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Learn What’s Doing With SURVIVOR, FRINGE, REF, VAMPIRE, FLASHFORWARD, BONES, CSI & MENTALIST!! Thursday Ratings!!
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* “Survivor,” already renewed for two more seasons, was the top-rated show last Thursday.
* “Fringe,” already renewed for a third season, hit an uptick. “Bones” made a much bigger gain but is still well off its season peak against the strengthening “Survivor.”
* “Marriage Ref,” already renewed for a second season, hit a new all-time low against “The Mentalist” and a “Private Practice” repeat.
* “Vampire Diaries,” already renewed for a second season, rebounded from its all-time low to match “FlashForward” in 18-49.
* “FlashForward,” competing against “Community” and “Parks” repeats, rebounded slightly from its all-time low. It may have a tougher time tonight against tonight's "Office" repeats at 8 p.m.
* With “Office” and “Grey’s” in repeats, “CSI” enjoyed a minor rebound and won its timeslot.
* “Mentalist” hit a bigger rebound against a “Private Practice” repeat and the weakening “Marriage Ref.”
Thursday 18-49 finals (repeats in gray; previous in parentheses):
3.8 (3.5) (3.4) (----) (3.6) (3.8) (3.7) (3.9) (4.5) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (4.4) (3.9) (4.2) (3.9) (3.1) (3.8) (4.0) (3.7) (3.7) (4.0) (3.5) (3.4) (3.7) (3.7) (3.6) Survivor
3.5 (2.7) (----) (----) (3.4) (3.2) (2.2) (1.9) (3.7) (3.3) (2.3) (3.1) (3.4) (2.2) (1.5) (1.7) (3.5) (3.6) (2.5) (2.1) (3.7) (3.6) (3.6) (3.6) (2.8) (3.5) (3.3) (3.8) (3.6) (1.9) Mentalist
3.4 (2.8) (----) (----) (3.3) (3.7) (1.7) (1.7) (----) (3.2) (2.0) (3.1) (3.3) (2.0) (1.2) (1.4) (3.5) (3.9) (2.3) (2.0) (3.5) (4.1) (3.5) (3.4) (2.2) (3.6) (3.5) (4.1) (4.1) (2.0) CSI
2.8 (2.4) (1.6) (1.6) (-----) (----) (----) (1.6) (2.1) (3.3) (3.6) (3.5) (3.3) (1.7) (1.1) (1.0) (1.6) (3.1) (2.9) (----) (2.7) (2.9) (2.6) (-----) (----) (2.8) (2.9) (2.7) (2.8) (3.1) Bones
2.3 (2.2) (1.1) (1.2) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (-----) (2.6) (3.0) (2.6) (2.6) (1.0) (0.7) (0.7) (1.0) (2.3) (2.5) (----) (2.0) (2.2) (1.7) (-----) (----) (2.2) (2.1) (2.3) (2.3) (3.0) Fringe
2.1 (2.3) (2.5) (2.9) (2.6) (3.4) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) The Marriage Ref
1.9 (1.7) (3.5) (3.6) (3.8) (4.7) (----) (----) (3.7) (3.8) (2.1) (3.7) (----) (----) (----) (1.7) (-----) (4.2) (4.1) (1.0) (3.7) (4.2) (4.1) (4.2) (4.4) (4.1) (4.8) (3.9) (3.9) (4.1) The Office
1.6 (1.5) (1.8) (1.9) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (1.0) (2.1) (----) (2.4) (2.6) (2.6) (2.7) (3.1) (3.1) (3.0) (3.7) (4.0) (----) FlashForward
1.6 (----) (2.9) (3.0) (2.9) (----) (----) (----) (2.8) (2.9) (1.7) (2.7) (2.3) (1.6) (1.0) (----) (----) 3.2 (3.0) (-----) (2.8) (3.0) (3.0) (3.1) (3.3) (3.0) (-----) (-----) (-----) (----) 30 Rock
1.6 (1.3) (1.6) (0.5) (0.5) (1.0) (0.7) (0.7) (1.5) (1.9) (1.8) (1.6) (0.7) (0.6) (0.4) (0.4) (0.8) (1.1) (0.6) (0.5) (1.6) (2.0) (1.9) (2.0) (0.9) (1.8) (1.7) (1.6) (1.7) (1.6) Vampire Diaries
1.4 (3.5) (3.7) (----) (3.9) (4.0) (1.3) (3.7) (4.4) (4.5) (1.5) (4.7) (4.8) (-----) (----) (0.7) (1.1) (1.4) (----) (----) (5.1) (5.6) (5.1) (5.2) (5.3) (5.0) (5.4) (6.1) (6.7) (1.8) Grey’s Anatomy
1.4 (1.2) (1.1) (1.2) (1.0) (0.9) (1.0) (1.2) (1.2) (1.4) (1.1) (1.3) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (1.9) (1.4) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) Project Runway
1.3 (----) (2.0) (2.0) (2.1) (2.3) (----) (----) (2.3) (2.3) (1.6) (2.0) (2.1) (1.3) (----) (-----) (----) (2.1) (2.1) (----) (2.0) (2.1) (2.2) (2.0) (2.1) (2.0) (2.1) (2.0) (1.8) (2.1) Parks and Recreation
1.2 (----) (2.1) (2.0) (1.9) (2.3) (----) (----) (2.3) (2.3) (1.6) (2.1) (2.4) (1.7) (----) (-----) (----) (2.2) (2.2) (----) (2.0) (2.1) (2.3) (2.1) (1.9) (2.0) (1.9) (2.9) (2.7) (3.8) Community
1.2 (1.1) (1.2) (0.6) (0.5) (0.6) (0.6) (0.7) (1.0) (1.1) (1.2) (1.3) (0.6) (0.6) (0.3) (0.3) (-----) (0.7) (0.5) (0.4) (1.2) (1.3) (1.2) (1.4) (0.8) (1.2) (1.2) (1.2) (1.2) (1.2) Supernatural
1.1 (2.6) (2.9) (1.0) (2.8) (2.7) (1.0) (2.8) (3.1) (3.3) (1.2) (3.6) (4.2) (-----) (----) (----) (0.9) (1.2) (3.2) (-----) (3.1) (3.9) (3.4) (3.6) (3.7) (3.8) (3.6) (4.6) (----) (----) Private Practice
1.0 (0.9) (0.9) (0.9) (1.0) (----) (-----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Real Housewives NYC
0.9 (0.6) (0.6) (0.8) (0.8) (1.1) (0.9) (0.8) (0.8) (0.8) (1.1) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) America’s Best Dance Crew
0.8 (0.8) (0.9) (0.7) (0.7) (0.8) (----) (0.9) (0.9) (0.9) (0.9) (1.0) (1.1) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) The First 48
0.7 (0.8) (0.8) (0.7) (0.8) (0.7) (0.8) (1.0) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) L.A. Ink
0.5 (0.6) (0.5) (0.5) (0.5) (0.4) (0.6) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Police Women of Maricopa
0.4 (0.5) (0.3) (0.4) (0.4) (----) (-----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Sober House
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Thought Fringe was doing better, glad it's been renewed for a 3rd season.
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<p>After watching the first two seasons with my wife, I figured out that it would always be the same. The only way I'll watch again is if they drop everyone off in the Arctic with a knife, backpack and five days worth of food. First one to make it back alive wins.</p> <p> </p> <p> On the other hand, I enjoy Fringe and although the Mentalist is a refreshing change in the CBS procedural lineup, I liked it better when it was called Psych.</p>
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A great idea for those wonderful summary tables would be to include an indication of whether the episodes for tonight are new or not. As you are now showing the Thursday table from the prior week on Thursday morning, it'd be useful to see what shows are new that night.
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I will never understand why people sit through such repetitive, unorginal crap like, CSI, Survivor, The (extremely scripted) Marriage Ref or the Mentalist.
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Once again, Herc, I fail to see your obsession (as well as the network's) with ratings. Sure, 20 years ago, it made sense that a show either lived or died based on the overnight returns in the major markets; but as I've said before, today's market transends those rules. Today, with Tivo, DVRs, Hulu.com, legal and illegal downloading, and a number of other outlets that viewers can watch their favorite programs, overnight returns don't mean squat!! I propose that there are more viewers of programs like Fringe, V, and other shows that are more "geek" based because that is the market that is willing to go out on the web and watch it there. I know this is changing and more and more, "normal" people are discovering they can connect their PCs to their televisions and surf the web in their living rooms. I believe it's only a matter of time before people decide its easier to watch on-line (and on THEIR time schedule) than when the networks decide. Sure, we can keep playing the ratings game, but when production companies start webcasting their shows instead of partnering with the networks (thereby cutting out the middleman for their profits) and the viewer's responses in the Neilson's reflect that, it'll be a whole new game then. And in the words of Judge Dredd "God help the guilty."
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Its because it still matters. You way not like, Herc may not like and I may not like but its one of the single most important metrics to judge a show's commercial success. <p> When ratings are no longer relevant, then threads like this will no longer exist.
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What is unoriginal or repititive about Survivor? Please explain.
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Falcon-1, that's the important distinction - the difference between what people are watching, and what people are watching live on TV. Eyeballs on the show as it airs is mainly what the networks care about. A higher rated show (or one that is sold with the potential for high ratings) means the networks can charge more for advertising (those 30-second snippets that come in clumps of 4 or 5 every 12 minutes or so that those who record fast-forward through). The theory is only those that watch "live" are seeing the commercials that make the show profitable for the network. A show with low ratings generates less income for the networks than one with high ratings. Ratings mean a lot less to cable shows like HBO as they judge overall popularity of their programming by subscribers. However, for the major networks, who air "for free", ratings affect their bottom line. Regardless of how many people are downloading a show, especially illegally, it's only those who see the commercials that really matter to the networks and their advertising clients. If the advertisers are unhappy with the lack of audience seeing their commercials they stop buying advertising space. <br>No ratings = no money = no show = nothing to record or download.
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Put a ball on the graph and it'll roll right downhill and into cancellation.
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Just read this online earlier.
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James Callis joins the cast. Always a pleasure to see him!
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<p>Uh ... Each so-called "season" features a group of people put in an exotic (and generally warm) location where they vie in the same basic competitions each year.</p> <p> </p> <p>Like I said, drop them off somewhere cold and make them actually survive without "winning" food. Let them kill for food, make fire, etc. and show real survival skills.</p> <p> </p> <p>Let's face the facts, standing on a pole with one foot or solving a maze will not keep you alive in a real survival situation.</p>
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Survivor started in 2000. They are currently in their "20th season". Law and Order: SVU started in 1999 and yet are only in their 11th season. Let's quit calling them seasons and start calling them cycles. It's a helluva lot more honest.
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April 16, 2010, 7:24 a.m. CST
They're called seasons. And you get up to 4 of them a year.
by V'Shael
Not every season in the real world corresponds to a TV season. Most people are comfortable using words that have more than one meaning, depending on the context.
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... that begins in September and ends in May actually makes up three "seasons"? In that case Gunsmoke went on for 60 seasons????
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