to merge. Let them figure out who they think they can ally with, think about how they're playing the game, and then when the merge comes, they get merged with players that they've never seen before.
    C'mon, two nights of Survivor a week can't be that hard to produce...

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  • Apr 15, 2010 12:55:13 PM CDT

    Celebrity Survivor?

    by pops freshemeyer

    Please. I want to see Celebrity Ultimate Fighter. Just stick the current cast of the Celebrity Apprentice in the TUF house and have Goldberg ground and pound Sharon Osbourne into living death.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 1:06:16 PM CDT

    Gotta love Russell taking credit for something he didn't do

    by big jim

    Then again, could be I misunderstood the quote. Seems to me he thinks he did something to make JT and the Heroes think there's a Women's alliance over there. I think it was Rupert who first voiced it, leading to Russell thinking he might be able to find a way to exploit their misconception.

    It makes sense if they merge 5-5, and more so if they merge 6-5, for the Heroes to want to find a way to get the numbers in their favour. However, as I've said all along, to them Russell is an unknown entity - none of them have ever seen him play before. The one thing they do know is he is on the Villains tribe; since they can only guess at how he earned that distinction perhaps it would be prudent to err on the side of caution. For the Heroes to want to trust the devil they don't know is stupid. Amanda has history with both Parvati and Courtney. Without giving either the idol, she should be able to convince at least one of them to switch sides. Both Courtney & Parvati beat Amanda in the finals; maybe more for Parvati than Courtney, but that reason alone seems like a pretty good one for either of them to want to keep close to Amanda.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 1:18:36 PM CDT

    So Sandra outsmarted Russell ...

    by haljordansuperstar

    ... but she gets no credit for it? Sandra is a Survivor goddess. She doesn't need producer help (e.g., hidden immunity idols) to succeed. All hail Sandra!

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  • Apr 15, 2010 1:47:27 PM CDT

    Pops...

    by ecupirate71

    have always thought the same thing. A few seasons back, can't remember which one, didn't the two tribes find each other while filming? I think they were exploring and somene in the boat stumbled upon the other tribe. For the show to keep going strong we need something new, and I think something like your idea would be great, espicially if they were able to keep that hidden from us as viewers. That scene of announcing the merge would be awesome when they realized that it was with another group. Someone may have their head explode on camera...

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  • Apr 15, 2010 1:49:27 PM CDT

    How did Sandra outsmart Russel?

    by ecupirate71

    Not calling you out HalJordan, just not sure what you were refering to.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 2:47:17 PM CDT

    ECUPirate71

    by acappellaman

    He's talking about Sandra planting the bug in Russell's head that Coach wanted Russell out. Granted, he actually did, but I think Sandra was enhancing the message a bit since Coach never actually said he wanted Russell out - he just didn't like Russell's tactics. I dont' necessarily think she "outsmarted" Russell, but she definitely influenced his decision. Regardless, I still despise Sandra and think she's useless and boring. At least Courtney is entertaining, that little quote machine. I just hope Amanda stays on the show as long as possible. She's so much fun to look at.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 2:58:32 PM CDT

    ECUPirate71, I think I know what you're talking about.

    by pops freshemeyer

    Don't remember the season though. The whole idea of the tribes meeting an entirely new tribe a few weeks in would be a definite game changer. Maybe they could do something along those lines for Survivor 25, assuming the show is still around. Have one of the shows feature all stars or whatever, one tribe of fresh contestants, and then merge them all. The amount of scrambling, paranoia, and backstabbing would be phenomenal.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 3:11:55 PM CDT

    Running into the other tribes

    by mjbok1

    The tribes are specifically limited with where they can and cannot go. The season in question they got together for someone's birthday, but they had the okay to do so. With swaps sometimes the people know where the other tribes are, but aren't allowed to go there.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 6:01:44 PM CDT

    Celebrity Biggest Loser Survivor

    by jaka

    A group of overweight celebrities fight it out to see who can loose the most weight Survivor style on a beautiful tropical island in order to win money for "the charity of their choice".

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  • Apr 15, 2010 6:02:59 PM CDT

    Ultimate Survivor

    by jaka

    I actually like the idea of merges with players either tribe is not aware are in the game quite a lot.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 6:04:58 PM CDT

    Regarding future seasons

    by jaka

    I've said so many times, "it will never get better than this season", and then it does! So I'm not really worried about that. I'm more worried that it's been renewed for two more seasons, which would equal twenty in total, which seems like a fine place to stop. I hope not, though. Really looking forward to tonight's episode, but I just don't believe it can be any better than the last few weeks.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 7:38:54 PM CDT

    YES!

    by blackwood

    THEY DID IT! Awesome.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 7:40:47 PM CDT

    Now...

    by blackwood

    ...what the hell is Russell going to do? Does Parvati go?

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  • Apr 15, 2010 7:41:26 PM CDT

    THIS COMMERCIAL BREAK IS FOREVER!

    by blackwood

    I NEED TO KNOW!

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  • Apr 15, 2010 7:42:03 PM CDT

    !!!

    by dollar bird

    You have GOT to be kidding me. They actually did it.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 8:01:21 PM CDT

    Meh

    by blackwood

    Courtney gone, nothing special... but next episode looks very, very promising.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 8:14:50 PM CDT

    JT was trying too hard.

    by kraven morehead

    Giving away the immunity idol was way too risky even if everything lined up the way the Heroes thought it did . . . which it didn't. It will be interesting to see what BS Russell drops to explain why Parvarti was not voted out.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 9:36:39 PM CDT

    where the hell did JT get the pen?

    by muddymudskipper

    Since when do these guys get pen and paper?

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  • Apr 15, 2010 9:38:34 PM CDT

    Russell's an evil genius

    by backrivercatfish

    He should play Lex Luthor if there's ever another Superman movie!

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  • Apr 15, 2010 9:45:25 PM CDT

    Looks like I can skip a few weeks

    by frodofraggins

    I don't think Russell is going to be in trouble in the next couple of weeks. This weeks episode was kind of boring.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 9:52:31 PM CDT

    Colby playing secret agent cool guy man

    by itchy

    and getting the info to Russell about the idol was hilarious. They are really making Colby out to be a buffoon this season.

    I've come full circle ... I am now rooting for Russell. Which is why he will now lose.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 10:03:51 PM CDT

    I'm officially rooting for Sandra.

    by jayemel

    She's the best "old school" player left. I enjoyed Pavarti tonight too.

    I enjoyed Russell last season, but I'm getting really sick of the fact that he gets ahead on Hidden Immunity Idols.

    Also, why is Danielle allowed to talk ever? She's a nobody in the game put there for us to look at.

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  • Apr 15, 2010 10:53:06 PM CDT

    Oh Russell

    by mongo126

    I really hope he's playing Parvati, but, if he is, he's not letting anybody know about it. He's really going to have to pull some magic out of his ass to get to the final 4 at this point. If the Heroes don't swallow up the Villains, Parvati will team up with Sandra to blindside him.

    Most annoying winners: 1) Parvati 2) Sandra 3) Vescepia 4) Natalie

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  • Apr 15, 2010 11:29:36 PM CDT

    Sandra only half-outsmarted Russell...

    by harrywannabe

    Sandra definitely got Russell paranoid about Coach AND Coach was eventually voted out, but Russell ended up voting for Courtney that episode (he even smartly and obviously signed his name to his vote, so that Coach would see he didn't vote for him and thus, I'm hoping, get a vote to win from Coach if Russell makes it to the end). I think it was a mistake to vote off Courtney this week, they should have taken out Sandra...she'll be much less dangerous on the Jury than she will be as an active player (well, "active" for Sandra that is). And as seen by the preview for next week...Sandra is already causing a steer, but telling Rupert there is no all-woman alliance! That's not to say Rupert will believe her, so who knows. I just wonder how long Russell will be able to hide that he didn't have to use the Idol from JT at his last tribal council. I also wish he hadn't been so quick to share that the Heroes gave it to him with Parvati, Danielle and Jerry...but he does have a big ego and it only adds to the overall drama of the show, so that's fine by me.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 1:08:49 AM CDT

    Why Sandra hasn't accomplished anything

    by jaka

    Because Russell could still get Sandra voted out whenever he wanted, I believe. While Sandra could not do the same to Russell. I'm still getting the feeling, however, that Russell goes far this season but doesn't win again. I'm actually really glad that Courtney is gone, but only because her body makes me ill. Nothing against her as a player, although she hasn't done shit this season in that regard. Will the producers of the show even allow an idol passed from one tribe to another to be used by the new owner? Could throw a major hitch in somebodies future plans if they don't.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 1:18:05 AM CDT

    Well, that was interesting

    by captain papercut

    The heroes are good and screwed now. Even if Sandra flips, they don't have the votes to try and flush out Russell's idol without losing one of their own people to the villains voting as a block. They could shoot 6 votes at Russell, he plays the idol, cancels those votes, and then whomever the villains pick -- JT? -- is gone. They can't even split the 6 into 3 for Russell and 3 for Parvati to get rid of either idol holder (though they don't know she has one), because they'd still lose to the 4-vote villain block. Yep, this is a mess. I guess you don't focus on Russell right away, and try to pick off Jeri and Danielle and hope you finally get the margin of votes to finally get Russell to play the idol without losing one of your own team to do it. I'm not sure I would call this the dumbest move in Survivor history, but it wasn't the smartest, that's for sure.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 1:23:38 AM CDT

    And actually...

    by captain papercut

    that doesn't take into consideration that Russell keeps giving JT his puppy-dog eyes and the heroes think he's flipping to get away from the women -- despite what Sandra tries to tell Rupert! He might not have a target on his back for a while if he lets them pick off others while pretending to have joined the heroes. Of course, he'd have to 'splain why he didn't use the idol if he was in such danger from the deadly female alliance, but I'm sure he could talk his way out of it for a little while. And if he wins a couple of immunities along the way, he might not have to use it until they are down to 4.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 7:30:58 AM CDT

    Jaka, that's not Sandra's strategy

    by useridgoeshere

    Sandra's strategy isn't about control. It's about never being worse than second from the bottom. Her mantras are vote someone else, just three more days. And it's working again. Russell may have more control, but he won't win, because he doesn't understand the real game. Sandra and Parvati are the only two left who really have a winning strategy.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 8:39:57 AM CDT

    best season keeps getting better

    by the__natural74

    First off, great idea Pops Freshemeyer...that would be incredible! I'm actually surprised they haven't doubled-up on Survivor content, but the network isn't hurting so it would be different if it were NBC's only gem.
    I've been a JT fan, but that was just bizarre. Not to say it will backfire on him specifically, but certainly the Hero tribe are idiots for buying into it.
    Big Jim> You made some excellent points how Amanda could easily be more advantageous to the Hero tribe after a merge thanks to her connections. I'm just dumbfounded they went along with it, but it only reinforces my earlier statements that JT has been running that tribe from the beginning, and took out the biggest threats to challenge his authority. However, this was an unnecessary gamble to be sure.
    And while I'm happy as shit Russell continues to do so well, I do worry he won't see Parv coming. However, she may not know who she's messing with either. If he found her digging up that idol...HELL ON EARTH would be unleashed! LOL You do not cross Russell, or even suggest it.
    Great moment: Danielle talks over and interrupts Russell while the four talk on the beach. Eventually Russell stops talking and just hangs his head. He is so frustrated that his "dumb ass bitches" actually have brains, and won't just let him make all the decisions. I bet he misses Natalie at this point. Ha! To her credit, she did her best to offer her opinion but to never upset Russell in the process.
    Great moment I wish happened: Russell should have told Jeff what those idiots on the Hero side did. I was just waiting for the whole team to burst out laughing, and to read Jeff that ridiculous letter! I know Jeff wouldn't have been able to hold back his chuckles either!
    And the line of the night, Russell saying something like "I don't even have to look for the idols, they come to me now!" Just another example why my suggestion to rename the hidden idol the Hantz idol should happen. The game needs to honour such a remarkable player, who has used and benefited from the Hidden Hantz Idol like no other. Even shape the little thing into a gap-toothed K-fed-hat wearing little troll face! HAHAHAHA!!
    And whoever pointed me towards that Ponderosa video last week, thank-you! That was vintage Coach. LMAO at the Dragon Slayer eating those desserts! Then the fallen Samurai warrior returns to tribal with his robe...just hysterical!

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  • Apr 16, 2010 9:04:29 AM CDT

    Russell Can't Win

    by lederuvdapac

    I am 100% on team Russell. The guy is compelling to watch and his ability to play Survivor is in my opinion, unmatched.

    However, JT's move to give him the idol convinced me that he cannot possibly win this season. He can get to the end, but not get the votes. I agree with the sentiment that he will probably scorn the Heroes and make them look like idiots for handing him the idol and that right there is 5 votes going to somebody else.

    Maybe he will surprise me, he has done it in the past. But Russell's weakness has always been his ego and even if he dismantles the Heroes tribe and is able to pick the two people he goes to final tribal with like last season, he probably won't get the votes.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 9:06:19 AM CDT

    Are you kidding?

    by tailhook

    These guys get pen and paper in hand the moment they voice that plan in earshot of the cameras. The producers would bend over backwards for that cockamamie plan!Ratings CHING!Per the actual strategy.. it was a sound strategy, if it had any basis in truth. But its funny to see the power that them not having seen Russell's season has. They view him pretty much as a dope and roadkill to be saved so that the real players can get ahead in the game lolz. He's going to pants that tribe so hard with their naivete its not even funny, and end up using their own idol to do it.Per Parvati/Russell.. he has set her up in the exact same way that he set up Natalie/Russell. She's the 'coattail' rider while he's the Axe Man working the strategy to keep the ship going forward. As such, he uses information along the way to build up trust to tie them to him. Coattail rider feels Axe Man is needed to get there and won't do anything against him. Axe Man isn't threatened by Coattail rider because he doesn't feel they'll pull enough votes to win. Lackey is the #3 spot currently occupied by Danielle who is the person with no chance in hell of winning that trusts the Axe Man and Coattail Rider completely and vice versa in order to provide a critical 3rd vote for councils. The kink is that Parvati should realize that once the back of the Heroes gets broken, that the Axe Man needs to be blindsided. The main reason being that it puts him on the Jury, and because he has such a big ego.. he can be played in that he would 'respect' a move like that and that he had to go Because He Was Too Good. This gives pretty much a sure vote for the million to Parvati. The other thing it does is show that SHE was the real player and took out the hated snake which gives her credibility to make a credible argument to the other jury members. If I was laying odds, I'd say that A) Russell goes deep but just misses out on the final 3 and B) Parvati wins it all. Not how I would like it, but thats the way its shaping up.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 9:11:14 AM CDT

    Two things

    by kraven morehead

    1) Perhaps showing everyone JT's letter was not the smartest thing as it allows any villain who wants to back-stab Russell need only let the Heroes know about their knowledge of said letter. Not sure if that will matter once merge takes place though.


    2) Coach looked amazing tribal council. I hope he brought a different kimono for each council he has to attend.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 9:30:52 AM CDT

    tailhook

    by the__natural74

    Jeff's EW blog says the pen & paper were part of Amanda's luxury items that they just won! Not sure what I would bring, but I would think a notebook wouldn't stay dry for very long.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 9:46:24 AM CDT

    I agree that Russell's ability to LOSE Survivor is unmatched

    by haljordansuperstar

    But I don't think that's anything to be proud of. Despite having every advantage possible, he will crash and burn again. He is compelling in that I will enjoy seeing him lose again while proclaiming he's the greatest player ever. Hi-larious.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 10:11:08 AM CDT

    Potential spoilers

    by cekma

    How the hell does the list of people that get eliminated get leaked so easily? For those that have seen the list, it seems to make sense.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 10:20:13 AM CDT

    BTW Kraven

    by tailhook

    The only person who saw Russell's letter was Parvati. The episode showed no one else that I know of seeing it.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 11:20:55 AM CDT

    cekma (Potential spoilers)

    by detectivemills82

    Yeah, this is the 1st year I did NOT look at the list. They think he's close with a cameraman/soundguy because he doesn't know how the TV show will play out exactly....but he knows exactly what happened every single day of the season.

    So that means he's close with someone in production rather than post production.

    But the list is 100% correct every year. I read the list up until last nights episode...he got every detail correct and he posted it back in January.

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  • He could say there is a rift in the women's alliance, that Courtney was looking to defect to the Heroes post-merge and wanted to take Russell with her. He could say he played it but they all voted Courtney instead of him. Or he could simply smile at JT and say "thanks for the idol, moron".

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  • Apr 16, 2010 11:35:46 AM CDT

    Big Jim

    by ecupirate71

    If Parvarti an dRussel were really going to work together, she should tell him about the idol, they should both say that they played the idol and Sandra, who they could throw under the bus, was left out and voted for Courtney. Then they would have two idols, maybe get the third one that is available when they get to the Heroes camp next week, and the final three would be set. I agree that right now Russell is in charge but Parvati is running the show.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 11:40:51 AM CDT

    Colby is THE most useless Survivor in history

    by masterbatse

    He should go back to making movies...haha just kidding. His hat is great though.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 12:36:20 PM CDT

    Russell's BS

    by dollar bird

    I, too, am curious about how he's going to explain why Parvati is still around. I'd love for the heroes to figure it out, or for Sandra to drop the bomb (like they hinted as a possibility in the preview) but who knows. Right now it seems like all the heroes are too dumb (saving Amanda) to figure out the truth, even when it's told to them. I mean, even though they never saw him play, don't you think the fact that he's labeled a "villain" would be a clue about his nature? Count me in the "Russell Sucks" team, because although he plays the game well and generates some compelling drama, I can't stand his arrogance. I just thirst to see him fail.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 12:51:23 PM CDT

    UserIDGoesHere

    by jaka

    While I agree with what you're saying 100%, if a player gets voted off their strategy no longer matters. So I guess as long as Russell doesn't decide Sandra's a threat she's on pretty solid ground. But the previews have been misleading this season. If she stirs the pot (for real or only in Russell's imagination), there's a good chance she'll be gone. I agree with most everything people are saying on all side of the Russell equation. All I know for sure is that he's upped the interest level of Survivor the last two seasons tremendously. And that's coming from someone who has watched every season fanatically.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 12:53:49 PM CDT

    Russell explaining Parvarti

    by jaka

    "She looks good in her bikini." No, but seriously, why does he need to explain anything. That's not Russell style at all. He'll just bully and lie his way through it, twisting it around enough to convince the other players that it was the fault lies with somebody else.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 1:55:29 PM CDT

    Another Amanda cameltoe shot last night

    by jtp8000

    Thank you Mr. Camerman and Thank for another wet Amanda shot. As long is she is on , may we have more mud and water challenges

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  • Apr 16, 2010 2:54:57 PM CDT

    Russell fighting Sandra

    by the__natural74

    In the same preview, you heard Russell promise the Heroes he was with them on his wife and children's lives or something heavy like that. They'll likely believe Sandra to be full of it, especially if the other women play along with a ladies alliance. For that matter, they may not have a choice and will hope to hell their brave move wasn't the worst decision ever made.
    Next week's deception is actually key to sending home a Hero. And if Sandra were smart (and she is), she would stick with them UNTIL a Villain splinter group eventually forms.
    And while I worry Russell may have genuinely fallen victim to Parv's charms...my god, I can't blame him. Tell me one red blooded male who could look at her body (or Amanda, or Candace for that matter) and those FREAKIN' PANTIES, and not listen to anything she says just to be around her more. Not sure I remember a Survivor challenge where panties were the clothing of choice, but god damn those women look mint. Geezus...high definition and Survivor were made for each other.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 2:59:37 PM CDT

    Actually, Russell doesn't need to explain himself

    by big jim

    He didn't do anything wrong. They gave him the idol without him ever asking for it. He doesn't owe then an explanation, he doesn't owe them anything. They were dumb enough to give him their idol, to give a "Villain" their idol. Sucks to be them.

    At least Amanda seems smart enough to recognize that looks can be deceiving, that just because it seems like the Villains women are running the game doesn't mean they are. Also, she and Candice had an ulterior motive for letting JT give away the idol. Too bad they don't know what Russell can do with an idol (or two).

    I'd like to see them move away from the Hidden Immunity Idol. While it does add an element of chaos to the game, it seems too easy these days to find one, often with the entire tribe coming across the clue all at once. One thing they could do is, at the beginning of the game, every player has one personal immunity (not transferable). Not an idol, just the knowledge that, between the first vote and the vote to determine the final four, each player can state "I'm using my immunity" before the votes are read. However, once they use it, unless they win individual immunity in the challenges post-merge, they will be vulnerable. The strategy would be using it at the right moment; not wasting it but not holding on to it too long. Also, after the merge, the tribes would not necessarily be aware of who on the other tribe still has their immunity.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 3:02:41 PM CDT

    Back to Sandra Vs. Russell

    by ecupirate71

    I am not sure that Sandra had anything to do with Coach being ousted as we saw in the show. After Hillbilly Jim, I mean Rupert, opened his mouth about a women's alliance, I think that put Coach in a bad spot, in fact, made him a prime target. My guess is that Russell saw his opportunity to keep his core group of three strong, knowing that Jerry and Coach would be the fourth and fifth members, but not key elements to his plan. No one thought they should tell Jerry because of her reaction or trying to save Coach, so when Sandra brought to Russell's attention about Coach an dhis thinking, bt I belivee that the wheels were spinning as soon as the Heroes indicated they "knew" what was going on. So, I think Sandra, if anything, reinforced what Russell was already working on. He also has to know that Coach will vote for him on the jury because of the "honor" that Russell has shown, so it was really the best move.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 3:21:56 PM CDT

    Question...

    by dollar bird

    Although I've watched the show for several seasons now (including the 1st, and then a long break in between) I don't know if the jury gets to see anything of what happens after they get voted off, or if they just live in the lap of luxury on a yacht off the island, sipping long island ice teas and playing shuffleboard all day? I suppose there's no way they'd have access to raw footage of island activity, but do they get to converse among each other? Like, can Courtney fill in Coach on the wacky misadventures the Dragonslayer missed out on?

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  • Apr 16, 2010 3:29:05 PM CDT

    Russell needs to form an alliance with Amanda

    by itchy

    That would be genius for 3 reasons: (1) no one would see it coming, (2) she's proven she absolutely cannot get any votes when pitching to the jury and (3) Her tits, ass and cameltoe are the highlights of my Thursday nights ... and I would prefer they don't go away any time soon.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 3:31:51 PM CDT

    ECUPirate71, you're right, Russell had to split up

    by big jim

    Coach & Jerri as much as he needed to split up Sandra & Courtney. Rupert's dumb move of letting the Villains know what they were thinking made Coach the obvious choice to go home. Coach's exit would be further "proof" that the women were running the show.

    However, I think they made a mistake with voting out Courtney over Sandra. I think Parvati could have convinced Courtney that the women's alliance sounds like a pretty good idea, and together they should be able to get Amanda on their side (she might even bring Candice along). Not only would that give Courtney a false sense of security, but it would split the Heroes tribe enough to give Russell's tribe a chance to get the numbers on his side. I don't think the same tactic would work on Sandra.

    I do think it is very possible Rupert & JT won't believe Sandra simply because they won't want to. They are so proud of themselves for "seeing the pattern" in the Villains' voting, and of their plan to get Russell on their side, that I think they'll ignore Sandra. What she'll undoubtedly tell them contradicts what they "know" and they may not be able to wrap their heads around it.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 3:38:30 PM CDT

    Dollar Bird, check out the Ponderosa videos at CBS.com

    by big jim

    http://tinyurl.com/2jgro Scroll down a bit and click on the "Ponderosa" link.The jury does not get to see dailies, all they see is what they see at Tribal Council. However, when away from Tribal Council they are free to discuss the game all they want.By the way, Amazing Race has something similar called "Elimination Station".

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  • Apr 16, 2010 4:05:48 PM CDT

    Big Jim

    by the__natural74

    I agree with your thoughts on eliminating Courtney over Sandra. I identified her as the biggest threat next to Rob on the villains, similar to Cirie on the heroes. Your description of how things would play out with Courtney still around sounds spot on.
    If you were Parv, would a final 3 with Russ & Dani be your best bet? Just curious if in the end she'll resist her urge to slit their throats thinking she'll have just as big a chance to win with them instead of anybody else.
    In that case, I'm guessing Russ would flip to whoever he thinks he'll beat up against the jury. Unless of course, he really is smitten. But I think he proved last season that he'll cut anybody's throat who believes him, only if he thinks he can go further without them. From Mick, Jaison, Shambo, Dave Ball, John, Tyson and JT...something about the Hantz makes people want to believe him, even if they don't want to or their instincts say not to. Rob saw thru him, I think Sandra does too.
    I think the merge always brings a mad scramble, so all alliances could easily change. I think Russ just talks up his alliance in tribals, but would be more than willing to stab them in the back. I don't think he believes that's the only way to the end.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 5:21:01 PM CDT

    Russell doesn't "need" to explain himself

    by kraven morehead

    but he might want to be ready with some explanation of why the heroes' plan didn't go down in order to keep all possible alliances available once the merge occurs. It shouldn't be too hard for him.

    He's definitely my favorite character though I think his ego can be so big to a point that it can be manipulated a little too easily for how savvy he seems. With that said, he's my favorite part of the show at this point and part of me wants him to be voted out soon so I can enjoy the rest of the show itself and not just the one star of the show. I would say this justification was also used by Keyser Soze when he killed his family. The same way having a family made Keyser Soze weak is the same way having a favorite player has made me weak and not enjoying the show in its entirety. That is all.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 5:40:07 PM CDT

    Thank you Big Jim.

    by dollar bird

    I feel illuminated. As for Russell not needing to explain himself, you all are right. He can just go in, JT can be all like, "I thought we were getting rid of Parvati?" And Russell can say, "Yeah, it went a different way for different reasons you can never understand because you weren't there." And probably JT will accept that. Because I think Big Jim is right and JT and Rupert are probably too blind to see what's really going on because they're too busy patting themselves on the back. At this point in time, I'm rooting for Amanda or Parvati.

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  • Apr 16, 2010 11:05:04 PM CDT

    I think we'd all...

    by dj_bollocks

    ...root for Amanda or Parvati... or the Woodcock...

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  • Apr 17, 2010 3:31:11 PM CDT

    the MERGE

    by tocksick

    Its over 4 days away but I'm already excited about the MERGE. I can't wait for all hell to break loose - and to hear how Russell explains why Parvati is still in the game. I think it would be quite easy - just pretend that Courtney pissed of Parvati so everyone spared him for one vote. The other interesting part is that we know Sandra stirs trouble by revealing to Rupert that Russell is in control...but will he BELIEVE her? I assumed he would but that is also EXACTLY what she would say if there was in fact a female alliance. Next episode will be full of mind games, and throw in 2 immunity idols and you have the make up for one unforgettable Tribal council in an already excellent season.

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