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Ridiculous!!’ LOST 6.10!!
I am – Hercules
Last week we learned Magnus Hanso, ancestor of Dharma Initiative moneyman Alvar Hanso, was the captain of the Black Rock, and that Jacob brought him (and the imprisoned Black Rock passenger Richard Alpert) to The Island.
Tonight we get 6.10, the last big Jin/Sun episode.
Why did Sawyer ask about the random door on Widmore’s submarine? Why is he so attuned to Penny Widmore’s scent? We should learn more about this next week.
6.15, “Across The Sea,” is rumored to deal with how Jacob and his buddy came to the island, and the secret origin of the Frozen Donkey Wheel Time Machine.
6.16 is titled “What They Died For.” I’m guessing this series ends with Total Frakking Destruction on The Island, while the Los Angeles doppelgangers live on.
6.17-18, the series finale, is titled “The End.”
ABC says of tonight’s episode, titled “The Package”:
Sun and Jin desperately continue their search for one another, and Locke confronts his enemy. Guest starring are Alan Dale as Charles Widmore, Kevin Durand as Keamy, Anthony Azizi as Omar, Andrew Divoff as Mikhail Bakunin, Sheila Kelley as Zoe, Fred Koehler as Seamus, Chad Donella as desk clerk, Natalie Garcia Fryman as Ms. Kendall and Larry Joshua as Burditt. Written by Paul Zbyszewski & Graham Roland and directed by Paul Edwards.
Omar and Keamy died grisly deaths in the fourth season finale. And died grisly deaths again in this season's Sayid-centric episode.
Mikhail Bakunin was the one-eyed guardian of Dharma’s communication station, The Flame. He claimed that at the age of 24, he replied to a newspaper advertisement titled "Would you like to save the world?" and was recruited by a "magnificent man." He eventually ended up arriving on the Island around 1993. He died a grisly death in the third-season finale.
Seamus and Zoe, introduced two weeks ago, work for Widmore, but are less scary than Keamy and Omar. Fred Koehler appeared on 92 episodes of “Kate & Allie.” Sheila Kelley appeared on 37 episodes of “L.A. Law.”
Fryman and Joshua are making their “Lost” debuts.
9 p.m. Tuesday. ABC.
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Fuck! Yes!
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Omar was last seen being shot and killed by Sayid in his flash sideways, not in season 4. I'm guessing we'll see the events leading up to Jin and Sayid meeting in the freezer.
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She drags this down. Fine looking girl, but nothing else
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Was that Sun lying dead at the end of that 'Next Week on Lost ...' clip?
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...really going to boil down to just a riff of Stephen King's The Stand? Good standing on one side facing the other evil side? A cliche battle to the death? I certainly hope not.
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I was so tempting...
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It was, oh hell..anyway great show
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From coaxial to Latest news. Why? Is the show true value finally been fully accepted? THe shield taclkback should have had the same treatment. Just wanted to say that and drop a hi for all the losties.
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geez i hope they don't screw this up
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And will surely be posted here soon. Beware!
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He had such a lame, inexplicable death. It made no sense for several reasons. Reasons in which I'm too drunk to remember.
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I admit, the last half-season of BSG really makes me jumpy about how they might fuck up the ending of "Lost", but let's be honest, BSG was done shortly after the atmo-jump and sort of limped along with a couple of good episodes, a lot of hanging plot threads that were tied up by five-year-olds with some crayons and construction paper and a genuinely good spot to just end it with a big ol' knee to the nuts like we used to get from Rod Serling (the 4th season mid-season cliffhanger where they found nuked Earth -- and yes, it was supposed to be fucking Earth, Moore and Company can save that other bullshit for the tourists). Fortunately, they already answered the big question with "Lost" -- that the island is essentially either Hell or Purgatory -- and answered it in a way that doesn't cheat the rest of the series. Hell, they could leave a few things unanswered at this point and I'd be okay with it. Just don't make Walt an in-head Cylon or have it turn out that the numbers permeating the series were actually the mathematical translation to the melody of "Hair Of The Dog" and I'll be fine.
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It has happened before... it will happen again.
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wow, I thought they canceled this years ago<p> <center>:p</center>
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March 30, 2010, 2:14 a.m. CST
What does Lost and Return of the Jedi have to do with each other
by Tom_Bombadil
I am curious why the Return of the Jedi You Tube was put on a Lost Page? Anyone have an answer?
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That is all.
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Where were they towards the end of last weeks talkback? Get your FIRST on and then get the fuck out trolls.
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Han Solo. I dunno, but the look on his face was priceless. And JimboJones is right, it's time to stop reading this talkback until June.
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March 30, 2010, 2:37 a.m. CST
TROLLS: Be constructive. Follow the thread till Monday
by ToughGuyRizzo
I dare you
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You can go now Michael. POOM!
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Will Jack bone Claire?
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..actual song "Hair of the Dog" or have Desmond 'flash back' to be a founding member of Nazareth..<br><br> Darlton might get a Royston Lodge No-Prize.<br><br> Heart breaker, soul shaker<br> I've been told about you<br> Steamroller, midnight stroller<br> What they've been saying must be true<br> <br> Red hot mama<br> Velvet charmer<br> Time's come to pay your dues<br> <br> Now you're messin' with a<br> A son of a bitch<br>
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Richard was thinking that when he got to the Island. When the Earth was still flat.... <br><br> I'm surprised he claimed that last ep on the campfire, but as D&C have stresses, it's definitely Purgatory. Hell, doubt it. Eden, that would be interesting s we'll still see what part Adam & Eve play
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Won't be long until the Hague-roaches arrive unfortunatey, we need much better bug spray
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Best day of the week, and unfortunately they are going quickly
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Something tells me Widmore is on the same side as MiB. Remember Ben Linus banishing Widdy scene? Ben thought of himself as a Jacob disciple, and saw Widdy as bad news seeing him as the opposite side of coin (MiB disciple) So Widdy could be MiB ally.
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In that short scene in the Sayid Flash Sideways, Kevin Durand was really good and looking forward to seeing more of him. Obviously involving poor Jin and how he got from the airport to the fridge
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Richard should know whats up with the Island having travelled off and on all those years. Who cuts hair on the island btw?
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Up to knock the LOST bandwagon peeps?
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Always good to see more Sun, hottest Lostie for me, (yes obsessed with Asia girls), have seen bits of her this season so far but clearly not enough. <p> Then again we haven't seen Des (one of my favourites at all as yet, so can't be too disappointed there). <p> Yunjin's new husband is one lucky guy
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Would request any decent people to shout out if they see them so others don't, can imagine Ricky Martin's bride to be will post some.
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Jacob's an angel and God did it.
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..Sun. Jin. Mikhail. an epi titled 'The Package' ..endless possibilities.
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And it had nothing to do with subtitles. I just can't identify with such a repressed austere culture. I can't imagine any father treating his daughter the way Sun's father did, especially if he wanted her respect. Attitudes like that don't command respect. They command a smack-down, via a poisoned home-made dinner.
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just play myst to the end and fuck up a few times and you will have watched the final season
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seeing as how the Wishmaster is back?
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until the finale.
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When you consider that "The Constant" is one of the all-time best LOST episodes, its a bit odd to say the least that a character who the auidence is so attached to gets only a few scenes in season 5 and one scene so far in season 6! Whats going on Darlton?! <p><p>As for whats in the locked room seems obvious to me...its Dr Artz. He's in every other episode, might as well write him back in these last few!
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Has anyone ever succeeded in being 4th, 8th, 15th, 16th, 23rd and 42nd?
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Counts?
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answer to the life universe and everything
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Not sure if anyone else covered this. I've read most of the whining about the Black Rock before getting to see the episode just now. A few points.<P> The ship was as high as the top of the statue, the combination of wave and ship took out the statue. I don't see a problem there.<p>There is no point where the OFFICERS on the ship say they never saw the island during the day. It is a fellow prisoner that sees the island right before they crash. The officers could very well have seen the island during the day, with no intention of landing there and were driven back to the island by the storm that night.<P> As to why Richard was saved. Two possible reasons. He's praying when the smoke monster comes at him OR because he was the only one alive who was in chains and no threat.<P>Just throwing it out there. I'm sure the writers have fucked up before and will again and I hope they come through in the end. But, I don't see any reason for the complaints about the issues above.
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End of Season 5: Black Rock arrives on a sunny calm day and the MiB talks to Jacob on the beach about killing him. Season 6 "alternate reality": Black Rock arrives during a huge storm and MiB talks to Jacob in the jungle about killing him. Same 2 destined events but happening in 2 different ways. Aye brothaaaa!
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This theory also implies that in one reality the statue is buggered, in the other it is not. Which means (possibly) that when they were time jumping in Season 5 and saw the statue, it could have been the "other" reality.
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Just read some spoilers and I know who dies and who lives...
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...will we get to see how he lost an eye?
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Challenging your willpower. Now this willpower issue is 2 fold. 1. Do I look or not? 2. Do I be a prick and post it here? Please be responsible with spoilers. If you don't remember lostfan108, that post caused AICN to delete a talkback. SO... Let's not lose this gem of a website.
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Good to hear you all. Well...most of you anyway. <p> And Herc's theory that Island people all get fucked and LA X'ers live is total bullshit. That would honestly ruin the show. The Island storyline is the important one.
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March 30, 2010, 7:08 a.m. CST
I Wanted to Say Something About The Black Rock/Storm Controversy
by Crow3711
I don't think a lot of you have any idea how getting to shore in a massive, 1800s pirate worked. When Jacob and MiB sitting on the beach on a perfectly lovely day watching the black rock, it was still at lesat 2 or 3 miles off shore. Fairly close nautical wise, but it takes a ship with nothing but sails, that weighs that fucking much, an incredibly long time to beat the tide and actually get to shore. A long time as in, like an entire day. It became night out before they managed to break through the tide, and combine that with the islands wonderful ability to go from peaceful to batshit insane storm weather...I don't find it unrealistic at all to believe all of that happened and makes sense. I will admit it seems stupid that made such an obvious change in time and weather between the two, because they sohuld have known most people will throw a shitfit and don't really know how long a boat can take to get inland...I'm just saying, its not really a huge continuity error or anything like that. It makes sense. Just like it makes complete sense the black rock would smash that statue. Those ships weighed an ENORMOUS amount. It would have smashed that rock to pieces. If you dropped that ship on a modern day office building the thing would probably fall over for gods sake. <p> Anyway, so, in my opinion, that all makes sense, even if it wasnt done in the most elegant manner. For my money, the way they should have done is during S5 finale, after their little conversation on the beach, as MiB starts to walk away, it just starts to drizzle a little a bit, and Jacob looks up at the sky then back out at the boat. We see it just beginning to rain, effectively bridging the gap between what we saw then and what we saw last week. Just a little bit of rain would have made it perfect. WHy they didn't do this? Who the fuck knows. But it still mostly works without it. I just think that would have been an elegant and painless way to make it clearer.
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Yeah you might read a spoiler saying a character dies. But we're near the end of the show and that's only to be expected. But with the LA X story you can't count on folk staying dead, plus we have cameos from dearly departed cast members. So as long as you avoid spoilers for the finale itself, you could read bits and pieces on the next half dozen episodes and not really be much the wiser I shouldn't think. Because we don't yet know what death means on LOST, and we don't know where the LA X story fits in with the island, temporally speaking. Even within the flow of specific episodes, the odd filming report or script speculation might not give the proper insight into how it will play on screen. So I agree that there's plenty of spoilery stuff out there that's rather involved, yet having read a lot of it myself I don't particularly feel any the wiser what to expect - which is odd, because there's a lot of information floating around by now. The other thing I noticed is even the folk leaking seemingly detailed spoilers are being a bit cagey about revealing certain twists and secrets, so perhaps the stuff out there isn't as big as it seems. This is after all LOST in the back stretch of the final season. Some folks seem to be in denial thinking no more characters are going to die. Well they did every other year.
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One last thing that I would like to add about whether or not the ship could knock over the statue. If the Black Rock had just been thrown on its own into the base of the statue: no more ship, statue fine. But, combine the ship with a huge wave and have it hit at the top of the statue: bye, bye statue. Especially given the construction techniques they had, it's not like it was a supremely solid structure.
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I think it will be, but I have huge reservations, and think it will be conditional. Again, why not do both. Feint that LA X is the ending, but have them act in that story to restore the island past. Because otherwise, to me it's a problem that so many of these generic flashback of the week spin-off pilots taken on their own are pretty empty and hollow and filled with cliche, owing to being farmed out to inferior writing staff. Taken as a whole they don't make a satisfying coda. So the premise must build to some action that feeds back into the island story, I think. The metaphor with the smashed bottle really seems to be confirming what folk suspect that the LA X is what happens when Locke succeeds in defeating Jacob and leaving the island, and so there has to some how be some deliberation about which time line is right or wrong, hey maybe that lighthouse could come in handy for that, do you think? I wonder if with Desmond we'll see the supernatural elements of the island bleed back into the LA X story? Because at the moment in LA X we're back to the early days of season one where nobody really has reason to believe in magic. Desmond on the plane - representing the whole oddness of the new scenario in itself and then the island reveal underwater - and Ben talking to Roger are so far the only nods that everything isn't normal, within the continuity of LA X itself.
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much like the convoluted time line of the flash forwards in Season 4, I don't think it will make a lot of sense until you can watch it in the right order, and with hind sight.
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Let's get this one up on the most posted talkback list before last weeks richard alpert talkback disappears. If we can also keep the Lost advertising story up, that will be three top lost stories. We will rule all that we survey!
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Every time I look at that creepy fuck, it's like somebody cloned Lars Ulrich, then decided said clone had too much lips and sliced them off with a razor blade. He definitely gives off a "I used to walk around with dead flies and mice in my pocket when I was eleven because I was 'curious', and, as an adult, I still may be doing so." Hopefully, when the cameras stop rolling, they take the fucking knives off of him.
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Nice theory - however Team Darlton came out in a podcast during the week and claimed the storm 'suddenly whipped up' shortly after the scene we saw in the Season 5 finale. No alternate realities there unfortunately...
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are we going to see ALT-Keamy while he was still breathing, cooking eggs for Jin - is that the implication here?
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"You pirate fucks with your pirate fucking ship fucked my cocksucking house it was three fucking thousand years old fuck fuck fuck you cuntsucking fucks better have good fucking insurance you motherless fucks or I'll fucking fuck you up you fucks." <p> Admittedly Jacob did kick Richard's ass and try and drown him, but that was only cause Richard came at him with a knife. On the whole he was quite reasonable about the whole thing. In fact, listening to him explain that he brings people to the island, I wondered if Jacob was a bit sick of the statue for some reason, and decided to do a bit of remodelling. <p> There's probably a deleted scene where MIBs all "I like what you've done with the place" and Jacob's "I got these pirates to do it on the cheap. I think they're chained up in the jungle, you should ask them to do your cave."
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Another non-issue. Can't believe I've been listening to this nonsense for a week on these talkbacks.<P>We obviously have a lot of people who have never traveled much to other countries. <P>Why is no one complaining that the Losties are calling him 'Richard' when is his name is clearly 'Ricardo'.<P> Because English speakers would refer to him as Richard.<P> And someone whose native tongue just might be Latin....would refer to him as Richardus.<P>FFS.
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Looks like you got your wish. Three LOST talk backs in the top ten. Wonder how long for.
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According to that scorecard thing tonight's is supposed to be very good. They have been on the money so far. Gives me hope as I usually do not care for Jin and Sun.
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I'm not gonna say, that we can't trust anything they say, however, wouldn't their best play be to lie their asses off to us? We know already that they've lied about time-travel and other mysteries. And, I'm not saying it in a bad way, like they're dicks for doing so. We asked them to tell us a story and then in the middle started asking questions that would give away the end. They kinda have to lie sometimes in the podcasts and interviews. Again, I'm not saying, all they do is lie and we can't trust anything, I just think we should take EVERYTHING they say with a grain of salt. By the way, this post is only peripherally referring to the Black Rock stuff. I think they were telling the truth with that.
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I may be remembering things wrong but wasn't there some sexual harrassment issues with Henry Ian Cusick which explains his cut back roll in seasons 5 & 6. I definately remember something of that nature. Which sucks because Desmond and Daniel were the best thing about the show. I was hoping we'd get to see Desmond on the Black Rock last week just to mess with our heads. But alas that was not the case.
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What scorecard thing? I only know the one for after episodes have aired.
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What will LOST spend the revenue on? $900k on groceries for Hurley. $900k on shampoo for Kate. $900k on cigarettes for the Smoke Monster... I think the advertising thread is the perfect place to discuss what they'll do with their share of the cash.
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He was accused of sexual harassment, but I don't remember anything coming from it(no pun intended).
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the man in blacks people will go to war with jacobs people and there will be a lot of deaths who survives is anyones guess
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Phew! thanks man. Its always hard when you think your heroes have done wrong. Though a spin off about Desmond traveling through time having sexy adventures would be pretty great.
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And that is fun.
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Have also confirmed on their podcast Desmond will pop up in sometime in the next 2 episodes. My guess is he is locked up on Widmores sub.
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There is a scorecard of all the episodes up to 6.16. I saw it on DARK UFO, I do not have the link but it is out there. Tonight's ranked very highly, only slightly below Ab Aeterno, which was a great one IMO.
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So thats what happened to the panda!
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The internet will shut down around 11 pm on May 23rd when the finale ends? lol
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Remember him? Would be a blast to see him again tonight. Everybody was so convinced back in season one that he was important, ha ha. Well, looks like by hook or by crook, by fish or by foul, we're back at that airport...
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I would love a sideways flash of Paulo running into the bathroom at the airport to do his business.
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No spoilers from me here. If anyone wants to know spoilers it's very easy to find them...
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http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2010/03/spoiler-sources-episode-scorecard-610.html#axzz0jfOv0Ypa
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would be one of the all time funniest TV moments ever. Someone make that happen stat.
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I stand corrected, but it was one of the higher ranked episodes of the last 7 or so. That could be a bad thing though.
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Thanks. I'm on there all the time. I don't know how I've missed that.
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Hurley's now very much integrated into the mythology, so I'm expectant his episode will have plenty of island purpose. Also, they have that nice reversal in the LA X, so could use that to do a sweet counterpoint to Numbers.
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Make it so. If not already shot, I am sure we could raise funds to pay for a reshoot just to see it.
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I hope they explain how and why he sees dead people. Doesn't really make much sense. Miles I can see having powers as he was born on the Island and his dad was a scientist who could of been responsible for his abilities.
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I know they have not finished shooting so we need to get the ball rolling here. Paulo taking a dump as the last scene would be the funniest thing of all time!
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March 30, 2010, 8:59 a.m. CST
Based on the rankings it looks like 7 of 9 are strong episodes
by AshokForgiven
Im really shocked that Happily Ever After is ranked so low. Isn't this supposed to be marking the return of a HUUUUGE character? I wonder why insiders didnt like it. <br><br> And does anyone know who's centric "Last Recruit" is? Or why it was so poorly liked? DarkUFO has it ranked LOWER than Kate's episode. ??? <br><br> Oh well, I am hoping those 2 were disliked due to foilers, and it seems the other 7 eps were rated quite highly, hope the final stretch is great!
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I wont say who it is about but I was SHOCKED when I saw the score. How could they screw that one up?
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March 30, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST
Sayid's a Vulcan, brought to the island from AbramsTrek.
by Royston Lodge
We're through the looking-glass here people.
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..seeing that intro really made me suddenly sad with how much I miss that show..
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* Expands the size of the comment area (configurable). Now you can see more than three words of your comment at a time.<p>You can do that by dragging the bottom right hand corner of the 'Your Comment:' box.<p>Other stuff looks really useful like the ban list and user name thing. Will try this at home, not allowed to use Firefox at work...
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You missed this one: http://vimeo.com/6660925
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Oh man, Ji Yeon was never meant to be!
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Now I see what the fuck’s in front of me and I don’t pretend it’s somethin’ else. I was fuckin’ her and now I’m gonna fuck you if you don’t piss me off or open your yap at the wrong fucking time. The only time you’re supposed to open your yap is so I can put my fucking prick in it. Otherwise you shut the fuck up. <p> He’s gonna die sooner or later. I mean, he’s making a fucking jerk of himself. I mean, why go on with that? Who’s gonna benefit from that, huh? No, you gotta kill it and put an end to it. You don’t linger on about it. You don’t fucking go around weeping about it. And you don’t behave like a kid with a sore fucking thumb. . . . You gotta behave like a grown fucking man. You gotta shut the fuck up, don’t be sorry, don’t look fucking back, because, believe me, no one gives a fuck. <p> Can you believe that I may have stuck a knife in someone’s guts twelve hours before you got on the wagon and we headed out for fucking Laramie? No! Because I don’t look fucking backwards. I do what I have to do and go on. <p> Before she ran the girls’ orphanage, that fat Mrs. Fucking Anderson ran the boys’ orphanage on fucking Euclid Avenue. . . . My fucking mother dropped me the fuck off there with seven dollars and sixty some-odd fucking cents on her way to sucking cock in Georgia and I didn’t get to count the fucking cents before the fucking door opened and there was Mrs. Fat Ass Fucking Anderson, who sold you to me. I had to give her seven dollars and sixty-odd fucking cents that my mother shoved in my fucking hand before she hammered one two three four times on the fucking door and scurried off down Euclid Avenue, probably thirty fucking years before you were fucking born. <p>
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No, actually McGoo or Vikki, I forget which one posted it last week.
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I'll be hanging around the OTHER LOST TB until the episode airs to hopefully miss any spoilers posted on this page.
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That's bizarre. More so bc they don't even mention that they used Shutter Island clips.
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last week, when MIB was giving his sales pitch to Richard, he said something to the effect of "He stole my body."<P> So, at some point did Jacob steal MIB's form? Was it just another lie, or did MIB become "the man in black" because his old buddy had stolen his skin?<P> If that's the case, what was Jacob's previous form, and where did MIB get his MIB form from?<P> I pretty much read the entire tb's and figured someone would have brought this up by now.
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Your fuckin' story sounds awful fuckin' familiar.
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Hey man, I'm from GA and know exactly where Euclid Ave is! Didn't get the refrence, but humrous anyway.
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I was certainly talking about that last week, because what struck me is the irony that if you take what MIB says literally - he betrayed me, he took my body, my humanity - and imagine the ghost of John Locke walking around the island today... well Locke might say that the man in black betrayed him, took his body, took his humanity. <p> Throughout the episode we were asked to question competing figurative and literal interpretations of the island. But it's an intriguing notion, what if MIB once looked like the man Jacob looks like now? MIB and Jacob pass those black and white stones between them. Are we to infer that the question isn't just which is good which is bad... is it possible MIB and Jacob have at times switched places? Figuratively, or literally. <p> A question I also have is if Locke might come back into this. For instance, if he were to die, perhaps as the outcome of whatever revenge Sawyer attempts to exact on Cooper, maybe at Locke's wedding. I think being dead in both realities has consequences on the island. I even half wondered if Isabella dying in Tenerife was a side-back - Richard doesn't get what the wants, a family in the New World with Isabella, because he sides against MIB in 2007 - and in the original time line she dies on the island, thus resolving some of the quandries about alternate versions of the Black Rock arriving, and why Isabella has a presence on the island, the necklace, etc. It's preparing the groundwork for explaining things like Locke, Christian, the whispers etc. And also allows the very first scene of the season five finale to be a covert side-back, much like the season three reveal, but more of a slow burn, set in motion before we get to The Incident.
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I'm sure it's been talked about. But I was thinking that the FlashSideways is going to end up being like the Donnie Darko situation, in which [probably] Jack is Donnie and makes the ultimate sacrifice. He leaves the FlashSidways world after sacrificing that life to become the new Jacob in the normal Lost timeline. Everyone in FlashSideways world is then on only one timeline, and when Jack "dies" there everyone, EVERYONE feels (just as in Donnie Darko) that something has been lost to them, though they may not know what it was. Whatcha think?
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March 30, 2010, 10:05 a.m. CST
Jacob might somehow trick MIB into being his replacement...
by rosasaks
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March 30, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST
I think you people are over complicating things needlessly
by V'Shael
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March 30, 2010, 10:17 a.m. CST
That wasn't the Black Rock in the season 5 finale!
by ImYerHuckleberry
Jesus I've seen so many ridiculous explanations for how a ship in calm water during the day could suddenly turn into a ship in a storm at night. Jacob said he brought others to the island. That's what it was.
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In agreement with you on the Locke parallel. It would be nice to see John Locke reclaim his body, maybe that could happen if MIB were to reclaim his? Don't see how he could get pushed aside otherwise.<P> But Jacob's physical body burned in the foot pyre, so that may not be an option. And since FakeLocke kicked the body into the fire, he must not have been that concerned with that vessel after all.<P> Considering the large numbers of people who were murdered and were murderers on the island, the large numbers of ghosty types present could very easily explained by their violent ends. Doesn't explain Isabella's presence. Unless her soul is tied to Richard or the necklace.
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No. It wasn't. Because Darlto said in the podcast that it was the black rock, and the storm whipped itself up over the course of the day. As I said, it takes pirate ships with only sails a long fucking time to get to shore. The Island is capabale of day/night end of the world weather in an instant. Stop trying to be smarter than everyone. You are just wrong. It was the Black Rock. Everyone knows it. Sorry for any harshness. I'm just tired of the whole conversation. it all made sense if you think logically.
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Works like a charm. I have a feeling this will make AICN browsing a damn site nicer than ever before.<br />If you're looking for ideas for the next thing to code? How about a "confirm" button when posting to the talkback? Or a configurable 2 minute delay or something? That way, the user can cancel the post before it happens. It's the next best thing to an EDIT button, you know?<br />
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If you go back and watch that scene, two things are clear.<br />1) Jacob is warning Smokey, not threatening him.<br />2) Smokey is concerned. He isn't pleased. He isn't going "Whoohoo! Now I can leave!"<br /><br />I think Smokey will want to take care of Widmore before he leaves the island. I don't think Widmore is on his side. Or Jacob's side. I think Widmore is on Widmores side. He's a dick.
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He is a dick. And I think he doesn't want to kill Smokey so much as find a way to control him.
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I haven't read any spoilers from other sites or anything, but it seems pretty obvious to me that Desmond's appearance in LA X is meant to parallel Faraday's appearance in the Season 5 premiere. It's basically a "What the f*ck" twist that will keep you wondering until the context later. In season 5 Faraday didn't appear until The Variable (episode 14). I think Desmond will appear sooner then that but the actual scene/explanation for his appearance in LA X may not occur until the finale....
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And so he was warning Smokey that someone bad is coming, that the Island really DOES need protecting, and now its up to Smokey to do the right thing.
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I hope we see that twitchy bastard in the flash sideways, even if he is just in the stall next to Paulo.
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Don't read if you stay away from this stuff.<P> First, lines from last week.<P> Jacob to Richard - That man who sent you to kill me believes that everyone is corruptible because it's in their very nature to sin. I bring people here to prove him wrong.<P> Hurley to Richard - You have to stop him from leaving the island because if you don't we all go to hell.<P> I looked up something on wiki, and it said "Most people on earth will die. God's anger, hatred, and wrath are poured out over humanity and the earth at this time. A series of violent events as prophesied in Daniel 9, Matthew 24, and Revelation 4-19 will occur."<P> That, of course, is Armageddon. Armageddon - where most of us will go to hell. Because it's in our very nature to sin.<P> So I'm of the opinion now that MIB/Flocke is actually the manifestation of the 2nd coming. <P> I wish I could remember the exact biblical story, but one of them tells the tale of a righteous man....and not being able to find one. As I remember it, God is about to cast down his fury and the person he's talking to keeps asking not for this to happen. His bargain is to find a number of righteous men. God agrees. The number keeps getting smaller. The morale is there are none without God. Might have been the story of Sodom and Gamoria.<P> Jacob specifically said he was not the devil. Again, Jacob said to Richard "I bring people here to prove him (MIB) wrong."<P> So if I'm right about who MIB is, and if Jacob is not the devil, could he be the protector of man's free will? <P> Did you know there was a Roman god of Freedom?<P> Actually, she was a goddess.<P> wiki - Libertas (Latin for Liberty) was the Roman goddess and embodiment of liberty.<P> I also found this.<P> The Romans always held that Liberty is a goddess who guides the hearts of men and inspires them to courage and hope for the future, she secures their freedom and fights with them to protect her blessings.<P> In the American mind "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness..." are an indistinguishable troika of the goddess of Liberty.<P> Liberty celebrates the victory of men and women over the limitations of their own life and breaks the chains that hold them in one condition (servitude) and brings them to a new condition (freedom). <P> So could it be that Jacob is..................................Lady Liberty?<P> Could it be that there's a metaphor here for the US and Religious freedom? But not only the freedom of religion but the freedom from it as well. That Jacob is protecting the world from the rapture. Because he thinks we can make the right choices even if we don't worship a deity.<P> Or maybe I should ask them to up my dosage a bit.<P> ;->
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Why is he so interested in the island unless he's an integral part of keeping the smoke-genie in the bottle? He obviously knows what is going on. And what's behind that door in his sub?
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Probably my fav character on the show. Hope he gets a triumphant return.<P> *fingers crossed*
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He must have some final part to play in all this. After all it was his suggestion to detonate Jughead. Which apparently led to the FlashSidewaysWorld. If he doesn't figure in somewhere else, what a waste!
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I know it doesn't always apply to this show but sometimes it does. The ship at the beginning of the season 5 finale was supposed to be the Black Rock. It is idiotic to think they would just put another ship of the same era in there for no apparent reason. The weather obviously got worse as the day went on. Please stop overthinking yourselves people. Just like the moron who tried to claim that Jin really died in the freighter and it has been MIB since then...
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Thesi? How many will be written on the different ideas put forth from this little TV series. I predict more than one.
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He would have known Richard Alpert was immortal. He probably wants that. Most incredibly wealthy men do.
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March 30, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST
Its NOT idiotic to think its a different ship in S5 premiere
by D.Vader
Occam's Razor has nothing to do with complex shows like LOST. And if you watch LOST, you should know by now that they switch things up on you ALL the time. So whether or not it IS the Black Rock in the S5 finale, you can't say it HAS to be bc of Occam's Razor, especially when the show has a habit of misdirection.
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Why'd they fucking go out their fucking way to fucking have the fucking doctor's fucking butler fucking go fucking fetch some fucking blankets fucking standing in the fucking doorway fucking seeing Richard fucking kill the fucking doctor in a fucking fight about a fucking necklace while the fucking butler fucking stood in the fucking doorway fucking holding fucking blankets like a fucking picnic?
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But which is which? And as in B5, neither was truly all that "good." Shadows came across as bad. But Vorlons were puppet masters.
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And hy would he want immortality. He's pretty powerful out in the "real" world. I think it must be something else. But I'm all for more speculation!
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I'll agre with your about on a show like lost it isnt always the simplest answer is the best answer...but with 7 episodes left, and no hint of there ever having been another pirate ship that we've seen on the show, can anyone honestly say they expect them to reveal that it was another ship at any point? Absolutely not. There is no time to do something so pointless. Occams Razor does apply here I think. It just is what it is.
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I didn't expect there to be "answers" regarding that other ship in this season. What I saw that scene as doing was A) setting up the time period and B) showing that Jacob had been bringing people to the Island forever. Just as the dialogue revealed he had been doing so, so had the action (here's another ship now!). <p> Sure, I thought it might be The Black Rock, but I also had a feeling it was another sleight of hand from the producers, bc nothing about that scene suggested any way for the ship to end up in the middle of the jungle.
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Man Who Enjoys Thing Informed He Is Wrong <p> The Onion <p> January 25, 2010 <p> LOS ANGELES—George Himmelsbaugh, 32, was informed Tuesday that he was incorrect in enjoying a thing he had been deriving pleasure from for many years. Authorities in the field informed Himmelsbaugh that, although he believes his appreciation of the thing to be a matter of subjective personal taste, any positive feelings or satisfaction taken from this are by definition erroneous. Furthermore, sources reported, Himmelsbaugh does not in fact enjoy the thing, but has merely been convinced that he does by the influence of others who also claim to enjoy the thing but who must be insane or developmentally disabled if they actually do. Himmelsbaugh has responded to the information by endeavoring to enjoy the correct things in the future.
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Its not crazy or stupid for someone to believe that ship was NOT the Black Rock bc the only evidence to the contrary is "Occam's Razor".
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The reason the blanket toting butler was pointedly included in the scene was to provide a "witness" to Richard's murder of the doc.
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I think that's what he is up to, that's what's in the sub. He's got his own version of Jughead that someone needs to "detonate" and he had to bring it by sub. Is it alive?
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You misunderstand. The blankets was a call back to Michael shooting Libby.
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This is pretty awesome and would answer a lot of questions I had about our favorite Constant: http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/2010/03/jacobs-failsafe-by-jr.html Also what happened to Desmond in LA X? He was on the plane, and then he wasn't?
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How messed up would that be! Maybe he's the answer to everything. Or he's Jacob.
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Let's see if this script works.<br /><br />Did it work?
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Damn<br /><br />Fine<br /><br />Scripting<br /><br />Indeed!
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I have a bad feeling that one will die.
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In the last scene, Jacob finally triumphs over the MIB, as the Island sinks under the weight of all the polar bears. The last scene freezes, and slowly morphs into a comic book cell. The camera pulls back from an open comic book, being finished by Paulo while sitting on the shitter at LAX. The title of the comic book ? "Stupid Fanboys Action Comics #1". Huzzah, fuckers.
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...is if Paulo USES the comic....
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This is what my life revolves around now. Isn't that sad? Also trying out the Maltheus AICN script. We'll see if it works or not.
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Camera zooms out from the island and we find out the island is actually a microscopic world living inside Paulos toilet!!
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its like being here without actually being here. :P
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Even better ending. Paulo rips the page out, wipes his ass with it, flushes it and the camera follows the paper through the drainage system where it dumps out into the ocean and is eaten by a shark. With a Dharma logo on it. Fade to black.
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Effing brilliant. Good post rosasaks. <p> We can all agree on one thing though, right? Tom Izzo makes his living making people at ESPN and CBS look stupid. <p> In Izzo We Trust!
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sounds a lil bit like Al Swearingin to me.
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POOP. Lost
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Glad you guys like it.<br /><br />V'Shael, I suppose I can add a confirm dialog when you hit submit, but I'll make that feature configurable for those who don't want it. Maybe I can include the comment for review along with the confirmation. I'll add it to the todo list and get to it when I have a little more time.<br /><br />I also want to change the page title to show the talkback title so that we have some idea which one we're posting to. And perhaps add a feature to show the last 5 or so talkbacks you've posted to, in a another table just under "Top Talkbacks".
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Jacob. All signs seem to point that way.
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Can we see this, please?
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It certainly isn't idiotic at all. It crossed my mind before last weeks episode. I agree with the stuff about Jacob having roughy people for a long long time and could have been some other group. I just feel the way things played out that it, at least is most likely the BR. Agree to disagree this time. According to my scorebook you are always one of the people I agree with or at leastsee eye to eye with. Your theory is cool with me man
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Again, I thought it was The Black Rock in the finale, but I totally understand if it wasn't bc LOST switches things up all the time. The way the Black Rock suddenly found itself in a thunderstorm at the Island last week was a bit bizarre considering what we had just seen.
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Your name is Vader. Jacob brought people for a long long time, not roughy them, whatever that might mean. I hate talkbacking on my phone.
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I'm only asking because its really weird in a way, because my handle since I was like 10 has always been Crow3711, just kinda stuck, but my actual real last name is Crowe....so I just thought it was funny you happened to get my name right...even though people don't typically spell Crow'e' that way. Hahaha, sorry, really random and stupid...just wondering.
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What you are referring to is actually a parable that Jesus told his disciples. A man is in hell and begs God to allow him to go and tell others and spare them the torment but God says that not one of them is righteous and will all die and go to hell, even if they're warned. So technically it didn't happen, it was just a story Jesus told, so...there you go.
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I thought so too at first but it makes sense considering the sudden storm that Lapidus and Saymond's helicopter hit in The Constant, no?
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Saul Bass titles <p> Onion Post <p> FF Plugin <p>
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I know that the spoilers are out there, I know that some of you want to discuss them. I also know that there are some individuals who might want to post them here. I beg and plead you not to. <br> <br> I have read and posted the DarkUFO stuff on Room 23. Its going to be some awesome stuff. There is a comments section for that post. Please respect others and talk about it there or another spoiler discussion area of your chioce. I would really like to protect those who don't want to know this stuff. <br> <br> I know that in saying all this its like a red flag for trolls to post stuff, but please don't. I made a please for you to discuss this stuff and there are many other places if you don't care for Room 23. Thank You.<br> <br> http://lostroom23spoilers.blogspot.com/2010/03/darkufoodi-major-major-spoilers.html
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I do not want any spoilers, but can you just say if you liked what you read? Also we will accept any Paulo at the LA X bathroom spoilers here so feel free **Crosses fingers**
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Im still trying to absorbe it all. I think that its going to be very awesome and very happy and sad. Lots of answers, Lots of cameos, Lots of suprises. I hope thats vague enough.
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rosasaks' "loopy cunts" post is a fuckin' take down of one of my Blow-Job Monologues which occurred during one of my few fuckin' moments of expressed vulnerability on Deadwood.
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Would've been perfect if he'd called it Foot Island instead of Mysterious Island
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That Onion thing was funny!
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Re: Jacob / MIB = Vorlons & Shadows - I've sort of thought this before - Jacob = Vorlons, MiB = Shadows - but only in this sense: For the first few years of B5, the Vorlons were portrayed as mysterious, but in such a way that we'd assume they were good. The Shadows portrayed in a way that we'd assume they were evil. But when we finally were told what the shadows were about, and what the vorlons were about, it was pretty clear that neither was anything at all like pure good, and that neither was pure evil either, but both could be interpreted to be pretty evil. Just like on Lost - when we first learned about Jacob, he was presented to us somewhat ambiguously, but more or less as someone who is good. Although we didn't learn about MiB himself until late in the game, his manifestation, the smoke monster, has been presented as pure evil. I think we'll see its not nearly so clear cut, just like in B5.
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sank the island to make room for the new hyperspace bypass. You've been given ample notice to prepare for it.
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I will not spoil anything either, but what I've read is awesome. Not only do we get answers to some major questions, but alot of answers to minor questions are in there. Also, so many people with the argument, " They can't fix this mess", are gonna eat their words. I haven't read or seen anything about the finale, and I'm trying to keep it that way, but even without knowing the absolute end, this is gonna blow peoples minds.
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awesome
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its like jumping ahead a few chapters in a book and reading a few sentences out context. Makes no sense and probably reduces your enjoyment when you do finally get there. Little things, like episode titles, fair enough. But I want to watch the last few eps knowing nothing about what happens, I've even started avoiding the promos. <P><P>Oh and where is motherfucking DESMOND?!
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That's pretty funny, deelzbub, and I was actually thinking of Red Dwarf in terms of nice, crappy endings. As for Vorlons/Jacob vs. Shadows/MIB--agreed, MachThree. You have pretty much summed it up. And of course in B5 you had a time traveler who made everything "happen" (I'm not going to say who because you need to watch the whole series for that one) just like Desmond. Jacob is every bit as manipulative as the Vorlons turned out to be, by going to their past and pushing the Losties in the "right" direction just as the Vorlons made the Telepaths.
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Obviously Red Dwarf and Hitchhiker's Guide are 2 diff. things. Just clarifying I did know what I was talking about. My point was, let's hope for a NON Red Dwarf style end.
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It is good to hear this is going in the right direction. I have not been in love with the flash sideways but I trust DamCar and I look forward to the last 8 episodes. It has been a hell of a ride!
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The show glides to an epic ending with Jack donning a black and white jacket, walking down a ramp hearing "All You Need Is Love," meets a bunch of freaky people that say "I! I! I!" then he sees HIMSELF in the Lighthouse, which is actually a rocket, and... Oh. Been done.
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Hahaha, nice. <p> Be Seeing You :)
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March 30, 2010, 12:58 p.m. CST
a Tale of 2 Christians, from 2 Timelines, on 1 Island as the Nex
by BillboeFett
How come we've seen Christian decked out in full suit and tie, his burial clothes, and then also Christian in more casual wear? </BR> How come we've seen Christian barefoot, but then also wearing Jack's shoes? </BR> How come Christian already seemed to be deep in the jungle, alive, walking around, directing Vincent to help Jack, only a few seconds or minutes after the crash? </BR> Is Christian continually changing his wardrobe and choosing to go barefoot at times? </BR> I submit it because there's 2 Christian Shephards on the island. One from the traditional 815 timeline, one from the ALT universe timeline. </BR> Remember that if you die on the island, you are alive in the ALT. So the hint was: what does it mean if you die in the ALT? Obviously, you are alive on the island. </BR> We know Christian died in the ALT, and is missing. Where did he go? The island.</BR> When Hurley came upon Jacob's cabin in the season 4 premiere episode "Beginning of the End", people noted that Christian Shephard was rocking back and forth in the chair, with Jack's white tennis shoes on. But! Who was the mysterious person at the window peering out at Hurley? Some said it was Locke, some said it looked like Desmond's eye, even Jack's eye.</BR> I submit it was--Christian Shephard's eye. Up until the ALT, people didn't even imagine the idea that there could be 2 of something.</BR> So I'm saying both Christians from both realities were in the cabin, hashing out their differences, or possibly working out their plan, depending.</BR> This also solves the "how did Smokie get off the island to appear to Jack at the hospital, I thought Smokie was trapped on the island" mystery. It wasn't Smokie. It was Christian from the ALT. I would also submit that Charlie appearing to Hurley was from the ALT.</BR> Its one reality encroaching on another.</BR> Wet Walt? Wet Walt was from the ALT.. possibly the underwater island. Wet Walt from the ALT.</BR> Characters talking backwards? (Walt, whoever phoned Kate, Locke in the promo, etc.) from the ALT.</BR> Wet Locke from the sub? Wet Locke from the ALT.</BR> I don't know if the two Christians are both evil, both good, one evil/one good, or neither. They could be like a proxy for Jacob/MIB.</BR> Remember the deleted scene from "Shape of Things to Come" from s4? Two Bens? One lying in the desert where he landed in Tunisia, and another one already back from some mischief on a horse, finding his secret stash.</BR> Perhaps that was deleted as a "taste of things to come" because they didn't want to let the cat out of the bag that early on.</BR> There's always 2 of everything, to steal a phrase from LOST's "sister-show", Fringe.</BR> I submit that one of the two Christians (or both) was trying to influence events on the island in such a way to impact the end game. Sure, MIB may have wanted Locke to move the island to invoke time travel to prove to past-Richard that future-Locke was special and ready to lead the Others, to get him to leave the island to die so that MIB could pretend to be him and use his credentials to get close enough to Jacob to have Ben take him out. Sure, MIB may have wanted this, but I suspect Christian has an even "deeper magic" to call forth in this plan, knowing that yes, Locke may have to die, yes, MIB may have to rise to power, but this will also make certain events come into play that will ultimately put an end to all this, having it end once, and in a good way.</BR> One of the missing pieces, I believe, to the larger puzzle of LOST, is how a) some things just never made a whole lot of sense, and I'm not talking about how the writing changed, if they planned everything from the beginning, etc., but actual intentional mysteries that didn't seem to add up, and b) there seems to be a vague fog of some other unseen force/power on the island moving about, manipulating things.</BR> I again submit its because there are not only 2 Christians roaming around on the island, but other players and events from the ALT are moving about to influence the end game.</BR> I haven't completely worked out all the kinks of this, but this is to get people thinking and discussing and seeing if we can keep going somewhere interesting with this. </BR> I also wanted to say this fits perfectly in harmony with my previous theory that the ALT is not really an ALT timeline at all, but is a new karmic "incarnation" cycle. In other words, its another go-round for the reincarnated main characters of LOST. </BR> The core 815ers are the original reincarnated island gods.</BR> I used "ALT" and "timeline" to make things simpler.</BR> Canton Rainier on the side of Ben's van in s5, right?</BR> If you'd like to read that theory in full (with EXCELLENT interaction from responders), please check it out here:</BR> http://tinyurl.com/ydvcg2s</BR> Anyways, I am saying, the flash-sideways scenes we are seeing are not occuring simultaneously to the traditional 815-crash timeline. They're occuring either after, or before.</BR> What about the numbers? Locke-4, Hurley-8, Sawyer-15, Sayid-16, Jack-23, Kwon-42. I submit this is how many times they have been reincarnated and have been to the island. It always ends the same, but everything else is just progress. </BR>It may also be the number of times Jacob selected candidates and MIB took them out. Perhaps others besides Jacob and MIB selected them, and THIS time, say, Jack's 23rd time, is Jacob's selection. </BR>Some of you have cleverly noted that Jack moved from seat 23 in the 815-crash timeline to seat 24 in the ALT timeline.</BR> So how can the two reincarnation/rebirth life cycles occur one before the other, but the island events can include characters from both (2 Christians?) </BR>Because the island moves THROUGH time, and space, right? The island is independent/outside of time and space. This makes sense, as it would then be the nexus of not only those timelines/incarnations/circles of life, but the nexus of ALL of them. </BR>Like, if Jack has been reincarnated 23 or 24 times now, Jack #12, and Jack #7 could both land on the island and possibly interact with each other.</BR> I don't want to lose anybody here, so this next part will be the most complicated I'll get: </BR>about 2 years ago there was a rumor about the season 4 finale saying that older bearded Jin came out of the temple and stopped Locke from fighting with Richard Alpert over leadership of the Others. The big secret was that there were Elder Others in the temple that no one had ever seen before. </BR>Aside from people speculating recently that many parts of that rumor were true and played out in season 6 (Flocke beating up Alpert in front of the Others, or that Dogen could be mistaken for an older Jin, from an onlooker far away that didn't know any better)... </BR>aside from all that, the theory was that time travel was explaining a TON of stuff, including.. </BR>who were the mysterious Others who kidnapped the kids at night, that Eko fought off? Answer: The core 815ers did it. </BR>How come the Others had files on the 815ers that seemed to know so many things that people couldn't possibly know: answer? The 815ers wrote them themselves. </BR>How come we heard Hurley's voice repeating the numbers on the french 1988 island landing? answer: it was Hurley's voice, and he recorded it way in the past. </BR> How would all these work out chronologically? We think the present time on the show is 2007-2008, but in actuality it is more probably 2014 or something. That would've been the big shocker.. that 90% of the show took place in the past. </BR> The flashbacks were just further in the past, and the flash-forwards were just more recently set in the past. The 815ers learned their lesson from all the previous time-loops where they kept making things fail and made things worse, and this time they were manipulating certain events to ensure it all came out right in the end. </BR> They were supposed to be much older, and hiding out in the temple, and we would see them all come out and this would be a major shocker. </BR> Obviously, this theory is most surely wrong, but I think elements of it still held some truth: </BR> What if instead of it all being about time travel, and timeloops, its all about the reincarnations, the life-cycle loops, the ALT universes, where people from the other "timeline" have come to the island to secretly manipulate events to ensure a certain end-game.</BR> 2 Christian Shephards would be the easiest sneak-peek at this MAJOR reveal. In no way could you show that any other major character was doing this until possibly the final episode. </BR> Remember the original idea they had for who Hurley was going to see inside Jacob's cabin? Himself. ABC nixed it. </BR> What if that was Hurley from the "ALT"? </BR> Remember, we have to account for the TWO separate individuals Hurley saw inside the cabin, and we know one of them was Christian Shephard wearing Jack's white tennis shoes. </BR> You also can't say that was Smokie off-island at Jack's hospital because he is trapped on the island. </BR> P.S. I submitted this theory on DarkUFO and thought I would submit it here. Thanks for reading.
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It is kind of odd how the ratings have played out during this final season. But when you think about it, it's not really all that surprising. There are a lot of people who gave up on this show a couple of seasons ago.<P>That being said, I going to predict a ratings surge for the finale. I got a feeling that all those people who gave up on the show will tune in for the big "answers" and will probably thank themselves for missing all the filler and needless speculation.
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I keep seeing discussion about the passing of the stones .. but it was obvious to me that jacob gave the white stone to mean .."I won Richard" ... and vice versa .. I beleive they are trophys for who is "claimed" and for bragging rights
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I know Darlton pretty much said the ship in S5 is the Black Rock, but there is one problem I have. When Jacob and MIB are having the conversation on the shore, MIB tells Jacob "Do you know how bad i want to kill you" and Jacob tells him "I know" or something like that, but if that ship was the Black Rock, then when MIB talks Richard into trying to kill Jacob, Jacob is genuinely surprised that MIB sent somebody to try and kill him. If that ship in S5 was the Black Rock, then that would be a huge continuity error.
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Darlton said it was NOT the Black Rock, and that other ships came to the island.
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Yeah, I don't get them either. Why would you willingly spoil something for yourself ahead of time? Are they simply that impatient? Or are they sensing a need to jump ahead in order to see if the outcome is worthwhile?
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You're wrong. In the podcast Lindelof and Cuse confirmed the ship in The Incident was the Black Rock and that Jacob brought it to shore in a storm shortly after.
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Could've sworn I read an interview with Darlton saying "yes, many other ships have come to the island before and after" and this was explaining the discrepancy betweeen the clear day and the dark stormy night. </BR> Oh well.
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Can't stand watching it from episode to episode. They want to watch it all at once, like on Roku or get the season DVDs. Can't say that I blame 'em. Nothing like a weekend marathon, doing 16 hours of lost a day.<br /><br />Yeah, baby!
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Looking forward to this week after last week an 1800s wooden ship collided with a statue and ended up 10 miles inland in the Dark Territory. Somehow it managed to travel over the western mountain range after hitting the statue. Jacob is "magic" enough to create the wave but couldn't help that the ship hit the statue above his home. Oh, and somehow the crew survived and the ship remained in great condition with masts and rigging intact. Looking forward to more bullshit "magic" answers!
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I don't. I freaking hate Sun at this point and hope she dies. I laughed every single time I saw that clip of her screaming when Jin didn't get blown up on the freighter.
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Sorry Big Al, that was intended as a reply to Asimov Lives in the other thread, telling him... well, you get the drift! Didn't mean to step on your toes! Perhaps you could treat us to your monologue to the dead Indian scalp?
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The discrepancy between the clear day and the dark stormy night can be explained because they had no idea they were going to have the ship collide with the statue when they filmed The Incident. If they did, at the end of the scene they could have easily had Jacob look into the sky and shown it getting dark. That would have shown planning. So far, I don't see any evidence of much planning on Lost.
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I kind of hope we see more of him, but the fact he looks more like Samuel L Jackson at this point than a kid kind of kills that whole thing.
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The only reason Jin and Sun are still on the show at this point is to die. My money is on one of them getting killed just as they're about to reunite. It's cliched but then there has been so many shitty Afterschool Special/Lifetime movie cliches on Lost this season that this seems like a lock. Besides, who gives a shit about their "reunion". It's been dragged out too long.
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I don't think there's an official canon MAP of the Lost Island. I don't think they'll release one before the end of the show as to make sense of all the locations in as coherent as possible way.
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There will be a Canon Map in the Lost DK book thats coming out in August.
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Dude, chill a bit. Do you remember when Faraday did his experiments with the rocket? There was a 15 minute time delay. </BR> Remember when the doctor washed up dead on the shore, but was still alive on the freighter? </BR> Do you remember when Desmond and Sayid left the island and it only took them a few mins to land on the freighter, but from the island's perspective they were gone a whole day? </BR> Do you remember that it was night when Lapidus on the Ajira plane was getting ready to land the plane and then all of a sudden it was daytime? </BR> This fits in PERFECTLY with the Black Rock seeing it as rainy night, and crashing into the island where its daytime and sunny.
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I know there's no official map but fans have determined locations from the maps they've shown and the distances discussed on the show. A couple things... In Exodus Artz says the Black Rock must be 2 miles inland. That's where it's estimated on fan maps- 2 miles inland from the east shore. 2 miles from the west doesn't even put you over the western mountains. Besides, the Dark Territory where the BR is said to be is between the mt ranges. Also, the Blast Door map shows the Black Rock as being on the east side of the island. They obviously had no plan for this and fucked up trying to piece it together. Shocking I know.
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hey Paul. Please read my theory above and let me know what you think :)
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that would be this one: </BR> "a Tale of 2 Christians, from 2 Timelines, on 1 Island as the Nexus"
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its Walt in the sub
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so how do you guys think the map from way back coincides with what we now know about the island/Dharma?
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It could well be true. I have felt for awile though that The Christian in his suit has been Ghost Christian and that the plain clothes one was MIB. Ghost Christian was in the Mobisode and the one that Jack followed in White Rabbit, He was also the one that appeared to Jack off island MIB was the one that appeared to Locke and Hurley in the Cabin. Not sure about down at the Donkey wheel though. But you could be right.
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Cause it's 2007 and Walt should be 13 years old. The actor looks around 30 and he could be in the NBA.
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What are the odds we find out something interesting about it in the ALT? Not holding my breath but it would be nice.
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I think I heard somewhere that next weeks episode is a Desmond episode, so I could easily see the cliffhanger moment from tonights episode being the reveal of Desmond locked in that room on the sub.
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I like your theory about the day and night thing with the ship.
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He is Dwight Howard - boom - LOST!!
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March 30, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST
Thank You paburrows and theotherjosh for giving your non spoiler
by nopix
Sounds great.
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Thanks
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Didn't recognize the Buffy theme (or Veronica Mars for that matter). Good for me!
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Am I supposed to recognize this song?
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Can also be explained by Jacob's magic lighthouse powers. Perhaps he built it so that normals can see as far away as he and Smokey. Kind of like gods looking down from the heavens. As Lost frustrations go though, this one is at the bottom of my list. Same with the skeletons. I can't say I care who they are.<br /><br />However, I am real anxious for them to start explaining the island's ancient civilization. I was hoping to have gotten some of that last week, but it turns out Richard's just a young pup.
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Keamy making a 3 egg omelette for Jin tonight. Hopefully it is a western omelette with a side of bacon.
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Harlem Globetrotters / Gilligan's Island crossover?
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Thanks for the clarification
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And actually, that makes me more convinced. If Jesus said in the parable there are no righteous men and if MIB believes the same......<P> Just sounds too good to be a coincidence.
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I like this idea. This forum is chock full of great ideas today. Globetrotter Walt and Paulo dropping deuce at LA X are both GOLD!!!
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FYI, I installed it just using the "native" chrome user scripts/extensions and made a few tweaks and it's up and running. There's actually a Grease Monkey for Chrome, but I was curious about running without it. The GM data store calls don't work, so I simply hardwired in my username (made a couple of other tweaks).<br />
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Maybe we'll finally learn whatever happened to Sun and Jin.<p>How they got through customs.<p>Who the watch was for.<p>Whether Sayid shoots, Jin, strangles him or just cranks up the freezer and leaves him tied to the chair to freeze to death.<p>How badly the weeds have overgrown Sun's garden in three years.<p>If the rumors about Ilana's connection to Miles are true.<p>Why Pierre Change thought it was so funny to start each Dharma Initiation film off by introducing himself with a different name, (Hello, I'm Dr. Marvin Candle.)<p>Which Kwon is the candidate, Sun, Jin or Yi Jeon><P>How did that stuffed panda tell the taxi driver to take off?<p>How did Jin make it off the freighter before it exploded?<p>Why was Yunjin-Kim a big movie star in Korea?<p>Was Jin replaced with a shape shifter or brought back from the dead after dying n the freighter explosion><p>What is the second thing a married couple who haven't seen each other for three years do, after fucking like tigers for six hours?<p>Are Sun and Jin married in the LA X reality stream?<p>Is Yi Jeon in Widmore's private bathroom on the sub with Aaron getting their diapers changed by Desmond and the White Smoke Monster?<p>[poom] Lost
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Heh heh. That sounds dirty. She has been on that island a long time.
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since the Losties abandoned the beach camp and then returned to it 2 ep's back with Ben and Lapidus? Do you really think any of that stuff would still be there? Maybe a plane part or two, but I imagine most of it would've been washed or blown away. <P>If you've ever been to the beach before you know this is true. Try leaving a towel on the beach for just a couple of days.
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I thought you said something else. Nevermind.
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March 30, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST
Wow, some BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG spoilers are out there now
by Pizza The Hut
I need some blindfolds. :(
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haven't multiple people already said that Darlton have confirmed it was the Black Rock? so why the questions still?
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March 30, 2010, 3:07 p.m. CST
the Black Rock? It's nothing but rum, sodomy, and the lash!!
by MacFaux
Don't get the whole majoring in the minors of how a big ship on a big wave busted up a big statue cause..<br><br> The physics ..the how? Though interesting..not as important as the Meta-physics ..the why?.. in this 'incident'.<br><br> That was literally TPTB hitting folk over the head (or in this case on the hippo's head) of Myth and Metaphor replacing Myth and Metaphor ...the New (Monotheism / High Tech / Patriarchal / The Black Rock) driving out the Old (Pantheism / Low Tech / Matriarchal / Taweret ) all in a never ending 'Ab Aeterno' course of change. Ouroboros. Yin bearing Yang killing Yin..ah hell, you get it... Again the TPTB gave this away FOUR minutes into the original pilot, TAIJITU! before Locke and the backgammon stones.. So please don't type they didn't know what they where doing.. Pffft. <br><br> "The days of our kind are numbered.<br> The one God comes to drive out the many gods.<br> The spirits of wood and stream...<br> ...grow silent.<br> It's the way of things. Yes.<br> It's a time for men and their ways."<br><br>
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I'm impatient. If I could watch every episode in a row, then maybe I wouldn't, but . . . well, anyway.<br /><br />The spoilers leaved me a little underwhelmed, but what worries me the most is that it's still unclear what they are doing (going to do) with the alt timeline. I'm just not sure.<br /><br />As for the rest of it, no sign that they are going to deal with the most important issues to me, like the capsule dump. Or revisit Dave. Or show some background of Kelvin in the Swan station with Radzinsky. <br /><br />All I can say is, after this is over they need to do a spin-off called "The Dharma Initiative":<br /><br />He's a peace loving hippy! He's an angry bald guy with a beard! And this little boy is the future murderer of them all! It's . . . the Dharma Initiative!<br /><br />I'm betting most of those actor would be glad to get the work.
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In a self imposed exile for a bit. Last TB traded heavily into Spoiler Land...so I vowed to stay away. <p> Kinda upset I read Patchy will be in tonight's installment. Question is...will he be with patch....or sans patch? <p> I'll be back tonight after I receive "The Package". <p> Wow. That sounded gay. Namaste!
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Thomas Boyette, and his Armee Universal Gewehr..being hotly pursued by MSgt.Johnny Gallagher, United States Special Forces.<br><br>
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Herc you described Kelvin Inman aka CLANCY FUCKIN BROWN'S character background in your description of Mikhali.
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I think these lyrics can sum up pretty well the crux of what Lost is about. http://www.asklyrics.com/display/living-colour/this-is-the-life-lyrics.htm
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March 30, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST
Please don't even post your impressions/reactions about the spoi
by Dapper Swindler
Even that is too spoilerish. Seriously. Do not do this.
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But he later admits that all his dharma background claims were bs. Only thing accurate about what he mentions is the purge
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The powers that be should definitely have a Twin Peaks Talk Back.
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LOL, thanks!
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March 30, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST
I can't help you with the rest of MacFaux's scholarship :-)
by rosasaks
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I've got MacFaux blocked (no offense, just testing, it's fun) and can just hit return in the comments box.<br /><br />I've never played with Greasemonkey. I oughta play with that sometime.<br /><br />That being said: tick, tock, tick, tock. Just counting down the hours until Lost. What am I going to waste my time in anticipation of once it's off the air?
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is my favorite character. i want him to come digging himself out of that dirt on the beach back to life somehow. even if he doesnt terry oquinn definitely deserves an emmy for his work. him being the mib is so unlike locke yet is like locke, its truly great work and deserves acknowledgment.
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needs to come back from the dead before the end. Or at least alt-timeline-universe-reality Locke needs to become the shit and redeem original island Locke if he doesn't rise up out the grave.<P>But yeah, O'quinn is a fuckin bad ass and deserves some metal for that shit.
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You hear me Hollywood? Imma fuck shit up of he doesn't get some bad ass roles after LOST is over.<P>Oh and Michael Emerson, too. He has been spectacular and needs to have some meaty roles put in front of him. Make that shit happen, you bastards.
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She better get plenty of roles requiring copious amount of nudity and, optionally, lesbian love affairs. I'll leave that last part up to your discretion.<P>Fuck, I should be running a studio.
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that info? I looked at the top part and quickly closed the page. Anyway, I'm sure this info was tighter than a christian girls locker room key hole, so I'm curious as to how you came across it.
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I wish bro .. I been scouring for nudes of little Alex since it wasnt technically legal yet
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I too read a few lines. A few lines too many! Dammit!!! Don't read that stuff, people!!
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Ireland from the 1930's till about 1965 was very repressed and Austere. And now in 2010 we have just learned about the irish bankers destroyed the irish economy. www.rte.ie and read catastrophic figured for yourself.
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When he was talking to Frank and Sun in the abandoned houses.
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March 30, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST
It does irritate that important characters so frequently go AWOL
by rosasaks
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So how long has it been since the Ajira 316 crash and Jack and gang flashed to 1977? I am guessing they all have been on island for about the same time. So maybe 7-10 days since Ajira took off? It feels like it's been so much longer than that.
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Cuz its HOT!
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Okay, maybe it's just me, but I've been waiting for years for all the factions on the island to be suddenly taken by surprise as a platoon of dudes decked out in black super-futuristic Crysis style body armor hit the beach and point some nasty looking boomsticks at all these island losers. Camera pans to the patch on one of the dudes' arms and it says, DHARMA.<p> POOM<p> Upshot of this is that Dharma has continued to be a presence throughout all seasons of the show. But, they've only been shown in the context of the 70's. Yet, their equipment has continued to function and there have even been airdrops within the Oceanic crash timeframe. Obviously, somewhere, off island, Dharma has continued to exist in some form or another. Why have they never come to check on all those fancy stations of theirs?<p> Wouldn't it be awesome to find out that all that info we've learned over the years actually had a payoff? Maybe Hanso is dead and Dharma has been bought by a weapons conglomerate for the research potential? Who knows.<p> Basically, it would have been great for a bunch of true bad asses to show up and say "Who are you people and what the Hell have you done with the members of the Dharma Initiative?" (Camera pans to Ben, now crapping his pants)<p> Of course, something like this won't happen. The show is now about Jacob and MIB instead of all that other shit we were told was so important in seasons past. All this new stuff, so recently pulled out of a writer's ass is going to be the endgame for LOST.<p> Personally, I'm disappointed in that. Now, granted, I know it will be an entertaining ride regardless, because the character work is so good. But, as a matter of taste, I prefer the mysteries from previous seasons to the new fangled ones.
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will it feature Juliet's spectacular cans?
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March 30, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST
Seriously alot of my friends quit watching LOST b/c they are wai
by AshokForgiven
I don't really know why people are so sensitive to LOST having lower ratings, considering ratings are meaningless these days. LOST DVR, Internet downloads, and DVD sales are still skyrocketing. <br><br> And alot of my friends quit watching not because they don't like the show, but because they want to marathon run the DVDs.
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how Hurley's "I can see and talk to Dead people" schtick is being used to convince everyone of the "right" path without any explanation of where said powers have come from? I love the show...so don't get me wrong...but up until late last season he was just a crazy guy right? And now his visions are real? How? He's just a plot device now instead of a character and it's starting to bother me a bit. Same with Miles. They don't have to spell it out completely but these powers are mighty convenient when they have to leave a temple, or go to a lighthouse, or follow richard and give him hope. In the end maybe Hurley will be the best candidate...or more likely in my mind, a new Richard.
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I suggested last week that Hurley is being used by Jacob, who appears to Hugo already and could (I guess) change his appearance if he wanted to, in order to win folks over to his side. So, in that case, the "dead" that Hurley sees would merely be fakes set up by Jacob and he's every bit the manipulator that MIB is. The appearance of Richard's wife at the end of last week's episode takes on a whole new color if it wasn't the "real" Isabella.<p> Or, they could go the more obvious route, as you point out.
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Look at that visual and it's so obviously setting up the whispers... <p> I do wonder if Richard attempting to summon MIB will have consequences. We assume Hurley pulls him back from the brink, but... and Richard being set up to stop MIB does remind me a bit of Alex telling Ben he must do what Locke says. <p> Isabella was left deliberately ambiguous - the discrepancies between what she says on the Black Rock and at the end, and between MIB and Jacob's opinions about her vis a vis both of her island appearances and each other, possible manipulations not withstanding. <p> Another thought, given the suggestion of MIB and Jacob trading places to some extent, given the ritual with the stones, and the remarks about bodies. Can Jacob now appear in multiple forms, free of his old body? Hence the boy in the jungle, Hurley seeing visions of Jacob and Isabella, etc.
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What the hell is going on there and also from the season premiere: when jack and Locke have a conversation about his dad. And Jack giving him his card to see if he can help him walk again.
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March 30, 2010, 5:56 p.m. CST
well, at least I got ONE person to respond to my theory
by BillboeFett
about the two Christians. I guess thats better than nothing? :(
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Compliments some thoughts I had in last week's talkback, so I looked them out. I'll leave out the speculation that we saw Isabella die in two time lines and that explains her island presence, as a forerunner to Locke and Christian and the whispers. But there do seem to be a lot of echoes of characters experiencing similar fates. <p> The line about Jacob taking MIBs body and humanity almost raises a question about whether Jacob and MIB have in the past switched places, or if MIB once looked as Jacob does now. And it's ironic, because it could be argued that if Jacob took MIBs body and humanity, that is exactly what MIB has now done to John Locke. <p> Most thoughts I've seen on The Last Recruit, with good reason, favour it will be about the final person selected or taking sides on the island in 2007, perhaps after a series of double bluffs and eliminations. What if that's not the right nuance of the word "last". Rather than latest, the word could mean previous. As in what happened the previous time Smokey tried recruiting? Not this time. Last time. Because presumably we're going to get to some answers about Jack and that coffin, aren't we? In LA X and on the island. Could the last recruit be about Christian? Because the eerie similarities between Christian and Locke are by design, not accident. <p> If the episode before the candidate sets up what happened the prior occasion Jacob and MIB did this, that would create some tension and stakes and ready the ground for some reversals of expectation too. I can't help thinking there's got to be some sort of Shepherd centric episode in LA X, addressing Jack, David, Christian, Claire and Aaron. So that could be The Last Recruit. And then maybe The Candidate could be Sawyer taking revenge on Cooper at Locke's wedding. And then whoever the candidate is, have their interaction in the LA X scenes reflect their interaction on the island in 2007. Because we were told quite specifically, and this wasn't a throw away line, that if MIB kills Jacob, it won't matter because someone will replace him. And MIB says well that won't matter either, because he'll kill the replacement too. So the Candidate might not just be the reveal of Jacob's replacement, it might be MIB trying to kill him. I think maybe this needs to be a Locke episode. Cause Locke seems to still be in there, somehow. I really think Locke has to die in the LA X time line, completing his symmetry with Christian being dead in both time lines. And showing Christian's story the week before would set up the consequences on the island of Locke being dead in the LA X world. I wouldn't be surprised if Claire had a miscarriage either. That blonde boy in the jungle - seemed to be setting up two realities, one in which the child is covered in blood and is a ghost, and one in which the child is alive and running around in physical form. I think we've seen other stories feeding in to the conflict inherent in this plot point too. <p> I wouldn't rule out Locke as Jacob's replacement just yet. Man in Black needing to kill Jacob's replacement... Would explain why this is all still playing out after Jacob's "death" in The Incident. It would be ironic if Jacob's response to the loophole was to somehow make MIB his replacement, through John Locke. And that would bring them full circle. MIB says Jacob took his body and his humanity. Now he has done the same to John Locke. So what if it completes by MIB taking Jacob's body and humanity. He remains trapped on the island by the absurdity of the only way he can leave being to kill himself. And maybe, just maybe, that's how all this started... looking for a loophole to escape from oneself. <p> What if Man in Black's name is... Jacob <p> The two rivals were and old and young version of the same man, caught in some time loop where they coincide? And at one time in life this man has very different fervent beliefs? And the loophole is a way to change his own destiny? When he was young he had a lot of power and did something irreversible that he later bitterly regretted in a way he couldn't possibly foresee. And he spends the rest of his life trying to correct himself. And this is his idea of heaven and hell, perhaps as Milton conceived it - The mind is its own place, and in itself, can make heaven of Hell, and a hell of heaven.
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yung23 has been workin on it for years ..think it was the basis for his most excellent and detailed maps of the Island.<br><br> I wanted these guys to combat jump on to the Island from 120 meters:<br><br> http://tinyurl.com/PLASOFnmr<br><br> 獵鷹<br><br> ..specifically cause they can do this...<br><br> http://tinyurl.com/yzqqw8o<br><br> ...everybody on the Island dies!
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please let it last...
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It had to be said.
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I thought the door that Sawyer was interested in had a padlock on it. Of course he would notice the one door that is unlike the others.
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March 30, 2010, 7:03 p.m. CST
Here I was looking forward to the enhanced episode and ...
by taking_up_space
I get Dancing With the Fucking Stars?! Fuck this shit. Thanks ABC.
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March 30, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST
I'm canadian so BEWARE of the following SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER
by daveyf
DESMOND!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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March 30, 2010, 7:19 p.m. CST
Is the island moving through time and space or just time?
by Tall_Boy66
this was a season 5 question, my buddy was convinced the island was moving through time and space, but I think it's just moving through time. It's position is always pretty much at the same spot, close to Fiji, but it's always moving through time so you can only find it when certain windows open up. that one right?
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March 30, 2010, 7:28 p.m. CST
And just to mention ..The last supper promo photo and 23 May
by MacFaux
23 May 2010. That is Pentecost Sunday, and as referenced above with the 'Excalibur' quote ..it is the Day the king gathers all the knights of the round table for a feast..<br><br> Zo, as in THE ACTS OF THE APOSTLES 1 from the Latin Vulgate..Matthias is chosen in place of Judas...and then:<br><br> 2:1 et cum conplerentur dies pentecostes erant omnes pariter in eodem loco.<br><br> 2:2 et factus est repente de caelo sonus tamquam advenientis spiritus vehementis et replevit totam domum ubi erant sedentes<br><br> 2:3 et apparuerunt illis dispertitae linguae tamquam ignis seditque supra singulos eorum<br><br> 2:4 et repleti sunt omnes Spiritu Sancto et coeperunt loqui aliis linguis prout Spiritus Sanctus dabat eloqui illis<br><br> <br> "And when the days of the Pentecost were accomplished, they were all together in one place: And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a mighty wind coming: and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. And there appeared to them parted tongues, as it were of fire: and it sat upon every one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost: and they began to speak with 'divers' tongues, according as the Holy Ghost gave them to speak." <br><br><br> 2:13....."But others mocking, said: These men are full of new wine." <br><br> No happy ending for the Alt-Sideways? Jughead Hell-fire?! I will laugh my assss off if.. in the Alt-sideways TPTB have the Hurley meteor ..or meteorite, whatever dude, hit all the surviving LOSTies instead of Tricia Tanaka. Now, that would be an awesome ending.<br><br> Cut to Desmond: "The End"
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is not on Earth. It exists in a bubble outside time and space. Near Fiji is just one of the vile vortices that can lead to the island. Others include Bermuda, Tunisia, and Antarctica. If you start thinking of the island in these terms much of the mysteries make more sense. The island never really moved, just that door to it.
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Herc called Richard Alpert an "imprisoned passenger". What, is it suddenly politically incorrect to say "sex slave"? Oh stop squirming, you know its true. He's pretty.<p>You wanted an origin story for the eye liner, there you go.
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But still spits out Kate.
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Jacob is all the "dead people" that Hurley is seeing.
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hmmm......
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is ABC retarded?
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Way to give a crap about the Asians finally. After everybody else. Fucking racist LOST.
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taking up 25 percent of the screen..fucking ABC and their fucking distracting promos with their countdown to Crap
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To get this goddamn V off the screeN?
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Zombie Charlie and Paulo.
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...looks pretty lame anyway.
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Way to get LOST fans to stick around for the return of the show - FEATURE A BIG FUCKING CLOCK at the bottom of the screen! LOST fan backlash commence in 5,4,3,2...
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says 54 minutes till JUSTIFIED. <p>I've seen tonight's V. It's still dopey and boring. <p>I've seen tonight's JUSTIFIED too. That's a show that knows what it's doing.
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Why didn't the freighter folks handle stuff like that?
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I kinda miss it.
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But I've never seen a V better than a Parenthood.
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Show me the sexy girl.
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....to when we all can change the channel.
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Weird episode so far
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ABC is reading and they brought the V Clock back!
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It appears it could just be awful. Complete and utter bullshit and a waste of time.
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This episode is a quarter over and we have had the sleeper crew knock everybody out and take Jin. That's it. Time to turn it up a gear or three.
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Seriously she a wasted character and have been for 3 yrs now. Her story has been over a long time ago!<p>Hate to see Jin be killed but its might be his time to go as well.
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...I'm liking this episode so far!
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that better be a fucking important desk clerk if he gets that kind of billing!
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Sun needs to transfer to Smallville
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March 30, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST
WTF, she ran into a tree and Locke gets the blame?!
by HollywoodHellraiser
What a fucking bitch!
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SHE RAN INTO A TREE!
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Hahahahaha
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Pretty funny!
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so now the damn sideflashes aren't even in order.
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i think the cw made a big frakkin mistake cancelling veronica mars they couldve at least told the producers ahead of time to plan a proper finale
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He is so safe. Really.
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lame.
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Claire is a thorn in the side. Nutso.
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this actress has such a weird/bad presence for being introduced this late in the show.
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Will V have a V clock that counts up?
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Good one MIB.
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That god-awful countdown thing makes me understand why Elvis would occasionally shoot his TVs.
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Thanks. Every character on Smallville should be an NFL quarterback. If the Cowboy drafted Chloe instead of Aikman, they would have a dozen Super Bowls by now.
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So, people have numbers assigned to them and certain people need to be on a plane to land on the island or for Locke to leave the island? So the island is a big vault to keep Smokey in?
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I don't need people to look like models, but God she's hideous. Get her off my screen.<p> Overall this episode is okay so far but this season is lacking original recipe Locke and Juliet so there's sort of an emptiness.
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And a fantastic pick as well. Made me laugh.
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Godzilla movie............HA
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Greatest mystery to date! Awesome!
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hahaha
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wasn't it two weeks ago a talkbacker made fun of ABC execs because nobody in the talkback was talking about V or Flash Forward despite heavy promotion during Lost. Great, ABC heard this and so they put this stupid countdown in the ep so we have to acknowledge it
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March 30, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST
Ah the Sun/Jin stuff is boring but the Locke stuff...
by HollywoodHellraiser
GOOD!
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Why is she treating him like crap now?
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sun's aphasia
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Bet on Bl...Locke!
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Blah blah boring. At least it is good to know that Titans will Clash.
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but have a feeling it's they'll attempt to bring it w/ a f'ing cliffhanger.
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that if Smocke can knock boulders on people he can knock tripods off the sand...
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Now she speaking Japanese because she ran into a tree??? Is this the best they can do for the actress!?!<p>Please kill her off NOW!!! She getting more and more useless!
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...suggest she might die. and her speaking english isnt helping.
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Jin...you have a daughter!!
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March 30, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST
I'd give my left nut if Nikki was brought back and Sun killed of
by HollywoodHellraiser
In fact, I'd bet a bunch of guys would give their left nut for Nikki!
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too easy!
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Looking more like Sun will see another day! Dammnit!
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This is a bit overproduced. If it is not Jin's kid, why should he give a flying flip?
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or Another Cooper.
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MacFaux goes back in time to correct the horrible consequences of giving his father five alarm chili for dinner.<P>[VRRTTTT]
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Care about.
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That'd be awesome.
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100%
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they took that poll down so i cant check it but didn't it say that something actually cool was going to happen tonight?
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WTF is going to happen.............
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March 30, 2010, 8:57 p.m. CST
YES!!!!! YES!!!!! Thank the gods!!! Hopefully Sun is dead!!!
by HollywoodHellraiser
Please my wishes to fuck Playboy Bunnies never came true but please let this come true!
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I like hippie Jack.
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Please.
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V countdown clock obscured her card.
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Fuck you, ABC!
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writing.
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Nice one dumbasses
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Maybe he was looking for it, dude.
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i feel like i'm watching s2. who is the package! where's the side-death fallout!
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the writers fail miserably at making me care at all...
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Notice, no question mark. Because this is a statement.
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March 30, 2010, 9:02 p.m. CST
Well was it really that hard to guess it was Desmond?
by HollywoodHellraiser
Search your feelings and know it to be true!
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like sawyer the writers will never stop trying and failing to make them relevant
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What the f did she write on the card?
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night it was mentioned right off the bat. When Sawyer was peeking about. Whoever guessed that congratulations for this big reveal.
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WOW, loved the whole Sawyer/Desmond behind the wall parallel. <br><br> Mr. Hume just made my interest in the last 6 episodes go up about 20 points.
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/I don't trust him./
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It's been the Wishmaster all along! In the Wishmaster movies, the Wishmaster was a Jin. This episode was all about Jin. Jin meets Jin, I have to be onto something! right?
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I saw perfectly what she wrote.
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Jupiters cock make it happen!
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coulnd't bring it for two episodes in a row. Not to be a Debbie Downer but shit. And of course now for the next week we'll be going over who is going to die for next weeks show.
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...bitches. Support awesomeness. Spurn lameness.
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C'mon we knew this episode was going to suck!<p>We had hope that something would happen to justified the ongoing annoyance of Sun and Jin, but it didn't!<p>Seriously, writers this episode prove that even with your tinkering Sun/Jin are irrelevant! They have become forced characters that offers NOTHING!<P>We get Kreamy in 2 eps that should have gone to Micheal, Walt, Shannon, or Boone! You know the ORIGINAL Losties!
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/Yes/ /Sorry :)/ /He told me he found Jin/ /I don't trust him/
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you poor people and your SD television channels. :P but seriously, i wonder if Sun losing her english is a side effect of her sideflash self eventually dying. seems retarded i know but i am canadian so.
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"How long till V?"
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"...it was all just a dream. The End."
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it was a surprise to see they actually have a good loving relationship this time. but Keamy's line about being destined to be apart doesn't bode well.
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I am not a Nielson family, but I did not wait 1/8 th a second to tune out just in case Big Brother was watching anyways. Screw You Mickey Mouse!!!!!
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Jack said to Sun almost the exact same thing MIB said to her. I know it's almost a foregone conclusion that Jack replaces Jacob but I still liked that. Would've liked it even more if Sun did (or will in the future) acknowledge it.
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if he can knock over trees and shit, couldn't he just dig his way underneath? i'm talking about the big ass ones near the clearing, the beach ones were just sitting there so yeah.
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"Since when did Keamy become a series regular?"
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Can Did Kate Ate My Muppet Fucking Baby Rules!
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March 30, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST
Now we won't have to suffer with Sun shouting "Jin"!
by HollywoodHellraiser
WWWAAAAAAAAALLLLLLTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!
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March 30, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST
memento108, sure, I'll buy a TV so I can see what Sun wrote
by jimbojones123
Perfect logic there skippy
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Did he mumble Mikhail was Danny's guy, or something like that? And again, mumbling to Jin in the freezer, something about what's about to happen on the island? Probably my hearing's no good...
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Wouldn't a whole bunch of that "ash" have been more economical? Or better yet, just bum rush him and pour ash around him? I do love Lost and yeah, I get we wouldn't have much of a show if characters acted logically, but I guess it just wouldn't be kosher around here if I didn't post something semi-negative.
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I second that! Since the season began I don't see Locke anymore! I see a whole new character and Terry should get an Emmy for his performance!
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There are rules remember?
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...that Kate's name was not on the wall "ANYMORE?" Thoughts?
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I am thinking he can't kill the people that were not crossed off the list because he needs them on the plane to "re-created" the 815 flight,so he can leave the time barrier around the island. Just like Ben needing the Ajira flight to be as close to the 815 one to get to the island.
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Fuck off ABC cunts you cocksucking pig swine let people read what I sodding write you contemptuous, cuntsucking motherless cunt fucks.
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and only ONE of you comments on it?<br /><br />lostboytexass is right. You're all Homos! :P Hahaha
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well we never saw her name on the wall so i figured this was confirmation she was crossed off or just never there to begin with.
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V! Iger, yer team is doing a bang up job at promotions for a show that should have been cut after 3 episodes.
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Dear LOST produces, please write Sun out next week, or tell her to stop being cunty.
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"In one week, the conversation is going to change."
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although i do find it weird that unlike most every other show, it doesn't air widescreen on SD channels. cuz then the ABC logos would be in the black bars and people could just zoom and not see them or any of that stuff at all.
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More teenage Chuck Widmore in army garb.
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Or elder brother. These bald men all look alike to me.
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...on the wall "anymore," as per SmokeLocke, does that mean she's been removed from island protector contention, and does SmokeLocke's words to Claire that "whatever happens, happens" mean he's giving her carte blanche to kill her now?
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annihilates the original off island time line and replaces it with LA X? Seems to be confirmed by Richard's dialogue tonight. And as we know, Kate, Sawyer, Jin, Sun, Jack, Claire - all seem pretty keen on not doing what Richard wants. Some fancy the plane, others the sub. But Desmond may put a cat among the pigeons.
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I would rather go to Chili's for dinner one night a week for 2.5 years than upgrade a TV that works. Why is that a class distinguisher? Just because some of you nerds don't have anything better to spend your money on than BluRayz or replica Phasers, does not mean that the rest of us give a crap about how many gray hairs are in Jack's beard.
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Claire can kill Kate when he's done using her. MiB holds back the dogs.
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...development: when Sun hit her head and started speaking KOREAN (not "Japanese" as some asshole said earlier), the "whoosh" sound was CLEARLY an airplane engine. This was repeated several times in the transition from Island Time to Sideways Time. The realities are converging....
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Even in Korean. Sad he's gone, again.
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I little sinister, however, it came across that way to me too. Also Claire didn't act like a little kid tonight. And am I crazy but when Sayid talks now I can hear his native tongue?
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that combined with my retarded idea that her losing her english is a effect of her fate in the sideflash might indeed signal the beginning of the melding of the realities.
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because i pay the extra 5$ to get an HD signal on my tv. awesome.
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I don't know what half of you fags are bitching about. Locke was afraid of what Widmore could have on that boat. So basically Desmond is the replacement for the Japanese man in the temple. And Sun isn't dead in the flash-sideways.. yet. I guess they'll resolve that in someone elses flash.
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But Kate and Claire have made up and I bet Claire warns Kate about Locke now.
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In one week, the conversation is going to change by Damon. Somebody call Penn and Teller cause this is some bullshit!
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...that Jin will take Sun to Jack's hospital?
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She can't speak Engrish.
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I really like S6, but I really miss Drew Goddard. I think he gave LOST a real magic touch.
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It's like a damn Godzilla movie! Can we get a translator here, stat!
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just googled sheila kelley (Zoe) and wow, she does a pole dancing class. <p> hell, I'd hit it
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FUCK YOU, ABC!!! And here's another FUCK YOU for possibly the worst "next week promo" I've seen yet. NO WONDER ratings are down with shit promos like that where nothing new is shown. Speaking of nothing, that about sums up what happened in this episode. Just a few chess pieces were moved around and back is all. Best part was seeing Desmond obviously. The rest was pretty much filler. Sun runs into a tree, UnLocke goes back to his camp. Whaaaat?... Sun can't speak english, and we waste time trying to convince her to get her ass in gear. Huuuhhh? UnLocke and Witlessmore are talking badness, then call it a day. Geez Louise... I hope next week is better.
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...of the Losties peering "Through the Looking Glass".
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You know, when Daniel got off the sub last year. <p> Is Daniel Mikhail's boss in the LA X?
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about Sun taking off her shirt? You guys are so unpredictable.
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Ya dumb douche, you've presumably been watching this show since the beginning and don't know that Jin and Sun are KOREAN, not Japanese? Fucktard.
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Since the first episode of this season, every flash sideways has had that same sound going into it. It definitely has a airplane engine in it, opposed to the classic flahsback or flashforward sound wich was more of a backwards "woosh" sound.
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March 30, 2010, 10:12 p.m. CST
"In one week, the conversation is going to change."
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Fuck him. Fuck him up his I'm-so-clever smug ass!!!<P>Don't you get cute with me, Lindelof. The "conversation" was supposed to change at the beginning of this season, fucko!
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esp. with the timeline merging starting. cant wait till all the TROLLS up top to stop bitching so the real confo can start. DESMOND BROTHA!!!
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In the past it has conferred people with gifts they shouldn't have. Now Sun has lost the ability to speak English?
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I figured it's a given that Sun's going to end up at Jack's hospital....possibly the bullet's lodged in the spine or something? HOWEVER, how f'ing cool would it be if somehow Charlotte ended up being the Korean translator. <p> Charlotte: Gee, you look like someone I remember from a dream I had when I was a little girl a man taught me a little Korean....
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Echo of the blonde boy in the jungle? The first time we saw him, as a ghost vision, not a kid? Symbolic of two time lines? Different outcomes? So the blood suggests Sun will die? And her being shot while pregnant... no Ji Yeon... so what of Aaron in the LA X? That skull doll and the talk of Claire having lost her baby... ominous to say the least. David after all may just signify look look here's a kid that doesn't exist in the other time line. So those kids who do exist in the other time line? Don't get too attached. What was it Richard said about the world and people you care about will cease to exist... Well no, not exactly, but it's a bit of a gamble whether you like these eggs better than those eggs.
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And all it took was one Bra scene...
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There was really nothing to suggest that Desmond was the package. We saw him being taken out of the sub but there was no interaction, that was shown, between Jin and Desmond. The way Widmore talked about it suggested that Jin would really care that it was on board. Also, has anyone considered that the Kwon on the wall is their daughter? They have made such a deal of pointing out the last name applying to more than one person.
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investigate the shootings at the restaurant and possibly even Sun's shooting at the hospital.
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She looked like something was off, like it didn't seem right to her. Discuss.
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Sun shot + Sun pregnant = paging Juliet
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Good one arby64, that idea slipped past me. Everything is converging all right...
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Sawyer arrests Jin while Jin is with Sun at the hospital where Juliet is her obstetrician? Seems about right for the sideways world.
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for an emergency. A Korean has been shot and is pregnant as well. Claire will still be in the hospital recuperating from giving birth. James and Miles will be investigating the shooting. I don't have a clue how Kate will be at the hospital though.
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It's very plausible that she should forget how to speak an entire language. Thanks to Jack for clearing up the fact that separate languages are governed by entirely different parts of the brain. When she hit her head while running, she hit the "English" section of her brain. I'm glad the writers think of good explanations for times when speaking two languages becomes a detriment for plot-telling, which I'm sure will crop up next week.
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for a ceremony in his name for donating to a new wing ala children's hospital.
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Anyone else think that maybe MIB took away Sun's ability to speak English as a way of alienating her from the other castaways, thus making her even more inclined to seek out Jinn, thus joining Locke's group?
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"GENERAL HOSPITAL II"... New this fall, on ABC...
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and the smoke detector went off in the hospital... guess these dipshit writers forgot about that.
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Something I picked up on today so apologies if this was obvious to everyone before, but I noticed Locke attempting to persuade Sun to join him, when she ran and hit her head he theoretically could have picked her up and taken her, but he didn't thus making me think that people have to volunatarily join him/choose to leave the island. Hence why he needs Kate, since it's likely her presence would be necessary to convince jack to leave the island as well.
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for a Private Practice/ LOST La X Crossover.<br /><br />Sawyer needs to bang another Redhead.
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Good point. How can that be explained?
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Maybe because Breaking Bad is back....this kind of thing seems like Stargate: Primetime.
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I am also wondering if MIB healed Locke's spine in the first place to make him a more suitable host.
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Sun's notepad on my TV, and I was watching a over the air HD transmission on a 50 inch widescreen tv. I don't know what other people saw....granted I could read it, but it was blocking some of it. Stupid move on ABC's part.
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"Every great magic trick consists of three parts or acts. The first part is called "The Pledge". The magician shows you something ordinary: a deck of cards, a bird or a man. He shows you this object. Perhaps he asks you to inspect it to see if it is indeed real, unaltered, normal. But of course... it probably isn't.<p>The second act is called "The Turn". The magician takes the ordinary something and makes it do something extraordinary. Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it, because of course you're not really looking. You don't really want to know. You want to be fooled. But you wouldn't clap yet. Because making something disappear isn't enough; you have to bring it back.<p>That's why every magic trick has a third act, the hardest part, the part we call "The Prestige"."<p>Hope they can pull it off...I want to believe.
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Oh, it'll be a disappointment. A big one.... the magician will be dropping cards all over himself for the big reveal.
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I've said in an earlier talkback that the smoke detector going off was misdirection on the part of the writers. If Christian really was Smokey that would be way too corny a clue. MIB really CAN'T leave the Island in Smoke form.<br /><br />I remain firmly convinced that Christian is a third entity entirely. He doesn't work for Smokey or Jacob.<br /><br />And for the people who keep wondering if Hurley's ability to see and speak to dead people is another manipulation by Jacob or MIB or an ability granted to him by the Island: He's ALWAYS been able to do that.<br /><br /> He talked to Charlie and played Chess with Mr. Eko OFF the Island when Jacob was still alive and MIB said last night that he can't leave the Island in Smoke form. Isabel's ghost really was Isabel's ghost. And when other dead characters start showing up as ghosts ("What They Died For"?) they will really be those people as well.
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I've seen it. very spoilerific.<br><br> jus sayin.
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...good episode, I, unlike the Kwon haters (aka racists) find the Kwons storylines interestin seein as they have been seperated for 3 years...plus they love each other...<p>...also I think Keamy knows Faraday and he is a underground, crime lord (who deals wit whatever science he deals wit)...
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I thought it was quite obvious but I'm still trying to wrap my head around the ramifications. Once Sun died in her sideflash, her conscience INSTANTLY got transferred to her Island self. THat is why she suddenly couldn't speak English. "But Didn't she learn English well before the crash" you ask? Yes, but as you remember, after she first crashed her first instinct was to not speak English to anyone. Since she ONLY has memories of her flash-sideways, she will retain that first instinct and not speak English to anyone. Although she did write English to JAck...Damn I'm CONFUSED!
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...was funny...also a bit gratutious... ya dont see closeups on Lockes cleavage
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...sorta reminds me when HRG thought in Japanese to the mindreaders... er, sorry for mentionin that show...
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Will Penny be making a return trip as well to rescue Desmond and the LOSTies?<p>Ditch the annoying V countdown clock ABC.
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Brilliant!
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not only are u a IDIOT on religious arguments NOW ur an expert on RACIAL connotations??? where do u store ur stupid when u leave ur house???
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Do we know if Sun still speaks English? Let's assume she does. She's focused on not letting anyone know she speaks English, even though every one around her does in Los Angeles. So has that aspect of her state of mind some how bled back to the island? I agree about her looking at herself funny in the mirror. We're through the looking glass now it seems. <p> Another alternative is Sun doesn't speak English in the LA X, and what we're seeing is the equivalent of Marty McFly vanishing from a photograph.
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Well, I suppose because this episode of Lost wasn't all that much better than that craptacular V. Seriously, wasn't V suppose to be better, and not worse and more boring in every way imaginable? Anyway, back to Lost.<br /><br />Last week's episode was the best of the season because it wasn't dragged down by these worthless flash sideways clips. It's been said that puns are the lowest form of humor. Well similarly, alternate realities are the lowest form of television (Sliders aside, kind of its premise). It's like a whole nuther show, that I have no interest in watching, yet I'm forced to if I want to get to the island stuff. I love Lost, but I really wish this season were less frustrating. It should be all money shot, at this point.<br /><br />Interesting that Smokey can travel over water in human form. I wonder if that's new for him since now he has a real body to work with.<br /><br />I gotta agree with RipleyGrady. Breaking Bad has cheapened just about every other show out there for me (cept classics like The Wire). It's hands down, the most brilliant show on tv right now. It's everything Dexter should have been. Hell, I haven't even started with S3 yet. I won't get the time till Thursday, but I can't wait. That is a show in desperate need of a talkback.
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1.@yourvillainbobby, I noticed the same thing about Jack. He seems to be becoming more Jacob-like. I wonder if Jacob’s essence is starting to inhabit Jack sort of in a way MIB became Locke? 2.We saw a little bit more of the devious nature of MIB. The way he hinted to Claire why he keeps Kate around and how he doesn’t care what happens to her when they are about to leave the island. In fact, I have a feeling that what Kate was contemplating about was what would happen if Claire reunites with Aaron. Maybe she is thinking about taking out Claire before that happens? I think part of MIB’s plan is to eventually have the survivors kill each other off after he no longer needs them. 3.I have read comparisons to what is going on in Lost to Stephen King’s “The Stand”, but I am also seeing comparisons to King’s “IT” in terms of a group of normal human beings who have this ability to keep a creature at bay when they are brought together. I have a feeling that the same people that can get MIB off the island are the same ones that can beat or destroy him. 4.Is Sayid becoming more and more a part of MIB body and soul? MIB mentioned previously how he use to have feelings when he was a person. Interesting that Sayid stated he no longer has any. Almost like Sayid is going through the transformation process of becoming another MIB. It is also interesting to note that we don’t see that same effect with Claire since it is her emotions that lead her to attack Kate. 5. Why didn't Widmore's people capture or kill everyone from MIB's group? I would think that if they are trying to fight a war they would minimize MIB's resources.
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And I'm completely fine with that.
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bringing it to us. The rest is filler and with the clock running out there simply isn't time to play grab ass and fuck around. I haven't seen anybody bring this up and maybe it's nothing but is there anything to the segment where Sun finds out that her father took away her 'secret' account?
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I missed the premiere I'm catching the rerun at 1:00 eastern. I knew I loved it when the chief had a 'Tombstone' poster above his desk.
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Sorry to pop your theory, but sideflashes are 2004. Island stuff is, what? 2007?
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I thought the same thing about Sun looking in the mirror .. it was right before they showed her head wond from running into the tree .. I even rewoud it to see of somehow sje saw a mark on her forehed also .. but she just looked surprised somehow
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We need a Justified talkback. That show is fantastic.
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There's a short film being made in town right now called "Aphasia" that is based on a real-life person the writer/director knows.
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But hot, teasing, stripping down to her skivies Sun brought me back over.
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Did anyone catch him spill about something going down on "the island" when he was whispering to Jin in the icebox?
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March 30, 2010, 11:41 p.m. CST
My friend thought Keamy said "Island" too... but he didn;t
by D.Vader
He said something to Jin like "if you found out what was about to go down here" or "if you found out what was about to happen to you".
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Widmore did NOT know Jin had been captured until after Locke appeared. That's why he was very upset in the very next scene with Zoe for grabbing Jin already.
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"Do you know...what's missing? It occurs..<br> by MacFaux Jun 11th, 2009 03:43:39 AM"<br> <br> ""The Plane...the plane...crashed 22 September 2004. The 21st century, right? What, on reflexive reflection is missing? Yeah? Anything? Well...it suddenly occurs..It occurs. <br><br> Cameras. Recording Devices. <br><br> This or that phony photo foisted starlet can't boo-foo-goo a fella or a feline without a sex tape and a 'deputy' in Texas can't taser a belligerent granny without the world seeing it...But, a trans-pacific flight from Oz to LAX, full on full of snap-dragon tourist folk there and back don't have one camera or recording device to record the fun times? C'mon! <br><br> That is just all kinds of whoops! <br><br> Not one Cell Cam, not one 35mm SLR, not one Sony handicam, not one gift store disposable, not one wistful wishful hobby lobby lover of mamiya 645's shuttering a shot!?!. C'mon! <br><br> How did this get missed? <br><br> They find booze, porno, meds, guns...lotsa guns..not one camera. not one? hmmmpf. bollox. Ahhhhh hell, JJ's smudgy horn-rim'd girly glasses! <br><br> http://tinyurl.com/alexsboat<br><br> *Do you know that the MV Bésixdouze Trois is gonna look like that above? Kinda futurey..yeah? <br><br> *Do you know that Jin and Sun's offspring, Kwon ji Yeon, is gonna look like this:"" <br><br> http://tinyurl.com/lspmp9<br><br><br> <br> Hmmmmpf. Cheif. Are you startin to feel the vibe of the Season 5 ordination in posts prior. Will you stop? Will you stop!!!?!!! No? Nothin? <br><br> ok. ok. well. The Well. Atone Well.<br><br> We are all born as many men...we die as only One.
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That Flocke took away Sun's ability to speak english as a way of alienating her... Makes sense, considering it was very weird for him to just "disappear" after the knocked herself out.
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Customs let Jin go, Sayid let Jin leave. Guy who thinks they showed the flash-sideways out of order, wrong. All flash-sides have begun where LA X left off, so did this one.<p>Best crazy theory of this talk-ack. a couple people rudely ragged on the guy who made the mistake about Sun's language, but think about it. Sun runs from Mr. Mib, he knocks her out with a tree and steals both her ability to speak English and her ability to speak Korean, and gives her the ability to speak Japanese even though she doesn;t realize it because she understands what she's saying. that would really be freaky.<p>The big frummage is the V-clock. Like, Tv networks have had their network logos and next show promos in the corners of the screen for twenty years and you just now niticed it? My 25" RCA is burning out so I mainly watch a cheap 13" K-mart TV and I could read her cards with only minor inconvenience. the folks who douldn;t read them at all? That's what you get for watching on your iPhone.<p>Someone asked where Jack got a pen and a pad of paper. I don't know about the pad, maybe an old prescription pad? As for the pand, don't you remember in the pilot episode when Jack asked Boone to go fetch him some pens and Bone brought back about a lifetime supply? Jack will never run out of pens.<p>Loved Ben's "I was out collecting mangos and I found her like that, why won't you believe me" line and the reply "because you're talking".<p>Great shout out to Room 23 with that revisit.<p>Of about 8 options of who or what could have been in Widmores locked private bathroom on the sub, Desmond was the most predictable and the least interesting, but at least he was too stoned out of him mind to walk unaided, so that was interesting.
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It sounded like he said "island", but my caption says that he said the word "you".
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Was flip the freakin' switch!
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stole this episode. But for the first time in, perhaps EVER I was a little bored watching Lost. Still great! But I was a tad bored. At least I'm not wickedjacob.
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Oh dear....
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Huh? Did someone really just say that? It was a map of the world instead? Dowha?
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March 30, 2010, 11:56 p.m. CST
Keamy once again seemed a *little* sad he had to kill someone
by D.Vader
Just like when he pulled the trigger on Alex, he seemed a bit remorseful when talking to Jin in the freezer. I like that.
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how stupid was Alex lol???
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To go to the island by pissing on his and Penny's relationship? Did he know that Desmond held the key to everything? Was the freighter just a ruse to get those specific people off the island? He sure had no problem finding the island with his sub. Why didn't he go on the freighter? Has Chuck been working for Jacob the whole time? Was his exile a setup?
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But that was not what Sun had. Sun's linguistic discordance. Well, that's supernatural. English to Korean to English..<br><br> How do I know for sure? My da, is Aphasic, well, Dysphasic, as a symptom of Alzheimer's.<br><br> Occasionally. It can also be quite hilarious.<br><br> Ya have to find the good in the bad ..my friend.
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Is not the good guy? He's as bad if not worse than MiB?
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But the Island also took away Locke's ability to stand at one point and his ability to speak too.
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1. It was awesome! Here's why: <p> 2. SUN'S CANS! (Yes! I like when she unbuttons, too!). <p> 3. Someone needs to change their talkback tag to SUN'S CANS. <p> 4. You can't kill a candidate. <p> 5. You can't BE killed if you already hold the job. <p> 6. This explains why Ben couldn't just kill Charles. Or vice versa. <p> 7. This explains why Charles didn't kill Unlocke tonight at the sonic fence. <p> 8. This explains why Unlocke didn't kill Sun when she ran away from him. NOT allowed. <p> 9. What he CAN do? Rob her of speaking English to slow her down. <p> 10. Get someone ELSE to tell her to do what he wants. Hello, Jack. <p> 11. If your heart strings weren't tugged at the sight of Jin looking at his little baby girl on that camera...your heart is two sizes too small. <p> 12. Sawyer and Hurley are US!...THEY are the FAN BOY talkback trolls. <p> 13. Sawyer's line "No, Cause That Would Be Ridiculous"! line was written MONTHS ago. Long BEFORE anyone scratched their heads and complained..."why didn't Smokie just 'fly over the water' to surveil the other island"? Trust me. The writers KNOW what they are doing. They KNOW what we will complain about like whiny lil bitches. <p> 14. You really need to stop whining. <p> 15. MARTIN MUTHERFUCKIN GODDAMN KEAMY! Love the Pulp Fiction of it all...dead is NOT dead on this show and I love that. Speaking of which... <p> 16. MIKHAIL MUTHERFUCKIN BAKUNAN! NotPatchy was awesome...friend of Danny's? Hmmmm...You mean...Daniel? As in...Faraday? As in, Mikail is a friend of Daniel fricking Faraday in the sideways world? That's awesome! <p> 17. Also awesome he earned his patch again. Bummer he shot a pregnant lady! <p> 18. I have a bad feeling about sideways Aaron. Do Aaron & Sun NEED to be saved in the sideways world for it not to implode? Worse yet...are THEY the skeletons in the caves? <p> 18. Widmore gets all his Mercs killed and puts a geologist in charge of kidnappings? Ya get what ya pay for Chuck! What does Widmore want with those electromagnetic pockets of energy? Does he aim to sink it using the opposing forces against each other, or something MORE nefarious? <p> 19. Tomatoes are TOUGH to kill on Craphole Island! <p> 20. Loved that in one world Sun lost her ability to speaka da english....but Jin GAINED the ability in the sideways world when he got HIS head bumped. <p> 21. "Hey...I'm an Arab"...Not for long! <p> 22. TEAM DESMOND/SAYID REUNITED!!! And...It feels so good!! Finally... <p> 23. As in...ROOM FUCKIN 23!!!! How about THAT, Pa? Betcha never thought you'd see THAT room again!! Subliminal messages, my ASS, Zoe! Brain washing, baby!!! EVERYTHING CHANGES is the FACT of #23, bitches. <p> Everything. Changes.
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And Zoe wants to know where the Island electromagnetic hotspots are... <p>... Anyone else think Widmore is about to toss Desmond into one of these hotspots for some reason?
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In awhile? Of all time? <p> Hard to say, but I don't remember a moment that had such building tension relating to such a hot hot moment. That slow unbuttoning and the lingering shots of her bosom... yeah, that was good stuff.
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I imagine the electromagnetic anomaly that fuxxed with the plane's avionics (not to mention fuselage) probably fuxxed up all the cameras as well.
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Gotta hand it to 'em, they really ramped up the sexploitation for this final season. Suns lingering bra shot, best gratuitous leer since Kate's bendover.<p>Honestly, Kate never did much for me. Shannon, generic. Penny and Juliet, not for me. Never understood the Ana Lucia hate here, she was a cutie.<p>This season they did what they could with the existing cast; Kate in too tight t-shirt, crazy looking baby-faced Claire, now seductive Sun. Plus beautiful Isabella, sexy Ilana and dirty Zoe.<p>Everyone on this show is always either competent or knows how to fake it. I love that Zoe is a complete fuck-up. Widdy tells her they'll need to kidnap Jin, she goes and gets him, he bitches that he wanted him three days from now. What an ass. "If you wanted a mercenary, you should have hired one." Then they give her an easy job: go get Desmond from the sub. "How much of that stuff did you give him?" "Obviously too much." At last, a villain's henchperson who totally screws up everything she's supposed to do. Love it. she'll probably shoot her face off by the time the series ends.<p>After '80s porn with Christy Canyon, Keisha and Tracey Adams, I never got the hooplah about "Juliet's cans". She's a blonde, she has breasts, so? But this season, at last, Lost is bringing the sexy. Kate, Claire and Sun have to bring their A game just to compete. Isabella, Ilana and Zoe (and Helen) - Lost is finally turning up the heat.
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Its true, look it up. And she's married to actor Richard Schiff.
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maybe u need to be special to turn into "smoke" brotha????
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March 31, 2010, 12:13 a.m. CST
And is no one creeped out by Keamy and his...poetic imploration
by MacFaux
"The Heart Wants What It Wants" ...that is what Allen Stewart Konigsberg said bout pedio psycho rapin his wife's duaghter. Ok. His step daughter. 'Soon' - Yi.<br><br> brrrrrr. creep-uh-fying...<br><br> Although. I'm sure any blog writer who got off on the notion of bangin the perpetual cherry of a 16 year old perpetually healing cheerleader would not have a problem with it..<br><br> Bang the cheerleader, go to penitentiary. Huntsville. And not the town with the rockets, AICN. Well, you would be gettin some such rocket launch through your Stargate.<br><br> jus sayin. You are a wonderful man Harry!
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I like how she got Desmond out of the sub and promptly dropped him on his face.
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wow o wow. REALLY kitten?? u need to turn in ur hetero card to lostBoy PRONTO... im sure u and him will have ALOT in common...
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"V" made me fall asleep. Literally. Period.
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Jacob can't be worse than MIB. For one, Jacob has greater influence in the outside world. He would have had the opportunity to create great harm to hummanity, but mostly reserves his actions on the island. In addition, to my knowledge Jacob has not destroyed a group of people or as many individuals like MIB has. Jacob shows hope for humanity while MIB does not. Even if MIB were not directly responsible for humanity's destruction if he were to leave the island, I don't see him preventing it from happening if he could.
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naked back and side of her beast. She was getting it on w/ Goodwin. I think it was "the other women." Or that time she came out of the water w/ those big ass cans of hers. I think that was the same episode.
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If memory serves right.
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But there was no foreplay with that, no leadup. They just happened. Whereas in tonight's episode, all that foreplay before the unbuttoning, where Sun was playing naughty... I think that may trump the Juliet scene.
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she's sporting.
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Though she's right, Widdy should have put a Merc in charge.
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now THAT should be a talkback name. i miss boobiet and her on again off again hot/ugly face.
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dont woryy about Jimbo...hes just a "bitcher" like GQTASTE-Maniaq-Brabon300-AKKOSA and of course (((JAKA))). just ignore them they will be gone by thurs. hopefully...
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Hmm... It was always assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that because we saw so many Jacob visitations off the island that he and Richard could leave the island but that Mr. Mib never could. This lead to my wacky theory that Christian at the hospital/smoke alarm meant that Jacob had a shape shifting ability and possibly a white smoke monster secret identity. Because all on Island appearances of Christian were MIbby, unless the first visit with Jack was actual GhostyChristian.<p>Now we learn that Mr. Mib cannot cross over water in Smokey form, but he can cross water when he takes human form (and a boat.)<p>So Smokey could have been the Christian at the hospital. and he could have been on the freighter talking to Michael in human form, survived the explosion in smoke form, resumed a human form in the air, fallen in the water and swam or taken a raft or some debris back to the island.<p>Try not to troll at me if you disagree, I'm not sold on the idea, just trying to put the jigsaw pieces together in a way that fits.<p>The big implication, though is, if Mr. Mib can get off the island, and that's not what he means when he ways he wants to "go home" - what is? Tunisia? The Past? LA X-verse?
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my typing skills will return then too brotha lol...
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Bumble this, miscalculate that, dammit Chuck, I'm a scientist. Shooting herself in the face is just too much...too much funny.
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I called it. Also, Smokey can't leave the Island. So Christian in Jack's hospital was NOT Smokey. <p> I still maintain there are TWO Christians. The good, real Christian that shows up in the suit he was wearing in the coffin... And Smokey as Christian, which wears a dark buttonup shirt and has appeared to Locke, Claire, and Sun and Lapidus.
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u did make a very good and valid to the idiot Hague. it was ur last post in the other tb. but, alas, it fell on deaf ears brotha...
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Could she have been dead?
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Freaking Room 23!!!!, Keemy, Omar & Mikail. Sun's flirtation! Desmond! Widmores Mercs taking out MIB's camp! Although they should have taken them all. Desmonds back!!!! Awesome. Im watching V now and its pretty cool also.
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ground or quality and when it doesn't live up to it I get frustrated. My thoughts are that when you have only a short time to rap everything up as best you can and you dick around and waste our time it's upsetting. I hope I've already made my piece w/ the fact that there will be quite a number of loose ends that simply don't and will not add up to my viewing pleasure and yours. It makes my blood boil when they wastes precious segments time after time when it could be badass nonstop, ballstothewall adventure et al.
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maybe Jack has a little of all the island "powers" in him?? little bit of Locke...little bit of Hurley...and just doesnt realize it??
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If you are upset because I think Jacob might be a DICK, get your facts straight. He tells everybody MiB is bad and Vice Versa. I haven't really seen any proof that one is "gooder" than the other beyond the symbolic black and white rocks. Any light student of symbolism knows that white also symbolizes mystery and in some cases evil beyond the simple black. I do look at this show objectivally and sure as hell wouldn't want some half assed barely involved goodie like Jacob in charge of securing evil is kept away. Look at the pointless carnage when all ge would have had to do was say "Look, This is a force of evil, don't let it on a plane and keep at least 12 feet of gray powder trapping it at all times.
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I got it. If that's the case, you really might be disappointed in the end of the series.
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lots better than uve been posting brotha...
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Jack IS the only one to see Christian when he's wearing his funeral suit. <p> Wellllll, Hurley saw him hanging out in Jacob's cabin too... <p> Welllll, Vincent saw him as well just after the plane crashed... <p> They've all got the Shinning!
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But, kid, boy, child... I'm just curious. Why can't you help yourself. Why be a dick. Why be a heartless, totally lacking of compassion, pud-sucking punk. I don't get it. Seriously. I have fought some of the hardest men in the world and none were so.. so vile and vigorous in the need to crack wise cuntly after a handicapped old man. My father.<br><brr> Never mind. My curiosity has flown away and about. You are what you are. You violated a truce offered and acted a fool, AGAIN, as you are, all because you can't get past me pointing out how you clowned yourself once ago. I don't get your hate of gays and your hate of blacks and semitic people...I don't get it.. I just don't get how a kid so young can have a heart so ...stank and stupid.<br><br> Ah, hell, good on ya mate, for goin a whole couple of weeks with out showin your evil wee pussy ass again. I mean it must have been clawin at your minor IQ ..being so completely ..what's the word you kids use ...pwned? by me.<br><br> A word in a million years ..you would NEVER have the balls to say to my face.<br><br> So, Congrats. You the boy! You showed me, you told me, you own me, you are smarter, have a bigger dick, bang more ..blah, blah, blah. <br><br> Again. Darryl Revok? As a character. Was written as a NAZI. Nice pick. <br><br> Be good, God bless you and let us never reference each other again. You evil never done nothing saved anyone lil child. (((((smooooch))))<br><br> Please don't fuck up the rest of this talk back with knucklehead comeback... I respect Herc even as you example in your actions, you don't. So, if you want to fight ..go tell me what for you lil girl over in last week's talk back. <br><br> Remember. All. And note. I left you alone. You did not extend the same politeness.
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Seriously, MacFaux? You're equating marrying your 18 year old step daughter to pedophilia? You must be a saint.<p>I don't know if you've ever seen one of those Liquid Television "Who'd You Rather" side by side comparisons, but picture it: you're been married for what seems like a decade to Mia Farrow, who's looking like something out of a Mummy movie with lipstick on the one hand, and an Asian teenager constantly imploring you to poppa woody on the other. You sir, would do the right thing, and I praise you for it. Some of us would error on the side of love and not care who calls it lust. Not saying it or I would be right, only human.
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u guys BITCH EVERY TALKBACK. same ol same ol. kinda makes a person wonder why u still watch the show u know??
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Smokey WAS at the hospital with Jack...and set off that pesky smoke alarm. <p> Except...it wasn't black smoke. <p> It was white.
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You may not have meant to crack me up, but you did. The V shout out kept it from being confusing to being outright funny.
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I still expect to see what Locke saw, that bright beautiful spirit of the Island.
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but, im thinking jack just wasnt a "believer" in the island yet. hes always been "held back" cause he "didnt have what it takes"...maybe hes letting those demons go....
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"Yes, people, I saw it too. :34 minutes until I cry myself to sleep." What's he talking about?
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It sure looked like a Roman sword/dagger that MiB gave to Richard last week... didn't it?
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i forgot to put him on my "list" too lol. hes like the others just "bitchers"...
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hospital w/ Jack. When he assisted Jack b/c he couldn't get the candy bar so Jacob got it for him.
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Something regarding Kate? A commercial of some sort? The timing doesn't make sense... It was tweeted an hour ago which would have been during LOST on the west coast, actually. So something happened right before the midpoint of the show (if he cries himself to sleep 34 minutes later, when it ends). <p> What could it have been?
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No. not really. Ricardo just called on the soul hotline and said, "mucho pensamiento"<br><br> Great list.<br><br> Did ya notice the changing colours of the chracter's shirts? No? nothin? ok.
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for 'ol Patchy's eye lol. that was pretty cool...
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Sayid about a month ago.
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I don't think MIB was lying when he told Ricardis he didn't take Isabella. We never SAW that smoke monster.
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March 31, 2010, 12:53 a.m. CST
Jay-- saying Jacob is a shitty deity, demigod or prophet
by jimbojones123
From what we have seen over six seasons is FACT! We didn't even get settled on the beach before Smokie offed the Pilot. At leas 2-3 dozen others died since the Losties arrived. Everybody from the tail section. Charlie. A few from the front of the plane. Tons of people in fights with the freighter. Whoever was on the island when it SANK. Parents are seperated. Kids esentally orphaned. All cause Jacob didn't want to be "too involved". I call Bullshit on him being a good guy. This is not bitching, it is observing what has taken place and evaluating it. I don't call you out because you don't agree. That would make me looke like a self important ass
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Anyone have confirmation on that? Dogen's sword looked totally different from MiB's sword to me and my friends.
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of u losing the same eye in BOTH realities hmmm lol????
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I watch it online so I didn't see it.
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But I do believe that Smokey could take the form of a human and take a boat across. MIB Locke started at the island, then made it over to the Barracks last season so he had to have taken a boat.
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As for Damon's Twitter...perhaps he was sleep Tweeting? I know "V" put my ass to sleep half way in!
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how does that explain ALL ur other bitching in every OTHER tb??? same SHIT different WEEK brotha...
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I think that's obvious. I meant, I don't think Smokey can drift across the water to kill the Ajira pple. He's been flying all over the Island, but I don't think he had time for that. I maintain he didn't kill them.
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release that goddamned Krakken, already? Fun line the 1st 900 times I heard it. Now...it's just annoying. <p> They only make 1 promo for that crap fest?
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And in the premier this year. He lost his cool at the lighthouse, but chill Jack is far out man.
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FACT.....
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I just checked out Loctpedia's page for "The Package" and right under the title is a picture of Jin and Sun faceing each other and Sun only has a bra on.
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ah typing skills are vastly overrated....
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not have just been Jacob...as the 'White Smoke Monster'...posing as Christian? Just as we have seen the MIB take the forms of people on the island as the Black one?
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..98 percent of us will die at some point in our lives!
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always look out for the "good" guys brotha...
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To answer your question, yes. really. I really do think that with tight Kate, frazzled Claire, seductive Sun, beauteous Isabella, supersexy Ilana, loving Helen and dirty, smart-but-incompetent at what she's being asked to do Zoe that Lost is definitely into it's sexiest year ever. Or were you referring to the fact that Richard wore guy-liner because he was sold to be a sex slave? He's a pretty boy but he's not my type. I'm retired now, but in my youth I was mostly into the ladies.<p>Oh, Mac, ten years or so ago I rented a room out to an 18 year old. Never touched her, never even looked. Best friends daughter, and she was... not smart. There are rules. Okay, there were times she had a friend over and I heard a bit between songs. Not sure who was spanking who, though.<p>Man who was born too much, just a hypothetical question: if I was teh ghey, how would that change what I write here or how we hate each other? Are you a heteronormative; a person who feels there is one vanilla option that qualifies as "normal" and everything else is unacceptable, or are you a homophobe; a person with a phobia or fear, usually either a fear of his own latent homosexuality or an unhealthy obsession or fascination concerning homosexual rape? Because I really didn't think I could have a lower opinion of you, but if you're going the "calling someone gay as an insult" route, then you're exactly the same as lostboytexass and OtherJosh's Bizarro otherjosh witty but overdone parody of LBT.<p>Seriously, 2517boy, you know I have a very low opinion of you but I never thought you were that subhuman. Shape up, fuckstick; pretend to be civilized.
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bedtime for me it seems lol...
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March 31, 2010, 1:09 a.m. CST
Jay-- your trolling has reached a point of pointlessness
by jimbojones123
And below bothersome. Enjoy your superhigh from it. You'll get more satisfaction from me. The fauxhighhorse routine is stupid, and your posts make you sound like a middleschooler anyways. Unless of course that is the fake somebody you are striving for. Flame away and really soak up the disillusioned greatness you have created for yourself.
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in season 1 Jin couldn't speak english, but Sun could and now its the opposite.
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huh Kitten??? it was a SEMI-JOKE DUMFUK!!!if u dont likey the ladies---I DONT CARE OK!!! but, in my defense-- u COMPLAINING of the ladies on Lost DOES make a REAL MAN *****SARCASM****** WONDER brotha.... sheesh. everything ook now honey???
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Darlton stated at Comic-Con that Jacob has never taken the form of another person.
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ull be gone by thursday so ill manage "reading" ur posts till then brotha...
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Faraday's constant.
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March 31, 2010, 1:22 a.m. CST
@Vikki Napa Ano deady Kitty Kitty ..bout that morailty thing
by MacFaux
André Previn. If I was flashed back to and into him... had control of time and all, I would have leveraged the favour of performing for Barack Obama's inauguration.. had the hard fella's of SAD aquire the Steinway D-274 and rig it to fall on Wooderson's head. Why?<br><br> http://tinyurl.com/ybcmmtq<br><br> You were typin somethin about bein 18 and all... ??
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or as Kitty would like GUYS ***SARCASM***. as 'ol Triumph would say kitty... I KEEEED...I KEEEED!!!
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Dogen. Dogen! What must a man do to get some of your magnificent art done for...<br><br> Dogen!
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Go vote, theres a poll currently going on Room 23's Muses page, Dogen's one of the choices so go vote for the next 9 characters. http://lostroom23muses.blogspot.com/
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You put up some big spoilers and i was curious where you got it.
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right side, scroll down http://lostroom23.blogspot.com/
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Im assuming that your refering to the ones that I posted on Room 23 Spoiler page? I found those at ODI/DarkUFO. I guess they have some contacts or something.
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I plan on doing all of those on the poll so even if Dogen is not picked I'll get to him eventually.
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please read my theory of 2 Christians early on in the talkback for today, Tuesday, above, and let me know what you think
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I always start there. And launch from, heh, actually.. I am sure I have voted...<br><br> you da man, Pa. Dogen!
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On gentle ground, I waited for you, <br> in drops of dew....<br> I wished that were you.<br> With heavy hands, I reached out for you, <br> my skin soaking wet..<br> My eyes search for you.<br> <br> It seems you've Lost your way, you've let it all fall apart,<br> Nothing's left here but you....<br> and All you do is remind me.<br> Now that we've Lost our way, the rest can all fall apart,<br> and All I see here is you..<br> All it does is remind me.<br> <br> With sharpened tongue, I cried out for you,<br> And must I refrain....<br> Now that I need you.<br> The autumn wind feels, as if it were you.<br> And swayed through the fields..<br> Where I once held you.<br> <br> It seems you've Lost your way, you've let it all fall apart,<br> Nothing's left here but you....<br> and All you do is remind me.<br> Now that we've Lost our way, the rest can all fall apart,<br> and All I see here is you..<br> All it does is remind me.<br> <br> Whistle through your window....<br> We act, the same as you..<br> <br> Whistle through your window....<br> We act, the same as you.. <br>
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March 31, 2010, 2:30 a.m. CST
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:JinSunHotelPackage.png
by GQtaste
Pic of Sun's cans on display: http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:JinSunHotelPackage.png
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Ladies and gentleman, that would be 99% of the plot of LOST. And i'm not even talking about the supernatural shit.
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As much as I enjoy LOST, it does seem like they are stalling for time rather than advancing the plot in every episode.<br />A good analogy, for those who watched it, would be Babylon 5. We divided the show into "arc" episodes, which were about the Shadow war, and the non-arc episodes. By the time season 3 rolled around, all the episodes were "arc" episodes. <br /><br />Lost never seems to have reached that point, but if there was ever a time it should have reached it, it was in the final run down of the last few episodes.<br /><br />Instead we got another flashback (this time in a flash sideways) and contractually mandated 1-2 lines for Frank, Miles, Kate, etc... just to remind us all that they are still there.<br /><br />And the aphasia had BETTER be very significant, because if it's not, it is one of the dumbest plot developments since Terri Bauer got amnesia.<br /><br />Now that the show is almost over, the Jin/Sun episodes stand out to me as the weakest and least interesting of the lot. (Slightly edging out Michael's and his perpetual searching for WAAAAAAAAAAAALT!!!)
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Yeah I saw that earlyer and thought that it was hilarious that "The Package" Title was right above that photo.
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Thank you Darlton and your many minions.. I keed ..Writers? Grand! Director? Grand! Actors? Grand! Craft Services? More vegetables. <br><br> I mean, c'mon man, every epi that has played from 1.5.. Daniel Dae Kim and Yunjin Kim just get better and better...and <br><br> ..all that sideways. Goddamn. If it was shit, I would so say...<br><br> But this epi, like the few past..well. I got somethin in my eye..<br><br> ..and a fitzky and a fish sandwich might make you feel better but...<br><br> Good Gods...That was some bonnie TV. so Grand. well done. well done.
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...that "Danny" is Daniel Faraday? Honestly, I first thought of Danny Pickett, who was killed by Juliet back in "Not in Portland".
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As The Scared Crow said in The Wozard of Iz "that would have blown my mind if I had a mind."<p>Before I get to it, two digressions:<p>1. If you want someone to go up and find something in a 700 post talkback, using the date/time stamp of when it was posted is convenient. "A Tale of Two Christians - 3/30-13:58".<o> Second, you may have heard this before but "paragraph breaks are your friend" Use the < p > and remove the spaces.<p>Okay, third - wow, length. I made my browser full screen and your post was the full height and more.<p>Okay, I admire that you state flat out that it's probably a wrong theory and you're just trying to get some discussion going. That's what I try with most of my crackpot theories here, too.<p>I'm not comfortable with the term ALT. Not because of the capslock. The Darlton has stated "It's not an alternate reality". Now, the Darlton lie to us all the time. but I'd prefer to restrict my theorizing to not including alternate realities and two-of-everything.<p>Even though they used an anagram for "reincarnation" for a business name, I'm not sure what that has to do with Lost anyway.<p>As I've mentioned plenty of times, I'm always the last Lost fan to embrace new directions. Theories about nanobyte smoke defense systems, introducing guys who get unstuck in time, a button that saves the world, Jacob and Mr. Mib? Every step of the journey I've felt like it was one more step too far into the twilight zone and a dozen more questions added to a show that already had plenty of weird and plenty of questions.<p>Is it possible that the note JJ handed to The Darlton just read "it just keeps getting weirder and weirder"?<p>I don't have answers or a counter-theory to yours. The idea of alternate versions of the same characters meeting Mirror Mirror style, the idea that there are 23 alternate Jack's, then your tossing in the non sequitur concept "maybe the show is set in 2014 and everything is a flashback"? I think you have an idea for a 650 page science fiction novel and some ideas way too complicated and complex to be played out over six more episodes of Lost, especially at the pace it's moving.<p>My old idea was that if Smokey can't move over water, Jacob can leave the island and Christian was seen in Jack's hospital and on the freighter, then maybe Jacob or a third Island entity was posing as Christian. But all the stuff with Hurley and Miles as Melinda and Eli has me considering the existence of Ghosts with no other explanation than "they're ghosts." Even Pa mentioned that Hospital Christian might be GhostyChristian. A Ghost Christian and a Mibby posing as Christian are all the two Christians I need.<p>I like to try cobbling together theories based on what we know and trying to fit the pieces together. You seem to have pieces here from two or three different puzzles. Well, did you ever take old spare parts from model kits and put them together to see what kind of spaceship you could make? I tried that a few times and enjoyed the results. It was fun.<p>The new Playboy had a interesting article about the therapeutic use of various psychedelic sacraments. Me, I stopped doing that over thirty years ago, otherwise I'd ask what you were using when you wrote that piece.<p>Bill, sorry I haven't sounded too positive here. Wish I could say "Oh I liked this bit, I agree with this part, I find this intriguing". Your piece pretty much made my head spin and think "What the? What's he on about?" But I don't want you to think of anything I said as overly negative, either. I like far out theories, I like psychedelic divergences, I like creative theorizing and, as I call it, talking the pieces of the puzzle of Lost and trying to see how they fit together. Yours felt like you had some of the pieces face down and some of the straight edged border pieces in the middle. But I certainly can't fault you for creativity and originality.<p>Go, write that novel. Peace.
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This is just a test, only a test run here. <p> Nothing to see here only a test. You can be all you can be Jay. Keep up the work of a deligent sycolfant for the board here. <p> Doens't bother me one bit. Don't listen to me, for I, would never be fair about certain aspects of this very popular show. And of course 'they' would never make it that dense or complacated for the mases. <p> When it's over..I'll just say this and there I go. Maybe it's because I didn't know you at all. <p> Freeze Frame. I'm so happy cause today i've found my friends and in my head i'm so ugly but that's ok b/c so are you. I"m a rocketman, oh rocketman. <p> as ever GQtaste
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Um, no. This episodes side-flashes picked up from the cliffhanger from LA X with the Kwons stopped by customs over the package of money and then proceeded chronologically forward from there.<p>I can see three possible reasons you might think this was a flashback episode, V'Shael, let me know if I'm close.<p>Darlton said "no more flashbacks this season" but obviously nearly all of the Richard Alpert episode as a flashback,so that's a lie.<p>2 The Island stuff is set in 2007 and all of the sideways flashes are set in 2004, so therefore they are all flashbacks.<p>3 or, because Keamy was killed in the Sayid sideflash episode, in events recapped off screen here, and those events occur at the same time, it seems that seeing Keamy alive in Jin's story after we saw him killed in Sayids story makes his appearances here a flashback rather than a retelling of the same events from a different POV.<p>But that wold suggest that you think that all of the sideflash stories are taking place in chronological order. that the Kate story took place after the LA X story - which I think is true, then everything in the Locke episode, the Jack episode, the Sayid episode and the Ben episode happened, not simultaneously in the days following LA X but one, after the other. I do not think this is correct. To cite one example, Locke was a substitute teacher, they usually only tay with a class for a few days until the regular teacher returns. Locke is assigned to a school in episode 6.3 The Substitute and is still at the same school in 6.6 Dr. Linus. If all of the events of episodes 4 and 5 had to take place between 3 and 6, then the substitute teacher would have been there for some time. I think most of the events of The Substitute and Dr. Linus could have happened on the same day(s). Same with Sundown (Sayid kills Keamy and Omar) and The Package (Jin hears Sayid kill Keamy and Omar. If I wanted to be sarcastic I'd ask if you thought that was a flashback to the previous time Sayid killed them. but I think I understand what you mean: that we saw a live Keamy and Omar even though they died in a previous episode. But relating the same events from different points of view is a common storytelling device, and with all due respect, I don't think that technically it is a "flashback". Of course, your opinion may differ.
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You are correct, in that we're splitting semantic hairs over whether I choose to call it a flashback and you don't.<br />However, I do think that the flash-sideways have been taking place chronologically.<br />The counter-example you cite, concerning Locke as a substitute, is invalid IMO. Locke was looking for work. Not 3 days work, or a weeks work. So I don't buy your "a few days" rationale. He could have been substituting for someone on maternity leave, for example. I never got the impression he was there for a few days only. I got the impression that he was going to be there for a while.<br />
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Oh, snap! I called it, yo! In your face, punk!
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Except that in this case the Package does not entirely take place after Sundown. The Kwon story picks up at the airport with the LA X cliff hanger and the scene where he hears the gunshots runs parallel to the Sayid story.<p>I agree. The Substitute and Dr. Linus could have happened on the one day Locke was at that school, or he might have been there for a month, or subbing in different classes. That example proves nothing. And the events in Sawyers ep had to happen after What Kate does because in WKD she wasn't yet caught by Officer Ford, so that's a point in favor of them being chronological.<p>But the term 'splitting semantic hairs' implies "different name for the same thing".<p>Showing the same chain of events from different points of view (Sayid kills Keamy and Omar, Jin hears the gunshots) is a different storytelling device than a conventional "flashback".<p>I might call Pulp Fiction" non chronological story-telling". You might say that most of that movie was flashbacks. I dunno, maybe we'd both be right.<p>But The Package told Sun & Jin's story in a direct, chronological and consecutive manner. At no point did they look back as something that happened previously to them. Instead the story Intersected with the Sayid episode. Keamy taking Jin to the restaurant happened before Sayid killed Keamy. But the stuff at Nadia's house happened before Keamy got to Sun's hotel room. But the Kwon's being released at the airport happened before the taxi arrived and Nadia's. They were two stories happening during the same time frames, unless you consider both episodes to be flashbacks to each other. Just doesn't fit my definition of a flashback.<p>I should just flashback to when I read the first three words of your reply, "you are correct" and leave it there. Instead I'm going to hit Post.
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Fair point, but glad you posted it anyway, since even if I don't agree, it ups the average signal/noise ratio on the talkback when sane people outnumber the trolls.<br />
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March 31, 2010, 4:48 a.m. CST
@Darkocity ..Oh, you think you can shine on me like the Sun?
by MacFaux
Where the fuck is your gran bonnie story? I'm waitin to read it, cocksucker!<br><br> "Believe me, even now in the forest, the blade would be between my teeth, me and you making our way stealthily forward. And as to us and him, if blood’s what it finally comes to, 100 years from now the forest is what they’ll find here.<br><br> Dewy morning’s LOST its appeal for me. I prefer to wake indoors. Dan! You don’t travel tonight! Come. Need of canned peaches, Johnny. Let’s collect the camp elders. Be baffled among friends, huh?"
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Getting that sick feeling in your stomach every time you 'forget' where you put your keys? <P> It's only a matter of time.<P>Better start training that 10 year old Malaysian boy how you like your ass wiped. <P>No. You DON'T get it. Not at all. You're not clever enough.<P>You're the one who 'lurves' throwing out the word 'Nazi'. You're the one that loves to insult people by using offensive gay innuendo or calling people 'girls' as if it's an insult to be gay or a woman.<P>Why so hostile to the women and the gays? Closeted gay with self-loathing issues? Or any woman that comes to your place is put off by the Costco-sized adult diaper boxes in the corner?<P>You didn't offer a truce, you offered an insult, the same you gave to several other people. And you are so very wrong on just about every assumption you make about me.<P> But as several other people have pointed out, you're good at Googling obscure references, snatches of other languages and book titles. Not so much at catching references, though. That would require actual intellect. What would Plato do, Otto?<P>Think you better go, now. I hear your dad saying something. I think it's "Poo Pants." Toodles.
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Call someone 'brotha' again. I implore you. You've said it a MILLION FUCKING TIMES and it keeps getting funnier every single time I see it.<P>You're the kind of twat that thought it was cool to say 'bruh' for bout 8 years, aren't you?<P>That gum you like is going to come back in style.
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...he points.
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I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Every day, once a day, give yourself a present. Don't plan it. Don't wait for it. Just let it happen.
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The man who was born too much wrote: "guess I should have typed ***SARCASM*** in my post.... huh Kitten??? it was a SEMI-JOKE DUMFUK!!!if u dont likey the ladies---I DONT CARE OK!!! but, in my defense-- u COMPLAINING of the ladies on Lost DOES make a REAL MAN *****SARCASM****** WONDER brotha.... sheesh. everything ook now honey???"<p>See you're still diggin that '90s leet" language, that's always fun. See you're still having trouble with your sticky capslock key. See you still can't spell fuck. And not that it's any of your business, but my ladies and I likey each other just fine.<p>So let's see, I posted that I was glad Lost finally had some sexy women in the cast this year, like Ilana, Zoe, Helen and Isabella. Somehow you decided the proper response to that would be to call me gay. I replied offering you a chance to step away from that tactic. Your choice is do defend it as "sarcasm" and a "semi joke". Meaning that you only half meant it. No, sorry, that doesn't make it ook, monkey boy.<p>Although I did enjoy this post from you, because I do know how to diagram a sentence. You say my complaining about (and I wasn't, I was praising) the women of Lost makes a real man [sarcasm] wonder. Now that's good, you're calling yourself a real man but pointing out that you're being sarcastic about it. Very modest and self effecing. Oops, typo. I meant to write "self effacing". I think "self effecing" would mean you shit on yourself. I'll just leave it like that, ook?<p>By the way, calling you a fuckstick was not an insult. It's just another word for penis. You don't mind being called a slang term for penis, do you? Over 48% of the people in the world have one. It's like being called a dink, a dick, a prick or a schmuck. Ook?<p>Now you being called "the man who was born to much" - that's an insult. How is it even possible to be born to much? Simple: One too many times. If you had only been born one less time, the world - and your family's lives, and those of everyone you've ever come in contact with - would have been so much better off. See, that's how you construct an insult, you homophobic little asswiper.<p>Come on,deny that one. Brag to the internet about how you never wipe your ass, you shit-slinging little monkey. Oook ook ook, brother.
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 ‍‍‍‍<br>...YOU REMIND ME TODAY OF A SMALL MEXICAN CHIHUAHUA.
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It could be because sometime during V, the actress who played Juliet said, "Don't tell me what I can't do." Yes, that happened. <P>Also, Damon tweeted, "A week from now, the conversation will be different." One would imagine he is getting people complaining about how the alt timeline doesn't seem to mean anything, and that this would change during the Desmond episode. <P>I, however, think the conversation he will have with ABC will be different, where he will ream them for showing that V countdown clock during LOST and he will compel them to never do that again to his baby. Nobody puts Baby in a corner. <P>Of course, they only did that because it was the first episode of V after a hiatus. Still, the conversation will be different...
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Enjoying the dialogue between you two. Good job.
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I thought the "package" could be one of two people--Aaron or Desmond. I guessed wrong.
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That made me laugh. Especially with it in all quotes. Didn't remember it at first, but knew who had to have said. <P>YOU ARE WITNESSING A FRONT THREE-QUARTER VIEW OF TWO ADULTS SHARING A TENDER MOMENT.
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Cripes.
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March 31, 2010, 6:56 a.m. CST
Please. Herc. Harry. Everyone who loves LOST.. REVOk! NAZI!
by MacFaux
Everyone! Witness! Seee how..this boy stalks? See his racist (Malaysian) ..pedophilia (10 year old) ..homophobic.. mean spirited. Evil. hmm. notions, come. fight. corrupt. destroy. A bonnie talk back..<br><br> Oh, my good gods, how insecure you must be lil boy...that you have to stalk me..screw up this talk back<br><br> Are you so insecure that you need to 'board' beat me? Wow. sad. Kid, I get it, you are too chicken shit scared to face me, you have to go after an old man (who could still at 7o-something beat your goofy, evil, nazi, Jew and Black hatin ass)<br> Look, I already, said you beat me..why go after an old man? Everyone! Look! It is the genius of Darryl!<br><br>..So, whatever dude, you got made a fool. Owned. Adain. I did not start the fight. I'm sorry, and I sincerely apologize...all your blah, blah, blah about your lurv and stalking of me won't make it any more less hateful or improve your evil nature..<br><br> I'm jus never gonna lurv ya...that way. But, heh, thanks again for fookin up this talk back that was going so well before your racist, homophobic, anti-semitic ass got here<br><br> Yeah, you told me what for, again, you are the boy, you own me, keeeeep on keepin on, I'm stupid, I'm ..whatever kid, and with your internet muscles, showin us all how tough you are, cause again, wee lil pussy, in a million years you would NEVER have the balls, pussy, to say it to my face, or my ..what was it ..yeah, "Poo Pants." father. chickenshit.<br><br> Anyways, I am your talk back bitch.<br><br> You told me..you are soooo much smarter than me, you are stronger, faster, all that..you are the boy!<br><br> Thanks for bringin your mensa and despicable to the folk again. Showin everyone all your good heart..and character. nice.<br><br> You are nothin but class.. nothin but class. And everyone can see your evil NAZI shame again.<br><br> May God Bless you and Keeep you... be good, Darryl and you other logins Darryl..<br><br> I'm sorry, gotta go and serve something more than myself. You wouldn't understand, kid. Someday, maybe. But obviously, not today.<br><br> Chickenshit Child.
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Forgetting how to speak english? motherfucker please!
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Full of pompous elitist neckbeard blowhards! <P> Keep it up Vikki/Macfaux... you're both clearly idiot-savants.
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seriously... go huff some more gasoline. <p> Fucking hell if i met someone like you in real life I'd have to hold myself back from beating you senseless. <P> aaaaand cue Nonsensical Macfaux-tard response in 3...2...
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You are the expert about that. right. right? Oh. You just popped in to be insulting. Sorry. I'm toooo stupid to get your funny. <br><br> But I'm sure others got a giggle...
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yeah..<br><br> God damn.<br><br> Chickenshit parade...I should know better... watch the clock ..when the Euro-trash arrives, the talk back, like the World gets fucked up.<br><br> Anyway, tough Champ, you can Gooogle me, send me an e-mail, tell me where and when on the continent you want to square off. assume a combat stance. chickenshit. <br><br> I'll be back in 12-18 hours..but let me just say... Thanks. thanks for bringin peace, love and, understanding ..and happpy fun to a talk back that was goin so well (before the Euro's got here) again. again.
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seriously.
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Back to basics with things I love. Dharma, Widmore, sonic fences, Mikhail, Keamy, Sayid, Desmond, geoPHYSICS, and ROOM 23!!! As much as I loved last week's, that devil talk scared the shit out of me.
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I cant wait to see this on thursday night. back to my post. Christian was jacobs replacement. jacob was killed by unlocke. once the sheperd family is reunited by ben. jack will take over his fathers role. jack will be killed by sayid. something happens to kate. something bad. sawyer will blame jack. sawyer said at the star season 6 that he wanted jack dead. Sayid as we know now has got no compassion and is souless. the battle for the soul of the island will continue.
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kate gets caught in shoot out and gets killed.
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...of global industrialists that clandestinely control many things? Destined to have Des marry & reproduce w/ Sun?????
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I've been testing it. It's amazing how cleaner the screen looks when it's not filled with "You're a tard!" "No, you're a tard!" "I would so fuck you up" "You'd like that,FAG!" etc...<br /><br />Seriously recommended for anyone who wants a better AICN experience.
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So now this douche is just the big bad?<p>This does not bode well for the end. I fell the viewers are going to be "Locked".<p>Hopeful with the best of intentions, then murderd. Your welcome.
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but another great ep
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lots of people guessed it was him in that room, lots of people were right.
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hot hot body, and always beautiful
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Yeah we all knew he was on that sub but god damn if that doesn't put a smile on my face. We now know he is going to be a very big part of the end game here. I think somehow he will be the link between the "regular" world and the sideways world. And if you read between the lines from Lindelof's tweet, things will start getting more clear next week!
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March 31, 2010, 8:27 a.m. CST
would've been nice to see a more triumphant des entrance:
by thekylegassproject
like him sailing in on some derelict vessel, holding the sail true with his teeth, using one hand to support the mast and the other to clutch a photo of penelope and little charlie to his chest.<p> yes
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...instead of unceremoniously being pulled out of the sub drugged up to the gills on that i-don't-give-shit-shot of valium cocktail they give you just before you go under for surgery.
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I don't hate your father. I have no ill will for him other than he may or may not have helped spawn you. Or your mother is a cheating whore. Take your pick.<P>Your father is not harmed one bit by my having some fun. In fact, I think he may have volunteered for the Alzheimer's to forget about you.<P>"Daddy! Look! I copied and pasted GREEK this time. And it's in BOLD!!!"<P>I don't blame the man one bit. Dumbass.
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"Herc! Herc! They're picking on me! Wah!!! I dared them to find information about me on the internet and they did! Wah!!!"<P>Change your own fucking diaper after your father's. I smell a full load.
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With Patrick Duffy getting out of the shower, and Victoria Principle telling him: "I just had the craziest dream."<br /><br />That would be awesome. Then Kate and Juliette get out of the shower, too. Then Jack and Locke, and Victoria Principal screams.
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I'm blocking MacFaux, Darryl_Revok and jay2517. And already this Talkback is crazy better to read. It's awesome.<br /><br />That being said, I would have preferred if Locke had taken a pound of flesh from Widmore and his portable sonic fence. "You think this is gonna stop me? Me?"
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Someone probably noted this earlier, but it was quite clear that the reason for the aphasia was tied to the fact that she couldn't speak English in the flashes. I'm not sure if that is relevant to the meaning of the flashes (realities converging, as I once heard suggested), or if it's just "clever" storytelling, but either way, it feels like a waste of time.<br /><br />I was one of the few here who wasn't a big fan of the S3 finale because nothing really happened (we knew Charlie was gonna die all season and that Penny was heading to the island), aside from the gimmick of the flash forwards. It was a shocking moment, that didn't advance the story. I feel like we're being set up for the same thing here. Everyone will go "wow" and then look back and realize that all we got was surprise, but very little substance. I hope I'm wrong though.<br /><br />Oh yeah, thanks for the review V'Shael!
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Well....this season has definitely been interesting. I remain 100% confident that it all will tie together beautifully, and the flash-sideways are going to be very important..... However.... I'm also in the camp of people who are getting pissed with this season. It's not as if it's a "bad" season, it's just....a lot of stalling. Think about it: SEASON 6 ON-ISLAND CURRENT STORY: -The Smoke Monster is recruiting people to get him off the island -Jacob is communicating with Hurley to recruit people and protect the island ....and, well.....that's kind of been it. I can write a bunch of little things, but they all can be summarized with those 2 sentences. We're 10 episodes in, and all we've been doing is spending time with both camps, just kind of waitin' 'er out. No deaths, no giant revalations, nothing. Just kind of dancing around the inevitable: A confrontation. In terms of the flash-sideways, I do enjoy them. I've also recognized that we're probably done with seeing the new ones (all that's left is Hurley, and maybe Desmond). At first, I liked the idea of seeing how all these characters' lives would've been different if the plane hadn't crashed. The idea of seeing a life go right when it could've gone left is interesting. But I agree they've gotten repetetive, even if the concept remains interesting. As I said before, I still maintain these are all very much going to lead to something big. There's no way Lindelof & Cuse are just going to say, "Well, we have to kill some time...I know! Let's just tell a what if? story that won't go anywhere!" No way they're that dumb. The one thing that I've noticed about this season, more than the others, is the dialogue and interaction has gotten a little too hokey. In past seasons, even though we complained about it, stale scenes involved genuine character interaction (Sawyer stealing the meds, Hurley & co. fixing the car, etc.) Those scenes were at least characters talking in normal dialogue. Now, every conversation is extremeley plot-driven, and a bit over-the-top. We've gone from Locke & Jack quietly interacting in the Hatch, to a cloaked-Japanese guy using an interpreter in a building we haven't seen in 5 seasons? Come one now. It feels more like the dialogue is solely there to move the plot forward, rather than simply interaction. I don't know if that makes any sense, but hopefully you see my point. If I hear "Why are you telling me this?" one more time, my head will explode. But I still love the show, and I know the ending won't disappoint. Heads will role, big things are about to happen, and I remain optimistic that the season will be regarded at a higher level when all is said and done..........we just have to GET there....
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between realities 1 and 2. That's why he's so important to stop all this mess... or getting it messier? <p> Everything. Changes.
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I agree
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spoken on the line from the ep stating that if UnLocke gets off the island, existence will, umm, cease to exist?
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...are enslaved by time and space.
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Or a work of art. It's meant to be enjoyed for how it is constructed, for the ingenious rhymes and recurring themes and how light and shadow make objects out of negative spaces. <br /><br />That's why it works best watching in sequence, preferable 5 or 8 episodes at a time. It's a leviathan, like Paradise Lost (or the Stand), best experienced with as little interruption as possible.<br /><br />That's why the "all we got was surprise, but very little substance" doesn't bother me at all. It's like admiring beautiful architecture. Story? What story? It's a beautiful cathedral! That's what has me hypnotized. <br /><br />When I reflect on what a monumental achievement Lost has been--I would never have imagined such for a serial television show--I'm just blown away. It would be hard for anything to disappoint me now.<br /><br />Although I still really favor the "Patrick Duffy getting out of the shower" end to the show. At least put it as an extra on the DVD!<br /><br />And, thanks again, Maltheus.
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March 31, 2010, 9:49 a.m. CST
What I don't like is how all of a sudden Ben doesn't know
by Coughlins Laws
anything about anything. He really doesn't have any clue what they should be doing now or what the smoke monster is up to after being part of The Others for 30 years and being their leader for 20 years? Really?
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Not a linear plot type of story. In the tone poem, characters loop and rhyme. Locke is the man of faith, Jack the man of science. Then Locke loses faith and then Jack becomes faithful. Jacob seems good then bad, MIB seems bad then good. Locke follows, Ben leads, then Locke leads and Ben follows. Kate stays then goes, incites and then resists the things she incited. And so did Juliette. <br /><br />The Island cures cancer, then causes cancer. It's a Yin/Yang, snake eating it's tail, palindrome form of poetry. Ben knew everything, now he knows nothing. <br /><br />Just chill and let the experience of it wash over you.
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And I theorized it was Desmond, I was partially correct! HOORAY! <p> But now it makes you wonder if Jacob needed Widmore or needed Desmond to come back. Will the name "Wallace", number 104, mean something in the end?
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March 31, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST
Yes I too fully expect to see Desmond jumping through time
by D.Vader
... And space. Which is why he popped up on the plane in the Flash Sideways. <p> And I fully expect him to pop up on V to see Juliet, and to pop up on FlashForward to see Charlie, the namesake of his son, and Penny who believe they are totally different people.
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March 31, 2010, 10:21 a.m. CST
David19- the Flash Sideways are when Smokey leaves the Island
by D.Vader
My friend, immediately after this episode ended, said "So the Flash Sideways are what happened when Smokey leaves the Island, huh." <p> Which makes sense, from a certain pov, considering everyone says if he gets off, you'll lose everyone you've ever cared about, etc etc. As in, the present is erased completely.
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When he was talking to Smocke, he said that all he knew of him were ghost stories, fairy tales and whispers in the dark. Apparently its true, the Others really didn't know ANYTHING about Smokey.
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Especially if he had a secret weapon to use against Smokey, which wasn't set up yet.
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March 31, 2010, 10:38 a.m. CST
Well, if that's true, what were The Others doing on the
by Coughlins Laws
island for decades, or even centuries? Just killing time? Ben has to know something about what the place is. For him to be totally lost in the wilderness seems to be a bit of a stretch...
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...was to get off the island, why did he kill the Pilot in the pilot episode of the series? <p> Wouldn't it have made more sense to keep a man capable of flying a plane alive on the island in case another vehicle capable of flight was able to be "brought" to the island? <p> Still, I loved the episode and I agree that the timelines are converging although I have no idea what that means.
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I think he really doesn't know anything about Smokey and is lying about coming back to keep him corked in. I don't buy any of it.
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. . . it only took a week to see a MUCH better epidsode than the Richard Alpert snooze fest everyone is calling the BEST EPISODE EVER . . .
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The proper way to relay Desmond's catchphrase in text is BR-OO-THA Say it with me everyone BROOTHA
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Were supposed to be Jacob's proof against MiB that humans can be good and enlightened. Of course, not all of them were, and many turned out to be angry and murderous. But, ah, that's humanity for you.
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so they were all on the island for approx. 3months before the "oceanic 6" left and then 3years went by before those 6 returned. so just curious how long have they been back. i figured it must only be like a week or 2 if even that long.
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No matter how many times we point out that Darlton said Jacob has NEVER appeared as someone else, some of you keep assuming he has. Despite the fact he was still alive and in corporeal form during many of those appearances?<br /><br />No matter how many times MIB says he's been trapped on this Island and can't float off of it in smoke form, some of you are going to keep suggesting he was Christian in the Hospital or on the Freighter?<br /><br />I'm starting to think LOST Fans are suffering from X-Files Syndrome. You've been jerked around so many times that even when the show gives you explicitly stated answers in the final season, you don't believe them. Your theories have become more important to you than actually paying attention to the show itself.<br /><br />As irritating and trollish as Oliver Hague is, you have to grant him one thing. He pays attention to the show. He may dislike what's happening on it, but he's not closing his eyes and putting his fingers in his ears and saying LALALALALA anytime the show or the show's creators or another talkbacker points out things that contradict his pet theories.<br /><br />The rest of you wasted a fucking week arguing over whether or not The Black Rock and a Tidal Wave could knock over a Statue. It Can on LOST. It Did on LOST. Deal with it and Move On.
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Because in FlashSideways, she is NOT a Kwon. Maybe a stupid theory. But I think Jin is the only Kwon candidate as a result. And I absolutely for several episodes have thought the LA X world is the one in which MIB is loose. But Jack's son, I predicted was a "once and future son" and maybe Jack and Kate have an island romance, she goes back to the real world, pregnant. And names the child David. But who knows. Desmond is obviously needed for the electromagnetic pockets. Maybe that is how they catch MIB. After all, what happened to Desmond after he switched the Hatch key? He showed up naked, ala Terminator, and so methinks he'd been bouncing around in time.
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imagine if the reason he was naked is because he was just about to get it on with penny and then poof, he disappeared. that must suck cuz god knows she woulda.
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"Hopefully Ollie Hague won’t come over to this talkback to distract from all the fun and camaraderie, and yeah, the fighting too"<br /><br />If he does, I'll just add him to my list of blocked people using Maltheus's script, then I'll never see what he posts, and won't worry about it.<br /><br />That script is totally awesome. Which I may have mentioned before.<br /><br />That being said, my only problem with watching season 6 is that the week-to-week episode thing breaks up the rhythm. I look forward to being able to sit down and watch all of season 6, one after the other, over a couple of days. <br /><br />I originally got into Lost watching season 1-4 and the first part of season 5 all in a row. And I have just recently re-watched everything, including season 5, in a row. It's a great way to absorb the show, and when you do it that way, it comes across as epic, and I don't worry that Jack and Locke basically switch personalities, or that Eko and Locke switch personalities about the Swan hatch, or that Hurley never loses any weight. It's just epic. Like running across a 2000 year old Grecian sky-scraper emblazoned with the finest filigree. <br /><br />I also listened to all the Harry Potter novels on audio that way, over a period of a week-and-a-half, and enjoyed a similar effect. Some things are best enjoyed when you immerse yourself in them. I've frequently done the same thing with Cerebus the Aardvark and Lord of the Rings. I just jump in with both feet, and take big bites, and try and engage them completely as they are, not as I wish to complain about them being, and I usually have a great experience. Even if I've been through them several times before.
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He pays attention to Lostpedia and reference sites like that.
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. . . why do you think Widmore referred to Desomond as "the package?"
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Certainly didn't think of that. Jin makes sense. Afterall, Sun didn't travel back in time. But her really being a Paik, and the name being written down long ago, seems to imply Jin is the Candidate, not her.
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March 31, 2010, 11:21 a.m. CST
Wishmaster got spelled with one 'eye' last night!
by YoyodynePropulsionSystems
Awesome they brought back Mikhail for the tie in.
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I wish there was some way too do a side TB, cuz I don't want to derail anything, but last week you were arguing with someone, I forget who, over the fact that there was no video evidence of something happening(it involved spit). Well there is now. You can find it pretty easy.
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What was the deal with someone saying the map wasn't of the island? Is there any validity to that? It looked like the same map from season 5 when Sawyer was talking to Jin about the 6 returning. So I think we've seen it before.
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Its a map of the Island. <p>http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2010/03/episode-6x10-package-room-23.html
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Well in his defense, I think Ollie Plague actually watches the show AND refers to other sources. But I really don't want to defend him. Hahaha.<br /><br />I'm just trying to figure out when these talkbacks became a competition to come up with the least likely crackpot theory. When people start suggesting that Jacob and MIB are time or reality displaced versions of the same person, or that the numbers represent how many times each Candidate has been reincarnated, it's time to consider calling in Nurse Ratched and the guys in the white uniforms.<br /><br />KWON-42. Somebody do the math. How many Centuries ago would this thing have to have started for Kwon to be on their 42nd incarnation? Did Kwon-1 design Jacob's statue? Yeah, that's what happened.<br /><br /> And Jacob is Aaron. And MIB is Charlie Hume. And his Daddy Desmond has come back to the Island to spank him for accidentally turning himself into a Black Nanobot Smoke Monster and knocking himself and Aaron into Grandpa Widmore's experimental machine which turns you immortal and sends you back in time simultaneously during one of his and Aaron's playdates. Why Not?
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Widmore's crew didn't seem to care much about killing UnLocke's team, or doing much to UnLocke when he paid a visit. They seem more concerned with the map and some shit Jin did back in the Dharma days. They're up to something having to do with Donkey Wheel / energy pocket, and need Desmond's help to do whatever. Getting rid of Smokey is probably not their primary objective, imo, maybe secondary, but who knows.
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"In one week, the conversation is going to change." I'm calling it right now. Damon's referring to an actual conversation that occurs in the show. Specifically, one between Alt James Ford and Alt Juliet. At some point during their meet cute, Juliet will suddenly start talking as if she was trapped under a pile of debris, about to die. We'll finally get to hear what Island Juliet was trying to say to Island Sawyer in her past moments, instead of the presumed bleed-through from Alt-verse. That could be cool.
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How hilariously awesome would it be if you were right? What if you're watching the finale and all that shit starts to happen? Granted it would make the show kinda suck, but you'd have feel pretty cool for calling it on a joke.
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By "past moments", I meant to type "last moments".
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I'm secretly hoping it's that crazy. I mean if they want to top the finales of Twin Peaks and The Prisoner, they really have to, as Lord Buckley would say: Go Full Goose Bozo.<br /><br />If Ji Yeon is the girl MIB lost back when they were kids, that would just be the cherry on top wouldn't it?
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Agreed. It seemed pretty clear last night, that myself and many others were wrong about "the war" being between Jacobs side and MiBs people. It's MiB Vs. Widmore, but kinda sorta just by coincidence. Widmore wants the island, he needs Jin to do it, but yeah, he couldn't care less about MiB other than not wanting to be killed by him. I think he was full of shit when he told Jin he was just trying to keep MiB contained.
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Well, when you think about it, what you laid out, if you wrote the shit out of it, and covered all your bases, would actually be a pretty cool story.
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Crackpot theories I mean. Even way back in Season 1, pple didn't want to believe tht Locke had been healed by the Island. I remember reading theories that Locke, whatever his accident was, had mentally convinced himself that he was disabled, and it took the plane crash to dislodge that thought from his head, as if his willpower was all that kept him from walking. <p> And Jacob and MiB as time-displaced entities, while I don't believe it, isn't that crazy considering all the time-traveling in the past, and bc of the Island's crazy nature. Remember when pple claimed Ben and Widmore were time travelers too? And the rules had something to do with killing someone in the past when they weren't supposed to die and whatnot? <p> Yeah a lot of it is ridiculous, but sometimes I enjoy reading what crazy new theory someone has come up with now. <p> BUT, on the Jacob appearing as someone else point- I didn't know the producers said he had never done that. I don't believe good Christian was ever Jacob. But I DO think there is something else that Locke saw, the bright white light, and I hope we get an answer there.
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Widmore is Team Widmore. Smokey is just a myth to him. Widmore didn't really care about Jacob's will, as evidenced by his order to kill Rousseau and her innocent baby. Widdy is just a selfish old man who wants the Island for nefarious reasons.
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Posting links here at AICN causes spaces to appear, you just have to find them and erase them. <p> this works too http://tinyurl.com/ycyn37o
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Even if Widmore doesn't care about Smokey, question remains though why Widmore's team just didn't take care of Unlocke's team, once they had Jin. Maybe they're trying hard not to piss off Smokey? Seems to me they should have known that they're eventually gonna have to fight anyway at some point.
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There does seem to be some level of control to Smokey. Bens little closet plug. Maybe Widmore is trying to keep him around, so that once the island is his he has protection. Sort of.
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March 31, 2010, 12:51 p.m. CST
McGoo, the guy didn't spit, he was yelling. Just like I said
by Coughlins Laws
Have you EVER seen anyone, anywhere spit on someone while they were cupping their mouths like a poor man's megaphone? There was ZERO evidence of ANYONE yelling the N-Word, even though there were dozens of cameras rolling, hundreds if you count camera phones. You mean to tell me not ONE SINGLE PERSON could've picked up someone calling that Congressman, who has a history of calling people racist with no proof except his own word? Listen, if you want to be an honest person just go back 2 years to see the amount of vitriol and death threats and comparisons to Hitler the Left made towards Bush. It's not even close. Just enter Bushitler in any search engine. Just look at the comment threads of the dailykos and The Huffington Post, laughing at conservatives dying and wishing death on Bush and Cheney. But I guess you want to ignore that?
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...a full transform of Unlocke into Smokey (or vise-versa). Perhaps in the finale, when they use up the remaining budget for the show.
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You should use it if you want to talk about this.
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Did anyone find out what this was about? On Canadian TV, Evangeline Lily appeared in a newer shampoo comercial during Lost... it seemed odd, and for some reason I thought maybe he was referring to this (but they probably ran different commercials on the US broadcast).
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In regards to smokey transforming, I do not think the LOST CG team is capable of doing anything worth seeing on screen. Just look at the submarine from last year and the underwater island from LA X. They seem to be using Playstation 1 hardware for their CG effects.
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What, do you miss him already? Why keep mentioning him by name? Are you daring him to show up after he stated he'd be gone until the series finale talkback? Do you think if you challenge him to appear if he shows up you can call him a liar and if he doesn't you can pretend you scared him off? Half of the last talkback was by him, to him or about him. He nearly upstaged Lost in a Lost talkback. Aren't you afraid that if you call him out by name that you may summon him like some evil genie or slasher film fantasy monster?<p>Oh, hi, Coughing Slaw. I was talking about someone else, but while you're here, try this shoe on and see if it fits.
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I don't know who the actor is, but he really knows how to play a charismatic villain. I love the whole "want some eggs" scene with Sayid a few eps ago. Hopefully he'll get some more high profile roles, because I think he's a great actor.
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I did use paragraph breaks. I'm guessing you're using firefox, because sometimes they don't show up in there. I used </BR> over </BR> and over </BR> and Over </BR> you probably even can't see these, so whats the point. On my screen, in IE, I see paragraph breaks.
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He was a great villain in season 4, and he is channeling Christopher Walken in the flash sideways. One thing LOST does great is finding great character actors to be a part of the show.
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That was fist pumper for me.
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Last week in the hold the smoke entered and formed a vaguely humanoid shaped pillar and I thought they were going to show the morph. Turned out to be a tease.<p>I don't know how expensive that particular CGI SFX stunt is. It was impressive in T@, just cute in that Michael Jackson Black and White video. a year later it was turning up in a local used car lot commercial. If they just show a waist up 3/4 view of NonLocke just standing still and talking or pointing for five seconds, then pixelate it, convert him to smoke and have it drift away, then reverse it so the smoke comes in and turns to Locke, then quick cut to whoever he's talking to with a reaction shot expression on their face, that would probably be do-able on the shows budget.<p>Someone in a previous talkback pointed out and listed examples of times when they could have shown Island Magick and didn't. The Island moving. "He vanished before my eyes" and so on. Seems like it's not a question of budget, though some of the Lost sfx have been sub-par, hand you that. It's more like they just don't want to turn the show into Sabrina and have the silly special effects distract from the drama. Or as someone else said, the best special effects are in your head, because that way you see exactly what you want to see.
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was Goth Claire. I'm not a huge Claire fan, but when she had black hair she was a knockout. Kate's hot, but her annoyingness knocks her down from an 8 to a 5.
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...is pissin me off wit this fate shit... if they had actually build up his transformation to fatehood, i wouldnt be mad... but his name bein scratched in wood and seein a google satelite pic of his old house dont mean shit... other than that ALL island stuff been good
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...will Jin be brainwashed by Room 23?
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SPOILER WARNING!! The guest list for next weeks episode is JUICY!!
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Disagree. Jack's transformation has been building up since he left the island.
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In the flashbacks, Jin met Sun and the only way he could marry her was to go work for her father. In the sideways flashes, they're not married, and Keamy made it clear that Jin worked for Mr. Paik and started doing his daughter, then Mr. Paik found out. I don't know the signifigance, but it's an interesting difference.
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In a talkback filled with interesting discussion and theories, I just can't take the time to read pseudo-intellectual drivel.
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And don't you think that seniors will die prematurely when $500 Billion is cut from Medicare?
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Not to pimp my script too much, but if you use firefox and install the greasemonkey addon, you can use this script to block out his posts (as well as fix some other things about AICN, like newlines and cut off subject headers):<br /><br />http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/72709<br />
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March 31, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST
Sithmenace, I think it is to show us that Jin is the Kwan
by Coughlins Laws
that is a candidate and NOT Sun...
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Yes.
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Im still not convinced that the Alternate reality is a reality created by Smokie. I think its result of the bomb.
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I'll try it out. Thanks.
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...i disagree... last season finale he was like fuck the world (by blowin up the island) then after the lighthouse, he became all faithful (and this is all in like two days)
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Widmore asked Jin about the electromagnetic pockets that he had signed off on on the map. Im wondering if the energy has somewhat the same effect of the sonar fences on MIB? Will it kill or further trap MIB. Or does Widmore want to use it to give others the same time/space jumping ability? Or to use it to connect the island with LA X?
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it wouldn't really prove anything. For example, if there were candidates in the side world, we haven't found out about them, so the list could just as easily read Paik instead of Kwon. In the normal world we have seen the list, but they're married, so it says Kwon. <p>Although the fact that she was shot might mean something, since if there were candidates in the side world she technically wouldn't be able to get shot.
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I understand people saying that not a lot is happening but conversely, as we move towards an endgame, the characters don't appear to be doing too much that is out and out ridiculous or time wasting. This means the likes of Jack (who isn't being an illogical twat to further the story) is coming across rather better.<P> <P> Agree it was obvious that Locke could have had the sonic fences down in a second - not sure what he was waiting for ?<P> <P> The Kwons story was difficult. Because we don't see some characters do anything meaningful for vast wedges of time its hard to re-engage with them. Jin being sidelined for so long made it seem odd that he should suddenly be so pivotal for Widmore.<P> <P> If they are simply not just being clever and the synchronicities between the two realities mean something then that is one decent thing from the episode.<P> <P> The other interesting aspect is that Jacob has previously talked of MIB being corruption loosed on the world but Widmore talks of a reality ceasing to exist. Makes for a confusing but interesting slew of possibilities.<P> <P> Quibbles :<P> <P> Keamy's teeth always bother me.<P> <P> Its Tom Mart Oh - not Tom Mate Oh ! Bloody Americans - That one annoys me only marginally less than exscape.<P> <P> Sayid soulless is a boring unentertaining fucker.<P>
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I think the Alternate world is simply a result of the universe course correcting because when the bomb went off, it would have created a paradox. But its still not perfect. Something must be done to bring the two realities together or the universe will fall apart. Desmond is the key.
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March 31, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST
You're right, sithmenace, it could mean nothing. But
by Coughlins Laws
you would have to think they're showing us some kind of significance and leaving us clues in this flash-sideways that we can look back on later and say, "Oh, yeah! X makes sense now..." Who knows I choose to stay out of most of the speculation but it just seems to me that they weren't just showing us random events. They seem to have to be tied together somehow...
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March 31, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST
As far as you, McGoo, choose to live your life with your
by Coughlins Laws
head in the sand. I don't care. You seem to lack the ability of critical thinking. Not everything is static and in a vacuum. Sometimes you have to read between the lines. You see, there's a reason that the vast majority of Americans are against this Health Care Boondoggle and are mad that the Democrat Majority and this President just "spit in the face" of the American people by passing this, even though poll after poll for almost a year showed that the majority of Americans DID NOT WANT IT...
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will find Death Panels on the Island? Or will she be able to see Russia from Hydra Island? Tune in next week to find out.
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...in the flash sideways, every time one of candidates looks into the mirror e.g. Jack in LAX, Sun in latest episode, they seem to experiencing something. Déjà vu possibly? Well it got me thinking… what if the flash sideways is the original version of events, as it has always been since day 1. What if the events on the island are a lost version of reality? What if the flash sideways world ends with them discovering this lost world or maybe even generating a cataclysmic event that creates this lost reality (not the other way round). Maybe LOST has always been about what could have happened to us but was lost through the choices we made.
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...in the flash sideways, every time one of candidates looks into the mirror e.g. Jack in LAX, Sun in latest episode, they seem to experiencing something. Déjà vu possibly? Well it got me thinking… what if the flash sideways is the original version of events, as it has always been since day 1. What if the events on the island are a lost version of reality? What if the flash sideways world ends with them discovering this lost world or maybe even generating a cataclysmic event that creates this lost reality (not the other way round). Maybe LOST has always been about what could have happened to us but was lost through the choices we made.
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You've said you've read a lot of spoilers. Are your theories taking them into account? I wonder this about others here too but you seem civil enough to answer. :)
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But I've been chalking the differences in their lives up to the butterfly effect. But it doesn't really make sense because things would have evolved radically different with just minor changes in their lives. So I think what it's going to end up being is fate. People have free will and can do things differently, but their lives are still going to take the same basic paths. <p>Maybe the choices we make are going to be similar regardless of what situation we're in, so the consequences of our actions force us to repeat our decisions. For example, in the flash sideways Sayid tries to forget his past, but because of who he is, his past finds him and he's forced to kill again. I think part of the message is that we are responsible for our fate, even though our fate is a consequence of our individual nature. Plus maybe I'm just talking out of my ass.
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Whoa. Nice.
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No All I know is what will be answered (I don't even know what the answers are), and who will die before the finale.
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the idea to me that maybe the Sonar Fences and the pckets are related and I have added to it.
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Your claim that $500 billion is going to be cut from Medicare and that our elderly will die prematurely from it is a gross misrepresentation of the facts and unabashed fear mongering.<p> That $500 billion is a cut in GROWTH of spending. It would cut inefficiencies and strengthen the core services of Medicare. Now there might be payment adjustments, meaning medical workers providing for the elderly may not see continued salary increases but their services would not be reduced. Making it more efficient. You know? CONSERVATIVE stuff?<p> It will also cut out the benefits that go beyond traditional Medicare like Medicare "Advantage" that are nothing more than money grabs for unscrupulous insurance companies who would have probably denied seniors certain benefits for pre-existing conditions anyway. Tu take your ignorant, misleading rhetoric to your next teabagging milita meeting. Kay?
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Thanks. Not long to go now. Even if the answers don’t fulfil the burden of our questions, the ride has been worth it. It’s always been about the journey…because ‘the end’ can never be as satisfying as that.
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..the promotional pics from next week's episode on DarkUFO. Kinda bizzaro. heh
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Very strange. What the hell is that thing?
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Thank god for this new script, now I can ignore political bitchfests that are totally unrelated to the talkback! Thank you Maltheus!!!
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Shut up with the political bullshit, good lord.
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if things get this bad in a simple talkback, imagine if AICN had its own chatrooms...my god. lol
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Chatrooms are too messy and busy.
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Why do you all think that Widmore wanted to know about the pockets of energy? How can he use them?
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.......ought to maybe construct additional pylons. Or "Locke" is going to send his little zerg army to decimate it. Sorry. Thats all I got. Great episode, especially in terms of Jin/Sun-based eps.
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think we will be heading back to the wheel, down the well. <p> Still hoping that its thought that using the energy of the island it can destroy Smokey, destroy the evil. What I think they will find out is that it will destroy this reality and create a new one. Jack being the one to cause it to happen . <p> Widmore, agree with others, can't be trusted, for him I think he just wants to control the island. <p>
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Interesting comment to Tina Fey/ Zoe was in regards to kidnapping Jin too soon, so clearly he has a plan, does he have knowledge of the future?, re from Eloise ?
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One for those of us who do not want any spoilers in any way, shape, form, or fashion. One for those who want to discuss in detail the spoilers they've seen.
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The magic box that controls fate and ultimately gives you omnipotence.
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Was maybe the doorway to the alt universe and Cooper was pulled over from there.
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since Kate leaning over the well to save Juliette in last season's finale. Ah Sawyer def has the best lines. "No cause that would be ridiculous."
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A nice change up from the cinematic adventure last week.
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He's known here in Canada as mostly a stand-up comedian. I remember seeing him do Yuk-Yuk's (comedy chain that launched Jim Carrey) a couple of times. I guess with his size he was inevitably to become an action actor.
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The Wire <br> Kingpin <br> The Corner <br> NYPD Blue <br> Homocide: Life on the Street <br> ER <p> ...to name a few
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...to take a fucking bath?
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Maybe Kate could take her out to her bathing spot and help her scrub down.
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has been brilliant in Lost, even with his relatively short scenes this season, he has always been comnading and definitely charismatic. <p> Hope to see more of him on quality TV. <p>
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We've got 1. The Swan <p> 2. The Frozen Donkey Wheel <p>3. ... ? <p> Any guesses? The Temple? The Lighthouse?
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I'd love to see him do comedy. All I've seen him in is Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me as the assassin in the club who keeps trying to kill Austin, but Austin keeps using Mrs. Spitz/Swallows as a shield. <p> Christopher Walken does comedy and drama well. Durand needs an awesome script to shine.
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March 31, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST
Vader - surely has to be either the Temple or lighthouse
by Miyamoto_Musashi
Did anyone get a screencap of the map Tina Fey/Palin/Zoe showed Jin. Regards Justin
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Mystery, Alaska. small funny role as 'Tree' ..the look on his face when he sees actual NY Rangers ..priceless.<br><br> But ..me like Hockey!
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Rose was doing the nasty with Chuck on the side, and he is really torn up about her cancer. He wants to make sure she has plenty of energy left for him when they get back together and they off Bernard.
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March 31, 2010, 10:31 p.m. CST
Not really a spoiler from darkufo-- comment on a pic
by jimbojones123
That is one big looking headphone in the one picture.
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Mystery Alaska is such a fantastic film. Surprised we haven't seen more of Durand since. He has had a great screen presence in the film and this show. I really feel sorry for him in Wolverine though. Him and Dom did were written in such a crappy way for their characters. Nothing like Blob or Beak.
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Heavy mange factor going on there.
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i was screwing around with Kitten about his post mmmk??? u are truly a "unique" person. now, excuse me while i go throw my poop...
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I musta missed it on Colbert -- I'm stuck on the peeps report.
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i use BROTHA cause Des is the man!!! hes one of my favorite characters and storylines. now, go FUK (look VIKKI!!) OFF BROTHA...
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that was a good theory on Jin being the Kwon. never thought of that. good analysis broheim...
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Really. More than any movie in quite a while. I just hope it is as fun as it looks and does not get bogged down in melodrama.
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I endorse. I praise. I thank.<p>homophobic punks and politicians no longer exist in this dojo.<p>http://user scripts.org/scripts/show/72709
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*cough* Vikki *cough* damn...
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HOLY CRAP -- this will be the dreamiest episode to date!
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as he is in the "current" timeline. has he always been special or did the island just release his "specialness" or its all island "majik" lol...
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I step out to install Power Mod, go visit the Human Target talkback, come back to see five gray bars from "click to show banned user". Maltheus, again, my thanx.
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all is right in the world lol...
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March 31, 2010, 11:37 p.m. CST
...i wonder if ill be Maltheus banned (Maltban) by anyone
by yourSTEPDADDY
...and hopefully Jay will Maltban me... never has brotha sound so lame
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if i cant read ur posts? im a MAN lol...BROTHA...
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...wit lol, it makes you look sad or depressed... like "arent i a great car auction guy lol..."... but that may be me bein pretentious again... STEP SON
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Know what I hope? I hope TPTB cast him in Star Trek II ..as a big. bad ass. Klingon.<br><br> Tell me ya can't see the grand of that...well. It would be cool. Hell, anyone is mean and menacing all made up as a Klingon just look at John Larroquette.<br><br> Kevin Durand would take it to a whole 'other' level..
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i think its a program u can download where u can edit this tb or something. u can delete or "ban" anyones post u dont want to read. theres a post up top at the beginning of the tb about it. im a homophobic gray bar now lol!
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and i AM a great car auction guy. so, ur point is???
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I am gonna have to send you a bill for all the fine Kentucky Bourbon you make me Danny Kaye spit take..<br><br> Broheim. Brilliant!
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Shut the fuck up about spoilers. Thats why I held off until now. You ruined the Mikael surprise you dumb fuck.
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April 1, 2010, midnight CST
Tv shows that need to be made to help me fill the Lost gap
by Miyamoto_Musashi
So far I have tv shows based on : <p> 1. Y The Last Man <p> 2. The Talisman (king and Straub) <p> 3. American Gods (Neil Gaiman) <p>
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to settle our battles. hope he doesnt get mad when i HALF him lol(sadness & depression)...
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April 1, 2010, 12:02 a.m. CST
Agreed! Nice script Maltheus. Thanks for the heads up.
by buffywrestling
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referring to Team Saymond of course! <p> Sayid and Des are another spin-off along with Alt Sawyer and Miles that I could enjoy. <p>
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u 2 fight the good fight! im off too bed broheim(s)...
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Though he needs a good script to really shine
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I was hoping Walt was going to be brought to the Island to battle MIB. Fuckin' kids got powers ya know? Did you notice Lostboytexas did not call out the other talkbacker for the racist comment about Walt being in the NBA cause hes tall? <br><br> What's Desmonds purpose for being there?
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I will have your back when I can on these talkbacks