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Disney Confidently Begins Development On A Sequel To TRON LEGACY!

Beaks here...

Though it's common practice for studios to keep their options open on potential franchise films (years ago, Don Cheadle broke my heart by telling me he was signed for multiple Easy Rawlins movies), it's rare for a new screenplay to be commissioned when the first installment is still a good eight months away from hitting theaters. But that's what Disney is evidently doing with TRON LEGACY, the Joseph Kosinski-directed sequel to the Steve Lisberger original - and it's kind of hard to view this as anything but a sign of confidence in the finished product. Given that I'm wearing a Flynn's t-shirt as I write this, it's safe to say I am incredibly fucking pleased with this development. According to The Hollywood Reporter's Borys Kit, LOST writers Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz are currently writing a sequel to LEGACY, and may be looking to "round the story into a trilogy". Obviously, LEGACY will have to find a wide audience to justify a third trip to the game grid, but people seem much more excited about TRON today than they were in 1982 (which is important, as the first movie was a major box office disappointment). This is beginning to look more and more like a sure thing. Since no one's seen the second movie, it's impossible to speculate as to where Kitsis and Horowitz will take the story. Obviously, Disney has options on Kosinski and the stars, but that's no guarantee that they'd return for another go-round. I'm trying very hard not to get my hopes too high for TRON LEGACY, but stories like this (and the buzz from last weekend's WonderCon) are making this incredibly difficult.

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  • April 6, 2010, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Banking on it,,,, too early to tell

    by TRON

  • April 6, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST


    by Cilohocla

    Can't wait!

  • April 6, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST

    How can you tell

    by TRON

    if Tron Legacy is going to be a hit?

  • April 6, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Tron Legacy will be great

    by M Bison

    I'm just not sure we need to keep going back to it. I'm thinking after 25+ years Tron Legacy should have ended the franchise. I just don't see where they can go with it.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST

    The Trailer Was Better Than Whole Other Movies

    by Saluki

    Just give me the trilogy announcement already, Disney. You know you want to.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Yup ....

    by wombatut

    Yup ... just like you were all incredibly excited about "Clash of the Titans" until you actually saw the movie.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Development = script writing?

    by beetlegeuse

    just in case it is a hit they'll be ready to go

  • April 6, 2010, 10:09 p.m. CST


    by StonedWriter88

    really the only two sure fire movies this year in my opinion. tron likes the coolest fucking future dream movie we see before the end. its still a while off but im pretty excited.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Probly just not a good idea to get your hopes up

    by magnetoelectric

    on Carl Franklin even working B. I wouldnt even have believed Denzel if he said it.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Someone get Genndy to do a micro-series lead in.

    by future help

    His Clone Wars animation was better than all 3 prequels combined. Anyways...that would make my fuckin year if I read Genndy was commisioned to do 10 or 20 shorts in the Tronverse. Pay attention Disney.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:12 p.m. CST

    1. Inception 2. Tron Legacy 3. Scott Pilgrim

    by Saluki

    If we're talking about 'sure bets' for the year, as in quality. Glad to see Pilgrim getting some love, was worried it was going to be written off as another Speed Racer (which delivered, actually).

  • April 6, 2010, 10:27 p.m. CST


    by Dharma4

    Excellent list, but for me it'd be 1) TRON LEGACY, 2) SCOTT PILGRIM and then 3) INCEPTION

  • April 6, 2010, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Avatar is going down...

    by GeorgieBoy

    TRON Legacy will make Avatar look like the crap that it is.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:27 p.m. CST


    by Dharma4

    Excellent list, but for me it'd be 1) TRON LEGACY, 2) SCOTT PILGRIM and then 3) INCEPTION

  • April 6, 2010, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Okay here we go: TR3N, TRON L3GACY, TROISn

    by Yotz Von Frelnik

    (the last one is French... guess it'd be pronounced "twahn") Gotta play the dumb sequel name game.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Sequel already in the works...

    by MandrakeRoot

    Can you people not see how big of a disaster this franchise is going to turn out? This is gonna be yet another Hollywood blockbuster that has so much hope but ultimately ends up madly disappointing. And while I would absolutely love to be proven wrong here, the proof is RIGHT HERE in this article - they're already starting to work on a sequel and the first one isn't even out yet! Thats what we call a "money grab" and it's clearly not an artistic decision. No self respecting film-maker would rush into a sequel like this before the first film is released, when work could - and probably should - STILL be done on the first flick. <p> This will certainly have some pleasing visuals but I seriously doubt it will a memorable affair. Disneys track record of late is nothing too fancy and you all know it. And how quick we all forget...remember EPISODE 1 and INDY 4? Movies you thought would kick ass because of your childhood attachment/ nostalgia, but these 20-30 year later sequels HARDLY EVER work. I just wouldn't get those hopes up too I said I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I can't ignore the fact.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:34 p.m. CST

    my list: 1.Tron 2.Kick-Ass 3.Pilgrim 4.Inception 5.IronMan2

    by future help

    6. some unknown killer surprise/original

  • April 6, 2010, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Sequel Before Release

    by Saluki

    I hear you, MandrakeRoot. Usually, this is simply done as a marketing tool. A week before release, news is released of a sequel or trilogy to show off "Hey, the studio loves the film!" But often to me it comes off as too full hardy. Cameron did admit he would have to make a singular GOOD movie before even mentioning sequels. I'm fine with such plans being laid beforehand, even in this secretive manner which the Tron folks are going about it, but please spare us the official announcements.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:48 p.m. CST

    What do you mean broke your heart?

    by ltgalloway

    Care to elaborate Beaks? Not sure what you are trying to say there. Devil in a Blue Dress wasn't bad I thought, though I haven't read the source material. It actually sounds like a good series I may have to pick up.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:48 p.m. CST

    Tron will reveal Avatar as shit?

    by MandrakeRoot

    My god. It's laughable how nerds will sit here and praise TRON then rip into Avatar. Double standard anyone? Any criticism that's been thrown at Avatar can be equally thrown at Tron without any hesitation. A visually progressive film with a simple often 2-dimensional plot, an average-at-best script with characters who were not very interesting (note these aren't my views on Avatar, however these seem to be the main criticism). Tron has some interesting ideas and undeniably amazing graphics, but certainly NOT some narrative masterpiece. I swear to god you nerds and your nostalgia is just oh so fucking pathetic. TRON is visually cool as fuck, without a doubt, and that is so many people love is unique in that sense. You see, there is nothing wrong with a film having it's strengths in the visual department - film is in fact a VISUAL MEDIUM. Perhaps Avatar wasn't the Godfather of sci-fi, but it was an extraordinary well made visual masterpiece with a satisfying emotional journey. Just cause Avatar is massively popular I know it's easy target to hate, but some of you should really take a step back and realize how foolish it is.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Tron was cool back in the day


    But this sequel is gonna bomb. Doesn't matter how good it is.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:18 p.m. CST

    You nerds? Mandrake, you're writing on AICN.

    by Saluki

    One of us. One of us. One of us.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:23 p.m. CST

    The new trilogy titles:

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    1) TRON Legacy</p><p>2) TRON Evolution</p><p>3) TRON Dynasty

  • April 6, 2010, 11:27 p.m. CST

    A Man's list 1. The Expendables 2. other shit

    by MaxCalifornia.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:28 p.m. CST

    More TRON titles:

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    TRON - PWNED</p><p>TRON - Epic Fail, LOL</p><p>TRON - Bit's Revenge</p><p>TRON - Land Sark</p><p>TRON 3: TRONITY

  • April 6, 2010, 11:41 p.m. CST


    by wackybantha

    See what I did there, X-Philes?

  • April 7, 2010, 12:22 a.m. CST

    TR3N - BYTE IT

    by Gorgomel

  • April 7, 2010, 12:25 a.m. CST

    I just watched the original Tron the other day...

    by Jared_Syn_City

    I have to really is mediocre.... Lisberger just didn't have the chops....and yet, I'm super pumped for the new one. I loved the game, had the toys (Lightcycle with the zip cord), and I get a mild geek chub when I hear the Wendy Carlos score. I just can't believe the ballsy move by Disney to make a huge big budget sequel to a 28-year old box-office disaster.

  • April 7, 2010, 12:32 a.m. CST


    by Jared_Syn_City

    Different kind of deal comparing Tron to Indy and Star Wars. Those two franchises were EPIC and had become something bigger than just movie franchises, they were a part of people's lives. Lucas took everything that people loved about it.. and shit all over it. Tron was a cool cult-ish move that people have come to appreciate more over time. And by the looks of everything, Disney is taking a much different approach because people will not only embrace the new technology - they are pumped about it. It's not like Indy with CGI monster ants and hypnotized monkeys - it's taking an unfulfilled concept and trying to finally do it justice.

  • April 7, 2010, 12:39 a.m. CST


    by Gorgomel

  • April 7, 2010, 12:41 a.m. CST


    by Gorgomel

  • April 7, 2010, 12:47 a.m. CST

    The director has never made a feature film before!

    by RandySavage

    Because of that Tron 2 could end being hilariously bad. <P> I hope for the opposite and the I thought the trailer was terrific, but Kosinski has 0 previous films to his credit (according to IMDB). <P> Odd of Disney to give him $100M+ to play with.

  • April 7, 2010, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Beaks, why the problem with Easy Rawlins movies?

    by BadMrWonka

    Devil in a Blue Dress was pretty flawed, but not horrible.<p> or did you mean that Cheadle was signed on AS Easy Rawlins? give me more info, brother!

  • April 7, 2010, 1:27 a.m. CST

    Lost writers for Tron

    by MorganLeafy

    Listen, I even like Lost. However, does this mean that the writers will introduce a lot of characters and plotlines early on, only to leave them unused for the rest of the trilogy and then quickly deal with them in the end when everybody has forgotten about them in the first place? Well?

  • April 7, 2010, 1:40 a.m. CST

    We already know it'll be a success..

    by ShogunMaster

    The same people that watch Transformers will watch this. If it's done well, people will see it again. They hype alone will make this a success regardless of the product. Trust me...

  • April 7, 2010, 2:02 a.m. CST

    AUTOMAN LEGACY is next

    by Gorgomel

  • April 7, 2010, 2:03 a.m. CST


    by Gorgomel

  • April 7, 2010, 2:04 a.m. CST


    by Gorgomel

  • April 7, 2010, 2:04 a.m. CST

    D.A.R.Y.L. 2 vs ASIMO

    by Gorgomel

  • April 7, 2010, 2:07 a.m. CST

    I saw the Tron Legacy trailer in IMAX 3D...

    by Zardoz

    ...and I jizzed in my pants! Fucking awesome! December cannot come soon enough for me now. This movie looks insanely cool and it will make shitloads of cash come christmas!

  • April 7, 2010, 2:24 a.m. CST

    What is it with trilogies? Why not just make a series

    by Mr Nicholas

    of decent movies that each stand alone and keep going as long as people are interested? Indy was never planned as a trilogy, nor Bond.

  • April 7, 2010, 2:27 a.m. CST

    Tron is more important then Star Wars.

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    Star Wars is based on a fantasy of good and evil like a good ol serial from the 50s. Tron on the other hand is a truly visionary movie who's relevance today is based more on reality of where we are technologically. <BR> <BR> In that sense it's revolutionary in what was being discussed in the movie back in 1982. Prolific in it's language and how far we have come that most of us now understand it. Those who saw this back in the 80s will get what I mean by this as a lot of us were kids and had not had a lot of experience with computers or their terms. <BR> <BR> *puts on flame suit* <BR> <BR> Bring it.

  • April 7, 2010, 2:32 a.m. CST

    And I am not talking in the sense of money

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    Don't give EVEN give me that argument about how Star Wars changed the big summer movie forever speech. Save it. That's what went wrong with movies in the first place because we have had a lot of crap over the years. A few gems but a lot of shit. Tron Legacy could not come at a better time and I am glad Tron itself is back in the spot light so it can get the attention it so rightly deserves.

  • April 7, 2010, 3:30 a.m. CST

    This movie will be shit

    by kwisatzhaderach

    A visual effects artist directing a script by the writers of One Tree Hill, Birds of Prey and 14 Going on 30, a vacuous twentysomething lead... <p> And yes, I love the original Tron, but it was so a product of its time. This is a desperate moneygrab.

  • April 7, 2010, 4:37 a.m. CST

    I see a pattern here with Avatar fans

    by umbral_shadow_

    Interesting how the vocal Avatar supporters are sharpening their knives saying how Tron will be "shit" and a "money grab" and praying it will tank commercially and critically. Dream on assholes. The truth is that Avatar did not get much nerd love and Tron is getting shedloads. Tron Legacy won't make as much money as Avatar BUT it will be much more loved by the geeks - and Avatar fans are finding that thought hard to digest. The simple truth is that a Tron trilogy will smack the Avatar trilogy into the ground and all you can do is stare and weep. Haha!

  • April 7, 2010, 5:02 a.m. CST

    RE: Beaks & "Devil In A Blue Dress"

    by BC007

    I think what Beaks meant is that Don Cheadle got his hopes up by saying he was signed for multiple Easy Rawlins films, but in the end, they weren't made. "Devil In A Blue Dress" was a good film, though still pales next to the original novel. Excellent series too - and for that matter, Mosley is an excellent writer (I'm reading his latest right now, as a matter of fact), so if you're interested in checking it out, Itgalloway, do so, you won't be disappointed!

  • April 7, 2010, 5:20 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    The difference being that Avatar was directed by James Cameron and Tron is directed by Joseph Kosinski. <p> Avatar didn't get much nerd love? What planet are you on? <p> Bottom line: If James Cameron ever included a shot in one of his films with an albino Matrix Reloaded-reject doing air guitar I would personally hunt him down and kill him myself.

  • April 7, 2010, 5:20 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    The difference being that Avatar was directed by James Cameron and Tron is directed by Joseph Kosinski. <p> Avatar didn't get much nerd love? What planet are you on? <p> Bottom line: If James Cameron ever included a shot in one of his films with an albino Matrix Reloaded-reject doing air guitar I would personally hunt him down and kill him myself.

  • April 7, 2010, 5:23 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    Its the same thing over and over again on this site. OMG OMG OMG THIS IS GOING TO BE AMAZING - then the film turns out to be shit and everyone looks moronic. A simple look at the credits can surmise the finished quality of a film. Avatar was from the writer of director of The Terminator, Aliens, The Abyss, Terminator 2 and True Lies so it was good. Tron Legacy is from the writers and director of... oh, I already went there. Not to mention that the dialogue scene between Alan and Flyn's kid was absolutely atrociously directed and performed. <p> I really hope the Tron sequel is good, as I said I love the original. But from what i've seen so far it does not look promising.

  • April 7, 2010, 5:36 a.m. CST

    2RON L3G4CY

    by Diagnostic

    Oh yeah.

  • April 7, 2010, 6:15 a.m. CST

    about freakin time. .......

    by theDannerDaliel

    Ive been waiting along time for this news. Is it going to be in 4-D? it freaking better be....

  • April 7, 2010, 6:40 a.m. CST

    Is Tron Legacy shot in 3-D or a conversion?

    by Napolean Solo

    After viewing the abysmal "Clash Of The Tits" I have to know.

  • April 7, 2010, 6:45 a.m. CST


    by umbral_shadow_

    And why are you so eager to hate on Tron Legacy when its still eight months away. Why are you trolling? Its pissing you off that people are hyped for this film. Why? I ask you again - why are you already trolling?

  • April 7, 2010, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Sure, because my mother in law will LOVE Tron Legacy

    by ricarleite2

    There will be millions waiting for another confusing Tron film. Investing in a sequel to Tron Legacy at this point is burning money.

  • April 7, 2010, 7:10 a.m. CST

    About Giving Kosinski 100M...

    by WIBoomer1

    ...Disney did the same thing with Lisberger, just 17M in 1982 dollars (or roughly 38M in today's dollars). He never directed anything either. And I'm not saying that Tron was epic or anything like that. I agree that the proof is going to be in the pudding. It's either gonna ROCK, or it's gonna suck. One can only hope for a while, then get blown away!!!

  • April 7, 2010, 7:23 a.m. CST

    Beaks, since we're name-dropping, Cheadle told me that

    by YackBacker

    he told you about the Easy Rawlins gig to fuck with your mind.

  • April 7, 2010, 7:25 a.m. CST

    Disney's counting eggs like they're chickens.

    by rev_skarekroe

    Sure, it might be a big hit. Or it could be this year's Speed Racer.

  • April 7, 2010, 7:33 a.m. CST

    the answer is kwisatzhaderach is...

    by quantize

    ..a lameass douchebag.

  • April 7, 2010, 7:54 a.m. CST

    Avatar is an ok film at best.

    by theDannerDaliel

    The story is weak. Acting is ok. Its an hour too long. Sure the visuals are good,but come on.It never needed to be in 3-D. The cat from the alice trailer was the best thing in 3-D i saw that nigth. God damn pollen floating around? wooowww. big whop. True Lies..........I end with that....true lies....

  • April 7, 2010, 8:13 a.m. CST

    TRON LEGACY won't make AVATAR money, but it should do well

    by SpyGuy

    TRON LEGACY arrives a month after HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS VOL. 1 and the only other film that could impact it is THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: VOYAGE OF THE DAWN TREADER, but do a lot of people care about NARNIA after the boring PRINCE CASPIAN movie? As long as TRON LEGACY isn't a complete piece of shit, it should do serious bank, especially in 3-D.

  • April 7, 2010, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Do not make two sequels back-to-back

    by jarjarmessiah

    Ala Pirates and matrix. Just work on making one good movie at a time. In other words a definate begining middle and end. It would also be nice if they actually have a whole script written before the start shoot, unlike pirates 3.

  • April 7, 2010, 8:25 a.m. CST


    by JamesT

    Does anyone have an idea of how much money Disney spent on promoting the original? I honestly have no memory of even seeing trailers before other movies for Tron.

  • April 7, 2010, 8:31 a.m. CST


    by Reckoner

    That cracked me up: TROISN

  • April 7, 2010, 8:35 a.m. CST

    It's like Spaceballs

    by Michael_Jacksons_Ghost

    You can now watch the sequel before the first movie comes out!

  • April 7, 2010, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Corporate politics at work?

    by Dreamfasting

    Doesn't Disney have a policy that any movie they make now needs to come with a quota of franchise/merchandise opportunities? Planning a sequel would might simply be a requirement to navigate the internal politics of the company.

  • April 7, 2010, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Every Director has a first time...

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    If it were up to you, you wouldn't let Jim Cameron make Terminator because Piranha II: The Spawning sucked!</p><p>I could tell with Alien 3 that David Fincher was immensely talented. Did they "gamble" on him? How about Bryan Singer with The Usual Suspects? I frankly had no idea Nolan was capable of batman Begins, let alone The Dark Knight just based on Insomnia and Memento. Yes, everyone jizzed over Memento, but it was only unique because of the gimmick of having the story play out backwards. If you were to watch it in order it's pretty damn average. So I say, just like Zack Snider with Dawn of teh Dead, give the guy a shot. The Tron trailers own your fanboy fucking nutsack, so I have every faith Legacy will knock it out of the park. Starting work on sequels 8 months before it even hits theaters shows Disney's supreme confidence too.</p><p>I think that's really where the hate is coming from because, just like with Avatar, you are about to be proven inescapbaly wrong.

  • April 7, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST


    by BartholomewNeff

    Blue Sky Disney Reported this over a month ago. I remember when the trades reported news, not history.

  • April 7, 2010, 10:20 a.m. CST


    by gotilk

    That should be the thrid title.

  • April 7, 2010, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Borrowing from the Matrix is so hot right now.

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    The new Tron trailer was beautifully executed, there is no denying that. However, I did notice a lot of elements that reminded of the Matrix. <p> I just saw the new Resident Evil trailer and noticed Matrix looking shit as well. <p> In 2010 the Matrix is getting sampled more than James Brown in the earlier days of Hip-Hop!

  • April 7, 2010, 11:19 a.m. CST

    From what I've heard

    by Flea Circus

    Looks great but has shitty acting and storytelling, but since when has that stopped a movie from becoming huge?

  • April 7, 2010, 12:13 p.m. CST

    I hope this flops...

    by satansteve

    ...purely so they invest millions of dollars into a threequel that nobody wants to see and then can it, having wasted tons of Disney money. Just because it would make me laugh at their arrogance. Tron rules.

  • April 7, 2010, 12:51 p.m. CST

    One waits 30 years for anotehr TROn movie...

    by AsimovLives

    ... and two came along. Não há fome que não dê em fartura!

  • April 7, 2010, 12:53 p.m. CST

    LOST writers are going to write the new movie?

    by AsimovLives

    It will be shit, then.

  • April 7, 2010, 1:14 p.m. CST

    If lost writers do it...

    by satansteve

    It'll give us lots of new questions and then not answer them, leaving it fairly open to interpretation whilst everyone hails it as genius when, really, it's just lazy writing.

  • April 7, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Given that I'm wearing a Frito-stained, jizz-soaked Flynn's t-sh

    by AzulTool

  • April 7, 2010, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Disney rushes too much

    by ominus

    Imho there is a good chance that Tron Legacy might turn out a flop,regardless of how great it is going to be.Mainly because it is a concept with not a wide appeal.

  • April 7, 2010, 1:29 p.m. CST

    theycallmemrtibbs you mean Matrix the movie that

    by ominus

    fucking ripped off from everything else?<br /><p>From Ghost in the Shell to Morrison's Invinsibles and Matt Wagner's Mage? come on now,its art,and art has,is and always be about ripping off from each other.<br />

  • April 7, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST

    REVENGE_of_FETT Cameron didnt direct Piranhas

    by ominus

    the producer did it.fact.

  • April 7, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST

    and Terminator was Cameron's vision

    by ominus

    His story,his script.It is not a case where a producer has a script and is looking for someone to direct it.With Cameron it was the opposite.A director with a script looking for someone to produce it into a movie.

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  • April 7, 2010, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Just make sure Daft Punk works on the soundtrack

    by TheWaqman

    I'm even more excited for the music than I am for the film. The snippet we got in the teaser was so ill. Especially the glitch drum-break near the end.

  • April 7, 2010, 3:27 p.m. CST

    yeah it was like those 80s/90s arcade games

    by ominus

    with their 8-bit sound.damn those were the days.

  • April 7, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Did those douches write this one?

    by Jaka

    Because I want fuck all to do with anything written by anybody who has had anything to do with fucking Lost. Not for a like, a good ten years. Every writer who worked on that show should be forced to live in a room full of beds, sharing one shower and one open toilet while Lost plays on screens covering every inch of the walls and ceiling for the next five years. Then, for the five after that they should be forced to sit there in silence contemplating the bullshit they released upon the world.

  • April 7, 2010, 3:49 p.m. CST

    They need a redo of Automan to go with this

    by Han Cholo

    And bring on a Supertrain remake as well

  • April 7, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST


    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    Yes he did. Jim cameron got fired very near the end of production, then broke into the studio and worked on the editing.

  • April 7, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Is this confidence or hubris on Disney part?

    by AsimovLives

  • April 7, 2010, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Matrix, while awesome...

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    Was mostly a hodgepodge of sci fi as you said. mostly I would say Star Wars, followed by The Terminator and a buncha anime stuff like Ghost in the Shell.</p><p>Sometimes when I say The Matrix is a rip of Star Wars, people go "huh?", so allow me to elucidate:</p><p>1) Morpheus = Obi-Wan Kenobi</p><p>2) Neo = Luke Skywalker</p><p>3) Joey Pants = Dark Han Solo</p><p>4) Carrie Whatsherfuck = Leia</p><p>5) Tank + Dozer = Chewie</p><p>6) Agent Smith = Vader</p><p>Do I need to point out how the plot follows A New Hope almost exactly?

  • April 7, 2010, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Good to see that not everybody is hipnotized...

    by AsimovLives

    ... by the bulshit that is LOST. And yeah, JJ Abrams is the one most to blame. It was this fuck who set the template that the others had to follow. JJ Abrams likes to boast he's the creator of LOST. Well, then he's the one to have to bear the burden of the blame as well, regardless of when he left the show, like the fucking scared rat he is. Fuck LOST!

  • April 7, 2010, 4:27 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Both Star Wars and The Marix follow the same template, what Joseph Campbell called the hero's journey, also knnow as the "monomyth". And it's not just those two movies, there's far more exmaples. If you are to blame this movies, blame them from being inspired by the same source. Which is mythologial. What Joseph Cambel did was to make evidence and he systematized the communality to all the myths on Earth's societies. Which later made storytellers pretty lazy in coming up with stories, but made studio executives' job easier because now they had a formula to play with.

  • April 7, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST

    evidence = evident

    by AsimovLives

  • April 7, 2010, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Asi, I don't hate JJ Abrams

    by Jaka

    And although I hate Star Trek, I don't hate it because of JJ Abrams. Lost, on the other hand, I fucking hate with every ounce of my being. I loved it during the first season. They lost me for season two and most of three. I cam back at the end of three and stuck with it until a few weeks ago when it became clear that they've been pouring on the bullshit for six years in order to make the show EXACTLY what they said it WASN'T GOING TO BE ABOUT way back at the beginning. Plus, what with all the supposed revelations they've tossed out this year it becomes even more clear they really didn't have a clue where it was going most of the time. Lastly, the whole "we're not going to answer questions and explain things when it's done" line is an utter and complete cop-out. I'm glad people liked/like it, but a pretty large majority of the people who frequent the Lost columns here at AICN, as well as around teh internets, are way too far into the land of obsession to have intelligent conversations with about the show. If you're not part of their clique, understanding the show the way they see it, then you're a fucking dimwitted idiot. Yeah, right. (holds up mirror)

  • April 7, 2010, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Jaka, i dont hate JJ Abrams

    by AsimovLives

    Despise is more accurate.

  • April 7, 2010, 4:47 p.m. CST

    I could tell that LOST was bullshiting onthe mystery aspects...

    by AsimovLives

    ... right from season one. One single episode suffices to see the obviousness of that. It's so easy to see the difference between a show that is mysterious on porpose (CARNIVÁLE) and one that is just pilling random shit with no porpose (LOST). And just to make sure i keep having a poor opinion of mankind, it's LOST that gets the audiences, instead of a truly genious show like CARNIVÁLE. And people ask me why i have a poor opinion about people in general! Fuck this shit!

  • April 7, 2010, 4:50 p.m. CST

    And FRAUD TREK is bad because of JJ Abrams

    by AsimovLives

    That movie is shit BECAUSE of JJ Abrams, not despiste him. Not to diminish the contributions of his two associate assclowns Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman, of course.

  • April 7, 2010, 4:54 p.m. CST

    But the owners of the property...

    by Jaka

    ...had to green light taking Trek in that direction. So the blame goes higher than any of those people. It's a giant pyramid of people shitting revisionist history out every pore of their beings.

  • April 7, 2010, 5:11 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Just because there's more to blame doesn't isemp Abrams an dhis two assclown writers of their shae of the blame. Which is big. This were the creative part of the movie, and responsible for how it turned out. They are not getting off the hook that easy. Abrams is like Bay in that regard, he always likes to pass the blame for his failures to somebody else. Nice try, hakcboy, but no cigar. Doesn't work for Bay, doesn't work for Abrams either. Ever sinc ei saw Aberams talk in the documentaries about CLOVERFIELD, i noticed what a scumbag he is. Always ready to take away anybody else's credits to himself while always putting on others the blame of his own failures. A total despicable scumbag. I feel for the poor bastards who have to make a living working for this piece of shit.

  • April 7, 2010, 5:14 p.m. CST

    FRAUD TREK DVD is the only movie ever...

    by AsimovLives

    ... where half the running time of the bloopers reel is dedicated to the director's antics onset. Never before a bloopers reel featured the movie director. Never! This says alot of what a bitch for media exposure that JJ Abrams is. Fuck him!

  • April 7, 2010, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Back on the subject....

    by AsimovLives

    ... Disney might be chewing more then can bite. For the sake of the movie, i hope not. I really want TRON LEGACY to be good. I really do.

  • April 7, 2010, 5:43 p.m. CST

    LOST is indeed shit

    by umbral_shadow_

    I can't disagree. Its the most pretentious, vapid comatose inducing trickle of menopausal cunt juice to come out of our TV sets in living memory.

  • April 7, 2010, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Not convinced Tron 2 will do well.

    by fiester

    There's a small but very hardcore group of dweebs that are waiting for it, but the vast majority of the public only associates it with a lame '80s movie that became a sort of punch-line.<p> There is no reason to assume people are going to line up to see this. None whatsoever.

  • April 7, 2010, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Disagree fiester

    by Jaka

    Every single person I know from my teenage niece and nephew to fifty year old movie geeks have been commenting on wanting to see Tron lately. And it doesn't come out for months. Disney has done a great job getting the trailers in the right place for this one. If I was a gambling man I'd bet on this one bringing in big box office numbers.

  • April 7, 2010, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Yeah fiester, you're sort of way off fucking base there.

    by dr sauch

    Pretty much everyone I know is excited for Tron. The original film wasn't exactly a "punch line." Personally, I have not been this excited for a movie since The Dark Knight.

  • April 7, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST

    Tron Legacy will make at least $1bn

    by umbral_shadow_

    even if it's only above average. Hell, Alice In Wonderland made over $600m and it was shit. Now, if it actually turns out to be very good, word of mouth will push it much further only time will tell. But this idea that only fifty geeks will show up is laughable. Only those desperate for it to fail are still talking like that.

  • April 7, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST


    by JudasPriestly

    I hope the powers that be intregrate the love scenes into the blue-ray version of TRON.

  • April 7, 2010, 10:23 p.m. CST

    No, I am spot on.

    by fiester

    As I said a bunch of hardcore nerds are into it, but most people could not care less. This flick will not do well, wait and see. No one gives a shit about Tron. It was a lousy movie. The very vocal minority on here reminds me of the nutjobs that thought Serenity was the best movie since The Godfather--and you could argue that flick had a bigger built-in base. At least Firefly was a recent show, not a goofy 25 year old flick no one saw at the time that remains a punch line for "goofy movie."<p> Suck it, Troniacs.

  • April 7, 2010, 10:52 p.m. CST

    AT LEAST 100bgeeks will show up


    for this shit. the original movie sucked. the only thing great about it was the crazy effects, nowadays that style looks cheezy as fuck. Fuck this movie. Make something original and modern you fucking hacks.

  • April 7, 2010, 10:55 p.m. CST

    jesus christ


    every talkback I open up has Asimov ranting about Star Trek in it. Bro. Get over it. lol.

  • April 8, 2010, 12:09 a.m. CST


    by jerseycajun

    Tron was flawed, but it wasn't lousy. It played around with a few heady ideas that never quite congealed. The graphics were what brought it most of its attention, but it would be foolish to think that taking another stab at these ideas won't produce a result that does bring those ideas together in a more focused manner and hence create a film far superior to the first. Unless you've got inside intel on script problems, director issues, or some other kind of solid negative info on this, you like 99% of the rest of the internet, are talking out of your ass. I wouldn't go the opposite way and say "it's gonna be the best thing since the Dark Knight, and make 3 times the money" because that would be just as foolish. All I can say is that from what we've been shown, there is at least some reason to believe it could turn out pretty good and at least better than the original. If we all grounded our expectations in modesty, the movie-going internet crowd would at least appear sane. That goes for lovers and haters.

  • April 8, 2010, 1:07 a.m. CST

    fiester, you're clearly trolling now

    by Jaka

    You're right about this just like you were probably right about Avatar, correct? And I bet a bunch of people told you then that you were wrong, that they all had a bunch of friends and acquaintances who were looking forward to seeing it, right? And I'm sure you're sitting there very pleased with yourself because you think you've stirred some sort of pot or something. Fact is, you just look silly. This movie will make back it's budget in the first 2-3 weeks. It will be profitable within 45 days. Count on it. Also, you and the other geniuses who are proclaiming the suckage of the first movie are clearly under 25 years of age. Because the first movie did not suck. Regardless of box office, it had quite a large, loyal following. The toys were awesome and the video game is an arcade classic. So please, stop talking out you ass. It's embarrassing.

  • April 8, 2010, 2:35 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Actually, TRON was huges overseas back in the day. Just because you americans are so provicinalists about the movie's box office doesn't mean you are right about calling this movie and that box office flops. Many mvoies americans think are flops actually made lots of money elsewhere. Try to understand there's a bigger world outside your borders.

  • April 8, 2010, 2:37 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    I'm certainly no worst obsessed then a guy whose nick reads like a demented celebraty stalker. Restraining orders were invented for less.

  • April 8, 2010, 3:32 a.m. CST

    Saw a new print of Tron on the big screen...

    by Zardoz

    ...a couple of years ago at The Castro theater. It was a totally packed house and everyone LOVED IT! Sure, some of it was dated, but it definitely had audience appeal and held up very well. There's definitely an interest in the new movie and let me tell you: it really, really, REALLY looks great in IMAX 3D! Go see "How to Train Your Dragon" in IMAX just for the TRON Legacy trailer...(and "Dragon" is really good, too, btw)

  • April 8, 2010, 5:56 a.m. CST

    Lost again

    by MorganLeafy

    No, Lost isn't shit, far from it. It has it faults but all in all it's still the most entertaining show on tv. Have you people noticed that the Lost TB on this site are by far thje most popular?

  • April 8, 2010, 6:58 a.m. CST

    How far is LOST from shit?

    by AsimovLives

    ONE MILLIMETER. For you americans who still used the archaic imperial system from the middle ages, go look it up.

  • April 8, 2010, 7:01 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    That castro theater sounds sweet. a real haven fior true movie geeks. It was also there where the workprint version of BLADE RUNNER was first seen,a nd which kickstarted all the renewed interest in the movie which later was responsible for the new versionandthe hugh kickass DVD. Were you one of the fortunate souls who watched the BR workprint back in 1991?<br><br>By the way, great nick. That movie doesn't have enough love, if you ask me.

  • April 8, 2010, 9:09 a.m. CST

    They made sure TRON Legacy will be a worthy sequel

    by Grooveraider

    As for the naysayers - you either have no knowledge of computers or you were born after the original TRON's theatrical release. The rest of us have followed TRON for decades. We get the plot / metaphors in the film pertaining to computer programs n' such. TRON's legacy spans for two decades. Thanks to its viral ARG its refreshing people's memory of what became of ENCOM today. By the time TRON Legacy releases - people should be well caught up. And they'll love it ! I predict TRON to be as HUGE as Avatar.

  • April 8, 2010, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Tron cost $17M, made $33M domestic

    by REVENGE_of_FETT</p><p>I assume it made at least that much overseas. We don't have numbers for that, probably because it had mutiple distributers.</p><p>It wasn' the Star Wars Disney was hoping for, but I'd hardly call it a box office bomb.

  • April 8, 2010, 11:13 a.m. CST

    As a kid aged ten...

    by funkyknitwear

    .... Tron was the most amazing thing me and mt friends had ever seen at the cinema. we went again and again. why do people always assume that these films had to work on an adult level. it was a disney film. with cgi we'd never seen before. and light cycles. it made star wars look like a load of airfix models. plus you got to leave the theatre and spend hours outside on he arcade machine. perfect... if it's crap when it comes out then so beit, but quit with the scorn of the original. if you missed that ofiginal experience then i feel sorry for you, but at the time it was the best. end of line

  • April 8, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Jaka concerning Lost

    by ominus

    you speak the truth my friend.

  • April 8, 2010, 1:10 p.m. CST


    by cornponious

    Tron Legacy might do big numbers, but it will NOT do Avatar numbers. Not ever.

  • April 8, 2010, 1:11 p.m. CST


    by cornponious

    Tron Legacy might do big numbers, but it will NOT do Avatar numbers. Not ever.

  • April 8, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST


    by Zardoz

    The Castro is great, and I used to work there, too. (Met Spike Jonz and Sofia Coppola, Peter Coyote, & Jim Jarmusch there) I didn't see the BR workprint at the theater, but I did see the DC of BR when it cmee back to the theater. (as well as the original run in '82, of course!) I've had my "nick" since '99 on this site, thanks! (As to your unreasonable hatred of LOST, well, nobody's perfect!) End of Line.

  • April 8, 2010, 5:17 p.m. CST

    The Lost talkbacks are the most popular...

    by Jaka

    ...because there are five people in there who discuss every ray of light reflecting off every speck of dust ad infinitum, attacking anybody who doesn't see said speck of dust the same way they see it. And have you noticed the post counts declining? Because the series is ending with a giant, "thud! WTF?"

  • April 8, 2010, 5:22 p.m. CST

    I don't expect anything to do Avatar numbers

    by Jaka

    Ever. I didn't expect Avatar to do Avatar numbers, and I'm a fan of the movie (not a worshiper, just a fan). But I don't see how anybody could be so doom and gloom about Tron. They're clearly not paying attention if they think it's not going to make huge piles of money. Besides that, failure at the box office prediction are so high school. Box office totals don't make a movie good or bad. That's just the business side of the equation. It should have nothing to do with the love of watching films.

  • April 8, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST

    And The Castro is mighty great.

    by Jaka


  • April 8, 2010, 9:01 p.m. CST

    "The rest of us have followed TRON for decades."

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Yeah.... right. <p> Some people are so full of shit they should be born already attached to toilets.