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Harry's DVD Picks & Peeks: 1st wk of April 2010: Bakshi & Jackson's LOTR, Herzog's Bad Lt, Hammer Suspense, Penelope Ann Miller

Published at: April 6, 2010, 12:24 a.m. CST

Hey folks, Harry here with our first April 2010 column! And look, you can tell it is going to be a wonderful April due to how early in the day I got the column up! Woo-hoo! As usual the pics and titles are linkable to Amazon – where if you purchase the item, a small portion of your cost goes to help support this column, which it seems many of you love. And those that queue this titles up, I’m glad to help guide ya through the terrain of releases. Enjoy the column… Tuesday, April 6th, 2010



THE LORD OF THE RINGS (1978 Animated Movie) Blu Ray
I love Bakshi’s LORD OF THE RINGS unabashedly! The voices, the score and especially the animation – it just does it for me. I know that those of you that have come to the second holy trilogy first – that you can’t stand how much was cut from Tolkein’s classic tale – but for me. It was in 1978 at a Drive-In theater that my love affair with Tolkein began. Now – if only Rankin Bass will release a Blu-Ray of THE HOBBIT and RETURN OF THE KING. Now – as a fan of BAKSHI’s LORD OF THE RINGS – and as a retardedly in love with Peter Jackson’s LORD OF THE RINGS… I do have to say I am happier with the Bakshi release on Blu Ray. WHAT? HOW DARE I? Calm down bitches, the reality is simple - I’ve never seen Bakshi’s film look as good as this. It sounds amazing! And the making of documentary covers not just LORD OF THE RINGS, but Bakshi’s career to that point… and it is really good! If only it had Bakshi onstage at the Alamo cussing at Lars. Sigh, such sweet memories!




THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE MOTION PICTURE TRILOGY (Theatrical Editions) (Blu-Ray)
You know. I’d fork over $200-$300 for some ludicrously correct Criterion Release with a Weta sculpted something – that had the Theatrical releases, the Expanded Editions, and shit tons of behind the scenes. But this cheapie release (if you can call $60, cheap) is just wholly unsatisfying. It did give me an excuse to rewatch the Theatrical Trilogy – something that I didn’t think I’d do again – as I really and truly feel the Expanded Editions are vastly superior films. Now – the image quality is perfect, the sound is awesome – and I have watched these theatrical versions 3 times already (but that’s cuz I’m a huge honking RINGS geek) and if I wasn’t sent this release in advance… well… I still would have picked it up – just so I could see ‘most’ of THE LORD OF THE RINGS in Blu Ray quality. But I do have the disposable income to willfully be raped by Time Warner for a product that is in no way completely satisfying. But right now – I can’t tell you when and if the Expanded Editions will hit on Blu. I’ve made some inquiries to see if I can get you a decent guestimate… I wrote Peter about this and the response I got basically said that the NEW LINE DVD team that he had a fabulous relationship is no longer the team handling the title. Instead TIME WARNER’s huge team is and he is not included in any of the decision making processes with the title. And if that scares the shit out of you, it scares the shit out of me. WARNERS – you had better get your shit together and get REAL FRIENDLY with the fans. You’re going to be counting on them very soon – and this release is no way to kick start that.




BAD LIETENANT: PORT OF CALL NEW ORLEANS
Within this rather ugly Blu Ray box is pure fucking magic – compliments of the bugnut insanity that was the magical alchemy of 1 part Nicolas Cage and 1 part Werner Herzog! In a far cooler world than the one we live in – there’s an alternative Academy Awards show that nominated Tom Hardy for BRONSON, Sam Rockwell for MOON and Nicolas Cage for BAD LIEUTENANT: PORT OF CALL NEW ORLEANS for best actor. Now The Dude still probably would have won for the sheer awesome that giving Bridges an Oscar was, but at least the category would have been AWESOME – and we could argue for years about where it should have gone. Not only is Cage great – but every actor in this is awesome. In particular – Fairuza Balk has a small role as a Highway Patrol type – and holy shit – I haven’t had the hots for Fairuza ever, but Fairuza in a Police uniform… crazy fucking hot! I always loved the original, but in terms of awesome – Herzog and Cage own the original!




THE NATURAL (Director’s Cut) Blu Ray
Dammit! I miss this Barry Levinson. Remember that period – when Barry Levinson was one our great filmmakers… DINER, THE NATURAL, YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES, GOOD MORNING VIETNAM, RAIN MAN, BUGSY…. Then there was TOYS, JIMMY HOLLYWOOD, SPHERE and other films that just didn’t equal the first half of that career. Now he seems to live on Television – and I’m awaiting one of the great “Nostalgia” directors. And I say that with love. Barry could capture a period and a time like very few other directors. His immaculate eye for detail was amazing. And with THE NATURAL – he knocked it up into the lights. This is one of those titles you get because it is some of Caleb Deschanel’s mostly lovingly beautiful work… because Randy Newman’s score will get inside your heart and make you skip a few beats. You get it because our nation’s great pastime will never ever look as good as this again – and at 1080p – it is stunning! It is a crime that this longer, more textured and dramatically satisfying version is not seeing a Theatrical release. But studios still seem to not know they can get people into theaters for this sort of work – and with Digital projection – it is easy. Would love to see this with an audience.




THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR (Blu Ray)
I remember when this came out, nobody was looking forward to the film. McQueen’s original is such a triumph, and not necessarily commercial film – very arty very wonderfully. So the fear was that McTiernan would action it up a ton – and while that is there – this may very well be McTiernan’s most adult film. Beautifully put together and a film that reminds me just how much I love Rene Russo. Nice transfer – and a helluva flick.




ICONS OF SUSPENSE: HAMMER FILMS ( STOP ME BEFORE I KILL!, CASH ON DEMAND, THE SNORKEL, MANIAC, NEVER TAKE CANDY FROM A STRANGER, THESE ARE THE DAMNED )
Now here’s a fucking treat! Now I know – these aren’t “THE HAMMER TITLES YOU KNOW!” Exactly my point! Take for example, STOP ME BEFORE I KILL! Directed by the awesome Val Guest in 1960. It is all about a vacationing couple – where the husband begins wanting to strangle his wife. Knowing this is a wrong thought he sees a local psychiatrist who decides he should follow the couple back – then one day, the Hubby’s wife goes missing. And he thinks he might have killed her. WONDERFUL film! But the next, CASH ON DEMAND is an even better suspense flick, starring Grand Moff Tarkin himself, circa 1961! Then you see a title like THE SNORKEL and you may believe it’s a filler. But what you get is a great little film from a story by Antonio Margheriti – featuring one of those amazing fucking jewels of a villain performance by Peter Van Eyck – who died way too early. You won’t know his name, but he’s one of those faces that you see in a ton of weird import titles from the 60s and a few big things like THE LONGEST DAY – but he really and truly shines here. You’ll be similarly happy with the remaining 3 titles. This is a fantastic set of great HAMMER suspense titles. Not the flashy Horror titles, but great nevertheless. A real treat for this week’s column!




THE RELIC (Blu Ray)
I love Penelope Ann Miller. The crush began in High School when I caught a glimpse of her on THE FACTS OF LIFE. She kept showing up in cool movies that year and the next. Around the time I headed to college, I had a crazy crush growing with her performances in DEAD BANG and THE FRESHMAN. But then – damn – with AWAKENINGS, KINDERGARTEN COP, YEAR OF THE COMET, CHAPLIN, CARLITO’S WAY, THE SHADOW, and this THE RELIC… well, she may not have made the best movies, but she fucking looked amazing in everything. I understand I may be in some manner of minority when I profess an undying admiration for the lovely Penelope Ann. That said – Penelope is lovely – we can all agree on that. And Tom Sizemore is an insane man. But THE RELIC is a fun little monster in a museum picture. The CG is a bit dodgy. Actually, quite a bit so. There’s a part of me that wishes that every 15 years or so – a studio would go back and spend the money to update the state of the art CG they used at the time. But once you realize the monster isn’t going to be for real scary – but more of a “Boo!” movie – with excellent direction, cinematography with rich shadows… well – that’s THE RELIC. I like it quite a bit.




COCOON (Blu Ray)
All in love with COCOON raise your hands? Remember that swimming pool scene with Steve and the alien chick? FUCKING LOVE THAT. Alien foreplay. Awesome. What I love is how this is a silly situational film that gets very real. I love when the story turns and it becomes all about Old people holding on to the vitality of life. It is emotional and quality work that is not dated in the least. COCOON is the best version of “KICK THE CAN” that is out there.




THE PROTECTOR (Blu Ray)
For those that think the Tony Jaa films are all about Tony Jaa with no other discernable talent of substance – I offer forth THE PROTECTOR. Prachya Pinkaew’s direction is amazing here. The sensibilities are very non-Western in terms of plot and story – but his conceptualization of some of the scenes in this movie are nothing short of miraculous. The famed multi-story continuous shot martial arts spectacular that begins the end sequence of this film is something that should be taught in every film school in the world. The stunt work, the tenacity of the actor and the elegance of the camera work – the advance lighting – it is just jaw-droppingly impressive. Truly amazing and gorgeous on Blu Ray!




POSEIDON (Blu Ray)
My initial rage filled review for this movie aside, rewatching this the other night proved to be far better than my initial viewing. If held next to the original POSEIDON ADVENTURE – Wolfgang Petersen’s effort seems to be a laborious bore. But if seen on its own terms, it’s just not entirely satisfying, but there’s good work to be seen. I still can’t believe how much they spent making a TV movie version of THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE. It seems small, even in 1080p.




JADE (Blu Ray)
Remember the glory days of NYPD BLUE – when David Caruso was being talked up as being the inheritor of the Al Pacino seedy awesome leading man award? Well, here you had a Joe Eszterhas excessively limp erotic script, a whole lot of actors that just didn’t snap with the material or each other – and a William Friedkin – that just didn’t seem to be firing on all cylinders. This was the ‘third’ strike, following THE GUARDIAN and BLUE CHIPS – which nearly felt like the end of Wild Bill’s run. Thankfully, he bounced back with RULES OF ENGAGEMENT, THE HUNTED and his best modern work, the absolutely sizzling BUG. But JADE is a riveting artistic failure at just about every level. Linda Fiorentino just wasn’t hot in this. Even the impossibly hot Angie Everhart doesn’t tingle the nethers. Yet, the second it arrived in my mail I put it in. It is a train wreck that I can’t help but watch in wild fascination. It really doesn’t work.




DREAMSCAPE (Blu Ray)
DREAMSCAPE is a wonderful Eighties oddity that I just dig the living shit out of. It is one of those films that had crazy stop-motion effects for a live-action integration… wild weird compositing… and a cool as hell premise. I love the idea of a government funded psychic experiment that was about hooking a psychic into another person’s dreams so that Dream Walker could assassinate you in your dreams, thus killing you. This came out in 1984… earlier in the year… in August. Then that November, we were introduced to Freddy Krueger in Wes Craven’s A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET – but DREAMSCAPE was first – and was frankly my favorite of the two. First off – the high brow talent of Eddie Albert, Christopher Plummer and Max von Sydow just kill their respective roles. Kate Capshaw was never so hot. George Wendt was awesome as the guy trying to uncover the Government conspiracy that Christopher Plummer was planning. And Dennis Quaid is note perfect as the rogue psychic that uses his psychic powers on a con game. BUT… The most fucking awesome of awesome in this awesome little movie is the creepiest little fuck in little fucker fucking with you cinema history… DAVID PATRICK KELLY’s Tommy Ray is EWWWWWWWWWW! His voice, his eyes, his rodenty looking face. Why this guy hasn’t played the scariest vampire ever is beyond me. But Tommy Ray is one of those great 80s super villains. I love Chuck Russell’s script. Maurice Jarre’s score. And Dream Quest’s special matte paintings. It is ambitious beyond the capabilities of the time, but I love the look they generated in a pre-Digital age – even if the plot really was something screaming for the effects of today.




THE ITALIAN STRAW HAT (Un Chapeau De Paille D’Italie)
All of Rene Clair that I knew prior to watching this awesome silent era Comedy – was his direction of a little fave flick of mine, I MARRIED A WITCH with Fredric March and Veronica Lake. And I love I MARRIED A WITCH. Well, I also knew his work from the forties Agatha Christie adaptation of AND THEN THERE WERE NONE… another film I loved. Rene Clair did not have a long Hollywood career – but I had heard amazing things about his work overseas… I just never had a chance to see some of it till now. THE ITALIAN STRAW HAT is no where near as good as the two other films of his that I know, but it is absolutely mesmerizing in that it kind of reminds me of a Jeunet film, but of another era. It is a bit stagey – but delightful all the same. For fans of silent films!dirt




DIRT! THE MOVIE
Remember when you were a kid and playing in the dirt was about as fun as it could ever get? Did you ever ponder how important dirt is? How far reaching the ramifications of good dirt and bad dirt could stretch? Me either. But this rather awesome documentary – narrated by the narrator of ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK – comes DIRT! THE MOVIE. They speak to Nobel Peace Prize winners and all sorts of experts in DIRT and how important it is. DIRT! Is one of those docs that does scare you a bit, but then pays off with a shitload of hope and reasonable options that we should all agree on. Isn’t it time you knew more about DIRT!?




BROTHERS FIVE (Blu Ray)
I haven’t seen this one, but it is my intention to have all Shaw Brothers films on BLU RAY so I may gleefully spend my life in the kung fu shenanigans they have produced! I know Sammo Hung is in it – and that the film reportedly is action packed with very long fight scenes that entertain. So that is pretty much all I need to know.




THE DELIGHTFUL FOREST (Blu Ray)
As a rule – anytime you see the name Chang Cheh as a director of a Shaw Brothers film – you should just automatically get it. I have yet to be let down – and THE DELIGHTFUL FOREST is no exception to that rule. I really like Ti Lung, and his character of convicted murderer, who makes a friend out of a prison guard, who then gets out to help get that Prison Guard’s restaurant back from the Thugs that took it. Well. You have a movie where your hero is a convicted murderer of his Sister In Law and a thug. Well that’s just fun! You’ll really dig this.




THE HEROIC ONES (Blu Ray)
Ah!!! Here’s a really good one! THE HEROIC ONES is not just directed by the great Chang Cheh, not only does it have the great Ti Lung – but my favorite Shaw Brothers actor, besides Gordon Liu, is David Chiang. He’s just so fucking charismatic. His eyes dance the way Han Solo’s and Indiana Jones’ did at their best. That Errol Flynn spark. You know what I mean? He has that. This is a great historical costume epic – and it has one of my fave Davd Chiang fights – between him and Bolo Yeung – which is incredibly unlikely – but deliciously so. What can I say, I love Shaw Brothers flicks.




TAXIDERMIA (Fantastic Fest Vet.)
TAXIDERMIA is best left undescribed. Instead – this is one of THE FANTASTIC FEST brilliant what-the-fucks in Fantastic Fest’s long long history. (LOL). Imagine meshing Jeunet, Cronenberg, Del Toro, Peter Jackson and Jörg Buttgereit. All at their most ‘whoa’ and you kind have an indication. But make no bones about it. You’re probably ill-prepared for this sort of entertainment. You know deep down you’re a pussy and you would run screaming about half way in. But that’s ok. You know your limitations. You chickenshitted out of MARTYRS – or you just got yourself offended. Then skip this. It isn’t for you. You’re either too mature or not nearly enough. Whatever your condition, I weep for you. Because you my friend will never, no matter your effort, see the brilliance of TAXIDERMIA.




THE DAM BUSTERS
It helped to inspire STAR WARS – Peter Jackson is producing a remake – and the film is absolutely beloved by millions who have seen it with that ‘family’ member. The one that was most dear and influential at a key point in their life. This is that type of movie. A crazy absurd notion tried because nothing else could possibly work – and it kinda fucking miraculously works. That is this film. It is seriously one of the great films of great films. This is merely the latest release. If you haven’t seen it – you really no longer have an excuse. Watch this awesome movie!
Next week we’ll be looking at the Blu Ray release of APOLLO 13, THE GREAT MOUSE DETECTIVE, NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET Blu Ray, PIRATE RADIO, DEFENDOR, GONE WITH THE WIND (Scarlett Edition) Blu Ray, THE SLAMMIN’ SALMON, Essential Art House: KAPO, THREE KINGDOMS: RESURRECTION OF THE DRAGON, ONE LAST DANCE, OH MY GOD, ST. HELENS, 8 ½, BRIEF ENCOUNTER, DAISY CHAIN, LOVES OF A BLONDE, JULES ET JIM, THE KOREAN and it looks like that’s it. BTW – are any of you folks that have that top Samsung model Blu Ray players – are any of you having trouble with Paramount’s titles that are being handled by Lionsgate? My player is giving me fits with those discs?

Readers Talkback

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  • April 6, 2010, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Holy Shit!

    by ViolentN8

    A DVD column up the day before the movies hit? No fucking way.

  • April 6, 2010, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Also...

    by ViolentN8

    Fist!

  • April 6, 2010, 12:51 a.m. CST

    Some good ones this week!

    by sonnyfern

    Dreamscape is CLASSIC. BAD LIEUTENANT is the SHIT and that Hammer collection is KILLER. I gotta get two jobs so I can start affording all this shit.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:23 a.m. CST

    LOTR Blu-Ray Transfer Quality

    by Ratcabbage

    Harry, you say the image quality is perfect, but Tested.com had a great article on why the Blu-Ray transfer of LOTR is not up to snuff. tinyurl.com/ydsfg7n

  • April 6, 2010, 1:29 a.m. CST

    Ratcabbage

    by HEADGEEK

    I'm sure they have a higher trained eye - measure the light intensity and have gizmos to specify their opinion. Me, I have just my eyes and my eyes tell me it looks damn perfect on my screen, upon multiple viewings.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:34 a.m. CST

    Highdefdigest said Fellowship's transfer is dodgy

    by MattmanReturns

    To quote Orlando Bloom from another film, "That's not good enough!"

  • April 6, 2010, 1:38 a.m. CST

    never heard of dreamscape...you sold me Harry

    by TheDark0Knight

    Im definitely gonna grab that today.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:39 a.m. CST

    WTF? Where is Five Deadly Venoms on Bluray???

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    That's the best Shaw Brothers film IMO.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:40 a.m. CST

    AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    by HEADGEEK

    Amen. Where indeed!:

  • April 6, 2010, 1:46 a.m. CST

    TheDark0Knight, Dreamscape is okay

    by MattmanReturns

    But as far as Dennis Quaid 80s movies, the best is Enemy Mine.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:51 a.m. CST

    I'd say The Natural is the best sports movie ever made...

    by beefywhore

    I could be wrong. But in my opinion there is no greater sports film...The sandlot comes in a distant 2nd.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:53 a.m. CST

    LOTR

    by VonThunderballs

    they need to make with the extended editions. i am not going to blow money on the theatrical cuts.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:55 a.m. CST

    You are DEAD ON BALLS accurate with your Dreamscape...

    by beefywhore

    review Harry...I totally prefer it to Nightmare any day of the week.

  • April 6, 2010, 2:01 a.m. CST

    Why does the Dreamscape art......

    by Pitdoc

    ....look like a Raiders ripoff?

  • April 6, 2010, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Sorry Harry...

    by Pitdoc

    but I was as expectant of LORD OF THE RINGS when it was coming out too, but when I saw it, I kept thinking.."What a piece of CRAP!!" HORRIBLE rotoscoping and the books fileted to make it good for the kiddies, but unrecognizable to fans of the novels. But at least, it didnt have anything like that execrable song, "The Greatest Adventure" that was in THE HOBBIT....

  • April 6, 2010, 2:17 a.m. CST

    Dirt? Is something threatening dirt?

    by JuanSanchez

    No, I won't see the movie to find out.

  • 3 times on theaters for each movie, around 5 times theatrical editions of each at home and then when the EEs came out over 10 times each, to be "retardedly in love" you need to pass the 10 times mark

  • April 6, 2010, 2:20 a.m. CST

    do not buy LOTR on blu now, wait for the Extended Editions

    by doa766

  • April 6, 2010, 2:27 a.m. CST

    Best Sports Movie Ever

    by Box_Bruceleitner

    is... Slap Shot.

  • April 6, 2010, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Several sites have already trashed LOTR transfer

    by TheLastCleric

    It's not up to current standards which is ridiculous considering how important this release is.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:04 a.m. CST

    PitDoc

    by HEADGEEK

    Oh what a miserable soul you must have to not feel your heart swell to the singing of "Greatest Adventure" - I have the Rankin Bass THE HOBBIT on 16mm. That's how much I love it!

  • April 6, 2010, 3:04 a.m. CST

    Best Sports Movie Ever

    by wampa_one

    ...is HOOSIERS. The Natural is a close second, though.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:07 a.m. CST

    Penelope Ann Miller is one of those mysteries

    by judderman

    for whom stardom seemed predestined, but never happened. She's absolutely stunning, reasonably talented and, for a time, showed good selection. In 1990-1991 she made a lot of great movies, covering a wide range of genres, then, suddenly, she's appearing in My Blue Heaven and The Relic. It's like Gabriele Anwar; you just have to wonder, what the hell happened?

  • April 6, 2010, 3:15 a.m. CST

    Say what you want about Poseidon, but...

    by RedEgiraahgnal

    ...Kurt Russel's should have won an Oscar just for his death scene in this one.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:18 a.m. CST

    Ignore the " 's" after "Kurt Russell".

    by RedEgiraahgnal

    I just woke up. Edit button?

  • April 6, 2010, 3:27 a.m. CST

    Dreamscape?

    by The Dreaded Rear Admiral

    I watched it at a dorm party in the 80's. Truly scared the $#!+ out of me. "How'd you get in here?" "It was easy"...then Dennis took Christopher Plummer apart! Great movie. Dare I say, perhaps a remake, or "refreshening" would be in order?

  • April 6, 2010, 3:40 a.m. CST

    Hoosiers, The Natural

    by Box_Bruceleitner

    Seriously, they don't even come close to Slap Shot, it's brilliance from start to finish.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:04 a.m. CST

    3 times Harry?

    by Bodacious_Crumb

    The Blu Rays or just the theatrical releases altogether in any form? I was just thinking that you would have no time to watch the BR's that many times. You're not Supergeek yet.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:08 a.m. CST

    That Dreamscape cover is weirdly like Indy.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • April 6, 2010, 4:43 a.m. CST

    Dreamscape was a great little flick

    by alan_poon

    And am I the only one who thinks Fairuza Balk is sexy as hell? You just look at her and can tell you'd have one helluva time between the sheets, ya know what I mean?

  • April 6, 2010, 4:49 a.m. CST

    All three films, three times already?

    by Righteous Brother

    that's a lot of time that could have bee spent at the gym big guy. I thought you were looking to lose a bit of weight?

  • April 6, 2010, 4:49 a.m. CST

    I think Fairuza is sexy too.....

    by Righteous Brother

    that jet black hair, those blue eyes and just a little bit scary.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:57 a.m. CST

    Bodacious_Crumb

    by HEADGEEK

    No, I've seen them 3 times now on Blu ray. Once with my wife, once with two separate other friends. All because they wanted to see them and I didn't mind rewatching them. They are really good movies. Ya know.

  • April 6, 2010, 5:32 a.m. CST

    Yes, some good ones this week

    by BumLove

  • April 6, 2010, 6:08 a.m. CST

    I always get Dreamscape mixed up with....

    by Righteous Brother

    Brainstorm - they'd make a perfect double bill.

  • April 6, 2010, 6:11 a.m. CST

    Question on some of the DVD's

    by Davidhessstation

    Is Dreamscape frammed correctly this time? The last DVD cut off the boobers in the one scene. And is the version of Jade the unrated version that hit some VHS tapes back in the mid 90's?

  • April 6, 2010, 6:16 a.m. CST

    The Natural

    by Shawn F.

    That "longer, more dramatically textured and satisfying version" on the blu-ray actually did see a theatrical release: back in 1984. The blu-ray is the 138 minute theatrical cut, not the recent director's cut.

  • April 6, 2010, 6:17 a.m. CST

    FUCK COCCOON

    by Windowlicker74

    and fuck 'Tarantino presents...' movies too.

  • April 6, 2010, 6:18 a.m. CST

    cocoon lol ben zat

    by Windowlicker74

  • April 6, 2010, 6:21 a.m. CST

    David Caruso

    by Steve T

    When I see CSI Miami it makes me want to cry as a lover of NYPD Blue and how good he was in the first season. If you listen hard you can hear his soul screaming as he goes through the motions.

  • April 6, 2010, 6:21 a.m. CST

    In total agreement on the AWESOMENESS of Bad Lt.

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    Nic Cage was amazing, Werner Herzog was amazing, everything was amazing about this movie. As I struggled to think of best movie of the year, Bad Lieutenant kept coming back to me. Totally fantastic movie.

  • April 6, 2010, 6:35 a.m. CST

    Greed. Unfettered corporate greed.

    by Miami Mofo

    Warner's, you suck the big one for the way you're handling the release of The Lord of the Rings on Blu-ray. There is absolutely no excuse for releasing the theatrical versions now followed by the extended versions at some unspecified date in the future. Sorry, but I won't be buying these nor will I be renting them. As far as I'm concerned, you can take 'em and shove 'em where the sun don't shine!

  • April 6, 2010, 6:38 a.m. CST

    3 Times on Blu Ray already?

    by Big_Ern_McCracken

    Where do you find the time?

  • April 6, 2010, 6:44 a.m. CST

    3 times on blu-ray.....again

    by Bouncy X

    i have no life, hell this 4 day long weekend we just had i was bored and didnt do much and never even left home. and i was tempted to watch ROTK cuz i hadnt seen it since i bought the dvd but i didnt feel like watching it cuz of the length. i cant imagine someone who has some sorta of busy life/social life being able to watch all 3....3 damn times? wow. i mean there are movies i love more than pudding but i couldnt watch multiple times within a few days or even a month. anyway i also read a review about the Jackson LOTR having crappy image. but i often read reviews lambasting a blu-ray's image and its a movie i own that i think looks amazing so it really depends on what and how you're looking.

  • April 6, 2010, 7:05 a.m. CST

    McTiernan's Thomas Crown Affair...

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    ...is one of the rare films that makes you *appreciate* remakes. The McQueen/Dunaway version is fine, but the remake is excellent, with terrific performances from Brosnan and Russo, smokin' hot MILF sex scenes, a satisfyingly witty and twisty screenplay, and slick direction from John McTiernan (his best since The Hunt For Red October). It's one of my favorite caper/heist movies.<BR><BR>And yeah, what *did* happen to Penelope Ann Miller? I still remember her brief, virtually unrecognizable role as isabeth Shue's bespectacled friend in Adventures In Babysitting! Then there's her glorious topless scene in Carlito's Way ("You have to get in...if you wanna get in"). After the mid-90's, she just kinda vanished, and I can't remember the last time I saw her in a movie. Anyways, The Relic is pure, cheesy fun, and I've seen it way too many times to be healthy. I just wonder if the Peter Hyams cinematography on the Blu-Ray is as inky-black as the DVD, where you can often not even tell what the hell is going on in some shots.

  • April 6, 2010, 7:09 a.m. CST

    I refuse to get Lucas'd into buying LotR multiple times....

    by CCon99

    Sorry, my extended editions look just fine upscaled till they release the EE's on Blu. Besides, they play the HD versions of the theatrical versions on TNT every weekend. I refuse to be nickel & dimed into buying more DVD's because they think we'll pay for this set now and then again 6-12 months later. New Line deserves the bad write ups this set has received all over Amazon.

  • April 6, 2010, 7:17 a.m. CST

    fuck you Harry, I love TOYS

    by The_Crimson_King

    I am an unashamed lover of Barry Levinson's TOYS and I would have thought that harry of all people would be able to appreciate such an awesome, offbeat and weird movie as TOYS, hoo hah! hoo hah!

  • April 6, 2010, 7:18 a.m. CST

    and Barry Levinson is a class act

    by The_Crimson_King

    ever seen his documentary Poliwood? Barry Levinson is a class act in it

  • April 6, 2010, 7:18 a.m. CST

    Harry also forgot to mention Wag The Dog

    by The_Crimson_King

    which perfectly satirizes modern politics to a point where it's almost scary

  • April 6, 2010, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Dreamscape is a pretty cool movie

    by The_Crimson_King

    I have it on dvd, it's cool, but it is pretty dated, it's definitely the type of movie Hollywood SHOULD be remaking instead of all the other remakes they uh make

  • April 6, 2010, 7:21 a.m. CST

    is anybody gonna actually buy LOTR on blu-ray, threatrical cut?

    by sith_rising

    fuck that. I don't even own a blu-ray player, and until I see the extended cuts of LOTR and a Star Wars Saga, I won't even consider it, ever.

  • April 6, 2010, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Taxidermia is AMAZING!!! But not as insane as Harry sez..

    by CHUDfucker

    yes, Martyrs was a film I had to psyche myself into watching, based on all the hype. But the second I saw the trailer for Taxidermia six months ago, I had to throw down money on an import copy. It is challenging, but artistically beautiful and very, very rewatchable.

  • April 6, 2010, 8:13 a.m. CST

    What's the status on the DAMBUSTERS remake?

    by palimpsest

  • April 6, 2010, 8:20 a.m. CST

    I'm buying LOTR Blu-Ray today...

    by rogmel

    I've never seen the EE version of these movies, but I can't imagine them being any longer. They were long enough at the theater and on DVD. I'm not a die-hard Tolkein fan like many here, so I won't lose any sleep kicking myself for buying the theatrical releases. Besides, I hear they aren't planning on releasing the EE version until the Hobbit is released at the theaters. At this rate that won't be for two or three years. I'll have watched these a dozen times by then.

  • April 6, 2010, 8:22 a.m. CST

    hahahahahahahahahaha

    by RefutetheHype

    Harry really thinks Warner will get in some kind of trouble with fans for the LOTR release like the fans will all not go see HOBBIT because of it. He honestly seems to think somebody is going to stand in the ticket qeue and say but nooooooooooo they didn't do the right thing on the LOTR blu ray so I'm boycotting. HAHAAHAHHA!

  • April 6, 2010, 8:28 a.m. CST

    I just watched Return to the 36th Chamber yesterday

    by SoylentMean

    and couldn't help wondering why there was no Blu-Ray for that? I think Harry will be waiting for an extremely long time for all of the Shaw Bros. films to hit on Blu-Ray, as for some strange reason, it seems that the audience for kung fu films in America is still kinda niche.

  • April 6, 2010, 8:30 a.m. CST

    When does Hausu hit Blu? Has it been delayed?

    by SoylentMean

    I could have sworn when Criterion released that crazy orange poster that the release date was sometime in April. Maybe it's been changed. But damn do I want to bask in the insanity of that movie.

  • April 6, 2010, 8:32 a.m. CST

    LOTR "image quality perfect"??? Far From...

    by FleshMachine

    harry..bro....stop pretending you can properly review HD picture quality...LOTR blurays are far from perfect. especially the 1st film. go to bluray.com for a REAL review.

  • April 6, 2010, 8:33 a.m. CST

    The Relic was a movie I wasn't allowed to see

    by SoylentMean

    so I snuck into a theater. Loved it then and love it now. While the cgi is definitely laughable the practical fx (especially the face of the creature) are phenomenal.<P> It's a fun monster movie, period.

  • April 6, 2010, 8:33 a.m. CST

    TAXIDERMIA

    by Series7

    TONIGHT! Long time coming. When did this site even mention that movie? I came across it at Rotten Tomatoes one random bored day at the office. <P> Also Netflix made sure you all can watch it tonight either getting it on DVD of streaming.

  • April 6, 2010, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Remember how WB treated their first run dvds?

    by SoylentMean

    With the cardboard snapcases and shitty image quality. That's what I expect from these initial releases. If you're smart you'll wait for the inevitable Blu release of the extended editions. Also, if you're dropping serious dough on movies you already own it's in your best interest to do some research to see how much time and effort has actually gone into those movies video releases.<P> While half-assed home video releases should be a thing of the past the fact remains that they are the norm, not the exception.<P> Do your homework kids.

  • April 6, 2010, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Harry, EVERY site pretty much is really disappointed

    by white_vader

    in the picture quality, mainly on Fellowship. You really should add a caveat if you don't want to come off as a complete shill with your garbage about image being "perfect". <p> Even ones without any gadgets to measure things. Look at the screenshots for crying out loud. Or is this another of the majority of movies you say you watched when really you mean you had it on, while you were doing other things? <p> Are they going to release these separately after a while? I prefer the extended of 1 and 3, but 2 towers extended with even MORE Treebeard is worse than the theatrical. I know the joke is he's putting us all to sleep, but it doesn't work the same way on film as it does in a book.

  • April 6, 2010, 8:49 a.m. CST

    THE SLAMMIN’ SALMON was DTV

    by Series7

    AAAAAAAAAAAAhahahahahah those guys suck now.

  • April 6, 2010, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Dreamscape

    by Series7

    Yeah I saw it for the first time like two years ago and it felt very very stale. I hardly remember it I just remember that a lot of nothing happens and its pretty cheesy looking now. I'd say get Never Ending Story instead, or Freddy that movie still holds up.

  • April 6, 2010, 8:52 a.m. CST

    if it looked perfect to your eyes

    by FleshMachine

    then your eyes suck, you know nothing of what a good picture is and you should NOT make such misleading and obviously ill-informed comments. All you are doing is encouraging people to buy an inferior product. That is totally irresponsible. Anyone who is even moderately A/V savvy will find the films (esp #1)to be soft and lacking in detail in many places. The repaged the original DVD transfer...THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR A FILM OF THIS CALIBRE AND YOU SHOULD NOT ENCOURAGE IT!

  • April 6, 2010, 8:53 a.m. CST

    ^ "They repackaged the DVD transfer"

    by FleshMachine

    ...

  • April 6, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Dreamscape and The Relic

    by Jack Burton

    The box art for Dreamscape is pretty close to the original poster. Not sure if it's dead on, but it was very Raiders-esque at the time. After Raiders, every adventure style movie had a similar poster. I think Struzan may have done the poster art for it as well. The movie is cheesy, but fun. It was cheesy when it was new so I can't imagine how dated it looks now. But Harry is right, the villain is really creepy in it. (Same dude from The Warriors, The Crow, Last Man Standing, etc). Relic needs to be re-made. The movie was ok, but the book was far, FAAAARRRRR superior. And it's disappointing that the movie failed so we never got a proper Douglas Preston/Lincoln Child franchise off the ground. Of course, the movie eliminated the main character of Special Agent Pendergast from the book so there wasn't anywhere else to go any way.

  • April 6, 2010, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Bakshi onstage at the Alamo cussing at Lars...

    by Lissa-Triana

    I have video of that. I could probably upload it to youtube... ;)

  • April 6, 2010, 9:23 a.m. CST

    All three LOTR movies

    by Series7

    3 times, thats roughly 27 hours of movie. I wish I had that sort of time to kill. <P> This is sort of like when Harry said he watched There Will Be Blood fives times in a row or something, which is roughly 15 hours.

  • April 6, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    What about THE COLLECTOR

    by HypothesisSpits

    Didnt that film get a release on BLU RAY this week too?

  • April 6, 2010, 9:41 a.m. CST

    HypothesisSpits

    by Series7

    Good call, that was a good movie.

  • April 6, 2010, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Is the Dreamscape BD sensored?

    by Gojira_X

    Never picked up the DVD because I heard it was an "edited for content" print.

  • April 6, 2010, 9:44 a.m. CST

    My love for Tolkien started BY READING A BOOK

    by AsimovLives

  • April 6, 2010, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Fuck Cocoon, fuck Ronnie Howard and fuck James Horner

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck them all. I outgrew Cocoon's sentimental manipulative bullshit 20 years ago. Fuck that shit.

  • April 6, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Father Geek showed Harry The Collector

    by seppukudkurosawa

    5 times before he turned 6 years old. How could you forsake your own father like that? The Collector is offbeat '60s movie heaven (was there ever a movie released in the '60s that WASN'T offbeat?).

  • April 6, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Menstrual_Bloodfart

    by AsimovLives

    There's no bashing of ENEMY MINE on my watch, mister!

  • April 6, 2010, 9:58 a.m. CST

    I'm not buying the Blu Ray LOTR's

    by exie

    And I'm exactly who their marketing spreadsheets tell them will buy them. They're not getting me this time. I'll wait for the Extended Editions and if they never come, I'll live with my upscaled version of those editions or just buy the theatrical cut in Blu used somewhere. Point being, WB isn't getting my money for these. It's a clear cash grab and next Xmas they'll release the extended editions or they'll wait for the Hobbit to be ready to release. I have a feeling in this economy, there's going to be a lot of people like me that don't plunk down the cash on the trilogy for the 3rd time on DVD.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    I forgot The Collector was supposed to release today!

    by SoylentMean

    Far more entertaining (with just a hint of the supernatural) than any of the Saw movies. And I really thought the protagonist was good in that movie.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:06 a.m. CST

    My grandparents used to love Cocoon

    by SoylentMean

    I didn't. Fuck that movie.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Dreamscape!

    by Mooly

    Man, you guys have no idea how long I've been looking for this movie. I remeber seeing it as a kid on my Uncle's dish but never knew the name of it. And when looking for it later on in life, for some reason I always thought the movie starred the guy from Gremlins.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:34 a.m. CST

    "The most fucking awesome of awesome in this awesome

    by jim

    "... little movie is the creepiest little fuck in little fucker fucking with you cinema history"<p>The Oscars should totally make that a new category: <br> "Here are the nominations for The Most Fucking Awesome of Awesome Creepiest Little Fuck in a Little Fucker Fucking With You Role, in an Awesome Little Movie, Musical, or Comedy".

  • April 6, 2010, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Criterion + Shaw Brothers

    by the castor

    Make it effing So!!!!!

  • April 6, 2010, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Ah, Dreamscape

    by Dollar Bird

    I watched that movie on Showtime several times when I was a kid. Loved the stop-motion snake-man. Oddly enough, Brainstorm aired at the same time, so I always got the 2 of them mixed up, wondering why the snake-guy wasn't harassing Natalie Wood and why Brainstorm didn't end with Dennis Quaid experiencing a tape of the afterlife. <p>Oh, Dennis Quaid. You were the poor man's Harrison Ford for so long: Enemy Mine, Dreamscape, Innerspace. What happened?

  • April 6, 2010, 10:49 a.m. CST

    SoylentMean

    by Series7

    Yeah the main guy in The Collector I think deserves to be nominated for smartest victim ever in a horror movie.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Bakshi's LOTR is kick ass

    by umbral_shadow_

    Bakshi nailed the essence of Middle Earth better than Jackson, albeit in animation form. Don't get me wrong, it is inferior in almost every other way to Jackson's films (but you're really comparing apples and oranges really). But when I read the books Bakshi's Middle Earth is closer to what I imagined.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Huh Harry? I don't understand what you're saying..

    by D.Vader

    In the Bakshi LOTR review: "I know that those of you that have come to the second holy trilogy first..." <p> What are you referring to? Is Star Wars the first holy trilogy? Are you saying pple that saw Jackson's LOTR first "... can’t stand how much was cut from Tolkein’s classic tale " <p> I've tried to work this out over and over again and I still have no idea what you're talking about. Who are those who came to what second holy trilogy first (before what?)

  • April 6, 2010, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Also, Harry, I wish you'd review the DVD releases

    by D.Vader

    I have no idea whether or not the new Bakshi LOTR DVD release is worth it or not, if it has new features compared to the old one. Please, step it up.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Linda Fiorentino... I always thought she was hot

    by D.Vader

    I had an Italian ex-girlfriend that looked like her a bit.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Menstrual_Bloodfart

    by Big_Ern_McCracken

    Daaahweeech. There is no...shppoooooooon.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST

    There is only one "Return" and it's not "of the King"

    by darthvedder81

    I finally caught the ending of "Return of the King" on TBS the other night (didn't ever bother seeing it in theaters as I hated Two Towers). So the last shot of this "epic saga" is a 12 second slo-mo of a door closing? Seriously? That's what Peter Jackson went with.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Best Dennis Quaid 80s movie was The Right Stuff.

    by vic twenty

    I know it is an ensemble piece, but it is still one of the best things ever put to film.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:27 a.m. CST

    D.Vader - re: the 1st Holy trilogy of Middle Earth

    by vic twenty

    The Hobbit (animated), Bakshi's LOTR, The Return of the King (animated). The Rankin & Bass ROTK pretty much picks up where Bakshi's left off.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:28 a.m. CST

    And the best sports movie ever made

    by the castor

    Is Visionquest

  • April 6, 2010, 11:32 a.m. CST

    You think that's what he meant Vic?

    by D.Vader

    So is he saying those fans that saw Jackson's trilogy first are disappointed with how much was cut from them? I thought he was trying to say maybe fans of Jackson's trilogy are disappointed with Bakshi's? I have no fuckin' clue!

  • April 6, 2010, 11:32 a.m. CST

    I was offended by Martyrs.

    by Felix Buckman

    By its poor pacing, but mostly by its pseudo-intellectual "What? This IS ART!" excuse for trying to put as much gore on screen as possible. Feeble moviemaking, flimsy excuse. I hope this Taxidermia flick is better.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:39 a.m. CST

    D.Vader - You got it.

    by vic twenty

    He meant those that saw the Jacksn trilogy first are disappointed with how much was cut out of the animated versions. I saw the animated ones back in the day and was happy to have them. The Jackson expanded versions are the icing on a big fat tasty cake.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Hahaha there are ads for the Collector

    by Series7

    On the site.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Re: The Collector...death by multiple bear traps

    by skimn

    Ouch...then OUCH..then fucking OOUUCCHH. That scene just, pardon the pun, kills.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:58 a.m. CST

    The LOTR EE will come out before The Hobbit...

    by Banshee7

    we all know it. So I'm not buying this version.

  • April 6, 2010, 12:20 p.m. CST

    count me as a lover of ENEMY MINE

    by The_Crimson_King

    in fact the first time I saw that movie it made me cry, seriously

  • April 6, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST

    in fact 1980's Wolfgang Petersen was at the top

    by The_Crimson_King

    of his game, you've got Das Boot, Never Ending Story and Enemy Mine, three very different, but excellent movies, it's a shame he didn't fit one more movie into that period

  • April 6, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST

    The Hobbit

    by wes

    My first love of Tolkien was/is that cartoon. Fantastic in every way! The corny songs and Smaug as this gigantic force, it's awesome! And faaaaar superior to the LotR animation. I haven't been able to re-watch that.

  • April 6, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Wild Bill

    by Aquatarkusman

    Didn't his run end with Sorcerer?

  • April 6, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST

    P.S.

    by Aquatarkusman

    Check the Inception threads for multiple Dreamscape references. I even give a shout out to snake-man before I realized Harry had done the same.

  • April 6, 2010, 12:36 p.m. CST

    The Hobbit was the first thing I ever knew of Tolkien too

    by D.Vader

    That and The Return of the King. So I love them for it. Fond childhood memories watching those movies on the Disney Channel. Back when The Disney Channel used to be awesome.

  • April 6, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Wasn't Dreamscape the first pg-13 movie?

    by Taragor

    Seem to remember that it was following the Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom PG fiasco (ripping hearts out of a mans chest isnt pg? hmmm) and for that reason I didn't get to see it. And for some reason I still haven't. Odd.

  • April 6, 2010, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Red Dawn or The Flamingo Kid

    by Aquatarkusman

    "The first film distributed with a PG-13 rating was Red Dawn (1984). Dreamscape and The Woman in Red were released on the same day the following week. The Flamingo Kid (1984) was the first film to receive the rating, but was not released until December 1984.[13][14]"

  • April 6, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST

    The problem with Bakshi's LOTR isn't...

    by Jaka

    ...what's left out, but that it's incomplete. There was to be a sequel, but the first film made so little money that the funding denied. I too love this film, though. Even through all it's flaws. For a huge portion of my life I figured it was the only LOTR movie there would ever be. Also have that Hobbit on VHS, but I don't love it nearly as much as Bakshi's LOTR. <br><br>Good lord! Did Jade really need a blu-ray release? That is one of the most god awful piece of crap films ever made.

  • April 6, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Best 80's Quaid..as lead...The Big Easy

    by skimn

    and lets not forget Petersen directed In The Line Of Fire and Air Force One...

  • April 6, 2010, 1 p.m. CST

    the first pg-13 movie

    by Series7

    The first film distributed with a PG-13 rating was Red Dawn (1984). Dreamscape and The Woman in Red were released on the same day the following week.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Ike! Do Your Impersonation of David Caruso's Career!

    by Aquatarkusman

    Well, it was funny in 1996

  • April 6, 2010, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Bakshi...loved a lot of his work, but his obvious

    by skimn

    rotoscoping and shadow tinting actual footage and passing it off as animation really bothered me. And yes, I know Disney used rotoscoping a lot, just not as transparent as Bakshi.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Bakshi's Wizards - still his best work...

    by Jaka

    ...I think.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST

    skimn - The Big Easy - that was a good one.

    by vic twenty

    Quaid had a good run for a while there, between that and DOA, with the lovely pre-Joker surgery Meg Ryan.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST

    LOTR Blu-Ray image quality

    by Dreamwriter

    Guys, stop exaggerating. I've seen the side-by-side pictures. Guess what, on a 60" screen I had to really stare for a long time to see the difference between the Blu-Ray and the HD version recorded from satellite TV, other than the improved color on the Blu-Ray. It's not "the DVD repackaged" at all, it's a HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE improvement over DVD, as it should be. The problem is for some reason they tried to get rid of the film grain, which in certain scenes blurs or pixelizes some of the detail away, in particular closeups of Gandolf's face in the first movie when his beard was all ratty.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Jeez, you'd think they'd be extra careful with this release

    by Mr. Pricklepants

    Way to drop the fucking ball, Warner Bros. (or is it New Line?) A big, important release like this and you fuck it up? Back to the drawing board, boys. Luckily for you guys, you've got another shot with the Extended Editions. Don't fuck that one up or you'll be Orc dinner.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Not to point out the obvious re: tranfers

    by Jaka

    But the TE and EE DVDs look super awesome and have the best behind the scenes material ever produced. There really is no reason to purchase this version of the films again. Just live with the awesomeness of the TE DVD's until a super incredible even longer version (that is going to happen) finally gets released.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:52 p.m. CST

    I Have DVD Upconvert on my players...

    by Merlin_Ambrosius

    ...and the 1080i quality is excellent on my 42" LCDs, I see no reason to buy the theatrical editions (again). I'm waiting for the Extended Versions. Plus, Peter Jackson has spoken on multiple occasions of doing a re-edit down the road by putting all the scenes including flashbacks in order and placing in a lot of stuff he cut out (the feast at Rivendell the night before the council) and as well as other material. So I think we'll be looking at one special edition after another. Thanks WB, but I'm saving my money!

  • April 6, 2010, 2:09 p.m. CST

    You can blame Warners for LOTR, not New Line

    by D.Vader

  • April 6, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST

    I'm kind of bummed . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    . . . I thought my first talk-back involving Bakshi's LOTR would be more fun. There are more comments on Dreamscape. Which I LOVE to death. Funniest part of Bakshi's LOTR is Gandalf spinnging around and wrapping his robe around his face. Best scene is the creepy as hell intro to the black rider, sniffing around for the ring while the hobbits hide out. Weird that they made it shuffle around like a cripple, but still awsoemely creepy! Loved how Jackson payed homage to that.

  • April 6, 2010, 2:26 p.m. CST

    TheDamBusters featuring Nig*er the dog

    by BoRock_A_Boomer

    He was the real thing

  • April 6, 2010, 2:30 p.m. CST

    I liked Penelope Ann Miller from BILOXI BLUES

    by Tacom

    Her and Park Overall in that movie were hot.

  • April 6, 2010, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Relic...

    by sewiz

    Was bad, bad, bad. What's even worse about it is, they screwed the adaptation up so bad that none of Lincoln and Childs other books have ever been adapted (and there are several that would kick all kinds of ass). The biggest problem is the monster was all wrong....in the book the monster was small...maybe like a very large dog, slightly larger than an average human...in the movie (which, huh, came out not too long after Jurassic Park), the beast is a huge dinosaurish kind of a thing. The design made me laugh...that thing was supposed to be sneaking around a museum undetected!? yeesh.

  • April 6, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST

    ... best song on animated LOTR...

    by VADER77

    "where there's a whip, there's a way"...... still remember that scene to this day...

  • April 6, 2010, 2:44 p.m. CST

    .. who else can say this: saw Dreamscape

    by VADER77

    ...Innerspace, Enemy Mine and most all the other films we're all talking about... IN the theatre, first runs opening weekends. DAMN, I am getting old..... Fuck I love movies !!!!

  • April 6, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    VADER77

    by Nice Marmot

    That song's in the Rankin Bass 'Return of the King.'

  • April 6, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    I fucking love The Relic

    by disfigurehead

    It seriously kicks ass.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:12 p.m. CST

    ... still love it Marmot....

    by VADER77

    .. you know, some things just stick with ya. (apparently correct titles don't though)

  • April 6, 2010, 3:19 p.m. CST

    remember reading Relic/Reliquary as a teenager

    by Jarek

    At the time I pictured Christopher Walken in my head as Agent Pendergast. There are probably way better matches, but still... would have been entertaining as hell.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST

    I have to re-read Relic and Relquary and continue

    by SoylentMean

    the Agent Pendergast series. The character is pretty damn cool. How many books are there now?

  • April 6, 2010, 3:39 p.m. CST

    I can't believe it!

    by Magnus Greel

    No nunsploitation??

  • April 6, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST

    The Penelope Ann Miller stardom mystery

    by seagrass

    She either fucked the wrong guy or didn't fuck the right guy.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:58 p.m. CST

    I enjoyed The Relic, but

    by seagrass

    it had some cheesy bits and dodgy acting. I remember a scene after SWAT have rappelled into the museum, and the monster rips one in half while he is trying to get back out. When the cop on the roof pulls the upper half of his buddy back up, his reaction was pretty laughable.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Best 80's Dennis Quaid movie was Innerspace

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    "The Tuck Pendleto machine...zero defects."<BR><BR>And it's funny that 25 years ago, Quaid was considered the B-list Harrison Ford, but now, Ford is like the C-list Dennis Quaid...

  • April 6, 2010, 4:03 p.m. CST

    "Tuck PENDLETON machine..."

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Oh well, at least I didn't take a dump down the leg of MY flight suit...

  • April 6, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST

    David Patrick Kelly in Dreamscape

    by BanditDarville

    He was kind of a poor man's Jackie Earle Haley in the 80's. He was good at being creepy and bugnuts crazy (Dreamscape and Warriors), but he also was good at getting his ass kicked (Commando and 48hours). I love him as the trucker/ Ben Stiller's apparent father in Flirting with Disaster.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Air Force One is shit

    by AsimovLives

  • April 6, 2010, 4:13 p.m. CST

    I also saw ENEMY MINE in the theaters

    by AsimovLives

    Years later i saw on Tv an extended version of the movie with new scenes added in. I wonder which version is in DVD, if there is one.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Air Force One has THE worst plane crash in cinema history

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Yeah, I know it was 1997, but CGI technology was STILL better than that shit they tried to pass off in a $100 million movie.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:50 p.m. CST

    If only Air Force One 's problem was the bad plane crash

    by AsimovLives

    Seen from a non-american, foreigner perspective, AIR FORCE ONE is one of the worst piece of jingoistic bullshit imaginable. If that movie had been made in China, or during the USSR years, the vast majority of the americans would be screaming bloody murder and shitting blood through their asses. But because it's the american president, it's fine? FUCK THAT BULLSHIT! Jingoism doesn't come any dumber then that shit. The guy who directed DAS BOOT did this shit? Unbelievable! What the fuck happened to him, he was taken by the body snatchers and replaced by a pod? Fuck this shit!

  • April 6, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Fairuza Balk... in a Police Uniform...

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    "She might get out her nightstick, and hurt me real real bad..." <br /><br />Oh and if any Fairuza fans are reading this, Harry forgot to mention Ms. Balk also has a black bra and panties with cop boots on scene as well.

  • April 6, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Bad Lieutenant cover

    by mondocane

    Remember Bad Lieutenant cover art contest held here a while ago? I'd choose ANY of them over the one someone actually got paid to do. Looking forward to seeing the film though.

  • April 6, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    I like "The Wearer of the Ring" from animated ROTK

    by D.Vader

    The Wearer of the Riiiiiiing, <br> The Bearer of the Riiiiiing... <p> Don't remember the rest of the song, but I know that it culminates in this epic moment where Sam, after having imagined himself as the new Lord of the lands, overthrowing the Dark Tower of Baradur and making Mordor a garden in his image, denies the Ring in a loud, dramatic fashion just as the song reaches a crescendo. Its awesome. <p> I also like Where There's a Whip.

  • April 6, 2010, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Moulin Rouge Blu Ray

    by mongo126

    WHEN??!?!???!?!!!??!?!?

  • April 6, 2010, 5:30 p.m. CST

    And here it is!

    by D.Vader

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMhY59n7X-Y <p>http://tinyurl.com/ycbgfu2

  • April 6, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Asi there really wasn't a lot of jingoism in Air Force One

    by D.Vader

    I really didn't think there was that much "Yay, America rocks!" stuff in there at all. More like "Ooooh, America could be brought to its knees pretty easily once you threaten the President's family."

  • April 6, 2010, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Actually, THIS URL has the moment where...

    by D.Vader

    Where Sam denies the Ring. The other video cuts off before that Samwise the Strong hallucination and goes straight to Frodo succumbing to the Ring at the Crack of the Doom.

  • April 6, 2010, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Here it is

    by D.Vader

    Excessive computer failure right now. <p>http://tinyurl.com/ygjecm3

  • April 6, 2010, 6:32 p.m. CST

    D.Vader

    by AsimovLives

    No jingoism bullshit in AIR FORCE ONE? Only an american would say that.

  • April 6, 2010, 6:32 p.m. CST

    "the image quality is perfect"

    by BlueHawaiiSurfer

    Harry I love you but you either... A) Are watching on a shitty TV, B) Didn't really watch this version, or C) Just can't differentiate between "perfect" (what most of us would consider reference quality) and average. You don't even mention the fact that the three movies visual style and polish is far from consistent. The first film looks like crap and for the target audience is just a slap in the face. They obviously aren't trying here, they are just milking the cash cow. Sorry, try again greedy studio execs.

  • April 6, 2010, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Cacoon sucks. Spielberg's Kick the Can is awesome

    by Proman1984

    Howard sucks.

  • April 6, 2010, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Where is my Wargames Blu-Ray?????

    by vic twenty

    Professor Falken rules you all!!! Bring back Joshua! That moody little fucker could take down the almighty MCP! or at least beat him at chess...

  • April 6, 2010, 7:30 p.m. CST

    JADE is R

    by frank cotton

    all we got on DVD was fullscreen, yet BD gets wide? assholes. LAST SEDUCTION DVD is fullscreen, too. VADER77 - frank saw all those, as well as WIZARDS (JAKA is correct). WALMART had a bunch of JADE/something DVDs for $5 - sold 'em out

  • April 6, 2010, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Harry where is Gaiking?

    by cyberskunk

    I watched the Bakshi version when it first came out, maybe twice. I may have gotten a headache.<p>For years, I misunderstood what Orcs said on a couple occasions. I thought: "Damn you swine!" but apparently it was "Dunghill swine!" <p> I also thought one Orc said to another, "You stinking lizard, you got us into this..." but it was apparently "wizard" not "lizard" and it was a complaint about the other Orc's faith in Saruman.

  • April 6, 2010, 8:15 p.m. CST

    Just watched FOTR blu

    by Anything But Tangerines

    Very few scenes looked Blu Ray quality, but everything has been improved over the DVDs. Honestly lie through your yellow fucking teeth and tell me you would rather watch keep watching LOTR in glorious fuzzyvision for another year plus. Pull your head out of your collective whiny asses and spend 60 bucks on some seriously awesome movies that look nice and sound incredible. The protest non buy is a fart i a stiff wind, this will be the best selling Blu Ray box set of the year, hands down.

  • April 6, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Damn, I loved Dreamscape back then

    by Star Hump

    This was a thrilling, creepy SUPER FUN 80s film. As Harry mentioned, superb cast. Really engrossing flick. Good column this week.

  • April 6, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST

    I'd like to remake Cocoon...

    by joe90025

    as "C-Coon!", the story of a stuttering white supremacist who befriends Jamie Foxx.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Best Sports Movie

    by Mr Lucas

    is Rollerball (original, natch).

  • April 6, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    does anyone know if the blu ray of Dreamscape is uncut?

    by The_Crimson_King

    I seem to remember hearing that the original movie had a few boobs that they cut out for the dvd release

  • April 6, 2010, 10:30 p.m. CST

    So Warner doesn't care about pissing off Jackson?

    by SK229

    That's kinda fucked up, doncha think? I mean... clearly that would upset the guy. Don't they NOT want to upset someone as powerful as Jackson? Or is he just not as powerful anymore? I don't know, I think there's kind of a bad trend where even people like Jackson and Spielberg aren't afforded the respect they once received by the studios. It wasn't that long ago some douche from Viacom publicly talked shit about Spielberg and now Warner Bros. doesn't give two shits about pissing off Jackson? I know Lovely Bones didn't do very well, but jesus christ... then you have Neill Blomkamp financing his next movie outside the studio system! The guy is like Ridley Scott coming off Alien and he'd rather get independent financing... what does that tell you? Studio system's always been fucking whomever they can, but sheesh... I thought certain people floated above the fray. Then you have shit like the 3Dization of Clash of the Titans and they wonder why the suits get such a bad rap. Or maybe they don't wonder... it just sounded like a nice way to end this post...

  • April 6, 2010, 11:30 p.m. CST

    DIRT airs on PBS this month.

    by Uncle Stan

    I was surprised to see it on one of Harry's shitty lists. Perhaps he doesn't suck as much as we think he does.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Old LOTR is shit

    by goatherdingclownhunter

    The Bakshi LOTR is shit. Utter shit. Characters stumbling around onscreen with uncoordinated movements, characters weighed down with thousands of pounds of beard, clumsy and awkward scenes of bloodshed, incoherent plotting and writing...it's one of the most awful shitshows I have ever witnessed.

  • April 6, 2010, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Who remembers the "Season Change" scene in LOTR?

    by D.Vader

    Where it just flashes through all the seasons of the Shire to show time passing and jump cuts to spring?

  • April 7, 2010, 12:10 a.m. CST

    THE 'RELIC' WAS DODGY???? WTF??

    by uberman

    Harry, I have never been critical of you, but that is the single supidist thing you've said. THE RELIC is, hands done and all around, THE MOST UNDERATED AWESOME MONSTER MOVIE! Stan Winston created a monster every bit the equal to his Alien Queen. And scary? THE RELIC is tense as hell, the when people die, well, they die...badly. Not a note out of place in this flick-one of the BEST creature feature ever put on film-Period.

  • April 7, 2010, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Penelope Ann Miller

    by jimmy rabbitte

    does seem to have made a lot of bad career choices... that said (heh) she looked great naked, in Carlito's Way.

  • April 7, 2010, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Peter Jackson? Powerful?!?!

    by Anything But Tangerines

    What has he done since LOTR but make 2 excruciatingly EPIC BOMBS and he can't wait to drag Speilberg down with him with his third. What the fuck clout is he going to have after King Kong, Lovely Bones, and then TINTIN?!?! Right now he is probably dropping ambien and nyquil to kill the thought of giving up the only sure bet he had to Guillermo Del Toro.

  • April 7, 2010, 12:49 a.m. CST

    by Anything But Tangerines

    Tintin...

  • April 7, 2010, 1:24 a.m. CST

    To all the Bakshi Boyz on AICN:

    by Merlin_Ambrosius

    Let's see Bakshi's "masterpiece" featured, Native American Strider, Viking Boromir, Village Idiot Sam, and Disney Galadriel. All in all, utter shite! The only decent performance was from the actor who voiced Gollum, Peter Woodthorpe, and that was because he is the same actor who voiced him in the BBC Radio's 1981 adaptation! All in all Bakshi's Rotoscoping Nightmare on Bagshot Row should have been tossed into the cracks of doom along with The One Ring. Unfortunately it survives along with some of Sauron's lesser servants.

  • April 7, 2010, 1:26 a.m. CST

    Kate Capshaw tits

    by Gorgomel

    do they appear on the blu-ray or are they invisibles like on the dvd? I want the uncut version of Dreamscape now!

  • April 7, 2010, 2:45 a.m. CST

    IMAGE QUALITY IS PERFECT?

    by batman713

    WTF are you smoking harry (cause I want some)? Every blu-ray dedicated site on the net is calling shit on this release. The transfer is horrible.

  • April 7, 2010, 4:22 a.m. CST

    Only thing Ronnie Howard ever done well...

    by AsimovLives

    ... was his daughter Bryce Dallas Howard. His true masterpiece. His movies, however, sucks.

  • April 7, 2010, 4:25 a.m. CST

    I have heard nothing but shit from Baskin's LOTR cartoon

    by AsimovLives

    And now people are claiming it's an underappreciated masterpiece? From the same site that kissed the ass of JJ Abrams's FRAUD TREK? Allow me some skepticism on this, friends. I might just download the thing just to check it out of curiosity.

  • April 7, 2010, 4:29 a.m. CST

    D.Vader

    by AsimovLives

    I have heard of the infamous seasons change sequence. Seems they literally presented the season changes of 30 years in a few seconds, causing a stroboscopic effect. The movie's review in THE AGONY BOOTH is quite hillarious in describing that part.

  • April 7, 2010, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Native American Strider

    by Nice Marmot

    That's some funny stuff right there! I'm grinning ear to ear just thinking of all the bad parts of Bakshi's LOTR. How bout the Balrog as a winged cowardly lion with bell bottoms? Or the ridiculously gigantic hands on the Gollum silhouette at the beginning?

  • April 7, 2010, 8:39 a.m. CST

    johnnyrandom, MARTYRS is lame???

    by AsimovLives

    Are you mad?

  • April 7, 2010, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Nice Marmot

    by AsimovLives

    And Tom Bombadil looks like Santa Claus that looks at Frodo as if to screw him, right? And the over-gesticulating Gandalf. The mongloid looking Sam who acts and talks like a baffon. And the Rainbow Saruman. And the fact the movie doesn't seem to get the name of Saruman right. All this are stuff i heard about that movie.

  • April 7, 2010, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Whoa! Tom Bombadil is in the movie?

    by Nice Marmot

    I THOUGHT I remembered it well . . . You're right about Saruman too. They say it correctly once and then switch over to 'Aruman. Like people would be stupid and confuse him w/ Sauron or something.

  • April 7, 2010, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Correction, it's Gandalf who looks kinda like Santa

    by AsimovLives

    and he looks at Frodo as if he wants to have his way with him, if you get my meaning.

  • April 7, 2010, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Calling The Hunted or Rules... "bouncing back"

    by reflecto

    is a bit charitable, to say the least. I admire Friedkin's intentions with both films but from concept to execution are two different stages - Rules is so-so, and The Hunted is just not terribly good.

  • April 7, 2010, 9 a.m. CST

    As for Jade, read Joe Eszterhas' "Hollywood Animal"

    by reflecto

    He expounds ad nauseum on the "genius" of his original script and how Friedkin fucked it up by trying to turn it into an old Alan Pakula thriller from the '70s (which were great, but not Jade). I'm not terribly convinced Joe's script would've been any better - he was obsessed with the simple and bland idea of Fiorentino's character using sex-for-cash to get revenge on her cheating husband - but he sure writes up a storm talking about a movie no one else has hardly ever spoken about, for obvious reasons.

  • April 7, 2010, 9:15 a.m. CST

    TAXIDERMIA

    by Series7

    Watched it last night. Make that a skip it for everyone else. Obviously Harry didn't fucking see it. Its hardly as bad as anyone says. The only really gross part is the big block of horse meat eating contest. Also the movie is just sort of stupid and not really funny or interesting. Nor as surreal as you'd think. Also no where near as fucked up as Maytars or Inside.

  • April 7, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST

    You guys never ate horse?

    by AsimovLives

    Horse is delicious. A bit more intensed flavoured then cow, but it's quite tasty. I think it's even better then cown beef. But nothing in the form of beef tastes better then deer.

  • Here’s an idea, which incidentally, might keep you more honest about posting this weekly article in a timely manner (‘cause while you’ve been better at this lately, the jury is still out in the long run). Why not invite a special contributor every week (a filmmaker, film critic, or even another regular AICN contributor) to offer another opinion. You could take turns reviewing releases, or even better, place their take on the film right below yours for good old-fashioned journalistic juxtaposition. ‘Cause while I feel like we always get a really impassioned fanboy’s perspective from you, we don’t always get a feel for what these films are really about. In other words, more critical deconstruction, less how hot Penelope Ann Miller looked in the mid-90s!

  • April 7, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Joe Eszterhas is crazy

    by AsimovLives

    But he himself admits that some of the better moments in BASIC INSTINCT were Paul Verhoeven's ideas, not his.

  • April 7, 2010, 9:26 a.m. CST

    SadCadillac

    by AsimovLives

    Harry didn't liked TRANSFORMERS 2 and CLASH OF THE TITANS and he was quite vocal. There's hope for the old boy.

  • April 7, 2010, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Bakshi's LOTR

    by Star Hump

    was exciting way back when due to the rotoscoping and, of course, seeing Tolkien's characters move and speak on screen, but now there's no denying it's a horrid depiction of the first book. It's truly awful. Bakshi was in over his head.<p> I prefer Fire and Ice. You get the Bakshi style, including rotoscoping, but with a basic comic book story that flows well. Best of all, Frank Frazetta was involved so you have a great Frazetta babe, a version of the Death Dealer and lots of grunting subhuman henchman dying en masse. Fun flick, and far superior to Bakshi's LotR. Fire and Ice is out on DVD with a killer Frazetta documentrary included too. Don't know about BLU.

  • April 7, 2010, 10:02 a.m. CST

    SoylentMean

    by The Mothman

    There's about 8 books in the series now I think. I remember seeing Relic and thinking 'not bad...based on a book I see...seems like there could be a lot more to this story, might check it out'. As it turns out, there is a LOT more. Great action adventure stories, simple as that. In an alternate universe where awesome reigns, they've made the Relic and Reliquary with $50 million each and the blonde guy from the first Zorro movie as Pendergast.

  • April 7, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Fell asleep during Taxidermia

    by Evil E

    Went to it at the midnight showing at Fantastic Fest a couple years ago and fell asleep about half an hour in. Woke up with around 10 minutes left and saw some of the most bizarre and disturbing scenes of my life. Now I'll finally get to see what led up to that ending.

  • April 7, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST

    bizarre and disturbing scenes of my life??

    by Series7

    You must've seen a different movie then Taxidermia. The last ten minutes were pretty much just some medical video.

  • April 7, 2010, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Taxedermia

    by TDavis

    Three weeks ago I was in a hotel in Sydney. It was around midnight and there seemed to be nothing on TV but Rugby and Cricket recaps. I surfed around the stations a bit a suddenly there was this scene of power vomiting. Well, I thought,THIS looks different! I watched the rest of the film trying, without much success, to figure out WTF was going on. I really would like to see the first half-hour I missed just to decide if there was something there that tied the plot together. That said, I don't think I'd want to sit through the rest of the movie again!

  • April 7, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Vader

    by MovieWhore

    'Where theres a whip theres a way" is one of my fave songs of all time period!!! It rocks all kinds of shit .. it just screams for a hardcore cover

  • April 7, 2010, 11:43 a.m. CST

    TDavis

    by Series7

    You aren't missing much, unless you want to see a flaming penis. The first half hour is about some poor bitch soilder who gets raged on and is caught banging a pig and then killed. Though it was probably the most interestingly done segment of the movie. Also I think he was the father of the champion eater.

  • April 7, 2010, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Still haven't seen Martyrs...

    by CathleenTurnerOverdrive

    What's with all the hype? Is it really that intense, or is this just another case of some horror movie being hyped as the next big thing ala Hatchet?

  • April 7, 2010, 12:53 p.m. CST

    You got that right, StarHump.

    by Nice Marmot

    I consider Fire & Ice Bakshi's best. It could have been Wizards, but that one just seems unfinished.

  • April 7, 2010, 12:58 p.m. CST

    CathleenTurnerOverdrive

    by Series7

    Martyrs is nothing like Hatchet. Its the new French Extreme style. Closer to Haute Tension but more brutal. I'd say that movie lives up to the hype, but its a pretty disturbing movie, not some fun serial killing monster like Hatchet.

  • April 7, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Saw Bad Lt. port of call last night ...I gotta say..

    by mr dark

    It was the best thing Cage has done since Adaptation...I really liked Herzogs work on this film. I also liked the original Ferrara version with Kietel but this was tailor made for Cage's ecentric acting and he did a great job inhabiting the character of Terrance. All around good work by the supporting cast Kilmer, Mendes,Coolidge...It's definitly worth checking out..Some may be put off by the Iguana scene as it really takes a hallucinatory step out of the picture..Not jarring but some may just have a WTF moment and lose the essence of what Herzog did with that scene..I thought it was pitch perfect..I hope Mr. Cage is on a roll here as I am really looking forward to Kickass and a little less the Sorceror's Apprentice..but I gotta give it up for his performance in this film it was great..

  • April 7, 2010, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by CathleenTurnerOverdrive

    Cool. Own Haute Tension. Pretty great horror movie. Endings a bit weak, but overall pretty tense. Just haven't gotten around to seeing Martyrs or Inside yet. Both really seem to get a lot of hype from the horror community as being intense/extreme, while still being good films as well. However, I've wasted my time on several films over the years that have had the same kind of labels placed on them. Thanks for the info. I'll plan on checking Martyrs out soon.

  • April 7, 2010, 2:09 p.m. CST

    @Harry: LOTR Picture quality

    by heks

    Hey Harry,<br /> <br /> I don't know that there can really be any debate over the poor picture quality of the LOTR movies at various points, particularly FOTR. The image on BD looks softer and more waxy than the HDTV broadcasts, which is pretty ridiculous. I'd suggest you check out this thread at AVS Forum: http://tinyurl.com/yekup2v<br /> <br /> Peter Jackson needs to be made aware that lots of LOTR fans that care about picture quality are not happy at all with this release. The Extended Editions need to be better.

  • April 7, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Hard to decide on theatrical vs EE LOTR

    by Adelai Niska

    I think the theatrical FOTR was better, extended TTT was better, and both ROTK versions are too long. At least the extended has Christopher Lee and hobbits smoking weed, so I'll tip it in favour in of the EE. <p> So for me personally, I'd go theatrical, extended, extended.

  • April 7, 2010, 2:17 p.m. CST

    I love the extended intro to Hobbits/The Shire.....

    by Nice Marmot

    ....in FOTR. That and actually seeing Galadrial give Frodo the light. That's all I felt was necessary. Definitely love the extended TTT. Saruman's demise and the Huorns (sp???) at Helms Deep are great. I couldn't even tell you what's added to the extended ROTK. Haven't watched it since the day it came out.

  • April 7, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Tom Bombadil in Bakshi's version

    by cyberskunk

    Does Not Exist. No Bombadil. <p>No.<p> Although I like the idea of a bomberman variation with an armadillo wearing Tom's hat and blowing up wights.

  • April 7, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Bakshi's LOTR was not good

    by IAmLegolas

    As with any childhood nostalgia, take off the rose colored glasses. Maybe back THEN when you are 9 years old and it was someone’s first experience with LOTR, it might have been great, since they have nothing to compare it to. And some people probably gave it’s many faults a pass since it was the only moving visual adaptation in town for many years. But even then if one hadn't have had read the books, it was an incoherent, dreamscape of a mess that suddenly just ended. Bakshi has done far better work, even with “Fire & Ice”.

  • April 7, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Theatrical vs. Extended (Jackson's LOTR)

    by IAmLegolas

    No contest, it's the EE's. Unless you are one of those people who bitch and moan about the movies being too long, with too many endings. And if you are, you were probably only mildly into the movies anyway.

  • April 7, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST

    I chickenshitted with Martyrs (love the verb use Harry)

    by charabicharabia

    So I will skip Taxidermia.... But Bad Lieutenant is on the top of my list....Nic Cage rules !

  • April 7, 2010, 3:27 p.m. CST

    or was it chickenshat......mmmmm....

    by charabicharabia

  • April 7, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Jackson LOTR

    by Andillformthehead

    Weren't the theatricals not as good a transfer as the extendeds on dvd? I only bought the extended but I did read there was a great deal more detail in the extendeds. Maybe more movie more cash more care in transfer?

  • April 7, 2010, 4:11 p.m. CST

    I just wanted to say....

    by Darth Macchio

    that Linda Fiorentino is hot in fucking everything. She's the only frames worth watching in half the films she's in...not so sure about her now not having seen her in a while but I'd guess she's at least Holly Hunter hot.<p>I can't watch Jade as a movie at all and I will always see the red head guy as the whiney guy from Rambo that get's stabbed in the back of the thigh.<p>But Linda Fiorentino is one of the all-time unsung superhotties of American cinema.

  • April 7, 2010, 4:34 p.m. CST

    No Scouring of the Shire...

    by Mathom

    In Baskshi's version either. Hell it didn't even make it to the end of book two. However I am still a big fan of it, both from the animation, and the voice work. Even though they replace Glorfindel with Legolas...at least it wasn't Arwen. (sorry Liv but I've never understood that move.) The music is also spot on. I daresay I like it almost as well as Jacksons....which would have been perfect if he had left in the Scouring of the Shire. It is after all the most important part of the story. No I'm still not over it.

  • April 7, 2010, 4:40 p.m. CST

    LOTR Extended

    by Mathom

    Legolas shoots Wormtounge after he stabs Sauraman? WTF. Another thing I'm not quite over. I know it was a way of touching on events in the SOTS early without actually Scouring it...but I didn't find it effective. But I will give ROTK extended the benefit of the doubt with the MOUTH of Sauron sequence. That was off the chain!

  • April 7, 2010, 4:40 p.m. CST

    the EE versiosnof the LOTR movies are far better then...

    by AsimovLives

    ... the theatrical verions. Except THE RETURN OF THE KING. i have tom say, ROTK disappointed me a lot, in both versions. For me, it was the start of the end of my enthusiasm and awe for Peter Jackson. I saw errors and misguidnesses in ROTK that were only exarcebated in Jackson's another misguided movie, KING KONG, or as i call it "die fucking monkey already, just fucking die!". But i thank Jackson for his efforts that helped DISTRICT 9 being the movie it is. Thanks, pal.

  • April 7, 2010, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Mathom

    by heks

    I couldn't agree more with you on the issue of the Scouring of the Shire. I was in disbelief when I heard it wasn't going to make it into the movie ... even the EE version. The Scouring of the Shire is the culmination of the Hobbits' story, showing their growth over the course of the story from the helpless versions of themselves at the start to the confident and assertive versions, now capable of solving their own problems without the help of the big folks, showing that even the smallest person really can make a difference, no matter the relative size of the obstacles they face.

  • April 7, 2010, 6:21 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by heks

    My big problem with ROTK was that it was called "Return of THE KING" but Aragorn disappears from the story for a full 45 minutes, only to come back in near the end. The title was supposed to be a reference to the King returning to take up the throne of Gondor, not to the character returning after a ridiculously extended absence from screen time during the story.

  • April 7, 2010, 7:42 p.m. CST

    heks, in the book Aragon disappears for over half of it.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    Read the damn books or recant your failed logic.

  • April 7, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Aragorn disappeared in the books...

    by CCon99

    The RotK film did that part pretty much spot on from the book. The only difference was in the book there were more people with him then just Gimli and Legolas. They had a company of about 30 Rangers join them in the Paths of the Dead.

  • April 7, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST

    heks

    by HEADGEEK

    Peter is aware - he just isn't being involved by Time Warner in the release or creation of the Blu Rays.

  • April 7, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Stereotypical Evil Archer

    by heks

    I've read the books 8 times. I usually read them once per year. But Aragorn's absence is not so glaring in the book because of its structure of following one group's story, then another's, then another's, till they meet up again. The movie intercuts their stories, running them all concurrently, so when one group suddenly disappears for 45 minutes IN THE MOVIE, the absence becomes glaring. Please feel free to revisit your own logic.

  • April 7, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Harry

    by heks

    That's unfortunate that he isn't being involved in the creation of the Blu-Rays, but as I understand it, he's essentially put his seal of approval on them, saying that they look great, when they actually don't ... at least nowhere near as great as they should. I think he should be separating himself from them a bit, or at least not giving them his approval, because it will reduce the perceived value of his stamp of approval when it comes to future releases. Does he have any idea if he'll get to be more involved down the road when it comes to the release of the Extended Editions?

  • April 7, 2010, 8:35 p.m. CST

    Nice Marmot I Forgot About The Balrog In Bell Bottoms!

    by Merlin_Ambrosius

    It really was a tragic mess.

  • April 7, 2010, 9:02 p.m. CST

    CC0N99

    by heks

    See my comments to Stereotypical Evil Archer. My issue with Aragorn's disappearance is the much more noticeable nature of it within the structure of the movies compared to the structure of the books. I'd tend to count myself in the camp that prefers as few changes as possible to the story as presented in the book, but without sacrificing the flow of the movie. There were a few spots where changes were made to the story or extra things added to the movie to improve the flow of the films. One example, off the top of my head, is having Gandalf ride in to save the day with the Rohirrim at the end of TTT instead of the characters who show up in the role in the book, never seen before or really after that point in the books. It wouldn't have made sense to add this entirely new character to the movie to be the hero just for the sake of that one scene and then disappear. Likewise, I think the flow of the movie might have benefited from showing more from the Aragorn storyline during the period after the Paths of the Dead and before they show up in ships during the Battle of the Pelennor Fields ... even if those extra bits were educated guesses extrapolated from the surrounding story. It's possible it wouldn't have worked, but if it could work I think it would improve the flow of the film.

  • April 7, 2010, 10:57 p.m. CST

    by Juggernaut125

    Dreamscape on blu-ray is excellent. Think I'll go hunt it down. I'd like to find a "Things To Do In Denver When You're Dead" on blu-ray.

  • April 8, 2010, 1:33 a.m. CST

    JAKA Directors Cut....

    by moviemenace

    of "Jade" is not included on the blu-ray. It's weird they would not include it since it is far superior to the theatrical version. The director's cut is a bit predictable but it at leasts makes sense.

  • April 8, 2010, 2:13 a.m. CST

    In Harry's Defense...

    by NativeGaijin

    I know everyone is ragging on Harry about his evaluation of the LOTR set's Blu-ray quality, but it may have more to do with his home theater set-up than defective eyeballs. If I recall correctly, Harry uses a Panasonic PT-AE2000 front projector. Taken as a whole, it's a decent projector. However, it has one "advanced" feature that can get in the way of critically evaluating picture quality and that is "Smooth Screen". Originally intended to eliminate visible pixels from Panasonic's 720p projectors, Smooth Screen blends adjoining pixels together to make the image look more film-like. Unfortunately, on a 1080p projector like the AE2000 it can do more harm than good by softening the picture and obscuring detail too much. In other words, it can cover up exactly the kinds of problems that are being reported in all the online disc reviews. Unless you watched it side-by-side on another sharper projector (like a Mitsubishi for example), the problems could be hard to spot. Personally, I'm not going to buy the theatrical versions since I already have Blu-ray copies of the Extended Editions that I recorded from HD broadcasts a few years ago (one of the many cool things about living in Japan is Blu-ray recorders). If they do a better job on the Extended Editions I'll consider buying those, since even the best broadcast HD is still noticeably inferior to good Blu-ray.

  • April 8, 2010, 4:19 a.m. CST

    NativeGaijin

    by HEADGEEK

    I don't have a PANASONIC PT-AE2000.... I've got an EPSON model of some sort.

  • April 8, 2010, 6:08 a.m. CST

    I know that those of you that have come to the second holy trilo

    by squidman

    That's a sentence.

  • April 8, 2010, 6:15 a.m. CST

    Harry, did you upgrade recently?

    by NativeGaijin

    For some reason, I recall someone mentioning the Panasonic on AICN, and I thought it was you. I know you had a Sharp 720p before. Anyway, the Epsons (any of the 1080p models) are excellent projectors.

  • April 8, 2010, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Sauron...Saruman

    by freerangecelt

    From what I understand, it was thought that Sauron and Saruman sounded too much alike, and would confuse the viewer, so they tried the "Aruman" angle, and then just ended up dropping it. Like Strider's pants. He has none.

  • April 8, 2010, 12:40 p.m. CST

    DAVID PATRICK KELLY

    by fiester

    "Waaaaarrrriorrrrs...Come out to play-ay-ay!"

  • April 8, 2010, 1:04 p.m. CST

    watched BAD LIEUTENANT last night

    by frank cotton

    it's a keeper

  • April 8, 2010, 1:07 p.m. CST

    he left, he RETURNED

    by frank cotton

    makes sense to me

  • April 8, 2010, 1:41 p.m. CST

    David Patrick Kelly

    by jasper Stillwell

    Is a fucking god, he really is. That's who would give us all a 'Joker' to be really scared of.

  • April 8, 2010, 1:41 p.m. CST

    David Patrick Kelly

    by jasper Stillwell

    Is a fucking god, he really is. That's who would give us all a 'Joker' to be really scared of.

  • April 8, 2010, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Actually, cheking the book...

    by heks

    ...it seems to me that the movie could have resolved the problem of Aragorn's extended disappearance simply by stretching out the Paths of the Dead storyline in much the same way the book did. If they'd followed that portion of the book a bit closer, they could have cut back to a scene with Aragorn somewhere in the middle of his 45 minute disappearance and still given away less of the surprise of his appearance in the Corsair ships during the Battle of Pelennor Fields than they did (at least in the Extended Edition ... I'd have to check the theatrical version again to see if you get a glimpse of the ships after the Paths of the Dead sequence).

  • April 8, 2010, 1:54 p.m. CST

    please dont buy the LOTR Blurays!!

    by FleshMachine

    if you care about these films...i do...or you are playing in to their greedy corporate hands...they do not give a fuck about you, the fan. they are trying to pawn off a half assed product like we won't care...show these fuckers that we do care, and we wont buy until they release a proper fully remastered extended edition, and it has to have everything the SD discs have plus way more. (Peter Jackson specifically said he's holding back on a ton of material for another release) FUCK YOU WARNER!!

  • April 8, 2010, 2:04 p.m. CST

    FleshMachine

    by heks

    I agree with you. If people really want an LOTR HD fix (or quasi-HD fix), they'd be better off downloading the torrents for the HDTV broadcasts or blu-ray rips to tide them over until there's a proper extended edition release.<br /> <br /> Normally I'd be all over buying these movies and telling other people to buy them, as I have with the previous DVD versions, but this blu-ray monstrosity just isn't right. Why drop $60 for a blu-ray set that is inferior to and has less detail than the HDTV rips that have been around for many years? There's a conspicuous lack of film grain on the blu-rays, which becomes even more apparent and disappointing those few times you actually see a few seconds of a scene where the grain is visible and the picture looks much more detailed, only to disappear into smoothness again seconds later.

  • April 8, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Totally right about Sam Rockwell

    by Saracen1

    He definitely should have been nominated. An excellent performance in a vastly underappreciated film.

  • April 8, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Scouring of the Shire was excessive

    by MattmanReturns

    The story just keeps going after its logical conclusion. Tolkien may have written a masterpiece, but it meandered a lot. I dare say it could've used some serious editing. Jackson removed the elements that had nothing to do with the story, and I'm sorry but removing the Scouring is a perfectly natural, obvious decision. As is removing Tom Bombadil.

  • April 8, 2010, 9:57 p.m. CST

    speaking of next weeks releases

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    I just finished watching an "advanced" copy of slammin' salmon and i gotta say it's a great little film, doesn't top super troopers, but it's definetly the second best film from the list of broken lizard films. Micheal Clarke duncan is hillarious in it, and i was surprised with all the cameos of name actors in the film that it wasn't more widely marketed. It only played in my town for like 2 weeks, this should have been a wide release, WTF, why is this practically direct to video - this things is funny as hell

  • April 8, 2010, 10:46 p.m. CST

    MattmanReturns

    by heks

    I really don't agree with your assessment of the Scouring of the Shire as being an element "that had nothing to do with the story." I mentioned earlier in this talkback that it was actually the culmination of the Hobbits' character arcs and how that was so. It also showed that no part of middle earth was untouched by the evil shadow of Mordor; even the rolling green hills of the Shire, inhabited by peace-loving people too small for most everyone else to care about or factor into any of their plans. In a sense, what is contained in the Scouring of the Shire is the whole POINT of the story.

  • April 9, 2010, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Say It heks, The Scouring of The Shire was essential!

    by Merlin_Ambrosius

    Also, without it there is no regeneration of the Shire by Sam through Galadriel's gift of earth and seed from her Garden. And it shows how Sam's wisdom has come full circle by his unselfish use of his gift.

  • April 9, 2010, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Merlin_Ambrosius

    by heks

    Good point, I'd forgotten about that. And come to think of it, didn't the extended version of FOTR show Galadriel giving Sam this gift before they all left Lothlorien?

  • April 9, 2010, 3:30 a.m. CST

    Taxidermia?

    by JoseJones

    Really? Lame. Count me among the "too mature". Anyone with Discovery channel has seen worse and anyone who can read at a third grade level has experienced deeper.

  • April 9, 2010, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Mattman

    by ghost_matt

    I agree with the others, in a way the Scouring was the whole point of the story. It showed that, even though they saved the world, sacrifices had to be made and it will never be the same. The Shire's innocence is lost, the elves are gone forever, magic is fading from the world...so much had to be sacrificed to pave the way for Man.

  • April 9, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST

    ghost_matt

    by heks

    I think that's another great description of the importance of the Scouring.

  • April 9, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Absolutely

    by freerangecelt

    the Scouring of the Shire is the culmination of the story. Our four Hobbits had to go on their journey and come back changed to face the threat that had come to their home. They came back battle-hardened and ready to face the challenge of Sharkey's men, who had no respect for the little folk. Even the Rangers are gone at this time, so there is no one protecting the Shire, so the hobbits have to do it themselves. Merry and Pippen come back as warriors, and become leaders because of it. Plus, as a little aside and love for Bombadil, the hobbits hang on to their barrow-blades (given to them after he saves them from the barrow-wights) blades made by the Dunedain centuries before to be used against Angmar, and it is Merry's blade, and his use of it, that helps break the spell that made the Witch-King invulnerable. Then Eowyn is able to kill him as she "is no man, but woman." Even the Dunedain of the North-Kingdom have their revenge, and their story tied up, by that. So losing Bombadil changed the whole point of that as well. I personally think that while Return of the King is a fine film, it is the weakest of the three because all of the story changes in FOTR and TTT made the end story weak. IMO :) and screw Angmar.

  • April 9, 2010, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Dam Busters Contraversy

    by homer40

    Dam Busters is a great movie, no doubt, an amazing true story told brilliantly, with great effects. The aforementioned controversy relates to the name of the dog the English have on the base. He is a black dog named, don't blame me, "Nigger". He is repeatedly referred to by name in the film (The Dam Busters is the movie Pink is watching in The Wall, and it is this scene). There was a debate about whether to honor the historically accurate dog name, or change it for modern PC reasons. Honestly, I can't figure out why there is even a question, change the name of the fucking dog. Oh, and Dreamscape was one of those great take you by surprise better than average films from my youth. Definitely worth watching.

  • April 9, 2010, 8:17 p.m. CST

    And update ... sort of

    by heks

    I've been continuing to read the thread over at avsforum and it turns out that someone actually confirmed/determined a week or two ago that the master for this LOTR blu-ray release is that same one that was used for an HDTV broadcast 8 years ago. So it is evidently certain that they didn't bother to remaster this before releasing the blu-ray. How insane is this?

  • April 10, 2010, 2:38 a.m. CST

    Blu Ray LOTR:TE still better than DVD versions..

    by CeejayNightwing

    So if you're like me and own both TE and EE on DVD, then buying the Blu Ray makes sense because it's still superior to the DVD equivalent. I can in all honesty wait for the EE just like I did before, the TE are still entertaining to watch as i've rediscovered after purchasing the Blu Ray. Sure the FOTR transfer quality isn't the best I've seen on Blu Ray, but it's better than the DVD and that's all that matters. Plus the extras on the TE versions are not the same as the Extras on the EE releases, no trailers or original documentaries that accompanied the release of the films etc. Jackson in true fairness never cheated any of us with the structure of these releases. The EE has completely different documentaries and no trailers, it's literally just more expansive material beyond the basic extras that a release would have as standard. I love these films, I must own both versions and this is where it starts,not with moaning about being ripped off or the quality not being up to scratch or with it not being extended blah blah. I love Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back, I want the originals as well as the horribly mutilated Lucas SE with CGI killing as much as it can simply becasue some of those SE changes do work. Chances that Lucas would give us both versions is about as realistic as the Jews and Israeli's not fighting each other for the next 50 years. At least we get a choice with these LOTR releases and in the end that's what it's all about, CHOICE!

  • April 10, 2010, 3:01 a.m. CST

    Scouring of the Shire in ROTK..

    by CeejayNightwing

    is definitely for book readers who simply don't understand that adapting everything does not make for a better film. Even in the book the Scoring of the Shire comes off as a needles addition tot he tale with Saruman and Wormtounge turning up to start a whole new rule in the Shire etc. It's just not something that is realistic when you truly visualize a situation on film, it's like fighting Hitler and Mussolini in WW2 then letting Mussolini go free only to find after the war is over that he's taken over the city of Manchester in England and a bunch of returning young soldiers have to find a way to get rid of him becasue the powers that be considered the once ruler of an army trying to take over the world not too important! That's why they scrapped it for the film, the situation simply doesn't work no matter how good its original intent was. Better Saruman dies avoiding capture at his base of operations rather than they let him go free becasue they don't consider him a threat only for him to come back later as a mini-league dictator in the Shire. The entire Tom Bombadil sequence in the book is utterly useless and pointless, to put it in any version of a film adaptation would have your audience thinking you've lost the plot. Again it's only for book fans who think everything on paper simply has to make it to screen. A book is something you read over a longer period, days or weeks even. It's something where you don't mind absorbing tons of superfluous data and information at your own leisure. A movie does not have that luxury, it has to account for an allotted time period in order to get a visual narrative across. You have to be very artistic and very decisive with adapting the necessary elements that drive the core story when doing a movie version. Without understanding this, bookworms will always feel compelled to compare the two pointlessly and utter the same old garbage about the book always being better than the movie as well as moaning about what was left out. Jackson's version of events make better sense than the way it was presented in the book. To have the scouring of the shire presented as an event that could happen should they fail in their quest is better than having it happen as a cause of them being nonchalant about letting the magical ruler of the opposing ethnic cleansing Orc army, be allowed to walk free simply because he seemed "harmless" at the time!

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  • April 10, 2010, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Tolkien Considered "The Scouring of The Shire"...

    by Merlin_Ambrosius

    ...absolutely essential to The Lord of The Rings and people who argue otherwise suffer from short attention spans and poor reading skills and undoubtedly prefer the readers digest version of books, or better yet the Cliffs Notes summary.

  • April 10, 2010, 7 p.m. CST

    heks - EE Showed Galadriel Giving Sam Some Rope...

    by Merlin_Ambrosius

    ...a gift that was given to the whole fellowship in the books. I always thought that the gift she gave Sam in the Book was the most generous one given and the most magical.

  • April 10, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Tolkien unfortunately...

    by CeejayNightwing

    ..was not a film director nor did he ever work on a screenplay to fully comprehend the parameters of a movie as opposed to a book. He considered LOTR unfilmable,if he'd had lived to see what we can do with computers today then he'd have obviously changed that perspective as well as others. I love the books for what they are, but at no point do I you could fit them into well structured films without change to make sense of the visual narrative. The Scouring of the Shire is simply not a necessary part to produce in order to get across that the Hobbits have returned as heroes in their own right. Their very acts throughout the film underlines this better than in the books and the performance they give for the final conflicts on screen leaves no viewer in doubt of their friendship, courage and willingness to forfeit their lives for a greater cause. Scouring the Shire would simply be as tacked on an episode as it appears in the book and merely another checklist square to tick off for the vision less and short-sighted book purist. When you're making a movie, you can't simply stick to the book, you have to use common sense and it makes none whatsoever to let Saruman free with his second in command simply becasue you've bested them in battle. Audiences around the world would scratch their heads with the ludicrousness of the plot regardless of how essential Tolkien considered it in its literal form. Common sense works, sometimes you have to use it when doing an adaptation and not follow the book like some unquestioning follower of religious doctrine!

  • April 10, 2010, 9 p.m. CST

    CJ, Unfortunately You Don't Understand Tolkien,

    by Merlin_Ambrosius

    The tragedy he was conveying is that the heroes expected to come home to a land unchanged instead they come home to a deforested and devastated Shire which to them was worse than anything else they had seen or experienced.

  • April 11, 2010, 1:29 a.m. CST

    The Scouring

    by jawaburger

    It may be important, but do we really need another ending tacked on to the ROTK. People were bitching endlessly about how the movie had too many endings, and not people are bitching that there were not enough endings to the movie. They could not add the scouring without adding at least 20-30 more minutes to the already very long movie. Not many people in the general movie going public want to see a four hour movie. I might, and you might. Can't we just be happy with the amazing undertaking that Peter Jackson has done. It is quite an achievement, and I don't think anyone could have done a better job. So let's stop nitpicking.

  • April 11, 2010, 2:13 a.m. CST

    on needing every last bit from the book

    by heks

    I wouldn't consider myself in the camp of people who think that every single thing in the book needs to make it to screen, or that every change to the movie is somehow sacrilegious. I perfectly understand why the Scouring wasn't in the theatrical versions. But the extended editions are intended to be closer to the books and contain more of the story ... particularly the parts of the story that are important to fans of the book. To me, the Scouring should have been the alternate ending to the extended version of ROTK, even if it was 30 mins longer. That would have been a more extreme version of the alternate beginning to FOTR, which was more true to the book.

  • April 11, 2010, 2:47 a.m. CST

    Good point heks, also...

    by Merlin_Ambrosius

    There was to be an epilogue with a voiceover by Cate Blanchett which was filmed, dealing with the fates of the rest of the Fellowship of The Ring and in particular the fates of Aragorn and Arwen. I still want to see that.

  • April 11, 2010, 6:15 a.m. CST

    by Merlin_Ambrosius, Unfortunately you don't understand adaptati

    by CeejayNightwing

    Anyone who has read all of Tolkiens Middle-Earth books, understands the sheer volume of the stories that Tolkien himself could not work into the main narrative. The reason he made the appendix to the tales where to give much needed background and explanations to events he could not entirely fit into the tale. The books are what they are but in terms of structure they are not the best written books, only a total blind fanboy would proclaim they are. The film adaptation therefore needs to reformat and recompile the necessary elements to get the soul of the tale across but with a better structure to suit a medium like film that is bound by a limited parameter of time. The Scouring of the shire is not the main point of the entire tale, it is 'A POINT' of the collected tale and as important as it may deem for the books, it is not so essential for a movie adaptation nor is it worthwile considering the limited time you have to present all that is truly essential to the main story. Even when I first read the books, the Scouring of the Shire didn't work as an ending purely because it's based on the most ridiculous event of simply letting the bad guys go free despite all the death and horror they've unleashed. In short, it's not Tolkiens best section of ROTK, just as Tom Bombadils inclusion is utterly non essential to FOTR. To say I don't understand Tolkien proves your lack of vision goes no further than you spoonfed understanding of all you've read. The Scouring is badly contrived even though his point was to show that was changes everything, even that which you come home to. The film doesn't need to make that point just to fulfil the allegory of WW1. You can moan about it till the cows come home, the triumph of Peter Jackson's adaptation is more than the sum of one badly contrived scene being omitted! The sheer volume of artists and performers that came together for love of these books to manifest Tolkiens cooncepts and the soul of his story to the big screen, the insanely long years they laboured, the fine craftsmanship of all they created, the unrivalled performances for this type of genre as well as the brilliance of the music score that breathes life throughout each movie is utterly wasted on nitpickers like you who see no further than a checklist of comparisons with the book!

  • April 11, 2010, 6:25 a.m. CST

    Re: Kurt Russell

    by Toilet_Terror

    What happened to him? He was pretty great in Death Proof.

  • April 11, 2010, 6:28 a.m. CST

    I'm looking forward to the Lord of the Rings remake

    by Toilet_Terror

    that's less than 3 1/2 hours long.

  • April 11, 2010, 8:02 a.m. CST

    CJ, You Still Don't Understand Tolkien...

    by Merlin_Ambrosius

    ...and why he put the Scouring of The Shire in the book. I could go on at length quoting his letters and biographers as to why it's there, but I have a feeling that those who get it already got it and those who don't, namely you, will never get it. You are either incapable of understanding or obstinate or both.

  • April 11, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Tolkien on allegory...

    by freerangecelt

    "I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence."

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    Bad Lieutenant: New Orleans Comments (Minor Spoilers)

    by Partyslammer

    I watched "Bad Lieutenant: New Orleans" last week on Blu-ray. <p> There's some movies where you just can tell there was a lot of instability and craziness in most of the actors, the director and the overall production. When I saw who was directing it during the closing credits - Werner Herzog, the final piece of the puzzle fell into place. <p> Nicolas Cage plays...... well a "Bad Lieutenant" in post-Katrina NO. He's not a bad guy at heart, even if he is a bit of a dick but quickly falls into hardcore drugs (back injury leads to prescription Oxycontin and straight then to crack, go figure) and becomes a generally unlikeable corrupt cop while trying to solve a multiple homicide while juggling his hooker girlfriend, gambling debts, drunk dad, a dog, a child homicide witness he's supposed to be protecting and lots of other fun stuff. Cage very convincingly (or very comically) plays a completely off his nut cop to the point it seems likely he was fucked up during the production of the movie as some of his scenes are just way the fuck out there. Often, his face looks partially paralyzed like he suffered a stroke. Near the end of the movie, he's off in Joker psychotic territory while physically channeling Richard Nixon apparently. I don't keep up on whatever gossip there is about Cage's private life, but I'd lay good odds that he's been getting seriously fucked up the past decade based on some of his roles and performances lately. I fully expect his next appearance to be a YouTube video taken by a relative of him zoned out trying to eat a hamburger off the floor. <p> It's got all the elements ideally that make the perfect cult movie. Lots of once A-List actors on the downside of their careers, a story that seems to exist in its own weird yet oddly logical universe and a compelling watch ability no matter how weird it gets (the scene with the two iguanas kinda...... vibrating on the coffee table..........wtf?). Problem is, the movie for all its ....eh, charms is still a steaming pile. Biggest check mark in the "dump in the shitter" box is the retardedly "happy" ending that happens in the space of about 30 seconds that is just staggering in its suspension of belief even down to the bizarre coda in the hotel room ("I have bad days" LOL!). <p> I think Herzog's one of the most over-rated directors of all time. Granted, I've only seen Grizzly Man, Nosferatu, Bad Lieutenant and the goofy Loch Ness "mockumentary" so I know I'm missing out on whatever his best work may be (presumably "Aguirre, the Wrath of God" which I can't easily find on dvd) but even these four movies noted above are generally well regarded and I think they're all pretty bad even if they're fascinatingly quirky. <p> Watching this tonight was a lot like the first time seeing "Repo Man" back in the early 80's and maybe Showgirls in the 90's. <p> Except they were fun.

  • April 13, 2010, 12:21 a.m. CST

    BAD LIETENANT--?

    by thegreatwhatzit

    Spelling gaffe. And please can the condescension. Sample: you're assuming that Hammer aficionados aren't familiar with the Grand Guignol stuff? As for German villians, nobody beats Anton Diffring (looked like a cobra; his signature film, CIRCUS OF HORRORS, is an underrated gem).

  • April 13, 2010, 12:34 a.m. CST

    Penelope Ann Miller...

    by thegreatwhatzit

    Upon wrapping CARLITO'WAY, Miller eagerly "leaked" to the press that she had engaged in an affair with Pacino. Big Al probably got pissed. Miller was subsequently cast in unsold pilots and TV movies (including a groaner where she was cast as a ditzy hillbilly wife. Still looks good).

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  • April 30, 2010, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Bakshi's Lord of the Rings...

    by ClayG

    Yes, there are people in these talkbacks old enough to have seen not only Dreamscape in the theater, but the original release of Star Wars: A New Hope, Close Encounters, and both Bakshi's LOTR and Wizards. I loved Bakshi's LOTR, though at the time I had only read The Hobbit (cut me some slack, I was 7). Seeing it again a few years later, once I had read the books, didn't diminish its power. For what it was, it was good indeed. And ask yourselves this...had it not been for Bakshi's version, would Jackson's films ever have been made?

  • July 8, 2010, 5:31 a.m. CST

    The Natural on BluRay is NOT the Director's Cut

    by old_man_and_the_sea

    Finally got round to seeing this wonderful film. Love the mythic approach, the pacing, the acting the music. So, thanks for the recommendation Harry; without you I may have missed it. But be aware it's not the DC.

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