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Hollywood Takes Another Crack At GODZILLA!
Beaks here...
Following up on a report from Bloody Disgusting in August of '09, Variety has learned that Legendary Pictures has secured the rights to Toho Co.'s Godzilla, and hopes to return the iconic giant lizard to the big screen at some point in 2012.
For those of you dreading another Emmerich-level betrayal of the character, Legendary honcho Thomas Tull is saying all the right things. "Our plans," he tells Variety, "are to produce the GODZILLA that we, as fans, would want to see. We intend to do justice to those essential elements that have allowed the character to remain as pop-culturally relevant for as long as it has."
There are no creatives attached to the project yet (that we know of), so who knows what this new American Godzilla will look like. My guess is that it will a) be another CG monster, b) take place in one of America's fine coastal cities (I vote for Hilton Head), and c) Maria Pitillo will be nowhere in sight. However, given that we've nothing to go on but Tull's vaguely encouraging statements, I reserve the right to be spectacularly wrong on all counts.
The Toho Godzilla has been MIA since 2004'S GODZILLA: FINAL WARS, so, if nothing else, it's good to know the big fella's coming back.
Warner Bros. will distribute.
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Make it so!
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It still saddens me that the opportunity to return Godzilla to his former glory back in the 90's was pissed away! People were eager for it and were sadly let down.
It's kind of like how Tim Burton pissed away "The Planet of the Apes" remake! Another opportunity lost! -
Of course it was shit, it is Emmerich, after all. But what else are you going to show Godzilla doing, other than destroying a major city? That's pretty much his only endearing quality. Emmerich used CGI to make the ridiculous FX of the Japanese movies more photorealistic. What else are you going to do but update it with better FX? The only other direction is to go campy with wacky man-in-suit antics, winking at the audience. I understand hating Emmerich's raptor-Godzilla-babies, but on the whole, he did the only thing you can do with a giant monster that tears up cities . . . he had a giant monster that tore up the city.
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What Godzilla left in the dumpster years ago gets his revenge.
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... but they went with that Devlin/Emmerich shit.
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With Vince Vaughan as Godzilla. You know you want it.
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There weren't even any cool parts of it. Any of the (more) recent Godzilla movies w/Kiryu vs. Godzilla were miles better than the 1999 crapfest by Emmerich.
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I know it has an audience, but I'm not part of it. I have a very vague memory of the "classic" Godzilla films from my youth, and I made the mistake of seeing the Matthew Broderick version in the theater. But since then I've just ignored these films altogether.
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And I really would not mind an all out monster blowout like Final Wars, without the Matrix-y stuff.
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hopefully....
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Totally not what I was expecting.
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Keep the iconic imagery of Godzilla and don't make him a friggin' iguana.
Have other monsters for him to fight.
Have an insane and never before seen level of carnage.
Make it a serious endeavor.
Keep Matthew Broderick far, far away.
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It was more than the babies. It was the look of Big G, the stupid human characters, the bad attempts at humor... it's just a shit film, it really is. Fucking up a city ain't enough.
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Is Godzilla, any bitching is just fan boy nonsense.
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for Godzilla were the most awesome teasers i had seen at the time (I was 15). What else could they possibly do now that Cloverfield and 2012 killed it with monster-in-city and overall destruction on the big screen
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See? Everything will be JUST fine. Hollywood can't possibly fuck this up twice!
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Hokywood is of course making an American version of that. Watch the Swedish version instead. I predict it to be the new hipster film. Oops. Did i break an Aicn scoop? Quick /film. Snag that shit.
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RUN GUIDOS, RUN!!!!
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Croverfierd vs. Gojira.
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My vote is that they make this like a spiritual continuation of the Japanese movies. Start with a Japanese news story about how nobody's seen Godzilla since his last battle with [enter monster here].
Then, have new reports of sketchy Godzilla sightings, that are little better than Loch Ness Monster sightings.
Then have him/her come ashore somewhere cool AND unusual.
Possible options include:
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Surely it will also be in 3D.
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Don't suck balls. Godzilla could be amazing if done right.
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there, that's out of the way
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And Creasybear is right...what more are you going to do with it?
That being said, Roland's Godzilla really mis fires on ALL levels. Matthew Broderick rarely brings anything to a picture. -
It's set in Japan and involves a group of international scientists who travel to Japan to investigate Monster Island. Godzilla has been around for years and the citizens of Tokyo have grown accustomed to it having spent a generation having emergency drills and safety lectures. The Japanese are almost dismissive of Godzilla with fewer G-related deaths every year than car crashes.
The big down side of course is the cost of rebuilding everything and after several failed attempts to destroy Godzilla short of nuking Monster Island (due to Japanese anxiety over nuclear weapons) they've come to accept his presence because he keeps Rodan, Mothra and the others in check. -
I remember a few years ago somebody was trying to make a 3-D Imax movie with the big G. FILM THIS AS A 3-D MOVIE!!!!! None of that after the fact conversion bullshit-if Hollywwod makes a full-on,cheesy as hell,man in suit,3D Godzilla movie IN IMAX....the fanboys will be there in droves.
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Let me know when there's some concept design art or something. Still happy there's going to be a new big budget cgi Godzilla.
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+100 for use of word "'twernt." I lol'd. :)
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I mean, really.
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It's called Cloverfield.
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I would think a remake of Ghidrah would be good fun. Having Godzilla, Rodan and Mothra fight Ghidrah would be cool. That was my favorite back in the day.
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For no other reason than shameless product placement? Or will the Doritos's truck be swapped out for a Pepsi tanker?Either way, make it so!
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...And i loved "come wit me"... my black role model and my japanese role model all in one!
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He'll probably kick through a Geico ad. It'll be funny & memorable... say, is my insurance due for renewal?
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...Set in the suburbs... imagine lookin outside and seein a giant monster ravage a town wit no tall buildings... plus those who complain of not seein clovey a lot would be happy since it wont be able to hide
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Mar 29, 2010 2:42:46 PM CDT
What will get the kids in...teen-age Godzilla with a human girlf
by cosmik
Lots of love-sick brooding and maybe a love triangle with teen-age Gamera!
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By Lugh, hasn't it suffered enough?
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...and possibly stupid. Comment on this no more. A real Godzilla movie would be so welcome right now. They need to learn from Cloverfield and show the ground level destruction and human reaction to a monster rampage. Keep '54 as a starting point and go from there - Godzilla reduced to a skeleton by the Oxygen Destroyer is found regenerating in the ocean. The US drags his body back to the US where it comes to life, wrecks the golden gate bridge and battles a military giant robot/monster created from his tissue taken back in 54. No dumb kids, flavor of the month actors or general hollywood asshat-ery. Make it serious and good.
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...and are now just licking the Spoon of Utter Failure. Godzilla is a one trick pony anyway. Might as well make a billion dollar Power Rangers movie instead (Nathan Fillion as the Green Ranger!) Cloverfield was all the Godzilla fix I needed for at least a decade. Though I suppose everything will be threebooted eventually, with the way things are going. Does anyone else feel like we're living in a parallel Children Of Men world lately, except instead of no new babies being born, it's a dystopia where no new ideas can be generated? -
They could pull an Incredible hulk deal and go in their own direction, but no need to ignore the previous film.Yes I loved Godzilla '98.
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Or I shan't be attending.
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I have 2 movies in mind. The first one deals with the international team of scientists and military men who are sent in (much to the annoyance of the Japanese) to solve the Godzilla problem. They travel to Monster Island and "neutralize" the threat. essentially poisoning it's food supply (this is all a bit vague so bear with me). The great lizard is sent into a coma and its final termination is imminent.
But with Godzilla no longer around to protect its territory, it becomes very clear why it is tolerated in Japan when Rodan and Mothra attack an unprotected Toyko, soon turning to fight each other which causes massive devestation across the city.
When Japan's defence forces fail to take the monsters down, the only option is to wake Godzilla and hope that it will come to defend its perceived territory.
Bit vague...anyways, movie 2...even vaguer...
Movie 2 would pick up 4 years later. One of the scientists from the first film would have been lost on the island and spent four years hiding from monsters and studying their behaviour patterns. When a group of American tourists wander off the trail on Monster Island (because, Godzilla, being world famous..$$$) and encounter the scientist, he is wild, apparently mad. Upon his return to civilisation however he conceives of a plan to rid Japan of Godzilla and all mutations once and for all. Essentially to create a duplicate, but a more powerful one, capable of defeating any monster that attacks Tokyo...MechaGodzilla.
The project overseen by Japanese Military officials and in spite of its massive costs, the consensus is that if it succeeds, the money cost to build it will amount to 2 years worth of Monster damage to Tokyo so the price is worth it.
On the day MechaGodzilla is activated, the scientist takes control and proceeds to attack Tokyo, proclaiming that the only way to really solve the problem is to clear Godzilla's territory of us pesky human beings...of course, Godzilla perceives that this metal duplicate is trying to take his territory...cue awesome battle.
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...I don't care what you all say, I definitely had a crush on her when the movie first came out and I was but 18 or so. That skintight green shirt she wore in the newsroom scene, the golden locks of hair, the petite body. She was gorgeous. And pictures of her with ruler straight hair later on, beautiful. She would've made a great April O'Neil back then.
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Seriously, how did that concept get into the American script. "We can't find him!" I'm not a big fan of Cloverfield, but at least it got the general concept of a giant monster attack right. Keep it simple and straightforward, without the low-budget shaky camera action and the cast of main character douchebags and you have a winner.
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remember her? she was the taco bell chihuahua, and according to wiki was voiced by carlos mencia. anytime "gino" is brought up I always thinq fondly of the commercial tie-in where the chihuahua was saying here lizard lizard lizard.......
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...I one of my fav movies... prob the first bootleg i saw too... "wanna play kick the can?"
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Just as a preface, this isn't (entirely) a fanboy casting couch. I remember an interview with Tarantino a few years back where he said one of his dream projects would be directing a Godzilla movie. So if he's still game, make it happen!
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Because that would be hip and cool--a kind of Gulliver's Travels meets Godzilla meets Wicked.
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Then...if anyone liked my Godzilla stories, for the third, I would set 90% of it on Monster Island and have it be a battle between Godzilla and a new monster rising up to claim his territory - Ghidrah.
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...he didn't "tear up a city". GINO did minimal property damage to NYC and inflicted close to no civilian casualties, since everyone in the city conveniently seemed to disappear. I think he blew up a couple of helicopters and a submarine, and maybe stepped on a few cars.
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That's the only way I'll see it.
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Godzilla goes up against sparkly emo...I mean vampires.
Godzilla V: G-Man goes West
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MAN IN SUIT MAN IN SUIT MAN IN SUIT MAN IN SUIT MAN IN SUIT MAN IN SUIT MAN IN SUIT MAN IN SUIT MAN IN SUIT MAN IN SUIT MAN IN SUIT MAN IN SUIT MAN IN SUIT MAN IN SUIT MAN IN SUIT MAN IN SUIT... nobody? Really?
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was shit but the effects were truly AMAZING. New York being fucked by giant lizard looked never so real before and never will. Much better than this 100% CGI crap we have nowadays.
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Is a MAN in a SUIT!!! If anything, the one thing Emmmerich did get right is the look-a giant, mutated iguana. Toho Godzilla=giant, earless cat covered in burnt quacamole.
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It's true. Watch the movie (if you can bear it) and for all the talk about GINO being a threat, the military destroyed more than the giant lizard, including Madison Square Garden. Didn't they make a big hole in the Chrysler Building or the Metlife building too? Some building anyway. Heck in the helicopter chase they were blowing the shit out of Manhattan. GINO didn't do shit to them.
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They should make it like the animated series (without Godzuki)-a team of ocean explorers with a magic beeper; when trouble ensues, who ya gonna call?
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He fucks up the city, but the other creatures are way more destructive, and hopefully he'll take out the more dangerous one, is what the final third of the movie should be composed of.
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Not sure if anyone actually liked it (the 2 movie idea, not the third...that's way too vague) but to clarify, yes, Godzilla would have atomic breath.
American Scientist: He's like a giant...dinosaur.
Japanese Scientist: Eh...more like a dragon.
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Bobcat Goldthwaite, trapped in a Godzilla suit with a cigar butt burning him, screaming in pain and trampling across a lit miniature model property in slow motion, as the Japanese investor claps along excitedly, from One Crazy Summer. http://tinyurl.com/yd6yw4e
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I doubt there will be any King Ghidora in it. Toho needs to be reasonable about licensing their other monsters.
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Mar 29, 2010 3:19:48 PM CDT
Let me guess. It will be Cloverfield, but with Godzilla this ti
by darksider
Make it stop.
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to restore the franchise. Make sure the Godzilla steps on Bambi, just near the end of the movie, when we were expecting a happy ending.
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Edit feature? Anyone? Bueller?
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Even though the new movie is destined to be garbage, if it gets Mattel to make an updated Shogun Warrior firing fist Godzilla toy, then I'm all for it.
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... we're talking about a character that was, in its classic fan-favourite version, a man in a rubber suit pretending to be a giant lizard knocking over cardboard buildings.
Did I actually read a comment in Mr Beaks' article above that went "For those of you dreading another Emmerich-level betrayal of the character"???
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That Emmerich Godzilla was such a let down. The trailer where the mountain of water approaches the dock was pretty sweet. Then, the movie ended up being a lizard galloping around New York, hiding behind skyscrapers. (Not to mention the Jurassic Park rip-off on a basketball court.) I don't know why they thought a speedy Godzilla would be good. When I think of the thing, Godzilla is like a storm—this massive, slow-moving, incredibly destructive force of nature. I wanted to see the city flattened. Instead I watched the lizard get caught in wires and shot after he ate some fish.
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...was that it suffered from Transformers Syndrome, where the filmmakers are misled into thinking that the audience wants to see a movie primarily about the people who tag along with the giant robots/lizard, rather than a movie that focuses on the activities of the giant robots/lizard specifically, with people in the background. It's also what ruined the first Hellboy movie. -
They've already shown that a somewhat faithful adaptation of the origninal Godzilla can be made via videogames.
I want to see a recognizable Godzilla wreaking CGI havoc on the entire fuckin' world.
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oh shit it ain't even five of the clock.
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Was perfect directorial stunt-casting. If hollywood wanted to make an American monster destruction movie. He's the Maestro of destruction. Problem was that the moneymen, either listened to online buzzkills. Or made shit up as they went along.
"Boo hoo, i don't want a guy in a rubber suit."
"I want "serious acting"
and a "good script".
Yeah, because those are the staples of the Godzilla series.
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Mar 29, 2010 3:34:00 PM CDT
10000 BC - 2013: THE DAY AFTER PATRIOT-STARGATE-GODZILLA-SOLDIER
by palimpsest
As long as a major American city gets trashed by a giant army of alien British mutant weather soldiers from a hokey prehistoric Egyptian past occurs, I'm happy.
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For what it was.
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But I'm off now, as two posts is the most I can ever give to a thread having anything even tangentially to do with Emmerich.
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It has to look cheesy.
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It's what the public wants.
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Mar 29, 2010 3:39:20 PM CDT
The 80s and 90s Godzilla movies were actually very good
by superunknown85
Nothing at all like the cheap, campy 60s and 70s movies that people usually associate with Godzilla. I hope Legendary Pictures takes the material seriously.
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We are, after all, professionals.
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When I came across this article. Someone else was asking about Godzilla movies on another site and it made me think about how much I enjoyed some of the 90's and 00's Godzilla movies and how I wish I had some to watch. All I own is the original classic. I could use an awesome new Godzilla movie right about right now.
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Easy solution- something very big is wreckin' shit and the USA has only one option- Ask Big G for some help.
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Another Godzilla flick?
That's fucking hilarious.
Maybe they should turn it into a teen-comedy - that's what all these fucking remakes are; a bad fucking joke.
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is absolutely right! He would be the perfect fit for a Godzilla movie. He knows how to play funny seriously.
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I maintain the Cage factor is needed for this movie. As some sort of mad scientist/secret agent that tries to warn everyone.(No, NOT like that Godzilla 98 plot)Cage gets angrier and angrier, cuz nobody takes him seriously. Then boom. Godzilla Strikes. Nobody is angrier than Godzilla. Not even Cage. Could also use BALE.
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...Also Sammy J runnin away from Gino was funny too from the movie awards
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Has potential. And you can bet that they have been considering it.
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Mar 29, 2010 3:47:29 PM CDT
At least their mission statement is in the right place.
by the reluctant austinite
Emmerich and Devlin issued a statement in interviews very early on that went something like this: "The character of Godzilla has been around for 40 years and been in over 20 movies, but no one has ever managed to make a good Godzilla movie, so we're going to be the first to do that." They were fucked from that point on because that was an open admission that they understood NOTHING about how the character had managed to stay in pop culture consciousness for that long.
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legendary pics and wb have good track records with the genre films as of late! i wonder if nolan is supervising it lol. actually that might not be a good thing....he might make it too realistic. godzilla is fantasy!
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That's what was wrong with it. "Godzilla fucked up a city, what else can he do?" Um, no. Gojira fucked up a city in 1954 as the personification [monsterification?] of doom. As a force of nature. As a walking atomic bomb. To the Japanese, Godzilla was the United States coming to crush them and nuke them. [Big monster across the ocean wakes up; first destroys shipping, then outer islands; nothing can stop his advance, no matter what the army tries; monster stomps cities into dust - it's all there, from their point of view.] Emmerich's Godzilla was just a big, clumsy, frightened animal that was just trying to hide and lay eggs. When they shot at Emmerich's Godzilla, I felt bad for him. YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO FEEL BAD FOR GODZILLA. Cloverfield did an infinitely better job. The monster should look into elevated railroad cars, look the people in them dead in the eye, and then FUCKING KILL THEM. And the army should shoot shit at him, and he should shrug it off and stomp on their tanks. That's how you make a Godzilla movie. Not by having him run away to hide underground because he's vulnerable to small arms fire.
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Means things like "Good Acting", "Good Plot" and "Good effects". For the 'General audience' Which, imo the old Godzilla flicks DO have. Of course, show any of these gems to any "normal" person and they run off screaming into the woods.
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Was the greatest Godzilla movie next to the original. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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-Gotta be SF, Seattle or LA. Godzilla's just a Pacific Ocean monster.
-Cage would be good as the good scientist. Gary Sinise is the head General. Get Oldman in 5th Element mode as the crackpot scientist who creates Godzilla's enemy.
-Do they have the balls to be "magical"? Real fire breath? Time travel? Unexplained miniature twins? Aliens?
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don't worry...i'm sure they'll do a good job, and certainly not use anyone like matthew broderick, i mean who else is even remotely LIKE matthew broderick (i'm sure they'll get someone good and riveting and scary like JON CRYER) that is all.
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he he he lol...
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With Hollywood involved, the possibilities are endless: Godzilla vs. the Global Warming Monster; Godzilla vs. Bushra; Godzilla vs. Capitalistlon; Godzilla vs. Jesus; Godzilla vs. Talent; Godzilla vs. Creativity; Rebootzilla vs. 2D! The list goes on and on...
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Two hours of giant monsters fighting each other where the only human characters are the military trying to destroy them and fleeing citizens. I want no lame attempts at character development, just an Avatar-sized budget of monster mayhem goodness.
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As a resident of Hilton Head, I have to say I agree completely with Beaks. Godzilla can make landfall here and take out the lame-ass Harbour Town Lighthouse (tourist trap) and crush the many residents and visitors with their heads firmly up their asses (they'll never see him coming).
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30 stories high!
Breathing Fire!
His name in the Sky!
Godzilla!
Godzilla!
Godzilla!.......................................and Godzoooooki!
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Too Soon?
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Buh naaaah nah naaaaah! Buh naaaaah nah naaaah!
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Spell it how it's pronounced Hollywood!
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Also Schumakers take on Batman: I said it before: He also did what he was told. Yes i know this is also the nazi defence: "I was only following orders" But some Directors aren't responsible for some things. Most directors are hired to do a job. Like a Carpenter.
The way the studio wants it to be done. Sucks sometimes, but it's true.
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Honestly, do it like Spike Jonze did Where The Wild Things Are, with a newly-designed animatronic suit (get a makeup legend like Rick Baker to design it), and just use a smidgen of CGI to animate the eyes and mouth a little more than the classic Toho films. Half the fun of those old movies was seeing ACTUAL BUILDINGS (albiet scale-model ones) getting stomped on and knocked over, which is something CGI can never quite match. A skilled, respectful director could use a lot of actual model buildings and just use CGI to touch up here and there. Just give Godzilla a worthwhile monster foe (a modernized Ghidorah would be awesome), and let the canage commence!
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http://tinyurl.com/lx3n44
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Dun, dun dun dunnnn... dun dun dunnn... Buh naaaah nah naaaah!!!
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I too enjoyed the original man-in-suit version but also like what they did with the Emmerich version. The sfx, especially for the time, were excellent. It had romance, humor and tons of destruction. What's not to love? However, for the next one, it would be cool to see them harken back to the originals and see how they can translate that into the modern era.
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Mar 29, 2010 4:10:06 PM CDT
Guillermo Del Toro would be a great choice for this
by nasty in the pasty
He ALWAYS goes for a rubber-suit effect as opposed to CGI whenever possible, and the animatronic effects in Hellboy II were aongst the best I've ever seen. That big henchman monster with the retractable metallic hand...I swear to God, I thought it was CGI when I first saw the movie, and was ASTONISHED to learn it was a rubber suit in the making-of on the DVD. THAT's what a new Godzilla movie needs to recapture the cheesy fun of the Toho movies. Plus, let Michael Giacchino score it in the same Akira Ifukube-homage style of his Cloverfield "Roar!" overture.
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as some sort of twisted genius that summons/creates a monster army, bringing everyone together for the big finale:
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i bet they can craft some hybrid animatronic suit with cgi enhancements added in! weta would be remarkable
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...Now go make that "cool" site before the LOST finale... we gotta get more hits than here (if possible, ill like to be the Capone of your site)
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This is a tough movie to get right. Yet, also simple enough. IF they give it some thought.
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Mar 29, 2010 4:17:31 PM CDT
Where is Harry's legendary enthusiastic review of GODZILLA?
by badwaldo s revenge
He saw the movie at the premiere at Madison Square in NYC...then Harry saw the movie for the second time in his hometown and published an about-face with negative review. Original review had been memory-holed. Yessiree, old-time AICN readers remember. Look forward to a real Americanized Godzilla movie without Emmerich the hack schlock director and Devin the hack schlock producer. That 1998 movie is a tedious headache-inducing dull crap...
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The first of my 2 Godzilla movies would begin in 1954 with the events of the original Gojira film (though slightly altered). From the moment the monster attacks, we are in a new world timeline, similar to the real one but a timeline in which Japan has had to deal with 60 years of Godzilla attacks.
There would essentially be a prologue at the beginning of the film, telling first how a monster, dubbed Gojira, has been rampaging across Japan and how it was likely created by a nuclear explosion on a small uninhabited island which is seen as the nesting ground of the giant lizard and is later dubbed "Monster Island"
Unlike the original film though, this Gojira survived in 1954 and for the last 60 years, the international community has tried to destroy Godzilla but the one thing Japan hasn't allowed is a nuclear attack on the island.
So for 60 years, the people of Tokyo have learned to adapt to life under sporadic attacks from Godzilla and when a group of scientists and UN forces come to Japan with what they believe is a solution, the Japanese are indifferent. Gojira has become part of life for them.
That's the basic idea of what I'd do if i was making it....now....I would be tempted to just remake Gojira but we've already had a remake with GINO (as poor as it was). -
I have been a HUGE fan of the Giant Green Mutated Atomic Bomb Firey breathing Japanese Lizard guy since I was a little kid and use to watch ALL the movies on either the "Chiller Diller Matinee" on saturday afternoons or "Creature Features (with host Bob Wilkins) growing up in the SF Bay Area! Sure by todays CGI standards and over time the so-called special effects haven't held up well and we will always have the america-dubbed voices that don't quite match the japanese actors lips...but hey! It's Godzilla (or "Go-jira" in Japan), it's all campy goodness-ness-man in a rubber suit awesomeness!! :)
I was just horrified at what Emmerich and Devlin did to the Legend and Storyline/History of Godzilla with thier 1997 version (apprently they were on a post Independence Day "high" and felt they could do NO wrong with their next project...the ruination of a beloved Monster classic!).
Well, since little details are forth coming and if Hollywood is reading these postings? All I have to say is...HEY!! If you are going to make an American version of Godzilla? Don't you dare FUCK IT UP (again)!! Here is an idea..consult with ToHo Studios and the creator of Go-jira! Have them help you make a kick-ass movie..collaborate and make the fans happy to see the Big Guy come back to the screen!! -
Herro American Peopres!!
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Every fucking talkback one of you retards manages to defend GINO or Phantom Menace or Crystal Skull or even Battlefield Fucking Earth. Just goes to show that no matter how horrible a movie may be,theres always a braindead portion of the population that loves it. I can almost gurantee that if a Batman talkkback pops up,at least half of you will start defending Batman and Robin and explaining how Catwoman was an underrated cinematic exploration of 90's feminist ideals.
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Mar 29, 2010 4:34:21 PM CDT
Well, this is the love of my life. Please don't destroy it.
by zillabeast
....and bring in MICHAEL GIACCHINO to score this thing! His Cloverfield overture was fantastic!!!
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That's a film I want to see.
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..it had a couple of cool scenes. Some chases, mass destruction, the sequence with the submarine. But then, it did have NY in perpetual rain, the whole velociraptors in Madison Square Garden thing and Matthew Broderick.
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I know, we just came out of two Mechagodzilla movies at the end of the Toho series, but the thought of how terrific a big-budget Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla would be....ESPECIALLY if you take MG back to it's alien invasion roots....wow.
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ideas...Godzilla is radioactive, and his mere presence kills people off in hours with horrible skin cancers. Then his excrement is even more radioactive, because it is so concentrated. Lots of deadly urine, too. Have him pee on something important!
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Godzilla to tame the cloverfield monster, then rides it around the world on a spiritual quest to find his true meaning in life.
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That way you could have the perfect blend of Hollywood cgi and toho man in suit!
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Fuck you Hollywood!
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...would like to see is probably at odds. I would like to see a "remake" of sorts of Godzilla 1985 -- something dark and scary -- rather than something goofy.
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just bring on a guy in a suit!
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besides seeing all you 15-year-old whiners go take a nap, i'd like to see another attempt to take the "fat guy in a rubber suit" factor out of godzilla.
emmerich made a serious film with some humor in it. he made a godzilla that was believable and rooted in realism. he took a good, quiet star (broderick) and teamed him with a fun supporting cast (especially reno, who brings a great deadpan face to every film he's done) and filled in a "let's have the giant THING tear up the CITY" movie.
what did you rectal fistulas expect? mac-fucking-beth?
i got news for ya. i've been watching godzilla for 51 years, and roland's version is one of the top 5.
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A 300ft tall cgi Rodney Danger field destroys Manhattan, but then ensures the civilians that "there all right"
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Mar 29, 2010 4:57:12 PM CDT
Robot Chicken did a pretty good bit with the Emmerich Godzilla
by kravmaguffin
No Cloverfield shaky cam, it doesn't make it realistic, just cheap looking. That's what killed any chance of repeat business. I remember coming out of the movie and so many people were complaining about the camera work. gfy
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I love Godzilla, but I am too certain that Hollywood will try to 'improve' on the whole thing and mess it all up once again. First off, take NYC off the table. Everything always happens there and it's BORING. Do it in L.A. or just ANYWHERE else in the country. Secondly, Godzilla needs a true nemesis to fight. Let's initally hate him for unintentionally smashing up our shit, but then when monster #2 shows up who intentionally smashes up our shit, we pull for Godzilla to kick monster ass. Then let him either head back to the water or 'die' in a way that we're not sure that he's dead.
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Replete with Jewish guilt. Happy Passover!
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Old. Fucking. Hat. Same words from every producer who's about to touch some geek hotspot. It's not reassuring anymore.
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Yes he pretty much nailed it...you need other monsters or some big robots for Godzilla to fight and just have an incredible level of carnage and CGI destruction. Maybe like 2012 but with a decent story and characters.
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you all know it will kick ass
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Godzilla is corny as shit so please stop holding it up to this high standard of entertainment. Sure the '98 remake sucked but creasybear is 100% right. What else can you do? A monster fighting another monster is pretty retarded(if they are going for the reality angle). And when I'm talking about corny I'm not really talking about the SFX but the acting, dialouge etc. There no reason that has to be shit. The SFX are good for the time(which is the only way SFX can be compared..it's unfair to compare with technology that exists today) but the only reason I turn on a Godzilla flick is for a good laugh.
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A Japanese Gorilla Whale in Kansas City
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A "Giant" Gorilla Whale in Kansas City
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He missed the whole point. He made Godzilla an animal who did animal things. Godzilla was a walking metaphor for nuclear war. Godzilla is a monster, NOT an animal.
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jackass
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..needs to be in this movie.
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ziss izz fronsh roast?
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Godzilla was always stupid as hell with stupid 'plots' and a guy in a rubber suit stomping on shit.
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why? so he can make unnecessary slow-mo shots every 10 minutes forcing the god damn movie to go longer then 4 fucking hours?
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Open the casket, flip him over ans fuck him again.
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"Yeah, we're doing this out of fan loyalty and it's not a remake, it's a reimagining."
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Mar 29, 2010 5:40:13 PM CDT
Reimagine some God damn MONSTERS for the guy to fight
by anything but tangerines
The most awful thing about GINO is that he's... SHE'S just fending off the military. retarded.
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Been there. Epicly failed that. It's Japanese or don't bother.
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...this will be in 3D, do you? I wonder.
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I don't know who the fuck all you dickheads are saying that the 1998 version of Godzilla was fine... REALLY? I mean FUCKING REALLY? THAT MOVIE WAS A PIECE OF SHIT! Anybody knows that the character and story of Godzilla is just as valid as any of the current brainless blockbuster movies (BAY'S TRANSFORMERS, PIRATES, HARRY FUCKING POTTER) It has 50 plus years of tradition and content to draw upon and make awesome... A giant supernatural beast(not a lizard) that embodies all of the souls lost in Hiroshima, it's a fucking walking demon ghost that is unstoppable. What they did in 98 was make it a dumb big lizard and sucked away any mythology or bad-ass qualities and made a souless, cutesy movie. Godzilla is known for Monster on monster battles, with him being the lesser of 2 evils. C'mon, you all need to see there is alot of potential for great effects other than just city destruction.
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Korean filmmakers know what they're doing as well, it seems. American filmmakers? Not so much.
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Power Rangers on two of the posts side by side.... who's with me? That actually would be pretty SWEET ! Emmerich's Godzilla was really bland....but as with ALL Emmerich films, the previews were really cool ! SIZE DOES MATTER.... I huess I have no point to make here whatsoever.... logging out....
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ok now I'm really out....
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Has to be done dark and scary with a few nod to the fan moments, give the beast a persona that embodies the bad-ass that Godzilla is.
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GINO is a waste of good creature design...
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Surprise, surprise! Bitching about CGI
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And his face looks like it's sculpted out of turkey flavored frosting.
It's obvious the japanese were taking a shot at Kong. I love this movie.
Godzilla Vs. King Kong has the best version of Godzilla in my book.
As someone who owns dozens and dozens of Godzilla toys, I can say that it's time for a scary Godzilla movie for christ sakes.
GINO (Godzilla in Name only) was just some sort of super insult to us stunted Godzilla fans.
If you don't know Godzilla, and want to see a good modern take on the character (with suits and sets, death to cgi!) check out Godzilla: GMK
Rubber suits, Godzilla crushing orphaneges and hospitals and being the bad guy he was meant to be.
The fights are bloody and brilliantly pro-wrestling esque an Im gonna go watch it right now!
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because I'm drunk enough to enjoy it.
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for hollywood that is all too literal and frequent. I try not to be pessimistic, but this is probably just going to be as bad as the last american godzilla remake. What made the japanese films so great is the fact you knew they were just random people in costumes AND because it was set in Japan. I remember in Final Wars Toho was kind enough to make the american one canon by calling it "Zilla," and subsequently killed it off by the real Godzilla in under a minute. They named it Zilla, because they said the americans took the "God" out of him. The only way I would be remotely interested in this one is if they kept the design of Godzilla similar, and they at least have an interesting storyline. It doesnt HAVE to be set in Japan (although I highly doubt it will anyway), but it just has to be cool and interesting.
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Yet get 2012 so right?
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I am a big Godzilla fan and I really liked the American movie. This is good news!
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that move sucked and I am not even a Godzilla fan. Hell, I 100% AGREE with the Godzilla fans. He's so popular you have to be retarded to not know what Godzilla is (apparently some people are) He looked like a giant dinosaur in 99. Godzilla is not a dinosaur, or a dragon, he's a goddamned monster who walks upright like a man, has all sorts of radioactive powers and fights other monsters. And he is pretty smart, so he doesn't run all scared like around a city. He also is not driven by egg laying. He is driven by wanting to destroy cities, mostly Tokyo, which he considers his turf (and earth too). He fights other monsters that want to mess with Earth and Tokyo.Occasionally he shows that he is nicer than other monsters, and has some monster friends, who he may still fight; but they still team up with him when there is a bigger douchebag in town. Just like real friends. He has a kid because they needed to make more movies and keep it interesting. I also understand the "Godzilla is WWII US" theme. Granted thats probably a totally superficial understanding, but its clearly miles more than anyone who made Godzilla 99 had. I mean, they fucking cast Matthew Broderick? And had it in NY? How the hell did Godzilla get to NY from Tokyo? Swam the Cape of Good Hope? Crossed the Panama Canal?
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Unless some guys with REAL HUGE BALLS run the whole thing. REMEBER KIDS: GODZILLA HAS HUGE GREEN BALLS AND PISSES NAPALM!
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Seriously.
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GODZILLA NEEDS HIS DUE....Gamera 3 was a great dark, scary monster movie, I highly recommend it.
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WTF is up with the defense that "the original was corny as shit" (Godzilla, TF). Thats not a valid defense. I have seen parts of Godzilla and other "originally corny" franchises. The originals may have been corny, but it was still fun, enjoyable, and you could view it as a real movie if you wanted to, or with nostalgia. Compare that to Godzilla 99 and TF which weren't even fun. I left Godzilla 99 feeling vaguely dissapointed that monster sucked and the story made no sense. I left TF with a headache and dissapointment that the movie was all about morphing. So don't bring that "it's supposed to be corny/bad" shit. Corny does not equal bad. Corny means good in its own way. Most movies now are not corny, they just suck.
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That's as much a part of Godzilla's character as the physical characteristics.
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It's just that they spent almost all of their budget on making the Godzilla and the miniatures that by the time they made the Kong suit they had very little money left.
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People crouching in shaking basements with dust falling from the ceiling from giant footfalls, a roar in the distance, people looking over flaming cities from observation decks on top of skyscrapers with godzilla hulking along the horizon. THese are the things I want....And Matthew Broadrick too
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Mar 29, 2010 6:15:39 PM CDT
Hi, and here's the complete MTV Movie Award prelim nominee list
by pennsydeux
http://tinyurl.com/yh4m9ms
It's 20 to 25 nominees in each of their 13 categories. First round online voting begins today until april 9, then the final 5 get voted on (online) from May 11 until June 5. Best Movie can be voted on until 30 minutes before the award is presented 6/6. -
although it will only make sense if Godzilla at least fleetingly visits/destroys Tokyo.
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Give him a huge budget and the movie would be beyond incredible.
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King Mazinga!!!! Raydeen!!!!
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Drive a Prius OR ELSE!!!!
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It was such an awesome throw back type Godzilla movie that it was perfect! The best part is when he fights the America Iguanazilla and kills his dumb ass in ten seconds without mercy!
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...but, my god, I wanted to have the power to literally rip her off the movie screen. Ouch. Eye-bleedingly terrible!
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Mar 29, 2010 6:25:32 PM CDT
For All Its Faults, And They Are LEGION, Bayformers Opened The D
by laserpants
To the Japanese helmed Giant Robot and/or Giant Monster live action movies of our dreams. Yes, please Mazinger Z! But ONLY IF DONE IN JAPAN! No more Hollywood raping-of-geeksouls, please.
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You know they are going to do something gay like having Godzilla be the spirit of the earth angry about global warming or some shit. Godzilla will be feminized and liberalized in modern hollywood.
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like a dog in the street...that's where my hate for GINO comes from...I even kind of liked the redesign. It's the story that was the problem...
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The original Godzilla was also a comment about the dangers of nuclear (ok, atomic) energy and being unkind (read: "rape-y") to the environment. So, technically, Godzilla always was a green metaphor. Sorry! Now immediately kill yourself for Jesus. He needs your soul for his Magical Castle in Heaven!
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it begins post WW2 in the wake of Hiroshima- Then re-appears year later when Tokyo has rebuilt itself. This time the Japanese are ready with a monster cyborg they cloned from the original: MECHAGODZILLA....perfect
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you all know him (or it) as the Smog Monster..and revive the song "Save The Earth"..that song rocks (confused readers please look up "Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster" for reference)
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or some other four legged monster that can charge, and that doesn't move like a cat. Cat monsters are beat.
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There are a LOT of things from my childhood that I stubbornly cling to with white knuckles. Godzilla ain't one of them. As a kid in the 1970's, my world was complete when Sunday afternoon Monster Matinee came on Channel 8. GodFuckingZilla, son! Young Skraggo ate that shit up with a shovel-sized spoon. Flash forward to Adult Skraggo -- ehhhhhhh.... not so much. Not even my out of control and debilitating sense of nostalgia seems to work its magic on Godzilla for me. It actually saddens my geek heart, but what are you gonna do? Oh... and yeah, Emmerich's GINO is indefensible. Really.
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Mar 29, 2010 6:44:37 PM CDT
But the Emmerich Godzilla was better than the original...
by the great fucktater
Doesn't anyone see that?!?!? It was just a million times better-looking than the rubbersuit guys. I mean, the rubbersuit guys were cool in a wonky way, but the new design KILLED... -
Blame Matthew Broderick for being the whiniest, faggiest hero ever. And whoever wrote that Godzilla should be killed! Maria was the cutest part of the show!
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I spent a small fortune this weekend taking the family to How to Train Your Dragon. Great flick, but DAAAAMMMMN! You gotta sell a kidney nowadays to go see these things. THAT'S where all the damn Avatar billions came from.
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That would be soooooooo coooooooooo!!!!
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CG scanning a man in the Godzilla suit.... standing applause....! Funny as hell !
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The production group who made successful adaptations of 300 and Batman that fans and even critics love are doing Godzilla. Can't wait to see what they line up in the director/vs. monster camp. Probably Louis Leterrier - what I'd love to know is if they secured the Toho monster canon as well as part of the deal, or just Big G. Maybe dust off the 90's script by the writers of PIRATES OF THE CARRIBBEAN that DeBont never got to make?
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If he's back I am so there.
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and make Emerich's version look like a masterpiece.you can bet on it.
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I bet many will!!
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Better yet, Godzilla vs. Congress.
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Shusuke Kaneko, director of the recent Gameras, did direct a Godzy flick back in 2001, and it's generally considered one of the best in the entire series. I can only imagine what kind of vision he could bring to the screen with a 100 million dollar budget, but I'm sure the chances of that are nil.
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is a movie that is a towering achivement in humanity. When aliens want 1 work to encapsulate our species it shall be this one sent into the satellite drone to the farthest reaches of outer space.
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It's always been a fave of mine and it would be great to see it remade in a modern day London.
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Mar 29, 2010 7:48:35 PM CDT
Does this mean we're gonna get bombarded yet again with...
by greatwhitenoise
MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN I-- Oy vey.
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That's why there's never been a good version.
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Mar 29, 2010 7:57:58 PM CDT
No,no...you guys are right. Emmerich Godzilla IS a Masterpiece
by jobacca
You've changed my mind with your masterful yet insightful posts here. I just didnt realize how DEEP the GINO version was. It was a mindless popcorn flick that the haters take way too seriously while at the same time we all missed the deep connection Broderick brought to the flick with his quiet smoldering acting....I dont know how I've missed the sexual tension between him and GINO all these years,but that it one serious and deep film....FOR ME TO POOP ON!!!!!!
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GOJIRAAA!!!
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Mar 29, 2010 8:07:39 PM CDT
And say whataver you want, I want a new Cloverfield monster movi
by ricarleite2
Really. But without the camera gimmick.
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Godzilla is about slow, lumbering, impending, unavoidable doom closing in on you with nowhere to run. It is nightmare terror. It is NOT about a giant velociraptor springing out of nowhere and bouncing around wrecking stuff.
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...the missing Watchman squid!!! it'll make millions
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Mar 29, 2010 8:29:38 PM CDT
Godzilla vs. Biollante is the best-made of the Toho Godzilla fil
by superunknown85
in that it has the best script, direction, acting, and special effects. In fact it's better than most Hollywood films. Too bad it hasn't gotten a proper US DVD release.
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Fucking do it hollywood
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Mar 29, 2010 8:35:57 PM CDT
GODZILLA 98 RULES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by president baltar
FUCK YOU ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mar 29, 2010 8:54:41 PM CDT
I hope it has lots of racial apologizing like PJ's King Kong....
by crackerfarmboy
Or maybe 3 hours of constant over the top action to the point of nausea and boredom? How the fuck did PJ fuck that one up again?
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heh heh heh heh
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Proof positive that you can do a decent CGI creature that still has the look and feel of the classic Godzilla. http://tinyurl.com/y9og678
Also here is a VERY good sculpt of the Godzilla we "could" have got if Jan DeBont and Whatever his name is Delgado woulda been able to do their thing http://tinyurl.com/ycr4wrx Combine the 2 concepts, tweak it out a little and you have a perfect representation of how Godzilla SHOULD be. Here's what we "could" have gotten if they let Stan Winston have HIS way with the creature. http://tinyurl.com/yfx63ex -
I can't wait to see this!
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...dropped the plot halfway through. What could have been a brainless but half-entertaining-for-the-CG-at-least film about a monster destroying New York instead had an hour plus of baby Godzillas. Too dumb to live.
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I liked PJ's King Kong. It was fun and adventure-y. A bit long.
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That Roland and Dean TOTALLY dropped the ball on. Godzilla is a force of nature, relentless, terrifying, unstoppable, and impervious to modern weaponry. As cheesy as some of these Japanese movies are (primarily due to budget and time constraints.) The first Gojira was an allegory of atomic annihilation. It was meant to be dramatic and unsettling. Not saying the new one needs to be at that level, but If approached properly it could be alot closer to the original tone of the first movie. But with a larger budget and more time they would be able to come up with something that more "realistically" portrays that.
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...and I'm all out of sushi.
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Man, that thing was atmospheric. The giant "fleas" on the boat at the beginning scared the shit out of me as a kid.
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I completely agree, it was the perfect sequel to the original Godzilla. It had the exact tone that's needed for the remake, just excise all that 3'rd person Raymond Burr type narrative and give us something that we can sink our teeth into (metaphorically of course.)
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Mar 29, 2010 10:19:58 PM CDT
Yeah, Godzilla '85 scared the hell out of me as a kid
by nasty in the pasty
It was the first Godzilla movie I ever saw in a theater, and for an 11-year-old who was used to the silly pro wrestling monster-on-monster smackdowns of the 60's and 70's films, that movie was just plain terrifying. That should be the tone for a new movie...nods to the character's past, but also taking everything semi-seriously.
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You hit it right on the nose.....completely agree with you there.
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http://www.moviehole.net/201024232-smith-returns-for-independence-day-2
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that need to be seen by succeeding generations in their original form and be truly appreciated. I know the thinking is that new generations of viewers won't tolerate watching "old" black & white movies but that doesn't give this generation the credit they deserve. I LOVE B&W film, it really has a quality and beauty that is totally unique and there are few films that look better and establish mood and atmosphere as awesome as this movie. The original Gojira needs to be seen BECAUSE it is black and white, not in spite of it. It doesn't need to be re-made with cheesy CG, bad new-jack actors and pre-release test screenings. Gojira is the ultimate apex of all Godzilla content, it stands alone, it is a flawless masterpiece, why paint a new Mona Lisa that looks like Jennifer Aniston? Don't be stupid,don't waste your time or mine.
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I agree to a point with the whole "not remaking a masterpiece" Outlook you have, I think something more along the lines of what Jan DeBont was gonna do with Godzilla would be ideal, a good solid monster vs monster movie with a tone more akin to Gojira, Godzilla Returns and Gamera 3 would work wonders, make it more serious, make it seem like things really are at stake and make it seem like there is actual danger. Definitely don't try to inject needless humour into it.
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Mar 29, 2010 10:47:01 PM CDT
Whath is everyones opinoin on King Kong vs. Godzilla
by takingscorpioscalls
aka GREATEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Who taught you to spell?? I need to hunt them down and keep them from teaching future generations
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Mar 29, 2010 10:59:09 PM CDT
Half way through the movie, it turned into Jurassic Park
by darthbakpao
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...is as close to the original GODZILLA in tone and feel as any of the other modern entries in the series. Whomever the creatives are on this new Godzilla film should look to GODZILLA 1985 to see the feasibility of a timely update. Just as in the original GODZILLA, the titular creature's attack was a direct result of nuclear testing, GODZILLA 1985 brought the monster out of hiding at a time when nuclear tensions between the US and Russia had reached a fever peak. Nuclear age imagery runs throughout the film- from Godzilla's initial attack on a nuclear power-plant through the intimidating shots of satellite-based nuclear missles and anti-nuclear hovertanks to an atomic blast in the atmosphere over Tokyo. GODZILLA 1985's near future (the title is misleading and is not shared by it's Japanese progenitor) reflects the fears of its time, just as the original mirrored the horrors of a nuclear blast and the dark shadow it cast over the future of our planet. A new Godzilla film (whether it's from the US or Japan) should look beyond the eponymous creature as a monster or hero, and should rather see the possibility of Godzilla as allegory. The rest should fall into play.
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KING KONG VS. GODZILLA is a hell of a fun time. The 1962 design gives Godzilla a unique, bulked up look, perfectly befitting a match up with Kong. Akira Ifukube's lively and powerful score set a precedent for the next 45 years of the series. Plus, it's Godzilla's first color feature. There's a lot to like about it, although I wouldn't rank it as my favorite Godzilla film. However, each to his own.
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and thus earns a pass.
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The original GOJIRA does, indeed, stand alone as a masterpiece. As you intuit, it can never be replicated. However, Godzilla has since become a cinematic icon. This is undeniable. Another Godzilla film is a certainty as long as their is money to made. I'm merely proposing that whomever is handed the reigns of the next film do so with care, intelligence, and reverence for the source material.
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Mar 29, 2010 11:36:38 PM CDT
Tarantino has always said he'd like to make a Godzilla film.....
by zillabeast
The drumheads at Sony would never go for it though. His idea for a G movie was a bit similar to what Cloverfield ended up being. We'll end up with Brett Ratner. Or McG.
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Mar 29, 2010 11:37:22 PM CDT
At least they're notmaking 2 seqeuels to Independance Day...
by heckles
...oh wait... they are.
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...could make an excellent Godzilla film. He's expressed his appreciation for Toho tokusatsu in the past and has the creative and conceptual ability to bring Godzilla into the 21st century. Other than Tsukamoto my mind is drawing a blank.
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if it wasn't named Godzilla
But seeing as it was, it was embarrassing, and kinda insulting
But it was a fun giant monster flick
It just wasn't Godzilla
I gotta hit blockbuster and pick up some dvds for a kaiju movie fest
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Mar 29, 2010 11:57:47 PM CDT
how 'bout an offensive retelling adapted to PEARL HARBOR
by george newman
It's a peaceful day in a naval harbor in the Hawaiian islands when suddenly without warning a gigantic dragon-monster rises from the ocean unprovoked to attack U.S. battleships and destroyers.Mothra bombs the shipyard from the skies with fiery feces.
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They took Catwoman and broguht her into the modern age...using a French director with no knowledge of the comics character was a stroke of GENIUS! And Halle Berrys outfit!!! By not using a single one of Catwoman memorable costumes from the comics,they allowed the filmakers to showcase Catwomans body in a whole new light...her outfit is how she dominates men and overcomes her own doubts and limitations. And casting Sharon Stone as the villain,who was like a female Clayface but totally not Clayface was another stroke of Genius. Halle Berrys CATWOMAN may in fact be the finest film of the comic-book age...its right up there with Batman and Robin and the Cold War Allegory that was Superman IV(a film that still makes me cry to this day...R.I.P. Nuclear Man). If you are one of the ones who hates on Catwoman,you're obviously not a true fan or else you're just not deep and smart enough to see it for what it really is!
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If there is a buck to be made, then there is a film in development. It's funny, yet also sad, that Hollywood can make so much dry biscuit, yet sometimes smother it in such rich gravy. One thing I'd like to see, and it would never happen, would be to get those dicks from South Park to do another puppet movie but with Godzilla. At least there's an inherent artistry to the puppeteering and I'd be sure to get a laugh out of it as opposed to the bitter dregs that another Hollywood 'blockbuster' would be. There's something awesome about the stop-motion creature shot at slower than normal speeds that lends real weight to the creatures, and you can't beat having something at least exist in real space, my eyes gaze at cg wonder but my brain always denies it for some reason. I know they say your brain can only make rational sense of a small portion of what your eyes perceive, the rest is so out of context your brain merely throws it away. I think with cg stuff there's that wacky info that your brain expects from perceiving reality that cg doesn't contain, so your mind just goes FAKE and never grabs on. Sorry.....tangent....
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Someone doesn't seem to have much of a life...looking at you Jobacca
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would be like this:
make him a contemporary allegory of our times,by elevating him from a symbol of nuclear threat into a symbol of the fate that awaits Humanity because of her arrogance.and that fate is nothing more that destruction because of the hubris of mankind against Nature,the planet,god,universe,the balance of things,call it as you wish.and Godzilla will be the bringer of this destruction,the personification of Nature's wrath.
You see i dont want godzilla to be just a cool cgi effect which destroys cities.i want his movie,like the original one,to have content,to have a contemporary message,not just your typical modern pulp fiction movie "the world against the monster"
That doesnt mean that i want Godzilla to be the good monster who kills humans because they pollute his ocean he lives in or because they blasted his island and got pissed off.No.He will remain a fearful force of destruction and death while the movie will have a parallel focus on the chaos and pain which is caused by Godzila to the cities and their citizens.
But i like the movie to explore this theme:
Man,with the power of his technological achievements,thinks that he has become the ultimate ruler of the planet,master over everything, who believes that he is the only who has the right to do whatever he wants in the planet,without fearing consequences since the idiot thinks he is a God who doesnt give a fuck to nobody else.
But Godzilla in the movie will have a double meaning: that there are consequences,the actions of Man against the Planet himself and even his own race will have reactions and that he can not do nothing anything against those reactios,those consequences.
i will give you 2 examples of scenes i would like to see in the movie,to understand how this meaning can be achieved:
have you seen this years Academy awarded documentary The Cove,about the hundreds of dolphins the Japs kill for profit? it has a lot of shocking images,it even caused an official protesting for the Jap goverment when it was awarded.
well think of those terrible,shameful images with the dead dolphins from the documentary and imagine this scene for the intro of the movie: fishing boats killing dolphins,the sea has become red from their blood and is filled with their dead bodies.(the movie ofc has to be R-RATED).suddenly the fishermen stop hunting them.they dont know why,but a sudden feeling of anxiety has conquered their hearts.In the scenery there is total silence,only the red sea and the dead bodies of the dolphins.The fishermen look each other,the anxiety is turning slowly into fear when the silence is broke up by a distant whisper which slowly is building up into a noise coming under the sear.their fear now is turning into horror while the noise is turning into a sound resembling like a big scream coming from teh depts of the sea.An old fisherman makes a pray and mutters something about the old tales of the god of the sea.And then Godzilla emerges from the sea,indeed a god of horror and wrath.He destroyes the ships,while chaos spreads among the fishermen.other are petrified,other scream,other try to escape swimming,the old fisherman is crying and asking forgiveness from his god.But the God is angry and does not feel pity.Godzilla destroys all the ships and kills all the fishermen,then he vanishes into the fogs of the sea,heading somewhere.What remains in the scene after the leaves is this: silence,red sea,dead bodies of dolphins and among them dead bodies of humans.
The other scene is near the end of the movie.The Man who thinks he is God,since he has not managed yet to stop the monster,he resorts to his last hope,his ultimate tool of fear and destruction,his ultimate power: The nuclear bomb.
armies from around the world,are following Godzilla in the American desert (or somewhere else).they are waiting for the final blow.The Man smiles and sends a nuclear bomb at the monster.The bomb explodes and the Man cheers because he thinks he proved once again his superiority over everything in this planet.But alas from the nuclear smoke,the monster reveals itself unharmed but very furious.The Man gets panics and sends 2 (or 3 if you want) more nuclear bombs.He is waiting impatiently for the nuclear smokes to clear out,to see if he finally killed the animal.But Godzilla has not been killed.He starts walking menacing towards the armies which are standing very far from the point of the explosions.The armies panic and start throwing without control or proper thinking all their conventional weapons against the monster: missiles,bombs,bullets,napalm everything. Godzilla starts running and screaming,the weapons dont even slow him down.The generals and the soldiers become paranoid,they keep shooting like crazies.The Man is pale from his terror.His weeapons,even the more terrific ones are no much for the new God.Godzillas comes near the armies and stops and stands there,looking at them.The armies stop shooting at him,the generals,the soldiers,the tv channels who are there and are recording the whole event,the people who look the event in their tvs throughtout the world,are all looki9ng the monster,terrified and very baffled of why he stopped and is looking at them now.
The Godzilla opens his mouth and his fearsome nuclear breath comes out and starts annihilating the armies.the whole world is shocked by what they see (the journalists are recording further from the armies).When finally Godzilla stops,nothing is left apart from nuclear smokes.
thats the 2 scens i would like to see.And another scene i would like to see is the,expected,Jap professor to be played by Takeshi Kitano.I would like to be not the voice of reason on how to kill the monster,but mostly the voice of explanation on what were the real reasons behind the attack of the monster.Kitano will the voice of our conscience,to tell us that it was our arrogance and crimes against the planet,that brought us to this situation.He is a historian who specializes in jap fokclore,ancient myths and unexplained disasters of the past.He has a theory that some unexplained destruction in various throughout the world,during the human history,have been caused by a God or rather a monstrous animal.He thinks that the destruction of Tokyo in the night of 1954 was not by earthquake as a lot of scientist,but from this monster.(thus the connection/reference to the original movie).He has written a lot of books and given a lot of speeches about his theories,but ofc nobody believes him until Godzilla appears for real.He is invited to the international team of scientists with the goal to stop the monster.Ofc almost noone listens to his belief that Godzilla was awaken by what the humans do to the enviroment,directly (pollution of seas/atmosphere) or indirectly (nuclear tests,use of radioactive weapons in the wars in middle east etc).I want Kitano to play him because i want to give him a lit of his craziness and wits.His character will be funny,a bit crazy.He is a philosopher,Buddhist,a bit of a hippie.He does not view Godzilla as a mosnter,he understands his motives,but he surely wants to stop him even if it means to kill him.he becomes friend with the 2 protagonists of the film,a man and a woman (maybe they become lovers later),who are scientists of the same team and agree with his theories.together they try to find a solution to stop Godzilla.
anyway these are my ideas,i know they are stupid and not thething the fans would like to see in a movie.buti had nothing better to do,so here they are. -
Talking like a four year old totally (I'm sorry, I meant to say "'OTALLY") makes you sound YOUNG!
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To ask that this movie be set in Japan? And star Japanese actors? Am I the only one who creamed his pants when Tarantino had the Germans speak Germans and the French speak French in Basterds? I don't know, I'm just intrigued by the thought of an American film stepping out of an American's comfort zone. Give it a shot, Hollywood!
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Mar 30, 2010 2:20:03 AM CDT
People were pissed they actually made Godzilla look COOL!
by revenge_of_fett
How dare those bastards! Don't they know Godzilla must look like a fat-assed Homer Simpson with a ridiculous dragging tail!?!?Toho thought they would storm the stage with Godzilla: Final Wars done the old retard-o way and everyone would support it. Nope, horrific bomb. So I don't know what the fuck Godzilla fans want. I guess they want the stupid, laughable Godzilla that 90% of people think is too dumb to spend money on.Keep in mind that I certainly had my problems with Emmerich's version (tires skidding on tongue = FAIL!), but it wasn't nearly as bad as people say and the redesign was the best part. Godzilla was fast and interesting to look at, not a fuckin' theme park mascot costume that would jump up and down and wave it's arms around when it got excited. Really un-fuckin'-believable that some hardcore nerds actually prefer that.
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Explains the majority of the movies made there.
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A dude in a suit could be more impressive...especially if they do great stuntwork and explosions. CG is too easy. It would be stupid.
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I never get enough of that "fun" excuse bullshit. This people who use the "fun" excuse to justify liking shit movies, they talk like they are junkies. Yeah, the drug was terrible and caused cardiac arrest, but it was injectable so it's good. Fuck that "fun" bullshit excuse. That's for illiterate rednecks, not for real movie geeks.
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Cloverfield has pretty much killed this concept. There is nothing more to do. It is dead. And to be honest, it was never any good to begin with.
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It's not that i don't like the movie, i actually did. I'm not crazy about it, but i found it a well made, if too gimmicky, movie. but itwas the movie that finally made me realise what a fuck-ass that JJ Abrams is. In the DVD extras, he tells how, when he was in Japan and saw how big Godzilla was there, it inspired him to wanted to create "The American Monster" (trademark impending). Because, said the penis-shaped nose visionary, there is no big great american monster to compete and compare with godzilla. Aparently, that retarded fuck never heard of KING KONG. Because, like, who created King Kong? The mongolians? The persians? GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!
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Stop deluding yourselves.
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It could be good enough to be entertaining... which Emmerich's GODZILLA wasn't.The thing that amazes me the most about the Japanese Godzilla movies, specially the older ones, is how seriously they take it all. Sur,e it's a guy in a suit trashing model cities and fighting other guy in a monster suit, but the acting in those movie,s and the plot, take themselves very seriously. Contrary to what many americans think, they are not made deliberatly cheesy. The so-called "chessiness" so to speak, is more a typical american and western cultural reaction to something japanese, aka, exotic to out point of view. And as an excuse for our reaction to soemthing we barely compreend, we call it chessy. But it's not. The japanese, speically those older Godzilla movies, they took them seriously.
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Neither a good guy to protect us form other monsters, nor an evil guy who kills because it's fun. Godzilla, as many have comented above, should be presented as a force of nature, like an Earthquake or an hurricane, which causes destruction not on intent but in impulse. I say, even having Godzilla wreck vengence on humans because of what human do to mother nature is giving it too much cause. i think Godzilla should be even more neutral then that. Godzilla should wreck dammage not because it's pissed, but because stuff made by the humans, like cities and highways and dams, just stand on it's way.Say, imagine that Gozdilla is this long lived creature, who can live up to 10,000 years, and every 2000 years it makes a migration. This year it's migration time. Last time it made this migration, 2000 years ago, all there existed on the american continent was indian tribes. When it crossed the land back then, it gave rise to some ancient indian legend that today is taken merely as myth. But today, in it's path there is a whole industrialized country. But Godzilla, like all migratory beasts, it will not change path just because there's new stuff in it's way. So, it wrecks dammage to all the stuff it encounters, an acts very agressively when it perceives a threat. trashing the whole place to kingdom come in the process.I view this as an avoidance to try to portait Godzilla as both a villain, nor as a eco-warrior punishing humans for their "crime" of wanting to live in an industrialized society, or whatever bullshit the enviromentalists believe. Godzilla shouldn't be neither villain or an eco-warrior punishing so-called hubris. it should be like nature, neutral, unintentional, just a force that occasional meets human populus, like huricanes, vulcans and earthquakes. Gidzilla should be like nature: exotic from our point of view, half understood/half mysterious, half-predictable/half-unpredictable and chaotic, unpersonable, and not antropomorphized or given any human-like characteriztics. Godzilla should should represent nature at it's most neutral and unpersonal. Godzilla should be exotic and weird and strange... like monsters are.
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Godzilla is simply the greatest living non human film character of all time. Emmerich made the worst film of all time with his horrendous take on godzilla. Where was Gigan, Mothra, King Ghidorah, Rodan, Ebirah, Hedorah, Destroyah, Space Godzilla, Biolante or Anguirus? Nowhere. If they consider remaking Lone Wolf and Cub someone ought to die a slow death. Greatest film series of all time. Japan is and has always been the greatest film industry on earth.
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I really have no patience for people who diss the Godzilla remake.
It's a fine film. It delivered the goods.
The Japanese films were originally, unintentionally bad, then, when they realized that they couldn't compete with Hollywood, they saw that camp was the way to go. Fanboys buy into the campery, but the remake was a return the the character's origins, a serious take.
The Tatopoulos design was great, technically it was all sound.
I don't know if a new movie is needed, but I'm not complaining. -
Mechagodzilla
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Agree with your last post about Godzilla being a force of nature. I love the old Japanese Godzilla movies, and the Hollywood one....ehhhh I do like some things about it, but overall it was not that good. But the whole "is he a bad guy/is he protecting us" thing was fine back in the day, but now I think he should be just like you say, a force of nature, with no intent other than to get from here to there, and of course humans view him as a threat and rightfully so, but we view anything we don't understand as a threat, so our natural reaction is to destroy it. I just hope they do Godzilla justice this time. Oh and make him look like classic Godzilla. The redesign for the Hollywood film was ok and all, I just did not see Godzilla when I looked at it.
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Not for any other reason other than it will be in his way....still gotta have some classic Godzilla monster vs. monster stuff in there.
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Hell, you could even get Russ Tamblyn to return.
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Can we please at least TRY to make this one interesting?
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His rampage begins in New York and finishes in Los Angeles.
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Mar 30, 2010 9:46:30 AM CDT
MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN
by googam_son_of_goom
MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT!
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I'd say Godzilla starts in LA and ends in New york. Godzilla always strikes me as a creature from The Pacific, not the Atlantic.
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... changes it's name to Ali Al-Godzilla, and let it lose in America! "DIE INFIDELS", roars Ali Al-Godzilla.
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Not the army, not nuclear bombs can stop Godzilla. Finally, the hero will have to use phenomenology to stop Godzilla, by convincing it that it doesn't exist.
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Who'll claim your soul?
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Think along the lines of The Thing. Godzilla was all frozen from prehistoric times, and now that the world is heating up because of man, it gets released. I would love to see it terrorize central America. Let the mofo swim through the great lakes to get the supreme meating packing city that is Chicago. Let that mofo crawl out of Lake Michigan and take down the tallest building in America...Bruce Willis and his Sears Tower won't stand a chance. A John McClaine type character is what we need against Godzilla. Matthew Broderick was too bland. If it wasn't for Jean Reno and Hank Azaria, that last installment would have been a true tragedy. But back to my point: What is scarier than being eaten from the inside out. Go for Chicago! Let the monster attack the heart of the country first, and then have each coast wondering which direction the monster is heading next. talk about coastal tension!
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Is Godzilla a hero in this movie, or a villain. Emmerich didn't even know after he finished his movie.
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Actually, it makes mroe sense that Godzilla was a creature from an ice age that had been sleeping when the clima got warmer. You see, in such cold conditions as an ice age, being big helps, because you cna sonserve internal heat better. It's something to do with the ration of mass to surface area, and the bigger you ar,e the lesser it is, and thus the less body heat you lose. It's why polar bears are bigger then most of it's warmer weather counterparts.Hibernation throughout warmer weather seasons is not unheard of, it's called "Estivation". While everybody claims there's global warming going on, many also say this is he first stages for the return of colder temperatures as existed during the Ice Age. Godzilla could had waken up from it's deep sea slumber because it sensed the return of a global temperature more akin to her.
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A sort of self-provoqued hybernation a creature puts itself into when enviromental conditions are adverse and remaind so indefinatly until favourable conditions arise.
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Just like many, I always saw Godzilla as a force of nature personified as a monster—NOT a dinosaur! NOT a giant mutated lizard! A MONSTER! The original black and white GODZILLA and GODZILLA RETURNS (for the U.S. GODZILLA 1985) were just awesome. They were dark and scary and showed the sheer terror of Godzilla. They SHOULD be staples of must-see movies for the young generation to see. But nothing beats a good ol’ fashion monster vs monster smackdown. I hope they add a familiar monster (I would prefer Gigan, Rodan or Hedorah, or even the giant mantas and spider which I forgot their names. I would save King Ghidorah for a later movie IF it gets to that point) or make something new. But this is Hollywood we are talking about. As much as I am happy that Big G is coming back to the big screens, I am also dreading it.
“American Godzilla.” That is all it takes to bring up the red flags. No one will ever forget what happened when Hollywood made an “American Godzilla.” Just those two words alone already give me a very bad feeling, just like when you saw GINO for the first time. Godzilla has been around for over 50years. Hell, it’s amazing nowadays if something last just a few years, but Big G has done it for over 50! And all done with simple FX and “cheesy” goodness. GINO took NOTHING from the history of Godzilla and pretty much used the name only with everything else made new. And I’m afraid that Hollywood didn’t learn shit from the first disaster.
I’m crossing my fingers (and toes) and praying to Jeebus that we get a great Godzilla movie, something along the lines of at least in GODZILLA and GODZILLA RETURNS. But most likely we will get some CG fill craptacular with stupid humans taking up most of the movie. PLEASE BE A MAN IN A SUIT!!!
P.S. KING KONG vs GODZILLA is one of my top 3 favorite G-movies! And Godzilla would lay the smackdown on Kong EVERY time. -
Pray to GODzilla.
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... it should fight another monster. Maybe the first movie should be just about the big girl. Then, came the sequel, when a new monster shows up, humans will make an unholy alliance with Godzilla as a sort of going for the "lesser evil" type of deal, or at least an "evil" they already know. But there would still be intrigue, misunderstandings and backstabbings going on bewtwene the two uneasy allies. And in the end, after the new monster gets defeated, humans and Godzilla would became enemies again.
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1998 GODZILLA is the best-looking GODZILLA. Two-hundred 7-foot baby Godzillas is a fantastic addition. The movie was no dumber than any of the Japanese Zillas, and it looked WAY better. Cool-looking goddam monsters is what this stuff is all about. The US version was free of the sodden Japanese seriousness and berserk alien "spirituality". The Japanese films are so dreary and heavy and awful that they slam to a halt when the monsters aren't on screen.
The best Japanese GODZILLA presentations are those two DVDs that have just monster action sequences set to new music. Those are great, with no heavy slow spots. I forget what they're called. -
Many of the suggestions people have for what it should be aren't aware it's already been done. For example, VadaKinX - there's one of the '00s GODZILA movies which starts with documentary footage of the '54 one, then fast forwards to an ultra-modern Tokyo which has developed technologies to deal with the big lizard's rampages. Hilarious line at a military briefing where one officer is asking another if he's heard the rumour of Godzilla attacking New York and the other replies he has, but he doesn't believe it. In fact, the oversized iguana from the Emmerich film winds up attacking Sidney Australia in the last Godzilla film (FINAL WARS). The real Godzilla takes all of about ten seconds to dispose of it and a witness to the fight comments "I always knew that overgrown fish-eater wasn't good for anything.".
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The Japanese were so horrified at that crappy film that they had to get the real Godzilla out of retirement so it wouldn't be the last Godzilla film. GODZILLA 2000 was so [deservedly] popular that it spawned a series of equally fun sequels.
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... in "One Crazy Summer" (late '80's)... that, at the time, was one of the funniest/great scenes I had witnessed in film, I laughed so effin hard at that scene, repeatedly for years... i was lucky enough to see it recently on Starz or Encore, and still I laughed at it pretty hard.... f you haven't seen this movie, you ALL should seek it out and watch.... VERY funny movie, and pre- Demi Moore boob job, she was hot even then.
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That would be the monster movie to end all monster movies.
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and not just a pregnant dinosaur from Jurassic Park.
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I would like to see King Ghidorah and Mothra and Rodan in the movie too
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The most annoying thing about Godzilla '98 was not its monster action (which at least had its moments), but it's utterly inane human "drama" centered around the Matthew Broderick character's marital problems. This element of the film seemed to drag on for hours. Add to that the inexplicable constant rain (is this New York or Seattle, for Christ's sake?), which really dampened (sorry) the mood. And that goofy subplot involving two characters patterned after movie critics Ebert and Siskel didn't help a bit. And, of course, it's eye-rolling groaner of an ending (i.e. the reveal of the eggs hatching, which might as well have had titles over it reading: coming soon: Godzilla II!) pretty much clinched it for anybody who may have not yet decided the film was a stinker.
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This movie needs it:
http://tinyurl.com/allrx3
He's like the missing link between Japan and America. I bet he's a big Godzilla fan too. -
...would be for some Americans to travel to Japan, knowing him only as a movie character, just to find out that he's a real, everyday part of their life over there that the Japanese have come to take for granted. I always preferred when Godzilla was treated as a hero.Btw, if you haven't done so yet, you might want to checkout the AICN Power Mod (Firefox Greasemonkey Script) I wrote:http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/72709Features:* Highlight your posts and any post where your user name is referenced. You'll feel as important as Harry and Herc. Don't miss out on those exciting new flame wars about to happen!* Automatically inserts newlines into your comments. No more manually adding the or tag. Yay, the return key finally works!* Fixes the subject cut-off bug. Everything you can fit in the subject field will be posted as you'll be properly limited to the 64 character maximum.* Set up a personal ban list, collapsing the posts of people you've had enough of. Try not to ban people over differences of opinion, that's a total pussy move.* Collapses posts with keywords in it, like 'spoiler' or the names of shows you aren't caught up on. No more accidentally finding out that Hurley dies next week on Lost. ;)* Expands the size of the comment area (configurable). Now you can see more than three words of your comment at a time.* Deletes posts by retarded "first" posters (and second and third -- configurable). I know, I know, it's about fucking time. You're most welcome.* Provides a status bar at the top of the screen showing the total post count, your post count, and the collapsed post count.
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Here's the first part. So funny
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"So deservedly fun that it spawned several sequels" eh? yeah, it cost $13M to make and grossed all of $12M at the theater (WORLD-FUCKING-WIDE)! You wanna know why? CUZ IT WAS FUCKIN' RETARDED!Contrast that with the Emmerich version which grossed $379M!
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"Contrast that with the Emmerich version which grossed $379M!" And your point is? Remember, we're talking about a society here that thinks Seinfeld and Adam Sandler are actually funny. I wouldn't use them as yardsticks for cinematic success. As for the box office results, have a look at Toho's site: $8 million to make, $15 million take. 100% profit. I tend to believe those figures over yours if only because they DID make sequels, which doesn't tend to be the case when they lose money on the first.
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For you, it's all about the gross, isn't it? The gross is what you use to measure a movie's quality, isn't it?
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Who was the first fucking idiot who came up with this bullshit?
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How many people wanted to see it. Apparently NOBODY wanted to see Godzilla 2000!And by the way, I didn't make that number up, it's from Box Office Mojo, you know, the site EVERYBODY trusts for accuracy? But you go ahead and trust TOYOHO because they'd never lie to appease their sharholders. *rolleyes* http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=godzilla2000.htm
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And that was the biggest POS ever. They should make Bayformers Vs. Emmerich's Godzilla to appease FETT.
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What's your point?
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Good to hear, King Kong vs. Godzilla is probably my 2nd favorite movie of 1962 behind Dr. No. Also it is better than Manchurian Candidate and whatever other top movies were of the day! !!!!!!!!
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.... XD XD
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When I was like 6! I also watched Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood and Puff n' Stuff! Are those classics that shouldn't be touched too?
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naturally
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I'm no G2000 apologist. Just because one may have had a bigger budget does not mean it was a better film. They both sucked.
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..a VERY big part of G-2000 doing horrible at the box office was in direct result from the UTTER SHIT that was the '97 Godzilla (Emmerich's)... besides the fact that it wasn't good, it NEVER had a chance....
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except Pearl Harbor, Armageddon and 2012.
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It would make no sense to make him cgi.
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... at the fucking abomination that was the '97 Godzilla, they took it upon themselves, when they got the Spiderman movies, to do to an American icon, what Emmerich did to theirs.!!! Bank that shit, that is a big reason why ALL the Spiderman movies sucked!!!!
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That was a good one! Yes a giant CGI Puff n Stuff terrorizing New York!
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I have a sexuale fascination with this movie, if it were real id finger all of its orifices.
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from the '97 Godzilla.... EVERY FUCKIN ONE OF YOU knows, deep in the cochles of your hearts, that she was the biggest no talent fuckin twat to ever be filmed..... the amount of cock she must have sucked to get that role, i can't even imagine...... and yes, pretty well everything about that Godzilla sucked.....
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I'm saying the fight in the forest was better than anything in Godzilla 2000.You know it's fucking true.
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Just sayin'.
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Thyw fight in the forest in BAYSHIT 2 is shit. If it wans't for the ILM guys to save Bay's ass, that shit wouldn't even be mistaken for a scene to be put into a movie.
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you have the ILM guys to thank for. Not that Bay asshole.
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Because possibly they could have been duped or soemthing? But TF2 had the biggest home video sales of 2009 of any title in 1 week. 1.5M of those were Blu-ray. It would seem that a LOT OF FUCKING PEOPLE liked that movie. Not only that, but they couldn't get it home fast enough.But you just keep describing the artistic mastery of Homer-Simpson-looking-Godzilla swatting things hanging on strings on a playset. I've seen PORN with better production values than that shit!
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And I do say it. Yup...
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I said TF2 was a better movie than G200....because it IS. It's YOU GUYS that automatically hate on shit because of who's listed in the fucking credits, not me.
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Get this into your skull: it don't fucking matter. 10 years from now, nobody is talking in awe of BAYSHIT 2. It will be a forgotten movie. Meanwhile, MOON will be talked about in reverence and awe, and as an unmissable new SF classic. And that movie's box office was pathetic. But it says fuck all about it's quality. And so does BAYSHIT 2' popularity among the retards and morons.
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Mar 30, 2010 3:54:52 PM CDT
I'm not here to defend those dumb-assed Transformers movies
by revenge_of_fett
I'm just saying they are more entertaining than dopey-assed theme park costumed Godzilla films, as pretty much everybody would agree.
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because that's what it is.
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DAMN! Anything to keep from trying to defend the utter retardation of Godzilla 2000 eh?
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Mar 30, 2010 3:57:19 PM CDT
REVENGE_of_FETT, you aren't a movie geek, you are an accountant
by asimovlives
What are you doing here? BAYFORMERS 2 is entertaining? In what paralel universe would that happen?
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Which is worse, Transformers 2 or....STAR TREK?*Everyone sits forward in their seats*
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WTF?? It's supposed to be about solitude and the acceptance of one's fate. Not about giant creatures tearing shit up. Fett's point is that no one would see a guy in a ridiculous rubber suit knocking shit out. Well... except the crazy people.
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I love those Savage Steve Holland/Cusack movies, OCS is my favorite comedy from when I was a kid. The Cute and Fuzzy Bunnies, Foam: The Killer Dolphin with Rabies, collecting shells on the beach with Ack Ack, all the lobster abuse, "Save HER!" etc. Everyone from Taylor Negron to Joe Flaherty was hilarious, and Demi was never hotter (not to mention the blonde that played Cookie.) But I think that Godzilla scene is Bobcat's funniest contribution to society so far. Also, this just occurred to me, but I don't think anyone can dispute that Bobcat Goldthwaite and Charlie Day should play father and son in a movie at some point. -
Mar 30, 2010 4:00:15 PM CDT
I don't need to watch Godzilla 2000 to know it's better then BAY
by asimovlives
There's only 3 movies that are worst then Bayformers 2, and those are Armageddon, Pearl Harbor and 2012. And that is academic.
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Which is faint praise for Fraud Trek.
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You obviously fucking DESPISE everythign they've ever made....and they've made a lot of films. Yet there you are on opening day scowling and loudly munching your popcorn..."Fucking Bay! This movie sucks so much ass! GOD I can't wait for Transformers 3 because I'm going to hate that one even more!"
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When he said of the Emmerich movie: "How can you have a Godzilla movie and not have it be scary?"
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...but done well (if that's possible!)
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Look...America and Japan... obviously have...different views on monsters, and...what rocks/sucks.
But that's OK. Doesn't mean that either version sucks total ass though. Im partial to the original Godzillas, cuz those, i saw first. As a kid.
An American version CAN be done. That Japanese CGI Godzilla, posted above looked great. I still say man in suit though. (And that's not me being a luddite, i love CGI.) -
Mar 30, 2010 5:17:29 PM CDT
You know what this needs? Giant Transforming Robots...with Guns
by mrmysteryguest
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the script permanently stop showing the panel with the aicn statistic,when i hover the mouse on the upper part of the page? its very annoying.
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we are thinking the same thing,thats what i tried to say in my post.nice.
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Mar 30, 2010 5:48:30 PM CDT
MUST ECHO ORIGINAL DESIGN MUST BREATH NUCLEAR HELL
by the green gargantua
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MORBIDLY OBESE LADY IN SUIT MORBIDLY OBESE LADY IN SUIT MORBIDLY OBESE LADY IN SUIT MORBIDLY OBESE LADY IN SUIT MORBIDLY OBESE LADY IN SUIT MORBIDLY OBESE LADY IN SUIT MORBIDLY OBESE LADY IN SUIT MORBIDLY OBESE LADY IN SUIT.........sorr
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with Godzilla trying to walk NY streets without stepping on the humans walking the roads.
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like someone above pointed out. Enhanced with animatronics+CGI, natch, it could work.
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Glad you like it. That panel is more about providing access to the settings than anything else. I'm not a huge fan of hidden panels normally, and I may come up with something less intrusive in future versions (or at least provide and option to disable it), but for now, you should be able to edit the script and remove (or comment out) the last line like this://addStatusBarRolloverEvent();If you do that, you can still change your settings by entering "about:config" in your location bar and filtering on AICN.
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Proof positive that you can do a decent CGI creature that still has the look and feel of the classic Godzilla. http://tinyurl.com/y9og678 Also here is a VERY good sculpt of the Godzilla we "could" have got if Jan DeBont and Whatever his name is Delgado woulda been able to do their thing http://tinyurl.com/ycr4wrx Combine the 2 concepts, tweak it out a little and you have a perfect representation of how Godzilla SHOULD be. Here's what we "could" have gotten if they let Stan Winston have HIS way with the creature. http://tinyurl.com/yfx63ex
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Great links. Love that last shot.
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I actually prefer the first one myself, but....I would "GLADLY" take either in a new Godzilla movie...because they actually LOOK like Godzilla.
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http://tinyurl.com/ycr4wrx SEE IT AND WEEP!
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http://tinyurl.com/yfgukc9 one and another: http://tinyurl.com/yhfbw7k
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Matt Frank's mixture of old and new: http://tinyurl.com/yhnttme
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They need to stick closer to the original. That second one looks close enough to the original, that it could satisfy fans of that version. Yet "scary" enough for the American market. First one is also good. A more "real" take though. @Ebixby: Not too sure about the Godzilla drawing there, dude. Looks kinda amateurish. Also what's up with your name? Sounds kinda similar to mine, you stalking me?
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just don't really post much... Been posting since 97 when I found this site...
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I meant the drawing -style-. Of this image:
http://tinyurl.com/yfgukc9
This Matt Frank guy had some interesting stuff though.
Holy shit, i think i just may have found another AICN-talkback scoop... -
Ah, all's good then. Thought you was that Asimov character for a min.
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But I also dig the animated quality of the other guy's stuff too- I don't mind that it's not too polished.
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Anyone care to tell me what the hell this is? (And if it's something i have missed, im blushing in advance. Cuz i reckon...
http://tinyurl.com/y9bx3rk
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I had never seen his stuff, so thanks for the links, man.
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Known about Matt's stuff for awhile, would be great if they made an anime series using some of his designs. As far as that first Delgado model kit you posted, I posted a link to it yesterday and again today. If you look at the post 4 above yours you'll see that as well as a couple other concepts.
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the url was wrong: http://tinyurl.com/y8kxe6m
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wansn't a delgado -it was a spikey demon version- you posted that as well? cool man.
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What's up with that Bowser concept then? It says trademarked 2009 by Nintendo. (It's the man in suit thing that caught my eye)
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this is the first one you posted today right?? http://tinyurl.com/ycr4wrx it is a kit based on the Godzilla that was going to be used in the 94 Jan DeBont Godzilla designed by Ricardo Delgado.
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http://tinyurl.com/ygj7g93 - sorry guys I meant to post this, I must have copied the wrong url....going back and forth from tinyurl is annoying
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http://tinyurl.com/ylz2zud
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I think Frank submits his concepts to studios- but most of the time he's doing commissions or promotional work- I'm not sure what that Mario art is for.
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Fuckin hate that movie!!
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The movie Emmerich made wasn't any worser than some of the Japanese Godzilla movies. But it was a bad movie all right.
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Glad to know that, my greek friend.
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Yes, in byzzaro world, where retardness rules.
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Coming up with this non-arguments as box office results and ill-define defenitions of "fun" to justify love and defending of such dumb stupid crappy bullshit movies like Emmerich's Godzilla. small wonder there's so much despise about the geeks today. Small wonder when the backlash came, it will be with the force of the french revolution. Jesus Christ, this so called geeks, what the fuck, man. We the geeks should be the last line of defense against the studio bullshit. We should be their watchmen. Not their prime endorsers. Really, what don't you fucking understand? This business about being a movie geek is more then just going gay for the dumbest studio movies and shove popcorn in our mouths like a starved horse, if you know what i mean. That kind of attitude is not of a movie geek, but of a mindless drone studio slave-ass.
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Mar 31, 2010 4:44:27 AM CDT
The thing that most upsets me about Emmerich's GODZILLA...
by asimovlives
... is the cynicism. The whole movie shows the cynical attitude the filmmakers had about it, specially from the hack duo of Emmerich and Devlin. You can tell this two hacks made that movie as their next chance at another Hollywood big lunch. There's no love for the movie. Their lack of real interest and love for Godzilla shows from start to finish. Godzilla for them was just anothe real ticket for their hunger for power. It's such a calculated movie. This is not filmmakers who are not making the stuff they love, but what will make them climb one step higher in the ladder. Pure cynicism. compare and contrast that Goduilla piec eof shit with more honest blockbusters like Batman Begins, The Dark knight and Iron Man, movies in which it's clear and obvious the filmmakers who made them poured their love in making them. Entertaiment with love. Emmerich and Devlin's Godzilla is entertainment with cynicism. And people claiming to be geeks like and defend that shit? What the frack?
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We get plenty high rises for Godzilla to topple, and a big naval base for him to fight. And enough Japanese tourists for him to terrorize.
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Needs a bit of work on the face but I love the badassness of it.
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Because Godzilla only terrorises Japaneses, right? On other nationalities, Godzilla is a good ol' chap.
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http://tinyurl.com/ya8k5ah
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sound like what they said they would do with predator vs aliens.....
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Your right, that IS badass. IF they go with a man-in suit approach, how about Steve Wang doing a version? You heard of him, right? Hell, i nominate him as the director of this...
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But only if he can recapture his 90s style of filmmaking. We know he's a huge Godzilla fan, but we need a Mars Attacks! style film, not another Alice in Wonderland.
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(sorry Burton fans) But we need this:
A director that can provide a Godzilla who looks enough like the original. But scary. Because Americans like things to look real.
Can handle Action AND destruction.
Also, some experience in handling Martial Arts would be nice, since that helps spice up the ground action. Also original godzilla movies have all sorts of zany sub-plots.
I nominate This Steve Vang guy. I knew he helped Stan Winston design the Predator. He also did the Guyver.(Which i have not seen)
I found his MySpace page and checked out his Directors Reel. He apparently directs movies with his brother now. And he seems almost overqualifed for this. So, why not? Check out his directors reel:
http://tinyurl.com/ybkybz9
Hollywood: Give this man the gig and a budget.
1. Let him Create an awesome Godzilla.
2. Add the Cage-FactorTM.
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I know we started on the wrong foot, but i have to agree with you about Tim Burton. I'm totally fed up with him and his movies. And i used to be a fan of his work. But his career with and after PLANET OF THE APES killed all my enthusiasm. Really, screw Burton.
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...man in suit, all the naysayers out there must not have seen Ironman, or the Aliens or Predators movies... Ironman used "man in suit" and used CGI and ALL the other aspects of effects to "ENHANCE" the man in suit. That is just one of the reasons why Ironman rocked.... it's why the Predators look so great, as well as aliens.... use it ALL TOGETHER, and that is where we are gonna come up with the best scenario.... and keep it Toho Godzilla, not that Emmerich shit.
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If he does a Doc Strange movie. THAT would be a perfect fit. With Depp as Strange and Alan Rickman as Dormammu. And AsimovLives, see? We can all get along. No, need to call people names. We ALL have passion.
We just need to channel that passion/rage properly.(Then we can all fucking get along.)
NOW, back to Godzilla:
I still say this Wang guy
is the best guy for the job, question is: "how do we let Hokywood know?"
Maybe Nic Cage could produce it.
He's probably already an AICN talkbacker, like someone suggested. -
I'm Nicholas Cage. What's, you didn't recognized the passionate madness?
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Mar 31, 2010 1:45:40 PM CDT
No, but seriously, i can't visualise a director for the new GODZ
by asimovlives
As in, a really good director that would actually like and have a passion for the move, instead of another fucking hack like Emmerich. Neill Blomkamp, perhaps?
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..I think that's what we need anymore, some people that haven't been praised and sent before the altar of they can do no wrong.!!! I mean, how many people TRULY thought Favreau was gonna do Ironman well, ? how many people, when they said they were doing Ironman thought, " Ironman, why do Ironman, no-one even knows or cares for Ironman"?? i know i heard that a lot.
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Conjures up images of Anthony Quinn ranting. That's one of the reasons why i LIKE your passionate madness. Just tone down the degrading of people.
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Have a look (NSFW): http://alturl.com/rq9c Please bear in mind the ambiance of the original GOJIRA when considering Tsukamoto. He seems to be a perfect match.
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Against Favreau succeding. Didn't bitch about it beforehand though. Although, when Downey and Bridges came on board i was pretty relieved.
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...is not a bad choice either. However, he seems to have another project in the pipeline at the moment. I suppose it depends upon Legendary Pictures/Warner Bros./Toho's commitment to a 2012 release date.
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While i agree that Tsukamoto is good. Especially with nightmarish imagery...The general audience, especially in America, would probably go: "WTF?" It's like getting David Lynch.
You dug my Steve Wang suggestion though? You think he could pull it off? Truth be told, i haven't seen any of his flicks.
Of course, seeing Steve's resume, i have certainly seen plenty of his work. -
Is busy, he has been stunt-casted by me to direct a Black Panther epic.
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I certainly think Steve Wang could do a serviceable job. I have fond memories of GUYVER 2: DARK HERO. I suppose it would boil down to two factors: budget and script. Considering that Wang made GUYVER 2 for less than a million, I'm sure a Godzilla film with ten times the budget would not be much of a problem. However, I'd prefer someone else work on the screenplay; someone with a true understanding of what makes Godzilla such a powerful cinematic presence.
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ULTIMATE, American Godzilla movie here. Steve Wang seems to have the visual chops down for it.
Plus, obviously his fx-works speaks volumes. He would "get" the Monster. I'd say it would be all about the script and budget too.
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A really good Japanese writer living in America. Sorry, sounds simplisic, but it's the best suggestion i got.
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...but I'm sure Haruki Murakami could write an amazing Godzilla film. He's alluded to daikaiju in some of his short stories and novels. However, considering he has been garnered by many a literary magazine "the greatest living Japanese writer", he may be a hard buy.
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...that Murakami was 'in-residence' at Princeton in the nineties, and has translated Fitzgerald and Salinger into Japanese. I imagine he has a good grasp of the English language.
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I think he would be perfect.
Also, let's backtrack to the article:
"Our plans, is to produce the GODZILLA that we, as fans, would want to see. We intend to do justice to those essential elements that have allowed the character to remain as pop-culturally relevant for as long as it has."
His writing, combined with the visuals of Steve Vang+Nic Cage. A good production from Legendary Pictures, preferably them consulting with Toho Co...
Could be the perfect american Godzilla movie. -
...got in there, but I like it.
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http://tinyurl.com/allrx3
Also, i may not have much time. I dropped an exposure bomb in the Troll 2 talkback. If im banned, good talking to you. -
Thanks, man. Good Talking and Good Luck.
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He's not fast. He's not pretty. He's not a mutated iguana. He's a mutated T-rex turned nuke-breathing dragon. He's a grizzly and everything else is Bambi.
Tweak him if you want but keep the iconic face. I personally like the look of the Godzilla movie where he was the spiritual anger of the dead sailors personified as a physical force and he actually PUKED a nuke next to an elementary school...good times...good times. -
because tearing apart the city gets old after about 5 minutes.
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looks like i avoided the banhammer. This time at least. Lesson for today:
Don't drink and post. You get paranoid...Anyway, sure hope someone involved with this production is combing the internetz. Preferably these talkbacks. We're literally doing their job for them.
Also, those Nic Cage Ads...He's pretty misunderstood. Much like Godzilla. I would say he's the Perfect fit, for an American lead. -
Apr 02, 2010 2:46:20 AM CDT
Please, Please, Please someone find Roland Emmerich and kill him
by allthosepowers
...that you murder his ancestors. I will pay you a lot of money if you did this for me
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