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Fritz Lang’s COMPLETE METROPOLIS Coming To U.S. Cinemas Starting This Month, Then To Blu-ray In November!!!!

Published at: April 5, 2010, 10:06 p.m. CST by hercules

I am – Hercules!! Amazing, glorious news!! That new 25-minutes-longer version of Fritz Lang’s “Metropolis” we’ve all be hearing about -- the one believed lost forever until two summers ago -- is coming to Graumann’s Chinese in Hollywood April 25, then rolling out to “all major markets throughout the US and Canada” beginning in May, according to a press release issued Monday! Earlier reports put the theatrical release in summer and the home edition in December. But look!

Kino International Releases the new restoration of Fritz Lang's Masterpiece THE COMPLETE METROPOLIS

New York, April 5, 2010 - Kino International is proud to announce the North American release of the new restoration of Fritz Lang's 1927 science fiction masterpiece METROPOLIS, now with 25 minutes of lost footage and the original Gottfried Huppertz score. This new 147-minute version, being released as THE COMPLETE METROPOLIS, premiered on February 12 at the Berlin Film Festival and will have its first US showing on April 25 at Grauman's Chinese Theater in Hollywood, as part of the TCM Classic Film Festival.

The film's national theatrical release will commence on May 7, with a NY premiere at Film Forum, and on April 14, at Laemle's Royal Theater in Los Angeles - followed by runs in all major markets throughout the US and Canada. The DVD and Blu-ray release is set for November of this year. Seldom has the rediscovery of a cache of lost footage ignited such widespread curiosity as did the announcement, in July 2008, that an essentially complete copy of Fritz Lang's METROPOLIS had been found.

CUTS AND MAJOR RESTORATIONS: When it was first screened in Berlin on January 10, 1927, the sci-fi epic ran an estimated 153 minutes. After its premiere engagement, in an effort to maximize the film's commercial potential, the film's distributors (Ufa in Germany, Paramount in the U.S.) drastically shortened METROPOLIS, which had been a major disappointment at the German box office. By the time it debuted in the states latter that year, the film ran approximately 90 minutes (exact running times are difficult to determine because silent films were not always projected at a standardized speed).

METROPOLIS went on to become one of the cornerstones of science fiction cinema foreshadowing BLADE RUNNER and THE MATRIX to name just a few recent examples. Testament to its enduring popularity, the film has undergone numerous restorations in the intervening decades. In 1984, the film was reissued with additional footage, color tints, and a pop rock score (but with many of its intertitles removed) by music producer Giorgio Moroder. A more archival restoration was completed in 1987, under the direction of Enno Patalas of the Munich Film Archive, in which missing scenes were represented with title cards and still photographs. More recently, the 2001 restoration combined footage from four archives and ran at a triumphant 124 minutes. It was widely believed that this would be the most complete version of Lang's film that contemporary audiences could ever hope to see. But, in the summer of 2008, the curator of the Buenos Aires Museo del Cine discovered a 16mm dupe negative that was considerably longer than any existing print. It included not merely a few additional snippets, but 25 minutes of "lost" footage, about a fifth of the film, that had not been seen since its Berlin debut. The discovery of such a significant amount of material called for yet another restoration.

This was executed by Anke Wilkening of the Murnau Stiftung (Foundation), the German institution that is the caretaker of virtually all pre 1945 German films, Martin Koerber Film Department Curator of the Deutche Kinemateque and on the music side, by Frank Stoebel. The result of their work was first seen by the public on February 12 at the 1600 seat Friederichstrasse Palaste, accompanied by a 60-piece orchestra playing the original 1927 score by Huppertz. The public and critical response was ecstatic. Regarding the quality of the added footage Ms. Wilkening has said: "The work on the restoration teaches us once more that no restoration is ever definitive," says Wilkening, "Even if we are allowed for the first time to come as close to the first release as ever before, the new version will still remain an approach. The rediscovered sections which change the film's composition, will at the same time always be recognizable through their damages as those parts that had been lost for 80 years."

Further information on THE COMPLETE METROPOLIS and annotations of all recovered scenes - as well as images, clips and theatrical playdates - will be uploaded to the new Metropolis website, which goes live on April 15. The site will be hosted at www.kino.com/metropolis.
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  • April 5, 2010, 7:51 p.m. CST

    I'd suggest all designers who are Talkbackers...

    by zinc_chameleon

    purchase a copy of this. It is a 'seed document'; many, many other films and sci-fi stories emerge from it, and owe it. No Foundation-Trantor without it, no Star Wars-Coruscant, to name two.

  • April 5, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Cool deal for film history buffs

    by D.Vader

  • April 5, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST

    metropolis...

    by stellanskarsgaard

    Am I the only one that hates this movie, despite understanding its importance. I mean does anyone except Harry really enjoy this film...especially an extra 25 minutes...it was tedious to start with... and I love me some Fritz Lang, but fuck

  • April 5, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST

    stellanskarsgaard

    by Hercules

    I love this movie. I've seen it more than 100 times.

  • April 5, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST

    cool

    by torpedoboy

    sixth cool, that is

  • April 5, 2010, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Really hope it comes to Utah

    by CurlySue

    Fritz Lang kicks ass. I wish they would do a theatrical re-release of M just for the hell of it. That would be awesome.

  • April 5, 2010, 8:29 p.m. CST

    i've watched ALIENS over 50 times,

    by frank cotton

    and not always on purpose. i can't imagine watching anything over 100 times. i will see this in the theater once, i hope

  • April 5, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Sounds like a Fantastic Fest screening!

    by Lance Rocke

    pleeeease?

  • April 5, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST

    anyone know a good site for

    by frank cotton

    film ringtones? preferably sold individually? i'm trying to find some from BRAZIL

  • April 5, 2010, 8:39 p.m. CST

    This movie is nothing but awesome.

    by John Maddening

    I can't wait to see more!

  • April 5, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST

    So that's pretty much the DVD/Blu Ray event of the year

    by SoylentMean

    I know at least one thing I'll be getting for Christmas this year...

  • April 5, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Silent films are great background movies

    by SoylentMean

    I also dig on kung fu films running in the background while I work. The point is to have something cool/interesting going on if you happen to glance around.

  • April 5, 2010, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Sold!

    by Spaz_Monkey

    I will be at the local theater day 1. And many times after. And you'd best believe I will own the movie when it's available, too. I've been drooling over this since they announced the discovery of the new footage!

  • April 5, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST

    They should fix the press release

    by Eternal Watcher

    I am guessing they'll show Metropolis on May 14th at the Royal in L-A, not April 14th

  • April 5, 2010, 9:16 p.m. CST

    stellanskarsgaard

    by Jinxo

    It could depend on which copy of the film you saw. The first time I saw it I watched a public domain crap release that just had literally generic silent movie music playimg behind it. The picture quality was crap, the music was disconnected from anything on screen. I could not figure out why I should care. Next I saw the "restored" version with the 80s pop soundtrack. While hardly what was originally intended and, now, very dated I did like it because I could follow what was going on. And 80s pop or not, the music DID add to the story. There were a couple plot points I had missed entirely on the public domain copy but that the movie specific soundtrack emphasized so that I saw what was happening. Then when I saw the previous Kino restoration, cleaned up amazingly, with a proper silent movie orchestral soundtrack? Oh my God! Fricking amazing. But even then I still knew and could see plot elements missing. The fact that those hole will be filled is very exciting (that's what he said).

  • April 5, 2010, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Restored Metropolis on Blu-ray = Blu-ray's coming of age

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

  • April 5, 2010, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Sounds long

    by JuanSanchez

  • April 5, 2010, 10:01 p.m. CST

    this is cool news.

    by RedHorseVector

  • April 5, 2010, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Please stop with this "Coming To US Cinemas" horseshit...

    by JackLucas

    When you know goddamn good and well that it will ONLY come to New York and LA. Maybe Austin if Harry pulls for it. Same old shit. Never going to change.

  • April 5, 2010, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Stellan, I love the movie... <p>But I understand...

    by StarWarsRedux

    For me, it's Thea von Harbou's script. It's incredibly preachy, didactic and insufferable in its soapy, sentimental melodrama. Naive in its politics, immature in its emotional range and stilted in its dramatic execution, it's the type of story and screenplay that would be laughed off the screen and bombarded with dozens of epic-lengthed YouTube rants that would make Mr. Plinkett's tirades look like short-films by comparison. <p>And yet, thanks to the strength of Fritz Lang's vision (and, let's be honest, the already overly-theatrical nature of a lot of silent cinema), it all works out in the end. Now that the full cut is coming out, I'd reccomend you give it another chance, but if your verdict still stands, there's no reason to keep up any more appeals. As with so many things, the only court of public opinion I really care to listen to on "Metropolis" is my own.

  • April 5, 2010, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Playing in US Cinemas?

    by Rhuragh

    But will it be a film where we get to watch some people milling around an outdoor plaza watching another audience watch the movie?

  • April 5, 2010, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Interesting news

    by MajorFrontbum

    Thank you.

  • April 5, 2010, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Projection speed

    by Dasinfogod

    Okay, but will they correct the projection speed??? The last release and subsequent DVD was still being shown at 24fps, which still renders some of the action almost comical. Am told that Lang shot it in something closer to 20fps. It makes a BIG difference, but everybody seems to think that silent films are supposed to move funny - and that's simply NOT the case. I saw the German TV broadcast of the restored print and don't hold out much hope... Folks are gonna be shocked by the poor quality of many restored inserts (nowhere near the quality of the pristine 2002 print) but the story makes a whole lot more sense. Well worth a look...

  • April 5, 2010, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Made my day

    by misplacedcircus

    When I first heard the news that the footage had been found I had thought some one was playing a joke on me. I can't wait to see this. For those of you thinking that this movie is for film buffs, I feel for you. The set design, and modeling alone should be one major reason to watch it, and for those of you that can't stand silent movies, don't be afraid to initially watch it with your own music. Oh well, I guess this is when i show my fanboyism.

  • April 5, 2010, 11:58 p.m. CST

    I get the Blade Runner comparison...

    by Cagliostro

    But the Matrix owes absolutely nothing to this film and has exactly zero similarities to it. just saying.

  • April 6, 2010, 12:59 a.m. CST

    so exciting!

    by BadMrWonka

    and if you really can't get into this film, you really need your movie fan credentials revoked. sure, a lot of the plot and performances are a little stilted, but jesus christ. this was in the fledgling stages of moviemaking. no one had EVER tried, or really even considered making something of this scope and magnitude. of course it's not going to be narratively perfect. and look at what Lang went through with all of the different versions and all that. <p>a fully restored version of this on the big screen, with NEW FOOTAGE? are you fucking kidding? not only will I be seeing this in theaters, I'm going to make an event of it, I'm gonna convince everyone I can to come with me. I'm gonna have a dinner beforehand, and a party afterhand, just to lure in people who would otherwise pass because they don't see how cool this is. <p>AWESOME!!!

  • April 6, 2010, 1:53 a.m. CST

    A little bummed

    by Connor225

    I go to college in L.A, but I have to go back in May. No way it will be playing in the my home town, it's a strictly New York/L.A/Big City kind of thing. I'll be here for the premiere in April, but I don't have 500 bucks to throw away on the TCM festival. Metropolis is one of my fave movies ever, wish I could see it on the big screen.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:59 a.m. CST

    It's a great movie... and it holds up well.

    by Zedul

    It's definitely in my top 100 of all time, and it's #2 on my silent list. (Phantom of the Opera with Lon Chaney is my all time fave there).

  • April 6, 2010, 2:35 a.m. CST

    20 fps or bust!!

    by Calico Pete

    While the original score was apparently composed presuming a 24fps projection speed, there is evidence to suggest Lang shot the film w/the intent it be projected at 20fps. See http://tinyurl.com/ykxy78z for details. Doubtful they'll change theater projectors to accomodate a 20 fps projection speed for a national release, so I'm guessing we're SOL on that front.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:06 a.m. CST

    There will be those who don't get the love...

    by V'Shael

    they'll insist people only say they love this movie, because you're SUPPOSED to say you love it. Like Citizen Kane or whatever.<br /><br />I can do without that level of nonsense.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:07 a.m. CST

    The Matrix/Metropolis

    by Jinxo

    Both films are about a world of people going happily about their lives having no idea that their world is actually powered by a second level where people are treated like interchangeable machine parts. That all changes due to the efforts of one man (okay, Neo has help but he is "The One") and the woman he loves. In both there is also a revolt by the repressed against their technological overlords.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:16 a.m. CST

    A must see

    by Mastidon

    As somebody who was at the premier, I can tell you that given the chance you should not miss this on the big screen.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:21 a.m. CST

    I'll have to buy the DVD again

    by AsimovLives

    And i do it gladly.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:22 a.m. CST

    stellanskarsgaard

    by AsimovLives

    What you feel about METROPOLIS is how i feel about CASABLANCA.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:31 a.m. CST

    StarWarsRedux is right

    by AsimovLives

    Most of the problems about METROPOLIS are derived from the script. Something that Fritz Lang himself acknowledged. In fact, Lang didn't had much love for the movie, and he was particulary embaraced by it because of how embraced it later was by the Nazi Party.<br><br>And the nazi connection is not merely incidental, as screenwriter (and then wife) Thea Von Harbow had a lot of sympathies for the party, and later joined it and was one of it's strongest advocate.<br><br>Lang, meanwhile, left Germany and he had a profound hatred of the Nazis, to the point he even made propaganda anti-nazi war movies during WWII.<br><br>Some of the politics depicted in METROPOLIS could even be said to be proto-nazi, a fact that profoundly embaraced and ashemed Lang. That the movie mannages to overcome those and still to this day be seen and admired as a masterpeice is, more then anything, a testement to Fritz Lang as a filmmaker.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:35 a.m. CST

    Cagliostro

    by AsimovLives

    You are right. Seems The Matrix connection was used just to entice "TEH KIDZ" to dig an "old movie" of the silent black and white kind. "See, it's relevant, it's the granddaddy of THE MATRIX, how cool is that?". Sad that the kids today would need "The Matrix" connection, as if the "Blade Runner" one wouldn't be good enough already.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:41 a.m. CST

    BadMrWonka

    by AsimovLives

    I love your enthusiasm for METROPOLIS, and i love your passionate defense. And yes, METROPOLIS is the first ever SF epic ever made in the history of cinema. For that fact alone, the movie has a place in history. But it wasn't the first major epic. At least 3 epic movies preceded it: BEN HUR (1925), INTOLERANCE (1916), and the daddy of them all which started the whole epic genre, the italian movie CABIRIA (1914) directed by Giovanni Pastrone. If you havne't seen the later, and since you can dig silent movie,s i advise you to check it out. Rememebr that scene in Conan where he pushes the grain wheel for years? It's taken from that movie. The movie is

  • April 6, 2010, 3:41 a.m. CST

    BadMrWonka

    by AsimovLives

    I love your enthusiasm for METROPOLIS, and i love your passionate defense. And yes, METROPOLIS is the first ever SF epic ever made in the history of cinema. For that fact alone, the movie has a place in history. But it wasn't the first major epic. At least 3 epic movies preceded it: BEN HUR (1925), INTOLERANCE (1916), and the daddy of them all which started the whole epic genre, the italian movie CABIRIA (1914) directed by Giovanni Pastrone. If you havne't seen the later, and since you can dig silent movie,s i advise you to check it out. Rememebr that scene in Conan where he pushes the grain wheel for years? It's taken from that movie. The movie is

  • April 6, 2010, 3:51 a.m. CST

    BadMrWonka (Cont.)

    by AsimovLives

    As i was saying, CARIBIA the movie is quite cool. The story is set during the second punic war between Rome and Carthage, and it's about a young roman girl, Cabiria, who is kidnapped by pirantes when her home at the base of mount Vesuvius is destrouyed by an eruption, and she is sold in Carthage as a slave. A roman nobleman and his numibian sidekick Masciste, who are spies infiltrated at Carthage, have lots of adventures trying to rescue her first when she is a kid and then later as a young woman. The movie is filled with lots of darring-dos and adventure, vulcan eruptions, two city siegues, naval attack at Siracuse and Archimedes' mirrors weapon, saving innocents from a human sacrifice inside the temple of Molock, the whole lot. The character of Maciste itself, played by Bartolomeo Pagano, is interesting, he's like a prototypical Arnold Schwarzenegger of the day. His character was so popular that it started a whole movie series about him.<br><br>Really, you should check it out.<br><br>And sorry for the double post above.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:41 a.m. CST

    I'm ashamed to say

    by inkingeekX

    I've actually never seen Metropolis, though I've always meant to. If it plays in Phoenix, I'll definitely go see it, and I will get the Bluray for sure...the version with the eighties soundtrack intrigues me, hopefully they'll put extra versions ona special edition...

  • April 6, 2010, 5:35 a.m. CST

    Whenever it opens in Boston or Providence...

    by Superponte

    I will be there. Been dreaming of this for well over 15 years.

  • April 6, 2010, 5:40 a.m. CST

    seriously STOP IT!!

    by Maniaq

    Metropolis was a good movie. I liked it the FIRST TIME and even subsequent viewings... but this make-over shit has got to stop! fucking George Lucas with his Star Wars afterthoughts they fucking RUINED Bladerunner - I can no longer watch that movie - IN ANY FORM I DO NOT WANT A MILLION FUCKING VERSIONS OF SHIT OUT THERE! FUCKING STOP IT!!

  • April 6, 2010, 5:53 a.m. CST

    Maniaq

    by AsimovLives

    What they have been trying to do sinc ethe early 80s is to bring back THE ORIGINAL VERSION of METROOLIS as it was supposed to be watched since the begining. Until now all we have had is basterdized versions and atempts at bringing the closest to the original version. Finally, we are getting the movie as it's supposed to be. We are about to see he movie as it was originally designed to look like. Nothing to complain about that, i think.

  • April 6, 2010, 5:54 a.m. CST

    inkingeekX

    by AsimovLives

    It's actually great that you haven't seen it yet. You are going to experience it for the first time. I kinda envy you, actually.

  • April 6, 2010, 6:35 a.m. CST

    Never saw it

    by Dazzler69

    I think however my first viewing should be the shorter versions, movies just don't flow too well back then. I will have to think about my favorite oldest movie ever made.

  • April 6, 2010, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Buenos Ares....

    by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder

    Anybody ever wonder if some Joseph Goebbels acolyte was the unsuspecting savior of this film? <p>Maybe smuggled it outta Germany to Argentina just a few steps ahead of the Russians or the American troops....<p>Sounds almost like an idea for a movie, doesn't it? Makes you wonder what other cinematic treasures the guy brought with him / her....

  • April 6, 2010, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Great news!

    by Phimseto

    Can't wait to see it in the theater and then own it on BLU-RAY!

  • April 6, 2010, 8:24 a.m. CST

    How does one love me some Fritz Land...

    by Series7

    But hate METROPOLIS? Thats sort of like saying, I love me some George Lucas, but I hate Empire Strikes Back? <P> Unless you are just some huge Dr. Mabuse fan?

  • April 6, 2010, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Lang*

    by Series7

  • April 6, 2010, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Metropolis is a technical milestone but...

    by alienindisguise

    does drag its ass in the pacing department. German cinema is alot like Japanese cinema where certain things work for the native audience but foreigners are left saying "what the fuck is this?" excluding the know it all film geeks who like to believe they have it all figured out when they're just as lost as everyone else is. They're as annoying as hippies.

  • April 6, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Unmatched

    by The StarWolf

    For all that I was raised on some of the classics such as 2001, METROPOLIS still holds for me some of the most memorable moments and scenes in cinema. The Moroder version had the arena sequence looking outworldly in a way no other film has managed. And the set design for Joh Fredersen's office? Great stuff! And not a trace of CGI anywhere. ;-)

  • April 6, 2010, 9:19 a.m. CST

    I hope Ottawa counts as a "major Canadian market"!

    by Royston Lodge

    I don't wanna hafta take the train to Toronto!<p> On the other hand, a first-class train ticket to Montreal isn't actually that expensive. A weekend in Montreal with a Metropolis screening would be a nice getaway...

  • April 6, 2010, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Maniaq

    by Koyaanisqatsi

    Blade Runner was already brilliant but there were some continuity problems and some poor editing in one scene in particular. For the Final Cut there were no added scenes and only a few instances of changed dialogue. The Zhora chase sequence actually makes physical sense now and there were few alternate takes. The movie is essentially the same but tightened up and made more presentable. It's essentially the same movie, I don't understand how anybody can compare it to Lucas' redone Star Wars OT and THX-1138 The George Lucas Director's Cut. You are not right in the head.

  • April 6, 2010, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Royston

    by The StarWolf

    Unfortunately, they'll probably be showing it in some Gargantoplex. What they ought to do is to show it in the renovated Mayfair theatre which retains the look and feel of classy old-time cinemas. It would be a perfect match for a silent era movie showing.

  • April 6, 2010, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Metropolis

    by Series7

    Is probably the only silent film I would recomend non movie people to watch. Its just an amazing film. <P> Also M is a movie I would recomend to everyone. If you are too ADD to deal with a silent film then at least check out M. You'll be amazed just how good it is. That movie could be put into theaters today and would probably make bank.

  • April 6, 2010, 9:58 a.m. CST

    McGooCain

    by The StarWolf

    Perhaps. Then again, perhaps not. I know people who aren't into comic books and certainly not super hero comic books. I took them to see IRON MAN as being a comic book film for people who do not like comic books and they loved it.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Seriously psyched

    by ByTor

    I've been psyched for this since the footage discovery was announced. <P> I'll be pre-ordering the Blu-Ray as soon as it's available for pre-ordering. <P> @inkingeekX: music clearance issues have kept the Moroder 80s version from being released on DVD -- well, that and the Murnau foundation re-asserting copyright on the film. I doubt you'll ever see it. Best bet is to hunt around for the Laserdisc.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST

    If "Metropolis" is the only silent you've ever liked ...

    by Hercules

    You've got to check out Buster Keaton's "The General."

  • April 6, 2010, 10:58 a.m. CST

    McGooCain

    by Series7

    Sorry I guess I meant like not hardcore movie people. People who are willing to watch stuff outside of the Box office top ten, but not on their own.

  • April 6, 2010, noon CST

    McGooCain

    by Series7

    Well what I'm saying is that Metropolis is a good film to EASE people willing to try silent films out. Like they'll see it and go, wow that was really good and then will not be so fearfull of silent films in the future.

  • April 6, 2010, 12:43 p.m. CST

    No love for Nosferatu?!

    by Royston Lodge

    I would think that Nosferatu would be a good pick for those who think Metropolis is too slow.<p> The pacing in Noseferatu is far more "modern", for want of a better term.<p> Plus, one's prior familiarity with the general Dracula story can help the silent-movie-virgin appreciate it more.<p> Even though it's not silent, M might be a good jumping-off point for any Fritz-Lang-virgin out there. I believe that it's a free download at www.archive.org.

  • April 6, 2010, 12:46 p.m. CST

    StarWolf: I wouldn't wanna see it at the Mayfair.

    by Royston Lodge

    The Mayfair has a big screen and is a beautiful theatre, it's true.<p> But the seats are GODDAMN uncomfortable!!!<p> I'd rather watch Metropolis standing up outside in a cold Berlin winter's night being mocked online by mouth-breathing Talkbackers than sit through it in the Mayfair's shitty seats.<p> Montreal, on the other hand, has some awesome repertory theatres.

  • April 6, 2010, 1 p.m. CST

    The Big Question: Will it be converted to 3D?!?!

    by Royston Lodge

    I mean, really, that's why the post-production 3D process was INVENTED!!!!<p> Heh heh heh . . .

  • April 6, 2010, 1:01 p.m. CST

    20fps vs 24 fps

    by Royston Lodge

    Why not insert frames here and there to approximate what it SHOULD look like, rather than having the action look like it's going too quickly?

  • April 6, 2010, 1:21 p.m. CST

    McGooCain

    by AsimovLives

    I got to know Cabiria because i did a leap of faith and bought the DVD. I wasn't disapointed. Of course compared to movies today, it's rather slow moving, but that's part of it's charm. It truly is a movie of another era. A 95 years old movie. Think about that. But it's strengh are worth to know it. The production design, though many times resemble an opera production, are stunning. And suprisingly historically correct. The numibians, carthage's long standing allies, are shown as very influenced on egypcian architecture and costumes, which they were. And the special effects makes one wonder how they pulled it out with the technology of the day. But more interesting of it all, you can see with Cabiria that this is the movie where all the epics start, this is the daddy of them all. And what a start!

  • April 6, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Friutz Lang's M is one of the best serial killer movie ever made

    by AsimovLives

    It pratically wrotethe book on the genre. And it's one of it's top representatives. I remember how in awe i was when i first saw it.<br><br>When we see the mvoies that Fritz Lang made, it reads like an impossible list, the amount of masterpieces and classics he made is just unbelievable. Anybody who doesn't list Frizt Lang as one of the best is a fool.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Somebody in here saw Häxan? WOW!!!

    by AsimovLives

    When i lose all hopes and get convinced that AICn is nothing more then just a den of JJ Abrams's fanboy retards, along came somebody who claims to have see such an obscure but fascinating movie like Häxan and challenges my preconceptions. I guess this is why i persist in coming here.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Royston Lodge

    by AsimovLives

    doesn't work like that. Besides, that's bastardizing the original. There'a a solution, actually, and it's by frame speed convertion. But it's a costly process, specially for such a lenghty movie like the original METROPOLIS at it's full lenght. And it also leaves the image slightly blurry, or the speed of the action of the characters never look totally right. You can't have your eye totally fooled. Still, it's all a matter of adjusting yourself. After a while, you don't even notice much, if you are tolerant to older movies.

  • April 6, 2010, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Has anybody here saw Lang's THE NIEBELUNGS movies?

    by AsimovLives

    It's a two movie saga based on a popular german myth and the famous Wagner opera. It's made of part one The Death Of Siegfried and part two The Revenge Of Kriemhild. Still visually stuning.

  • April 6, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Metropolis' script is fine

    by reflecto

    It was the first of its kind and its story is immortal. Simple, yes, over the top, yes but so is the whole film and it's AWESOME. The running time blitzes by for me because the film is so incredible. Anyone who doesn't get it doesn't have any business on the site, or watching films.

  • April 6, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Incidentally, Lang's Destiny is also excellent

    by reflecto

    A must-see.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    McGooCain

    by AsimovLives

    "I guess it proves that one can like some of the work of JJ, while not all, and not be a fanboy retard"<br><br>Misguided then. And "should know better" springs to mind.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:28 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives: Waitaminutethere. That don't sit right with me.

    by Royston Lodge

    By your logic, converting a 24fps movie to 30fps video would be "bastardizing the original".<p> What's the big difference between going from 24fps to 30fps and going from 20fps to 24fps?<p> Huh? Huh?!?!<p> Check and mate! King me! Fore!!!!

  • April 6, 2010, 3:30 p.m. CST

    The 3 hours long version of CABIRIA sounds sweet!

    by AsimovLives

    The twloh ours version already feels complete for anybody who has seen it, but to think there's even more stuff is quite good news. And of cours,e Scorsese would present it. He's such a movie geek! He really loves this old italian epic stuff, as he showed with his documentary "My Voyage to Italy". There's an italian epic from the 50s he speaks very highly in it which i have forgotten it's title and have tried to find out. He tells of it as the first roman epic movie he saw othe rthen an Hollywood production, and what struck him was the sense of realism the movie had, as if it had been shot right then, instead of looking like a studio. It was when Scorsese started admiring italian production designers and cinematogrpahers and their approach to historical movies, which later influenced his THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Royston Lodge

    by AsimovLives

    I donpt know everythign about the tech involved in it, but from what i have read about it, the process is not alike what happenswhen one processes 24 framed celluloid into 26 or 30 frame rate video. The process seems far more complicated. Don't really know exactly why, but it is. And the end result is never a naturalistic frame speed and actions from the resulting image.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Ok, I'll let you live...

    by Royston Lodge

    ...for now.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:35 p.m. CST

    I'd like to watch Fritz Lang's "Frau im Mond"

    by AsimovLives

    AKA, "Woman In The Moon". It was the movie which invented the rocket launching countdown, decades before NASA used it.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Royston Lodge

    by AsimovLives

    You mean that i have to deactivate the bear trap i had prepared just for you? And the snakes pitt? And the piranhas moat? And the automatic firing poisoned arrows traps? And the week starved siberian tiger? And the horny baboon?

  • April 6, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    It won't be the same ...

    by Geekgasm

    ... without that Freddie Mercury song from the Giorgio Moroder version.

  • April 6, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Oh, you can leave the horny baboon...

    by Royston Lodge

  • April 6, 2010, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Frau im Mond is on YouTube

    by Royston Lodge

    I didn't take the time to check if the entire movie's there, but it looks like it:<p> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaVLaD4vfBc (remove spaces as required)

  • April 6, 2010, 3:59 p.m. CST

    No, it's not the whole movie.

    by Royston Lodge

    Mea culpa.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:11 p.m. CST

    not sure if anyone heard but ...

    by ag 721

    when they found the dupe neg the argentina film commission (sorry not sure if thats right) had the nudity scenes removed so still this is not the real final version there is one more restoration that will happen for sure and not just the new fancy version but one that will add more length to it. I think that deserves some sort of response from hrec no? come on chime in I just want to hear what you think

  • April 6, 2010, 4:35 p.m. CST

    I own the Criterion Edition of Häxan

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

    Pretty fascinating film. Picked it up for the alternate version with Burroughs narrating. Think I caught it on IFC or something and was compelled to find it.<p>So, when will the JJ Abrams hateboy wake up from relentlessly flogging his scapegoat like it owed him something? (Rhetorical: don't answer)<p>Oh, and for the record, I personally think MI:3 is a total piece of shit, so you can lay the fuck off acting like you know me or what I fucking like already...and I definitely don't need or want you to explain your bizarre fixations to me. Let it the fuck go man...you'll be alot happier...as will everybody else I'm sure.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST

    TheUmpireStrokesBach

    by AsimovLives

    I'll stop flogging it when it stops existing. It's what i do to all bad movies.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    McGooCain

    by AsimovLives

    God, i envy you. Well, i can boast that i saw METROPOLIS, DOCTOR MABUSE and "The Tiger of Eschnapur" in the theater. METROPOLIS with a live piano performance.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Also own the Criterion DVD of Häxan

    by AsimovLives

    Criterion rules. they also released a movie whihc wheni first saw it made a profound impact on me, and for a long time had no homevideo release: FIRE ON THE PLAINS. One of the most intense and devastating anti-war movie ever made.<br><br>Criterion rules.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Hell, my ROBOCOP DVD is from Criterion

    by AsimovLives

    You just can't beat that.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:49 p.m. CST

    I bet I could beat your Robocop DVD...

    by Royston Lodge

    ...no matter what company's name is on it.<p> Put me in the octagon with it. We'll see who wins.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Royston Lodge

    by AsimovLives

    You could try... emphasis on trying. And the horny baboon is asking for you.

  • April 6, 2010, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Wait, you never said it could speak!

    by Royston Lodge

    Fuck that. I get enough of that at home.

  • April 6, 2010, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Well in that case...

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

    ...you'll obviously be quite busy jerking off that hate-boner of yours for the rest of your life. So, please, if you'd just quit whipping your dick out around everybody we could all just try and get along...but your insistence on sticking it in everybody's ear makes them uncomfortable and totally disinterested in actually considering your points. Perhaps you could come up with some new, less tired, less condescending schtick?

  • April 6, 2010, 5:18 p.m. CST

    no one beats criterion robocop

    by ag 721

    period the only released X-raed version available and its out of print try beating it! BAM Cage match robocop v. Royston lodge

  • April 6, 2010, 6:07 p.m. CST

    McGooCain

    by AsimovLives

    FIRE ON THE PLAINS is a must see. If you really dig older japanese cinema, then i say that chances are you will really like it. It's released on DVD by Criterion.<br><br>another great japanese movie from this period is called THE HUMAN CONDITION. It's actually a huge 3 part movie, set during WWII in Manchuria, where an idealist japanese young man learns, the hard way, how corrupt, untrusting and malevolent men can be. I have only seen the first part, which itself last 3 hours. But it's one hell of a movie, for what i saw. Of course, Criterion recently released it in DVD and blu-ray, i believe. I must have it, eventually.

  • April 6, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST

    FIRE ON THE PLAISN has one of the most dramatic, harsh...

    by AsimovLives

    ... dare i say depressing endings i have seen. And yet it all feels so right. Makes one have an enterily different view of the harships the japanese soldiers faced in WWII, where their worst enemy was not so much the american troops but their fellow comrads and the hostille natives. The movie doesn't even portait the hero as saintly or a victim, though he is indeed a victim of circunstances, as everybody else. No movie for pussies or Michael Bay fans (which is the same thing), that's for sure.

  • April 6, 2010, 6:11 p.m. CST

    TheUmpireStrokesBach

    by AsimovLives

    Yeah i could... when i stop findign some drolling idiot who can stop pretending there's quality where there's none.

  • April 6, 2010, 6:19 p.m. CST

    "as the director originally intended"

    by Maniaq

    means Greedo shot first <p><br />and whoever asked, yes I preferred the first version of BR that came out (whatever they're calling it now) and you know I didn't mind all the flaws and the voice over and the happy ending - although the first time I saw it, as a kid back in the 80's, I didn't think it was all that special... <p><br />but insisting on cleaning up the continuity errors and adding scenes or whatever - that shit didn't "make it even better" for me - all it did was highlight the myriad problems I was previously happy to overlook BECAUSE I ALREADY ENJOYED THE MOVIE JUST FINE - so now I'm starting to agree with my original assessment that it wasn't that great a movie and I've seen it enough times already and if I don't see it ever again that's just fine with me - I guess that makes it "unwatchable"? <p><br />whatever <p><br />if you need to call me "not right in the head" in order to reconcile my views in your own head, you go for it. <p><br />must be nice living in your tiny little world where everyone agrees with everything you believe - but what do I know? I'm "not right in the head" apparently...

  • April 6, 2010, 6:21 p.m. CST

    McGooCain

    by AsimovLives

    I think the italian roman epic i mentioned above is this movie called FABIOLA. Don't know if there's any DVD release.

  • April 6, 2010, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Blade Runner works better without the voice over

    by AsimovLives

    That's it. The wonders of subtlery and leaving things to the imagination.

  • April 6, 2010, 7:04 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by BadMrWonka

    I've definitely seen all of those films (thank you film school) and love them. I meant, that having the balls to make something of this scale that was purely fantastical and removed from history. I think A Trip to the Moon is the only remotely comparable thing, and even that is really only comparable on a basic thematic level, not at all by scale.<p>I just love it whenever someone says, "Hey, this hasn't been done before, got a few million to spend on it?" and someone says yes! I just lament too often that I live in a time where innovation is really just making things a little easier, a little more comfortable. we haven't REALLY changed the automobile in forever. we've changed computers, but really, in my lifetime (I'm thirty) we've just made things a little faster, a little smaller. <p>I wish sometimes I could have been around for the birth of rock and roll, the birth of cinema, the advent of immunization, the birth of flight, etc. Metropolis reminds me not just of the times when something truly unique could be made in cinema, but also a time when people's hopes for the technology of the future were almost limitless.<p>What a shame it would be if we plucked one of them up and took them here. no jetpacks, no flying cars, no tubes between skyscrapers (well, maybe in Malaysia) no robots doing our bidding. just a faster, smoggier version of 1920.<p>but I want to sit in the cinema and watch Metropolis and pretend, and I'm excited I get to do that!

  • April 6, 2010, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Speak directly please...

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

    Who are these drolling idiots you speak of? Do you findign that they lack subtlery?

  • April 6, 2010, 9:29 p.m. CST

    FINALLY, cool news.

    by Uncle Stan

    This site rarely has any really "cool" news.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Royston

    by The StarWolf

    I gather that problem was addressed during the renovation where they replaced the old, uncomfortable seats with newer, more comfortable ones.

  • April 6, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Damn you, Michael Bay!!

    by BurntOrange

  • April 7, 2010, 2:32 a.m. CST

    BadMrWonka

    by AsimovLives

    I udnerstand exactly what you mean. and as soemone pushing 40, my disapointment about how the future turned up might be even bigger then yours. Except the internet, which is beyond anything anybody ever dreamt.

  • April 7, 2010, 2:34 a.m. CST

    TheUmpireStrokesBach

    by AsimovLives

    Anybody who praises JJ Abrasm's FRAUD TREK as a good movie acts like a drolling idiot who is doing his master's biding, without thinking. Like a robot. Acts completly divorced of intellect. Like zombies.

  • April 7, 2010, 4:43 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay's METROPOLIS

    by AsimovLives

    imagine that movie remade by Michael Bay. We already had Bay's atempt with an intelligent movie with THE ISLAND, which he failed spectaculary (d'uuhhh!). Imagine him making a remake of a movie which had even futher thematic ambitions.

  • April 7, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST

    StarWolf: Oh, great, now I have to let YOU live as well?!

    by Royston Lodge

    Next someone's gonna tell me I have to let EVERYBODY live!!!<p> What's a sociopathic misanthrope to do?

  • April 7, 2010, 12:16 p.m. CST

    McGooCain

    by AsimovLives

    I refuse to watch FABIOLA until i get a way to watch the movie in it's full lehght.

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  • April 7, 2010, 6:49 p.m. CST

    it's on YouTube

    by ackbar

    The new version of Metropolis is on YouTube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IBA0UO-PCE It's a low-res recording of the European tv broadcast.

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