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How Much Prequelness Will THE THING Prequel Have??
Merrick here...
ShockTillYouDrop caught up with Joel Edgerton, who'll appear in Matthijs van Heijningen Jr.'s prequel to THE THING (now filming). Many folks have been wondering to what extent this would lead into John Carpenter's 1982 film - a question which STYD put to Edgerton.
"Well, it's a prequel and definitely the Norwegian base is modeled on the base you see in the Carpenter film," he told us. "Being a prequel you'll see a lot of tie-ins as to how the base comes to be the way it is in the Carpenter film, being so destroyed, and that evidence you see in the Carpenter film, We'll get a glimpse into that. It's great because you have a bunch of people behind making it—Eric Newman and Marc (Abraham), the producers at Strike (Entertainment), those guys and Matthijs the director, they have such respect for the original film that they're not trying to do a remake, they're just trying to pay homage to the original and also do the right thing with what I think is a real cool way in to doing that, and revisiting the material."
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I've been on set and I've been at the base, and it's a full station, and it's f*cking exciting. We're out there in Antarctica, it's amazing. We're shooting in Toronto, but it feels like we're there."
...says Edgerton HERE.
Interesting! I guess we should prepare for the gnarltastic desecration and dismemberment of many crazy Swedes. As long as it's not PG-13, there may be hope.
If you haven't seen, or want to re-watch, Carpenter's adaptation of John W. Campbell's WHO GOES THERE?, you can now find it on Blu-Ray for $12.00 or less HERE
. Campbell's progenitor novella is also avialable - HERE
. For a while, THE THING was also streamable in HD via Netflix. Although, if I recall, the fact that it was HD wasn't indicated on the film's Netflix listing. Not sure if it's still there or not, but it might be worth a look...
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I've been on set and I've been at the base, and it's a full station, and it's f*cking exciting. We're out there in Antarctica, it's amazing. We're shooting in Toronto, but it feels like we're there."
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(adopts Joker voice)....'I like that'.
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I don't understand how you can make a full feature film based around nothing more than the opening gambit from a great film.
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I get the feeling this is going to be like that Assault on Precinct 13 remake. Or Resident Evil or something.
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I hope they don't fuck it up simply because the the first one is one of the best films ever made, as far as I am concerned.
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I'd much rather have a true sequel than a prequel. I mean, we know the alien will be disguised as a dog and will be chased by two men flying a helicopter. Whatever joy we get that there are two survivors is squelched sicne we know they both die in the first five minutes of the first movie. I really don't see the point. Does anybody else?
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Or the "Hunt for Red October" method of panning the camera mid-sentence and the dialogue switches from Swede (I mean Norwegian) to English (probably with a German accent). Say that reminds me, any ever notice that the ancient Romans all had English accents? Why not Godfather-esque Daygo accents?
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It has to end with the two guys chasing the dog in the helicopter. Simple as that. And call it....Who Goes There? Do this then every body's happy....Oh! and make the film good..ahem!
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The original was a bona fide classic. It s my third film from the 80s behing Blade Runner and ESB. No need for a fucking remake.
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A lot of prequels have a certain certain mysterious gaps to fill in, but this one, not so much.
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We don't know if there were other people on that base, potential survivors who head out in the other direction with snowmobiles or whatever, while the two crazy Swedes went after the dog. So there is still a possibility of survivors, or at least uncertainty as to their fates.
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The problem with prequels is that they're reductionist by nature. When prople go to a "part 2" of anything, they want to see the story, themes, characters expanded not simplified. Why would I want to see a proto version of a larger story I already know?
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"...they have such respect for the original film that they're not trying to do a remake, they're just trying to pay homage to the original and also do the right thing..."
We've heard this song-and-dance SO many times before that it has become meaningless.
Boys, enough with the pre-production spin about "respect" and "homage" etc, etc...
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What you call "the original...from the 80s" was a remake. However I agree with your sentiment if not with your facts. Seems like there's been a lot of good NEW material written in the last 20-30 years that would lend themselves to a movie script.
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Prequels! Because who needs suspense?
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Still playing high school kids from Fired Up. Also it should be noted he stared in another uneeded Prequel: Dumb and Dumberer...that's not looking good for this.
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Afraid to read?
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I see now looking back at previous posts on here for the first time that I wasn't the only one thinking it, that's good.
I love The Thing, I'd be open to the idea of a sequel, but a prequel to that story is like building a big bonfire out of a portion of the studio's money and asking the public to line up to throw their own money in there too. -
I agree. If I was a studio exec, I would just walk down to the local bookstore and start reading the back covers of all the sci-fi and fantasy novels. Within a month you would have enough viable properties to last the studio the next 50 years.
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I don't like hating on things I haven't seen but...I cannot in all honesty envisage this being any good. I'll see it and give it a fair shake but...I just don't see any need for it. I'm not trying to be negative, or trying to start a flame war but this, to me, has bad news written all over it. Btw, caught The Carpenter Thing on the big screen in November. It was awesome.
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..Kenneth Tobey, a key player in so many 50's (blame it on the atomic bomb/radiation/cold war terror sub-text) sci-fi; TTFAW, The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms, and It came from beneath the Sea, and then we have Kurt Russell a John Carpenter stalwart, and a bona-fida screen icon. Which begs the question who the fuck is going to fill the boots of either of these guys in this prequel? TTFAW, and The Thing mean so much to so many people, they better not fuck this up!
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Apr 06, 2010 12:21:29 PM CDT
I wondered how star wars episode 3 would end........
by thedannerdaliel
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So they don't have to subtitle it.
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Apr 06, 2010 12:32:11 PM CDT
If it's PG-13, I may have to hire a hitman to shoot someone.
by v'shael
I'm just saying.
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Need to do a cameo in there somewhere
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They'd be lucky to find todays' equivalent of John Agar.
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Yep, good call.
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Why?
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... most of the Norweigians would probably be too drunk to even notice, or care if the did notice. Norway takes the art of alcoholism and makes it a way of life!
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I want to know how an alien attacking a Norwegian base will result in the gnarly killing of a bunch of Swedes. As for subtitles, Hunt for Red October handled the Russian beautifully - a few subtitled phrases in Russian, then a segue to unaccented English at the right moment. No one even notices.
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They're Norwegians, Mac!
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See John Carpenter's "The Thing" and you'll understand.
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If you're a fan of the Carpenter movie, then you owe it to yourself to give this a read. It's not canon but it IS very cool. http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts_01_10/
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why not take things to the next level and have the Thing take over a city or something?
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Why the fuck didn't they just adapt that? Jesus. I bet they call this: "The Thing: Who Goes There?" or just "The Thing Who Goes There".
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Oh, yeah. Now I remember.
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Apr 06, 2010 1:32:47 PM CDT
When the dog runs off and the two guys get in the chopper
by johnnyangel
head for the exits and beat the rush.
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"Being a prequel you'll see a lot of tie-ins as to how the base comes to be the way it is in the Carpenter film,"
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That's not a plot, hollywood asshole.
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gotta film it in their native language
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Of all the remakes/prequels/sequels/reimaginings this is the one i truly have hatred for. It's pretty much a perfect movie. Doesn't need anything else. And yes...I KNOW it's a remake. But honestly, the Hawks one isn't that good. It looks like every movie from my childhood and teens is going to be remade in 3D for teenagers too dumb to watch anything made before 1990. Is it any wonder people hate movies now. I used to go anywhere from 1-3 times a week. Now it's all I can do to trudge my ass to the theatre. The Thing is a movie that has only grown in stature over the years. This will put a serious damper on it.
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I remember seeing the video of the Thing as a kid with the cover of the guy in the coat with the glowing light where his face should be and going "whoa, what the fuck is THIS about?"
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£8.00...fecking quid.
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Apr 06, 2010 1:53:32 PM CDT
I_am_Torgo I have now have that music stuck in my head
by the_crimson_king
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theyre just for the money. besides, whats the point of this shit if you know how its end???
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If the producers were able to get Rob Bottin back for this. If you look at his recent filmography, it is definitely a worthy project (hello - Mr. Deeds?). Absent that, at least some sort of commitment to practical effects and not cartoony, half-assed CGI crap.
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Assuming the prequel will end with the helicoptor chasing the dog? This could happen at the 1/3 to 1/2 way point, whilst the majority of the base is emergency airlifted by Sikorsky to the larger Russion base to the East...fun, paranoia and Cold-War shennanigans ensue...
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Is that even as respectful as it wants to be, there can be no other reason for doing it than to try and one-up the previous effects team.We all know how it happens - and what happens, as it pretty much all happened in Carpenter's. The only difference is how the alien is delivered. Carpenter's is the dog, and the prequel comes straight from the source. I suppose we can look forward to some neat alien form in the ice à la Alien 1, but beyond that it can't really be anything more than an infection working its way through a bunch of (rightfully) paranoid researchers that get picked off one at a time while accusing each other of being The Thing. We're not really presented with anything new here. Of course we could have someone/thing walking back to civilization/going for "help", but that's just a distraction. At its heart it's the same movie and a needless origins flick.
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I know The Thing is Great. I watched it a month ago. However, this seems like a great premise. If you think about it, if done right, the prequel can stand on its own. The teeny boppers don't have to know shit about The Thing to enjoy this prequel. And to the people familiar with The Thing can find out the history of the alien and the Swedish camp. I'd wait until the trailer, then fire away if it looks like shit.
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Like a previous poster said a team of survivors could split up to go after the remaining "things". Two Norwegian guys go in a helicopter to chase the dog-thing. One Norwegian guy and one American girl go after the penguin-thing! Think about it. Tons of possibilities. You could show the helicopter go after the dog anytime in the movie leaving the rest to go after the Thing we haven't seen yet. Personally I wish they just made a straight up sequel but I am excited for the prequel. Better than nothing.
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The dog is just one of many at the point its escapes. Two of the crazed men, in a panic, chase after it. Leaving the rest of the survivors behind. After the base goes up in flames theres only three survivors left. They attempt to escape on a snow crawler. Neither of them trust each other. it ends as they approach a huge ice breaker stationed of the coast. The ship is deserted when the now two survivors reach it......I wont spoil it anymore.
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I am just pointing out that, as much as I love The Thing, I think there's room for another story at that base. I just hope they do it the justice it deserves.
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Apr 06, 2010 3:00:09 PM CDT
So The Norwegian Guys Who Tries To Shhot The Dog At The Beginnin
by pitchperfect
So is this guy still alive? Are they going to try and find someone who looks a lot like him so that it matches up with the original film? Or are they being so respectful that they forgot about that little detait?
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That is all.
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that there SHOULDN'T be another Thing movie. I'm all for more Thing. Just not made by someone who thought "Hey that movie was cool! But I don't understand what happened at that other base! Why is everything burnt? Let's make a movie about that!" We don't NEED to see what happened there. We can pretty much sum it up by what we see and what happens to the American base. Get John Carpenter and Kurt Russell on board, and continue from there. And Mary Elizabeth Winstead is hot and all, but she's a "Scream Queen", which to me doesn't scream 'Serious Film-making', instead it reeks of Final Destination-level popcorn 'horror'. Seriously, imagine her in the original. See it? Exactly.
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You know, back when Ben was playing football in college and he and Reed were roommates until one night, when Victor Von Doom blows his own face off and...
What, wrong Thing?
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So it'll look like shit. The premise of this whole idea is fucking retarded. Bringing a vag into the story is a bad fucking move, yet alone one that speaks English based at a Norg camp JUST so the American audience doesn't have to read subtitles for every syllable spoken.
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Sure, fans of the Carpenter film don't need to know what happened at the Norwegian base, but the millions and millions of filmgoers who've never sen it--it'll be new to them. As for myself? I'd rather see a prequel that at least makes it possible to hope for a Thing movie to provide me with fresh characters and ideas than, say, Gerard Butler as Macready 2.0.
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woops. a disadvantage of prequels: we know what's gonna happen.
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Apr 06, 2010 3:32:47 PM CDT
PITCHPERFECT: the helicopter pilot from the thing (1982)
by thedannerdaliel
is the american pilot played by Joel Edgerton in the prequel. dies a pretty idiotic way. Glad he wasn`t Norwegian:) anyhu: Norwegian actors in the film :Dennis Storhøi,Trond Espen Seim,Jørgen Langhelle,Jan Gunnar Røise,Stig Henrik Hoff ,Kristofer Hivju,and Jo Adrian Haavind. The last one there is not an actor. i know hes an artist or something. but Norway is well represented. Of all of them I would guess Trond Seim would be the guy at the beginning of Carpenters film....
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with the gross-out effects. The spider-head and stomach-mouth were as laughable then as they are now (though the mangled corpses and dog thing were well done). Best parts of the movie are the character interactions, and the most suspenseful are those without the effects. I love the scene where Wilford Brimley talks about hearing "funny things" while confined. Cool movie, but not untouchable. I like the idea of revisiting this material. And whoever said the Hawks version wasn't that good needs to watch it again.
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Irony intended.
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People probably don't do 'too whatnot' jokes anymore, but I am old and don't care so fuck it.Anyway, glad to know we get to learn how the base got that way. Always wondered about that. Every time I watch The Thing I never enjoy its awesome awesomeness, I always think to myself: "Self, how come the base got that way?" Well, now we are getting a whole film to explain it! Good work, Hollywood types.Some or all of this post may be sarcastic.
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"What you call "the original...from the 80s" was a remake."
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His "remake" of THE RING is up there with Carpenter's "remake" of THE THING. Carpenter's lost his mojo, I think -- or maybe just got old; but ol' Gore V. may still have what it takes -- or maybe just has some left of whatever the hell he was smoking when he somehow, inexplicably, incredibly, managed to spin one pretty awesome film out of an obsolete, politically incorrect theme park ride. He's not exactly batting a thousand, but when he sets out to film a gratuitous, derivative property, he's two for four. Everyone else currently alive is zero for a million ... so I really, really wish he were directing this one. That is all.
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Apr 06, 2010 3:58:54 PM CDT
Gentlemen, if you don't mind, i'd like not to spend the rest of
by asimovlives
TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!!!
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...I hadn't read the original novella. Anyway, say where the reissued book contains a screen treatment from 1978. Has anyone read this?
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Beware of an armed Wilford Brimley.
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I can see it now.
KID: "Sir, have you seen The Thing?"
ME: "Yeah! It's only like, one of the most bitching-rad movies ever! I love the part where the head comes off the body and Macready's all like "Torch it!""
KID: "What? No, I mean the one where the girl screams a lot."
Cue a depressed, disappointed look on my face, followed by disgust and then...
ME: "Detention."
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Everybody knows it.
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I gave one student detention once for saying Aliens vs Predator 2 was better than Aliens.
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You stupid motherfuckers. You claim how much you love and respect Carpenter's version. The US camp was suppose to be the first contact with Americans. Not some stupid bitch with a degree and some other fuck with her.
Do I have the story right that 2 or more Americans are coming to the Norg camp to investigate the discovery, then things go bonkers? So where did the Americans come from, McMurdo? "We're a 1000 miles from nowhere man." "Well, keep trying Windows!"
This makes no fucking sense at all and destroys the mystery of it. A true prequel would be all Norg with American subtitles. The end would just show a helicopter shooting at a dog. Fuck, save some money and just use some of cunt Palin's stock footage of the Alaskan aerial wolf hunt. That'll work.
One of the best elements of The Thing is the mystery that preceded it. That no outsiders are suppose to know about it, except the crazy Swedes. This sounds like a winner.
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ETA BOY!!!! You do your profession justice. Good job.
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We'll wait and see.
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No problem.
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Any motherfucker who dares speak ill of that movie will get visited a big wrath from me that will make my detesting of JJ Abrams's FRAUD TREK look mild by comparison.
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i know this may come as a blow to a lot of you, but kids these days really know NOTHING about movies. whenever i mention "aliens" to any school-age kid, they all instantly start talking up the aliens vs. predator flicks. the original masterpieces have already been relegated to the "it's old so i don't give a fuck" category. so heartbreaking. i'm sure they feel the same way about rob zombie's halloween in comparison with the original. it's a goddamned shame. hopefully that kid you gave detention to ended up watching the cameron film in the end... that's the type of flick a child's dreams are based on.
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Yeah, thanks a bunch
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cause you know how its gonna end.
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... always cracks me up. It's one of the funniest thing i ever seen in a movie, and it's from an otherwise very tense and darkly movie. Talk about the perfect comedy release timing.
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The unease and menace that emerges in The Thing has entirely to do with not knowing what happened before, and letting your imagination chew on that as things unfold. To explain it all in detail is basically just rehashing the same story, minus the foreboding of the previous crew's fate.In other words: it is an inferior and unnecessary dramatic approach.
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I always thought that would be a cool concept. "I came to do two things - kick ass and chew bubble gum...."
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It's absolutely true! Most of them have never seen Alien, Aliens or hell, even Alien Resurrection (not that you can really begrudge them THAT one). Terminator Salvation is the first one in the series..."Who's Darth Vader?"...They aren't aware that there is an original Dawn of the Dead...I mean come on! Okay, so I don't expect them to know things like Evil Dead 2, but Terminator 2 is one of THE most famous movies ever made! How do you NOT grow up and at least hear about it? I blame the parents. Oh, and Hollywood's current trend of remaking EVERYTHING for this generation who have a collective memory and attention span that can be measured (metaphorically) with a microscope. It's all I can do to tune them into fucking cool movies, but with High School Musical and Twilight out there being shoved into their narrow fields of view, it's bloody hard.
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It's a studio generated prequel, dont believe the hype, the filmmakers have no respect for the original. They all say the same thing, "we have such respect for the original", then you get a cinematic abortion like the upcoming Nightmare On Elm Street. These people just tell everyone what they wanna hear before they castrate any dignity the original had.
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is that all these garbage remakes provide a sort-of roadmap of genre cinema for these kids... the majority will never care enough to see the originals, but those precious few who have a genuine love for cinema might just end up seeing all the older classics and recognizing their superiority. cheers for your work as a teacher, steve. sounds like you're one of the good ones!
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I agree, and yet I disagree there. Studio-generated sequel = bad. The studio basically says "That one movie that people talk about...let's make another one. Hire a director and then we'll next talk about it when it comes out." But with Nightmare...I have to concede that I haven't kept up to speed on the development of the new nightmare...I know the old movies but am not very knowledgable so take this from someone who concedes that he is not as in-the-know as others but...I don't hate the idea. To me, at least, Freddy should be threatening, and just about the scariest motherfucker imaginable...not some cartoon character who jumps around like a Looney Tune behind a deaf guy's back. Of course again I am voicing my own opinion and feel free to disagree, but Freddy isn't scary anymore and I am all for a scary Freddy Krueger. Shame Englund isn't back but I'm gonna give it a go.
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To the makers of this DOA project. A sequel would of been a much better idea.
Mac and Childs retreat to Mac's shack that didn't burn. They hunker down and a rescue team arrives from McMurdo, received from Windows. Mean while Blair heads out into the storm. Many months later Blair is spotted by an ice breaker near the coast. The crew of the big ship realizes that they are doomed because Blair isn't the real Blair because after coming in from the cold he didn't eat the hot oatmeal they gave him.
Just a thought for a sequel.
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the size of texas...because of a simple line from Windows in Carpenter's version: "Look, I haven't been able to reach shit in two weeks! I doubt anybody has talked to anybody on this entire continent!" Yet in the Norwegian camp they bring in an American scientist which happens just prior to everyone being assimilated and killed??? How were they able to communicate with the outside to bring her in if communications have been down for weeks?
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Apr 06, 2010 5:29:48 PM CDT
Zemeckis...most dissapointing filmmaker of the past 25 years
by colt19801980
The guy's gradual descent into self parody and technical blowhard territory has reached epic proportions...just sad. I can't even FAKE trying to be excited to see one of his movies anymore.
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wrong thread
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That's why I said "We are a 1000 miles from nowhere." And the writers act like they care about the story.
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There are WRITERS?! And there I was thinking they were making it up as they went along? No? Sure as shit sounds like it.
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BTW, Doom never blew his face off, he just got a bad scratch. Bad enough to scar it, ruining his perfection. That's why he took to wearing the mask, to hide his imperfection. How did I know this? Jack Kirby told me. (and a room full of other people)
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Apr 06, 2010 6:03:03 PM CDT
as long as it's not about a bunch of 25 year old "teenagers" I'm
by bishopfan85
The thing is such a great concept for a mystery/thriller/horror film and I knew in our reboot world it was just a matter of time before the material was revisited so I'm glad to know they're going any route other than bringing the creature to modern times at some teenage spring break beach house or something equally contrived. Don't know if they'll get the tone right but I'm willing to wait for a finished product before assuming the worse.
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I hate Hollywood.
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Last U.S film I remember him in was King Arthur.
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Isn't that the truth?
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STUDIO: We'll hire you to write/direct this film!
US: Great! I'll do it!
STUDIO: But it's a prequel and takes place at the first cam.
US: Great! I'll do it!
You know you would.
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If its NOT gory then it can simply piss off !
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Then why does the film feature a hot 20-something as a scientist? Or being made by them at all?Jury's out until we see a trailer. And still out until we see a rating.
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The whole purpose of Mac and Blair going to the Norweigan camp in the '82 film was to foreshadow what was going to happen in their own camp later on. There is absolutely no point in making an entire film based on what happened there. This is just going to be a remake disguised as a prequel.
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As so many others have said...
NEWSFLASH!!! We know what happens!
Sooo...What is the point of a prequel of a remake sans JC?
Is this supposed to be an exercise in technological advancements in gore tech and production porn?
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AND PREQUELS....."they have such respect for the original film that they're not trying to do a remake, they're just trying to pay homage to the original " I feel like I'm reading this a lot these days with so many unoriginal films coming out. It's mandatory now to say this.
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LOL!!!! That is funny...
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Okay, I’m going to try to get a few things straight here:
1. Every generation has its favourites, and is bias because of it. Of course most of the tweenagers haven't seen Alien. Or the original Dawn of the Dead. Or the Thing for that matter. Get used to it whether these kids (this even applies to a lot of Gen Yers) deserve respect or not. Remember when our parents mentioned their favourite films to you and you didn’t respect them? Now you know what it felt like. We’re meant to appreciate a wider variety of film the older we get… hopefully that’s the case.
2. John Carpenter's The Thing is one of the best horror films ever made, if not the best in my opinion, and part of that is due to the nightmare factor for me when I was ten. (Only two horror films gave me nightmares back then: Evil Dead for two nights, The Thing for three months, because my mind would play with the trust issue of who in my life was or wasn’t the Thing). So, obviously I have tremendous respect for Carpenter’s version of Campbell’s short story, and tend to try to watch The Thing once a year with at least one person who hasn’t seen it.
3. One of the many aspects that made the film great was not much CG and lots of condom-snapping, liquid squirting, tube squeezing, hands-on (he he very rude!) special effects. This is precisely because the Thing is a very messy life form. Will the prequel pay attention to this, or just use CG? Because if the filmmakers just use CG and it looks even vaguely fake, then they’ve failed. Over 25 years later and they don’t get the effects right? No excuse.
4. Another reason the film works so well is it’s complete avoidance of sexual tension. No females means no hero saving the girl. No chick to develop a crush on. No gay relationships either. What we have are blokes dealing with immeasurable stress in bloke ways. Adds to the clarity of where each character is coming from. So now we have a female in the prequel. Just one? Better make her butch, or uninterested in men, or have NO lines that suggest the other researchers think she’s hot. Otherwise, the film just becomes like a hundred others out there. Oh, and who says she can’t be the helicopter pilot at the start of The Thing? We never see the pilot’s face…
5. The end of The Thing is perfect.
Does everyone die? Probably.
Does it make sense? Absolutely.
Is one of them the Thing? Possibly.
Can the prequel end just as well?...
6. In the current film-making climate, if there’s a perceived profit in a franchise, there will be another sequel/prequel/remake. Whether we like it or not. Does Alien vs Predator fuck up the appeal of Alien? No. Those that can understand each is a separate film and appreciate that aspect can choose to ignore/destroy/enjoy one or the other with a certain degree of integrity.
7. This prequel will not live up to our standards, let’s face it- but it might get a lot of things right. It had better be subtitled, it had better establish the threat very early in the picture (or we have the whole “re-telling of the origin” again which is a waste of time) and there had better be some smart surprises in the script. Someone above mentioned that there may be other survivors and that the two in the chopper may head off to exterminate the Thing that is trying to reach McMurdo halfway through the film- brilliant! So then we DON’T know how the prequel will end…
8. I have faith in this project until I’ve seen the whole film- then I’ll make my judgement on it. Come on guys- isn’t the thought that MAYBE this could work exciting enough?
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By having the Norwegian team intentionally disrupt communication or something like that. Or maybe they could find out about the other team, get all greedy about the discovery, not wanting others to find it, and that be the basis of their unraveling. I agree this can do nothing for the source material, the Thing is amazing and I really hope it doesn't add anything to that 'canon'. But it is a cool story and could serve as a pallet. But it could also suck so terribly hard. I'm just so used to disappointment from reboot fatigue I really don't even care either way.
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Short story by Peter Watts
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more like a retelling of the story from the things perspective
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perspectives
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laziest form of story telling there is
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Read the whole original story here for FREE:
http://tinyurl.com/yc589fw
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I LMAO when I read your comment. I used to use that as one of the best tag lines from the thing. Wilford sounded all cowboy when he said that. "I'll kill yew..."
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...so John Carpenter, you know, the brilliant Director, went on the record saying he and Jack Burton had some great ideas for a sequel, so what do the men-in-penguin-suits do? They hire some dipshit to make a f##king pointless prequel. Hollywood, you aren't the fastest learners are you? It doesn't take a genius to figure out which film the fans would want to see. Let's see: a bullshit prequel about the crap that just acted as a set-up for the original story, or a proper sequel made by the original director and star... Sure, he made 'Ghost of Mars', but so what? He could still take a dump that's more interesting that 99& of all these pointless re-makes/prequels/whateverthef##k you want to call these things... ugh.
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I always sort of liked how the Carpenter Thing was sort of set up like a pseudo sequel to the 51 version. It even remade the scene where all the people were standing around the spaceship in the ice with their hands out before they exploded it with thermite. Doing this seems to cheapen that a bit. Just a little. Maybe it'll be real good though.
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Anyone? I say Short Circuit, Coming To America, Gremlins, Explorers, Jaws, Weird Science, Breakfast Club
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Apr 07, 2010 12:00:11 AM CDT
If they love the 1982 version so much they have to think this th
by pitchperfect
Used the ole IMDB and according to that... The Thing (1982) Larry Franco played the Norwegian passenger with the rifle. He only has two acting credits and then moved into a producing career in movies. So are they going to get him back to tie the films together? He doesn't look like he did all those years ago so I suppose they'll find an actor that either looks like him or not. Still if they want the films to blend together it's an important factor to consider even if Franco's time in the orginal was brief.
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Is that it's part of the thing franchise and not a remake.
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"The 80's 'original' was a classic! IT DUSN NEED NO REMAEK"
The 80's "original" WAS a fucking remake.
lol.
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I just got done watching "The Thing" and I couldn't believe how good it looks on blu-ray. Crisp and shockingly clean. This is what ALL 30 year old movies should look like in HD, not like an old festival print. $9.99 at Best Buy. It's so worth it.
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Apr 07, 2010 2:39:53 AM CDT
This documentary provides some interesting insights into Carpent
by kaitain
http://tinyurl.com/ydvrmdb
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http://tinyurl.com/5cstu5
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In Toronto? Really Joel? The pretty PhD student sums up how this "prequel" is NOT paying homage to the originals.
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....instead of a prequel, if this thing has to go ahead at all.And I agree with whoever said that this is STILL basically a REMAKE, seeing as it's being set at another 'Antarctic'-based Camp....While this is unlikely to have anywhere near the creep-factor and imaginative SFX that the first one did....there's a far more obvious factor that could ensure this is an epic fail...Because as well as some of the potential pitfalls already mentioned, they've limited themselves by making this a PREQUEL....because to properly match up with Carpenter's original, it should really need to have the early 80's sensibilities, fashions, music, and speech that was evident in the original!If I hear any stylised dialogue that seems to come from this era, or see something that appeared after '82 onscreen, then these bastards deserve a 'chess wizard' shoved up each of their asses. Get that era's production design (and background radio music, if any) correct, and at least it won't seem such a travesty.At least with a SEQUEL, they had a multitude of possibilities open to them....idiots.
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Calling a Norwegian a swede is like calling a jew a muslim (or vice versa).
Congratulations, you have just pissed of an entire country.
By the way, they've cast some really good Norwegian actors for this one. Trond Espen Seim, dare call him a swede and he'll kick your arse with his mighty Viking boot.
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Apr 07, 2010 7:24:14 AM CDT
Seven Norwegians signed to be in it......here they are..again...
by thedannerdaliel
Dennis Storhøi,Trond Espen Seim,Jørgen Langhelle,Jan Gunnar Røise,Stig Henrik Hoff ,Kristofer Hivju,and Jo Adrian Haavind.
As for the HUGE plothole mentioned. Just cause the yanks couldn`t reach anybody isn`t a plot hole. They migth have been able too contact the Norwegian camp.....If the Thing hadn´t already done it´s thing:) hahahaha
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Nero comes back and alters the time-line so the stuff in Carpenter's movie doesn't happen. That leaves all kinds of possibilities and adventures to happen....... sigh
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I know you will say it is your duty to give movie news and what not, but if Harry can refuse to watch movies he knows he won't like, then you can stop giving these movies the spotlight. Respect is earned not given, so once one of these movies fulfills what it promises, stop saying "there might be hope". Dawn of the Dead remake is a good example, it was better than most people thought it would be, say what you will about Snyder, at least you know he is trying to deliver. So, you should give that guy coverage, he has earned it.
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*pours bourbon in computer and ALL OVER THIS FUCKING USELESS BULLSHIT DICK LICKING PREQUEL.
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....that they'd leave some kind of fun sense of mystery to how the titular Thing made it from point A to point B. MUCH better to have someone spell it out rather than leave that to our imaginations. It would CERTAINLY live up to EVERYONE'S expectations. Not.
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Norwegians are renowned for their highly ornate and personalized codpieces
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THAT THING WANTS TO BE UUUUSSSSSS!
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... is making me ache to rewatch it. How i love that movie!
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Apr 07, 2010 12:59:10 PM CDT
No Macready, Childs, Nauls, Fuchs, Blair, Clark?
by sam_jay_jick_donutly_dildoclip
Fuck this!
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He must have taken the writing gig for the cash because there is no way he could have initially thought this film was necessary or even a good/cool idea.And what really irks me is that this project (along with the development of CAPRICA) probably took some of his valuable time and oversight away from the final season of BSG. (There is little doubt that Espenson's increased involvement brought about a decline in BSG's later narrative.)You're better than this, Ron! One project at a time.
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I dont fucking care if this movie is going to become the next Citizen Kane.The Thing is a masterpiece,a stand alone masterpiece,it does not need prequels,sequels or remakes,it IS the Citizane Kane of the Scifi Horror genre.i dont want your fucking prequel,i dont want to hear anything about it,i just want to stop fucking with one of the holiest masterpiece of the art of cinema.FUCK OFF.
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Because you know there is this mysterious gap to fill,about how the Thing absorbed all these weird alien morphs we see in Carpenter's movie and in its prequel,and how eventually it arrived and crash landed on Earth.yeah we got to fill all those pesky unexplained details.
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The Blob
The fight it out to see who is the King of the Bio-mass -
Apr 07, 2010 4:30:14 PM CDT
I'm certain Ron D. Moore's original script has been heavily re-w
by asimovlives
... as per usual with Hollywood studio filmmaking.
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Apr 07, 2010 4:33:24 PM CDT
Who the fuck cares about what happeend in the norwegian base?
by asimovlives
We already know what happened. It's told in the Carpenter's movie. What else needs to be said about it? I don't usually agree with the majority of the AIXCN people her,e but on this i have to join my voice to the majority. This prequel is as needed as a bullet in the head. Screw this. Forget it, i'm watching the Carpenter movie instead.
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..Ikea buried in the snow
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Titanic, The Wizard of Oz, The Hobbit, The Fly, King Kong, Back to the Future, Apollo 13, The Day the Earth Stood Still, Die Hard, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Robocop, Saving Private Ryan, The Shining,...then.
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the carpenter version is great, the orginal 50's version is great...who the fuck needs this??
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so for all I care the film could be about how turds are made and I'd still watch it...twice..
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from the Carpenter film. Gratuitous cameos by Tony Curtis, John Saxon and Dave Carradine (oops). A contest will be pitched for the DVD premiere ("What's your favorite thing?"). Somehow turns a handsome profit...
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They kicked Carpenter's ass off the parking lot and subsequently referred to THE THING--after its disappointing boxoffice--as "porn"!
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you they meant "The Thing" or was it just a conversation overheard in vague Hollywood speak from some Jewish producer/agent as in "..so we gonna make a prequel to the thing that had that guy back, you know a few years ago. You know it was a classic"
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